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/scg/ Star Citizen General: Community Manager Appreciation Edition

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2.1 Is on PTU

>horribly outdated FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Hr9rYACD

>Arena Commander
who gives a fuck, 2.0 is out
Download: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/download
Manual: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/hwb5x45eghhelr/source/AC-Manual-1-1-V7.pdf
Tweaks & FAQ: http://pastebin.com/QRWNvEVD

>Jump Point Current Issue
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/xtjaptgtro9w0r/source/JumpPoint_03-12_Dec-15_Refining-The-Verse.pdf

>Jump Points
http://pastebin.com/Cd9wQ9YB

>"Holiday 2015 Goyim!"
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15114-MISC-Reliant-Variants
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15123-Holiday-Livestream-Ship-Gallery
Pupil to Planet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yLTm8DZ8s4

>Weeklys
Ten for the Chinaman: https://youtu.be/MHLwAuM1J8c
The Amazing Abent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhzEA15KH8o
Around the Girth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0s3GMSfDko
Reverse the Worst: http://imperialnews.network/2015/12/reverse-verse-episode-74/ (nobody wants to watch that shit)

>>STABILITY CONFIG FILE<<
http://pastebin.com/c6DrAptD
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First for Carrack sexist ship
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>Carrack
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>>126308654
Shit. I mean sexiest.
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wrong thread senpaitachi

>>126308442
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>>126308856
>made late because OP was too stupid to check first
>[embed] [embed] [embed]
>shilling in the first thread
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mfw Gladiator owner
I hope they fix missiles soon.
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Hull-attachable disposable boosters/fueltanks/optional weaponry when.
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If you're expecting a sale to mean discounts you should realize that this is a place where people will drop hundreds on a single ship year round.
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>>126309046
I hope they fix the turret, it's an useless peashooter.
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>>126310145
>posting rollbait to get your thread's post count up
I was going to be the bigger man and delete this thread but now I think it might be better to just let that be a shitpost containment zone
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>>126310194
Only tangentially related, but what's with the turrets (and the tiny weapons attached to them) on single-seater ships? Why are they sacrificing tons of space on a ship for the ability to affix size 1 weapons when another gimballed or fixed weapon slot would accomplish far more?

Is the need of literally every ship to have a turret just Rule of Cool for spaceships?
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I thought this thing was a fast, light little hummingbird? it feels pretty boaty, and with the low threshold for black/redout you can't even take advantage of what maneuverability it might have.
I really hope they up the G tolerances across the board.
one question is though, should they be different depending on the ship? yes it's not realistic, but it would be another tool in balancing maneuverability, and having it the same currently (if it is) doesn't feel even at all anyway.
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>>126311220
vanduul craft appear to be jampacked with glitter and thermite, they always have that big red cloud of glowing dust. far more than any other craft I've seen.
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>>126311220
Does that dashboard being so.. upfront not bother you?
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>>126312173
yes it's actually quite shitty. I tried racing and had no idea what place I was even in the whole time, I can't find anything on it.

I think the real issue is that every other ship has the same one though; learning the ship's unique hud should be something you go through with everything.
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The super hornet is super powerful, but what about the standard hornet? Or the tracker/stealth one?
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>>126312158
That's their shield...
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>>126312982
I'm about the explosion after you kill one. it's a bright red ball of rust
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmoVLEj0TyI

Last freelancer video unless I manage to actually kill something. The guns seem pretty inconsistent/buggy and the missiles don't work yet. It took like 3 minutes to not repair the guns at cry astro

If the next patch fixes anything i'll report back

here are the other two from when the thread 404d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqYWH4AiDio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7hZwIvnf8I
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>Warp in, ambush two unsuspecting ships and destroy them in seconds
https://youtu.be/f_smvE101Co

>Then spend eight minutes trying to shoot down ships that actually fight back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVnBjcBQ6Wk

The Freelancer really does seem like it's intended to be a pirate ship. Anybody slow and/or stupid dies easily, people with basic piloting skills easily counter it. So no wonder the super hornet fags hate it.
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>>126313314
have you noticed the guns don't seem to shoot where the lead indicator is pointing? I had a hornet sitting 300m out for 10 seconds and not a single shot managed to hit him
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>>126313314
Also, random exploding ship:
https://youtu.be/ZipUw5vdiRU
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At the moment I think the best tactic for the freelancer is to roleplay surrendering so people park their ship to steal your cargo then you shoot at them while they are sitting still.
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>>126313510
I've noticed the pips are way the fuck off the screen. But I just blamed that on the shitty tiny ass view and that I'm trying to fly with fixed weapons
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>>126313187
>that random shit appearing outside the window at 00:20
I thought you were about to get quantum entangled with another ship
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>>126313927
if you check the first one I linked you'll see the stupid hornet barely moving at all in relation to me yet not a single shot managed to hit

>>126313984
yeah the reflections are weird
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>>126313187
in several of these I see the ship randomly twist occasionally and face another direction for no obvious reason, was that random shitters ramming you and just bouncing off the hull, or what?
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>>126314193
It happens when you fire, the first one vs conny is the worst example. It's like the weight of the bullets somehow fling the ship to the left or something. I have no idea but it's janky as hell. I struggled shoot the conny driving in a straight line because my ship was flinging itself about randomly.

Overall the experience of flying a freelancer can be summed up with one word: Rushed
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>>126314087
that's no reflection m8. I think you actually did drop out on top of another ship and were just very lucky
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>>126314562
it happens all over the place when you turn there's random blue streaky lines on the glass, i thought that was what you were referring to. You're right that I warped in right ontop of the conny.

if you check the first video at 3:33 there's some sort of ghost turret poking out from the ship. No clue what is going on
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https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15135-Bugsmashers
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>>126315450
allow me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiUC2_uYohw
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>>126316471
thanks i was actually too lazy to copy paste the comlink to find the video
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>>126316471
his eyes are always so red

is he constantly blazing or just worked to depression
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>>126313314
>The Freelancer really does seem like it's intended to be a pirate ship.

Its also extremely unsuspecting. With a fake ship ID any merchants with escort you come across you can just pretend you're another merchant. If you see a juicy target you can drop the ID and swoop in steal everything bug out to an asteroid belt and reestablish your fake ID.
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>>126318068
CIG really fucked themselves by trying to set up dedicated pirate ships, they should have let them fall organically out of they system like the one that inspired the cutlass in the first place. it's one thing to have ships intentionally geared toward something when you build it, but when they established it in the lore they were just setting themselves up for failure
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>>126317051
Didn't they mention that he ended up sleeping under a desk at one point? He's probably having to work absurd hours
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https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/308482/2-1-0c-published-to-ptu

>The weapons and turrets on the Freelancer, Retaliator and Cutlass have been adjusted for better overall role balance.
>Fixed an issue where the Freelancer only had 1/10th of the mass it should possess, which was drastically changing it’s flight performance.

interesting.
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>>126320324
I guess 2.1 isn't being pushed to live then.
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>>126320324
>inb4 Freelancer weapons reduced to 4x S3
>inb4 Freelancer maneuvers even worse due to mass processing

We need new footage of 2.1c.
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>>126320324
Freelance didn't keep the role of best dogfighter for long then
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>>126320324
>freelancer only had 1/10 the mass it's supposed to
Freelancer racers BTFO
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>>126320324
>Fixed an issue where the Freelancer only had 1/10th of the mass it should possess, which was drastically changing it’s flight performance.

LITERALLY loving every laugh
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>>126320324
>Freelancer only had 1/10th of the mass it should possess, which was drastically changing it’s flight performance.
I bet the fucking super hornet is still going nearly as fast as a Gladius though. And the Mustang Delta is still only going 155m/s
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>>126320324
Freelancers on suicide watch
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Ballistic death cannons have been replaced by what looks like Turantula mk 3s on the Lancer.
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>>126321601
You should read the rest of the patch notes

>Fixed an issue with the top SCM speed of the Mustang Delta being 155. It should now correctly be 200.
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>Fixed an issue where the Freelancer only had 1/10th of the mass it should possess, which was drastically changing it’s flight performance.
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>still have to go through 3 billing pages to spend REC
I don't think using my credit card actually takes that long on RSI.
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>>126321770
Hope they still put the S4s on the MIS. It needs something else since missiles are likely going to worthless.
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>>126321770
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>>126321770
Freelancer owners BTFO
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>>126322270
The MIS is a missile boat, not a gunship.
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Cutlass also now has two 11-series broadswords on it's turret.
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>>126322370
Those are S3 guns?
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>>126322370
S U I C I D E W A T C H
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>>126322524
Holy shit, the cutlass is now 5xS3?
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>>126322370
Frankly, im more annoyed about the agility nerf. Even I thought the guns were overpowered.
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>>126322524
What about the Retaliator? I need to know.
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>>126322823
It had S2s right? I would imagine it also got dual S3s like everything else.
Especially since it has fuck all weaponry other than the point defense turrets.
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>>126322943
It had S1s, was supposed to get an upgrade to S2s at some point.
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>>126322370
wow that looks like shit. just on an aesthetic level, against all those smooth curves the guns look like they they should have a shroud that's been ripped off or something.
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>>126319115
What did they expect? They made the largest soloable transport capable of defend itself from ships smaller than itself. So guess what, people are going to stop using small ships to pirate. They'll just grab a bunch of Freelances, Vanguards and other large soloable ships. I was discussing this with the Freelance owners on the forums and they couldn't seem to grasp it.

Yeah and who would fly a bunch of ships that are going to get shot on sight and search by every wannabe space cop.
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>>126322943
hot shit those side thrusters got beefed way the hell up at some point. there's really no justifying those things being so weak at that size
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>all of these hornet niggers rubbing in the salt after they bitched about the competence of the Freelancer for days

The smug will only last so long, you entitled faggots.
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>>126323764
say, are fuel and quantum fuel levels the same across all ships the same right now? I bet they are. and I bet once they get factored to the intended range of ships that hornetbabbies will have to make every second jump one to cry-astro.
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>>126320324
>>126322370

Benosphere Lesnigger strikes again.

>>126323347
>wow that looks like shit

Of course.
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PTU seems to be open for everyone now.
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>TFW Vanguard owner reading the Freelancer patch notes.
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>Find out today that there were both retards that thought the freelancer was a space superiority craft.
>And it was nerfed into the mall cart it actually is.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3y18k0/ptu_200c_changes_ships_fixed_an_issue_where_the/

>Actually I just played a couple matches in AC with the new Freelancer. You guys are going to wreck a lot into the asteroids.

Another useful ship turned into a Cutlass-tier pile of shit.
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>>126324128
I dislike the carebear enabler as much as anyone but I don't really see how he could be at fault here.
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>>126324853

supposedly ben is a big hornet shill, and also a hotas whiner
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>>126324767
At this rate, I expect the Hulls to literally take 20 seconds just to make a 90 degree turn
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>>126325165
yeah that sounds about right. it takes probably that long for a semi on the highway. I'd imagine at full SCM speed they probably handle like the average single seater does in cruise.
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>>126325395
>still forcing this trucker meme

Kill over and die please.
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>>126325587
if we're talking about the Hulls (we are) they are exactly space truckers. in fact the larger two are actually exponentially bigger than any highway truck in comparison to personal craft.
and it's keel over.
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>>126322370
>>126320324


top kek, anon was right.
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>>126324767
I wonder if this means the Connie is more agile than the Freelancer now....

...while still being able to equip 4 of those S4 fuck you cannons that used to be on the Freelancer.
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>>126325165
>He thinks they won't take a while to turn
God damn the average player is in for so many rude surprises. Your only hope for a quick turning ship will be Hull A. You're out of luck on anything bigger thant hat.
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>Freelancer fags even more butt blasted than Avenger fags
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>He bought a Freelancer
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>>126325151

Have they confirmed Demons yet or is it up for Jorgel's still?

>>126325950

Not likely. If you can't confirm tech xip you never got it in the first place. It's actually one of the big reasons for qual phone.
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>he was delusional enough to think that quad S4s and 500m/s in SCM was balanced for a civilian cargo truck
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>instagiibbing
>amazing shields
>quad S4s + 2x S2 turret
>decent cargo space

I knew for a fact this would change. I predicted the inevitable.

>>126326042
kek
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Can someone explain me how Ben 'Big B' Lesnick is a carebear enabler?
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>>126326695
He bans goons and they're mad at him about that
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>>126326752
But nothing about advocating for less PVP and other retarded shit?
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>>126326695
He hates pirates with a passion to the point of making the cutlass worse than literally any other ship at the role it was built for.
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>>126326342
>implying I wasn't also holding on to a Freelancer MIS to Super Hornet CCU token just for this situation.
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>>126326406
Are you alright anon
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>>126326812
Can't gladius/avengers be pirates anyway?
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>>126326812
he invented the concept of drake because he wanted pirates to have viability and legitimacy
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So what exactly makes the Cutlass so suited to piracy? Couldn't you use a Vanguard or some other ship just as effectively for the task?
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>>126327118
The lore says so.

That's literally it.
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Did retards actually think that the freelancer would never receive balancing?
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>>126327118
Combat, cargo, docking ring supposedly.
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>>126327118
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/spectrum-dispatch/13441-Drake-Interplanetary

Apparently it's dirt cheap, so it's not risky at all to engage in PVP with those. Basically economic tradeoff making it worse for other players to fight you and better for you to fight them.
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I just hope I can find non autistic players for crewing ships, especially for bigger ones. I don't want to play on some middle aged project reality asshole's ship
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>>126327118
Stories lol. It also has a docking collar, but so does the Redeemer and the TNGS ships that will be added eventually.

>>126327190
See >>126326042
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Truly this is a great day, freelancer fags were getting as bad as constellation fags were over space superiority
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>>126326663
>instagibbing vanduuls
>vanduuls

Delusional.

>>126326695

Leftists are automatically carebears. That's the way of things. It should be apparent from this image alone.

>>126327190

It didn't just get balanced, it got nerfed. Balanced would be fixing only the agility of the ship. They went the extra mile and killed its guns too.
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>>126327118
Basically you'd want something like the Avenger Titan, but with a seat for a second person, a tractor beam, and a docking collar.
The Vanguard was explicitly designed to waste all of it's interior space so it wouldn't have room for cargo.
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>>126327118
mechanically?
Combat Loadout + Cargo to haul shit you steal + Docking Ring.

