/civ4xg/ - Civilization and 4X Games General

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Roll (no halflings)

>>126297502

Reroll

>>126297502
roll

I got Endless Legend but I'm not really feeling it. I'm thinking of getting a refund and just sticking to Civ V, but what the fuck would I spend the steammunnies on?

Hopefully it doesn't stay too ded

>>126296256
anyone want to start a multiplayer game of civ v

>>126299793
You could wait a bit and hope some interesting mod comes out. Or try something interesting that you haven't done. Poke around the settings, make a custom faction, whatever floats your boat. Custom factions can actually make things more interesting; if done right.

I dont think you'll be able to get a refund for EL from steam. Last time I read up on their support each hour you accumulate on a bought game only increased the likelihood of them refusing your refund request..

Is Civ IV BTS the pinnacle of the civ series?

>>126308585
It was just approved, thank you based gaben.

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>Not playing Master of Magic all day
Fuckin' WAR BEARS

>>126320407
Dude, just go to /domg/, you're gonna have a ball.

>>126321450
It felt more civ to me but I guess I'll do that.

>100 turns of a Golden Age

Fuck Persia is fun.

Will a pirate version of Rising Tide work with the base game?

>>126331968
It worked for me and all the DLCs of Crusader Kings 2.

So probably. Let me know how it improved the base game.

Dead games, dead threads.

Why is this general so dead?

>>126312352
civ 2 was the pinnacle

>>126335501
>>126335253
we have nothing to talk about, nothing is coming out, and it has been slowly dying for months.
the better idea would be to die gracefully or go somewhere else

>>126338359
But I like it in here.

I tried to let a friend try out Endless Legend via the family sharing thing.
Apparently it needs some third-party bullshit or something, but I don't recall ever needing to do anything like that. What should I do?

>>126297502
Roll

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Xth for Aurora, best 4x in the history of gaming.

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>>126349437
>human
>holy terra
>clearly helghast

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LORD CIV4X

RISE

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>>126351607
>implying Helghast isn't the best pic for the type of backstory i roleplay with ( custom solar system with deadly planet inhabited by the refugees fleeing genocidal aliens that destroyed Earth )

>>126338182
Civ 2 was shit.

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I really appreciate how modders work to totally transform Civilization V


Finally upgraded from a decade old CPU to an i5 and I can actually play giant Earth games tolerably now. Too bad the AI is just too dumb to take advantage of maps that big
Anyone recommend any real world maps outside of the ones in YNAEMP?

>>126358463
Why anime lad, why anime

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I think the Roving Clans are a bad influence on these guys.

>>126359795

They must think you're a chum

I'm Irish, and sometimes I like to play as England on an Earth map and colonise the world, making sure my little buddy Ireland has plenty of food + multiple food cargo ships.

Do we like city-builders? /cbg/ proper can't keep a thread going past thirty posts.

I just bought banished and I don't know WHAT the fuck to do

>>126361036
Neither can this thread

>>126297502
roll

>>126361431
this board needs fifteen pages
didn't it used to have fifteen pages?

>>126365427
there's no point to having pages if shit threads can't be pushed off desu

yo anyone ever play thea: the awakening? seems interdasting

>>126365427
There just isn't traction with these kinda games as much anymore. I remember when this thread moved fast and was exciting and now it's lucky to get maybe 20 replies and usually half those replies are "is endless legend worth it?" I wish it would go back to being good, but it won't and it'll die frequently and dissolve into obscurity.

>>126366637

It's largely because Beyond Earth bombed and Civ 5 is old stuff now

>>126367215
>because Beyond Earth bombed
At least the memes were fun.

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>>126368195

>>126368195
More than the game, for sure

>>126312352
IMHO, yes

>>126297502
Rollin'

>>126296256
A little Endless Legend chat, I've only played a game up to turn 120 and the lack of documentation for this game gets to me every time. I have no idea how well I ought to be doing, and the game's custom setting means that I can't make a good inference to my progress. Artillery by the year 1600 AD is something I can understand as being excellent progress, but palladium by turn 100? What the hell is palladium? Does anyone else run into this problem while playing?

