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Rising Sun Edition

Old >>125658408

>Patch 1.07 Info and How to Access the DLC
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/11/20/bloodborne-the-old-hunters-out-tuesday-patch-1-07-detailed/

>I can't access DLC, the Eye isn't showing up in the Dream!
Fix: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Planners
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
http://bloodborne.frontbuffer.com

>MP Range Calculator
https://mpql.net/tools/bloodborne/

>Where to go next in BB
http://pastebin.com/kr9TbvKS

>Guide Scans
http://justsomefaggot.imgur.com/

>Wikis
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com
http://bloodborne.wikidot.com/
http://bloodborne.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodborne

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules: http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer and Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101, and Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX
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First for Queen Annalise
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>>125681735
that's 127%

27.2% would be X*.272
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Ayy girls are best girls
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Why am I so into artificial girls, /bbg/? The Plain Doll, Aigis, Curie, I love all of them and more. Androids are a big favorite but any kind of artificial construct girl is fine.
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Post hunter selfies, like in the old days
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GRANT US EYES, GRANT US EEEYES
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posting this so people know how to build the boom hammer I guess. Feel free to add more info or correct me. going to add another pic testing on the watchers in a sec.
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>>125682023
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>>125682017
>mfw P.A.M in the Railroad place gave me a throbbing erection
>mfw Curie saying she loves me gave me a throbbing erection
Why can't we have sexy artificial girls in the real world?
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>>125681812
>waifu
Maria is a better waifu. The queen is a better waifu. Hell, even the whore is a better waifu.

The doll is just a tool that needs to STFU and let me use her already. If she talked in the background as you leveled up, instead of forcing you to wait then it might have been different.
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>>125682091
this is with the blunt gems.
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>>125681982

AR+ AR*0.272=AR*1.272

Because the gems stack and don't just work off the base AR you can just keep doing that.

I can tell you that gives you the correct result.
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>>125682196
We will soon, Anon. Why not try to get into robotics and work to speed up the process?
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>>125682017
You've probably given up on real girls at least subconsciously.

I mean it's alright, science is advancing pretty fast since the japs don't know how to breed or socialize anymore.

I actually read a very interesting feminist article about trying to outlaw sex androids from being sold in the future. Funny as in women are terrified men will have less of a reason to put up with their shit.
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>>125681714
>that lower panel

pls no
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>>125682330
How soon do you think they'll come? I'm pretty young now, but I really hope they aren't just coming out when I'm like 50.
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>>125681982
I forgot a digit
so it's X*1.272*1.272*1.272
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>>125682330
> trying to outlaw sex androids from being sold in the future.
Funny how all you'd need to do is make it so the base models of the androids don't come with sex parts but have modifications you can buy
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>>125682334
Yharnam Sunrise, best end
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>>125682017
I drew an artificial girl a while ago when I was learning how to use my tablet, what me to post it?
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>>125682496
Yes please
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>>125682496
Sure
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>>125682023
I cant fucking stand this.

>Helping people with ludwig
>literally carrying them to his phase 2

>have to back off a second to beast pellet and tear him a new ass

>host dies literally 5-10secs after the cutscene

If you didnt get involved before dont get involved now holy shit.
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What's the best gun to use with Whirligig?
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>>125682334
>implying she will even be able to do anything against a great one even if he's very small
>implying he won't be using her for lewd tentacle exercises in a few months after changing her appearance to his liking so she will stop looking like a parody on a dead girl
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So is it really worth the 70-80 extra AR going all thrusts if my untricked attacks will be erratic as fuck and half of them being 315 AR? Or should I just do as anon said before and go for 2phys 1 thrust?
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>>125681714
B-But dolls don't eat. Was this her plan all along? To attain unlimited power?
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>>125682258
>>125682091
now here is with 27.2% physical up gems. blunt attack up is clearly superior.
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>>125682017
You've never had anything close to a real relationship so you like cartoons
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>>125682669
>tfw you will never be reborn as a Great One
>tfw the Doll will never nurse you back to an adult
>tfw you will never have gentle consensual happy tentacle sex together.
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>>125682561
>>125682545
well it isn't lewd, and I'm at that point when I'm trying to draw better than I can. So have mercy.
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>>125682941
Why is life so cruel!
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>>125682476
Yeah and I mean honestly I think sex androids are probably the most ethical invention humans can make since our population is so out of fucking control. Society dictates you're supposed to have offspring but that's clearly a detriment to both humanity psychologically and the planet physically. But yeah even if they were outright outlawed they'd be easy for people to get via alternative means. Can't wait to overclock my droidfu.exe

>>125682426
Honestly you're probably going to miss it. The uncanny valley is real and robotics aren't very advanced yet. There hasn't been significant progress in the last few years in terms of making a robot feel less artificial.

I should end this topic since it isn't BB related but yeah Doll is a qt
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>>125682881
>>125682258
>>125682091
dude stop, we know it does blunt attack
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>>125682989
pretty qt
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>>125682023
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>>125682881
>>125682258
Intredasting, thanks
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>>125682728
When she said she loved you, she meant how you taste.
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>>125682697
I really couldn't tell you it's worth it because I don't know how big a difference in actual damage that's going to mean on an opponent.

You could always just rely on the R1 in untricked, and if you're running after someone just trick the thing and swing.

For me I just don't think it's enough extra damage to farm for the gems. But I don't think the Pick is at all weak with three 27's already.
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>>125683014
I hope with all of my heart that that's not true. If they don't come out within my normal lifespan, I hope that there will be some way to extend it by then.
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>>125682989
damn thats pretty good actually. Proportions and face look great.
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>>125683112
But that's lewd
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>>125683060
this is for the people always asking about the boom boom hammer. I'm sorry my posts bothered you.
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>>125682989
That's really neat Anon

Im a bit of a freak so even less human would be better. But nice as it is too.
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Do you think the Doll is warm to the touch?
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>look up beast embrace
>oh yeah I totally forgot I have to kill laurence to get it
>should be easy pea-
>YOU DIED

fuck that second phase, when he does those slam attacks with his hands I just fucking die everytime, and when I did manage to avoid it, he did it again

also fucking cheddar lava everywhere

>survive his combo with little hp
>lava kills you off
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>>125683060
What a faggot you seem like
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>>125682989
Good sheet, she has a lot of genuine character and I haven't seen that 'exposed spine and ribs' design before
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>elemental bloodstone gems on normal weapons

is this a good idea i see a lot of people using it.
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Is there like a /bbg/ FAQ or something?

I just picked it up and I'd really like some advice/pointers but searching online only brings me to pleb sites with info like "b sure to keep your blood shards up :^)"

What weapons should I pick up/avoid?
What origins are the best?
Anything to look out for while playing? Like things that are easy to miss/NPCs that disappear?

I'd really appreciate any help
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>>125683523
Play blind then play guided then never post again
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>>125683523
It's only okay to say things like that when you really are cute. Sachiko is lucky she's so cute.
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Anyone have any good waifu sliders
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>>125683523
Are you on your first run?

You don't want to spoil everything do you?
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>>125683062
>>125683227
>>125683325
>>125683386
thanks anons, she's a built for purpose person, only what you need.
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>>125683246
yeah you could just tell them it does blunt, youre making a really big effort for something you really dont need to
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>>125682989
Now draw the Doll with a blank stare being used like a lifeless sextoy by the hunter.
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it does blunt
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>>125683938
we know.
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>>125683938
Fucking lire.

>>/out/
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>>125683938
See how much easier that is
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>>125683938
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>>125683938
Ya blew my mind m8
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>>125683938
>blunt
Light it up, m8
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>>125683938
Dude Milkweed Ayy
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>>125683938
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>>125683523
For a first play through pick whatever origin you like they won't matter unless you're min maxing for PvP super hard.

There are no bad weapons, mess around with stuff until you find a moveset you like. Only advice I'll give you on stats is that VIT is more important early than other stuff since scaling doesn't start doing work until later in the game. If you see a weapon you want to try then get the base stats for it and give it a whirl, it might have crap damage at first since it's not upgraded but try to focus on it's function, raw numbers will come and so will more upgrade materials.

Make sure to explore as much of the city as possible and check on any npcs you find, talk at windows and doors. Check back with people you meet now and again.
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>>125683224
Fuck you, I'd die for a sentient robot as a partner, that's even more remote than a sexbot.
>>125683237
She's got a vore fetish.
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>>125682023
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>>125683938
>50STR/25SKL/25ARC
>two blunt gems and one nourishing with +15 flat fire atk
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>>125683938
Who would have thought, stop the presses we need to inform everyone about it!
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Does anyone is /bbg/ run a fists build with gratias and kos?
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>>125684336
that must be pretty baller.
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So what should i use for Irvine cosplay in terms of armor?
Maria's hunter cap + old hunter arm bands + yahargul leggings, but what chest piece?
The only one that comes close is bone ash but it has a wrong color.
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>>125683938
The joke is that Blunt is weed and you light it up
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>>125684410
Is non-Ayy Kos still pure Arcane?

If I did go for a fist character would going Pure Arcane be the way to go?
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>Want to make a hms build
>Kind of out classed unless you over level because goddammit it's so stat hungry


I think I might just go 150 for MLGS, first time playing in the lel reddit bracket
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>>125684236
would you say vit is more important than end at the start?
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So if I take 50 main stat, 25 secondary (example Strength/Skill) is it still viable to use the secondary stat effectively?
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>>125684559
nip chest piece would be closest i guess
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>>125684559
the hat looks more like yamamuras without the feather
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>>125684687
>he needs to go to 150 to use it effectively
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>>125684687
I've got a 120 with 42 arc, 35 str and 25 skill that does great damage my man. It also east stamina more than any other weapon in the game, but it's attacks are long and slow
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>>125684693
Yes.
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>>125684693
It's better for sure. Stamina regens very quickly.
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>>125684813
>117
remake char.
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>>125684813
I like your character. Nice name, nice weapon, and I like how you hide his face.

I'm not even trying to be ironic. I like seeing webms of you pvping.
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>>125684813

Wouldn't 1 L2 completely drain you with that END? I just made my assumptions messing around with the move set on my arc build.
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>>125683523
>What weapons should I pick up/avoid?
Ones that scale well with whatever stats you're pumping. All the starting weapons are pretty solid.
>What origins are the best?
Ones that emphasise stats you want while skimping on shit you don't (military vet for STR, lone survivor for BLT/SKL, Cruel Fate for ARC, etc.). Avoid ones that spread points all over the place like milquetoast
>Anything to look out for while playing? Like things that are easy to miss/NPCs that disappear?
Eileen the crow is the most easily messed up NPC quest of note.
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>>125684994
>following /bbg/'s shit meta
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>>125685096
Yes, I wouldn't know how to use moonlight with a build that low on stamina. Guess he has runes though
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Whats the difference between the loch shield and wooden shield? Where are the new guide scans at?!
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>>125685096
I can do a fully charged R2-R2 combo or follow R2 into L2, don't need anything else.
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Anyone up to help me with defiled amygdala? Furthest I've ever gotten him is about 50%.
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>>125685368
Coopers will only make this battle harder.
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>>125685368
Are you BLT? If so, arrow his fucking face to death.

Are you ARC? If so, magic his face to fucking death.

Are you physical? If so, jump cheese his fucking fuck face to fucking death.
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Is there an easier way to farm Tomb Mold (5) which doesn't involve running Pthumeru Ihyll 8 times?
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>>125685637
go to NG+ and buy them for 40k echoes each
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>>125685637
buy it you farter
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>>125685601

I'm a skill build with Rakuyo, which makes killing him in his second phase nearly impossible between his disjointed hitboxes and the way that Rakuyo teleports you into attacks.
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Anyone want to fight the Shadows of Yharnam on Ng+ with me? Password is bbg17 ringing in front of the Foggate
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>>125683938
Strength builds
What can't they do?

>>125684813
I hope I see you Saturday faggot.
HMS fucking sucks.

>>125685208
>meta is contested
>98 is decided on
>everyone enjoys, caps at 98 for months
>DLC releases
>new/returning fags want reddit-tier builds to be ok
Never ever
I don't even understand why anyone thinks it's ok.

>>125685368
Ignore face, go for arms. Stick to the side, dodge in during arc multi-slam phase.
This is a str build with a host, but you can do it solo with your Rakuyo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG2dc7krsEE

Also, remember Pellets.
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>>125685637
No, that's why CD's suck
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>>125686156
>strength builds what can't they do?
deal thrust damage?
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>>125686156
>tfw my level 115 can invade you 98 shitters
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>>125686156
>make a build level specifically so you don't have to deal with reddit
it's like you're scared to play against them or something
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>>125685637
Layer 1 Isz Gravestone Rat Swarm drops them. Or just buy them.
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>>125686156
>being able to use more than 1 weapon effectively with a few tools is bad cuz I said so
>please play the 98 meta!

Face it, your meta is shit and dead. None of my 98s can even get invasions unless it's during a FC.
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>>125686156
>thinking that anyone is interested in your circlejerk fight clubs
>thinking that ANYONE outside of 42 IPs in this general is interested in BL98
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>>125686257
>HMLS
>Ludwigs
>kirk hammer
>bloodletter
>steak driver
wut??
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>>125686156
You and like four other people decided on the 98 "meta". Been here since the beginning and you've always been outspoken little snowflakes
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>>125686292
level 117 can invade 98 shitters.
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anyone wanna help me beat defiled watchdog? I'm in NG. ring in the defiled chalice layer 2, password will be "thursday"
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>>125686609
>quality weapon
>quality weapon
>one attack
>memeletter
>quality weapon

wut??
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>>125686292
You need the extra levels, that's the problem. Guess I'll savescum for FC's from now on, amirite? lol

>>125686257
Lots of str weapons do thrust, like the Axe.

>>125686374
>to no deal with reddit
You're not even thinking about the caps, are you? It's not reddit, it's the fact that you'll fight someone with the potential for 50 more vit, or 50 points through other stats.
Fighting up to 148 isn't an issue because the only other standard cap is 120, where 22 points is much more manageable than 50.

>>125686535
>more than 1 weapon
I use 12/15 base-game weapons and almost all the DLC ones, whatever the count of them is.
Have you not heard of the new potential for Str Abyssals? S/B scaling?
I even used BoM in FC's before this and got kills with BoM with ~330 AR on you BL120+ fags.
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>>125686156
The one argument I've heard for the meta being raised that makes sense is that FRC fungeons are rated for lvl150 in the guide.

