/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

SAVE ME FROM THIS BROOOODY DESTINY

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Find a flaw.

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Why wouldn't you save me even unto the very end...?

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>>125636659
Short hair.

So I've reached the final save point in Raidou 1 but I'm going to go back and finish up the side things like Alice and Beelzebub and shit. I'm planning on doing NG+ but I wonder if I should do it on Hard Mode. Normal NG+ would be too easy I feel but from what I'm reading about Hard Mode it just seems like bullshit rather than actually making things hard in an interesting way. To those who have played Raidou on Hard Mode, should I even bother if I'm wanting to get 100% completion? By my standards that's full compendium, all optional bosses, and maxed out store inventories.

>>125636659

I wish she had more time to be useful as a party member in DDS2. From what I remember the period where you need to use her is pretty small and after that there's not much reason to have her in battle.

haven't played a smt game before and IV is $15 on the 3ds estore

IV a good place to start? i'm a big fan of turn based rpg's

>>125637106
>I wish she had more time to be useful as a party member in DDS2. From what I remember the period where you need to use her is pretty small and after that there's not much reason to have her in battle.
That depends on what skills you passed to Serph, if your Serph has good skills then Serah will be as good just with different stat spread.

>>125637447
Yes. Also if you want to do a physical build pump DEX. Don't bother with STR.

>>125637543

cool, what's a viable build for a starter?

>>125637613
DEX/LUK or MAG/AGI

>>125637450

I can't remember, are you forced to have Serph in DDS1 and 2 or can you even switch him out for whoever? At the point where you have both Serph and Serah I don't see why you would want them both since it's usually better to have a more varied team without the same weaknesses.

>>125637613
If you're new to the franchise, you should know that even though the game presents a "balance" button that evenly distributes points across all stats, you really wanna only put points into a very few areas.

I personally did a mostly DEX with slightly less AGI points for my first run.

>>125637805

thanks

>>125637825
You're only forced to use in Serph in dungeons where your party is very limited. Even then I suppose you could just use Heat and Argilla or something and leave a slot empty.

>>125637865

yeah seems more viable to streamline points into a specific build rather than balance all stats

especially since from what i know the game allows recruiting demons, thanks for the info though

>>125638010
Are you new to Megaten as a whole?

>>125638358

yeah haven't played a single game in the series

IV seemed like a decent place to start

>>125637447
SMT IV is brutally and perhaps unfairly hard at first. It softens up after the first hour or so. Abuse the save-anywhere feature early on.

>>125638482
It really is.
You might wanna leave before spoilers get posted, but the basics are:

A) Don't grind, mulching up multiple old demons to make single new demons is the way to get stronger demons. Don't expect to stick with the same demons for a lot of the game.

B) Elemental weaknesses aren't just a bonus, they're the main way to play. You can continue attacking and prevent the enemies from taking a turn if you do, and you really want to since they tend to do a lot of damage if they get a chance to hit you.

People will complain that it's really hard at first, but it's fine if you keep you play strategically.

>>125637825
You could solo the game with any character.

I find funny that in DDS 1 would make sense to have a GO if Serph dies given he is the leader and his dead is an objective of the other tribes.

As for DD2, a little spoiler Serph and Sera will merge so the skills they learned will go to one character so make Sera learn other skills diferent from Serph for a better result.

>>125638856

cool so if i just play patiently i should be fine

kinda sounds like dqm joker with the demon fusing too

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>>125636248
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhkXBp4loSY

It's so damn good, it give me a chill down my spine.

>>125639021
In general the franchise is liked for being difficult, but IV is relatively easy compared to most of the other games.
People complain that it starts hard, though, but I've never personally felt that way.
If you're used to Turn Based RPGs then really the only thing I can stress is don't let the enemies get hits in like most other games.
In most Megaten games some foes only need a single turn to wipe you out, and you have options to keep them from attacking.
Get crits or weakness hits.

Less important, but remember that your friends will always be with you no matter what.
They're a big help and really charming too, so get extra attached to them for the best story, since it tends to branch depending on how you interact with them.
On that note you should also probably steer clear of these threads for a bit since spoilers are like the most posted things here.

