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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog general. Let's talk about Sonic games, old and new, and the entire franchise including animation and comics. Share art, music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, etc.

/sthg/ #379 - Christmas Edition

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/p1bzghuF

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>News/Developments<
The Christmas event in Sonic Runners has begun
http://www.tssznews.com/2015/12/18/sonic-runners-updates-with-christmas-campaign/

Tomy Reveals New Sonic Boom & 25th Anniversary Sonic Toylines for 2016
http://www.sonicstadium.org/2015/12/tomy-reveals-new-2016-sonic-boom-toys/
http://www.sonicstadium.org/2015/12/tomy-reveals-25th-anniversary-toyline-for-july-2016/

Tails and Knuckles Mii Outfits Coming to Smash Bros
http://www.sonicstadium.org/2015/12/tails-and-knuckles-mii-outfits-coming-to-smash-bros/

Archie Sonic Solicitations for March 2016
http://comicsalliance.com/archie-action-sonic-the-hedgehog-releases-for-march-2016-solicitations/

Sonic Boom DVD Vol 1 Hits the U.K. in February
http://www.sonicstadium.org/2015/12/sonic-boom-dvd-vol-1-hits-the-u-k-in-february/

Fan Event to take place at Joypolis, Tokyo on December 27th
http://www.sonicstadium.org/2015/12/japanese-sonic-fan-event-to-take-place-at-joypolis-tokyo/

>Recent Releases<
Sonic Lost World has released on Steam!

3D Sonic the Hedgehog 2 has released for the Nintendo 3DS! You can buy it on the Nintendo 3DS eShop.

Sonic Dash 2: Sonic Boom has released for iOS and Android devices! You can download it for free from iTunes or the Google Play store.

Sonic Boom's first season has ended! You can watch all of the first season's episodes in English here:
http://www.watchcartoononline.com/anime/sonic-boom

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>>126752687
>/sthg/ #379 - Christmas Edition
and that's my cue to go to sleep
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>/sthg/ #379 - Christmas Edition
Kill yourself, OP.
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>Christmas Edition
>Not New Years
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Thank you for making another dead general.
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>>126752687
YOU HAD ONE JOB
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>>126752687
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>>126753243
Did you honestly not see his twitter post? Go fuck yourself dumbass
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>>126753032
What is this artist's name so I can hate him harder? I can't quite see it in the image.
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Perfect.
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>christmas edition again
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>>126753398
Artstyle looks like the guy who has the gayorangefox tumblard. Know he has alts.

Too bad it's dead now
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>>126753509
>Yfw Madonna is the 12th Egg Boss and Snively is just a red herring
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>people complain that there aren't any sympathetic villains anymore
>use geoffrey as example
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>>126753608
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No more fighting. Post cute.
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>>126753391
No. No one posted any link or photo. So no. Kill yourself
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>>126753601
Whatever. I swear to god his Tails is the faggiest shit.
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>>126753608
How is Snively even a red herring? NOTHING has actually indicated it's him and people are already complaining about it like it's a given.
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>>126753705
I usually hear the opposite to be honest.
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>>126753768
Senpai wished /sthg/ happy birthday on his twitter for it's 100th. And one time later. Some dumbass anon pested him and he stopped.
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>>126753768
>No one posted any link or photo.

Yeah, they had. And if they're smart they realized what a problem that was. It's called plausible deniability, you child.
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>>126754023
Stop giving the shitposter what he wants.
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>>126753746
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>>126753950
Yeah, it's just especially dumb. It's weird how many people seem to be vaguely aware of the comic and discuss it a lot but then it turns out they don't actually read it.
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>>126753968
>>126754023
Sure. Keep believing everyone you meet without proof. You won't get far in the world trusting everyone you meet. Why am I even arguing, a Dead General is Dead General with so many people who believe it can stay alive.
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>>126753509
Nice

>>126753660
Why wouldn't he just run so he would get warm?

>>126753903
I said it last thread and I'll say it again
I think this is fucking cute

>>126753815
>I swear to god his Tails is the faggiest shit.
that's the whole point
he has his da still
UnbreakableBond
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>>126754432
It's even weirder because the most recent issue wrapped up 2 arcs, both with sympathetic villains
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>>126753815
What's wrong with his Tails?
I like it. It looks cute as shit.
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>>126754546
>that's the whole point
Then I firmly ask that you post any other artist when Tailsposting.
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>>126753705
I pity her

>>126754181
looks bit weird but I still like it
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fast
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>>126754546
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>>126754827
Little slow there. Aren't you?
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>>126754634
I am

>>126754801
tight
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>>126754908
w-what? ;_;
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>>126755046
>I am.
Please continue doing so indefinitely and thank you.
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>>126754571
Just to add to my point, the reboot actually has many more sympathetic villains than the pre reboot did, so the complaint of "no sympathetic villains" is even more ludicrous
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>>126755179
Just stating the fact in this dead general
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>>126755412
Honestly, I feel like that's a big problem. There's nobody to hate anymore. Even Eggman has a charm to him in his bluntness.
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Pixiv's gif protection scheme is annoying me big time.
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>>126755858
>There's nobody to hate anymore.
>Not hating that hedgehog
>2016 minus 3 days
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>>126755858
So you want penders back?
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Let's talk lore and continuity.

Did they meet?
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>>126755743
A story based on pic related would be nice.
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>>126756396
Maybe at least once, but Eggman was likely really young. I don't know when Maria moved to the ARK, but I doubt Eggman's family ever visited.
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>>126755858
I hate Tundra for being an abusive hypocritical piece of shit, but I think that's the point. Even then I like him from a writing and character standpoint
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>>126756296
I wish the pendering never happened actually. More darkness and hate in that one.
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>>126756630
Would you want it to be a drama, suspense or adventure? Or would you want it to be absolutely crazy and batshit insane. I can do either.

The mania one sounds kind of fun since all i'd need to do is not take my meds for one day and then type my mind out about the subject..
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>>126757187
I was thinking drama/suspense, but you can interpret it however you like. Would be hilarious to see the twenty-something year old Vanilla fawning over a rotund mad scientist

>>126757434
Maybe in some reality...
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>>126756396
Does Eggman even know Maria existed?
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>>126757904
He knew about his grandfather and idolized him. He likely knew he had a cousin with a debilitating disease who died in the "accident" that shut the ARK down. Even if he didn't growing up he would know from Gerald's diary.
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>>126756004
Holy shit just fuck you Pixiv
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Who wins?
Shadow or wow
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>>126758335
>Deleted

What's the matter Swatbots? Eggman's tits makes you feel uncomfortable?

>>126758969
>Wow GOHEiEHOG

He looks like he wants a hug.
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>>126759241
Would you hug that monstrosity?
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>>126758094
Speaking of Gerald, I'm surprised that for all we do know about him and his involvement with various things, there's a lot we don't know. For example, when looking for a cure to Maria's disease, what gave him the idea to create an entirely new being instead of a straight up cure? What was the purpose of the Artificial Chaos? How did he program the ARK to crash into the planet posthumously, what exactly did he do that caused the ARK raid? Was it Shadow? Was it the deal with Black Doom? How much did GUN know about what he was doing? Speaking of Black Doom, what gave Gerald the idea to inject alien blood into Shadow? How did he meet Black Doom? How did he learn of the Nocturnus and Emerl? How did Eggman come into the possession of the diaries?
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>>126755743
H-here you go.
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>>126759416
>What was the purpose of the Artificial Chaos?

I'm guessing they were the results of another projects from before Maria got NIDS.
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>>126759546
Fuck
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>>126758969
>Eye sockets on top with no eyeballs
>Fire looks like explosive flaming wings
>Strange eye in the center chest
>Floating tail
>Fuzzy

On a second look with a bit of touch up this mirror monstrosity could make a neat looking alien monster.

>>126759386
Yes, his name has a heart shape in it, he can't be so bad.
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>>126759751
>That fucking expression

Good choice on which Ian face to use.
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>>126759751
Perfect. Ty based anon.
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>>126759751
Now all we need is:
Punished Ian
A writer without comics.
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>>126759416
>For example, when looking for a cure to Maria's disease, what gave him the idea to create an entirely new being instead of a straight up cure?
G.U.N. contracted him to make the ultimate weapon. Gerald wanted to make a cure. He thought that by creating an organism immune to disease, he could accomplish both.

>What was the purpose of the Artificial Chaos?
Early prototypes, before Biolizard and Shadow, based on Chao and what he had heard about Chaos from myths.

>what exactly did he do that caused the ARK raid? Was it Shadow? Was it the deal with Black Doom? How much did GUN know about what he was doing?
Combination of his tendency to create and/or find projects that went on rampages (Artificial Chaos, Biolizard and Emerl all did) as well as the current G.U.N. Commander seeing him meet with Black Doom and telling G.U.N.

>Speaking of Black Doom, what gave Gerald the idea to inject alien blood into Shadow?
Biolizard was an inefficient and unintelligent failure, so it was pretty much his only chance.

>How did he learn of the Nocturnus and Emerl?
Research of ancient relics. Possibly traveling to Angel Island itself.

>How did Eggman come into the possession of the diaries?
Stole them and/or hacked into G.U.N. databases and/or family heirlooms.
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What the fuck is with this Janitor though?

Random posts are being deleted for no good reason.
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>>126759241
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>>126760609
Thanks for the answers
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>>126759416
A decent amount of these can be explained as "G.U.N. told him to."
>What gave him the idea to create an entirely new being instead of a straight up cure?
Probably because he was getting his funding in order to develop weaponry for G.U.N. Project Shadow, from G.U.N.'s perspective, was more of a super-soldier thing, whereas Gerald was using to research a cure for N.I.D.S.

>What was the purpose of the Artificial Chaos?
Weapon project for G.U.N. Along with the Chaos Drives, ties into Gerald's research of the Chaos Emeralds, which was also utilized for Project Shadow (even before Black Doom showed up, since the Biolizard is also capable of Chaos Control).

>How did he program the ARK to crash into the planet posthumously
I've got a couple ideas. One, the more likely, he was given remote access to the ARK's systems in order to complete Project Shadow. G.U.N. had him working on it for a while before he found out Maria died, and he didn't snap until after that. Alternatively, he had some other insider upload a program for him after he was executed.
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>>126761710

>what exactly did he do that caused the ARK raid? Was it Shadow? Was it the deal with Black Doom? How much did GUN know about what he was doing?
They probably at least thought they knew less than they wanted to. I think it was the Black Doom deal. For one thing, they likely learned of it from Abe Tower, so all they knew was Gerald was talking with a potentially dangerous alien. General paranoia would lead to them thinking Gerald might be planning to use Project Shadow to overthrow them.

>Speaking of Black Doom, what gave Gerald the idea to inject alien blood into Shadow?
He likely learned from Black Doom that he was exceedingly long-lived - I imagine Doom bragged about how many times his comet swung by Sonic's World - and concluded Black Arm DNA could be useful in developing the Ultimate Lifeform. Even more so if he also knew about how adept Doom was at using Chaos energy.

