/vtg/ Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide General:

we ded

>>125698476
Think there were like 3 new LoL threads created at once or something, that killed us

>tfw not getting drops all day
>get two great rolls in a row
>melee elf weapons, the one character I never play
Is the sword (without dagger) any good for the elf? Might as well give it a try

I keep making new Mordheim saves instead of just playing one through

Haven't even seen the elites or 3rd heroes for any army yet

So when do you get impressive units in Mordheim? I really want my ROgre.

>>125699356
>sword (without dagger)
Hahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaha

>>125700757
Around warband level 5.

>>125701269
Oh well, got some shit to trade up with

>>125700757
>Rogre
You better have a fucking good wizard to control it

>>125702147
>general died
D E A D G A M E

HOLY SHIGMAN

BLESH THIS RAVAGED BUDDY

>>125702547
I genuinely thought he said "holy shit man" at first

>>125702585
that is possible if you never heard the word Sigmar before

Let's autistically post class ideas/loadouts

Light Wizard
Staff 1: time slow primary(players move at normal speed), Bolt staff esque secondary except hitscan

Staff 2: generic magic missle primary(think drakefires with balls of light), light net secondary. Ensnares small groups of rats or single specials and disables them for 2/4/6/8 seconds depending on staff quality. Rogres always break free after 2 seconds, high "heat" generation per net

Staff 3: Essntially group speed potion primary, secondary casts small protective bubble. Rats inside the bubble during the cast get damaged and flung out ala a shove, and melee hits from outside are blocked with damage reflection. Rattling shots are reflected back and gas won't seep in. Rogres shatter the bubble.

Based off Birona's Timewarp & Banishment, Shem's Burning Gaze & Net of Amyntok, The Speed of Light & Pha's Protection

>>125702754
Dunno what but I want something bretonnian

Never got to play them as a kid

>>125702754
Sounds pretty powerful, but also not terribly entertaining to play, to be honest. His abilities sound like Dota abilities. While a support-heavy character would be cool, I feel like it would make the game much easier, almost too easy with what it's giving. Plus, seems to lack killing potential. BW supports, but supports by slaughtering rats. If all the Light Wizard is doing is protecting and disabling, kinda takes away from the merciless carnage.

Sorry, don't mean to nitpick

>>125702754
Don't know enough about Warhammer fantasy to suggest new characters, but just having a motherfucker with a halberd doesn't seem too out of the ordinary.

Seriously. Why don't medieval fantasy video games ever feature any fucking polearms. Is a pokey stick really that hard to program.

All these sound bugs are killing me

It feels like I never have more than half of the proper sounds

>>125703547
That was kind of what I was going for. I wanted every staff to have some sort of offensive capabilty and 1 support ability instead of a pure offense staff and pure support staff. Basically give every staff some way of dealing with specials.

Light Wizards on the tabletop are much more support oriented and everything is based off what a TT light wizard could do. Shield bubble is a bit modified but hey that's all I had to work with.

>>125703768
The irony is that the halberd is probably the most common/iconic weapon of empire troops.

>>125704290
What would the melee weapons for the character be?

>>125704787
It really depends on the race of the character. A tomb king liche priest would have different melee than an elf or human.

Honestly it doesn't matter a whole lot, he'd have some slashy stuff and/or some bashy stuff, none of which will be terribly different than what's already in the game.

>>125702754
I want a white lion character, who has a lion pet that goes after enemies (if they're tagged) but otherwise can take take down ratmen.

He should have no hp or hitbox (bc his ai will probably be shit)

Kerilian should have a crush on him, and Kruber should be jealous

>>125705424

>>125705424
>uses the same code as truflight
>lion spinning around a rogre at the speed of sound

>>125699356

All the weapons are viable really, but you'd be much better off with the sword and dagger or dual swords.

>>125705424
>kruber
>jealous
The man is way too much of a bro to be jealous.

>>125701710
>>125702147
Thanks guys

All right, hear me out (those with elf hatred need not apply).
Perhaps Kerillian is a bitch to keep the others at a distance. Half the time she's incessantly snarky and sarcastic, but the other half she shows some real concern for the others. Take the dwarf and Kruber for example. As bitchy as she is to them, she still shows some warmth toward them, albeit once they die.
>"Go proudly, son of Karak Norn."
When Bardin bites it, and
>"I'm going to miss him, a little."
When Kruber goes.
I say she's just a wench to keep them at arms length, keep them away from her secrets, such as why she's away from her woods. Why IS she there, have we found that out yet?

>>125708448
Or maybe she's a bitch 'cause she straight up made fun of Bardin's dead family.

Someone was asking about hat codes in the last thread.

Use this:
forum.cheatengine.org/download.php?id=114833

Open it up, it has every exotic in the game listed, as well as hats and red tier items. When you spawn something you have to open your inventory at least once for it to be added properly.

If you want to remove items (If you care about having duplicates of stuff like hats that can't be salvaged) use this in the lua injector.


local itemName = "wh_1h_axe_0012"
for k,v in pairs(backend_items._items) do
if(v.key == itemName) then
BackendUtils.remove_item(v.backend_id)
end
end

Replace the 'wh_1h_axe_0012' part with the item code you want to remove. ie. 'wh_hat_0004'

This will remove every under that code from your inventory.

Here is a listing of the traits on each weapon and its code:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1r7ySwkjfMxR2dxSmt1cXhXc0U/view?pref=2&pli=1

>>125708448
She follows the smell of rat cum, wherever it may be.