>>125639854

yeah gonna leave now, thanks for all the info man, big help

>>125640078
You're welcome, chum.
Best of luck on your samurai journey.
Remember: Friends are a big help in this game, even if they can't be directly controlled like demons.

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>>125640231
>Friends are a big help in this game

Walter most certainly is not. They really should have let you choose which partner to use in boss fights.

>>125640362
That seems to have been fixed in Final.

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How am I even supposed to be able to defeat the goddamned bitch Tiamat? (Strange Journey) Fucking hell, I'm mad.

>counter her stat increases with acid breath
>the bitch just spams some absolutely cunting almighty damage
>no decent demons with ice immunity
>ones that are aren't my alignment
>lol were you trying to damage me? I'll just recover ALL MY FUCKING HEALTH

FUCK TIAMAT

GOD DAMN

CUNT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE

>>125641556
Leave.

>>125641506
Obviously you're supposed to fuse a bunch of demons resistant to ice that can hit her weakness. If they're all of the same alignment it doesn't really matter if they aren't of yours.

>>125641506
Dont debuff her since that will trigger her healing skill.

She is weak to zio so spam that. Anzu source has Zyodine if you need it for your fusion.

>>125641506
Grab a golden gun.

Kill black rider for his forma. It helps out.

Also try and get a thunder ring/anything that boosts zio skills.

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>>125641556
God brought all the worthy ones into his kingdom. We are all what remains.

>>125641556
Shitposting.

>>125641556
Probably some shitposting that's overexaggerated to make it sound more dramatic than it was and nobody really cared about

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Post your favorite demons.

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>>125644301

Is Krishna voiced by the same dude who does Dio?

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>>125644301

http://m.ign.com/articles/2015/12/16/sony-is-taking-suggestions-for-backwards-compatible-ps2-games-on-ps4
VOTE FOR NOCTURNE YOU FUCKS.

>>125644643
Yup.

>>125644126
>>125641668
>trying to hide what happened
onto you lawfag

>>125645770
>vote
Read next time

>>125645770
It's already on PSN though?

>>125646297
>>125646309
Use the hashtag #ps2ps4 and suggest Nocturne to be on the compability list, sons of man.

>>125647967
I already did earlier today, it's still not a method of voting nigger.
More than likely only P3 and P4 will come over.

>>125644643
No, he's voiced by Kenjiro Tsuda according to tvtropes. Unless you're not talking about Dio from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.

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Is there a megaten girl with sexier legs than Argilla?

>>125649050
Nozomi.

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>>125649105
She's more about the thighs.

>>125649050
Flynn.

>>125649176
You better be able to romance her.

>>125649390
>Romance
>SMT

Very funny.

We're going to kill her.

>>125649472
>Not always siding with the waifu

But this time there are multiple waifus likely to represent the various routes. We might have to choose this time.

>>125649472
>>125649390
Isabeau 2.0

>>125649472
After SMT IV neutral route i believe romance its not out of the question, even if its just one line of text of Nozomi saying she likes Nanashi.

Also dont forget there was a love triangle going on in SMT 1.

>>125649537
>Implying that's not Asahi

>>125649523
If there's one thing that worries me about Final it's this. If I wanted Megaten with waifus I'd play Persona.

>>125649714
Megaten always had waifus. Higher quality waifus than Persona.

>>125649714
Waifus are mandatory in every mainline.

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>>125649523
I already have a waifu.

I give no shits about Final's girls.

Post apocalypse, Demons and Chaos is all i need.

>>125649714
What if i want a waifu while having a party of female demons in a post apocalyptic world?

Persona wouldnt do shit for me.

At the very least every route should had its own partner while the rest has to be killed.

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>>125649782
Let me make it more clear. What worries me is the choose from many aspect because it's a slippery slope into adding dating sim elements.

>>125649390
I thought that spoiler was gonna say "Deithighde" her

Do you think Donald Trump is a law or chaosfag?
>recent news has people claiming trump as a 'chaos candidate' along side his radical policies
>yet a lot of his statements and occupation seem to be more "lawful"

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>>125651397
I think Donald is lawful because of his nation-centered goals and parallels to the Monroe Doctrine-era America, with reduction of American extraterrestrial power and more defense

But ironically a fucking businessman is less of a shady businessman than most of the politicians running

>>125651397
In a crazy mixed up post-apocalyptic world, Trump is the only sane candidate.