>>126369081
Only back when I played my first few games or when I upped the AI difficulty.

>>126369081
Well how do you know artillery by 1600 AD is good?
Because you played the game enough to know that.

>failing warmonger is on 2 cities
>somehow still keeps pumping an infinite amount of units out
>he can't get on my land
>he can't capture my coast cities with naval units
>i keep killing every unit he puts near my cities
>i haven't lost a unit
>he's lost probably 100s now
>he still refuses to negotiate peace

>>126370595
Not that anon, but I think his point is that he has a historical frame of reference. Which is silly to bring up in a sci-fantasy game, but whatever.

>>126372570
It's more important to compare yourself to your opponents than some kind of historical quota

>>126329231

I had a pretty fun persia ICS game. Though, their UU is pretty crap. You can sometimes get a situational use of it by putting it inside a city state and having it in rough terrain with cover and have it tank up levels. You can only farm one unit at a time like this, you get +4 exp per turn I would guess?

>>126374340
I could have kept using it. but I had already won at that point.

Yeah Immortals do suck.

>>126375236

Actual warmongers have a way faster rate of xp gain, and even for being able to relatively peacefully gain exp its a bad investment.

Just all around bad unit. I thought chariots were bad for egypt, but dear god was I wrong. If you can get them out before walls/archer they can actually rush a nearby civ down

>>126374059
>>126372570
>>126370595
>historical frame of reference

Yeah, this was basically my argument. The game takes it on faith that you can figure out the marketplace, that you know how many heroes you need, and half a dozen other systems before getting into the radically different benchmarks expected for each civilization. Should I trust my governors to automate production? How much should I be investing in my empire plans? The wikis are fucking awful.

>>126301146
>>126340696
The thread is struggling, no doubt about that. However we all love 4x games right?

Keeping the thread alive is for the aforementioned love of the 4x. Even if the posts are shit, at least we have a place to talk about how Ghandi is preparing for thermonuclear war. Or how EL still doesnt have naval warfare.

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>>126378380
Post some 4x then

>>126348106
Tell them to come over and play a round. Or tell them to pirate it and try it out

>>126361036
Banished is pretty fun. The trick is to always monitor the city resource panel thing. Keep things like food, clothing, wood/stone at high levels. Place things strategically, for example, hunting cabins are great... if they're placed a little ways into those dense forests. Otherwise you'll get less out of them. Invest in a school immediately. It'll help speed your workers up in the long-run.

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>>126378526
Okay um how about I post this picture of the custom map I made for having fun on Deity.

>>126375909
the governors are ok to automate at first but once you get familiar with the mechanics you'll want to minimax everything.
I generally put as much as I can into empire planning unless I need the influence for something specific, like if I am Cultist and I'm converting stuff a lot. Empire plans are always worth it IMO. I either boost my strong point or try and compensate for a weakness with it.

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Alright /civ/ what are some must have mods for V?

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>>126379972
I have no idea what is this
>tfw Civ 4 player

What happens if you run out of Dust in EL? I'm interested in playing with the faction creator and seeing if you could cut Dust entirely.

>>126379972
>No salt
>Wheat on grassland instead of floodplains
>Few early production tiles to get Petra (which is what I assume you're going for with all those desert hills)
>Academies have to be put on desert hills which won't give you any food until petra
>No duplicate luxuries to sell
>Ugly looking river

>>126385801
You will have any dust-using units deleted to mitigate going into negatives. If you're still negative, I believe your cities will suffer greatly next.

>>126385971
I never finished this map. Someone else also had those same objections the first time I posted this screencap :^) Thanks anyways m8. Maybe I'll go back and fix it one day.

