/edg/ - Elite: Dangerous General

How do I get a refund?

why is there even a general for elite

>>125848024

cuz we like to shitpost

Also it's a great way to make fun of forumdads by sharing their whereabouts

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>>125848197


Last week I had 60M.

I am a wizard

>>125848024
With the release of Horizons we've had heaps to bitch about. Don't worry it'll die again in a month or so.

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>>125848024
Because it's more fun then the game itself.

>>125849019


I want this to be real

>Doing smuggling shit
>Indicted by spacepigs
>Wigs out and makes the fed instantly fail

I guess bugs have to work in your favor at some point

>>125849510

They got VISION'D

I got 450M, what do now?

>>125850718
Buy a cutter/corvette and sit in the mailslot of a dad haven.

>>125850718
Get another 550+ million, A-Rate an Anaconda, then uninstall the game and never look back.

>>125850904
http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=706,7RLA5i4zh4zh9qW9qW4wt4wt01Q0Ga0mI0_g0_g3wA3gY0mI,31CgB69Y7_CgCg8I,7Vs0PA0PA7jw16y16y16y9tQ4_w0720nE

you mean that war machine?

Do better thrusters give me better speed or maneuverability?

>>125852587

Speed. Probably maneuverability too, but I've never noticed much of a difference personally.

>>125852587
Yes.

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>Go to the galaxy core with conda
>Wait for forumdads and autists there
>Interdict the shit out of everybody
>Kill them mercyless
>Fuck up months and weeks of progression

Why aren't we doing this?

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>>125853195
Guess you werent around in times of the core-crusader.
He gave up halfway cause traveling to the core with a combat load conda is a special kind of suffering.

>game came out 1 year ago
>no dedicated coop content
>no raids
>no pvp missions
>game feels like X3-light
>devs are already selling first "expansion" (basically fucking nothing ATM) for $60
So is Star Citizen having it worse or better?

>>125854574
You honestly believe they're ever going to release Star Citizen?

>>125854787
I never checked on it after Arena Commander came out
Judging by wiki it hasn't moved since
All right

Reminder :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o3HAur6C5A&feature=youtu.be&t=1m9s

Don't be the faggot flying FDL in this vid.

If an "Eagleboy" or "Surprisewinder" try to grab your ass, let him do so. Go straight for a bit and even try charging the FSD.

Then stop. He'll ram you. Instakill without firing a shot.

Or you can just do the back throttling. You get the time window long enough to kick his ass multiple times.

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>>125854949
>Judging by wiki

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf4zCCjBwOA

>>125854787
>>125854949
>>125855085
>>125855181
For the love of god, take this shit to /scg/

Waaaaaait, nevermind. Take it to the Frontier forums. The dads love it.

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>>125845536
>Cobra part removed from OP
>TOP DAD

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>want to get a space exploration sim with actual ships/combat
>Star Citizen is never coming out, currently in alpha, and supposedly barren at the moment
>all the others on Steam are blasted
>Elite Dangerous gets good reviews
>oh cool, a new expansion came out on Tuesday
>check it out
>"Early Access"
>means no refunds
>it's 60 bucks
>can't find cheaper keys anywhere
>Steam EA refunds are a gamble
Not sure what to do. I'm sitting on 76 bucks, so plopping 60 on a game I could potentially dislike AND be fucked out of a refund for is a gamble.

The bulletin boards have been garbage since the update.

All the jobs are really low pay, and the ones that pay 90K or more are now rare as fuck unless you go to Fehu or something.

Why did they break the game?

>>125856079

Wait for the sale.
The game is sufficient but if you actually spend $60 on this shit you'll feel ripped off.

>>125856079
just get the base game when its on sale

>>125856079
>>Elite Dangerous gets good reviews

No it doesn't

>>125856079
Whine more, they aren't charging you per month to play, which would have cost you about 180 dollars at this point. You expect these people to work for nothing to keep updating this game? Paying some money once a year to keep these people employed and to keep the content flowing is a small price to pay to avoid monthly fees.

>>125856602
make first ask money later

don't imitate scam citizen

>>125856602

>Keep the content flowing.

>"Content"

How are you enjoying that 60$ Mako DLC cuck?

Did anyone else randomly get the Black Friday skin? I didn't even buy anything recently, it just showed up in outfitting.

>>125856843
You got it for prepurchasing the Horizons you shill

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>>125856602

>$60 game sells a million copies
>release a $60 expansion a year later
>sell paintjobs for ships that you spent all of 15 minutes making for $15
>sell bobbleheads

>MUH SERVER COSTS

>implying they spend anything on the servers anyway

>>125856843
It's a freebie to anyone who backed/preordered/etc

>>125856385
It has 80 on Metacritic. Not bad.

Is there anything on uninhabited planets? Like can you find shit lying around or anything interesting?

>>125857243
It's random and rare, but from what they're saying, half the interesting shit you're supposed to find isn't even in the game yet.

>>125857080
The vast majority of good reviews are from people caught up in the VISION of launch. Also the dads have literally begun downvoting every bad steam user review because bad reviews are "just trolls" so it's not far off to believe they'd be willing to create alt accounts just to bring the ratings up.

>>125857527
So what the fuck is the point? I just want them to make exploring more fun. Jumping in scanning and staying in a system for 30 minutes or longer just because the range on the surface scanner is shit pisses me off so much. There is nothing fun about this.

