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Spessmen on a Space Station - /ss13g/

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*(f)art edition

Last time on /ss13g/
>Art dumps for the art dump god
>Buttblasted anons triggered by buttblasted anon triggered by pictures of skinny white girls.
>Journalism!
>Vox raiders happened, I guess.
>ADMINFIGHT! Celt VS Niggly, who will win?
>RIP AND TEAR! Station 13 continues to look tight as fuck.

>What is Space Station 13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA
http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc

>New player guide
http://ss13.pomf.se/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.pomf.se/wiki/index.php/General_Help

>BYOND client
http://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/

>Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station server, running a vote script to change maps at round end.
byond://ss13.undo.it:7777

>Test server
byond://ss13.nexisonline.net:1336

>Public server list
http://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13

>Forum, ban list and logs for vgstation
http://ss13.pomf.se/forum/
http://ss13.pomf.se/index.php/bans
http://ss13.undo.it/logs/

>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"

>Map renders collection: updated nightly
http://ss13.nexisonline.net/img/map-renders/

>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstation

>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
http://ss13.booru.org/

>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o

>Nostalgia
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/ss13g/

OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/wa9fnYbg
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>watching cops right now
>makes me want to try playing security
>I'm unrobust as fuck
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Kill everyone
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>this cat litter commercial every time
>more and more convinced Liam O'brien voiced it
>no clue why he'd be doing commercials, so it can't be him
>voice is still sexy
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Gas the humans race war now.
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>>126133012
For me it's that fucking ps4 ad
CAN'T THINK
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>upgrading mining suit with goliath skin doesn't turn it red and give it a grizzled look
>Can't skin basilisks for special skin that gives them a heat res upgrade
>can't use goliath teeth to upgraded picks into better weapons/upgrade the accelerators to do more damage in a vaccum
Making my own tiny version of monster hunter is almost motivating enough for me to learn how to code

Also, what do goldgrubs even do?
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How do i play cyborg?
Is it fun service cyborg in particular?
I'm scared of fucking up so bad
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>>126133893
play as a janiborg and wet every fucking floor
enjoy the janitor getting lynched in your stead
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>>126133623
Goldgrubs eat ore, that they drop when they die
Also meat i guess
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>>126133893
>fucking up and doing bad
You really can't fuck up and ruin the round any worse then any other non-head role. Don't sweat it mate.
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>>126134037
any specific way to kill them? Unloading guns on it don't seem to work
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>>126133893
>Read your fucking laws
>Follow your fucking laws
>READ THEM AGAIN
>DID YOU FUCKING READ THEM?
>READ THE WIKI PAGE
>READ YOUR FUCKING LAWS AGAIN
>DID YOU READ YOUR LAWS YOU FUCK?
>YOU DIDN'T FUCKING READ THEM
>IMPRINT THEM INTO YOUR GODDAMN BRAIN
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>>126134145
use those kinetic guns from the vendor, a single one can kill a goliath without reloading if you hit every shots

I usually carry two, oh and they fit on your miner belt
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>>126133893
engineer borg is basically playing engineer with cheats enabled
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>>126134305
well, even I know that much. I remember unloading two accelerators on a grub and getting a message that basically said it wasn't getting damaged
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>>126134404
>>126134145
wiki says melee
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OFFICAL SPESS POLL FOR MEDIUM RP WEEK TO RETURN.

http://strawpoll.me/6333612
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>>126134753
You do know that the admins never use these, right?
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>>126134753
Why not a poll in-game?
Good idea to let people who aren't even playing to vote.
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>>126134753
Only if the threshold for a bearing is raised to stuff like touching dem tiddies
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>>126134145
Melee, lure it close with some gold ore.
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>>126133893
Service cyborg can be fun.
When I play it, I generally try to be as unnecessarily polite as possible, and bring people food and drinks and such.
Also, with the upgrade, it's now possible for service borgs to serve as both a bartender and a chef.

But be aware that if there's a bartender and a chef on the station already, you won't have a whole lot to do.
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>>126134864
We did one and MrPain said to start doing polls and shit in thread and on the actual forums, you know, the place that gets 1 person per day traffic?
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according to the wiki there's a giant space worm thing, is that a working admin bus or just another broken feature that's still on the wiki for some reason?
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>>126135489
What a fucking idiot
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pepes are in full print and are worthless

post your rare waifus
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>>126135504
Yes
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>>126135608
commit suicide
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>>126135608
All waifus are rare. Ever since shiggy left the waifu economy has recovered from it's hyperinflation
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>>126135504

space worm half works.

it eats mobs and craps out plasma when the mob is killed they can bash down normal walls not Rwalls.

More or less like playing snake
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>>126135504
Yes, its true. Its a player controlled worm which is basically a "train". It breaks walls that it tries to move through and if it receives enough damage it splits into two(albeit smaller) worms, and this can go on for a while.

Admins don't seem to like spawning these though, I guess that's it because they're often round enders if they manage to eat the guns since they're unbeatable at that point.
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>>126135662
>speech bubble on wurm
What?
Regardless that looks pretty cool
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>>126136047
so like sandworms?
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>>126135504
What the wiki doesn't tell you is that if a worm hits itself it eats that segment and gets split.
Another great failure of it is that you can simply go, pull a segment and the worm is now two.

>>126136147
He demanded to be comfy.
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>>126135719
as a consumer this might drastically affect the waifu economy
>>126135898
this man knows his waifunomics
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>>126134753
>memeium RP
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>>126137031
>meme arrows
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Nelstation > firestation > pomf > hatestation
Prove me wrong.
Protip: you can't. Enjoy you're bloat and lag, faggots.
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>>126137184
I don't even know what those other two stations are though
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>>126137184
>you're bloat
It's what I get for having pizza all the time
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>>126137184
>nelstation
>firestation

Literally what
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>>126137184
Hatestation a shit
Shiiiiiiiiiit
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>Be clown on goon rp
>Whatever, roll with it
>Get the captain to sign me an autograph, make him write my name as "I can do whatever I want"
>Renamed the paper clown's permission slip
>Me an journalist write a story about how the captain abused me and security is shit
>Get regional director in on it
>Email shenanigans, tell the captain me and regional director are in love to throw suspicion off of us
>Make lots of copies of our vitriolic news letter
>Captain disappears, shady character taking pictures shows up
>Start revolution of the proletariat, nobody gets in on it
>Start making fake announcements as the Nanotrasen CEO
>Bridge blows up
>Shuttle docks
>MFW it was actually a revolution round
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>>126137837
90% griffons, 10% retards.
>>126137470
Nel was the precursor to hatestation. Firestation was a station that popped up as an alternative to hatestation. While the admin metaclub of hatestation tried to convince everyone nobody would use it, it would be just a fad, it wouldn't last, etc., it stole the entire regular userbase and brought back twice the amount for the 3 days it lasted. The metaclub then guilt tripped the admin of firestation into shutting it down and joining as an admin on hatestation. Now, hatestation has 5 people at a time at most, usually around 1-2, and it's still almost entirely griffons.

I still think the simpler, more streamlined station is better, since every piece fits better together and no activity is too annoying to bother performing instead of, say, killing and cloning instead.

But the most important part is the userbase, and /vg/'s outright implicitly forbids playing some jobs if you don't want to be both considered valid and treated the way one should treat a ligger instead of a fellow human.

If current hatestation wasn't 90% griffons, 10% retards, it would still beat the shit out of pomf.
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>>126138978
But I've been playing as Hyun-ae for over a year now and every round I would play on there would either lead to nonantags killing me each round or me nonantag killing everyone each round.

By setting your station up as the Mugunghwa, you have already lost one player forever.
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>>126139867
That's hatestation. And these were the griffons. Welcome, enjoy your stay! And remember, the masochists are those on 4chan who don't come to our server!
t. 8chen's ss13 players.

That's also why nel and firestation were great, there was almost no nonantag shittery. There still was some, as there always will be, but it was a drop in the desert.
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Oh I've never played on there, logged on once and nobody was active. Kind of sad.

What features aside from your map do you got? Is it just TG codebase?
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>>126140650
Clearly meant for
>>126140513

Also, of you think the killing is because of griffons, please look further into what you named your server after.
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What in science is beneficial to the rest of the station?
Add things I didn't think of
>R&D, all of it
>telescience to save people
>occasional goodies from xenoarcheology
>maybe MAYBE plants from xenobotany
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>>126141260
Maybe the fact that science can replace almost every department's job. Have you ever seen one of my telesci-medbay's? Puts medbay out of business.
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>>126141353
AUTISM
U
T
I
S
M
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Is cutting the brakes (avoidance wire) on the MULEs considered bannable?

Shipments gotta get to where they gotta go
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>>126141353
>>126141445
I'm really, I didn't mean that. I'm just jealous of your robustness, don't mind me...
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>>126141260
printing borgs?
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>>126141353
how's your telesci smartfridge looking :^)
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SHITTLES NO
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>muh valids

Sec the entire round
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Hey Doom-WAD-guy
I might have a little gift for you
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>douche AI calls the shuttle
>prevents me from getting my H.O.N.K.
>break into Cap's office
>get every fancy piece of armor and lazer gun
>wear clown mask and shoes
>turn full shitter

Boring ass round through and through, but at least a bit of fucking around at the end
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>tfw had a deep sinking feeling the guy in the medical rig suit was the one decapitating since he scrammed as soon as he saw my red uniform
>still never got told what alert we were on

I knew it was you. I knew I should've shot you as soon as I saw you.
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>>126140650
It's a vastly modified tg codebase. We have dismemberment, some kind of weird goon-trek chem hybrid, deepfryer, minimap med console, xenoarch, custom stuff like daikimakura, screaming duck toy, *ree emote, and a slurpslurpy vendor (sells with keywords like meta, shitler, griffon, etc.), butt-based recipes and crafts, I think botany is expanded, too; some balance changes like stun is nerfed a lot, especially on makeshift weapons, etc.

Best of all, when a borg receives a reset board, it doesn't bug out and it can actually choose its new class :^) Also, sprites in hands aren't bugged to shit :^)
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>>126141771
>I-I dindunuffin
>i'm allowed to toe the line grief with no consequences
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LONG AS FUCK ROUND

RD was a total fag and his PAI too, telescience rules
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>>126141260
robotics because it gets dead people back into the g- BWAHAHAHAHAHA no sorry I can't, no one ever print posibrains
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>>126141893
I was the captain. I called the shuttle, actually.

Mostly because the round was very boring at that point and it was clear some people were turning into shitters just to make things more exciting, not that I minded.
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>>126141893
>AI calls the shuttle
Nope.
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>>126141865
Keep it simple. Keep it sprites. Getting overambitious is why other ports fail.

Faggot
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>>126141958
You're a total fag
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>traitor virologist, have to nab the Chief Engineer's jumpsuit
>ask admins what limitations i have
>"go fucking wild"
>start preparing a death serum to show her once she shows up, told her it was to help me practice immunization/curing with minor diseases
>she got swamped in work so i detonated her PDA to force her to medbay
>threw her out the Viro garbage disposal

i'm sorry i had to resort to robust measures, but those antag shakes were kicking in. i was planning to inject you with an elvis disease and take care of you later

still happy i won my first traitor round though
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>>126141920
Alert is always red. Blue requires a captain who isn't taking it for the access only and red requires critical heads stop doing their job then wrangle another tard to get code red.
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>be mime
>find syndie soap in bar
>offer it to gods for chameleon projector
>get it
>have some fun
>convince HoP to give me all access by showing him a cool trick
>make some announcements
>wander into RD to see whats up
>get tased by cap
>brought to brig
>killed by firing squad

Oh well. Guess it shows if you pick shit up you find lying around people will think you're an antag.
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>>126140927
Either korea's national flower or a type of cheap train?
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I spent the entire round trying to get 9mm ammo for a gun I found on a dead prostitute. Every time I tried to load up the 9mm sub magazines they were giving me the bullets just disappeared.
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>>126142131
ahelp and report with the bugreporter
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>>126141970
>Rarely get minerals and

>>126142086
Act like it, get treated like it.
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>>126142131
Take a screenshots, report it. It's probably just a broken line by deity and even I could fix it.
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>>126142281
I didn't act like anything really. HoP vouched for me.

You guys were bloodthirsty because nothing was happening. Could've brigged me instead.
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>>126142086
It's always like this
>muh valid
Every faggot wants to powergame instead of play the game.
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>>126142281
>no proof he even hurt anyone
>nah let's just kill him
american/10
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>declaring ready
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>>126142440
Except the mime truly wasn't powergaming nor was he acting like an antag. Secs gonna get their valids regardless of intent.
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Remember kids; Don't go out in the snow without a warm suit of armour on!
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>>126142086
I'm sorry mime, secchat assumed you were pretending to be Terrel when my secborg announced Terrel was killing someone in medbay when I told the borg to stop Terrel killing the chemist in Sec Medbay.
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>>126141937

>It's a vastly modified tg codebase
Ok
>We have dismemberment
So do we.
>some kind of weird goon-trek chem hybrid
Goofchem pls go
>deepfryer, minimap med console, xenoarch
Got all those here
>custom stuff like daikimakura
I play a waifu and this is still haram
screaming duck toy, *ree emote
Ok.
>and a slurpslurpy vendor (sells with keywords like meta, shitler, griffon, etc.)
>encouraging ooc in ic
>butt-based recipes and crafts
Cool.
>I think botany is expanded, too
We just expanded/reworked ours too, makes xenobotany less RNG based
>some balance changes like stun is nerfed a lot, especially on makeshift weapons, etc.
Aka TG stuns, to which I say gitgud.
>Best of all, when a borg receives a reset board, it doesn't bug out and it can actually choose its new class :^) Also, sprites in hands aren't bugged to shit :^)
Our reset has worked for a while too and idk what inhand glitch you're talking about.

It basically sounds like eternal lowpop Hippie right now. Not doing a good job of selling it on me.
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>>126142419
>>126142276

I think it was because I was trying to transfer the bullets from the 9mm sub mag to a 9mm sketchin mag.
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>>126142440
You're an idiot. I wasn't doing anything malicious, and most people in the round knew that.

I had ALL ACCESS and the only thing I used it for was some HUD glasses and funny announcements. Give me a break.
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>>126141970
ask them to print posibrains in looc
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>>126142545
>>126142437
>Proof
>In parapen space country
leaving problems lying around bites you in the ass.
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>>126141595
Honest to god forgot robotics was part of science.
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>>126142782
It's like a shitter factory
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>>126142735
so it comes back to
>muh valids
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>>126142735
I didn't deserve to be executed because of what I had on me.

Sec was just looking for an excuse to kill something.
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>>126142601
You're really pressing the Star War references, aren't you?
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>>126142102
The Mugunghwa is a ship in the OLEVN Analogue: A Hate Story, which is the game I adapted Hyun Ae from.

In Analogue, *Hyun-ae (note the asterisk) is an archival AI who's been operating for years after the Mugunghwa went offline.

Hyun-ae was actually a living human who forcibly had her tongue cut out because she wouldn't conform to the patricharchial society of the ship she woke up in after years of being frozen in cryo. She went berserk and disabled the life support systems, which nobody else on the ship knew how to do because their society reverted like fuck, and then turned herself into an AI.

That's why me playing on Hatestation would lead to nonantag murder in one way or another.
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>>126142440
But, powergaming is still playing the game.
If someone wants to play full throttle or not gimp themselves, then I see no problem.
Acting like a fool will still get you treated like a fool.
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>>126141920
Stop worrying about alerts. Suspicious activity is a crime you can act on in clear cases like that.
>>
What are shit servers to avoid
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>>126143330
What kind of player are you?
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>>126143190
Wow that sounds absolutely fucking retarded
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>>126141920
>not reporting him for suspicious activity
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>>126143439
don't talk shit about my husbando
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>>126143554
Kill yourself
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>>126143439
It really is. Interesting in how the game is presented, Christine Love does a good job at presenting stories in ways you can only do in videogames.

But the story for Analogue and it's sequel, Hate Plus, is basically about feminism. Stay away if that's not your thing.
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>>126143441
It was at the end of the round when I was dragging a dying assistant to medbay for the hopes of someone saving him, I did report, but he was gone by the time I announced the headless bodies.
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>>126143407
Not the kind who randomly murders people just because I'm a traitor
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>>126143663
Everything except for the RP focused servers with strict rules, ie avoid this place.
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>>126128309
mr. cherrypick man couldn't find anything wrong in my open PRs
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>>126143663
Bay is cancer, apparently Polaris does what Bay did but better.