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>>126381327
Honestly it depends on how you like to play. If you want some fun try:

Enlightenment Era
JFD's Exploration continued
JFD's Piety & Sovernity
More luxuries

These should add to your gameplay without fucking too many things up. Dont download that community balance patch though. You dont need it nor is it required.

>>126297502
roll

>>126297502
reroll

>>126381327
If you want a different experience you can check out the Community Balance Patch. It's not on the Workshop, but it completely retools happiness and city-state diplomacy, reworks every Civ to have 1 building/improvement and 1 unit, and rebalances the social policy trees to be very competitive with each other.

>>126381327
I've just started modding recently myself. I think everything JFD does is pretty good. You should try the community balance patch, I think it gives the game much needed tweaks and an overall fresh feeling. Just be careful that the mods you add don't cause imbalance in the game, that's the struggle I'm having so far with 50+ mods.

You could try what >>126387225 recommended, but along with it:

Sukritact's Events and Decisions
Mercenaries
Info Addict
More luxuries deluxe
Really Advanced Setup
Emigration (haven't tried it yet but seems cool)
No XP cap from fighting Barbarians

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>>126297502

Roll. Hoping for no Halflings... Also no fucking seal victory.

>civ 5 roulette 404

Someone be my roulette

Also is age of wonders 3 worth 9 yuros on steam?

>>126394614

Goblin Arch Druid. Never played either. Should be fun.

Skipping the water element tho cause ive had to much of it and it kinda sucks

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>>126394931

I think AoW3 is VERY fun. But it's much more action orientated than any of the other games discussed here.

The fun comes from all the massive amount of content. No two games are the same since the combinations for armies are more or less endless with all the dozens of summons, neutral dwellings etc. etc.

It's more or less a dumbed down 4XG for the people who like to play around with hundreds of different unit types in a fantasy setting.

>>126369081
>A little Endless Legend chat,
if you need to compare to see if you're doing alright, use the score chart breakdown. you'll see whos ahead in what, and that will give an idea of where you are.
and your analogy is valid, you dont know when you should be having palladium, because the way EL works, you could completely skip it if you wanted to. titansteel is a valid replacement and even then, you could skip the techs for the both of them, and save on 1-4 researches

score is going to be your best metric, and then, plan on a city every empire plan. if you're even at a city every other empire plan after a few of them, you're still doing fine

>>126375909
the real problem is, the tutorial is slightly terrible. you already know how to play the game, you just havent realized it yet
FIDSI isn't different than civ5's city management by much at all. "oh, i want to have a tall city quick, i better settle by these wheat and bananas" settle on a river grassland, and use workers toward food. industry is just shields, dust is gold, you get it. the real advantage is you can convert cities to one or another production later in their life easily, by building new buildings and moving the workers.

its not exact by a wide margin, but presume (early) food > industry > dust > science > influence > (late) food
broken lords quickly put dust before industry, and cultists instantly put influence above that all.
heroes are a whole different thing based on your dust production, but ideally you have one for every city, and pretty quickly, you shouldn't need governors managing for you.

empire plan is going to be different for each race, but use it logically. broken lords dont need to up their unfluence so they can get +food empire plan. roving clans dont really need to make their war better, when they're never going to be at war. just think of the empire plan, as a way to focus on a FIDSI you want, and that might help you decide

ayy
how are you guys still alive?

>>126401739
Every now and again an anon bumps the thread. Sometimes we even get some discussion going!

Are Necrophages the rush faction in EL?

>>126402597
Not in my experience. Their units are pretty fragile early on and their military power requires a ton of dust in upkeep.

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What other 4x I can play with interesting characters and that will make me feel powerful? I tried Endless Legend but after 8 hours I realized I didn't like it.

Civ series I have already played a lot.

page 10

>>126403281
AoW maybe

>>126406971
I'll give it a try, I think I saw it earlier in this thread. I like the elves and dwarves and shit

>>126403281
Are there any more comics like this? I know the artist but it's not on his website.

>>126409862
>Are there any more comics like this?
No, because I didn't like the game much so I gave up on doing more.

