/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

first for ds2 is not canon

>>125736016
how many giant slaves died making that couch

Third for hoping DaS3 makes spears shine even more, and hoping it has a good waifu creator.

>>125736905
>making spears shine more
I hope you mean cosmetically.

>>125736016
Invaders in DS1 seem not to know how to fight a zwei who doesn't just spam the standing r's.

so /dsg/
how do i get my hands on the insolent set in SotFS?

There's no other armor in DaS1 that covers the arm/hand entirely like the black manchette, is there?
Gold hemmed is the closest I can find

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>>125737713
boot up cheat engine

>Get the Estoc
>holy hsit this thing is great
>use it for its intended purpose of hiding behind a shield and poking
>run out of stamina and get hit
>instead two hand it, run in circles, baiting an attack, and then attacking
>basically using it as a spear

>>125737713
I believe you have to light the sconce that's right before the second bonfire, which spawns a bunch of dark phantoms that can drop pieces of the set

>>125738160
>spinning

>>125738160
Sounds more like a halberd playstyle

can invaders in upper Blightttown show up in the world of people who are already down in the swamps? I kinda want to go there but having to backtrack all the way from the top sounds tedious

>>125737713
>>125737921
If you don't want to camp those shitty red phantoms that have a really bad drop rate of armor, I can just start up a new account, spawn in the armor and souls to get to your SM and give them to you if it's PC

>>125738753
Just go through drakes, doesn't take long

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xth for being invaded by 'Darth Vader' on Star Wars Day
gg

So should I go down to Nito after getting the Lord Vessel? Or is one of the other paths better?

>>125739526
It really doesn't matter, but I prefer to grab the sunlight maggot from lost Izalith first.
My usual route is 4kings, Seathe, Bed of Chaos then Nito last, but whatever floats your boat, senpai.

>>125739754
I've only ever done up to Nito in this game. Is 4 kings as hard as the meme suggests?

Will Dark Souls 3 have quick stepping?

Should it?

Jesus fucking Christ I hope not.

>>125739754
I think I ended up doing Seathe, 4kings, Nito, then Bed of Chaos.

>>125739827
If you can DPS them down quick enough, then you only need to deal with them one at a time. Maybe at most two at the end.

>>125740123
what is that?

>>125740123
quick stepping? I know that it was confirmed backstepping has no iframes at all

>>125740374
The dodge stepping from Bloodborne. Having a conversation with a friend and he thought it was close to being confirmed. Fuck knows I don't believe him but now he has me worried.

>>125740403
Did backsteps ever have iframes?

>>125737176
Nope, I mean mechanically. They needed a more diverse moveset, like the Partisan which I think I was the only person who ever used that in DaS2.

>>125740374
>>125740403

I think he means the casualmode bloodborne step dodging.

>>125740502
yeah it did, I think in both ds1 and 2

>>125740707
Holy dog shit. The more you know.

I cleared Demon's Souls again, and yet I still want to play more despite it being dead. I don't know why I love it so much compared to Dark Souls.

>>125740615
isn't rolling in armor a bit wonky though

>>125740583

I actually just started using that with RoB+Flynn, and holy shit it's OP. I was like 20-3 in the arena the other day using it. I guess people aren't used to the reach or something

>>125740763
Just a good ass game mang. If you haven't used Moonlight Greatsword yet I suggest doing a run with that. I suspect you have like most people should have if they enjoyed DeS, and if so then I really have no other ideas for a run. My chub for the MGS is just too hard.

>>125739297
As an invader, I mean. Can I show at the top of blighttown while the host is down in the swamps?

>>125740917
Most people will usually use SBS since it has the same moveset and better damage.

But yeah, partizan is nice, the r2 combo is nasty.

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motherfucker's invincible when he's doing the thunder thighs ground pound

>>125740925
I got that on my second character as soon as I could. I adore it, especially the wide arc it has when 1handing it.

Also fighting Allant is what I look forward to every playthrough, even if I do risk losing a soul level.

>>125740583
What are you talking about, partizan is probably the best dex spear in the game, like only heide spear is better but you have to pump faith.

>>125741318
what am i looking at?

>>125741524
When I was playing absolutely no one was using the Partisan, it was all SBS hexer bullshit

>>125741318
>full Giant set
>Power Within BKS
>kindled Estus +7
gonna vomit

>>125740583
Why? They're extremely good if you have half a speck of knowledge on how to use them. Adding more moves would be pointless since most people poke 'n turtle.

>>125740763
It's by far the most polished game in the series

>>125742685
it's the most fleshed out, not the most polished

dark souls 1 is a bit tighter in terms of combat feel and mechanical balance

>>125741318
No he's not, smack him before he gets touchdown and he'll still stagger if you did enough poise damage.
What NG are you on?

>>125742836
>an entire sixth of the game unfinished
>most fleshed out

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>>125742625
ayy

>>125742909
better

>>125742836
I don't think polished or fleshed out is the right word for it, but I think it's the best in terms of atmosphere. You really get the sense of "man this world is fucked and it's going to suck for everyone".

Which is more bleak setting? Demon's Souls, pre-DS2 Dark Souls, or SotFS Dark Souls?

>>125742836
Yeah, what I wouldn't do for DeS to have drop down attacks. It would make 5-1 more manageable.

>>125740583
Partisan is my favorite spear. I don't like the other move sets because all the stabbing attacks seem redundant

>>125742902
>an entire sixth of what I feel the game should be is left out
FTFY
just because something is cut doesn't mean the game is unfinished

>>125743104
Hell, even though it was cut, seeing the dead Archstone is chilling when you realize the rest of the world will end up like that.