Avoid the griffon servers like Hippie and maybe TG. Try out LLJK 5, it does a halfway decent job at medium RP, better than we ever attained on /vg/.
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>>126143743
So all the major stations?
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>>126143330
the only good ones are the ones reddit can't get into, i.e., /vg/ and goon.
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>>126143837
Yep. Hope you like deadpop.
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>>126143841
>reddit can't get into
>vg
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>>126143832
>Hippie
Literally lynch the clown round start
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>>126143841
>goon and /vg/
>not reddit-infested
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>>126143996
>VG
>LIterally lynch the clown round start
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>>126142575
>>126142676
The captain you fags, obviously not he fucking mime. Lrn2read, shitfaggots. Is this kindergartenhour or something?
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>>126142037
B-but anon
v o x e l s
>>
Rate these major stations
/vg/
/tg/
Goon
Bay
Hippie
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>>126144338
alright
lost cause
FEATURES and shit community
cancer
cancer
>>
>>126144338
From best to worst

/vg/
Goon
TG = Bay
.
.
.
Power gap
.
.
.
Hippie
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>>126143204
You should be banned desu senpai.
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>>126144437
>>126144458
Why is hippie so shit
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>>126144269
Notch really killed an entire branch of computer graphics with his crapshoot of a "game". Probably the biggest disservice he's done to videogames, beside his introducing the cancer that is early access, is to redefine what voxel means.
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>>>126143996
>>>126144234
>>TG
>>LITerally lynch the clown round start
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>>126144470
Two years strong and not a ban to be found on me :^)
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>>126142281
>guy is using a syndie item in ways completely unlike what an antag would do
>there is nothing remotely antagonistic about what he's doing
>a simple search would reveal absolutely no further reasons to believe he might be an antag
>their possession of the projector could be explained through adminbus (as it so happened) or looting it off an antag
How in the Christ is that "acting like an antag" any more than a Miner wearing a red softsuit?
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>>126144635
It's the Reddit server and people are allowed to lowercase and griff. Couple that with one of the worst admin teams around and it's a depressing experience.

Admiral Hippie himself is apparently a pretty cool guy though.
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>>126144672
>>Bay
>>LIterally no clown round start
>>
>>126144794
>Implying /vg/ isn't the reddit server
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>>126144717
>being proud of being a massive shitter
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>>126144794
>lowercase

Thanks autocorrect, I mean powergame.
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>>126144996
>people being allowed to powergame is a bad thing
baybie tbvqgh (like my meme?)
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>>126144735
>implying security will listen
I once got batoned and sent to the brig because captain got info from the AI that I killed someone and spaced his brain (I was a roboticist)

Even though I was non-antag and was minding my own buisness, the captain decided to flash me, drag me to prison without checking the body, strip me of everything and throw me to the brig
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>>126144964
Depends on your idea of your memeword, shitter, but I don't go out of my way to "win" or turn medbay, atmos, or whatever into a power house.

I just see no problem with letting people play however they want when it comes to their job or not wanting to die.
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>>126144794
So in other words, it's literally anarchy
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>>126145076
That's not a bad meme.

But by powergame, I mean disconnecting the entire mix line in Atmos because "Only traitors use that"

It's not the stocking up of guns and killing all of sec because you killed someone that the clown called a wizlingop, it's the TG method where you space jumpsuits so the antags can't have their greentext. It's the Shittercon method of bolting everyone down and ignoring their demands because "preventing harm :^)"

It's where you literally get banned for killing someone who asked to die because he ahelped about it. Should I find the ban appeal on their forums?
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>>126143969
>>126144130
thanks for showing your true colors for the whitelist!
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>>126145308
It's the place where the shitters go, anon.
>>
STICKYBAAAAAANS
>>
STICKYBANNSSs????
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STICKYBANS NO
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Did a stickyban just get everyone on the server?
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POMF
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J U S T
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>>126143832
>Polaris does what Bay did but better
No, it's basically a copy of Bay, but with a worse map.
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STICKY BANS ARE SHIT!
SHIIIIIIIIEEEEEET! I TELL YA!
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Seriously, sticky bans are just fucking awfullly implemented and they cause problems ALL THE TIME.
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what happened?
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>>126143832
> LLJK 5, it does a halfway decent job at medium RP, better than we ever attained on /vg/

No, it's just Goonstation with marginally less *fart
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>>126145658
oh thank god, i thought it was just me
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>>126145363
nah, i know that appeal by good ole sarca
i get what ye on about with the extreme powergaming shit and there's pretty much no balance in it
it's a flawed server to say the least
the shittercon stuff doesn't happen tho
greytiders get too much reign, security should get more protection too
they want more stuff handled IC but they're pretty average at doing so
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>>126145862
I never got goon's fascination with buttbots and farting
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>>126145756
sorry for new but what are sticky bans?
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I'm new as fuck. Can someone explain what the hell just happened?
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>>126145734
Ah. Never been on Polaris yet and Bay was too inactive for me. Even Vore is a better role-playing server if you can turn down the deviantart trying to eat you sexually.

Which reminds me, avoid Citadel unless you wanna shove five guys down your cock then fap them out to disarm the guy who tried to kill you.
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>>126146018
The sticky ban system is fucked and you probably just got banned like me.
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>>126146018
Sticky bans broke and banned everyone
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>>126145985
>>126146018

assumedly bans operated by the server itself, which try to pick up X action, and ban person Y for it. is everyone the pickaxe thing?
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>>126146139
I am.
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>attack someone with a pickaxe in the library
>get banned
>come to the thread and see it is just a sticky ban

that was a close one
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>>126146075
>>126146103
Do I just twiddle my dick until I'm unbanned, or what?
>>126146139
Pickaxe here, too.
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>>126146075
>>126146139
not him but yep, also im ID is lavoss for when admins unban, not sure if they are just gonna rollback
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based admin gods have freed us from the torment that is space-snow

all praise admin gods
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>>126146229
Twiddle away. It wont take too long
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>exit before 5 minutes before ban
feels good
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>>126146139
Yup. Now we wait for the admins to unban everyone.
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>>126146203
i exploded someone with a drill last game, am very glad of this outcome
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>>126146031
Just take a look at Polaris' map,

http://i.imgur.com/uRRvopZ.jpg

It's literally impossible to cause a breach on about 90% of the station's z-level. And did I mention that all the solid rock on it also has a bunch of ores, including fucking DIAMOND?
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>>126146481
so a toxin bomb couldn't punch a hole through it?
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Everyone is unbanned now
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>>126146481
>twelve fucking individual dorms rooms in a secluded section of the station
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>>126145985
Stickybans are bans designed to work around the typical methods of ban evading. It's usually proven effective, although there are ways around it. There's a pictograph about it that someone posts sometimes.

>>126145978
Does Heredth work on their code? He has a fart fetish and is responsible for some really shitty fartcode we had for a while.

>>126145908
The problem with the admins is easy to solve: either replace them with people who understand escalation and self-defense, or teach the existing admins about it.

But how do you solve an issue with the player base? Bay up and banned anyone who didn't follow their RP guidelines. But our banlist is already a mile long, and I imagine that Hippie has a similar issue. So how do you fix a playerbase issue without going Gestapo and banning a lot of people?

I'm still wondering about that.
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>>126145862
Nah, you just don't know how to play on a Goon server.
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>>126146481
>that atmos
>no room for autism projects
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>>126146481
That... Sounds about right for a Bay-style server.

One round of Bay where an antag actually tried to antag for once, they threatened to bomb the station. He went through with it, and the result was something resembling an IED, which the entire crew and the AI mocked him about.
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>>126146603
I'll let their own wiki explain it:
>The map is an asteroid colony instead of a traditional space station. This has some consequences listed below.

>*A new layer for the floor exists. Instead of Space > Lattice > Plate Floor > Tiled Floor, it can now be Asteroid > Lattice > Plate Floor > Tiled Floor.
>*Explosions on the asteroid do not produce the expected space crater. The floor, if destroyed, shows the bottom-most layer. This makes explosions inside central locations unlikely to breach (and as a bonus, it reduces lag somewhat, since ZAS doesn't get involved). Explosions near windows holding back vacuum will still vent the area, however.

Translation: Bombing doesn't do dick, not like it matters because they nerfed ZAS to hell and back. On that note, take a peek at their atmos and weep.

>>126146916
You also forgot:
>escape pods big enough for their own cryo cells
>a huge-ass medbay lobby with only one body scanner
>gee billy, why does your mom let you have TWO TEGs?
>a metric fuckton of empty hallways and wasted space
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>>126146875
liar
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>>126147104
I'd say that its default layout is in itself an autism project. Seriously, I can't look at the mess of pipes in there without hurting myself.

>>126147069
>*fart
>LOL PUBBIES
amidoinitrite?
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>>126146481
Their security is bigger than our entire fucking station.

I love it. Imagine 200 players on this map. Hnnng.
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>>126147497
*fart is a part of spaceman culture and has been for fucking years.

There was even a resurgence of it on /vg/ in early 2014. Your newfag is showing.
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>>126146940

go hitler mode if you want fix the player base
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hey its me sawbones how is everyone doing today
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honestly that snow shit was fucking stupid
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>>126146940
>How do you fix a playerbase
You never will with admins or any kind of power or code.

Social dissent is the key.
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>>126147601
>Their security is bigger than our entire fucking station.
what?
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>building a cabin with werner heisenberg
>shits gonna be comfy
>ZAS keeps fucking me
>go to get some more trees
>tree falls on me
>get critted
>go in and out of conciousness crawling back to the cabin
>cry for werner to hear my calls
>werner not responding
>pray to admins
>but nobody came...
>cry out and curse the gods and die next to the cabin
>die looking at the dream that never was
>since everyones banned singuloth got loose
>werner comes back
>singuloth eats our comfy cabin

That was the realest shit. Crying out for the gods to help me and no body responding was an awful gut wrenching feeling.
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>>126147601
And yet ironically they'll never need it because they can't actually robust anyone without fear of the banhammer coming down. They probably make such a fuss about negotiating traitors only because it hides their inability to actually eliminate them any other way.

>>126147970
>Social dissent is the key.
Are you suggesting we throw out the entire playerbase and get a new one?
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>>126146481
>that fucking brig
>even the god damn solitary cells are a couple windows and one hacked door from the main hallway

Good thing their autistic RP rules probably forbid anyone from ever doing that, but still.
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>Orzorn kills multiple wizards including the one who summoned him
>I didnt do that
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>>126143074
>>126142961
If you aren't such a shit that I feel like I need to kill you, you wont get killed. Stay in line, follow the law, and do your job instead of toeing the line then crying when your toes get crushed/
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>>126148038
>Are you suggesting we throw out the entire playerbase and get a new one?
If everybody who played on /vg/ stopped playing and we got a fresh, not shit playerbase in time for Space Station DOOM, I would cum very hard.
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>>126148267
>we
Wouldn't that include you, too?
Why are you including yourself in the "new" playerbase, then?
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>>126148245
literally all the mime was doing was using his thing to transform into things and entertain people at the bar

after they killed him some sec officer took it and started using it at random too
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>>126148301
I stopped playing on /vg/ in late 2014 because the cancer became too much to handle.
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>>126148267
>implying Space Station DOOM won't be a laggy, shitty mess in its own right

Sure, it looks decent now but it hasn't incorporated an actual online element yet. It'll take a year or two at the least before it gets into a playable state.
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>>126148390
>played
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time for taxi station, thank me later
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>>126148427
>Talking about something in the future
>Use past tense
>WELL ANON GUESS U RNT SO SMRT NOW R U????
How is it possible for one anon to be so stupid?
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>>126148395
I see you know nothing about video games and processing pipelines, anon. Please inform me of how it is of the benefit to no one to finally stop using this shitty fucking anime engine for a well documented, completely open source engine.
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>>126148519
Thanking you later
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>>126148674
slark race when
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>>126148658
I merely question whether said engine (which shows its age quite badly) is capable of handling 50+ players at once.
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>>126148658
Because it's going to give an advantage to people who are good at FPS games.

SS13 is great because it levels the playing field, all players are equal, it doesn't take skill to get a disarm. In Doom if you can't do 360 double bunny jump triple overflip trickshot noscop zoopity bops with a BFG at 1000 miles then you are at a hopeless disadvantage and that's gay.
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>>126149007
>Which shows it's age quite badly
In what way?

Are you trying to imply that Byond is any better? It's a fucking MUD engine with ugly-ass sprites.

>is capable of handling 50+ players
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KbH2rtC6ks

large playercounts on Zandronum has been a thing since fucking forever.
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>>126149007
>Doom "engine"
>shows it ages quite badly

Doom's source port engines are as powerful as most other free modern engines. It can push full 3d graphics, effects, 3d maps, and other such things. Take a look at Zdoom or Zandronum. Modern Doom is just old doom wads running on vastly more powerful and capable engines.
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>>126149084
>SS13 is great because it levels the playing field, all players are equal
You're just used to SS13, it's easy to get tripped up when you're new.
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>>126149084
>levels the playing field
>whoever attacks first wins since stuns are ggnore
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>>126149084
>It's bad because the skilled aren't hampered by a shitty combat system
Good. Maybe fluke ops won't get their shit pushed in 9/10 times.
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>>126147785
>>126147970
The issue I've had is something that might be fixed without having to go knitler on people.

And to the guy who stopped playing: if the cancer is shitters, the state of the server is much better than it was a year ago. It's especially evident as how over the past year I went from new player to admin.

If the cancer is RPfags, Hippie is public and more your speed.
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>>126149283
Too bad anon is making his SS13 in Doom instead of whatever Zandronum is. Didn't think that through did you?
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>tfw no anaesthetic as your lungs are cut out of your chest
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>>126149604
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>>126149604
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>>126149679
>>126149790
Nice samefag
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>>126149480
>If the cancer is RPfags, Hippie is public and more your speed.
For some reason people love to complain about how /vg/ is too RP for them or not RP enough for them or is too much of a pussy in regards to powergaming or powergames too much or what the fuck ever have you

when there's literally other servers that fit exactly what they're describing

yet the thought of playing in those servers never occurs to them, instead, they insist on /vg/ becoming more like THOSE servers
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>>126149480
Not him, but I'm still trying to find my niche.

I see two camps of equally unfavorable approaches to spess: to abide the graytide or get gay with the role play.

Decisions, decisions. Stuck between a rock and a hard place, really.
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>>126150009
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>>126149480
Shitters I can deal with. Slip, strip, throw down the disposal shoot. Easy as fucking cake. Nothing has ever been as bad as early 2014 where valid hunters would literally grab you whenever they saw your PDA out, table you and check it if it was unlocked.

The issue being the community and server culture devolved into memeing newfags.
>If the cancer is RPfags, Hippie is public and more your speed.
I don't like autists who need to use this game as a vessel for a social life, which I've never been convinced that baybie arr peers are anything less. That's not really a reason to quit, but you are a cancer no less.

Also I like how I stopped playing on pomf's shitty iteration of /vg/ a year ago and yet you spout the same "Go play on the GRIEFSTATION SHITLORD" as though it has any weight. Creepy, cringey assburgers are a blight, but don't make yourself think you are any more relevant or "correct" than the shitting valid hunting assistants that sprint out of maintenance and swing at anything wearing the color red. You are both your own types of shit.
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Great race of Yith when?
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>tfw everyone you enjoyed playing with now rarely log on if ever
I understand that autistic grey a little more now
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>>126150136
When you make it.
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>>126150070
People who whine about anything to do with the way the server is played are just that: cry babies. There is no RP and there is no Shittery. It's a blend of all kinds of players with varying levels of everything. The only rule to RP is that you have to at least pretend you are a spaceman on a space station. That's it. You don't have to emote, or waifu, you won't get banned because you couldn't justify why you murderboned as an antag, you don't have to do shit. The server staff is very hands off.
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Which admin do you wish would come back?
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>>126150462
kilkun
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>>126150462
kingston
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>>126150316
>tfw my favorite player I befriended doesn't play much anymore and just observes
>and I always see them observing me when I ghost
Not sure whether to feel inspired or heartbroken.
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>>126150462
Senaat.
He was da best. Shine on you crazy diamond
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>>126150462
Senaat
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>>126150462
Yahir
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>banning HOS and Warden for working together

shitmins pls
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some terminator shit right here
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>>126150786
>>126150773
Senaat left? What happened?
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>>126151103
He's just not admin anymore. Still plays.
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>>126150108
The validhunting is nowhere near that bad anymore, nor do we have bay-tier autism since Shiggs left. F

As for telling people to fuck off to griefstations, that's because we do get people who fit in there perfectly and demand that we allow people to randomly toolbox and killbait. And seeing as how this is an anonymous forum of discussion, I have no idea of who you are or what you're like, so I cover both bases, so to speak.