No cargo = no loot.
Lots of Fighterbros assume they can load up their hornets in booty.
Lots of non-fighterbros assume fighterbros won't have get-away vans for looting.

People are dum.
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>>126327330

What did the guns get nerfed to?
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>>126327303

You were getting worried about that, huh, Hornigger? It's okay, now Hornet is uncontested once again.
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>>126327330
>>Leftists are automatically carebears. That's the way of things.
Someone's getting the axe tonight.
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>>126327402
The idea of the Cutlass is that you can be a pirate with one ship, and it's kind of cheap, and it can get the job done.

The problem is that solo piracy is gonna be next to impossible anyway, so you might as well just have a hauler and a dedicated fighter.
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>>126327681
I have a Gladius, wouldn't it be better to have a bro with a dedicated supporting ship with some cargo capacity to wing with me?
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>>126327681

They will have fucked up haulers so much by the time release comes, that the only way to conduct piracy will be by flying with an Idris with escorts.
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>>126327330
I really don't understand his attitude there. Women *do* absolutely face unique challenges in some social circles, but guess what? So do men.

It's not your job to protect the poor little weak princesses, fucks sake, there's block and ignore commands, and you don't share your personal info with people you don't know/trust online. This goes for anyone, regardless of genitalia.
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>>126327761
It does seem that way.

Though if the Cutlass continues to get improvements, it might actually wind up being able to do the job.
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>posting on reddit
I've made a terrible mistake
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>people getting mad after buying concepts, from a game in alpha

People should either not be dipshits and stop spending money on something subject to many more changes or don't be surprised if their ship isn't anything like how it was when you bought it during this stage
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>>126327857

He's an enabler. He thinks a historically male medium should now cater to women, because
>it's 2015 guise
>guise it's 2015

Somehow, history stops for the current year.
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>there are people who think pirates are going to want some box of iron ore you're carrying out of many others

fucking what. People will be carrying so much uninteresting shit that trying to profit off of those rare cargo holds that have shipments of something worth anything on the black market will be impossible. Also, certain cargo boxes are simply too large to physically fit inside of the freelancer, which is basically Hull B and up. To profit, you're gonna need to steal ships and sell them on the black market or whatever.

Did some of you to-be pirates seriously think that you would make any kind of living just trying to run into that lucky jackpot?
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>>126327514
S4's to S3's

That's a huge cut in firepower, because they were bullying hornetniggers and the hornet must always be the best fighter so total shitters aren't destroyed like they should be
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>>126328431
Yeah. I'd hold off on melting your Lancers just now, folks.
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>>126328076
Reading the SC subreddit makes me physically sick. It's like the Sychophant Olympics over there, where everyone is competing to prove that they're the most positive about every new piece of bullshit that CIG has decided to feed them.
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>>126327857

Funny thing is by coddling women he's going to do the opposite of helping them come to equal social stature as men
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>>126328076
I fixed it and underlined the only parts needed to be read
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>>126328521
Pirates will fly shitter's hornets, disable transports and then board them to capture the ship+load

Or keep their own HULLs to collect cargo from a mostly destroyed transport (by shitter's hornets, of course)
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>>126328521

Yeah, that's my idea of pirating. You steal the ship and you either get a mediocre but still sellable cargo haul, or you also get a rare haul with the ship. If you don't get either, you can still get an entire ship
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>>126328525
>implying the Freelancer wouldn't have become meta.

CIG did Freelancer owners a favor.
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>>126328770
Assuming that there's some way to force boarding of a freighter in motion, then yeah. It's going to be all about the star marine shit.
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>>126328741

Shitter Hornet Online


Well, if it ends up that way, it's the future they chose.
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>>126328525

Isn't that only temporary?
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>>126329020
whose to say that FL33s wont be S3?
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>>126328741
You seem to have some hatred for SHs and I didn't even mention them. Angry about something, friendo?

>>126328770
Glad you don't think that way. Do you have a cutlass? I don't think something so thin skinned would be feasible for trying to capture enemies.

>>126328864
Good point. How the fuck does one stop a moving ship to board it?
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>>126329020
>standards of other weapons
So worse than what a hornet fits.

Plus, FL-33 sure sounds like a S3 gun's name.

I don't buy it, if they need a temp, the Connie has the same size slots, so the two ships should have same pilot firepower.

Connie still has better firing arcs, extra turret, more cargo, and a snubfighter. Plenty of advantages over a FL
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>>126329316
>standards of other weapons

He probably graphically and fidelity.
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>All this buttmad over spaceships

I'd even take orgposting over this current display of autism.
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>>126329316
>>126328921
>>126328741
>>126328525

Holy shit this is good. Hornets are now boogeymen. You guys cry HORNETS at every opportunity to justify your sadness because of an obviously broken vehicle. You guys use HORNETS to justify sadness from any balance pass that doesn't create something that can flat out annihilate hornets.

Please cry more.
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>>126327253
Making it dirt cheap does make sense, just like how in eve people gank with cheap ships.

if you got a expensive ship, and still go pirating your just asking for trouble.
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>>126329316
Yes, but everyone expected the Connie to be a OP mary sue ship, while they expected the Freelancer to be a underpowered, clumsy loot piñata.
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>>126329851
This is /scg/. Everything is a boogeyman.

I swear half the people here are schizos.
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>>126327253
>>126329903
Yeah, it's dirt cheap and presumably easily replaceable. But your lives and time are not. Why in the ever loving fuck would you want to be in a ship like that?
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>>126330367
wut?
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>>126330367
The 7A thing is just a body mod kit that changes the paint job and adds bit of armor. They've said the hornet will actually fly worse with it applied.
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Is this game CPU intensive? I have a 780ti but also an i7-2600 (not K), and I'm getting 25 FPS on very high.
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How terrible of a pilot did I just kill when I beat him with an Aurora LN (no missiles) in his Avenger?
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>>126331215

What about offline? I get ~25 online stuff, 50-60 offline with 980. Right now servers are causing low online fps
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>>126331215
980 here. 50~ in the hangar, 43 in the port and 28 while piloting a Constellation. I'm still using a i5-2500k though.
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>>126331243
If it was the EMP Avenger, I'd say you were the favorite.
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Hornet Boogeyman aside... I will take great pleasure when the vanguard and sabre become flyable. They won't be able use the price, utility, or dedicated fighter excuses for once.
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>>126331367
What do you mean offline? Like in the hangar? In the hangar I hit ~50 no problem. In fact, in the city I get about ~50 as well, but as soon as I load the Port and fly around it drops hard.
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Not too worried about the Freelancer changes. I was pretty sure the handling was a bug. Maybe not 1/10 the appropriate mass kind of bug, but it should be fine tuned later.

The guns being shrunk caused caused a little more [CONCERN]. I assume the FL33s wouldn't be as high an alpha as the S4 Berhing ballistics, but I doubt tarantulas are the appropriate temporary replacement.

Anyone get a chance to check the new top speed of the Freelancer?
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2.1 WHEN
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Wasn't the Vanguard supposed to be flyable in 2.1?
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>>126332808

When Haruhi costs less than $100 on Blu Ray.
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>>126332692
220m/s, 355m/s with burners

The new guns on it are not Tarantulas, they're some upgunned size 3 shit. They hit pretty fucking hard, still.
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>>126333450
there are 2 tarantulas.
S2 and S3 versions, m8
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>>126333212
No
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>>126332808
pretty sure the PTU is open to all m8, you just gotta get on it
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>>126332692
Rough speed estimates from memory:
220m/s SCM
335 afterburner
1035 cruise

Agility isn't too horrible. Using afterburner literally uses the entire boost tank, just activating ab makes half the tank go poof instantly, then rest goes before you hit max speed.

The worse change is the acelleration/deceleration... It crawls to speed. Takes forever to change speeds. Hitting max cruise takes forever. And God help you if you over shoot something. Youll be a thousand clicks away before you can even cancel your forward momentum.
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>flip-up mfd console.
das comfy yo
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>>126328612
my exact thoughts on the issue right here. They need to be welcome, not protected, coddled, blah blah, but that's not a change you can force
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>>126334638
I wonder if it will have a holo ball or the neon green 2d radar the other aegis ships have.
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letter from chinaman:

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15138-Letter-From-The-Chairman
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>>126336108
>oing forward we will be changing our patch release strategy to be less feature driven and more date driven.
>date driven
rrrrrrr
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>>126335521
I hope to god 2D.
That classic radar is 11/10 functionality and aesthetic.

And I'm not sure if it's just me, but did they move back those front wing surfaces? Sabre looks a tad sleeker now.
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>>126336752
Once you get used to the 2d one it really is the best.
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>>126336108
Ayyy
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>>126336917
I might like the 2d one if it was in a different color, green on black feels so fucking low tech.
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>>126311220
There will be both equipment(G-suits) and chems(legal and Illicit) that increase your G tolerence in game.
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>>126337226

Really hope they add some j/o chems
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To those in PTU: did 2.1 help with performance at all?
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>>126337378
Not really
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>>126337171
CIG mentioned they want to allow you to change the hud color. Practically speaking military still uses green because the human eye picks it up easier. This allows pilots to dim huds and controls really low at night so not to ruin natural night vision.
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that OP config does not do fuck all for me. the crashes don't appear to be tied to anything. I hopped on another machine far more powerful than mine and CTD'd five feet out of my Olisar bunk.
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>>126337685
Most people need to customize it to their computers. Also if your not running a processor with hyperthreading you're kinda boned for now till they get other processors optimized.
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>>126338045
If you bought a processor in the last 13 years, it uses hyperthreading.
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>>126326094

Anyone been able to confirm or deny this?
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>>126338264
No, it doesn't. You're retarded. Only desktop Core i7s and i3s and mobile Core i5s as well as Pentium 4s use hyperthreading.
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>>126337378
no crashes but much much much much much much much much more FPS chugs (i'm on a OC'd i7 4790K + 980gtx, so this is something I've not even experienced until now)
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>>126338761
So literally 95% of all intel CPUs and 100% of all AMD CPUs.

Thanks. I think I got it.
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>>126338941
lawl epig trol XD
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>>126338941
A lot of people still use i5 processors.
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Why the fuck is the Voyager Direct store so unorganized? Are there any weapons even worth buying from it?
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do the Covalex journal entries work for anyone else? for me they're all nothing but obvious placeholder text like 'CharlieStationLog3', with the sole exception of the completion ones. I saved the day and I don't actually know how or why. Audio logs did work though
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>>126339996
They worked at some point but mine have been busted for a while.
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>>126338761
>hyperthreading on mobile i5
>not on desktop
what the cunt? I use an i5. this is pure balls. how is that not a big red sticker on the box? why did my weeks of research before buying and building not tell me this?
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>>126340092
yeah, got that one and the one before it. all others are borked. glad to know it's not just me I guess.
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>>126339778
Maybe the missile racks for the 300i/315p if you're really sure you're never switching ships. Anything else is too subject to changes to waste real money on yet.

I wish they'd add more types of missile racks, and the ball turret and hornet cargo box.
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>>126340126
Mobile i3 = Dualcore
Desktop i3 = Dualcore with HT
Mobile i5 = Dualcore with HT
Desktop i5 = Quadcore
Mobile i7 = Quadcore with HT
Desktop i7 = Quadcore with HT
Has always been this way.
>why did my weeks of research before buying and building not tell me this?
Because your research was shit.
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>>126340421
I probably just decided quadcore was more valuable to me than HT
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>>126340519
Obviously it fucking is. Hyperthreading is often even detrimental for games.
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are the shakes still a constant feature of pretty much every ship in 2.1?
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>>126340874

Always assumed this was pilot immersion. Who wouldn't be jacking it alone in their ship?
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>>126340874
yeah. the ships still vibrate a bit.
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>>126341074
looks pretty stable to me
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>>126340126
>why did my weeks of research before buying and building not tell me this?

In your defense most websites and forums recommend cheaper i5 processors for gaming desktops. The reason is only a handful of games are processor intensive and even fewer use hyperthreading. Hell most only use one core which is why the number one recommended processors are overclocked quad cores.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3y20oc/the_chills_are_strong/

>wat

This is so silly. Though it would be nice to actually jizz over a video game again
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>UEE War Bond
>someday, when this cruel war with the Vanduul comes to an end, we’ll give you the option to redeem it for credits!
Wow it's fucking nothing.
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>>126331162
But that's completely false. They have said that it will change the look, signature and handling, not that it will 'fly worse'.
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Good game.
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How do you change a locked ship signature from friendly to enemy?
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>fly to the security station so I can get a gun
>notice two other ships already there
>Aw yeah, time for some tense cat-and-mouse
>land my ship
>press F to open the door
>my guy crawls into his bed
>Wait, what? That's not what I fucking wanted
>can't get out
>can't look around
>hear a door open
>That better not be my fucking ship
>it is
>I still can't move
>"landing gear retracted"
>I can only watch from the tiny window as I was cucked of my ship
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>>126336752
>sabre got her concept liverly back
ayy
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>>126337378
It's very stable (no crashes yet) but FPS is fuckin awful.
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>>126343279
>>126338780
Isn't that the exact opposite of what it's supposed to do?
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>>126343040
>fly to the security station so I can get a gun
you start with a handgun, you know.
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>>126343447
at least it's stable-ish?
progress is progress I guess.
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>>126343242
Hate how the fucking wing guns protrude now. The recessed guns were the best part.
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>>126343573
I know, but I wanted a rifle
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>>126309353

This for gods sake, please.

I need my armor pak
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>>126336752
>move back those front wing surfaces
no but something looks different for sure
maybe its just the more flattering livery
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>game isn't vaporware

wew lad
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>>126343040
I lol'd, hard

It't ctrl+f to get out of the bed btw, same as the cockpit
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>>126329316
Jesus fuck the butthurt is real, this is amazing.