It's because your defense is tied to your level. So having a higher level, no matter the stat distribution means you can take the increased chalice gem damage.

but hell I like quick, tense, high damage high stakes fights.
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>>125686156
You act as if 98 meta is this universal thing that actually exists outside of like 20 people and a few shitposters, all from this general using it at a single time.

Most people, in general, are going anywhere from 80 to 120.

I have like 3 BL80s for the DLC, a 105 and a 116. It literally does not fucking matter.
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Reminder that bloodborne and the rest of the souls games are nothing but rip off's of Berserk

https://youtu.be/N32QQqKOf5I?t=1h6m26s
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>>125686156
When some pompous ass with top gems drops 17K after invading me and getting absolutely annihilated against my 140, i always smash a vermin on their faggy faces as they disappear from my world.
It feels so good.
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>>125686156
How about you take pvp a little less serious? It's not like this is some super competitive fighting Game. Let People play the way they want to play.
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Bell maidens whose summons spawn and beeline for you when you're sitting at the fucking lamp are the absolute bullest of shit.
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>>125686661
Look, Benjie and the circlejerk are retards. But 98 is a good meta to work with and the constant whining about it only makes you look like a reddit tourist.

So fucking shut up or get out.
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>>125684813
Get 25 less STR levels and a little more END and you're set for level 98.
What's the AR you gain from those 25 levels anyway?
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>>125687067
>98 is a good meta
It's a shit meta.
You will miss most of the NG co-opers with it.
It makes no sense for fight clubs as it's not a cap of natural defense.
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>>125686732
Those weapons are leaning on strength, burial blade has a strength scaling as well but you'd still put it on a skill build wouldn't you?
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>>125684307
Damn that might be the closest to Maria I've seen. Sliders please?
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>>125687067
You gonna actually provide a reason for why 98's a good cap?

>constantly
literally the first time I've chimed in on one of these meta discussions, and I visit the FCs every week. Sorry m8, you just sound salty your meta isn't universal. Your mad is very obviously leaking
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>>125687262
>You will miss most of the NG co-opers with it.
I get co-op easily in all zones on any 98. Shitloads of SRRC actions too.
>It makes no sense for fight clubs as it's not a cap of natural defense.
WE DON'T WANT TO BE GETTING NATURAL DEFENSE CAPS. THAT WOULD BE BAD.
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>>125687262
>It makes no sense for fight clubs as it's not a cap of natural defense.

fuck it, what is? Whatever it is should be the new cap
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>>125687419
150
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>>125687086
I don't need this shitty imaginary meta.
I can reliably invade, i can reliably coop in chalices.
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Where can I find good Adept gems without having to kill undead giant?
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>>125687357
>You gonna actually provide a reason for why 98's a good cap?
Reasons are provided daily. It's as high as you can go while still getting decent multiplayer action and avoiding the upper tier of over overleveled reddit babies. You can make interesting builds but you're still asked to sacrifice and make choices. It's perfect

>>125687419
>Let's just raise the meta until every build is the same!
You're so fucking dumb.
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>>125687086
Or he could keep it and he can still invade 98's anyway.
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>>125687419
140
I'd rather stick to my 98 and 120
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>>125687378
>SRRC with my 120s
>CRF party
>SRRC with my 98s
>Defiled Amy fest
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>>125687419
145
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>>125684719
Guys? I'm just curious, because I don't see a reason to pump 25 in a secondary (strength/skill) if you cannot PvP with the lesser stat (in that you lose too much damage compared to your primary)
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>>125687543
pwmf22gu for a sort of good chance for radial ones, and 5pwujscd for triangle. both are watcher boss. Got the ones I needed for my boom hammer in a couple of hours. worth it.
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>>125687325
It's a guy I didn't save sliders. Any way to look them back up? I can always try and recreate it at some point.
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>>125686796
Yeah, but I can do all that too, and also have some tools to use.

Going only 1 stat or going only melee is fucking retarded. None of the previous games "metas" made you do that. With 120-125 you could make a build that had 40/40/40/40 if you wanted. You had so many more possibilities. You could play a magic dex fag with a shitton of health and end, you could be a low end midrolling miracle/magic user that uses mlgs and velkas talisman and have enough stats to use a good secondary enchanted weapon, etc etc etc.

In this game at bl80 or bl98 you get little to no variety. You are either straight dex, straight str, "quality" (quotes because there is no 2handing to up your AR so even though 25/50 seems like quality it's really fucking shit compared to 27/40 in previous games), arc, or bloodtinge. There is no wiggle room.

Want a straight dex character with some tools? Well have fun giving up half the weapons you could have used because you need to lower your strength extremely low. Want some bloodtinge for your sidearms? Well you can't unless you want to bring your vit down into 1-2 shot range. Etc etc etc.

Why limit yourself to 1 playstyle for every build when in every single iteration of souls most builds could fit in multiple things? Like melee and magic, or dex and str, or vit gouged melee, or end gouged melee with some magic thrown in.
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>>125687613
>SRRC with my 120s
>CRF party
Bullshit. Maybe you've gotten lucky a couple times, but there's simply not much Spelunking going on in the first place. You're not going to convince me that at 120 there's suddenly legions of FRC spelunking parties.
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>>125687613
I can confirm that it's true.
Low-level chalice coop is insufferable.
It's either defiled amy or some fag summoning into central pthumeru and exploring all side passages for 2 hours straight.
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>>125687471
>>125687598
>>125687665

which ties in to >>125686817

Why don't we try lvl up a build each to 145, and have a fight club and invasions to see how they feel? can always back up your saves
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>>125687746
I agree that 150 meta is shit, but 115-120 is perfect.*

Meant to add that on the end
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>>125687545
So literally the whole justification for the meta is avoiding 150s who are garbage enough at the game that any skilled BL70+ player will dance around them? The only thing stopping you from allocating two more stat points and getting to 100, is the preservation of your super secret leet snowflake club?

You're a fucking idiot
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>>125687325
I'm afraid without a save there really isn't a way to get back to finding the sliders. In any case, still a good character. The file name suddenly makes a lot more sense
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>>125686661
>>125686947
>>125686825
>>125686817
My skill build is level 60. Had no problem at all with chalice dungeons.
I can understand builds with 30 or so levels more but higher than that you start being a shitter, around level 120.
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>>125687885
>So literally the whole justification for the meta is avoiding 150s
No. But that's an important part of it.
> who are garbage enough at the game that any skilled BL70+ player will dance around them?
They're not fun to fight with all there hardcapped stats and whatnot. They're the type to just back off and heal whenever they get hit.
>The only thing stopping you from allocating two more stat points and getting to 100, is the preservation of your super secret leet snowflake club?
You're acting like those two extra points matter to me.

>You're a fucking idiot
Nah, that'd be the retards who come into our community and try tot tell us how to play. I especially loved how you ignored most of the reasons given, and just doubled down on the one because you're a retard.
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>>125687978
>but higher than that you start being a shitter, around level 120
How so?
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>>125687758
>aimlessly baselessly stubborn

>You're not going to convince me that at 120 there's suddenly legions of FRC spelunking parties.

Speaks volumes no?
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>>125687814
Have you tried it before?
Pvp in this game tends to suck if fights aren't ending in 2-3 good hits, because it tends to be so passive and offensive tools are so limited. Fights that go on for more than a couple of exchanges just get dull and tedious, which is why we always push for 98 with chalice gems as opposed to 98 sans gems or 140+ with them. Long fights in BB aren't a good thing, they don't work well with the game's combat system.
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Uh you guys I need a little help here, the chalice paste bin says that undead giants only drop 28% blunt/thrust where I've gotten 32%s off pwmf. Do undead giants really not drop 32% blunt/thrust?
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>>125687919
Thanks, having a ton of fun with this character. Bowblade is my new weaponfu.
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AHH PLIP

OR SOME SAY PLOP
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>>125688086
>Speaks volumes no?
Not really. You're the one inventing magical scenarios where SRRC is giving you idealized results just because you're slightly high BL. It's not realistic, it's not true.

It's just whiny tourists trying to change the way it's done around here. Eat some broken glass please.
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>>125688173
Do you hear our sticky sound?
As you once did for Lady Maria
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>>125687727
>It's a guy

Even better
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>>125688082
>into our community and try tot tell us how to play

HAHAHAHAHAHAHahAHAHHA

PFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTHAHAHAHAHAhahAHAh fucking killyourself
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>>125688173
plip plop plip plop

splish splash
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So the big heads deprived of nearly all their senses.
What's their deal again? Is this the church's first attempt at Celestial Emissaries? Are the Living Failures the next step in evolution after the big heads?

Also why did that big head outside the Living Failure boss fight say she failed?
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How do root chalices work? Can I play the same glyph over and over or do I have to savescum until I get the drops I want?
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So is bloodletter pure blood damage in its second form? I'm a pure BLT build so I was wondering if it would be good to use.
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>>125688105
I haven't, but I've thinking about leveling up my first 98 for a bit, it isn't as tight as my other one.
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>40 today
>42 saturday
>34 sunday

what do i do if my ps4 catches fire?
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>>125686817
It says 160+, but that's one thing I like is keeping the game challenging.

>>125686825
If it makes you feel better, I only PvP on my 98 during Fight Clubs. I'm on my 43 any other time and have thought about bumping to BL120 for the DLC before people started posting in this general again and even asked others.
No one responded most of the time.

>>125687067
>circlejerk
>people are retarded because there were so few posting anymore we all memorized each others character names
It wouldn't of happened if you fags didn't leave to play The Witcher and MGS V.

Also, I don't understand the hate on me. I get mentioned when not even posting when all that happens is I post helpful info, like ToH scans, and spread FC shit around.
I really don't get it, unless it's Loranon, but he's retarded.

>>125687746
Isn't this the original argument for FB/Reddit to go 150+? To use everything in the game?
Why not just use Lucy's JoAT's build while you're at it? You can stay a low level and use everything, rendering your argument invalid.

>>125688128
They drop 32.6%, but I think it's only certain variants. I've farmed Cleaver/Cannon with someone for almost 2 hours and neither of us got over 29% or something.
Double Scythe variant drops them often, but I don't have a glyph on me for him.
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>>125688105
Translation:

>I suck at the game
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>>125688339
Give it a shot and you'll see. It makes no difference against the bad players you instagib anyways, because a bit more defense makes no difference when they're so easy to hit and just get chewed up in seconds anyways. But, against other decent players it means that matches turn into extremely passive 2-3 minute long pokefests
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>>125687479
>>125687553
Who the fuck cares about pvp anyway? I mean, sure that's a good plus, but the reason why I don't level up is because I'm not a shitter.

If you only want to pvp why not go 200? I'm pretty certain that there's more action there than all the other caps.
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>>125688434
I feel for you, Adelaide
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>>125688219
No, you're the one denying it based on your own arbitrary baseless observations.

>thinking I want you at 120 for some reason
>insecure boogeymanning and needlessly aggressive sign-off

epic oldfag!
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>>125688219
>whiny tourists
I've been in this general from the very beginning.
First kobra's bumblefuck retarded BL80, then yours bumblefuck retarded 98, you metashitting faggots are always the loudest and most annoying special snowflakes.
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>>125688439
>Also, I don't understand the hate on me
You never will, because you don't understand what attentionwhoring is. You're just Lucy with less of a bad rep and no tripcode.
> I post helpful info, like ToH scans, and spread FC shit around.
You shit on advice you feel is in competition with your own. You ruined the FCs by inviting reddit over to them repeatedly because you crave even more attention.

Just shut the fuck up Benjie, the threads were much more enjoyable during your hiatus. Seriously. Go away.
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>>125688083
Because you don't need more than 50 in a damage stat, 15 end, 50 vit and 25 in another damage stat.
Unless you're a fucking scrub, of course.

With 40 vit and 25 skl I can easily kill everything in the game.
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>>125688627
>you're the one denying it based on your own arbitrary baseless observations.
If there's no FRC at 98, there's no FRC at 120. You're fucking retarded.
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>>125688082
>still fails to give a valid reason for the level besides WAH NO FUN FIGHTING REDDIT SHITTERS

> that'd be the retards who come into our community
You do realize that YOU are the outsider here, with your retarded as fuck meta that you and a small handful of others stick to, right? YOU are coming into OUR community, and shitting the thread up with your insistence on a meta that exists to shield you from players WHO FUCKING SUCK in the first place
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>>125688269
L-LEWD
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>>125688764
cool ur jets man, Benjie's nice and not a tripfag
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is there no skill equivalent to heavy abyssals?

i never hear anyone mention them, and you'd think a skill based quality would be better because you also get visceral damage
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>>125688330
It's godly.
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>>125688814
>don't need
You don't need anything aside from 20-30 vit and base stats required to use weapons to blow through the entire game and chalices. So what? Stop leveling around BL30? Or maybe just shut your goddamn trap and accept that people want different builds and level up to different levels despite what you and a group of similar special snowflake neckbeards is trying to push?
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PVP meta autists should just kill themselves.
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Can you visceral a skeleton?
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>>125689180
Noice. Should the normal version be enough or should I go for the lost one.
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>>125688886
hahaha the nonstop baseless denial, just simplifying the way you present your claim doesn't make it any more true, dullard
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>>125689273
You can visceral darkbeasts, and they're as close to skeletons as you get in this game.
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>>125688105
If you can't beat 'em, may as well join 'em.
Maybe I'll just bump everyone of my builds to BL137? Can co-op to BL98 and not lose damage but still fight BL150's without any real hassle.
I already did it to my 99 Arc, but that's because I hate PvP'ing on him with 10 Vit.

>>125688764
I literally only replied to your post because I didn't know it was you, Loranon. It wasn't obvious without all the green letters, I just happened to see it on another post after mine.

>>125689068
He's been butthurt ever since I told some other anon that was having issues with hotdog to go for the legs. He said his advice was right and mine was wrong.
I don't even know how, both work.

He's right about one thing, people are shit, but especially people like him.

>>125689247
I tried to push BL544 at the beginning, 2bnothonest.
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>>125689402
I wonder what he looked like with skin
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>>125689247
The only autists here in that respect are the 98 shitters. Everybody else would appear to just play the fucking game at the level they please without needing to impose some arbitrary meta on everyone who happens to screencap their build, they on the other hand never shut the fuck up
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>>125686156
98 is a meme.
BL60-87 are the real pvp spots.
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>>125688105
I must be the only one that has a bit of patience and enjoys long fights.

