/edg/ - Elite Dangerous General

If Horizons goes on sale, will this discount stack with my -25% from already owning E:D?

>>126163357
LIMIED TIME OFFER

I just got a little too close to some metal rich planet while scanning and it said some shit about orbital flight. I thought this was Horizons only?

>>126163357
My guess is that it will remain so for first few hours, then get rolled back because FDev wants dem mad shekels and what they need right now is flood of "HOW DO I DOCK" stuffs.

Also calling it : Main game WILL get another sale and price might get lower than Black Friday sale. Looks like high time for another Eravate raid...

Ded gaem

Does combat rank total exp needs rise exponentially with the ranks? I'm only at competent and it's already sloooooow

>>126163401
Wait, the -25% discount is limited in time?
For real?

>>126163470
There wont be any discount for horizon on winter sale.

>>126163427
Since 1.5 you can do orbital flight with the base game. Can't get within 25km though.

>>126163867
So I can't land, in other words I can't crash trying it?

>>126163601
yes

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>>126163601
It's been a while since I go combat elite but if I recall correctly you need something around 90M profit for Elite rank. I made it in the good old days of lugh turreting.
>>126163734
Why do you doupt the Braben? His VISION is absolute and he only sees shekels.

>>126163897
Nah you just run into an invisible velvet rope.

>>126164002
How much exploration you need to reach elite?

>>126164076

go to wikipedia elite dangerous
http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Explorer

145 MILLION !

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>>126164076
145M according to the wiki. I don't have exploration elite rank myself.

>>126163357
Considering that Horizons is early access it most likely won't go on sale until it's actually released

>pick "hold onto this stuff for a while" mission
>fly around
>NPC spawns and asks me to deliver stuff to a planet
>I don't own Horizons
This upsets me

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>>126165292
>>126163752
>>126163734
There are so many ways for FDev to cuck Horizons buyers :
>Horizons Expansion Pack price has been lowered due to complaints. To compensate for your purchase, we gave you unique shitty skins. Right on commander ;^)
This is SO going to work. Look: Steam salefags are mad about Horizons price. And forumdads? You seriously expect them to be mad about it when some dad is buying 10 copies just to pad the review score?

>>126165392

you picked up a horizon mission

>don't call it a grave

>bounty is galaxy-wide
>can only pay it off in the same system
VISION?

>>126163149
So, why "Set power to Li-Yon Rui"? Is stuff cheaper in his systems or what?

>>126166164
Read his power description

>>126166164
That's right. You can look it up on his "stats" tab.

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post em boys

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>49 more jumps and then another 20 or so

>>126166703

I have 180 hours and am already tired of this game.

ED over the last year has gotten a lot more enjoyable to play. Frontier has fixed some quality of life issues, but mostly the community has stepped up with out of game tools that allow people to trade, group up, and coordinate. A common review of ED is that it is "a mile wide and an inch deep" which is not entirely inaccurate. My own feeling is that ED was a sandbox with nothing but sand. With Horizons, the depth of the game gets a buff. There is a wide variety of planetary bodies to land on with some absolutely stunning vistas to be seen. There are Points of Interest to be found on the planets and different kinds of bases that can be landed at, and for the homicidal, blown up a bit. If you want a space simulator, there isn't a better one out right now. You'll need a gratuitous dose of imagination to come up with compelling reasons to play after the first 100 hours or so. But 100 hours of gameplay is pretty damn good. I didn't get 10 hours of gameplay out of Tomb Raider.

tl;dr ED Horizons takes the game from a mile wide and an inch deep to several feet deep. I think its worth the price.

>>126167164

But they who wait for the Vision shall renew their strength; they shall mount up in wings like eagles; they shall trade and not be weary; they shall explore and not faint.

Braben 40:31

>>126167620
>I didn't get 10 hours of gameplay out of Tomb Raider.
What a silly comparison.

So how do you /edg/elords enjoy your cuckvision's 60 bucks expansion which content is yet to come ?

>>126168353
Probably more than SC spaceship for 3k bongbucks which will never come

>>126168659
well meme'd

>>126168353
I'll buy the next one, surely it'll include everything.

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>shields down
>enemy ship behind me
>start getting hits
>"CANOPY INTEGRITY CRITICAL"
5/5 netcode

>>126167620
>My own feeling is that ED was a sandbox with nothing but sand. With Horizons, the depth of the game gets a buff. There is a wide variety of planetary bodies to land on with some absolutely stunning vistas to be seen. There are Points of Interest to be found on the planets and different kinds of bases that can be landed at, and for the homicidal, blown up a bit.
You seem to be confused as to what depth actually is, having pretty visuals is not depth, allowing people to the same or similar shit as they can do in space is not depth. The game does not give you any reason do any of the new things in the game, the missions still have shit rewards and little to no narrative to make you want to do them, there is no incentive to be bothered to add ground bases to your trade routes, and exploration gets basically nothing. The game still has all the issues it did when it launched, it still has a thousand things for you to do and little reason to do them outside of curiosity or autism, and Horizon does little to address that and actually makes it worse in a lot of ways, to use your analogy, it doesn't add any more toys or tools to the sand box it just adds more sand.

>>126168353
Whine more, they aren't charging you per month to play, which would have cost you about 180 dollars at this point. You expect these people to work for nothing to keep updating this game? Paying some money once a year to keep these people employed and to keep the content flowing is a small price to pay to avoid monthly fees.

>>126170507
Not this shit again. Do you work for Frontier?