>How did he meet Black Doom?
Black Comet likely made contact with ARK as it was passing by, or vice versa.

>How did he learn of the Nocturnus and Emerl?
For all we know he was a professor of archaeology. He at least dabble in researching ancient cultures, likely as part of his Chaos Emerald study, which would explain why he researched ancient echidnas. I think Eggman also learned about Chaos from Gerald's diary, and only went to Shadow after Chaos didn't work out.

>How did Eggman come into the possession of the diaries?
Inheritance of some sort, perhaps?
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>>126761710
>>126759416
It's entirely possible that there was a long enough period of time between the raid gunning down Maria and capturing Gerald that he realized Maria was dead (possibly even saw it first-hand on security camera), snapped, and programmed in the "go fuck yourself humanity" program before the troops got to him. Would explain why he would have been separated from his grand-daughter.
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>>126760790
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>>126762149
https://youtu.be/6I1vDD6WDgM?t=3m30s

>My colleague's at the research facility, my granddaughter, Maria, I hope you are all safe.

>I found Maria's name among those who died when the ARK was shut down.

Seems to me like there was at least a day between the ARK shutting down, presumably with Gerald being taken back to the planet, and his finding out Maria died.
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>>126762734
>people actually making a serious point of this when the game came out

Or at least X-Play used it as a joke as well, but most of their jokes in Sonic reviews sounded serious. Mostly because they legit sucked at Sonic games.

I imagine if Tumblr-style SJWs had been a bigger thing in 05 that would have happened.
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>>126760602
Delivering
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>>126763605
Fucking perfect.
Would have been a bit better if you used a picture of him frowning but that's just as good.
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>>126763826
>Ian
>ever frowning
I actually tried to find one. The man is nothing but smiles all around.
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>>126763605
STANDING
ON THE EDGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrkzIN2eP0U
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>>126764076
What if Ian met Ken and had a battle?
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>>126764194
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>>126764452
>filename
>implying "the flower" isn't his one true love
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There needs to be more 3D sonic Artwork like this.
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>>126765502
>That disturbed face on Amy
I love it!
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>>126763162
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>>126765502
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>>126766128
Oh my
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>>126766128
Oppa Eggman style?
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Last thread 404'd before I could continue.

Sorry m80's maybe when the next thread is made. I'm not ballsy enough to post here.
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>>126765502
I agree, some 3D artwork is amazing
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>>126766372
>>126766589
>>126766756
>>126766775
>>126766916
Just stop.
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>>126767113
I'll'I MAAM YOOY EAAE THOOHT WOOW!
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>>126766760
I wanted to post a reply as well, too bad.

I agree about keeping it on the tail of the thread though. We'll talk next time anon.
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>>126767051
Oh really. Tell me more.
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>>126767349
Yea, I'll do that.

That way some of you faggots will have something to look forward to when the thread hits bump limit.

Don't worry I saved the text. Guess i'll just make it episodic with the thread.
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>>126767939
>>126766372
>>126766589
>>126766756
>>126766775
>>126766916
>>126767051
>>126767208
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>>126767939
You and me both, buddy

Though I don't think we're talking about the same fox
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>>126767714
I had to look at the last thread to see what was said. That was.. interesting.
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>>126768216
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>>126768216
You did it upon yourself anon.

It's not one of my prouder moments. Trust me.
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>>126768017
Will we ever see Nephthys' real face (Since the character sheet we got in 279
made a note of her having a mask). Actually, it did mention it being a cybernetic mask and I'm wondering what the point of said mask is.
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>>126768216
I went back to see what was up as well.

So yeah, that was a thing.

But in response to the writefag, you're not the only one here. I don't think I've posted anything here in over a year though, but I maintain the Writefag Idea Wall, when I remember.
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>>126768573
She had a run in with Optimus and needed a new face ever since.
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>>126768676
Glad to see i'm not alone then.
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>>126768573
Once we see if she has boobs
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>>126768835
We're not as common as the drawfags, but we also don't get run out of town by pitchfork wielding mobs as often. Because we barely ever post anything, good or bad.
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>>126759751
>>126763605
For fuck sake
these are perfect

>>126766128
oh no
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>>126769756
The problem you might have is if a swatbot looks back at the other thread. It might just grab you both regardless for posting here on what you did in the other thread.
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>>126769962
I've gotten posts hit by the Swatbots before but I've yet to banned. You never know though.
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>>126769558
DFC > Boobs
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>>126766128
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfH8p4DEUiQ
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>>126770225
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>>126767939
what
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>>126770197
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>>126770557
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>>126770678
>It's no airplane
every time
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>>126770678
>mobius
I thought it was not named island on not named float rock in space?
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>>126770981
>finest ass in Sonic's World Boom™®©
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>>126770678
>it's no airplane
Furry bomb 3 all over again
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>Sonic, Shadow and Silver race in 06 alpha build.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaHqUl_vZqc
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>>126771409
>Furry bomb
Part 6 never
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>>126765502
Fucking hell, Silver, get your shit together.
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>>126771921
Fuck, wrong guy >>126771541
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>>126771541
I get the joke but I was sorely disappointed, I was expecting to see qt porcupines.
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>>126771910
Didn't that one Sonic site provoke him to never make the 6th one? Then posted the emails.
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>>126772157

Yeah I remember that complaint typed up in Engrish and the site owner making fun of it.
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>>126772157
Damn I know what you are talking about but I forgot the name of the website. Do you remember the name? Sonic ..something
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>>126772714
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r9LNUs-f9I&list=PL_NhEbeibuc7wBUTjb9hovG3kiaJ7AAX3
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>>126772714
>>126772157
Sonic CulT
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What do you think are the best things from Adventure-style gameplay (from both games), and how would you improve it?
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>>126772969
That's it!
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>>126772969
>no more Jazwares Sonic line
I can't help but wonder what now...
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>>126772956
Because of this I can't listen to live and learn without hearing the YEAH at the beginning
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>>126773002
The ability for Sonic to move slowly is one that always comes to mind, because it's the main thing I'd want implemented into Boost gameplay. If you can actually stop and move around without suddenly blasting off, then you can do platforming without having to switch to 2D.

I also liked how fast homing attack was, but admittedly the lock-on delay is better in the long run.

>>126772969
I remember always getting them confused with Sonic Retro.

>>126773368
Doesn't Tomy have all the toy licenses now?
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>>126773368
Who knows. They might reveal a new line of figures next year for the anniversary.
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>>126773616
>it could be glorious
>it probably won't even happen
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>>126773518
Tomy does but have you seen the design or at least the paint style? It looks like even Knock off Sonic items could be better than Tomy's line.
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>>126773803
I don't have one but their plushies seem nice.

Fully agree about the figures though.
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>>126753325
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>>126773803
The plushies aren't too bad, expensive but not bad. Figures I agree 100%.
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>>126774048
>>126774364
Got sort of a 90s McDonald's Happy Meal toy charm to them.
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>>126774364
That's fuckin' terrible.
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>>126774521
So they perfectly match the quality of the franchise then?
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>>126773703
>there will never be a Figuarts Sonic line
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>>126774819
Was the quality of '90s McDonald's Happy Meal toys all fucking over the place?
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Whats the opinion besides price on First 4 Figures Sonic stuff?
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>>126775116
The eyes are odd but I like it. Still has a 90s feel though and 500 bucks for that?! No way. I'd rather buy a Death Egg.
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>>126775116
I'm baffled at their stuff, but not for the right reasons. I'm a complete sucker for on model, high quality Sonic stuff. Bonus point for big/giant size if it's not just art. But for some reason I can not get into their statues. It should be the complete opposite, I shouldn't be able to get my eyes off them, I don't know what's going on.

I guess I'm lucky, I wouldn't want to miss on them or spend so much on them either.
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>>126775116
They look pretty cool, but I've yet to see one up close personally. Pulled the trigger on pic related. I'll find out soon enough.
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>>126775116
I like the Robotnik one, outside of it being 400 bucks.

Shadow's design is well done as well but why is it so damned expensive at 900?!
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>>126757695
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>>126775595
Wait, what? 900?! This one? What the hell.
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>>126775725
>that skinny Ivo.
There needs to be more young and skinny Ivo.
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>>126775926
That's just Boom!Eggman.
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>>126775926
That's just Boom Eggman though.
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>>126775806
Can't be that one, it says ~220 on their page. But there isn't any other I can see there.

Also, most figures are on that price range now that I notice. Maybe I'll consider ordering one later down the line.
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>>126776397
The shadow is discontinued on their website when you try to order it and they refer you to another dealer like amazon which sells it for a ton.
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>I'm beginning to feel bad for whoever had to give Silver his driving test and lessons.
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>I'm beginning to feel bad for whoever had to give Silver his driving test and lessons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wE5ckUBEk0

Posting on a phone is rough.
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>>126773703
Reminded me of pic related

>>126775116
The are pretty neat
But I rather get 7 chaos emerald statues
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>>126776837
Oh. Yeah, that's the bad thing about these kind of models, once they sell out you're shit out of luck. But at least they keep some in stock if they don't completely sell them out in the preorder, I know a case where a company only sells on preorders and when they close you're too late.
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>>126777185
>yfw they sometimes do dioramas
>yfw master emerald altar with emeralds, chao, Knux, Tikal and Chaos

Yes that's never gonna happen but it would be dope as fuck
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>>126777185
You could also just buy the Chaos Emeralds.

http://www.amazon.com/Emerald-Green-Diamond-Shaped-Paperweight/dp/B001HDVKNK
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>>126777828
Ah, fuck. Not him but now I want some to have around the office. Inconspicuous enough for people not to notice where they're from?
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>>126778169
I've been thinking of getting some for a while, and finding a bigger green one for the Master Emerald as well.
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>>126777828
>>126778169
I have glass emeralds that look just like that, and no one's ever assumed that some completely-normal-looking gems are Chaos Emeralds.
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>>126777828
>tfw Sega will never have an official set of chaos emeralds made like the dragon balls
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>>126777479
It hurts doesn't it

