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H-hey man edition

>Whats New:
Lunara released
Patch notes: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/19981657
Data mined: http://www.heroesnexus.com/news/1568-heroes-patch-39595-datamined-changes-greymane

>where do I find you meme-loving faggots
/join /vg/

>What hero should I buy?
Find the ones you enjoy playing and buy those. Don't buy cheap heroes just to get into Hero League, it's not worth rushing into.


>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/
General News: http://www.heroesnexus.com/
Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/
Free Hero Rotation: http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/13604571130
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>>125709425
>precisely
i use this word too often
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So Lunara is 5/10 so meh it hurts.
Greymane possible 4/10.

Blizzard pls.
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ded
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>>125710348
>bronze: the post
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>>125710348

Greymane has 50% more HP than Lunara and actually moves faster than her most of the time and is more effective at waveclear and poke - his Q at 16 becomes an unavoidable enhanced Flamestrike and does very respectable damage throughout
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oh boi the shits start again
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>>125710348
is it already time to start shitposting about how vision is "totally useless"?
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>>125710792

>more effective at poke.

Now you're talking straight out your ass, son.

It takes a lot of talents to get greymanes ranged damage good, and health pool aside he has almost no sustain.
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Li Li is alright.
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>>125711361

No, instead it's shitposting about how pisspoor Lunara's waveclear is, how awkward her movement is and how easy she is to kill

>>125711547

Throwing 800+ damage in a large area every 9 seconds is hardly poor poke, especially the speed at which the projective gets thrown. Also most assassins don't really have sustain unless they talent into First Aid, shield talents (ignoring KT's which is standard) or otherwise.

Also not like theres anything more reliable to talent Greymane into against most teams.
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I like taking Jump against Zeratul and melee in general. It helps get you out of their dive easier. Zeratul might target you but he doesn't have the burst that he used to. If you Jump on him right as he's blinking you should jump over to him anyways, combined with your W slow he won't be able to get away unless he blows his VP, and VP for one Jump charge is a great trade. It's also good for bullying supports who aren't Tassadar or Uther.

I usually take vines against Nova so I can poke her out of stealth easier, hitting her with Q can be tough. Vines+range is really good at disrupting channeled objectives.

Overall Jump is more versatile while Vines is a lot easier to get value out of.
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>>125710912
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I don't play this shit so here are two keys for a Kaijo Diablo Bundle. These are for the same thing so please only try to use one.

HSNA-SIQH-XKPA-QTDQ-YXQR-IZJN

HSNA-JRPS-INVG-JPEN-ZLLM-OGLO

Why do graphics cards never come with something I would actually want to buy...
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>>125712050
>dirt 2
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>>125712050

Neither work for some reason.
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>>125712050
>>125712330
It is supposed to be redeemable at redeem.geforce.com
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>>125707092
As expected from Commanderbronze
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>>125710912
fucking premades get rekt
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>>125710071
come on anon
>>125599920
>>125599920
making a new thread is a responsibly gotta remember to link the old one
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>>125712050
>>125712517
Claimed the second one. Thanks mate
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>>125712050
Thx mate got the first one
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Whos gonna win??
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>>125713417
A cho'gall without an uther. A cho'gall on this map. You're going to destroy them.
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>>125713417
Blue if you can win before 20. Then Red at 20 because Shadow Bolts stomps pubs and this is a "stand on the point to win" map.
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>>125713659
CC chogall. No cleanse. Win immediately. Although they don't have giant killer so that might be a little tricky.
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>>125713417

BLUE AFTER 20!
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>>125712828

>messing around with a hero and discovering bugs is now bronze

Hello tumblr, letting your feelings get in the way of rational thought again.

guys I did it I did it I baited commanderITF wait why do people still not like me? :( - you
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>>125713792
>that Gall
Embarrassing. You lucked out.
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>>125713417

Is Diablo viable now?
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>>125713792
>>125714127
>less than 6 digits of hero damage
literally thrown
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>>125713070
>>125713319
No problem. Figured someone should benefit from them rather than me just deleting them.
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>>125711821

Most RANGED assassins don't really have sustain aside from first aid, which they almost all take as a mandatory talent. Melee characters on the other hand are heavily reliant on it and have it as a general rule cooked into their base kits. Tanks can and will tear his asshole open.

You're also highly overestimating the ease with which you can poke with (fully talented) flask. While it does hit in a large area, you either bean someone with it or it exploded at its max range. That's significantly more unweildy than your average poke ability.
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XTH for superior lifefrom
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>>125714535
>I don't need the khala to know what you think..
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ASS-ANAL LORE!
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>>125714657
Why are the protoss so gay?
they are elves relatives?
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>>125713943
I got stuck in a gate as leoric while I was chasing down a shitter with 1hp. My E ended as I was passing through the gate and I got stuck. Died eventually and my ghost was also stuck in the gate
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>>125714331
Highest winrate tank in the game. I personally have 78% winrate in QM with him and 68% in HL. 180 games played with diablo
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>>125713943
Why are you so defensive? he was just making a joke about you being so shit you manage to die in try mode
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>>125714951
The khala itself is pretty gay, similar to zerg hivemind, except only kerrigan knows when a queen is getting fucked by a an overlord.
Instead, every protoss bound by it knows what two dudes are feeling while doing some raging buttsex, it's like a massive orgy forever
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>>125715303

if you think any post on 4chan is anything more than bait or trolling nowadays you're going to have a bad time

used to be different back in the day
>us oldfags huh
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>>125691362
Motherfucking when??!?
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>>125714331

oh definitely, he hits like a truck and stil be able to survive. him and sonya can really melt faces now
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>>125716094
Hopefully after Blizzard is over their phase of "every new hero must be shit"
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>quit a few weeks ago
>look into game again today because i was excited about lunara
>32% win rate

kek
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>playing butcher
>engage enemy at a good spot, making sure my team is in range and it's sometimes even 5v4 for us
>rest of the team doesn't really commit
>I get one of them to 5% hp but he then gets healed up by malf and rehgar
>die
>our nova could've ulted the target I chained at any time, or sniped them if they were in position
>our lunara is just kinda spreading her dot on anyone without committing to any kills
>our brightwing and medic don't heal enough to keep me alive, medic stimdrones me after what I'm attacking has been healed up already
>this repeats over and over in teamfights we could've won easily

feels bad
ended up feeding. Should I have just hung back and waited for the enemy to engage us instead? Because they never really did, they just harassed our buildings 24/7. We didn't have a substantial level disadvantage at first either, but we just kept getting fucked by the rehgar heal + malf tranq combo on whatever I was killing because nobody committed to fights but me.
Did my team fuck me or did I fuck myself? I'm not good at the butcher yet
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Should I play this game?
Are there any other SC marines other than Raynor?
Is there a qt Draenei character in this yet?
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>>125717773
>Should I play this game?
it's free and sort of fun
>Are there any other SC marines other than Raynor?
Tychus
>Is there a qt Draenei character in this yet?
not yet, Velen never
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>>125717773
If you like assfaggots but don't like farming, sure.

Tychus is sort of a marine. The other terran units are a ghost, medic, and tank.

No
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>>125717773
>Should I play this game?
If you feel like playing a dota-like with short matches, but no items and a talent system instead. It's very different from doto or LoL and less complex in most regards, but I still find it pretty fun. It's also free, although they're jewing people by making heroes cost gold that you get by playing the game or just paying 10 bucks (yes, per hero)
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how do I "get gud"
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>>125717646
>engaging
>as the butcher
>"Oh no the entire enemy team can burst me faster than I can burst them"
Why would you do this anon, did you have no warriors?
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>>125718602
sorry cant help you i was born gud
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>>125718653
>our nova
>Our lunara
>Our brightwing and medic

What do you think, bronzie?
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>>125718602
Learn to play Gazlowe, adter that everything is easy.
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>tfw 3 pages of unprocessed results
>tfw you only just started using this botnet
>tfw it takes up to 2 weeks to process
>tfw people look you up on this unsupported website and judge your mmr
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>>125718653
We didn't. It was a quick match.
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Why is there a malfurion in every game today? Some exploit? I can't see why else I would be seeing a malfurion in every game suddenly, they changed nothing right?
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>>125719810

double moonfire glitch
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>125717646
You talking shit about the best support m8?
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how do you take screenshots? I'm dumb.
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>>125720383

Print screen button on your keyboard

recommended to press multiple times as it doesn't work the first time usually
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>>125717879
>sort of fun
You don't sound convinced yourself anon

>>125717996
Don't like farming as in in-game farming? Because the next post says that heros are 10 bucks a pops. Shouldn't that mean the grind is ridiculous?
>>125718045
>short matches
So no 50-90 minute clusterfucks then? Less salt too I'm assuming?
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>>125720569
You get 7 free heroes a week to choose from.

You can then get each of those heroes to lvl 5 in a few games and get 500g

You get daily quests that give 300-800g.

You buy your favourite hero which is anywhere from 2-10k.

I've got every hero I like from playing <5 games a day.

>So no 50-90 minute clusterfucks then

Games over 20mins are going on too long.
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>>125721004
Don't forget the huge amounts of gold you get form leveling your account
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>>125720493
So that's what the completely black screen is about? I'm still not getting shit even after multiple tries.
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>>125720569

the salt content depends on how bad your team is fucking up.

and the hero prices are wierd the newer ones are 10 bucks while the older ones are 3-6 dollars
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>>125721418
>>125720569
>>125721004
>Not buying heroes with gold and saving real edollars for skins
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>>125721164
you have to change to not-windowed mode or something, I can;t remember
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I played League today. That game is so hollow. The characters have no personality, riot ran out of ideas so every new champion has thirty different mechanics that make no sense character wise and the game is buggy as fuck. They do nothing about it because they know they can, they don't have any real competition to force them to fix things. Death recap has been broken for years, the monetisation is downright jewish and the players don't know the meaning of the word teamwork.

The only champion in league that I enjoy playing is Sion, it's fun to be a big, slow, unkillable ball of cc, damage and testosterone. He's the last thing that makes me come back to that game. If heroes had a hero like him, I'd uninstall that piece of shit in a heartbeat.

I've spent so much money on league, quitting is pretty hard, knowing that all that money would be wasted.

Heroes of the Storm is a nice low stress alternative for me, picking a hero and queueing for some quick memes is nice. go ahead and call me a filthy casual for not wanting to touch hero league
It's so sad to see how much less popular this game is. Sure, Blizzard will never shut the servers down because it's Blizzard,but this game really deserves to be bigger. Not even Blizzard can throw huge amounts of money at a dead game.

Hold me /hotsg/, why are all the other mobas so shit?
End blog i guess
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>>125720569
He means farming as in farming gold off of creeps. This game doesn't have gold. It gives you an ingame currency after each game that lets you buy heroes, though at an extremely slow rate (it takes 1 and a half years to buy every hero right now and we only have like 45) and they're incredibly expensive when buying with real money. 10 bucks a pop, as I said.