Congrats for being the #1 source of entertainment on /scg/.
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>>126342603
What do you think handling is.
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>>126344454
The way it man handles your sweet ass on a long flight
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>>126344171
I still think it would look better without the wings. It would almost look like an advanced version of the avenger that way.
>>
>be me, generic spacebro
>wake up at port olisar
>spawn my connie, ride elevator inside
>fall through the floor when I try to step off elevator
>my legs are now fucked up and I can't walk
>respawn ship, anon comes with and gets in a turret
>jump to kareah, commit casual homicide, park
>try to open the door to the cargo bay so i can exit out the side doors. get in bunk instead, apparently my character wants to jack it
try again, get really close to the door
>game crashes when I hit the button

A good time was had by all. Maybe someone will come pick you up at Kareah, anon turretbro who made no difference whatsoever against that avenger.
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>>126342709
>he started with the tutorial
an easy mistake to make I suppose. I'm impressed you made it out of the hangar. I barely did, last time I tried it. everything was completely fucked and the progression triggers were all broken.
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>>126311220
merlin was always much better at accelerating forward. It can circle strafe like crazy if you 'orbit' around someone

I think the g-limits are too low now because people bitched on the forums. They should have just raised the power consumption of thrusters instead. Now you'll black out long before your power plant matters at all.

also I liked the g-indicator. I hope they put it back somewhere
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>>126345269
I heard "match my speed" about 400 times. It's very glitchy.
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>>126345398
what kind of colossal fucktards would complain about the G limit being too HIGH? what would that even be a solution to? people outmaneuvering them?
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holy shit
Gladius flies properly again.
She's got her engines back.
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>>126308778
>>126308654
yes
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>>126345506
yeah
>muh DCS, I'm a pro pilot and this game should play like Flight Simulator X.

like people can't handle 10 g's in a thousand years...

the g-effects are actually pretty cool when gsafe works and keeps you right on the edge of blacking out. It feels really intense.

>>126340874
it's even worse when you hold the look left/right/up/down buttons on joystick.
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>>126344171

Wasn't everyone upset about the new stubby cockpit? It looks like they changed it back
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>>126346226
How much do you guys think the Carrack will change in shape/size?
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about the freelancer cockpit 'issues'...

>mouseniggers upset that a multicrew ship actually looks like a multicrew spaceship

the freelancer interior looks great and the 3rd and 4th seats actually fit really well. Playing multicrew with VOIP and hopefully seeing actual stuff on their displays as well will be really cool

also I really like how there is a central display that's shared by the first two seats
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>>126345042
That honestly wouldn't look too bad, but there would have to be some changes.
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>>126346587
>tfw your org leader is a girl
>>
>Dream game is finally becoming real
>A game where you can crew a ship with your buddies and explore space
>Everyone shoots people on sight

Imagine how fun this would be if we actually tried to work together and form crews with people instead of killing everyone on sight.

I hate how ever online game with open coop defaults to shooting on sight. Open pvp would be more fun if it wasn't the expected interaction with another player.

I don't mind being attacked by other players, I just don't like it being the only thing you do with other players.
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>>126346715
Imagine if the game was actually finished and it wasn't in an entirely consequence free alpha where everyone rightfully fucks around because there's nothing significant to do or work towards
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>>126346715
it's pre pre pre alpha and they haven't even started making the legal / police system yet
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>>126346794
>>126346812


In the full game people will get punished by game mechanics for attacking you.

I was just lamenting that it would be nice if the default behavior of people playing online games wasn't "fuck everyone I see over"
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>>126346715
>>126346863
>Being a moralfaggot

>>>/reddit/
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>>126347095
I'm not in bat thing's group.

I'm in a 4chan org. Not naming it since I don't want to start a shitstorm.
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Eghh, trying to test this at below 30fps is too painful
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>>126346919
I think he just wants it to mimic some aspects of reality. Not everyone would be a suicidal serial killer. People do want this to be a "sim" after all.
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>>126346863
I haven't gotten attacked by a player yet besides on foot in the security post senpai
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>>126347207
Your furry, autist, or weeb leader isn't a girl either, anon.
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>>126347370
true but it's because you instantly respawn and get a new ship in 2.0. In the real game it would be dumb to risk wrecking your ship without a way to make profit
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>>126347513
scoopsan is a girl
what else would bring a group of weebtards together in an org
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>>126346304
>right on the edge of blacking out. It feels really intense.
I never fly with gsafe but just rolling the ship to whichever side can take the heat off usually allows me to stay on the edge for quite a while, I love it.
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>>126347507
Security post seems pvp central. Anytime I land my ship gets destroyed and I'm stranded there while someone hunts me down on the station.

But then more people come to help me and it turns into a battle royal cus nobody knows who anyone is.
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>>126348048
>landing your ship
Asking for it

Park it in the shadows and EVA
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>>126346715
I've had plenty of people join me on adventures, even when I didn't want the faggots to. they just piled into my ship and jumped in the turrets.
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>>126347513
Who are the leaders of Ved, Kong and KWA anyway?
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>>126348103
Yeah, now I know better. But causing a massive shitstorm is way more fun
>>
>>126347816
I can confirm that Scoop is a girl. I've seen her tits.
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>>126348513
what a slut
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When you buy a ship, you should be shown to an elevator that takes you into the shipyard's docking bay.
>Board new ship.
>Character audibly takes a deep breath of new ship smell.
>Input command codes.
>Take seat for the first time
>Press F to peel plastic film off MFD display windows
>F42 records all sorts of peeling/stretching sounds.
>Character slowly peels with all that satisfaction
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>>126347951
haruko is real
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>>126348687
I don't think I could even handle that much fidelity
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>>126348687
cig pls
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>>126348767
>>126348789
D-dont you want space comfy, anons?
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>>126348840
>space
>comfy
No thanks.
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>>126348687
>ship jerks to a stop abruptly the first few times you slow down; you're not used to the fresh brakes yet
>character occasionally reaches for the stick where it used to be in your previous ship
>dialog recorded so that the very first time some minor damage happens to your exterior your character yells out "are you FUCKING kidding me!?"
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>>126349218
>character occasionally reaches for the stick where it used to be in your previous ship
Fidelity/10
You've got the right ideas anon.
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>>126347816
>>126348513
>girl
There are no chicks with dicks, anons. Just guys with tits.
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>early game will be awful because only Mustang pilots are going to see it, most have bought their way past it
>>
So have we figured out what they changed about the sabre yet
>>
>>126350090
>jackasses trying to do early quests in Idrii in starter systems
dis gun b gud
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>>126350135
nothing at all, its just a camera angles thing, i had 2 near identical screenshots of 2.1a and the latest one and they are definitely the exact same

that ship has a serious "get my good side" vibe going on
>>
>>126350090
>>Early Game
>>Early
>>Game

This isn't wow shitlord, at no point are you level one. It'll be more like Planetside, where a rank 100 player has the same stats as a rank 1 and the rank 1 is fully capable of killing him, his advantages area wider variety of tools and knowledge of how to apply them. A shitter in a superhornet is still a shitter, as evidenced by all the superhornets who die spamming flares when I shove a Stalker 5 up their asses.
>>
>haven't paid attention to any of the shovelships they slapped together for sales
>they're all gonna start coming online around the same time
>there will be a good month where I go "what the fuck is that" in AC as sabres, vanguards, reliants and whatever other bullshit makes it's debut

>>126350587
I'm sure he knows how to work the hips without flailing around. anyway after ten hours of coding and trying not to kill ben he probably just flops down on the bed and tells her it's her turn to get to work.
>>
>>126350668
>the rank 1 is fully capable of killing him
So why do you have that Stalker 5?
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>>126350852
>How do you think Ben and Alixis fuck? Can they fuck?
>>
Oi

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15126-Holiday-Ship-Sale
>>
>>126350880
Because I'm flying a Gladiator, which falls into the "wider variety of tools" category.

There is no leveling up in Star Citizen, and you can in fact kill a Superhornet in a Aurora ES if you are good and he is not.
>>
>fat shaming

You should know better than this, /scg/.
>>
>>126351068
Fuck off, Derek.
>>
So, a friend got me the Starter Package.
How do I start with this game? Any tips for newfags?
>>
>>126351142
>game

There is no game. Yet.
>>
>>126351142
you are in for a world of confusion my friend. downloaded it yet? your safest bet is to start up AC via the Electronic Access on the main menu and get some practice and familiarity in a controlled environment. after that you might consider the tutorial; it does have good info but atm it's broken as fuck. Olisar is the open world where people with nicer ships kill you over and over.
>>
>>126351239
Huh.

>>126351289
>where people with nicer ships kill you over and over.
I'm already liking it.
>>
>they removed the murderbuggies I heard so much about from ArcCorp
I feel like I missed a grand if short era in this game's history, like arriving in Rhodesia right after they changed the name to Zimbabwe
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>>126309353
that's too cool for star citizen

here have some more badly designed purpose built ships
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>>126350197

The cockpit definitely looks longer
>>
>>126351453
the single most important thing you can do as a newb is Read
The
Fucking
Manual

there are dozens of ship systems and subsystems and basic functions that will be a mystery to you unless you study the handy keymap in the pause menu. plenty of them will remain a mystery even then. this game will hold your hand about as much as a NES RPG.
>>
>>126334638
>console flips up

that's just asking to rip your legs off should the need to eject ever arise
>>
>>126309353
>spaceplanes are ok when japan does it

>>126351674
now I want that console floating in pieces nearby and red leg indicators to accompany the eject sequence of that ship
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>Hey Chris, think we should give something to our backers for giving us $102mil and allowing you to create your dream game?
>FUCK THAT NOISE, THANKS IS GONNA BE ENOUGH!
>>
>>126351772

You're one of those faggots that posted threads in General Chat begging for more stretch goal rewards, aren't you?
>>
>>126351772
you got a cool flair item / in-universe war bond you crybaby

you already bought the game and the money goes to making the game. What is so complicated
>>
>>126351772
they gave out so much shit with the stretch goals they literally ran out of ideas and had to stop. they realized they were actually at the point of detrimenting future game balance with all the shit they were making public property. Thanks is plenty.
>>
>>126351641
I'm getting all pumped up, Anon. Can't wait for the download to finish.
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>>126351981

Knowing how other threads of similar nature have gone, probably Page 1.
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>>126351824
>>126351876
>thinking I'm talking about retarded stretch goals
Though honestly I wouldn't mind more ship ads. Those are the only thing CIG are good at.
>>126351843
>muh flail
How about something that is actually useful? Here's a picture of a medal for you, do you feel happy for getting it?
Shit, I'll take $10 worth of RSI monopoly bucks over some digital plaque.
>lore
>SC
lol
>>
>>126352085
>Admiral Dog back from probation
Really feels like christmas now
>>
>>126352093

Can I have one that says smartest idiot instead?
>>
Picked up a warlock.
Pretty fun, glad it doesn't have an interior and you climb into the cockpit.

While cool, EMP seems totally useless.
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>>126351002
>Vanguard included in the sales list
>No option to buy the damn thing

I just want my space P-38
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>>126352093
another ship ad would be great. but what can they make it for? every fucking thing they make recently is military. the reliant I guess, but man, idk what direction they could even go with that. the midwest murican Ford style established by the FL ad, trying to sell something as bizarre and alien as the B wing ripoff? I can't see it.
Maybe an ad directed at the Banu in an obvious homage to over the top japanese commercials, with jewrunes all over the screen and a fucked up garbled voice speaking alien nonsense at an extremely fast rate
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>>126352604
Don't think so, sport, you get what you get. Just like with vanduul bond.
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>>126352743
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>>126352739
I'm guessing you have to wait a bit
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>>126352739
CCUs are availible though. Just get something else and upgrade it.
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>>126352739
>buy any ship
>upgrade to vanguard

#wow #whoa
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>>126352739

I can upgrade my sabre to it


The question is should i
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>>126352743
>reliant add
>starts with petals of sakura falling from the tree
>visuals of MISC factory folding Xi'an steel a mirrion times to create ship plating
>[muffled *dun dun* Yooooo~ in the distance]
>MISUKU. BUIRUDO FO RAIFU
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>>126352885
10/10 would fly misc forever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1wcuoxs4mU
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Can the archimedes warp?

Would make a decent starter ship
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>>126353048
no
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I just upgraded my phoenix LTI to a carrack, /scg/. I just thought you'd like to know.
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>>126353194
I just bought the alien pack
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>>126352885
>yfw we already have MISC and they still felt the need to put in another nippon brand https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/spectrum-dispatch/14343-Sakura-Sun
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>>126353194
The carrackfu posting me is pushing me to upgrade my Aquila, I really want to wait until they show exploration stuff though. We'll see if I can make it the next few days
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>>126352648
you know what you should do anon, is go warp into Kareah, and just chill maybe 4km away from the station. everybody goes there straight from Olisar, and everybody overshoots. if you can find the right spot to zap people coming in on cruise you might be able to send them slapping against the station at 1000+m/s, or at the very least careening kilometers out into space beyond before they can recover.
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>>126352880

/scg/ pls give me opinions

Are either of these likely to be flyable any time soon, should I even bother upgrading to the vanguard
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>>126353270
Upgraded my Harbinger to a Crucible and picked up a Warden->Harbinger CCU
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>>126353283
>Japan's only allowed to have one company. A second company that makes completely different things is too much
Punch yourself in the face until you become less dumb
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>>126353330
That sounds absolutely hilarious.
If I ever get into an instance that isn't running at 10 fps I will try it.
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>>126352885
>>126352743
this is going in a folder somewhere, if we don't get an ad for the reliant I am damn well making this one when it becomes flyable
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>>126353283
Sakura Sun guns when? I want my pink/purple lasers.
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>>126353410
Screencapping this post so I can call your shit
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>>126353371
>Japan's only allowed to have one company
It's part of the treaty after WW2. 2 more bombs for every new company.
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>>126353408
Wait, Ben's not Asian?
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>>126353481
>Africans
Best not be talking shit about Assegai son
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>>126353538
Only white pigs can get that fat.
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>>126353283
>>126353371
MISC isn't even a japanese partnership, it's xi'an. they're chinese at best
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>>126353586
He's an Asian-identifying transplanet, shitlord.
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>>126353579
The Xi'an are Chinese, but MISC is obviously Japanese, the M stands for Musashi for fuck's sake, and then there's the Reliant variant names
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>no spaghetti company
>no baguette company
>no tacos company
>no gulaš company
Are there any country related company you would like to see in SC?
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>>126353672
kebab
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>>126353672
>no tacos company
CGBot :^)
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>>126353662
...I totally forgot about that, what the fuck is wrong with me

I got myself confused by /scg/'s insistence in turning the banu into jap weebs of the worst sort despite clearly being space jews
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Dumb question, is in production further along in the development process than in concept, stat balancing?
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Does stealth actually do anything in game currently? Just make you harder to lock onto or what
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>>126353893
Stat balancing is low priority if that's what you mean.