>>125743096
Its stupid, r1 is stab and r2 is stab harder. Maybe they'll make halberds good again in DaS3 and drop the stupid DaS2 moveset

>>125743064
Dark Souls 1 does the better job of getting the player invested in the NPCs before they all meet some tragic ending
Demon's Souls might have the darkest setting, but Dark Souls has the most sad and personal interactions

>>125742847
NG+++, fashion souls would kill me

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>Look up DS3 requirements
>50 GB
>FIFTY GIGABYTES
This better look fucking gorgeous and have DS2 shadows Miyazaki

>>125743395
I thought tragedies like Ostrava and Astraea were handled exceptionally well, and I liked them better than their arguable DaS counterparts, which I guess would be Solaire and Fair Lady.

Who also wins in a three-way free-for-all between Penetrator, Ornstein, and Sir Alonne?

>>125743958
I'll give you that, Ostrava and Astraea were the best in DeS, also the stuff surrounding Yurt was more interesting than Lautrec
I still think DaS has a better cast and interactions overall though

Ornstein

>Dark Souls 3
>Dragon's Dogma

Man, I can't wait to save up enough money to buy a PC that can play these two games. They're both coming out in the first quarter of 2016. They're gonna be awesome. And they're both gonna run at 60 fps.

And speaking of Dragon's Dogma, I hope that Dark Souls 3 introduces a lot more flashier spells and pyromancies. I've always thought that the problem with previous Souls games is that the spells are just too conservative in visual design.

What's the equivalent of chaos/dex builds from DaS1 on DaS2?

>>125744134
>I still think DaS has a better cast and interactions overall though

Yeah, you aren't wrong on that since there is so much more going on in Dark Souls. I'm of the opposite opinion of Yurt/Lautrec though, since I think the latter's wholehearted devotion to his goddess gives him more character. Yurt was still cool though.

I wonder what would be different if Demon's Souls was remade and given the same amount of development and budget as Dark Souls gets now. Aside from having that 6th Archstone.

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how did I do on the fashion souls?

I am debating changing the skin color to something darker, and getting darker hair, and trying to make the face looking less like a 12 year old, but that will require a little work in CE.

>>125744232
Wait, Dogma is coming to PC? Neat.

>>125743759
It better be a completed game and have areas that are worth it.

Do eyes of death work 100% of the time or can it just be wasted without telling you

Why is the great hammer rolling R1 so good? It always catches them off guard

>>125744732
Get better headgear, that's one of the faggiest hats in the entire game

Do we still make build pics? I don't come to generals since DaS1 DLC. Post what you got

>>125744732
Pretty hard to not make anyone look like a 12 years old in dark souls 1

>>125744764
Where have you been these past few months?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZgttQ8jFjk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TWDfltu6_w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UnxufWhAnQ

>>125744904
What would you recommend? I would have ran brass, but I'm trying to stay lighter.

>>125745078
I've been only reading the generals of games I have been currently playing and almost nothing else
Thanks though

>>125745204
wear the sack

>>125745204
adventurer, that viking helm you get from killing Vamos, maybe even chainmail or the obvious choice
>>125745474

>>125745204
Hollow thief
Bandit hood (is it a hood on females?)

How much weight do you have to work with anyway?

>>125744732
DaS1 is not very fashionable

>>125745727
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/474697
Here is the build. Looks like I have like maybe 2 units to play around with.

>>125745638
>>125745474
Doesn't fit the elegant motif i was going for, thoguh they are god tier hats.

>>125745727
its a bandanna covering the lower face on female

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oh hey, i forgot this hat existed. How does that look?

>>125746086
>its a bandanna covering the lower face on female

You're thinking of thief starting set

>>125746303
that's a bowl, not a hat

>>125746303
qt

>>125746086
Crystal helm, helm of favor, royal helm could work
Royal's one of the better picks if you still have to go to NG+ for another SLB cast anyway, Vamos will still be around

Then again you mentioned CE anyway

>>125746380
right, you mean the brigand hat. Its more of a brown turban. I think it fits better on dark souls 2, i use that with the saints set with the tattered cloth manchettes.

>Need humanity, don't feel like burning an effigy
>Put sign down
>Get summoned
>Kill an invader for the host right before the fog gate while he does jack shit
>You are being sent back to your world...
Fuck that

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>>125746798
I fucking hate that. I'm not a hitman, im here to help you progress though the level. Fight your own battles, cowardly host

So in DaS1, what matches the Knight chest piece?

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How?
How can i be gravelorded if im not even in an area that has pvp?

>>125747036
Knight Armor
Elite Knight Armor
>>125747109
If you got infected earlier at some point it'll always tell you when it goes away

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>>125746959
>fight club
>fighting against host, about to win
>everyone starts ganking you

maybe don't let that shitter host

>>125747036
the hollow thief hood matches the scarf of the knights armor pretty well.

I'm really surprised that Darklurker of all things gave me more trouble than any other Souls boss. Then again I'm a co-op fag so that was really just punishment for my hubris.

>>125747501
The darklurker is a boss made to fight unlocked. if you dont have a lot of practice with that, you will get your shit wrecked.

It also resists everything- including physical- with the exception of fire.

It was really a weirdly specific boss. Fun fight though.

>>125747596
Oh, it was certainly a fun fight, but damn if it wasn't frustrating spending a whole night fighting him, even running out of Effigies at one point.

What made fromsoft decide to ramp up enemy elemental resistances in the dlc they produce?
In DaS1, AotA makes the MLGS and the Furysword useless, and any infused weapons even more so?
While not as pronounced in DaS2, the bosses took noticably more damage from physical damage as opposed to infused, with some having one weakness, like Aava, Lud and Zallen being weak to fire.

Anyone seen a pvp video where a guy parried a girl wearing desert sorcerer skirt, kneeled and look up her skirt, shit was mad funny but I can't find it

>>125749056
Thats because im pretty sure that was either mocha sun or abyss gravelord, both of which deleted their accounts over extremely faggy internet drama.