There's a free hero rotation though so it's not like you'll never get to play the ones you'll buy, that makes it slightly more bearable. It's still the most jewish system I've seen in any game of the genre.
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>>125722056
>why are all the other mobas so shit?
It's a genre catered to the casuals. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that when the design goal is to appeal to as many normies as possible, the games turn out to be shit.
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>>125722056
>spent so much, quitting is pretty hard

The crux of this games problems. The competition has millions and millions of deeply entrenched players with years invested

Like how does a new mmo compete with wow except with 5x player base
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>>125722315
hopefully they keep the current sale pricing
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>>125722056
>I've spent so much money on league, quitting is pretty hard, knowing that all that money would be wasted.
Don't really understand the sunk cost fallacy about a fucking MOBA, I mean if you were talking about something like an MMORPG where you built characters over the years, joined guilds, etc. then yeah I might understand a sense of attachment. But a fucking MOBA? If you don't have fun playing it anymore, just like... walk away? The amount of money spent is completely irrelevant.
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>>125722056
>I played League today.
Fuck off nobody cares
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>>125722431
HotS is aimed at casuals just as much as league if not more.
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>>125722847
And it's as equally shit. Play whatever you want if you want half an hour of turning your brain off, but let's not elevate this game to some higher state because literally every normie can play and enjoy it
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>>125722056
LOL isn't a mortgage. The only investment is mental, unless you've made friends there.
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who /goodgoy/ here?

come on anon, you know you want dat sugarplump ass

>>125722847
kek, who are you kidding
league of legends removed a bunch of carryover mechanics from the WC3 days and streamlined the gameplay so that it would appeal to the more impatient people who want faster action and quickly gameplay

hots was designed to streamline that even further by removing last hitting, gold income, item purchases, you don't even have to back to upgrade your talents, and there's a fountain in each lane to help with sustain without you needing to purchase pots

hots is pretty fucking casual as it's a casual adaptation of what was already a casual modifcation
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>>125722056
>tfw your friends have sunk $1000's into LoL yet always complain about being poor
>tfw you like hots because you're a blizzard faggot
>tfw only spent $6 on this game since alpha
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>Pick murky
>Nova farms you for GP stacks all game.

Just makes it all the sweeter when you fuck her shit up in one octograb.
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>>125722775
I've spent 4 years playing league, met cool people there, banged a chick I met in game, unlocked all the champions with the in game and sometimes real currency. Sure, you don't play a character in there anymore, but you still get attached to your account and memories related to it.

>>125722826
Thanks for your invaluable input. You have opened my eyes.
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>>125723071

and honestly? i think its for the better everyone can get fed as hanzo and just fuck over the entire team 1v5 theres more.
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>>125722826

Some people take their time to create useful and interesting posts on 4chan.

Some, like this anon here, do not.
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>>125722665
...it's blizzard in 2015. Do you really have any hope?
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>>125723610
Our game is dead enough already, we should be cunts to each other to turn even more players away from the game.
>>125723639
I still hope that extending the sale is some sort of a test so they can see if the increased sales generated by lower prices got them more income than the regular prices. There's no way they wouldn't make the sale permanent if it made them more money in the long run.
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>>125724118
>>125724118

>Our game is dead enough already, we should be cunts to each other to turn even more players away from the game
>implying people who find out about HotS first come to /hotsg/ to find a welcoming and accepting community with open arms and free blowjobs
fuck off
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How do you use Hotslogs? It seems crazy inconsistent. Is it because I'm a sub-bronzie? It catches some games but not nearly anything I can use as a log.
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>>125724251
You download their botnet and it uploads all your replays for you.

It's only catching games that someone in your games uploaded already.
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>>125724251
do you play ranked?
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>>125724251
do this
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>>125724118

>Our game is dead enough already, we should be cunts to each other to turn even more players away from the game.

I don't think you realise just how unwelcome you are on this website if this is what you think is acceptable behaviour.
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>>125724418
Yes and terribly. I'm working my way towards 100 wins. 7 left!

>>125724431
Thank you.
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>>125724539
upboat
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>have a win streak of 5 games
>suddenly, every game I play is our team of solo queues vs a team where 5 people are in a party
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>>125724745
see >>125711945
Those parties are worse than your team to compensate for coordination.
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Is everyone enjoying the new specialist?
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>>125725272
>thinks specialist = siege damage
B R O N Z E
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Just came back from the cinema, should I go QM and tell people the big spoiler from Star Wars if we lose?
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>>125725272
>rank 26
Everything looks normal.
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>>125722056
>go ahead and call me a filthy casual for not wanting to touch hero league

Eh i think you are doing the healtly thing, but even tho HL is not that stressing.
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>play Zagara to level her since I have a stimpak
>get put with 5 randoms against a 5 stack designed to fuck Zagara in the ass
sick matchmaking """"""""""""""""""""""""""""fix""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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>>125725272
>tfw away for a week
So how is she?
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>>125723136
Wait, it what you can spend so much money in Lol?
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>>125725943
>playing QM
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>>125725978
for reference, there was a skin that recently game out, the arcade riven skin (?) that required you pay $20 for the RP to purchase it

the DJ Sona one also required $20 for the RP

it actually cost like $12, but you can't just buy that amount of RP, you buy them in $5, $10, $20, etc. chunks, so you have some leftover after each purchase

so you feel like you should keep spending until you're able to use up all your RP, "i have 450 RP left over, and there isn't anything i want at that range, so i'll buy $10 more RP and use the total to buy something else"
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>>125726312
>playing Zagara in HL
>playing vs AI
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>>125726372
>Not playing one of the best heroes in HL
Spotted the bronzie
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TYCHUS BUFFS WHEN
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>>125725606
just drop em here senpai
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Ok so is it wrong to want to clear two siege camps before an objective(infernal shrines)?

They were definitely going to take two walls and possibly two forts if the fight when on long enough. I was the healer and no one wanted to defend so they all just team fought without me and got wiped. I pinged to defend 3 times and no one came.
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>>125726534
7 weeks.
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>>125726372
Zagara Nydus carried me to rank 1. Doesn't fly so much anymore at 3.5k mmr but if the enemy team is uncoordinated I still go for it.
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>>125724382
Is it really a botnet?
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>>125727402
no
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>enemy chen starts taunting me because he went with an unkillable build
>his team starts losing promptly
That's what happens when you start being a faggot. He was in a stack of 4, too, and we were all solo.
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>Play Raynor
>Win so hard you carry even Rank 1s
Found my meme
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>>125726854
Are you saying you wanted to clear camps so they would push for you, or the enemy had camps that were pushing into you at the same time the objective was out? If the first you're retarded, if the second it depends on the time and how far behind you are. Forts honestly don't mean that much past 10 minutes. The safe answer is stick with your team. If your team wants to go full retard you need to follow.
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>>125727713
>Going shield unkillable as Chen when you could be going mass cc and wrecking Spell based assassins

He deserved to lose
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>>125726501
>other team picks Tyrande or Kael'thas
>lose
sounds awesome
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>>125726330
The trick here is to get the skin you want and then sit on your rp like a miser until a skin you like goes on sale a year later

Problem is most people have no self control
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>only two matchmaking rules are support vs support and parties vs parties
>warrior vs warrior gets added
>party vs randoms everywhere
"players wouldn't understand more than 2 matchmaking rules" -Dustin "Ben Brode laughing" Browder
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>helping friend level his acct in QM so we can do HL
>MM gives us figurative as well as literal retards to carry
>Be as friendly as I can be since I assume these are new players
>no one listens to pings or chat while still complaining that they died
>so pissed I had to post to my blog on a Laotian hopscotch forum
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I want Johanna to peg me!
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>>125711821
You also forgot how shitty wisp is.
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>>125726983
Teach me senpai
i always miss maws so might as well learn to use the ult you can't miss
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who here /pandalover/
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>>125728152
We actually had a lunara and a kael on our team, he could've been wrecking those all game
never even tried
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>>125728304
It's not an excuse for a system that forces you to spend more money than you want to spend to get things you want.
Like the recent "snowdown shop" that gives you discounts on 6 random skins. Sure you can get that skin 70% off and only spend 170 riot points but the lowest amount of riot points you can purchase is 400 or 440 i forgot and there are no skins that cost less than 520 RP.
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>>125729279
no one
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>>125728835
>Not Sonya
>Not Hammer
>Not Zagara

>But Johanna
What's wrong with you?
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>>125729279
Panda posters are asleep right now. They have to get ready for school in the morning.
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>>125728127
Yeah second. I just didn't want a 2 forts taken so early in the game so we could easily defend against a punisher. Guess I should've stuck with team but we still had 20 seconds to defend before the objective started and still no one wanted to defend didn't get it.
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>>125729754
Speaking of Pegging and alien mommas, who do you think would be top in bed? Anub'arak or Zagara?
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>>125729754
>Wanting unwashed barbarian to touch you
>Wanting Zagara to put zerg larvae inside you and have them consume you.
>Implying Hammer would peg you
we all know she loves to be tied up and molested

>not wanting to let the only pure girl make sweet tender love to your butthole

I think you need to reconsider your choices in life.
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>>125730709
Oh Look, A Flower
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>get my 15 game stimpak
>every match after that is unwinnable thrown at minute 0 bullshit
bravo Blizzard
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>>125730843
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>>125729279
Me

Still trying to get Chen to rank 10 so I can get the Dual portrait.
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>>125730843
Does your mother know you're still awake?
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how do I get track of how many "bonus" point I have at rank 1?
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>>125731106
you don't, bonus points and ranks are shit systems
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>tfw your best friend who you play hots with is falling behind you in the skillgap

I want to play with you bro but I also want to win
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>>125729091
Works on BHB, Garden of terror and Sky temple mostly. You have to go full split push build for it to have any value so your play style has to change a lot. Won three games in a row today partially down to infest catapults since it will catch a lot of people out. As soon as you've taken one keep down to your split pushing you know you're pretty much going to win. In team fights since you don't have maw and will have battle momentum spam your abilities on one target like usual and with maps like infernal shrines it means you can just tunnel away and come back with full mana in a short amount of time.
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>>125730709
>we all know she loves to be tied up and molested
Huh, that does explain why all the Hammers on my teams enter siege mode in the middle of the enemy team and get brutally violated.
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>>125731281
>tfw your only friend who plays HOTS with you is in negative MMR.

Every QM is like a comedy act because of the disparity in MMRs.
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>Play QM and HL with ETC
>QM is great, fun team comps with random heroes that always have a Lunara on the roster
>mfw my Lunara doesn't understand she shouldn't be in front of the Warriors
>mfw Lunara keeps getting snagged by Stitces in front of towers
>Start playing HL
>start stressing because team fretting over Team comp
>just pick ETC because I can peel and bodyblock with him
>First match was squashed pretty bad, enemy team had lots of damage and LilLi and Tassadar as support
>Our team's Zeratul couldn't land kills
>mfw Morales would hearth back to mana up instead of use healing fountain right next to her
>Second match went in our favor, no Support, lots of Damage and Health
>mfw win the Spider Queen Tomb with boss Golem
>mfw we snagged the boss golem TWICE
>mfw ETC was responsible for all by 5 assisted kills

God Damn E.T.C. is a satisfying character to play as!
But I'd like some opinions, should I build my ETC to promote enemy disruption by powering up the PowerSlide, or should I increase my Guitar Solo so that I can help support my team when a Healer isn't around?
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here is a post for you dead game blizzdrones
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>>125731296
where do you hide your nyduses? they get pretty obvious after the enemy notices you chose that ult and if you put them too close to your base, well they kinda lose their purpose
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Have all let Artanis into your heart.

