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Living Dead Edition

When asking for help, trading, or applying to any guild, post your character name and specify which server you're on.

>To join a guild
Open the guild window and search for the guild (You must search 'no_fun' or 'pawnshop' for the NA guilds)
>Apply for guild membership
Post in the general with your name and your server to let us know you have applied, you may also whisper a guild admin to speed up this process.
(We do this so that we know you're from /vg/ and not some filthy fucking pub.)

>Guilds
EAST: No Fun Allowed, ch. 123 | http://steamcommunity.com/groups/thisisntmonsterhunter
WEST: Pawnshop Ghosts, ch. 179 | http://steamcommunity.com/groups/wvgv
AUS: TeaChasers | http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vindictusAU
EU: FilthyCasuals, ch. 130

FAQ: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1co4GIMfjHB_-EUrOdfbsGQDKA54pLqVwJjzmoi7h4gA/edit
Item comparison tool: http://vindictusmanual.com/Compare/#last
Free NX Guide: http://pastebin.com/NtBep0VE

Previous Dead: >>125388489
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>already ded
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Thank fuck for a non retarded OP
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why all the lvl90 crossguns look overly-edgy cuboid shit

>lugh CG even has a cap
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>the only good looking lvl90 scythe is lugh scythe
>still no lugh
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bumping with random evie
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Haven't played in awhile.

Is everything still awful?
Is Nexon still shit?
Any new second weapons announced?
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>>125683202
Yes
Yes (did you really expect this to change?)
No

Btw,Hagie is very fun,best girl.
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>>125683405
Oh well.
Guess I'll ask again in a few months.
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>>125683646
It won't change
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>>125683202
game is ok, nexon is still shit

only rumors about second weapons, as kr players kept demanding them in a way that now there are words about devs gonna make them for hurk/lynn at least
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>>125683202
Depending on when you last played game has gotten a little better or a lot better with grind.

Nexon is still shit as usual

And like >>125683989 said we only have rumors for lynn and hurk.
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>>125683941
>that image
>that filename
Dear god i can't stop laughing,best thing i saw all week.Thanks anon,bless you.
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YEEEEEHAAAAAW!
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>>125683202
>new second weapons
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>>125686395
I wanna fuck those trolls. Those sirens too.

S2E1 was a non stop boner for me.
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>>125688579
>Let's get out of here before i get married to her
Milo's a huge faggot for not wanting to tap that siren tenthole.
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>>125688579
them hot bodies
yeah, why not

and not that any of the player char females have better feet
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>>125694198
You just made me realize that the trolls feet are better modeled than the player models.
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I heard Sword Lann is good now. What the fuck happened
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>>125696417
You're too late goyim, they're nerfing him with the next balance update.
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>>125697485
Nice, I don't have to redownload the game. I heard Hurk was nerfed too by virtue of unparryable attacks.
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>>125698670
Reminds me of when "reloading" your quickslot items during battles was a thing. Fastest campfire and feather title progress ever.
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To the guy that was giving the seal maker, thx, I'm at work atm and I'll get on vindictus in about... 12 hours or less..
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rip
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>>125701309
>yes, doctor, the birth giving was successful, but neither the mother nor the child have survived it
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As CG Kai, is there any other reliable way than nuke to get off that latching tents at kraken?
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>>125702640
Hand grenade has high knockdown values, perhaps that.
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>>125701309
>hands sticking out from the ground
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>>125690557
>wanting to tap that siren tenthole

t-thanks, no ;_;
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>>125703195
seems good idea

nuke even seems unreliable, i can just imagine you get constantly flinched while you trying to shoot it off
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>>125704770
>>125704770
also just watched some videos,

not sure if meant to be a tutorial, but the guy indeed got hit as trying to load it
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>>125703827
Imagine how slick and slippery it would be
as long as they dont have a beak like an actual octopus
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>>125703827
I was talking about that qt siren that wanted Milo's D(estiny stone).

Monarch seems more into pegging desu.
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>Hagie came out
>Rosecrush came out or is on the test server whatever for Korea

Things sure do happen when these threads are dead.

And whens customizable HUD for NA/EU
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>>125711539
That should be pretty soon, I believe they got that before Hagie, so I'm guessing it's going to be in January with S3E4.
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Anyone know what kind of rotation I should be doing on staff evie to maximize deeps? I just got back to playing her after 3 years and I'm really overwhelmed by all these spells.
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>>125716089
Use fire whenever u can. Before a raid starts stack up t3 fire t4 fire and t4 lightning . use rage conducted whenever cooldown is off
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>>125707520
>>125707067
nah, those jungle trolls are enough

them octopusses are now another board's subject
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alive
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>>125726651
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>>125727208
Wait what? Which quest is that from?
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>>125727986
Halloween nightmare candy, makes all the npc's give dialogue about their past.
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is it too late
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>Hagie can't wear Scarlet Witch

Dead game

I just want to use the hat again ;_;
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anyone on east want to trade seals?
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stronksuit ebie
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>>125735812
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Armathread?
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>>125680670

>Haven't really liked the past few armor sets
>See this

Oh desire
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>>125737397
that's a costume set, not armor
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>>125738413

MOTHERFUCKERS.
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>>125738413
also, it's from rng box
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http://heroes.nexon.com/news/update/view?postno=686&nxid=15&nxid=15&nxid=15

Anyone that can translate moon-ish runes? Here are the patch notes for today's premiere server update.
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>>125736951
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>>125740601
went through with google translator, its mostly the same as in the NA forums translation thread

but there are some changes/updates other than char revamp stuff, would be good to see a proper translation of those
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So how's hagie
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>>125741796
gay but fun
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>>125741796
I couldn't stay interested, dropped him at level 40.
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>>125700542
>12 hour
So not quite 12 hours yet but are you on now?
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>>125736951
ayy
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Zugefroren for NFA pls
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Ded t hread
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Is Hurk still top tier? What characters are on the same level as him?
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>Every year we either get an actual content date or good events like Golden Time

>This year we get Haggie, a character no one but faggots and c.ucks wanted
>And a login event where the only thing useful is the +11 rune that will probably fail anyways

I have the feeling Vindictus won't survive much longer in NA/EU.
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>>125762232
What are you smoking? We always got one character in the summer and another around christmas. The past two years it's been hurk and vella, this year it's hagie.
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>>125761790
Sword lann is top tier for now till his nerf gets patched into NA
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>>125762440
I'm not sure why you're being redundant.
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D E L I A
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>>125677782
What's the fastest way to level while keeping up with gear?
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>>125762232
Whats the matter goy, you don't like the Christmas boxes that don't even drop in the newest dungeons?
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>>125773712
>fastest way to level
Story missions
>while keeping up with gear
Doesn't matter until 60
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>>125773712
About gear,what >>125775308 said.

Just wait in Malina and join those quest missions,there are lots of them these days with all those Hagies running around.
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If you replace a purple main mat on a weapon with a better purple one, does the enhance level reset like upgrading to an orange would?
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>>125773712
S1 main+side quests

then S2 main quests, these you can do multiple times if you join others later too
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>>125781815
Pretty sure it resets regardless of what you replace the main feather with.
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>>125761790
depending on battle
Scythe/Staff, Hammer/Sword Fio, Arisha are tops too

also CG Kai and Chain Vella are still good
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Haven't played in a while, but I just saw some Korean video in my recommended section on youtube, and it had some bitch 2 handing a long sword.

What's this about?
Another new character?
She looked kinda cool actually
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don't you die on me
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>>125785534
>fiona in top tier
when did this happen?
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How good is Vindictus?
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>>125788761
since enhanced counter

also, hammer revamp(s)
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>>125788761
It hasn't happened yet, he's just a shitposting wheelchair.

Currently it's Sword Lann / Scythe/Staff Evie / Hurk in top tier. Fiona is somewhere below Spears and Arisha.

With the upcoming balance changes she might be equalized to top with everyone else though, since Devcat are just throwing random shit onto her skillset so she's more engaging to play.
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>>125790821
It's a decent game with great combat but the devs don't know what they want to do with the game. There's also some pretty top tier Jewing with some in game mechanics.
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kek, now with sylas out, lann looks so old
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>>125791135
Even solo and on aggressive bosses (best case scenario for enhanced counter) Sword Fiona still lagged behind Sword Lann and Evie on kill times. It isn't significant, but that combined with subpar party DPS doesn't add up to top tier.

Hammer still lacks a bit as well, with worse solo times than Sword but better party DPS that isn't on par with top tiers outside of stimmed/trans sandbags.

After the rebalances she's probably up there by virtue of nearly everyone above her getting nerfed.

>>125793362
I don't think it's particularly random, being able to chain into normals is a notable speed increase. Deflection changes make it more spammable and even better for Hammers. Focal not being infinitely spammed is a loss that'll make Longsword more boring though.
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>>125742435
>gay buttfun
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>>125794986
Only issue I have with deflect (in that I just don't like it), is if you deflect during butterfly swing you need to do at least two more swings to deflect again, or after you reach the 90 degree mark on a Stima you can't deflect. Which apparently they're changing(?)
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>>125799809
You can deflect multiple times within the same smash. There was a video of someone doing L Deflect L Deflect L Deflect all while staying on the same normal. That should fix the Butterfly issue.

You can also double Stigma if you deflect after connection (like Amaranth).
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>>125794986
>tfw wheelchair forever ;_;
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>>125800117
>double stigma
This is going to change how I play, on bosses I'm not too familiar with I'll stick with butterfly swings when I could be getting off stigmas because I can deflect out of it. Now it seems i'll be using stigma far more often now that I won't be punished for it whenever I get it off too late.
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Hagie is more fun than Arisha desu
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>>125788530
don't you even dare
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>>125807370
fanarts, you say?
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>>125802614
It's okay since everyone is becoming wheelchair except Queen Scythie :3
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A R I S H A
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>>125813000
When everyone's a wheelchair no one's a wheelchair.
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Would anyone know how much aspd Hagie wold need to be able to proc spirit rend just from mashing? Or if it's even possible? Getting tired of having to wait for the blue flash.
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What's the highest base speed you can get on a character without fucking over your characters damage?
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>>125813000
trips confirm
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How do I stack Phantom Force as Hagie? I'm only getting to level 2 most of the time.
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Ded
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>>125826798
Get the daggers/shards around you, then use a smash to fire them off.
I'd suggest building them up and just doing the dodge smash up until level 5, since it takes a long time to build up but not too much effort to maintain it.
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>>125826854

Ye lynn has been ded for awhile
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>>125822636
In what situation would higher speed ever lower your damage?
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>>125830705
He means the highest speed you can get before you completely nuke your other stats, specifically balance.
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>>125822636
I believe I've seen a Scythie at ~80 speed and ~85 bal, near the 23k mark
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Is this game still an extremely grindy grindaroo hell?
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>>125834971
The grind has been significantly lessened.

Only real grind now is enchanting and if you want a +15 weapon.
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>>125835381
Since HURK release, what are the most important changes?

Alternatively, when was that more or less?
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>>125835495
eh seal shop I guess is one of the biggest along with level 90 gear now

Both have made gearing up a breeze compared to how it was before.