>>125857726
How to make exploration more fun:
>Discovery scanner ping "Explores" the system.
>Detailed surface scans are only where the real money is, and automatically scan as you closely orbit a planet
>Detailed surface scans reveal points of interest that can be explored in your buggy for even more dosh
>A new module called the probe launcher fulfills the surface scanner's role on stars, black holes, and gas giants.

There I not only fixed exploration but fixed horizons whenever they implement landing for more planet types.

>>125858203
It certainly has to be slowed down. Right now it's essentially just flying in, scanning and flying towards the useful stuff. Icey and rocky shit is totally useless.

You should be able to do something with this, maybe use the probe for that and have a chance to find possible rare materials, like beneath the ice or something. Which in return would up the value on scanned planets and or system. Any you also have a good reason to sell it to the group you want the system to take over. Is this even happening right now?

Imagine they'll fucking start working on shit, maybe build a station. Or at least plan on doing so. Things should be more connected, mak the galaxy more important. Right now the actual systems and planets are literally irrelevant and only exist because Elite is a space game. Pretty fucking sad if you think about it.

>>125858541
What I want to do is make it so you don't have to waste your time scanning everything in the system just to get rid of the [unknown] tag. But on the other hand detailed surface scans of the important shit would be slower because you have to actually closely orbit while scanning instead of just parking some LS away and scanning.

And then there's the actual creation of a reason to take buggys along and going to the surface other than LOL THIS IS SO FUN GUISE I JUST DID A BARREL ROLL IN MY BUGGY XD

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>>125854787
>>125854574

Remember me?

>forever beta
>not release
>"be kind it is not released yet
>the island
>dayz
>star citizen

B-but it is BETA

>Took a kidnapping mission
>Find my target
>About to interdict
>PULL OVER PILOT
>Fucking system police
>No problem my vulture can escape no problem and interdict my target
>Have a full blue bar
>Just a few more seconds and I'll be out
>Suddenly tunnel turns sideways and I immediately fail
VISION

The shit part is this isn't a new vision, it has been in the game since FUCKING LAUNCH. THEY KNOW ITS A PROBLEM AND THEY STILL HAVEN'T FIXED IT IN OVER A YEAR

>>125856385

forumdads are spamming good reviews

>>125856602
Charging you per month? for p2p multiplayer? for an inexistent MMO experience? You're fucking delusional if you think that this multiplayer no one asked for deserves any payment.

Kill yourself.

>Have a grade A python
>Still prefer tooling around in my Vulture

What do when you got 1 000 000 000 credits anons ?

>>125862706
A reason to uninstall.

>>125862772

there must be more to live for.

>>125862908
Do something with black holes.

Why the fuck do i have only 1 or 2 missions available per station when i used to have at least 10 to choose from before horizons?

>>125862990

So you suggest I go explore then?

>>125862908
Well, unless you wanna start ramming people at stations in an Orca there's jack shit to do.

The game doesn't say anything once you get 1 billion. I've tried

Is it still possible to load up with regular Robigo cargo missions? I figured that with the large amount of time given to complete each mission, I could still play the relog roulette game, even if it does take longer.

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>>125863038
Because last patch happend and Brabo want you to suffer more.

>>125863225
Good fucking christ thank god i didnt buy the expansion never playing this shit again

>>125863223

not interesting, Sorry anon

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>>125863294
Refreshing bulletin board by switching gamemodes also doesn't work anymore.
VISION

>>125863038
Jewbren wants you to buy its new vision, where all the cool dads are now.

>>125863294
Okay, bye.

>>125863526
missions change each hours then?

>>125863526
Combat Rank: Dadly

>>125863526
I was cheesing missions at Robigo today without too much issue, though only the Solo board would change.

>newbie
>try assasination mission
>go fuck this dude up
>find him in supercruise after 40minutes
>in an Anaconda with 2 wingmen

Who the fuck designes this? I should not be even allowed to take such difficult mission early on, or at least should be offered more than 50k...

>>125865779
They should have non-random requirements, I guess it's part of the vision.

>elite dangerous is in top games on twitch
>some German faggot got 7000 viewers

>>125866191
Wanna ruin his stream? Or he's a solo faggot?

>>125866191
>Next most watched channel is a forummom role playing as space police and call other people "commander" and talks all formally

>>125866351
He's playing in a wing, but no idea whether it's open or private.

So I'm looking at missons on a planet and one is called "One of our Pilots is Missing"

I google it because the yet again everything is so fucking vague in this game, and apparently it is bugged, why the fuck is everything planet-side fucking bugged?

>>125867461
because muh early access

>>125867461
Not just planetside
EVERY mission in the game is bugged right now except the simple kill or deliver shit missions.
Even the old collect illegal shit missions are bugged because the game does not generate anything with the mission specific tag anymore so you just can't turn in trade data for example even if you picked up a dozen from a signal source.

>>125865779
The mission payouts should be relative to the difficulty. But they're not because VISION.

Tried exploring a few months back and managed to claim fist discovery on a few systems. Turns out they have planets capable of landing. Might just go back and explore for ruins etc

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>>125868543
Pls no

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Is Robigo really the only way to make the guaranteed big bucks? I've already kitted out and I can do them with relative ease, but I'm already starting to feel dead inside with it.

>>125868543
>>125868638
>>125868726
And this does not help either.

>>125867461
That one's possible. However I had to do a lot of skimming the surface in normal flight to get it done. A settlement gets generated at some point to get the pods from.