>>126777828
Remonds me of my dragon balls
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>>126779573
>>126779601
Wait, did someone make Dragon Balls? Like, high quality ones? That I could potentially purchase?
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>>126779763
There are tons of makers that make acrylic dragon balls. One search on amazon will net you many possible choices.
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>>126779763
I got the 7,6 cm ones for 40 yoros
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>>126763029
>Wishes are eternal
That will never cease to be hilariously out of place
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>>126777060
>that last bit where it just cleanly slams through the pit wall
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last bumpu before sleepu
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>>126753171
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>>126785030
>more skyline crap
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>>126785030
>>126785176
What us Skylines exactly
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>>126785408
Drawloverlala's AU which is an excuse for a fuckton of Sonic redesigns
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>>126785408
Mediocre to bad overdesigned redesigns by drawloverlala
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>>126785408
Sonic the Hedgehog: Skyward Sword
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>>126785408
OCs disguised as Sonic characters
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>>126778169
At the place I used to work at one lady actually had all 7 chaos emeralds but was never there when I went to dump her trash
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>>126787276
Fiona can take care of herself.
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>>126788143
I still don't understand how she was able to live FOR 3 YEARS in that cell trying to dig herself out.
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Why are 82 and 279 delayed AGAIN?! I would understand for 83 and 280, but this?
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>>126789083
What's even weirder is that they were leaked, the issues are done, but Archie pulled them from the app.
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>>126789083
Guess 281 won't work with valentines day then.
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>>126789391
I'm just curious what Sally's book even is. Is it smut?
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>>126789391
Should of had Tails chasing after Sonic to.
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>>126789497
Senpai alluded to that last time he visited..
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>>126789083
What the hell are they waiting for? Marvel already rebooted now.
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>>126790110
Gotta push that Jughead and Archie, because those are coming out on time, even though the former is painful to read, and the latter is bland at best
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>>126790110
Penders guess came through maybe? He guessed a while ago they were selling the company and going under. Maybe his guess came true.. Or he's actually taking them back to court.
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>>126790303
Funny thing is, if Archie goes down, so does he. He's already drained a lot of his goodwill because of the lawsuit. If he actually gets the comic cancelled, his reputation is completely fucking gone and with that, any hopes of LSC even remotely succeeding
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>>126790434
He depends on his sisterwife, have you seen the house he lives in? I highly doubt he cares anymore, he already tells people on twitter that you will like his comic and if you don't you are a troll.
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>>126790852
He's also insanely stupid, but you all know that already
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>>126791028
Of course he is, after all at times he claims he created Sonic and gave SEGA the idea at conventions.
Also he believes in the Clinton
which is great at scandals just like him

>>126790852
He has claimed that his stuff will only be good once he dies.
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>>126791367
>He has claimed that his stuff will only be good once he dies.
Probably will be, if his estate drops this nonsense and Ian starts bringing back Pendered characters.

That is presuming the comic lives longer than Penders and Ian, or whoever else is headwriter at the time, feels the need to use old characters.
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>>126791367
Don't forget you will also have to put his copyright on your art if his 'characters' are in the art.
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>>126791635
Honestly, the fact is, with a small few exceptions, the large majority of Pendered characters either don't belong to Penders himself, or if they do, they wouldn't fit the comic as it is now. Think about the characters Penders created. How many of them do you honestly think would fit the current comic? The majority of the characters people miss weren't even made by Penders himself. Off the top of my head, the characters that Penders "made" that people miss are
>Dimitri
>Lien Da
>Geoffrey (He has more fans than you'd think)
>Scourge (His entire character beyond being evil Sonic and thus the reaso n people like him was made by Ian)
>Shard (Penders had nothing to do with him outside of the power gem concept)
>Beau (Again, Penders had no involvement outside of the concept
>Matilda (Same as above)
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>>126791635
His kids or whatever he has will probably try to go after Archie for "money" reasons. We will never see "his" characters anymore unless you have the old comics.
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>>126792073
I don't even necessarily care about the characters. There are just concepts I liked, as well as the DEEPEST LORE, at least once Ian cleaned it up.

Really, the biggest thing that bugs me are the little things that logically he should have no claim to, but since they had to settle instead of actually taking him to court we won't get. Like Scourge or Shard, but what's worst is the Nocturnus. I'm a Knuxfag and I liked the Dark Legion, and since the Nocturnus are an homage to them they'd be a decent replacement. They're from the games, and Ian has said SEGA is okay with using stuff from Chronicles. But since Chronicles is what awakened Penders in the first place they can't use it or else he'll likely cause trouble again.
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Did Ian ever try explaining that Soul Touch shit?
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>>126792640
Forgive me for asking, since I couldn't tolerate Chronicles long enough to even see Shade (The gameplay is that bad), but what was the Nocturnus' deal. I know about the Twilight cage thing and how similar they were to the Dark Legion apparently, but besides that, I know fuck all about them or Shade
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>>126792918
Nope. Penders already explained it in universe and there was no good reason to elaborate on that contrived bullshit
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>>126792073
Guess those fans can enjoy him in his full pendered glory for Geoffry then.
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>>126793041
I honestly don't remember and I don't know if I should ask for a refresher.
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>>126792741
>Matilda
Still mad.
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>>126792927
Nocturnus were a rival echidna clan to the Knuckles clan. Between the two of them there was always a constant struggle for dominance. Pachacamac going after the Chaos Emeralds was a bid to finally defeat the Nocturnus. Of course, we know how that turned out. After the Knuckles clan was essentially wiped out, the Nocturnus were set to takeover everything, but then a mystery, tentacley inter-dimensional being snatched them up and threw them in the Twilight Cage, along with other races who totally almost took over their worlds. The Nocturnus were already more tech-focused than the Knuckles - they're the Fourth Great Civilization who invented Gizoids - and so they quickly adapted the advanced tech of their alien neighbors and took over the cage, though if I recall right their rule of the cage wasn't super strong and more just no one really bothering to fight because whatever we're all stuck in here together.

In any case that gave them time to work on figuring out a way to escape. They send a team through to get the Master Emerald to make a stronger link, and that's basically where the game plot itself comes in. So, they're nothing too inventive from a story perspective, but they're at least a competently written version of the Legion, and they get points for being a whole separate nation and not just followers of one of Knuckles' distant relatives.

Shade, likewise, is a better written Julie-Su, since her reasons for leaving the Nocturnus are because their leader actually betrays her and what she thought their ideals were. Though she joins the party fairly late, so she doesn't get a ton of development.
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>>126792741
I'll miss Rosemary caring more about Politics than her own son, if the Pendering didn't happen I would of been so happy.
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>>126793916
She always did act like a milf around sonic and an ass to everyone else.
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>>126794909
Wait.. is she not wearing any pants?

>>126792741
As Senpai came on here, the comic will never be as dark as it once was.
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>>126793750
Thanks for the info anon. You're a lifesaver
>>126795081
Not a lot of the girls wore pants to be honest.
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>>126795217
Well her character normally has that part covered with a dress, so it's a bit of a shocker.
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>>126793319
I would explain it, but I just so happen to have the page that does it for me, so here ya go
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>>126794909
>>126795450
Orange and brown, why can't they pick a color and stay with it?
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>>126795568
And the rest of said explanation. I just realized it's very paltry, but I'm thankful, because I can't imagine Penders trying to scientifically explain this shit
>>126795631
Anyone outside of the main cast pre reboot had varying color palettes. Just look at Saffron, any given echidna, Gala Na, and even Bernie (Sometimes purple, sometimes blue, and sometimes colored like Amy for some reason)
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>>126795568
I'm surprised there is actually emotions and not a copy paste.
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>>126795889
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>>126795795
I remember reading this issue as a kid when it first came out and getting mad that they left a stack of pancakes lying out without eating them.
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>>126795889
>Long time ago in a galaxy far far away
Nice parody there penders.
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>>126796024
I'm mad that Knuckles is living with his father with no hard feelings 1 issue after he reunited with him and discovered that his father basically ruined his life and lied to him for 95 percent of it, faked his own death, and just fucked with him.
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>>126795889
Or when they just zoom in on the same panel. Just creepy man.
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>>126795217
No problem. Random lore infodumps and headcanon are what I'm here for (cf. my earlier posts about Gerald Robotnik).
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>>126796090
I think the idea of Nack having a sister that's also in the same business as him had potential. But like a lot of things in the dark ages in the comic it was never used well.
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>>126788548
Something Ian never did explain as Penders ruined it himself.
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Gotta go fast and not purge to the Dead zone
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>>126801563
I hate how penderp acts so smug.
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I just noticed something about Sticks render.
She's wearing spats
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>>126803427
Still don't know why the Hex team are in it.
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>>126803618
Story mode bosses? Were they confirmed playable?
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>>126803618
>Amy trying to be like rouge and show some boobs
I'm not sure if I mind this.
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>>126804001
Does that mean amy's breasts are pink and not tan?
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>>126767042
WHY
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>>126774853
I'd rather have more nendoroids.
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>>126804001
She has to compete with her somehow. Annoying fangirl doesn't always work.
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>>126806738
That Orange one, isn't she a fanmade?
>>126801563
His cockiness is beyond annoying.
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>Last page
Gotta go fast, don't prove last thread Anon's point that we are dead /sthg/!
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>>126808928

We are dead, we just don't accept it.

:^)
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>>126808928
>all this conversation in the thread.
>thread's dead.

anon, everyone is just asleep. the general is far from over.
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>>126792092
Destiny Tails will never not look ridiculous

>>126796090
but he doesn't know about it :^)
the guy is fucking idiot

>>126803427
>She's wearing spats
oh

>>126803618
So who are you people going to main
I'll probably take Tails & Omega
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>>126807375
>That Orange one, isn't she a fanmade?
yes
Evan's OC
Silvers sister

>>126809009
>That image
It's all coming back now

>>126809315
don't worry I once got banned for shitposting in >>>/s4s/
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>>126809653
>>That image
>It's all coming back now

I have no idea what it's from. illuminate me, with text.
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>>126809945
porn
a lot of it
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>>126809653

> main character sibling OC
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>>126810136
Illuminate me with links since the swatbot is a swine.
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>>126792741
>Classic Amy Rose
>Metal Sonic 3.0
HOW ARE THOSE CHARACTERS FUCKING PENDERED
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>>126789497
Kama Sutra
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>>126803618
>all mario girls are in their gymnast outfits
They know what they're doing, aren't they?
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>>126810635
Either too well or not well enough, since the Sonic girls don't get sports wear or swimsuits this time.
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>>126810376
and risk getting banned?
no thanks

artist Michiyoshi
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>>126803618
>all mario girls in swimwear
>none of the sonic girls

Still salty.
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>>126811767
kek
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>>126771409
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>>126813717
Dunno. That flip out during her flashback says maybe.
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>>126810950
What about Amy here?
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>>126814237
Doesn't really look different to me
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>>126815413
Isn't she wearing the same swimsuit/gymnastics outfit from the 2012 game?
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http://www.tssznews.com/2015/12/27/revised-sonic-25th-anniversary-logo-appears/
Lemme just drop this here
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>>126810546
Rosie in this case is specifically the Anti-Mobius Amy, so she's gone with the rest of the old multiverse. Though I wouldn't be surprised if they also can't use the classic Amy design, since they can't use classic Eggman either.

Shard is gone because Penders claims creation of the power gem inside him, even though he didn't write the story when he got a power gem or when he got rebuilt by Chuck and became Shard.
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>>126817825
>even though he didn't write the story when he got a power gem
Yes he did. The Knuckles Chaotix issue is when he got the gem.
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>>126818061
Was it? Must have misremembered.

