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Jenner IIC turned out alright edition

New /gerg/ game, from the makers of Shadowrun Returns
http://battletechgame.com/

Mechwarrior Living Legends:
http://www.mechlivinglegends.net/

Living Legends Installer + Gamespy fix:
http://forum.mechlivinglegends.net/index.php?topic=19022.0
http://forum.mechlivinglegends.net/index.php/topic,20422.0.html

Living Legends Server Stats (Use this to check if anyone is playing):
http://stats.spikx.net/mwll.html

The HAWKEN zombie marches on:
https://www.playhawken.com/

Heavy Gear Assault:
http://www.heavygear.com/

M.A.V. (Now with more Chromehound legal rights!)
http://www.bombdogstudios.com/index.php/blog/

MechWarrior Online:
http://www.mwomercs.com/

New Player's Guide to MWO:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bmIEjECA6IbWRm92vmylZNv2QYVc5gXO7CT9jMITOrM/edit

December Road Map:
http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/215601-december-road-map/

MWO CW Map Viewer:
http://www.norrisdev.com/mwocw/

Kong PodKast #25: Heavy Gear Stuff
http://kongkast.libsyn.com/kong-kast-25-gear-bays-black-market-and-pets-oh-my

MWO Mechlab:
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab

MWO Heat Simulator:
http://keikun17.github.io/mwo_heat_simulator/

Kanajashi's Video Tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGPYOrhEFtg

Mumble Info:
Kong Mumble: kong-interstellar.typefrag.com
Port: 8270
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wut
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literally not dank

minimally viable animu shit

haruko's were funny yours are boring greg
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>>125846212
0/10
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Shit OC/10

Anyone down for some robots?
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>>125846212
shit job haruko

see me after class
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>>125846212
God dammit Haruko you had one fucking job

This is greg tier shit GET THE FUCK OUT
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>>125846212
#fuckoffgreg
this is not a meme
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>>125846556
>>125846658
>haruko

nice falseflagging greg apologists
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>>125846391
>>125846493
>>125846507
>>125846556
>>125846658
>>125846756
wew lads

I'd like to see your fresh dank OC :^^^^)
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Gey guys remember that one time I made a meme and you didn't like it?
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>>125846882
>says its greg tier shit
>greg apologist
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>>125846892
even a random mechwarrior image from google would have been better
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>>125846212
this is why you had to make a new thread? for that?
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Crocodile penis
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This robot grind event is really medicore.
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age
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what?
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Just started and pretty much read that the Timberwolf is a solid starter mech choice. About 500k creds short of buying it.

The Prime seems like a solid choice on paper over the despite what the doc in the OP said and i honestly don't care too much about the jump jets.

Am i missing something or should i just carry on? Basically going for dakka build on timberwold. Seems like the right choice.
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>>125858124
>Timber Wolf
Uh... Well yeah, it's still pretty meta.
But the whole point is customization, so even when you buy the prime you can outfit it with different omni-pods for different builds.
If that's really what you're shooting for, go for it. Just keep a grindin' them C-Bills.
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>>125858124
Only the CT matters you just buy omnipods later
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>>125858229
>>125858253
I see, much appreciated.

>>125858229
I feel like there is something you want to say in regards to the Timber Wolf. I'm all ears.
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>>125858536
>I'm all ears
So is the Timby.
kek

Eh, I just don't agree with it being a good starter mech I think. I don't think many Clan mechs right now are good starter mechs due to their recent re-ballance and Clan heat sink nerfs. But you'll have to come across that sooner or later anyway, so there's no point in defending you from it or steering you away from it. Clans lasers are still very meta regardless.
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I didn't care much for the Warhammer or the Rifleman, but for whatever reason I'm tempted to buy the Archer.

Not sure why, I guess I just like muh LRMs
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>>125858768
You want it because the Vulture is a good looking mech, and the Archer is the original Vulture with manhands and legs.
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Is there a Star Trek technical manual equivalent for mechs?
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>>125860298
Lots.
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>>125860298
>>125860298
There's a bunch of fluff shit that you can probably find on the dropbox over at the BattleTech general in /tg/
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Is the target info gathering module any good?
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>>125860708
no
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>>125859614
why is the vulture so tall? it's taller than some assaults.
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>>125860783
Nah, the cockpit is just at the very top of the mech, and confuses you to all fuck.
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How the fuck do airstrikes work? I popped one while staring at a group of enemies on the other side of the map and it just spawned a smoke grenade under my feet and hit me instead
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>>125861505
You probably had an invisible wall in front of you. It happens, it's annoying as fuck.
Airstrikes and arty will only be marked wherever the torso cross-hairs are pointing, not the circle.
Best advised to aim it at ground near or under enemies not at them directly, sometimes instead of the mech you'll get whatever's behind the mech, and if that's a wall 1k meters behind the mech, tough shit.
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Robots!
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>>125860781
why not
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>>125866073
What does it do?
And what benefits would it give to you
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>>125847951
Literally who
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I love pub DDCs that flee from battlemasters and urbies.
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>>125867361
Id run too if i had 3 lrm 5s, an ac 10 and two medium lasers.
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>>125847951
yes

do you rike it :^^^^^^^^^)
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This tonnage matching.
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It's fun listening to dedicated shitter sphere units bitch about that they have to wait in queues in large events like Tukayyid, complaining that they should be able to utilize their 1300 people population advantage against clans "because reasons."

How about those faggots start fighting each other, IS vs IS?

Oh no wait, don't want to do that, "because reasons." Instead they'll try and wait in lines to fight smaller clan populations, then bitch and whine when they get stomped by organized unit or pickup groups.

"WAAA WAAA, NERF CLANS, GIB IS MO' QUIRKS! WAA WAAA!"
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>>125872571
>dedicated shitter sphere units bitch about that they have to wait in queues in large events like Tukayyid
>How about those faggots start fighting each other
Are you retarded?
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Hey, are the leaderboard scores only counting victories and not defeats? I'm pretty sure my 10-match score total should be much higher than it is by now.
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>>125874230
15 minute delay
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>>125874647
I've been waiting and playing for a lot longer than 15 minutes. More like 150.
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I don't even go to this general but sauce me on OP pls.
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>>125876664

Fushigi na Somera-chan
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>>125877024
Thanks famio, enjoy your gay robot game or whatever this is.
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>>125877113
NP
I am used to spoonfeed shitters in this thread
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Cute!
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>account injection: premium time
>go check it out
>63 days

Nigga what?
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>it will never be 2012 ever again.
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>>125872571
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gg
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>>125878912
>most kills, 388 damage
ALL CT BABY
You faggots need to stop shooting side bits.
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>Clanbacks are squishy waaaah
Do you even twist?
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>>125879235
In the upper tiers players know how to torso twist
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>>125882520
>>125879836
>>125879235

perhaps you guys should return to the mechwarrior academy and practice the fundamentals of torso twisting
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>this guy
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best mech
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hello?
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>>125885872
hi
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Rate my builds friends
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>>125886925
0/10
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Jesus fucking Christ on a stick, who the fuck lets Shitter Sphere scrubs play on clans...

>LRMs!
>oh no, everyone hide near omega!
>WTF WE STILL GETTING LRM SHOT WTF
>nobody bothers to shoot at the commando spamming NARC's into their assholes
>When they finally take notice, they don't even bother shooting it's legs to stop it from running at 150kph.
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>>125886925
Needs more UAC/20
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anybody up for clan red dog cw?
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>>125887152
fuck off pardo
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>>125886925
brand new AH with fresh xl 255
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>>125888341
al build i really fucking need to fix
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>>125888341
You don't need more then like 8 back armor, SRM4 has a way better spread than SRM 6.
Ideally you should run like this: http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=242&l=b2f25203de950929eba36dcf8b6e3b29c7641c8e
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>>125888662
and lastly an a build that im pretty sure eats shit no matter what so whatever

cn9-a is just a terrible mech isnt it
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>>125888826
CN9-A is a decent zombie mech: http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=7&l=c6316f20b4da807a0fbf95a0107603ff9ebd350b
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>>125888662
Large pulse is king on AL: http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=28&l=bba9be4d06eb91a2028018a065a2f0b52f5df9cc
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I've been selling and trading shitty CS-GO crates, TF2 hats & guns as well as pointless trading cards for a while now, and have accumulated around 70 dollars into my steam wallet.

I was wondering if the assault pack for MWO might be a good investment since it's 20% off, or if I should wait for the holiday sale that's starting on the 22nd and seeing if these DLC packs will get discounted even further then?
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>>125889941
Nothing in MWO is worth your money.
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>>125890131
Guess I'll just wait for the in-game sale to start on the 22nd, then, and buy some MC with steam wallet monopoly money.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Money that I've never actually traded real currency for, it's not worth a lot to me.
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>>125889941
Oh god no. Don't spend a single cent on the MWO steam packs. You only get two mechs. Count 'em: two. You need three of each to master them, and you only get two mechs, and that's two different mechs altogether.
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>Clan standards and IS standards are interchangeable
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So I forgot, how do I avoid having to reinstall this entire shit game from scratch if I wanted to add it to my steam library?
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>>125891005
You're better off just downloading the whole thing from steam. That way you'll never EVER use PGI's launcher again. It downloads the whole thing through steam. No computer freezing launcher.
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>>125891953
I can still launch the game outside of steam if I don't want to log more than minimum necessary hours for a review, right?
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>>125892082
Unfortunately no.
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>>125892223
Well, fuck that then. Aside from maybe having an easier time downloading shit patches, there's literally no reason for me to migrate to steam.
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Why the FUCK do retards play anything other than conquest when you make double the dosh for the same effort as the other modes?
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lads pls
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>>125866425
-25% target info gathering time
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>>125889941

PGI only did a discount because they realized it's expected. They will never offer an actual discount on stuff again, and if they do, it's gonna be something pathetic, like 10%.

Like the other guy said, it's 2 robots. You're gonna need to get 4 more if you want masteries, and you do. Just get the c-bill variants instead. (S)team mechs? More like (S)hit mechs.
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>>125897354
The only alternative with steam wallet money is MC, which, after looking at the prices, doesn't seem like a smart idea either. getting those same 2 mechs as in the pack costs either, like, 14000 MC or 7000 if they're ever on 50% sale.
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>>125892732
Because people find it fun. Not everyone is a no life like you.

-reddit
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>>125892732
remember when we used to be able to select the game mode we wanted to play?
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>>125900134
but now we select by voting
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>>125897354
But PGI doesn't control the steam sales, Steam does.
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So has the CW map become completely inconsequential or the mode not being played to the point that none of planets are changing hands after the Steam release?
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>>125904913
I know I haven't touched that shit.
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Legohammer pics
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>>125905704
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>>125903741
That's only half true.

Steam control the timing of their major sales but each publisher chooses their discount and publishers completely control sales that fall outside the big ones.
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>>125905914
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>>125904913
uh, what? CJF/CW are taking tons of planets.
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>>125905704
why do those ppcs look so fucking small. they don't look like warhammer arms at all
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>join match
>enemy team has only dire wolves

WOOOOOOW.
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>>125889941
The in-game bundles are a better deal. Not great, but better.
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>housemates fucking around with fusebox because someone blew the kitchen fuse
>they shut off my computer as soon as a match starts
>try to log in, get this

gg clay
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>>125906446

Dennis has a huge fear of long barrels.
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>>125909285
literally who
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>>125909084
>Success
>PGI counts Errors as success
No wonder they think they are doing so well
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tfw missed out on the early morning kong drops
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>>125911710
it was not morning for eurokong
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>>125911710
tfw we dodged a bullet
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Is MWO p2w?
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>>125911505
He's the guy in charge of screwing up decent looking concept art in favor of stubby cannons and laser cubes. It has gotten so bad the concept art for new Mechs now has the cubes already on them since the artist knows his freedom of expression requires mandated mediocrity.
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>>125912069
>dodged a bullet
>missing out on these fresh memes
wew lad
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>>125914630
>fresh memes

But you don't have any
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>>125914630
>haruko/greg thinking she got fresh memes
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>>125915073
says you buddy

I got the freshest memes in town

bazinga
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>>125911710
>>125912069
>Vass, Harabec, dudebot, Clay, Kakos, Quantum, Laser and Dashing all actually playing
>Not a newfriend shitter in sight
Good thing those weaboo fuckin shits didn't show up.
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>>125915758
whoa lad
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>>125916253
>my grorious dragon, forded ova a frouthsand time, can core frew anyting
Pls go.
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>>125915342
b a z i n g a
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>>125916480
sorry senpai, no can do desu lad
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wew
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>>125920082
wew lad
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ded thread
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>>125923795
ded gaem
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Anyone up for robots?
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>this whole thread.
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>>125917174
Where were you when Greg lost his crown?
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Is this a good beginner build for a light ? I want something that can go fast and jump while being really annoying.
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Bump with dream game.
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Firestarter still too op pls nerf

>>125926375
That's what I'm using right now except only one jj and more armor. I like the A more with a shitload of spl though.
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I forget, what prestige do I have to be to unlock tank legs like in Armored Core? My gundam sucks without them.
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>>125905704
>>125905914
>>125906102
Forumwarrior shoop proves that PGI knows not what it is doing.
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FUCKING SHITTERS AND THEIR SHIT BUILDS
JESUS MOTHER FUCKING CHRIST
WHAT THE FUCK MORE DO I HAVE TO FUCKING DO TO CARRY THESE GODDAMN RETARDS
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>>125931621
fuck off pardo
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>>125931621
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>>125931935
die of brain cancer.
you, your family, your friends and your pets along with you.
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>>125887152
aww, i wish i had a tail so much....
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>>125932401
You wouldn't. It would constantly have more fecal matter on it than Indians have on their food.
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>>125931621
well gee pardo
maybe you should
uhh
git gud family
:^^^^)
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>>125932678
>he cant take care of his own tail
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i caught my parent's cat and investigated his tail
it's pretty clean...
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>>125933948
Have fun licking your balls.
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>>125934547
>>125932678
peasant dog owner detected
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>>125934547
b-but i'm a girl...
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>>125932401
who are you tail-chan?
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>>125933948
do you need reminding how it's cleaned and the consequences thereafter?
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>>125934805
psh... whatever faggot, everybody knows there's no such thing as girls. They're just a fairy tale dads tell their sons so they behave.
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>>125931621
Hey, i have a life and i'm not some nerd who has nothing to do with his time. I just want to have fun and i don't need some person telling me how bad i am. I don't do it for you. I do it for me and i'm having fun.