Though I prefer invasions way way more than fight clubs, giving the host an alternative win condition (reaching the finish) tends to encourage more aggression, especially if the host is closer to the goal.
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>>125689528
Like abhorrent beast and like player with beast rune prior to that.
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>tfw would love a twink to PVP and co-op but don't wanna put the effort in
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ITS FUCKING KOS NOT KOSM YOU PIECES OF SHIT NO ONE SAYS KOSM YOU FUCKING NIGGERS
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>>125689517
so one henpeck later ur telling him to fuck off? Don't be a faggot anon, we're in this together.
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>>125689721
Micolash says it and if anyone knows what they're talking about, it's him.
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>>125689528
He's kinda weird. One of the few bosses in the game that's properly quadrupedal. Most beast bosses walk like apes rather than dogs. The only enemy I can think of with Paarl's posture are the werewolves, but they have snouts while Paarl has a flattish face more reminiscent of a human or simian.

>>125689721
>NO ONE SAYS KOSM YOU FUCKING NIGGERS
SOME DO
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>>125689721
Kosm
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>>125689721
I think I'll take the word of one of the top scholars out there over yours. Some say Kosm. Deal with it.
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>>125689092
>>125689092
>>125689092
pls respond
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>>125689214
You don't seem to understand. By your logic one wouldn't need to level up at all, everything is possible. My logic is: what's the minimum level that will make a difference? The answer is 40 vit, 15, end and 25 in a damage stat, especially skl for the visceral bonus. Then there's the other limit of 50 in a damage stat which is understandable too. Even the use of basic hunter tools at level 15 arc.
When you start leveling more than this you're a hopeless shitter.
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>>125689716
Its really not that hard, in fact you can effectively twink with the story mode gems.

I think the biggest hurtle people have is realizing that HP>damage stats all you need is the base requirement for your weapon and pump the rest and hp and your set.
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>>125689721
KOSM
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>>125689214
Oh, you're a retarded twink too because at level 43 you can still invade starting classes levels.
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>>125689721
Those that did are probably dead anyway.
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>>125689851
I swear people put this expression in shit now on purpose.
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>>125689901
>The answer
The answer is your personal preferences which you for some hilarious reason are trying to make some universal rule.
In other words, your answer is shit.
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>>125689721
You know what I would have done if I was in charge

Have it when a player starts the DLC it randomly decides if it's Kos or Kosm. Just to bring the fights even deeper.
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>>125689661
I agree. I get much faster invasion times on my 43 than I ever did on my 98. 98 is just a build meta, but it's not great for invasions outside of FC's, especially outside of Mensis/Frontier.

I've debated leveling forever, but I've been capped for months so I don't know if I'd hate myself later on.

>>125689716
I'll piggy-back you if you want. I've got nothing left to do but farm Str Abyssals, and I only got 2 out of about 30 runs yesterday, both were shit, but at least I got 2 Rocks that I had nothing else to use them on but skl weapons and guns.

>>125689894
No, there is not as Sharp Abyssals don't exist.
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>>125690159
They should've had it been Orphan of Ko to really fuck with people.
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>>125690159
or have it say Orphan of Kosm only at an obtuse insight level, like 42
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>>125689517
>. He said his advice was right and mine was wrong.
>I don't even know how, both work.
LOL

Now you want to revise history and pretend like you were being tolerant? Last time I brought this up you explained that "I was just fucking with you to make you mad lol". Now you're somehow super tolerant and I was being unreasonable? No. Eat shit.

>>125689068
>>125689068
>He's been butthurt ever since I told some other anon that was having issues with hotdog to go for the legs.
What happened is that I provided advice and he specifically called mine out and told somebody to avoid using it because attacking the legs is so much easier. He claimed it was easier to i-frame dodge through an attack to hit the legs rather that just backstep/backpedal carefully and hit the face and then insisted that they ignore my advice
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>>125690159
I like it
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>cant send anyone to oedon chapel but only to ioefeska's clinic


goddamnit
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>>125690079
>game mechanics are personal preferencies
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>>125690021
I've made this character long before it was known that you can only invade BL30+ players and i sure as fuck won't level him up further purely because of a principle.
Now, is there something you wanted to actually say or you prefer to just fuck off?
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I miss comfy /bbg/. I wonder if Kakashi-chqn is still around?
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>>125690335
Shut the fuck up this is not your blog.
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>>125690404
I won't shut up until Benjie stops posting. That hypocritical cajun shitstain needs to go.
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>>125690372
>40 vitality when 30 is a first softcap
>actually advocates 15 END
It's not a game mechanics, it's your preferences, and shitty ones on top of it.
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>>125690335
>the ruse cruise never ends
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can someone please explain the ending, and generally what's going on?
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>>125690487
nobody gives a shit you zebraposting cunt
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>>125690385
flamesprayer is best
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>>125690487
>>125690335
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>>125690598
Turns out Kosm just had a trapped fart. Upon releasing it you lift the curse
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So if Mergo is the wet nurse then where are her tits?
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>>125690404
>>125690549
>>125690712
>ignoring the truth
You're gonna shitpost about autism rather than realize that Benjie is a shitposting, two-faced attentionwhore with the bearing and demeanor of a fat dumb american?
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>>125690487
1v1 me and I'll leave forever after I post ToH scans.
I will literally never return to /bbg/ and you can have it all to yourself.
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>>125690842
Benjie pls don't go
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>>125690302
>enter bossfight
>orphan of cum
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>went from Iosefkas Clinic to Mensis in a little over one Hour

did I got gud? or is Ng+ just easy?
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>>125690335
Loranon's being truthful, fellas. Benjie was and is an aggressive turd and actively shut down his/others' advice, while the resident zebraposter was fairly tolerant, which actually is unusual considering how generally insistent he is on his on points of view
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>>125690842
I've beaten you in plenty of duels at 6cb. I'd be tempted by your offer if I felt that there was even a remote chance that you'd honor it. As it stands, I'm gonna stick around and make sure people understand what you're all about.

>>125690931
Don't worry your pretty little head. It's just a gesture to try to make me look like a coward and simultaneously bait out asskissing from people like you.
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>>125688082
>cant kill reddit baddies
>the retards who come into our community and try tot tell us how to play

Your meta is retarded. Go back to neogaf.
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>>125690842
dont do it benji
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>>125690385
Yes, get more vit until you hit level 43.
>>125690529
You're right about vit, anyway, as I already said, 50 vit is understandable. You're not right about end, 12 or what is might be good for blade of mercy and reiterpallasch but it's not for some other weapons, you might need to go up to 15, 16, 17.
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>>125681714
I want to marry the doll.
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>>125690825
So basically Luci without a trip?
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How many times can Djura heal?
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>>125686156

That strategy doesn't fucking work anymore. They patched the boss AI in the DLC specifically to stop people doing that. Further, beast blood pellets do not work at all with Rakuyo because you simply do not do enough damage per swing to build up beasthood.
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>>125690842
benjie no I haven't confessed yet
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>>125688439
please put a tripcode on so we can filter your ass
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So anyone gonna post any sliders or is there a resource besides reddit? I'm gonna make a new character but I'm feeling creatively drained.
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hey guys what's going on in this thr-
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So...spontanous fightclub in 6cb?
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>>125691114
Yes.
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>tfw BL50 and trying to kill Living Failures
Wow, I am doing no damage with Blt weapons. Poor Yamamura. Anyone up for ayy bullying?

bbg123, waiting by the boss door if anyone fancies helping.
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>>125691251
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>>125691285
Pls no it's 4am here.
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>>125690842
Benji I love you
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>tourist ledditors talking shit to Benjie
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>>125691251
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>>125691148
Please tell me you can still get behind Amy to make her jump, tell me they didn't patch that.
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I'm mainly a pve player, but I've decided to start getting summoned at the beginning of levels instead of just at the fog boss. Is the pizza cutter a good pvp weapon, or should I get another one for backup? 50 str, 12 skl not enough arcane for wheel
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>>125691251
/bbg/ Civil war
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Fuck you /bbg/ you made me so scared of Defiled Amy that I have a mental block when I face her. I will never get the Yharnam Stone.
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>>125691007
>As it stands, I'm gonna stick around and make sure people understand what you're all about.

Fuck I'd better start posting pro-benjie stuff

Benjie is a nice guy who is happy to help and carry people and he is often testing or organising tournys or fight clubs. I consider him one of the better members of the thread
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>the grey wolf cap looks great with the HMS
>the guy i made in preparation for it has glasses

do i suck it up and find a different helmet or do i redo 30 hours of chalice bullshit
what other hats look cool with it
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>>125691315
coming
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>reddit is literally beating us at splunking for the 30% radiance rune

will you let this stand, /bbg/?
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What's the Rally potential on the Beast Cutter? Is it good?
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>>125683938

Would this work on a new game?
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>>125690385
God, this makes me rock hard.
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>>125691410
pizza cutter is like, tier 1.5. it's not one of the insane PvP weapons but it's not bad at all, and it's probably a lot better if you're defending a host since the way to beat it is to focus on dodging the dash-r1
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>>125689903
>HP>damage stats all you need is the base requirement for your weapon and pump the rest and hp and your set.

What a terrible way to play
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>>125682091
>>125682258
What about Nourishings and heavy abyssals?
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>>125691489
why does loranon hate benjie so much, the worst the dude has done is shitpost a bit. he's helped nearly half the thread and organizes fight clubs.
>tfw some anons just cannot into banter

>>125691007
lol
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Name one weapon that is more effective than the Saw Cleaver. Also mention why.
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>>125691607
meant to quote

>>125690385
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>>125691592
beast cutter is very weird. it doesn't have noticeably great rally, but it has insane hyperarmor. i think if it had great rally it would be a really interesting strategy, and when we find guidance 3 i'll probably play with it

beastcutter is better than people realize
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>>125691401
No that still works
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>>125689903
pat fuck off
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>>125691410
pizza cutter is a good PVE weapon, get a fast weapon with a moveset you like for PVP
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>>125691592
Pretty shite actually. You'd think a weapon that slow and heavy would at least be remedied with some unreal rally potential.
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>>125691705
for pve or pvp?
pizza cutter for pve

>beast pellet
>paper/buff of choice
>hold l2
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hey benjie what's your psn? i can't find the bbg ps4 community.
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>>125691705
Saw spear.
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>>125691401

They didn't patch that specifically, however if you do it too many times the boss stops jumping and automatically enters phase 2 with the fucktarded AOE bullshit.
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>>125691587
I'm pretty sure they'll implement it only with the dungeons patch that's about to come, what a bunch of imbeciles.
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Begging for help on Ludwig
at the Nightmare Church lamp near his gate
pass is bbg 149
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>>125691315
>madaras
IS THERE ANY OLD ONE THAT COULD POSSIBLY EVEN FACE
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Has /bbg/ ever made a cosplay build? I'm pretty happy with how my Djura's turning out, but I can get away with using a +10 Gatling Gun, right?
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>>125691816
i mean the deal with beastcutter is it has crazy hyperarmor, range, and damage because it's 100% blunt. you can break 720 pure AR on a 50/25 before paper, and you will very often get a 20% counterhit bonus because of hyperarmor. so lots of 700 damage r2s on players

the weakness is you're tragically easy to parry fish
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>>125691587
>radiance
lol
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>>125691705
Church pick, apparently, both bonuses and 3 32% gems.
Can't ask more than that.
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>>125691835
It still jumps in that phase.
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>>125691903
No promises on the level of player quality but I'll join up.
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>>125690931
He'd never do it anyway.
He's a big vagina.

>>125691007
>I've beaten you in plenty of duels at 6cb
Can't prove it, so no you haven't.

>I'd be tempted by your offer if I felt that there was even a remote chance that you'd honor it.
I didn't post here more than a few times a day for something like 3 weeks, trust me, I'd go and stay go.
My CoD friends from a few years ago all finally got their PS4's and we've been playing BO3 like crazy anyway, so I've even got incentive.

>>125691148
Then how do I still do it?
Am I just that good?
To build the meter with your Rakuyo, do tricks and tricked L2 spins after slams. Be sure to also use Fire/Bolt papers.

>>125691203
Then I really would be an attentionwhore, huh?
I've offered to plenty of times.

>>125691489
lol pls no
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>>125691587
>beating us
>still hasn't been found
>likely doesn't exist
Yeah guy, they're miles ahead of us already. Great competition.
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>>125691903
Bl?
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>>125692007
i have revolver ocelot, monsoon, and mercedes cosplays

i also cosplay the old hunter mobs in the nightmare a lot. it's really funny to invade and slow walk pretending to be a mob
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>>125691692
>why does loranon hate benjie so much
I explained why. I told you EXACTLY why. He attacked my advice just so he could try to hog up all the imaginary praise and adulation that comes with posting Defiled Hotdog strats. He's a fucking retard.
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How does physical defense work?

If I have 200 base defense and 200 physical reduction from armor, do I have 400 physical defense?
Is it the same system as Dark Souls 1?
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>>125691835
She will jump away for free tail hit in that phase.
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why are charred hunter gloves the best gloves and what can be done about it
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>>125692120
it's in the guide fampai
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>>125692108
>Can't prove it, so no you haven't.
Plug your ears and pretend if you want. I know what I've done and who I've killed. I've killed you. Plenty.
> trust me
Why should I? Today you sank to even newer lows and tried to pretend like you were the good guy in the hotdog incident. Revisionist history? Really bro? And now you want me to trust you? Hilarious.
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>>125692108

Autism
U
T
I
S
M
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>>125691315
shit anon, sorry, if you die ring me up again
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>>125691831
ragincajunnugz

>>125692007
Did you color correct him?
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>>125692258
The chalices patch hasn't come out. It's clearly not implemented yet.
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Level 100 or 120?
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>>125692248
You can accept Old Hunter Gloves and Ashen Hunter Gloves into your heart.
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>>125692171
If it's imaginary why would you give a shit

>someone 'attacked' my games tips so I hate them!