Are there any bosses with absurd dark resistance I should know about in das2

>>125749056
I think the guy's channel no longer exists unfortunately

>>125749131
Yep that was it. Guy had a Cory in the house pic, didn't know they deleted their accounts

>>125749136
darklurker is the one that comes to mind, maybe the chariot.

>>125749131
I didn't know why that happened until you mentioned it and I looked it up just now so thanks

Pretty lame

>>125749430
It was really weird. Not e-celeb this shit up, but they both were seemingly pretty laid back and funny guys. I even participated in a few of Abyss's fight clubs.

>>125748550
Because...lore?

>>125749657
>>125749807
ds2 looks great desu

Is dks2 (not sotfs) on pc dead?

Is this build ok for dks1 on PC? Is 125 the meta? Is my build too shit?

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>>125751674
forgot image.

>>125751838
Why effigy shield?

>>125745078
THEY'RE MASTERWORKS ALL, CAN'T GO WRONG

Shit, I almost forgot about that line.

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>>125745078
>AN ANCIENT EVIL AWAKENS

>>125752454
cuz it looks cool as heck senpai

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>>125751290
:3

>>125751516
Yeah, it's dead.

tfw you never get summoned to fight the gargoyles in dks1 anymore

>bonfire gets put out
>can't use REO or WSSS
>fogwall in the exit close to me
>no invader
>have to wait just in case someone appears in the world or alt+f4 if i want to do stuff
can anyone explain? has happened 3 times in the parish and 5 or 6 in township

>>125756028
The netcode fucks up a lot and thinks you're being invaded when the invader already timed out or something. When that happens just jump off a ledge or quit to the main menu, that should fix it.

>>125756028
An invader is trying to come but internet speed is shit so it takes ages. also 30% of those fail when it takes some time

>>125754450
>summoning
>for sinh
come on hes the easiest of three dlc final bosses. The squalid queen is a tougher fight then him.

>>125756665
Nah sinh is the hardest to git gud at since he can choose to not get attacked every now and then
Fume is the real pushover once you git gud

>>125756876
nah I killed sinh first try. Fume's easy but hes still harder than sinh.

>>125756665
>melee breaks your equipment faster
>magic is hard to land with him flying around every 2 seconds
>attacks build toxic and leave toxic clouds
>high defenses, weak to magic and dark
compared to
>slow dark projectiles and flame swathe
>slow sweeping attacks
>dark dance with a long windup
>summoning pigs skeletons and occasionaly velstadt
>low defenses, especially physical and magic

>>125756987
No, really no, you can get do fume in either of his phases from start to finish and his combos get really predictable
Sinh can just fly, land fly land fly land and be a general plain in the anus, he also has the equipment durability shit going for him.

>>125752913
>the comments on the YouTube trailer

Man, /v/ must have gone nuts when the trailer came out. Makes me wish I was there at the time.

I'm doing a pyromancy run on DS right now, what main-hand weapon would you recommend?

Early game, Late game or just that one weapon that can carry me throughout the game.

14 str 10 dex atm.
About to visit Blight town

>>125757074
>getting hit
literally git gud.

>>125757074
It's not about getting hit with sinh dummy, hitting him breaks your stuff faster than normal.
Nigga your opinion is shit ergo you are shit

>>125757263
was meant for >>125757215
Will probably have to point this out since you are real shit at reading

>>125751516
>>125754450
Common hotspots for PvP are still alive. Iron Bridge is more active than you'd think, it's just that very few people put down signs for some reason.
BoB Arena is alive. Blueberry arena is ded cause blues are useless.
You can also get some bellbro invasions, but it's like one every 20 minutes or so. Still neat if you're PvEing in the meantime.
Source: I'm an autists who refuses to buy SotFS.

Best level for bellbros? Wanna farm some chunks early game

>>125756876
>Fume is the real pushover once you git gud
Still factually the greatest casual filter in the game and possibly the whole series.
>>125758109
200-500k SM is the best range from my experience.

>>125757920
>SofTs was literally a dollar on sale a week ago

I'm sure your fucking mcnuggets where a better experience

What's even the point in the iron keep bell tower?

It literally goes no where, why is it so active?

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>>125757207

>>125758313
It's a decent bonfire for people who can't beat smelter, you need to farm it for the mad warrior set and people just like PvP?

>>125758313
i use its fire when i skip smelter
also immolation bks and mad warrior gear

>>125757207
Don't you start with the hand axe or battle axe? Keep using that.

>>125757207
reinforced club. quelaag is immune to bleed though i think, so use a GPR buffed hand axe or something

>>125758195
>not getting nuggets or chicken fries from burger king
man, i have SotFS, but McNuggests are Mcoverrated

>>125758737
So I should just spend my shards on it?

I'm still not used to the axe movesets since I've been using too many spears on my previous run.

>>125760035
If you like the moveset, sure. Hand axe may have a short range but it's pretty fast for an axe. Otherwise just try out a few other weapons, and find something you like.

Everything past Drangleic Castle is so shit and boring I just pretend the game ends there. I just can't force myself to go throgh Shrine of Amana, Undead Crypt, Aldia's Keep and the Dragon Shrine again.

>>125760570
I always love the argument that DaS2 is less linear than DaS when each game is just the same thing but reversed.

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Can you fight a shadow, /dsg/?

>>125743395
Don't know m8.
Aside from Laurentius I didn't really cared for any of the NPCs. But I did care with the NPCs in the Nexus.

But DaS NPC stories are better yes.

>>125760713
did it with less fighting priscilla for the first time. how's that fp mod going?