One of the exchanges kruber, saltz and kerilian can have is where kruber makes a prediction that she's intentionally mysterious to hide the fact that she lacks substance.

Dam near chortled.

I just got dropped over an instakill ledge by a packmaster

woooo

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>>125710139

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>packmaster hooks were real
How horrifying

>>125711291
Are those for catching people alive or dead? It looks quite lethal.

>>125711503
It's non-lethal

>>125711503
Alive. You're not supposed to be stupid enough to try to struggle after getting hooked.

>>125711503
It's non-lethal if used on someone armoured

>>125711503
The only people valuable enough to catch alive for ransom were heavily armored knights. Filthy peasants were killed by it.

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so i'm already tired of the drops and worthless shitters, is there a save editor so i can get the equipment i want without having to suffer retards constantly

>>125702996
>Never got to play them as a kid
What's stopping you now?

>>125715180
http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=586138

>>125715318
Time, money, lack of a local warhammer scene, lack of interest in a game that has big flaws

>>125715468
Fair enough.

>lack of interest in a game that has big flaws
If you're too lazy to houserule AoS and build it into your own thing or even pick out interesting scenarios (as the intention is), there are still plenty of splinters of 8th Ed communities.

>>125715691
I was actually talking about 8th ed but the flaws do carry over into AoS

There's just fundamental problems with the game that other products (with no players here) have improved on

>>125715846
There are flaws with every game, and whilst I'm not saying Warhammer isn't the most flawed game of it's style (both 40K and Fantasy were never known for their balance) it's the main way to play stuff in those settings, and each game has enough rule of cool in it and whatnot to still enjoy.

>>125715319
not what i'm looking for, chief. was looking for something like gibbed's save editor for borderlands that allowed me to directly create items with the traits that i wanted

thanks anyways tho

>>125716574
thats what i linked you family


ScriptBackendItem.award_item("trinket_poison_attack_tier3")

for example

replace trinket etc with any weapon, heres the list of all possible

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1r7ySwkjfMxR2dxSmt1cXhXc0U/view

dead edition

>>125716780
fuck me for being retarded then

thanks broseph stalin

>>125708651
Not saying she isn't a bitch overall, just saying she may just be putting on an act half the time.

>>125719847
>haha guys got you I was only pretending to be a huge bitch!

>>125702147
you don't need a wizard just a leader with the guidance skill (wiz get this for free tho)

>join game
>awaiting rescue
well that sucks

then they wiped

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>>125724645

>decide to gamble some exotics for saltz since I had a bunch of tokens and nothing to use them for
>get a couple rapiers with some nice traits (better than what I was using)
>get absolute trash rolls on them so they're not worth using

I think it's time to start using cheat engine.

Is blunderbuss worse than the grudge raker? I hated the raker and I'm not sure if I want to bother fusing some I have instead of scrapping them.

we need to dump pics to keep this thread alive

ded as ded

>>125716780
Any chance you have a list of trinkets on hand?

>>125734583
>tfw no Kerillian lewds to bump with

>>125734843
Fuck elves.

>>125734993
Yeah, that's the goal.

>>125698380
>vermintide got me so into warhammer that I'm now in a warhammer 2e game.

Playing a ratcatcher senpai.

>>125734750
https://mega.nz/#F!EVhTiQCJ!gTnBE5GzuN990zDkmh-RQQ
download item list, trinkets are on the very bottom

>>125737765
aaaaaaaaaaaay thanks breh

Are explosive bombs better than fire bombs?

>>125743204

I think it's explosive bombs are good for storms and ogres, while firebombs are good for hordes.

>>125734843
I want to make a comic where kruber and kerilian are banging, kerilian says "crude but effective seargeant" and kruber does his generic "you like that?!"

>>125702754
I think one of long drongs slayer pirates would make a cool character. He could have some dual wield options like two axes, axe/hammer, and maybe a 1h axe that has throwing weapons usable in the same fashion as the rapiers pistol. Ranged weapons could include any type of dwarven firearms, and maybe throwing axes.

>>125749014

Hell, if you wanted a DLC pack, a bunch of mercenaries from the Dogs of War book'd be fun.

>Al Muktar's Desert Dogs
>Beorg Bearstruck and the Bearmen of Urslo
>Birdmen of Catrazza
>Mengil Manhide's Manflayers
>Lumpin Croop's Fighting Cocks
>Vespero's Vendetta

And so on

rats

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post yfw you hear the marching sounds of stormvermin patrol

And you don't have any bombs handy

>>125755973
Just avoid them, jesus. Or use a mastercrafted rupture handgun and rek their shit.

>>125755973
Why would you need to bomb a stormvermin patrol when they are usually incredibly easy to avoid?

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>>125755973
>mfw those shitters who ignore the rest of the group and go rambo a patrol to lose their grimoire and cost us several health packs

>>125755973
I FUCKING CHUG MY LEAN AND RUN RIGHT AT THE FUCKERS ON CATACLYSM

One day they will be worth fighting and you will have to LEARN-LEARN if you want LOOTS man-thing.

People actually fight the Patrols?
I mean I kill them on hard, normal and easy because why not, but there's no reason anyone should ever even see them up close in NM and Cata..

>>125760924
Depending on timing there's some spots where they're unavoidable.

>>125761003
Idk Patrols and Ogres don't really run on an RNG system, like there are 3 or 4 places on each map where one or the other can happen, but they will never be as random as the other specials.