Everyone downvote this comment so everybody's safespace is protected and other people don't have to read this no life loser's post.

You sound like an annoying twit and i would hate to ever play with you. Get a life.

-reddit.
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>>125934805
steam?
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>>125936573
urmum645
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>>125937063
ecks de de de de
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>>125906446
Because if they look too much like the warhammer used to(before the lawsuit) there will be another lawsuit
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tfw dead mumble
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Who is your Kong husbando? Mine is Kakos "Klord" Kaelus Kolos of Kong.
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>>125939184
>sit in afk
>Complain
nice
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>>125943170
but I did leave afk tho
then dudebot came in the channel and kept making fart noises so I left
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>>125943770
dudebutt would never do such a thing
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>mfw I go onto the steam goldforums and see a huge gathering of golds shitting on people who bought steam DLC mechs and are pissed that they can't use both their expensive robots in CW necause the packs have one clan and one IS robot each.
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>>125948430
How'd it end?
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I haven't really used Clan mechs yet...is the damage from the burst-firing autocannons split between all the shells or what? Surely they can't do full damage for each hit.
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Finished my Firestarters with 9mil left over, should I move to the Hellbringer, Stormcrow or Stalker next? My endgame being getting a full skilled out stable for CW so I can play with you nerds.
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>>125951152
Yeah, it's split between each shell lol. Damage was meant to be spread that way instead. It mostly works.
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>>125947412
>mfw a few days ago equal amount of good and bad reveiws, today bad reviews replaced by all the golds typing a sentence of shit and thumbs up so the negs don't show up anymore.
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I swear these leaderboards take an hour or more to update. I'm pretty sure I should be near the top of one of the Mad boards by now. Multiple 300+ score matches and a few high outliers means I should be in the top ten by now at the very least.
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>>125954031

They dropped to 80%. It was at 83% last I checked. Give it another week, and they'll be in the mid 70s.
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>>125955103
It was 76% yesterday, so they bumped it again.
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>>125954237
300 matchscore won't make you to shit

you're going to need 500-600 matchscore to be top rank in these
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>>125954031
>>125954031
OMG ITS JUST LIKE REDDIT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>125955175

Bless the trueborn white knights and their golden credit cards.

What an incredibly shit game to devote their entire existence towards. They must be checking the steam reviews every hour.
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>>125955637
Good thing I decided not to play. Game is not only terrible but so is the community. Especially bashing on new players who are spending money to support your game? Come on man.
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>>125955637
Japanese have this down to a science.
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>>125955440
The highest current ranking player in the leaderboard I'm working on has 3000+ score. If they are genuinely taking the best 10 matches regardless of wins or losses, a basic low average of 300 should already be placing me in that range. I've already score numerous matches with 400+, 500+ and 600+, but it feels like the system is only counting wins because a number of those high-score matches were me carrying a bad team.
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>>125955894
Cool story shitter
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>Look at the reddits, forums, steam forums

Same old, same old.
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>>125957685

In the golden light of the here and now, there is only old men.
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>>125955103
>hk416
my fav to be honest family
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>>125957915

Animooted four you, big guy CIA.
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>>125958159
Do you really want to live forever? forever and ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGAVwQAmAHs
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Just remember, guys, they have significant numbers not using steam. If they were all on steam, this game would be catapulted straight in steam top 50.

His position has changed from the old 'top 10,' and 'top 25.'

Top 100 when?
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Hey guys I got a grill's number. Am I a normie now?
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>>125959150
Do you have a wife and a job?

You have a long way to go on the path to normiehood, grasshopper.
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>>125959182
Clay, you don't just wife first without girlfriend or fiance.

I have a job but it's not quite a career. Actually, I've got two jobs. One of them's in my field.

I still wanna pursue my passions of shitposting and vidya though
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>>125959150
you talk to grills?
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>>125959290
Why 2 jobs
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>>125959390
They're both part time
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>>125959290
>Talking about having a job like it is something special

What do you even mean with "in my field"
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test
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Normies, get the fuck out.
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>>125959290
Thus, your path has only just begun, grasshopper.
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>>125959150
I'm NEET technically not since im a little older than what the NEET age is supposed to be, i think i'm just an old bum nowand have a gfshes even qt3.14. Does this a normie make me?
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This thread sure has gotten strange over the years.

Why does it still exist?
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>>125962316
>technically not since im a little older than what the NEET age is supposed to be, i think i'm just an old bum now

What are you even talking about.

NEET means Not in Employement, Education or Training.

It's not age specific.
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>>125962484
Because, like the thread, the game(s?) still exists and is just as strange.
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>>125964368
funnier then it probably is.
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Guys seriously, why did I get 63 days of free premium?
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>>125967416
Did you buy anything? You can have banked Premium Time too.
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>>125967416
dunno. you buy a package?
https://mwomercs.com/profile/stats?type=challenges
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This is only semi /gerg/ related, and I apologize for the shill citizen in advance but... seems this guy involved in MechWarrior LL works for CIG, and talks about his love of Battletech, and possibly using what he's learned from StarCitizen to make a future BattleTech game much like the original LivingLegends.
Maybe just to give you all some hope for the future of robots.

https://youtu.be/IMZ8iFy4gTA?t=25m45s

He even mentions the pig and mwo.
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>>125972198
Yeah people are going nuts that Sean Tracy still wants to make a Battletech game.
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>PPC arm model on atlas

Like a fucking Megatron scope gun but tiny as MWO playerbase
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>>125974357
wut
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Clan derp dog pugs in CW have gotta be the worst fucking goldshitters mentally handicapped turds in the entire playerbase of this game.
I just cant fucking win a single game with furry dog pugs in CW no matter how hard I carry.
I regularly do highest damage and highest amount of kills in the entire fucking game yet it matters nothing.
Its just not fucking possible.
The shit I have fucking seen in 2 days of clan red dog CW is fucking ridiculous.
Fucking people with STAR COLONEL rank overheating five times in a row in forge map.
People mixing 4 different types of weapons on fucking 65 tonner mechs BECAUSE *EVERY* HARDPOINT MUST BE FILLED RIGHT GUISE XD
And lrm shitters lrm shitters EVERYWHERE that engage in brawling distance and fire lrm in the face of someone.
People with the situational awareness of fucking mud slugs.
Holy fucking cocks.
I am amazed at how fucking shit can this people be at this game.
Meanwhile IS pugs dont take a single lrm boat, all in compact dropdecks of either large pulse cancerbolts, dakka jagers and enforcers and king crabs.
I just dont understand the disparity between the average clanner pug and the average IS pug.
Is it because clanner pugs are fucking grabdeal kiddies that bought clan mechs with mommy credit card or maybe retarded old gold men roleplaying with stock builds?
I dont fucking know.
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>>125977023
epic
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>>125977280
go fuck yourself
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>>125977773
Epic braincancer

>Select all images with pasta
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any body want to play some MWO?
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>>125951319
Do you like going fast and having stupidly broken hitboxes and loadouts? Stormcrow

Do you like laservomit and going slow, and love penis shaped mechs? Stalker 4N

Do you love laservomit, going slow, and hate penis shaped mechs? Battlemaster

Do you love close range laservomit, and need Cloak-of-Skillâ„¢? Hellbringer

Do you love laser vomit and love historical shitmechs that have become not shitmechs via quirks? Quickdraw

The problem again is that most people who play CW in kong are in GONK, which is clan only. So you won't be able to use your firestarter if you go that way.

Also keep in mind that it costs just about the same to fit out clan and IS robits even though the up-front price of clams are much higher.

lastly, you don't have to have the tip top robots to play, just hop onto mumble and ask if anyone is on. Specifically ask for kaelus

>>125977023
get rekt
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>>125978895
Clan robots are still more expensive in the long run because a large stable of IS mechs will eventually start gathering a large enough variety of parts to share with each other for any build. Since only four of them need to be ready to go at any one time for CW, the cost savings add up over time. Only the purchase of double heat sinks and weight savers really need to be factored into the cost, and numerous mechs already come with doubles.

Clan IICs are a whole different proposition though. It is nice that the whole collection adds up to exactly 250, which is why they increased the weight cap recently.
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G-guys? Am I seeing this right? I thought crabs didn't come out for c-bills until January?
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>>125981118
Last Tuesday.
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>>125981118
>>125981467
>Tfw I missed out on buying more shit IS 50 tonners in favor of the shadow cat

Man, as if my decision wasn't bad enough.
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>>125981467
>completely missed crab c-bill release because I was too busy playing Xrd and pathfinder
>didn't prepare any memebuilds ahead of time

It's a good thing I still have all these c-bills though, a shame I'm one mechbay short.
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>6 million for 2% increase in range

WEW. Dont tell me I need to buy the module again if I upgrade it.
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>>125984023
what?
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>>125984121
What?
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How is the Clan warfare supposed to be fun when every match has enemy only dropping on dire and timber wolves?
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>>125984987
>Clan warfare
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>>125984987
>shitter sphere comlpaining about clans when clans either have to use their best mechs or lose to the flavour of the month shitter sphere meta mechs

wew lad, i shiggy diggy.
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>>125985054
More like Clan slaughter
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>>125959150
Obviously not if you mention it on a Brasilian coffee futures trading forum.

>>125984023
No, the modules update to whatever you unlocked the skill to.
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>>125964368
At least 80% of the replies in that thread are telling the poster he's an idiot to expect the game to actually explain the difference between Clan and Inner Sphere, let alone clearly marking which Mechs belong to each side. Totally not a lack of supportiang in-game material or lore to explain things, new players are expected to know what to search for online and in which forum threads the information is buried to put it all together.

CW doesn't even explain when first clicking on it that you need four Mechs for IS or Clan within a drop deck tonnage limit until you first attempt to actually make a drop after having already chosen a faction.
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>>125950786
we got fucking destroyed
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How Should I equip Marauder 3R? The other two variants do everything I want the to do and I cant find any reason to use this one.
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Marik attacking planets?!

What sorcery is this?!
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>>125986708
When it comes to variants I don't like but need to level just for mech trees, I just build to quirks. Looks like it has quirks for Peppers and Goose so just do that -
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=345&l=05251717342b0d627ee741efe92ca984d6fba08c
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>>125986923
All those sub 1K dmg shitters
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>>125986923
>getting outdamaged by more than 1k damage by HELLOKITTYWARFARE and a random pink chicken pug

unistall.
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>>125989115
>not having top score
Kill yourself, anon
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>>125989414
>Faggot Wombat telling anyone to kill themselves

lmao
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>>125972198
Fuck off Kaelus
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>>125990469
You will never be happy.

:^)
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>pardo
>not even tier1
>talks shit
>http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/217800-what-the-hell/
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>>125981746
>mfw just sperged 40 mil buying/outfiting 4 crabs
HAHA TIME FOR SHITMECHS
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>>125995407
Why would you buy a whole set all at once instead of one at a time?
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>>125996056
Because some people are not poor senpai
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>>125996228
But what if you find out you don't like the Crab?
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>>125996598
Just Get Rekt
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I've got a question, why would anyone use the looking for group function? It just seems like a way for pugs to fight organized teams.
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>>125997848
Some people hate themselves and simply enjoy being obliterated.

If there's one thing PGI does well, it's that it recognizes this fact and caters to those people.
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From bad, to worse - the story of how I went from playing with clan wolf pugs, to playing with clan smoke jaguar pugs.
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>people complain about clan mechs being op
>5-6 specific clan mechs are considered "broken" due to their build versatility
>nerf the entirety of clans, creating further disparity between the shit clan mechs people laugh about and the "omg broken" ones
>now clans are forced to run the "broken" ones simply by virtue of not wanting to play at a complete disadvantage

So, instead of introducing new things to sell; ie. clan omnimech variants with different hardpoints and more hardpoints in general, they opt to nerf bat the everliving shit out of the bad mechs and ensure nobody will in their right mind play them for any other reason than to fuck around?

Imagine all the things a summoner could do if it could mount a ballistic weapon where the missile is. Or had a variant with 1-2 energy hardpoints in the side torsos.

Or an ice ferret that had more energy hardpoints to give it brawling viability. or an adder that could stack more lasers.

