/fgog/ - Fate/Grand Order General

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1st for waifufags are autists and jack is best waifu

Which servants make great use of B. Holy Grail?

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Would Spider-man beat Lancelot? Discuss.

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Fuck the shitposting in the last thread, post waifu's

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Waiting for the day that I can marry and grail ascend this clown.

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xth for 2 for 1 deal

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>>125642005
If this is what autism is like then I'm autistic as fuck

>>125642041
Santa Alter might be one of the best, once she actually comes out, since her NP hits hard and she has a heal.

>>125642048
ded waifu

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Every thread until I roll him.

>>125642115
The bunny getup does things to my dick.

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>>125642048

>>125642047

To be honest probably. If spiderman had the power of normal servants he'd be a 5 star.

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ASTOLFO THREAD

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>>125642047

I can't wait for the fic to get posted; no matter who wins the shitstorm will be unrivaled.

>>125642187
>>125642047
Are you fucking serious? Lancelot could kill superman in real life, let alone spiderman.

So seeing as no one answered my question. How would Kintoki do in a Fuyuki Grail War?

>>125642378
Go read the previous thread

>>125642371
Fuyuki system generally doesn't allow for Eastern heroes.

>>125642371
(You)

>>125642336
But we know Cu's going to win because the author has no profesionalism/integrity and is biased as fuck

>>125642378
I'm sure he'd be alright, I personally think Lancelot would do much much better, like he did in Zero.

>>125642461
Meant to quote >>125642378

>>125642205
What's the point of showing him now if we're not even gonna fight him?

>>125642136
>alter riding nping without kaleidoscope
Top lel

>>125642047
Honestly, almost certainly. Spider-Man is more agile, a fighter of equal skill with the power of precognition on his side, and A+++ tier in strength, when measured in Fate terms. Even with Arondight Lancelot simply doesn't have a chance of hitting Spidey.

Post polygamist castration fist

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>>125642187
Spider-man's stats translated directly into servant terms, would make him about a B rank servant or so.

Unless he was given a conceptual boost of some type due to fame.

However summoning him in Japan can give you potentially four variants upon himself that range quite heavily in style.

Rider = Spider-man with mecha Leodon
Lancer = Komori Yu
Archer = Spider-man J

I forget the other one.

Komori has a decent NP, but his luck is basically ten times worse than Peter Parker's, at minimum. If this story went on for another volume, then his luck would put Angya Manyu to shame entirely.

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What do Scatmen see in their waifu?

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>>125642173

>>125642643
>A+++ tier strength
You dont know how ranking works do you?

>>125642638
It's not that hard to her to NP if you have at least five other Arts cards in the deck.

>>125642371
>lancelot beating superman
You cannot be this deluded.
>lancelot beating spiderman
Depends which version

>>125642536
Where are you even getting that idea from? You keep saying that but I haven't seen anything that sounds particularly biased coming from him.

>>125642706
A prayer that Grail Ascension or her interlude will show some tiny fragment of hope of any kind of bond

>>125642378
He is a shit tier Servant lorewise. He would get stomped.

>>125642759
From every single one of his updates?

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>>125642706
>I like spears
>I like bodysuits
>I like strong women

>>125642759
His waifu doesn't automatically win, ergo it is biased.

Which versions of spiderman can lancelot beat?
Only ones I'm sure of is the first movie trilogy spidermans

>>125642753
>in real life
Did you seriously fall this hard for such obvious bait?

>>125642738
Pluses are usually conditional but I don't really know how else to categorize it unless I were to just say he has EX Strength outright. He's WAY beyond 50x a human's strength.

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>>125642519
>(You)
Nope

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Would Batman beat Lancelot? Discuss.

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>>125643001

>>125642753
Why couldn't lancelot win? Honestly one of the best/perfect servants in the anime, and in the game they had to make him weak, if it were realistic no other server would stand a chance. He cal literally use any weapon crafted by man or god, he's basically a fucking god.

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>>125643001

>>125643000
You dont know how strong most servants are do you?

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>>125642692
This manga is a fucking experience for the reader, that can never be entirely described.

Its like as each volume goes on, logic is lost, suffering is increased beyond limits, and it slowly descends into a drug trip with no breaks on the train and no escape anymore. He doesn't save anyone, they either die, are raped, or worse. Sometimes he has to try to kill them himself, since they're better off that way rather than living in this story anymore where they will only suffer.

There's no way to really understate the level of rape here, but the story basically becomes Devilman by volume three.

>>125643009
Batman has god tier level plot armour so he would win 100/100 times.
Or have you forgotten batman beating all of the justice league by himself?

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>>125642378
I already answered you last thread m8 but whatever, I'll do it again.

Kintoki's stats in GO are decent.

>A+ STR
>B END
>B AGI
>C MAN
>C LUK

So that's already pretty decent. However, in a Grail War, he gets one rare advantage; he's Japanese and popular in Japan. If Nobunaga's stats in GO are anything to go by, the boost is a rank up to all parameters (her parameters in GO are a direct rank down from Koha Ace). Meaning that in a Fuyuki Grail War, his actual parameters would be:

>A++ STR
>A END
>A AGI
>B MAN
>B LUK

In other words, in a straight fight, he'd be able to hold his own against Arturia. He'd be a nightmare to fight in an open battle. He'd be able to kill Herc at least once for sure, but Godhand would fuck him over in the end.

Then you factor in Monstrous Strength, and the truth is anything he hit would either be dead or seriously wounded.

There are several Servants who could beat him in an actual Grail War, and he's far from a sure thing, but he'd definitely be a serious contender.

>>125643073
If you're about to tell me that A rank strength means a Servant can swing trains around or hold up entire buildings, I just want you to know that I'm going to laugh at you. A lot.