>>125760570
>hating on Undead Crypt
Come on, its a good area. The shieldfags, the wall ghosts, bellringers summoning lleydia ghosts, its a funhouse. There are worse areas in the game, like Harvest Valley or Norman's Wharf.

>>125760713
I doubt it's harder than fighting Aava without the eye.
At least you can see the shadow.

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>>125760713
I can. And I have. But just not in Dark Souls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhfq9pCyFGA

>>125761047
has anyone killed aava without the eye? does it change anything afterwards?

>>125761156
>has anyone killed aava without the eye?
Yes, on multiple occasions. You can even find several videos on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlIawuDY_Mg
>does it change anything afterwards?
Not something I know of.

>>125761156
There are YouTube videos. Doesn't seem to change anything.

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Anyone else monologue about what they are doing in game to a gaming buddy? I feel it keeps me from doing anything really retarded because i have to think about what i am explaining.

Pic related.

>>125761515
That 's pretty autistic fàm

>>125760885
>>125761047
Fighting a boss designed to be invisible is a bit different though.

>>125761721
Aava isnt meant to be fought invisable either.

>>125761721
Arty's not really invisible though.
Just 2D. :^)

>>125760885
First person mod has been done for a while now.

https://mega.nz/#!O55igZiK!emCd8-Lxpkhi-HPSYFqOmkwkiUo1TqgjCjETgjlDikY
This version is for the current patch.

>>125761630
I figured it was. Just was hoping i wasnt the only autist here.

>>125761515
i guess it's on the person, because if i did that, i'd get distracted have to manually think what i want to do and what i want to press which reduces reaction time
>>125761851
ok, thanks. i'll try it out and report any bugs/pointers

>>125761515
Try streaming.

>>125761975
this. just don't call the audience "mr snuggles"

>>125761975
I dont know if i want people watching me.

>>125736016
>binoculars
that's right anon-kun we can't get enough of it.

>>125762108
Fetishize it.

So I'm making a character to PvP at 1.5 mil

I lost approx 40k souls whilst speedrunning through the game. Am I just being an autist if I start again now? Will I even notice that loss in my build?

>>125762136
Im not sure i follow. Are you suggesting I stream dark souls with a gimp mask or nipple clamps or something?

>>125762138
No, because guess what, noone's perfect. Other people have died on their runs too.
And besides, SM's a boogeyman. To actually notice a difference you'd have to lose like 200-300k souls on a 1.5 mil char.
Really, just relax and do your thing.
Show the build

>>125762328
No, don't add fetishes, just make a fetish out of knowing people are watching you.

>>125762328
lmao

>>125762429

I'm using the bone fist so we're looking at like 40 vigor, 30 endurance, 40 strength and 45 dex with nothing invested into any spell stats and 105 agility.

>>125762448
I get what you are saying. Not sure i can force that, though.

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Okay, what about two shadows?

>>125763005
noponopenopenopenope
do 4 kings

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RATE MY BUILD LADS
IT'S PRETTY LEGIT IF I DARE SAY SO MYSELF
Which stat do I raise by 10 next???

>>125763763
DEX

>>125763878
This is """"""""supposed"""""""" to be a Str/Fai build so WRONG
THE ANSWER IS INT BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY STAT BELOW 30

If you were doing a Guts cosplay what would be the best upgrade path for your sword? Considering canonically the Dragonslayer absorbs some magic or whatever essence from all the demons Guts kills until it has become somewhat magical itself. Occult? Chaos?

>>125763941
Why would you want 30 ADP anyway? 20 gets you 10 i-frmaes and 40 gets you 13 in your roll, anything in between is a waste.

>>125763983
not chaos because chaos makes people start on fire and that's gay

>>125763983
Pure normal dude.

Why do people say "dump stat" to mean what they put points in when they have what they need everywhere else? A dump stat is a stat that is never raised, like RES.

>>125764091
>RES is never raised
wrong ;)

>>125764023
Because it doesn't give poise past 30 and I'm gud enough to not need that single extra i-frame would be the serious answer, but do you honestly think I give a shit with THAT build?
This is my first character I'm using to get to NG++ for the spell achievement purchases on Wellager and I honestly didn't expect it to take me this much souls to get there.
I'm going for 60 faith, fucking deeps yo

>>125764168
I thought poise was fucked in DaS2.

>>125764091
Normal doesn't feel quite right because it's a big deal that the sword can now kill otherworldly abominations or something along those lines.

>>125764220
I thought that's just a meme

>>125763983
occult is ok, considering he opposes the godhand

>>125763005

Artificial Difficulty.

>>125764274
Too bad it loses the benefits from your strength stat because Guts is a powerhouse, but yeah, that really feels like the best fitting one.

>>125763983
normal because I don't think it's enchanted with anything in the book
plus it would do the most damage

>>125764234
S-tier strength scaling, don't tell me that doesn't beat abominations, demons, &c.

I think I've beaten DaS at least 15 times since 2012, but yesterday's the first time I've picked avelyn. Gotta say, it really packs a punch. So it got me thinking, I've got to do some kind of scumbag run, using throwing knives, crossbows, firebombs and so on. Should I do that, or a soul maguc run I never did?

>>125764797
It's not "enchanted" per se, as in, no one did magicks on it on purpose, but during the course of the manga it gets pointed out how the sword has been absorbing dark energy / magic whatever from the demons Guts has killed and can no harm astral beings. So basically it kind of got enchanted unintentionally.

>>125764942
*can now

>>125764651
then again, it adds no special effects so it will only matter to you, so you might as well make it crystal

>>125764887
Sorcery is kinda boring in DS1.

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a flawless disguise

>>125765695
no it isn't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8byNAT-0URQ

He's worried about the PvP in DaS3.