Would you foam in the mouth in rage if there were Amiibo based optional boss fights?

>>125651397
He's a Lawfag. He's pretty big on the groupthink mentality. He doesn't even realize how Fascist he is.

>>125652481
Trump would be the leader of his own group of American Nazis known as the Wig Battalion.

>>125653051
>Trump is a Nazi
It's not even 2016 yet and I'm already sick of this meme.

>>125653051
>Would you foam in the mouth in rage if there were Amiibo based optional boss fights?
Yes

I wish he was a fascist, fuck current Murica.

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>>125653186
The Nazis embody the Groupthink mentality.

I know what else does as well. Gelulululu~

>>125653621
Trump is pretty socially liberal desu senpai just very nationalistic

Only people I hear calling him a Nazi are college undergrads because they hear "immigration/travel bans" and immediately think concentration camps

>>125653976
No it's how him and the media in general tend to always talk about muslims being the enemy when talking about ISIS.

Even Obama had to comment the enemy is ISIS and one newsreporter was actually dumb enough to say that they've never acted like Muslims are the enemy. Even Bush had at one point pointed out not all muslims are the enemy just the terrorists during his reign.

Plus I wouldn't trust a guy who isn't even trusted with running his own casinos with running a nation.

Can't link them but they're videos of Isabeau and Flynn with the Japanese dub for SMT IV Final. Flynn looks cute as fuck when he smiles, I think I'm in love.

>>125654218
>Plus I wouldn't trust a guy who isn't even trusted with running his own casinos with running a nation.
I'm pretty sure he just pays people to run them. When you reach a certain level, you're delegating work.

>>125653976
A lot of what he says is what the people want to hear rather than what they need. That kind of thinking leads to groupthink.

So I'm playing nocturne, at the amala temple.
I fucked up my Red Rider fusion because prominence+mana refill was so damn hard to get on him, so now he has only 1 boost. So is it worth it to load a save back a few hours or just say fuck it and keep him.

Also I have no buff/debuff demon and most of my current party doesn't have much in that way. Any suggestions or should I just forgo it until I get a debilitate

>>125655403
Also, suggestions for SMT ps2 games? I didn't like persona 3, I'm not into the dating sim or waifus, but I dig the hell out of nocturne

>>125654234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-AWfV8CICU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqebFuwTIV4

>>125655692
The other SMT games that aren't P3 or P4 on the PS2.

>>125655692
DDS.

>>125654873
>>125654218
>>125653976
You think he would use Thor?

Hell. The icbm cluster seems something he would approve of,

>thorman is redesigned to look like Trump

HE SPEAKS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-AWfV8CICU
Also Isabeau
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqebFuwTIV4

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>>125636248
Best Persona battle theme.

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>>125644301

>>125655692
Try out DDS.

>>125655403
No one got advice for this?

>>125657038
>>125655870
And thanks guys, I'll order it off amazon

>>125655403
Why don't you try making a demon with some Kaja/Kunda spells and keep playing? Go to the compendium and work around with what you have.

>>125656453
>bryce papenbrook As English va
Fuck.

>>125657689
The thing is, I'm not sure I need it. My Wu Kong has the phys buff but that's about it. I could go through the trouble of that, sure, but do I really need to?

Also isn't Ose really good as a support demon?

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Spoilers for anon who just started playing this
>finally playing SMTIV because europoor
>man this setting sure is boring
>fine asshole I'll go to the land of the unclean ones
>mfw Tokyo
>holy shit why did the OST suddenly turn so good
>holy shit this game is amazing
>mfw entering blasted Shinjuku's shelter for the first time and SMTII's Law Theme starts playing
>mfw SMT's Chaos Theme starts playing during Akira's speech at the end

Holy shit this ride is getting more wild with the second, to think I scorned this game at first for not being MUH SMT.

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>>125657914
>do I really need to?
Shouldn't need to YES GET SOME

>>125657914
Of course you fucking need it. At the very least get Sukunda or Fog Breath.