In any case, much like Anti-Sonic, it's one of those characters that are just slightly altered version of game characters that Penders thinks he should own.
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>>126817825
>>126810546
Shame. I actually liked Rosy, even if she was "What if Amy was the crazy yandere that the fans make her out to be"
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>>126793217
Reminder that he literally made that page via Google Translate and when called out on it, said that Belgians can't speak french and "His French friend said it was ok"
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>>126798118
SUCH A LUST FOR REVENGE
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>>126821253
Why do I have a feeling that his "French friend" is also his "Jewish friend"?
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>>126817805

Searching Tails crackships is fun.
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>>126803618
I can play as my boy Roy?

Sign me the fuck up
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>>126805942
That too. Amy Nendoroid when?

>Piko Piko Hammer accessory
>Warrior Feather from SA1
>Chaos Emerald (different colour to Sonic's one)
>neutral smile, blushing, and mad expressions
>bonus handholding arm part for those with a Sonic nendo
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fug

RIP Any hope of something original
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>>126824350
Fuck it, I'll take Gens 2.
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>>126824350
>Classic Sonic whoring for the 25th
Fuck
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>>126824350
nice
very nice
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>>126824350
Where's this from?
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>>126824350

> Classic Sonic
> Not Boom Sonic

There is hope.
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>>126824642
http://www.tssznews.com/2015/12/29/official-sonic-25th-anniversary-logo-debuts/
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>>126824549
Pretty much this, unfortunately.
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>>126824726
Guess I'll have to wait and see when they actually announce the game. After all, they could just be using classic Sonic in the logo like how they've been using him for the lives symbol, but the game could still be something coming out of nowhere.
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>>126824350
So, there a good chance Modern/Legacy Sonic is done? There's been nothing regarding him for 2016, no merch. Only Classic and Boom.
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>>126824350
Post your face when the 25th Anniversary "game" is just another collection of classic games but with some shit added to them like that Mega Man collection recently.
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>>126824948
Archie comics confirmed for canceled soon.
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>>126825265
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>>126825265
Yo, I'd be down for that if it's the Taxman ports, plus S3&K and Spinball Taxman remakes.
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>>126825265
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>>126825475
>Taxman ports

Lol
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post more cats
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>>126824350
>>126824549
after all the mediocre/shitty games we have gotten since generations i'm happy they decided to go back to something that was decent.

still waiting for momentum based 3D sonic that will probably never ever be made though
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>>126825265
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>>126825701
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>>126825716
Gens 2 isn't confirmed, but I like to think that's the direction they are going if they are going to nostalgia whore again.

Gens had some issues, mostly in lack of variety in level choices, Classic's physics, and disappointing story.

Hopefully, they fix those mistakes if they are going to do it again.
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>>126825265
Would be done with this series.
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>>126824350
What scares me is the possible idea of them trying to make a full-on Classic game.

In my opinion, Sonic Team has gotten way worse at 2D since they started reintroducing it into gameplay again, and I would have no hope for the game, if that is the case.
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>>126825019
You're assuming too much. Classic is how Sega started. Modern isn't going anywhere
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>>126826659
>tfw Modern's been around over twice as longer than Classic has
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>>126826578
A story doesn't have to be complicated to be well written. Simple stories are perfectly fine for Sonic games. The problem with Gens is that it was supposed to be a celebration of the franchise, but since Pontaff refuse to look at previous games they dropped the ball so many times on opportunities to make references. If you're going to make "Fanwank the Game", then at least get writers who know something about the series.
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>>126824350
I'm just curious what the comics will be doing for the 25th if Classic is the focus
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>>126826035
i mean other types of cat
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>>126827007
Genesis 2
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>>126827029
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>>126824350
I'm expecting major disappointment.
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>>126827127
i mean like cats that comes from other dimensions
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>>126827665
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>>126826964
>Gens gives a story you shouldn't give a shit about
>Just like every Sonic product ever
>Somehow this isn't fanwanky enough

Jesus, it's like you're walking, breathing proof of the "Sonic fans are autistic" meme. Don't you have some art to recolor and make an OC out of somewhere?
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>>126828028
Just opinions, anon. No need to get so upset. You're free to not care about story in Sonic games, but I find a good plot adds more fun to a game.
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>>126828028
I dunno, the fact that classic Amy and classic Knuckles didn't show up at all was a pretty big missed oppourtunity, and I would've loved more scenes with classic Eggman (I know that was the big twist, but it's worth giving up the surprise factor for some potentially fun interactions)
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>>126828028
A game like Gens and potentially a future nostalgia whoring game should've been full of little references in cutscenes.
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>>126822154
It is
tfw no good Tails and Ahri pic

>>126824350
wew

>>126825265
Eh I would get it since I have problems with classic Sonic games

>>126827975
So who is cuter
Zooey or Sonar
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>>126828665
I wouldn't have minded more cutscenes like the ones that happened after Green Hill and Chemical Plant
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>>126828928
>Zooey or Sonar
Sonar by far. Better character design, better characterization overall, and she has an interesting niche along with her companions
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>>126828935
We should've gotten more like them, but we didn't.
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I want.
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>>126828935
>Hey, remember this place?
>Nope
>Hey, this place feels familiar
>Woah, deja vu, bro
And then they just left the small references to the characters waiting outside the level entrances.

This was the perfect oppurtunity to laugh at themselves with Sonic's ups and downs over the years. Maybe have the characters talk fondly about their previous adventures. What a fucking letdown.
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>>126829356
I'm guessing Japan only? They get all the cool merch, despite Sonic never being as popular there as in the West.
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>>126829542
Probably. I'd really prefer slippers than a shoe, though.
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>>126829532
>No cutscene after City Escape with Sonic commenting on how the truck was "much nastier this time"
>No Sonic reminiscing with Knuckles about how they became friends and them taking the piss out of each other
>Nothin about Sonic not being able to remember Crisis City because 06 retconned itself
Fucking hell
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>>126829797
A lot of stuff like that was actually cut out

Probably for the best anyway, P&G would have wrote them
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>>126829873
I wonder if they'll be back for Sonic's 25th anniversary game
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>>126830190
Are they writing Fire & Ice?
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>>126829797
>entering Seaside Hill
>"Hey, Sonic! Why don't we tag along for this one. It'll be just like old times"
>"Uh, I think I'm okay with you not smashing my head into the dirt"
"Oh come on, you still won't let that go? It worked, didn't it?"
Or something along those lines.
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>>126830391
Yup. I don't get why they don't just have the show writers do it instead
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>>126830671
Maybe the show writers wouldn't be great at writing for a game, different medium and all? Or maybe P&G are just cheaper.
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>>126830860
True that
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>>126830860
I'm hoping putting Pontaff on Fire & Ice means that they're going to stay on Boom because it's the Western spin-off and they're the Western writers, while the main series will go back to Sonic Team writers.
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>>126828928

Internet surprises me.
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>>126831750
Theodore won't like this
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>Sonic Generations 2

>Fully 2D gameplay with slight gimmicks

>Classic has his normal moves inspired by Sonic 1. 2. CD, 3 & Knuckles, Super Peelout and item Boxes are exclusive to him.

>Modern / Legacy's gameplay was inspired by the Advence games and Sonic Rush Games, Features the Homing attack and Boost. Wisp Powers are exclusive to him

>Boom is more in line with Shattered Crystal and Fire and Ice, The Enerbeam tether allows him to swing across any wide places . Helpers / Buddies are exclusive to him
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>>126832290
>Fully 2D
Dropped faster than Sonic runs.
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>>126832290
>Sonic Generations 2
>Legacy Sonic and Boom Sonic
>Legacy Sonic plays like Lost World except sloppier
>Boom Sonic plays roughly the same as in Rise of Lyric, which means boring and shit
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>>126828928
Zooey because she's not a dirty traitor
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>>126832290
>Super Peelout
More like, super useless
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>>126829048
That's what I thought to
how about losers boat

>>126831750
Sorry I don't recognize the other

>>126833149
hey now Sonar isn't dirty traitor
she just thinks what's best for the people in there
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>>126754571


Seeing a sympathetic side tends to come when characters aren't just cardboard vilean cutouts. Take pedos for example, some of the most hated people in society. Yet majority of them were victims themselves or come from fucked up backgrounds that were out of their control.

>>126755858
Not seeing the problem with evil guy having Charm. It works for Dr. Doom and Luthor. Or do you miss his pure Hitler days (which were actually quite fun in showing how psychotic he is)?

>>126753325
Best post of thread.

>>126817825
I don't think there would be anything stopping anti-amy from coming back. The real problem is the fact you can't use anti-sonic world, anti-freeedom fighters, or anything even mentioned prior to Ian..So writing her in isn't worth it.

>>126829356
Need this.
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>>126824350
Oh great, green hill zone.... again
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>>126834938
It's always Green Hill or Seaside Hill
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>>126834132
>Best post of thread.
thanks

>>126834562
oh ok

>>126835215
I didn't have any
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>>126835270
When is the last time we got a somewhat different opening stage?
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>>126836367
Colors
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>>126836367
Colors had Tropical Resort, which was pretty different, and Sonic 4 ep 2 had Sylvania Castle, which was semi unique
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>>126836367
>>126836614
And Sonic Adventure 2
And Sonic Advanced 3
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>>126837871
kek
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>>126836724
And Shadow. Unleashed to an extent as well
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>>126824350
>grew up with Adventure games
>see this
>mfw
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>>126837871
bumpy
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>>126838943
Hump the Bump
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I've been thinking. What if shadow's red streaks only appeared when he used his Chaos powers? Do you think that might make him more unique?
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>>126840338
No. If anything, that would make him just Black Sonic (even more so than usual).
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>>126840681
but wouldn't it make Amy not seem so fucking stupid in SA2 for mistaking him for sonic? He was originally called "evil sonic" anyway.
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>>126841019
Amy is fucking stupid. Either that, or she has really bad eyesight in general.
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>>126839519
Bumpier.
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If you guys can't see how and why Shadow is identical to Sonic, you are completely missing the point of Shadow's character and design.
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>>126840338
It'd be entirely pointless
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>>126841356
adorable
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>>126841019
>>126841158
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>>126841319
By your logic, I've got a Polish last name and I live in the Montana woods, so that totally makes me identical to Ted Kaczynski.
Oh wait, I didn't write "Industry Society and Its Future" although I have read it and attempt to submit it to the New York Times in exchange for stopping an almost 20-year long bombing campaign.

Sonic and Shadow don't even look that alike. How anyone could think they're "identical" is beyond me.
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>>126841356
sally/10
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>>126842130
*"Industrial Society and Its Future"
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>>126842067
Kek. Ian did this didn't he? I can't think of anyone else who'd point that out.
>>126841679
I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss everything. Try opening your heart a little anon. It could be a fun little thing.
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>>126803618
>Zavvok
Well it's nice to know he won't fall into absolute obscurity after Lost World.
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>>126842952
I'm open to new ideas that add things with actual merit. What would changing Shadow's colors whenever he uses his powers add?
>>126842952
>Is this from Ian
Yup
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>>126841887
>>126842161
thank yooou
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>>126844237
I'll put 100 on "laughably bad" for that one.
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>>126844638
Good because it's from a fanmade Season 4 of Sonic X. I'm not even joking.
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>>126844782
In what way? In any context, probably very.
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Was 4chan dead early in the morning?