Are you 12? put the situation into perspective man, christ
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>>125691883
>the dungeons patch that's about to come

lol
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>>125692463
CHALICE PATCH ALREADY FUCKING HAPPENED YOU DUNCE. IT WAS NEVER PLANNED FOR "AFTER". IT WAS THE 9GB PATCH WITH OLD HUNTERS, RITUAL MATERIAL AT THE INSIGHT BATH AND SHARED FIXED DUNGEONS. THAT'S IT
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>>125692491
>not father g's bandages
Gotta have that hint of beast on you
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>>125681982
church pick with 25/50 STR/SKL is:
176 base
50% of 0.4 STR scaling = 1.2 multiplier
85% of 0.7 SKL scaling = 1.595 multiplier
176 * 1.2 * 1.595 = 336.864 AR without gems
693 AR with tempering = 337 * 1.272^3
785 AR with thrust = 337 * 1.326^3

it's possible i've made an error but that's how i understand the calculation. mugen says the base AR with 25/50 is 318, so i might be wrong about the scalings; if that's the case then the correct numbers are 654 and 751 respectively. i was pretty sure pick was 0.4/0.7 but apparently mugen disagrees
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>>125692258
The ENBook of fanfiction, headcanon and blatantly made up shit isn't a very good source. Those guides ruined their credibility with the DaS2 one they put out, chocked full of blatantly incorrect and made up information.
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>>125692625
>>125692629
They said they would do something AFTER the dlc.
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>>125692491
Ashens are good, I also really like Henryk's
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>>125692629
It's amazing how many people can't read. They actually think there's another patch coming for the chalices.
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>>125692576
>If it's imaginary why would you give a shit
I've got nothing better to do when I'm on 4chan.
>Are you 12? put the situation into perspective
Again, I've got nothing better to do. He's an obnoxious shitbird and he specifically attacked me. I told him that day, I'd never stop shitting on him for it. I'm true to my word.
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>9 0 M I N U T E S
>0
>M
>I
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>U
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>>125692334
Can't help it.

>>125692325
k
Don't say I never gave you the opportunity.
Hell, if you gave me solid proof I'd leave right now.
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>>125692449

>Black hair

Motherfucker.
Alright let's take it from the top, at least I got the face nailed down. It's weird, I got him friendly on another file and took a screenshot at night and it looked silvery/gray.

Which given that he's old & retired, you'd think it'd be true.
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>>125692171
and you...hate him for that? that's kinda pathetic. i mean, a mild dislike maybe, but you HATE him?

get a trip

>>125691581
thanks for the massive help anon, i got him in the end. as you could see, no damage.
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>>125692007
I made a Youmu and a Yukari before the dlc
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>>125692683
>chocked full of blatantly incorrect and made up information.
i want 5 examples
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Jesus, orphan is a cunt
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>>125692683
Lorewise there's nothing offensive about the guides, but they're definitely full of inaccuracies as far as gameplay goes. IIRC the DaS2 guide said it had SL matchmaking
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>>125692726
No. They said "separate". Which is what happened. The Chalices got improved and then a couple days later the DLC came out.
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>>125692754
Damn, that's autistic as fuck
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>>125692173
there are two separate defense stats. there is your DEF, which you get from leveling up, and there is your damage reduction, which you get from armor. damage reduction from armor is a straight 1% reduction for every 10 armor points

DEF is more complicated. it's a bimodal function. when AR >= DEF, then damage = 0.9 * AR * attack multiplier - 0.5 * DEF; that is, DEF reduces incoming damage by 0.5 per DEF. when AR < DEF, the value of DEF shrinks (because otherwise you would have attacks that do 0 damage)
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Autism all over the shop, you'll be one of them, sooner or later
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>>125692754
>admitting to being a giant fucking baby throwing a never ending tantrum
holy shit lol
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>>125692754
jesus
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>>125692857
>yfw you beat da orfen

YEOOOOOOW
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>>125692840
not him but DUDE POISON GEMS ON CHIKAGE LMAO
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>>125692007
I've done my best to make this guy.
It's not really working out though.
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>>125686156
>make a 98 character
>never get invasions
nice meta badbabbies
>muh "i want combat to be 2-3 hits"
>muh "i only want to be good with one weapon"
>muh "reddit R1 and vialspam is so hard to counter"
>p-please play with me
>this is a viable and fun meta guys
>come on...

I kind of want to post your shitty "meta" on reddit just to have redditors fuck your speshul club up. But the more likely outcome is that it'd get 1-2 replies and nobody would give a shit, just like here. :^)
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>>125682989
O dam anon, you have a pretty good style. Reminds me a lot of Yoji Shinkawa's stuff.
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>>125689901
Yeah, let's always shoot for the minimum for no reason.
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>>125692754
He's sorely in need of shitting on, but your rationale seems off
>>
MAJESTIC
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>>125692094
Sorry I keep falling for these roll catches
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>>125693051
the NEW old hunters guide says you shouldn't ever level str for the pick, even though returns under 25str basically equal returns over 25skill

not to mention heavy abyssal gems
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>>125692754
blimey
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>>125692897
>>125692948
he's a shitposter, and worse, a martyr. if he really cared about the quality of the thread, he'd get a trip.

see how benjie offered to put on a trip, but no one cares. i wonder how many people want loranon to put on a trip. i wonder if this makes loranon hate benjie more?

>>125693113
BL98 is just the standard /bbg/ meta so you can invade BL80s and ignore the BL150s. anything from BL98 - BL120 is fine in the fightclubs and in the thread. just sayin. passwords make the meta kinda moot if you want co-op/spelunking anyway.
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>>125693226
No prob, guy.
I think he works on a system where the last person who hit him is his target, so lay off the projectiles unless you want to draw aggro.
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>>125693128
That's what a build is, genius.
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>>125689214
baka should just so level 4 waste of skin runs desu senpai
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the fuck is going on in this thread
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>>125693113
I actually have non stop invasions in Mensis, right know while I type this.

I just wonder where these shitposters come from. Before the Dlc bbg was max comfy. Guys from /v/?
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tfw ludwig is about the charge and the person hes aggro'd on walks in front of you.

Good thing i had maximum luck stats
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>>125693412
KOSM
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>>125693320
>BL98 is just the standard /bbg/ meta
>less than 100 unique IPs
>even less than that adhere to the "meta"
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>>125692029
So does 25/50 church pick now do more damage than 50/25 with strength abyssals?

How would you maximize damage now with 50/25?
1 heavy abyssal
2 thrust % up

?
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>>125693512

nah faggot it's Kos
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>>125693412
We're being granted Eyes Anon, can't you see?
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Everyone seems to think a cannon is just for show
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>>125693512
>out eyes have yet to open
Master Willem was right all along, we were not prepared
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>>125693557
>everyone who ever PvPs from /bbg/ posted in this thread
>grasping so hard
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>>125692805
It is silver/grey, that screenshot is wrong.
I think they said something else was off, too, but you're probably good.

>>125692754
I thought you generally didn't like me or something.
You literally just said you're doing it just because and don't care you act like a child.

>>125693130
Why? What'd I do?

>>125693412
We got back to comfy pre-DLC levels, can't you tell?
LOL
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>>125692926
Is the 300 hp from HP runes really better than 17% physical reduction?
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>>125693413
>>125693691
>continues posting
>look guys im being invaded so hard its hard to keep posting xDxD
>so many people play 98 you should t-too!
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>>125693710
>I thought you generally didn't like me or something.
It's both. It took me awhile to even connect the dots. At first I thought hotdogfaggot and you were two different people. But then you basically let slip that you were both of my least favorite people in the thread and it became a whole lot easier to hate you.
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>>125693562
25/50 church pick does more damage than 50/25 with thrust. with non-thrust, 50/25 does more

and yeah, if you are running 50/25 and want to maximize, it's 1 heavy and 2 thrust up. but you lose a decent chunk of AR by my napkin math
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>>125693887
Sorry friendo
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>>125693887
>not even PvPing, just pointing out idiocy in greentext
keep digging
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guys what in the fuck is going on with captcha
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>>125692449
sweet. found the bbg community through your psn. thanks.
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>>125693889
>hate
Loranon, I...

Give the 1v1 some thought. I'm leaving work now. I'm so serious about it that I'll give you personal info if you want.

I'll be back in an hour or so.

>>125693887
>>125694007
The original reply was to me, of which neither responses were me.
How hilarious.
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I didn't know that hellkite came back
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>>125694137
heh
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>>125694172
Oh, right on. I thought you were going to get me banned again or something.
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>>125688434
Jesus, where do you live? Also cpus can handle up to like 75 celsius before they start to overheat so should be fine.
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>>125694216
>I'm so serious about it that I'll give you personal info if you want.
Stop posturing for the benefit of onlookers. You know I'm not going to engage in your dickwaving contest. You've already shown yourself to be entirely untrustworthy.
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>>125693969
neato, thanks

I think it's probably worth it for cannon, gatling gun, and all of the strength weapons like beast cutter with blunts. I don't mind lower visceral attack damage either.
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>>125693887
who are you? serious question, I'm intrigued, the rest of us just ignore the meta talk and no one gets hot and bothered
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>>125694249
Yea his music stuff is pretty nice. I wonder if he will data mine DS3 PC.
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>>125694216
this 1v1 needs to be streamed. dat drama.
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>>125693820
because HP increases also increase healing, there is no difference between increasing your health by a %, and decreasing your incoming damage by a %. so you should take whatever % is bigger, but you have to make sure to convert them to the same units, because adding and subtracting a % are not the same thing (the question is, "a % of what base?"). for example, reducing your incoming damage by 50% is like increasing your health by 100%


the 5% reduction rune is better than the 5% health rune because 1/0.95 = 5.26%. but the 10% health rune is better even than the 7% physical rune. the health runes are much better
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this would probably be a bad time to ask what level is recommended for pvp/invasions, isn't it?
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>>125694172
Wait, I literally use PS4 as a BloodBorne machine. There are Groups like Steam?
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>>125688439
Reddits argument to use everything in the game is fucking stupid, but going 110-120 so you can use arc and skill, or softcap 2 attack stats is literally the same as 40/40/40/40 in dark souls 1.

Now softcapping 2 stats AND getting a shitton of arc is just ridiculous.

120 is good because it gives you options, but also limits how far you can go without feeling restricting. Have fun with your shit tier 25/50 or 50/25 quality. I'll be having fun on my 117 50/50.
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>tfw no cheesy poison builds in BB like in Ds2
i miss poking people and watch their HP drop harder than a nuke
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>>125692007
AWAY AWAY Build:

Yharnam Clothing
50 Arc
50 Str
Hunter Axe/Torch
Optional Beast Rune
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>>125694570
Plan for 98, if you don't hqve fun you can always level up. Easy.
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>>125694570
literally any level you want
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>>125694727
Can you actually make the Hunters torch do good damage?
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>>125694570
Go for 98, 110 or 120/125. Whatever suits your playstyle more. Nobody really cares.
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>>125694815
probably
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>>125694351
what you get banned for? bbg community doesn't show up if you browse bb communities so i couldn't find it anymore. i was lurking it before. seems it grew from 20 people to about 100 now.
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So I have a shitter PvE build with 35/35 STR/SKL and 40 Arc. I kinda wanna go on it just to fuck around with the Moonlight Sword but not sure, should I go full phys gems or arc gems?

If arc, which arc gems should I start farming?
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>>125694593

Yeah.
>>
I can combine blunt/thrust with elemental%, right? Or are they classified as a type of physical damage?
>>
Is there any reason to do sinister chalice dungeons like Sinister Loran Chalice or is it just for PVP enable dungeons? I don't have PS plus at the moment so I don't want to suffer through doing it for no reason. Are there any unique items/weapons/bosses or whatever?
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>>125694570

100 up to 110 is the sweet spot to get the most action, above is reddit below is tryhards
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>>125694926
Hu... c-can I join?
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Is going into Old Hunters on a fresh game a bad idea.
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>>125694007
>>125694132
>>125694216
>>125694730
>Le "your posts are so shitty we need to defend our shitty meta at every opportunity" mentality
>Guys please join the THRIVING 98 meta that is BOOMING with invasions and isn't just a few shitposters who can't get with the times!
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>>125694593
yeah it came with the new patch a while back. search benjie's psn and join the bbg community. i'm not sure if it's like steam but it's pretty limited so far. i'm sure they will improve upon it in the future.
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>>125694570
43, 80, 98, 105, 110, 116, 120, 125, 150

pick one
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>>125695023
What do you mean? Like NG?

If you are level like 65-70 you should be fine
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>>125686595
This.

For anyone who doesn't have a complex about normies on reddit, just go to a level where you can still get invaded by the few people who cap themselves at 98.
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>>125682023
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>>125695023
Who uses wet wipes while fapping?
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>>125694615
>literally the same as 40/40/40/40 in dark souls 1
28/40 was the proper quality build, though
>>
I went with 100 because it's a round number, have the stats I want, get regular random co op in all areas, and with the password system I can help anyone in /bbg/ but I'm a Confederate, not a pvper so there's that
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>>125694815

I have a +10 Hunter's Torch on my 99 ARC. I totally forgot how much damage it deals, but you can definitely stunlock Brainsuckers with it.

>>125695016

Of course, but I don't have the authority (I think?) to invite you, nor am I currently at home.
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>>125688105
Why are extremely short fights good? You can take 2.5 hits and you won't really get to play any mind games at all. This is worse for people using guns and cannons.
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>bl98 shitposting coincides with namefags getting upset
hmm. sus
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>>125695095
What has >>125694007 to do with that? Also what's wrong with choosing a lower level so you can level up if you don't like it?
>>
What's the lore on brainsuckers? Did the church create them to drain insight from Yharnamites?
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>>125695452
>This is worse for people using guns
honestly we need to do literally everything in our power to make this game worse for people using guns

in a healing meta the correct strat against parry fishing is to dodge until they waste 20 bullets. it sucks
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>>125695224
Cute character, anon.
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>>125695023
kill bsb
run to hemwick to get your weapon to +6
kill vicar
rush through the first few depths of pthumeru to you make it to depth 3 lower pthumeru
farm watchers on d3 l1 for %18 gems

now you're ready to tackle the dlc at <BL45 just a few hours after making a new character
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With 50str/25skl and heavy abyssal can I run pizza cutter and a dex wep like pick or rakuyo,
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So, /bbg/
What the absolute best gems? Are 27.2% (any) the best to have? What about gimmicks such as Blunt/Thrusting? How about Poorman or Charging ATK Up?
I suppose it would be contextual depending on the weapon, but I'm talking about overall.

Has anyone found a 27.2% with a secondary effect? Is that even possible? Is it possible to get 27.2% (or higher) Bloodtinge?