>>125643061
Neither Superman or Spiderman use weapons.

>>125643000
EX strength is planet breaker

A++ Strength along is 150x peak human limits.

Spider-man is not that strong. He can lift ten tons at most.

>>125643009
Batman is cool and all, he could probably beat spiderman, but never ever could he beat Lancelot. Lancelot is still just too good. I don't think anyone could really stand a chance against him.
>>125643061
Basically covered why Lancelot will never lose, and is TRULY unrivaled.

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>>125643009

>>125643178
There's a good example right above you

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>>125642862

>>125643228
>>125643219
>>125643061
This is bait right?

>Anti jetfags at it again
Just stop, nobody is this retarded

>>125643314
Yes.

>>125643385
No.

>>125643314
No one in the thread can disprove Lancelot being the best servant, so until that happens my opinion(fact) stays.

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I love how much she wants to become a better person. I don't deserve such perfection. Liz is the best.

>>125643429
Maybe

>>125643319
>muh bogeyman
Jetfags are cancer, face it.

>>125642041
Carmilla, Santa Alter, Pirate Sluts

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>>125643084
Japanese High Schools are a strange place

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If you summon from here you either get a 5* or Kirei

>>125643156
>In other words, in a straight fight, he'd be able to hold his own against Arturia.
>He'd be able to kill Herc at least once for sure
Holy shit, I didn't know obnoxious Kintokifags existed.

>>125643474
>no period at the end
fuck off

>>125643456
>>125643385
Ah okay thats what I thought. I'll just ignore it then. I should really get around to getting 4chanx so I can start filtering shit like "lancelot" or "unrivaled"

>>125643456
Upvoted.

>>125643084
What? Is this really the Spider-man manga?

>>125643456
>best servant
Good luck against buddha :^)

>>125642626
A teaser for the next event or London

But really DW probably couldn't finish him in time

>>125643456
>jetfags are this delusional

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>>125643061
>if it were realistic no other server would stand a chance
There are some Servant ingame that can. Attila, Scathach, George, Vlad and now Chaika, for example. There are more but those are just the few that came to mind.

>>125643219
>I don't think anyone could really stand a chance against him.

>>125643554
wait theres karma here like on reddit?

and this whole time i thought place sucked.... haha

>>125643541
Periods belong at the end of sentences, not at the end of single word statements.

>>125643593
The Spider-Man manga is fucking insane. It has zero resemblance to anything else in the character's history and is basically the writer going "FUCK IT I WANTED TO WRITE A HORROR STORY CENTERED AROUND RAPE" and slapping a Spider-Man coat of paint on it.

>>125643523
Can I get a 5* Kirei?

>>125643524
Since when has simply stating facts been considered obnoxious?

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Reposting event currency total costs for new thread.

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Every thread until Astolfo

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>>125643651

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How overpowered would this guy be if he was summoned as a Berserker? And can Lancelot take him?

>>125643760
Won't be many threads then

>>125643780
Extremely and no.

>>125643780
I dont know m8, I mean, he can kill the creator of the univer with his punches alone, would he be overpowered?

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>>125643456
>No one in the thread can disprove Lancelot being the best servant
He faces the same problem that 99% of the current Servants have.

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>>125643651

>>125643780
lancelot can LITERALLY use every weapon ever made lol. anything that was made to beat him lancelot could use. jesus you people are so dumb

>>125643692
None of those are facts. There's nothing literally backing up that headcanon. All you did was write autistic fanfiction.

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>>125643809
After that it will be just every thread.

>>125643919
>lol

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>>125643678
No, the first few volumes really were a Spider-man story, but as things went along, there was a cultural shift that the author tries to capitalize on which led to an interesting outcome for this manga.

The decade influences stories at times, and there's a real story how this one ended up that way.

It started out fairly normal though.

lmao guys stop trying to triforce

>>125643919
Now the problem is getting the weapon.

I know people at the japanese studios for this game and they confirmed that lancalot is statistically the best serpent

>>125643524
Never of those things are anything special.

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>>125643919

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Spiderman is literally god anyone who disagrees is a fucking idiot

>>125644051
lady of the lake m8

>>125643953
>lol
okay kid. when lancelots power is so he's a masster of any weapon.. he can use any weapon at maximum skill, he knows how to.

Say he was fighting spider man, he'd use a weapon designed to beat spiderman mlike krptonite or whatever, being LANCELOT he's already a master of that weapon, he doesnt have to learn shit, he's a master.

Truly unrivaled

>>125644087
Doesn't change the fact that the autistic faggot is still wanking Kintoki as "DA BESTEST SERVANT EVAH"

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Post Rooms

>>125643930
>headcanon
Great way of guaranteeing that nobody is going to take your post seriously, you fucking retarded autist.

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>>125644208
>kryptonite
Okay. Can we stop replying to this guy now?

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>>125644208

>>125644227
True all I'm saying is those are some weak feats.

>>125644312
>WAAAAAH HE CALLED MY AUTISTIC FANFICTION WHAT IT IS
>NO UR AN AUTIST WAAAAAAH
Fuck off back to Reddit.

>>125644247
>confession
That he was wearing a vibrator all this time`?

So on the topic of whaling

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=189264983 <-- Did this actually happen?

Summary of it is that somebody seemed to have started a fundraiser to raise 10000$ to max out Scathach. I like to think that this looks questionable

are you guys really that bored

>>125644247
>Confession
Looks more like she regretfully has to kill you

>>125644320
haha i meant superman.. my bad.
Just because i fuck up doesn't mean its a bait you fucking autist

>>125644384
>>125644398
ITS ALL UP TO INTERPRETATION

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>>125644247
Christmas Liz never

>>125644227
Actually I specifically stated
>There are several Servants who could beat him in an actual Grail War, and he's far from a sure thing, but he'd definitely be a serious contender.
Just thought I'd speak up. Continue on.