Please Blizzard all I'm asking for is for Q to be quicker now.
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>>125731020
Your mother knows I'm still up
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>>125731812
My mother hates pandas. She said they are fat and dumb.
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>>125730709
>That look
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>>125732003
LiLi isFAT and DUMB
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>>125732138
>>
>want to play Abathur
>Build an Illidan comp
>Illidan, medic, meme slug, Diablo and a Nova to destroy their Lunara.
>game goes pretty well except for the fact that Illidan attacks their Leoric and Diablo while they're being healed by enemy Morales
yes it was qm who in their right mind would build an Illidan comp in hero league with randoms
>Illidan can solo the big garden terrors that spawn at night with a hat on so we can send him to one of the two while the team stalls at the second one and then win the fight once Illidan joins because lol adrenaline overload stim Illidan
>spam terrors and wreck the enemy team
>suddenly Illidan disconnects and Illidan bot uses his abilities on cool down ruining the point of attack speed buffs by spamming q
>Nova becomes the buff target and does surprisingly high amounts of damage with anti armor + attack speed buffs
>she disconnects
>Diablo gets to slap people very rapidly
>he disconnects too
>hatted Morales and stimmed Abathur defend core
>lose
The fuck?
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>You sign up for Quick Match
>God damn Allied Artanis - Again
>You're fed up with this shit
>But whatever you decide to try anyhow
>Artanis you better not fucking suck you say
>Artanis calmly replies, just follow me, and I will get you kills
>You think great- That's super fucking easy, ill just follow Artanis
>First kill, you're near Artanis but since you've got absolutely no idea how his hero works, you're further back
>He swaps the easy kill Lunara
>Lunara right there, right near you, but just out of range of all of your spells
>You turn back, the fight is already lost- Artanis was out of position
>Shit fucking Artanis
>I knew he would throw this game
>Artanis starts blocking Lunara like a pro
>Lunara, on 30% life manages to finally get inside the gates
>Artanis, still on 10% life hits the towers once to recharge his shields and gets out
>This entire time you're pinging him out on the map
>Wow, what a fucking scrublord suiciding like that
>Artanis walks out with 10% life and a shield
>In chat you ask "What shitty fucking play was that?", you reply after dealing zero damage to the Lunara
>You open up the score screen and calmly click the report button, intentional feeding- yep that's about right.
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>>125732509
Does this look like the face or mercy
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>>125733137
Who in their right mind would build an Illidan comp at all?
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>>125733357
Someone who's desperate to play Abathur without feeling like he's making the game 4v5
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What build would you go with as Tyrande on Dragon Shire? Just had an enemy Tyrande go full owl build + battle momentum and she was putting out mad numbers
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>play healer
>noone says thank you
yeah go fuck yourself too
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>>125735461
Don't bring that /v/ faggotry here, I play healer pretty often and I don't ask people to tank me for my job
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>>125735461
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>>125735643
Funny enough I forgot the H, and while playing healer I do need people to Tank me so i can do my job
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>>125735461
Just what just general needed, more meme posting low iq derp scrubs.
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>>125735461

>>>/v/
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Been playing some matches and I'd like to show everyone what it looks like to play at the very bottom of MMR.
Here's my HotsLog: http://www.hotslogs.com/Player/MatchHistory?PlayerID=696891
Constructive criticism welcome.
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>>125730939
Glad you could make it Arthas.
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>>125736181

>look at the most recent game

>Lunara, Nazeebo and Demolitionist RoboGobo beating zero-button Uther, BFG Hammer and Skullcracker Muradin

My only question is if you're one of the players there how the fuck your MMR dropped so low.
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>>125736283
I watch my tone with you, old man. I may be the prince, but you're still my superior as a paladin.
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>>125736181
Not enough Chen.
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>>125736283
PANDEMONIUM
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>>125736181
>very bottom of MMR
>not even negative

gtfo faggot
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>>125731553
>dead game

http://venturebeat.com/2015/12/15/how-heroes-of-the-storms-esports-scene-surges-into-2016/
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>>125736181

>your played hero pool is literally LiLi, Tassadar, Nazeebo, Chen, KT and Nova

Get some more proper heroes, especially ones that can carry shitters. Jaina, Zagara and playing more than one game of Raynor would be more than advisable.
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what
the
actual
fuck
match
making
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>>125736903
>quick meme
who cares
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>>125731490
>playing muradin with a damage rewind build and haymaker
>enemy lunara keeps doing this dumb shit where they run after people to poke them and hit them 5 times
>stun her and knock her into our team a few times
>at 20 she gets sprint
>at this point I just solokill her with rewind from 100 to 0
who plays this shit hero without greater spell shield?
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>>125736181

>600+ games
>sub 1K MMR

The fact you've literally only ever played seven heroes more than once is a blessing in disguise. Make a new account and start again, and if you're genuinely shit you'll end up at that MMR twice.
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>>125736569
Shut your mouth, before I shut it for you!


>>125736537
As if you could forget.
Arthas, there's something about the plague I should know. ...Oh no, it's already begun. These people may look fine now, but it's only a matter of time before they turn into the Undead!
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>>125737336
wow has pretty bad graphics holy shit
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>>125731557
You can't really...except on battlefield. Its just for escaping in essence. If you have creep placed in the important places you can place another one in quick succession and start split pushing again. You can't place it in hidey holes like murky's eggs. So basically if I notice more than two off the map I place another hydralisk and play cautiously if I haven't taken all the structures I wanted yet. If I see a someone you basically have to just run because you'd normally be drained of mana by this point.
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>>125737463
Yeah, Dota 2 is kinda ugly. But the fans are like m-muh artstyle so it's somehow okay.
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>>125737602
YOU'RE kinda ugly
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>Leave bottom lane because there's 2 healers and a warrior there
>Tyrael is fine alone, he can just soak EXP, won't die
>Tyrael follows me mid
>Go back bottom to soak instead
>Follows me bottom

Why am I playing this shit game?
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>>125738325
i-it's not like I think you're cute or a-anything....b-baka!
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>My entire team goes bottom on Black Hearts Bay leaves me to soak two lanes.
>As Lunara.

They then complained about me not being bottom for sick ganks or something.
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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>>125738582

Maybe next year.
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>>125738582
who?
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>>125738450

>They then complained about me

Yeah I'd complain if I had a Lunara as a teammate too.
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>>125738582
who?
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>>125738819
It was quick match and it was when I was trying her out. Every game still has two of her.
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>>125738582

who is Maiev?
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>>125738714
>>125739056
>>125739212
I think he means Zeratul
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>>125739196

I knew that, and it's perfectly fine you're testing stuff in QM. I was just being awkward on purpose because I can post anonymously and there's a live audience to play to. at least I'm honest!
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>>125739703
suck my dick !!

climb that ladder anon!
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>tfw you cover entire enemy team with sindragosa and wipe them all
i know army of the dead is better for tanking but i just cant not take the best looking spell in the game.
also
>tfw 36% winrate on arthas in HL
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>>125739906
arthas is pretty bad

i'd rather have a good rexxar
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every time i pick lunara i feel like i would be able to do so much more with raynor or valla or thrall or kt or jaina or w/e
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>>125740002
>good Rexxars
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>>125740097
i've found she's ok on the maps where there's a lot of ability to poke the enemy over objectives

cursed hollow seemed like her best map
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>>125740189
ye
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Who /losingstreak/ here? Nine in a row for me, every game I've played since the patch. What's your tally?
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>>125740189
>le rexxar is bad meme

every time I pick rexxar fags like you talk shit, until I subsequently carry you with most xp
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>>125740405
There are good Rexxars anon, they're just really rare.
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>>125740405
rexxar is not a hero everyone is good at so it's more likely than not a bad rexxar
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>>125740002
im good at both, rexxar is kinda strange in a way that he does a lot of cc but the bear doesnt provide enough attention or something, and rexxar himself is just a bird spam bot, oh and there is this dumb antimerc/soloboss build that straight out loses the games.
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R1 master league here


Rexxar is mid tier. I put him over ETC, Johanna, Stitches, and Chen.
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>>125740624
I found this with Vikings. Legitimately any time any one has them, they're generally pretty decent players.
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>>125740002
Arthas is great in gank comps and when you have another warrior. I wouldn't pick Arthas as a solo warrior just like I wouldn't pick Rexxar.
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>>125739906
sindragosa + ring of frost best combo
arthas + jaina is extremely fun
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>>125740696
i would pick kerrigan in gank comps with another warrior 100% of the time over arthas
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>>125740696
The pub meta is so stupid right now. Double Warrior, with one as a DPS warrior and one as a durable warrior is almost the best for pub stomping. Obviously you want some healer too but the over all

2 Warrior
1 Healer
2 ranged DPS strat

basically is king. If the range DPS have something to zone players off healers then its even better, for example Valla has her Ultimate stun and Falstad has gust (though sometimes taking gust in a pub is a bad idea)
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>>125741035
>(though sometimes taking gust in a pub is a bad idea
only if you're not very good at gusting
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>>125740804
I would pick Arthas and Kerrigan together honestly. In a roaming team they clean up.
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>>125740678
>Rexxar over ETC
>Rexxar over Johanna

What in the fuck? I agree with Stitches, and I agree with Chen if only because you can't counter Rexxar as easily, but still, what?
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>>125741276
I wouldn't put Rexxar over Chen honestly. Scaling Changes really helped Chen. After 7 he becomes so good and with Panda Pals you can just jump on an enemy squishy and take them out of the fight.
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>Win 3 games
send help
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>>125741398
It depends on the enemy comp, really. I'd say Rexxar is probably better for a general purpose warrior, but as long as Chen doesn't have one of his big counters on the enemy team he's probably even, if not better.
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Where is the Lunara trailer?
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You're playing with a hammer who's built for AA damage and napalm, a basic poke build. Your allied Karqzim however is getting exceptionally angry with him because Hammer is engaging in open-lane teamfights in standard mode and poking, saying he should be seiging all the time. Hammer replies with the 25% splash isn't entirely reliable and it makes him a sitting duck, but the Kharazim won't have it and now your other two team-mates are joining in. Eventually the hammer player gets mobile seige at 16 and starts spending more time seiged up.

What do you do in this situation? Is the hammer right or wrong? What if the hammer has top siege and hero damage through this entire ordeal?
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>>125741569
Made me chuckle, thanks for that
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>THE HUNT IS ON
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i usually top both hero dmg and tanking with arthas, tho in this match enemy was plain retarded, they didnt even pick a healer.
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>>125741917
yet you can't get above 50% winrate on him :/
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>>125741802
The hammer is absolutely right. If the Kharazim was from this general please post his battletag so we can avoid him.
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>>125742132
i hope they'll give him some small buffs to make him somehow more survivable pre lvl 16/20
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>>125741802
Never siege unless you have Z off CD (and maybe not even then) or your not in danger or getting jumped, the extra range and minor splash isn't worth it if you die, though using siege when you know you can cover your team and not get blow up is also needed.
Basically it comes down to what is happening moment to moment on when you want to, but odds are you're better off being able to move.
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>>125741802
can't really siege up unless your team is better at protecting the tank than the enemy is at diving
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>>125741802
ideally you should be fighting the enemy team at the edge of your Hammer's sieged range, letting her pop whoever's dumb enough to advance too far or dive her
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>>125741802
Ignore team-mates do what you want. I'm not going to let some fag i'll never see again in a game I don't particularly care about tell me what to do.
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>>125741802
He picked Hammer. Assume he's wrong and move on.
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>>125742452
Ideally you utilize your 20% extra attack range and napalm to poke while staying mobile instead of hoping the other team is stupid enough to fight in your auto attack circle.
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>>125742765
>what is Graduating Range
either they fight in your circle or lose whatever you're fighting over
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What is the most well-rounded hero I can select for soloq QM? Someone that is good everywhere, all the time, on every map
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>>125743006

Tyrande
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>>125743006
tyrande
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>>125743006
Tyrande or monk

both are adaptable to be damage or more support focused.
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>>125743006
Kael'thas or Jaina.
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>Towers of Doom
>Our Core 2
>Their Core 1
>3:3 on forts

Final altar spawns bot
>epic teamfight for 1 minute
>i actually managed to get my Blessed Shield off cooldown because of how long the fight went
>only 1 person from each team alive

>our Valla, 3/4th health, low mana
>their Muradin, 2/3rd health, low mana

>Valla AAs a few times
>Muradin uses the last of his mana to leap, can't even Q or W because no mana
>Valla uses the last of her mana to Vault INTO Muradin
>they trade AAs for a bit
>Valla backs off
>starts to recall back
starts to recall back

>our core 2, their core 1
>last altar
>our Valla starts to recall back
starts to recall back

everyone pinging
>Valla has a moment of clarity
>attacks nearby mage minion
>picks up health orb for extra mana
Muradin finishes channeling altar

after game
Muradin whispers
>gg ez
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>>125743006
Muradin - great damage, mighty CC, Ults that always help in team fights, fantastic health pool
A good Muradin player will carry his QM team to victory
A bad Muradin player will still help out but may die like, twice
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>>125742864
>Sit in the back doing nothing for 15 seconds
sounds like a smart play i bet you have a very high winrate with hammer
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are the teams playing on twitch tv/heroes_hype any good?

i dont follow this shit at all
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GIVE EM SOME PEPPER
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>>125743212
>>Valla has a moment of clarity
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>>125743006
sonya and diablo
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>>125743816

Both teams are good, but playing joke comps atm.