Seal shop has level 80 rare mats for 22 seals or something now and they also bumped the daily seal limit to 20 a day instead of the old 12

Level 90 gear is easy to make because you piece it together out of relatively common drops but you need to grind to get really good ones

Story quests have been revamped so you don't have to grind for levels till around 80+ as long as you do the side quests as well and once you're 80 you'll probably level just by raiding and other things anyway.
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>>125835495
Reduced map count for S1 dungeons down to 2-3 max

Better distribution of story exp so grinding is no longer necessary

Removed many redundant quests that required running the same map multiple times

Can now receive multiple story items per run opposed to one as before
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>tfw you can't find a way to get your account back
;-;
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>>125837048
have you tried account recovery at support?
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>>125837320
I mean because I can't verify it, I forgot the info.
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What's the quality range for accesories that drop from s2 treasure chests like the 70/80 rings and belts? I'm seeings some 3 stars ODMs on the marketplace, can they be 4 or 5 stars?
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>>125838574
they only drop as 2* but people use quality coupons to up them up that they got from events
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>>125837368
ah yeah, nobody wants to give real info to some random company like nexon, then turns out it could be needed
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alive
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qtst grill
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>>125842061
>>125842339

She looks awful desu
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>>125842398
rude
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>>125842061
I detect poor model topology at the lip corners.
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Is Shield Bash even worth the space on my hotkey bar?
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>>125846396
Emergency iframes, but it's mostly irrelevant with the new roll distance buffs. Pretty much everything now falls under easily rolled or needing Shield Charge for extended iframes.

It's situationally useful for breakoffs and KD (Bark warding). Sword is still generally better off saving for Focal spam and Hammer for SH.
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>>125846396
it's good for dodging grabs like Siglint's

but not sure what's better for those, Shield Bash or Deflect

Also, Shield Bash will have reduced sp use (125) and maybe something else in the upcoming revamps

Would be good if they added more BO ability to it
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>get back on after several months
>bored in about few hours

help
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>>125848915
make new char
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>>125848915
That was my feeling too. I got a newfound love of soloing bosses though, even if it's just the easy 60 raids. Reminds me of when I first started playing this 5 years ago, I would fight bosses because they were fun, not because they gave gold or good drops.
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Is the crit cap in S3 really 130? How am I supposed to reach crit cap when I only have 98?
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>>125853056
only with the new s2 scrolls + lvl90 weapn (around +10 more crit than lvl80s)
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>tfw Tieve is more emotive than Arisha
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>>125851501
Soloing is what kept me with the game. Then S2 hit and the biggest pile of unsoloable pile of shit raids happened and I quit.
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>>125856126
>S2 hit and the biggest pile of unsoloable pile of shit raids

this

bosses and their movesets would be ok and challenging but those fucking party oriented gimmicks..
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>>125857220
All S2 raids can and have been solo'd even that cancerous piece of shit Bark, it just requires you to be much better then the average person and to be decently geared.
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>>125857608
I was talking about on release. Nobody had the gear and classes weren't anywhere close to as powerful at that point in time. I only had a +10 70 which was still really good at that point in time.

Of course now people have soloed it, with +15 80s/90s, damage pots, character buffs out the ass, and even S2 nerfs which I'm not sure if NA has yet. But back then people needed to stack everything in order to even get it done within 60 minutes.

Really the outlier is TD for soloable content. Kraken and Bark are shit shows, Ulchas needs you to either have shitloads of DPS or a non-CD locked flinch. The others were doable but stuff like Jug revolved around stalling ceiling phase every 3 minutes, never fucking up solo chains in Lavasat, or hitting insanely tight flinch windows (depending on class, Shield Charge is a total bitch to use for interrupt) on Cromm.

They just stopped scaling gimmicks to party size, which is why it stopped being fun. It's like if you couldn't break Siglint's stone in solo while going back to S1 tiers of damage.
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>>125858192
I know a 18.5k sword Lann that solo'd S2 way before the sword Lann revamp hit and we both know how shit they were back then.
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>>125857608
>be much better then the average person
only in the sense of those gimmicks, otherwise not
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>>125858192
Also if we're talking on release of S2 okay I'll give you it'd take time to get geared enough but by the time Cromm and shit rolled around everything was already soloable.
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>>125858320
S2 just has really annoying character bias. Jug on Fiona was annoying as shit cause the only way to survive ceiling was to perfectly feather sprint every grab since Shield Dash didn't exist, Bash had too long of a CD and SP cost issues, and Charge was the same.

Post 20-min CD patch, that actually screws over Vella and Evie for flinch required raid solos. Characters without great sandbag DPS can't do Kraken/Bark even post nerf. Stuff like that.

Sword Lann actually never ends up that poorly in terms of that due to very fast F7 flinch and good iframes (and a general lack of charge moves in S2). Only issue would be sandbag DPS but nobody is soloing Kraken or Bark 7080 with 18.5k. Most S2 soloing was already like 60 minute damage potted marathon runs, so not like no deeps mattered as long as your damage values got the kill.

>>125858913
I quit before TD released, so didn't really follow soloing as much come later seasons.
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>>125858764
>Gimmicks
All you need to solo is to dodge properly.

The only bosses that you can't ignore gimmick wise with proper dodging is probably Bark and Kraken.
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>>125859123
yeah. no

thats why are we talk about gimmicks now
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>>125859009
The Lann I know uses 0 damage pots and has clear times of about 20-30 minutes.

Also would you consider pre-revamp staff Evie bad at sandbag because there is a staff who has solo'd bark albeit with a 59 minute or so clear time.

And yeah I'll agree with the character bias thing but I still hold that it was possible, just annoying as shit depending on character.
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>>125859312
Tell me gimmicks you can't ignore by just using proper i-frames then.

Bark, Kraken, Ulchas and Lavasat are all I can really think of.
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>>125859472
Cromm statues.

Also depending on raid, some non-iframe characters can't iframe moves which require it due to CD (Jug). Less of an issue now that they've given more characters mobility options.

>>125859316
Yeah, I probably should have just said annoying as shit to solo instead of unsoloable. I didn't have a good grasp of Staff's pre-revamp damage output as nobody in pugs used her and everyone who I knew that used her quit.

I find Niflheim and Regina more fun to solo than S2, but maybe I just suddenly got good after quitting for a year.
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>>125859472
Bark, Kraken, Ulchas and Lavasat
+ Havan, Enzo, Crom too
+ Jugg and Laki depending on char
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>>125859907
>>125859967
There are solo videos of 70-80 Crom that don't even let him get his statues or clones off but to be fair I think only Hurk can do that and Enzo Giga Bombs can be dodged with iframes by most characters, you can ignore heat by just not getting hit etc etc.

What on Havan isn't ignore-able? he can be flinched out of his sandstorm attack pretty easily, and the rest is just dodging.

I'll give you the Jug and Laki though.

On Niflheim and Regina yeah they're pretty fun to solo and if you can handle that you could probably go back to S2 now and roll everything easy enough too.
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>>125861712
70-80 pre-nerf Crom solo is an instant fail if you let the statues pop. So that's not a gimmick you iframe, but rather one you have to interrupt or else you fail. Any character with a 2 min flinch (Fiona, Lann), Lynn, and Hurk can do it. Prior to the 20 minute hold skill nerf, Vella could do it too.

Pretty sure between 20 minute hold skills and Crom nerf that Evie, Kai, Vella, and Arisha could not solo 7080 Crom without dying.

Gigabomb I'm not sure on the hitbox duration given that I mostly play Fiona, but that has a 2 minute CD anyways so most characters can use their 1k SP skill to go through it. So that's why I didn't bring it up.
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>>125865582
>Prior to the 20 minute hold skill nerf, Vella could do it too.

Couldn't Vella also do it with Heart of Ice Frostbite? Or is the CD on it still too long?
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>>125866048
Frostbite is 3:30 if I remember correctly. Even if you had absurd DPS, you'd need to be able to kill him before 3 summons (including the 8 bar and 5 bar ones) to succeed. I don't think that's possible even with capped stats and a damage pot.
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>>125848915
money farm for more money you won't spend.
Dress up your hooker character and go lean on a post for hours.
Go hunting for little boys to dance naked for you.
If none of these interests you then you're playing the wrong game.
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We now come up with retarded nicknames for the bosses of Vindictus. I'll start:

Bloodlord
Irukul
Klaus - Santa
Titan
Thor
Aghlan - Toilet Flusher
Ingkells
Succubus - Slut
Glas - Angry Chicken
Shakkar
Controlled Black Hammer
Lionotus - Shitty Hitboxes: The Boss
Colru
Sieglind - Pikachu
Beokros - Cirno
Elchulus - Niggulus
Keaghan - Tieves mad boyfriend
Lakiora - Swallowing snake
Kraken
Iset - Slut of the Desert
Havan - Darude
Pantehum
Bark - Rapetrain
Juggernaut
Ulchas
Lavasat
Enzo - Holy shit those random meteors suck
Crom - God of Fun
Succubus Queen - Queen of Sluts
Bloodlord Reborn
Zecallion - Rageing Furry
Regina - Winged Slut
Braha
Ancient Glas
Lugh - Nothing personnel Kid: The Boss
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>>125872981
Reddit: the post
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>>125872981
You - Faggot
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>>125872981
Darude is fantastic but the rest are kinda weak.
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>>125872981
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>>125872981
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>>125878979
>liking twitch memes
You're just as bad
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>Tons of content in the game that I haven't done
>No motivation to do it
>Know that I still enjoy the game because I always have fun redoing season 1 whenever a new character comes out

What's wrong with me
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>>125872981
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>>125879968
>Darude
>Thinking it started on Twitch
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>>125874445
>>125875782
>>125879104
>>125879278
>>125880675
Allright lets stay dead then.
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About Sylas,after his LLLLR am i supposed to charge the punch,do a normal one or not bother at all?
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Is HURK still a broken mess of shit?

Is kai broken now? I want to be 'merican
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>>125887132
In March of 2010 KR was already on episode 4, five months before the closed beta of Vindictus arrived for NA.
By Halloween of the same year, they had already gotten to episode 6 and had their first taste of endgame content, while we were just enjoying playing the new character Evie and running through Ainle.

I find this fascinating for some reason.
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For those of you that don't have a +15, how would it affect you if you had one? Would you be happy? Is it something you've been dreaming about for years? Would you start playing more, or less now that you've achieved something?
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>>125890047
I would probably stop playing this shitty game.
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>>125890047
I tried +15 four times now

Where's my 15 nixon?????? :^)))))
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>>125892297
Forgot to add they all failed :^)))))
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>>125890047
I got a +15 recently due to all the free crap they handed out, felt pretty good to have that off the list of things to do. Novelty lasted for a day.

It was for a completely ungeared alt though, so I ended up having to gear another character. Then I got bored and quit.
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>>125892629
That happened to me too, got +15 swords on my Vella that I don't even play, and I can't even sell them because they're perma bound.
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>2nd password
>mfw I cannot change it for some fucking reason
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>>125894878
Mine has full binds. I just don't feel like selling the first (and probably only) +15 I ever made. It's a total pain to sell and rebuy +15s on top of that.
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I miss mods
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>>125898987
But mods are still around anon
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>>125900405
Are they? Last time I checked it was pretty dead, but that was years ago.
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>>125900729
There are, anon.
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>>125898987
I want to spread my seeds all over those bodies.
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What is the most broken solo class?

is gaiboi sylas any good?
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>>125901756
l-lewd
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>>125903030

That's disgusting
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>Try the chalk colored hair
>front looks fine but the back hair levitates away from the body when not moving

wat
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>>125886029
Anything on this?
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>>125886029
You bother with it if you're grinding up for the title, past that I don't really see a point in the move.
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>>125915914
>past that I don't really see a point in the move.
Well,when i charge it for a second or so it doubles its damage,i can do up to 11k on malina raids and my stats suck (especially balance and crit).But i don't know if that time i spend charging could be used to attack normally or something for better dps.
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>>125910202
th-thanks sylas
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>>125865582
>>125861712
>tfw Fiona Iron Defense negates all those one-hit KO's
get rekt small shield fags +drunk
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>>125886029
I use it for slower big bosses, otherwise it's a fantastic ability to move a huge distance.
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>>125677782
Vindictus general, I need your help! I want to play Karok but tier lists say he's bad. Should I main it anyway or just play that new fuckboy?
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>>125925539
If you think he's fun, play him, holy shit
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>>125925539
Pillar Karok having shit damage hasn't stopped me from playing him for the past 4 years.
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>>125922290
But Iron Defence doesn't save you from Crom. Statues kill you by constantly immobilizing you unless you spend your entire time running laps from statue to statue. Even Iron Defence has a CD, and old pre-nerf statue HP is too high for a single player to destroy in that time window.
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>>125910202
does it have the bald patch in the back when it flow up like the long straight hair?
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>>125925539
His revamp will be out soon, it'll make him top deeps
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>>125927082
Not necessarily a one-hit ko, just a pain in the ass that will most likely cause a failure anyway.
I was meaning more Havan Sandstorm and Jugg's grab mostly. Though with Standing Endurance Enzo's flamethrower just makes you get hit 3 times completely defeating the purpose.
Only issue I have with it's cooldown is that it's decreased with perfect Guards instead of perfect Heavy Standers.
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>>125927545
It pretty much will be a death unless you're almost finished the solo and can push it over the edge in time.