>>125868543
>>125868638
>>125868726
Are there any games not corrupted by furfaggotry?

also we need to get a kill on sight list from this game (if any of forumdads and other dickheads actually play in open actually play open).

Psssssssssht
>grab a ship with a nice cargo capacity
go to pelliot town in cemiess
>haul50to90 slaves for 1-2 milion credits haul mission to the nearby system
make dosh
>nothing personnel kid

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>jump into other system
>immediately being inderdicted
>RIGHT NEXT TO A SUN

>>125859589
Interested in getting a vulture, what do you have on your weapon hardpoints?

>>125870472
not that dude but i have dual large beam laser

>>125870472
>Option A
Two Fixed Pulses
>Option B
Beam and a Cannon

>>125870472
Pulses are about the most you can get unless you want to get cute with a mixed beam/cannon setup. Both work, pulses feel better for general use and the hybrid setup feels better for killing big ships.
Vulture just has power problems. Biweave shields help that quite a bit though.

>>125848197
They play solo mode

Stay mad :^)

>>125856602
you do know that Elite is not the only piece of software the devs are working on right ?
you do know that companies get a hefty income of cash if a certain metacritic % is quite high right ?

>>125870796
>bi-weave
How good are they? Currently on my vulture my shields are insanely good.
If i changed to bi-weave, wouldn't the shields kind of suck after that?

>>125871121
Check ED shipyard
If the numbers are accurate the vulture still has over 300mj shield strength with biweave, and with a faster recharge speed. Not to mention with the vulture's maneuverability you can often remove yourself for short periods to let your shields recharge.

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dead game

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>>125845536
Whats the best way to destroy a powerplant?
Most of the time I try, I end up killing the target instead.
Is there any weapon that does damage to just the module instead of the hull, or anything similar that could help me?
Or do I have to just git gud and aim better?

>>125871583
plasma accelerator

>>125871583
Gimballed beams are actually really good for that.

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>>125871980
I actually had those, sometimes they worked really well, but othertimes they completely decimated the hull.
I want something more reliable, but gimballed cause I can't aim for shit.

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>>125863526
>filename

>>125870939
I too play solo mode.

And I don't give a shit

>>125870472
I run two things depending on how lazy I am.

2x Gimballed Pulse if I just feel like holding down the mouse and waiting for the thing in front of me to die. I'm pretty sure you can't run out of power with a-rank power plant and distributor with 4 pips on weapons.

Fixed Beam and Gimballed Cannon if I feel like trying to swarm bigger things. Fixed beam does a shitload of damage, and just a single one can fire a long ass time on 4 pips. Heat is the only problem with it. Then once the shield is down just chunk away at the hull with the cannon, or start selecting modules for the fixed beam to lock onto. There's actually a little bit of a locking ability with fixed weapons that i've noticed, very small but enough to stick to a module and rip it apart.

>>125874778
Isn't there some kind of faction pulse laser that damages components?

>>125877561
Doesn't do any extra damage to them, but does cause them to malfunction.

>>125877561
Yeah, but it's fixed and IIRC it doesn't actually damage modules, but it temporarily takes a random module offline.

>>125878589
It causes the targeted subsystem to malfunction.
It is fixed though, so not what anon is looking for.

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>flying in my homesystem to take my fat stinking cargo ship and earn some cash
>a cmdr is in the radar
>unshielded cobra with mining lasers and limpets in system with pristine rings
>interdict him, he has 10 painite, ask him to drop it
>he tries to get away, burn his hull down to 10% and ask again, he is still silent and keeps boosting away
>kill him
>he adds me and starts to talk on how im a griefer that is killing the game, that he is going to report me on the official forum etc etc

... Did i found a dad? in open?

>>125878536
>>125878589
>>125878987
I wonder how long it lasts, might be worthwhile if you can stunlock someone's power plant.

>>125879784
Holy shit! A genuine DAD!! What was his name?

>>125845876
So I have enough money to get the Asp... any reason I should keep the Cobra? I already have a viper fully kitted for combat.

>>125879938
Cmdr gnegnol

>>125880265
You could keep the cobra for some low risk stuff like mining or rare trading.

or short range smuggling in archon space.

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https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=215209

>dude posts about "any npc ship being able to outrun you flying backwards while scanning you bug"
>a vision thing that's like a year old already
>dads go full damage control
>HURRR MUST BE YOUR LACK OF SKILL

>>125880421
Yea I think I'll do that, but I'll sell the advanced scanner and stuff

>>125880867
I've never seen that one, but the Viper mkII really isn't as agile as it should be, It retarded how many much larger chips can out turn it. He's right to be mad about the corvette being able to out outmaneuver him at all, even if he's the worst pilot in the game.

>tfw driving around on tiny deserted moons with 0.02 gravity hundreds of ly away from populated space
>comfy as fuck

Who /comfy srv/ here?
I have a mostly a-grade Python, but I realised that grinding for the next grindstone didn't really tempt me all that much. I have left the grind behind, alongside the rest of humanity. The game has never been more rewarding. I am free from the vision.


I have achieved enlightenment.

>>125882217
I like SRVs, but there's not much else to do but bounce around until you hit 10% hull, call down your ship to repair, and repeat. I wish you could at least mine the planets or something.

HOW DO I EARN FED RANKS HELP

>>125882832
Do a bunch of missions with the fed emblem next to them.

>>125882832
You don't anymore.

>>125882832
>>125883056
Did they patch all of the exploits? Thanks VISION!