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Anyone else curious about how the ever-promised survival mode will work?

Map where you have to fight 2 ogres at once when?

>>125761003
>tfw the patrol turns around and starts walking forawards through the map
>stuck awkwardly following them and hoping they don't turn around

>>125761268
You'll survive as long as you can and then stop surviving

>>125761536
fucking incredible

>>125761268
Jeff Probst replaces all rats

>>125761268

I wonder how they're gonna handle loot dice in them, since I assume that they'll let you get loot in survival mode. Are you gonna get progressively better dice at the end the longer you survive? Are they gonna let you take tomes and grims at the start?

I played blackpowder recently

Wow they really fucked this map, only two barrels at once? Why?

>>125762734
They should do something along the lines of what warframe did. Wave based, you get a break and reward every X number of waves, and you can either bug out or stay for more. Make it to wave 10 you get both the wave 5 and 10 rewards, 15 gets you 3 items, die on wave 18 and you lose everything etc.

Gotta let people leave individually though and have either a bot takeover or the next set not start until everyone remaining readies up.

>pounced by runner
>team kills him
>3rd person recovery animation starts
>pounced again before I can even move by a 2nd runner
>team shoves him off but doesn't kill him
>packmaster comes around the corner and grabs me during that recovery animation
>team kills PM pretty quickly, no biggie
>pounced by that MIA second assassin during the packmaster recovery
Jesus christ that had to have been at least 20 solid seconds where I just had to sit there and watch my character get raped over and over, and I wasn't even playing the elf. Why are the recovery animations so damn long anyway?

>>125763486
Maybe they couldn't figure out a way to fix the exploits, so they just fucked the spawning up instead?

>>125763486
>>125765151
I don't play that map but I believe it was to stop people just loading all 8 in one go and making the map easily farmable.

>click on nm engine lobby
>loading screen says hom normal
>drop in
>it's hom hard
>get attacked by invisible rats

good game

I've stopped receiving the green items on level-up since level 168.

Is this the NASTY SURPRISE?

>>125769361
I've stopped receiving them since 80

>>125771339
Pro elf indeed.

Why is elf even popular, when BW is clearly the ezmode class with beam staff?

>>125771994
Elf is a shitter bait unlike BW.

Anyone has a spreadsheet with all the values? I feel like Kruber's 2h hammer is slower than Bardin's. But I also feel Kurber is overal slower but that must be due to his size.

>>125773768
You're wrong, both 2h hammers are using one file for their stats.

>>125752398
I fucking loved dogs of war, it'd just come out when I got into WH as a kid

Shame they discontinued it

>>125771994
Because they dual wield
DW is always the popular class

Annoying for me because I'm still early in the game and all my fucking good loot has turned out to be elf drops, despite not playing the elf and using a character trinket

Can't ever play it and use said loot because elf is always picked

Nothing like seeing a promising game die due to colossal incompetence while shitty mobas and sacrilegious heresies like fallout 4 are buzzing with activity.

>>125781506
>fagshark
>promising

cuck

>>125781576
(you)

>>125761119
Stormweenies are a bit more flexible, I think. They probably spawn in a few specific places, but they can travel all over the damn place.

>some faggot loses 2nd grim for no good reason
>end mission
>1 off from getting an exotic

every time

>>125781506
Wait for freeweekend and some popular youtube guy to play / stream it and the game will be back on trail.

Full of shitters,but atleast.

>join hard because sick of hom and not feeling like doing normal
>unbelievable shitters and unbelievable lag
>fight lag the best I can
>carry their twice downed asses and one dead to the end

at least I hope I managed to get them closer to the hard achievement

>>125784726
we can play hard or nightmare right now if you want. what country you live in, boy

>>125784850
Isle of Man

>>125785946
Fuck off mate you're our province

>>125780720

Host a game and chose elf before anyone else does then.

>>125786515
I joined that game today and couldn't give 2 steps without warping around. I'm seeing lots of funny names I've never even heard aside from Malt.

I'm surprised they have games at all.

this shitty game really got me.

I still can't believe I've poured 420+ hours in it and ahve all achievements.

>mfw a low level elf camps the ammo box on the roof near the first well with his true flight while we're all defending the second well on Well Watch
>mfw he goes on to die not once, but three times
>mfw I have no face.

>>125789509
what lvl are you

>reaching end of a garden of morr nightmare run
>stormvermin patrol appears right before the wagon and we all get destroyed due to bullshit spawning

>>125792993
201

Saw a guy who was level 292 yesterday and another 107. We played a hard match with some poor 47(host).

It was surprisingly easy. Despite hard being ez mod.

>>125794616
>only 201
not enough exploiting 2bh

>>125795036
It's 5000xp forever after that. I think cata with two tomes and two grims yields a little over 3000.

If I wasn't sick of enemby bellow I could rack up more levels quickly.

I think a killing floor tier "endless defense" would be pretty nice. Or the actual survival(?) left 4 dead had. Or something where you need to grab parts and make a key or something.

Anything new. Game modes at least. Something.

JUST

>>125797562
Didn't they say they were going to add an endless defense with the free DLC?

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God, I love this game but the community is so autistic.

>>125807905
are there any games where it's the opposite?