But nope, instead we gotta just nerfbat the entirety of the clans to try and placate scrubs that rush into the guns of timber wolves, ebon jaguars or hellbringers.
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>>125989414
Clay what's your litigation specialty?
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>>126006289
Delicious clan tears. I'm sorry they took away your 90% winrate.
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just fuck my fucking shit up senpai
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>>126007251
cucked hard
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>>125957207
Leaderboards don't count your match score, there is separate formula for this. Formula: (Solo Kill x 30) + (Kill Most Damage x 20) + (Killing Blow x 10) + ( Kill Assist x 10) + (Win × 10) + (Loss × 5) + (Survive × 10) + (Dead × 5) + ((Damage done - Team Damage) ÷ 15). Which means If you win while being alive killing 8 persons doing 1200 DMG and getting assists on all enemy team, you will get 300-400 score instead of 1k.
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>>125986708
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=345&l=264d225ca2cbbe6f8656cfaa7b5cc79919aefbe3
set ACs for chain fire, there are few pilots who can withstand a presure of constant bullets to the face.
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>>126016081
Forgot to set FF, here it is proper build: http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=345&l=0b6a25fa2d135da5c7f1fb60d6eb00d14dd557df
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http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=331&l=4a587745e4357d304475b862e64f729c42014db4

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=330&l=684a5ad89d3942db8f10f9eba7d4d3a6502dd10f

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=332&l=aef0db7edc47ad6404af722c4645fcfddf34e36c

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=333&l=5ecab2d74da6f971a57239114298f8515fe31923

rate my crabs senpai
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>>126007251
>greg not knowning the filter
Kek say Family next time nerd
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>>126018282
but I do know about the filter family
baka desu senpai
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>>126019280
>willing using filters
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>>126019280
>>126019640
He's fucking up the order.
YOU'RE FUCKIN UP THE ORDER GREG
baka senpai desu
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>>126019640
>>126020258
wew lads
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>>126006289
Obviously the clans mechs have a large spread, but so do the IS mechs. It's just that nobody cares about IS shitmechs.
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>>126023881
Clans have a far bigger difference between performance than IS does though, as expected when IS has over twice as many mechs though.

Clans have their handful of strong mechs (EBJ HBR TBR SCR DWF ACH JR7) with a few mediocre mechs (MDD, WHK, HBK) and the rest are awful (MLX, KFX, ADR, IFR, SHC, NVA, SMN, ON1, GAR, HGN, EXE).

Meanwhile on the IS side of things, you've got a huge majority of mediocre mechs, a handful of completely abysmal ones that even quirks didn't fix, and then now quite a few highly quirked high performers all across the board. Nevermind that IS is ridiculous efficient tonnage wise now. The Blackjack, Quickdraw, Stalker, and Battlemaster are all quite light for their class but perform well above their tonnage, offensively and defensively.

In terms of available fun mechs, IS blows out Clans right now. There's way, way more variety to be had on the IS side.
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Asking Maruder owners, how is it? Thinking about buying it but concerned with dat torso. Holy fucking target.

Also losing my shekel virginity to MWO.
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>>125986292
A lot of people like to just click "next" on everything without reading. I partly agree with both sides on this topic. On the one hand, you should do even a small bit of background on the game. On the other, a SINGLE pop-up explaining what Faction Play is, that will disappear forever and that most people will likely ignore, isn't enough of an explanation of the nuances of CW.
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>>126028309
Marauders are pretty dank yo. Don't worry about them torsos, I wouldn't call it tanky but it's not paper either, just don't invest much into back armor.
Do like 55 front, and 9 back armor on your sides, and 85 front and 7 back CT and it works great.
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>>126034612
Thanks senpai, i bought it anyway and just waiting for the the hot beef injection on their side. You only live once amirite?

You think i should change out the XL engines for regular 300?
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>>126035252
Harabec runs XLs on some of his. But even he'll tell you they're not really XL safe. I only use standards in mine, my shit-builds rolling with 325's in each, the Bounty Hunter with a 295.
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Anyone want to play? I'm getting tired of being shit on in solo que.
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>>126035587
Thank you for the advice, family.
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>>126035252
>>126035587
I use an XL360 in the 3R particularly, indeed. The Marauder is an interesting mech, much like the Crab and Jaguar it's setup with a fairly amazing forward profile. From head on it's incredibly difficult to properly single out the CT, and a very minute (1~5 degrees) twist can roll damage onto your arms or off the RT quite easily. A Marauder that knows how to pick its angles and use its speed well can make great use of an XL, but that said if you can't it's basically the least safe XL heavy in the entire game. Anyone to your side won't miss, period, so positioning is of utmost importance. I personally love it because it makes an excellent hillhumper with UAC5/2PPC, given its top notch quirks and excellent accel bonuses.

Really though you should just stick to standards, Marauders can tank for fucking days with their left side and just will not fucking die. If you go XL it should at least be a 340+, entirely for the purposes of speed/agility rather than weapon payload increase.
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Hey /greg/, is the Trenchbucket good? It's like the one mech everyone seems to forget exists even though it doesn't look as bad as the Vindicator. After the last quirk balance pass even Kintaros are a regular if uncommon sight, but I can't remember ever seeing more than two or three Trebuchet pilots around.
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>>126038384
Probably gonna forgo the xl until i get the hang of the angles. I'm just a quickmatch shitter anyway and still buying mechs. Any build recommendations? The PPC preloaded ones make me nervous and i just want to dakka.I only got the 3 basic ones btw.
This is my first IS mech so
iIt's wierd not having omnipods.
yeah i'm aware there are sites but im asking you specifically what you and other marauder users in the thread use to shit on people in qm.
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>>126038384
You prefer UAC5? I can't stand the jamming on anything other than mechs with the nojam quirk, so my standard Mad is making do with a pure classic build. Thankfully I had an AC5 cooldown module from back when I was playing with my Wolverines.

320 XLs are what I used to replace the AC with a gauss waffle, but I got bored. This leader board challenge is hard.
>>
merry meme drops be happening
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>>126040185
Trenchbucket is good, yeah yeah yeah. It ain't bad, no no no. Fatts swears by his. Ask him his builds, he does pretty well in them.

If you want a real forgotten mech use a kintaro.
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>>125934818
>>125936573

i don't play this game anymore, sorry, i play botes instead
also it's not linked to my steam

p.s. out of curiosity, is streakcrow as amazing as she was back then?
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Is there anything better than the King Crab? This thing was literally made to print C-Bills.
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am i completely blind or why can't i find the marauder in the battlemech store
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>>126017987
Should've bought Blackjacks/10
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>>126047893
Marauder is currently only available for real $$$ from the website. Doesn't come out for MC or CBills till... well they haven't even released a date it'll be available yet. Till then, Grab Deal: https://mwomercs.com/marauder
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>>126048059
but I already have those
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>>126047726
Double Gauss or what? I am about to buy a King Crab and dunno what to do with it.
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>My first clam onion is one of the side variants because the faster I basic them the faster I can sell them
>Slap in 2MPL 2UAC5 ASRM12 and some modules I already had
>Genuine fun
Fuck me. It's not the whomp of a single big surm splat or the steady 1-2-3 of my Krab but damn is it satisfying having a constant random output of damage, buffet style.
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>>126048112
fuck that then
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>>126048302
I'm just using 4 UAC/5s and a shoulder laser.

Literally just started playing this shit 3 days ago.
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>>126048515
...did you buy the King Crab performance pack from Steam?
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>>126048603
Nah used the ingame credits to buy the KCG-000 and outfitted it with the UAC/5s
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>>126048880
Oh. Pretty similar though from the sound. The performance pack build isn't at all a bad one from what I remember, but the ammo bundles need to be moved around. Pretty sure they're stupidly all stacked in the torsos for ultimate bomb sides.
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>>125994862

>I have gotten to the conclusion that PGI cares nothing about the game being balanced.
They only and exclusively care about about what they are selling to be appealing and op at the moment of release.
I will not be giving PGI another euro until they wipe this ******** 'quirk' system clean and actually try to balance the game in a fair way.

Good on you, Pardo. You realized what everybody here has known since 2012. Now fuck off.
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>>126049859
So what would real balance look like? I always see people jump up and down about this shit, but no one seems to have any clue as to what they actually want or how to balance the game.
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>>126050869
Why'd they have to make the Black man's side-kick a white woman and a basketball?

It's almost as bad as the fact that the fist black Jedi has a purple sword. Like, wtf?

smdh
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>Kong group down to a 5man, 7 pubbies officially outnumber us now
>Some faggot over ingame voip says "3 Atlas push under the arc in about 30 seconds."
>45 seconds later both teams have mixed together into one huge shitshow deathball
This is why I play this game.
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>>126050795

PGI is incapable of real balance. If they weren't, they'd have given IS robots strong secondary abilities that are simply not available to the clans in order to make up for how much better and stronger clan robots are.

Instead, we have quirks that are being weaponized to serve the old Balance By Grab Deal doctrine.

Meanwhile, steambabbies and golds alike are complaining that the game doesn't actually run at all on the listed min- and recommended specs. You need a super beast machine to play this shit game, and many omega level star lords are calling PGI's VR bluff, since they're stuck on DX9 (for some fucking reason), and you still gain 20 FPS by turning off the HUD.
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>>126051045
Hey man they gotta make him as racist as possible and >>>/wsg/864049 :^)
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>>126049859
>euro
Assuming it has any value left after ISIS is done conquering you.
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>>126051414
That was fucking amazing.
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>>126051742
/pol/ never fails
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How are the videogames, my team?
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>>126053425
I hate my video games.
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Hello, /gerg/

Been on a bit of a mecha binge lately. Replayed my old Armored Core series, and redownloaded HAWKEN. HAWKEN is really dead, so I've come across thsi game. Just browsing this thread there seems to be a lot of hate for the developers. A bit more than the usual level I see in other generals.

Is this game not worth even a download for a new player at this point?
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>>126054092
every general hates their game, it's kind of the vg meme

devs are shit, but the game is fun anyway and you might as well try it
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>>126054092
The Devs don't have a good history, and their recent step up in quality has people shaming them for their past mistakes as they try to duct-tape their shit back together. The game is fun, and it's worth a try if you're into MechWarrior multiplayer arena combat.

Don't give them any money though, less you really feel they deserve it after your experience. They're making an attempt, but we've all been liked to by PGI before.

Also, it's really easy to rag on an indi-dev with like 50 people working for them that isn't known for anything.
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MWO is only actually played during US prime time, and the growth since the first week has been super minimally viable.

It still maintains a 55-60% ratio of people who own it, yet have never played it.

Total people who have it has increased by a mere 25,000~ since this time last week.

Launch peak of 4100~ players seems like an impossible to breach goal, and activity tends to hover in the 800-2000~ area. Over time, this activity will likely stagnate and settle.

Russ changed his position from 'the game totally is top 25 if we add all players to steam' to 'the game totally is top 50 if we add all players to steam.'

Review score is a shifting mess of 70-80%, thanks to the NGNG and outreacharoud negativity police, who seemingly have devoted their lives to make sure negative reviews don't gain too much ground.

The steam forums are full of crazy PGI drones who insist that the game is spot on perfect, and new players are all just entitled.

Overall, it's gone as well as expected. If they do a REALL GOOD event for christmas, they might breach the 4100~ top, but I doubt it. They should have done the stockings event right as they launched the shit on steam, and kept it going until early january. Their greed will once again hurt ratings, and it's also not likely that they'll put more grab deals on steam itself, once again because of their greed.
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>>126054282
>>126054183

Okay, I'll put it in my download queue.

What's the community like? Is it just one notch less-dead than HAWKEN or is it somewhat thriving?
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>>126054557
lots of old men who love robots and are bad at videogames is the main group
otherwise like any f2p game theres always players around
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>>126054557
Mixed bag. Community is alive with shills and bitter vets alike.
Some will be helpful, others will shit on you just to shit on you.

Some of it is comedy gold. You'll have to learn a bit of the nuances and names as you go, since most of it has been around since 2012 and has developed its own neurotic sub-culture.
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>>126054092

The game's pretty medicore, but sometimes lots of fun. It's the only western robot game that's currently playable, so they have a legit monopoly going. Doesn't help that many of MWO's features are little more than duct tape and hope.

The devs are pure poison, and MWO is one of the most cynical cashgrab titles you're likely to ever see. There's lots of history involved, but it's not really important if you're just starting out.

Remember to not feed the pig. Even if you really enjoy your first go on PGI's wild ride, resist the temptation to buy shit. You'll quickly find out why it's a bad idea to give them money, and what sort of grind you're dealing with here.

MWO is best enjoyed with other people. We maintain a mumble that's open to all but the most sperg of assholes, and many of our people are 3 year veterans of this AAA F2P living product.
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>>126054092
depends what you want out of the game. If you like the idea of a loose mechwarrior that's only PvP deathmatch and a bit broken, plenty of stuff not finished and an mess of an interface disguising how much grind there is and not disguising how much money the devs want to drain you for then I guess it's okayish but be very cautious.

DESU the game is a good casual shooter with a mech twist but beyond that it's mediocre pointless and when you think about it it's a horrible mess trying to scam you. PGI are the best game designers you'll find in F2P /s

but don't take my word for it when die hard players are asked what they get out of it! the truth is they want to burn their money on mech porn and have no idea why they should do it other than being slaves to their own degeneracy. they'll never understand how stupid they look.
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>>126058436
>To be honest anagram is not spelt desu chan board :/
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>>126054092
It's definitely worth a download so you can form your own opinion. Stomping around and blowing shit up feels great.
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>>126054092
BTW learn from this thread about the UI what it was and what you have to contend with now.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/342200/discussions/0/494632768632786573/
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>>126058863
>Stomping around and blowing shit up feels great

for all the flaws the game really does capture the responsiveness of giant mecha combat, hawken never did and that's why it died
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>>126058436
Fuck this guy, this thinking ruined earning. People want a grind, no Fuck you, this game isn't about grinding. Its about much combat, the devs should be pumping out maps and men's and making the game better. More lance combat, larger maps with more mechs.
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>the old UI is better
In what fucking universe?
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>>126059446
>the devs should be pumping out men's
Lauren will hop right on that, have no doubt.
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>>126059167
true it's just a shame about the devs, and the community as well. newbs getting stomped not knowing how to change up stock armour values and not knowing why they die like weak fucks and ranting about it. tutorial did it's job!