PG has always been better than HS/PHS for stamina efficiency anyways. So it was better to do it when possible. It probably should work with PHS too, but at the same time you need to stretch your stamina further.

I just don't care for ID since the SP cost is too high for how valuable SH is to both weapons on Fiona. For general play you can just eat a death now and then and for solo play you might as well go full autism.

Not like ID existed pre-roll buff which is when it had potential use.

>>125925539
Just play him. Tier lists are all so temporary given that they do character changes every few months. He's going to be top tier with his buff until the rebalance patch (which won't be for a bit). Also even if he's shit tier, you can still do everything with him or you'll just get bored and quit before it matters.
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Where is the tier lists?
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>>125929868
There's no universal one. For the current patch it's around the lines of.

Sword Lann, Both Evies
Hurk, Spear Lann (only on sandbags), Arisha
Both Fionas, XGun Kai, CB Vella
Bow Kai, Lynn, TS Vella, Both Karoks

(I can't slot in Hagie cause I didn't follow what version we got. Probably in that 2nd or 3rd tier)

Revamps push TS Vella and Karok into top tier while CB Vella probably gets pushed up as well. No idea how it'll sit after the KR Rebalance. Evie probably cemented as the only top tier, Hurk, Arisha, Lynn, Fiona in the tier below if what I read was accurate.
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>>125931317
Is spear evie good for solo?
Also hurk is still the retard-proof "charge-shift-charge-shift-slamadunkarama", right?
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>>125931436
Spear Evie?

Spear Lann not really, since sandbags are rare in solo and anything you need to dodge you're weaker than Swords. Scythe Evie needs speed to solo well, and can be pretty hard if you don't have it. Staff is fine too. The main thing is any of those don't actually gain damage from blocking (Hurk, Sword Lann, Fiona, Vella, Karok, etc. all gain DPS in solos), but at least the Evies are strong enough at a base level that they're fine.

Hurk is still just that. You can get into ultimatum cancelling, but base play is still the same.
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>Nerf most of Pillar's additional smashes
>Buff warslam and crushing sweep while removing additional warslam as frames
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Rosecrush will save Vindictus
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>>125936958
I don't think she's slutty enough to bring in that many people.
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>>125937467
I just hope NA gets some new outfitters soon, or at least hairs with multiple colors
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>>125937467
but way more than hagie
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Chain Vella update looking gr8
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>>125932839
>Delia's another fucking princess

That's the second/third one now.
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What does Hagie's red circle thing do?
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>>125940749
I like fallen princesses archetypes.
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>>125941497
Lynn is the only fallen princess though. Evie's got no real backstory other than appearing to have an aristocratic air to her, and Delia is a runaway princess.
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>>125940781
Which one, he has two.

One for lifesteal and the other for damage and stamina regen
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>>125940781
most of the hagies i encountered doesn't seem to know how it works

they just put them in random places without any regard for boss being knocked down or any other timing
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Should I play Vindictus?

Convince me anons.
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>>125943189
Only if you can play the KR version.
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>>125943283
What's the difference?
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>>125943341
Get new content faster.
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>>125943341
Prices for stuff is low enough that you don't need RNGod's grace to make enough money to buy one thing.
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>>125943189
Try it out for the combat. If you don't like the combat, then don't bother with it.
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If they somehow combined the servers for both east and west, would that help the inflation?
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>>125932249
I meant STAFF.
>fuck was I sleepy
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Price check on +12 3* Infinity Twin Swords? I'm on East.
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>>125943189
yes

for the hot grills
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>>125931317
Good god I still remember the time when I couldn't solo fucking BL with Evie. That was 2 years ago
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>mfw just found the AP Shop
Does this thing go away after an event or is it permanent?
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>>125959219
That's been there for about a year now, I think EU just got one too.
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>>125932839
Don't worry anon, they buffed all those smashes again in the final revision of the balance patch but I don't know if it's back to its original damage or not. Warslam got buffed again with more damage and less stam consumption.
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What's coming next after Lugh? Has it really been like 4 months without any new content over in Korealand?
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>>125959818
Delia?
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>>125959818
Karok Revamp, Chatbox revamp, and...thats like all
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>Long ago, Mabinogi Europe compensation
>Decide to try vindictus and be a paid faggot
>Choose Fiona
>Decide to give her a tomboy look
>Actually buy the whole-body inner clothing

I can't be the only one who did this
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>>125963298
No you're LITERALLY the only one
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>>125959818
>>125962618
Kai revamp, Vella revamp, balance update, and some other small things.
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>>125963298
so, there is somebody out there who bought that inner
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Anyone playing on korean server? I need friend
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Can someone explain to me how it's so hard to succeed enchanting with 50% success rate yet they break so easily with only 20% chance?

+pain
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>>125972631
rng in games aren't true rng

but other than this, somehow random is more fucked up or even rigged in vindictus

maybe it's bugged and doesn't even counts the elixirs you add to increase the chance

+it's possible to fail stuff like passion es at 100%, so
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>>125972631
There's a reason why there's a law on Japan/Korea or whatever was the place, that compels chance-based games and situations with fixed chances to release to the public the REAL chances.
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Her face is kinda derpy.

I don't really like it.

Kinda scary and spooky.
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>>125976431
No one does, Anon. She looks like she has downs since her eyes are so far apart.
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>>125979818
fate fags do this is a saber ripoff
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>>125975004
Wasn't that only when real money were involved or something?So only gacha rates would be known.
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>>125976431
nah, she's cute

[
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How much cash have you spent on this game? I've been playing for 3 years and paid maybe $70 for hair, inners, and some rune packages on my characters.

I feel bad about spending that much, but then I remember there's people that spend over $100 a month on this game.
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>>125984237
I used my nonexistant photoshop skills to place her eyes closer together. I think she looks much cuter.
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>>125984237
>>125987292

Now they both look weird to me
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>>125986304
I always wondered if it wasn't for those that spend a lot each month, would the game for U.S/EU still be open?
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>>125987419
I'm pretty sure this game like all other f2p titles only stays afloat because of the cash cows. There are so many people that play the game that only spend $10, or nothing at all.
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>>125987352
this
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How do I de-activate the directed camera ?
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>>125992342
Option/Control tab/Advanced/ right side

there is a bunch of options there, not sure which is it now
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>>125984237
>>125987292
I just hope she's more emotive in the face than Arisha
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>>125993931
more emotive than arisha, that's sure
like any other char
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>>125998869
>>125993931
>write /smile on arisha
>attempt at smile in progress
>smile failed

Yeah, that's arisha


Other than little things like this, i'm okay with her face, and managed to make it look good, compared to ones who leave it at default then complain about her
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>>126004096
>they gave lynn the most disgusting outfit of them all

It still hurts
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>>126004096
>>126004960
Lynn is one step away from ahegaoing desu.

Also,male version when?+shy
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>>126004096
>Fiona spilling out of her bikini
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>>126004096
>arisha with that stupid hair instead of her signature one
everytime
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>>126008853
>implying llama hair would be better
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>>126009016
everyone else using their signature/alt hair except arisha
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>>126009242
Vella's signature hair is the Anchor cut, which she isn't using, and Fiona has no signature hair to speak of, as her actual "signature" hair is obstructed by the shining will helmet.
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>>126008853
>wanting disgusting things on hot fanart
anon..
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>>126004960
you mean the inner?

too bad that is not in game yet


>>126009016
>>126008853
signature hair or not, twin tails somehow doesn't look good on arisha (neither fiona)
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>>126010108
Her alternative signature hair is the wild long hair or whatever it's called, which is what she's using in this pic

Arisha has 2 signature hairs, the miley cyrus and pureheart. She could've used wither one here
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>>126010692
because they're mature women not 16 year olds
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>>125959329
EU one is only for christmas though.
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>>126012774
Reading comprehension isn't your best trick huh
protip: only the rune is christmas-only
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>>126013079
protip: try correcting someone without the autism next time
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>>126013890
Protip: stop whiteknighting random faggots on the internet
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>>126014456
stop being a random faggot on the internet
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>>126018485
try and stop me
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See you guys next update
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MAYBE IF WE SPEND MORE MONEY ON NX FOR IN GAME ITEMS THEY'LL FIX THINGS? C'MON GUYS!
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>>126024223

I bought hair and inner for my Lynn and then stopped playing her a week later. I ain't doing that again
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>>126024384
Only because you played lynn
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>>126024384
>>126024939
Whens revamp.
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>>126032547
2+ years for murica.
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ded 2, ded harderâ„¢
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>>126023445
Ok
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>>126032547
Probably not until August next year, at the rate things are going.
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what's the sluttiest outift possible
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>>126043184
Wonderland top and raiders skirt. If you got money, there's twinkling armor.
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>>126023445
>See you guys next update

that's what the skeleton said in ainle catacombs too
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:^)
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>Crit flash
>No crit damage

well fuck you too, game
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>>126050115
gitgud
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>>126050115
This game has always had fucking terrible hit detection. Turn on damage numbers and you'll see how many of your attacks that hit the enemy, make a hit sound/crit flash, but do no damage because they were moving slightly away from you.
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ded 3, the dedoningâ„¢
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>the skill reset from attendance event expires after 30 days

kek, what a fagets ppl at nexon are

giving the shitty version of skill reset isn't enough, they had to made it time limited too
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>tfw I only log on to do run a raid, then log off

How do you people keep playing this for more than an hour at a time?
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Played from lvl 1 to 79 with staff, thinking about going scythe at lvl 80 since Im getting tired of easy mode, is it worth it?
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>>126061546
yes, scythe is fun

if you have 40-50 speed at least
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Personnal experience with Haggie, I find him to be quite boring since all you is LLLLRR or LLLRR. His spells arent really worth casting besides the boss lock. Honestly I was expecting hagay to be something more like Virgil from DMC 3, but I guess boring spells is what we get
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>>126065692
By the looks of it in parties, he seemed fun
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>>126062126
Uh right all I have for now is a heremon +6
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>>126066614
well, in parties where you don't get aggro all the time she can be ok with slower speeds too
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based korea
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>>126067526
>Delia is shown to have an ample bosom
>get a washboard to cosplay her
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>>126068351
They're in Korea dude. How many girls with big boobs do you think are around over there?
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>>126068878
>>126067526
she doesn't looks korean
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Ded.
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wake up
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So Delia has a lot of gameplay videos now of people doing raids and whatnot, I'm assuming this is on the KR test server.