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>finally get a 7 roll on nightmare
>worse in every way to existing 2h
oh boy

>>125809482
>yfw the addition of reds effectively make getting good items even harder than before
Goddamn Swedes

>>125810103
They didn't make it harder to get good gear, they just added another tier on top of it

>>125810817
Yeah and it's a tier full of shit. You now have to roll higher than all the low tier shit but lower than the red weapons. At least the red hats were something up to aesthetic taste rather than objectively inferior stats/traits.

Just had an ally repeatedly die because they flat out wouldn't drink their potion despite having white health

This happened three times

>>125812249

What level were they? Also was it on NM?

>>125812426
low level but like 8 or so meaning they've played for a few hours

I explained the entire mechanic to them step by step and they wouldn't do it.
I want to help new players but damn is it annoying sometimes

>>125812549
>level 8
It's safe to assume anyone below 50 is a brainless shitter, you'll be proven right more often than not. Don't even bother trying to help people like that out.

Karl Franz Ascendant when.

>>125815062
>tfw no resurrected Emperor Mandred Skavenslayer

Female ref eww

>>125816623
>King's name is Skavenslayer
>But Skaven don't exist guys really! Nothing to worry about, just drunken tales and beastmen.

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>>125818625

>>125821095
Skaven are fairly well accepted as dumb beastmen variants, the bit they keep under wraps is the massive world-spanning underground empire full of technological marvels.

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I want to marry the Bright Wizard, I don't care if she's easily twice my age.

>>125822161
wish you could change her robes
I think the flames on her clothing are silly

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>>125822889
What are you talking about. She's just following the /v/ clothing guide.

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>>125823583
I hate it

>>125822889
Bright wizards are not great at subtlety.

It's pretty fucking stupid that they haven't done the last 2 altar pages yet

DLC was pratically half of what it was meant to be

>>125825396
dead game 2bh, took them 2 months to release one page of the altar

d e a d

>>125825514
Apparently it's done but they're scared of fucking up the game while everyone is on Christmas vacation so they're withholding the patch.

>>125826795
tfw no xmas vacation

i only get 25th free

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I guess the game just really wants me to push

>game keeps giving me orange BW maces
>literally 4 in a row
>have the soldier trinket
>still getting the worst melee weapon for a class I never play

>keep getting beamed by a BW
>comment on how much FF damage it does without calling him out on it
>"oh this isn't Normal?"

>>125831337
>playing dwarf
>bw trinket
>3 different elf melee weapons in a row (on good rolls)
Trouble is I'm still on a white bow so I can't even make full use of the class

>BW ends a double grim run by overheating and blowing the whole party up
Jesus christ how dumb can you be?

Do most people run grims on Cata? I can pretty much carry shitters through double grim NM just fine but I don't want to join a cata game and turn into the shitter myself

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>have orange hammer with shitty traits
>pray for a ES melee, hoping to get one with better traits
>get a hammer
>neat
>see this
Th-Thanks Sigmar

>>125831514
Sometimes when you join Catas and NM's in progress, your load screen will tell you that you are joining normal mode. This game is shit.

>>125837927
You should still know what difficulty you're queuing up for.

>>125838168
If you're joining through the server browser it glitches out sometimes.
I've joined a bunch of games and ended up in different difficulties than I selected, and sometimes even different maps.

i just accidently salvaged old companion ;_;

>>125845009
Time to farm the reskin that turns it slightly red.

>>125845009

Pretty sure you could use cheat engine to get it back.

>>125846806
NASTY SURPRISE

>>125847263
What'd you mean?

How do I git gud with a cult of the possesed warband?

>>125845009
It's sort of odd that the default hats can be salvaged when there's no way outside of CE to get them back.

>>125852126
Wait, if you salvage a hat with nothing to take its place what does your character wear? Could you have hatless kruber like in the opening cinematic if you aren't in the steam group and have no other hats?

>>125852459
You can't salvage equipped items. It's surprising that hatless kruber isn't already available though. But he does already have the best selection of hats out of all the characters.

>>125847794
Dev posted that cheaters will be getting a "very nasty surprise very soon" but that was back in october. Most people figure they're bluffing or just too incompetent to implement anything meaningful.

>>125852570
Ah right, I forgot about that rule. Shame, the bald dorf gets a hatless hat but handsome kruber doesn't.

>join NM run as elf
>gun people down with Hagbane
>leave

I did this a few times, and I was having a good laugh about it. Now I just feel awful.

>>125854769
>griefing
>in a co-op game
That's just poor form really. Unless it's horn. Fuck people that still run horn all day, they deserve it.

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>>125852779
Kruber is my husbando no homo

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so a buddy bought me this game like a week ago

>90% of the games i've played have been horn because people beg to farm it and/or don't host anything else and i am fucking sick of it
>i haven't gotten anything better than a green because drops have been shit even though i've brought in more books than a fucking library
>elf is an unlikable bitch and ruins the bro-tier team dynamic that is wizard/hunter/soldier/ranger
>elf players are ALWAYS enormous faggot shitters because MUH MARKSMAN or MUH DUAL-WIELDING
>rat ogres have way too much health for their movement speed
>the game has so much potential and it's being squandered by the developers AND the community
>mfw

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>>125860348
>the game has so much potential and it's being squandered by the developers AND the community
Ain't that the truth.

>>125860728
It pisses me off because there's a lot of really clever shit. Bright Wizard's mechanics, for instance, or the special enemies. But at the same time there's so much GARBAGE.