>>125954031

Holy sheit not joking, not a neg review in sight but a bunch of retard 1 liners!
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>>126059576
Fuckin auto correct mechs.
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>>126059662
Either way it still stands.
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>>126059446
exactly the fuckwits don't even hunger for anything more like gamemodes, more ai beyond shitty turrets, more objective play and demanding CW actually get's the planet resources and bounty hunting they said it would have 3 years ago. unit coffers will always be pointless.

No the morons just go MUH TEIR 1 and more mechs more mechs. I'd like to see the mongoose, sentinal, cyclopse, javlin, kodiak, grizzly etc etc etc but FUCK the game needs so much of everything else!!! not collect the mechs, have all the mechs, the perfect build mech collection fucking zombies think this is granturismo with mechs and forgot what mechwarrior was really all about!

yeah i hate the devs and the community who support all this shit instead of a real mech game.
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When will Kong come back to life?
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2012 gold who stopped playing forever ago, back when forest colony had sunlight and visibility, had this to say about his first meeting with the new and 'improved' forest colony.
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>>126063871
Well meme'd.
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Is Kakos "Kancermaster" Kolos really better than Kaelus "Ben worshipper" of Kong?
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>>126060147
>more like gamemodes
Because the game is all about robots shooting other robots. What other new game modes could you possibly make that wouldn't just boil down to more robot shooting or turn out to be boring trash that is not about shooting robots?
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http://community.battletechgame.com/forums/threads/678?page=5
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>>126067652
>"HBS has considered fan content contributions, and as we've seen in their responses to the community submitted voiceover suggestions, they continue to evaluate the idea."

Prepare for art and acting that'll make the 80's shit look good in comparison...
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>>126067154
vip - kill one particular bot/ gaurd one particular robot

escort - defend/destroy multiple targets before an area is reached or time has lapsed.

drop ship assault

info smuggle - retrieve and deposit data (capture the flag)

for fucks sake we don't even have king of the hill mode! which is assualt minus one sqaure. Pgi are either to shit to even do that or haven't the players to afford more modes.

totally shit however you cut it.
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>>126067154
Conquest in CW with respawns and more tickets to win, no stupid gate bullshit

>>126040191
3AC5 is good fun, as is 2AC5/2PPC on the 3R. The Bounty Hunter I run AC10/6ML all day and it's a wonderful line mech. The 5D makes for a solid laser boat, 3LPL/3ERLL/3LL and 2ML are all pretty cookie cutter solid builds. You can also do a medium pulse boat with SRM6s if you want to use the missile slots. The 5M I just run an AC20 and 5ML with. 3R and Bounty Hunter are hands down my favourites.

>>126041471
Leaderboard challenges are massive grinds. You grind all weekend in hopes of getting 10 lucky games where you get to carry the entire team. Obviously you have to be skilled in the first place to carry so hard, but it's really just luck of the draw that the match falls the right way for you. I wouldn't ever recommend bothering with them.
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>>126072853

But muh gates.
Muh lanes.
Muh death corridors.
Muh open killing fields.
Muh OGs.
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>>126069651
Aren't at least two of what you've described coming in CW phase 3?

>>126072853
>more tickets to win
...so games last even longer, and new players now have to grind out even MORE mechs for a drop deck? Sounds like a bad time.

>>126072959
CW is hilariously bad for all of that. What the hell were they thinking?
Oh wait, it didn't have gates and it was still terrible. What was the point of the gates again?
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The vass is eternal

http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/216653-steam-complainers/page__p__4866986#entry4866986
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>>126072959
muh 6 maps
muh hardcore experience
muh meatgrinders

>>126073346
>games last even longer
>have to grind out even more mechs

What are you talking about, they wouldn't last any longer than a normal CW match nor require more mechs, I'd cap the time at 30 minutes just the same. More tickets in comparison to normal conquest which is designed around a single life for 24 mechs. It would be retarded to port it over with the same win ticket number when you multiply the amount of mechs on the field by 4.

>Oh wait, it didn't have gates and it was still terrible. What was the point of the gates again?

Both CW gamemodes have gates anon. Just because the gates are open in counterattack doesn't mean they don't exist as a chokepoint you are forced to go through. The underlying problem is simply that static gameplay is boring as fuck, and when you demand one team defend a ring of objectives all in a stone's throw from each other you've got yourself a boring, campy mess of shit that's only redeeming quality is you get to shoot more mechs than a normal game
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>>126073684
>It would be retarded to port it over with the same win ticket number when you multiply the amount of mechs on the field by 4.

I thought that's why they're doing it as 4v4 instead. And not even making new maps, just porting over the standard play maps too. Least, that's what can be gathered from the teaser.
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>>126073907
I don't really recall any explicit confirmation 4v4 is going to have respawns.

They're making a new game mode for 4v4 anyways though, data retrieval, which I guess you could call some kind of lopsided conquest if you wanted?

I'm happy about 4v4 but it's completely different from what I just asked for. 4v4 is also going to be much tougher on people than I think they expect. In the PTS it didn't tend to be a back and forth fight, it was almost always a onesided stomp. Once you lose one mech you've lost a huge amount of your capability. Nevermind if you get a DC, then you're just fucked. 4v4 is a very competitive environment and a lot of people aren't expecting that I think.

Personally I'd rather they give us 8v8 back in some format rather than 4v4, that was the perfect number for this game, but I guess they just really don't want to do that.
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Guys is MWO p2w?
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>>126075563
Yes.
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>>126075563
Someone who pays money will always be better than you.

Yes.
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>>126075621
>>126075641

So is it worth to spend real money for the ingame gold currency to get the expensive battlemechs

Or are there cheaper alternatives?
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>>126075704
Wait... this isn't bait, or...?
R u tryin to trick me again?
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>>126075704
>spending money on MWO

Just walk away.
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>>126075812
Walk to where?
I cannot find any alternatives than the previous mechwarrior games or mechcommander

>>126075756
No please answer
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>>126075992
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>>126073587

They'll never stop talking about me. I'll be relevant until MWO goes under.

It would have been nice to be associated with my teachings on 5th edition space marines, my work with GW, my political activism, or anything, really, but those things just weren't as interesting or good as my involvement with the most cynical F2P game ever.
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>>126075992
>I cannot find any alternatives than the previous mechwarrior games or mechcommander

The entire idea behind MWO is to license and sell back your nostalgia to you for $20-60 per Mech for pixels.

Do you remember a time where you could just buy a MechWarrior game and it came with ALL the Mechs unlocked already? $60 is never going to get you ALL the MECHS.
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>>126076170
>Do you remember a time where you could just buy a MechWarrior game and it came with ALL the Mechs unlocked already?

No, because no such time ever existed.
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>>126073684
>>126073346

CW is so fucking shit, I don't understand why they don't kill it already and start over from scratch.
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Hey what the fuck, a Dire Wolf's standard speed according to the technical loadout and sarna is 54 kph.

Why is it 48.6kph, and gets to only 52.2kph with speed tweak?

What, would a Dire Wolf moving 59,4kph be "OP" ?
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>>126076615
Isn't the next Beta Phase another wipe?
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>>126076660
Because you can oneshot mechs with certain weapon loadouts
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>tfw we'll never ever see a 6man FFA, 2v2v2v2,3v3v3,4v4 solaris in mwo
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>>126076660
You rounded up in table top and got an extra hex of movement.
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>>126076729
And now they're so slow that you not only get left behind by your team, but lights and MEDIUMS can literally run circles around you, and you can't turn fast enough.

Not to mention IS outranging all the weapons it can sport with those ridiculous range quirks of its, so it gets decimated before it can reach any form of cover, and structure quirks enable opposing mediums, heavies and assaults to not get instagibbed by a dire wolf alpha strike.
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>>126077026
>And NOW they're so slow
Like how most IS assaults always have been

>outranging
>ridiculous
>enable opposing
>get instagibbed

Mad Clammer confirmed
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>>126076660
2kph barely matters tbqh

It's a result of how they defined the engines though, anyways. You'll notice no mech will run the same speed as a TT variant. It will run slower without speedtweak, and faster with it, until you get to the assaults.
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How about buying premium time instead of battlemechs?
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>>126077341
No IS assault runs slower than a Dire Wolf. They never have. If they do, it's because they were built by a retard.

IS assaults tend to hit 60kph at the absolute minimum. Only the King Crab is comparable, but it runs faster than a Dire Wolf the majority of the time too since 325 is the more popular engine choice.

Not that guy or even saying anything about this discussion, just, nah, Dire Wolf is the slowest and most sluggish mech in the game and has been since it released and is unlikely to ever not be.
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>>126077987
>No IS assault runs slower than a Dire Wolf

That's completely meaningless and you know it. If two slow assaults can see and shoot each other, neither one of them is capable of running away from the other one.
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>>126075704
No, that is an inefficient way to spend money.

Wait for a sale on a bundle or pack of mechs you like. Or better yet, wait until the kind of mech you like has a hero version, buy it, and use the cbill bonus on it to fund the purchase of other variants.
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>>126040185
>>126043516

I always thought trebuchets are just fragile boring lrm boats. How do you even play them. I'm a pretty new scrub if it isn't appearant enough.
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>>126078171
>implying speed is only important for what happens when two mechs see each other

Getting to positions faster is the most important
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>>126078298
This.

If your assault, no matter how fucking ludicrously armed, can't get to a firing position when a fight breaks out, you're worthless.

Worst case scenario, you either get picked off by one or two flanking lights because "lol can't turn" or your team gets wiped out and you're left alone against overwhelming numbers.
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This sounds like an issue that could be easily resolved by getting on coms and saying "hey, wait for me"...
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>>126079230
Never happens even if you use coms, even if you're WITH KONG.
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>>126079546
Kong Assault Mech: Guys I'm being left behind
Everyone else in Kong: SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT A FASTER MECH FUCKBOY :^)

100% accurate
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>>126079546
>>126079230

If you're slower than 60~, no one's gonna wait around for you.
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>>126078297
The 5J? has great laser bonuses

There's some pretty decent variety in them
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hello?
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Is it worth getting into MWO? I'd like to play some mecha games, there's no Armored Core on PC and Hawken is pretty much dead.
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>>126082504
It's okay. It's not very similar to either of those games though.
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>>126082504

No.
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>>126082504
Do you have any attachment to the Battletech IP?
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>>126082672
Well, I liked MW4 Mercs a whole lot, spent quite some time in the Arena with a Fafnir and a Vulture
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>>126082504
>Is it worth getting into MWO?

No.
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>>126082740
As long as you understand some MW fundamentals and enjoyed MW games, sure, definitely give it a shot.
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>>126082607
Vass pls, even you had fun recently.
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>>126082884
What I remember from MW4 is that it's more of a simulator than just a run and gun CoD with mechs.
Oh yeah, can I still flush coolants from a tank in MWO and turn off active sensors to turn invisible in radar?
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>>126083232
coolant flushes are single use modules
no radar system like MW4
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>>126083345
Aight. Is there a point to keep playing light mechs once you have better access to heavier shit or is it just a brawl of assaults and heavies in later games?

I enjoyed being a scout/walking electronic warfare nightmare in earlier games, leaving the heavy lifting to others.
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>>126083232
You can use ecm to turn invisible in radar.
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>>126082504
No, all that remains in MWO are bitter vets that keep playing because they've invested too much time and money in it to just stop. Which would make them feel like they wasted the last couple of years of their life on nothing.
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>>126084032
You sound like one of those bitter vets
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>>126083613
You really should start with mediums and heavies, and then once you know how to play you can move to lights and assaults.
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>>126084675
Aight, I bought my very first mech, a twin-Gauss Vulture
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>>126084801
Well memed

Now tell us what you really bought
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>>126084847
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>try out some Hawken again after not playing it for over a year
>it's still fun as hell
A shame it died
Literally Tribes 2.0
Where did it go wrong?
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>>126085327
EU was still alive and well today when I checked
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>>126085445
Most games are filled with new players that has no idea how anything works.
It's either a pubstomp or I get stomped because my team is nowhere to be seen.
Having 200-300 players at prime is pretty low too.
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>>126085217
lower your head armor to 8, and your legs to 35, and your back armor to 10 in all places, and then increase your center and side torsos to max
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>>126086016
Oh right, the Vulture had a pretty hard to hit cockpit.
I remember in MW4 the rule was to lower all rear and cockpit armour to almost minimum and bump up the torso.
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>2 minutes into the CW Counter Attack match
>this dude runs out of bounds and dies, then disconnects forever
>we win anyway

goddamn i hate this game mode
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>>126086310
You can report people in game. You should actually do that when that shit happens.
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Arctic Cheetah or Spider?
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>>126087079
Cheater all the way, spider isn't viable anymore.
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>>126087079
You should get your head checked for even considering buying a Spider over that.
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>>126087079

Kakos "Kong Lord" Kakos tells you to get good.
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>>126054282
>isn't known for anything

Not true, didn't they do the multiplayer for Duke Nukem Forever?
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>>126088746
Who's that?
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I'm new to Mechwarrior and just got myself an Enforcer for my first medium mech.

I'm not very good.

Please help me with my loadout?
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>>126085217
Put your ammo bins somewhere safer and centered so you don't lose half your ammo when one side goes, or worse, lose all remaining ammo halfway into a match.

Ammo consumption order:
HD -> CT -> RT -> LT -> LA -> RA -> LL -> RL
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>>126092840
Remove all weapons
Put 2 uac5's on
Buy double heatsinks
Switch to normal armor and get endo
Remove jump jets
Max armor except for the shield arm with no ac's
Get the biggest XL you can fit
Enforce sharia law
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>>126092840
Unless you want to run the better laserboat build, do this.
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>>126092840
Double heat sinks are a requirement on every mech.
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>>126092840
What I personally run on an ENF-4R.