>>125644389
The 500k happened, yeah. He even uploaded pics of the money and the recipe to his twitter account.

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>>125644247
You can't see it, but there's 2 pillows in the back.

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Spiderman would beat superman in a fight

How would Mary&Anne do in a real grail war?

>>125644486
CARROT POSTER

>>125644382
Fuck off, jetfaggot. We all know it's you.

Hey guys whats an easy dungeon to farm Saber Pieces in?

If there was any doubt of how obnoxious and retarded Lancelot fans are, this thread should clear it up. If only this thread was earlier in the day when people are awake so they can see this.

>>125644520
Well he did beat superboy once so... yeah

>>125644520
but neither of them would beat lancelot so lol

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>>125644247
>>125644486
Valentine's Liz would be great.

>>125644534
>muh boogeyman
Holy autism

>>125644497
I thought I told you to fuck off back to Reddit, autist.
>>125644534
Nice falseflag bro, but I can see you being Jetfag.

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>>125642047
My money though, Spiderman is the best.

>>125644521
Hard to say. We don't actually know what their NP even does. If I had to guess, maybe it makes one stronger if the other is in life-threatening danger, but that's speculation.

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This is not a comfy thread

>>125644509
Man...I dont know if its true love, true dedication or true autism

...Japanese whales can get on a new level of crazy

>>125644550
Who do you like huh? Who's your favorite servant, the only reason they'd ever beat lancelot is if he was never summoned by the grail. Prove me wrong.

How the fuck did one post about Kintoki derail the entire fucking thread?

>>125644705
Who cares? All you are doing is being annoying with your immature ass posting style and cock sucking of a shitty ass character. No one wants you here. Go back to reddit, gaia, /b/, or whatever other shithole you came from.

HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS HELP I FORGOT ON HOW TO OPEN THE DOOR AGAIN

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>>125642048
Spiderman is top tier waifu

>>125644732
anti-jet shitposter is at it again. Talking about in real life, reddit, and Lancelot beating Superman makes it obvious.

>>125644732
I remember when ">Male Master" derailed the threads too

>>125644732
It's simple. Jetfags get triggered by him as they know that Kintoki is better than Shit-a-lot in-game so they can't handle the fact that he might also be somewhat good lore-wise too.

>>125644820
I'm justy fucking stating my opinion, whats with you people hating lancelot fans? you're all so close fucking minded.. you talk about your shit waifus all day but i wanna take one minute to talk about lancelot and i get shit on...

fuck off.

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>>125644534
Jetfag 4 lyfe

>>125644845
Seems pretty pro-jet to me.

>>125644732
If I had to take a swing, for the longest time, one faction (gonna guess Jetfags) would let Kintoki being the best ingame Berserker go on the grounds of "he's super shit in a REAL grail war."

Then one autistic anon comes along and shows that no, in a Fuyuki war he'd actually be a pretty great roll. Fuyuki!Kintoki outclasses or at least matches Lancelot in everything except agility. So now the Jetfag must defend their territory.

>>125644845
>muh bogeyman
Holy autism.

>>125644845
what is this "anti-jet shitpsoter" meme?
everyone in this thread fucking hates the jet poster so how did this anti jet poster meme start?

>>125644845
>anti-jet shitposter
Fuck off, jetfag.

>>125644981
>No capitalization
>Using ellipsis
You obviously aren't from here, and no one wants you here. No one wants to read anything you post. Leave here and go end yourself promptly.

>>125645081
>>125645065
>>125645039
>>125645031
>All this samefagging
>Ironically enough the jet shitposting stops he moment it starts
Heh.

>>125645251
>samefagging
Fuck off, jetfag.

>>125644845
>blaming the boogeyman for anything ever done wrong
No m8, your fanbase of autistic UNRIVALLED screamers are just this autistic.
You are literally the same fanbase as a bunch of 5 year olds arguing that their favourite character wins

>>125645251
>what are post timers

>Hear about the initial wave of Jack-bashin
>I didnt really want Jack either initially, but I got her from gacha
>Put her up in the front for support for my friend list
>Realizes that she shits out tons of stars and is quite good

Maybe I underestimated her

>>125645335
>What are different devices

>>125645316
Sure it must be coincidence that it stopped now that you are going on full defense mode.

When you should reset the gatcha, after the apples and ticket?

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>>125644981
its O.K. deep breaths spiderman is here to comfort you

>>125645251
Incoming it was all done by one guy with lots of phones post

>>125645354
Every character that gets released is going to get shitposted and called awful. Don't take anything this thread says for granted.

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>>125645142
who cares where im from,. this is a fate go general. i play fate go, i wish to talk to you all, at least those with good taste

pic related, my lancelot :)

stay mad

>>125645420
or one guy and his 5 retarded friends am i right dylan? :^)

>>125645354
Jack has the highest star generation, but is subpar in everything else.
Even then NPQQ with Jack is about 53 stars and NPQQ with Jing Ke is about 43, and Jing has a skill that gives enough extra to go over 50.

>>125645065
Jetfags feel like they're targeted and its a conspiracy, they thought it was one guy who was out to get the, so they made up some "Anti-jetfag" boogeyman to explain away anyone criticizing them.

Anyone saying Lancelot is not the best is the Anti-jetfag, who just has a vendetta against them, and can therefore be ignored.