I think bug-squashing and feature building are going to be the focus for quite a while, this is just a testing phase.
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>>126353963
It just makes you hard.
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>russian company from far future uses USSR logos and coloring
I bet there's communism and snow in Moscow LZ too. gg no re Chris
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>>126354071

I'm more wondering of the two which is more likely to come out first
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>>126354107
>talking about LZ
it just reminded me that a fourth LZ was used as a stretch goal, we never found out what that one was didn't we
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>>126353893
concept is the very first stage, in production could mean anything but at the very least it means they're actively working on it, either in engine or on paper. concept can mean it doesn't even have a sketch of what it should look like yet, just an idea of a role it would fill.
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>>126353672
Do we have a Kraut company?
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>>126308654
>>126308778
>>126346226
>>126346389

Into the darkness we roam senpai.
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>>126354330
Kruger Intergalactic
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>>126348175
>leader of kong
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>>126352085
>he's got his referral code in his signature
it's like he spends time thinking about how to be as insufferable as possible
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>>126354362
Thanks anon, I forgot about them.

Every time I see the terrible "German" equipment names I die a little more inside
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>>126322370
>Fixed an issue where the Freelancer only had 1/10th of the mass it should possess, which was drastically changing it’s flight performance.
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>>126354406
>>126354362
>>126354107
>900 years in the future
>the stigmas of the soviet union, NSDAP, etc have been long in their grave
>earth nations struggling to maintain an identity on a thoroughly globalized world among many others reach back into their own history for cultural cues unique to them
>companies and governments capitalize on the iconography of ancient empires that once ruled the soil from which they hail
it's not so unlikely. the roman empire was responsible for some pretty heinous shit and was surely hated by many under it's yoke at the time, yet it is remembered fondly today and throughout Rome you can find statues of bitterly hated despots, tourist paraphernalia bearing SPQR, even city workers dressed as legionaries for photo ops.
we've already stretched the last huge atrocities beyond their emotional value; the youngest generation doesn't care about them even today and will wave their flags because they look cool.
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>>126354107

>five pointed star and laurel wreath

>communism

Congratulations your knowledge of iconography only extends to the last 100 years.
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>>126354406
now that they have an actual german office and team perhaps they will get some cleanup in that regard.
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>>126354736
>the stigmas of the soviet union, NSDAP, etc have been long in their grave

This is CIG's space game you're talking about.

"Problematic" things aren't allowed.
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america company best company desu
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>>126354770
>laurel wreath
If you wanna act all condescending, at least get your facts right, smarty pants.
It's rye.
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>>126354869

I guess the next thing you're going to tell me is that this is rye too.
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>>126354520
funniest patch notes ever

thanks CIG

carry that weight, hauler non-combatant cucks
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>>126354925
You're really not that smart, eh?
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>>126354971

Speaks measures to your intelligence that the best thing you can come up with is "ur dum lol"
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>>126355067
I'm sorry you're so retarded you think rye and laurel looks the same. This is the last (You) for (You).
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>>126354805
I think one of the writers actually replied after Germans complained. Something along the lines of 'language has evolved in the 900 years leading up to SC'.
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>>126354812
Ben can't touch the lore. He had his moments but ever since the diabetes went to his brain and he came up with wonders like "original systems" and "Electronic Access" he's been out of that loop.

Haddock is clearly not interested in dancing around the issues that make faggots complain and the world's history carries some pretty stark implications; Messer's empire is today decried as some horrible dictatorship and in many ways it was, but it was also an economic powerhouse thanks to his policies, and in their desperation to reverse the damage they've gone too far in the other direction, destroying the empire's solvency in the process. If Messer was Hitler, the UEE could easily be taken as Merkel's CDU. He's thrown plenty of sly references in and set up extrapolations of the same sort for those who care to read it and find them.

I look forward to the world he helps build.
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>it's a /vg/ argue about who is smartest and refuse to admit they were wrong episode
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>>126355136
funny how english hasn't, lel.
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>>126355117

I'm sorry that you're too retarded to notice that the OKB Voskhod logo has just as much in common with fucking -pea pods- as it has in common with rye or laurels. Stay retarded though, since your entire argument about rye is a red herring and you refuse to accept the fact that the Soviets didn't invent wreath iconography. Promptly kill yourself if you wish to improve the human gene pool.
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>>126355067
>>126355117
You're both fucking autistic.
Stop arguing about fucking rye and laurels
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>>126355301
Fuck off back to reddit, goon.
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Any idea how long this sale will last?I can't decide on upgrading and I'm just going to put it off for as long as i can
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>>126355373
>For the next five days (through December 28th) we are unlocking the previous ‘Weapons Free!’ sale to give everyone one last change to pick up limited ships and packages at the old rate.

I don't know anon, it's impossible to figure out how long it lasts.
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>>126355373
It's mentioned on fucking sale page.
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>>126354359
Yes. It is time.
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>>126355457
>>126355430

Thanks.
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>>126355472
Noice. Shekel that shit out in Euro before VAT jews kick in.

>feelin comfy
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>>126354359
>>126355472
how irate are you fags gonna be when you all bump into each other in the furthest reaches of space, where you thought no man had been before?
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>>126355567
>space will be small

Jumppoints are going to generate random exits to unknown systems, besides the permenant exit to known ones.

also
>planetary landing
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Why do some ships have a lot of smaller shields instead of one big one?
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Carrack is not bad for the shekel amount desu senpai.

default kit
>rover
>advanced snubfighter
>medbay
>repairbay
>drones
>ubertech scanners
>VFG hangar

A very very nice ship to LTI.
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>>126355717
they refactored all the components into small, medium, heavy, and capital class

most ships will have multiple light or medium shield generators

no more 'size x' shield
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>>126354736
>throughout Rome you can find statues of bitterly hated despots
>Cincinnatus
Some of them were pretty cool.
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>>126355654
>Jumppoints are going to generate random exits to unknown systems, besides the permenant exit to known ones.
you're gonna need to cite that one because a) it sounds like bullshit, and b) it doesn't even make any damn sense.
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>>126355770
>upgrading a ship for an unfinished game that isn't flyable and you could earn for free by playing the game anyway

what a steal

how much is it discounted in the current sale?
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>>126355889
good luck grinding that shit.
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>>126355889
>sale
>discount
Anon...
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>>126355920
I like how more and more people each day drop "it's not P2W" act.
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>>126356008
Obviously it's going to take time to get a large ship, but it's attainable.
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>>126356008
How do you win in an open world without clear winning conditions? I'd prefer the term "pay 2 not grind" but it doesn't sound as good.

What are you supposed to win with the 890 jump or the Orion?
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post yfw you are exploring the unknown in your carrack, and some uppity endeavour nose section tries to muscle in on your exploration efforts

double points for an aquila trying to land on anything but salt flats without tipping over and breaking its engines/nose


carrack stilt legs master race
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>>126356108
Well good luck with that, in the meantime I'll be winning and getting money for top tier equipment that will pop the cap you worked to hard to get like it's an aurora.
>>126356231
>How do you win in an open world without clear winning conditions?
By venting your poorfag ass in outer space, babe.
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Retaliator has dual S2 turrets now. Comes with Badger Repeaters.
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>>126356008
It is not p2w, but it is p2w.
Currently its an abomination.

We will see how they implement the economy. Its not going to be fully player driven like Eve, so current medium/large ships will not (supposedly) drop in value too much, like they did in Eve.

On the other hand yeah, one can buy a ship now which will most likely need faction/credit grind ingame..on one hand you are throwing money to an unreleased product. still backing the project and getting one as a reward, on the other hand what the fuck 1 million accounts already, and people are can buy ships.

Im guessing they willl introduce shittons of advanced gear to earn ingame for all, but fuck it if the player have the hull kit, especially in a specialized role, its more than enough.

Abomination, which needs to settle down/decide ffs.

>tfw owning a Carrack
>tfw going to wait 2 years
>tfw in love

She is perfect.
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>>126356239
>mfw I discover a new jumppoint when some uppity Carrack fag is following me
>mfw it's too small for his fat ass to fit
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>>126356231
>paid 4 progress

maybe?
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>>126356361
>>126356239
Boy it's gonna be a sad day when they finally start working on the ship and it will begin to deviate from original concept.
Enjoy it while you can.
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>>126356415
That is actually can and will happen. She might send drones though, we have no idea how uber she can get.

>>126356459
The ship role/kit definitions are the only static things that are not going to change, gear equipment, mass speed etc all specs can downgrade/change.

And fuck me her definition and gear kit is goddess tier.
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>>126356559
>The ship role/kit definitions are the only static things that are not going to change
:^)
How are you enjoying those S3 guns on updated Freelancer and space A-10 Avenger btw?
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>>126356645
I have a Flancer DUR, and dont care about the guns. Hell, I want her to be a heavy handling ship.

Cutlassfags need to just, I dont know have a pint of beer and chill the fuck down. Its a shitty water eventually going to get cleared.
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So im not fucked anymore with my Freelancer MIS

Also
>Cutlass Blue
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>>126356778
>role changes
>I don't care about that lol
gg
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>>126356645

>Space A-10

That'd be the Vanguard surely?

Obviously designed after a P38, but that dakka
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>>126356926
get ready to laugh, it was the avenger
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>>126356956

Damn that is pretty laughable

or it would be if it weren't so damn sad
>>
Just give me my space zeroes, space mosquitoes and space a20 douglas.
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>>126356926
Was supposed to be Avenger. Vanguard seems like A-10 of SC now, but honestly its main gun seems weak as fuck and Paul is slowly turning it into Redeemer 2.0 anyway.
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So is the sabre the first purpose built stealth craft? Obviously there is the stealth hornet but that's modified to be stealth

I feel like it's going to be op, or it's going to be worthless
>>
>muh A-10

there's no air-to-ground to ground in this game so until they make player controlled space stations with static defenses it doesn't even make sense

also the gatlings in this game don't BRRRRT at a realistic frequency at all
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>>126357103
>>126356997
>>126356956
>>126356926
>>126356645
S5 THRUSTER

S5 NOSE GUN
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>>126348281
>Kong
>Kaelus

lol
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>>126357103

the death ballistic gatling just has placeholder stats right now I believe
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>>126357163
I love my Avenger. So cute.

I still don't understand how I am supposed to EVA to a ship and drag a body out and then put it in my freezer....Seems weird.
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>>126357268
>remove self from ship
>scoot over to target ship
>activate magboots
>force the lock
>flashbang in
>jump down and pound the perp with your patented Advocacy Tools
>haul their ass back to ship
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>>126356841
Its an exploration truck/van. Downsizing its guns are nothing to do with its role you autist.

As far as I know whatever gun they put into the Flancer now, it is going to change as the guns its supposedly have are not in the game yet.
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>>126357380
but will they give you a way to disable their ship for like 10 minutes or will you have to almost destroy it?

and I think with the animations the way they are you'll just get shot as soon as you come through the airlock
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>>126357480
EMP supposedly gonna do the disabling, but fuck it if we know how long.
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This ship stealing business is getting silly now
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Fuck, when will they allow unmelting ships with store credits again? I tried to be sneaky and melted my 157€ Super Hornet so I could rebuy my old Gladiator for 142€ and applying the free CCU back to the Super Hornet again but now I realized that I can't use store credits fucking hell. Fuck you Ben!
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>>126357543
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>>126357543
get jacked son
>>126357609
they are 'working on it' which means you aint getting that shit til new year and by then theyll remove the exchange rate cap so youll get fucked for it anyway
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>>126357452
>pitched as armored truck capable of scaring away pirates with its huge guns
>now it's a armored truck incapable of scaring away pirates with its small guns
>i-it's the same role!
Yes, anon, Hummer H2 and M-1151 are filling the exact same role too.
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>>126357659
So I'll just put those credits into an upgrade to my constellation then? What shall it be? Carrack Reclaimer Orion Endeavor Crucible or Hull D?
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>>126357698
You went full retard. Where does it says Freelancer is a Military craft, except the fucking experimental MIS variation?

Its a customizable Van with so-so guns as default. Earn ingame shekels and upgrade it if you want it as a turret assblaster.
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>Memesmashers
Serious question. Anyone actually watch that crap?
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>>126357519
but that's a different variant than the bounty hunting one

the sucker punches do distortion damage

I think they mentioned that distortion can blow up components or even chain reaction so maybe you can fuck their shit up except for the hull
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>>126357698
There arent many guns ingame for that size to say things like capable/incapable. Fuck, they havent started fiddling with gun attributes/ tracking speed etc yet.

You are one sweatypalm impatient backer, are you not?
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>>126357839
its one of the better shows, you get to see them working on the game and how it works, and usually get a sneak peek at upcoming features he bugfixing
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>>126357839
probably reddit does lmao
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>>126357839
I'd rather watch that puppy for however long it lasts
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>>126357782
Kek, you shills with defend anything, I swear.
>Who cares if Freelancer is unable to defend itself now, Lesnigger can do no wrong!
>Who cares if Cutlass is a 3 person hauler instead of 2 person fighter, Lesnigger can do no wrong!
>Who cares if Avenger is shit tier ship that is nothing liek it was pitched now, Lesnigger can do no wrong!
Fuck. Off.
>>126357893
>There arent many guns ingame for that size to say things like capable/incapable.
>supposed to have 4 S4 guns
>has 4 S4 guns
>nerfed to 4 S3 guns
>b-b-but it's alpha or whatever and S4s are not in the game yet!
Are you really, honest to god, retarded?
>>
>>126357689
Don't you have to look for a new job after getting fired from Samsung, dudebot? You shouldn't be shitposting this early!
>>
>>126357480
If its taking you 10 minutes to get into somebody's ship they deserve to get away

what are you, roleplaying an average-weight american police officer?
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>>126357952
What would you do, If I say that, S4 guns will move a lot slower than S2/3 anon? What would you do when those larger guns start to "cant track and aim fast enough" smaller ships due to being, well you know...big?
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>>126357689
brandy still pays for the mumble, and has for 2+ years, he isn't the leader of kong

this statement means nothing, kong has no leader
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>>126357775
>>126357659
>>126357609
This makes no fucking sense. It gave me $165 for the super hornet. Unmelting the Super Hornet costs 157€. So I tried to see how many €s the $165 Store Credit would give me. I applied them to another Ship and it gives me fuckin 133€. So they didn't even give me enough store credit for melting the super hornet to unmelt it in theory? Fucking wow. I hope Customer Support helps me out.
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>>126357839
It can be surprisingly insightful. You learn how things work by seeing why they don't work. And as the other anon says you sometimes get a peek at something well before it's in a state any of the others shows would dare reveal it
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>>126357952
yes literally who cares

they are making so many damn ships. Pick whatever you want
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>>126358049
I'd probably be happy that Lesnigger made something work without fucking it up completely for a change. Too bad that will never happen.
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>>126357839
I liked it when it was part of ATV, but I'm not going through extra effort to watch in on its own.
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>>126357992
no this is including all the time watching CIG's animations

plus you have to actually defeat the guy in FPS and restrain him
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>>126358132
Or perhaps they're just not worrying to hard about finer balance details while the game is still barely functional and adding said balance is a total waste of manhours, anon?

no?
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>>126358105
You can upgrade from ships to new ones for the full -CURRENT- price.