Any ETA on when she's coming over? When did KR get Hagie?
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>>126078020
With a good chance she will be on NA/EU in the summer months

> I'm assuming this is on the KR test server.
I'm not sure, but didn't KR got Delia on their regular server last week?
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>>126065692
>expecting anything other than a male equivalent of cb vella
kek, at least vella can switch weapons and dressup
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>try soloing Keaghan as glaive
>get my shit slapped like that time i played pre-revamp scythe
Fuc
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>>126080071
>Try to solo a raid boss as any character
>Stop after 15 minutes because it's fucking boring

I don't understand people's obsessions with soloing things. If I wanted a 30+ minute battle I'd join a pub lavasat.
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>>126080071
How does Keaghan's instant kill work anyways?
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>>126080273
People will have fun with things you'll never understand and vice versa friendo :^)
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>>126080506
What do you mean? if you aren't dodging when he finishes his instant kill animation you get pulled and die, if you are dodging when he does you dodge it.
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>>126080506
It triggers as soon as he pulls his arm down, you can dodge it with iframes or by running really far away.
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>>126080743
>not just interrupting him
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>>126080273
i'm too shy to join a pub

but really i just use soloing with default equipment as a gauge of how good a character is, although i'm not sure if i should since it's a party based game at the end of the day
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>>126082124
>too shy
why are you playing an mmo then?
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If we are at keaghan:
Is there any visual difference between his 1-hit and 2-hit swing at the start?
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>>126082392
Don't think so. Most people just counter it by dodging and then attacking to the left so that the second hit misses. It tracks but most characters can get under the arc.
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Lugh when?
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>>126083076
yea, that's a good idea, gonna try it
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>>126086837
Why are you waiting Lugh, you gonna get rekt anyway
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this threda is truly a living ded now
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>>126082250
MMOs have basically killed all singleplayer rpgs
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>>126093095
I want his cloth
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>>126004096
>lazy eye evie

lmao
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>>126099128
hwat
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God damn, my client has crashed too many times today when joining boats. Fix pls
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>>126093095
I want his music
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>>126108692
This would be sort of cute if the outfit had some kind of colour coordination.
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>>126110553
I'm working on it
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>new character just released
>already ded

lmao
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>4 different outfitters in the new gacha box
>250 Witch's Tears needed for the top ones

Nexon going ham trying to get that Christmas money
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>>126113513
>>126065692

My words, Arisha set the bar too high, shes a masterrace and hagay is an exemple of poor design, I cant believe that after the amazing jog they did with her they go and release a shit stain like hagry
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>>126110619
That should say 79 now honestly
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>>126113523
>Nexon going full ham
Been wearing them for months, I'm ready
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>>126114757

But Arisha is more boring to play than Hagie
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>>126116039
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Watch your mouth nerd
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>>126114757
I main Arisha right now, she's hella fun, but I wouldn't say that Hagie is a complete bust.

She requires a little more skill to use and is certainly more rewarding to do well with, but Hagies ranged hit and run playstyle is a nice change of pace.

I really don't like Delia though, they really just made a female hurk that acts like Lynn.
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>>126117539
What's wrong with female hurk?
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>>126117539
Delia doesn't even remotely play like Hurk though, they just have similar weapons.

Hagie's "hit and run" has been around forever, the whole game was hit and run before everyone became giant invincible balls of deeps.

Arisha herself isn't even that demanding. The mana stuff all sounds complex, but it's really simple to get used to and at that point she's just melee CB with a glorified stacking mechanic.
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>>126117539
I wanted hurk to be female the second he was announced.
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>>126119689
I wanted [male class] to be female the second he was announced.
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I want more Arisha and Lynn makeup options god dammit, my fetish is fake women
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>>126121221
But really, women with 2handed swords gets my dick hard.
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>>126118261
Just watched a showcase of her skills and it's pretty much just dragging around a greatsword, AKA Hurk with tits.

Sure they aren't identical, but don't pretend she's some "new idea."

Arisha isn't the hardest character, Lynn will probably own that spot till this game dies, but compared to everyone else she can be a lot to handle since she adds a third resource bar and a number of CD skills to manage constantly. I never played CB Vella so I don't know much about any comparisons to her, but I've heard it before so it's probably true.


On a side note, the new gatchas are bullshit, I get that it's Nexon, but hot damn it's bad.
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Oh boy time for 2x AP I can't wa-
>server response delayed
>server response delayed
>SERVER RESPONSE DELAYED
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nothing more infuriating than repeatedly getting hit by a boss.
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>>126082124
If you can solo a boss you'll most likely end up carrying all the scrubs who need parties to do bosses and be praised for it when you do join.

Or they'll be salty and think you damage potted to beat them. :^)
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>>126121886
Hurk's playstyle completely revolves around chaining smashes into each other with how his dodge keeps combos. Plus his defensive mechanism is an absorb.

Delia is based on landing followups from her smashes (either a slow utility one or a fast damage one) and then using her block/dodge to get out of the way and buffer another smash.

The simple fact that Delia has to buffer smashes is already a giant difference.

I'd argue Arisha is easier than both Lanns, both Evies, TS Vella (pre-revamp, if you don't do no damage and just L CC), Hurk (if you actually minmax his DPS and not just faceroll), and Lynn.

Arisha's CDs aren't complex at all, there's never a reason to save them so you just wait for the icon to light up and you smash your face on it. There's 0 thought given to using any CD which makes it easy.

Likewise resource management isn't hard. You don't commit your resources until you actually use the smash. There's no risk of timing Mana Blade poorly so you can just always keep using it without thinking. Bar full, use mana. Bar empty, build mana.

Virtually every other character has to consider the value of their resources (mainly SP CDs) when they use them, Arisha doesn't. You may have more bars and icons on screen but you think about them far less.
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>>126121886
>Just watched a showcase of her skills and it's pretty much just dragging around a greatsword, AKA Hurk with tits.
You're dumb.

Arisha is pretty one dimensional even with an extra resource bar because her options at high level play are really flowchart, just like Haggie.
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>>126126916
Sword Lanns dodge makes pretty much everything easy, spear lanns difficulties got gimped in the last update, same with both Evies (even when her shields get nerfed in the future she'll still be simple), and Hurk is literally mindless dodging and brainless playing. Like I said, I never played Vella, but aside from Lynn, Arisha requires more though than any other character imo.

>>126128502
>You're dumb
Oh, we've got a scholar here :^)
Fuck off retard.
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>>126130013
>Fuck off retard.
I'm not the one saying Delia plays like Hurk from only watching gameplay videos of her.

It's dumber than saying TS Vella is a clone of TS Lann.
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Can you launch the game without Steam or the Nexon launcher again
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>>126130808
Get with the times gramps
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>>126131135

Thanks sonny Jim
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>>126130327
Exactly this. Her defensive mechanics brings her closer to playing like Arisha than Hurk, and even then they're still different characters entirely. The only thing that Hurk and Arisha share is the fact that they both use greatswords.
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>>126114981
Do you know what the set is called in the game files?
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>>126142096
Is that a garbage bin?
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Staff Evie is broken
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ded gaem
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One new cosmetic was added into the game files with today's update, labelled as 'ridecat'. It looks like it can be dyed like most avatar sets.
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>>126150331
CUTE
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Land of the dedâ„¢
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I'm level 90 with a +12 80. Should I sell it and get a 90 weapon, or keep it, or try and go for +13?
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>>126131135
>direct launch
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If this thread dies I'm going to blow up my +14 abyss.
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Call of duty, ded ops IIIâ„¢
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Do you see yourself playing this game one year from now?
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>>126160507
If that new slut comes to the west by then, sure.
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>>126160507
there are still some chars i want to level and gear up
also, minmax my mains
(i never understood people who keep sticking to only one char through the years)

and doing the more fun raids from time to time, trying to get better and better at solos, etc

+this >>126160559

i guess for many, what kills the game is doing the same 5-10 raids every day in hope of drops, regardless of new or old content

for me, it's the fucking jewing with runes and enchant/enhance rates
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>>126160507
It never ends.
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>>126130013
Lanns at least have a reactionary component where you have to plan a crit and non-crit option for every window. You still never reach 100% crit.

Staff Evie is just cooldown management hell, I might just be bad at that sort of character but the keeping optimal DPS on Staff is far more tiresome for me than on Arisha. Scythe is slow which makes playing around attack windows far harder.

I said minmax DPS Hurk, the pace you get to while having to manage Ultimatum cancels is actually ridiculous.

As far as I can tell based off your comments, you view difficulty at a baseline level of not dying while still doing some damage. I view it as how hard it is to squeeze out most of the damage potential from the class. Arisha becomes a very simple flowchart when played optimally, to the point that there are very few situational options for you to minmax DPS.
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I'm scared

If this new chapter keeps cap at 90 there won't be gear worth switching to unless its new accessories, so it'll be super ded if the new content isn't fun

But if they do bump the cap up and make better gear the boss stats are going to be fucking ridiculous

And when will they get bored of making human-looking raidbosses
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>>126166227
they could have made at least the main mats have varied stats of crit, bals, spd etc
maybe different buffs too

also, lvl90s purple stuff is way too easy to craft with expertise, requiring no ores, orbs or anything else
this is a joke
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>>126170454
The ores and orbs are only needed when replacing materials, no?
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>>126170598
needed for npc crafting too

bad to see people sometimes trying to sell npc crafted purple/blue stuff, either not knowing about expertises cheapness or have nobody to ask from
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>>126160507
I've said no to this question for 5 years, and yet I've never stopped playing
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The default hair for Delia are fucking awful.
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>>126130013
>Arisha requires more though than any other character imo.
It's funny you say that because Arisha has more cooldowns/resources to manage and then go and list Staffie, whom is basically impossible to keep the optimal rotation with due to variables involving positioning and CF cycling.
>>
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How much attack do you need to not get kicked from everything nowadays?
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>>126177274
20k seems to be the magic number ,especially for s3 and these s2 raid trains everyone is doing

Any sane s2 host probably doesn't care unless it's Kraken or Cromm
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>>126131963
>Hurk and Arisha
>both use greatswords
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>>126177274
18, but s2 is more often 19 and s3 is 20 now

and EU with this 200-220 stastsum craze
like as if i should build aspd too on my kai

and disregarding that some classes have built in stat/speedbuff anyway (hurk, evie, karok,...)
now this is the same bs (just in different form) when half of s2 weaps had much higher att, yet the restriction was 17-18k was for everyone

now what annoys me if i have 21k att, 80 bal 30spd and 100 crit, whats is really ok and good enough for s2, thats still not enough for 220-240 what some ppl set
and i won't wb/enthu/fast on these alts because rather spend the gold on my mains then
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>Tieve and pre-corruption Keaghan outfitters finally out
>Need 250 shards
>Each violet witch item can give 1-3 shards
>10 violet witches for 15.2k NX

J U S T
U
S
T
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>>126183718
>not knowing nexon's jew schemes from all the other outfitters

the first time they released Iset outfit you didn't even get shards from boxes, they had to start doing that with the SQ one
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>>126183718
>Being surprised by Nexon's Jewery
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>>126183718
>>126183951
Is this some EU shit?
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>>126184071
It's in NA. Maybe it's EU too.
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>>126185127
What do you have to buy to get them? I havent seen them in game yet
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>>126170454
Maybe they'll make the weapons have fun stat distributions again, like raider's vs dreamwalker weapons.

At least one set of named weapons would be nice too.
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>>126066431
>By the looks of it in parties, he seemed fun
>>126067096
>well, in parties where you don't get aggro all the time she can be ok with slower speeds too
>>126126719
>If you can solo a boss you'll most likely end up carrying all the scrubs who need parties to do bosses and be praised for it when you do join.