Telltale marks of the anon who always talks about this boogeyman, is usually he'll mention something like "Hah, I knew it was the anti-jetfag again trying to fuck with us, he's always doing this. I can't believe he once said that Achillesfags and Jetfags were the same, this is what he actually believes, he's retarded, we Jetfags are the real heroes here, while ___fags are the worst"

For some reason he has some autistic understanding he always brings up where he thinks anyone who says something against Lancelot is the same guy, and he thinks that same guy lobbies about how Achillesfags and Jetfags are the same.

Now its just become a weird meme where he'll always say "Its the anti-jetfag at it again, he's the real one ruining the thread"

If a Jetfag is also shitposting a lot, they also push that off onto "Well its really the anti-jetfag trying to make us look bad by false-flagging". They created this boogeyman meme to give them deniability no matter what about their shit. No one can criticize them without it being this samefag villain, and no shitty Jetfag poster can exist without it being this samefag villain.

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>>125645472

>people think lancelot isn't UNRIVALED and can't beat superman

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I can't wait for them to add Puri Puri Prisoner to this game, he is my favorite character.

Another thread, another proof why jetfags are subhumans.

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>>125645472

>>125645487
>implying a jetfag could have friends

>>125645501
Seems perfect for a trio of Okita, Scathach and Jack though

They all can use the stars well

>>125645503
>autistic Gilfag was anti-jetfag all along
Who would have guessed.

>>125645354
Jack generates almost 50 stars unassisted with a QBC. And no one seems to want to point out the fact that she generates almost half of her fucking NP gauge with the same QBC, still unassisted by CEs or anything.

>>125645503
>talking logic with fgog
Just give up, jetfags are in their own little delusional world.
You don't argue with the retarded kid so you don't argue with jetfags

>>125645601
I like Atalanta with them better depending on the fight. You get less star gen overall but you get an AoE NP and an additional quick buff for NP chains

>>125644696
The worst part is that it's not even his money.

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AND STILL NO TICKET
My luck in this gatcha manages to be worse than in the normal one

>>125645503
lol i was going to take you seriously, but Gil is a piece of shit, who lancelot would fuck up.

watch zero ;) [.spoiler]

>>125645032
The funny thing is I never even weighed in on the fight.

Honestly in a fight between the two in a Grail War fight, I think Kintoki would lose, but Lancelot would have to use Arondight. Lancelot has no other tricks up his sleeve other than "really fucking good at fighting" like Arturia has with an Excaliblast, so crazy high parameters are his bread and butter, meaning he's in deep trouble against someone who severely overshadows him parameter wise. That being said, because of Kintoki's crazy high STR + Monstrous Strength in a Grail War, I don't see Lancelot's armor helping him too much if Kintoki gets a good hit in with that axe and I honestly could not say with 100% certainty "Lancelot would survive."

That's my take on it anyway.

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>>125645648
Yeah its true. I just wish that others would realize that and just straight up not reply to another involving Lancelot that isn't about this game in specific. Any lore related shit with that faggot should straight up be ignored.

>>125645681
Just realized i cant do rolls higher than one because the only thing left is the ticket...

gilermesh is better than lancelot. prove me wrong. wait.. you can't :))

>>125645503
>Anyone saying Lancelot is not the best is the Anti-jetfag
>If a Jetfag is also shitposting a lot, they also push that off onto "Well its really the anti-jetfag trying to make us look bad by false-flagging".
Contradicted yourself right there antijetautist. Why would there be any need to blame others for shitposting if they think anyone who doesn't think Lancelot is unrivaled is anti-jetfag? According to you, they don't think they are shitposting, right? Then what you are saying doesn't make sense.

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>reading HF
>Shinji's backstory
Zouken a shit.

A SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT.

>>125645813
and you cant prove gils better so, fuck off gilfaggot.

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Why is Vlad such a best?
Which of the girls would constitute his harem?

>>125645878
Autism incarnate

>>125645857
Zouken generally ruins everything

However he too is a guy that once wanted to be the hero, before he forgot everything and lived too long, as he ended up becoming the villain.

Batman proves correct again

>>125645729
Holy shit fuck off.
>Lancelot would have to use Arondight.
Are you fucking kidding me? No he wouldn't. Not even GILGAMESH could make him use Arondight, what fucking makes you think Kintoki could?
>Lancelot has no other tricks up his sleeve other than "really fucking good at fighting"
Yeah, because being able to hijack jets and shit isn't a good trick.
>That being said, because of Kintoki's crazy high STR + Monstrous Strength in a Grail War, I don't see Lancelot's armor helping him too much if Kintoki gets a good hit in with that axe
Pretty sure that armor's a KoH'd Phantasm.
>I honestly could not say with 100% certainty "Lancelot would survive."
Pretty sure you're fucking retarded.
>That's my take on it anyway.
Good. Fuck off back to Reddit, autist.

>>125645681
>>125645801
That's some really shitty luck bruh.

>>125645824
What he is saying is the following
>Jetfag shitposts about "HAHA UNRIVALED THE BEST" bullshit
>People get annoyed and tell him to fuck off and stop shitposting
>Jetfag says it was this imaginary "anitjetfag" to get the heat off of him, to make himself seem like a victim and not look bad.

Did dumbing it down help you, you little retard?

>>125645729
>meaning he's in deep trouble against someone who severely overshadows him parameter wise
>could fight Gawain just fine for 3 hours
By the way + aren't ranks, just saying.

>>125645917
>best
>vlad

kek

>>125645065
It's what jetfag say so they can pretend that everyone likes them and everyone who calls them out on being a morons is just the same person it also a excuse to start arguments by saying any of their own autism is a antijetfag pretending to be them.