Have to listen to the stream on mute because I can't stand Gilly.
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>>125744297
indeed :^)
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>>125743006
This is Jimmy
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>>125710071
Why does Jimmy never fight with his visor up
It looks cool and also makes sense considering it would actually like, protect from blinds and shit
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>>125744715
he-hey man
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>>125717646
Never engage as butcher. Youre not a suicide bomb like most people play him as. He can be very good in certain scenarios. His hardest counters are uther and muradin.

Basically what you want to do is wait for your team to engage, while you're skulking around in the bushes or somewhere out of vision preferably to the side of the main engagement. Then you charge a squishy, immediately chain them, autoattack then q then autoattack. Use your W when you're at about half hp. Remember that your Q resets your autoattack which is a big deal when you're hitting for 600.
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all hail the lord of terror
>>
misha shouldn't die when rexxar dies
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>>125740405
>muh xp contribution
>playing as butcher on garden
>shitter murky on my team
>2k hero dmg, never comes to get seeds, never does anything but blow up waves
>say "shitter murky, never help we lose 5v4"
>he says check my xp contribution get carried scrub
I actually won that game for team. 14 kills 3 deaths. Then our gp nova with 9 deaths says "carried" as the core is exploding
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>>125745540
o_o
you are a panda lover
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>>125741035
Gust is way better than laser
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>>125746928
gust does no damage
laser does so many damage
??????
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>>125746928
only shitters who never hit shit with the laser think that

laser is invaluable for finishing off people or lining up a 5-man laser
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xD
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>>125747207
literally only good for doecunt
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>>125747007
Gust is way better. Only shitters think laser is good.
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>>125747207
she'll get a buff once her price goes up
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>>125746803

You're just as stupid as the murky thinking your kills won you the game.

>>125747007

Only shitters who don't know how to use gust think laser is good
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>>125745776
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>>125747310
No, gust has it's uses but is fucking useless with some comps

I hate when 3 people of the enemy team dive into a gank of ours and our retard falstad gusts them away because OH MY GOD OUR MURADIN GOT LOW I HAVE TO SAVE HIM
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>>125747342
>picking off the enemy healer repeatedly before fighting for seeds didn't win the game
Lol OK m8
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>>125747459
>some people are stupid
>that means gust sucks
This is what you are saying
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>>125747569
>laser doing enough damage to kill someone who isn't fighting
of course you won when you had a 5 level lead in midgame
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>>125747407
>>125745776
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>>125747781
wow, posting your bot games
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>>125747671
Yeah in the second part
there's more than just one thing in my post
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>>125745776
>tfw you've loved dibbles forever
>you stuck by him in the hard times
>everyone was surprised when you performed well with him because everyone thought he sucked
>now everyone and their mother is playing him
>ooh wow he's actually really good
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hey guys do you think johanna needs a small buff or is she perfect right now?
also
>>125747407
would nerfing the cd on shadowstalk be enough for a nerf for tyrande?
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>>125747781
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>>125747824

> you can upload bot games to hotshots

holy shit how retarded are you
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>>125747780
Ebin troll. You do know that the enemy team gets xp for killing heroes 5v4 and using their garden terror to destroy your buildings (5v4) even if murky is getting sick siege giant value while your keep dies
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>>125748024

What's your MMR range again?

Wait don't answer I probably already know
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>>125747845
The only reason you gave for gust being bad is stupid people using it. The ability to choose when you fight on a tiny CD is insanely powerful. Bad engage? Gust
Good engage? Good. Escaping hero? Gust

Only way laser could compare is if its CD was drastically reduced
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>>125747926
git gud
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>>125748024
what the actual fuck does that have to do with killing healers with laser you spastic?
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>>125748250
I don't know if you're just blind or deliberately putting words in my mouth

I never said gust is bad, much less did I name any reason as to why it's bad
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>>125748290
wtf
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Holy fuck why do people play Artanis so poorly? Do they understand that the only way to win fights is by actually attacking?

The minute you stop right clicking people you lose literally 50% of your defences, gain no shields, and deal zero damage.

You 100% have to be sure of your self for fights you need to take and then take them and take them hard.
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>>125748312
>>125748024
>>125747780
>>125747569
I love how one of you retards is talking about murky being useless and the other thinks he's talking about falstads laser being useful

How fucking dumb can you people be
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>>125748163
>you win games as murky by doing 2k hero damage and doing absolutely nothing with the objective
>you don't win games as butcher by picking off solo heroes and ambushing squishies during teamfights

I'll take your resorting to ad hominem as a victory.
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>>125748290
nice paint job
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>it's a "/hotsg/ pretends that ever skill that doesn't do damage or stun is bad" episode
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>>125748552
It really goes to show that some people don't actually read and comprehend posts, they just respond to repeat their own point of view.
Pretty sad actually. Those same people are thinking they're holding intelligent discourse and proving someone wrong.
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>>125748552
He formatted this post >>125747780 like a retard. The greentexting is referring to falstad and the white text is referring to murky
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>>125748552
i think it's missquotes
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>>125748646
Can you point out someone in this thread who actually said Gust is bad?

Gust is really overrated, but definitely not bad. It's good for making plays if the enemy team has little mobility to begin with, otherwise laser can be the better pick if you're lacking damage
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>>125748682
Looks like you're the one guilty of not reading the posts because it clearly makes sense be just didn't reply to both posts. You just wanted to look smart by calling other people dumb.

Good work fuckboi
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>on 4chan everyone is anonymous
>arguments everywhere
>on hots everyone is named
>hiehuebeuehue meme joke no. 50000 hiehuebeuehue we all so funny n best fwends!!! Hueheuhe
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>>125748881
Mate one person is talking about himself carrying as butcher by getting pickoffs and the other guy thinks he's talking about the laser, to which the other guy responds about how useless murky was that game.
Neither of those two people gave a shit about what the other had to say, they just wanted to make sure their own argument was heard repeatedly
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>>125749062
No.

In this post >>125747342 he is arguing with murky shitter and falstad shitter. Then he replies to both in this post >>125747780 but only quotes one of them. The white text refers to murky shitter and the green to falstad
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>>125749292
>mfw I am falstad shitter and murky shitter
>mfw my (you)'s confirm this
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>>125749292
Yeah that's why the guy responding then got confused and asked what the fuck murky has to do with a laser
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>>125749436
So the confusion was misquotes not two people arguing about different things. So you were wrong. Suck it faggot.
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>>125748528
People are generally really shit at knowing when to fight where. This holds true for even high MMR games
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>>125749292

Hmm.
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>>125750179
Hmm what?
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>>125750264
You imply both posters are the same person, but only one has a (you) on it for this guy
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I'm starting to rethink that whole "Muradin and Tyrande counter Chen super hard" thing. Picked Chen into Tyrande and then they picked mura to counter but we still stomped them.
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>>125750568
Irrelevant, its obvious the post that caused confusion was replying to two posts while quoting only one.
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>>125750785
You obviously have way more Chen experience than me but I personally hate playing Chen against diablo and etc more than muradin. But if muradin ults and chases you you're pretty much fucked
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>>125750870
How is the second one replying to two things?
Look, here's how it goes:

>>125747569 is talking about his game as the butcher with murky in it, and how he picked off the enemy supports repeatedly to win that game

this guy >>125747780 is so angry he thinks he's talking about falstads laser, then questions how he would pick off anyone with the laser without a 5 level lead in the midgame

to which >>125748024 starts talking about his murky game as the butcher again

and >>125748312 then gets confused

I think you have troubles with reading comprehension mate
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>>125751289
guy who was angry about the laser here. This is correct.
I'm retarded and didn't pay attention, thanks for all the (You)'s
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>that one guy who dies literally 15 times then says "gg noobs" when we lose
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How do I git gud at deer slut?

it seems any comp with a healer on the enemy team anal fucks you.

From my experience her damage is so low and there isn't a trade off, plus your dot does so little damage that you can literally just b back and live.
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>>125751737
>tyrande dies 5 times in 8 minutes but sets up a ton of double and triple kills for us
>generally a good player and always where the action is, enemy team just kind of suicide rushes into him to our benefit
>dumbfuck nazeebo on our team refuses to do anything but splitpush during objectives because "nazeebo is a specialist do you know what that is?"
>start losing
>zeebo blames the tyrande for feeding
>nazeebo has not been a part of any kills
>any whatsoever
>didn't even kill a fort in his time splitpushing

>start winning again 20 minutes in, throne the enemy team
>nazeebo points out his XP contribution then goes "gg get carried tyrande"
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Place your bets
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>>125752275

You're fucked
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>>125752275
I don't think this one's even a competition
Ogre will die lots
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>>125752275
Rest in pepperonis.
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>>125752189
Between every attack you have to move and change targets and time it to not lose any attacks
And still be less effective than kael
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>>125751289
>>125749428
>implying falstads laser isn't only good for sniping targerts running away from you

It's literally shit unless they're <10% hp, falstad really needs an ult rework.

He's great for AA and flying around like a bro though.
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>>125752275
>playing ranked on fridays and weekends
lol
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the best butt in the nexus
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>>125752632
It really depends on your build
if you're going with a full on hammerang build with boomerang, powerthrow, gathering storm, crippling hammer and overdrive you can do some really really substantial damage from a very safe distance. All you need is to hit the hammer so it hits twice. Falstad can legitimately deal around 2400-2700 damage to anything in a straight line with that depending on your hammer stacks. From further than vision range.
Obviously wether or not this is useful depends on your comp and theirs. If we have alright sustain and the enemy has high damage heroes with little survivability, I don't think anything beats that build.
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>>125752275
the more I see of these the more I want to pick against "meta" teams
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>>125752940
too bad they put it on a lesser race
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>>125752275
oh my god i cant stop laughing
you are completely fucked anon
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>>125752338
>>125752385
>>125752463
>>125752860
>>125753031
>>125753234
We lasted longer than I expected
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>>125753027
>Gathering storm over season marksman
1dmg on your q vs 3dmg on your aa

>powerthrow
Not taking vampiric for sustain

>gathering storm, crippling hammer
>not first aid
>not static shield

Do you even falstad bro
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>>125753365
>vampiric
hello rank 40
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>>125753441
>M-muh 1s of crit every time I throw o-out my h-hammer

Falstad needs some survivability m8
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is it possible to become a big streamer in this game without viewbotting? Challenger lol player thinking about switching
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>>125752940
That's questionable, Kerrigan was evolved for breedingby abathur.
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>>125753365
Those are two different builds. I'm talking about a bursty build for when a bursty build is needed. Obviously not an AA build.
A sustain AA build is going to get you fucked in the ass if the enemy has certain heroes.