>>126170507
>they aren't charging you per month to play
No shit, there's nothing to charge for
If I wanted shitty space sim with nothing to do I'd play Starpoint Gemini 2

>>126170507
I though dads would be asleep. News flash, it's not anyone's responsibility but their own to keep them employed. I'm not obligated to pay them anything but what I think they deserve, if they want me to play their shit game, they're going to have to come at me with a better price. This is how the free market works and if you didn't have your head shoved up FD's ass you'd know that.

>>126170507
>Not this shit again. Do you work for Frontier?

exactly this
plus

FUCK YOU

>>126170507
You're the kind of person I imagine keeps paying for ships you can't fly yet in SC

>>126170746
Stay mad. Play the game or don't.

>>126170665
m8
That's a literal copypasta off the forums.

>>126170858
>>126170507
The shill is strong with this one.

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>low intensity conflict zone
>everyone with a thruster strapped to a tincan has plasma accelerators
>get constantly royally shitfucked because a nearby python puts me on his shitlist within a minute
>barely escape with the skin of my teeth and 40,000 of combat bonds every time
>resource extraction site of any type
>anyone who's wanted is flying a imperial clipper, federation corvette, python or anaconda
>anyone who's not flying one doesn't have a bounty
this keeps happening in every system I go
is levelscaling real or am I just being really unlucky?

>>126171274
That's literally free and fun credits

What is your ship?

>>126171274
The trick is to only attack things all read under fire if you are in a lower class ship. Wait for the cops to get the big ships shield down then pewpew the power plant

>>126171320
Viper Mk. IV
I'm the same dude from yesterday who asked for help in optimization. It's like ten hours after that and suddenly the difficulty goes up to eleven.

>>126171274
If you're not in a haz RES then condas are free 200k once the spess police see it.

>>126171142
Anon its okay to be mad, just turn the computer off and chill for a bit. If the game gets you that frustrated, it isn't worth it.

>>126171383
I've found out that the multicannons have bit of trouble hurting the powerplant through the armor plating of the python. What kinetic weapons are good for wrecking it fast?

why the cobra mkIII is such a pain in the ass to fly ? i'm using the xbox controller btw. Also it appears useless against most ships I encounter in dogfights.
>inb4 gitgudm8
>inb4 get a hotas

>>126171708
upgrade your ship

>>126171708
It is shit for combat. Cobra is pretty good for exploring and trading due to its low price.

>>126171274
I run into a lot of wanted Eagles in my local RES. However the tend to fly in squadrons of 3 and are fucking deadeyes with their unlim ammo railguns.

The pythons and condas are actually easier targets.

>>126170507
You were already told last time, why come back at it?

Type 6 or Dadbra to do some trading for a while?

>>126171685
Try going for a cannon or railgun. Railguns take a sec to charge the shot but they absolutely facefuck any subsystem

>>126171810
Is it better than a diamondback explorer for exploration?

>>126172215
Well no, any dedicated exploration vessel will be better. It's really only great because of the price tag.
I'm only rocking the Cobra because I don't feel like going back to civilzed part of the galaxy and buy something else.

>>126172401
Are there humans where you are?

>>126172646
As in players? Or NPCs and shit?

>>126172646
Not that Anon, but when I go exploring, I always buy a couple tons of slaves.

>>126172712
>drop slave pods on random planets 100mLy away

>last planet in system is almost 600,000Ls away

>>126173129
>It looks like an Earth-like planet.
>Hasn't been discovered by anyone else yet.

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I never played a space game but I want to play a space game


Should I buy this or Star Citizen?

>>126173268
There are almost no discovered system where I'm at. Not sure why but who cares, free money.

>>126173282
Well Elite Dangerous is actually playable, so there's that, but really you should buy neither, save your money.

>>126173512
Star Citizen at this point is a tech demo and that's the best description for ED too. There is less grinding in SC right now...

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>>126173282
if you want to go pewpew try Star Citizen as that is about all it has to offer atm.

If you want Eurotruck Simulator 3300 AD+ Pewpew buy the ED: Horizon as that gets you the main game and addon packs stuff that is coming

>>126173816
>There is less grinding in SC right now...
Well yeah, that's what happens when you can just pay real money for ships. SC right now is a bunch of pseudo-playable parts of a game, while ED is more of an actual game, though not by much, considering how many "game" features ED is missing. The point is both are shit and not worth spending money on at this point, unless you're the kind of person with more money than sense or into advanced boredom simulators.

>>126174035
>can just pay real money for ships
fucking dropped

>>126174361
For all ED faults (and there are many) at least we don't get discussions where people are discussing ship balance based on how much they cost in USD.

>>126175265
We could extrapolate based on grinding time required and the amount a given person makes per hour.

>>126175265
i don't hold the opinions of dads against the game itself, why hold the opinions of wallet warriors against the other game?

>>126174473
>>126175684
It'd be nice if someone took a screen shot from a planet that's above or below the Galactic Plane.

>>126175827
Wallet warrior=supporting jew

>>126175871
What?

>>126173981
>that shilling

Just picked the game up, doing alright but I'm missing something when I do a "Hold this item until someone in this system contacts you" and when I find the dude, he asks me to follow him then he vanishes and leaves a space imprint thing that I cant remember the name of at the moment.

What do? I appreciate the help in advance.

>>126177681
frameshift wake scanner

>>126177754
Ah gotta buy one of those and outfit it on my ship right? Thanks anon.

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>>126166703
V I S I O N B O Y S

>>126177681
Wake scanners are for high wakes only, don't listen to >>126177754

Target the low wake and approach it like you would a station or RES and drop into it. The npc will give you instructions once you do.