>>126803618
>Sonic playing golf
>a game about slow and patience
I have no problem with there being a minigame but for promotional art it feels odd.
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>>126843947
Just some slight uniqueness. the only thing that would really change is the red streaks only show up when he uses his powers is all.
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So...speculation time? What're your hopes/expectations about the next SU arc?
>Eggman being based as usual
>new Egg Boss shenanigans
>Witchcarters and Badniks fucking shit up
>Kukku v. Naugus rematch
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>>126846509

Looking at all the female Egg Bosses, I'm surprised at how well the Eggman Empire uniforms lend so well to the female figure.

I'm going to have to draw a thick deer, aren't I?
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>>126846509
Why are there no human egg bosses?
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So, this happened
http://www.tssznews.com/2015/12/29/official-sonic-25th-anniversary-logo-debuts/
>Official Sonic 25th Anniversary Logo Debuts

I was going to whine and complain because there's been jack shit about Modern Sonic yet but upon opening the twitter link there is a huge ass Modern Sonic on the side so I'm gonna just hold off for a bit more.
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>>126846993
Snively
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>>126847020
>mfw right after posting that I see >>126824350
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>>126847020
>>126847158
Jesus, look at this slow faker
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>>126847229
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>>126846807
You know what must be done, anon
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>>126847360
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>>126846807
Yes. Yes you do.
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>>126846509
Fun Egg Boss interactions are the #1 thing I want from this arc
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What is the absolute worse thing they could put in the 25th anniversary, that would make you give up on sonic forever
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>>126848616
Lyric.
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>>126846807
Now that you've said it, YOU MUST.
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>>126848616
Unfinished and untested gameplay rushed out within a year of development in time for a Christmas release.
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>>126848616
Boom
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>>126848616
Anything Boom related.
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>>126849067
I mean, thats a given, its a sonic game
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>>126848616
Rush it harder than 06.
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>>126848616
I can't give up on Sonic, I just can't, I already pretty much ignore half the shit that's out there, but I would be completely heartbroken if they screw this up. Boom would be a dealbreaker, putting a game out that can barely start because of how buggy it is too, as would be screwing up the characterizations badly.
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>>126824350
So they just showing classic logo right and tomorrow going to show modern one
And 25th game going to be Generation 2 right guys Right?
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>>126849076
>>126849107
Besides Sticks, right? Because we all know she's gonna be in.
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>>126824350
At the very least, detail is back, even if that is just GHZ from Generations and probably not something from the actual game. But still, it would be weird to have a promotional logo with a detailed aesthetic for a game that looks like Mario.
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>>126850576
Technically, this isn't for any particular game.
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>>126850406
I'd stick my stick in Sticks if you stick what I stick.
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>>126850406
Especially Sticks
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>>126833376
Why do people say the super peelout is useless? It's a shitload faster than the spindash and doesn't eventually cause Sonic to lose speed, at the expense of not being in spinball-form. It has a different use than the spindash, and I use it all the time.
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>>126851275
I'm sorry anon
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>>126851302
Because they're used to the Sonic 2/Sonic 3 spindash which is basically the CD spindash and peel-out combined.
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>>126850809
I do not stick-prehend.
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>>126824350
>modernfags on suicide watch

Kek, Classic for life
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>>126852339
>Classicfag acting like a bitch as usual
Kek, both eras for life.
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>>126852339
I like both. And also think that Boom-Sonic is ok.
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>>126852339
>>126852720
>Sonicfags

Cake, Mario for life.
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>>126852803
So you have no taste, at all?
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>>126852923
>To have taste you must dislike and bash things

I don't mind the designs. Classic and Legacy/Modern are good. Boom is ok.

Arguing about designs is just a shitfest since is up to every own opinion. And the "Classic vs Modern" fight is Youtube/Facebook comments levels of idiocy. The only thing that somehow "bother" me about Boom-Sonic is the excessive long legs. Outside that, it's ok.
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>>126853506
>Youtube/Facebook comments levels of idiocy

So a step or two up from here?
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So since i'm going back to sonic i want to try comics but don't know from what to start
Should i start with very first issue or?
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>>126853506
This is better be bait
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>>126853829
If you want the full experience, read everything. Otherwise start at 252 for the current continuity.
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>>126853829
Start from the beginning and read as far as you can stomach. Current writer picks up on #160 and is considered to be where things get good again. Continuity reboots at #252 and is where we are now. Those are the three best starting points.

Personally I always recommend to read everything so one can truly appreciate the good from the bad.
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>>126854002
I'm not that anon but I don't see how he's wrong.
They're all pretty good designs
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>>126853829
The reboot starts with the first Sonic/Megaman crossover Worlds Collide. For Sonic individually it starts with issue 252. Everything before Worlds Collide is irrelevant to the current continuity, so skim through the prior material at your leisure.
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>>126853829
You got three choices.

1. Start the ride from the beginning. Ride the whole thing out the good and the bad.

2. Start from 175 where Flynn is done sweeping bullshit under the rug and can get started on actually making story arcs

3. 252 because that is where the new continuity begins.

I personally think you should go with option 2.
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>>126854002
It sounds like it. I mean Classic and Modern Sonic being good designs? Who'd believe that bullshit?
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>>126854086
>>126854194
>>126854241
>>126854428
Gonna start from beginning then
thanks
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>>126854703
Enjoy the Gallagher writing while it lasts.
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>>126854703
Make sure to read the Knuckles comics when they start get drunk as fuck beforehand because that's the only way you'll be able to stomach them
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>>126824350
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>>126824350
Huh, didn't notice the waterfalls in the back there. Looks a lot more similar to the original Green Hill background than Gens had in-game.
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>>126842130
They literally have the exact same body and spikes. The only difference is color, and Shadow's arms and chest being furrier, and Shadow's spikes spreading out and up like SA1&2 Super Sonic. By you're logic, Sonic and Super Sonic look nothing alike.

Sonic and Shadow literally have the exact same body and abilities, and even personality deep down.
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>>126824350
calling it now. Site and logo will be updated and changed to show that Eggman is hacking the 25th anniversary and the announcement is that we're finally getting a game all about Eggman.
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>>126855453
yeah i'm planning to read all that shit
too bad cant found a chronology
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OH SHIT
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Why does the classic logo make everybody sweat? Can't handle how it all began with a blue rodent with no green eyes?
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>>126856819
>tumblr file name

Yeah, that's totally legit.
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>>126856819
Has there ever been an office stage in any Modern game?
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>>126856793
One actually does exist, but I can't post it since I'm not at my computer right now? Anyone got the reading order chart?
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>>126856892
Because it likely means more fucking nostalgia whoring and people (Including me) are fucking sick of it
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>>126857127
I've got it, but my Sonic folder is horribly unorganized. Give me a minute, unless someone else has it more handy.
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>>126824350
>yfw Classic Superiority
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>>126857285
But Sonic is nothing but nostalgia whoring for the 90s.
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So now that it's confirmed that Sally dies in the next story arc, what now?
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>>126858348
Make way for Princess Elise, the superior princess.
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>>126858348
Sticks takes her place as the new princess of acorn.
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>>126858348
>Sally (or any character) dying this early in the reboot
Not happening. Also nothing has alluded to this whatsoever
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Sonic Boom season 2 when?
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>>126858786
It's probably going to be about July before we see anything.
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What does "being pendered" mean exactly?
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>>126859071
Being erased/made unusable in the Archie comics due to the Penders lawsuit
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>>126856793
>>126857363

Alright, there're a couple versions of this, but here's the first one I found.
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>>126838576

... and that's where I quit for today. Bump and good night.
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>>126862370
>Kursed
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>>126825265
What if it's a collection of old Sonic games but with shit added to them like that Megaman collection recently but they are all ported by Taxman?
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>>126857095
Not really, but I guess Speed Highway is the closest we have to that.
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>>126864352
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>>126864352
He's doing a consultant job for another developer so I doubt it.
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is it dead
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>>126865070
Busy over in the /v/ thread.
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>>126864352
>but they are all ported by Taxman?

Lol, like they'd pay for that shit when they can just put some roms and an emulator together. Besides Taxman is working for Freedom Planet 2 now.
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>>126865616
No, he's making them an engine in Unity. Once that's done, his work with them will be over and I doubt it will take him a whole year to shit out a halfway decent engine for them to squander.
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>>126865070
Never.
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Comic when?
More 25th anniversary details when?
New Sonic animated show when?
FP2 when?
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All right, let's settle this once and for all...

Which lackey is best lackey?
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Requesting source on Amy's mouth

If it can't be posted here an artist or directions on finding it would be appreciated, too.
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>>126869901
1) Scratch, Grounder and Coconuts
2) Orbot and Cubot
3) Snively
4) Bokkun
5) Crabmeat
6) Bocoe and Decoe
7) Cluck
8) Sleet and Dingo
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>>126869901
Jon Gray draws one handsome Snively.
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>>126854818
here you go
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>>126869901
Gotta go with Snively
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>>126869901
凸凹 (Deko and Boko). I had so much fun with them.
>they will never ever be featured again (probably for the better though)
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>>126869901
Snively
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>>126869576
>Don't be fool, Sonny Boy!

I love DLL's grasp of the English language.
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>>126865070
sauce?
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I didn't have anywhere else to share this.
http://hanybe.deviantart.com/art/Com-Fists-the-Echidna-555251062
Am I the only one who saw that name and immediately thought of something dirty?
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>>126871013
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>>126874797
thank you, kind anon
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>>126871527
>>126871353

Forever forgotten.

The only loyal long term lackey with an IQ above 10.
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>>126876135
Ah, quite right. Slot him in the list right behind Snively.
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>no taxman port of knuckles' chaotix ever
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Does anyone know the name of the song used in the Desert Ruins event in Sonic Runners a while back. Not the stage theme , but the menu theme. I can't seem to find it.
>>126803618
>Eggman Nega
Woah they are acknowledging his existence?
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>>126877137
Right? Chaotix is ____________shit._______________
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>>126790852
It gets better
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blaze x sally
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>>126877137
No way Sonic Team would allow a remake of a game that is considered non-canon.
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>>126881809
But they made HD versions of SA1&2.
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>>126882069
heh
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>Found out that Tojyo streams and still works on sonic stuff.