>>125645824
You are retarded. The twompoints have nothing to do with each other.
Ones about jetfags blaming everyone else who goes against jetfag autism as anti-jet and the other is about jetfags blaming anything they view as incorrectly done by themselves on anti-jet

Its like trying to say because the sky is blue, we should eat ice cream lel xd

>>125645857
This is why UBW is the best route. Happy endings for everyone.

>>125645878
okay but the same way religion works ur going to have to prove it isn't true and until then, it is. thanks for trying

So, suddenly I am reminded, would Kintoki get along well with Jack?

>>125645973
Except Sakura
And Ilya
And Rider
And Saber

>2 FUCKING MONTHS
>MONTHS
HOW THE FUCK CAN LANCELOT AUTISM GO ON FOR THIS LONG?
I'm beginning to think its all just one guy.

>>125645938
Agreed, Jetbro.

Lancelot is the perfect servant.
Lancelot was a Legend, he never died. Gil was real, he died.
Say a weapon was made to fight gil, Lancelot would master that shit and destroy gil. just sayin

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While we are at this is it safe to say that Scat > Gil. She is essentially his hard counter skill wise and can summon a helper servant too boot.

>>125645995
>In order for the battle to swing in Tokiomi’s favor…The other Servants must first defeat Berserker.

>>125645945
Oh right, I forgot about Gawain. Alright then, but I still stand by that Lancelot would have to use Arondight.

Also I thought the rules for +s were basically
>They aren't ranks until the base parameter is A, because we couldn't be assed to include S.

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>>125646115
She's also a cute.

>>125646109
>2 months
It was since he was released newfriend

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>>125646139
That rule never existed. What happens when ranking up above A is unknown right now, but we know 2 things. + aren't ranks when talking about parameters, and A = 50.

>>125645938
>not even gilgamesh could cause lancelot to use arondight
Because he loses koh when he uses it retard and koh +zerker stats is the only thing letting him even survive playing around gil.
Fucking secondary who knows jack shit.

>>125646271
Above A is EX, are you new here?

>>125645973
>Happy endings for everyone.

You serious, or just stupid?

Kuzuki, Medea, Lancer, Saber, Rider, Ilya, Sakura, Zouken, I could probably keep going. Each route basically has the same number of "You cannot protect everyone, there are fewer chairs for happiness than there are people", since that's an entire theme in the novel.

>>125646257
What is that creature's opinion on penises?

>>125646271
Right, A++ is 150, right?
>>125646356
So technically Kintoki's STR in a Fuyuki war would be EX then going by >>125646271?

>>125646356
Could be but until we have confirmation it's unknown and as much headcanon as the other options.

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>>125646408

>>125646453
Vaginas then?

>>125642115
Not sure what I've been doing this past hour.

I don't even like Siegfried.

Shirou summons Ado Edem instead of Arturia, what changes in the story?

>>125646437
+ aren't ranks. Kintoki STR is his A + whatever boost he gets from his abilities. The + only activate sometimes and only for a moment.

>>125646506
>censor dick
>not the nipples

>>125646448
No m8, its confirmed ex is so powerful its immeasurable.
If thats not above A than I don't know what is

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>>125646506

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>>125646495

>>125646515
Shirou traces Slash Emperor, all the bad guys fucking die.

>>125646557
Oh, I knew I was forgetting something. It can't be helped.

>>125646437
EX strength is planet breaker, it'd be A+++, thats the highest rank possible unless said whatever is being ranked is far above any measure, True Rider may have EX strength

>>125646557
Not that anon but I at first thought those were just more sweat

>>125646576
Don't dodge the question tiny potential lesbian

>>125646506
>lewding the sluts
Go on.

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>>125646139
>>125646437
>kintokifag gets told he's wrong
>he just rolls with it and asks their opinions
I have no clue why I'm laughing so hard.

>>125646563
It's a possibility, the one that is most logical right now, but it's unknown until Nasu confirms.

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>>125646713

>>125646623
EX is planet breaker, because the only one who has EX strength to date, is a literal planet breaker. EX is meant to be quite immeasurable. So anyone who has that shit, has to be off the scales. There's a reason why its hard to give EX stat to someone, since EX skill is easy, but EX stat means it has to be a bit beyond anything else type special.

Its not going to some normal servant of course; even Heracles who lifted the world only had A+ strength.

People overestimate how buffed their servant should be, but probably not stupidly high. Whatever servant you want to create, you probably don't need anything beyond A+, or A++. That much is enough, that much is already on par with the strongest people of legends basically. Don't try to wank overstate it too much.

>>125646726
>EX is clearly above A, there is no argument to be made, confirmed by Nasu and pretty much everyone
>Dont know m8, need a confirmation
Am I missing something? whats so hard to grasp?

>>125646726
He has confirmed that EX is stronger then A you humongous faggot.
There is literally a separate classification for stuff that is off the chart so much it might be weaker, and spoiler alert, its not EX.

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Night /fgog/

>>125646850
Where in my post am I wanking anything?

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>>125646506
>>125646557

>>125646726
>but it's unknown until Nasu confirms.

Its not unknown at all, its been known since the first few data books.

>A set of rules for representing the rank of a particular status. They range from A~E. EX is in a league of its own, representing powerful to the extent of rendering comparisons meaningless. If we assign numbers to ranks, then E=10, with each subsequent rank increasing by +10. Ranks with “+” such as A+ and B+ can momentarily multiply its associated numerical value. For instance, C+(30) can temporarily boost its power to 60, exceeding Rank A (50). Also, “++” represents multiply by three times.

>>125646980
Morning

>>125646850
Who has EX strength?

>>125646990
I'm explaining how it works to you.

"Oh man, this guy with boost must have EX rank strength" though isn't quite how it works. For someone to have an EX rank stat, its nothing so simple.