>>125765695
More unsatisfying then boring. You lift a stick, wiggle it around, make a noise straight out of a Disney movie, and send a blue thing flying.
The only time it feels even remotely satisfying is when it hits something with low hp/poise like hollow warriors, where it actually feels like it has an impact.
But with spells like soul spear that just goes through enemies it feels like they die from a heart attack and not from the fucking focused pure energy spear piercing their chest.

I just did a 100% run of dark souls and I want to do pvp with a different character and I don't want to go through the entire game for a third time. Is there a tool to build a characters stats and items so i can pvp sooner?

why does everything take so long to poison
even with 2 casts of toxic mist and a +5 poison manslayer with sanctum gauntlet and rat ring i usually kill people before they even take a single tick of poison

>>125766889
>so long to poison
I've poisoned basically any enemy in the game except the obvious poison-resitant ones with 4 poison arrows, 5 tops

>>125766306
sorcery has 7 flavours of projectiles and 3 flavours of homing masses. anal beads is interesting and all the "buffs" allow some cool senanigans, but damage casting is boring. i feel like the only interesting way to play with high int is mlgs/mlbh

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>>125766570
>whining about ganks in the game with easiest gank spanks in the entire series
He was a whiny bitch in DS1 who munched divine blessings when someone backstabbed him, he's still a whiny bitch even now. He doesn't have any credibility when it comes to anything concerning pvp in souls games.

>>125767656
Aren't streamers always bad at pvp?

>>125768119
Does he even stream? I only remember him recording long-ass videos spewing some banal bullshit for 30 minutes, repeating the same phrases again and again and again for their entire duration.
He's also responsible for Rosie gaining popularity back in days.

>Tfw want to buy Dark Souls 3 collector's edition
>Tfw want to play immediately after it's released on steam

I haven't bought a physical copy of a game in years. Are these physical copies sent out on the release date, or before the release date so that you can load it in steam and play right as the servers open?

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>>125766570
>Thinks FROM should spend the same amount of time on PvE and PvP
>In a PvE-focused ARPG
>In a series famous for cheesy shitters

>>125768243
I don't know, I don't follow or care about e-celebs but its just my general impression that they're not good at PvP

>>125768807
PvPfags should just play a fucking fighting game already if they want a game where they can test their skills.

Guilty Gear Xrd just got ported to PC. They should play that and try their hand at getting good at that game. Or Street Fighter 5 when it comes out sometime next year.

PvP in Souls is a mistake.

>>125769197
PvP for pvp's sake really is a kind of a fish out of water, but the game is so much more fun with all the invading co-oping and other types of shenanigans.

>>125767105
Most enemies also die in 4 normal arrows

>>125766670
Anyone?

>>125769197
Arenafaggotry is the only thing that should be purged. I hope they will keep host HP advantage in DS3 as well so honor duels are impossible and the only type of pvp that is possible is either gank spanking or griefing or both at the same time.

>>125769197
>PvPfags should just play a fucking fighting game already if they want a game where they can test their skills.
Fighting games are nothing like Souls PvP and you know it.

>>125770352

This is what I hope, too. There was some talk about an arena, but they have been very quiet about it.

scrap SM based pvp (keep SM if you want, but do it as a neat irrelevant feature able to open doors or something, but use sl for pvp) and I'm happy

I am farming for Pure Bladestone in Demon's Souls
This shouldn't take as long as it has done and I know that the enemy I am farming is the one that drops the item
Does the Black Phantom version near the end of 4-2 have any higher chance of dropping it, or should I just keep at the hidden passage 2kat skeleton?

>>125770958
I would be fine with SM if it just counted the souls you have "on" you when you invade and just disable the inventory for phantoms.

>>125766570
>DaS pvp was good because of the poise and backstab system
jesus christ what a tool

>>125770667
No shit, fighting games have some semblance of balance

>>125770958
>SL matchmaking
No.
Fuck off twink.

>>125770352
wtf, no
arenas are the only thing that keeps honorfags outside regular pvp. the only problem is that it’s easier to find arena pvp than normal. they should loosen the area requirements more
>>125770958
sl is more flawed than sm for limiting twinks. it should be sm+some values for spells attuned and items carried, including items you can pick up but not items in the bottomless box and unattuned spells
>>125771006
i dont play des but i thought pure black gave more and better drops, no?

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PvP is just there to spice up the single player experience a bit by having random, unpredictable encounters. It's not really meant to stand on its own merit.

The scope of what From is trying to accomplish with the game is far too large to dedicate too much time and effort to making a balanced competitive experience.

>>125771614
it does, and I have pure black
however, there are 2 versions of this enemy, one is normal and one is a black phantom
I am wondering if they have the same drop rate, if the black phantom version has a better chance of dropping pure bladestone, I'll farm it happily even if it takes a little longer
however, if it doesn't then I'll just farm the normal 2kat skelly because it's quicker

>every gear piece has a number on it telling you how good it is
>this number and SL combined wasn't used for pvp
>the total amount of souls gained, even if lost or spent on consumables that don't benefit you anymore, was

>>125771687
>PvP is just there to spice up the single player experience a bit by having random, unpredictable encounters. It's not really meant to stand on its own merit.
Which is exactly why the DS2 system of no healing for phantoms other than spells was so good, it encouraged hyper aggression because if you play the midrange chip game the host could just chug, but if push came to shove you could always run away hide behind enemies and cast a long spell but you couldn't really do it in combat.
As an invader you waited for the host somewhere or just ran into him, then fought until one of you died and the whole ordeal would be over fairly fast

>ds1
>carry huge amount of souls around
>meh, if i die i can just farm them back, mildly annoying

>ds2
>carry huge amount of souls
>oh fuck if i die i'm going to be fucked over forever and have to restart oh fuck

>with agape ring both games have twinks anyway

>>125771924
>oh fuck if i die i'm going to be fucked over forever and have to restart oh fuck

A thing only PvPfags had to worry about

Sorry in advance if i'm asking something that is asked daily.