>>126403281
>I tried Endless Legend but after 8 hours I realized I didn't like it.
what parts did you hate?

I'm looking at gameplay right now and I guess I can sort of see how exploration is not a huge focus since the scope is smaller. I love how the land is separated in provinces/states though.

>>126410320
I love you anyways lendo

Is there a point at which a city's borders are too large to buy new tiles?

>>126411990
You can't buy tiles more than 3 tiles from the center.

>>126411412
Thanks ;_;
What games are you playing these days btw, I want to try new stuff.

Is the Dust victory in EL viable? The Dust requirements seem ridiculously high.

>>126417127
Go Dosh lords

>>126418753
I assume Roving Clans just dont cut it?

>>126419309
Nah, I just like the Broken Lords.
Honestly every victory type is manageable at lower difficulties. Just get a lot of cities via settling/conquest and then build dust buildings and you will be all set for the Dust victory.
Also, if you're worried about the dust requirements, it might be good to know that the requirement is for the total dust produced over the course of a game. You can spend all the dust you want and still win.

>>126416202
Well of course.
We die, we die, and we die again.

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>pick random civ
>mfw Egypt

>>126402597
In a way, but they can become a medium/late game powerhouse with a good general and proliferators.

>>126402597
>>126403124
>>126432172
they're more of a snowball. you dont have to rush, but you do need to do military early, and you need to win it. that military combat can be entirely neutral factions and quests though. like other anons said, they sortof mid/late game, but if they dont do good mid, their late is shit. their units arnt that strong, so really, if you start losing battleborn and prolifers early, you arnt going to get going again easily

The thing that bothers me the most in EL is the low amount of units per faction. Is there a mod that remedies this?

>>126439503
Yes. It is called using the unit designer and equipping your units and assimilating minor factions.

>>126440083
I meant more in the way of faction specific units.

>page 10

>>126412561
Well, I'm trapped in the hype machine for Total War: Hammer, but I've had fun with Human Resource Machine lately.

>>126442145
shh... Just believe

What's the TLDR of Civ 4 vs Civ 5 these days with all expansions?

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>>126403281

Yeah go AoW3. It's fun albeit a way more arcadey form of 4x than the Civ games.

Still, depending on map size and victory conditions, games can take a long time to finish. My main gripe is probably that the amount of time it takes to tech up to Top Tier units is not relative at all to the amount of time it takes to conquer the entire map (which takes ages). But on the plus side, there's dozens of exploring to do, more than any other 4x game.

How to cultists?

>>126406971
>>126403281

Just make sure to play aggressively, if you play it like a 4X and turtle up before you attack your enemy will have three and a half armies at each city. It's the game's one big flaw imo.

But yeah, the heroes are great, it's a lot like Master of Magic or Heroes of might and magic if you've played that, you can fight as a unit, which you can arm with magic items and level how you want, plus you can fling down spells into battles or on the map. Good variety of classes and races, I usually play a goblin sorcerer, supplementing my fragile swarm darters and meh high tier units with phantasm warriors and beholders. The rogue can literally pimp out "courtesan ambassadors" to improve relations with neutral cities and keep friendly ones in an iron grip for more gold but their units aren't as good, the dreadnought has crappy spells overall but can build cannons and golems etc.

>>126402597

I usually attack another race as soon as I run out of delicious minor factions to eat. Especially once they get proliferators your economy is violence based.

>Never liked managing more than several cities, one is ideal
>get EL
>discover Cultists
Today is a good day. On another note, is there a special way one plays Ardent Mages? They look cool, but I feel like I'm pretty shit with them.

>>126456282

Build cities with the towers' radius in mind and use them often. A city with a cul de sac in the middle you can stick a science tower is great!