If you melt them you get the price you -PAID- for them. I swear, most of you haven't even read a single announcement.
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>>126358126
>both larger-than-starter solo ships have deviated from their pitch
>Pick whatever you want
Uuuuugh.
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>>126358132
>it will not happen

So many things that they need to do anon. That is why I dont care about guns n shit yet. The real shitstorm will begin when they have enough mechanics and gear in game to start "balancing"

Thats the shitstorm.

Also, big guns will eventually adjysted compared to small guns, it is a trade of, otherwise capital guns will wreck anything moving whether its small or big. Its something that IS going to happen, otherwise delete all the small ships from the game.
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>>126358190
..yeah, but if you're attacking the pilot/crew it matters little if the ship is disabled because he isn't going to be flying shit while attempting to dodge spess-tazers

if its a multicrew ship, can have another guy outside pumping more EMP into it
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>>126358206
Oh he expected to be able to get out more money than he paid. Lol.
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>>126358193
>they're just not worrying to hard about finer balance details while the game is still barely functional
>balance weapons and ship handling in every large update
Or, y'know, perhaps you're a goddamn moron :^)
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>>126358206
>>126358254
you two must be braindead
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>>126358290
Now you are pushing the retardzone. Ditched the school today?
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>>126358206
That has nothing to do with what he's talking about.
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Is the mustang delta poop
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>>126356434
That's mostly how CR defined it, people with jobs and little time would see little progress but would have more disposable income.
There are of course spoiled brats that have both, but meh.
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>>126358323
I'm sorry you got told so hard, buy you should think about learning to live with dumb shit you say. Not my problem you talk about things you don't even know when there's a proof to the contrary in every patchnotes.
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>>126358290
The game has never been balanced 'finely' like I said, shit for brains.

Its always had flavor of the patch weapons that get nerfed fucking hard and replaced a short while later with something else, or a ship, or missiles.
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>>126346476
How the fuck is that related to mouse users?..
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>>126358364
its a weird ship. it has plenty rockets, which are aimshot, not fire n forget. Its supposedly have/will have a low signature semistealth armor. Its glasscannon as of now. Maybe upgrading its shield against missile explosion can make it good, I dunno.

>rockets do fuck ton of damage if you manage to land them. they do hurt a lot.

Also, fact, it has a nice jump engine.
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>>126358508
>Kong
>Deserving of respect

He's deserving of a homecare nurse, thats about it
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>>126358443
because actually useful immersive cockpits is a foreign concept to them
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>>126358409
>The game has never been balanced 'finely' like I said, shit for brains.
Nice ad hominem, let me laugh at how stupid you are while I'm looking at patch notes where almost every page has balance/tweaks with dozens of "fine" balance changes like changing acceleration by the fracture of the second:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/patch-notes

Like I said, just learn to live with stupid shit you say.
inb4 t-that's not what I meant by fine balance!
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>>126358254
>>126358206
No, let me explain it. I bought the Gladiator LTI at one point. They then offerend the Super Hornet LTI for a higher Price so I melted the Gladiator LTI and paid the difference. Then later they added the free CCU from Gladiator to Hornet and Back. And now they added the unmelt. So I melted the Hornet hoping to get the difference back I paid once while still unmelting the Gladiator. Then being able to free CCU the Gladiator to the Hornet. It doesn't work with Store Credits okay. But the thing that bothers me is. I melted the Hornet and got $165 Store Credits for it. When I apply those $165 to any Purchase in € where Store Credits are applicable it tells me those $165 are only worth 132€ while the Hornet still would cost me 157€. The System is completely fucked.
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>>126358645
Small balance changes =/= balancing the game finely

>>126358591
I agree, friend
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>>126358407
>I'm sorry you got told so hard

Shit senpai, is leddit down or what?
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>>126358679
>inb4 t-that's not what I meant by fine balance!
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>>126358508
>kong twitter
not a thing tho
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>>126358729
Correct, now you're getting it
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what ship is the equivalent of this beauty?
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>>126358814
these attempts at falseflagging, really?

are we so desperate for content in /scg/ that we'll resort to petty intra-group drama?

lol
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>>126358843
300i senpai
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>>126358859
Shit posters have their quotas to meet.
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>>126358843
mustang
that cockpit shape
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>>126358508
I always thought that was bullshit, but Ben has been on a few of their podcasts. I guess they do have a line in on him.
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>>126358464

What about the 325a? I'm thinking about buying a ship to fart around with until the sabre is flyable

>tfw Archimedes cant jump

it'd be perfect
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>>126358843
Try E:D
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>>126358974
Kong has spies everywhere, shitposting spies. They're worse than goons. Think about it... Kong notoriously hates goons from their MWO rivalry days. Ben singlehandedly defeated the SC goons. It just makes sense!
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>>126359050
you joke but it does kind of make sense
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>>126359050
PERIOD. THE END.
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>>126359017
Avenger seems to be a comfy ship for starting, and seems customizable. Im not a fan of 300 series )they are supposedly getting a makeup as well), I would keep Delta, or go Avenger I guess..you can ccu later to 300 series?
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How many fish of the same type can you have in your tank? I want more of these fuckers.
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>>126359065
A bit, yeah
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>>126359113
>load starfarer up with water instead of fuel
>fill with literal trillions of oshi
>fly to new player spawn station
>vent the tanks
>everyones vr headsets drop to 5 frames and judder
>new players vomiting all over their keyboards all around the world

its genius
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>>126359221
>Starfarer

Such an underrated ship. I wish I had one.
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Hey Avenger fags, how does it feel when Reliant already got variants planned and drawn and all you got after a year of "concepting" is 2 modules that don't even affect the exterior look of the ship?
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>>126359327
Dudebot, pls.
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>>126356926
>P-38
>not P-51

it's like you really don't understand planes let alone spacecraft. it's even got the fucking turret for fuck sake.
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>>126359354
that's regulus, anon
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>>126359328
tana stronk
reliants have amazing cockpit views and will be awesome for flying between shit
for example
>getting chased by fattie connie or freelancer or avenger
>flip vertical mode
>fly between solar panels on station
>CONTACT LOST
>laugh
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What do people use track IR for? Aiming gimbles?
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>>126359407
muh simyulayshun fags who think it gives them an advantage trying to use their neck as a precision input axis
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>>126359407
I tried using it for aiming gimbals but its fair too unwieldly for me.

I use it in flight similators (including E:D for the hour that I suffered through it) but in SC it really doesn't work. Not even for pure headlooking. Makes me inaccurate.
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Am I the only one who finds SCs flight model to be frustratingly bad?
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>>126359361

The design similarities are striking and they are both long range fighters.

They also both have 4 nose weapons with a 5th heavier gun
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>>126359398
MISC master race
>fly my Freelancer
>suddenly 2 hornetbabies behind me
>turn on a dime
>blow them with my quad S4 gu-
oh wait...
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>>126359506
Depends on the ship
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>>126359730
Have to pretend they still mainly support the only game they're even marginally good at
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>>126351023
>posted from my ship with over double health, double firepower, and similar agility.

No. It's like PS2 where certs give straight up more health/power/accuracy/range than newer players. So much in that game is an upgrade, not a sidegrade like they initially pretended
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>>126359695
Flying the avenger.
Blacking out every 2 seconds aside, it just feels jerky when trying to aim at things, something shared among every ship i've flown is hitting things beyond 800m being hard to do, especially on the pirates in Crusader.

and lastly combat just seems to be just jousting 24/7 or orbiting, it just ain't fun.
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>>126359750
>Similar agility
>Gladiator

fucking lel
>>
avenger goes 290 m/s in PTU now
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>>126359985
>were relevant too
Lol
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>>126359971
My loo is gold plated.

Trufax
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>>126359985
G-GOZIRRA
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>>126359985
>P-please talk about us

pathetic desu senpai
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>>126359985
Don't let the door hit you on the way out, weebs.
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>>126359802
the networking on crusader is shitty so the pips and AI bounce all over the place. It's much better in AC.

but the blacking out thing really ruins it for me. Gsafe just doesn't work in some builds
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>>126359985
DELETE THIS, I'M EATING HERE
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>>126359985
>whaling org
>led by whale
the irony
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where do you guys hang out? (kong)
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>>126359985
Who is the fat bitch, then? Haruko of KWA?
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>>126360079
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>>126359985
Whom exactly is this?
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>>126360090
Discord, mumble, /gerg/
Mumble not so much anymore.
>>
what the fuck happened we were talking about video games
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>>126360230
Looks like a fat where to me.

>>126360263
Konglets baiting each other.
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>>126359816
Both are single seaters that can keep things in their forward view easily.

You do fly in best mode, decoupled, right?
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Do you just get a hornet for PU if you don't have a ship?
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>>126360785
Thats nose authority, not manouverability or agility.

Learn the difference, nublet
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So i just jumped on SC from ED, am i in a deeper shit hole now?
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>>126356645
>Cucklass owners are still just dragging their mopey soggy anuses all over the place crying.
I pray these days never end. SA, Reddit and 4chan are infested with you whiny babies and I will never get tired of not owning a Cutlass.
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>>126360994
Alright is this seriously the leader of KWA

not bad
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>>126360958
>game to not game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGp9P6QvMjY
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>>126360994
Someone call animal control, we got a cow here.
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>>126361240
Believing anyone in KWA is female is literally exactly the same as believing stuttering weebs on 4chan are as well.
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>>126361303
They're not?
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>>126360994
qt3.14
>>
Mason, hear me. I require more of this slut.
>>
Been waiting like 3 hours for my account to be copied over to PTU.

Anyone else having issues?
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>>126362026
I hope you did it through the site and not the launcher. You'll be waiting a while if this isn't the case.
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>>126357148

As long as Hornets exist, worthless. This is coming from a Hornet F7C owner.
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>pirating versus griefing

Why is this such a big issue now when Chris clearly stated what he deems griefing, and that pirating will certainly be a career path in SC.

Well, a mod at least had a somewhat OK take on it. Surprisingly.
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>>126362282

Do hornets have really good radar or something?
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>>126357992

You havent seen the animation times, have you?
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>>126362290
Chris has always been in favor of people fucking each others shit up and getting away with it. The forums have always ignored him whenever he says these things

I think they need reminding that he said it will be perfectly possible, albeit hard, to kill someone in high sec space and get away without any sort of repercussion
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>>126362512
you probably mean fatty
also:
scoop is a guy
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>>126362512
I'd harpoon her.
>>
post ur ship
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>>126362394
He's only been in favour of hostilities that are "realistic".
He is against players being able to ram & suicide into other ships in safe-zones as well as players camping safe-zone borders only to destroy.

I think that's pretty fair.
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>>126362737
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>>126362737
I have too many.
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>>126362691
She looks a lot thinner here than in this picture
>>126362512
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>>126362512
A bit too big for me.
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I want to use the M50.
I want to only use the M50.
I want to carry enough fuel that I can go forever in my M50.
M50 is love.
M50 is life.
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>>126362737


I want to just sit in the shadows with my engines off in kareah and poop on everyone who comes close
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>>126362905
So you just want to fly in space? Nothing else?

There's a game for that.
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>>126362961
Nah. I want to land on planets. I pretty much just want to be a delivery boy with a nice ship. Fight wise I'm terrible at dog fighting and don't think I could ever git gud so I'd rather stick to the FPS portion of the game. (Haven't tried it yet, heard it's bad so I hope it's improved.)
>>
We need an update to increase ship count to something like 40.

Then we need Org 2.0, or at least basic organizational tools. I just want to feel the beginnings of having real enemies in space rather than some random poorora or 300cry bot.
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>>126362927
I want something that's the Avenger, but bigger
There are other Aegis ships but they're more military than all-around utility
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>>126362905
350R is faster on every track currently btw
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>>126363074
>delivery boy
>M50

u fkin wot
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>>126363130

Vanguard seems like your best bet, but yeah more military oriented

>tfw I really want a ship with a living quarters
>Vanguard is beautiful, living quarters, and death gatling
>really like the idea of a cutting edge stealth fighter also

if only i was rich and could just buy them all
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>>126362905
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho9n0xaC3Gk
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>>126363180
I don't give a fuck. I like the M50.
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>>126362905
>pitch ship as police interceptor
>call the ship M50 Interceptor
>it's a racer
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>>126363332
Nnnggh. Yeah. You. You're fucking amazing, anon.
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>>126363362
Yeah I've tried it with
http://pastebin.com/Bxycdm2x

It's fucking fun
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>>126363261
The only problem I have with the Vanguard is that it says zero cargo space
I want to be able to haul at least a little bit. Then it would be my perfect upgrade from the Avenger.
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>>126362358
Their pilots have really good headcanon
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Did someone say fast?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfwyAlGHpTQ&feature=youtu.be
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>>126363562
>Upgrade

You can specialize. Not upgrade.
>>
So I have a Freelancer MIS, Avenger Titan, and a Mustang Delta. Thinking of melting the Avenger and upgrading the Delta to a 350r for maximum fast.