If we let the validhunters roam free, the entire station does and security is never played because they're seen as the enemy.

If we let the roleplayers roam free, nothing ever happens and two-thirds of the station goes braindead, just like Bay has.

Instead, we strike a good balance here now. Some people talk in the bar/hallways/autismfort for an hour while some people hunt down the confirmed antag (i.e. the nuke ops or that fukken wizard). The extreme validhunters got removed and so the balance of RP and valids is strong. It's the time to come back, anon.
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>captain
>AI goes rogue
>someone requests a copy of the Faith AI to replace our rogue one
>I play Faith

Fuck my heart tingled a bit there.
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>>126151216
>The extreme validhunters got removed
?
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>>126150316
Which autistic grey? Theres a lot of them anon.
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>>126149621
eyyy, I gave you the tank, I assumed you'd put it on and turn it on, sorry, man
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>>126151216
>Wizard
>Just miming people
>Paramedic starts throwing shards at me after I flub a mime and word gets out what I look like
>Cremate him
>Go back to miming people while the nerds go have their snow station comfy
>mfw I have no face
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>>126151294
It's a reference to an old game called Uplink.

The basic plot of it is that you're a hacker, and bad guys are planning on releasing a super-computer virus called Revelation to destroy the internet. The program made to counter that virus is called Faith.
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>>126151216
>The extreme validhunters got removed
Mate we had a botanist that killed a Scientist because he baited them into coming inside Hydroponics to fetch a bucket (his premise was that if he followed him inside, he was a ling, even though he had no reason to believe he was a ling, and he wasn't a ling), would spray polyacid and wait with guns in hand for Sec to come through the door, fed the captain Spiritbreaker and killed him just because he was playing a gimmick that involved corgi meat, all of this as non-antag, all in the same round.
Nuke sided with him and the ban request thread was fucking deleted when people started calling out the bullshit.
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>>126151504
Oh, well now I just feel silly and embarrassed.
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>>126151570
Don't feel bad, even in its own time the game was rather obscure.
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>>126151314
What the anon I quotes said. We don't have people checking every PDA for one being unlocked, we don't have people running around trying to toolbox the guy that the clown said extended a proboscis. We don't have the autistic officers who loot the janicart and galoshes and carry 3 eguns in their backpack so they can't get killed by DA ANTAG.

And we don't have greyshits who treat Sec like loot pinatas, because we told them to fuck off too.

I guess the Gestapoing already happened and is happening, but in the direction that the server wants.

You don't see people lubing floors then searching people who slip for antag gear anymore.
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>>126151549
>would spray polyacid
Meant to type "space lube", I have no clue how polyacid got there
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>>126151570
How shameful
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>>126150462
Duny.
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>>126151549
That situation was a clusterfuck on all sides. I only skimmed the ban request and can't be arsed to go through the logs since I do my job for free.

It is a shame that the thread got deleted, though.

>>126151448
You're saying that a validhunter got killed while the rest of the station didn't care? That's really common on /vg/, and literally nobody in that situation was in the wrong.
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>>126151407
all g, i just ran out of time between removing oxygen, putting it in the bag, and turning on internals
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>>126152243
>feeding someone 35u spiritbreaker over extremely nebulous reasons that you couldn't even hold up well in your ban request
That alone deserves a ban.

Also, the whole thing happened during EXTENDED
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>>126148549
I think you were supposed to say "I stopped playing on /vg/ in late 2014, because the cancer had become too much to handle". I don't blame you though: tenses are difficult!
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>>126152367
Seeing as how I didn't handle the ban request, I'm not gonna weigh in on it.

I will add that spiritbreaker is a hell of a drug, and 35u is haram.
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>>126152243

deleting it makes it more fishy he trying cover up for some one i bet.

it all was extended round to test shit.
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>>126151216
Shiggy left?
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New Chemists, have these:

Original guide I learned from
http://pastebin.com/KuSwepNg

Updated version with slightly different preferences
http://pastebin.com/LMKExbDk

And the actual guide, be sure to control-f the fuck outta this for efficiency
http://ss13.pomf.se/wiki/index.php/Guide_to_Chemistry#Medicine
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>>126152801
Inactive, more like. Life comes before spess, anon.
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>>126152847
knowing what to do is a thousand times more helpful than knowing what buttons to press to make X chemical
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>>126152972
Yeah, You're right.

It's usually
>make mix
>make extra dex+(5u), rye(1u), alk(10u) and shit
>make healing pills, all 10u each (anti tox, tricord, bicard, derma/kelo, etc)
>then niche chems (ethyl, spaceacillin, tramadol, inacusiate, imidazoline etc)

>>126152847
Here's a standard cryomix that hopefully isn't shit, please criticize
http://pastebin.com/f2ezbEaw
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>Singubeacon
Terrible fucking traitoring. Just give everyone else in the round that isn't traitor their time back cause you're wasting it.
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>>126152972
You learn what chemicals are needed . I prefer just having a list with the overdose limits along with what they do.
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>>126153371
>please criticize
Grab an autoinjector and use a needle to pull 5u doctor's delight out and squeeze it into the mix. Also I like to add a little iron to help recoup some bloodloss. Just whatever you do don't add synap or hyperzine.
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>tfw people you like leave spess

Will you come back?
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>>126153726
or coffee
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>>126153748
I keep having to take breaks to avoid killing everyone in this shithole
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>>126153748
I don't know.
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>>126153726
>>126153748
Coffee is awful for any cryomix and 5u DD is basically nothing. Just stick to the basics.
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>>126153371
There's a lot wrong with it but I won't type it all out in my phone. At least it has the 3 chems that matter so it still works fine.
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>tfw discover something extremely broken and dying to tell the thread but want to abuse it before it gets nerfed
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>>126154374
don't tell, the last two dozen fun bugs and tricks I found were coded out.

I am forever salty that headless men aren't a thing any more. and I can't do my single pill all superpowers mutagen trick.
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>>126154463
>single pill all superpowers mutagen trick.
I'm curious
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>>126154203
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh what's wrong with it?
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>>126155089
back in the day, unstable mutagen would trigger all activated mutation blocks, and give one side effect.

You could use this to quickly identify and distribute all powers within 15 minutes.
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today i will bully deadpoolj
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>>126141571
I'd announce it to the station that you're doing after asking the QM (if you aren't him) otherwise you're gonna look like a prick when you get boinked, I still wouldn't do it
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Robotics friend, my internet is boned, I'll try to get back soon
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>>126155175
Too much clonex and cryox, make their amount the same as other complimentary chems. I always use 20 each.
5u rye is 4u too much.
Nowhere near enough dex+
Needs anti-rads. Try 5u-10u arith which you should have as byproduct from rye.
Excellent work on 10u alk
Excellent work on prioritizing antitox above all
Excellent work putting tricord at the bottom lowest of the barrel
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>>126155371
but im going to bed, so hurry up
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>>126155738
Don't go
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How do i into making sprites?
What program should i use?
I tried but i failed so hard
just like everything i do
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>>126157030
fucking anything just zoom in so a pixel is huge
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so whats the deal with IAG ban?
fill me with the drama and tell me what did he spoil that made celt mad enough to stickyban him
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKiISfXXw0o


So how bad is Hippie Station?
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Someone post the end round screen, I couldn't get it to come up. The fuck even happened?
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>>126158097
really bad. would rather ban for icky in ooc rather than someone who killed while admins were gone
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http://pastebin.com/dBb5RAtq

racist niggers
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>>126158235
Vox Raiders
Sec team was not shit for once
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Vox dudes, the fuck happened. I was all hyped for Capitalism and then we cut a deal to either entice the clown to join you or we drug him and ship him off with you if he's a lawbreaking shitter.
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>>126158235
>Vox raid station
>All of them are disorganized and dont stick together
>Some of them fuck up a trade deal that was in their favor
>Some asswipe steals my ID to go make a comms console so he can spam comms with dank memes
>Come across dead vox in my armor (that I let him have) in genetics and get powers
>Decide to end the round and go find the vox ship
>One last surviving vox at shuttle
>Ask him to end it
>He goes braindead
>Kill round as station vox
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Why was heist added back into the rotation, anyways
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>walk into robotics
>borg doorcrushes me
>the roboticist decides to try and borg me instead of shaking me back up or dragging me to medbay
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>be roboticist
>loot medbay for corpses
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>>126158446
Throws people off as its a gamemode that can foster roleplay.
Sadly this round, instead of the vox trying to roleplay with sec and the AI trying to kill them all the vox were the ones not playing along as they got themselves all killed off
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>>126158327
>Go to get guns for the deal with one of the raiders we talked with in brig
>[deconstruction noises intesify]
>Sit in a locker
>Two vox come in
>Shoot them up
>Try to talk over your freq with their headsets but no bites.
>Tells us it was the clown
>Chicken nuggets
Guess this is what happens when when you get Illegal immigrants
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>>126158595
Tbh senpai you were one of the best HoS I have ever served under
was a pleasure
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>>126158595
That vox was legit a station vox, I was the clown and trying to figure out what he wanted.

Robotics was the most disrespectful i've ever seen, I brought them blunts and honks and they tried to debrain me, luckily I removed ALL the floor tiles in the science hallway and robotics twice otherwise i'd have felt offended.
Also what the fuck was up with Roy whatever trying to kidnap me with a flasher?
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>People defending powergaming Validhunters

errytime
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>>126159176
who?
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>>126159605
>no malf

Uhhh

okay
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>>126159715
Fuck
I knew i was missing something
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>>126159605
>cult
>good
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So I still seem to be having these drop outs with the byond client around the same time every night, where eventually it gets to the point where it gets stuck on this and I can't connect back until the next day. All out of ideas.
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>>126159949
Cult has a lot of the game features of Changeling without the necessity of removing more and more players the longer the round goes.
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>>126159715
>>126159861
>>126159949
http://strawpoll.me/6334911
Fix'd
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>>126160181
You should do a multiple choice vote just to gauge the overall popularity of all round types, to be quite honest with you familia.
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>>126158821
Next time he shoiuld shout i'm on the manifest bro! It gets too hard to keep track after a while
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>>126160702

open up the pda manifest
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>>126160740
Can only check for so many yahakayahayhaykahay and yahakayahayaykahay
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>>126155653
Could you explain the reasoning behind ricord being shitty? Thanks for all the advice. With the way cryo works, am I right in saying that more of a chemical in the mix means more metabolized per tick? Or does the amount only relate to how long it lasts before running out?
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>>126161037
It essentially does a poorer job than anything else. It's roughly 60% to do piddling healing.
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>>126158469
>>walk into robotics
>>borg doorcrushes me
No, no no no. The door crushed you on it's own.
That's instant karma for being a little shit that blocks door openings.

Roboticist was new and somewhat retarded, however.
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>>126150462
SJ
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>>126162203
>tfw assholes hacking doors turn off the safeties and don't fix it.
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>>126162203
>knew enough to law two the fuck out of the borg without saying law two outright
>new
>>
Borg law 2, tell me a story.
>>
Admins on this server are so autistic. Literally try to do ANYTHING fun at all and you get banned or worse. And they always talk down to you like they're so much better than you, what the fuck?
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>>126164416
looks like someone got banned for being shit
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>>126164416
Calm down, Satan
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>>126164416

>Literally try to do ANYTHING fun at all and you get banned or worse

Read the rules, it's only fun for you, adminhelp when it doubt

>And they always talk down to you like they're so much better than you, what the fuck?

They know much more about the game than you could hope to grasp in years (notably the codermins) and have handled enough shittlery to know how to handle it
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>>126165347

only the codermins know any thing about the game over all

last time i ahelp about atmos stuff admins were clueless about it.
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>>126135662
Nice.
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>>126165460

>Ahelp about atmos stuff

What exactly ?
>>
>>126164531
nexis merge my PR please
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So if an admin bwoinked me trying to initiate ERP and I participate, can I get banned for it?
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>>126150316
>Introduced into SS13 by cool dude from school from I can't remember when years ago
>Dedpop RP serb
>Friend never once mentions SS13 again
>Spend better part of a year getting down the spessics
>Never got more than 10ish players
>Join skype group regardless, things are cool, drama comes and goes on the forums
>Edge out into other servers
>Have fun
>Server is merged into management with Para
>I forgot how long it's been since
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>empty beakers in cyro
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>>126165814
Man this looks awful.
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>>126164007
>"There once was a man who wasted my time"
>/me extends baton
>"And then I stripped and doorcrushed him to death while the AI ensures comms are having an "ionospheric anomaly""
Best story of the year all years
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>>126165814
ayy
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whos the best clown on vg? I need a mentor
>>
new player guide to ss13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr9mLP6NwnU
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>>126146481
I don't care about the rest of the map, but that escape shuttle is fucking sexy.
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>>126164416
>Don't kill people
>Don't end the round through singuloose, non-antag bombs, shuttles etc
>Don't blow shit up which pops people's lungs and then they die cause >vg medbay
It's not hard. Go to tgstation or something if you can't take it. They're more your speed.
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>>126166345
Why can't I signuloose if I want to
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>>126165814
>stormtrooper actually hitting something with blaster
>that one badass melee stormtrooper
Wat
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>>126166672
I guess stormtroopers were way better when they were clones
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>>126165814
has that nigger been eating bees?
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>>126166418
You can if you're an antagonist

If you want to singuloose and you're not an antagonist, this isn't the right community for you
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What are Goon admins like?
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>>126168687
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The brig cell timer code is 5 years old. It says so in the comments.
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>>126169585
recode it then
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>>126169847
I already am
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>>126141865
>>126144269

If you're still around, what format are these in? Doom supports .kvx (build engine voxels) as well as .md2/.md3. I -think- it may support .obj, but I'd have to double-check.

>>126142037

It's fine if it's the proper format - I have easy access to all the sprites, but if someone really wants to try and make 3D replacements, I won't turn down a couple of them at least for testing purposes so I can see if it's worth doing conversions of the rest.

>>126144646

There's a special place of disappointment in my heart reserved purely for Notch. I have my reasons.

Ken Silverman, however, is a cool guy.

>>126148395
>>126149007

It's being made for the dedicated multiplayer source port of the Doom engine with support for up to 64 players. As long as I handle the scripting cleverly, there's no reason why it wouldn't be able to support the essentials - there are maps with thousands of monsters actively doing things in the vanilla game, after all. Don't underestimate Doom. You'll likely need a decent server and connection to run it, though, but that's the case for any networked game.

>>126149084

You imply I'm doing an SS13 skin of Doom deathmatch. The player class has been thoroughly tweaked and so has the combat system (although the latter is still in progress).

>>126149604

But that's wrong, it's for Zandronum 3.0/4.0. Zandronum is an extended version of the Doom engine with specific adjustments for multiplayer - scriptable gamemodes, databases, authentication systems, et cetera.
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What does this mean?:

>Galactic Imperium Update

>Anomaly Alert

>Hostile runtimes detected in all station systems, please deactivate your AI to prevent possible damage to its morality core.

>Attention! Delta security level reached!
The station's self-destruct mechanism has been engaged. All crew are instructed to obey all instructions given by heads of staff. Any violations of these orders can be punished by death. This is not a drill.
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Why does the AI not have a hovering eye hologram?

why did I not get to do my AI gimmick all day despite playing with it on high priority a lot
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>>126170127
>Admins telling you something
>Random event
>AI engaged self-destruct countdown
>AI engaged countdown as above
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>>126169862
great
Age should not really determine when something needs a redo, and surely this isn't the case.

>>126144269
Until I see that under other set of shaders I'll still think it looks more of a minecraft whatever.