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>>126166703
I'm having fun

>>126178031
Awesome, thanks man.

Elite: Dangerous is a fucking retarded name.

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>>126173282
I own both. Wait for SC to go on sale again, pick it up for $30, and prepare to wait at least a year or two for an actual game. Don't spend any more money on it. As far as elite is concerned, get it when it goes on sale for $15 again, try the base game and see if you like it. The only thing horizons offers at the moment is some fun dune buddy antics and some really shallow crafting. Once FD introduces multicrew and module crafting, it might be worth it, but right now it really isn't.

This way you'll only spend $45 and feel superior to all the shitposters arguing about which game is better.

>>126178560
>module crafting
>module
Oh, anon. You're so cute. It's going to be more worthless crap like synthesis. Nothing worth the hours of effort involved to collect the materials.

>>126178560
That's what I've done, but you should never pay 60 bucks for content that should be a patch for this empty game.

>>126178560
>As far as elite is concerned, get it when it goes on sale for $15 again, try the base game and see if you like it.
I'd advise the same unless Horizons is on sale, as new customers who buy Horizons get the base game with it. No point buying just the base game then having to pay full retail price for the xpac.

>>126178821
Not really fair to say, considering what FD has mentioned. Materials are going to be found in space, not just on planets once they introduce this shit. This means you'll be able to get materials without spending time on planets. Modules are going to be craftable and/or moddable if what they have said in interviews are anything to go by. Granted, I can't say if the modules that get introduced will be useful, but neither can you. Crafting is a fucking waste of time right now because the rewards from it are temporary. Modules are permanent.

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>My review actually made it to the front of the store page on the helpful reviews

>>126179949
link pls

>>126180240
just mark as helpful any negative one and viceversa

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>>126180240
The store page or the review? Either way it's the third one down on the helpful reviews for Horizons on my page even when I'm logged out.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/419270

I was tired and bored and just did it to have something to do, and somehow I make it to helpful, I have no idea how even.

Go after ships with higher ranks. The rank of the ship you destroy matters more than the type

>mfw I'm tempted to buy Horizon just to rate it negative.

>>126180671
Maybe I'll get it when it's about 95% off, I got the "base" game for 12 bucks (not worth more) and I morally can't pay more 4 bucks for that joke.

I need help. How to grind the Fed rank quickly?
Is Tun still up?

>>126181714
Donation missions in 17 Draconis.

I need to buy an exploration conda and unleash my autism to the core.

I have 30mil an asp stripped of all the modules and a A rated pirate python (120-30 milions worth).

I need to earn 140 milions quickly, how is robigo now? should i buy a t7 and trade imperial slaves? or i should just farm hazres?

>>126182551
Robigo nets me 50-60 mil per run ( 15-20 missions), so I would say it's pretty fucking decent.

>>126182825
Didn't brabo nerfed it with huge loads of cargo?

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Holy shit, you need to try this.

>get friend with cobra
>land SRV on top
>he slowly ascends to 500m or more
>tilt cobra slightly nose up

You have an airborne jump ramp for your buggy.

>>126183749
>get friend
...oh

>>126182825
Also my rank is Broker, and im not allied with the robigo factions.
still worth it?

>>126183825
I'll be ur friend, anon.

>>126183749
my modules don't work in the near of any ship. what do?

>>126183749
>Horizons
>anyone to play with
pick none

>>126182962

yes

it's over now

>>126183957

rip

>uninstall

>>126182461
I guess no counterparts for Empire?

>>126184094

this, i want to know


also , how to rank up alliance?

>>126183996
You need to park the cobra near a hill and jump from it with boost. If you angel it right, you go through the module exclusion zone and land on top. Exclusion zone isn't there once he takes off.

>>126184191
>alliance

but why?

did they fix the thing where you could switch between open and solo to refresh the board?

>>126184380
Yes
they fixed everything
only VISION™ has left

>>126184380
>>126184490

>did they fix an exploit
>yes
>not exploiting is VISION

this meme is too retarded

>>126184675
>meme

>>126184675
The real problem wasn't that there was an exploit, it's that people only took missions because there was an exploit.

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>>126184490
>>126184675
>>126184797

>>126185121
>starports in asteroids
yes please

Should I rank grind the faction that I agree with the most, or should I rank grind for the ships that I want?

>>126185193
Grind for the ships you want.

>>126185121
>asteroid bases never
>they still have the exact same docking port anyway

zero G docking port would be interesting

Do you get more combat exp if you fly a lighter ship?

>>126185170
>asteroid bases will never not show up on scanners
>you will never have to follow patrols to find hidden bases like in freelancer

>>126181714
They fixed charity missions so that if enough are done they remove the BUST and FAMINE conditions in a local faction's economy. Tun's poverty didn't last a day with hundreds of people donating money at it.

>>126185530
>people can eat money

>>126183749
Cobra always looks to me like a larger ship that was sliced in half.

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>>126185575

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does /edg/ have a private group? I'm asking because I'm farming 17 Drac for feddie ranks. Switching from a bunch of private groups seems to refresh bulletin board still

>>126185812
famine means there is no food to buy

>>126185848
>/edg/
>private group
Most of use play in open, but if that works it might be worth making one.

>>126186024
I'm not even waiting 5mins between switching. I'm with 3 private groups so far and eveytime I switch and join I get about 5-7 charity missions.

>>126186009
money means they can buy food from other systems.

>>126186009
Excessive amounts of money means they can afford to import it.