>read parties as panties
>every. single. post.
Why is my skim reading perverted?
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So when's third trans coming out, it triggers my autism how I'm afraid to spend my last point.
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>>126136385
Dark Night
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>>126185770
never

>>126185314
because you are hentai desu senpai
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>>126185770
Christmas
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>>126184071
Back then only KR had such gachapons, then they thought it's unfair and NA/EU should be equal in this manner

of course they just wanted to establish this jewing among western players too

maybe that gangster set was the last one what KR got in gachapons but we still got it in the normal way
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>>126155970
keep it until you can buy a +12 lvl90 then sell it
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Is there anything you can farm now to make decent money, or is it all about the big random from raids
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>>126196010
Heavenly leather, godly iron ore, godly cloth all sell really fast around 250-300k on east. Not hard to get, can farm it.

Plus there are weapon materials like shards etc that sell well if you get good ones.
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>>126196010
I'd say Ben is popular,although (in EU at least) SG's rings and Dead ES are just as good.Also,i'm sure peaks drops are good too since no one really goes there these days (also some steady income with exq ores).
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>>126196010
Ben Chenner is generally a good place to farm as long as you get a party who'd be willing to farm with you.
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>Vindictus Academy
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>>126202405
I thought you were trying to plug some shitty fan website

This shit is weird but I'm happy they care enough to make something like that for the game, even if it's just in that region
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>>126202405
Vindictus what?
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>>126202405

I like the teacher guy.
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>tfw no money
Will I ever break 20k
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>>126205308
It isn't impossible, I haven't spent a dime on my Arisha aside from Vanity and I'm over 20k.

It just takes more time and some extra effort to get there. Buy pre enchanted cheap gear and cheese it.
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>>126203381
EU had a Games Expo attendance and more youtube presence at release too...but nowadays nothing
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Which one of you fucking broke it
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>3 bars left on Havan
>everything freezes
>get returned to town

thanks nexon
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Just started playing this game last week and the game suddenly became shit at Irukul and Weeping Queen. Does it ever get any better or does it stay like this forever?
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>>126216650
You're hitting the point where you must git gud.
This is where the game becomes fun.
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>>126217108
Waiting 30 years for weeping queen to tunnel around until you can finally hit her isn't fun.
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>>126217347
She comes up every four seconds. Not my fault you're impatient.
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>>126217541

>burrows
>pops up for a second
>burrows again

repeat ad nauseum
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>>126216650
I wouldn't worry about it Irukul and WQ are annoying.
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is the game still dead i just want to get a boat and continue the story so i can fight lugh when he comes out
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Why are pink dyes so uncommon?

Does the avatar dye system work like the cloddagh dyes where you get 1 of 6 colors?
>>
RIP EAST
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>>126220162
You don't need to do the story to fight the new S3 bosses, as long as you're 80 you can join the non-story versions.
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>>126221814
but i want to see the story
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Is the dude with the seal maker still here
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>>126221728
No raids, no Rocheste, no Ben Chenner entrance, no seal trading, no dailies, no mats/title farming, no quests/storyline runs, nothing.
The only boat I found was an Ulchas run filled with level 70-75 Sylas, most of them left after 5 minutes.
I could farm titles, mats or other stuff alone but I don't like it.
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>>126222184
Well then you can just solo the story missions. The bosses scale to party member size, but the lesser elf bosses are annoying as fuck to do solo because of their constant debuff stacks.
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Are Ghoibniu stones shareable through account storage?
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>>126220801
Hard to find purples, too.
And yes, it's like the regular dyes
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>>126224387
>Those retards on the forums saying everyone will be back for Christmas Break and that the population hasn't declined
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>>126228361
This game used to be more popular around christmas break, but that was in 2010-2012.
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>Create party for The Howling Soul
>Mission name fails the word filter
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BREAKING NEWS ON EAST: The letter U is censored.
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>>126228361
They are the ones that said that Sylas hype was going to bring back everybody.
>population hasn't declined
Apparently they never have trouble raiding or making a boat for whatever they want, they always claim their boats fill fast even with only pubs.
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So how dead is NFA compared to a year ago
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>>126233730
I haven't seen above 11 at once in almost 3 weeks
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>>126233730
We're a lot more dead because we didn't have any golden time event. I still miss having that active of a guild.
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>friends list finally becomes full after 5 years
>having to delete people I used to talk to years ago
>some I can't bring myself to remove in the hopes that they log in again someday, even though its been years

Feels really bad.
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Karok masterrace
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what to spend 260+ seals on?
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>>126244992
If you need a 90 weapon, take a gamble and get the 256 heroic power seal box.
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>>126246492
already got a 90 wep with orange main and another orange, 3 part purple
kinda poor, doubt i could afford to go +10 with another if i boom my current one
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>>126247305
I'd still go with the seal box. If you get a weapon, just craft one with purple secondaries and list it on the market.
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>>126250683
so gambling on a main wep is probably the best bet?
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>mfw this general is more alive than the BnS general
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>>126244992
>>126251675
wait for lugh release then spend on a main mat box in hope of a lugh mat to sell for a good price
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>>126252064
alright sounds good, wouldnt the stats be the same though
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>>126252216
yeah but lugh is cloth, what would be more sought after than regina/braha
(prob. even higher price at release)

other possibility would be expertise crafting, but lvl80 mats are so cheap these days, i'm not sure if worth to spend seals on those anymore

on the other hand, many orange armor mains have shitty price too, what makes these seal boxes regrettable
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>>126252917
mm yeah, i have nothing else to spend it on, and trying to play another char is boring because of the grind from 30 onwards (yes im that lazy now)
>>
Anyone on west wanna do some storyline s3 stuff?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivWgsnTg0ZM
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>>126251759
that general was becoming more and more like terag by the day
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Anyone know when is the next steam sale?
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>>126258239
Steam sale for Vindictus? No clue. Steam sale in general? Right fucking now.
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>>126255508
>Those keaghan and ingkells themes

Good stuff.
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nothin personnel, kid
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Haven't played in over a year, is this game still dead as fuck or what?
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If NFA had a Hall of Fame consisting of 10 former and current players who would you place in it?
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>>126262034
me
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>>126251759
I thought BnS isn't even released yet?
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>>126263661
You can get into the closed beta by buying a founders pack.
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>>126264159
Closed Beta period is over though.
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>>126262034
1. Gigadon
2. Megadeus
>>
1) gudplayer
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>>126262034
Ent
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>>126262034
Whyjpeg leader
Crab and all the crustaceans of the sea
Vegar-senpai
Cadwallllllllllader
Dante from Devil May Cryâ„¢
Magical girl Illyas
Emako/ku of the devil's luck
Squirtle the pokemon
Jordis DD
You
>>
Are Combat EXP boosts character-specific or account-wide?
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>>126277985
The ones from the daily ticket shop is char bound, and char specific when used
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>>126279095
Mine aren't from the ticket shop-- but they are char bound. Will they apply to only the character or the account?
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>>126279095
Where even IS the daily ticket shop?
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>>126282138
at lower right corner, event button
since 2-3 months, kek

>>126279641
prob. only char
if those are that 3 and 10 days capsules
i used a few version of them and all were only for that char

as i know vVIP has an acc wide xp buff, but that built in the vip service, not as a separate capsule (?)
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>>126282601
Thanks, I used a VIP once and it didn't spread, but VVIP did.
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>Enhance Runes still in AP shop

wasn't this only for 2 weeks a meant to be removed with today's maint.?
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>>126251759

I hate what people turned that general into. Blade and Soul has some good stuff to it and all people post is their disgusting abominations all the time. We had that sometimes but it didn't dominate the thread and it died down after sometime.
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>>126285154

Wait EU has the AP Shop AND Tir coins now?

Nexon NA please
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>>126286185
I wish Nexon would stop bullshitting around with these and just let us list cash shop items for gold on the marketplace
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>>126286185
On the other hand EU keeps getting the nerfed version of gachas, now the Witch Hat, no shards to buy the sets you want (if into that stuff)

But players doesn't seem to complain about it much, and dumb mastercardfags just keep buying these packs no matter what

Fucking sheeple people.
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>>126288012
>no shards to buy the sets you want
I guess they removed those shards because of the lowered cost (990 nx to buy on EU).Not that it's any better...
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The sad thing is, Nexon most likely makes more money by putting outfitters in a gacha than they do by putting them in the outfitter shop for $32.

Them credit card whales are the audience for these events.
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>>126290842
Yeah, now i remember it is like the last time they did these changes

But makes no sense, GMs wouldnt decide this way (and can't, i guess) Korean HQ neither, if they gave NA the original version so no idea whose ass they pulled this idea off
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>>126277636
You can basically tell when someone is new if they don't name anyone of the old guys.
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>>126293651
>Them credit card whales are the audience for these events.
I make $30/hr with disposable income.
I'm actually considering sperging like $400 for these boxes...
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>>126302236
How can people do this, do they not feel dirty after spending so much on RNG shit?

How can someone justify spending more than 15-30 bucks total on this, especially given how little effort Nexon actually spends making this game playable.
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>>126302749
>How can someone justify spending more than 15-30 bucks total on this
It's entertainment and gambling. I make enough money that this would barely dent my bank account, especially since I'm not big into investing (yet).

Realistically, I can turn the question around and criticize you for spending money on ANY uneeded entertainment.
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>>126300272
Half of the people I listed have been playing since 2012 at the very least, you're the only new one here.
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>>126277636
>Illyas
>Emako
>Dante?
You must be new
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>>126303716
>No Ent
>No Serapia
>No Falkyn
>No Gordito

Nah.
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>>126303017
>Realistically, I can turn the question around and criticize you for spending money on ANY uneeded entertainment.

Hardly, as far as physical value goes, there's nothing cheaper and more meaningless than Vindictus' RNG.

It has nothing to do with extra spending money either, I have plenty, but it's baffling that people are willing to give money to a company that clearly doesn't even try to appeal to the customer anymore.

If you have a gambling thirst, at least go somewhere where they'll appreciate it.
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>>126303716
The only reason you know them is because they still play.
You don't know about Ent, Hite, Exitus, Magek, jDUKE and countless others.
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>>126303981
>Hardly, as far as physical value goes,
Physical value is a small part of the equation because we're talking about entertainment gambling. What if I value the outfitter at $400? What if I also like to gamble for it?

It's no different than people who spend $10 every week for their entire lives hoping to win the lottery at 0.0000007% chance, or people who spend $15 on movie tickets every week watching mindless Hollywood entertainment.

Fuck off with your pompous attitude.
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>>126304015
>jDUKE
Truly, the original memester of NFA.

>Hite
Still gets on every once in awhile, but yeah he doesn't even know about Hite.
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>>126303789
I put them because they were really good at the game, that's my opinion of course.
>>126303865
>>126304015
There was 10 spots and I put who I liked in them, sorry if it hurt your feelings that you weren't chosen.
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>>126304585
>There was 10 spots and I put who I liked in them

It's not much of a Hall of Fame now, is it?

Just admit it, you don't know about any of the old guys.

Is Exitus actually gone forever
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>>125820563
I made a macro on my g600 so my fourth normal attack is always a Spirit Rend.
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>>126262034
jDUKE in all 10 spots
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>>126304248
Have fun Mr. Whale, tell Nexon I said hello as they fuck your ass raw.