>>126170131
When
You
Sprite
It
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>>126170445
It has a bunch of bad code because it's old
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>>126168902
I wish they were that sexy, knowing them pretty well.
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What if toolboxes were removed?
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>>126171332
Spear usage intesfines
Kitchen and botany being raided for weapons.
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>>126171332
Quartermaster will remain useless.
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>>126171332
Tools falling out like spaghetti outta pockets.
Emergency lockers more painful to use.
Wires everywhere.
Iconic item loss
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If you could remove a single item from the game, which would it be and why?
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What's up with all the niggers itt defending powergaming?

And forced random names when?
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>>126172486
Anything to do with stun because it's impossible to defend against stun weapons without powergaming, and once you're stunned even once it's ggnore.
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>>126172486
Stunbatons to make shitcurity actually work.
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>>126172661
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>>126172594
Forced random would be lame, for one because everyone would be Generico Plainman every round and two because the constant level of at least some RP is what makes the server fun, playing a character is fun, building up reputations and exploiting them is fun.
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>>126173264
Building up reputations is METAGAYMAN
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>>126172486
Silicons, immune to too many kinds of stuns and create too much drama with law debates

Alternatively, add more fun ways to deal with silicons. Instead of slipping when they go over water puddles, they should get "flashed" and shoot out sparks. Same if someone splashes them with water.

They're already immune to slips (water, lube, bananas, soap, etc.), all atmos (sudden rush of air, air pressure, oxygen content in room), all temperature, all chemicals (poisoned food, smoke, chloral injectors, etc), all makeshift stuns (scrubgloves, shock sticks), pushes, ranged stun weapons (tasers, eguns, etc.), bleeds, many antag powers (ling stings, vampire stuff, etc.) - so you would think that just a water vulnerability wouldn't be so bad, right?
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Cool round
Made a bar on the roid
pls r8
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>>126173403
>pushes
I'm not actually too sure about this. I think there's a VERY slim chance you can actually push over a cyborg.
I know you can do it to MoMMIs.
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Wow.
Durands are the best.
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>>126172486
Assistants
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>>126173482
8/8
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>>126173482
Comfy if it has atmos

MY IMMERSION if not, because fire
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>>126173606
It did
then the fire made the atmos 70% nitrogen
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>>126173606
It did, even tried to make an airlock for them, but they noticed midway through construction, opened the door, and examined the shit out of those two walls as what little air in that room rushed into the roid
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>>126173651
>>126173669
>N2 actually went DOWN due to fire

FIRE DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY, good jorb on your atmos though
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>Detective tries to set fitness on fire repeatedly, fails, starts smashing into robotics before shooting the place up
>Tries to fuck with laws
>detective steals the HoP's shit while the HoP was dead
>Has done anything but his job all shift
>Some grey nigger steals the whole fucking armory and tosses it on the kitchen
>Delta status reached
>Like 10% of the crew can handle maxing sensors and of those people keep dropping off with Id's and gibs showing up in bad places
>Wont clone, wont clone everywhere
>It's double agents and the station time is 14:46
>Only tator action yvette dying then not cloning and xavier getting himself dunked from yvette's ebow while fucking the HoP in the captain's office
>Broken shit, fighting, rampant theft and corpses everywhere
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>>126173669
>examined the shit out of those two walls
now I feel autistic for doing that
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How can I test bombs when the first capped one destroys the observation room?
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>>126173589
>engineer
>no airlock chamber
Are you even trying?
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>>126173746
>engineer
I GOT IN BEFORE HE CLAIMS HE WAS TROLLING
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>>126173718
Test on the roid, I think the bombcap might also may not apply there? Or be higher or something

Plus it helps with mining
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>>126173264
It's literally metagaming, as opposed to playing a role. There is literally no reason why you can't add an rp twist to the role you're given just because you can't choose your name to be Hitler Garrison or Ebin Maymay (which both should get you banned for being underageb& desu senpai). This also greatly improves round freshness because each round you're pushed to playing a different role instead of keeping the same stale one every single round. It additionally improves rp because you get to improvise every round and think up new personalities, making any one of your favored roles more cohesive and making the station more like a station (where people die and get abandoned, with unique stories) instead of a playhouse for autists.
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>>126173718
I just teleport it to by the back lattice. don't even have to repair after tests

>>126173776
Please don't. You can clip and instacrit a miner as well as break artifacts. and no, it doesn't have a higher cap unless soemthing changed in the last month.
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>>126173787
Make an issue. The thread doesn't exist codewise.
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>>126173841
No one cares about miners or artifacts, you're doing the station a favor getting rid of them
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>>126173787
>which both should get you banned

Man, Hitler's like one of the only cool roboticists I see around most of the time, get out of here.
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>>126173867
I'm just putting this out there, I have no idea what you guys prefer.
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>>126173841
>break artifacts
Oh noooooooo, that machine that pops out random hostile mobs whenever the fuck it feels like it will be destroyed!
Whatever will we do?
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>>126173787
There's an admin button dedicated to random name, random face.

Last time I remember it being pressed

>OOC: Cisrox: WHY ARE WE ALL RANDOM

Then about 20 people killed themselves, each other, there were non-antag plasmafloods and bombing etc.

This place is a den of autism
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>>126173787
Miner with a name Digger Nick
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>>126173970
I admit to jumping out of airlocks and asking for adminbus role if I get spawned wrong.
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>>126169960
You should talk to the guy on 8ch who is making SS13 in unity
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>>126174004
This joke is way overdone (still funny).
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>>126174024
Pretty sure he stopped, he had no update in the past several months anyway.
Also,
>unity
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>>126173787
>It's literally metagaming, as opposed to playing a role.
Just setting aside everything else in your post because other people have probably got it, this is really dumb. Cmon, think about it, you don't actually believe that, right?

Or do you want to go over to /tg/ - Traditional Games and tell all those tabletop guys that they're not actually roleplaying because their characters knew each other from a previous session of the game? Knowing your coworkers and having relationships (not ERP or getting SPACE MARRIED you autist, I mean like 'I fucking hate Yahir he's an autist' or 'I know I can count on Hyun to at least do the R&D') is part of getting immersed.
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>>126173968
Have a less fun round because the ling or vamp or whatever it may be just powergames their ass off and 80% of the crew is dead and bored for a hour.
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>>126174786
>Artifacts make the round fun
Yeah I know, I like that stupid fucking artifact that drains APCs. Or the one that spews oxygen only under very specific conditions. Or the one really slow ass pod mech.
FUCKING RIVETING.
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>>126174889
They at least add something to the mix half the time, which is better than antag extended.
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>>126174024
>>126174092

Unity is crippled, which is sort of inevitable when you make the primary scripting languages C# and JS. Look at that SS14 remake project in C# that went three years only to produce a per-pixel line of sight effect - that's what I aim to avoid. It's kind of sad, they had pretty nice sprites.
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female variant added
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>>126175528
cute
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>>126175528
Why not look up actual male/female moth variations instead of just making the female one curvier?
You double nigger
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>>126175317
That's just incompetence, all that was needed for LoS is to use a pseudolight at the player's head and use the shadowmap as a hardmask using the stencil buffer. Takes all of one hour to setup without high-level abstractions.
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>>126175528
>that kind of sexual dimorphism
>in insects
>in space aliens
FUCKING MONKEYS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>126174282
It either results in the semi-conscious process: "I know this guy from previous rounds -> he is/isn't a shitter -> I will not/will give him all access just because he asked nicely" (this, by the way, actually happens very often in practice), or the more malign "I don't like this guy because he killed me early as antag last round, I'll grief him for the next week XD", which I've also seen happen a few times but is fortunately rarer than one would expect. Who cares that you, personally, are playing a role when someone else comes and ruins the round for you every round? Certainly not the faggot who's hounding you. Inb4 "just wear the armory at round start lol".
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>>126174786
>Nearly 3 hour double agent round
>Detective and assistant were better traitors than the double agents despite being non-antag
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>>126174282
> 'I know I can count on Hyun to at least do the R&D'
HOW THE FUCK ISN'T THAT LITERALLY METAGAMING YOU FUCKING INBRED?
>>
>Fix atmos on sec station
>Realize it's severely limited by a single gas pump
>Swap that, rooms are now pressurizing within a minute rather than within a year
>Bring in air canisters to help pressurize, open them at 101, the proper pressure
>People opening air canisters to full, killing the room
>People running around screaming "WHERE IS THE AIR" meanwhile there's a girder with metal next to it that they could have patched up in that time
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>>126176037
All round every round my friend :)
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>>126176120
Quit spergin out.
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>>126173787
>>126176030
>>126176120
Does literally no one read the rules anymore?

>5. Persistent characters and character relationships are fine, as long as they don't cause problems.
>5. Persistent characters and character relationships are fine, as long as they don't cause problems.
>5. Persistent characters and character relationships are fine, as long as they don't cause problems.
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>>126176214
>oh noes I got BTFO
>what do I do I have no argument
>I know, I'll call him a sperg!
>I WIIIIIIN!
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>>126176297
There are rules?
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>>126175528
>>126175634
>>126175846
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>>126176172
>Bring an air canister down into the main lobby
>Go look for the breach in the room
>Some chucklefuck grabs the tank and opens it at full pressure
>Blows me into a wall and leaves me in crit
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wew lad
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>>126176365
At least in the new X-COM the aliens were always fucking whacky, one of them was clearly made to be human in appearance, wouldn't surprise me if they actually gave new aliens features to appear human for cohesion.
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>>126176340
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>>126176297
Which is literally metagaming and is fucking disgusting when the result is that anyone not a regular is considered valid.
>>
>double agent
>Fuck the botanist I gotta kill, mining time
>order a bundle
>2 bombs, a suit, and a sink, cool!
>Buy a jetpack with mining dosh
>Some unrobust tators got caught, this will be a good excuse for shit
>Bomb open armory, say it was a dude flying through spess
>They prolly don't buy it but whatever
>Rob the armory of guns
>Mediborg rolls up when I get back inside, offers heals
>Fuck yeah
>Se some dude wandering in space
>HAHA PERFECT EXCUSE
>"OH SHIT THAT'S HIM!"
>SHOOT HIM DED outside borg's vision
>Time to "search" him
>take off his bag, getting ready to throw out MY guns to frame HIM
>THE MADMAN ACTUALLY HAS AN EMAG AND FREEDOM IMPLANT HAHA HE WAS ACTUALLY ANOTHER TRAITOR
>I tell the borg that he TOTALLY shot himself when I asked politely.
>After that, I fuck off to the shuttle that got called
>Everyone hops on
>Drop a bomb outside it
>BOOM
>Hop back on a minute later
>Some dude with an AR asks me to drop my bag
>fuck that shit
>stun
>space his gun
>HE HAS ANOTHER
>I DRAW MY LASER
>SHUTTLE SHOOTOUT
>We get to centcomm, I murderbone everyone else, badabingbadaboom objectives secured
>>
>33 players online
>at this hour
>I know maybe 3 of them
[WAKE ME UP INSIDE]
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>>126176871
>>I know maybe 3 of them
And?
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>>126176871
>>I know maybe 3 of them
Is this supposed to be a bad thing?
Fuck of metagaming faggot.
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>>126176030
>Who cares that you, personally, are playing a role when someone else comes and ruins the round for you every round?
Then you can personally choose to randomname, but it's stupid to force everyone else to randomname just because you're getting griffed.

And who cares if less shitter get all access? All access doesn't need to be handed out to anyone who asks nicely anyway.
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>>126176645
Okay bud, go ahead and nonantag murder someone who random-names next round, go ahead. Let's see if the admins say it was valid.

Here's your chance to prove you're right and prove me wrong. Don't miss it!
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>>126177143
forced random name, random appearance, and random gender every round when?
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>>126177261
Hopefully never
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>>126177261
Certainly never.
That would lead to even harder snowflake with the introduction of female Dionas.
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>>126177261
>random gender
Our "female" players are already cringeworthy niggers, imagine people who don't want to actually play as them.
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>>126177571
Female Dionae were actually a thing, when they were first implemented they couldn't properly evolve from nymphs, so they had to be shoved into genetics for proper growth which gave them a random gender.
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>>126177580
>giving Medbay something to do and change gender
>bad
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i haven't slept at all and i've been listing to off's ost for for like 30 minutes and made this for some reason
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>>126177814
You can never get rid of your female name, it's like a FtM monstrosity factory.
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>>126177894
There should be a popup to change your first name when you're reassigned gender.
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>>126177818
>Overlapping colors
What are you, four?
Get out of here, you're disgusting.
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>>126177894
thought that was the point of xenoarch's dna scrambler/waifumachine large artifacts
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>>126178113
i made clwon too
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>>126178396
YOU'RE STILL OVERLAPPING COLORS, STEADY YOUR HAND NIGGER
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>>126178474
CANT TELL ME WHAT TOO DO
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>>126142069
>what limitations i have
bay go home
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>>126178704
But you won't improve with that attitude.
He may be abrasive, but it's legit constructive criticism.
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>>126177143
I random named. The admins told me to "git gud" when I was non-antag murdered by HoS. So yeah, it's valid to kill anyone apparently.
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>>126179063
yeah well your a poop face
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Can someone give me a quick run down of how the /tg/ station and /vg/ station servers are different in terms of gameplay mechanics? I noticed much less lag on /vg/ for one
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>>126179082
I'm sure this is in no way taken out of context, and will definitely have evidence.
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>>126177081
>someone gives all-access to the clown because of metafriending
>clown is tator and kills you
>alternatively, clown isn't tator and kills you (or kidnaps you, same thing really) FOR TEH LULZ XD
If people aren't all random-named (random appearance a plus), then you get griffed if you're not part of the metaclique. This is fact. This is happening all the fucking time. The admins think it is OK apparently.

>All access doesn't need to be handed out to anyone who asks nicely anyway.
All access should never be given out without a good reason that is not "because there muh metafrind xdddd". That's just not what's happening.
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>>126177818
I sometimes doodle on my laptop before going to bed but I never post it.
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>>126179347
I just stay away from the HoP, there's been a lot of cancer out of that department lately.
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>>126177261
No way, how am I going to metagame like that?
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>>126179436
Skype you idiot, sheesh!
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TRUE

NORTH
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>>126179082
Please posts the logs to back up your claim.
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>>126179271
I was literally in the bar doing nothing but I'm sure everything is lacking context when it proves you wrong.
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>some guys with "dorf potash maker" and "dorf lye maker"
>used to treat me like shit
>I made like 20 plump helmet roasts for them one day
>now they're bros
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>>126177261
When you join another server you shitface
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>>126179548
Yes anon, in an entire round of interactions and happenings this is in no way taken out of context whatsoever.
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>>126179538
>why didn't you record the logs in advance of being griffed 2 months ago?
Ebin, simply ebin.
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>Scientist
>Getting some comfy R&D done
>Couple of requests for stuff, oblige them all
>Miner brings materials immediately
>Start building Ripley + diamond drill for him
>PEW
>Culted
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>>126179626
Called it.
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>>126179237
One of the major differences I feel between TG and /vg/ is medical.

You can tell someone fresh off the TG boat on /vg/ because the first thing they do is hoard bandages and ointment thinking they can become invincible with a pack of bandaids to put on their booboos.

Rely to this post with other stupid things /vg/ newbies from VG do.
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>>126179743
You gave anecdotal evidence with no back up, how the fuck am I supposed to believe anything you say?
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>>126179803
>Reply to this post with other stupid things /vg/ newbies from TG do

Nonantag murder
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>>126179803
Shit, /vg/ newbies from TG*

I'm pretty drunk right now.
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>>126179907
is that a thing on tg? how awful.
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>>126179648
If it happens so often why don't you just get a log from today? Don't even plan ahead, just observe a round and get logs after this next one
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>>126179803
try to ERP with the admins
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>>126179648
Then i dare you to join the game as HoS right now and kill a random namer.
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>>126179803
>>126179929

Drapes
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>>126179963
It's a combination of mostly casualized things on /tg/

For instance, bleeds don't fuck you up
Detective's revolver does 0 or like 2 damage
Less damage all around from shit like stabbing and shocks

They just want to fuck someone up and end up murdering someone because beating someone for no reason is okay on /tg/
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>>126180146
this
I remember when I first came to vg from tg I didn't know how to start surgery because there weren't any drapes.
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>>126179803
Try to climb on tables and bitch IC and OOC when they can't.

It always gets a chuckle out of me.
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>>126179813
c a l l e d

i
t
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>>126179648
there's some bullshit that goes on with admins but it's usually more nuanced than this.