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>>125879784
>carrying painite
>unshielded
>letting ANYONE scan you

>>125883127
"exploits"

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SERVERS UP WHEN?
THIS IS WHY YOU PUT A OFFLINE MODE

Anyone else getting the bug of their combat, trading, and exploration ranks being reset?

>>125883821
Can't even get into the game right now, m8.

>>125883821
Don't worry, it isn't just you.

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>>125883821
>combat, trading, and exploration ranks being reset

>>125882217
right here my nigga

after abusing Robigo before the update hit, i now have a fully A rated python and a comfy amount of millions to spare. all i do now is wander around checking PoI's on planets.

Were free brother, were free......

>>125882217
>free from the vision.
No, You have seen the vision.

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>>125883821
>combat, trading, and exploration ranks being reset
Just the thought of that...

>>125883127
There's still one they couldn't touch... It involves
_______________________________PAINITE_______________________________

>>125885391
That shit's been dead since 1.4

>>125885391
Ain't buying that meme anon.

>>125885818
>>125885858
Actually you can still dupe shit, it's just slower than trading and it requires some effort now so kind of useless.

>>125879784

Surprised he didn't just dump the limpets to pull his boost speed up to 450.

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Can you spot the SRV?

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What's wrong with this picture?

>>125887432
>Black friday skin
>No white christmas skin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA7muB7qb_g

Got My first million

Party hard

>>125887594
gimbals

>>125887598
Just get an imperial ship.

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EHLEMAYOH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5UQtPThC_o

>that assravaged dad in the comment section

>>125887708
Python has shit maneuverability for fixed.
[Spoiler]Also I'm fucking lazy.[/Spoiler]

New community goals running. Which of these should I dedicate my time and effort to helping? or pirating, whatever

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>>125887708
>using fixed
>on a Python

>Online play
>Robigo is allied
>Solo play
>Robigo cartel is neutral along with Sirius
Uhhh

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>>125887783
>Psst. Dumbass. If a player doesn't wanna play along with the "RP"? It's griefing. Ever think of ASKING a player if they're interested in playing the way YOU want them to play?

Of course not! That's only something a decent individual of average intellect or better would ask themselves! XD

No pity for you morons. Like, at all. Grow up. Just because something is legal doesn't make it right. (Not that you'll ever understand such a concept...)
>I do. My Anaconda has a shield output of over 2,000MJ. There isn't a single member of either Code or EIC who can break them before I bounce. XD
>YOU kiddies

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>>125887783
I HATE THESE FUCKING PEOPLE

FORUMDADS ARE KILLING THE GAME WITH THIS SHIT

FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU

>>125887783
>>125889890

>be a carebear
>play in open

why, dying doesn't even set you back that much since rebuys are so damn cheap

>>125887783
>Owns a Cutter worth over 200M
>Elite rank
>Can't afford to drop 40 cargo

Why? I would gladly give up 40 cargo if someone actually interdicted me. There's barely any player interaction as it is.

>ALD
I want to apologize for this #1 Dad on behalf of ALD

I got 510 M in assets

All that done with my autism

Kill me please

I don't even know why I'm doing this

Found a trade route where one jump will give me roughly 200k cr, is this as good as trading gets?
I'm in a type 6

>>125891885


in a type 6 that is quite good

>get my cobra mk3
>oh boy oh boy, what's next
>5 million, 50 million, 200 million
>missions make like 40k at a time

well memed

>>125891885
Trade routes are measured in profit per ton.

A 2000+ round trip is good, 3000 is excellent, 3500+ is god tier.

>>125891950
So this is my life now, zooming back and forth between 2 systems.
How much should I farm before I upgrade to something better?
Oh and what should I upgrade to after this. got a viper mk3 parked somewhere.

>>125892212
I got a pretty good thing going then, getting roughly 2k cr profit

>>125892212
>So this is my life now

Yes

If you find it boring then you should quit right now because after that there is type 7 then type 9 / conda

and you got to grind ALL THE WAY to them

>>125891885
>>125892212
>doing a trade route more than once

you brought this on yourself

someone in the last thread claimed that kb+m is more accurate than a flight stick. literally how?

Interdiction is SHIT now

How am I supposed to win when the tunnel of interdiction SUDDENTLY goes far beyond the screen, and I am locked in my movements

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>>125892513
a mouse can be moved faster because it is lighter, and more precisely because it rests on the table

the virtual joystick is well done so you can have very precise pitch and yaw control needed to aim

and with the keyboard you can have full lateral controls simultaneously

>there will never be a thc peripheral for space games

>>125892506
I used the calculater in the OP and it told me to fly back and forth.
>>125892441
I can get used to being a space trucker, just wanted to make sure I wasnt wasting my time.
>>125892624
And here I though it was just me being shit at avoiding them.

>>125892783


do you mean fucking keyboard also helps when interdicted??

>>125892798
What's the route you found?

>>125892920
you can't strafe in supercruise so I don't think so

a joystick is probably better for maneuvering, and a mouse for aiming, so interdiction may be where joysticks are good

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>>125892986
more than one ship ruins the road, you better not tell

frontier made it clear to fuck the shit of everybody, can't share route cuz price instantly drops and ruin all

>JUST
>FUCK
>MY
>SHIT
>UP

>NO
>FUN

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>>125887594

Did you open fire before the passive scan finished and revealed he was wanted?

If it's about the wing size, NPCs have no 4-ship limit.