Its like when Jetfags tried to make the argument that with Arondight he's gotta have EX in every stat.

Although there is one servant who was created recently, who's stats rank up to EX in almost every category for one day of the war, and after that they start dropping to E rank.

He was some sort of monkey.

>>125647006
>For instance, C+(30) can temporarily boost its power to 60, exceeding Rank A (50)
Nasu is as retarded as everybody arguing over his clusterfuck

>>125646102
>Sakura
Zouken is dead, and Shinji redeemed himself

>Rider
She's a servant. Who the fuck cares.

>Saber
She got the same resolution as the end of Fate route without getting dicked.

>Ilya
Honestly she can't ever have a happy ending.

>>125647157
But I was arguing the exact same thing, how it's not easy, if possible to get EX strength, dont try to sound all high and smart when you cant even read properly

>>125645681
You're incredible

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>>125647126
Kingprotea

>>125647204
>Zouken is dead, and Shinji redeemed himself

You really must be strange, or you're creating some odd head-canon there. Zouken never died, its confirmed he just didn't take part in the war in other routes.

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>>125647180
How is that retarded? It's a system that makes sense. Like having a revolver that normally shoots .38 special, then you have a .357 magnum in one of the cylinders.

>>125647001
Heterosexuality triggers me. This is my safespace, please leave.

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>>125646867
>>125646883
>>125647006
>mfw I started this

>>125647001
Honestly they would be the best servant to summon for a Grail War.

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>>125642047
>>125644137
>>125644520
>>125644656
>>125644843
>>125645404

mmmmk forgot to spoiler lol

>>125647341
Bad man.

>>125647316
Not really, he's almost at his limit in HF. Meaning he can't do jackshit anymore by the time UBW ended.

>>125647357
>get two cocksuckers in one package
Fuck.

>>125647157
Hideyoshi Toyotomi.

Not actually a monkey, Nobunaga just called him that because (historically at least) he thought Hideyoshi was fucking ugly like a monkey. Nobunaga was kind of a huge dick. Mitsuhide rebelled because he just got fed up with Nobunaga's abuse. The straw the broke the camel's back was basically a "yo mama" joke.

No idea why she calls Toyotomi "monkey" in Fate though.

>>125647357
>DFC and oppai in one package

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>>125644247

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>>125647316
>She’s the Alter Ego of craving and desire.
>On one hand she is the lowest ranked of the Sakura Five, but on the other hand she has the strongest presence within SE.RA.PH.
>This Sakura has the id_es skill “Huge Scale.”

>Kingprotea is an Alter Ego created from BB, however she is considered too dangerous to reside anywhere on the Moon, so she is disposed of into a place with “nothing,” in short, the emptiness of outer space.
>This Alter Ego should never come into contact with anything.

>She is a baby with a bottomless stomach, basically a giant hole. A cage is built to contain the Kingprotea who blindly desires love. Just like the cavity in the middle of the Moon and Seraph’s Cage it is a physical container made using photonic crystals.
>BB, who realized the danger Kingprotea posed, seals her in the Fallen Angel’s Cage. Although BB sealed Kingprotea inside, nobody knows how massive Kingprotea might have become.

>Huge Scale : EX
>An id_es skill. id_es skills are the inborn special powers of the Alter Egos.
>Her “Self Remodeling” cheat skill goes out of control and activates Huge Scale EX.
>It enables unlimited expansion of her size and scale.
>However, the owner of this skill, Kingprotea, can grow without end. When her level exceeds the limit, she expands the boundary herself and sets an even higher max limit. This can be repeated infinitely.
>The result is that she is unable to create a body (an avatar) that is of normal size and limitation, and as a lone Ego she is destined to continue to enlarge.
>If left alone, she will end up becoming a disaster on a universe scale that would destroy the stars, however she would not destroy the universe itself. This is because the speed at which the universe is expanding is faster than the speed at which Kingprotea is enlarging.

>>125647604
Cuz he looks like a money.

>>125647604
Because he dresses like sun wu kong

>>125647453
At least it's better than people saying that A ranks to A+ when + are modifiers and not ranks. I literally don't understand why people forget that. It's like they have never read the materials.

>>125647696
>>125647704
Welp, another mystery solved. Good job, gang.

Scooby Dooby doo.

>>125647647
>The limit of craving and desire:
>Because it’s fun, because it tastes good, because it’s warm.
>Through these kinds of animalistic impulses she pursues love without a reason for doing so— This is Kingprotea’s Ego “Craving and Desire.”
>The incarnation of a certain bodhisattva once said “Even without a goal, for yourself, fill the universe with love.” but this Ego follows “Without reason, for myself, crave the love found in the universe.”
>Originally no one was supposed to find her, to understand her, to defeat her. She would simply be floating along in the void of space. Then eventually a curious Master would come across her, and they would do battle.
>Is Kingprotea just a pure infant? An abominable disaster? Has she sinned? In any case, those of us who live in this age of mass consumption have no right to judge her.
>The proof of humanity that everyone has.
>The strongest and most fundamental Ego. But until the day comes when her “desire without limit” can be used for good rather than evil, she is destined to continue floating in the empty sky.

One who blindly desires, one who hungers infinitely, its understanding is about as much as the Hulk, if the Hulk were also a child and stronger.

A dangerous entity that had to be sealed in outer space lest it would destroy the Moon.

If Lancelot is unrivaled, how come he doesn't have EX in every stat?

Checkmate, atheists.

So I was unable to even start the game for about a week since it wouldn't connect.... what happened to thighs?

>>125647893
She wasn't permanent and her gacha event ended, she's gone

>>125647923
Oh good, I may as well delete my account unless anyone wants to buy 2x Lancelot and 1x Tamamo.