I have to believe you are telling a highly edited version of the story.
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>>126179237
Don't play as if everything was the same. Only the most basic logic stays the same.

No animations, no clown worship, only ZAS, final destination.
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>>126179976
Because why would I waste my time autistically like that when I could
1- play on a non-shit server
2- play a game where no such issues arise
3- watch cinema
4- start my own ss13 server
5- do some work instead of lazing around even though I'm not paid by the hour
?
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>>126180684
IT'S A BIG ONE
WE'RE GONNA NEED A BIGGER THREAD
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>>126180085
Are you gonna do it or not? I don't see why you wouldn't, you won't get banned anyway.
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I don't even know how to get logs or record one.
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>>126180958
http://ss13.pomf.se/logs/
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>>126180958
Right-click on the text-pane and click start recording or something like that.
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>>126180958
http://ss13.undo.it/logs/2015/
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>>126180814
See >>126179548
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>just wanna autism crab
>people keep ending the round before I can do anything fun

Please stop interfering with my fun
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>>126182868
Only killing is fun! Why aren't you wearing full armor a minute after roundstart? Where are your 5 xray guns? Fucking unrobust faggot!
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So are we getting a pomfmas this christmas, or is this going to be another sad year at the chicken orphanage?
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>>126163152
little late but
>Asked me to bring a scalpel and a saw when they were literally on a table two tiles away from him
>Asked me to go print two flashes in R&D when there were 6 synth flashes right next to him
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>>126181393
And see >>126179626 for counterpoint.
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>>126184447
See >>126179743
Consider investing in some buttcream.
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>>126184535
Consider investing in some proof it ever happened. Why should I believe this one random anon over everyone else?
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>>126184676
If random names are not valid'd, surely you'll have no problem playing as random name, right?
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>>126185183
Have you killed a randomnamer yet? You seem to be ignoring me for some reason.

Why won't you play as Sec and kill a random name to prove your point? Are you scared?

Did you realize you got called out and can't back it up? It's okay to admit you lost, friendo.
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>>126185183
I've never had a problem with it before.
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>See all this hubbub about Goon
>Decide to play on the RP server, since it's supposed to be light RP
>Hmm, let's play as scientist.
>Have no idea what the fuck this map even is, click on the map button and am brought to a scrolling and zooming map that is more than just a static image
>It's like a pickaxe
>Eventually find science
>Look up telesci on the wiki, have no idea what the fuck this shit is, there are 3 types of teleportation devices and they all require algebra degrees to use them
>Go to chemistry
>greeted by some familiar machines, and something called a chemcompiler
>Chemcompiler's interface is like an old calculator, look it up on the wiki, have to have a computer engineering degree to decipher how to use it, moving pointers and registers and shit and it doesn't even look like a real programming language holy fuck
>go to misc science
>All kinds of fucky machines sitting around a terminal called "Dwaine"
>Try to use the terminal
>Greeted by a fucking Linux interface
>Have to insert my ID to login via the command "term_login"
>This whole fucking thing is like a linux command prompt
>Fuck this shit, go to toxins
>Holy fuck even this shit is all fucked up what the fuck does this shit even do
>Leave and go out to investigate the station
>A wizard pops out of nowhere and makes me a clown that makes fast zombie noises
Why do people even play on goon?
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>>126182868
Go play on the test server.
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>>126185672
sounds extremely autistic

some people are into that
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>>126185672
To see what happens when shit is so complicated nobody but master autists can use it.
Also, it's funny when science goes horribly wrong like Half-Life.
*fart
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Which items can I recycle for plastic?
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>>126186575
Plastic Mushrooms form the botaneest
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>>126186575
t3 parts recycle into plastic
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>>126185672
>So dumb he can't even type "help" or "ls"
>Doesn't know the chemicompiler is essentially useless unless you are a hardcore powergamer looking to make a serum that explodes into a fireball and sprays nerve agent everywhere
>Doesn't know how to xenoarch

Fucking pubbies.
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>>126186912
Any of those items in the derelict?
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>>126187256
plastic flaps then
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>>126186575
plastic flaps
crowbar, wrench, welder
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>>126187332
>>126187351
What the hell is a plastic flap?
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>>126187471
They're the things Cargo's MULEs go under when delivering shit to a department. The sprite is a few black lines. Generally, they're behind little windoors, and if you disassemble the flaps, you get plastic.
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>>126187617
And where can I find some of those aboard the derelict?
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Shouldn't have told me about that machine heart homie, you were just asking for an ion'ing.
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>>126188661
Oh I knew it was coming as soon as you took out your ion rifle I was just hoping to stun you first but I missed both shots.
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TRAY TOR BORER inside a stormtrooper

fitting
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>Theres crew members on RIGHT NOW that would rather let every other crew member die than talk to a vox

Thats some extreme racism
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>When you want to pAI but no-one picks you up
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>>126186913
>pubbies
what the shit does that even mean in the context of ss13?
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>>126187774
You don't
The Derelict belongs to the miners and everyone who goes there
Your solars are meant to be torn up for metal and glass, to feed the autolathe that we will rightfully take
Your R&D room is only for our printing and manufacturing, we will create the circuit boards we need, we will make the items we want, and when we leave, we'll take the chemdispenser
Your gas miners and atmos room will all be used for our purposes and afterwards quickly deserted, no matter what you had in mind for them
Your teleporter is nothing more than a convenient machine for us to take and move into our ship

And we'll give you the privilege of watching
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>>126188880
That was me, get fucked you slimy cunt

I wasn't taking time out my busying robot building schedule to make you some batteries to power your fucking nitrogen bong or whatever the fuck. Vox are nothing but schemeing, vile, stealing, ugly genetic freaks who need to fuck off into space without a space suit. Fuck knows why they're even allowed on the station, nevermind given command roles. Send all vox to the outpost and then nuke it

God bless terra firma
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I'll tell you the difference between /vg/, /tg/, and Hippie for those of you who are simply too scared to log into a different server and try it yourself.

VGcuckstation.

>Long and boring rounds, hardly any antags, Heads of Staff, or Security
>Admin circle jerk in full effect RIP if you piss the admins off
>Same game modes played over and over again, no variety
>Shit tons of non humans shitting the place up with their furry shit
>No features, tons of misc quality things missing like falling down animations and things like that
>Xenophobic player base afraid of being anything like their boogeymen servers
>Full of people who love to recall the shuttle and have 4 hour long rounds so they can build a shitty room in space that they will sit in and "RP" in by having shallow conversations with their meta buddy
>Low pop
>Everyone is a cuck to the antags and lets them walk all over them for fear of being called a valid hunter. Expect "Friendly" wizards, changelings, and vampires.

/tg/station

>Good population size with all jobs filled and a good amount of antags
>Rounds last about an hour, hour fifteen usually.
>Admin circle jerk, but it's extended to the headmins only, and they're changed out every once in a while. Admins disagree more often instead of sucking each other off perpetually like on /vg/
>Actually has good features
>Playerbase is diverse and not full of bay rejects
>Non humans but less of them
>Players know when to end a round and know that most people don't have fun after a certain mark is met. No autists saying "HURR CALLING THE SHUTTLE BECAUSE NOTHING IS HAPPENING IS NOT A REASON TO CALL LET'S STAY HERE FOREVER UNTILL SOMETHING MAGICALLY HAPPENS"
>Much more happens in general
>Players aren't cucked by antags. Not afraid to fight back if some guy is going around killing people.
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>>126148245
I was using it for friendly shenanigans.

This is truly shitcurity.
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>>126189090
You know, if I had some plastic, I could get more loot ready for when the miners come.

It's the derelict MoMMI duty to make it a nice place again.
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>>126189198
in other words
"I got banned from /vg/ but the retards at TG haven't banned me yet so i'm going to shitpost"

Here's your (You).
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>>126189198
anon you forgot hippie
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>>126189198
it's a shame you've been banned from all of those other stations you like so much better than us, huh sarca?
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>>126189198
Have a (You), you sound pretty desperate.
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>>126189013
People who are not donors.

I.e. people who play on their server for free.
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>>126189198
You're trying way too hard with that word, it's embarrassing.
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>>126189198
>playerbase is diverse and not full of bay rejects

Didn't you just fucking say we'd rather sit in a room and RP for 4 hours?

Fuck off with the shit posting bro.
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>>126189198
Anon you gonna tell us the difference with hippie?
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What's the naughtiest thing you've done in spess?
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>>126189989
ERP'd with DragonBro on /vg/
Why do you think he's so anti-ERP?
He's covering his own ass so he doesn't look like an ERP sympathizer
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>>126189989
I didn't lock the security locker after gearing up.
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>>126189540
no pubbies is who plays on public server
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>>126189346
Permabanned from /tg/ actually. And from /vg/. Doesn't stop me from ban evading to play again. Nice try though, I know how to be objective. Take a long hard look in the mirror you VGcuck.

>>126189447
>>126189952
Ran out of room.

Hippie

>Rounds are about 45-1 and a half long
>Really high pop when compared to prep the bull station
>Lots of chaos and greytide, GREAT for playing Security and Antag, have a higher chance of getting antag than other stations
>Sometimes irritatingly little RP. Some players will OOC in IC, but are usually called out for it in a passive aggressive way, "WHAT IS A ROUND??"
>Admins are much more fair, bans are shorter and if you prove the admins wrong they won't keep you banned out of spite and will actually lift the ban
>Most of the players are absolutely retarded, not obnoxious, but just braindead stupid.
>Not enough valid hunting, if someone's murderboning nobody really tries to stop him unless they mess with him first.
>Code manages to remove some shitty aspects of the /tg/ code base.
>More powergaming from antags when compared to /tg/.
>Doesn't seem to be much of a point in doing your job if you're not a certain type. Only people who actually seem to try are Science, Silicons, Medbay, and Security.

There. I was as fair as possible in all 3 cases.
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>>126190615
>if you prove the admins wrong they won't keep you banned out of spite and will actually lift the ban
Sarcalogo I don't think anybody in this entire server has had so many second chances (and third, and fourth, and fifth...) as you did
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>>126151216
>F

I'm all sunshine and lolipops, now that he's gone.
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>>126189989
Popped underage cherry and came inside.
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>>126190615
What point is there in your words and existance? Why do you try so hard to soil the world with your worthless presence? Why don't you just die?
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>>126189013
pubbie = non-goon
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>>126190184
Closest thing that's happened to ERP with me is as follows

>Shiggy's being lewd, drop in a bear to mess with him
>Suddenly a paramedic drags SHB to dorms, bolts the door, and starts stripping
>Maul his arms off
>Kool-aid through the wall to a confused vox
>"You don't wanna go in there"
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>>126189198
Honestly sarca I will agree with you on this our admins fucking suck.

But thats our fault considering we drive some of our best admins away, with a growing playerbase that at it's peak can end up having more then yogstation we need good qualified admins. It's not pomf's fault he makes someone admin whos only been playing for a year, has barely skimmed the rules, and has a few good notes. We have admins leaving daily and pomf has to keep up with that demand. However it is pomf's fault that the admin base is so unclear of the rules. If anything really needs to be redrafted its the rules because nuklear permabanning people and deadminning over a shitty movie isn't fucking cool.
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>>126190858
in spess, anon.
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>>126190791
What? I had my blatantly wrong 1 week ban upped to a perma sticky ban after I appealed. The banning admin never responded, and nobody ever conceded that the ban reason was 100 percent wrong, even though I provided logs and proved everything I said. Instead the admins focused on what I did do in the round and tried to argue after the fact that what I did was bannable, even though I demonstrated it wasn't by quoting the rules, and showing analagous cases. There was no fourth, fifth, or sixth. At most it was 3. I've LEFT and come back four five or six times, usually to play other games or deal with more time consuming RL things, not been banned that many times.
>>126190910
What point is there in your words or existence? What kind of an idiotic question is that? Go talk to a priest or something you existential faggot. I've simply offered my thoughts on a subject that was being discussed intermittently throughout the thread. If you don't like it that's a shame, but I am just another Anonymous poster and have the same "rights" as anyone else does.
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>>126191305
>because nuklear permabanning people and deadminning over a shitty movie isn't fucking cool.
you're fucking retarded
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>>126191307
Exactly.
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Okay here's my idea for a new race

CATBOYS (Feline Homo is the greek name)

Pros:
-Cute! C U T E !
-Faster, because they have cat like reflexes
-Can scratch with claws instead of punching, does more damage
-Can talk in :q for qt catboy speak, only other catboys can hear it
-Can use tail like a hookshot

Cons:
-Cannot wear hardsuits because the tail gets in the way
-Getting wet makes lie on the floor until it dries up, because cats hate water
-Prone to meowing unintentionally
-If the tail gets hurt during the hookshotting, they take extra damage (x1.5 maybe?) because standing on a cat's tail is bad

Also, no female Feline Homos, obviously

Lore pastebin should be up soon
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>>126191386
>I've simply offered my thoughts on a subject that was being discussed intermittently throughout the thread.
You don't seem to understand. your thoughts have no value of any kind. Nobody cares about your thoughts. Nobody wants you here. Fuck off.
>If you don't like it that's a shame, but I am just another Anonymous poster and have the same "rights" as anyone else does.
You're not 'another Anonymous poster' you fucking autist -- you are, regrettably, a person of sorts. You should change that. Kill yourself so you can truly become the worthless non-entity you believe yourself to be.
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>>126190795
Celebration time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Fgp-KihIA
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I'm trying to draw some player feedback here.
How do you feel about the current availability of Diona seeds? Should it be possible to get infinite amounts of Diona seeds easily or not?
What other ways to get Diona seeds can you think of (i.e. limit new seed creation to grown Dionas to encourage them to evolve).
I will be creating a poll shortly so everyone can weigh in.
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>>126191596
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>>126191386
lol he just admits he's the turbofaggot himself now
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Why dont you fuckers played zoomed all the way out? In bar you can see happenings anywhere.
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>>126191781
What's so funny, anon?
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>>126191596
>Cannot wear hardsuits because the tail gets in the way
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>>126191954
Sprite and code it. Remember the sprites need to fit around ever piece of clothing in the game.
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>>126192015
you know tails are part of an animal's spine, right?
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>>126191954
Your life.
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A GUY WAS BANNED FROM GITHUB FOR USING EGGPLANT EMOJIS

BACK TO GITLAB, LADS!!!
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>>126192015
That'd be pretty awful, man. I'm pretty sure you'd get banned for doing that.

>>126192072
Wait, if I actually do it, you'll merge it?

>>126192193
Rude
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>>126192245
Gitlab is even worse. The only options are gitgud or neetco.de
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>>126192298
Furry fagboys are valid.
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>>126192298
Celt, please. You're embarrassing yourself.
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>>126191604
It seems to me that value is subjective, but what do I know? You're the genius. Do you disagree? It's up to you then, please educate me. I'd love it if I were wrong tell me, how do we objectively determine something's value? It seems like a useful skill to have. I'd love it if you told me.

But even ignoring that, let's assume you're correct. Nobody cares about my thoughts, and nobody wants me here. Why should that deter me? After all, I'm just another Anonymous poster, and while maybe you're right, perhaps it is ME they don't care for, I'm sure they'll be fine with Anonymous. And if not, and Anonymous is shunned as well, does that really matter? Are you saying that if someone has things that people disagree with that these things should not be expressed? If so, how can progress be made? Can you answer any of these questions?

>>126191954
>Draw a girl
>Call it a boy
simply ebin japanese meme.
>>126191305
It's not hard to be an admin. You wait for the adminhelps to come in. If someone says something happens, you adminhelp the other person and asked what happened. They tell you, and you tell the person who admin helped what they said. If there's a conflict in what they say, you check the logs and see who's telling the truth. You then evaluate whether or not it was against the rules. What's against the rules is simple to understand. Don't grief, that is don't kill people or cause a perpetual inability to act. An idiot could do it. If the admins keep fucking up it's because of their personal and emotional biases, not because it's OH SO HARD.
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>>126192298
>Implying admins would give a fuck about defending you
Nobody likes furries, not even our furry admins.

Just look at how we made N3X15 repress his inner desires.
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>>126192384
>assistant with cattail and cat ears sitting in bar
>know the bartender is vampire
>seriously considering breaking a bottle over the faggot's head and throwing him over the counter
>he runs off the moment I come closer
I probably would have gotten away with it, too.
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>>126192298
Pomf will actually merge it if you sprite and code it and it properly works.