The ultra autocannon 5 has the same damage capacity as an autocannon 10, but longer range and weighs 3 tons less. Clicking it twice during a single reload, then waiting for it to finish cooling down, and you get the same effect as an AC10 with but the feeling of more DAKKA.

2x ER Large lasers because of the insane quirks on it. 20% range on an er large lets you outrange clan er large lasers. 2x medium lasers as backup for the UAC/5 in close quarters.

3x jump jets to get you over obstacles or into sniping positions to use those ER large lasers.

XL engine because, well, you're a medium. You're fast, or you're dead. You aren't meant to tank shots like a heavy or an assault.
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>>126092840
You say you're a new player so I'm going to assume you don't have tons of money. Here is a build that is admittedly not great, but better than what you have and does not require you to buy an expensive XL engine.
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=249&l=1dfdec4fac6da1a9d7abfedf8dad9018d79ad1a2

If you really like the Enforcer line of mechs and want to buy more of them, think of investing in an XL255 to swap between them.

If you like inexpensive medium mechs with a lot of kick though, you'd be better off with Blackjacks.
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>>126093946
Thanks.

I'll check out blackjacks some time
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When will we get a 50% mechbay sale?
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>>126093747
>single UAC5
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>>126096113
That comes up pretty regularly, maybe every 3 months or so.
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>>126096113
Hopefully Christmas. I'm not spending a single MC until they go on sale and I can grab a lifetime's worth of bays.
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>>126096113
We should hear about the next event today, or tomorrow.
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>>126093747
Never put an engine smaller than 250 (standard) or 255 (XL since 250 and 255 weigh the same because they have 10 trudubs. Going one ton lighter for a smaller engine to place in the 10th heatsink actually hurts you since the heatsinks outside of engines don't perform as well, and they take up more crit spaces.
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>>126072853
Lateposting cuckabec, but I appreciate the idea for 2x AC5 with 2x PPC. I actually never considered using my 300 XL to mount two AC5s, seems like a perfect match for my modules. Now the only question is whether to drop a medium laser for another heat sink or to keep both of them for cheeky brawlers.
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Did we get a minor Marauder texture update? I don't remember that chin camera being permanently being painted all-white.
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>>126098740
Scratch that, 4 tons of AC5 ammo is more than enough for standard matches. I can drop that instead.

Actually feels kind of fantastic when enemies are too dumb to target my sides.
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hello?
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good night kalos
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>>126101547
Yes, hello. This is GERG general, where everyone talks about mwo and nothing else. How can we meme you today?
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Apparently the archer will have missile doors that aren't part of the st hitbox. About time they did something smart.
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>>126104174
1 smart thing and 20 dumb things doesn't really make a difference.
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threadly reminder to die of brain tumor vasshole
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>>126104174
It's weird that they've really turned things around the last 6 months. I guess they realized they can't put off working on the game anymore.
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>>126106330
>vasshole
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>>126098740
Wouldn't take any MLs

I did 2AC5/2PPC with something like a 325XL or so I think

For maximum meta make sure the PPCs are on your right arm, not split between them even if I don't run my marauders this way it is objectively factually superior
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What are the best 2015 MWO memes?
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>>126107909
nice post kakos kaelus kossi "the kong with the biggest dong" kolos
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>>126104174
Maybe one day we'll actually get full special components for all those extra bits on mechs

TBR with LRMs not losing an ST instantly when?
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Haven't played MWO since open beta, thinking of jumping back into it now.

I remember there being a lot of controversy over balancing issues with clan mechs and stuff maybe like a year ago. Has that been resolved yet?

Also I'm reading stuff like
>Someone who pays money will always be better than you
>Nothing in MWO is worth your money

So my best chance at enjoying this game not buying thing and accepting that I'll be at a disadvantage?
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>People actually still supporting the mandatory 10 heatsinks rule on HPG

Fucking TT grognards I swear to god
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>>125931047
>Russ' twitter just now
>PGI actually made the changes to the Warhammer cockpit and arms

Well, what do you know.

Warhammer might be an actually interesting mech.
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>>126107909
You are not A-team
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>>126109073
Someone paying money will be better than you for a short while because they don't have to grind the basic mech and simply focus their cbill earnings on kitting it out with the most efficient build possible.

But that's still like, skipping only a few days of grind, and it becomes a moot point after your 4th mech.
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>>126109073
Some of the clans mech used to be OP
Now there are some good clan mechs and bad clan mechs, but also good IS mechs and bad IS mechs

Spending money on the game doesn't help you win at all but it does let you bypass some of the grind or get things way earlier

Most things are overpriced too
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>>126109073
Honestly it's pretty inarguable that this game has the best balance between Clans and IS any MW game has ever seen

Longer laser duration, multiple shot ACs, streaming LRMs, the way they locked Omnimechs...

None of the other games made anywhere near this good an attempt to balance clan tech, it was always straight better
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https://mwomercs.com/tournaments

>cent AH grand prize
piggy pls
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>>126111334
>>126111368

That dosen't seem so bad. I figure I can skip some of the grind since I unlocked a few mechs during the beta.

Why were there some many 'no' responses to the guy who wanted to know if this game was worth getting into?
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>>126111601
>TBR for Halloween
>Cent-AH for Christmas

what
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>>126111601
WHERE'S MY 3050 BANNER PGI

WHERE
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>>126107629
>assymetrical
No
My arms get blown off one at a time all the time
Why would I even want to gimp myself like that
Cuckabec pls
I can't give up my lasers or my Mad just isn't a Mad
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>>126112224
>gimp yourself

learn to corner peek scrublord :^)
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>>126111795
They also added a tutorial that you should do because it gives you a bunch of money.
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>>126111795
That /gerg/'s method of resuscitating a terminally lethargic thread. Pay no mind to the usual "is MWO P2W?" exchanges.
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>>126112364
My skills were specced into low slung side shielding metaking. :^(
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> centurion AH variant reward
> more halloween random bullshit
> cant even get mech bays from tjis shitshow

Oh god damnit. What a waste of everyones time.
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>>126114406
>can't get mechbays

Shit, I just noticed that. Wow. I mean most people never even got one anyways but fuck, that's some bullshit. Gotta get that steam audience to buy MC I guess.
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>>126111601
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>>126114406
>>126114734
The description at the top says you can get mechbays. Might be a clerical error.
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>>126078290
pretty sure pgi stated they wont be doing anymore mech sales, just cosmetics
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>>126115829
Maybe the free Mech Bay is the free one you get with the Centurion?
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>>126116479
Maybe everyone gets a free Centurion.

The AH is one that I want to own.
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>>126111795
>During the beta

You mean cbt? Because there was a wipe, before beta release.
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>>126101901
Okay GERG general, your number is seven.
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I just realized they aren't giving away mechbays anymore in the grab bag events.
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>>126120276

I'm pretty sure it was some sort of open beta. I remember being hyped about this game back before it was released.

I remember spending $20 on it so I doubt it was before any wipes. Could be my memory is faulty, maybe I did play it upon release.
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Is the Battletech HBS forums broken for anyone else? The sign in page is blank.
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>>126130824
Seems like the site works fine through my phone and I could post what I wanted, but its broke on Firefox and IE.
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So I haven't played this in a fuck long number of months but I need robots. Got a few questions. Is the cbill grind still abysmal? Is the mech xp/mastery still bullshit where you need 3 variants to get double basic skills? I currently have mastered Shaqs and Jagers, what IS mechs are not total dogshit?
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>>126134203
C-bill grind is better now, but you will still be grinding hard if you don't have premium time or a bonusmoney paidmech. You still need 3 variants to unlock elite skills and the useless Pinpoint skill is still there. Most IS mechs have quirks that bring them up to a usable level, browse through the improved store interface and pick whatever you like. The particularly bad mechs should be very obvious to you if fiddling around in the preview mechlab cannot produce a good build. Seeing as you have a solid medium and heavy, you might want to look into a new light to get you started again, but be aware that they recently increased the CW weight limit for the IS to 265 tons.

You also need to calm down, son.
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>>126134203
Dual guass King Crab is top meta IMO.
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>>126134981
>cbill grind better at all
yay
>skills still dumb
figures
>Shaq and Jag not irrelevant
Double yay, good to know IS mechs are still usable
>calm down
fuck that noise. Thanks for the run down.

Are SRMS still disappearing into the void if you fire too many?

>>126136405
I was going to grab a King Crab for fat Jager fun, even if a Banshee would probably be better for ridge humping.
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>>126136791
>SRMs still disappearing?

Since the velocity increase I've only noticed it happen once. That said, I'm not even sure it did happen that time I'm thinking of. It's kind of tough to tell with all these IS mechs shitting out internal HP and being cherry red forever no matter how much you shoot them.
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>>126137168
I guess the real questions I should have asked is if the netcode is still being delivered by drunken carrier pigeons and how many mechs still have void shields.
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>>126137506
Netcode is still far from perfect, but it's noticeably better than it once was.
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>>126137506
I guess the netcode's better. Only the humanoid lights are of any bother, but that's how it's been for quite a while, I don't know what timeframe we're comparing to.

If you're worried about Storm Crows they're not getting away with anything they used to.
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>>126137506
I'm from aus and get like 250 ping to the Oceana servers and the game is actually fine. If I can play on 250, you can play on <150 just fine.

I will note that guass and A/Cs are a little more difficult than laservomit though. That said, I still have had heavy success with guass so evidently it's not that bad.
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>>126138210
>>126138613
>>126138896
Thanks gents. Yea I was referring mainly to the Storm Crow but also when lights like the Firestarter just shit on everything for no good reason.
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>>126137168
In a recent match, the hitbox of an enemy Marauder got borked and I was unable to hit one of his legs for many, many shots. I'm pretty sure that I didn't hit his bum leg by accident and pretty sure I read the paper doll correctly, so no idea what happened there. No hitmarkers at all. Ghost legs
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What can you tell me about my play style based on these stats?
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>>126140480
Brawler
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>>126140480
T R E N C H W A R F A R E 3 0 5 2
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>>126141076
Yup. Top two mechs are Jenner D and Atlas S.
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>round a corner in my fast heavy, since I'm the pocket assault
>1,2,4,5,7,9 enemy mechs
Deathballs are cancer.
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>>126141271
>round a corner
>run face first into a fresh Atlas
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>>126142138
>ultra AC/20 jams at the worst moment.
>can't back up due to some pubby humping your back
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>>126141271
rule #1, let the pubbie go first
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>>126142916
I was with a lance of friends, but my mech is the only not slow one.
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>>126142916
>follow a lancemateover a crest
>literally the entire enemy teamis on the other side looking at us

it's okay... i didn't want to do more than 10 damage anyway
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How viable could this be?

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=368&l=060b76611e85ce11e2dbead819b84595b8a986a7
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>>126147278
If you're going to do that you may as well put one in each hunch so you don't get bullshit out of most of your firepower.
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>>126147278
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=368&l=25c3ad3449bed76271620843ed3b2e3de52c09b1
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>everybody gets stuck on map load and has to reboot and manually reconnect

that was interesting
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Just played a match where every single player failed to load in and had to restart MWO.
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>>126150951
>>126151023
Same match? Or was it a wider phenomenon?
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>>126151023

I'm in that match

Did you end up trying to farm people dc'd?
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>>126151178
Yeah. I wanted that 8 kills title.
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>>126151512
That's what I wanted to do but I saw you haul ass to their spawn after their shadowcat ate shit, so I just ended up fighting the people who manage to reconnect.
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>>126151023
I played with you earlier, was nice having someone competent to play with in solo queue.
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>>126152159
I hope it wasn't during one of those games I kept crashing out in.
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>>126085327
not dead just waiting
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>>126152239
Only one, I think it was a game I got 6 kills in.
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>>126152563
Nice.
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>>126115829
Might be, but neither the prize listing nor the accumulated rewards display has the mech bays listed or the icon displayed.

2 for 3, I'd say they fucked up and used the Halloween trick or treat event description as a simple copy-paste and only bothered to change "halloween" to "holiday" or "trick or treat" to "stocking stuffer."
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This trial dakka crab is love, wow.
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>>126152473
>less than 300 people on prime time
>not dead

You need to go back to reddit and circlejerk with those fucks and keep reassuring each other it's not dead.
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>>126155441
>same amount of players as Evolve during peak hours
>actually a hundred or so players more

I guess Evolve isn't dead either!

Oh, wait...
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Is the computer worth it? Been steady as hell with this build, but can't tell if the computer is worth it... thoughts on it? Is it just better to use targetingI version? Because you can put more weapons/sinks on it. http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=368&l=eae41cd4ccdb74d329fd7bb0bd03f4d307d2b237 The engine is perfect for a bodyguard playstyle (Stays with the heavies and Assaults)... Should call it "The Manlette" When the armor falls I feel this mech starts to shine, but wonder if the max computer is wasted tonnage.
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>>126159354
What the fuck?
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Just started playing MWO tonight.

I understand the basics of combat and have been doing well enough in my matches today.

Some things I don't understand:

-Upon logging in for the first time, I was awarded one day of premium. I understand this is just a sales tactic to "let you see what you are missing" but it's not made apparent what exactly I am gaining by being a "Premium Player."

Secondly, I was given some mechs on trial. I seem to like the light mechs better. Started using the Cheetah a lot. But when I went to buy it in the store there's 4 different variants and I'm not autistic enough to compare the spreadsheets they give me. Is there a rule of thumb? I see there is an A, B, C and PRIME variant.
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>>126159937
The Prime variant is the one they're letting you test drive right now.