I thought he stopped for good after the FA thing?
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>>126883881
give it time
he'll find another reason to quit the internet forever
maybe someone will start screencapping his streams and reposting (without permission, naturally) the stuff he draws
maybe that'll happen
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>>126864352
It's probably every single Sonic game to date for the ps4 and xbox one only collection.
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>>126884884
Stop posting cancer.
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>>126886667
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What would their music sound like?
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>>126886667
Saltcore does some good bunnie
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>>126887493
Crush 40.
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If Penders spontaneously died of a heart attack, would the sonic world be a better place?
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>>126892450
Humanity as a whole would be better off
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>>126895338
WEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINER
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>>126892450
If only his estate on the comic would be dropped as well. He's already defined his "family" will take up his mantle.
>>126884884
That looks kind of cool, is that Evan's work?
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>>126895562
>That looks kind of cool, is that Evan's work?
Nope
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>>126895616
Ah well, thought it might of been with her Ghosts of the Future artstyle looked similar to it.
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>>126896652
No it doesn't stop posting cancer.
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>>126896956
I'm sorry, what do you mean by that good sir?
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>>126897192
He probably means the fact that the Bunnie pic was a reference to FNAF
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>>126897390
Ah I don't follow the trends until I looked it up and now regret it.
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I'm having fun with Lost World.
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>>126897942
How far in are you?
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>>126897942
Not for long.
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>>126895562

>"family"

I would hope his sister/wife would finally come to the realization that her brother/husband is a flaming autist. And that the rest of his family would distance themselves from him like the plague.
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What do you call heavy, fast paced Sonic music?

Sonicor

I'LL BE GRINDING HERE ALL WEEK, FOLKS
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>>126898716
No, that's.. that's okay. You can go.
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>>126898054
Tropical Coast.
>>126898332
Why?
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>>126898840
>Tropical Coast.
>Why?
Because the minute it hits Frozen Factory it all goes to hell
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>>126898967
I'm guessing the level design takes a nosedive?
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>>126899070
Like you wouldn't believe.
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>>126899168
Well damn, I thought it was solid so far. I'll prepare myself for the worst when I get there.
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>>126899283
pic related regarding your level of preparation
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>>126886304
It's a bunnie pic. How in the heck could it be cancer? Unless you meant his idea what our 25th anniversary game is.
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>>126900465
The pic itself was also a reference to FNAF, which was what probably what sparked the comment
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>>126900465
It's probably that guy who keeps telling us how dead our General is.
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>>126900645
How the hell did Miles make that stupid fucking hairstyle not look terrible
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>>126900645
No, that guy is an autistic bitch. I'm just someone who's tired of seeing FNaF being forced everywhere I look.
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>>126900629
>>126900721
It's a photo of Bunnie completely robotized and possible dead How in the hell is it all of a sudden FNaF, you seem to be assume to quickly.
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>>126900885
>How in the hell is it all of a sudden FNaF, you seem to be assume to quickly.
The original artist for the pic flat out says it's Bunnie as a FNAF character
http://marthedog.tumblr.com/post/135862640649/the-sixteenth-set-featuring-bunnie-rabbot-as
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>>126900885
It's clearly supposed to be that over-the-top yellow fucker from the third game.
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>>126901047
Woah, spoil that post before you post to lewd man
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>>126901447
Speaking of lewd, Saltcore uploaded the Christmas pic to his tumblr
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Are there instrumental versions of the character themes from the Adventure games?
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>>126901898
Yes. Use Google.
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>>126901898
Found this
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVJ9rfsvlglzBZU7sCYV6fGnpLP5UuqxZ
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>>126901418
Doesn't look like it.
>>126901898
Yes.
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>>126902086
Yes it does.
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>>126902271
>>126902086
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>>126902067
literally the worst rips I've ever heard, but now I know what album to download
these are fucking terrible
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>>126902271
He's yellow just like her, thats it. Don't be like that autistic guy saying our thread is dead all the time. Unless you just don't like Bunnie.
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>>126902358
How are they terrible?
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This discussion is shit. Change it.
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>>126902424
If it didn't look like yellow fucker, I wouldn't have noticed. I mean seriously, just look at it. Wide human teeth lined on the mouth of a South Park Canadian head, a mechanical mouth on the inside, and rips on the skin with wires coming out.
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>>126902460
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujF0t3zQbaI (Good)
compare to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY7lxrXzDZA (Bad)

The second one (the version in question) all sound like they're playing on a blown-out speaker cranked too high. The levels are totally fucked, and it makes them all sound bad.
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>>126902514
Nice job countering an argument.
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>>126902638
>>126902424
You both know that the tumblr post I linked here >>126901047 flat out says she's supposed to be that character, right? Your argument is fucking pointless. Move on or shut the fuck up
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Looks, let's just all agree that MartheDog is fucking terrible and talk about something else, like how the 25th anniversary game is gonna be nostalgiabating to the highest level imaginable, but will still suck dick to play.
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Post more cute before the swat-bots shut us down. After all last 25 posts will probably be deleted by em
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>>126902878
We don't know what kind of gameplay it will have or what it will even look like.
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>>126902878
Agreed. I really don't get how anyone can be ok with more nostalgia whoring. It reached its peak with Generations and by Sonic 4 ep 2 it was already getting incredibly aggravating
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Ok, I read 6 issues of the Knuckles comics and I can't take it anymore. How did any of you finish it?
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>>126902970
I was 10.
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>>126902878
Unless they go 8bit or 16bit, no one will be happy going the nostalgic route.
>>126902901
No kidding. Autistic over some guy's artwork.
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>>126902878
I have zero faith in the game if they try to do 2d gameplay again.
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So now that the dust has settled, who came first and what was inside?
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>>126902970
Drinking. A lot of drinking, breaks, and listening to music I liked. You're not even at the worst part of the Knuckles comics or even the comics in general. But then again it'll be a while before you get to the nadir of the comics, and it's right before the comic gets really good, so it all balances out in the end. That last stretch of comic before 160 is absolute hell though
>>126903073
This. The 2D gameplay has been the worst part of every game since Sonic 4 (With Colors being a slight exception. Even then it was still pretty weak)
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>>126902878
I just want them to try Adventure style gameplay again, is that so wrong?
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>>126903053
yeah that'll do it
kids will read literally anything that features a character they like
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WHEN ARE WE GONNA SEE HIM
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>>126903397
Classic's gameplay will suck. Guaranteed.
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>>126903232
>>126903397

Would you stop samefagging already?
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>>126903475
My biggest hope at this point is just Generations 2, which plays exactly like the first one just with different levels. At least it'd be guarenteed to not be terrible. Fucking hell I just want a fully 3D game already
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>>126900718
I thought it looking like a horrible DA OC hairstyle, to fit with Scourge being just a green recolor, was the point?
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>>126903908
It was, which makes the fact that it didn't look like complete garbage all the more peculiar
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>>126903835
What no 8 bit or 16 bit?
>>126902878
Can I borrow your ability to tell exactly what a game will be like from an unrelated logo?
The 10th Anniversary logo had nothing to do with SA2.
The 15th Anniversary logo had nothing to do with Sonic 06.
The 20th Anniversary logo had nothing to do with Generations.
Why should the 25th Anniversary logo be any different?
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What the fuck is an Enerjak?
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>>126904027
Sports drink
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>>126904072
I'm being serious. I don't get Enerjak's deal. Gonna guess it's one of Penders' things. Did he ever explain where that name for that or the naming conventions for the female echidnas came from?
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>>126903908
>>126903960
Because he actually has class? Unlike Tails who cries ALL the time.
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>>126904128
Enerjak is the name Dmitri gave himself after absorbing a bunch of chaos energy. Seriously, that's it. He literally gave himself an edgy 90's comic villain name and then said he wasn't a villain.
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>>126904027
Enerjak's basically an evil echidna spirit, that's all you need to know
>>126904128
For the former, no. For the latter, he ripped it right from the Kryptonian naming scheme ( In fact a lot of shit about the echidnas is ripped from Superman. As a matter of fact, if you have alcohol, take a shot every time Penders obviously rips something off. 2 shots if it's from Star Trek/Star Wars
>>126904008
>What no 8 bit or 16 bit?
No fuck that. Full 3D or bust. This 2d/3d mix shit needs to fucking die and stay dead
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>>126904274
You already have that starting from Sonic 3D and beyond. Everything has been 3D or Wannabe 2D but it's actually using a 3D design. What I'm talking about is the old shit the 8 bit or 16 bit. Not anything in 3D or wannabe 2D.
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>>126904274
tfw it's going to be Sonic Anniversary Collection that include all old sonic games and
thats all
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>>126904240
Remember this is Penders we are talking about, his writing is atrocious.
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>>126904801
>Copy of Kennedy Speech and Hitler's, along with the Holocaust poem and how his twitter is with politics. I'm surprised such shit could fly in a kids comic.
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>>126905050
Don't forget him claiming that's supposedly Dimitri's wife next to him in that photo.
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>>126905180
With a beard?
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Post crossovers.
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>>126905497
Lets tone it down with the photos, we have 150 more posts to go before cap and only 14 more image slots left.
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>>126905662
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>>126905557
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>>126906353
So terrible.
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>>126906353

> tfw Megaman is ded
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>>126906615
He went on ahead to make sure it was safe for Sonic.
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>>126906353
What I want to see is a Sonic X Mario Crossover that isn't the damn Olympic games
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>>126906815

> tfw Sonic will die too
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>>126906826
Maybe we will see it in Comic form Anon.
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>>126907061
>Pink Sonic
Wat.
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>>126906353

What if that's the 25th Anniversary?! A Sonic X Megaman Crossover.

Or what >>126884884 said which would be a major letdown.
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>>126906826
No thanks shit going to be worse than mega men
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>>126906826

> implying

You know that Sonic completely overmatches Mario in every thing?

Not saying that Sonic > Mario, they are both fun games. But that the 'Sonic' character is unbelievable OP compared to 'Mario'.
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>>126906826
>there will never be a Superstar Saga-type Mario & Sonic RPG
Tuck me in. Let me die.
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>>126906826
After what was said on twitter? It will never happen.
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>>126907347

Sonic is stronger than Mario = Crushes robots with simple attacks.

Sonic is faster than Mario = Runs at screens and screens with easy.

Sonic jumps HIGHER than Mario = Seriously, you can check on games if you don't believe it.

Sonic has better power ups than Mario = Fire shield, lightning shield, water shield > fire flower, leaf, mushroom.

Sonic is more resilient than Mario = Sonic only dies if he is attacked without a single ring, but he drops rings and can collect them when attacked. Mario only has 3 hits at most (power, big size and small size).

I could go on, but... yeah, you get the idea. Sonic also has a super form too, something Mario lacks.