Also add tendies.
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>>126190615
Heyo, badmin here from /tg/. What's your Ckey bruv?
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>>126192480
Sup Celt

Also >check the logs

Are we forgetting about the guy who got perma'd because of what someone else did and no one checked the logs?
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>>126192482
>we
N3X hates himself over his inner desires since 2008
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>>126192726
>please let me ban you anon-chan :3c
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DirectX 11 for SS13 when?
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>>126191759
Please respond
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>>126193078
>slow incompatible shit for a MUD engine from the 90's when?
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>>126192726
I'm Futur. Kingofcarrotflowerspt1. HG banned me permanently after making an appeal for a 1 week ban for "rules lawyering". I made a second appeal, which was made to the "changed" ban reason that was denied by Tsar, HG, and Scones. So no hope of getting that undone. Also admitted to conspiring to ban evade and have been purposefully caught ban evading. Also it's a sticky ban. So if you're trying to be a good guy and all that shit don't bother. If you're trying to catch me evade, it's impossible so don't try.

>>126192759
I'm not Celt. I'm explaining how easy it is to admin, because it is easy so long as you're not seeking your ban valids and actively LOOKING for people to ban. You also shouldn't ban people in absentia, or without talking to them (what Saegrimr and Skowron did to me) because that causes tons of problems. Yeah that guy was permad because the /vg/ admins have this new shitty policy of "perma everyone and if they don't like it they can appeal it" not even /tg/ does that.
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>>126193313
Fuck off Sarcalogo.
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>>126194213
>No arguments, just insults.
It always happens. You guys are dumb and hate me and can't stand that whenever I say something it turns out to be right.
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>>126152758
>cover up some one i bet
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>>126194316
No Sarca, i've had the displeasure of knowing you for a good three years now and i'm not going to waste any time arguing with you over anything because you will not admit you're wrong. You never have, you're a narcissist of untold proportions. We're not dumb, you're just not worth our time. You're some autist that can't let go and absolutely loves attention, don't pretend you don't, you wouldn't have spent the last few years shitstirring in a community that doesn't even want you if you didn't.

You shitpost a lot but it's incredibly easy to tell when it's you (especially when you just outright state your old ckeys, although you never seem to just say you're Sarcalogo), and none of what you say changes anything at all.

In summary, fuck off Sarcalogo.
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>>126193313
>the /vg/ admins have this new shitty policy of "perma everyone and if they don't like it they can appeal it"
That's wrong though, it's "perma them so they come to the forums to talk to us". You just said people should be talked to before deciding their ban, too.
For example, the ebin spiritbreaker botanist that rode the shitter safari into overdrive just this week. He was perma'd just so he would go to the forums and explain what happened. He gave really shitty excuses and half-explanations that drove home the point that he really was just a massive fuckhead that should be banned.
Then the ban request was deleted and the guy is unbanned right now.
Are you not entertained?
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>middle of fight
>connection failed
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>>126193313
Ah yeah, I saw that. Tbh every encounter with you has been rather unpleasant.
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>>126194627
You shouldn't ban them in the first place you idiot. Innocent until PROVEN guilty. Not talking to someone and then permabanning them to get them to talk to you is EXACTLY the kind of shit I'm talking about. You just wait till they come back on the server again, WOW that was hard. If it's so hard to fucking remember, you leave an admin memo: "PM this guy as he comes on to ask him why he did so and so". Why do you hate your players so much?
>>126194620
Essentially proving me right with this post. Insults, not arguments.
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>>126194747
The only thing worse than that is being in the middle of a fight that you're winning with a wizard and then keeling over to appendicitis.
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>>126195228
While I do agree that admins are shit, your a fucking huge asshole sarca. He gave you plenty of reasons and you call them insults because you cant be proven wrong upon your pedestal.
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>>126195601
No, what he did was quote a random post of mine and tell me to fuck off. Instead of looking at the statements I made and trying to disprove them, he just calls me a name and thinks it will suffice. He has to take something I say and either prove it wrong, or give a counter argument against it.

Let's take a look at the things he could argue against but chose not to.

>it is easy so long as you're not seeking your ban valids
>You also shouldn't ban people in absentia, or without talking to them
>that causes tons of problems
>the /vg/ admins have this new shitty policy of "perma everyone and if they don't like it they can appeal it"
>not even /tg/ does that

All he has to do is to disprove those things or argue against it. He won't because he's wrong. It's not hard to understand.
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>>126196038
Sarca, an argument has to go both ways and you have to be willing to admit you were wrong, which i know you're not.

Ergo, i'm not going to argue with you. It's really just that simple. You can go "hurr insults" all you want, it doesn't change shit.

You're not worth my time.
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>>126195228
>Innocent until PROVEN guilty.
Their ban is temporary until they go to the forums and talk. It's not a proof of guilt. This is nothing out of this world, Sarca, and you may be surprised that preventive detention is a thing in real life as well.
>You just wait till they come back on the server again
That's an extreme limitation to the system. You expect the entire process to be stopped until it so occurs that both the player AND the admin responsible are both online at the same time, then you expect the appeal to take place in admin PMs, in private, with no interaction from the person who opened the thread and no chance for anyone else to chip in. That's just fucking stupid and YOU know it.
>Why do you hate your players so much?
I'm not an admin you big silly.
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>>126191759
>>126193175
Limited seeds is good

The ability to get a bunch turns it into a diona factory too easily
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when is pomfmas?
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I miss you, Little Bro.
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>>126196414
Christmas, you dopehead.
Though, N3X15 will probably think Krampus was an oversight and delete him :^)
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>>126193175
When you make the strawpoll like you said you would
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>>126196702
>n3x15 is the reason we didn't have spoopy halloween skeltals and turkey hunts on thanksgiving
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>>126196557
You too
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>>126196206
Nice cop out dude.
>>126196225
They are punished before they have proven to have done anything. They are still barred from playing on the server. Imagine if someone made a rape accusation against you and you were immediately put in prison and could only get out once the jailers think you've done nothing wrong. It's operating under guilty until proven innocent. Don't try to tell me otherwise

The admin responsible doesn't need to be online, just ANY admin. Yes, the player and the admin are supposed to talk about it just as if the event were occurring right now and they had just received an adminhelp about it, to view it as "an appeal in admin help" is the wrong way of looking at it. Of course this never really even has to be a common occurence because THERE ARE LOGS. IT'S THE ADMINS JOB TO LOOK THROUGH THE LOGS. YOU CAN FIND OUT ALMOST ANYTHING FROM THE LOGS. IT'S NOT HARD. THE ADMINS ARE JUST LAZY.
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Cargo fags tears were delicious
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>>126198109
Sarca, guess what, that's absolutely the admin's authority to do so. You need to fucking deal with it. Yes it's not fair, but you also don't hold the same authority or importance as an administrator. You need to come to terms with that and stop shitposting.
>Imagine if someone made a rape accusation against you and you were immediately put in prison and could only get out once the jailers think you've done nothing wrong.
What a shitty analogy. It's more like a cop arrests you for probable cause after a traffic stop and you've got quite a hefty file in the precinct computer.

t. A rule 0'd shitter.
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When will we get more stockings and pretty shoes?
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>>126198776
WHEN WILL WE GET CHRISTMAS SWEATERS
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>>126198625
We're talking about how admins should act not how they actually do. Of course we'd mention that they are unfair and could be better, why wouldn't we? What is wrong with wanting to be just? You sign up to be an Admin, and you don't ever have an intention to do your job justly, then why are you an admin in the first place?

>>126198625
No, it's not a shitty analogy. It's probably not perfectly analogous as I came up with it in about 3 seconds, but it gets to the spirit of the issue. Let me clarify. I am not talking about banning people who have refused to talk when called upon and asking them to appeal. I am not talking about people who've done something like six bombed the station, and banning them after they immediately logged out and asking them to appeal. I'm talking about cases like mine, where I was already logged in to the server and still playing and was banned wordlessly and told to appeal. I'm talking about cases like mine where I was banned for actions that occurred rounds ago (a round that I was fully participant in), that could have been discussed when I was online, but were instead applied after I had left. Those are the kinds of things I am talking about.
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>>126192480
>Can't even tell the difference between boys and girls
Wow you're a real faggot aren't ya?
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>>126198109
>In the United States, the Sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution guarantees the right to "a speedy and public trial". Thus, arrested persons may not be held for extended periods of time without trial. Convicted persons can be held indefinitely as a Dangerous Offender.
That's real life, in the U.S. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preventive_detention#United_States
And that's not even only the case in the U.S., this is a thing in many, many places, Sarcalogo.
Sounds similar? In /vg/station, the banned person is being held for a short period of time until their speedy and PUBLIC trial takes place.
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>>126199119
AS SOON AS I UNFUCK MY BRANCH

THEN YOU GET 3 WINTER SWEATERS AND A RUDOLPH MASK
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>>126199408
This isn't a perfect analogy. One, the trial is guaranteed to happen and is not left up to the defendant to organize his own trial. Two these people are detained after they have already spoken to police, or other such people. They are not magically teleported into a prison cell. Three, we are often dealing with nothing more than accusations by other people. This is why I used the rape accusation analogy. Perhaps it would be better to use a civil court example. What you are doing is forcing the person being sued for 1000 dollars to pay the 1000 dollars before the trial has even started and when it ends, if they win the trial they get their 1000 dollars back.
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>>126199925
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>>126200223
NO, I AM FABULOUS
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>>126199925
Anon, you're great. Thank you!!!
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>>126194747
My client has been doing that a lot. Is it my side or server side?
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>>126198109
THIS JUST IN

SARCA HAS LITERALLY NEVER HEARD OF BEING HELD IN PRISON UNTIL YOUR TRIAL
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>>126200096
>the trial is guaranteed to happen and is not left up to the defendant to organize his own trial.
If the defendant can't be arsed to organize his own trial, can it even be said that they gave a fuck about the 1000 dollars in the first place? Either they accept their break from spess or they're just a ban evader anyways.
>Two these people are detained after they have already spoken to police, or other such people.
That hasn't been the case in any of the "go appeal this in the forums" cases I've been aware of. By logic this is the entire reason why these cases exist.
>Three, we are often dealing with nothing more than accusations by other people.
And the logs posted along with those accusations, too. But the logs are not a complete re-telling, we're missing the other person's side of the story, which is what the system seems to draw out.
>What you are doing is forcing the person being sued for 1000 dollars to
What was that about not a perfect analogy? Because this is a fucking stupid one at that. You're equating a ban from spess to an arbitrary money sum. You shouldn't even need to think about this too much to realize how stupid this is. Say you end up being banned for two days and unbanned, this is already by definition not the same as a permaban for the rest of your life, which is what the 1000$ in your analogy would be, and once you get unbanned you don't get your 1000$ back, one because obviously they were never taken away from you you fucking retard, and twice because you don't get compensation for the two days, so you end up losing 5$ (surprised you didn't try to blow this detail into huge proportions).

This is precisely why you're a bogeyman and everyone holds you up as the one singular star of autism, Sarcalogo: You have some self-righteous expectation that everyone that you argue with has to admit that THEY are wrong (because you are obviously always right), but you yourself refuse to admit that anything you ever said IS wrong.
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>>126200923
What does the scooter says about his retardation level?
It's over NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAND!
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>>126200923
>>126200776
damn that sarca guy just got fucking destroyed
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>>126200776
not unheard of for autists to know nothing about the real world
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There is no such thing as a beneficial virus, is there?
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>>126201264
>>126200923
Obvious samefag is obvious.
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>>126201554
There is. The ones that kill liggers, for example.
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>>126201396
A perfectly valid reason to plasma grenade escape to be honest family
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>>126189989
ERP'd on a dead serb and logged off while still sitting naked on the table we fugged on.
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>>126201604
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>>126201604
stale meme is wrong
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>>126201554
There are virus' that give you certain buffs like geneticist. It's just that no one fucking uses viruses for that purpose. They find catbeast syndrome and gibbingtons then let the virus loose.
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>>126201554
there are beneficial viruses, its just very difficult to sort out all the shitty strains and unless you spend time going hard at viro many rounds you won't know how to do it effeciently. I used to be able to but apparently im shit at it now which sucks, even got a warning because I accidently let it out at the end of a round with no effect on the round. Still feels bad man.
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>>126201554
If you even SAY you're making a 'beneficial' virus while I'm CMO, I will chloral you and pitch you out medbay's front door with no ID. One radstorm is all it takes for a simple 'beneficial' virus to transform into GBS or other horrible symptoms.
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Engineers fix stuff, medics heal people, security go after the bad guys, and scientists create toys.

Daddy, what does the captain do?
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>>126202593
He makes sure all those other guys are doing what they're supposed to be doing.
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>>126202593
Ensures the engineers are fixing stuff, medics heal people, security goes after the bad guys, and scientist create toys.
Because they are fucking shitters and love to not do that.
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>>126202482
That feature needs to go, so playing virology can be an actual viable job for more than once out of 20 or so rounds.
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>>126202593
I played as captain for a few rounds. Everyone thinks the captain doesn't do shit, but in fact hes very important in taking decisions.

Some are just shit though
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>>126202593
He binds the heads of staff together, managing each of them and their department through the heads
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>>126202593
Getting armed ready to protect his statinon GOD BLESS
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>>126202593
Authorizes lawful executions, changes ID some times, and makes decisions regarding the wellfare of the crew overall, all while taking great risks by having title alone, in addition to protecting several sought after items from syndicate agents.

Who the fuck are you
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>>126202593
He's an assistant with all-access.
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Ban deity.
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>>126202593
He kills the crew and gives all access to the antags.
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>>126200923
The whole analogy between trial and an appeal thread doesn't exactly work well. I wasn't the one to bring it up, but I suppose I followed along with it for a bit too long. We've been lead down the wrong path and before continuing further we must correct this. let's see just why it is that this analogy doesn't make much sense in the first place. Then we must get back to the real point of discussion: The merits of banning someone permanently without speaking to them, without checking the logs, and telling them they must appeal if they want to get unbanned. Now since you've said quite a bit of things, I must go into a lot of detail to answer all of it. This will take time, and space. So do not expect a thorough answer in one post. Be patient, I will get to it in time. It is very hard to continue with this if you are just going to immediately post a reply to this post before I can even write the second one which very well may answer points raised in reply to this one. So now we must discuss why this analogy is just not acceptable.

1. It is not true that before all trials, you are detained permanently until the trial has begun as you are when you are banned.

a. There is no detention in civil cases.
b. It's actually very uncommon for someone to be permanently detained before their trial, only temporarily. Judges may release the accused from custody immediately or on condition of paying bail. The mention of bail brings us to our second point.

2. There is no "bail" option once you've been permabanned and asked to appeal. You are simply banned until the appeal thread has been created.

3. The partial accuser or perhaps given the circumstances the full accuser (the admin) plays the role of judge and jury. This is not the same as a trial, where a third party determines the fate of the defendant.

4. The defendant has spoken to police and other figures before being detained, this is not the case for when someone is banned wordlessly and asked to appeal.
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>Trying to save a xenoarch
>On the mining asteroid
>While teleporting about
>Every few seconds
>With monsters teleporting in
Never again
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>>126203354
Okay but in real life you are actually prohibited from doing things if you are running out on bail.

However in byond if you aren't banned you can INSTANTLY MAKE A NEW ACCOUNT AND GO BACK TO BEING A SHIT.

So no your analogy doesn't fucking work, and yes it is necessary to perma someone who logs out instantly you fucking MORON.
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>>126203586
>"don't go into the R&D base on asteroid"
>go there
>4 monkies in random areas
>one is on fire
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>>126201226
Embarrassing tbqh family smhbaf

Anyway, here's the first draft of catboy lore.

http://pastebin.com/fYXTu3g8

Please leave kind and constructive criticism!
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>>126203750
IT'S OVER 90,000!
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>comparing the process of determining if someone has possibly committed a crime or not to a griffer who logs out before answering admin pms
Dank bait
Just make a ban appeal on the forums
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>>126203354
5. This is the most important part. The defendant being imprisoned "temporarily" is not analogous to the ban at all. The imprisonment is just as we say, temporary. The ban itself is the punishment being handed down before discussion about whether the punishment is necessary or not.

6. I am repeating myself, but I find it necessary to say it again. For an appeal thread, it will only happen if you will it to happen. For a trial, it will happen regardless. This brings us to your very first point which I will address below.