Tell me, /bbg/
What works for you?
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>>125694962
>I can combine blunt/thrust with elemental%, right? Or are they classified as a type of physical damage?
no, you can't. they are only physical types
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>>125695409
>but you can definitely stunlock Brainsuckers with it.
FINALLY someone else who uses their brain. It makes me laugh when I see people complain about brainsuckers being OP. You can stunlock them to death with the hunter's torch; even works on the boss versions.
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Piercing Rifle or Evelyn for a BT build?
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So I just got into this game

I really want to make a beast claw build with the new DLC stuff

How can I do this
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>>125695740
>Is it possible to get 27.2% (or higher) Bloodtinge?
31.5% look in OP
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>>125694570
If you want maximum contact with other players who are 'serious' about pvp, then stay around 120-130 so you can still get invaded by everyone. You can invade people going up to 150 and people around the 110s.
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>>125693336
Thanks a ton man
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>>125695685
maybe not rak

but saw spear and pick work
maybe saif too
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>>125695624
>I DONT LIKE THINGS
>JOIN MY META PLS
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ebin
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>>125695452
>you won't really get to play any mind games at all
You get to play mind games for those 2.5 hits. Why is that a bad thing to you?
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>>125695814
Follow this to speedrun to the chalice with the beast claws inside.
To get the beast mode rune, you need to beat the cleric beast with added shockwaves. He's fightable after 1 DLC boss prior to him.
Build STR.
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>>125695624
I meant the gameplay is worse when people are using guns and cannons because they can do easy high amounts of ranged damage.
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>>125695740
>Are 27.2% (any) the best to have?
no. this is a very common misconception. you can be far cheesier than that
>What about gimmicks such as Blunt/Thrusting?
extremely important. if your weapon does these damage types then adept gems will add insane damage. this is how you make some of the "shitty" weapons good, like beastcutter which is 100% blunt
>How about Poorman or Charging ATK Up?
it's possible to get +40% charging, poorman, etc. gems from red-aura madmen in ihyll, but it's psychotically rare. you can settle for 21% phys + 12% charging. the secondary stacks multiplicatively with the primary, so it's very good. another really good secondary is attack up v. open foes, which works on visceral damage

you can't get 27.2% with a secondary UNLESS it's a special type, i.e. you can get 28.4% blunt + a secondary

it is possible to get 31.5% blood damage gems, but they are offshape drops and psychotically rare
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>>125695329
Yeah because two handing weapons increased strength requirements so 27-28/40 was essentially 42/40. But It's possible to go 40/40/40/40 at 120 if you wanted to.
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what's the snarkiest message you can make in Bloodborne? My fave sin DeS were this one and "thought there would be a hint?"
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>>125696012
Compared to a situation that isn't basically a quick draw fight? Use that little noggin of yours.
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>>125695987
thats a spidar
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>>125695950
No problem. It was fun.
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>>125688105
Looks like you don't even have 140BL character.
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>>125696004
attack down really should be removed from the game

it's just not viable on any level and from should have realized this.
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>>125695964
yes, exactly that, but unironically. literally what is wrong with that? you can just go to fishing hamlet if you want to do something else

if you hate MLGpro organized pvp then whatever but it's silly to become an antonym and insist that some other way to play is the One True Bloodborne
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>>125695950
What area in DS2 is that?
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>>125696056
That's interesting. I'll need to experiment more
I have 3x 27.2% but have done for the longest while, I don't hang here very often

How can you be far cheesier, if you can tell me? I find the bloodgem addition to the game very meta and it's interesting to me
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>>125694974
Halp plz
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>>125696190

nothing but grief here
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Anyone be able to help me with the research hall? I can't find the brain fluid for shit. SL 104 bee tee dubs.
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>>125696004
>not having stats for the bow on a 50bt character
m8
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This fucker Valtr is the mvp, he took so many attacks to the face, then survived till the end of the fight with basically one hp. Consider me impressed.

If you want and easy ludwig fight he defiantly the only Co-oper you need.
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>>125696208
>basically a quick draw
You've never pvped below 150, have you?
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>>125694974
there's no reason to do them basically
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>>125696416
No reason to go there but for specific chalice codes
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>>125696476
bow sucks.
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>>125696359
>but it's silly to become an antonym and insist that some other way to play is the One True Bloodborne
Which, unironically, is what BL98 shitters are literally doing.
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>>125696468
>I can't find the brain fluid for shit.
youtube

>>125696448
i left 'nothing but nightmares here' basically everywhere on release and got tons of ratings

>>125696487
it's a shame so many people summon the useless chick instead
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>>125696208
it's more like 3 quick draw fights. played in a continuous sequence. like, as one fight. what are you saying
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>>125696468
Sure I'll help. What's the password?
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>>125696190
you're in the know, right?
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>>125696680
bbg456
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>>125696624
there is no such thing as ironic shitposting, you're just doing the same thing as what you say you hate. i don't get it
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>>125696476
bl 91 so i still have points to spend even after pumping vit to 50

bow seems like a really boring gimmick to me though. don´t like the idea of it at all

i also rekt everyone using it vs me so far
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>>125696759
Rang at the lamp
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Gonna start my farm for a heavy abyssal to stick on my pizza cutter, I hope this suffering will be worth it
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>>125695790

Yeah, before I got my weapons all gemmed up, I used the torch to stunlock the Brainsuckers in Isz. It was hilarious how easily they went down.

>>125695809

Evelyn is faster and can parry, but the Piercing Rifle, as the name suggests, "pierces" through enemies. It can hit multiple targets at once. They deal similar amount of damage, so just choose whichever one works better for the situation you're in.
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>>125694570
Do 137. You can co op down to 98, invade 116 (Another good level, which in turn invades 98's).

You have to deal with some 150 shitters, but honestly they're usually pretty fucking bad players so it's not hard to deal with their shit.
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>>125696781
Do you even read? you're doing the same thing which you're complaining about.
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Okay, what should I do to improve this character? I've been told it's shit, but not WHY it's shit(other than the obvious skin colour issues).
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>>125697003
eyebrows and eyes
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>>125696878
it's only a little worth it for pizza cutter. scaling gems are better when the scaling on the weapon is initially worse, because scaling stacks additively rather than multiplicatively. so if the base scaling is bad it is a big % increase, but if the base scaling is great it is a weaker % increase. 1 is almost always worth it, but "worth it" can range from a 5 AR bonus to a 40 AR bonus depending on the weapon
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>>125696190
'Nothing but messages here, oh, inquisitiveness!' with clapping, somewhere that offers no content
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>>125697003
it looks like a fucking bloated corpse pulled out of the water

jesus christ dude how could you seriously think this looks good
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If I use Kos without the head, is it still Arcane?

Like if you wanted to make a fist buil should I go pure Arcane?
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>>125697001
i...know you are...but what...am i? literally what is this
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>>125697003
she has a seam running from the bottom of her nose to the bottom of her chin. Eyes are too big and will be too far apart when you make them smaller. Nose is too far down and pretty wide. She is pretty 'moon-faced' too
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>>125697003
The chin's kinda sharp, and the brow is...really weird looking. Were you going for an albino look, anon? If so you might work better with red or blue eyes.
The area around the eyelids make it look like your character either hasn't slept for days but is on some crazy stimulants, or they've been on meth.
Then again, most everyone in Yharnam is addicted to blood, being more intoxicating than alcohol, but the Good Hunter isn't from Yharnam...
Yeah aside from those, I think your slider-fu is pretty okay.
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>>125697213
yes, it's still arcane. the only real difference is that without milkweed it probably favors flat gems heavily
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>>125696939
Is the Evelyn the highest damaging firearm that can parry?
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>>125697438

Technically, it's the Blunderbuss, but you have to make all the pellets hit an enemy, and I'm pretty sure that can only be done at point-blank. Evelyn is the fastest and most consistent.
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>>125697438
repeater is better, but the damage increase isn't worth it at 50bt

stick with evelyn because it has style
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Anyone up for helping with the Blood Starved Beast in Ailing Loran?

I figure a second person might make him die faster.
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Is it worth using a Blood Rock on firearms? If so, which ones?
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>>125695958
What's wrong wrong with raw if saif works?
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>>125697543
fantastic, thank you.
I'm in the process of planning my first BT build and I don't really know what I'm doing to be honest. I usually play these games blind. I was thinking probably Evelyn and Repeating Pistol for my sidearms, and Chikage and Bowblade as weapons.
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>>125697265
>but it's silly to become an antonym and insist that some other way to play is the One True Bloodborne
>continually insists that level 98 is the one true meta to play to avoid memes and reddits and healers and noobs
>accuses someone else of hypocrisy
>reduced to shitposting
BL98ers everybody. You'd find a more coherent post from the reddits. :^)
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>>125697438
Piercing rifle can parry, it's just got a ludicrous delay on firing that makes it highly impractical for it.
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>>125697659
Gatling gun, Cannon, Evelyn, Repeater, Piercing Rifle
Evelyn & PR only if you're a blt build. The rest can go on pretty much any build that can wield them if you have the rocks to spare.
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>>125697690
the weapon needs at least some STR scaling to begin with or it's impossible to salvage with a heavy
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>>125696056
>beastcutter which is 100% blunt
WAIT REALLY?!

I have a couple 31% gems sitting around on my Bloodletter build. My Bloodletter build with a Beast Cutter Secondary...
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>>125690367
then go talk to the dweller in the chapel you doof
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>>125697751
>continually insists that level 98 is the one true meta
i'm....i'm not personally responsible for every post you don't like? i think that's fairly obvious?
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>>125696868
thx m8
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>>125697938
yeah I did until I've exhausted his dialogue
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>>125697805
cannon is shit now
only 2 shots (WITH BLOODBULLETS) unless you waste runes and it only hits for like 1k on bosses

>>125697690
saif is D str
rak isn't even E
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Does the Beast Cutter deal serration damage in either of its forms? It seems like the whip form should, like the Cane does, and the cleaver form does have serrated teeth running along it.
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pizza cutter and amy arm make PvP so easy I switched to boom hammer just for a challenge. You weren't kidding, it sucks
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Best Arcane gems for Moonlight sword?
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>>125697924
yeah. ALL attacks are blunt, in both forms. 1x heavy and 2x blunt = ~720 AR on a 50/25, VERY scary stuff.

here is a spreadsheet someone posted last night showing the damage type and multiplier of every single attack:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1doP2HShMmJcHZFTNSZ3yVFxbUu4U1aO6yHIk9-wQ1Wo/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=222193878

there is some wild shit in here. for example, almost every attack on moonlight sword is blunt

the truth is that a LOT of weapons can use 32.6% gems and as soon as people realize this the damage meta is going to get even more extreme
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>no chalice dungeons whatsoever
>three more areas and bosses in the main game

Would the game be improved?
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Can I get a pointer on where to go? Killed the Blood Starved Beast and still getting reked by gatling gun dude.
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>>125697416
>The area around the eyelids make it look like your character either hasn't slept for days but is on some crazy stimulants, or they've been on meth.
That part, at least, is on purpose. She's supposed to look like a crazy/sickly, blood-addled Vileblood.
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>>125697924
the bloodletters untransformed r1s are also blunt so you can get up to 500+
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>>125697951
>keeps on replying
(You)
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>>125692943
Source?
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>>125698221
Neat. I still recommend fixing the brow, soften it up.
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>>125698085
i'm pretty sure it does because i r2 beast bosses for numbers that should not be possible without the serration bonus. 720 AR, r2 has a 1.3 multiplier, but i break 1000 on abhorrent beast and ludwig. has to be serrated

>>125698172
d5 FRCs are super comfy. what they should have done is cut hintertomb and pthumeru depths 1-3, and done a better job balancing gem rewards. the actual endgame SRRC is a good feature
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>>125698175
After you kill BSB, Gehrman in the workshop will have some new dialogue directing you on where to go next.
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>>125698446
Alright thanks.
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>>125698165
>the truth is that a LOT of weapons can use 32.6% gems
I need the vast majority of the moveset to be the right damage type before considering it. I wouldn't even use thrust gems on a rifle spear or reiterpallasch because of the sheer amount of slashing attacks and the gun damage concern. Same thing with HMS to be honest. Maybe one or two blunt gems would be a good call, but nourishing has a really strong effect on HMS in particular.

>>125698334
Yeah but if I'm slapping blunts in my Bloodletter, the trick mode will suffer. There's no such thing as blunt blood damage right?
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>>125698343
i don't even know what this means

>>125698175
a door opens in oedon chapel. you can also get killed by one of the bag-men that has spawned around the world
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>>125688105
We discussed this a few days ago, and some anon that was familiar with the mechanics behind damage made the point that the damage gained from going to 150 far outweighed the natural defense gained. Fights would be even shorter.
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>>125698165
how do I know which attack type is which? what do the colors mean?
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>>125698528
>i don't even know what this means
top kek. stick to your shitty meta pls
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What would be a good weapon for an arcane build to put bolt on specifically for kin?
Got 18 strength and 12 skill. I was thinking the threaded xame but im not sure, any suggestions?
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>>125698518
>Same thing with HMS to be honest.
did you look at the sheet? because for trick mode HMS literally every attack is blunt except the L2, and for untricked every attack is blunt except the R2. that's a pretty serious consideration

same with bloodletter 1h, i mean the point of gems should be to customize weapons. bloodletter 1h moveset is good so if there's some way to get it doing insane 1h damage on a low-BLT build that's an interesting build
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Can someone help me kill ludwig, level 55 getting my ass kicked summoning scrubs
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Such a shame I see people barely to never use this beaut.
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>>125698741
I used a lightning saw spear on my arc build and it was bretty gud, saw weapons are all pretty good when elemental
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>>125698652
green is thrust, orange is blunt, red is blood, blue is arcane

>>125698741
thrust doesn't matter since you can't have "bolt thrust" damage. so go with the moveset you like best. i kind of like pizza cutter because it has multi-hit attacks, and bolt gems can get very good +flat, which works well with multi-hit. also cuz pizza is crazy good in PvE
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>>125698741
You can use any weapon you want on a pure arcane build, just pick what ever weapons move set you like he most
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>>125698886

Did you pick up this game with the DLC or something?
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>>125697419
Ok cool, thanks.

Now to start a new character.
Never did a pure Arc character before, I'm going to have a rough start aren't I
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>>125698842
>trick mode HMS literally every attack is blunt
Yes but trick mode takes arcane damage into account on more than just the L2/R2 attacks. I was messing around with nourishing last night and actually ended up without noticeable damage losses in practice when I swapped an 18.6% nourishing into my HMS instead of a 25% tempering.


>that's an interesting build
I guess, but I'm not big on gimmicks. I prefer being able to fully apply your weapon to it's utmost potential. that includes both modes. This is why I run 25 Str on my Bloodletter and refuse to use thrust gems on my Rifle Spear.
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Does the whirligig saws serrated bonus carry over even when used on an arcane build?
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>>125698867
Yeah sure. You got a pass?
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>>125698886
>S tier weapon
>never use
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>>125699109
cruel fate
acquire saw spear
acquire flamesprayer, upgrade it
kill BSB
acquire fire crescent below church workshop
do hemwick, upgrade saw to +6
murder amelia with fire saw
rush to cainhurst, get exec gloves
cheese the first chalice twice with exec gloves
hotdog drops a fire radial each time
grats, you have 3 fire gems and the game is now trivial
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Now I can't kill the second brain fluid enemy. What the fucking fuck. Nothing I do kills it. It does the scream, goes flat, then it perks back up and I do it over again.
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Is The One Reborn a joke boss?