> inb4powerstar

Sonic also gets invulnerability pickups... and I think they have more time than ordinary stars.
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>>126907598

Concluding, a game like that would go like DC x Mortal Kombat: DC characters would have to be massive nerfed and Mortal Kombat empowered to give some kind of balance.
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>>126907489
SAVAGE
A
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>>126907489
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>>126904274
>>What no 8 bit or 16 bit?
>No fuck that. Full 3D or bust. This 2d/3d mix shit needs to fucking die and stay dead
I actually enjoy 2D in my 3D games. Bah, it's more like I don't really have a problem with it.
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>>126908393
But it's not real 2D, more like a 3D engine forced to play in 2D mode.
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>>126908551
I'm not sure why that is important. What matters is whether you have fun with 2D sections or not, and I don't really have a problem with them. At the end of the day I only care for the game to be fun, I don't care if it has or doesn't have 2D sections as long as it's fun, but it doesn't ruin the game for me if it does.
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>>126909168 I didn't say it wasn't fun, I'm just putting out the point it's not real 2D. It's a 3D Engine using 2D.
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>>126909492
No that's graphics then not 2D vs 3D.
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>>126873820
is lewd so I can't

>>126879525
cute

>>126901534
pic related
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>New Classic Content
>New Boom Content
>Legacy Fags on suicide Watch
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>>126906353

Ugh. Should have been Sega vs. Capcom, the game. That damn crossover was a dissatisfying as all hell.
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>>126912283
>>Legacy
I forgot it was called that now days
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What would Sonic characters look like as mothers?
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I want to make Sonic lose all his rings.
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>>126913362
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>>126913412
kek
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>>126792741
>Lizard girl is in there twice
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>>126883881
Too slow. He just started posting to Pixiv and more recently, Patreon.
Before people start complaints about paywalling, keep in mind it's $1 for everything and it gives him a venue to post uncensored material.
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>>126887896
>see his new Christmas pic
I'm beyond diamonds right now. Is there a harder metal known to man?
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>>126915809
>diamonds
>metal
erry tiem
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>>126902878
The main thing holding back any hype for Classic gameplay is they're not letting Taxman handle the physics.
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>>126902970
The first time I read them was when they were first released and I knew no better. The second and third times I at least had other anons to also make fun of how stupid it was so there was at least SOME enjoyment to be had.
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>>126904274
>No fuck that. Full 3D or bust. This 2d/3d mix shit needs to fucking die and stay dead

Fucking thank you. There's nothing more jarring than the sudden transition when I've got a good flow going in 3D running.
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Good morning, /sthg/
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>>126919552
Help us live. Don't let Bump die.
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>>126919593
I'd rather Sage lived.
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Did Swatty go on a ban spree or something? Things died so suddenly an hour ago.
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What moment from the comics would be fun in a game adaptation? What part from the games would you want to see in the comics?
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>>126919552
morning anon

>>126919859
I doubt

>>126920827
>What part from the games would you want to see in the comics?
well I'm already getting what I want but Tails Adventure and Skypartol
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>>126913412
He keeps his Rings in the same magical back pocket every single character has; Amy for her hammer, Knuckles for his Emerald shards, Tails for his handy-dandy screwdriver, and so on.

If you explain something that's clearly a gameplay thing - like the monitors containing powerups - you spoil it!
>'gee Sonic how come you literally die if you take longer than 10 minutes to touch that signpost'
>'well you see Tails, i'm allergic to grass and touching the sign triggers the release of the antidote'
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>>126921582

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHqpV08RR8c
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>>126921859
i enjoyed Generations very much, but feel it would have been better framed as a what-if or Rashomon thing, instead of being a literal game of its own with a beginning middle and end
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>>126921859
>Enjoy your future, It's gonna be great!
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>>126922215
That line was so hilarious looking at the big picture.
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>>126904489
Yeah, and I want more. We have far more 2d games, especially 16 and 8 bit ones, and we haven't gotten a full 3D game since Black Knight, and the 2d sections in every game from Unleashed onwards (Again, with Black Knight notwithstanding since it was full 3D) being some of the most boring parts of each game
>>126912283
You're laughing now but you ain't gonna laugh when Sonic Team drops the ball extremely hard because they can't do 2D gameplay for shit anymore
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>>126917576
I honestly don't get why Modern levels in Gens had 2d sections (Or in Planet Wisp's case almost the entire level) when there was already an entire gameplay style dedicated to 2D gameplay
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What were they like when they were kids?
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>>126791367
President Buchanan said the same thing. History proved him wrong.
Fidel Castro said the same thing. I don't think he will be proven correct.
Nothing else matters.
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>>126923838
>President Buchanan said the same thing. History proved him wrong.
And just like Penders, all they ended up doing was ruining everything and being a raging faggot. How fitting
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>>126923364
3D Sonic style gameplay is actualy really hard to do. You will find in every 3D sonic game they try their darnedest to make you play something else because just 3D sonic gameplay would make for a really short game.
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>>126924115
The sad thing is, when you really get down to it, the classics were really short games as well. In all honesty, half the fun of the best games in the series is replaying them over and over again, and the efforts to make the game longer via gimmicks actually hamper the replay value signficantly
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Mystic Cave Zone
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>>126924219
l-lewd
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More Howard Drossin when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-1cP70zy7k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm6eZK6Ktpw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjfNGkf5sLM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sn8T6ajRwY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcPdbvE4GGs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U54gMYunbTk
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>>126924115
Or they could make the levels longer. Or they could make more branching paths to increase replayability, like >>126924209 said. SHtH actually had a good idea in having the multiple objectives and choose-your-own-story concept that would do just that. I really think the "3D gameplay is too short" argument is a weak one when you consider how long the Adventure games, Heroes, and Shadow were.
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Gentlemen, how do we make a Sonic MMO work?
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>>126925690

While I would love a Sonic MMO where I can make my own characters, doing so would mean that no new Sonic game would happen. It would be like what WoW was for Warcraft, and that would be sad.
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>>126925690
Well, we'd probably have to stick to some consistent lore in order to world build enough to have a variety of locales, which would mean it would either have to take place in the comic universe or Iizuka would have to focus.

You can decide which would be easier to pull off.
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>>126925690
we don't, because non-WoW MMOs don't work, ever
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>>126925897
What about PSO2 and MonHun Frontier?
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>>126925789
Not necessarily. Sonic Team could forward development to a another, more specialized studio like Bethesda did with TESO. Of course, it would involve forwarding a lot of time and resources into putting it together, and just wouldn't be all too profitable for SEGA.

Oh what I wouldn't do for an Archie-inspired Sonic MMO...
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>>126926052
aren't based on going fast
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>>126926146
You're right, but TESO isn't the best example. Zenimax owns Bethesda, so it was actually the parent company taking the IP making the game themselves. Which is why barely anyone form Bethesda was involved and most of the upper people at Bethesda aren't too fond of it.
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>an instance full of 30ish super-duper-meta-ironic Coldsteel the Hedgehegs huddled around the obligatory Green Hill Zone loop-de-loop reeeeeeeee-ing that the physics aren't the same as the 16-bit games
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>>126926146

I would join the glorious revolution to remove monarchist scum.
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>that one Guy the Fawkes dude spindashing around a bunch of 16-year-old Deviantartists RP'ing, /yell-ing TROLOLOLOLOLO POOL'S CLOSED FURRIES so he can update the ED article
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>>126926149
Tales Runner and Free Jack?
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>>126926759
I wonder who's behind this post...
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>>126926759
Eggman Empire for life.
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>>126927002

> autocracy

STILL BETTER THAN MONARCHY

>>126926873
>>126927027

Top kek
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>>126926579
>>126926847
>that one guy who RP's as a yellow hedgehog with elongated Pikachu-esque rabbit ears raving about blue arms.
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>>126926873
>>126927027
How many versions of this are running around now?
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>>126928087

A lot, since people edit it to post every point of view they don't like.
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>>126928087
5 or 6 I'd say. I know a "Tails and Sonic should fight because of fanon" one popped up recently, but I forgot to save it
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>>126928223
I've made the template and the majority of them, and I just pick whatever the latest shitposting frenzy was about. The first batch were a bunch of long-term /sthg/ memes.
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How would Lupe react to her husband and daughters being slaughtered?

Would she lost her marbles and go full genocide?
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>>126929008
>Would she lost her marbles and go full genocide?
God I hope so. Also, let's be honest, her husband and the majority of her family were entirely pointless
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>>126929140
> Also, let's be honest, her husband and the majority of her family were entirely pointless

True, but she did enjoy them.

I hope she doesn't have memories before the pendering. It can be downright creepy to think that your children ceased to exist.
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>>126928484
Also realized I haven't put a few up on the booru, so those are there now.

>>126928243
Wasn't one of mine though, so you're out of luck.
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>>126929341
The only people that have Pre-Pendering memories are Eggman (because he in-universe caused it), Naugus, and the Freedom Fighters (from touching Nicole). But the memories also faded/melded with the current universe version of events, so even then they barely have the memories. Mostly Sonic's aware of World's Collide, and everything else is hazy, with the new universe events taking over.
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>>126929341
>I hope she doesn't have memories before the pendering. It can be downright creepy to think that your children ceased to exist.
If she did, we would've known by now. (Even then, that plot point hasn't been relevant for years now)
>True, but she did enjoy them.
On that point, I always forget if Leeta and Lyco were her kids or not
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Discussion ded
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What would you say is the life expectancy of your average Mobian?
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>>126931254
Probably similar to humans. Maybe a little shorter, which would explain why the characters seem more mature for their age relative to humans, apart from the fact that they're cartoons which pretty much never act according to their age.
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>>126925312
That's the problem. Branching paths to increase replayability is what the 2d games did. But its a fall taller order in 3d games. And Adventure, Heroes, and Shadow all of something that isn't Sonic gameplay to pad it out., which is what I referenced earlier.
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>>126932563
Funny enough, Heroes probably did branching paths in 3D games best. If they made the gameplay Sonic-only without the forced padding of the flight and power sections then it would've potentially have been the best 3D Sonic game ever.
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>>126932563
I think Sonic's story in the first Adventure is a decent sized Sonic game. Just slap the Last Story on as the real final boss and you're done. Sometimes Adventure feels a little too long because of it. No one else's stories are as long as Sonic's, but since his is already a good game's length it makes the whole game longer. I'm fine with the other stories in Adventure, but if we're talking about just making a simple 3D Sonic game, then I'd say such a game should be one you can beat in a day or two.
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>>126931789
That makes sense.

Now, what about Shadow? Is he truly "ageless", or does his Black Arms DNA just give him a hell of a long lifespan? Will he forever have the appearance of a teenage hedgehog, or will he mature?
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>>126932563
I have no real stake in this conversation but the branching levels in the 2D games and the branching paths morality system in Shadow are entirely different things.
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>>126933059
Since we don't exactly know how Black Doom's aging worked, it's pretty speculative. Even assuming Black Doom wouldn't die of old age, just getting killed, there's the question of how Gerald utilized Doom's DNA in Shadow. The guy is a cocktail of weird genetic research that just happens to look like a hedgehog. I'd wager on Shadow being long-lived, but he could still eventually die of old-age. But depending on how powerful you think Chaos energy is, even that's questionable. Going with the comics, for example, Pre-Super Genesis Wave Shadow could easily be immortal via Chaos power. The Guardians all lived freakishly long (though average echidnas also had pretty long lifespans), mostly from hanging out with the Master Emerald. And Dimitri survived so long thanks to Chaos energy and Enerjak Replenishing Sports Mixxâ„¢.
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Would you do the down and dirty with a Lupe?
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>>126934404

I would cook and feed her to her children.
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>>126928087
Just for shiggles, how many shitty arguments has this thread seen? Off the bat, I can remember:

-Amadeus did nothing wrong.
-SA1 did not have that "Sonic feel".
-Skelly's style is overblown.
-NuNicole's design sucks and I've been very humble about it.
-Overclocked Nicole is not a super form.
-Tails and Sonic should fight because fanon.