Am I a genius or retarded?
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>>126362905
I want the black skin already
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>>126363803
Retarded. Keep avenger.
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>>126363880
Jesus christ anon, don't make me unmelt my M50
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seeing as the retaliator and cutlass are 100% fucking useless and outmoded by other ships, what should I buy with the $350 in melted proceeds? I already have a constellation and starfarer for multi-crew shenanigans.

pic unrelated
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Own gladius carrack and cutlass blue.
Feel like melting the Gladius and cutlass.
Going up in price isn't a problem.
I want a small ship and a medium ship.
What should I get?
Pic related. SC backers.
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>>126364245
>seeing as how I'm a retard and 100% fucking wrong

well don't be so hard on yourself, anon
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>>126364245
>Retaliator and cutlass
>useless

Why should anyone give any advice to an obvious autist?
>>
Just got this game as an early christmas gift. What's the best setup between mouse/keyboard and a controller to fly if you don't have a flight stick?
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>>126364631
Especially when the Cutlass turret just got buffed to dual S3s for some reason
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>>126364665
>this game
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>>126364353
>cutlass is too big to be a dog fighter but too small to be a multi-crew vessel so it just does mobility,shielding and firepower badly all around
>retaliator gets shit on by everything and can have it's anti-capital job done just as well by smaller, more agile gladiators and vanguards.

was thinking a vanguard harbinger and maybe an avenger
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>>126364631
Why should anyone want an advice from an obvious shill?
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>>126364934
That's not an acceptable meme nowawdays, anon. I played this game earlier this morning. You can too.
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>>126364665
Why don't you try it out, anon? They handle pretty differently. If you're talking pure effectiveness, M&KB, probably.

>>126364981
>Cutlass
>Bad firepower or shielding

Oh, and by the way, you're firmly complaining about alpha-state balance. Like the mouthbreather you are.
>>
I have an Andromeda, and I'm really liking the look of the Merchantman and the Reclaimer. But I already find it hard enough to fly around solo in the Andromeda and having to jump out myself to do PU missions and such.

Would upsizing ships be a bad move for solo play? Surely you couldn't send off NPC crew to turn on relays/trade with people/salvage shit, could you?
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>>126365060
Well I don't know about you but I don't treat alpha builds with obvious bug and balance issues as Early Access
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>>126364934
I don't understand. Have I committed some sort of faux pas?
>>
Does the sabre having s2 gimbles gonna change?

The website says it should be size s3 all around except for the pylones

2 S3s and 2 S2s seems pretty underwhelming compared to say a super hornet
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>>126365383
Some people's shitposting revolves around the concept that you can't play SC right now.
>>
Never trust the stats page

any of them

even if they just released.

You should also learn how the mounting system works. A S3 hardpoint can mount a S2 gimbal puck, giving you a S2 gimalled gun
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>>126365506
It has 4 S3 hardpoints according to the Q&A, which is the best info we have right now.

Also
>>126365647
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>>126365647
>Never trust Chris Roberts
ftfy, good advice.
>>
I have an M50, so no jumpdrive. Does this mean I can't do shit at the moment?
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>>126365079
they've had 2 full years to figure out how to make it useable m8. It hasn't happened so it probably won't be very good at release either.

the retaliator looks pretty but that's about all that's good about it. It's more hallway than torpedo bay and the turrets are a nice addition but have no overlapping fields of fire and have to contend with the awful placement of wings, stabilizers and the terrible engine layout that flanks both bottom turrets. that isn't even touching on the obvious hp and firepower issues it has currently, but then again that is an easy fix. redesigning the ship model to not be totally fucking retarded isn't.
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>>126365979
Shut up and buy $75 tabl- Living Module, I mean, you fag.
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>>126365928
You can race on tracks and do Vanduul swarm, M50 is for carrying to races
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>>126365979
I don't even know where to start with your retarded ass.

Its really beyond me to aim an argument at your level, but I'll keep it nice and short, I guess

Stop fucking posting
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>>126366198

not him but the retaliator is worthless

Just melt it anon and move on
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>>126366172
but I can't go to other planets in the universe, right?
>>
star citizen starter package restock when?
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>>126366275
Right now?

Yeah, no shit it doesn't have much application.
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>>126366294
Nope, you wouldn't take an F1 car offroad/track
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>>126366275
>torpedos not even in the game
>no big ships to shoot at
>turrets not stabilised
Sure, it's completely worthless and should be melted right away
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>>126366332

yes right now and for the foreseeable future

even if release ever comes around it will only be somewhat useful as a cargo ship, even then it wont do as well as dedicated cargo ships like the freelancer
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>>126366423
Nice, where did you get that crystal ball?
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>>126366423
>yes right now and for the foreseeable future

Which, for you, is no fucking time at all
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>>126366390
If it's not amazing at dogfighting then people don't care about it's actual purpose
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>>126366501

Gonna be hunting a lot of capital ships come live?
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>>126346715
In the 10 hours I've played not one person has shot me on sight

I'm constantly co-operating with people and multi crewing in everything from connies to auroras. People just want fun space adventures
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>>126366387
god damn it
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>>126366390
Torpedoes were in PTU, but don't really work on 2.0 live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBewCZEgUG4
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>>126366549
>Thinking thats the only application it could feasibly have

Bet you're one of the mouthbreathers that think missiles will stay as they are now, or that fuel won't change how ships are used, either.
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>>126366670

>hitting small ships with massive torpedos

good luck with that

and besides I doubt two torpedos will destroy a capital ship anyways
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>>126366659
Those are Stalker Vs, not torpedoes.
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>>126366743
>implying RSI won't bring out their $300+ ships on day 1
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>>126366501
same place you got yours

>b-but it's for hunting capitals!!!
Pure speculation at how good of a job it's actually going to do at that. As it stands currently it's not good for anything and that does not inspire confidence in the 6 other people you have to convince to come with you instead of just getting in their super hornets, vanguards, sabers and gladiators and doing what you never could as a single ship.
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>>126367312
>As it stands currently it's not good for anything

The fact that you keep repeating that when the 'game' is in the current state it is makes me question if you should have access to an internet capable device or you're just hiding it from the nurses

Its on-par with you calling the HULL series useless if they were in game right now.
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>>126366275
I have one and this is the state of it right now. It's obviously subject to change, but I'm not even kidding when I think a fully crewed Retaliator can probably not even take out an Aurora.

They did actually put the size two guns on the turrets now for 2.1c, but I think even that won't make much of a difference. Have you tried shooting anything with the Retaliator turrets? Yeah.
>>
what bugs me is they bothered making the retaliator flyable when they could have been focusing on a relevant ship instead
>>
I think everyone agrees that the Retaliator is pretty trash as is. It seems like any other ship would be a better choice to have for the sake of alpha.

Just buy the Retaliator ingame with credits when it's possible, and its uses become more apparent.
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>>126367637
even when turret stabilization comes in you still have to contend with the lack who's targeting what, ship geometry and lack of overlapping fields of fire. this is all of course assuming your pilot has his shit together and flys level and straight. it doesn't account for when he has to make quick evasive maneuvers taking you for a ride on the vomit comet.
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>>126367930
>this is all of course assuming your pilot has his shit together and flys level and straight. it doesn't account for when he has to make quick evasive maneuvers taking you for a ride on the vomit comet.

>I have no idea what turret stabilzation is, the post

You're fucking retarded. Pretty sure I told you to stop posting already.
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>>126367930
The pilot honestly doesn't even know what the fuck to do because the turrets are all over the place. Who is targeting what? What part of the ship is he supposed to point at where? The turrets have really shitty angles and field of view so any gunner's window of opportunity is TINY.
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>>126367801
Well, of course it's trash. There's no capital ships the bomb. That is the sole purpose of the retaliator, anon. To bomb capital ships with it's massive torpedos, the torpedos it has because it's a bomber, not a fighter. There is no content in the game, currently, that allows you to bomb larger vessels, so the purpose of the retaliator is null.

I hope people weren't expecting a bomber to be a dog fight combat craft.
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>>126368040
This guy doesn't know the difference between turrets designed for offense and point defense. Point at him and laugh.
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>>126368416

I think people were just hoping it could reasonably defend itself
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>>126368416
>That is the sole purpose of the retaliator, anon

Why do we have such an unflux of morons today?
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>mfw the idiots in this thread actually believe a finished game will be released
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>126368416
The issue is that even the Constellation has enough firepower (because fucking 72 missiles on autoloader) to match the torpedoes and it can dogfight reasonably well with just one crewman. Who would EVER want to be a Retaliator gunner?

>>126368451
Who would EVER want to be a point defence guy? Exactly. They should just ditch the 'manned' part like it was originally designed to be.
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>>126368513
>the military bomber retaliators sole purpose isn't to be a bomber for the military

u fokken w0t m80?
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>>126368032
and once your turret's transverse runs out due to rapid roll and pitch, then what?

you go for a ride, nigga. a ride on the vomit comet.
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>>126368518
lol
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>>126368518
rofl xD
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>>126368559
>Dropship module
>Cargo module
>Living module
>talk of gun modules
>talk of cluster anti-fighter missiles replacing torpedoes

ITS A PURE BOMBER GUYS, IT DOES NOTHING ELSE
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>>126368554
>moving the goalposts, the post
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>>126368559
It also has troop transport pods.
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>>126368682
Don't forget the sexbot module with specialized prostate-tickling probe drones. It only shows up in the store for concierge.
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>>126368656

Real talk if it goes full missile boat then that would be cool though I'm not sure how they'd manage it

>like 100 missiles in the bay
>lock onto multiple targets
>we macross now
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Is it not possible to copy the LIVE files to the PTU folder so that I don't have to download 30Gb?

I've copied PUBLIC and renamed it to TEST then did the file verification but it still starts downloading the 30Gb. I've checked the new Test folder and it says it's 28Gb
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>>126368663
No goalposts were moved. The turrets are trash. If they're meant to be point defence, they're even more trash because they require five fucking people just to sit on their asses. It only does bombing? Then they might as well scrap the entire ship since other multirole ships can do this better. Even if they manage to make it at least do the bombing, how often do you realistically expect to do bombing? Let's be real, with the modularity it's supposed to be basically an alternative version of the Constellation but it fails to do so in every aspect.
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>>126368975
>a bomber bombs, point defense turrets defend points, i'm mad grahbhlhglgglrgrrglrglr
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>>126368554
>Who would EVER want to be a point defence guy? Exactly. They should just ditch the 'manned' part like it was originally designed to be.
Every turret on every bomber ever made were just point defence. They were never offensive weapons. They're there SPECIFICALLY to make other planes fuck off so they could drop tons of the actual offensive weaponry from great heights on the heads of nazis, commies, and goat fuckers world wide.
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JUST
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>>126369196
>a bomber bombs, point defense turrets defend points
>it doesn't do either
How hindflustered do you have to be to lose the capability of reading?
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>>126368597
>>126368626
>their defense mechanism consists of shitposting away the fact that star citizen will never ever ever ever ever ever ever be released
HAHAHAHAHAH
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>>126369306
That's great but it isn't good game design and can't actually defend when nobody can hit anything because the turrets don't work, are placed in awkward places, can't even point down because the guns on them require to be too big, and it requires you to ask five people to be their bench guy.
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>>126369393
Hey Derek, how's line of defense coming along? I was thinking about buying the 60 dollar weapon and health kit pack.
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>>126369393
>never ever ever ever ever ever ever
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>>126369306

yeah but the turrets dont make anyone fuck off

they didnt make anyone fuck off in real life either

and that's when there were shittons of them with overlapping fields of fire

Theres a reason bombers don't have them anymore, and it's because they simply aren't effective
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>>126369306
Gee, what can defend the ship better. Five air superiority dogfighters or five barely functioning turrets. They require the same amount of people.
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>>126369478
>Derek
>Not THE Derek

Learn respect kid
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>>126368883
it would need to be more of a space ballistic missile sub with multi target first strike capability. If your gunners need to actually shoot at anything close enough you're already in deep.
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>>126369478
I want to know if there has been people who has actually bought shit in that piece of shit that doesn't even deserve to be called a game
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>>126369552
Gee, what vehicles should I get for my family? A van and five ferraris, or just a van? They require the same amount of money...
Oh wait
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>>126369552
>implying fighters have enough fuel to follow you around
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>>126369653
>ferraris
You mean freely dumped starter Auroras. Because you're not even taking out a single one of those in a fully crewed Retaliator.
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>Get in turret
>target enema
>press L
>Guns/Camera now locked to enemy
>Only minor adjustments to keep fire on target
It's literally muh Star Wars at that point.
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>>126369393
If someone truly tried to defend the game, you would call them a shill, post more memes, and disregard all evidence given to you.

/scg/ has been through this for years. There's no point in trying to even argue with you, smarty.
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>>126369713
if only someone made a long range space fighter that could keep pace with the long range bombers...
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>>126369513
Once again we're back to complaining about balance

If all the turrets one shot you, would you still be complaining about the Retaliator being shit because it has blind spots?

>Theres a reason bombers don't have them anymore, and it's because they simply aren't effective

Actually, its becasue they can't shoot down aircraft that can lock onto, and shoot BVR missiles from 100km+ out. They're still very fucking deadly, and work fine in a WW2 space sim esque thing.
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>>126369713
What is Vanguard, designed for this exact thing?
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>>126369834
Why doesn't the UEE just build a million retribution-class super dreadnoughts? Then it wouldn't need bombers or fighters. Checkmate, atheists.
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>>126369891

I don't own a retaliator, my point is it isn't balanced because its a sitting duck even with a full crew

>Buh buh its a bomber!

doesn't mean it needs to be defenseless

Civilian cargo ships are better armed.
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>>126369948
>I'll just deflect my retardation with le funny joke

>damage control

You aren't even trying. Get fucked.
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>>126370027
I'm saying calling its fine in concept, just needs rebalancing

like CIG is doing

Part of the Retaliator's defence is speed, too. It can fuck off in cruise faster than most fighters
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>>126369891
Just from a game design standpoint the Retaliator simply doesn't work. How hard will it be to get any ship that just flies and can pew? Probably not very hard. Who would still want to be a gunner for a Retaliator when it's about the most unfun thing you can do in the game so far? I wouldn't. And it's not effective either.