Or am I trying to explain situational builds to a person who goes with the same build every game right now?
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>>125753873
Dick status. MUH
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>>125753873
>projecting your worthless Terran values onto an enitrely different species
Reminder this is what a Zerg would find hot.
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>>125755232
>Implying Terran don't find that hot too
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>>125755301
I guess there's connoiseurs for everything, but we're talking statistical averages there.
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>>125754079
>situational builds
>implying hotslogs most upboated build isn't the only valid choice
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OUR TIME HAS COME
...AND SO HAVE I
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>>125752940
that's not Nova
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>building valla for anything but AAs
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>>125756183
Nah, Nova can't beat the Queen bitch of the universe.
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>>125756291
>Being bronze
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I'm the man who's gonna kill you one day.
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>>125752940
Tyrande is perfection
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taking art requests
can be lewd
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>>125757549
Pregnant Lili making shit
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>>125757549
sonya doing anything
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>>125757549
Johanna taking off her armor
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>>125757549
You drawing yourself drawing Johanna taking off her armor
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>>125757549
pregnant lili shitting sonya taking off johannas armor off you
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>>125757549
Kharazim punching people to heal them.
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>play Muradin
>find that hes extremely hard to kill even when focused by assassins and Sonya

So, how is it that a beginner hero like him be so strong? Also, when did they add him shouting "FOR KHAZ MODAN" when using Avatar?
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Behold, a true solo queue HL game.
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>>125758084
>Also, when did they add him shouting "FOR KHAZ MODAN" when using Avatar?
Did he ever not have that?
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>>125757549
Requesting something Kinky, with Zagara
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>>125758163
I was in Beta back then and I remember that he didnt shout that. I think I also remember people requesting for it
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>>125758084
Most of the 2k heroes are strong and solid, just see Raynor.
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>>125757995
Your injuries are less severe.
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>>125747920
her haircut needs a buff
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>>125758232
This mother fucker right here!
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>>125758509
>>
> /join /vg/
> unranked, unranked, rank 18, unranked, level 32, rank 8, unranked, unranked, unranked

These are smurfs right guys? Right?
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>>125759041
>Nothing but bronze opinions in thread
>Surprised there's nothing but bronze in game
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>>125758101
What exactly is wrong with these teams?
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>>125759095
Nothing, it's just rare to get a r1 HL game without at least one party in it.
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>>125759041
> /join /vg/
> there's no one because I'm on EU
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>>125759041
at least it's better than the reddit channel
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>>125759041
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>im a special snowflake who picks lunara in HL despite her 30% winrate, im so good with her you just trust me
he died 7 times in bot lane with kael vs muradin + abathur, after every death he wrote crap in chat implying it was somehow our fault, after pointing him out that he picked a weak hero he got buttblasted and went full retard flamemode
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>>125759424
>expecting someone named RAPTORJESUS to do well with any hero
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>>125757549
lunara flaunting her butthole
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>>125753873
Erection achieved. Must fap. Ejaculation likely. Prevent prostate cancer.
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>>125759269
>only 120 games on his favorite hero

Yeah we're way better than those guys.
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>>125759170
I'm on it bae.
Just you and me.
We can't do anything kinky though
I haven't bought Anub'arak yet.
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>>125759607
>chen
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>>125759607
o_o
you are a panda lover
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>>125759607
I'm not even mad I'm impressed
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>>125759607
>don't like any hero enough to do this
Feels bad man
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>>125759639
>>125759719
>>125759790
He's fun.

>>125759687
Just a little.
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>>125759831
What do you find fun about Chen?
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>>125759616
I'll join too if you're planning on doing a couple of matches.
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>>125759831
At least it's not Li Li
i realise that by mentioning that hero I've summoned the li li posters with their cropped porn
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>>125759963
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>>125759916
He can outduel the majority of the cast and has some of the best chase in the game. He's also one of the best tanks for diving and that's a playstyle I enjoy very much.

SEF is also a nice "oh shit" button. Managed to live with 18 life with SEF today. Probably gonna webm it for giggles.
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>>125759916
Chen is actually fun as fuck. jumps all over the place, can't be killed, sticks on targets like a mofo
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How do you even get chat silenced? I've had my way with the english language towards some people and I havent even recieved a warning. Do silenced people recruit for ISIS or something?
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>>125760123
>Gazlowe casually walking away
Priceless.
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>>125760305
>>125760123
i wish they would fix the kick bug where he doesnt actually kick through the enemy and ends up near them, not behind.
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Tank girl best girl.
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>>125761294
I don't know if they did anything in the most recent patch, but I've been getting a bunch of kickthrough in the past few days. It's secured a bunch of kills that we wouldn't have gotten otherwise.
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>>125760123
>deploying mines like they actually do anything other than grant vision
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>>125761573
its random, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt, im still getting those failed kicks occasionaly and its super annoying when i go keg build

also, bestbutt
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>>125761618
Vision is knowledge and knowledge is power.
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>>125761573
>Diablo doesn't save his stun for Chen's heroic
When will people learn how to fight Chen
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Is planting egg top but going bot (and obviously not dying) as murky a solid strategy to cover need to fast travel if team fight is gonna happen top?

I mean, sticking to bot but than die on purpose when needed to help out top fast.
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>>125761618
I did a MINE build once

I made us lose
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>>125762247
Depends on the objective, where your team and the enemy team is on the map.

You might as well play Falstad or Brightwing becuase they do it better.
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>>125756491
Why did they have to give Jimmy hair?
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>>125717360
Remember Kael launch?
Id rather not have that again..
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>>125758084
His shout is nowhere near as good as W3 one was :(
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>>125762580
i miss launching Flamestrikes 1000 units away every 7 seconds.
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>>125762641
Me too ;_;
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>>125762641
>>125763210

The first change was better. Unlimited chainbomb spreading after the bomb buff was too good
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Actually hate this artwork. What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>125763515
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>>125763515
I dislike it as well, almost as bad as Sonya
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>>125762641
>You will never Ignite a team from the safety of your base ever again.
>>
Scenario time. You are playing LiLi in QM solo. Your game loads, and your team only has 1 melee character- a warrior. What do you build instead of serpent?
>>
Where were you when you realized Lunara was ass? I was watching her lose 50% of her health from a couple of attacks from Raynor.
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>>125764975
I was playing Raynor and winning my lane with zero effort.
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>>125764804
1st 2 serpents unless spiders
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>>125764975
when the preview showed her with no health or burst and that she required constant micro
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>>125758084
he does https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGyAJH3pwas
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>>125765058
SPIDERS!
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>>125765058
Care to explain? Trying to understand Lili's build variety better
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>yfw hots is so dead smite beats in yearly mmo vote
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>>125763515
I really don't like it, I thought so when I first saw it and I still think so.
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Getting decent MMR spreads/gains. Not getting -20, -30 for losses in QM in solo and duo queue QM. I think I can hit 4k.
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>>125765948
carried hard i see
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>>125765948
>Getting 4k using OP cancer
...woah....
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>tfw getting carried by qt pro gamer girl
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>>125766571
>19 deaths
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>>125766135
>takada
>being carried
lmao
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>>125766839
t akada
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>>125752189
If your enemy team has a healer than that's the first target you should try to pick off with Lunara.
Other squishy targets like ranged Assassins should be high priority as well.

Her DoT can be stacked up 3 times per enemy, it's suggested that once you have made 3 attacks on an enemy you should change targets.

Lunara also has many talents that can improve her DoT and her basic attack, such as her lvl 1 that reveals enemies on the minimap that are effected by her stacks

I suggest having someone to tank for you when playing Lunara - most warriors have a nice CC that can give Lunara time to poke them, and her Crippling Spore ability will slow enemies down enough to get that kill shot when they're trying to run back to the fountain.

The map you're on and your team should also be taken into consideration when choosing talents. If you have a map that requires you to take objectives like Cursed Hollow, Sky Temple and Towers of Doom than taking Sprint at 20 would be a good idea.

Likewise, if your team is lacking in the seige damage department, Lunara can take a talent at lvl 7 that gives her basic attacks and DoT 200% damage against non-heroic enemies, which can be devastating against enemy towers and keeps.
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>>125767375
lunara is shit, stop trying to defend him
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>>125767375
You just described every ranged assassin in the game only instead of dot write real damage.
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You know you're in MMR hell when your Li Li is clearing a creep wave as people are fighting

Jesus fucking christ. I'm actually so done with this game. What's the fucking point when it literally gives no fucks about matching people.

>Blackhearts bay
>Have chogall, stiches zagara on our team
>Zagara says going bottom
>So top is basically 3v5 for the start
>Stiches just walks straight into the middle that's already captured by the enemy
>dies instantly

WHY DO I EVEN PLAY?
>>
>93% win rate with friend after 23 matches
>45% win rate in pubs

yeah sounds about right.
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>>125767906
Your friend is carrying you. Without him you suck.
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>>125767906
>34% win rate with friends
>66% win rate in pubs
I hate my friends
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>>125767762
Alternatives are boring MMOs, toxic league, toxic dota, expensive ass games like FO4, MGS5, Witcher 3. If you got something fun to play, i would love to hear it.

I dunno man. This game sucks though, I can't deny it.

You got shitters who can't even hit rank 1 which is and should be incredibly easy. Those same shitters should beable to hit rank 1 then differentiate themselves by playing high MMR games consistently and try to reach leaderboards.
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>>125768391
Actually, I tell my friend everything he should be doing.

and he does it.
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>>125767592
>Her real damage can be stacked up 3 times per enemy, it's suggested that once you have made 3 attacks on an enemy you should change targets.
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>>125768779
except it doesnt stack, it just extends the duration up to 3 times
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>>125768854
>it boosts the damage threefold, instead of ninefold
Okay?
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>>125768893
the difference is that aa'ing someone three times doesnt give you any more damage vs rotating targets and coming back
and hitting someone more than 3 times makes you lose damage
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>>125768779
Like I said. Instead of shitty poke damage other assassins do real damage.

Like Jimmy who can causally kill her by staring at her.
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>>125766832
>>125766832
Really?
is this bait?
>>
>>125769509
KDA
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>>125769705
>calls kills-assists-deaths KDA
>doesn't read patch notes
LeL player spotted
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>>125769763
are you american?
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>>125766571
>girl
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>>125769957
What are you implying anon?
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TYRONE PLAYERS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>125770226
She's picked like 97% of the time she needs it.
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>>125770226
>>125770397
>Lets nerf everything instead of buffing weak heroes
ebin
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>>125770226
Just nerf her R already. Global heal and stealth on less than a minute cooldown, what the hell is this madness?
Swap the cooldown of her heroics, I'd say.
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>>125770226
>>125770397
who?
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>>125770496
Buffing everything won't change the fact she's OP. It's her kit. They need to increase the cooldown on her trait and maybe her ult and change the level 20 talent. 40% increased movement speed is insane.
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i'm tired of being alive desu
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>>125770496
>let's not nerf this one hero who overshadows everyone else by a large margin
ex dee
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>>125770619
This girl
>>125752940
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>>125770606
I think her trait is way worse than her ult. Tass has a 40 second cooldown on his trait. Tyrande's should be the same.