I enjoy these games but i'm really bad at them. What is the most casual easy mode build for pve in ds2?

I bought sotfs at launch and got through the main game, it was a struggle but I made it. but the in the dlc I cannot even beat the first boss in the first dlc. I ended up just setting the game aside for the time. Now i'm interested in giving it another shot. so what can a casual like me do to get through the dlc?

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>>125772015
>playing DaS2 for the pve

>>125771810
The issue with that would be that weapon levels even in DS2 cost next to nothing when compared to leveling up, a +10 weapon is worth far more than a single level but both cost the same amount of souls past the 60 level range

The easiest fix would just have every upgrade add a +1 to your SL matchmaking, a +10/15/whatever weapon and level 50 would be just as strong as a level 60/65.

>>125771924
>ds1 fuck If I don't plan my build ahead of time I can't do anything and I can't level anything differently
>ds2 well I could use some more of any stat I'll just get it and net get fucked over by absurdly high level costs later

If you were doing a casual playthrough then Soul Memory didn't count for shit, if you were doing a PvP character then you shouldn't be randomly dying to enemies twice in a row anyway

>>125771924
Lost several million souls in DaS2, it never mattered.

>>125772093
I'd say a high vitality sword and shield character. That way you have every defensive option in the game available to you.

This is assuming you want to play the game instead of cheesing everything with magic and bows.

>>125772015
after a point you will be constantly be invaded by full havels fastrollers

>>125772093
Any weapon that you are confortable with that doesn't deal elemental damage. The enemies in the DLCs have high elemental resist, so you want a pure physical for that.

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>>125772138
>playing DaS2

>>125772093
50 str
havels shield and mastodon halberd
everything else is w/e

>>125772093
Grab any rapier (ricards and Ice Rapier are worse but still workable) pump ADP until you get 99/105 AGL, 2 hand your rapier and just R1/R2 shit to death, if you can stagger an enemy with a strong attack then just mash him to death before he can attack you, if you can't stagger with a strong attack then roll 1 attack and them mash them to death.
Ring of Blades and Leo Ring make life a lot easier

>>125772242
>fastrollers
Go away DS1 babby unlike your shit game 2 doesn't have a breakpoint for fastrolling.

>want to get Dark Souls 3 on PC so I can enjoy silky smooth 60 fps
>I probably need to spend $600-700 at the very least to buy a gaming PC that can play this game at that framerate with a decent resolution (like a minimum of 720p)
>don't have that money

I really hope that the hardware prices go down by April so that I can get this game on PC. I really don't want to spend $350 to buy a PS4 that will only play the game at a cinematic 25 fps. I have the $350 but I don't want to buy this stupid piece of plastic.

Being poor sucks.

>>125772458
it has one for fat

Is the Elite Knight Armor confirmed for DS3?

So my girlfriend wants to play DS2 with me but I doubt I can convince her to buy it. Is there any way we can play together with hamachi or something if she pirates it?

>>125772669
So?
Are you telling me that someone at 69% equip load is "fastrolling" buddy? Besides you are full of shit anyway, even if we take the DS1 breakpoint you would need 200 equip load for JUST havels set with no weapons, at 99 Vit you have 120.

>>125772784
just buy it for her, man. christmas is around the corner

>>125772905

true, I just feel like she will be disappointed with it as an xmas gift.

>>125772936
Oh no 20 americabucks down the drain whatever shall you do?

>>125772865
the point is that even if you dont care about pvp, bloating your sm nets you high level invaders. also, havel’s&rofap.

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>>125772138
>Not doing so
>MFW

>>125772242
Not if I don't go to NG+3 or so, which I rarely do. Besides, I usually just alt+F4 out of invasions, I got sick of dealing with shitters in DeS and it's not any better now.

>>125773272
>havel’s&rofap.
>SM
>rofap
Anon
Anon
anon

Why do people who literally never even touch DS2 insist on talking about it?
Bloating your SM leads to high level invaders
Bloating your SL leads to high level invaders
and neither even matters because unless its a dedicated PvP build the invader is going to be have the advantage anyway

>>125772905
>DS2
the worst gift you can give

I want to use a crypt blacksword on my faith build. Will infusing it with lightning and sunlight blading it just be wasteful? Should I just use in unimbued? What's the best way to go about this?

>>125773272
That's what soft caps are for.
You can easiliy defend against maxlevels at SL150.

>>125771006
I'm pretty sure the best option is the latter. I got mine last night when I was on my way to the Primeval Demon. I was pretty annoyed I didn't get it on my DEX character using the Sharp Flamberge, but hey at least I get the trophy.

>>125773465
Multiple elements are pretty good, as the opponent can only defend with one shield at a time.

>>125773419
hey man, you don’t know about anonette’s preferences i mean she IS anon’s gf

>>125772936
A friend and I are gifting each other Legacy of the Void, so it's not like yours is the worst choice in regards to vidya.

>>125773757

sweet, this will be fun.

>>125773680
thanks, I'll keep doing it then
I hope it drops soon

>>125774073
Keep in mind that people switch rings/shields according to your buff, so don't have the same element as infusion.

>>125774424

How about if I cast sunlight blade with it fire infused? 4 damage types!

>>125774493
I don't know how useful it would be to be good at everything but master at none in this case

>>125774493
Wet enemies take less damage from fire, so watch out.

>decide play Dark Souls again
>remember Blighttown

>>125775601
blighttown ain't shit

>>125775601
>grab master key
>skip 80% of it

>>125775601
Unless you're a consolepleb, you just have bad taste if you don't find Blighttown enjoyable.