I'm pretty sure "premium time" just nets you extra money and experience.
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>>126159681
>5
I'm not usually up this late, and not so loaded up on meds, I guess the question is... do you think the Targeting Computer VII is worth it vs the Targeting Computer I
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>>126160076
No. There' no benefit to target computers above II.
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>>126160031
Does it really matter which variant I buy? Aren't I really just buying access to the chassis which I can customize as I see fit?

Are there weapon to weight restrictions (i.e. Can't put a heavy laser on a light mech)?
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>>126160365
I don't know much about Clan mechs because I don't own any, but I know that IS mechs require you to buy separate chassis. They each have different hardpoints. The only restrictions are your total tonnage and crit slots.
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>>126159937
>-Upon logging in for the first time, I was awarded one day of premium. I understand this is just a sales tactic to "let you see what you are missing" but it's not made apparent what exactly I am gaining by being a "Premium Player."

There's an event going on right now for a little while longer, and another event starting up soon as this one ends, you should really take advantage of both as a free player, details here:
https://mwomercs.com/profile/stats?type=challenges

http://mwomercs.com/tournaments?t=201512stocking

As for the Arctic Cheetah, it along with the Jenner IIC are the prime lights in the game right now.
There are no differences between the variants other than placement of hard-points for these specific mechs, and Clan omni-mechs (which differ from BattleMechs) have swap-able omni pods. Swap-able omni-pods allow you a tiny bit more customization that standard battlemechs, effectively you could by the PRIME and then buy all the B omni pods and make a build identical to one you could have built if you'd have bought the D variant in the first place.
Either way, you'll still need to buy three Arctic Cheetahs to max out their skill trees anyway.

I'd recommend looking into more detailed explinations on BattleMechs, Clan Omni-Mechs, and Clan BattleMechs as well as you continue playing.
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>>126160694
>https://mwomercs.com/profile/stats?type=challenges

I'll check this out.

>>126160527


Thanks for the tips.
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>>126152473
>game still looks fun
just goes to show that a lot of potential means nothing if there's no direction
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>>126160076
http://mwo.gamepedia.com/Targeting_Computer

Assuming that the information isn't out of date, that is. There are numerous pages on the wiki that are totally out of date.

The most immediately felt bonus of the computer is the increased speed of getting the target details and the somewhat increased chance at making components explode. The bigger computers don't make nearly as much of a difference and you may find that the incremental bonuses aren't enough to matter for you. Only take those if your build somehow has more tonnage than it has space for heatsinks (which is what you should be buying instead).
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>>126148391
>he doesnt know one sided builds are made for torsotwisting

shitters man, shitters everywhere.
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>>126162007
>torso twisting with no quirks and long-lasting clam lasers
Not going to work on anyone who isn't retarded.
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Is this completely retarded? It feels too right.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=378&l=44373a6e8b35cd7f86d8fc69016a3086bbd11a82
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>>126159354
>mediums mixed with larges instead of large pulses
>7 ton computer

L M A O
M
A
O

everyone, meet the steam playerbase.
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>>126162270
Very constructive. Good advice.
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>>126162265
yes it is as a matter of fact, retarded.
considering CLPLs burn for 1.12 seconds and you cant fire more than 2 without blowing yourself up you have to fire 2 and then 2 which leaves you completely open for 2.24 seconds in a tall and broad as fuck mech that is the easiest shit to CT core among every assault.
you also dont have CT or ST structure/armor quirks of any kind like IS assaults have.
the build is also not one sided so you cant effectively torsotwist without losing one side at some point.
personally i think the placement of the HIghlander IIC hairdpoints is absolutely terrible compared to the IS Highlander that can have ballistic + 3x energy hardpoints on the same side
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>>126162265
It's a manbot version of the Warhawk. Personally I'd trust my hawk more than that simply because it can have one lower arm actuator and the lasers can all go in the arms; those things are near indestructible anyway.
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>>126162784
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=378&l=8c50515ce79df4bccf62847eaae9dbbd44ceb17c

How about now?
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>>126162836
Again, its another Warhawk build. If you want to use 4x biggun, then use 2x ERPPC and 2x LPL to avoid ghost heat problems entirely. Just be very, very careful with your heat because it is too easy to jump from "doing ok" to "not moving".
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>>126162161
>1.12 seconds to unload a full 40 damage pinpoint alpha
>long lasting clam lasers

back to the tier 5 ghetto you go.
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>>126162967
Hmm... alright.
If you were to build this Highlander, how would you do?
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>>126162265
It's not retarded, except you should swap a heatsink and the probe for a JJ. Then you'll have protons build for it.

>>126162784
Clan highlanders are shit, but that is the best build of the best variant.

>>126162967
This is retarded.
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>>126163280
I don't like JJ's tho ;-;

What about these three?
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=377&l=ccc53d4a101e7110cc986f9330454113e8e830ec

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=379&l=5285677fc708c5c1fd9fa4bf1c525da2d234a5f6

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=380&l=d603103188c0c7e9ed0e854c3cd425eff53a8601

Clam Highlander feels like a nightmare to build.
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>>126162836
if you insist in doing a 4 CLPL buy a fucking warhawk

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=192&l=8ec987c1c96250dd38128a38742665aa89fbfd8d

protect your nose by tanking with the right arm as much as possible since the C arm has +21 bonus structure
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>>126163493
I don't insist on it, but I have the bloody thing now and I'm trying to find a viable build for it that doesn't rely on filling up extra tonnage with fucking LRMs. Fuck. I get that the Warcuck is better at Clan LPL, I get it. That's not the damn point.
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>>126163456
first one adusted is the only semi meta compliant one

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=377&l=3ed5e9ddc7b2bbb00937b2fe715974ca7f31fd63

the rest is ghetto garbage
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>>126163725
>calling my dual CUAC/10 ghetto garbage
Why I oughta'...
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>>126163280
>This is retarded.
>can't aim shitter detected
Wubhawk is ok but boring and slightly reliant on people being oblivious.

>>126163493
Most of them have 21 HP in total. The left C arm has the superior 14 armor / 7 structure.

---

If you're ever going to use buy a Hawk and use PPCs AND heat seems to be more of a problem for you than the free yaw distance of the arms, consider taking the Prime's right arm since it has the heat gen quirk. Otherwise the C arm is better for the arm yaw.
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>>126163863
you can do 2 CERML 2 CUAC10 in a mad cat and be much more mobile and good at flanking
you dont need a 90 ton slow nigger to make that build
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>>126162967
why are you trying to trick him
erppcs are shit
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>>126163456
if you really want to go full brawler this is a much more viable idea

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=379&l=9ee3d094cf8490283f53cb32f17e4f19650e4952

its basically an 90 ton Atlas S build
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>>126162270
Why not tell me why you only use a TC II or I vs VII? I'm asking why its not worth having the VII when those crits are noticable (3% vs 7%). Its ERLL not pulse because 4tons lighter and more range (getting even more out of the VII computer). This mech snipes and supports by the side of heavies and assaults. Overheating is a challenge with this build as well. So a real answer to why you guys think its overkill? This video shows you the difference in time to take out parts comparing the I, II, and VII with pulse lasers and PPC's https://youtu.be/3EET05rjqWU

Btw pic related just now with this 7ton computer, two ERLL's build. I pull my weight. Fuck me for trying to be one with the community and have fun with others.
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>>126164453
>800 dmg in that build

confirmed tier 5 ghetto garbage
have fun stomping shitters with your meme builds as long as it lasts
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My skill just went up on a loss. Didn't know that could happen.
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>>126165051
It means you did exceptionally well in comparison to everyone else. Did you do get a high match score despite losing? PSR still goes up instead of staying equal, or going down.
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>>126164749
I have not done anything to shame you, sorry that a build has offended you. Anyways to anyone else that might want to answer this, I feel its a legitimate question to go a little further into. Should I just go for the highest alpha? This is what I was running and its very steady build as well. http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=368&l=b1e473b4d08b76942446bd411b19a91cc3b4ab2b.

I hope this picture makes you smile on the inside, you need it.
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>>126165161
Yeah I did around 900 damage in the trial Cheetah while the rest of my team was off teamkilling each other and overheating.
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>>126165847
What is this even...? Clan active probe is useless to you, and Targ.Comp.II is a bit over-kill for all these med pulses.
Not only that you have really uneven armor values, and your CT is a little light. You also have unused crit slots that can hold FF and endo steel.
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=368&l=356859be0b0a266d3bec959761a354e5d4c5a5dd
you can even have one more heat sink and an arm to lose.

I run this: http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=368&l=9f45fa9bfa1f91d1e33567f97410a162adc68f6c
But purely for fun, and I don't recommend it to anyone.
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>>126159354
>>126164453
The crit is barely noticeable, TC VII is only realy good to boost ERLL range when you absolutely want to snipe on CW maps against IS (which will still outrange and outdmg you probably with their own ERLL)

You also dont realy need all that range for pug drops, you could have probably done alot more by packing something like this http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=368&l=d33acc856ba48d12f1e587e68a81ebaa8f02c73f
And using jumpjets to get a good terrain advantage

Problem is TC VII is not realy ton effective except "maybe" for long range sniping, and even then 7 DHS look just as good

Btw in your build you forgot ferro, it would give you 1 extra ton to use
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>>126140480
You suck/10
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>>126165847
always max your armor on CT and side torso, for pug drops try to have a bit more range, brawling is fun but specialy after the latest "rework" the avarage engagement distance has further shortened engagements, meaning that if you learn to engage from between 400-600 meters with the correct weapons you will have the advantage in all fights and still retaining max damage
Also never use BAP except when you have Streaks or Lrms (both are crap, learn to srm)
Either use TC I or VII, never use the others, not even for ton filling

If you cant arm tank on a mech and you are not using those arms for weapons or equipment, always drop their armor to 1 and use that free tonnage to up your engine or whatever else you need.
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>>126167121
edgy/10
Looks like a positive win rate to me.
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>>126167231
>losing on most of the common maps
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>>126167306
>being mongorian
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>>126167130
>>126166895
>>126166236

This is awesome, you guys just opened my eyes. So with all this in the bag one last question. When making a mech I want to make sure every slot is used up somehow? There was something said about unused crit-slots in my build. Thank you for going into something that the vets know, all I can give in return is a wallpaper. Gonna try these ideas the fuck out.
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>>126167306
What's yours look like?
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>>126167712
>When making a mech I want to make sure every slot is used up somehow?

Not always. Sometimes you just want to focus on maxing out your tonnage while being mindful of what weapons and equipment you'll need for what role you're filling.
That said however, you do want to optimize your use of crit space too. Like how you were recommended to put on both endo steel and ferro fiberous armor because you had the space for it, and equipping them allowed you better use of your mechs tonnage for armor and heat management. It won't always end up perfect to where you can equip endo and FF, in that event you always pick Endo over FF.
Also be mindful of crit-padding, basically adding fluff to your mech to fill up crit slots (if you have left over tonnage and slots) with things like heat sinks and inert ammunition (Gauss ammo if you're packing a Gauss Rifle, all other ammo types explode and cause internal damage) so that they are destroyed first instead of more critical internal components.
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>>126167712
Ferro Fibrous and EndoSteel use free slots, for Inner Sphere it's 14 slots each, for clan mechs like the IIC it's 7

You do not need to have all slots filled but you do want to maximize your available tonnage
more tonnage -> better engine/more equipment

On clan mechs it's not too much of a problem but on InnerSphere mechs 1 DHS is 3 slots, while endo is 14 and sometimes having a combination of XL and endo makes it so you have too much tonnage available and no slots to fill at all
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>>126167718
Note that I have ten times more played on every map
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Okay, the Dire Wolf seriously needs a mobility buff.

How the fuck is it balanced when a HEAVY can run fast enough to get fucking behind it, and stay behind it?!
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>>126171960
epic
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>Marauder shoulder cannon is tiny

Why the fuck cant I have a big fuck you AC/20 on it? Why are the gun barrels so small in this game?
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>>126174260
Would you rather have a giant "fuck my shit up" extended hit-box gun barrel?

The barrels for the Marauder aren't even that bad, I actually like them. Design for the larger ones is stupid though. Dennis put in vents at the end, but they're not transparent and look stupid as fuck.
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Is anyone in Kong going to drop for the Christmas event once it starts later today?
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>>126174260
AC10 and AC20 on marauder are fucking massive and actualy look how they are supposed to
Go look the Centurion and his now impaired right arm, thats fucked up
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>>126175761
I'll be.
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>>126175761
Not today maybe later this week
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Hello?
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quick play in this game

oh, the humanity...
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>>126178681
I've been consistently getting particularly stupid players on my team today.
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If PGI added all their grab deals (excluding boosters like premium time and MC, only 'Mech packs) to Steam the "Add all DLC to Cart" option would set you back $1,830.96.

I'm also very disappointed that they took down the Gold Khan packs. Maybe one day I really did want a Golden KitFox, now it'll never be...
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>>126178931
Like, we lose games in really stupid ways. Then the death chat is littered with omg i did 300-400 damage! Holy shit, why...
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I have 3000 golden shekels. What is the most efficient way to use them /gerg/?
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>>126178931
I've been experiencing the same thing. Just a huge influx of dumb lately.
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>>126179889
>>126180209
Steam release was a success.