>>125892986
HIP 95350 fraknoi to HIP 95256
Gold or paladium one way guns the other

>>125893134
>cheating
>fun

exploring and finding your own routes is fun
using a calculator is not

>frontier tries to save you from yourself
>you won't take it
>complain about VISION

>>125893206
>cuck

tomorrow your road will be ded.

>>125893134
> implying the "background sim" actually does things

It's all client side, man.

>>125893265
I'm done for today anyway, and I need to go get my viper back anyway

>>125892783
could always group up in one place and have some good old duels, just till the shields are down.
that way you could compare what's better. more or less that is

V I S I O N
I O
S I
I S
O I
N O I S I V


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hly_ozSu2oE

>>125893450
well you'd need to do many duels with the same ship/loadout and players, where each duelist switches out their controls each round to see if there is an effect on the win-rate, and that's not accounting for player skill which means you'd have to do a bunch of control duels with the same controllers to establish a baseline for that pair

tedious

>>125887783
>one turret alongside the gimbals

dafuq

>>125893624
holy shit I failed so hard

>tfw dads kicked me from their IRC because I said Star Wars sucks and apparently it was a spoiler.
Be glad that I haven't actually spoiled it you cunts. Hell even if I wanted to, I couldn't possibly spoil it. It has no story at all.

Save me from this suffering. I don't want to play with them anymore

>>125892624
>How am I supposed to win when the tunnel of interdiction SUDDENTLY goes far beyond the screen, and I am locked in my movements
>>125892798
>And here I though it was just me being shit at avoiding them.

I have more trouble with NPCs than players. Why the fuck is NPC interdiction so glitchy when the cunt is local to my own machine?

You're following the tunnel and suddenly it flips 180 behind you, causing you to lose in less than 2 seconds.

>>125892783
>a mouse can be moved faster because it is lighter, and more precisely because it rests on the table

I don't agree with these assessments. What stick are you using? I can throw mine to full deflection pretty much instantaneously, and having an easily identified "zero" and "100" makes it easier to pick a specific pitch for the joystick. Also there's a similar advantage to having easy access to the full range of the throttle, altho that's totally mitigated in Elite's simplified throttle commands (compared to more dedicated flight simulators). also I've been able to map the additional thrusters in a way that i can control them, manage my pips, control throttle and stick input, and fire all weapons groups at once.

to be fair though i came into elite with countless hours of flight sim experience, I can see your argument applying to someone with less familiarity with joysticks and using a cheaper stick than mine, and definitely see how a joystick is less important for elite than for playing flight simulators

>>125893875
no double spacing on 4chin

>>125892990

Not at all. Mouse is by far superior to a stick for interdiction. Staying centered in the tunnel is like balancing on the head of a pin, and a mouse's accuracy shines for that.

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>>125894143
>there will never be a star wars space flight SIM
>interactive cockpit
>simulating the kind of flight mechanics seen in the movies

just wing commander clones all day every day

infinity is looking reasonably close I guess but still

>>125895083
there's seven trillion space sims out or in early access, it somehow became a phenomena and that means there's a fair chance that Disney will be interested in resurrecting/desecrating the X-wing series

>>125894305
bind the throttle to the scroll wheel

I don't actually have a joystick but I have used them and they just feel heavier than a mouse

maybe the good ones are more light touch, but that would mean you would have to hold it using only your muscles when not centered or resting on the edge

>>125895219
x-wing was a wing commander type flight "sim", there's no way it would be good or anything like the movies anyway

>>125895379

Ships in the movies fly like atmospheric aircraft, so just play a modern flight sim and there you have it.

>>125895083
>tfw Elite is the closest thing we can get and it's still utter shit
The Vision is strong with this one

>>125895083
EA will probably jew the spacr combat part they cut from battlefront, not that I would ever consider buying it, though

>>125895249
my old logitech extreme 3D was pretty heavy and had limited travel, so it was definitely limiting. It was better than kb+m for flight sims but I can buy it being less suitable for elite.

currently using an old/good build of the Saitek X52 and thinking about adding rudder pedals, more for sims than for elite. The big thing is that there's three multi-directional hat switches right at my finger tips, which is how I can put thrusters and pips within reach while also having hands on throttle and stick at all times. I'm struggling to picture a kb binding that would let you do all of that effectively, without at least one hand movement, and imo it would be a little harder and less intuitive than what i have.

>>125895502
pretty much true, also if you like the fighting aspects of elite then basically any flight sim is going to be that x100

Rise of Flight for WWI, any of the Sturmoviks for WWII, DCS for modern jets although the closest to Star Wars style combat is probably the first gen jets in Sturmovik 1946

>>125895249
>I don't actually have a joystick but I have used them and they just feel heavier than a mouse

I know CH sticks have a light return action and are quite nice to use.

>that would mean you would have to hold it using only your muscles when not centered or resting on the edge

So? All your control switches and hats are on there so it's not like you'd be letting go of it in the middle of a maneuver.

HOTAS = Hands On Throttle And Stick.

>>125895502
they handle like ww2 fighters yes, but there's things that are different, there's still no up or down, no wind resistance, and they are insanely fast and have fairly short range weapons

it would be a quite different experience to anything else, more like fighter jets with machineguns

and you see the angled firing mechanism at play, they have to lock on to get a good shot and you can see how the blasters can shoot off angle, the models have various dishes in place around most weapons that would enable this kind of deflection through some kind of EM effect

they also have shields, deflector shields in the movies don't seem to work like regular energy shields, more deflecting incoming fire than plain blocking it

so there's a lot going on in star wars that would be unique, and will never be in a game of any kind

>>125895885
the point is holding something in stretched hand is less precise than laying something on a table, muscles vibrate slightly

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>>125895938
ever play the old x-wing games? alliance is the most recent and modern in feel and player mods have made it pretty easy on the eyes for a 20 year old game

>>125896156
no but from what I've seen it's just wing commander with a star wars skin, wing commander is good but really arcadey

>>125896079
>stretched hand

You're holding the stick wrong (twss).