I've heard about the NASTY SURPRISE and all I can think of is "L4D was never rife with cheaters because cheating wasn't necessary to be viable". I've finally given up and just CE'd the weapons that I wanted (thank you to the fine folks that discussed it earlier in the thread) - I'm having a reasonable amount of fun fighting mobs of enemies and enjoying the levels instead of constantly worrying about tomes and sucking RNG cock to get something mildly useful from dice.

If someone is somewhere around level 170 or more - are they a cheater? Or is it possible to get that high with for example grinding BP Cata exploit runs?

>>125852683
They deleted that post anyway. It's clear that they don't have anything planned.

And if they're gonna try and catch cheaters in the first place, it helps to have some kind of way to tell them apart from everyone else. Which they currently don't.

>>125861418
Well they were also worried about VAC with l4d I'm sure. I did run into a few cheaters in vs because the vs community was fucking cancer, but most people weren't going to risk being locked out of every source game.

>>125862137
It's possible, check their time played if you can.

Although at levels that high, it's more than likely they did do some sort of CE stuff for a while.

I saw one guy named Sigmar who was level 432.

What's a better rapier setup?
>bloodlust, swift slaying(normal), dev blow
>regrowth(normal), berserking, dev blow
I can't remember if regrowth caps at 7 or 10 for rapiers.
Also what's the ideal 2h hammer setup, bloodlust, dev blow, and what? Swift slaying charged has shit for proc chance, and you can't get both zerking and bloodlust so I have no idea what should go in that slot. Extra stamina? Maybe normal swift slaying for the high proc chance on ogres/storms?

>>125865131
I like Perfect Balance, Bloodlust, Devastating blow. I get a lot more value out of the defensive bonuses over something like swift slaying or berserking which never proc all that often for me.

>>125866875
I'd nasty surprise the loli-loli if you know what I mean-mean.

>>125852683
They made a few sanity checks on tokens/grims to try and stop CE modifications but now we have lua injections and I doubt they can fix that.

>>125866218
>>125865131
You're both retarded, the perfect setup is:
wh_fencing_sword_0232 Killing Blow(Normal Attack) Regrowth(Normal Attack) Off Balance

>>125865131
>can't remember if regrowth caps at 7 or 10 for rapiers
It caps at 5.

>ideal 2h hammer setup, bloodlust, dev blow, and what?
Safety In Numbers

>>125868963
She looks more teenaged than loli.

fuck everything with an unparryable attack
I guess I'm gonna need to train a dodge-tank specifically to fight rat ogres and those chaos fuckers

>>125878487
>She

>>125879519
Yes, "loli" refers to young girls. Hence, why I assumed he was talking about the girl on the far right, who looks more low-teens, rather than the younger boy on the left.

>>125834431
enemy bloew

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>>125879596
Japanese terms are so difficult, enjoy complementary rat.

>>125879850
no problem kouhai, feel free to ask your sempai whenever you need assistance

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>>125845009
It's ok senpai. 00 are the default hats.

>>125851182
play it like skaven

>>125862137
>Let you skip right to the end
The White Rat.
Garden of Morr.

>Could glitch enemies
Black Powder.
The Horn of Magnus.

>Still easy to do legit on cata.
The Enemy Bellow.
Smuggler's Run.

I'm sorry that you were late to the party but some time ago you could finish cata runs in no time and get 3500xp each 7 minutes or so.

Besides, once you reach a certain level the amount of xp required to level up is capped at 5000 which equals 2 or 3 runs in nightmare.

>>125880164
>using unobtainable hats
its like ure asking for NASTY SURPRISE

does view players just not work in this game?

there's so many people I wantto block

>>125880949
There won't be a crackdown until they start selling the hats themselves

It's not even worth trying to educate new players.

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>>125885608
the amount of scum is truly high but so it is on any game

change your mentality when playing with pubs, you are the only player who can be trusted, don't even bother telling people where health or ammo always spawn

>>125885608
Worked pretty fine for me, though I'm just giving simple advice.

>"If you didn't see, T lets you mark things blue and callout."
>"Strength pots make bombs and your ranged weapons do more too."
>"You can cancel heavy attacks with block."
>"Most rat ogre attacks are pretty easy to dodge if you watch."

Just all that good stuff that it helps to pick up quick.

>>125865131
How's the red rapier?

>>125887694
its garbage, looks nice though. shame we wont be able to reroll red weapons

>>125887847
Do you at least get more shards from chucking them into the pot?

>>125888305
Yep
>>125887847
What's should I be hoping for in a rapier then for exotic?

>>125889496
read
>>125871127

>>125888305
twice as normal exotic

which staff is worth using ?
i see mostly the beam or the aoe getting spammed, are the other type good enough too ?

i never play as the fire bitch but i have two orange staff for her

even kfg is more alive than this

>>125893701
beam is the best, there's literally no reason to use the others

>>125894279
what makes it the best?

>>125896015
fuck you thats what

>>125896015
cba to explain, just use and trust me

>>125896015
Ticks every .5 seconds, making it do tons of damage and stunlock specials. Also, high accuracy and you get to blame your teammates if they walk into the big ass lazer. Also the little shotgun prmary does no FF damage.

>>125896015

Lots of range with the beam part, and the left-click shotgun blast is instant in a wide cone. Bonus for the shotgun click not doing friendly fire damage in nightmare+. The beam can also wreck rat ogres.

What's the best red tier weapon?

>>125897072
trueflight

>>125897072

Bardin and Kruber handguns seem to be the only non-trash.