>start wailing on him
>he gets stunned
>rinse and repeat

I don't even bother to kill the casters.
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>>125699263
Bro1234 worldwide
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NEED LORE HELP
NOW

IF U DED GERHMAN > U BECOME GERHMAN
BUT FOR WHAT REASON

IF U DED MOON PRESENCE > YOU BECOME SQUID (GREAT ONE?)
BUT HOW? AND WHY? THAT MAKES NO SENSE

IF U PACIFIST > U WAKE UP
SO THE ENTIRE HUNT IS JUST A DREAM? OR WHAT

ALSO
IS KOS MORE SIGNIFICANT THAN OTHER GREAT ONES? WHY DID SHE HAVE A CHILD? [SPOILER] WHY IS THAT CHILD AN ASSHOLE? [/SPOILER]

WHY DOES MARIA HAVE COOL BLOOD/FIRE POWERS? IS SHE A GREAT ONE TOO OR SOME SHIT? [SPOILER] WHY CANT I HAVE COOL BLOOD/FIRE POWERS???? [/SPOILER]
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>>125699202
>I prefer being able to fully apply your weapon to it's utmost potential...this is why I run 25 Str on my Bloodletter
that's not the utmost potential of the 1h bloodletter, though. the utmost potential is 50 STR and blunt gems

i understand the need for diversity, builds that can only do one thing are shit, but it is often the case that you can't make a build that does everything. and there is going to be a BIG damage difference between a 25 bloodletter and a 50 bloodletter with blunt gems
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Can anyone help me with Logarius? PSN is ZuesAres, message me if you're willing to help. BL64
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>>125699326
Neat, thanks.
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>>125699415
Well memed, friend. Guaranteed responces
>>125699326
>cheese the first chalice twice with exec gloves
hotdog drops a fire radial each time
grats, you have 3 fire gems

Im retarded for never thinking of that and i love arcane builds
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>>125699520
>that's not the utmost potential of the 1h bloodletter,
But you're missing the point completely. The Bloodletter is 2 weapons at once. Focusing your setup to be excessively oriented towards one mode or another is exactly what I don't like to do. That's not using the whole weapon to it's full potential. That's just using one aspect of it. It's like going to the gym and always skipping your legs.
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>>125699778
Except tricking the bloodletter costs a bloodbullet's worth of HP.
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is 60 arc worth it for the tools?
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>>125699387

once you get the brain fluid once you can't get it a second time dum dum
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Are rapid poison gems useful on whirligig?
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>>125700028
>Are rapid poison gems useful
no
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>>125699943
It's less than a blood bullet and if you use the transform attack, it pays for itself. It's not an ideal duelists weapon for that reason, sure. But it's not really a duelists weapon by design. It's for outright no rules dickbag PvP against hapless PvE noobs. That's why it's so edgy. That's why the lore is that an assassin wields it. That's why it's got an L2 that oneshots fragile builds.
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>>125698886
>People barely use it
Nigga, post DLC if my opponent didn't have a chikage or LHB than he had a reiterpallasch
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>>125699778
>The Bloodletter is 2 weapons at once
HMS is another good example. every mode on the HMS is good, including the lasers. so if you want to "use the weapon to its full potential" you need enormous physical stats for the 1h mode, and well-balanced stats for the 2h mode, and enormous arcane stats for the lasers. you can't do this on one build at less than like, bl140

you can't make a weapon optimal in every way simultaneously, just like you can't make a build optimal in every way. you give up power for diversity, and if you give up too much power you end up making a 25/25/25/25 garbage build. everyone accepts limitations for the purpose of viability
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>>125699398
Where are you standing?
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>>125700176
Shit, meant pre-DLC
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>>125698106
bump
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>>125699995
I never got it in the first place. I got the first one, got her blood, fucked off for a while somewhere else, went to get the second brain fluid, and it just won't fucking die.
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>>125700209
Infront of the lamp to the boss fight, bell is ringing
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>>125698106
scaling or for a quality build, nourishing
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>>125700201
>you can't do this on one build at less than like, bl140
Only if you're autistic about always hitting hardcaps. I'm running 30/20/25 and it's working great.
> if you give up too much power you end up making a 25/25/25/25 garbage build.
Ah. So here's the thing: softcaps are a great place to stop leveling. Quality style weapons only really need 50 overall stat points invested to get good damage. I've got 50 in physical damage and 25 in arcane. I'm balanced ideally with 2/3 phy and 1/3 arc.
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>>125700306
Yeah which is weird since post DLC I literally haven't seen one yet.
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>listening to the DLC soundtrack
>Living Failures
>okay, I liked the part where the fight picks up so I'll give it a listen
>they actually included the roars in the actual fucking track
>immediately turned off by the sound effect that just makes the song sound edgy and "cool"
who allowed this
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>>125699967
this is important
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>>125700639
>>125700639
No. For tools it's 70 arc and up
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I'll never be able to deal with all the feints and delayed attacks that From loves to put in their boss fights to fuck people up.
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>>125700639
40 is fine.
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where where you when you realized the reiterpallasch was the best weapon in the game post-DLC?
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>>125700789
In my chair watching the trailer for the DLC.

you can't beat something with a built in evelyn that can parry mid combo.
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>>125700441
>30/25/25
i mean what you lose is 10 points in STR over 30/25/15, which is 14% of the 0.8 scaling, or about 11% damage on the 1h mode. if you prefer the 1h mode then that's a significant loss
>I'm balanced ideally
it's totally not obvious what this means. if you think the lasers are bad then there's nothing ideal about balancing for the lasers
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>>125700593
>that just makes the song sound edgy and "cool"
What? That's not what it's doing at all, it's literally just a fucking groan, mate. It's not some edgy teenage final fantasy fanfiction.

They inserted sfx into most of the dlc tracks as an IP protection measure, since it discourages people from surreptitiously using the tracks in their own videos or other works without permission, which is normally obnoxiously difficult to enforce outside of youtube.
It's not altogether uncommon
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>>125700593
That's because you're listening to a youtube recording instead of the actual soundtrack
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>>125698886
I remember when people called reiter + wooden shield top tier

I don't know what happened to change that
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>>125700779
>literally the bare minimum for a call beyond
you know they scale all the way up to 99, yeah?
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>>125699967
50 arc is fine. i honestly think the 70 arc build is bad, and i have 100s of hours on arc builds

i mean obviously it depends on your target bl. if it's ~100 then it's hard to get 70 without deep cuts
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>>125700905
If that was the case then all of the other songs would have had sound effects in them. Only the Living Failure track does.

>>125700915
refer to previous psot
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>>125700761
Micolash man, why don't you just Augur again after a parry like Micolash does himself?
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>>125700593
the "DLC soundtrack" on youtube is just audio pulled out of let's play clips
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>>125701019
Nothing. Just like estoc + greatshield in souls games, it's just not more widely used because it's literally the most boring way to win. Anybody using it gets bored and loses interest after a while. It remains the arguably strongest tactic in BB pvp, it's just so boring that it eve chases tryhards away.
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>>125701019
new stuff released and everyone is hopping from weapon to weapon trying to figure out if they can topple the king

the church pick is the only one to come close
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Is there a build that can make moonlight sword work effectivly on a BL98 build? And if so what would it be?
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>>125700593
are you also gonna complain that the laurence track sucks too due to hearing his screams in the background? stop listening to youtube rips.
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>bloodletting beast straight up punched through a pillar and killed me
well fuck you too from, guess that pillar is only there for me
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>>125701175
I panicked.
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>>125701024
I assumed it was tools in conjunction with actual weapons.
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>>125701239
it's the church pick. if you're the kind of person who cares about your k/d, start a 25/50 thrust build right now
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>>125700896
>it's totally not obvious what this means
I already defined it. Ideal for me is being able to use both modes on your weapon interchangeably without feeling like you're being sub-optimal at any point. Examples of things I would hate to play are Base SKL chikage or Pure Arc Wheel
> if you prefer the 1h mode then that's a significant loss
I'm not telling people what preferences to have. I'm just sharing mine. I don't believe in speccing yourself with a focus on only half a weapon.
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>>125701174
All of them do, but there already exists edits on youtube that removed the offending sound effect by copy/pasting a different point in the song over it. Since parts repeat, you just have to find the point in which the spoiled part is played without the sfx and paste it over the part with the sfx.
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>>125700420
I've got 30/30/50 str, skl, arc.

atm using pic related gems but desu I've never actually looked into arcane gemming before so I don't have a fucking clue what I'm doing.

this was my first build from way back at launch so the stats are retarded I know.
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Quick, need help with a cosplay character I'm about to start.

What is the color of the Plip Ploppers skin?

Can't remember but I'm thinking just really pale?
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>>125700445
Thank god, the best thing the DLC did was actually add some variety to PVP, people are actually using different weapons now.
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AS YOU ONCE DID FOR THE VACUOUS ROM
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>>125701236
Estoc turtling in DaS1 ain't boring, it's very active
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im a robin maria hbu bb
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>>125701385
>without feeling like you're being sub-optimal at any point
your preference is not wrong, i'm just saying that you're objectively sub-optimal at many points. the kinds of losses you're throwing around are like, 10% (in the case of HMS) to 30-40% (in the case of blunt bloodletter). diversity has real value too, so it's not a wrong way to build
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>>125701441
youre gonna want nourishing then
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>>125701471
GRANT US EYES, GRANT US EYES
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GUYS
I'm gonna get The Old Hunters tomorrow, I've left my character at level 60 with a strength build with a +10 Ludwigs Holy Blade.
Im Str/Arc mainly, is there any different weapons that I can use from the DLC with my Str/Arc build?
Thanks, lads.
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>>125701573
>Estoc turtling
>DaS1
Disgusting cancer
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>>125696190
something about fatty near a space that looks like you can walk through it
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>>125701738
PLANT EYES ON OUR BRAINS
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the new guide says Madara's Whistle scales of Arcane. This is wrong, right?
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>>125701573
hes barely turtling. He's practically actually fighting really
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>>125701289
Except that's not in the track I'm listening to. You've ought to give me more credit than not being able to recognize a fucking youtube rip
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>>125701764
OH YES THERE IS ANON

TELL ME, DO YOU LIKE GREATSWORDS?
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>>125701764
man, actually
holy moonlight sword
boomhammer
amygdala's arm
you get all these in the first area of the DLC, you'll have a good time
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>>125701781
is that able to be parried though?
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>>125701573
that dude isn't turtling
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>>125701764
Whirligig Saw. You're gonna love it.
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>>125701907
>>125701915
Cheers, boys!
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>>125700789
Why is it so good?
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>>125701867
You dont even need the game to know thats wrong you imbecile.
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>>125700209
Awesome fight, thanks!
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once you upload the image onto twitter through PS4 how do you get the original size? i remember deleting the large part out of the URL but don't remember what to replace it with.
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>>125702137
No prob, man.
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>>125701857
TO CLEANSE OUR BEASTLY IDIOCY.
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>>125701471
Welcome to McDondalds, can I take your order?
>Ahh Ms, or as some say Mrs.
>Do you hear our order?
>As you once did for the previous customer
>Grant us fries, grant us fries
>Plant fries on our tray so that we may cleanse this beastly hunger
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>>125701573
>mom masks
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>>125702112
I'm sorry. I didn't think someone would actually be paid real american dollars to fuck up this bad
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>>125701447
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I asked this question a few threads ago but I wasn't able to see if anyone responded to it.

Is Simon's Bowblade fun and viable with 25-35 BT? Is the bow damage good with this much BT? I want to use it on my 50 SKL Char.
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I just did a SKL build with burial blade for my first playthrough.

I want my second run to either be BLT, STR, or maybe even ARC, or a mix of all three
So I leave it up to you fellows,
What should my build/weapons be?
This will probably be a lvl 98 pvp build
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>>125702173
instead of large type orig

>>125682023
here i go
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>>125702245
Not using mom masks in DaS1 is like not using chalice gems in BB. You're not impressing anyone by handicapping yourself just to be a hipster, and nobody cares if your excuse when you inevitably lose was "a-at least I'm not minmaxing!"
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>>125702347
>I just did a SKL build with burial blade for my first playthrough.
Subtle bait, I like it.
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>>125701718
Thanks man, are those the 'Nourishing Abyssal All Atk +21.5%' from Amy that I'm seeing on the google sheet?
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>>125702245
>casul
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>>125702289
Great, thank you
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>>125702039
What the fuck is wrong with her face?
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>>125702429
they ruined the fashion though
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>>125702471
What
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>>125702473
yup, but they have an additional side effect that might add arcane ATK or phys ATK which might equal the amount of a 27% gem.
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>>125699415

>In that particular ending, you succeed Gehrman as the host of the Hunter's Dream and release him from his suffering. However, I assume the hunt does not end due to this as the Moon Presence still lives.

>(How?) Because you finally managed to transcend your humanity by defeating the Moon Presence.
>(Why?) Because you ate the three umbilical cords.

>It's ambiguous. Gehrman releases you from the nightmare and you awake from the dream as the sun finally begins to rise. ("Dream" in a Lovecraftian sense. It's like another plane of existence.) The hunt is over, and the revival of Mergo is prevented, but the Moon Presence still lives on, and the aftermath of the events are still fresh.

>Kos was pregnant, but, like all Great Ones, her child was destined to perish. Instead, she washed up on the coast of the Fishing Hamlet with her child still inside of her. I think she's the focal point of the DLC because she was one of the first Great Ones that Byrgenwerth was able to study.

>She has those powers because she has "vileblood" in her. Her set mentions that she is a "distant relative" of the Cainhurst bloodline, so it's no wonder she's able to manipulate blood and fire like that.