>>126186154
then why don't they give missions to import food once the bust is gone?

Fuck federal agents

D-does anyone want to play with me?

>>126186242
Because that would mean players could get money.

>>126186340
No. Nobody wants you. You were a mistake.

>>126186340
I do.

But I'm at work

>>126186340
Y-Yes, sweetheart.

>>126186242
>>126186370
Would be nice if the Free Market would fix busts and famines. In a bust, market prices for consumer, mineral and industrial goods would be very low (25% less than normal) but would come back up if enough goods were purchased to increase demand. In a famine, food prices would be very high (500% normal) and go back down after the market had been flooded with food.

Players would look at what local economic conditions were and try to exploit them.

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>>126186782
>the free market will fix it

>>126186340
I'm new

>>126186785
Huh, I thought I was the only one who used cannons on a corvette.

>>126186340
Depends where in the galaxy you are at.

>>126186817
Actually in a game like this with generally unbiased market actors it totally would. Unfortunately FDev won't implement an actual working market economy, because they hate the idea of fun.

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>>126187209
Some forces might have an interest in seeing the famine continue, could be interesting to get missions to destroy shipments of food.

This is the kind of dynamism he was talking about but we can't get for some reason.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uKD1ap5hsI

>>126186962
I know that the plasma accelerators do more damage, but the gimballed cannons tend to land more shots, especially if you're also wrestling with the ship without flight assist

>>126187456
Jesus Christ, learn how to link Youtube videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uKD1ap5hsI

>>126187594

I don't have the embed enabled so I don't care.

>>126187675
Well, at least you know what you fucked up, along with the clickable link.

>>126187456
exactly. Imagine if a Famine actually generated profitable food price, players pick up food and deliver it to the affected system of their own will, then you could have stations generate missions that sweeten the pot for food deliveries increasing the incentive, then you could have other factions generate missions in their stations maybe to pirate the food or destroy NPC ships carrying food. It's all possible with in the framework of the current game, it would just require Fdev to stop being cowards and implement systems to allow some player agency, and to increase mission payouts so they're actually worth a damn.

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>>126187594
>>126187456

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Holy shit why the fuck module sniping with fixed weapons is completely gimped?

>takes ages to get into a spot where the module isn't blocked by ten meters of ship hull
>finally after wiggling the crosshair around for minutes because of the target is dodging all over the fucking place, you get the crosshair in the middle of the target box
>roll dice
>1-10% damage to module

>>126182962
No, if you follow the rule of picking up missions with roughly 400-500k per ton, you'll be fine.

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>>126187986
>mission payouts

>>126184380
Refreshing still works in 17 Draconis. Got my last couple ranks for the corvette in a couple hours with a couple shipments worth of food.

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>>126187986
That'd be fucking neat, so it's not gonna happen.

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I died two times to this fucker before I finally got his powerplant

Eat shit you gigantic fucking faggot.
I am going to destroy your lifesupport and laugh as you suffocate and die a slow death.

>>126189012
Yeah, Anaconda's do fuck smaller ships up - regardless of NPC skill. Turret tracking is way too accurate and the angle is way too high. It's one of the things they need to reduce, in my opinion. Huge ships should have difficulty aiming at, tracking and hitting smaller targets. Currently they don't.

>>126188201
the only real way to go for module sniping is gimbal lasers

>>126189263
>nerf the anaconda even more

>>126187986
I think mission payouts are too high, at least on the low end right now. You can ditch the sidewinder in maybe one or two missions.

Low tier needs to pay less and to be honest, high tier ships just need to be cheaper.

>played a session with this playing in the back ground https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHf7Sx0Lgqs

>one of the most comfy/immersive times i've had with this game

why can't the game have something like this?

>>126189263
C H A F F
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F
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>>126189263
>I want to kill battlecondas in my cheapass ship, It's too hard
gitgud or buy a better ship.

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>>126189263
>>126189463
Chaff and Shield Cell Battery really saved my ass on this one.

This fucking bounty easily pays back the loan I had to take.

>>126187515
Cannons only land more shots if you can't figure out projectile weapons. Plasma travels faster and does more damage. Scoring a direct hit on an Anaconda powerplant with two class 4 PACs destroys it outright.

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>>126189012
>that feel when my A-Rated python Eats Anacondas for dinner

who /bestshipinthegame/ here?

How to make money?

>>126189463
Don't care about the Conda, they need to adjust turrets. Buff the Conda for all I care, it's a daddy ship anyways.

>>126189594
Well, yeah, but it does have an internal CD/recharge. Plus it doesn't change the basic issue: Turrets can track you everywhere except for maybe a 5 degree angle directly behind the ship. That's too accurate and effective for something nearly automated.

>>126189774
Meh, it's easy in my Courier or Vulture. Anything smaller or less powerful just doesn't have the firepower to keep up, the turrets will win the attrition fight most of the time, even if it's after 10 minutes.

I like how all of those Anaconda children are coming out of the woodworks all of a sudden. "I fly Anaconda because it's my favorite ship, not because it's COINCIDENTALLY the most powerful ship as well.", right?

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>>126189870
Python is still arguably the best multirole for the money.

The Corvette is still my shipfu tho

>>126189994
The FDL is my favorite ship though, and it fucks up condas. Get more money and get a better ship.

or gitgud

>>126190101
You didn't bother putting in the 2 smalls?