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>>125896015
makes ogres a joke even on nightmare

>>125897468
>no extra ammunition
>not trash

ogre character when

>>125898228
>extra ammunition

A craftsman needs only one shot, 'raki.

>>125898228
the fuck you need extra ammo on a hadngun, dont tell me youre kill slaverats with it le elf style

>>125897072
elven sword and dagger, literally perfect traits and 10% regrowth proc chance (normally it's 5%)

>>125898228

non-trash != ideal

They're useable if you don't have an orange that has better traits to suit.

What are best traits for brace of pistols?

>>125898725
Haste/Hail of Doom/Skullcracker

>>125898479
>le elf style
jesus this reddit meme needs to die already

>>125898479
>perfect traits
>no devastating blow
enjoy that black rat dick, elf.

>>125898820
>hail of doom
>extra shot that doesn't even hit where you're aiming

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>It's literally easier to farm nightmare with bots than retarded players

Why they can't pick up tomes/grim again?

>>125898473
Cata constantly throws specials at you plus there's always storm to kill.

>>125900870
>they can't
gut gud

>>125900870
They can pick up tomes if they have no healing item, but will ditch them once they find health. They can't pick up potions, so that means they wouldn't bother with grims either. Like how L4D2 bots couldn't use melee.

>>125900513
Regrowth>Devastating Blow

and hail of doom is perfect, it will still hit ogre in the head because its head is huge and sometimes you gotta hit ogre on the body anyway, it's not like you can always get perfect headshots hence the Skullcracker trait.

>>125901426
You can play BW and burn them with beam to force them to use their healing items and pick tomes again.

>>125901426
They also don't pick up bombs, how hard is that to code? And why not give tomes the priority? Since you can use medikits to heal them anyway, not that they really need it.

>>125901583
That's actually a good idea, didn't think of it, I'll do that.

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>>125901627
Because they didn't expect people to be autistic enough to play with bots, bots are supposed to fill for that disconnected player for a minute or two.

You guys are pure essence of autism, why play coop games at all?

>>125901767
>You guys are pure essence of autism, why play coop games at all?

Not my fault if people are so shit they are worse than bots.

>10 lvl on nightmare
>lets give him a chance
>he agros a patrol
>we wipe
i deserved that

when should i go try cataclysm ?
i have a few more missions to do in nightmare to do everything, and it's fucking hard as fuck with the random pubbies all the time

>>125902819
man the ramparts is pretty easy, did it with randoms no mics 2nd try

>near cart in enemy bellow
>down in health because of rat bullshit range and lag
>taking damage out of nowhere
>jesus christ what the fuck
>kruber's dialog deciphers the puzzle
fucking elfs

>>125903024
>ever using mics

>>125902819
I did everything in nm with a mate + 2 shit randoms, the only map that took a few tries to do was the white rat since people after months from the release still don't fucking know how to kite the ogre.

>>125902001
I never understood those complaints. My 3T2G nightmare runs on Enemy Below/Garden of Morr/Wizard Tower are 90% successes, something really bad or stupid must happen for us to actually wipe, like throwing fire bombs at teammates or shit.

>>125901447
I almost feel like showing you a decent orange sword and dagger but I don't want to open Photoshop to compare.

>>125903272
Killing Blow/Regrowth/Off balance is the best set of traits for both rapier and s&d.

>>125903197
>nightmare

>>125903197
>like throwing fire bombs at teammates or shit.

Happens more often than you imagine, it also gets fucking annoying to have to carry the whole party because they are completely incapable of blocking and die every 2 minutes and then they also try to grab the grims despite being fucking shit just to lose die twice at the end.

>>125903469
>doing cata with randoms

>>125903435
kek

>>125903512
2bh I like carrying shitters. One time my entire team wiped at the barrel part in Enemy Below and I managed to fight off two hordes and finish the objective. Ran entire way to the cart by myself praying to Sigmar for no ninja packmaster/assassin.

They were praising me like some god. Felt good even doe we lost 2 tomes and 1 grim.

>>125903608
Well, what other set of traits is better?

>>125903512
Always fun when you tell people to stop shooting you and then they day "What, theres friendly fire?"

>>125903802
Not that guy but off balance seems pretty shit to me. As a WH I almost always dodge and shove rather than actually try to block shit. Killing blow is ok but only really comes into play on cata which everyone knows is a meme difficulty.

>pub nm white rat
>everyone above level 100
>I'm level 267
>surprisingly smooth and no one fucks up or even goes down once
such a weird feeling, I had almost forgotten what it was like to win and not having to carry

>>125903590
>not doing cata with bots

>>125903802
devastatign blow, berserking, regrowth for rapier

>>125905104
>no killing blow
have you played anything higher than hard? have you actually tried this trait with max proc chance? can you understand what 15% chance to insta-kill human-sized rat makes a huge difference especially on high attack speed weapons like rapier and s&d and especially on cata?

>>125904521
Not really, it's still better even on nightmare. Just spawn two rapiers, one with killing blow and one with berserking then play few games with both.

>>125906128
rapier still kills clans in like 2 headshots though on NM, and the only way to get killing blow is to also take that shitty off balance trait. If you could get bloodlust, killing blow, and swift slaying all on one weeapon sure, but the item list says that's not a thing.

>>125904521
>cata which everyone knows is a meme difficulty
indeed it is, since most people here apparently play with bots.