Hopefully that helps clarify things. I have a hard time understanding the game sometimes, too.
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>>125702429
>minmaxing only applies to getting 10% health
dis nigga
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>>125702356
Fucking SLIDERS. Best male face I've ever seen
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>>125702746
Cheers, would I be best the with added arc or phys version for my fucked up build?
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>>125702245
>get made at mom mask
>probably uses clockwise rune
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>>125702685
You can't fashion in DaS, learn to enjoy your Hollow Soldier Waistcloth.
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>>125702853
both are fine. secondary effects done rule each other out like the main effects would
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>>125702429
No nigger, not rocking chalice gems in PvP is the equivalent of using a +5 weapon against some cunt with a +15 in DaS1.
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>>125702853
the arc is really rare so you will probably settle for phys

loran amy can't drop arc OR phys. i hate the secondaries from loran so i usually use 2 radials from gargoyles in ihyll; you lose 2.2% damage but you can get great secondaries instead of bad ones
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>>125682023

>tfw you've crushed a ton of vermin and haven't even visited Valtr since he gave you the rune

oops
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>>125702685
>that disgusting mixmatch piece of garbage
>/fa/shion

Kill yourself.
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>first kill is an abyssal
>it has hp depletion
>one hour later; only normal gems
grr
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>>125702980
>some cunt
Finishing the game at low level is easy as shit in DaS.
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>>125701881
>>125701956
Yeah, he uses attacks other than shieldpoke, but the whole reason that fight went how it did is because the CB player was respecting shieldpoke so much. This is what estoc turtling looks like vs. non-shit players. Once they respect the shieldpoke, you have to do lots of other stuff, because competent players will shit on you if you just shieldpoke 100% of the time. The whole "flow" of Estoc is "force players to respect shieldpoke, then once they respect it, mix up with other stuff." Chasing somebody down when they try to retreat from shieldpoke, poking with R1 or black flaming when people try to poisestab shieldpoke, and some other stuff you don't see in this .webm, is all part of Estoc turtling.

The reason he doesn't just sit there and shieldpoke 100% is because it isn't a viable strategy against anybody remotely good at the game.
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>beckoner is on the elevator down to Orphan
>you'veonlygotoneshot.jpg
>broccoli head smash down, miss him but have enough HP to live
>slap him with my spaghetti for ~800 damage, he back off and heals but I catch him with a Blacksky
>he goes to trick his bloodletter
>i hit him with another blacksky
>329 damage from bloodletter and blacksky finishes him

I dunno if he was trying to catch me with the sudoku self-stab for rally or what but that plan backfired pretty bad.
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So what's up with the glowing skeletons in the unseen village after the blood moon?
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>>125702946
Ahh I see, so if it has a secondary effect being physical, while the main is arcane, the main arcane stat will still take priority?
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>>125702337
Plz respond.
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>>125703279
Drag the skeleclusters into them.
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>>125703176
yeah but the point of shield poke is that youre always safe, no risks. Only poking, with the VERY occasional non shield poke. He was just using the estoc regularly
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>>125703279
They're there so you can lure enemies into them.
If you kill a chest enemy with one, the fire goes out. Try extinguishing all of them.
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>>125703279
they witnessed the ritual, but they lacked the eyes to see.

thus, their minds were incapable of processing the information and they burst into flames.

notice how everyone else in yahar'gul just gets petrified? they're facing away from TOR's boss arena
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>>125703449
No, shield poke is not safe. If someone starts circling you must immediately counterstab.
One of the reasons why DaS1 turtling is active.

DaS2 turtling though, oh man
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>>125703304
it wont do much damage
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>>125696004
how to balance curses
>remove atk down and instead have thrust/blunt down (while making thrust/blunt a non-physical damage modifier)
>increase stamina up from %3.2 to %8-12
>change hp depletion to 1-2 hp per 2 seconds or just remove it altogether
>make a new curse for hp depletion on hit (hell, make an entirely new gem for it that has %32 atk up or something)
>consider making the curse scale with the positive attribute
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>tfw randomly get cursed adept blood gemstone
>Thrust Atk up 32%
>Atk vs Beasts down 11%
>while farming for 27.2% radials

>tfw kill shotgun fatty 600 Times and the best Gem I got was
>Blood Atk up 30%
>weapon durability down 58

It's like this Game knows what you want but refuses to give it to you. But for what Purpose?
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>>125703040
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>>125702941
>You can't fashion in DaS
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>>125703725
I got my 31.5% with stamina increase after just a few tries, anon.
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>>125703719
>(while making thrust/blunt a non-physical damage modifier)
Why isn't this already a thing?

Aside from elemental canes and church picks shitting on absolutely everything in the game
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>>125703725
dear christ I hope that blood attack gem was off-shape because the circle ones drop like candy
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>>125703693
you just explained how it is safe bruh
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>>125703693
>use the mannequin-ish anti-backstab chest piece
>+5 poison stinger wih rat ring and 45 DEX
Das2 CAN be fun
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>>125702767
Release him from his suffering from what? Isn't his job just to escort hunters?

But why was the moon presence the one that lets you transcend, instead of Rom the Spider or any other great one? Arent all great ones the same?

The revival of mergo? I have no idea what that means.

Also why are all great ones children destined to die
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>>125703040
knight leggings, giant gauntlets with any other 0 poise armor pieces you want is fashion and optimized
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>>125703937
>Arent all great ones the same?
why would you think this?
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>>125703883
Radial shaped?

>>125703897
I thought it was obvious that I was talking about off-shapes, it was a radial one
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>>125703847
Knight set + Giant gauntlets is about it man. Otherwise you're END dumping past 40.

Have you looked at the stats of Vanquisher's or Eastern? Awful. Defense matters. Weight matters.
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>>125703719
Instead of increasing the numbers on stamina consumption, they should make it be stamina regeneration down. Do the reverse for the positive stamina gem effects, as well. Blunt/thrust should be pseudo secondaries with gems like 20% phys attack, 12% blunt/thrust.

Or, better yet, standardize the damage increases to the gem rank and only have varying secondary effects.
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>>125704087
oh, god no

fuck farming offshapes

if you're doing it for the bow or something, it's not even worth the damage increase
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Is a STR/BLT build viable for CDs and PvP?
I want to do a lot of gun damage but also use the bloodletter/reiterpallasch or something
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>>125703449
>youre always safe, no risks.

except that isn't true. You can get roll BS'd, poise BS'd, parried, dead angled, inflicted with bleeding, and you need to constantly manage stamina to make sure you aren't going to get guard broken by a combustion or something.
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>>125682023
Tried making Julius Belmont
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>>125704048
I mean like the same in terms of their hierarchy or whatever, not literally the same.
Like is it stated somewhere that the moon presence is the strongest great one? Why dont you transcend humanity from killing rom or ebrietas
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>>125704172
yes
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>>125704172
it sure is annoying as fuck to get popped with a bone ash'd evelyn if it encourages you to play that
reiter's pretty fun and few people use it
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>>125703847
As I said, learn to enjoy your Hollow Soldier Waistcloth, that's the most fashion you'll ever get in DaS.
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>>125704087
no there was an anon here a few threads ago that was struggling for circles
didn't know if you were him again or not
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>>125704172
Yes
Most people get more str than me for the biggest guns.
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>>125704151

reddit browsing angryafro watcher confirmed, fuck off lad
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>>125704151
what do you think is meant by 'fashion souls'? And when people say 'I dress for fashion'?
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>>125704172
STR/BLT is massively strong.
Problem is, both the STR and the BLT aspect of the Bloodletter are great, and you'll be wishing you were 50/50.

Reiter on STR though, I dunno, probably not. Anyone tried it with a heavy abyssal?
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>>125704232
>roll bs'd
maybe with a lot of lag

>poise bs'd
If you time your pokes correctly (which is what you should be doin anyway?) you wont be getting bs'd at all

>dead angled
roll

>inflicted with bleeding
parry

>need to constantly manage stamina to make sure you aren't going to get guard broken by a combustion or something.
black knight shield
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>>125704169
I did it for the Bloodletter, I also got a Triangle shaped one with Blood Atk up 29% and attack vs Beasts down 11%

Right now I am using them on the Bow tho, and it feels worth it because it destroys Defiled Amygdala even faster
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>>125702039
She reminds me of the doll
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>>125704251
Pretty good, got sliders? Julius is my favorite Castlevania character.
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>>125704542
I think that people that do that also use MLGS with Havel's Greatshield.

>>125704542
Even in PvE the game itself doesn't really allow for it. Midrolling is just unpleasant.
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>>125704087
>>125703897
Is there a way to farm blood atk gems in Ihyll?
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>>125704614
I don't really like 14/15/50.

I prefer 28/12/50 or 10/25/50. I can't stand being limited to never using the other aspect of a moveset. The limited moveset and hours of extra farming for a %15 increase doesn't seem worth it to me.
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>casts a cone of mild tripping
>casts a large sphere of mild tripping
>neither do anything or combo or can even be dodged through
>screams hard enough to slow the game down

Why are these guys so weird?
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>>125704883
Not him but I have 14/25/40. Tricked Bloodletter is just too good to not invest those extra 4 levels.
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>>125704976
I always figured the mild tripping move was supposed to open you up for other enemies to hit you.

Scream of bad framerate is a mystery, though.
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>>125704838
Yeah there's a glyph in the spreadsheet. I wouldn't bother though. The run to the Watcher is fucking annoying.
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>>125704796
Doesn't matter what you think to midrolling, it's an option. People that dress for fashion in Souls forgo any sort of advantage any set offers and prioritize aesthetics
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>>125704976
The blue sphere shit exists to open your anus for the second snatcher bearing down on your ass.
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>>125704994
I'd rather use bowblade. I'm not too big a fan of bloodletter anyway. My favorite attacks with it are the untrick -> tricked L1 attack and the huge hyper armor on the AOE.
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>>125705079
>>125704976
sackmen are funny
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Jesus, the recommended level for Hunter's Nightmare is 80 with +9 weapons
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>>125703937

It is, but he is clearly suffering. Have you not heard him sleeptalking? He begs for Laurence to help him, but Laurence is long gone. Also, there's the whole thing he had with Maria. He loved her, but wasn't able to get himself to confess to her. (Then she became the guardian of the Fishing Hamlet, further severing their ties.) Thus, he created a doll in her image, but it wasn't the same. His life is suffering, anon.

They are not all the same. Each one has a will of its own, and different ways of achieving the same goal: To produce a healthy progeny. Besides, it seems the cords are required for you to be able to transcend, and you can only consume three of them after you kill the final boss, Mergo's Wet Nurse.

The revival of Mergo is what the School of Mensis was trying so hard to accomplish. Mergo is Yharnam's child, but he, too, died like all the other children of the Great Ones and lived on as a kind of formless entity like Oedon. Mensis wanted to give Mergo a physical manifestation. I think The One Reborn and the giant, rotten brain in Mensis are two failed attempts at giving Mergo a body. I guess Mensis sorta assumed that they'd be able to transcend by managing to do this. I'm not quite sure.

I don't really know the exact reason, but I believe the cord obtained from the Abandoned Workshop states that all children of the Great Ones are, for some reason, destined to die. That's why they go through such great lengths to try and successfully produce a healthy offspring. It's not actually touched upon whether or not the Great Ones actually NEED children, therefore we can only assume that it's simply within their nature to reproduce.
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>>125704976
Because they're slow in their first form and only power up when damaged, the tactic when they appear alongside other enemies is to simply move the fight aware from the sackman or behind it and kill everything else first. They have ranged disruption attacks so that they can continue to be relevant if you do that.
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>>125704702
Give me a sec.
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Str/Blt or Skl/Blt?
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>>125705259
That's why I'm a big fan of bloodborne making armor stats take a back seat to fashion.

I recall reading somewhere that armor upgrading at all was an after thought for DaS1
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Anyone wanna help with defiled amygdala? ringing near the boss door, password is bbg47
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>>125704838
Root Chalice or Story Chalice? If Root Chalice there should be a glyph in the OP.

>>125704883
My Build is messed up anyway, I was going Skill/Blt but leveled too high I think. I only use it for random Invasions and coop now. I made another Strength/Blt Build where I'm going to use both, the one handed and the two handed Mode.
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>>125705350
show people this when they say BB has bad hitboxes
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>>125704796
not him, but midrolling has some of the strongest builds in the game

the mobility is good enough to dodge while having enough equipload for some of the highest defense in the game WITH heavy weapons that just fuck poise
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>>125705352
For NG or NG+?
I could understand for NG+ but for NG? I doubt you'll need to upgrade your main weapon that much unless you want to breeze trough most of the DLC
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>>125705197
>run
What? You can just savescum in front of the boss fog.
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>>125705504
Until you get chainstabbed and can't escape because you're midrolling.
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I see way fewer chikage users nowadays. seems like they all went with the rakuyo.
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>>125705449

Do you like cannons? Do you like the Gatling Gun? Do you want to wield a weapon even more edgier than the Chikage? Then go for STR/BLT.

Do you like bows? Do you realize the superior might of fancy nippon steeru and the art of unzipping? Do you want more visceral damage? Then go with SKL/BLT.
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>>125705605
A Watcher boss for Blood attack up gems and off-shapes? We're not talking about a boss.
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>>125705605
For Bloodtinge Gems you farm Shotgun Watchers, which are regular Enemies so save-scumming doesn't really work.
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>>125705689
Good, I just mash L2 when I get hit and get a parry almost every time.

It's pretty hilarious actually.
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>>125705456
searching with SRRC
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>>125705615
you have so much defense you can end the chain by not moving at all so there is no backstab hitbox

you just end up freely tanking a hit

midrollers have the easiest time dealing with chains, especially if they're using something with little AR like a chaos rapier
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>>125705371
>I think The One Reborn and the giant, rotten brain in Mensis are two failed attempts at giving Mergo a body
Huh, never thought about that. If you think of it like that, maybe they could have been 2 parts of a bigger being. Possibly they were trying to make a great one, since Mother Brain provides the frenzy effect like other great ones and TOR looks kinda shaped like Eribetas
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>>125705875
The Brain is a Great One.
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>>125705342
>rather
You can effectively use the bow with 25 skl and 40 blt, what are you talking about? 4 str levels won't change that.
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So it would appear that something has gone wrong with my Great Isz chalice dungeon. I cleared floor one and opened the door to the boss. I returned to the dream to spend my echos and none of my altars have the Isz chalice in them

What the fuck happened?
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>>125705875
>>125705941

Yeah, I went back and read up on the Living String. The brain itself is a Great One that Mensis came into contact with. Thing is, it was basically a vegetable, and therefore useless to them outside of being their personal Eye of Sauron it seems.

Still, The One Reborn could have been an attempt at giving Mergo a body. I'm not quite sure, to be honest. Either way, Mensis fails in the end.
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>>125706001
except there are only 2 weapon slots and I don't like limited what part of a moveset I can or cannot use.