>>126189463
>I think mission payouts are too high, at least on the low end right now.
I disagree. You're not supposed to be in the Sidewinder for long time, it's the starter ship for a reason, and the next two ships up on the combat chain, the Eagle and Viper, both cost roughly 2 mil to get to A spec. That's not to mention the absolutely terrible scaling with rank vs mission pay out, I still see Elite and Deadly ranked mission that pay 10k-50k, which if your at that rank is fucking peanuts, even 500k isn't a great incentive when you can make that in 10 minutes in HazRES, versus however long whatever mission they just gave you is going to take. Trading is even more of a joke, why am I going sit and wait for possibly an hour on missions to fill my hold with useless crap for a couple 20k-100k payouts when I can just find a nice A-B-A route that makes me 2000+ Cr per ton? The game is really really bad and properly incentivizing players to doing anything but the most profitable tasks in the game, and it's lead to their anemic mission system becoming a complete joke.

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>>126188201
It has to be pinpoint accurate. I switched to gimballed cannon after I realized that. But cannon is too fucking slow, I might go back to plasma.

>>126188481
Go back to /kspg/, son. We're discussing important stuff.

>>126189263
>complaining about turrets
Fuck off. Turrets do literally nothing. Be glad you'r not facing a CMDR that knows how to fly without flight assist. I can outmaneuver FDL's with my Conda. If you're complaining about how deadly a Conda is from far, you've seen nothing.

>>126189994
Turret already have the lowest damage output

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>>126190564
I just grabbed this from google image search since I didn't want to launch the game to take another screen shot. here u go :^)

>>126190616
It's often better to go for a higher tier ship than max out a lower one.

You need to have a good progression, going through the low tier ships in a few minutes of play and grinding for days for the higher tiers is not good. Low pays too much and high is too expensive, and probably pays too little as well.

The starter ships, eagle, sidewinder and hauler are all but useless, three entire ships that have no significant role in the game. Wasted design effort. We need more ship variety not less, and adjusting the early game is essential.

>>126190738
He's complaining about it being hard to kill Anacondas in starter ships, anon. Just don't pay attention.

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>>126190945
I hate how small the smalls and mediums look on the corvette, so tiny. They look like anti-personnel guns instead of anti-ship.

>>126191252
And it's actually not. NPC's don't aim for subsystems.
http://coriolis.io/outfit/viper_mk_iv/24B4A4A2A3A3D4C272724240404452b29272725.AwRj4yKA.Aw1-kA==

>>126191593
I know it isn't, hence why I told him to gitgud.

>>126191442
Yeah, but we do get two FUCKHUEG guns right about the bridge. So there's that.

>>126191007
> We need more ship variety not less, and adjusting the early game is essential.
Not arguing with that, more ships is always better, it's just the problem with the game isn't that it takes too long to reach high tier ships, that's just a symptom of a greater problem, which is also the reason they mission payouts are low. The games just a giant skinner box with the only two rewards, money and ships, both of which are only useful for gaining the other. So I guess on second thought I don't disagree with you in principle, I just think that missions being better designed to properly incentivize players into doing shit other than ABA trading and RES farming, is a more pressing matter and would help the game out a lot more, than better ship progression.

>>126191901
But they are too high early. Do you read my posts or are you just repeating yourself? I said the early game pays much too high while the late is too expensive.

>>126191442
Those two smalls should have been two mediums. It's insulting to put such shitty hard points on a ship like that.

>>126190738
>large corvette class ship is maneuverable
>allrounder is the fastest

who the fuck is responsible for this shit and why aren't they fired or reduced to code monkey yet?

>>126192013
Like I said, I don't disagree with you, early game grind is too short and late game too long, but it's something that needs to be fixed without fixing other issues first.

>>126192176
Because he owns the company.

>>126192265
>but it's something that needs to be fixed without fixing other issues first
Meant to say it's not something that needs to be fixed with out fixing other shit first.

>>126192408

Why not though? It's literally just balance changes, adjusting numbers. It's the easiest fix they could make.

>>126192073
Eh, having two C1 beam turrets in those slots kind of nice for smaller ships. The ship will really shine once they add in the new C4s.

Game's on sale on steam, get it there so Braben gets even less money from it (you don't need steam to play it).

>>126192601
All I want for Christmas is C4 Rails

>>126193352
>C4 rails
>There aren't even any C3 rails

Fuck, C4 rails would probably just punch a hole straight through a sidewinder. I really just want C4 beams that look and sound like this: https://youtu.be/NukG2WKqtIs?t=1m3s

>>126192578
Like said earlier, high costs for high tier ships and bad payouts for high rank missions are symptoms of a bigger problem. They could decrease the payouts for low-tier missions, making you have to sit in the starter ships for long, but what does that really do? It just exacerbates the already extensive grind to get to higher tiers, and they aren't going to reduce the costs of high tier ships or increase the payout of high tier missions much because there's a fundamental flaw at the core of the game. No matter what ship you're in there are only a few profitable activities in the game, and the only reason you do those is to get money to upgrade you ship and get the next one down the line. What do you do when you have a fully kitted out Anaconda, or Cutter, or Corvette though? You go right back to what ever it was you were doing before, just in a ship with more guns/cargo space. Except now there's no point in it, there's no next step, so what's the purpose of grinding more credits at all? Ultimately Elite has no meat, no depth, the endless grind for credits and ships is all there is, change the rate at which you grind for those isn't going to fix that.

That's why I'd rather them fix the missions before the adjust the grind, I want them at least increase the variety in ways we can grind, before the go about changing how much we have to grind and in what ship. Ultimately though, what they really need to do is give us other shit to do than to grind for ships and credits so maybe someone might have a reason to buy a Conda/Corvette/Cutter, other than it's the most expensive biggest ship in the game, and maybe give people a reason to own smaller ships to outside of just having them be a stepping stone to bigger better things.