>>125906556
so just cheat it in

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>>125906128
yeah and it's not a big deal

sometimes rats die on one shot, sometimes theyt don't wooooo, I do love how it looks.


you did gave me an idea tho, I'll see if I can find the number for a regrowth normal, killing blow normal, devastating blow sword and dagger

Am I better off with skullcracker or hail of doom on a shotgun? Thinking rupture, mastercrafted, and hail/skullcracker

>not taking whites on cata
literally shitters baka

>>125906556
rapier kills both clans and slaves in 1 headshot in NM but I doubt you get more than 100 headshot and around 200 kills. You can't always headshot.

>>125906659
na, it might crash the game and if you equip it on your character then you'll be literally locked out of character because it'd make it crash

don't play with fire

>>125906726
You're better off with a handgun.

>>125906698
think you can get regrowth, killingblow and backstabbing

backstabbing is pretty much forced trait for killing blow, just like offbalance is for rapiers

>>125906726
And there's no skullcracker on shotguns, guess that answers that question

>>125906698
I wish red rapier had same set of traits, dat 10% regrowth.

It's bullshit how s&d can't roll berserking doe.

>>125906842
>you can't always headshot
get a load of this shitter

Does anyone know what item codes correspond to what hats? es_helmet_01-05 isn't really helpful and I don't really want to add all of them

>>125907681
you can just remove them then, whats the problem

>>125908291
Well if someone had set up a nice little table somewhere then I wouldn't have to bother doing that.

Maybe I'll just do it.

The two most useful characters in Cata are a well played BW and a shield-bashing dwarf. The least useful character in Cata is the elf.

Prove me wrong.

>>125909156
>Elf
>most useless in cata
>implying it's not the most useless always

>>125909156
Why dwarf and not Kruber?

>spawn hat
>crash
>bug report sent to devs
Does this mean I'm getting a nasty surprise?

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>steel sword can roll both beserking and bloodlust
why is this allowed?

>>125909637
na, lua injector is unstable as fuck

it crashed 10 times for me while i was adding all the helmets

>>125909280
Dwarf is easier to shoot over. Kruber is tall and gets in the way. Dwarf is perfect for standing in front.

>>125909920
crouch?

>>125909867
Yeah but the devs are going to be able to tell something fishy from the bug report that gets sent. Better pray to sigmar account related details aten't attatched to that.

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god I hate when retards run in front of me when I'm killing specials

just look at this WH, what a player

>>125909948
Which is an extra action that Kruber has to take that the dwarf doesn't. Which is why the Dwarf is better. Kruber is great too but the Dwarf is just better because he doesn't get in the way in general and doesn't have to crouch-walk everywhere for the same result.

got shot from hagbane ONCE and this is how much hp it took away

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Hello, /vtg/, I have a /r/equest for you.

A long fucking time ago I've played a demo of a game (I think and hope) set in the Warhammer universe.

I loved it, but I can't remember it's name to save my life. I can vaguely remember giving orders to whole groups of units (sort of like in TW games) and maybe I think there might've been a duel mechanic that made two battling commanders slug it out in a ring of fire.

If it indeed is a Warhammer game and you could help me find it, I'd really appreciate it, and if it isn't, sorry for wasting your time.

>>125910135
>It was the WH and not the elf who fucked up
It's like watching a home video of some fatass riding a mechanical bull and instead of the obvious happening we see someone behind them lose a fight with a turnstile.

>>125910418
wow that's a lot

>>125910443
It's "Warhammer Mark of Chaos". I nostalgia-played it a while back, too - it's not too great but I'm a WH buff.

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>>125910457

>>125910135
>wh using xbow
>a shitter
checks out

>>125910135
These are the worst, let's say it's fine running in front of someone shooting once, but how the fuck do they miss a fuck huge beam going on for various seconds?

>>125908547
wow

you're the kind of people that queer with the codes is trying not to spoonfeed and I agree with him

either read 20 fucking words or fuck off

desired traits on the soldier 2handed hammer?

>>125910135
Yeah that's pretty bad. To be fair I can't count the number of times I've been running up to a lone rat with charged swing only for the BW to beam it for no reason. It goes both ways.

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>>125910925
That's the one, thanks a ton!
I don't have any Warhammer related pictures, so I can only gift you this interesting elephant armor instead

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either one

>>125911536

>>125909976
I really doubt they are going to do anything about any of this considering how ded the game is. They won't ban what is probably 10 to 20 percent of their remaining playerbase.

Considering some red weapons have stats above normal. Does that mean it would be ok for me to spawn a weapon and give it around 10% regrowth instead of the current max 5%?

>>125912319
Clearly they won't do a ban, the Nasty Surprise would probably be Cheater's Lament 2.0

>>125912475
no you get vac banned and also reported to the police

>>125912547
Unless they also remove the items and make stop the LUA inject from working it will mean fuck all. Because you would just be able to get whatever the reward was anyway and a fucking Halo is nothing compared to having all the hats and perfect weapons without grinding.

>>125912698
I mean after an update or something. Right now I have a beam staff with 3% above the default max regrowth.

Hax guy said it miiiiight give you a crash if an update happens and you have a weapon like that equipped.

>>125911536
I went bloodlust dev blow and perfect balance. Swift slaying(normal) in place of perf balance if you want to rape ogres with it.

>>125912946
well clearly they'd have to fix the cheats before implementing the nasty surprise

>>125912947
Worst case scenario with an update is they just delete every weapon with a percentage above the possible range.