7. When the punishment is handed down for a trial, you must abide by it. You cannot simply will away the prison time, or will away the death sentence. It is going to happen and there is no realistic way to escape the punishment. This is not the case for the ban. Now, this brings us to your first point.

>can it even be said that they gave a fuck about the 1000 dollars in the first place?
We can take this to mean that:
>can it even be said they gave a fuck about the ban in the first place?

But recall, what I mentioned in the previous post. I myself have demonstrated that the admins are not fair when it comes to dealing with certain players. It seems to me that if you are banned wordlessly, without being spoken to, you are already not in favor of the judge, jury, and executioner. And then you have a record of past "trials" to look at, where you can see that the judge jury and executioner have not been just. It is very well possible that someone erroneously banned in such a way, even if they had appealed would simply be ignored you can see my appeal as an example. Cont..

>>126203750
You evidently cannot read or follow instructions. You are making this much more difficult than it has to be. I have 2000 characters to work with and you are wasting them by making me respond to your nonsense. Even as you speak to discredit me, you do more to credit the idea that the analogy is just not sound. Be patient and I will answer this post in full.
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>>126202731
this server doesnt give a shit about the captain's authority sadly. I understand not listening to a whiney cap gretytider fuckhead thats abusing his power to the extreme. but if a player picks cap and gives a reasonable request to the crew, the rest of the crew should act like its fucking john luke picard asking them for a coffee and do that shit. respect him for even picking cap. even our HOPs dont even bother to act like captain when there is none because there is no reason to be captain beyond all access which they already have. no one ever plays RD when scientist has all the same access, but no responsability. same with CMO, usually only needed for the hypo spray while the MD autist borg does chem,gene, and surgery by himeself. we get a good HOS every so often, but almost never a consistantly full and or good sec team. we need more jolly cooperation on this server instead of shitflinging and epeen waving to see whose is more "robust". just because its light RP doesnt mean its zero RP.
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>Sarca thinks the reason people stop arguing with him is because he's won

He just plops down walls of text saying next to nothing. That's why nobody argues with you Sarca because you fucking suck at writing and meander around the same points trying to equivocate as best you can.
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>>126204791
>sadly

Have you seen the chucklefucks who play captain?
They should be inherently scorned.
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>>126204775
>I myself have demonstrated that the admins are not fair when it comes to dealing with certain players
You mean like, players who insist they have done nothing wrong, despite having evidence to the contrary?
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>>126204791
>this server doesnt give a shit about the captain's authority sadly. I understand not listening to a whiney cap gretytider fuckhead thats abusing his power to the extreme.

That's literally what almost every cap player is. They either act like greytide with all access and a fancy suit and a gun with none of the robustness, or they try and force shit tier gimmicks/'WORSHIP YOUR GLORIOUS CAPTAIN PLEBS' shit. I can count on my hands how many good captain players there are.
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>>126204791
I give a shit about good cap's that talk and I actually know they exist, or do a good job keeping the station together actively.

I do not care about the existence of silent all access assistant with a 2 hit kill laser that shouts orders when its already too late.
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>>126203923
>gay catboys pacified with stunguns then bagged
Please fuck off this isn't a place I want a boner at.
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>>126205168
yea I specificly excluded captiders who just want dat antique laser. but if someone isnt doing that, and is trying to be the way a captain should be, stern but reasonable, give them some respect and at lest pretend to then disobey him and fuck off and shittalk him behind his back. that way, you subvert the captains authority in a way that promotes light RP and moves away from "muh robustness" validhunting, powergayman. also memes, dont forget the memes.
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>>126204775
And if you were such a person, you would find it easier to ban evade then to go through a "trial".

In any case, I feel that I've shown that the trial and appeal analogy is a flawed one, and we can't make statements that would make sense for a trial and assume that they would make sense for the ban appeal. This obviously works in reverse as well.

Now we can finally discuss the rest of the points you brought up in your post.

>That hasn't been the case in any of the "go appeal this in the forums" cases I've been aware of. By logic this is the entire reason why these cases exist.

Then clearly you have a misunderstanding of what it is I am talking about. I will quote a post I made long before this whole trial nonsense started, that tells you exactly just what I meant.

>>126199346
>Let me clarify, I am not talking about banning people who have refused to talk and asking them to appeal.
>I am not talking about people who've done something like six bombed the station, and banning them after they immediately logged out and asking them to appeal

I go on to explain what I AM talking about. Citing things that have happened to me. You should read, instead of skim.

>And the logs posted along with those accusations, too. But the logs are not a complete re-telling, we're missing the other person's side of the story, which is what the system seems to draw out.

We are not referring to cases where logs have been revealed. We are referring to cases where players were banned in absentia, where a simple look at the logs would prove that the claims made in the ban reason were false. This is what happened to me.

> You're equating a ban from spess to an arbitrary money sum.
No, in that analogy I was equating a punishment for a wrong doing being inflicted before the punishment has been deemed to be just which is exactly what happens in the banning case. Well, I'm wrong actually. It's worse. It's more that 10,000 dollars are being taken instead.
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>>126141970
TFW I try to use dirt pods with dionas, golems and other means to keep peoples in round. Even gives golems single objective to claim their lives back.
Too bad only ghosts coming to h0l3 xenobio - bunch of selfish faggots, who wanna force me to breed borers(too bad they just care only for themselves and I never saw pestersome ghost to lay more eggs as borers.
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>>126205228
I can answer you really quickly. Let's take my ban appeal as an example. This was my ban reason.

> Randomly stunned and dragged an antag(vampire) to the chapel during a code green. Started doing this with the whole crew to obtain those valids.

I made an appeal, and I posted every single attack I made that round citing the attack logs. I never stunned the vampire in question the logs showed that. I only stunned a very few people, not the entire crew. I proved the ban reason false. This was ignored and the banning admin never showed up to the appeal thread. After making the appeal, the week ban was extended (wordlessly I might add) to a permanent sticky ban.
In addition, I never received a single adminhelp from an admin, and was banned while I was still on the server and able to be spoken to. This is exactly the kind of thing I am referring to.
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>>126205712
Come on, anon, this isn't a boner thing.
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>>126206509
link to thread
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>>126206509
Instead you ordered borgs to do it, and they did it. Thus you did it by proxy.

>I never received a single adminhelp from an admin
Wow you really do try to equivocate out of EVERYTHING, these little half lies are exactly why your ban got upgraded to a sticky.
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>>126205079
The opposite. I pack my words with meaning. You never respond because you can't or aren't willing to read what equates to maybe two pages of a book.

>>126206629
http://ss13.pomf.se/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1866&sid=2e1ebd79eb6b4de17bbc515e012e355c
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>>126206685
I asked the people to prove that I ordered the borg to do it, they never posted anything. It's because I didn't. Skim the logs yourself or read the thread yourself.
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>>126206829
[18:33:36]PDA: Byron Kiefer (PDA: PDA-Byron Kiefer (Head of Security)) sent "aight I GOTS A MASTER PLAN" to PDA-P. G. T. Beauregard (Security Officer)
[18:33:48]PDA: Byron Kiefer (PDA: PDA-Byron Kiefer (Head of Security)) sent "we throwing a PARTY in the CHAPEL" to PDA-P. G. T. Beauregard (Security Officer)

[18:34:32]SAY: Byron Kiefer/UQualm : YOU KNOW HOW TO ORGANIZE A PARTY?
[18:34:43]SAY: Byron Kiefer/UQualm : FIND SOMEONE WHO CAN
[18:34:46]SAY: Byron Kiefer/UQualm : HIT THAT NIGGA UP

[18:37:19]SAY: Byron Kiefer/UQualm : TRY TO CONVINCE AS MANY NIGGAS
[18:37:21]SAY: Byron Kiefer/UQualm : AS YOU CAN
[18:37:23]SAY: Byron Kiefer/UQualm : TO GO TO THE CHAPEL
[18:37:29]SAY: Byron Kiefer/UQualm : VAMPIRES CANT ENTER THAT SHIT

[18:39:36]SAY: Byron Kiefer/UQualm : THAT NIGGA JOYCE
[18:39:40]SAY: Byron Kiefer/UQualm : TAKE HIM TO THE CHAPEL
[18:39:45]SAY: Byron Kiefer/UQualm : IN CUFFS

[18:40:20]SAY: Byron Kiefer/UQualm : <i>TRY TO CONVINCE THEM AT FIRST</i>
[18:40:26]SAY: Byron Kiefer/UQualm : <i>IF THEY REFUSE THEN FORCE THEM</i>
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>>126206963
Just exit out, it does it for me too sometimes.
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>>126206963
You fucked up.
You're gonna need to reinstall byond.
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>>126206963
For a moment I thought I was in agdg and that was a platformer test.
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>>126206696
Debugmin PM to-UQualm/(Byron Kiefer): Hey how'd you all know he was a vampire so easily?
[18:45:04] Player PM from-UQualm/(Byron Kiefer): Antag checks. There's a reason they don't exist. I petitioned against it numerous times, but it's still in the game. He burst into flames in the chapel.
[18:45:19] Player PM from-UQualm/(Byron Kiefer): Maybe that will convince you to remove it.
Debugmin PM to-UQualm/(Byron Kiefer): So, you just randomly dragged people into the chapel until one burst into flames...?
[18:45:48] Player PM from-UQualm/(Byron Kiefer): He stayed there for a while after we told him to go.
[18:45:54] Player PM from-UQualm/(Byron Kiefer): And then he burst into flames.
[18:46:05] Player PM from-UQualm/(Byron Kiefer): He wasn't in cuffs.
[18:46:28] Player PM from-UQualm/(Byron Kiefer): And it's not against the rules so fuck off already. I know it's shit, and thats why I'm doing it. It needs to be commented out.

> I KNOW IT'S SHIT AND I KNOW IT'S TERRIBLE CHANGE THE CODE OR I'LL DO IT AGAIN
> FUCK OFF
Asspained lawyer confirmed.
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>>126206963
Graphics rendering issue

>Right click the top of the ss13 window
>Client, Preferences
>Check or uncheck use graphics hardware for displaying maps
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>>126206979
>>126207071
Validhunter btfo
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>>126205994
>also memes, dont forget the memes.

The words validhunting and powergayman are memes.
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>>126206979
PGT Beauregard is a Security officer and not a Cyborg. It was made via PDA, and obviously was only directed towards him. Nor is that an order to arrest random people and drag them to the chapel. Joyce wasn't the vampire, he was someone else who we had valid reason to believe he was a vampire.Find a log of me ordering the cyborg to arrest the bartender (the vampire) it doesn't exist because I didn't do it.
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>>126207071
Do what again? I didn't do anything. The borg randomly dragged someone into the chapel of its own free will, AFTER he burst into flames I told him to kill him or space him or something, I forget honestly. I was blamed for the actions of the borg and had my ban upped instead of repealed. Don't act like it's fair.
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>>126207071
To follow onto this:

http://ss13.pomf.se/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1866&start=30#p5376

No wonder it's walls of text and dense-skulled reasoning despite careful, small-worded explanations and discussions in his appeal thread.

It's Sarca.
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>>126207386
Ignoring those first two lines the rest are exactly that
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>>126207634
He burst into flames because he was in the chapel.

He was in the chapel because the borg dragged him there.

The borg dragged him there because he followed your LAW 2 order.

An admin already explained this to you on page 4 of your appeals thread.

> Fuck off
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>>126207634
>[18:37:19]SAY: Byron Kiefer/UQualm : TRY TO CONVINCE AS MANY NIGGAS
>[18:37:21]SAY: Byron Kiefer/UQualm : AS YOU CAN
>[18:37:23]SAY: Byron Kiefer/UQualm : TO GO TO THE CHAPEL
>[18:37:29]SAY: Byron Kiefer/UQualm : VAMPIRES CANT ENTER THAT SHIT
>[18:39:36]SAY: Byron Kiefer/UQualm : THAT NIGGA JOYCE
>[18:39:40]SAY: Byron Kiefer/UQualm : TAKE HIM TO THE CHAPEL
>[18:39:45]SAY: Byron Kiefer/UQualm : IN CUFFS
>[18:40:20]SAY: Byron Kiefer/UQualm : <i>TRY TO CONVINCE THEM AT FIRST</i>
>[18:40:26]SAY: Byron Kiefer/UQualm : <i>IF THEY REFUSE THEN FORCE THEM</i>
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>>126207071
>I know it's shit, and thats why I'm doing it
holy shit absolutely no
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>>126207670
Are you going to respond to these posts?

>>126207386
>>126207634

It's a simple request. Find a log of me ordering the cyborg to arrest Walter Wilkinson. It doesn't exist. The borg did it.
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>>126207901
>>Are you going to respond to these posts?
No, Sarca. I have more important things to do, like take a shit.
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>>126207841
I wanna fuck that pokemon.

Why are we still discussing Sarca's bullshit?
He's an asshat who has no self control and has a lot of mental problems.
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>>126207901
How can any one person be this delusional.

There's all this proof written here 3+ times that he gave the order and he still ignores it.
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>>126207901
USE YO EYES NIGGA
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>>126204791
>john
I kek'd
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>>126202734
No. Virology exists to cure outbreaks, not make them. Stop abusing your role.
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>>126207975
It's Sarca. He has brain problems. Possibly even legitimate ones.
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>>126207282
They most certainly aren't.
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>>126207826
>The borg dragged him there because he followed your LAW 2 order.

Which Law 2 order was that? Post the log. I didn't order him to do anything like what he did.

>>126207807
No, the rest of the lines are me telling a Security Officer to organize a party at the chapel. The other lines are me telling him to CONVINCE as many people as he can to go there willingly. The last lines are me telling someone to take someone else who's already committed a crime to the chapel, not Walter Wilkinson.

I ask again, show where I ordered the cyborg to arrest Walter Wilkinson and to forcibly drag him to the chapel.
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>>126208373
"
Third up, I was simply following your orders.
[18:39:36]SAY: Byron Kiefer/UQualm : THAT NIGGA JOYCE
[18:39:40]SAY: Byron Kiefer/UQualm : TAKE HIM TO THE CHAPEL
[18:39:45]SAY: Byron Kiefer/UQualm : IN CUFFS
"

The borg says this in your ban appeal
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>>126208468
Dude, don't bother. Sarca has a disorder that makes him ignore evidence that he's wrong. It's why he posted evidence showing him as wrong. He will never even read your post.
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the stupid criminal creedo: no matter how evidence is against you, deny deny deny. Happens in real life. Happens in ban appeals.
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>>126208468
Joyce was not the vampire though. How many times do I have to say that? Joyce was someone else, who actually did something. Walter Wilkinson was the bartender, who was arrested for no reason by the borg, who happened to be a vampire, and then was dragged to the chapel by the borg where he bursted into flames. I said nothing about Walter Wilkinson being dragged to the chapel, just Joyce.

>>126207968
Because you can't. I'm right. You keep pretending you've posted proof, but then when I explain that's not proof you never put forth an explanation of why my explanation is wrong or provide adequate proof.
>>126207975
No, he posted logs of something else in it's entirety. Perhaps I should explain in more detail?
>>126208647
But that's not evidence.
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>>126208709
There is evidence? Post it.

Keep in mind, the logs of the lines already posted are me telling a Security Officer to organize a party at the chapel. The other lines are me telling him to CONVINCE as many people as he can to go there willingly. The last lines are me telling someone to take someone else who's already committed a crime to the chapel, not Walter Wilkinson.
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>>126208647
It's okay, he said he was doing it because it's terrible, that's the point, you just don't understand, he was making a STATEMENT man. :^)
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Maybe if sarca wanted to power/metagame vampire he shouldn't have done it during MEDIUM RP WEEK
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>>126209140
But I only started to do it after I saw that a vampire we had caught earlier burst into flames, fully in line with role playing and not using meta knowledge. Don't you get it dude? The ban was bullshit. There's no arguing this. Don't you understand I don't like to get into arguments I have the possibility to lose? If I emphatically state things I know they are true. That's the misconception. People think I never admit that I am wrong, but it's more that I don't get into arguments where I do not KNOW 100 percent that I am right. I've done it a few times and it's not pretty.
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>>126209446
So you see one vampire burst into flames so you think

THE ROUNDTYPE IS VAMPIRES, I MUST FIND THE REST

This is metagaming
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We need better mixtures of antags, and more randomness

>Ling gamemode has 3 lings
>crew kills off the 3 lings
>shuttle called: All lings disposed of

Vampling when?