>>126456282
they're just a normal faction, rather than SCIENCE the way lords are DUST
their big difference (other than pretty much needing a good minor unit) is that they have to build their cities retarded, so they can get the best out of their pillars.
unlike other factions, you're not going to be spending dust on buildings, but on pillars. mid/late game, best case senario you have as many as you fucking can, and your city looks retarded

>>126457267
>>126457194
Oh I guess that makes sense. I hadn't thought about building around pillars. Is it possible to have higher level districts then if I'm building around towers, or will pretty much everything be level 1?

>>126457831
you can have two, i think theres an actual pattern on the wiki or forums.
honestly though, the same way a pyramid city is only slightly better than a line city, and only late in the game, a pillar city isn't that much better than a line city with pillars

if you want to be lazy, just put a line city with two kinks in it, going the same direction. and space between the kinks for pillars

>>126458392
Oh ok, gotcha.


Thanks guys

Would it be admirable to win as Spain at Deity?
I'd kinda hate to see people hatin because i managed to settle on a Natural Wonder. I mean, it's the whole point of the civ, and it's not always easy or next door.

>>126459154
Who cares.
Exploit those wonders, if RNG is gonna bless you then so be it.

Do I want to slightly distort my city layout to incorporate anomalies?

>>126459435
I know i shouldn't care, but if i manage to actually win Deity i'd like to make it count, and not have some random asshole say "that's EASY if you get +16 faith per turn".

No shit it's easy if i get there, but i actually have to get those wonders and get them fats to make their bonuses worth their while.

I really like Endless Legend, is Endless Space worth getting or is EL noticeably improved to the point there's no reason to play ES?

>>126462115
EL is pretty much improved in every way. ES has some nice lore in the flavor texts but that's it.

Mayhap wait for ES2.

>>126462115
If you like Sci-fi ES might be worth it.
You might just want to wait for ES2 though.

For Christmas I want /civ4xg/ to not die

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My dad's favorite game/series is Civ, he's been playing it consistently since Civ II. It's pretty much all he does some days. He suggested maybe playing a co-op game sometime once the Steam drama dies down.

Does anyone have any good recs for him? He's not big into shooters or RPGs, so I'm having difficulty finding anything he might enjoy.

>>126474420
all we know is he likes civ and dislikes shooters and rpgs

play civ or an endless game with him?

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>>126474420
Distant Worlds

If he likes customizing his shit he can custom make his own ships/bases/nations etc in the game. Nice space setting

>>126474805
do absolutely not do this, it's the most autistic space game ever made

>>126475146
that would be aurora...

What would a porn 4x game be like? How would it be different from things like the Civilization or Endless series?

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>when your conquest campaign is ended because Pocatello spam-spawns Comanche Riders while you're still researching Gunpowder

>>126450248
Expanding on this one, the Warlord gets the best economy because he pays next to no upkeep and can instantly get max rank on his units (lots of fun with units that "evolve" with experience like spiders or cavalry->knights). Archdruids play Pokemon and gotta catch all the wild animals. Necromancers have shit for economy but can basically operate without cities at all when the skeleton snowball starts rolling. Theocrats can lay down some serious smiting, with Paladins that refuse to quit and a literal Ark of the Covenant to go around melting faces.

Races are fun if boilerplate. Dwarves like armor and defense, elves are ranged masters and get a bit of lightning damage, Orcs are all about fightin' an' winnin', humans up their production and are great sailors, goblins are cheap and give out poison like goddamn candy.

Halflings are fun because they're "lucky" and attacks occasionally miss them completely. But morale effects them way more heavily than other races, and they'll fall to fucking bits if you force them to fight anywhere that ain't rolling grassy hills. They also get chefs/Party Golems that wear aprons and serve picnics.

Draconians heal fast, Tigrans ARE fast and are bloodthirsty little furballs, and Frostlings will freeze your entire army.

My tip though is to ignore settlers and city building for the most part and stick to Fortresses instead. They only cost 100 gold, put out your domain around them can be upgraded, and give you whatever gold/mana/science that's there. Plus you can always go back and plop a city inside the fort if there's a lot of hammers or happiness around which gives you free walls around the city.