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>>125647854
May as well get into the identity as well a bit

>Alignment: Lawful Good

>Strength: EX
>Endurance: EX
>Agility: A
>Magic: D
>Luck: B
>Noble Phantasm: -

>Alter Ego of thirst of love.
>G means gigantism, growing, greed.
>It was formerly sealed at the ends of the imaginary number space.
>Alter Egos are complexes made from several goddesses, however Protea is created from the essence of the great Mother Goddess that is common throughout all mythologies. Her self can be treated as a Noble Phantasm as she does not possess a Noble Phantasm. As with the Golden White Face, she's a hazard that can only be overcome in battle through the combined strength of several servants.

>>125647893
She's gone Jim

>>125648034
Wait for london

>>125648034
Scat is shit anyway so you really didn't miss anything.

Honestly now, is there a personal skill that wanks the character harder than EAM? I have some in mind that come close like Instinct, Pioneer of the Stars, Reduced Earth.

What are other wankfest Personal Skills?

>>125648197
Imperial Privilege

>>125648197
Reduced Earth isn't even that special.
Imperial Privilege has somehow gone under the radar as far as stupid wankfest skills go.

>>125645973
What about Sakura?

>>125647204
Zoukens not dead, Sakura is still a parasite infected half grail with no real emotions
>Shinji redeemed himself
How? By trying to rape Rin and working with Gil to commit genocide? Nasu had to come out in an interview and explicitly say that Shinji doesn't just go back to raping Sakura after the backlash from people who finished HF.
>She got the same resolution as the end of Fate route without getting dicked
Oh, so you never read the VN. Saber goes back to endless Grail Wars after UBW, she is in the same position she would be in after getting killed in HF.

>>125648197
Every single positive attribute is a wank

>>125648197
Jetfags seriously think they're the highest end out of the highest end in terms of powerful skills?

>Potnia Theron [EX]
>Potnia Theron (Conception of All Animals).
>The authority of the goddesses whom BB compiled and absorbed from the abyss of the mooncell.
>What it is is the embodiment of the power of creation possessed by the mother goddesses, originating from a forgotten goddess approximately 8000 years ago (the goddess of Çatalhöyük), and branching to Tiamat and Cybele, Ishtar, Inanna, Athena, Astarte, Gaia, Hera, Artemis, Aphrodite, Demeter, Athena, etc.
>Many are imaged with mural crowns. This is because many of the goddesses were also the guardian deities of cities.
◆
>The symbols of this authority are the holes opening in the earth and the sky (caves and the moon), the whirlpools and typhoons of the sea, the craters of volcanos, and so on, and from these, evils bringing forth all manners of death are birthed.
>But once these evils have finished spreading death, they leave the promise of good harvest and fertility. >This authority is none other than the power of bringing death as well as giving life.
>The earth mother is a guardian deity revered by the people and their protector, and at the same time she is the sacrifice that feeds them with the crops born from her body and the beasts of the fields and the forests.
>The earth mother feeds man with her blood and flesh, kills man over time and absorbs him as nutrition, and once again feeds man with her replenished blood and flesh.

>>125648197
Wisdom of the Dark Realm is pretty wanky.

Wait a second I get 100 stocking per run of 40, there are I believe 500 items in Santa's shop.
So 400 ap to get 1000 tickets.
2 gold apples 250 ap
3 silver apples 191
4 bronze apples 40 ap.
We can go... infinite?

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>>125648295
>>125648335
>Imperial Privilege EX can reproduce any Skill the Heroic Spirit would not normally hold
Does that mean Nero could become UNRIVALED?

>>125648371
>This process is the circle of the food chain, and the cycle of life and death can be said to be the true nature of the earth mother. With this authority, most of the goddesses gave birth to countless monsters and giants and posed a threat to the gods and man, or they gave birth to heroes and became protectors of man.
>Tiamat and Gaia are examples of those who became threats, and Hera is an example of a mother of heroes.
◆
>Those born on this earth cannot defy the authority of the earth mother, as that would mean rebelling against the system of life itself.
>However, it is when they have left this earth to go into outer space and ended the infantile stage of intelligent lifeforms that they should no longer be bound to this authority..
>The wish of Çatalhöyük is the coming of that day.

This is a personal skill.

Another personal skill form the same character, is the Holy Grail itself, which can grant her any wish at any time perhaps.

>>125645973
What the fuck Illya died like a bitch and Shirou never knew about her.

>>125648472
more like EQUAL

>>125648472
Aestus Domus Aurea already made her UNRIVALED

It's literally "Nero's zone of absolute bullshit being possible"

>>125648472
Why does she have an EX rank in Imperial Privilege again?

>>125648514
Ilya isn't a person. Only people get happiness in UBW.

>>125648564
Saberface.

>>125648476
Also the ability to infinitely break down structures to modify and power herself up.

>Self-Modification [EX]
>A skill that allows one to restructure oneself. AIs created by the Moon Cell are under an absolute rule, "Improving one's functionality is not allowed."
>However, BB, who had escaped that yoke due to her breaking down, began to expand her own functions. In order to boost her calculating power, she had that black noise prey on and dismantle NPCs, AIs, and finally, Servants, and utilized them as her own memory.
>Though they were appendix-like additions that won't spare her from the fate of collapsing on her own, BB has changed into a hyper level AI who holds an enormous amount of capacity. Like the towns on reclaimed land that continue to build architecture while knowing that it will be swallowed by water or Frakenstein's monster.

>>125648564
She's an Emperor, an Emperor is authority, if the say black is white, then it is.

>>125648431
It's pretty much chirons skill and they do make sense in the grand scheme of things

>>125648564
Imperial Privilege is delusion quantified as a skill. Because Nero is peak delusional she gets peak rank.