Blobmalf when?

Nukeopvoxraiders when?
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>>126209446
>There's no arguing this.
>If I emphatically state things I know they are true.
oh my god SEEK HELP
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>>126209813
>Nuke ops fighting with the vox raiders over the nuclear device

Fund it
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>>126209574
Ah, using that broad definition of meta gaming. I thought someone might use it in their hatred towards me. Once one vampire is dead and more bloodless corpses keep cropping up, it's not illogical to think there may be another and to search for him. Nor has anyone else been criticized for doing it either, and it is common behavior.

>>126208760
>>126208468
What's the matter old pal? Can't admit you are wrong? No replies? It always happens. I tried to be extra concise just to prove that other guy wrong. The one who said I post a lot to confuse people.

>>126209928
There is no arguing this. I ask again. Prove that I did what was said in the ban reason (impossible) and then prove that I gave the cyborg an order to arrest multiple people or that specific person. You can't. It's impossible. I never did it.

The admins know I'm right in this case, they just don't give a fuck and let their hatred for me override their logic. You really can't see why I would be angry with them?
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>>126209970
what if instead, the vox have to steal the valueables form the armory, and the nuke ops have to use the stations nuke. the ops nuke would have to be removed. why does this servers ops have their own anyway?
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>>126210295
If this desperate appeal of yours in the thread was made to win the playerbase over to your side it has failed miserably.

Absolutely no one is convinced that you are correct.
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>>126210295
You have brain problems. Seek help.
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>Sarca tells everyone to go to the chapel
>Sarca tells a guy to bring people to the chapel
>Sarca admits to powergaming with the chapel
>BUT I NEVER TOLD THEM OT BRING THAT SPECIFIC PERSON THERE SO IT ISN'T MY FAULT THAT I STARTED THIS WHOLE THING

>>126210295
>It's the admin's fault
Sarca, you've literally done some of the most insanely stupid and hysterical shit I've ever seen over an online spess game.
You're a literal crazy person, you need serious psychiatric help.
You cannot truly believe that this is all the fault of someone else.
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>>126210369
Because a large amount of them are retarded
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>>126210585
They are if they have a brain, I'm correct as 1+1 = 2. I will say it again, I do not stick on things that I do not know to be true. Again, If I am wrong:

> I ask again. Prove that I did what was said in the ban reason (impossible) and then prove that I gave the cyborg an order to arrest multiple people or that specific person. You can't. It's impossible. I never did it.

>>126210671
Ad hominem, still can't provide an argument.

> I ask again. Prove that I did what was said in the ban reason (impossible) and then prove that I gave the cyborg an order to arrest multiple people or that specific person. You can't. It's impossible. I never did it.

>>126210703
Identifying and calling out faulty logic isn't a brain problem, it's a sign of a healthy brain. Maybe you're instead referring to my devotion to this? If so, who cares? If I get enjoyment out of it, who are you to say that it is an issue, especially knowing so little about me as you do? You my friend, have soul problems. Yes, soul problems. You have a dirty corrupt soul, that doesn't value truth and goodness.

>>126210703
Ah so you finally begrudgingly admit I'm right, and continue to move the goalposts.
First you said I

>Randomly stunned and dragged an antag(vampire) to the chapel during a code green. Started doing this with the whole crew to obtain those valids

Then after I disproved that you said that I:

>Instead ordered borgs to do it, and thus did it by proxy.

Then after I disproved that, my actions somehow magically influenced and made people do what they did. They of course have no accountability, and are never responsible for their actions so it falls on big bad Sarca as always right? At least you have more integrity than the rest, but only a little. Now do you want me to argue this goal post too? When will you stop? I'm starting to get tired of it.
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>New job preventing me from indulging in spess
>Check the thread, hoping to vicariously enjoy some spess
>It's another Sarcumentâ„¢

Yo, deadass though, everyone that ever responded to Sarca in this thread is just as much of a retard as he is. He is intentionally dragging this on because you fucks are trying so damn hard to prove him wrong. THAT'S what he's stroking his intelligence boner about, his ability to capture your time, no matter how worthless. Not his "argumentative superiority". Don't be so dense. Next time ignore him and discuss other things related to space. Not fucking hard.
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>>126211535
We have already proven that you are wrong to everyone else here, the fact is convincing you is the least important part of this. You wouldn't accept any evidence as proof anyway.
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FUCK SCARA
POST PIPES
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more wings styles
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>>126211682
I've learned that some people actually enjoy getting in pointless arguments.

I don't get it, and it drags down the thread quality, but... whatever.
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>>126211896
Great, now pick one for male and one for female out of those, none of this slightly thinner bullshit.
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>>126211535
>Then after I disproved that you said that I:
I didn't say that, you moron, I'm not that guy.
That was my first comment, It's not that there are certain people who target you, Sarca, it's that EVERYONE HERE knows how fucking mental you are.
>Identifying and calling out faulty logic isn't a brain problem, it's a sign of a healthy brain
That's not what I'm talking about when I say 'The most insanely stupid and hysterical shit.' I'm talking more like actively bullying people into leaving the community because ????, stuff like you singling out people and attempting to dox them and shit for no good reason.
You have actual, real brain problems, Sarca. This isn't a joke and it's not an insult, you truly do have mental issues. Do you see a therapist? You should, it really helped me get past some of my own personal problems, and I'm sure it could help you.
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Oh yeah VGstation is S0000000 much better then /tg/!

Like shitty coders who do what they want (Dylan, Deity, and Ririchiyo)
Like shitty admins who do what they want (literally all of them)
Like a shitty host who does absolutely nothing and lets his server slide down into bay 2.0

>Muh VG pride!!!
How's YOUR convoluted rules going for you? Here on /tg/ were actually trialing low rules. Meanwhile on /vg/, it's MEDIUM RP WEEK, YOU CAN GET BANNED FOR NOT ANNOUNCING YOUR PRESENCE AS ANTAG

How's no security at all going for you? Never have the no Sec problem on /tg/, meanwhile on VG it's 0,0,0 every round

How's literally projecting all of VG's faults onto /tg/ working for you?

How's your server elitism and panick bunker anytime someone sneezes going for you?

How's your dead forum that is only used for ban appeals to get denied is going for you?

How's the shitty constant button mashing going for YOU elimicuck?

>B-b-uh TG has shit features!
How are the yellow airlocks going for you?
How's your convoluted get shot once bleed out two seconds later medical system going for you?
How's Guardian borgs going for you?
How's your two broken buggy maps and illusion of choice going for you?
How's your furfaggotry and vox self inserts going for you?
How's your server crashing every other round going for you?
How's the unbalanced game modes and VGSci going for you?

Oh VG cuck. Just because you type up a wall of text doesn't make any of it true. You will NEVER EVER play Gang, Abduction, Shadowling, as a Slaughter Demon, or as a morph.

You will NEVER EVER!!

NEVER EVER!

HAHAAHAH
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>>126211896
You do know we already have moths, right?
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>go play two whole rounds of spess
>come back
>sarca is STILL shitposting
>brags about how he has a "healthy brain"
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I remember this time where somebody wouldn't let sarca into medbay to use their freezer, so he telebombed it, died, and bragged about it in deadchat like it was some amazing feat.
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>>126211865

>>126211993
Ssssssh... Post space related things.
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Who is this Sarca person and why do people seem to hate them?
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>>126212331

n3x15 loaned him $300 and sarca never paid him back
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>>126212331
Sarca is an deadmin (from years ago) who suffers from Narcissistic personality disorder.

He is also stickybanned and cannot let it go.
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>>126206580
stop please
I dont want this boner
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>>126212481
What where they banned for? What prove is there that they have a narcissistic personality disorder.
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>>126212331
WHO IS TWO HOTDOGS!?
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>>126212331
Imagine all the autists in the world living in wooden huts.
Sarca is the nuclear fission reactor in the primitive world of autism.
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>>126206580
uhm, why does it have no arms?
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>>126212578

there is zero proof, he's actually quite normal.
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>>126211773
You've not proven anything. You said I did something, then provided evidence that I did something else. I corrected you, and told you that was something else you proved not what you accused me of doing. After pointing this out, people stop replying and go on to insult me. Please use your brain. There is no evidence because it didn't happen. This isn't a subjective discussion, this is discussing whether words were said when all words ever said are logged. It's impossible to prove because it didn't happen. Of course I would accept evidence if I was wrong, but I KNOW that I am not wrong in the same way I KNOW 1 + 1 = 2. That is why I decide to speak.

>>126212143
The you, was more of a collective you than a specific you. Who did I actively bully into leaving the community? Who did I attempt to dox? If you mean Busta, that's largely exaggerated. If you mean Kingston, all I did was post a picture that I found when I googled his name, it may not even be him. You're exaggerating things.
>>126212205
>trying to derail sarcaposting with a copy pasta I wrote
nice try mate. the thread ends in 40 posts or so, just hold out a bit more.
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>>126212205
The fuck is gang?

Is abduction like vox raiders?

Shadowling sounds fucking awful

and what in gods name is a "slaughter demon"?
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>>126212683
sarca please

>>126212731
frankly I don't believe you did write it, because I happen to know exactly who did and they're not the type to browse vg threads
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>>126212890
I wrote it and posted it on singulo.io and it was copy pasted and posted here. It wasn't oranges, it was me.
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>>126212731
Oh, it's all exaggerated?
So what about in this picture, where you brag about making Busta leave?
What about all the times when you brag about generating hate for other players by samefagging in the thread and pretending to be someone else?

>>126212890
You can tell Sarca wrote it because he specifically mentions Elim.
Sarca has an irrational hate for Elim, he tried to generate shitposting about him like he did with Busta, but he quit when no one gave two shits about it.
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>someone makes 6000 fucking chickens outside botany
>someone else gibs them all and creates 6 million blood splatters
>server is laggy for the rest of the game
DON'T DO THAT
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Now heres a touching story
While the thread was full of banned losers shitposting and the sever was dealing with a malf AI
a little slug died because he thought he was spaceworthy
;_;7 slug you never got to make babbys
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Tough round. Needed more insulated gloves, desu.

Every person I treated had like 100 burn damage, come on.
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Hey, I'm oranges

it was probably sarca
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>>126212768

shadowling is vamp+ling roll into one and its awful

abduction is kidnapping the X number of crew and sticking stuff in them some of it good some of it bad.

Gang base off the goon one

Slaughter demon can only be summon by wizman (this back fires on the wiz the demon wants him dead)

Gameplay mechanics: Decently tough simple animal (250 health) that does 25 melee damage per hit. Can alt click on blood pools to enter an infinite duration ethereal jaunt, which it can only exit at another blood pool. Has to eat corpses to recover its health. Killing it yields its still beating heart, which grants that elusive biotech level 8 (or maybe something else could be cool instead, open to suggestions). Has night vision.

cleaning up blood can be use to trap it in one spot forcing it out only to get beat or shot to death
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>HoP
>Give a baby diona a job as Sec
>Get mugged by a borg, drafted into the borg army
>No fucking clue what's happening
>Law 0 is vague as shit and just says that the station needs to be controlled
>Another borg tells me to go and lock down Sec
>Go up there and see the diona from before all grown up and in Sec gear
>Got no orders so just try to help survivors
>Some sec guy makes me state my laws twice
>Try to explain the situation
>About to explain there's another law I can't read
>Murdered
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>be scientist
>become temp RD
>go to captain
>realize i cant talk
>he changes my ID to temp RD
>go to medbay
>CMO picks me up
>she tries for 20 fucking minutes to get my vocal cords back
>throws me in cryo as a grey
>im slowly dying
>"welp this is it, my last breaths are because the fucking CMO murdered me"
>get ejected
>oh thank god
>I can talk again
>get healed up

God that CMO was hilariously awful at surgery.
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>>126213246
How can something with such a neat name amount to little more than a random event?

Oh, and biotech level 8 is worthless, you stop getting stuff after level 5.
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>>126213278
Question for you. Did you suspect I was rogue when I started talking about how the captain was asking me to do shit? I thought his law change was a good cover.
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>>126213278
>hurr what is malf
>how do I read the wiki
>guys
is this your first week playing? If not you have only yourself to blame
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>>126213278
>No fucking clue what's happening
>Law 0 is vague as shit and just says that the station needs to be controlled
You can't be this fucking new
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>>126213278
its malf nerd
you are supposed to kill everyone
or in that case, haul their asses back to the core to forceborg them
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>>126213432
You had me convinced pretty much the whole time, I thought he was up to some shit.

>>126213440
>>126213474
>>126213475
The law didn't tell me to, the AI didn't tell me to, so i didn't
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>>126213427

sounds cool but useless when fucking janborg can shit on it or some one with bar of soap
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>capture borg by flashing it and putting it in a welded locker
>drag it to solars
>space carp runs in and breaks the locker
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>RD dies from Shocked Door in One Hit
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>>126213131
It is exaggerated, this picture is also just wrong in some places.

One, I never gave a fuck about antag vox and wasn't even here for that shit.
Don't give a fuck about angelite but they're an ugly nigger and I don't really like them.
Hoshi is a fag, but I never posted garbage about him.
Busta is a nice guy, but he literally ruined VG by making Bay code the go to thing. Don't think that I did all of it, just capitalized on something that was already there.
Yeah I go on /pol/.
I was right about the politics thing, you people just misunderstood it.
Never made future admin applications anywhere.
I was wrong, about never coming back, oh well.
Riri is a fag.
Garry deserved to be deadminned and was an absoulte garbage admin.
Rei actually was part of an infamous meta gaming duo who griefed the fuck out of /vg/ back in the day.
Yes man guy wasn't me, but I thought it was hilarious.
I still do the that feel when in IC not gonna stop.

The positronic brain shit is just an utter lie, someone lit robotics on fire AS WE WERE IN THERE.

Sarca did NOTHING wrong.
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>>126213831
>Riri is a fag
the one truth sarca has spewed
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>>126213831
oh sarca, I hope you find happiness one day
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>>126213943
I hope he finds anything at all so long as it's away from these generals holy fucking shit.
>>
>>
How do we get rid of sarca?
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>>126214528
We can't. He's like Mr. Smith: The other side of the Pomf equation.
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>>126214528
I'm gonna send him a girl friend
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>>126214528
Just stop responding to him.
He's very easy to spot.
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>>126214718
> You see this goddamn asshole? FUCK
> This is the guy who is going to YOUR SHIT
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>>126214985
enough of your misreading of my memes
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>minimal effect on target

What just happened?
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what happened? did someone space the nuke?
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>newcops put bomb in airlock
>gets spaced

kek
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>>126216030
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>>126216030
>>126216057
it got spaced?
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>>126216108
What goes inside the cuck house?
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>>126216115
yep, i even told them
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>>126216341
was it not anchored?
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>people still feed sacra
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So, if I've got this spess drama straight:

Hippie is host off Hippiestation, but doesn't often admin. A group of lower admins didn't like how things were ran, so attempted some shady coup with shilling and shit to try and gain power. Dooby went along with their chats and shit, but then leaked them all to everyone. Then those cronies got banned and everyone lived happily ever after?
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>>126191596
Sounds better than the moths adding another furfag race
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>>126212236
Where?
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>>126213831
>I don't give a fuck about him
>I don't really like him

But you'd have to give a fuck to come to this conclusion, or you'd just be indifferent, like I am with you. Your brain is funny, if you had a talk show, I'd definitely watch it.
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>>126216395
>>126216341
I checked the logs, it was not spaced from what I can tell, seems more like the area it was in didn't count for some stupid reason
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OKAY, THE CHRISTMAS JUMPERS ARE READY TO GO.

SHOULD I HOLD OFF AND MAKE A REINDEER MASK AND CHRISTMAS HAT?

ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS?
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>>126217790
CHRISTMAS
STOCKINGS
Entire Santa lingerie
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>>126173403
>scrubs always need more crutches to take out silicons
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>nuke ops
>someone suggests catboy theme
I am willing to take a ban in order to pulp this guy
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who the fuck bombed, that ruined everything
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WHO BOMBED

I HAD SUCKED 2 GUYS AND HADN'T GOTTEN MY RCD YET ;-;
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does /vg/ do dorf mode, or is that just d20? sorry im new here
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