I'm sure I've missed a few.
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>>126923647
Tower looks like he's about to pull some Hamon shit.
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>>126925690
I would rather a Jak MMO
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>>126923647
>Black Death
Wasn't that the name of Black Doom's successor from Shadowfall?
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>>126934825
You should switch that to "Overclocked Nicole is a super form", that way all of those arguments are wrong. It's kinda out of place to have one correct argument in the middle of a bunch of wrong ones.
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>>126932563
I agree that the non-fast padding shit needs to go and stay go, but there is a way to do branching in 3D, as Heroes showed. Same with Shadow, just tweak the objectives so they aren't as cancerous, say beat the stage under a certain time or follow an alternative path.
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>>126934825
>Skelly's style is overblown
Now that's just a fact. Especially if you look at it relative to any other artist that has worked on the comic. Maybe it'd be shitty if it had something to do with the quality rather than just being an observation.
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>>126934825

What defines a shitty argument anon? It's when someone post something that goes against /sthg/ mainstream opinion?
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>>126935107
I was trying to list the statements that, IIRC, started the arguments, right or wrong.
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>>126935569
No, it's an argument that's gneerally poorly thought out and backed up by little to no evidence or one that inspires a lot of shitposting. Or both, as the "Sonic and Tails should fight because fanon/my fanfiction says it would despite there being no canon evidence pointing towards them fighting for reasons that aren't absolutely retarded"
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>>126935696

> poorly thought out

That you think so.

> backed up by little to no evidence

That your disregard.

> one that inspires a lot of shitposting

Any polemic opinion.

Are you retarded?
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>>126935569
It's not so much the opinions on either side as it is the people arguing. With most of these that I remember, it was usually one anon just being incredibly annoying, regardless of whether you agreed with them. Sometimes, both sides were being shitty.

>NuNicole's design sucks and I've been very humble about it.
Is the most obvious. Obviously people are free to dislike Nicole's new design - I'm pretty neutral on both designs personally. But what drove people crazy about this guy is how he kept bringing up how humble he was, as if it had bearing on character design. Also the fact that he was kind of being a pompous dick about being humble, which is always a great combo.
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>>126935812
Of course it's generally subjective, but there are such things as terribly thought out arguments, and that was one of them. and that poster pointed towards either fanon or things that had nothing to do with Sonic or Tails for "good reasons" as to why they should fight. If you're trying to point out why it would make sense in canon for 2 characters who are very close friends to fight, pointing towards fanfiction is not the way to do it, and making shit up about how "Tails would want to surpass Sonic" when that's never been the case and nothing in any material has ever pointed towards that only makes the argument weaker
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>>126935897
>But what drove people crazy about this guy is how he kept bringing up how humble he was, as if it had bearing on character design
And that he kept saying that "It was just his opinion but I'm objectively right because I took a character design class"
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>>126935897
And I did make an Ellidy of this one.

http://img.booru.org/theride//images/2/e81900067ce16e99112c1194b27c856a114903e2.png

Actually, now that I think about it, I believe the /sthg/ cap I used for the main screen was from the Overclocked Nicole argument. I didn't make an edit out of that though because there weren't any particularly amusing arguments to paraphrase; it was just kind of boring back and forth.
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>>126935897

Well, that's a more sensible view. Yes, I agree that people acted pretty bad on those arguments, I just disagree that all those listed are bad by themselves.
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>>126935812
Most of those arguments were caused by people that did one or more of the following:
>contradicted themselves
>had no idea what they were actually talking about
>used circular reasoning
>ad hominem for days instead of an actual argument
>refused to acknowledge that people have different viewpoints on things and were persistent in changing someone's opinion to their's because they didn't like it or thought it was purely wrong/their viewpoint was factually correct
>disregarded precedents already laid down in official works
If you had been here for any of them, the shittiness would have been fairly obvious unless you were the retard that was spouting the shit. I would know because I was one of them and fell into a couple of these categories myself.
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>>126935569
>>126935696
"Shitty" may have been the wrong word, but what I had in mind were cases of two or three anons greentexting each other while inserting variations of "you're delusional/autistic/retarded/should kill yourself, faggot" for hours on end, peppered with other anons telling them to just fuck already. That's the fandom in a nutshell, I guess.
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>>126936704
You hit the nail on the head.
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>>126936704

To be fair then that's not only those, but pretty much the majority of arguments here. Like those shipping wars.

The only exception is Penders, it seems all /sthg/ hate Penders unanimously.
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>>126936979
>Like those shipping wars.
Honestly I don't see those that often. Maybe once in a blue moon actually.
>The only exception is Penders, it seems all /sthg/ hate Penders unanimously.
Pretty much this. And it is fucking glorious
On an unrelated note, what should next thread's theme be? I want to do New Year's, but I don't have a pic for it
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>>126937254

New Years. Some artist must have done something, we just need to find it.
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>>126937254
New Years is most apropos.
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>>126937254
You're right. I actually just found something
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regarding >>126824350
i really wasn't expecting this amount of rage and disappointment towards what will probably be generations 2. isn't generations considered to be the best 3D sonic? it makes me wonder, what would /sthg/s ideal 3D sonic be like? for me the gameplay would be kind of like a less floaty version of skiing in tribes ascend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FBfV55tDQo in levels that are designed like oversized skateparks.

i'd love to hear your opinions on how 3D sonic should play
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>>126937523

Well, some people usually rage.

As for me, I wanted Sonic Heroes 2. It's good having Sonic characters who actually work together and fight equally.
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>>126937523
All I want is full 3D.
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>>126937523
It is one of the best 3D Sonics. But for the past 5 or so years, Sega's been milking nostalgia and frankly, I don't know how other people feel, but I'm sick of it. I'm sick of the absolute safeness of the past few games, I'm sick of the "comedic" stories with no tension or even excitement. I want something fresh, new, exciting. I want the music to be more diverse and focus less on violins or whatever LW focused on and more on guitars. I want a full 3D game. I just want something that'll remind me of why I love this series so damn much.
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>>126937847

Less comedy is fine, as long as we don't return to the grim Sonic Adventure age.
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>>126938110
The Adventure games weren't as grim, edgy, or whatever as people say. The plots were more high risk, but Sonic himself was cracking jokes and what not all the way through. Tone-wise I'd say the first Adventure is probably what they should shoot for, or maybe Heroes but with less "Superpower of Teamwork!" style writing.
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>>126938110
I think SA1 had a good mix of comedy and seriousness. Something like it or the Storybook games would be nice. Just give me something that actually makes me care about the characters and the world. Something that makes it feel more like a fun story and less like everyone involved doesn't want to be there and just wants to go home
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>>126938110
the problem with the writing in the adventure games (or StH or 06) wasn't that it was too dark, the writing was just atrocious. i think sonic would be better with some darker writing as long as it's done well
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>>126938110
>grim Sonic Adventure age
nice meme
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>>126939043
>atrocious

Anon, this is poetry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLpslwNh8I0
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>>126938110
>Sonic Adventure
>dark, grim, or edgy
More like the writing was stupid and the voice direction was dicks. The actual tone was mostly lighthearted with a hearty dosage of righteousness at the finales.
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>>126939639
There really is a unique charm to the cutscenes in the Adventure games
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>>126770608
10/10

I always thought the Sol emeralds were a throwback to the Master System emeralds because they look exactly the same.
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>>126940476
Technically the Chaos Emeralds are diamond-cut, whereas the Sol Emeralds are actually emerald-cut.
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>>126777828
Is there really NOWHERE you can buy a set of 7 chaos emeralds in the right colours? For the longest time I considered buying a bunch of those dollar store ones and dying them the right colours, but it's sad to know we won't get replicas like the dragon ball ones.

I'd buy loads of chinese bootleg chaos emerald replicas.
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>>126779763
beware anon, the stars inside are usually flat pieces of paper inbetween two halves of an acrylic ball on the shitty cheap ones, and 3D stars inside a better moulded piece of acrylic on the more expensive ones, but they look a LOT better close up. Cheap ones sometimes have really obvious seam lines running through them that make them uncomfortable to hold.
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>>126940883
Ebay would be your best bet for getting them all at once, but Ebay sellers know they're marketing to nerds and aren't afraid to jack the price up. Otherwise they make colored diamond glass paperweights in just about every color, including all the Chaos Emerald ones. You just have to track them down.
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>>126790852
>have you seen the house he lives in?

no, what does it look like? I feel like depressing myself.
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>>126941221
He's rich as fuck because his wife makes stupid amounts of money
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>>126820483
Rosie had a lot of mileage, especially since she was essentially just a fucking outright cracked psycho. I mean there's not a lot of pure mentally derranged characters knocking about. And she would serve as a great mirror/antithesis for amy which she sorely needs. Amy needs more actual stories and some shit to do instead of being background candy but I guess we'll get more fucking Silver and Shadow because why not.
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>>126941497
what does his wife do?
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>>126941980
She's getting a Universe arc going after M.E. shards with Knux, don't worry.
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Bump is a
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>>126848616
Sticks.
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>>126943306

Deer.
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>>126848616
Sonic.
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>>126943306
Cutie
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>>126848616
Existing.
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>>126933586
I didn't mean the morality system. The morality system is fine. But a lot of the moral choice things require the player to slow down and actively hunt for collectables. Not always a bad thing, given, since many of the sidequests, like destroying the president's ships with turrets, or destorying the black arms' ships with turrets, or searching for cheese and cream, or just defeating x amount of enemies, were done well.
But the sidequests for the circuit level, for example, were really shitty.
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>>126943306
secret 12th egg boss
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>>126945879
>just defeating x amount of enemies

These were by far the most bullshitty of level objections, and way too many levels used it.
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>>126946019
It would make so many people shit
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>>126946212
The only one I could call bullshit is the Artificial Chaos hunt.
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>>126946242
It'd make us shit, until they found out where she came from. Then there'd be trouble.
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>>126946019
>art of Bump in Eggboss uniform never
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>>126947978
>>126947978
>>126947978
>>
END
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>>126947042
That's going on the wall.
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>>126945879
That's still not the same thing. That's just completing certain objectives in a linear course to proceed down a separate overall path.
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>>126924115
the problem with modern 3D sonic gameplay is that it's too easy and scripted so there's not a lot of room for improvement. if they are going to do bosst2win gameplay they have to take a hint form the fucking leader of the genre (vid related)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRqE-IS-kq8

consistent gameplay, no qte's, never on rails, punishes you for fucking up (but not too much). as long as sonic is boost2win he has too look up to burnout 3
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