>>125639854
>Less important, but remember that your friends will always be with you no matter what.
>They're a big help and really charming too, so get extra attached to them for the best story, since it tends to branch depending on how you interact with them.
I like you.

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>>125654234
>>125655743
I want to fug Flynn.
Also
>Isabeau onee-san
Can't believe I'm playing this in english.

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>>125658998
Who doesn't.

>>125658027
>>125658138
I've rolled through since like, way before obelisk without using debuffs and with minimal buffs. Pretty sure I did the riders with only using phys up and agil up

>>125659631
I just got home from work, I could post my party and you guys could critique it/ make suggestions? I'm at the amala temple

>>125659631
>>125659724
As long as you have at least Sukukaja or Sukunda/Fog Breath then it's doable.

>>125657770
Please don't remind me of this.

>>125660064
I still haven't taken fog breath on MC, could always do that I guess.

Atm I have Wu Kong with tarukaja, dekaja and tetrakarn+ normal shit, red rider with mana refill/prominence dekunda, And titania with prom, mana refill prayer and boosts

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>>125660387
You have Dekaja/Dekunda so it's pretty good. You really need Sukunda or Fog Breath though. I learned Fog Breath right when it was available and remained with it until the end.

>>125660598
My MC is:
Focus
Anti expel
Divine shot
Tornado
Endure
Fire Drain
Force Boost
Death bound

Should I just drop the force boost tornado combo? I'm mainly phys anyways

>>125661162
You can but I kept it until near the end.

>>125661162
I would drop the Force boost for Fog Breath.

I can assume that DemiKids wasn't over here, but was Devil Children commercially successful in Japan to any degree?

>>125664130
Probably sold better there than here since they had a bunch of games on the GBC (later ported to PS1) and GBA.

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>>125644643

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>>125657770
psst
hey

Guess who else is voiced by Bryce Papenbrook

JRPGG is dead, did anyone buy Chronus Arc?

>>125637106

Have none of you played Raidou Hard Mode?

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>>125644301

>>125656453
Anyone knows what they're saying?

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>>125644301

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I want to fuck Loki.

bamp

>>125669958
go away Ohara go away

>>125653051
But the social justice crowd is basically our era's brown shirts or (mao's) red guards. It's only a matter of time before they become even more insane and destabilize everything further...

>>125673472
So Trump is Law and the SJWs are chaos? Or is it the other way around?

>>125649650
SMT never had obvious romance, even in SMT IV Isabeau only straight out confesses she likes you when you're killing her.

>>125654873
Perhaps the same could be said of all politicians my friend

>>125674362
Thats all i need and ask from Megaten regarding romance.

>>125673710
Trump is lawful, but works by creating chaos
SJWs are chaos, but work by creating (social) law(s)

>>125674793
These are the kind of things that make me go Neutral, crazy faggots, all of them

>>125674792
>tfw your only romantic moment with your waifu will be when you kill her

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>>125675462
>tfw

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>>125644301

/smtg/ I'm dying

>>125678370
What's your alignment?

>>125678612
Why would that matter? L...Lawful

>>125678692
Have fun dying then I guess.

>>125678815
Cruel! If only you'd helped me I would have put in a good word for you on the Thousand Year Kingdom.

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>>125678692
what's the matter friend

>>125648697
>tvtropes
Kill yourself.

>>125679584
autistic much?

>>125680062
Not him, but stop being a faggot.

>>125680146
The guy tells the other to "kill himself" for visiting a dumb website on the internet and I'm the faggot? Alright then.

>>125679584
I was talking about the voice actor, not some weird fan theory posted there, chill. And seriously the dude sounds nothing like Takehito Koyasu so that's not Dio's voice.

>>125680341
Yeah, now calm down.

>>125675046
You say that but neutral got 5 different factions as of final with it.

All of it is crazy, go white.

>>125648697
Why would you go there of all places to find information?

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Hoy.

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/hoy/

I'm in a bind here you guys.

My bro loved the Persona 4 and Devil Survivor 2 animes, and he wants to play SMT.

But he hates grinding and has no patience for it.

What do I do here?

>>125686772
Well you don't normally have to grind in SMT games so I'm not understanding what bind you're in.