Never understood the people that treated it just like Civ or EL and set the game up to have deathstacks and carpet the map with cities.

>>126481015
>warlord
>"his"

I'm sorry, his or hers. There's a huge amount of customization in AoW3 for a strategy title, and you get to craft your leader's appearance like it's an RPG. You also pick from a few magic specializations that add whole new dimensions to your strategy. My favorite has to be the Grey Guard mastery, which forces you to play like a sadistic bureaucrat trying to stay karmatically neutral.

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I made a thing.

>>126485714
I only play on Archipelago when I'm playing online so none of my friends can ever pick the nigger.

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Why is it that I cannot, for the life of me, manage wide / ICS in BNW? If I'm playing tall or if I'm going full-Autocracy I have absolutely no issues, but if I'm not aiming for a Domination victory my wide empire inevitably crumbles, from a lack of resources or from outside invasion.

What is the secret to playing wide?

>>126487884
playing for fun

>>126487884
Civ V is specifically designed to discourage playing wide. It's certainly possible to pull off, but it's much harder than building tall and you WILL eventually hit a stopping point where expanding further will do more harm than good.

The alternative to going full-on Autocracy is doing a Sacred Sites playthrough, where you'll often just win the game outright before your expansion runs out of steam. Otherwise, focus on grabbing as much sources of happiness as you can possible muster: Policies, religion, buildings, you simply can't have enough happiness when going wide.

>>126488015
>>126488303
Thank you for the advice. I'm mostly just happy to know that there's not something specifically wrong with me (besides that I play on Settler 6) and that the game's mechanics make playing wide a struggle.

Does EL still have no option to disable simultaneous turns with the AI? I'd love to pick it up but that was the thing that pissed me off to no end in ES.

>>126486767
>not niggering with amphibious promotions on archipelago

>>126490862
I'd just play as the Vikings then.

>>126487884
ICS needs very specific playstyles with very specific goals. It can get tedious as you are fine tuning many many cities rather than like 5 or so.
Wide however can just mean early expansion. I find 8-12 cities shitted out before medieval then barely any more from that point (on huge maps) works really well.
Open liberty, beeline collective rule, then go piety and try to pick up a good reformation. From there its either finish liberty, piety or go for protectionism.
Domination, Cultural or Diplo victories. Science if you somehow get 12 mountains or something or are playing Korea/babbylon/inca/polan.

>>126490905
Nigger no. Songhai or shaka. Songhai comes equipped with amphibious from the get go and shaka does shaka things. Vikings aren't cool enough to roll with the big nigs.

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Is it possible to win with Theodora? Not even the AI can win.

>>126491774
multiplayer where a religion isn't nigh impossible to get.
>not going full ham

>>126491774
on settler? yeah
otherwise, mods fix everything yo

>mighty meek on draconian flamer
>enemy repeatedly clusters units together

>mighty meek on goblin darter
>wall bonus with flanking bonus

Mighty meek feels like cheating.

What's your favorite bullshit AoW3 tactic?

>>126497982
Man, my favorite bit of cheese has to be grabbing Air Adept on Dreadnought and casting Seeker on musketeers and cannons.

Hey, has anyone here seen Madmac's writeups for AoW3? I really fell in love with this game through the Something Awful community and there's been an awesome thread on the game. Big part of it was the fact that one of the game developers (Gerblyn there, and I think Tombles on the O.F.s) was a regular poster, and the other reason was the efforts of a dude named Madmac. He hosted a Goon Tournament this past year and wrote up an awesome guide for the game going through every class, race, spell sphere, everything. I'm rereading it, and could dump the text here if there's interest. Should at least keep the thread on the board.

>>126495202
I have won on Emperor with the Byzantines.
It sucked, and I haven't been able to do the same on higher levels.

>>126499880
imo, them, and hiawatha are really the only two i feel need a mod to be not... retarded

>>126497982
Man, remember when Dwarves got gold for digging out walls? That was fun for a while.