DON'T BUY GAMES RIGHT NOW

Fucking steam servers are getting hammered. Was trying to buy a gift for a friend. Sat on the order page 15 minutes. No confirmation emails or anything. He didn't receive it.

Tried again. Still no confirmation emails or confirmation page, sat on the order page for 15 minutes again. At this point my friend got the first attempt and the second got dumped in my inventory for some reason (even though it was a gift with a selected recipient).

I guess I kinda wanted this game too? Anyway. WAIT till steam isn't having shitfits to buy anything.

>>126193685
Actually, I'd be happy with ether.

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>>126193958
I posted this is the wrong thread. Warning still applies I guess.

The game was not Horizons. I might cry if I had just bought two copies of this crap by mistake.

Resume nomal shitposting.

>>126193958
>>126194120
I'm curious now, what game was it?

>>126194221
Rodina.

>>126193738
They just need more things that players can accomplish, really. Now that we can land on planets, being able to have your own private little base or mining compound that you can add on to would be really nice. They could use the current crafting system in conjunction with a feature like that. Factions and minor factions should offer more benefits and be more fleshed out than they are currently. Like you are saying, the biggest issue is that the only evidence of progression that actually matters is what ship you fly. We need more shit to accomplish that actually matters aside from ships.

>>126193685
So this is why capitals warn you away now. They're more toy-like the closer you get.

>>126194302
This cannot be done without an overhaul of the netcode. Elite Dangerous just DOES NOT support any kind of dynamic data being synced reliably and quickly over p2p. This is why the universe only changes during server reboots and they can force everyone to download new world data from a central source.

>>126193738
Overhauling the mission system would take a lot of effort though. So why not make the easiest most dramatic change first?

Is 1mil credits per 40minutes a good earn?
I'm currently doing a RES until I earn enough credits to get a decent exploration loadout.

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>>126188402
forgot webm but yeah switching between private groups def works. Also those smuggling missions are worth 5.5-5.9 mil each and only require about 3-5cargo and are only outposts. 17 Draconis the new hotness

>>126194302
Yep letting players own their own bases/stations/whatever would be a good start, or even letting players start their own companies and hire NPC to do shit. We need Fdev to realize that this isn't the 90's anymore and that games have advanced since then. Shame Fdev is incompetent and cowardly and will only ever tack on more shallow bullshit to what already exists in the game.

>>126194302
>wanting X/eve tier tedium

no. I'd like to mine planets in ways other than stealing from mining outposts but fuck that spreadsheet mogul shit, if you can't do it from a ship it shouldn't be in the game

>>126194708
It really wouldn't be that dramatic, it doesn't address anything that's really wrong with the game. It doesn't matter that the grind is fucked, the problem is that the grind is all there is.

>>126195039
What do you want? Advancing to a higher tier of ship has been the primary motivator in space sims since forever.

>>126195121
I don't know, maybe something to do with that higher tier ship than just jerk off to it. I'd like a reason to actually own the fucking thing other than "just for the hell of it".

>>126195403
>what do you want
>I don't know but its shit anyway

/edg/

>>126194892
Currently there are small automated mining outposts on planets that automatically mine shit. Right now all you can do is blow up the drills and take the metals, but the assets are there. I was talking about player being able to buy/build these types of facilities and then having a steady source of income on top of the shit players can already do.

>>126195726
and I was talking about that idea being shit, why would you want the game to play itself? why would you want a spreadsheet of things you own and have to manage?

that's what killed the space sim the first time around remember

>>126195549
The I don't know part was supposed to be sarcastic. You can't just have the game be grind, you gotta have more substance than that.

>>126196367
He's a shill, just ignore it.

>>126195121
Climb the ranks of one of the big NPC corporations I guess. Have actually persistent dynamic shit to do like defending or attacking these things >>126158559 , big mobile mining rigs and the like. Unfortunately it sounds like they would have to rebuild the game from the ground up to handle that.

>>126196474
But those things are difficult and slow to do, adjusting numbers to make what there is right now more fun is easy and fast.

>>126194852
>not RANK ME UP.webm

>>126196615
In what way does changing how the grind works make things more fun? So it takes longer to get out of a Siderwinder and shorter to get into a Anaconda. So what? The Anaconda isn't intrinsically more fun than a Sidewinder since all the shit you can do in a Sidewinder is the exact same shit you can do in an Anaconda. There's nothing satisfactory about this games grind outside the momentary enjoyment of getting something new.

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Has anyone blown up wedding barges just to see what happens?

>>126196615
They should balance the numbers first. It would make the game better but it wouldn't make it good.

How comfortable is a using a flightstick with a keyboard?

I've literally never used one before, and I'd like to buy a cheap Logitech 3D just to see how I like it, for >muh immershun

I'm sure it takes getting used to it, but would you guys say it actually helps with flying?

>>126197418
p. comfy, you don't have to move your hand around as much as you would with a mouse-flight.

>>126197418
It's shit.
Just buy some stuff to manage acceleration.

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>>126197637
>>126197739

>>126197418
I'd lend you mine, as I upgraded to HOTAS recently, it's not bad.

>>126197418
I prefer to use my logitech 3d + keyboard over my Saitek X52 HOTAS for Elite

>>126197984
>I'd lend you mine

In a perfect world anon. I'd skip the Joystick and go straight to HOTAS but they're all priced so fucking stupidly. $65 CAD for the Thrustmaster T-Flight, which from what I've read, isn't even very good.