Look down in the game. See how the controls are laid out?

Not outstretched. Also, armrests.

>>125896358
You know what I mean, it takes some force to hold the stick in position, regardless of how you hold it, so it will be less precise than a body at rest like a mouse

>>125896231
yeah they're 100% arcadey and imo the combat is even shallower than elite. i'm not sure what deeper space combat would look like though, given the nature of space as a field. what makes atmospheric flight sims work is having to deal with inertia, gravity, and altitude in considering your maneuvers and tactics. space sims necessarily simplify all of that and what you end up with is turn and burn

>>125896079
less of a factor than you think, honestly. with a good hotas i can keep basically any dedicated fighter on something's back for as long as i wish. an intuitive input model and easy access to all commands at once is more significant imo

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>>125887783
I made a terrible mistake even responding, now I'm more mad than ever

>>125896561

"Deeper" space combat sims are either jousting matches or turreting depending on how the weapons work.

QCQ got 50 levels x 8 because of prestige ranks

LEL NOBODY IS PLAYING THAT SHIT

top kek you literally can't level up because of ded QCQ

>>125896507

A mouse is more precise. I suggest using one for the interdiction minigame because of how it works.

I'm only addressing your lack of upper body strength and/or poor taste in joysticks.

>>125896953
>QCQ

Qlose Cuarters Qombat?

>>125897232


the mini game mode that they added

>>125896868
Not surprised. the only way i can picture them being made deeper is with a sophisticated model for inertia, including being able to travel at any speed with enough of a run up but having to counter that velocity with thruster input, and modest gravitational effects from nearby bodies. would probably be a righteous cunt to fly in.

>>125897285

Games with newtonian space combat exist. Those are the jousting matches, typically.

>>125893149
Yep, he was firing at me and I fired back. He hadn't hit me yet and I got the fine before my passive scan finished.

It's just annoying and ftroop is never going to change it.

>>125897496
That's retarded.

>>125896561
I guess it's not such a big problem, but I guess you need a reasonably good joystick then

>>125896561
Infinity Battlescape looks the closest to real OT star wars flight mechanics of any game I've seen so far. Some of the shots from preview gameplay could be taken straight out of ANH or ROTJ.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7tfQdwmQQU

These Cut the Power missions are great, never made cash this fast before

>>125897704
i just realised how much better the planets in elite are

>>125898558
can't fault them for the generation for sure

What happens if the srv you're in asplodes? Do you die like normal, and have to pay full insurance?

>>125898934
lel

this I want to know

>>125898934
>>125899002
you get back to your ship, and you have to re-buy the SRV

>>125897284
yeah, cqc

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>>125899091


wow, that is a nice cuck thing.


>>125899142
'exept nobody plays it

>>125899260
are you alright man, can you communicate without memes

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>>125899260
yee
>>125899870
>communicating without memes

Where is fun in that...

>>125899091

...so no real consequence at all, really?

Time to practice my hektik skidz, then.

>>125900489
That's one of the things I really like about elite, you can just fly out and if you die you're set back a bit but you can just rebuy and try again. It makes it a lot less intimidating and fun.

>people are being carebears despite this

Is Robigo still worth it?

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>>125900073


wew lad
we r leeegun :D


I'm sure forumdads love memes

How about we spam their forums with memes and shit

>>125900928
kinda sorta

just don't get scanned

>>125900928

not much they killed it because they felt it did not live up to vision standards

>>125900638


none of this would happen if all wasn't focused on money
If missions weren't bugged
If payloads were worth it
If grind was not omnipresent


If there was [spoilers]content and fun[/spoilers]

>>125900928
For me it is, just made 20 mil for about the same amount of time of work. Just be sure to go into solo to dock, get missions there, then swap over to Open and get more missions before heading out. Also try to save ones that involve full stations when you can, in case you don't want to just be a shitter and force close you can get scanned on your way out.

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>>125901402

R I P R O B I G O
I
P

R
O
B
I
G
O

never 4 get all those interdictions

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Is this job even possible?

>>125902000


you don't even got the required rank to take it

Drop it anon....

>>125902000
>200k for almost 200 tons of fish
There are so many better uses for cargo space. Who does FD honestly expect to do these missions?

>>125902342
forumdads

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wat do?

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>>125902662
I destroyed his power.
How do I loot his ass? Communicate? Extort?

>>125902082

Nigger I dont think a SHIP that can do that job even exists.

>>125902835

call his princess a whore and shoot him in the face

too bad it's an NPC

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>>125903026

>>125903226
>400 Cr bounty
fucking lel

>>125903226

>that dialogue

TOP KEK

>>125902835
you blow up the cargo hatch to loot

>>125903226
wow m8 u such a memester

>get interdicted while fuel scooping
>it's a shieldless diamondback
>I have no cargo

Killed that fucker hard. I'm still mad.