>>126180031
Wait until Christmas, see if they put mechbays on sale.
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>>126180209
>more than half my team last 3 games does less than 50 damage

just fuck my shit up
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>>126180031
Mech-bays, if you need them. Otherwise, nothing for right now. As another anon said, wait and see if any Hero's go on sale or something.
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>>126180031
Getting a rocksolid hero during a sale will be the most efficient.
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>>126181402
>>126181953
I'm pretty sure i read pgi isn't doing anymore sales on mechs. I'm looking for it now to screencap it.
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>>126182395
>no more sales on mechs
That's the dumbest business move in the world. You NEED sales now and again.
Granted, I wouldn't put it past PGI, but still...
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>>126182395
>trolling this badly
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>>126162330
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The little winch on the Marauder's chin is a nice touch. I wish there was a raiding game mode where the objective is to cart of enemy crates back to a base or dropship.
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>>126183805
Wish what you want. People would stull just focus on kills instead of objective.
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>>126184259
Man I remember when all the pubbies focused objectives over killing. I mean there used to be rushes to base cap and get shit for dosh :^)
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>>126183212
wasn't trying to i just remembered wrong, i was thinking of some faggots forum post.
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>>126184992
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>>126184259
What if kills and damage in that game mode are not recorded? What if it only counted how big and how many crates you managed to cart off into the sunset?

48 mechs, 48 enemies, 480 crates. Can an organized team grab them all?
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4 lrm15s on a TW

Urge to kill, rising.
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>rarely get under 500 damage per game
>quick play stocking points are for 150 damage per game
>know im gonna get loads of crappy xmas stocking stuffers
>mfw there are actually people who are gonna struggle to get points on the event

Thanks steam players, i wouldn't be able to if it wasn't for you.
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>>126190128
>know im gonna get loads of crappy xmas stocking stuffers

I've already completed 5 games that qualify, and so far... nothing but "HURR DURR PRIORITY AIR STRIEKS DURRR HURRR."

What a fucking waste of time. The least PGI could do is not be a bunch of muslim praising cuckolds and give us straight up MC.
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>those global prize totals an hour into the event

there is no fucking way in hell that much shit has been given out.
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Event starts, teams all blow.
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>>126190331
10am pacific standard time
(that's california time, family)
fucking retard it says it RIGHT ON THE FUCKING SITE
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>>126191048
...what?
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>>126191185
open up wide for some spoon feeding
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>>126191369
What the fuck are you going on about, and how the hell does that relate to the post you linked to at all?
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>>126191549
When you re-read it and it finally comes to you, you're going to feel real fucking stupid.
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>>126191858
I think you're the one that's gonna feel real fucking stupid after you re-read it.
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>>126192208
No, i think you're gonna be the one that's gonna feel real fucking stupid after you re-read it.
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>>126192254
>>126191858
>>126191369
>>126191048

Shitpostmas already? Man time flies.
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>>126192528
>english obviously not first language
>being this assblasted
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Go from 500-600 damage games with a few kills and plenty of assists to

200-300 damage games with 0 kills and few assists because the whole team breaks up or tries to stand behind one another cause

MUH MATCH SCORE GUYS
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>>126193113
It's not even bait at this point.
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>>126192528
Hey man it's always a good time to shitpost. It's like you're new to kong/gerg or something
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>>126193195
Events bring out the shittiest of shitters. It's amazing.
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>>126193273
Don't get me wrong it's not like I'm against shitposting or anything, I'd just like a little effort put into it is all.
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Alright cunts, Australia here.

Where's the free shit?
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>>126193758
>kong
>effort
There is a reason we play MWO for its minimal viable product
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>>126174460
>>>126166895
>>>126166236
>This is awesome, you guys just opened my eyes. So with all this in the bag one last question. When making a mech I want to make sure every slot is used up somehow? There was something said about unused crit-slots in my build. Thank you for going into something that the vets know, all I can give in return is a wallpaper. Gonna tr

Dennis.
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>>126196109
Benis
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LaserAngel connected.
LaserAngel disconnected.
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>>126197539
Best mumble meme
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>>126199491
>mumble
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>>126199825
>discord
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>>126201093
>curse voice
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>>126201545
>skype
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>>126201664
>vent
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>>126201742
>C3
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>>126201816
>teamspeak
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>>126201961
>xfire
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>razer comms
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We get the idea.
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>>126202278
>steam voice
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>google hangouts
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>Not using voicecomms in a game that gives people who use voicecomms a huge fucking advantage
>Pubfags yell at people to shut up when they report positions of enemies they've spotted and movement
>Proceed to lose because people are now afraid of comms
>"NOOBS YOU DONT EVEN KNOW HOW TO PLAY"

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS WRONG YOU ASTROSHITTERS.
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wew lads
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>>126203317
Go fucking figure its a fag in the trial atlas screaming at people to shut the fuck up while playing shitty metal in the background
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>>126203632
i understand that reference
EPIC
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is this real life?

this is so ass...
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>badders have legit quirks
>can actually bully other mechs now

This pleases me greatly.
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Want event rewards

Don't want to deal with shitters trying to hide the whole match and deal damage and steal kills.

What a conundrum.
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>>126203939
wtf were you expecting? Battlemechs? Blow jobs?
This is no different from any other grab bag event. If you unlock all of them it'll add up to something at least pretty decent.
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>>126203991
buy an archer and get 25 free :^)
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>>126203065
>raidcall

>>126203632
>not spamming memes and rolling bad 12-0
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>>126197539
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>>126204185
yes and maybe
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>>126204804
what are you implying with this screencap?
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Thinking of getting an Ebon Jaguar for a laser build. What's the word on them?
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>>126208378
Amazing for lasers. Just don't do a shitter build, and it'll need as many heat sinks as you can get.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=282&l=9e601256f5b49a399ee7f785bbf498b26eaf640a

And don't go around alpha striking everything like a retard.
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>>126209613
Look it's a big version of my stormcrow prime. Mine has small lasers in the arms though.
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Cool. I've only gotten 6 qualifying games, but I've already won the 'Mech, 600k cB, 30MC and a special snowflake.
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>>126209971
This works too.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=282&l=7f2b49af3c954ebdc03fda3624bd487e1dd51251

But I'll make fun of you and your one wonky right ear and extended hit-box.
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>>126209613
>>126210072
What do you think about the EBJ-A and its Ballistic hardpoint?
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If MWO is the thinking man's shooter then is cucking the thinking man's fetish?
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>poptarting meta was before muromets release
>there was never a week where it was the only 3 ac capable mech and uac jams weren't holding it back
>no p2w
>gold history
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My games aren't showing up on that page for the stocking stuffer event. How do I redeem these points?
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New player here. How do I tell my match score at the end of a match (for entry into the stocking grab bag).

AND how do I actually initiate the grab bag if I do get a token?
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>>126213471
I think the match score is the number by which players are ranked at the endgame screen in descending order. It's the number farthest to the left.
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>>126213109
Oh never mind it just took like 40 minutes for them to appear.
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>>126212736
Back then to be fair there really wasn't a hugely established meta. It was the complete fucking wild west even when the Muromets was out. I don't think the Ilya was imbalanced at all when it came out, it was a kneejerk reaction from people more than anything. If they'd let things settle it'd have never proved to be a problem. The 3UAC5 Cata was a walking broadside of a barn stuffed to the brim with explosives.

The only real imbalanced thing about it back when was the shot impact being out of control, or rather, that's why people hated it so much. Pubbies just couldn't fight back when getting railed by dakka. It's like people who think back and say AC2 boats were ever imbalanced or meta in the slightest. They weren't, they were trash, they were just good for bullying retards who didn't realize screenshake =/= reticule shake. Not to say the Muromets was bad, it was a certified good mech on release, I just always thought it was way overblown.

Dude's straight wrong about the 3D being in vogue prior though. That didn't happen until 2013. Nevermind the Muromets released like a week after the other Catas did so it's not even possible for the 3D to have entrenched itself into the meta. Even then, more people were playing dakka 4Xs than any other variant largely.

Fun thinking back to those days.
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>>126184541
>>126184259
that's the problem, objectives would be done if the rewards (gameplay and dosh) is right but it's always a two way argument

1: WAH it's just death match death match death match repetitive BS it's not a real mechwarrior

2: WAH people doing all these unfun smartarse sneaky walking simulator BS robbing me of fun shooting and cash this is a shit game.

PGI found an answer to this problem, they did fuck all about it and you leave if you hate what this game is or stay if you like it.
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So if I've never touched cw and am nowhere near ready having a decent dropdeck what would be the best faction to join to be a shitter for the event drops?
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>>126216836
First things first, clan or inner sphere? What mechs do you own right now?
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>>126217021

I have firestarters mastered and kept the A, I have a stormcrow that I hate, and I'm having a blast working on a blackjack.

So it's pretty much fucking nothing.
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>>126217608
IS it is for you then. Our group here is currently Marik if you want to be able to play with us, granted our IS side doesn't play CW nearly as much as our Clan side.

Whatever you do just set a week long contract anyways so you can freely change without worry. You will want to get to rank 2 in every faction to get ez mechbays particularly, so don't sweat it too much.
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>>126217824
literally no one plays IS CW except during CW events, and thats only the IS alts of people with clan mains.
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>>126216352
>Dude's straight wrong about the 3D being in vogue prior though. That didn't happen until 2013. Nevermind the Muromets released like a week after the other Catas did so it's not even possible for the 3D to have entrenched itself into the meta. Even then, more people were playing dakka 4Xs than any other variant largely.

3D was the meta to beat up until Limeray left us. So that's 2012 into 2013.
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>>126217608
>hate the stormcrow

Stop being shit
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>>126216352
>>126216352
yeah the problems with ac's and people say "it's the only one that can get 3!" was how the guns were more than the mech, it lasted but a week but it was a bit of an OP paywall danger.

the real highlight point is this guy has the nerve to do the "you weren't there man" speach and sites a joke build and the origins of a meta that happened almost a year after the muromets debacle.

any rewriting of history to fit their investment agenda.
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Is the Centurion AH even good for anything?
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>>126219823
It's good for selling so you got a free mechbay and some cbills.
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>>126219548
I don't care if it makes me shit I fucking hate everything about it other than its tonnage efficiency and if I ever do manage to fill a clan deck it'll be two timberwolves, a hellbringer and a cheater or something unless the clan meta shifts significantly.

Stormcrows can suck my dick.
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>>126219759
Joke build? I run triple uac5s on my timberwolf.
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>>126221025
It's a mini fucking heavy that goes 110 and can spin 165 degrees. You can spread damage so easy.

Confirmed shitter.
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>>126221261
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>>126221657
Kuckos Colos would be proud.
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I love when lights store their SRM ammo in their legs.
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>>126221025
>hate stormcrow for no reason

top shitter
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>>126222224
>>126222651

It's not like I'm not effective in it or anything, it's hard not to be effective in something with 5 artemis srm6's, and I had a shitload of practice with centurions and torso twisting in CBT.

I'm just a very vain person and hate how it looks and honestly just dislike clan tech in general.
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Trying new builds, how does this Mad dog look?
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>>126223576
>gotta look good when you're blowin up robits

See this guy knows what's up. Why are the rest of you such raging homosexuals?
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>>126221157
I was refering to the gold's reference to the 6 ppc stalker.
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Did they increase the maximum amount of drops from cw or something? Or was it always 75?
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>>126224191
and by drops I meant event awards
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>>126224028
too hot

going to get legged immediately

will die from an artillery strike to the cockpit

side torsos will last approximately .03 seconds with all that ammo stuffed into them
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>>126224051
The vast majority of us here play mechs we like regardless of meta compliance though
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>>126228994
I was mainly aiming at the guys ragging on him for not liking the Stormcrow because it's a hideous kitbashed monstrosity.
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How do people get stuck in tier 5? On all 3 accounts I've played it's only taken one game to boost me to 30-50% of the way through tier 4.

How does the system work exactly?
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>>126224745
They did, also added bonus for rifleman.
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who the fucc for MWO? SMASH dat mf LIKE button %Kong lord hours
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>>126231878
uw0t
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>>126224028
>a Vulture bristling with missiles tears (cleans) up the battlefield (after everyone else did all the hard work)
>a lone Commando, desperate to distract the heavy mech away from some friends, picked up a rock and threw it at the unsuspecting killstealer's back
>the Vulture explores
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>>126233818
*explodes
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>>126234137
Are you telling me I misspelled something, cuccboi?
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>>126233818
>vulture
Hey I spotted the rainbow dashing. It's almost as easy as spotting the feminist or the vegan
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guise, i asked you already but you didn't answer

are streaks/streakcrows as good as they were back in the beginning of october when i played this game the last time
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>>126234439
>rainbow dashing
Who's that?
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>>126234579
That pony fag mountain man Rutherford Darshing
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>>126234539
Not quite as good no

I mean they're good, but with the introduction of the Arctic Cheetah you can bet any lightpack is going to be under at least one ECM, if not multiple, and if it's multiple you're fucked without more BAPs/ECM helping you too.

That said it's still plenty strong and you shouldn't have any real problems doing well with it whatsoever, you just can't go chase down lights and assfuck them until they cry anymore or the tables will be turned on you quickly.
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>>126229201
He complained because it sucked, so I called him a shitter.
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>>126234439
He's not the only one who calls them Vultures.
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>>126235339
well, ach was introduced that time already

i meant if they underwent some nerfs or something

it's nice that they didn't
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>>126235350
I never said it sucked you illiterate mongolian.
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I bought an Artic Cheetah, had some fun, but then decided I wanted some missile spam. I followed a video and just copy pasted there build and ended up with a dual LRM10 Hunchback that isn't exactly the sort of missile spam I was looking for.

I've since burned through all my cadet bonuses and am stockpiling more money.

What is a good missile spam build for a Medium / Heavy mech?