>>126198127
Why is that? Just in terms of actual practicality? I imagine using a throttle feels hella nice in an intense battle. I suppose the novelty would wear off though.

>>126195821
>space sim
>why would you want the game to [be a simulation]?

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>>126196973
CANT RANK UP

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>>126197072
>in what way does better progression make things more fun

>>126198306
I had an X52, it wasn't even that good. Really hollow and cheap feeling.

>>126199282
It's doesn't because the progression is pointless.

>>126199458
progression is fun, unless you have crippling autism and think the journey doesn't matter

Is it fun yet?

Ok I have the federal corvette, now what.

>>126199453
>>126198306
>>126198127
I'm really liking my X-55 with E:D, SC and flight sims.

>>126199550
It doesn't matter if there isn't a destination. Excuse me for wanting something to do in the game now that I've got an Anaconda.

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WHERE THE FUCK WERE THESE PROGRESS BARS WHEN I WAS TRYING TO RANK UP!!!!

>>126199650
Uninstall the game, you're done, you've won.

>>126199709
>>126199453
I just realized the Logitech 3D Pro is like $10CAD cheaper than the shitty T-Flight. I'm probably going to regret it, but I really want to use a HOTAS. They're both fairly entry level so I'm sure I'm not totally fucking myself by getting the T-Flight. W-Wish me luck....

>>126199650
befriend a dad, land on a planet and explore with him and blow his ship up

>>126199650

you don't have federal cutter

>FUCK OFF AND RANK UP

>>126200113
The 3D Pro is a solid stick

>>126200113
Good luck, anon! :)

>>126199550
The journey is sterile and monotone. Kinda the whole problem there. Braben just had to do the realistic Milky Way though so we don't even get to fly through cool nebulae unless we go way out where there's no stations.

>>126200247
Yeah, while it's technically impressive, I think everyone would've been happier if all we had was the bubble and an actual dynamic universe.

> 100 M

That's the amount i'm willing to give up to rank up

all hail the vision

>>126200728
If you have a day and want fed rank 17 Draconis can do that for a lot less.

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QUICK

POST YOUR HUD COLOURS

>>126200864

I'm already at 17 draconis

and i'm throwing all the cash away.

VISION

>>126199709
When I was browsing the reviews seem to indicate the 55 is great....if you find one that hasn't suffered Mad Catz level quality control.

>>126200012
They've been there for nearly 6 months, you just never noticed them.

>>126201171

And, with RP, I'm a fucking billionaire who is literally throwing money at them

>>126201281
Tested it and all the controls toroughly, seems pretty good.

>>126201281
Have an x-55 since July. Never had any problem and I play over 40hours/week with it.

I guess I was very lucky, or that people tend to write reviews only when things go wrong...

>>126200864

Is there a faster way than donate money?

smug does the rank up faster?

>>126202269
takes like 8hours to rank at 17 drac and smuggling does nothing compared to charity

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>tfw want to get cutter
>tfw no 17 Draconis exploit equivalent

>>126202479

also, is it normal that 17 drac got a NOTHING commodity market?

>>126202556
Stop being an empirefag

Reminder that siding with the empire is to side with brabo

>>126202556

the time will come don't worry

We'll be empire/fed/alliance max rank + elite in all

Then you'll have a good excuse to uninstall

Are there any Aisling-fags on? I need help prepping a system.

>>126202232
WHO YOU GONNA CALL?

>>126202269
Donations were always the fastest. Frontier says combat missions gives more rep but why bother with that when you can jump between solo and private, banging out several charity missions a minute.

Took me about an hour to get from Post commander to Post Captain.

If I stacked up on combat missions it probably would have taken 5 or 6 hours.

>>126202151
>or that people tend to write reviews only when things go wrong
I'd say so.

>>126202791

MOTHER OF THE DRAGONS

>>126202791
>Aisling

Get the fuck out.

last time I checked that sub was back in the crusade age. tell me is there a new way to farm up the ranks real fast? Need the cutter and I'm just a serf but don't want to do missions. they suck balls.

>>126203043
What does all that have to do with a sebaceous cyst??

>>126203043

fucking read >>126202814
>>126202556
>>126202479


goddammit seriously

>>126202915

What's wrong with her? I looked at the stats on the Prismatic shield, and liked it.

You don't think I care about her anti-slavery policy?

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Who here is IRA?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h7UPVOz6MU

>>126203043
17 Draconis is the Feds place for ranking

Check out Liabeze, it used to spawn donation missions out the ass and might be starting to again.

I cant check right now since I'm spending my way to get the Fed Corvet and fear this will be fixed soon.

>>126203473

You are worse than a fucking white knight

>>126203579

they aren't gonna take your rank back anon, chill the fuck out

>>126203620

And you're a nigger, what's your point?

>>126203804
> you're a nigger

triggered. Wow anon, you're such a cuck

>>126203804
And you're a c.uck, go prep that bull now.

>>126203741
I know they wont take ranks but I'm pretty sure Draconis is going to take a hit sooner or later.

>>126203524
Pity the only ships that get the paintjob are shit. If only the viper was as fast as it was in beta, that might make help make up for its god awful agility.

>>126202575
because it's poor as shit hence the donation missions

>>126202814
>>126202556

>cheating

>>126204126
>submitting to VISION

>>126203920
>>126204016

Okay, explain this "HATE AISLING" meme to me. I like the Prismatic Shield. It's roughly 25% efficient than a B2 shield.