>>125770619
Tyrande.
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>>125770721
>tyrande gets nerfed
>uther goes back to god of support
loling out loud
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Tyrande is not "OP", 80% of her usefulness hinges on whether she can position herself to land a ranged delayed stun and apply her trait. She's good in the hands of a good player and mediocre/useless in the hands of a bad player, which is perfectly fine. Despite the buff to Shadowstalk, she can't quite sustain an entire team by herself like other supports can, so her more offensive side is well balanced.
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You know, I'm curious.

http://strawpoll.me/6299115
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>>125770836
No he wouldn't because he wouldn't get his buffs back. As he stands right now I'd put him around Kharazim.
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>>125770836
People will still pick Uther when they need to protect a priority target, and pick Tyrande when they need an all-rounded support with a ranged stun. What's gonna happen, though, is that people won't pick Tyrande just because she's just blatantly better than everyone else.
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>>125771028
I mostly report people for going AFK, does that count?
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>>125771028
If someone is feeding and it doesnt look intentional to me, I still report them and let blizzard sort it out in case they are intentionally feeding.

If they aren't and get banned, thats one less feeder I have to worry about ruining my games.
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>>125771028
I report AFKers, intentional feeders and those that call everyone idiots and faggots.
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>>125771158
I forgot about that, and forgot to put "No, but I say I do to screw with people."
>>125771039
>>125771081
what about medic and rehgar?
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>>125771269
Oh, and I don't report bad players for not being as good as I'd wish them to be.
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How do I convince someone to NOT go all-in against 3 people with diablo early game

Like, you got no escape options, you're incredibly slow and you WILL get killed. How.
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>>125740632
Really only need the increased bear damage to creeps to be doing that. Wouldn't ever get anything the tier after except for the more stuns
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>>125741802
>What do you do in this situation?
Nothing, I'm not a fucking baby sitter. Chances are I should be spending my attention and APM trying to play better instead of observing someone else play.
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>>125771304
Medic is weird, and Rehgar needs better basic abilities. That's all I can think of.
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>>125771304
The scaling chafes really helped medic out. I'd put her towers the middle and Rehgar towards the bottom. He's kind of like Malf the only thing of note is his ult.
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>>125736181
>LiLi, Tassadar, Nazeebo, Chen, KT, Nova
https://youtu.be/byEGjLU2egA?t=66
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>>125763515
Still not nearly as bad as tranny carrot top
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>>125757549
Chen getting too drunk and beating Li Li like the angry drunk Uncle he is.
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is there any fun banter between arthas and uther? arthas and jaina?
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>>125770072
>>125770072
i like her voice doe.
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>>125772234
When Arthas kills Jaina he'll say, "Jaina you broke your promise." And at the beginning Uther asks how he could trust Arthas and Arthas says something like If it makes you him feel better he could kill him again.

Arthas will also ask Uther if he wants to become a Death Knight.
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Not hotsg player this game is ded? i seems ded like sc2
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Theme songs for playing certain heros, tried to go for things that aren't too obvious but something that when I hear I am reminded of them.

Leoric:
This Is Halloween
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOtEdhKOMgQ

Cho'gall:
Rusty Bucket Bay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfgZOTuu6J0

Raynor/Tychus:
The Warrior's Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJNz2QgSNsk

Nova:
You Don't Know Me(Madworld)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyV0GLebbK0

Jaina:
Avril - Girlfriend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGJ8ixlfKUs

Sgt Hammer:
POD - Boom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32tELgOnwOI

Li Li:
Smile.DK Butterfly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhfRcWeT-lA

Butcher:
Meat On The Table - WWE Ryback's theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tilSEX-7Oxk

Open to suggestions.

Also an Anon here said Country ETC should play Sweet Home Alabama, and I agree:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jK8C8Ls164
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>>125773254
What?
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>>125774319
Leoric: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTuD8k3JvxQ

Cho'Gall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SzE08aInn4

Jaina: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjwV5w0IrcA
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>healer in the group
>awesome!
>female username
>partied with some fuck

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee cant wait for the heals
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>>125774319
Thrall is too obvious.

https://youtu.be/aUBrjGrzBm0
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>>125774670
Better than
>queue with 4
>Lt. Morales is the 5th
>cannot find the q key on their keyboard
>less than 10k healing in 20+ minutes
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>>125774319
>Country ETC
I always play the Starcraft 2 Terran Themes while playing him. The acoustic strings mixed with electric guitar fits pretty well. Makes me also want to play Hammer.
https://youtu.be/rH3PXvVEwjM?t=6m5s
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>>125774319

Tyrande:
https://youtu.be/wXZq2g-qKPw
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I didn't realise you could out DPS Chen's shields till today.
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>>125774319
Chen:
Either
https://youtu.be/HkMNOlYcpHg
or
https://youtu.be/yzcEG_JoVuo
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Man fuck Russians
Literally the niggers of Europe.
Doto and league have Russian containment servers for a reason.
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>>125778132
Where did Ivan touch you?
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if my post ends with 0-5 i'll play 5 hours straight of my man, Anub'arak.
if 6-9, le superior lifeform man
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>>125778423
>Abathur playing an illogical game like Hearthstone
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>>125778505
Mutational upgrades is a RNG game.
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So what hero is literally faggot tier? I don't have much gold but I want to play something disgusting
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>>125778697
Salami'Tas
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>>125778697
Illidillidingdongman
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>>125778697
Gazlowe. 4k right now. Pick the Robo ult.
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>>125771028
if someone's a dickhead but playing well enough I don't report, if they're ruining the game by being a feeding AFK'ing faggot, I report them
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>>125778450
KINKY
Time to consume the living AND the dead. let's hope my team dosen't let me go in alone, _______fuck_________
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>>125774319
Murky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BokAbMB-2g

Chen (and also Artanis I guess): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUamHEvVQy0
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So I just finished placements in solo ranked and gotta ask, what would the ranks equate to in metal based mmr's for the sake of my epeen?
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Why is Tyrande so fun?
>decent clutch heals
>fuck your objective/gank, hit your entire team from across the map owl
>guaranteed kill/save your ally from a billion miles away stun
>stealth and heals for all for escaping/engaging
>mark to fuck up overly confident retards who dive you.
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>>125781132
40-2 is bronze
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>>125778697
Murky
I fucking hate him so much. I imagine all of his players to be manchildren with neckbeards.
Alternatively, illidan. Especially with Dante skin.
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>>125781345
I'm a qt fun girl who plays murky not neckbeard teehee! ^_^
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>>125763515
>>125763554
Dreamworks_face.jpg
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>>125778423
>uses frostwolf grunt
>ending turn while your minions still haven't attacked
>timetravelling back to beta when voidcaller was a 1/3 taunt instead of voidwalker
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>>125759581
Must improve.
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Will they ever start adding heores that are more interesting than "generic in a line skill shot that slows" shit?

I'm getting tired of all these boring hero designs. I figured sooner or later they'd run out of generic ideas and have to get creative, but i guess that point is yet to come
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>>125782454
>the other player somehow has 35 health
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>>125782753
What about Cho'gall?
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Havent played in ages, how are you supposed to use morales?
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>>125783093
Have you ever played medic in TF2, just like that but with more micro, also if your team is shit is over.
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>>125783093
you basically just heal one target, if your team requires healing on 2 targets you're going to lose
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>>125783850
Isn't that the same case with Lili?
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>>125783373
>>125783850

Does having the ray active on a full HP hero waste mana?
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>>125778132
Doto containment doesn't work.
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>>125784021

>two for one

>brew ult

No
>>
senjinn here

post the artanis one
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>>125784042
No.
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>>125784042
No.
Also at 13 get that talent that heals you too, really important, it's called group therapy or something
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>>125784042
No. Apparently just topping up constantly is the way to go now. Unless you know they can have self-regen.
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>>125784165
>Implyint that Lilifags take the brew ult.
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>>125784165
>taking brew ult
hello bronze
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>>125784261
>Also at 13 get that talent that heals you too.
Wasting your 13 talent.
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>>125773214
Also Muradin will tell Arthas to "Keep that bloody sword away from me", and Arthas replies with "Well stay out of it's way"
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>>125784328
See muh point>>125784451
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>>125737336
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>>125785969
>Then I must consider this an act of seasoning
xDDD
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>Want to know how much damage living the dream + slime advantage + slimy pufferfish + octograb lvl 2 does
>Can't even octograb the training dummy

Nice game bronzies
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>>125786129
lel so randum rawr! *_*
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>>125786224
grab arthas n00b
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>>125786542
Can't you just let me crunch my numbers?
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>>125786790
What's difference between azmodan and zagara?
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>>125786881
Azmodan is a fat fuck who gets bodyblocked like no tomorrow.

Zagara is a fat fuck who gets bodyblocked like no tomorrow, but she has devouring maw.
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>>125786881
Zagara is better in team fights but Azmodan has the health to make up for his fat ass eating every AoE thrown in his general direction
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Speaking of Zagara, I just bought her now that her price dropped. Devouring Maw is obviously useful, but I also tried playing around with the worm network on bootybay for quick coin turn ins. I never see anyone else use it, though.

Are the worm tunnels useful in competitive play, or will I get bitched at for not taking maw?
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>>125787645

nydus is one of the worst heroics in every situation

pisspoor worm HP and your teammates can't use it
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>>125787645
Nydus is a viable ult on some larger maps, but the biggest issue with it is that you must commit to a split pushing tactic for it work, and in late game, games are won with teamfighting rather than split pushing anyway. By not taking maw, you're essentially down a body, or down an ult in teamfights. It can work on maps like Towers of Meme where you can apply pressure on all lanes quickly, but very rarely the higher you go
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>>125787867
>>125787802
OK, thanks for your input, those are good points.
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Does QM leavers queue still have MMR? Just wondering since I won with TLV in one of these matches which seems impossible in HL.
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>>125788448
I mean on tomb of the spider queen. FML.
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OUR TIME HAS COME
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>>125789075
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>THE HUNT IS ON
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>>125789337
REVEAL THE WAY
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He-hey man
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>>125789565
PURGE THE INFERIOR BEINGS
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>>125791097
That sound like a protoss.
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I'M SO WASTED
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friendly reminder that these are the people talking shit on /hotsg/
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Important Poll

http://strawpoll.me/6301559

I own every other tank but those 3. I often regret buying Rexar.
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Reposting some Greymane images.
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Reminder to report everyone https://twitter.com/dustinbrowder/status/677587533048377344
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>>125792763

There is only one lich king in that poll I guess you already know the answer
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>>125792832

HP at 20 and details of one heroic.
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>>125793017

Marked for the Kill upgrade details. The subsequent Leap can be performed from unlimited distance, even if you lose vision of the target.
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>>125793017
Why does he look so based?
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>>125792749
>Abathur player
>rank 40
how fitting
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>>125792749
xDDD le le high rank meme
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>>125793207

Because he's great fun compared to Lunara and has very solid damage.