Or am I just being a shit with the hunchback?
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>>126235980
Use lrm5 spam
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>>126236179
I'm completely new, so what is a heavy chassis I should aim for? The Timber Wolf seems pretty nice for missile DAKKA.
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>>126236941
Mad Dog is probably better because it has more hardpoints for missiles.
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Mandatory kneecapping for people who don't look at their maps when?
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>>126235980
2LRM10 HBK-4J is pretty much the most viable LRM boat in the game honestly, thanks to a combination of good quirks, good hardpoint placement, and being a medium so you don't waste an actually valuable weight class slot bringing meme weapons.

If you want more missiles, Awesome 8R is the factual best LRM mech in the game, capable of shitting out 4ALRM15s like candy. It's an Assault though, of course, and pretty costly to put together.

Mad Dog is the best LRM heavy around, capable of rocking either 6ALRM5 with backup lasers, 6LRM10, 4ALRM10 with lasers, etc etc etc. It has quite a lot of options thanks to Clan LRMs being half weight.

The Ebon Jaguar and Timber Wolf can also function as LRMboats if you really wanted, too. Both can pack on 4ALRM15 with tag easily.

Back to the IS side of things, the Trebuchets are also a solid choice for missiles, but if you don't like the HBK-4J you probably won't find them too satisfying. You could try running Catapults if you wanted but outside of the A1 they're pretty lacklustre still.

What you really want is the Archer, but it's still a ways out.
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>>126237706
What do you think of the Warhawk as an LRM boat?
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>>126237706
Thanks for the info. I'll stick with the hunchback then. THe last few gmaes I played were pretty good.

Are ballistic weapons viable? And what about gauss?

I have no feeling for the meta, and while I don't really care, I want something that is fun, consistent, and wont have me labeled as a memer.
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>>126238551
Pretty expensive option but it can be done.
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>>126238551
It works but considering it can't pack on 4ALRM15 despite having more tons than the TBR and EBJ, nevermind compared to the Awesome (5 more tons and half weight launchers) I wouldn't really call it that amazing.

You can throw on 2 20s and 2 15s, without artemis (but with backup lasers), which is acceptable I guess but considering the loss of speed compared to the heavies, the increased fragility due to shit hitboxes, huge amounts of locked heatsinks you won't be making the most of as a LRMboat and mediocre missile quirks it's tough to say it's legitimately worth the extra tonnage over them. I wouldn't suggest buying a Warhawk for the sole purpose of LRMing, but if you have one and like LRMs it's a fun thing to try out I suppose.

>>126239440
Gauss is good but it's lacking in DPS now thanks to a recent nerf. If you're looking for a straight up long range build gauss is excellent, but the nerf has lessened its viability as a medium range weapon. The ERML+Goose combo got knocked down quite a few pegs unfortunately.

AC5s are excellent and pretty much the bread and butter of ballistics, UAC5s as well. AC2s are trash, machineguns are a meme you should only consider if you can mount 4 of them, AC10s are lacklustre as fuck but fairly usable, and AC20 is great for what it does. LB10X is complete garbage.

On the Clan side of things, only the UACs matter for starters (aside from funtimes with the LB20X, which while a bad weapon is immensely satisfying). The Clan Autocannons are literal placeholders because PGI can't into ammo switching for the LBX and worse in every way than the UAC variants. C-UAC5 > C-UAC10 > C-UAC20 >>>> C-UAC2.

As for the meta: lasers. For IS it's all about running LL/LPL/ERLL on robots with quirks for them, particular laser duration and range, and ideally you want to build around a brace of 3 of them since that's the max you can alpha without having your heatsinks haunted by spooky ghosts. For Clans it's all about the C-LPL and ERML.
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>>126237706
How's this?
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=212&l=c432006e2d8f2302f20229ce68fe5e2b5562c31c
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>>126240740
Solid advice.
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Nobody grinding robuts?
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Clan Woof CW anyone?
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When can I think about joining a faction?

And, what faction does /vg/ play as?
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>>126244259
when you are tier 2 at least nd you know what you are doing.
also you must have a 4 mech dropdeck for either IS or Clan to play CW.
other than CW there is no point in joining a faction.
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>>126242634
No need for a targetting computer. With only 2ML it's a total waste. That much ammo in your STs is not a good idea on a Mad Dog - their STs are stupidly easy to single out, and being a 60 tonner they're pretty fragile. On a lot of the Clan chicken walkers it's best to throw a bit of ammo into the arms, since you will almost never lose an arm without losing the ST due to how ineffective at shielding the arms are on them. The Ebon Jaguar is the exception to this rule. Following this, it's better to take a little armour off the arms and legs rather than a lot off the legs (for these mechs). The higher in tiers you go, the more people go for legs, especially against Omnimechs with their high agility.

Also it's best to try and utilize the same types of weapons due to weapon modules. You have limited slots for these depending on the mech. Any given weapon (sans AC2) has a module for a 12% ROF increase, or a 10% range increase. As LRMs go, extra range is worthless, so fortunately you could take both LRM20 and 10 cooldowns since the MDD has 2 weapon module slots.

Since you aren't using all three missile slots on the -A torso you're better off using the -B to get the 5% torso twist rate quirk. You could also slide all the arm weapons you have equipped into the right arm and completely strip the left to free up tonnage.

Lastly, don't ever take that little head armour unless you're a light. Any Heavy or above should have the full 18. Headshots are rare but it sucks balls to lose such a valuable mech asset to effectively RNG.

With all that said here's how I'd rearrange that build without changing the weapon loadout:
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=212&l=e221ecff978d870832d91d69f1a689bd0d560627

And here's how I'd revamp it:
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=212&l=781927681de99588ae9dcdb6e33a38780c6f74d9

By the way, smaller LRM racks = tighter missile grouping/accuracy.

>>126244259
Marik for IS, Wolf for Clan. Wolf is far more active for CW.
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Harascrub have you finally gotten gud at this game
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>>126245910
I am an officially sanctioned Kong EMPeror thank you, a title bestowed upon me by Kong Lord Karlos "Mind of Mencia" Kaelus himself
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>>126246646
the dutch shitter is still alive?
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>>126245724
Wow. Thanks for taking the time to type all of that up. That's a lot of things I didn't even think about. I'm going to take the revamped build, with some personal tweaks.
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>Oh boy I should really get to bed so I have a reasonable amount of sleep for work tomorrow
>Faggots implying Kong drops are happening
God damn it.
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>>126246848
No problem. Everyone starts somewhere. Mech building is a pretty complex process, not helped by a fuckload of undocumented shit. For every right way to build something there's a hundred wrong ways or more. If you need anymore help just ask.
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>>126246848
It's cool, man. I really had nothing to do aside from cleaning my dragon dildo collection after a hard day of sitting on them.
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>>126247748
>implying I clean my dragon dildos

fucking pleb
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>Not having an autistic need to try something different on every variant
The IIC-C swaping two of the excess ballistic for extra lasers really made this hard. I tinkered with a bunch of wonky shit and nothing called out to me.

Until this. BEHOLD. The pay2clamjam.
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>>126248794
How do you get the IIC mechs?

Real dosh?
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>>126249035
Real money only right now, yes.

Jenner IIC (all variants): January 19th for MC and February 16th for C-Bills
Hunchback IIC (all variants): February 2nd for MC and March 1st for C-Bills
Orion IIC (all variants): February 16th for MC and March 15th for C-Bills
Highlander IIC (all variants): March 1st for MC and April 5th for C-Bills
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http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=271&l=ed852055dc6e52785c124b31e7a1a4d8a1d86ec4
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>>126249339
This is the first time I've been really salty about p2w in this game, since the Jenner and Hunchback at least seem to be direct upgrades to the old versions.
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>>126248794
>that back armor
RIP your buttocks

>not having reaction images on your phone
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>>126248794
How to have your right hunch explode immediately: the mech

drop the arm armour, drop the lasers, and stop skipping leg day

>>126249916
>implying that back armour is too low
It's too high, not too low
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>>126249916
Are you implying its too high or too low?
Because the primary problem with that build is that it's artillery fodder.
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>>126248794
>not running 4LB2Xs with LB2 cooldown module

get a load of this cuck, doesn't even know how to meme

can't jump either, fuckin whitebread ass motherfucker
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>>126248794
Would get a headshot on with artillery/10

Those small lasers are pointless as shit, you don't need arms, you do need legs, and you don't need your RT to explode from a stiff breeze

Literally a walking pinata, also learn to jump
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Did I do good at luck guys?
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https://u.pomf.io/iscwqv.mp4


New meta?
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>>126251243
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StHqBi6NY1I

2012 was here ur a fag
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>>126251340
>>126251243
And taken to its logical extreme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uXvli0fK_E
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>Fuck around with other origin shit
>Come back to people nitpicking a proof of concept that clearly still has some stock values and shit just tossed in open crits to see if it would fit
Fucking nobody legs hunches and a medium mech over 80kph will probably spend 2 seconds under an artillery strike per entire match average. I'm more likely to run out of ammo or secure a component/kill up close during jams than I am to get legged or arty headcapped but I'll humor you faggots.
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>>126252697
>getting mad that his build is being nitpicked
Are you new here? What did you expect?
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>>126249903
Except that the IIC's are less survivable than the inner sphere versions and can only do basic clan close range skirmishing well.

They suck at specialization that the shitter sphere quirks grant the original ones.
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>>126252697
I say what I do because that was the very first build I ran on my HBKs and is still the build sitting on mine right now

You only need 2JJs really, TRY AGAIN :^)

Also people definitely leg those Hunches, tryhards will leg any mech that shows any skill in torso twisting and all the IICs pop real fast compared to their IS equivalents
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>>126253198
also you should always remember one thing when making HBK-IICs that everyone overlooks and is vital to reaching maximum fun levels

LB20Xs don't have ghost heat
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I just got legged by some shitty geometry on Caustic when it was down to me vs two nearly dead heavies.

My leg got stuck and I couldn't move until it exploded for no reason. GG PGI
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3x SRM6 shadowcat. Artemis, or no artemis?
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>>126257169

Get better robot.
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>>126257750
Yeah, I'm saving up for your mother after.
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>>126256530
Should have brought some jump jets.

Somebody needs to come up with a more memetic name for jump jacks.
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>>126258890
I actually did have jump jets. They weren't helping either.
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Why the fuck does the clan UAC5 jam so much? Like, every single time I try to "double shoot" it just jams.
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I L O V E the LRM Hell that events bring out.

Fucking, WHY?!
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>>126265235
I dunno, but I'm getting easy points dismantling all those boats.
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>>126265609
When LRM boats are the last ones alive, with no ammo or dumb firing at point blank... best of memes, in all honesty family.
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>>126265943
That sounds hilarious, I should smurf.
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>>126266185
You should. Tier 5, 4, and low end of 3 are magical sometimes.
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>>126251584
a video so bad I instinctively closed the tab while watching
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>>126222224
Literally Who
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Wow, thanks PGI.
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>>126268956
rekt
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>>126268956
pig's generosity for this season knows no bounds

but they give no fucks ever
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>>126268956
not much better but still more than u :^)
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Dire Wolf +5% top speed quirk when?

That'd let it actually catch up to fights, give it the speed it's got displayed on Sarna, and PGI wouldn't have to touch it's engine.

Because right now it's the easiest assault to kill in the game. If you don't fuck up and stand in front of it like a total retard, you WILL dismantle a dire wolf.
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>>126274487
Is this test tube baby meme never going to end?
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wew
>>321184628
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Apparently Rifleman preorder golds were salty they didn't get free crap in the event so now they get 25 stocking grabs along with the Archer golds. And if the event grind wasn't bad enough there are another 25 faction play stockings added as well.
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This thread and everyone in it is literally reddit. I'm going to quit Kong.
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>>126278158
What's wrong with that exactly?
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Someone needs to make a new thread. Christmas Coal Grind Edition.
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>>126278235
thanks for the heads up, faggot. You won't be missed
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>>126278235
>I'm not on Mumble or Discord
>time to shitpost how this is reddit

Yeah, yeah anonymous is legion.
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yfw there are still untapped old man nostalgia wallets
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>>126278698
>I have a soft spot for the Mech designs
>completely disregard if the gameplay and longevity is any good.

Every damn time. I can't even use my Founders Catapult anymore since it's a shit Mech now.
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>>126278895
I saw a founders cat yesterday. He did OK.
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>>126278967
What does "doing okay" even mean?
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>>126278967
My bigger point is that people see the art and that's all they love about the Mech. They're ready to throw down like I was back in 2012 when I still had hope.

The Catapult has been dead since the Clan release, even with he ECM range reduction LRMs are still a terrible weapon to use when you have laser vomit. Run a Thunderbolt instead.

The structure and weapon buffs are worthless if you can't deal damage and dump over a 1,000 missiles into the dirt.
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>>126279069
He didn't die, he managed a kill, and over 250 damage.
I'd call that okay.

>>126279137
I completely understand your point, I was just making off hand comments. Founders Cats are just really rare is all, so finding one in game was a surprise.
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>>126279279
>He didn't die, he managed a kill, and over 250 damage.
>typical Catapult life in 2015

You will still get a feel good 190K C-Bills for doing jack shit.
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>be out on the county-side.
>forgot my camera back home.

sadatlasinapub.png
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>>126280471
Use your phone.
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>>126279551
>>126279279
>>126279137
>not picking up active probe for LRMs
>not using the ears as SRM pods for super shotgun magic

It's not the games fault you guys suck at utilizing a chassis.
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>>126280575

>pleb tier pictures.
>2015.

It can't be helped.
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>>126280767
>2ASRM6 on a C1

kek

>actually suggesting 2ALRM15 is worth a 65 tonner in 2015

double kek
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