But I'm sure it will all be worth it too look good in a dead MMO. :^)
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>>126304840
Well I put people I liked, that were good at the game, that were special in some way that would make you remember them, those were my criteria.
Exitus has been gone for a long long time.
I also quit early in 2013 and only came back late 2014 so obviously I don't know about anyone in that time frame. I never heard of jDUKE.
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HEY EAST CAN WE STOP BEING FAGGOTS

>>126262034
>>126277636
DELETE THESE
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>>126305590
More like nerdployee
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>>126305346
>But I'm sure it will all be worth it too look good in a dead MMO. :^)

I'll be here until the end; I've resigned myself to that fate, but it's no different from subbing to an MMO since everything dies eventually.
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>>126305590
I just don't think they should be Hall of Fame. For example, Dante was barely here with us for a year. Ilyas only came over since his guild died and he's an elitist. Emako also didn't stay long (he went back to TERA?).

Then again, this whole namedropping thing is an attempt to fish for shitposting anyways so whatever.
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>>126306382
It's not like im taking this hall of fame thing seriously you know, just something to keep the thread alive. I thought it was pretty obvious with the names I gave to everyone I listed.
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>>126305346
This.

The game will never improve when people pay $300-400/month just to sniff Nexon's fart.

Want the game to go to a company who believes in less RNG and better server management? Stop paying Nexon so goddamn much money. The game has a playerbase of only about 500 "people" (with AT LEAST 50 being bot accounts). The majority are bots and completely free players but the top 50 people spend around $300+/month on this game. One dude on the East server even mentioned spending over $800 in one month. If I'm Nexon, I'm gonna balance the game around the whales and put all of the cool stuff in RNG. "There's a 0.1% chance to get a level cap +10 Maelstrom weapon just by spending a dollar?! I spent $600 so far and didn't get one but damn I'll get one and once one opens up then I'll hit a streak and get many more so I better drop another $100."

At least if you gamble by playing the lottery then some money goes to the school system or gambling at a casino creates local jobs. Instead, people spend their money on Vindictus and Nexon uses the money in a way that provides zero benefit to the community. At least other MMOs use cash shop revenue to create/improve servers and hire more representatives but Nexon just fires people and uses the openings as profit. Shit, the NA Producer of the game held a QA on Ch 1 West server in the hot spring with OP-as-fuck soap when Sylas came out. When asked about finding another community manager and also about the server lag, he said, "These issues take time resolve but we're looking into it." Then everyone just said sure take your time and thanks for the soap, instead of even attempting to be critical.
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>>126307656
>The game will never improve when people pay $300-400/month just to sniff Nexon's fart.
The game will never improve in general.

Have you ever played DFO? People got fed up with Nexon's shitty cash-shop events and long stretches of no updates so they either stopped playing or stopped spending money. What did Nexon do? They shut down the game.

Here's the kicker though:
In their blog post about the closing of the game, they blamed the death of the game on people not supporting it enough. They basically said that no one spent money and there wasn't enough interest to host the game, so tough luck.

So don't act like 'voting with your wallet' means anything here when it comes to Nexon NA.
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>People are so addicted to gambling I just witnessed someone compare paying hundreds of dollars for a chance at a video game outfit to paying 15 bucks for a movie
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>>126305346
Everything ends anon. In the end as long as you can still live comfortably with what you splurge it doesn't matter how much you spend. I mean, do you complain to McDonalds that they're raping you in the ass everytime you take a shit?
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So I'm not having any ISP problems here, but all day I'm having trouble with people disconnecting when starting boats, or an inability to start boats myself.

Something about an error getting party data or server response time. This is on East. What the fuck is going on and can I fix it?
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>>126307965
Good. I hope Nexon shuts the game down so someone else will pick it up. Someone else picked up DFO after Nexon so someone will also pick up Vindi.
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>>126307965
If people would stop spending money on this shit in the first place it would never have gotten to this point.

Nexon will use the same excuse as they did in DFO when this game finally dies, but if people stopped shelling out for stupid shit like gachas, we'd get better games in future games.

Too bad whales like you will always be there to reinforce greedy company's bad habits.

>>126308732
>Implying I'd eat at McDonald's

Settling for shitty service just because you can be happy with it is unhealthy, consumers have a responsibility to keep companies like Nexon from getting away with this nonsense, but we've failed because we're too complacent.
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>>126309337
That's best case scenario with this game because there honestly is a lot of money to be made with this game, and Nexon is squandering most of it because it's too much effort.
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>>126309489
>Missing the point entirely

It doesn't matter where you eat, the bottom line is do you whine at the grocer or whatever food chain you go to that they're fucking you in the ass just because the money you put forth for their product is very literally wasted by the time you wipe your asshole?
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>>126309337
That's very doubtful considering Devcat is an in house studio of Nexon's. It's not like DFO where Neople isn't a direct underling of the company, so the notion of "voting with your money" just doesn't work here. This is the rut we're in. If people don't support the game it will just flat out die, and if people do support it then the greed just keeps going.
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>>126309719

That has nothing to do with anything going on in this thread, whatever point youre trying to make is wasted because your reading comprehension is worse than you think mine is.

But feel free to keep arguing for Nexons sake, I'm sure it'll pay off.
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>>126309193
Okay, now I'm having "server response delayed" continuously upon starting a game with people already ready to go in the boat.

The fuck
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I have a question about Hurk's Transcendent. I've heard that a Berserker es resets the rate of the hp drain, so I tested the time that it takes for me to get from full hp to 1 attacking non-stop while wearing a Berserker accessory and while without. Surprisingly the times for both are almost identical. So can anybody explain how exactly does the Berserker es interact with Transcendent.

If it means anything, the accessory that I used also had Significant and it changed my att spd from 10 to 11. Also I have Battle Respiration rank A.
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>>126309719
What the fuck is this even supposed to mean?
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>>126310346
It has everything to do with this thread. You flaunt your "moral high ground" in >>126305346 by taunting that "they're fucking your ass raw" because he spends his money in things that he enjoys while you sit there like the curmudgeon you are and complain about bad business practices. I flat out state that everything has an expiration date and the best way to go about with life is doing the things you enjoy so long as it doesn't hamper your way of life, which apparently it doesn't for that anon considering he makes $30 an hour.
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>>126310656
So just do whatever the fuck you want because you won't be around to deal with the consequences, eh?

You're both an idiot and an asshole.
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>>126310932
>So just do whatever the fuck you want because you won't be around to deal with the consequences, eh?

It's you that's the idiot and the asshole anon. He's a whale playing to pretty up. How would he not be around to see the consequences of his actions? I mean did you really think this through?

>Oh I spent all this money and equipped this stuff on my guy
>time to log off forever and never look at her or flaunt her new outfit at all
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>>126311173
Why would you defend someone supporting such dirty business practices for ANY reason.

I guess whales like you and the other anon would rather bend over backwards trying to defend yourself giving money out the ass to Nexon because you're too weak minded to do anything else, like stop giving them money.

Like I said before, have fun getting fucked by them, you directly contribute to the decay of this and every other F2P game.
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>>126310932
The very opposite, the people who spend money on this game, the "whales" do so willingly, because they derive pleasure from it. Nexon sees this and decides to cater to them, because after all they are what keeps the game alive.
This game is not for you anymore, a kid movie won't entertain you as an adult because you've changed. Vindictus won't entertain you anymore because the game changed, the demographic has changed and it's here to stay.
The truly sad people are the one who whine and cry about it, because they're losing time on a fool's errand. It's futile to think that Vindictus will ever not be about whales anymore. I would even go as far as to say that it's dumb to even entertain the idea of it, the whales are having fun and you crying that they're enabling Nexon is not going to change the fact that they willingly do so and that Nexon as accepted it as a matter of fact that people will keep enabling them.
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>>126311914
I'm not even a whale. I haven't spent a dime on this game in the past two years. I don't have to be a whale to get where he's coming from. Is it bad business practice? You bet your ass it is. But what's the alternative? Wallowing in a sea of combat mediocrity in other mmos? Because this game isn't gonna have a Neople to bail it should Nexon close it down due to poor profits.
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my mouth is watering at the thought of someone else picking vindictus up and providing good updates as well as fixes. Fuck man....
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCPi5Qyhboo&index=7&list=WL

>after blocking, do I counter or do I skip to Butterfly?
>Why not both?
This new mechanic looks unbalanced, but fun as hell. Also, parrying during Stigma.
Is there any reason to use Large Shields? Iron Defense seems to be a very small advantage compared to the damage output that Small Shields have now.
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>>126312846
>Vindictus
>developed by Nexon's in studio company Devcat
>Expecting anyone else picking it up

You're an idiot.
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>>126312101
I've accepted this game will never change, but the overall business model can, that's my point.

In the future when this game is gone and there's something else F2P holding our attention, I want to be able to give money to it with a clear conscience instead of just giving in to the company's greed.
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>>126312904
I only use Butterfly to get SP on bigger bosses, or just to clear out mobs.
And during Slashing High.
Otherwise I use Stigma.
Large Shields are almost purely for survivability purposes. Huge bonuses to SP gain and DEF, but you lose the deeps skills (HS Counter, Counterattack).

I absolutely love Iron Defense since it nullifies a fair amount of 1-hit KO's in S2. I mainly use it if I'm on a fast humanoid boss (like Ingkells) because it's fucking annoying parrying/blocking every 2 seconds.
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>>126312140
I doubt this will be the last MMO with this style of combat, since the game is huge in Korea, if it eventually goes under someone will take it's place.

I'd rather this game die because nobody would give into their half baked gachas than let it pace the way for more games like it to come.
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>>126313983
>"What did you say? A game went under? Copy it's mechanics immediately, if it went under it must mean it was pretty good."
:^)
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>>126313983
That's great and all but I'm not talking about something in the future in Korea. I'm talking about here and now in the western markets. I don't doubt that something fun and better will come, but until that something better also pops up on western shores, I'm not gonna be one to want to accelerate the demise of a game I actually enjoyed. For a while I thought blade and soul or black desert would be those but blade and soul just felt like an extension of Tera's system and black desert would have been better named as big disappointment.
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>>126314176
Thanks for proving my point because you don't read my posts, dumbass.
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>>126313983
>I'd rather this game die because nobody would give into their half baked gachas than let it pace the way for more games like it to come.

Way too late for that, people gambling hundreds for cosmetics is probably going to become the standard for PC games and will eventually work its way over to console games.
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>>126314494
Way of the future.
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Yo, I'm a mac fag and recently Vindictus won't launch anymore do to VMware fusion. What do?
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>>126314847
faggot
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>>126314494
There's worse systems f2p mmo developers use to rake in money.

>gambling for mediocre sidegrades
>paying to enter dungeons
>paying to be able to fucking sprint
>paying to get married
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>>126315119
>paying to enter dungeons

Man can you imagine if Vindictus did that
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>>126315119
But we used to pay coins to run boats
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>>126316287
We were also given free coins to spend. With this one you literally either paid to be able to enter or you never went in ever.
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>>126309337
>I hope Nexon shuts the game down so someone else will pick it up.

No one will pick up Vindictus because it's owned by Nexon and Nexon also owns the studio that developers it: Devcat.

DFO wasn't picked up by anyone, rather it was self-published by the developers. They originally used Nexon as a 3rd party publisher.

If this game dies with Nexon, it dies for good.

Baka
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>>126319497
Had no idea. That blows.
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Are there any Australian guilds on the US servers?
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ded
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Delia will save this game, I'm sure of it.
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>>126316543
>tfw used to buy and hoard copper tokens
>one day nexon decided to actually listen to players and remove token system
>get refunded like 300k NX
>I was at work when it happened
>come back home the NX was gone
I could've bought so many fucking pantsu/hair and runes fuck I'm still mad I had work that day
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>>126324301
No idea on Australian guilds but there are Australian players around at least.
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>>126336378
>Every character release
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Is Hagie going to be more or less popular than Karok in NA?
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I'm going to sleep, and I won't see you guys when I wake up.