Q damage if you take the talents at 4, 7 and 16. High range and waveclear potential. 80 mana, 9 second cooldown.
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>>125793460

Character details. 303 AA with full splash behind the initial target at level 20, with near constant 50% attack speed bonus using Inner Beast. Does not get Giant Killer for human form.
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>>125793386

>can't even get to rank 1
>thinks his opinion is worth anything

leave
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>>125793828
>getting to rank 1 with forced 50/50 from blizzard
epic
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>>125793715

Worgen form AA damage at 16 and Inner Beast attack speed buff. 16 talent Alpha Killer (3% bonus AA damage on enemy heroes) is currently glitched and does not work.
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Greymeme will come before 2016, r-right g-guys?!?!
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>>125793974

Already confirmed no
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>>125793951

Go for the Throat glitch similar to Chen's flying kick and Leoric's E where you can be stuck in an enemy gate if you pick a poor time to use the ability.
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>>125793941
rank 1 is barely 2300-2500MMR
If you can't get that after playing a few hundred games you're globally shit at videogames
HOTS is my first dota clone and even I managed to get r1 without ever knowing shit about it
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>>125774319
>not spooky scary skeletons for leoric
Stopped listening there
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>>125794189

Range on Marked for the Kill. Small damage and vulnerability for 5 seconds on the first enemy hero hit. 75 mana, 60sec CD.
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>>125794237
>if i paid to boost my account to rank 1 so can you!
sure kid, whatever you say
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>>125793941

>forced 50/50
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>>125794441
is this a meme or do you genuinely think it's hard to get r1?
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>>125782753

You're being too cynical, you can make any ability sound bland and simple if you reduce them to those simple descriptions.
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>>125794424

Demonstration of some of the range you can perform the second part of Marked for the Kill from. You can dive from far further if you wish.

that's all of them
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>>125794675
Can you miss the R? Is a skillshot?
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Damn do I buy Lunara when she get to 10K or wait for Greymane now?
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>>125794501
step 1: get a few lucky games
step 2: end up with high mmr
step 3: ????
step 4: profit

everyone else, the matchmaker fucked them up at step 1

check your early matchmaker privilege, not everyone gets carried to the top and then gets to just sit on a cushy MMR like you, faggot
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>>125794834

Yes it's a skillshot so you can miss it. Misha and Vikings can easily absorb it
>>
Why are people looking for people to team league with in general chat? Or any randoms for that matter. I once had a guy invite me to team league because I was looking for a party. I thought team league was supposed to be for organized teams with skype and shit, picking up randoms makes it basically solo queue except you have more time to argue about roles.
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>>125794839
>buying meme heroes
just wait for the real one to come out
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>>125795183
Lunara looks fun though
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>>125795372
post hotslogs
if you arent master league mmr and rank 1 you arent allowed to decide what you find fun
>>
>pick ETC
>enemy pick Jojo
yeah, go fuck yourself tryhard
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>>125795569
Here, catch!
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>>125795497
I don't bother with hotslogs.
Too much work saving and uploading replays. I don't really care about stat tracking.
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>>125795569
He's in this game?
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>>125795723
its Johanna
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>>125794875

>get a few lucky games

My first few games were losses.

What's your next argument?
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>>125740720
>arthas + jaina is extremely fun
O T P
T
P
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>>125796095
>first few games were loses
>carried the fuck afterwards

ooooooo
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Guys why is SC so hard, Should i just stay in this rookie game?
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>Enemy keeps are down, constantly pushing the lanes as Azmodan
>the moment the enemy try to go for the objective I just rat their core

Is there any better feeling?
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>>125795723
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>>125796204
>>125796219

So you're saying you're so bad you can't even get carried?

8^)
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>>125796291
i wish i was gud at starcraft 2
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>>125796291
WoL and HotS?
or are you playing LotV?

Because literally none of the shit you learn in WoL and HotS will carry over to LotV because of the fucked up econ system, kek

i personally don't like it, too used to the slower pace of HotS, but once i hit Rank 1, i'm gonna take a break and see if i can't learn LotV again
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Sup Clarky
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>>125795497
Well scratch that.
Didn't know all you have to do is make and account and search battletag.
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>>125796330
>>Is there any better feeling?
Doing the same thing with zagara.
Infested catapults do 20% of core's health per hit
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>>125795662
>>125796952
a-anon, i was making fun of the people that take hotslogs too seriously
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>>125796760
>tfw I own all 3 episodes of SC2
>tfw I only bought them for the campaign
>tfw never touched anything other than the campaign
I guess I will have to play the real game eventually
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>>125797052
I got that. I was just curious how it worked all of a sudden.
Now I can keep a constant updating reminder of how much I suck
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>>125797264
thats the spirit.
>>
>>125797063
The "real game" is usually getting smacked by Koreans and cheesed constantly.
I like campaign better because I get to use sc1 units
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>>125797063
no, bruh

the singleplayer campaign (and the co-op commander shit with the new LotV expansion) are legit. it's cool if you don't want to play the "hardcore multiplayer" part. the only reason it got so popular is because that 1v1 aspect of the game is very fresh each time and has a lot more lasting playability than the campaign on its own

Blizzard's coming out with more installments for campaign style missions (that 3 mission pack, 3 maps each, for 9 total games) with Nova is just part of Blizzard continuing to support SC2.

the main campaign is over with LotV, but they're gonna do a fuck ton of universe building with the mission packs afterwards.

and they're FINALLY FUCKING GIVING UNIT SKINS, the tech has been in there since Wings of Liberty, but they refused to capitalize on it, so now that they're finally supporting it, players can unlock/purchase skins for their units that'll help keep the SC franchise alive for Blizzard to continue the support

campaign is just as "real" as the multiplayer version, literally give no shits about multiplayer if that's not your thing, just enjoy the campaign, dick around on the Arcade, and play some coop commander missions with your friends
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I love a free Stimpak!
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>>125797714

go get rank 1 you shitter
>>
Lunara leaping ult can get her caught in walls.

Fucking blizzard fix your glitchy shit.
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>>125797789
Nope. At least not now. I want to level some particular characters while I have those Stimpaks active.
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>>125796760
Host at the moment, but i already try LotV in the beta and yes i suck at both, so i not sure if i wanna but LotV even if i love SC.

>>125797063
>>125796434
The campaing is fun,that and ARCADE is the only thing i can enjoy in SC since i suck so much.

I wonder if WC3 is the same.
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>>125797942

B-BUT YOU'RE NOT GOOD UNTIL YOU HIT 1 ANON
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What do you think?
I fucking loathe meme decoy
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>>125797052

bait
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>>125798276
>118 Triple Tap
shitter.
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>>125798276
>triple tap
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Sgt.Hammer now has the highest win rate in Master league.
How does this make you feel /vg/?
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>>125798046
So what? I play to have fun.
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>>125798504
>>125798562

She was the first hero I've bought so obviously I didn't know better. Also it was better when people didn't know how to block.
I only take precision strike exclusively now.
>>
has anyone noticed they play way more games with no tanks/supports after the new MM rules? sucks ass pretty hard imo
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>>125798693
>it took you 118 games to "know any better"
You're not helping your cause.
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>>125798693
>Not that triple fap when they all have shit positioning.
Sometimes its better when you get 1k mmr shitters in your games.
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>>125798783
I've played almost exclusively Nova at first. It was obviously effective because people couldn't position themselves to save their life. It was also before the triple tank meta when everyone went for max damage squishes. I've only really stopped after Kharazim hit with his stupid divine palm.
>>
how do you counter hammer if your team has no stuns or dives?
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>>125798276
anti-armor
just learn to time your skills
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>>125800646

Stop playing quick match
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>>125800668
It's better with crippling shot because you don't have time to just stand and auto attack.
Only decoy builds go one in the chamber and I hate decoys.
Also I want to stay alive.
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>>125797534
>very fresh each time
>implying the first 2-4 minutes are ever not "make x amount of drones then make y amount of low tier damage plebs"
>implying games last much longer than 10 minutes.

The majority of time in every multiplayer starcraft game is a carbon copy of the last 10 games. Thats why i stopped playing during wings of liberty, maybe its different now... I doubt it.
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>>125795569
>pick ETC
>enemy pick Anubarak
>gets caught in all my mosh pits
>team squashes him like a big

They can't sop us, let em try!
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>>125800994
>loses to the same 12pool cheese
>can't improve
>blames stale metagame
>can't even win against the same stale metagame he claims exists

keep it up bronzie
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>>125798026
if anything, i'd get it for the campaign

it's cliche and cheesy as fuck, but hey, Starcraft's always been cliche and cheesey as fuck

and if you haven't gotten him yet, you get Artanis unlocked in HotS for buying LotV with the same account
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I want to get a girlfriend, just do sonya will steal her away from me. Just railing my girlfriend in front of me with her massive Dick, I want watch and jerk my little Dick while I think about how I could never pleasure my Gf like sonya could.
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>>125798026
wc3 still has a decent amount of players for normal matches on bnet, if you wanna play custom games go on tunngle or something similar
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>>125803012
...christ, do people actually have fantasies about this shit?
>>
>don't have much gold on either of my accounts
>want to have gold for Greymane and it's still 50% off

Persuade me not to buy Tyrande and Diablo the former on EU and the latter on NA.
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>>125803580

buy just Tyrande
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>>125803580
Diablo is meh.
I'm sorry anon but Tyrande is super fun, at least for me and you should buy her.

By the time Greymane actually comes out and drops to 10K you'll have enough.
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>>125798026
>The campaing is fun,that and ARCADE is the only thing i can enjoy in SC since i suck so much.
>
>I wonder if WC3 is the same.
this is exactly how dota became so popular
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>>125803571
I had a dream about pregnant Lili shitting in my mouth, so I'm guessing yes.
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>Play Sylvanas for the Warcraft Hero and Specialist dailies
>Win two matches easily

Are people in lower MMR(Well, my MMR is currently around 1.6k-1.7k for Sylvanas) not that good at dealing with Specialists who do their job? I just pushed in their forts easily and soaked up alot of exp when they were busy

This does remind me, last time I was Muradin, an enemy Murky kept pushing us to our core, this was EXTREMELY annoying
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>>125804516
who was the father? was it Chen?
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>>125804534
MMR is now hero specific? What?
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>>125803841
to be fair, it's actually really fucking incredible that someone was able to create a mod for a game...style? genre? (i don't think genre would be appropriate since it hadn't be established back then), that people didn't know they wanted to play

and now look at LoL and DotA, 2 of the biggest games on the planet, LoL with 3 million unique players per month, and DotA with several multi-million dollar tournaments and both with near globla recognition from asian, european, and na teams.

>>125804656
no there isn't, he's just retarded
>>
>>125804656
>>125804718
Uh, what I meant is that my MMR was around 1.6k-1.7k when I did those dailies, not that it was hero-specific
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>>125804842
word to the wise, just do dailies in VS AI, it's faster and less hassle

pick Beginner Bots, and just rush the base, most everyone else playing Beginner Bots are there for their Dailies too, so they'll group and shove a lane hard and end it in like 7 minutes
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>>125804534
Yeah I have to remind my team not to leave Azmodan, Sylvanas, Murky alone but people really don't care sometimes. You can ping 10 times and tell "we are going to lose forts" but people only rock up AFTER they hear the fort is lost sound. I think it's purely tunnel vision in lower mmr.
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>>125805145
Thankfully as Muradin in that game, because of the talent that reduces CD per enemy hit for Thunder Clap and also how it heals me, it is extremely easy for me to just jump in on Murky, spam Thunder Clap alot until the wave dies and I can manfight Murky
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Are all the people that bought Lunara the people that had buyer's remorse from buying Artanis?

I swear Lunara and Artanis players have the exact same play style.

>See enemy
>TIME FOR EBIC GUERRILLA HIT N' RUN
>Ult past front line
>Reveal back line
>Die
>"Dang didn't see them! Who'd have thought the casters would be behind the warriors?"