Now, having to redo the Bed of Chaos, on the other hand...

>>125776192

>you just have bad taste if you don't find Blighttown enjoyable

Not that guy, but I played on PC and Blighttown is just a slog. The only enjoyment you get from it is beating Quelaag and not having to come back

I'm trying to come up with a Pyromancy alternative set of gear for my spellsword build. Any recommendations for a melee weapon?

I have 19 str/22 dex atm. Mostly going to use it for PVE. Anything with nice fire scaling?

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>>125776192
>beating bed of chaos without dying
can't wait for bed of chaos 2.0 in DS3

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>>125776370
I find it fun. You get a real sense of depth for where you are in the world, specifically in relation to Firelink which is just above you, and then it's cool to go even deeper past Quelaag. The shanty towns built onto the walls and gigantic buttresses are cool and give a great vertical layout to the level.

>>125776529

I think as a part of the world it's cool, yeah. But playing it is just fairly pants

>>125776448
>y alternative set of gear for my spellsword build. Any recommendations for a melee weapon?
>I have 19 str/22 dex atm. Mostly going to use it for PVE. Anything with nice fire scaling?
Which game? If it's DS2, the smelter great sword is a good choice if you like heavy weapons. There is also all the black knight stuff.

>>125776621
I liked playing it. Using the spider shield to block the toxic darts and shit.

>>125776782
Yeah, DS2. I'm wondering if I should add some points 2H the Smelter Sword or BK items. Or maybe just infuse a low stat requirement greatsword like Mirrah GS.

>>125777149
try lost sinner's

Why are dragonbros the only covenant with honor?

>>125777149
Use the Key to the Embedded anon. Has fantastic dex scaling, highest counter damage of any greatsword, and weights only 4 units.

Not sure if it can be buffed though, and I know it can't be infused (or upgraded).

>dukes dear fridge has 3 npc summons

wat. why

>>125777481
Every time I summon a dragon spirit they run off into the level or estus over and over again.

>>125777620
Not the guy you're replying to, but I was really disappointed when I found out I couldn't upgrade the key. Currently running a 40/40 quality build, but I may use a soul vessel and redistribute some of my strength levels so I can use this shit.

>>125777481
I find plenty of honourable reds on the bridge is DS2, you can host a fight club and 1/10 will attack you rather than duelling.

>>125777941
Just go 40 dex and 15 or whatever str it needs to wield.

>>125777869
You can estus too

>>125778104
This. My rule for any PvP match is "if they heal, I heal.", otherwise I don't chug if they haven't already.

is the BKH PvP viable?

>>125778720
In DaS1? Maybe if you REALLY know what you're doing or can backstab fish adequately, but it's better suited as the best PvE weapon.
In DaS2? It's meh-tier all around even in PvE.

>>125778720
For which game? Guess it doesn't matter since the BKH is one of the better halberds in both games.

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I got burnt out with DaS2 after clearing all the DLC. Never bothered with scholar of the first sin. I suspect I MAY have been softbanned at one point for savescumming when a CEfag fucked with my game. I noticed that invasions were oddly scarce, but still happened. It was around the height of the whole softban mania.

If I am indeed banned, will that carry over to scholar, or is it just for the original game? I'd like to know before blowing 20 bucks.

>>125779104
Scholar counts as a different game, so even if you use the same steam account your ban won't carry over.
I got softbanned in vanilla DaS2 as well, bought Scholar when it came out, was able to connect to people just fine.

>>125779104
I think it wouldn't since they're actually counted as separate games, but you should wait for the winter sale, you might be able to get it for 5 bucks since it'd be the sale discount ontop of the "already own everything else" discount

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>>125779295
>>125779336
Thanks, anons. I think I'll grab it then.

>>125779390
Be careful, I think one of the new enemy placements if you can use DirectX11 has a horse in the castle

What the fuck is the point of raw weapons?

>>125779104
If you were softbanned, you'd be seeing no activity whatsoever. There were never enough people softbanned at any one time for there to be any real activity at any sm tier, and it was so trivially easy to evade that a population never picked up.

The 'softban mania' was mainly reddit being paranoid and building a mountain out of a molehill because "omg guize xd i loaded into iron bridge and there were only 10 signs!!! but when i tried to summon they all failed T.T am i band??!?!?!"

Softbans were never widespread, and if you were bunned, you'd have been seeing no online activity whatsoever, especially not invasions. Savescumming was never a ban trigger.

>>125779854
If you're using a melee weapon when you aren't planning on leveling str or dex any time soon to take advantage of scaling bonuses, raw is the way to go

>>125779854
for when you have the bare minimum stats and have to 2 hand something

>>125779854
In DaS1 it's fucking worthless.
In DaS2 it actually results in a net gain in AR over other infusions depending on the weapon thanks to the way it fucks with the scaling. Examples are the Spitfire Spear and Watcher Greatsword.

>>125744904
>talking smack about the hat
back the fuck off kiddo before i slap you with my 10 inch mage dick

>>125780105
in ds1, raw isn't useless, it's early game. not early in way of stats but in material availability. it only takes 9 shards, 10 l.shards and no very large ember to make a weapon similar to an +12

Hey guys i loved dark souls 1 for mostly the atmosphere and level design.

is bloodborne the best in the series for atmosphere? wondering whether to get it or not - thanks

>>125780602
I suppose, it's mediocre in every other category though.

>>125780602
I wouldn't say that it's the best in the series for atmosphere. DaS1 and DeS are still better games. It's good, though. If you have a PS4, you should jump on that shit, especially now that the DLC dropped.

>>125780773
Is there anymore planned DLC down the pipe? Or have they confirmed this is the only addon? I don't want to get nickle and dimed.

>>125781104
This is the only add-on. They originally had 2 planned, but scrapped the second and rolled it into the one we got.