>>125903226
>memeing an npc

>>125902000
>>125902862
the type-9 can equip a single cargo rack for 250 tons

>>125904616
kill throttle and put your back to the star

>>125904842

>(outpost)

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There must be more to live for

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>refinery and cargo hold are different tabs now

>>125902862
python can land at outposts for some fucking reason

>>125905030
python can dock at outposts right? you can fit it for something like 260t of cargo without even dropping shield generators

>>125905587
most outposts have medium sized landing pads, some have large landing pads too if you did not know already

Why do all these new ships suck? They're all too expensive for their meh stats that are only marginally better than a cobra.

>>125905113
Grind all ranks to max
Reach 1 bullion

>>125905356
>refinery and cargo hold are different tabs
>takes two use actions to enable or disable ship modules
Is this the worst update in history?

>>125907052
They're all so that forumdads have an alternative to their end game Cobra's.

>>125906002
Yeah I know I meant it more in the sense that why the fuck is Python medium size

>>125907810
because it fits on a medium pad?

Anyone want to spoonfeed the new method of grinding Empire rank the quickest? Its taking forever now that you cant stack missions by quitting.

>>125903470
how do I do it softly without blowing him up?

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>>125907519
Sure as fuck is, take your fucking potato planets back, Brabo!

>>125908130
It fits on medium because it's medium. Why is it medium. Like with the stats it has and the actual size. Feels significantly larger than a T6. Clipper needs large pads but Python doesn't. Just seems really weird/inconsistent

>>125908504

WHO THE FUCK CARES

it's seriously like you are begging for a nerf

seriously ask for a dragon dildo strapon goddamit, it's like you are asking to be violated by vision

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>>125908702
I could go for one

But really, it's a dumb little facet of the game, and tacked on with everything else it just comes out as pants on head retarded. Not that I won't use it long as it lasts, just like Robigo runs or fucking with forum dads trying to come through the mail slot.

http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=70_,,2-6uBaB6BaA0Ba9s,0DI0DI0AA0AA0AA08c08c07205U

r8 my ships

http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=70g,,2-8S8S7_6u6u8S8I,0AA50e05U05U05U03w03w

http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=70g,,2-8S8S7_6u6u8S8I,0AA50e05U05U05U03w03w

http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=706,,2-BaBa9Y8SBaD88I,0Bk0AA0AA0AA08c08c50y07207207203w

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>>125908504
Clipper's huge bro, it fills out the large pad pretty well, it just doesn't feel big because Ftroop made it really fast and agile. Also the T6 needs a medium pad because Lakon ships are taller than other similarly sized ships.

Pic related it should give perspective.

http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=702,7sh7sh4wt4wt3wA3gY,316Q6Q6Q5K4s4s6k,7RA15O9tu12G0Iw2Uc


I want to fight, is this a good cobra or should I go with vulture?

>>125909768
For solely combat, better to go with a Vulture instead

>>125910265


please do the outfiting, I got 300M money

>>125908702
I made a passing comment and you asked me to explain it. I'm not asking for shit you retard. You didn't understand what I meant and then act like I was saying way more than I was when you ask for explanation after explanation. I don't give a fuck about it being medium sized. As I said before, it's just weird

>>125910341
Shield and pulse lasers, a rank everything except life support and sensors at d rank.

Fit whatever else you want in utility slots and shield cells if u want.

>>125909679
Wow yeah it's big as fuck god damn. Didn't realize FdL was that small either

>>125909679
>Clipper
>Not having its wings retract in during docking to fit on a Medium pad

>>125909679
So when are they putting out the Imperial Vulture the Adder Explorer and Orca Gunship variants?

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>>125911694
Wish the clipper had the sharper look of the Courier from FE2 and FFE. And the retracting engines.

>>125902000

Trade Python can do it.
Kind of a shitty payout for something requiring a 80mil ship though.

>>125911862
Hopefully never. Variants were a shit idea. They're either useless or render the original ship obsolete. That and they look bad.

Class 3 frag cannons now hold 90 shots instead of 30

They're still kinda shit though.

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>>125903226
>laser mounted on the left
>multican on the right
>HUD shows the opposite

>>125913227


>he doesn't know that you can assign left or right click to your weapons so that config is possible

test

If I die in space, will I lose my credits, or are they stored somewhere automatically?

>>125914173

You don't carry physical money with you. It's a bank balance.

>>125914173

they are stored somewhere, but you have to pay a fee if you want to get your shit back and not go back to a sidewinter

It would be horrible if you had to start all over again

>>125914315
>>125914330
Thanks, good thing I'm still in a sidewinder then

Can you move parked ships?
Without selling the one you're in or parking it.

>>125914173
Look on your rightmost panel, bottom left of it should say "Balance". Those are "banked" and therefore safe.
If you have credits in the bank: Safe
If you have bounties you haven't turned in: Lost
If you have cargo you haven't sold: Lost
If you have powerplay contracts you haven't redeemed: Lost

>>125908504
>>125909190

The Python just barely fits the medium pad lengthwise. Look at one that's docked. It's pretty much the upper bound of what a med pad can take.

The Clipper is fuck-off huge and wouldn't fit a med pad even if you cut the wings off.

T6 isn't all that big. In fact it's almost small enough to fit a small pad.

>>125914548
When they add ability to dock smaller ships inside big ships you could probably pay one of the forumdads to transport your ship

>>125914760
Damn is this a new cloak module in game?

>>125914548

Not at this time.

People use stripped-down haulers as taxis if they need to shift ships around.

Any good places to farm ranks for the glorious Federation? I have enough money to buy the corvette, buy can't because of vision.