Also:
I found Raynor utility build that was pretty good if you're QMing and you have no healers and no tanks and no CC

Bribe
Vamp
Double Barrel
Stun Shot (double stuns)
>Clinic Cool downs
>Hyperion
>NexFury

Throw Bruisers before each objective and shit out Hyperion every 30 seconds on a fort. Use Double Stuff stuns to fuck shit up as his shot actually has deceptively long range. Stay back just enough to bait melle assassin the stun 'em stutter step and bait them in too deep.
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>>125805376

>Bribe and VampAssault on Raynor

Are you mowing my lawn right now?
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>>125805376
vampiric assault is the biggest noob trap in this game
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>>125805637
It was in a game with heavy harass and we had no heals and no tank. But the enemy team had a lot of mobility, so I didn't think focused Attacks would be that great. It worked for me. Basically a specialist Raynor build.
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>>125805376
>vamp
>on a character that auto heals 30% (up to 45%)

bruh
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>>125805912

You know, if you take Give Me More, Vampiric Assault, Fight or Flight, Hyperion, Relentless Leader, Bullseye and Bolt of the Storm, you can completely miss the fucking point of playing a ranged assassin you thunderous mong
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>>125804634
Lili is pure she only had sex with him like 3 times!
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>>125806159
>Not taking hyperion.

Erm.
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>>125806159
>Not taking Hyperion.

You thunderous mong.
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what do
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>>125806550
someone didn't pray to the matchmaking gods this afternoon
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>>125806159
>not taking give me more
Damn anon that extra 15 damage must be so useful
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>>125806657
L O C K E D A N D L O A D E D

bets
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>>125806765
TLV on GOT.

It's a done deal laddy.
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>>125806765
the fuck are these teams LOL
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>>125806765
Blue.
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>>125806765
I belive in the bug of kinkiness
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>>125806159
>>125806159
>not taking bullseye.
Anon, I...
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>>125807015
literally breaking the meta
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>>125806765
just fuck my lanes up senpai
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>>125806765
Literally QM tier teams lmao
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>>125806765
Just fuck my HL up fampai
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>Trying to get Stiches to 5 for the bux
>"Oh boy it'll be like Pudge in dota!"
>He's literally Pudge but without any of the things that made Pudge good or fun
>Throw hook
>Nothing to keep enemies near you until slow on attack
>No rotting gas, until ult level for a wapping Immolation level of dps for 8 seconds
>Gorge is like pudges ult only it keeps the enemy safe and does like two attacks worth of damage and doesn't heal you. Whole point of pudge is to grab people and lock em down so your teammates can eat gang rape them
>Talents that apply his passive that does like no damage to his attacks and spells

Is he bad on purpose, like for art?

The fuck is even the point?
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>>125806765
>abathur without a godly autoattack hero like Raynor or Illidan
>Brightwing ever
>zeratool and murky on one team
>no Uther in either team
Inb4 zera void prisons someone about to take the legendary rewind double puffer fish octodad
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>>125807483
>pudge is considered bad

Oh, how times change.
>>
I need to get an SC character, should I get memeslug or Artanis?
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>>125806159
Give Me More is much better then SM, except on small maps like TotSQ where you can rotate from lane to lane quickly.

Vampiric Assault is VERY situational talent but can help you stay in lane longer if you don't need the extra damage and need the lane presence. Good on Dragon Shire if you lack a dedicated healer.

Fight or Flight is again, very situational. Revolution Overdrive is better 95% of the time.

Hyperion is better 95% of the time, Banshees can be good to focus a squishy or someone like morales.

Relentless Leader is a must if enemy team features ETC and/or a lot of CC. It will help you survive better than double Q, and thus help your team more.

All in all, don't downplay some talents, Raynor has a pretty fixed build but he can still adapt on tier 1, 10 and 13 mainly

Source: rank 1 raynor with 500+ games played
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>>125807483
>play a game
>oh boy, it's gonna be exactly like that other game
>get disappointed when it's not like that other game

bruh, why can't you accept Stitches for who he is? why do you have to compare him? just love him for who he is and not what you believe he should be.
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>>125807483
>enemy sieges your keep
>hook someone
>gorge
>walk behind the gate
>enemy is now alone, tanking the keep cannons and with no way out unless they have a blink because this ain't league and walls stop dashes
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>>125807783
flip a coin or something, they're pretty even imo
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>>125807809
I believe he should be, like usable. When I play a tank like Muradin, or Pudge, I feel like a threat, a lurking potential doom for my enemies.

When I play Stitches I feel like some cuckold, waiting for the punisher to finish fucking my wife towers up the ass.
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>>125808147
I did, I got abathur. Time to be useless until I learn how to properly memeslug! Good thing years of RTSes and Mobas gave me good map awareness.

All I know about him is that if I hat a minion, I get Xp for it too
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>>125807783
Abathur is great for bot games
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>>125806885
>>125807015
>>125807057
>>125807081
>>125807223
>>125807307
>>125807465
we lost like 2 minutes in

murky TLV pushing the shit out of us, no one could stop it

nazeebo never there to defend or get the terror

it was horrible
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>>125807959
>Hook enemy
>Gorge behind gate
>All there cool-downs reset inside my stomach
>They escape unless my team is ready, which they probably aren't because we just lost the punisher apparently
>As soon as gorge release, the gate goes down because the enemy team isn't retarded
>Best case scenario will kill one guy and all my cool-downs are spent
>Objective is still lost because there's no way i"m hooking someone out of the shrines with a billion little minions spawning
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>>125808390
Nova with the siege damage
Aba with the hero damage

what the fuck
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>>125808390
FROM THE DEPTHS HE COMES

>>125808518
probably took the terror
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>>125808518
garden terror
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>>125808518
>Nova with the siege damage
>what is Garden of Terror
>>
>>125808518
>Garden of Terror.

She took the plant.
>>
>>125808390
How do people like you even get to rank 5-10? Now I understand why some people say even the majority of rank 1s are shit
>>
>>125808661
what's wrong with people like me....

my QM mmr is 3k.....
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>>125808278
Evolve some balls and body soak. Your body still soaks experience while you're hatting a minion on the other side of the map. If the tribute spawns on top Lane, you can tunnel bot and hat a minion on mid and give your team 2 lanes' worth of xp while the enemy gets 0. If your team can stall at the objective, you will get 10 first and hopefully it's enough for them to win a 4v5 fight.
You can be way more ballsy than you'd think. Deep tunnel is not interrupted by damage, so if you cover the paths to your hiding spot with mines, you'll have enough time to nope out of there when the enemy comes to kill you.
>>
>>125807483
This is a team game. Stitches can lock people down by hooking and eating them. The thing is unless you body block them and your team follow up nothing happens. Yeah its shit but the hook is so potentially game changing blizzard doesn't want you be able to make a epic play by yourself. He's not bad he's actually really good in games if you can rely on your team to follow up on hook, people don't that's why he's shit.
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>It's a murky abathur nova zeratul quickmatch
Thanks for the matchmaking fixes, blizz!
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>Current MMR: 1363
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>solo q quick meme
>4 misterious purple men in my team
is this a joke?
>>
Who /MFPT/ here?
>>
>>125809375
>new players start out at 1700
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>>125809768
I like the fatty, he is legit a great rexxar
also nice videos for beginners i guess, he isn't rank one like his friends but he seems to have more overall knowledge
>>
>>125809603
You're actually more likely to win against them. If they're stacked and your soloing your mmr's should be higher.
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Gentlemen, how do we make Illidan viable?
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>>125809962
>implying that MMR > coordination
>>
>>125809948
I don't know how he hasn't got there. This was first MOBA and I got there quite quickly.
>>
So how does Kharazim support his team again? His kit is based off of mostly punch people in the mouth.
>>
>>125810167
t. Iron Fists taker
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>>125810167
Have you ever punched a nigga in the face so much that your allies wound close just by it?
>>
>>125810167
Some supports are there only for healing, others Support with CC and disruption.

Kharazim supports his team by punching the other team in the fucking teeth
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>>125810167
Breath of Heaven and Punches from the Punch Dimension.
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>>125810050
You can always coordinate better than them unless they're on voice comms.
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>>125810087

L U C K
>>
Once you get use to lunara she is really pretty good
>>
>>125810734
No she's not.
>>
>>125810167
Speaking of Kharazim why are more and more people taking SSS in HL?
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>>125810883
its a meme
>>
There is literally NO ONE that counters our guy Jimmy after level 16. Any fool that tries to jump him gets promptly chain stunned for 3 seconds with double Q and brahp brahp'd to death
>>
>>125807483

Stiches is shit because he's only good on the losing team. Haha enemy buildings blocking hook is great!
>>
>>125810993
Nah senpai that's why you dive him after he uses his Q's.
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>>125810883

Does 4K+ damage to Muradin and co. and act as Ice Block, on a 50sec CD. Divine Palm just doesn't yield consistent results in HL
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>>125810948
this isn't very clear, does this mean that SSS being good is a meme or SSS being bad is a meme
>>
>>125811230
>Does 4K+ damage to Muradin and co
If you manage to single him out, at which point what are you even doing? SSS is only worth it vs Cho Gall desu
>>
why do people still play zeratul now that he's a complete limp dick?
>>
>>125811396
His ult can change a teamfight and he has better sustained damage+survivability than Nova
>>
>>125811396
his shadow assault build is solid in HL if the enemy has a lot of squishies and no way to shut him down
>>
>>125811396
He's not that bad vp is still the best ult in the game
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>>125810883
People have gotten really good at cancelling damage on the Palm target I've noticed, so unless you are a god of timing it's a wasted Ult.

Also SSS is basically an Ice Block that kicks people in the head so thats good
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>>125811249
It's just better palm either doesn't get procced or if it does the focus is too much on a squishy and they die anyway. SSS also gives you an escape or buys you time also great if a Muradin or etc thinks they can just go backline.
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>>125811608
thats an odd way to spell Sundering
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>>125811396
wimpy loser
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>>125811790
You misspelled Shadow Assault
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>>125811608
>not maw
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>Tfw you chokeslam an ETC during the Most Pit start up frames so it cancels it

LORD OF TERROR
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>>125812131
>tfw you Purifier Beam ETC during the Mosh Pit start up frames so he gets lasered to death
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>>125812334
more like 100 damage
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>>125812131
Hmm I just played as ETC and a Diablo just did that to me.

Was it on Towers of Doom? we still won
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>>125812487
this was last night on curse hollows. That game taught me that Apocolypse can be pretty funny on that map.
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>>125811389
You don't play him much do you?
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>He picks infinite sundering
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why are you shitposting in /hotsg/ when you could be playing a team brawler of heroic proportions?
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>>125813039
its for the rubins
>>
Is Tyrael worth 4k? His abilities seem rather underwhelming
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>>125809374
>Rexxar, Tyrande, Hammer, Lunara and Nova

vs.

>Tyrael, Sonya, Li Li, Lunara, Sylvanas

Yeah, wonderful matchmaking.
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>>125813814
I think he's fun to play you just throw your sword everywhere and teleport. When you die you also go full jihad and explode in your enemies face.
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>>125813814
literally one of the best tanks available with literally the best engage ult in the game
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>>125813814

>finally find an enemy stitches who isn't using auto_skillshot for the epic 'land 100% of your blind hooks' that totally isn't suspicious to everyone else
>enemy has shittidan and shitara
>should be easy right?

lol nawwwww
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>>125813857
That doesnt look worth bitching about
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>>125814157
Dat lunara carry
>>
>>125810883
Simply put, it amazing for securing kills and picking people off. If you can keep someone in place for even a second they're going to lose half their health and you can easily kill them after that. It counters diving heroes as well since there'll be no one else around to lessen the damage. Plus, it's F U N.
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>>125814049
What about Chen? Is his potential comparable to Tyrael?
>>
new
>>125814229
>>125814229
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>>125814196
>Sonya, Tyrael

>Rexxar

Rexxar can't do fucking shit against that frontline.
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>>125813085
>heroic proportions will never be a meme
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