>>126204126
>Kill 2 Pirates
>1%

>Kill 80 Pirates
>1%

I'm fine with cheating if it's going to be like that.

>>126204319

THIS
H
I
S

Fuck the vision

>>126203579
>17 Draconis
570ly away fuck me

>>126204487
Just buy a Taxi hauler.

Eravate

>>126204627
got me a asp. anaconda may have more range but I don't want to unfit all my assets.

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Where can I get the biggest discounts on ships? I was at a station today where condas went for 124mil. I forgot which station it was. Definitely in Chinaman's space though.

Sorry if this get asked often but is this game worth £10 and am i able to play mostly solo or do i have to treat it as a full on MMO?

>>126206297
It's worth ten quid, m8.
Don't go Horizons though,

>>126206297
Not a cent more, there's next to zero multiplayer once you leave the starter systems, and you can just play solo.

>>126206297
Lucky for you there is an (online) solo mode you can freely switch into where you never have to see another player ever. Not that you would be likely to anyway, shit's pretty spread out. Oh, if you mean player parties going out and "leveling" together it's practically discouraged since it makes grinding take longer most of the time.

So how do you tell what a given faction is all about?

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Fuck me, buying an imperial courier was the worst decision ever, just looking at it causes it to overheat...

>>126207089

Really? The only time I overheat is when I use a shield battery mid-combat. Otherwise it's roughly at 30-50%.

>>126207089
>>126207543
yeah same here, you are fucking something up for sure. I use fucking beam lasers too, have never overheated once

>>126207089
ugliest ship in the same, and an imperialshit too, what did you expect?

>>126208347
dumb smelly feddie

>>126208402
>implying i am fed

>>126203579
spend now some shekel. rank at 100%. just spend more money to get a rank or will I have to make some missions then and now to get my rank up?

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Dad pls

>>126208839
wrong meme'd

>>126209136
It was meant for those 30 people though. But you're right, it sounds wrong.

>>126208769
You must find a promotion mission.

So does the Steam group DO anything? I want to grief some dumbasses. Who's gonna be on later?

I just wanted to buy it on steam sale but now I see that extension is a separate thing :(
Does they think that ppl will be buying a release after release? Does it is even worth getting only a base game? They are still gonna add new content to it?

>>126209286
thank you. Not even scout. I suck at these things

>>126209302
stop grieving

>>126209474
You can keep spending money, you dont need to do the missions since any excess progress will spill over into the next rank. I skipped some imperial rank up missions this way.

>>126209816
Then I hope I have enough shekel. Thank you.

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>>126209432
>They are still gonna add new content
Sure if by "content" you mean "the void"

>>126211635


the void will be added so people will no longer be able to jump without being buttfucked and buttblastered by thargoids, losing money on insurance, full damage and grind control.

VISION
I
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N

>>126212062
I'm wondering how they'll manage to implement thargoids.
>tfw it is the same pattern as current random NPCs
>tfw VISION HABBENING

How do you guys even stomach doing Robigo runs now? I got 10 systems away and just gave up due to never ending interdictions and main-menuing.

two things

I have 70m should i buy a t9 and start making dosh?

Is there some poor idiot like me that knows a good hotas keybind for the autistic moon buggy?

Hit Rear Admiral and checked out Liabeze. It's not worth it, it'll have only one mission per refresh if you're lucky.

Empire or Cutter cucks will have to look elsewhere.

So, objectively, what's the best combat ship? I tried the Anaconda, and while having turrets, turrets everywhere was nice, it steers like a drunken cow.

Is this a bug or a feature? I can take out Condas in my Courier, without too much trouble. Same goes for the Clipper (but with more difficulty, because of the insane shields).

However, with a Federal Corevette, the NPC AI likes to ram me with it. I'm scrambling to keep it in my LOS, and then all of a sudden it stops and accelerates on a dime, smashing into me, ripping apart my shields and doing 30% hull damage. It then kills me.

Anybody else encounter this, or am I just unlucky?

>>126215024
>big ships will always act like fighters because of the stupid chaffs
>brabo will never make turrets less afected by the chaffs than gimballed weapons

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as is a thousand screams suddenly went silent

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>>126216093
as if*
night is not good for me

>>126216093
VISION
I
S
I
O
N

>>126216303
i got vision'd hard desu
>get me 2 experimental chemicals
>get 2 of those to the station
>GET ME 2 EXPERIMENTAL CHEMICALS
>get 8 of those to the station
>GET ME FUCKING 2 EXPERIMENTAL CHEMICALS RRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
so ive sold all of those and canned the mission

>>126209432
they added new ships for the base game on the same day

>>126216451
you give them by opening the "bulleting board" and selecting your mission

>following mission target in space
>disappears into thin air
>not even a wake

this meme doesn't amuse me

>>126216451
Missions are bugged, the things you have to collect no longer generate the mission specific tag for some reason. Just don't do missions until they fix this garbage.

>>126207089
>puts a D rated power plant in his ship
>w-why am I overheating?

>>126209816
seems that it don't work. After 750.000 shekel still no rank up

>>126220401
What rank are you? Have you checked your % progress too? If you have a mission available, do it and you should see a lot of progress to the next one.

>>126220916
Rank: none. reputation goes up on the other hand. waiting now for a navy mission

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>rear admiral

and i will surmount vice as well

i will be an admiral king

>>126200974
http://arkku.com/elite/hud_editor/#theme_0_0.6_0.7_0_0_1_0.51_0_0.5

Great for low light, and because it's rad as fuck.