The manned turret on the Constellation for example makes sense, it can see and fire upon nearly everything the pilot can, but even without it it's pretty much just as effective. So, if there happens to be a dude on your ship he can at least help but it isn't necessary for the ship to function.
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>>126370141
Actually it can't anymore, they cut the cruise in half. It's just under 500 m/s now.
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>>126370225
I wonder if thats intentional.

Thats basically SCM.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was a total fuckup, they did change the Freelancer's mass because it was 1/10th what it was meant to be
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>>126370081
>posting scripted videos
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>>126370115
>ship clearly already hit and fucked up
>firing two more torpedos
Harsh
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Retaliator isn't even the issue here, it's turrets being shit compared to bringing another ship.
But with so many turreted ships CIG needs to fix them, it's not like it's one ship they can leave in the shitter.
Besides insane aim and dps I think one of the biggest buffs will be fuel costs being high enough that taking fighters will be way more expensive than taking gunners. Fuel needs to be a big factor anyways so whale ass niggers can't into Hull E on day one.
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>>126370367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfwyAlGHpTQ&feature=youtu.be

Fucking well scripted then
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>>126369948
It would make more sense than single seat fighter craft with human pilots. There wouldn't even be a constraint on available resources to build such things either because you're in fucking space and have access to an unfathomable amount of EVERYTHING. The only hindrance would be for crew, but I imagine 1000 years in the future most fabrication processes and systems would be automated.

You know, come to think of it, for a space game set in the far future there isn't really a lot of futuristic tech. Just WW2 with lasers and annoying holographic displays.
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>>126370486
really though, I wouldn't want to spend all my time taking potshots at something I can't even see in space, hard to imagine actual futuristic tech anyways
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>>126370486
Launching iron rods from hundreds of km out would be pretty boring tbf
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>>126370486
>Just WW2 with lasers and annoying holographic displays.
>Just exactly what was pitched

ftfy
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>>126364665
Try both.

Mouse & Keyboard: easy to learn, pretty effective.

Controller: Not sure, never used one for this

Flight Stick: high skill curve, really hard to master but probably optimal by a hair at the very top of the curve

Really, one of the absolute best things I can say about Star Citizen is that they went out of their way to make the controls intuitive, effective, and fun for people who just have a basic M&KB setup
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>>126370390
So your "balance" would be to make fuel expensive enough that it justifies having turrets would be the better option? That's not a good idea. Fighter pilots would then have hard times just navigating the universe themselves. You would effectively make fighters a hassle for escorts, bounty hunters, and all other roles attached, just so some turrets will have crew.

A better way of balancing, in my opinion, would be to make non-fighter turrets overheat much longer. So if an S2 gun on the hornet would overheat in 15 seconds of constant firing, for a retaliator turret it would be 25 - 30 seconds, with cool down being faster + holding plenty more ammo if it's a ballistic weapon. It could also shoot slightly faster since it has medium sized powerplants powering them, maybe something like 15% overall. A fighter craft would still be better than turrets, but this would make them at least somewhat useful.
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>freelancer drama
I have the MIS and literally I was expecting the thing to handle like a paper bag of dogshit, have maybe OK defense but besides that be a glass cannon
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>>126370793
All of that is already planned, in practice.

Just not on stock vessels.
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>>126359802
>>126360060
All ships with an internal physics grid have the blackout bug, because the blackout direction is currently tied to the map instead of the ship.
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>>126370390
The Hull E and Hull D are suppose to have crazy huge fuel tanks specifically for the purpose of refueling the escorts...
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>>126370951
>refueling escorts
wut

When does it say that Hull series ships can refuel escorts? It makes logical sense, but I haven't actually seen the words themselves.

Sauce
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>>126370741
This guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
Controller: choose this if foreveralone and only need to hang yourself with the cord.
M/KB: Choose this if you want to take your cat with you to hell.
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>>126370893
Still more pissed off about the shit view than the guns and maneuvering, myself. I think I'd rather go with a Reliant at this point.
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>>126370486
>The true difficulty (and in turn the
true innovation of the Flashfire system) came from the ability to transfer the highly variable amounts of data, energy and other materials through from the hull to the
weapon. The solution is a network of organically generated nano-tubules capable of transferring everything from onboard battery energy to trigger-fire commands from
the mother ship.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/sbmkz1b222bvsr/source/JumpPoint_02-01-_Jan_14_The-Cutting-Edge.pdf

this shit sounds pretty futuristic dess
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>>126370115

>Look at the harbinger for the first time
>that torpedo bay
>that belt fed missile/rocket turret
>that strife mass driver

thing is sexy as fuck, seems all around superior to the warden, i wonder if it's going to handle a lot worse
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>>126369834
>Vanguard
>long range escort fighter
:^)

Vanguards are for warping in, unloading the payload from the range and fucking off. They're not for dogfighting and escort missions.
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>>126371113
>MUH VIEW
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>>126370928
wow that's retarded

so that must be why I can black out by accelerating forward
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>>126371165
bait detected.
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>>126371113
Well they're fixing that too.

>>126371165
Maybe if you're as unskilled as you.
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>>126371165

It's a long range fighter, that's what it's classified as.
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>>126370741
>still can't aim gimbals properly with joystick

or did they fix that yet in PTU?
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>>126371248
>>126371268
>>126371293
>literally unable to read lore
>unable to read stats to see that the ship is not designed with maneuverability in mind
How embarrassing to be you right now. gg no re boys, do some research before opening your tight little mouth pussies next time.
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>>126371141
I imagine it's going to be a hell of a lot slower.
Torpedos don't weigh nothing.
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>>126371423
>Trusting the lore they shit on more than Lucas

lmaoing @ ur life

"Today we are pleased to reveal the Vanguard Sentinel and the Vanguard Harbinger, two of the most popular Vanguard configurations ever to dogfight in deep space."
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>>126371141
Seeing that image, I wonder what happened to
>the Vanguard has a lot of crawlspaces and internal access to all the components

All the acces points are gone in the 2.0/2.1 version.
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>>126371525
>Trusting Ben
LMAOing right back at ya.
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>>126371423
let's see.

>>126371165
>Vanguards are for warping in, unloading the payload from the range and fucking off. They're not for dogfighting and escort missions.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14915-Vanguards-And-Then-There-Were-Three

>The Vanguard is the Empire’s premier deep space fighter, designed for maximum crew survivability on long-duration missions. The military treats the Vanguard as a robust platform capable of being modified for any number of missions. Today we are pleased to reveal the Vanguard Sentinel and the Vanguard Harbinger, two of the most popular Vanguard configurations ever to dogfight in deep space.
>dogfighting in deep space
>pic

k
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>>126371029
They mention in the Hull Q&A that all the larger Hulls can mount refueling equipment.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14688-Hull-E
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>>126371627
Can't have it both ways, boy

bet you could suck a golf ball through a garden hose, queerbait

SHOW ME YOUR SHITPOSTING FACE, PRIVATE
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>>126370664
what about drone ships with a manned command vessel and a swarm of drones?

how about larger ships with automatic fabrication ability so they can construct fleets and munitions on a location?

what about directed swarms of self-replicating nanobots that eat ships and grow larger? what technologies could you think of that would be a defense to that?

if we can manipulate gravity to create a 1.0g pull inside space ships why can't we create a well of gravity outside them that the mass of the ship constantly falls toward?

why do we insist on cramming people against windows on the pressure hull when you could run a 180 or 360 degree display from the comfort of your armored command center?

Why isn't generated heat something you have to manage to avoid cooking yourself alive?
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>>126371141
everything with torpedoes is currently slow as fuck... so yes.
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>>126371635
See >>126371627
You must be really stupid to take Lesnigger seriously.
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>>126358843
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>>126371713
You are the weebiest shitlord here and KWA posts occasionally
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>>126371332
nah, the targeting reticle still gets stuck sometimes with stick
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>>126371626
>crawlspaces and internal access
I doubt it
Look at all the non open space
If that was crawlspace then the whole ship would be basically hollow
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>>126371764
It's ok to be btfo. Just learn to research your own posts first, friend.
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>>126371872
A 2D slice like that is deceptive though, because it doesn't show you the nacelles, or anything either side of the actual pod / ramp spaces.
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>>126371940
Refer to >>126358695
Upvoted, gilded, laughed at.
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>>126371786

oh shit, that is spot on
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>>126371872
I think what they tried to say was that shields, coolers, engines etc. can be accessed from the inside by opening those panels. If you look at the current version in the hangar, they're all gone.
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>>126371815
aside from the gravity manipulation and nanobot stuff these are all things we do today friend. we have literal swarms of drones flying over combat zones. automated construction and fabrication technology has existed since the 80's. same with wide area displays.
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>>126371996
>>126372104
That's fair. I could see internal access panels.
I don't think there's room for any crawlspaces though. Not unless you go inside the engines
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>>126371332
If you're using a single stick setup, fixed guns are better anyway.
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>>126371113
>17 square miles of metal infront of you so you can look out of a 3 inch ribbon of glass
why
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>>126370893
The problem is not so much that they fixed the mass, or changed teh guns.

The problem is that the hornetshitters were rioting that it was not OK for anything that cost less to be as powerful as their precious hornet, and won again.

With things like this serving as precedence, the game will end up as a broken mess that is pay2win.


On top of that we have the Freelancer itself, it had a FUBARed vockpit before, got fixed, got a remodelling pass and has a FUBARed cockpit AGAIN.
Really, CIG?

Pic related, this was posted yesterday and it might serve as a baseline on how to unfuck the cockpit again.
Some faggot in /scg/ made this up after sitting in the pilot's chair for 30 minutes.
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>>126372357
What a nice collection of swamp gas and weather balloons you have there.
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>>126372357
I didn't say they were impossible, autismo.

>>126372535
Yeah, I doubt there is, either.
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>>126372645
Your picture sucks, stop embarrassing yourself by posting it here.
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>yfw Ben has killed every mid-sized ship to sate the Constellation and Hornet niggers
>every ship that's the size of a Freelancer or Cutlass will be turned into a gliding mountain with anemic peashooters
>as long as Hornet babies and Constellation cunts are whine with their wallets, this will never change
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>>126372645
>>
>no frames
>slow motion bug
>instant blackouts
>impossible to kill pirate NPCs that you can just ignore
>Hornetshitters everywhere trying to kill you

Why do they advertise this shit to normies as if it's a finished game
Star Citizen probably wouldn't get such a bad rap if they actually treated it as an Alpha.

There's not even a fucking watermark.
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>>126371113
>all those switches and dials
>not a single one of them does a fucking thing they're just there to fill up what would have been empty space
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>>126371645
>“Is only the Hull E capable of transporting, refueling and refitting escort fighters?”

>No. Any ship in the series is capable of mounting this equipment where space allows, the Hull E just has more space for it. (That is: the Hull D can likely be modified with refueling equipment or smaller ship attachments, while the Hull A probably can not.)

Oh shit niggers. I hope the Hull C can also have a refueling port for some fighters. That would be fantastic.
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>>126372645
>green
nigga thats yellow
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>>126372575
I don't have a choice with the Avenger

pretty gay that I have to lock my main gun when AC has been out for over a year
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>>126372976
>Why do they advertise this shit to normies as if it's a finished game

They don't

>Star Citizen probably wouldn't get such a bad rap if they actually treated it as an Alpha.

Oh you mean like that Game Awards 2015 trailer that was viewed by loads of people unaware of the project that had ALPHA 2.0 written multiple times?
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>>126370893
>be a glass cannon

Another forced meme, promoted by Ben and RSI autists.
>>
Do I need a powerful PC to run SC on medium low settings? I know it uses the cryengine and in every screenshot and video it seems very detailed.
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>>126372930
Also OK, anything that reduces the acres of DASHBOARD and ROOF.

I understand that the thing needs a good bit of airliner feels, but there is a fucking missile variant and an exploration variant, both need to see what the fuck is going on around them to make any sense.
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>>126373108
I just decided to use that term all on my own you autist
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>>126373106
Since when do early access games spend more money on advertising then game development?

Clearly they aren't doing a good job considering how many newfriends have comed into this general asking about a 'game'.
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>>126373171

Sure you did. I saw your post on Reddit that said the same thing.
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>>126373136
Its highly CPU dependent, but you need a decent PC, yes.

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Star-Citizen-Spiel-3481/Specials/Alpha-20-Benchmarks-Test-1181415/

>Since when do early access games spend more money on advertising then game development?

Are you suggesting CIG spends more on marketing that game development? Thats incredibly stupid.
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>>126373106
>>126372976
I think it's more like that it can't be helped that they're (in)famous for selling ships for hundreds of dollars
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>>126373040
Then MSpaint the pic to say yellow, I just tried to use two colors that were distinct from the bluegrey of the cockpit.

I first used a darker (actual) green which turned out to be not very well visible.
Also, get your eyes checked, that is actually a green, just with a lot of yellow mixed in.
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>>126372583
it's an entire room not a bubble canopy. It would look ridiculously vulnerable if it were all glass
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>>126373287
yes let me just open my reddit account you super shitposting sleuth since I really feel the need to browse two cancer infested shitholes
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>>126373357
At that point its a lime-ish yellow and not even a yellow green senpai
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>>126372645
>like here?

does this retarded nigger not realize there are two seats so it has to be centered?
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>>126372645
>>126372893
see
>>126329851

You guys (or samefag) are crying hornets everywhere. Can you point to places on where people were comparing the hornet series to the freelancer, demanding that the hornet come supreme, thus making the weapons smaller? I've seen your tears for multiple threads and you all say hornetniggers are the reason for any kind of nerf with them "demanding" that other ships be made weaker. Where are these demands? Can your link to any of them? At this point I'm convinced that >>126329851 is right that super hornets have become some kind of boogeyman, unless if you can prove what you say.
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>>126373495
Are you too retarded to know that the right seat is not for a co-pilot but the engineer who handles power distribution and shields?
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>>126373559

Lick my anus, Hornigger.
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>>126373374
>it's an entire room not a bubble canopy. It would look ridiculously vulnerable if it were all glass

you don't fucking say
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>>126373559
>where are these demands

All over the forums and Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3y1anx/freelancer_guns_have_been_downgraded_to/

Plenty of Hornet babbies crying about Freelancer being equal firepower to them, meming the freight truck BS. They even banned somebody and deleted his comment.
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>>126373374
Shields and the fact that all glass in the SC universe is as strong as armour.
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>>126373791
Theres 4 front seats, surely the one on the right is the co-pilot and one of the rear is engineer.