>>126345129

Hagie more popular now
Karok more popular after his revamp
Hagie more popular after the revamp hype dies down
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>>126339848
What, the refund was an afternoon or a day long only?
That's actually pretty cheap but expectable, from nexon, kek

I guess the only reason they changed was so they can pull of even more money from players if they aren't limited doing dungeons
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>>126345129
hagies is way more edgier so its will stay somehat popular
altough not lann or hurk level edgy, but still close enough behind them
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>>126346149
It was just a mistake on their part, since the copper tokens were from the cash shop, but tradeable. So I bought those with gold, but when Nexon made the change and they probably just counted how many tokens I had and concluded I must've spent 300k NX on them when I didn't spend a cent. Had I been online during the day before they fixed their mistake, I could've taken advantage of it.
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>>126313885
>Large shield on fast bosses
Shouldn't it be the other way around? With Small Shields, you can counter during the small windows they have. Large Shield has to rely on Butterfly, which you can only do reliably with Iron Defense, which has a cooldown and a SP cost.
Also, how come Large Shields have better SP buildup? You get more SP from blocking with it than with Small Shield?
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>>126352002
Really it's just Small Shield on everything unless you're uncomfortable, which is more likely on fast bosses.

I don't actually believe Large Shields have better SP build simply as Counter builds ~150 SP. I think PHS gains marginally more SP than PG. The argument there is that counter isn't optimal DPS, but it's a boss specific thing like on Zecallion where you can't really use Deflection as much due to all the long combo strings. Most recent bosses just have those sorts of combos constantly so it's still beneficial to have.
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Why are you guys still playing this game?
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>>126354191
I'm just sayin' theres better out there.

Honestly all of the new Vindictus content sucks, all the good outfits are reserved for megashills, and it's a dead game.

What's the point? I honestly don't get how people can hang on anymore when there's new shit right around the corner.
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>>126354403
>BDO Isn't out unless you play with 500 ping
>SJW & Censorship
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>>126354403
BnS hasn't sold me on the combat. Will have to try first.
Also, it's not out on NA yet. Should I just stop playing Vindictus and wait for Bns while doing nothing?
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>>126354514
BDO is in NA beta right now, it won't be long.
Censorship on what? BDO?
BnS isn't censored at all for NA, just an fyi.

>>126354531
I felt the same way until I played it, it's honestly very satisfying. I still love Vindictus combat more but the content, dress up, and other shit in BnS makes it way more worth the time. Vindictus just keeps going down hill anyways.

Also it comes out in 3 weeks and it'll be F2P.
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>>126354635
https://forums.bladeandsoul.com/forums/index.php?/topic/142278-blade-and-soul-is-being-censored-despite-them-previously-saying-otherwise/
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>>126354679
>censoring quests
Never mind, don't give a fuck.
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>>126354752
>Game is run by SWJs
Enjoy your cuckolding propaganda.
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>>126354791
>bouncing titties everywhere
>constant supply of obtainable slutty outfits
if this is what SJW is now sign me up
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>>126354905
>Censoring the only thing keeping 95% of the playerbase over the game's bland gameplay
That's not how marketting works anon.
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>>126354985
You're in a very small minority of players who give a fuck about quests like that. A very small, very pathetic minority.

>Bland Gameplay
>Thinking combat in Vindictus isn't bland as shit now
>mfw
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>>126355235
I bet you also watch fox news
>Vindictus is bland
>Compared to a semi point n click gameplay
alright buddy
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>>126355310
>2015
>Still glorifying Vindictus' combat
>Game is outdated and outdone in every way
>Still crying
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>>126355378
Dude, for however bad you say Vindictus' combat is, Tera 2.0 is worse. You're literally just trying to peddle a waifu simulator, and I've seen enough uncanny valley from BnS that the waifu simulator side of it isn't enough. If Vindictus' combat is that bland, what does that make BnS'? Absolute garbage? That's not really something that would grab people.
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>>126355378
>Still glorifying hidden WoW copy with tits and asses
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>>126355498
Vindictus combat isn't bad, it's just not as infallible as you guys like to claim it is. I've played Vindictus since alpha. It's outclassed. Vindictus' combat doesn't compensate for how bad literally everything else about the game is. Not even the waifus people shill over are good anymore.

There's a reason Vindictus has a tiny niche fanbase and it's not because everyone else has shit taste or it's just misunderstood. It's fucking bad.

BnS is one of the biggest games in Korea, if you honestly think the combat is Tera 2.0 you're more than likely another dude on v who doesn't bother to play the games they bitch about. You can try to reason away all the mountains of shit piled on Vindictus but you're really only gimping yourself by shilling a game that's dead in the water.
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>>126355740
>BnS is one of the biggest games in Korea
So is Vindictus. Your point?
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Is this cat meant to be real one or a plush

inb4 ded
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>>126354403
>good outfits
Fuck those one piece shits.
They sure look nice though.
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I just want to get into gale kick fights with Hellish Handmaidens

Why won't these hounds leave me alone
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>>126355740
As >>126355896 pointed out, BnS being "one of the biggest games in Korea" means jack squat as Vindictus also runs that same circle. As for "most likely another dude blah blah blah", I'm actually speaking out of buyers remorse. I got suckered into the hype and thought that maybe just maybe BnS would be the escape from Vindictus that I very sorely craved. But the way things are going I'm more likely better off learning japanese and moving there in order to play DDO with a decent connection.
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>>126356517
It moves around
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>>126355740
The people who jerk off Vindictus' combat are the people who've stayed with the game for like 5 years, it's just their biased opinion.

Vindictus is actually very shallow and one dimensional when you get down to it. Very little interactivity compared to DMC and Bayo.
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>>126354791
You do realize Vindictus has censored content too, right?

SQ Outfitter was a big one.
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>>126357812
>This one MMO is shallow compared to these single player games
>Play this other MMO instead which is even more shallow
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>>126357875
What was censored with the SQ outfitter?
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>>126357875
SQ outfitter was also censored in the original version.
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someone who hasn't played in a while

is Hurk still one of the top or is he garbage now?
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>>126359012
Middle tier with arisha
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>>126359849
thanks
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>>126357936
I wouldn't say other MMOs are shallow, it's just that they have different gameplay mechanics.

It's like comparing a turn based game to DMC.

Like, what's the point even?
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>>126360573
>Point and click tab targetting
R E V O LU T I O N A R Y
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>>126360971
Never said it was revolutionary, boyo. Thanks for proving my point though.
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>>126360971
Sometimes, these forums are gold.
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>Simple gameplay is bad
>Ayy lmao waifus are better

I'd give BDO a chance if I could run it but fuck everything else I've had people telling me to switch to for the past couple years.

/vindig/ - jump ship with me general
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>>126361858
>Can't run BDO
>The same game that has minimal graphics settings that put it on more potato than Vindictus without altering configs

Nah.
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>>126359012
TOP EDGE
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>>126357812
>people who've stayed with the game for like 5 years, it's just their biased opinion
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>>126364113
>people actually believe that they're not trying to justify staying with their shit game for years
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>some people are planning to play BnS when NCSoft are planning to lock up one of the most if not the most important feature of the game behind premium membership
I don't see the point in going to a jew publisher to another, even if BnS isn't so bad NCSoft is 100% sure to screw it all up.
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>>126355740
I paid $150 for the BnS founder's pack, played through two beta weekends, then promptly asked for a refund because the game IS Tera 2.0.

>but you're really only gimping yourself by shilling a game that's dead in the water
The only one doing any kind of shilling is you. Instead of shitposting here you should go back to /BnS/ and try to keep it alive this time.
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>>126255508
awesome
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>>126364683

But everyone can queue for the arena.
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>>126364291
>people actually belive that if you stay in a game for 5 years it's not that everything else is shittier
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>>126361858
BDO is openworld vindictus

bns a shit, ncsoft can just go bankrupt
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>>126364291
not trying to justify anything

apart from nexon's management of the game and devs current incompetence with the content and balancing, the game and combat mechanic stands out from your average point and click mmos, and it's well made in it's fundamentals

now we can see several possible competitors, but those are still closer to wow and wow-alikes
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>people still trying to argue that all the other gook MMOs are better games than vindictus

sure, I mean it might do a lot of things better than vindictus does, but the combat in every single one of these games is outdated garbage, and that alone makes this game stand out as the best choice in my opinion
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>>126367309
This. It isn't as depthy as single player action games like DMC and Bayo, but it's the farthest people have gone in turns of a pseudo MMO action game. PSO2 is trying but it's just not there, though if it was it just wouldn't feel like the RPG side of PSO
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>>126364936

>refunded master pack and bought a physical copy of JP BnS for $50
>it comes with a free code for an outfit and art book

It's $125 for the NA master pack though, and most of the stuff in there are jack shit outside of the NC coins which heavily bloats the value if you took it out. As for the outfit, the only one that's unique to the NA server is the cowboy one, the other one is already available in the other servers.

>>126367309

>the combat in every single one of these games is outdated garbage
>every mmorpg available now are either tab combat or semi-action combat with a shit ton of handholding
>any new "challenging" combat systems are either coordination based and are always for raid bosses, but gets repetitive and boring once your purpose of fighting is to speedrun for that rare/unique accessory/item that drops at a 0.00001% rate
>tfw tired of all of these systems and have no vidya to settle into the near future

VR combat when?
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>FOTM Korean MMO shitposter tries to shill their game
>People point out the combat is garbage
>Some random retard runs in and brings up DMC

Everytime
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>>126371427
I bet it's the same retard from a couple threads back. The one that thinks it's more skillful to have moves that stunlock the boss and shit on it with KURAZY KOMBOS for 10 seconds at a time.
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>>126371427
Back to /wfg/ with you
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>Vindictuscucks always shitting on any game that isn't Vindictus
>First it was Tera
>Then it was FFIV
>Now it's BnS
>Soon it'll been BDO

You guys are almost as bad as ToS general and that's only because they also nostalgia shitpost.
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>>126374234
>First it was Tera
>Then it was FFIV
>Now it's BnS
>2 of them are shitty point and click
>one of them is shitty """"action"""" game
Gee I wonder why
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>>126374234
I don't even know why people bother shilling other games in this dead general, must be dumb as bricks.
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>>126374234
>one of these is not like the others
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>>126374234
>Comes claiming vindi is shit
>Gets told his games are shit
>BUT WHY YOU GUYS ARE SHITTING ON MY GAMES
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>>126374607
Probably to get a rise out of you.
Apparently, it worked.

>>126374653
>>126374734
+shy
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>>126374234
You mean faggots come in here and try to shit on Vindi and get completely ass hurt when people fire back

>>126374048
Yeah, I don't understand this shit at all. Games like DMC and Bayo aim for an entirely different flow of combat along with enemy and boss design before even taking into account the fact that its a single player game. I can't imagine ever going into something like /mhg/ and shitposting about all the things some random action games like Shinobi or Ninja Gaiden do "better".
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>>126376263
Oh yeah they sure got a rise out of me.
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>>126374234
That's because this game's combat is really unique and hasn't been replicated in any other MMO. If it has everyone would have jumped ship already.

>Tera
combat system is a bit similar, but only in some melee classes like warrior and the new brawler (who plays like cestus karok). Ranged classes just have lockon spells or ground AOE spells. Elinfags everywhere is annoying as fuck

>FF14
A tab targeting game with a fucking 2.5 sec gcd, how does anyone even play this shit?