>spawn 2 rapiers, 1 with bloodlust and 1 with regrowth
>roll minimum 3% on bloodlust
>ok I'll just use the regrowth
>roll 1%
I told myself I wasn't going to bother editing proc values but jesus

>>125913714
make it 99 and get sick values

>>125913714
for k,v in pairs(BuffTemplates) do
if v.buffs ~= nil and v.buffs[1] ~= nil and type(v.buffs[1].proc_chance) == "table" then
v.buffs[1].proc_chance[1] = v.buffs[1].proc_chance[2]*1
end
end

max rolls

>>125914194
no fucking shit sherlock

>>125913714
If you don't want to edit proc values but still want to aim for perfect rolls, just spawn like 10-15 of the same weapon and roll until you get what you want.

>Dude loses an arm
hahaha you're fired

>>125915793
>10-15
lmao

>>125916449
sorry I meant 100-150

Is the magpie itrm dupe trinket just shit? I haven't seen it proc once. Should I just use the fish instead?

>>125917016
I've seen the magpie trigger more than the fish and the fish has nearly double the proc rate. The ideal setup though is probably share potions/healing items aren't used/healing yourself heals your team.

You might sub out of one of those for the grim trinket though if you are so inclined.

>>125917681
I don't think I can live without the chicken paw, anon.

>>125918974
>281 rat kills
>beserking proced three times
whoever shilled this is a fucking retard

>>125918974
Really the chicken paw only matters if you are a front-liner like Bardin or Kruber. Saltz and BW are better served by items which help the team be more effective like the potion rack and the heal all.

>>125918974
What does the chicken paw do?
God I wish there was a trinket trinket

>>125920329
Basically cuts the grim penalty in half. So with two grims you would only have the health burden of one grim.

>>125920502
Ah, that one. Wish I had it. Fuck, I only have like three trinkets, item dupe, heal the part when you heal yourself, and poison

>>125920502
Oh it's that lich thingy. It's pretty sweet, found one at 20 and used it ever since.

>>125917681
If you feel like item dupe procs more than fish why did you reccomend the fish over it?

>>125920585
just CheatEngine family

>>125921501
too much effort

>>125921534
Its not. You literally download a table and click the item you want from a dropdown. The hardest part is not crashing.

>>125921663
This.

>guy calls me an asshole for not letting him blow the horn

>>125920914
Because the odds are still with the fish despite the fact i've seen the trinket duplicate more. The dupe trinket also relies on you picking shit up while the fish gives you an extra on the spot. During a finale or a large horde getting an extra heal is far more useful than there potentially being another of some random item you pick up.

1/5 for an extra heal vs 1/10 of duplicating something potentially worthless. The fish is a better trinket it just seems like it procs less but that is purely bad luck on my part.

>>125919945
>not playing saltz the glorious way he's meant to be played with his rapier
I wish I could tamper with the inventory in the joining screen so I don't end up with curse trinket on one of the short maps. Sure, you can do it in the crate but what about a game that is already started?

>>125923198
It's a pretty fucking magnificent horn, can't really blame him.

>>125925089
Seems a shame not to blow it twice.

>>125925089
>>125925160
>There are people that actually enjoy the sound of that racket
fucking lumberfoots

Will the orange movespeed trinket let you outrun rats? Seems entirely useless otherwise.

>>125925309
Maybe if you can stack it, 6% on its own is pretty worthless. It should be like 10%.

How do I git gud with hammer? I feel like I take way more hits with it than when I just go mace and shield and do 2 normals and shove until everything is dead. With the hammer I do a swing and some asshole rat comes up and stabs me before I can dodge back, with the shield I can literally solo a horde in open ground without even moving a single step.

>use CE to get gear after endless grinding
>finally able to just play for fun
>friends still want to exploit BP all day
I want off this wild ride

>>125929073
when you're with your group you gotta time you strikes, running forward into the fray right when the swing can make contact then quickly run back behind the elf to get another swing going

>>125930128
I guess the problem is that the merry bands of shitters I get grouped with have no idea how to position as a team for hordes then. Makes sense. I'm used to horde fights where everyone is 40 feet away from the next guy instead of sensibly finding a corner or chokepoint.

>>125929073
You git gud, you play cata and realize why the hammer is superior

>>125932304
>meme-aclysm
>with pubs

>>125932864
>I-I can't beat it! That means no one else can!
>I must call it a meme!
this is your life

I feel like I might be somewhat lucky. Level 44 now, and found Lichebone Pendant, rack of masterbrew vials and silver dove of shallya already. And some Kruber hats.

>>125932951
Nice memepost friend

>>125932951
>just tried cata for the first time
>one hit from a clan rat takes off three bars of health
That looks fucking brutal, I'm not going near it with randoms again.

>>125933369
you

wait

so vampires are supposed to be super stronk alucard tier weeb edgelords without the cool magic yet they can still get their shit fucked due to nagash's curse right?

>join hard for some easy fun
Holy fuck these shitters are worse than the ones on NM

>>125940068
who could have guessed people playing an easier difficulty would be worse than people playing a harder difficulty

>>125941005
Yeah but fucking up on hard is a feat. You have to be a special kind of shitter for that. NM actually requires some degree of effort but Hard practically requires you to actively attempt to fuck up.

>CUM ON HUMP HER FOOT
What did she meme by this?

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holy fuck the deploy system in mordheim is so fucking clunky it is fucking infuriating, goddamn what the fuck why was this ever deemed okay what the fuck