Does anyone know where they're selling a goddamn Fer-De-Lance in Li Yong-Rui space? I've looked at every fucking system listed on the wiki page where they say it's being sold, and not a single fucking station has had one. I've got enough money to buy it and upgrade, provided I can get the thing at a discount, so where the hell is it?

Or should I just say "fuck it," buy a Python at a discount and outfit it for exploration?

>>125914941

but that is still a waste of time anon

>>125915010
>Python
>Exploration

109 Piscium had a FDL in the shipyard when I was there two days ago.

>>125908367
don't think you can, you'd have to be very precise, gimballed lasers or something, but he would need to have more health I think

>>125914881
When is that?
>>125914941
Is there a good spot to park?

>>125915189

I'll go take a look, thanks bud.

>>125914548

>FD adds this feature
>it takes a literal 24 hours for the ship to move

>>125915183

IDGAF if it's a waste of time or not.

If you need to move ships around without selling them off and rebuying elsewhere, that's the only way.

>>125915351


>not having just one ship you use.

>>125915236
>Is there a good spot to park?
Ray Gateway

>>125914881
>pay one of the forumdads to transport your ship
Yeah. Right. Frontier would never allow the vaguest semblance of a service economy in their perfect sandbox.

>>125915312

Found it, thanks again folks.

Unrelated question, since I'm still here- what's the best late-game ship for long-term exploration? I've mostly been bounty-farming so far.

>>125916431
>ASP
or exploration fitted conda.

>zipping around in my vulture grinding up rank in powerplay
>doing crime sweeps
>get up about 200 points
>all the fucking NPC allies disappear and 9 ships instantly focus on me
>4 of them have plasma accelerators
Well that was a waste of an hour and 700k.

http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=70g,,2-5K6u7_6u5K8S6k,52W7RempW0nE

Please rate my Taxi ASP

>>125915351
>>125915183

>>125917860
>12 fucking million
Or you could just spend 200k and have a taxi hauler that is pretty much the same or better

>>125917986


>12 fucking million

Jokes on you I got 800 M in assets.

>>125917986


4T of Fuel for Hauler?

No thanks.

>>125918284
Just grab fuel tanks

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Hi guys,

Can anyone help out with what I should upgrade / aim towards next?

Thanks

>>125918389

lel

Sorry but no, I got plenty of money I can afford some ship with huge range for my taxi, your hauler will do what, one or two jump before it needs fuel scoop reload, or even worse, dock to refuel.

Disgusting.

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>>125918547
Hardpoints

>>125917860
I'd rather taxi ships with this. Only 275k credits and range of 275 ly with 25ly jump range. Fuel scoop for long range.
http://coriolis.io/outfit/hauler/02D2D2A1D1D1D2C17--2v-f2-.Iw19A===.Aw19A===

>>125918728
nobody cares retard

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>>125918901
forgot to remove pulse weapon.

>>125919013

you mad? Maybe you can't afford that yet. sorry

Is the Keelback any good?

>>125918547
D rank your sensors for more range.
D rank your thrusters for more range.
Buy 16 cargo capacity cargo racks where you have the 8's. see how you have E3 in size 4 slots?
D rank your shield gen.
>>125918770
what the hell man, buy gimballed multicannons if your gonna get gimballed lasers.
Put a chaff in the empty utility mount.

>>125919213
>hey guys rate my taxi
>here's a cheaper alternative
>LOLOLWMAOYDUMADBRO? IM FUCKING LOADED I CAN AFFORD THIS RETARDEDLY INEFFICIENT LOADOUT YAMADYAMAD?

Fuck off, retard.

>>125919449

maybe, but mine is superior, better reload fuel scoop, shield, better range, can even add scanner's n stuff.

Sorry again you can't afford it

>>125918728
http://coriolis.io/outfit/hauler/02D2D2A1D1D1D2C---f3f32of1.Iw19A===.Aw19A===
It has a range of fucking 641 LY before it has to refuel, and is only worth 500K, and thats because of the fuel scoop. Thats a fraction of the price of your asp.

>>125919556
So you aren't making a taxi, you are making an exploration ship.

>>125919556
Who gives a shit? The entire point of a taxi is to get you to a ship your rather fly then sell it, so why bother spending that much money on it?

>>125919556
The point of a hauler taxi is to sell it when you arrive at the destination to switch into your other ship and fly that to the main location.

Selling your asp will cost you 10% of the hull, which if you don't care about then good for you but I think it's not worth it over the hauler.

>>125919556
You're the one jerking yourself that you're spending 12 mil on disposable ships like it matters when there isn't fucking much to do beyond your first 10 mil in this game anyway.

There's so many better games if you're trying to wank your autism over.

>>125918901
>>125919601
You can also buy these almost anywhere, where as with the asp you have to find a decently equipped station.

>>125918547
>>125918770
FSD and power distributor.

>>125919771
>>125919783
>>125919841
Stop responding to that autistic troll.

>>125919601


641Ly with base 20 LY jump

the asp has 37 ly jump so of course it's not compared rightly, He should have the option to compare in base 20 LY jump. I do think the Asp would win.

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>>125919841
> there isn't fucking much to do beyond your first 10 mil in this game anyway.

Right in the feels.
Am I autistic for still playing that game?

Good God, this FDL is comfy.Fast as hell, Heavily armed, and it still turns like a fucking dream.

I have to say, though, my favorite part is the cockpit. Just the fact that it offers so much visibility to the sides is fucking fantastic. I think I'm in love with this thing.