Anyone have the Endless Legend roll chart?

>>126502215
I would add the Danish on there too.
Fuck they are shit.

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>>126505816
I don't have the one that has Forgotten in it.

>>126507719
is there a mod that makes them legit?

>>126508091
Thanks anon.
Roll.

>>126358463
What mod?

>>126508091
logically just replace random with forgotten. randomly rolling for random, doesn't need to be that random

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post your mains

>master race Washington here

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So I'm strongly considering FE:LH. I absolutely love Age of Wonders 3, as well as Stardock's other games like GalCiv2 and 3. However, I played a bit of Endless Legend and didn't care much for it (mostly thought the factions were silly/odd and the combat sucked), and I also find the Civilization series to be a bit boring. Should I pick this up? Also these two DLC for GalCiv3, are they okay for the price or is there a serious issue with them that I should avoid?

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>>126511658
wu zetian, but honestly, any civ with an early building replacer i end up liking
small bonus early > decent bonus later. but even then paper maker bonus isn't that small

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The lulz is strong here. Greece has had a revolution every turn for 10+ turns now, cycling between Freedom, Order and Autocracy. For those who need a reminder, when you change ideology you produce nothing for 5 turns - no gold, science, culture, etc.

It's just like real life.

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Guys, is there any mod for Civ5 similar to Civ4's Rheys and Fall of Civilization yet?

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>>126511658
Byzantines stronk!
Justinian and Theodora 4 lyfe.

does anyone know where can i download old civ4 mods, im looking for ryse and fall's modmod civilizations in abundance particulary

>>126518252
http://civfanatics.com/civ4/downloads
http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=158

>>126518385
links on civfanatics are all dead as is everything i found on google

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Who was the weirdest choice for a civ in the series:
HRE, Venice, Huns or Sweden?

>>126522864

Probably Venice or HRE.

Both Huns and Swedes you can track down to a specific cultural group of people.

HRE is a loose confederacy of feudal states. Venice is just a city state. Might as well include "Athens" instead of Greece.

>>126525276
Fully expect them add the Aborigines to Civ6 now.

>>126511658
SIAM
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>>126525276
It always bothered me as to why they didn't go with Austria over the HRE in civ4.

Star Ruler 2; yes or no?

>>126527589
Pirate it and see, i felt it was a worse game than SR 1.

I just cant like the economy system, or the research, or the fleets, or the resources.

But try it yourself

Is /4xg/ any good? It's free, but I'm not sure if it's worth my time.

What's the proper way to start with liberty? I do tradition fine all the time but every time I try starting off with liberty it ends in disaster.

im trying this CBP mod, played a few games already for about 100 turns each but im not digging it, do i just go back to vanilla? (i play online with 2 friends, so we cant use any other mod)

Ok I just purchased Endless Legend and all its dlc. I started playing and I'm by turn 23 as the broken lords. I have 4 population and I'm building my first burough. Any general tips and hints for someone who's only played civ 5 and BE?

I kind of want to smash all minor villages and turn them into my vassals.

>>126540398
Rather than buying a ton of pop in one city, you should settle many cities and buy the pop for cheaper in each. Of course, if you've got a mega city that will give you 13 dust/pop, then you might as well buy some more population there.

>>126540941
When you say 13 dust/pop, do you mean 13 dust for every 1 population? Just to make sure.

>>126531401
Scout well, pick out a fantastic spot for your second city and beeline the free settler. Make sure you pick up the Pyramids and the Oracle, use the tree completion bonus for a free Great Engineer and use it to rush a wonder (your preference here, but good ones are Petra, Hagia Sophia, Alhambra).

Wage wars and use your workers to help heal your units - they can repair pillaged tiles on enemy land in 1 turn with the worker boost from both Liberty and the Pyramids, which lets you pillage them again.

>>126542418
You can assign workers to a certain yield and there are building that will increase that yield. 13 dust/pop means each pop you put into dust output will yield 13 dust/turn