>BnS
soft lock targeting and moving around while casting skills similar to GW2. It's different but they managed to make their combat work with 1v1 pvp. I'm still going to try it when it comes out next month

>BDO
combat is similar but the mobs and bosses are dumb as fuck. It's like fighting polar bear boss with 100 million hp. Has decent dressup at least
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pc/starlight es
West
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>>126376524
>You mean faggots come in here and try to shit on Vindi and get completely ass hurt when people fire back
I doubt they care since it all boils down to opinions. The only idiots are the ones claiming CD/hotkey based genres are worse than Vindi and vice versa considering they're two different gameplay styles.
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God you're all massive faggots
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>>126381470
thanks, you too
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the "being hit" sound is fucking annoying now when blocking attacks with Arisha
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>>126381749
And Little Rat/Windstep with Lynn
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>Did a Glas with my new Hagie
>Whole party ended up being on the floor all the time except one Scythie and me
>Ended up carrying,doing 70% of the boss just the two of us
Well,those were some fun 30 minutes though.At least no one got an orange,would've been mad if one of them got it.

/blog,subscribe plz
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I joined up some of the skybox textures in Vindictus.
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>>126384584
>Glas
>orange
???
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>>126388316
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>>126388364
probably meant ancient glas
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>>126388482
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>>126388650
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>>126388827
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>>126388364
>>126388621
Yeah,should've specified,i meant Ancient Glas.
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>>126389128
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>>126389319
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>>126389502
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http://www.gamenote.com/rank_ongame/index.php?search_mode=weekly

>Mabinogi Heroes - #8
>BnS - #18
>Tera - #36
>FF14 - #52
>BDO - #86
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>>126388316
gimme some Prairie Entrance, that's the best
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>>126391767
Any idea why BDO is so low?
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>>126392462
I read about it and apparently during each alpha they removed everything that made the game unique to appeal to a wider audience until there was nothing left, im pretty sure it's gonna bomb everywhere.
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>>126392462
Don't know but B&S is usually higher and Vindi is lower. I think this particular week is skewed since Delia just got released so everyone's is rushing back to Vindi to try her out.
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>>126391767
>"BnS is one of the biggest games in Korea guise!"
>Not even in the top 10

BnSfags BTFO
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>>126394652
Too bad Nexon is too retarded to make Vindictus really work here.
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>>126398005
>>126394652
BnS is usually top 10, check the other weeks, also >>126393750
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>>126398005
You have to think that they don't really have a bot problem in Korean because of the social security number system. The healthier economy must make a game that's more fun to play for sure.
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Haven't played in a year and thinking of coming back, how good is this new bieber looking motherfucker?
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>tfw no christmas with ingkells
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>>126391767
kek ncsoft still clinging to lineage
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>>126407223
Just like nexon did to maplestory :^)
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Hey faggots,

Have a great Christmas. +best
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staff vs xgun which is cheaper to fund?
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>>126410585
Well INT stuff just shot up in price cuz Haggis.
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>>126399582
BTFO
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>>126412318
fuk haggi
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>>126399582
Are you trying to say that numbers 11 to 17 all released new characters too like Vindictus did to make BnS drop out? That's highly doubtful.
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Wew lad
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>>126414978
>wtf do I do with my hands?

she'd be better off cosplaying as evie
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>>126414334
Not really sure what happened with B&S. It was #5 on the list until 1st week of December when it fell like 13 spots to #18. Shitty update or pvp season ended or something? I don't follow the game
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When's a good event guys
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>>126418969
>Instead of golden time we got gachas that not only seem to have the worst rates so far but included an outfit sold freely on other servers
>The ultimate objective boxes wont just straight up have a chance to get good items and instead you'll have to open 30 of them to get a scroll that may be worth money
>Rehashing the forge outfit and calling it "new"

Probably never, Nexon more than likely is just planning all the shit they can make people gamble for as long as pic related exists
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>>126413138
He'd prob enjoy it desu senpai.
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>>126420507
I never got people that threw away half their paychecks for gachas
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>>126379337
How about you give that to me for free senpai :^)
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>>126414978
That vid was pretty seizure inducing.
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>>126420507
I suspect that Vindictus is nearing the end of its lifespan in NA, which is why Nexon is pushing out so many cash-shop events these days to milk it dry. They did the same with DFO a year before it went it under.
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>>126421308
Someone who's willing to spend that much at once probably either has it saved up or make so much that $500 is pocket change.
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>>126415593

It's getting updates at a snail's pace iirc, so pretty much everyday is daily + the occasional copper bidding wars.

There's also a warlock class that's coming out iirc, but it's locked to Jins as well as the fact that it's basically a rehash of summoner and FM.

>>126420507

>$750 down the drain for gambling on digital pixels

He could've just waited for some lucker to sell the outfit and paid them $30-50 instead. Unless nexon made the outfit pack untradable or something, then that's just retarded.
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>>126423452
You'd be surprised at how wrong you are.
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>>126423248
This is a literal carbon copy of the same gachapon in Korea, and Mabinogi Heroes is doing just fine in Korea. Vindictus' lifespan will end when Mabinogi Heroes lifespan ends, because it costs almost nothing to run Vindictus NA.
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>>126423860

>He could've just waited for some lucker to sell the outfit and paid them $30-50 instead. Unless nexon made the outfit pack untradable or something, then that's just retarded.

Not only are some of them apparently unable to be traded but I have seen absolute jack shit for system messages pop up for the outfits. I'm seeing a pretty decent amount of messages for the other garbage that supposedly is part of the "two percent" so I don't think its people not buying a shit ton of these, the rates seem complete booty for the outfits.
>>
>>126423452
Gambling is an addiction, it has nothing to do with your income.
>>
Dunno why people think BDO is an open world Vindictus, of you've played it you can clearly tell it's way clunkier than Vindictus.

Vindictus plays a lot like Dynasty Warriors with an RPG element to me, and no other game has even come close to replicating it.
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>>126423887
Not like you could prove it in this instance.

>>126424503
Unless he spends that much for every gatcha, it's not an addiction. He just really wants that outfitter.
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>>126423926
>Vindictus' lifespan will end when Mabinogi Heroes lifespan ends, because it costs almost nothing to run Vindictus NA.
Yes, because that's what happened to DFO +haha
>>
dedest thread.

Merry Christmas everyone.
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>>126436829
Merry Christmas faggots.
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>>126441712
Y-You too.

Merry Christmas!+shy
>>
Dear god,the desert area/quests must be the worst part of the whole game.
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>>126445639
Desert quests aren't that bad, it's misty summit that's horrible, especially when they railroad you onto some path that doesn't lead directly to the area you need.
>>
Merry ded christmas scrubz :^)
>>
Finished S1, so who's the actual god of the Fomors? Is it Elchulus or whatever Keaghan turned into?
>>
>>126448667
The god of fomors is Cichol,the thing Keaghan turned into,yes.
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>>126448667
Cichol, the guy Keaghan turned in to. Elchulus is the god of time or something.
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>>126450106
>>126450169
So why's Ancient Elchulus' mission called "The God of Fomors"?
>>
>>126450465
Well,i'm guessing it could be some sort of mistranslation or something.Never really cared about those raids since they're not canon (i think) so they probably gave them a name that just sounded cool.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFn3f1ZGANQ

Merry Christmas /vindg/ +heart
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>>126447429
It's even worse because Misty Summit stories remove all ore and luminary tree nodes.
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Is there any fast travel method for Arisha other than spamming dodge?
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Any word on Delia's bust size? I'm hoping for Arisha levels if buoyancy but would settle for vella.
>>
>>126454859
Do people actually buy things like the calendar that's part of? I'd feel like such a fucking creep having something like that just hanging on my wall.
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>>126458239
Spam Dodge+Grab for really fast but gets messed up by latency easily or Dodge+first normal for slower but more reliable.
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>>126454859
>that shitty looking iset outfit
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>>126459538
thanks
with normal tried, with grab haven't yet

i had a guess there must be something because i see other arishas doing some kind of spinning motion while dodging (and the sound is different too maybe?)
>>
>>126454859
Nice,where's the male version though?
>>
>>126414978
Where are the others ones?
pls anon
I'll erp with you
>>
Please help.

The last few days, randomly when trying to launch boats it hangs and I get "Server Response Delayed" which kicks everyone back out to the docks. This will persist for an unknown period of time before letting me play again.

How the fuck do I get around this?
>>
>>126467219
Turn off multi-core
>>
>>126467760
It's never been on. Seems like it was only affecting 1 or 2 battles, hopefully it dies down later.
>>
>>126466880
>>126454859
>>
>>126467219
had similar problem, restarting windows helped for a while until it began it again
>>
>>126468401
There's a lot more than that
(facebook) (com)/TNTCoolG/posts/563995907084528
I want every single one of them on webm.
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>>126470729
Please anon
>>126468401
>>126414978
I will virtually suck your penis
>>
>>126462836
Yeah, that's the dodge+grab
>>
How hard is it to get a KR account? I want to try Delia
>>
>>126474072

If it's anything like making a Korean account for any other game it's a huge fucking pain in the ass. You need a Korean Social Security Number, and then sometimes they want to text you some shit to a Korean phone.
>>
>>126474072
Its easy if you have lots of disposable income but it won't get you a test account.
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Merry Christmas Vindictus general! May our dead game have a long and tedious release schedule in the new year.
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Merry christmas, everyone.
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For >>126392358
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Merry Christmas motherfuckers
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So,i was going through the armor sets for the titles and i have to say,Chiulin armor is still one of the best looking ones in the game.Too bad they seem to make them TOO overloaded lately.
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>>126490402
Definitely one of the best looking sub-70 set.
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>>126484617
can we get more vindi wallpapers?
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Is anyone on east selling NX
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Don't die on me
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Delia can't come soon enough. Keep bouncing between Arisha and Scythe Evie to get the feel
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>tfw computer has gone completely to shit
>taskbar nonresponsive and also empty
>file explorer can't open pictures
>can't run anything as administrator
>can't change settings for boot methods
>everything now has to be done by run commands or shortcuts on desktop
>but vindictus still runs just fine :^)
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>>126488090
>NA finally gets this outfit after KR had it for years
>censored
>lynn only

still mad.
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>>126508523
>that face
+barf
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>The year is going to end without S3E4 releasing

Come on, I bet they have the entire episode already in the game's files.
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Worth it to use my last 6k nx on those outfitter boxes?
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Do want.
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>>126517091
I hate that they made it as a head piece not as a hair.
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>>126501151
u have a virus/malware
>>
>>126409540
i want to ring those bells hard
>>
>dat second face from the left
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>>126527417

That every face
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>>126527417
>tfw NFA used to do maido raid trains
>>
Yo guys. Would Vindictus be the kind of game that im looking for?

I like strong end-game PvE feature, Solid crafting-housing, slow progressing (That doesnt take 30 hours to get to max level... At least 9-12 months), at least okay graphics.
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>>126529017
>I like strong end-game PvE feature
lol
>Solid crafting-housing
lol
>slow progressing
lol
>at least okay graphics
yeah the graphics are okay
if you're not looking for good gameplay(for a mmo) or good dressup(if you spend $$$) it's likely not the game for you
>>
How can such a good looking game with good combat be so deaD?
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>>126530095

Poor marketing
Long breaks between content patches
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Damn you Nexon, i wanted to buy only that skirt from the field set
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>>126530181
Can a community fix a companies problems?
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>>126517091
is this from some anime event?

prob. we wont get it then ;_;
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>>126530095
shit endgame content, nothing to do outside of raids at endgame
no real pvp/gvg
no open world shenanigans
no guild housing
nothing to craft other than weapon/armor
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>Someone put me in their NFA HoF

S-such an honor! ... I-I g-guess..
>>
ImTooBeast from the East server.
>>
ded
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>>126535528
Dude we're past the bump limit already.
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>>126535634
Where is the new thread then smart guy.
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it's ded, let it die in peace
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