>>126373374
>Glass
how new
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>>126373559
All of RSI and leddit was full of people who were complaining about the Freelancer now 'ruling' AC.

Which implies that they were unhappy with this change, which in turn implies they were happy with the Shornet shitting on everything and everyone in AC since forever.
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>>126373105
I'm not sure what the Avengers hardpoints are now, but doesn't it have 2 fixed size 2 plus the nose gun? I'm not sure how else you'd want gimbaled weapons to be controlled, really. Personally, I am not even a fan of gimbaled weapons, but there is nothing to stop you from using a mouse to aim the gimbals while using the stick to fly.

Also, even though I think the Freelancer whining is overblown, it is kinda fucked up that the Connie, which is larger and has more cargo space, and is better armed, is also more nimble.
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>>126374026
>muh millennium falcon
>muh space superiority fighter

Conniefags are literally worse than hitler
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>>126373901
all those people will get sucked out and die when I shoot it
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>>126372930
>1240 cruise
What the fuck.
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>>126373957
>Theres 4 front seats, surely the one on the right is the co-pilot and one of the rear is engineer.
In a universe where logic and common sense work, yes.

In a universe where RSI designs DASHBOARD and places barely visible blue holoshit in front of that blueish background, the right hand seat has no stick and is occupied by the flight engineer.

I didn't draw that pic to troll, or because I was outraged or upset, or to piss off the hornetfag bogeyman that is so popular around here.
I made that simply because the cockpit design is a fallback to the bad first Freelancer, wastes screen real estate with useless DASHBOARD and ROOF and badly placed screens.
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>>126374026
gimbals control just fine until a contact appears and then it gets stuck.

>nothing to stop you from using a mouse to aim the gimbals while using the stick to fly.

EXCEPT I ONLY HAVE TWO HANDS AND I USE A THROTTLE AND CR SAID CONTROLLER AGNOSTIC AHHHHHHHH
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>>126374104
If anything the Freelancer is the Falcon.
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>>126374145
Hello, newfag
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>>126374156
old screen shot. it's cruise speed is 1085 now.
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>With space for the largest possible set of container types, the properly equipped Hull E can carry everything from iron ore to passengers to fully functional spacecraft!
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>>126374292
The majority of the best players on the leaderboard use fixed guns, rather than gimbaled guns, for what it's worth. Right now the weapon size system means that if you have fixed weapon mounts, you're typically better off NOT gimbaling them.
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>>126374472
the Connie was literally designed to look like the the early concept falcon
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>>126374635
I think I've seen the spacecraft containers. It's not necessarily a carrier, but it has ships in cages for shipping.
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>>126374803
except I can't change the Avenger nose gun out so mouseniggers have a free advantage. You're just going in circles

anyway I think SQ42 will have good cutscenes, story, and animations and will be pretty fun killing stupid Vanduul but I have little faith SC won't be unfucked for years at least. The basic functionality and networking are going at a glacial pace let alone balancing and PvP
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>>126374872
Which seems to be what the corellian corvette turned out to be.
Which is unsurprisingly more like the connie than the falcon.
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>>126375025
here's a hint, the Avenger sucks for mouse players, too

avenger just sucks
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>that one faggot who absolutely -must- push the idea of removing gimbals
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>>126375160
Can you quote who you mean instead of being passive aggressive

Fucking Angela level
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>>126375160
>that one faggot that vehemently defends IM mode
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>>126375160
mousefag here, i don't like the way gimbals are implemented and i've seen good ideas for making them better. i'd prefer that they were changed to handle convergence or some other shit

that said, it still sounds like that guy crying about gimbals on the avenger is just bad and can't fucking hang.
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>>126375160
I just want them to fucking fix basic bugs so I can actually use them

and I proposed exactly what they're doing over a year ago. Like it's so hard to change the sensitivity curve to be similar to how the mouse uses them.
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>>126375160

It's a HOTAS babby, anon. Of course.

>MUH CONTROLLER PARITY
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>Mining organization has miners mining
>miners take ore to player controlled station
>station holds ore
>Hull D pilot comes about to take ore to Sol
>org hires other org for escorts
>escort has to fight off pirating orgs
>drop off cargo at Sol
>make mining org money

This is a perfect system. Organizations, if done right, will be fun as fuck. I want to generate as many missions as possible for my org to prosper :3 if I ever join one

Speaking of all of this, have their been confirmed depots that organizations can control and use? So, a mining org can stockpile tons of shit to offload to haulers?
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>>126375160
>defending casual shit
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>>126375384
never said anything about parity. You literally cannot control gimbals with joystick now because of the bug. And apparently they don't consider it a priority to fix either.

If I could control it, it would be pretty even or even better with stick. I think they added some spread and slowed the gimbals down a bit?

I tried mouseniggering a few months ago and it was just disgusting how easy it was to insta-kill someone by clicking around like csgo
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>>126375670
>it would be pretty even or even better with stick

Not even the best joystick pilot in the world can compete with a pointing device.

There is no such thing as controller balance.
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hotas whiners go back to RSI. better yet, go back to elite. you are shit at the game, that is why you get stomped in AC.

you will never be anything but fodder for good players
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>>126375771
>being a mousenigger

Shouldn't you be playing War Thunder arcade or something
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Here we go again with HOTAS and mouse arguing.

And holy shit, this thread was only 18 hours before bump limit.
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>>126375739
not when the guns aren't pixel accurate...energy weapons have plenty of spread now..Hitting people with your guns isn't really an issue anymore.

joystick feels much more natural for controlling your ship imo and you can easily return to center
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>>126375670
>never said anything about parity
>mouseniggering was just disgusting
>it would be pretty even or even better with stick

Nice try HOTAS babby.
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>>126375948
it used to be a problem but now the problem is mostly bugs not balancing
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>>126375852
you're just bad. get over it. majority of the players in the AC top ten use joystick setups with fixed weapon mounts. you're literally just bad at the game. no amount of controller whining will ever fix that.

it's cool because they aren't going to give the majority of the playerbase a shitty control scheme simply so that you can be a little bit more competitive. you will just have to get better at the game, or go back to elite. really sucks, doesn't it, scrub?
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>>126375771
except I was near the top of the leader boards you faggot

>>126376037
you braindead retard I am complaining because a bug is preventing the gimbals from even moving. They stop moving when you lock a contact with joystick.
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>>126376037
Nice projection there bud.

I'm perfectly competent at the game, that doesn't justify CIG allowing casual arcade shit to be an option.

Is there a more obnoxious playerbase then mouseniggers? literal BRs of Star Citizen.
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>>126376130
You're whining about "mouseniggers" having advantages on 4chan but you're actually a top player and NOT one of the crybaby shitters from the controller parity thread on RSI

sure thing buddy
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>>126376037
>AC top ten
>Using this as evidence of anything

ayyyyy
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>>126376226
I am complaining that CIG is incompetent and can't get basic shit working after over a year

>Star Marine delayed indefinitely

kek
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>>126376160
>I'm perfectly competent
>casual arcade shit

HOTAS babby keeps saying it's a bug as his excuse, but really he just hates that mouse can be used for a computer game. He's stuck in the 90s.
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Yay, I got a free gun from the referral program!

...

Aw fuck, I'm part of a pyramid scheme now.
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>>126376130
>except I was near the top of the leader boards you faggot

Gonna need to see some proof.
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How does it feel knowing that I play with a Microsoft Intellimouse that's like fifteen years old and I'm a lot better than you, even though you've spent hundreds of dollars on flight peripherals?

And that CIG will never, ever do anything to carry you? :)
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>>126376363
>He's stuck in the 90s

Probably a 40 year old grand wizard.
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>>126376429
sounds like a boring free to play game desu

I can use my cheap mouse too but it kills any enthusiasm I have for this game

>no click to kill
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>>126376363
>>126376429
13 year olds and/or NEETs detected.
I'm sorry I have disposable income to spend on my hobbies.
Maybe with the boxing day sales you can pick up a stick real cheap.

:^)
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>>126376363
it is a new bug introduced in 2.0
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/community/issue-council/star-citizen-alpha/SC-4877-Sticky_Gimbals_in_Joystick_Look_Ahead_Mode_while_target_is_on_screen

eat shit you dumb idiot
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>>126376614
>KWAutists are stickniggers

Of course.
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>>126376614
Congratulations on getting owned by 13 year olds, lmao
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>>126376724
nah, I'm pretty sure they are all underage and can't afford one.
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>>126376429
How the fuck is yours still working? I used to burn through one a year back when they were available.
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>>126376786
I just ask my mom to buy it desu
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New Christmas bread when?
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>Freelancer babbies still upset
>They bought a ship, and because it was the one they owned, they assumed it was some kind of space superiority vessel.
>No one at CIG had even suggested it was anything but a space truck with guns.
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>>126377350
>he copypasted from Reddit

see

>>126320324


>>126377397
>only freelancer owners hate shitter hornets

Nice box you're living in, son.
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>>126377350
>mfw Avenger goes 350/545 in SCM

if I wasn't blacking out constantly normally, this might've been fun
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Everybody who plays AC in 2.0 hates the Hornet right now for the simple fact that it's bugged as shit in a way that makes it completely broken.

After it takes damage it actually gets faster. It's fucked up.
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>>126377484
>>only freelancer owners hate shitter hornets
Implying implications desu senpai.
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>>126377241
>Freelancer is smaller than a Constellation, and has half the propulsion
>Constellation has 3 times more mass
>Constellation turns better and is termed as space superiority
>Freelancer is termed by RSI and Reddit as a bus/truck/airplane
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>>126377647
>After it takes damage it actually gets faster. It's fucked up.

Every ship does that, turbonerd

>What is mass
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EytSKRg8ulQ

Around the Ben
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>>126377667
>my image implies something else

My eyes are lying, then?
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https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15136-Star-Citizen-Alpha-21-Available

wat
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>>126377821
Not your eyes, your low functioning brain that interprets it to mean only freelancer pilots hate hornetniggers. Show me where it says that anywhere on it, oh wait you can't because it doesn't. I could go make an image about gladius pilots crying about hornetniggers right now and it doesn't contradict the Freelancer version, they're not mutually exclusive. And right this moment the loudest whiner about hornetniggers in SCG is freelancer retards that thought they were a space superiority ship. There you go, I spelled out for you why you're a retard.
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>>126378150
Welp.
Time to rename the test folder I spent all day yesterday downloading.
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>>126378180
>t. Hornet Nigger Alliance
>together we shall deny every ship that isn't a Constellation or Hornet the right to kill anything
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>>126377767
lol uhhh, no, not really.
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>>126377350
Would be nice if they could tell us a rough ballpark for how fast they want each ship going.
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>>126378589
Several are though. Currently, the first thing every Mustang racer should do is slam their ship into the ground to break off the landing struts for exta speed
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Should I?
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>>126377702
But it costs a hundred dollars more, so it makes perfect sense that it flies better, has more weapons, more cargo, better view, and an entire baby space ship. But don't you dare call the game pay2win.
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>>126378492
Are you stupid or something? The Freelancers S3s are still good.

>>126377780
Nyx preview is great

>>126378150
oh shit
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>>126379297
yes
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>>126379071
Right, but you realize that it's more pronounced on the Hornet? It's faster than a Gladius just spawning in (because bug) and then it gets even faster.

I don't believe in the Hornet boogeyman. The ships were much better balanced before everything went upside down in the buggy mess that is 2.0, and they will be better balanced again.

I'm also not going to freak out about the flight model of the Freelancer vs the Constellation yet, because I think Connie pilots are going to be really fucking pissed when their ship has its mass fixed, too.
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>>126379297
Yes
Banu is cool
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>>126379297
Buy the 0 dollar Redeemer to merchantman ccu instead. Then sit in the token till the ship is closer to being finished.
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>>126375025
>mouseniggers
That has to be the best meme ever when it comes to the avenger.

Here's a hint: I play with a fuckign mouse, and I'd like nothing so much as to NOT be forced to gimbal fucking everything.
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>>126379575

Then fly something else.
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>>126379575
This is cool with me. I think that all weapon mounts should be fixed, and it should be up to the player to decide if he wants smaller gimbaled weapons or larger fixed guns.

The system's fucking designed for that from the ground up, yet we still have a handful of ships with stupid specialty mounts.
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>>126379297
Welcome to the space Jew master ship race
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I sent in a concierge ticket earlier today, why the fuck haven't they resolved it yet?
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>>126379879

>>126379879

>>126379879
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I'll make new bread
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>>126308424
The gifting is done and everyone is happy. Next up is the dinner with my parents, my brother and the rest of the family. I don't know why, especially thanks to the org shitposting.

But I wish everyone here a merry Christmas, even if you can't celebrate it with those you love.

Except for Hornet fags. Fuck you and your orbital overlord, Ben Fatnick. May he die a fat induced death.
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>>126379849
>he thinks concierge tickets get answered in less than 3 weeks
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>>126379457
I think part of the SH/gladius speed difference is that the SH is marked as having high end engines, while the gladius is set as using low grade shit. Things will change a lot when ever they finally let us change out engine and thruster components.
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>>126379960

see

>>126379948
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>>126379652
But I like my spess penguin.
I just want it to be decent, and not shit.

Also, I want to be able to fly small ships with a stick, and bigger ships with M+KB.
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>>126377780
These tiny ships are pretty good, can't wait to see someone do a shmup with them.
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>>126380886
Yeah, I just can't see taking the helm with a hotas, especially when maneuverability isn't an issue. Perfectly content with using one for smaller ships. There's just something about the freelancer that makes me want to get a yoke, though that would be awful for combat
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>>126370468
Yes, indeed, I guess these scammers at GIC have a good team of fake youtubers!
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>>126370468
>that race
Now that's podracing. I was just making fun of some of the comments you can see on youtube videos, I think it was on the constellation tacticool hunting video.
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>>126349197

Where is this from?
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>>126363332
Fuck that was awesome
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How do I apply the F7A upgrade?
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>>126354330
>>126354362
Also Klaus&Werner might be German, Maybe.
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