I'd just personally rather have two builds just like I'd rather personally not dip below 50 blt.
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>>125706169
The One Reborn being a body for Mergo is a pretty common theory. It certainly explains the presence of Pthumerians in the boss arena and Yahar'gul in general.
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The real final boss of Bloodborne is trying to roll into all the small jars at Cathedral Ward lamp, without breaking any of the tall ones.
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>>125705875
>Mensis fails in the end
Yea but they got some cool headware. So I'd take that as a win. Also, what the fuck is the head cage for?
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>helping cutie3.14s hoonters at laurence

They are all so grateful

It's so kawaii
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>>125705504
>midrolling has some of the strongest builds in the game
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>125706420
>try to help with Laurence
>die
>start ringing at another boss
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>>125705504
you should only midroll with a turtle + havels greatshield or a wall to hide behind
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>>125705772
>>125705802
Right, you can do it anyway, though, you have to kill the nearby enemies only once.
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>>125706372

The description says that it was basically a weird-ass antenna that was believed to allow better communication with the Great Ones.
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>>125706656
It would be by far be faster just to run to it every time.
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>>125706476
I'm not wrong. I would know. I've invested 2k hours into the game and spent most of my time on 32 poise FaP + free ringslot flippers.

The sheer defense, poise, AR and stun capability of a midroller, while still having a decent amount of mobility, stamina regeneration and iframes makes it very much viable and scary with the right kind of build and playstyle.

A midroller essentially always wins in any trade, ever.
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offshape bloodgem farming is the biggest fucking joke ever


after around 600-700 hunter isz shotgun watcher kills i got around 8 offshapes

the only "usable" one is a 29,3% blood attack up kin curse waning one

EVER SINGLE 30%+ GEM IVE RECEIVED HAS ATTACK DOWN OR HP DEPLETES CURSE

THE ONLY MAX LEVEL GEM IVE GOTTEN WITH A GOOD CURSE WAS A FUCKING WANING ONE WITH BLOODTINGE SCALING

fucking kill me i´m seriously thinking about just deleting my tinge char
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>was planning on saving my free trial until this weekend to join the FC
>accidentally hit the trial button while checking PS+ prices and activate it now
Fuck. Anybody need help with something around level 80?
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>>125706283
You can still add 4 str levels no matter what your build is.
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>>125706420
Shitter enabler.
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>>125706654
a midroller has the ability to dodge the horribly damaging things that havels could block, so you only really need heater

I would only use havels and play close to a wall on a fatroller
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>>125705831
are you ringing?
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>>125706870
>needing offshape tinge gems
A pair of 27s and a 31 is fine for the chikage/bowblade, even the bloodletter is strong with just 3 27s, don't be so autistic senpai
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>try to make Vlad Tepes
>end up with a pinhead not the cool Hellraiser version either
there goes that idea
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>>125707108
yup, still searching
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>>125706852
I don't see how anyone could say all that with a straight face.
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>>125706914
for no reason, yeah

I'm not going to waste my time using bloodletter on a 25/50 skl/blt
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So are the beast claws all thrust damage? Would they benefit more from thrust gems?
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What is the lore relevance/background of the unseen village

Why do the chime maidens bring OoK back?
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>>125706870
If you delete it all your effort would go to waste Anon. Take a Break, do something enjoyable, maybe try to do some coop or stop playing for a while. You'll get a good one eventually or you can just use normal 27.2%
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>>125707229
Your loss.
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>>125705689
It's sad, but its because poor latency and it gets outtraded by pizza cutter 500 hp hits with phantom range
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>>125706870
you don't need the extra power. 27.2% is enough

let it go, anon. Not for me, for you.
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>>125705689
I'm a katanafag so I still use it.

I like Bloodtinge builds in general. Guns are cool, even if I am a faggot..
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>>125704702
>>125704702
>>125704702
Here ya go. Let me know if I missed anything.

http://imgur.com/a/W2hyg
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>>125707238
>What is the lore relevance/background of the unseen village
It's unseen because it's hosting the ritual hidden by the Rom, the Byrgenwerth spider mentioned in the note before Cathedral Ward.

>Why do the chime maidens bring OoK back?
Well they are Pthumerian and, as was explained above a bit, a popular theory about the One Reborn is that it is a body for Mergo to inhabit. Mergo being the dead child of the Pthumerian Queen Yharnam, of course. Notice how the area immediately after Yahar'gul is a Nightmare built up around dead Mergo.
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>>125706137
I don't know but the same thing happened to me. Except with defiled after I beat hotdog
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>>125707617
I do too, but I still feel gimped compared to pizza cutter/saif-san
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>>125707658
Where can I read this theory about the one reborn being mergo or whatever
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>>125702993
>you lose 2.2% damage but you can get great secondaries instead of bad ones
could you possibly post a screen of your gems so I know which secondaries to look out for?
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I just realized that Micolash doesn't know that Kos/Kosm is dead does he, why else would he be calling for her?
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>>125706870
Lad, I know how you feel. Three 27.2% gems are already fucking ace for everything the game has to offer. Be happy with that. Maybe one day you'll get a 31.5% gem for BLT, and do an extra 30 points of damage. It's not worth it m8. Let go.
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>>125707219
network set to worldwide? not space in the password?
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>>125707645
Thanks very much anon!
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>>125705371
Wow, thanks anon. That actually really helped
I feel like I gained some insight to the game
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About to start loran chalice. Anyone wants to join? I'm wanna farm top gems as fast as possible. BL60 pass is bastard
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How the fuck do I install Old Hunters?
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>>125708214
You can still summon ebby's tentacles after she's dead
Mergo was also summoned by the school of mensis even though he was stillborn
Rom herself seems to have received ascension from Kos, after her body washed ashore in the fishing hamlet.
Their physical form is gone but they seem to still exist somewhere out there in the cosmos.
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>>125708528
pour warm soapy water into ps4 and benis
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>>125708528
You press buy, then install on the ps store
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>>125692108
if Benjie goes I go too
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>>125708528
Break the Ritual Secret and seek the Nightmare Newborn.
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>>125708426
Sure. Where do I ring? Chamber of the seal lamp?
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>people still dont know 50str/16 tinge blunt gem bloodletter with gatling gun side is the strongest build in the game

shakingmyheadtobehonestfamily
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>>125708861
So you only use untricked Bloodletter? Seems like garbage.
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>>125707219
switching to passwordless searching anon, thanks for trying
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/bbg/ I'm finally going to beat the story.

Is there an order I should go through the endings in? I assume I can do the other ones in NG+.

Which one's canon?
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>>125708861
>untricked bloodletter
brador doesn't approve of this message.
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>just started ng+ at bl 90

come invade me fgts, im doing sinister
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>>125708143
I dunno. I've seen it countless times in these threads and if you google it you'll probably find something.

Also, not Mergo. A body for Mergo. You kill Mergo in the Nightmare, though whether or not he's permanently dead is a matter of mystery.
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>>125709128
come to my hamlet and we can talk
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>>125708373

You're welcome. I was wrong about the brain, though. That thing's a Great One, too, although it's still pretty much a vegetable.

>>125708564

Yeah, it seems that even if their physical form dies, they are still able to live on elsewhere in the universe and are capable of producing some sort of influence in the human world.

>>125709118

Nah, although the "secret" ending can be considered the most fruitful.
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>>125708858
First laamp
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>>125708984
with double blunt gems and an abyssal str gem my r1´s hit for 700-750 damage and are almost as fast as the saws

also people cant heal because of gatling
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How do I search with password as a cooperator?
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Are there any guides on non depth 5 farming to kinda build up your gems before you take on depth 5 farming aside from lol winter lanturn farming?

Like are there any 15-18% radical gems that drop in lower and central pthumeru that can be farmed fairly early basically right after you beat bsb?
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>>125709420
My Loran turned into a defiled for some reason and I don't have the spare ritual blood to remake it. I'll try with SRRC
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>>125709505
lower pthumeru layer 1, the watchers there drop 16-18% tempering hems, at least +19% thrust/blunt gems
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>>125709426
Are you retarded? Not every visual shot of the gatling gun deals damage, they can easily heal.
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i need to poo badly.
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>>125704251
>>125704702
>>125707645
>Julius

Sure is amazing fucking tastes in this thread.
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>>125709487
Don't you just set it up the same way as a host then use the small bell?
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>>125709640
try the basic glyph for loran instead of remaking it

>>125709487
options > network > put in the same password >ring small resonant
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Damian or Gremia?
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>>125709852
Go poo homie
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>>125709852
I am right now lol
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NEW THREAD WHEN?
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>helping people with ludwig
>phase 2 about to start but "prey slaughtered" appears just before cutscene
>cutscene ends ludwig just standing there gets hit once and dies

What the hell actually causes this?
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>>125710328
2 cooperators
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What stats should I prioritise on a BL43 twink? What weapons/builds even work at that level?

I feel I owe it to myself to try low level twink bullshit at least once in this game just for a change of pace.
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>>125710503
vitality
get base requirements for weapons
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>>125710328
I've noticed a lot of glitches I never noticed before

I got summoned for mergos wet nurse and the game got stuck, the beckoner was running in place, the other cooperater was stuck r1-ing mergos wet nurse and I could move and hit her

After like 5 minutes of me running around I lost connection
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>>125709640
Anon?
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>>125710503
Get the minimum wep required stats then put rest in hp
Gems to make up damage
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>>125710328
I've heard some say it has to do with another event happening right when he enters the second phase like a co-operator or the beckoner dying.

>>125710454
I've beaten him with a full party lots and I've never seen it happen. So it's either something else entirely or some combination of things.
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>>125709961
>try the basic glyph for loran
Which is?
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>>125710503
>>125710570
das it, lvl vit, wep dam comes from gems, min reqs only
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>>125708214
Great Ones never truly die.
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>>125708564
>Rom herself seems to have received ascension from Kos
Didn't remember that, which means that Mico might have known about Kos being dead.
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>>125708564
it's a basic tenant of lovecraftian style horrors.
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>>125704356
>>125704539
How would I go about surviving/leveling early game without taking 30min to kill a boss?
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Does the pizza saw deal thrust damage?
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>>125711213
upgrade weapon
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>>125711213
your basic stats don't really do all that much to help your damage, especially not in the early game.

It's all about your weapon, its upgrades, and gems.

for example, my blt/skl character just used the fucking hunters axe until I got my weapons.
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>>125711213
+6 hunters axe / pizza cutter with %18 gems
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>>125711283
Yeah but for a BLT/STR build.
Should i use blunderbuss or pistol?
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>>125711213
Jyst don't overinvest in BLT early. get that 25-30 STR right off and use a good str weapon with the best upgrades you can get. You can have a +8 weapon before the Blood Moon if you loot everything the game gives you.
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Someone get the thread
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Its really up to what you prefer, I like the blunderbuss do to its stagger though
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>>125711556
you can have a +10 before the blood moon now
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>>125685601
Keep your distance until he does the attacks with its head and arms on the floor and back up, don't get greedy. When he rips off his arms, you can then cheese him by staying behind and hitting the legs and tail, might take a while at low BL or without good gems but you can also take advantage of the jump attack and cheese it, making sure you stay behind and away of the leg he is stomping with
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>>125711213
24vit 25bt, base everything else on professional starting class.

cheese simon for his bowblade as early as possible, rush mensis for the 19% gems and +10 weapon.

cheese your way up to defiled with bow, watchdog and amy are ezpz with it, then do isz instead of loran, cheese all the isz bosses (even ebrie is piss with it) and farm 5pwujscd for a triangle 27% gem.

Move onto Ihyll and either git gud or ask for help with HMPH HMPH and Headless BLB.

ez pz
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>>125711478
>>125711631
Either works. Blunderbuss is well matched to the mace moveset though and it has stupid damage if you gem it right.


>>125711739
Stuff that's after Ludwig is basically not worth mentioning. You're right though.
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>>125710570
>>125710652
>>125710730
>base requirements
>rest in vit
>gems gems gems

Simple enough. Thanks, anons.
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>>125711478
blunderbuss is 100x more fun, you'd have to ditch pistol for evelyn anyway

start game
get hunters axe to +3
kill BSB
go to hemwick and get axe to +6
kill vicar
level str until its 28
clear first 2 depths of pthumeru
get to depth 3 pthumeru and farm layer 1 watchers
you now have %18 gems
start pumping blt
clear the dlc with the hunters axe and get bloodletter
bring it to +9
go a little further in the dlc
get the blood rock and get it to +10

clear the rest of the game with a +10 bloodletter with %18 gems
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>>125711804
>rush mensis for the 19% gems
you can just kill lower pthumeru layer 1 watchers for 18%. literally no reason to rush end game
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How many daggers does it take to poison Simon? Is there a better way of cheesing him? Is luring BSB to him actually viable? I just want to get the Bowblade right after killing Amelia if possible and I'd rather not have to waste all my time/patience/vials doing it.
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>800 posts
>Page 10
>no new thread link

IS THE DREAM COMING TO AN END?
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>>125711921
Well I usually just do it anyway to unlock the PVP areas, quick chunks and rock and some runes.
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>>125712027
No, we shall not abandon the dream!
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>>125712024
>Is there a better way of cheesing him?

You can smack him through the shortcut door with any weapon with decent reach, then jsut run past him whenever his pathfinding actually lets him walk through the door to get at you rather than firing arrows at it like a tard.
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Why is there two grand cathedrals in the hunter's nightmare? Is it just "because it's a dream", or is there actually a second cathedral called the 'astral tower'?
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>>125711283
>>125711406
>>125711415
>>125711478
>>125711556
>>125711804
>>125711838
>>125711884

Thanks for all the (you)s guys
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What element is Orphan weak to?
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>>125712249
poor level design
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>>125712130
noone can catch us, noone can stop us now
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>>125712249
It's a fucking nightmare dude

You ever had a nightmare? Did shit make sense?
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>>125712249
There aren't.

There's the Cathredral Ward. Grand Cathedral and Old Yharnam Cathedral. That's what Nightmare Church is. The way to Old Yharnam.
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AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NEW THREAD PLS.
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>people that some fag hammer girl in ludwig fight
Ima start blanking anytime i see that cunt summoned, her only purpose is to raise ludwigs health bar.
>Hugs ludwig the entire fight
>Cant even survive the first phase
>Just makes second phase harder do to his higher hp

Its bad enough trying the carry the host but having to carry an npc is just plan awful
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>>125712428
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>>125712303
form 2 is kin, that's all i know
he seems to have pretty even defenses
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>>125712454
>people actually summon henry over valtr.
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Is the general rule to have only 1 Scaling Increase gem on a weapon, and anymore will cause a decrease in damage?
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>there will never be a new thread
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NEW THREAD

>>125712602
>>125712602
>>125712602
>>125712602
>>125712602
>>125712602
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>>125712420
I don't recall there being two buildings with the same shape.
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>>125712994
Oh I see. I'm less sure about that. I know real Yharnam has two astral clocktowers Most people forget Djura's gun is sitting on one.... but I'm not sure about the larger structure behind it.
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>>125686928
wow really man? I would've never guessed, should let Vaati know
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