There's a general for BB, you should go ask them about it.

>>125780602
i think bloodborne map is too big, everything is so giant, there's a lot of houses and big libraries, while in dark souls 1 and demon's souls the world is quite small, and i like that. Also, bloodborne is very grey, and easy to get lost and miss items and places because of that.

>>125781146
You think DS3 will have dlc, its the final one in the series so you'd think they'd have the conclusion in the base game

>>125781357
DS3 will have DLC, they got to milk all the money they can out of the last game in the series.

>>125781357
It depends. Most of the time the DLC is because the game gets rushed and the DLC is half cut content, and half unfinished content that they finish.

If DeS had dlc we would probably know what's up with that archstone.

So let's just hope that they aren't rushed (which let's face it, they definitely are. It hasn't even been a year).

>>125781357
Considering every dlc they've made has printed money, signs point to yes.

>>125779854
Also if you are using a no-scaling weapon like the Old Knight great hammer, there is no point in not going raw, it just adds damage with no penalty.

>>125781463
>(which let's face it, they definitely are. It hasn't even been a year).
Wasn't DaS3 supposed to be WIP since DaS2 was mid-development or something?

>>125781902
Who would of worked on it? Miyazaki was on BB, and Tanimura was just assigned to ds2. So was it Shibuya? The guy who ruined ds2?

>>125781902
>>125782113
Though it's hard, a producer can produce two games at once.

Can you power stance a greatsword and a longsword together?

Am I a bad person for using Bad Dragon weapons?

>>125782580
Yes
http://darksouls2.wikidot.com/dual-wielding

It will use the greatsword moveset if i'm not wrong.

>>125782832
>Bad Dragon weapons
What, like a dragon dildo on a stick?

>>125783024
Thats what Black Dragon weapons are, right? Someone puts up their shield and you shove that Bad Dragon Sword right up their ass bypass their defense.

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How are you going to name your first character for playing DaS3?

>>125782832
>caring about being a bad person

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>blue smelter at ng+8

fuck this gay earth

>>125783325
my online name?!?!?

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>>125783325
THE LEGEND
And it's totally gonna be exactly what you think.

>>125783325
will the PC version be able to show your in-game name and not your steam name?

>>125783325
It's gonna be a name having to do with fire
>The One who Carried On
>Burnin' for Me
>The Human Torch
something stupid like that

>>125769197
invasions are a great part of the games and set the games apart from others ever since demon's souls

fight clubs and other honoraburu dueru shit should not be catered to

>>125783673
Then you realize Miyazaki made DaS3 version of the Giant's Armor and Mask of The Father completely useless to troll the fanbase like he usually loves to do.

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>>125783325
Inle-Rah.

>>125780602
DeS and Bloodborne have the best atmosphere

>>125783673
this post reeks of reddit

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>>125783325
Dark Souls

First playthrough
after anor londo I went to the skeleton cemetery, beat pinwheel, found the "lose my focus" skeleton smith, but I got stuck in the giant skeletons zone, as in, couldnt beat them using the lantern to see instead of a shield.

So I teleported to firelink shrine, and went to new londo ruins, just beat the 4 Kings boss.

Do I teleport to the bonfire in the skeleton zone to see if I can beat the giant skeletons after Pinwheel, or do I go to somewhere else first?
I kinda cheated to see how people were beating the giant skeletons in youtube, and the first video I found they were using a spell to illuminate the area, and in the other video they were using a hat to illuminate the area.
I cant get the spell I think because I am using only melee and have not spent any experience in intelligence or faith, but perhaps I can get the hat later in the game and go later to the giant skeletons zone.

I have killed the giant wolf, but havent gone yet to the zone after Queelag and the former orange door in Anor Londo.

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>can grow beard by altering jaw but....

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Where can I find the knight armor in scholar of the first sin?

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>>125784338
...if he ever shaves...

>>125784268
>4 kings
literally what?

>>125784387
The tunnel before no mans warf
Blocked by a branch of yore statue (you also get an estus flask shard)

>>125784387
Pretty sure it's in the same spot as it was in vanilla, after the Dragonrider fight before you get to No-Man's Wharf, but you need to use a Fragrant Branch to get it now iirc.

>>125784268
Yeah I recommend to get the light hat (it's called the Sunlight Maggot) by doing Lost Izalith before the Tomb of the Giants.

>>125784614
>>125784621
fugg those branches are so hard to get

>>125784590
the white dudes in the abyss, there are many of them, perhaps I dont remember the name correctly.
You have to wear the ring you get from killing the wolf.

>>125784663
The hag sells one and there is one in the warf

>>125783772
Don't see any reason why not. Both Das2 and BB have character names.

>>125783772

Maybe we can choose, like in Bloodborne.

>>125784773
reported for offtopic.

>>125783925
Grima wormtongue/10

>>125784860
>white faggot hair

>guy summons me as a red phantom
>keeps healing

separation crystal bitch

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>tfw 4shitstain is dead and feeding worms for more than a year now and will never get to play DaS3
>in the meantime, we'll be playing the shit out of it and enjoying a proper Souls game as it should be
>Menas will return with his glorious art, as well as other shining pillars of community, and the family circle will reunite again
Makes me feel all warm and cozy inside.

>>125785381
Estus is slow as fuck. If you're bad enough to let them heal and not punish it, you deserve it.

First playthrough of Dark Souls, wow is it ever fun! I just beat the Four Kings, they're probably my new favourite boss after Sif.

>>125784773
sorry can't remember any shit like this in Dark Souls. Perhaps you confused it with some other game.

So what's the deal with gods in Dark Souls?

Are they the hollow guys in the earth (what ever those are in the intro) who just found lord souls? Do have souls like that just transform you?

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