>>125648583
Ok I chuckled but fuck off anyways.

>>125648625
Nero actually isn't a saberface, she just used Imperial Privilege to steal the saberface skill.

>>125648448
Apples doesn't appear on the six refill, refills also stops at six

>>125648654
>Chiron confirmed for RNG crit skill
Doomed to be shit before release.

>>125648371
>>125648476
>BB
Don't be fucking stupid m8 I'm talking about regular Servants not hax bitches that are so strong you need Origin boost to even put a match.

>>125648564
The other Romans have it high too. Romulus has it as EX and Caligula has it in A.

Besides, she has Migraine too so it balances out.

>Golden Grail [EX]
>The golden grail that BB possesses. The Holy Grail. The Holy Grail that grants its owner's impudent and selfish desires.
>The grail that the great enchantress who appears in The Revelation of St. John the Divine holds. Though it's a counterfeit Holy Grail, it's because that it's a counterfeit Holy Grail that it's become a "genuine" Holy Grail that grants the desires of humans without paying heed to right or wrong.
>To the Christians of those days, who considered honorable poverty a virtue, this grail, which was formed as a symbol of treasures such as gold, is no doubt the meaning of corrupt wealth, greed, and the vanity that leads one to adorn oneself.
>Though it is clear on the occasion that this grail is held by the great enchantress of Babylon which in the personification of the Roman Empire, this grail symbolizes the wealth of the earth, which is the inversion of Christ's words, "Do not pile up the wealth of the earth."

All of the Alter Egos and BB have skills that make EAM look like a fucking joke at best.

EAM only makes you the greatest skilled guy of your age. Not the strongest, not the best, but the most skilled. Its not as much of a wankfest or bullshit as you think. The only real effect it has in battle is negating mental interference.

>>125648761
>balances out
>Migraine is a buff
???

>>125648740
As long as it's above like 60% it should be fine

>>125648719
Refill goes on forever, just no more gold and silver apples or tickets/lores

>>125648778
>All of the Alter Egos and BB
read >>125648754

You trying to compare a Servant to BB is fucking laughable. Not even Numeral Gawain which is on the high end of Servants could last against BB.

>>125648848
I mean outside FGO.

>>125648754
>Don't be fucking stupid m8 I'm talking about regular Servants

So thoroughly blown out that you need to lower the bar a few levels to say that you can have a chance?

Yeah, EAM still isn't that great.

Counter Hero, Lightless Three-step Stage, Tsubemi Gaeshi, Magic Resistance, Enlightenment of the Sacred Fig, Draconic Witch, Haunts of Wisdom, etc

EAM isn't even in the top twelve I'd say.

>>125648987
Even in Extra I cant remember Nero being affected by migraines.

>>125648927
Alter Egos are official servants

>>125648564
She almost as Delusional as jetfag.

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Who true Cake here

>>125649175
Confirmed jetfags:

Ozymandias
Nero

Any others?

>>125649070
True, but then she didn't really use Imperial Privilege at all in Extra either. At least that's what I remember.

>>125649070
Its the entire reason she can't keep up her Noble Phantasm that long. She gets a headache, and loses focus, so it disappears.

>>125649175
>muh bogeyman
Holy autism.

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>Wisdom of the Dark Realm A+

>The intellect of the abyss, acquired as a consequence of surpassing humans, killing gods and being left behind in the outside of the world. With exception of those particular of certain heroes, almost all skills can be displayed with a proficiency level of B~A Rank. Also, only towards those she has recognized as true heroes, it is also possible to teach such Skills.

>During combat, a Skill that she often employs is foresight of battle conditions by means of "Clairvoyance". Even in Ulster mythology, she often predicted the future with such foresight. Even the final moments of her beloved pupil Cu Chulainn.

>>125649058
Mind's Eye also is pretty good, even if its simple enough.

Could Nero fuck you with unrivaled skill within Domus Aurea?

>>125648345
>Saber goes back to endless Grail Wars after UBW
What made UBW's ending different than Fate for Saber? I can understand HF since she got corrupted and didn't learn anything about how her wish was wrong.

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>>125643009
>Would Batman beat Lancelot? Discuss.
Lancelot would beat Batman bin Suparman

>>125649237
Imperial Privilege is the reason she's a Saber at all.
Of course now anyone can be any class but that was the explanation.

>>125649175
I'm still surprised that some nigga suggesting Kintoki might actually be good lorewise was enough to set him off. Not even better than Lancelot, just good.

>>125649401
>Of course now anyone can be any class but that was the explanation.

Anyone with a sword and high enough stats, but it was never really stated what constitutes high stats. Nero uses her IP to overcome one or both of the gaps that would normally prevent her from being this class.

Using her IP to say "But I'm a master swordsman" and "But I surely have great stats you might say". There was never a directly stated lower end for what the stat minimum was for this class at least.

>>125649385
Look at that smug fucking smirk.

He knows.

>>125649058
Being inferior to BB is in no way being "blown out". It's like you are trying to compare Accelerator to fucking Othinus here.

>Magic Resistance
What? The others are good though, although 2 come from Buddah himself. Haunts of Wisdom is literally Chiron 2.0.

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What a nice thread

>>125649538
kek

>>125649363
Because she didn't learn anything about how her wish was wrong?
Her ending scene is literally going back to her hill of swords to await more summons.
The only route Saber ends up happy is Fate, the only route Sakura ends up happy is HF.
Rin only ends up with Shirou in UBW but she isn't unhappy in any of the routes in the first place.
I guess a political marriage for babies to an older man for muh magus pride is her unhappy end, but she seems fine with it in HF Normal.