>>125686772
>My bro loved the Devil Survivor 2 anime

>>125687160
I haven't seen it but I'm assuming by that reaction it's bad? I know P4A had QUALITY but.

>>125686772
>My bro loved the Persona 4 and Devil Survivor 2 animes
>Devil Survivor 2 anime
Holy fucking shit

>>125686240
hi

>>125687381
it's so bad it became synonymous with video game anime disasters.

like usually video game anime aren't very good, but that one was particularly god damn terrible.

>>125686772
>My bro loved the Persona 4 and Devil Survivor 2 animes,
TOPKEK

>>125687381
So bad I've been sitting here cackling at your post for the past few minutes. Jesus Christ.

>>125641506
Get berserker even if you aren't chaos. He's a good help

>>125687381
They decided to fuck around with it so much and make the game look like a masterpiece in comparison.

>>125687705
Which is funny since DeSu2 is one of the most fitting to be an anime so it's like who the fuck thought what they did was a good idea.

>>125687705
>video game to anime adaptation gets announced
>comments everywhere you go, every time: "oh shit hope it's not gonna be another Devil Survivor 2"

What happened to all the old smtg posters?

>tfw you wanna play every SMT
>Fire Emblem: Awakening was your first SRPG
>not sure if you'll like DeSu

>>125688724
Hero killed them.

>>125688724
We fused.

>>125687381
It derailed enough it might was well be considered something else entirely using the game's skin. But it's not even good stand-alone and most people who haven't even played the game think it's garbage.

>>125688805
SRPG mechanics in DeSu are almost non-existent.

>>125688724
Peaceful days are over, let's survive

>>125689562
That leaves me a bit more at ease I suppose. Thanks anon.

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>>125688805
>Fire Emblem: Awakening was your first SRPG
Poor soul.

>>125690587
Yeah I never cared much for SRPG but with all the FE boom going around I figured I'd give it a look. Not exactly my cup of tea since the story isn't really the best and you go from one battle to another. Persona bothered me a bit because you couldn't properly "explore" a world either.
Currently on chapter 9.

>>125686772

Persona 4 shouldn't be a problem for him to play unless he's completely retarded, but he probably is if he loved those anime.

Devil Survivor 2 is a little bit more of an issue both because the gameplay and because the characters are written differently and plot goes in another direction so he may get thrown off.

>>125690784
FE4 + FE5 probably have the best FE story.

>>125691885
If after I'm done with this I'm still in the mood to give FE another try I'll try them out. Thanks for the tip anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3EFjFJgX3g
what is this

>>125692030
Hello friend, welcome to a few days ago. This is what was presented in stream we still do not know if it's included in-game which to be honest, sounds unlikely or just a promo.

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>>125689141
Is this how they look like?

>>125692283
I doubt it considering that Nanashi is supposed to be a somewhat seasoned Hunter and then perishes.

>>125692370
you know
thinking back all of demi-fiend's friends were just jealous he got to be a cool demon with powers
they didn't have to die

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>>125677354
n1 lad

What are some demons known specifically for being guardians of something, such as Cu Chulainn and Cerberus?

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>>125696000
Daisoujou is the guardian of my heart

True Hard Mode in Nocturne is not having Daisoujou in your party.

>>125698631
Im pretty sure i never even fused Daisoujou in my playthrough of Nocturne.

>>125698901
Then you must be super great at Nocturne. Daisoujou helps SO much in Nocturne. His Meditation and Prayer moves are amazing.

>>125699113
Nocturne is so easy if you just buff spam. Only a few of the fiends really gave me any trouble. The Tombstones were the only individual thing that really took me any meaningful amount of time.

>>125699113
Daisoujou with
Prayer
Meditate
Dekunda
Dekaja
War Cry
Fog Breath
Makatora
Mana Fill

Easy game was had

>>125699113
Eh, I didn't fuse Daisoujou either. Only when I replayed in Hard is that when I found out how useful it is

>>125698631
I never used him fully in my two playthroughs. I fully leveled him in my third playthrough.

Honestly the only boss i remember having a real problem to deal with was Alciel.

>>125698631
What about not having chakra share and chakra walk?

Would that count too?

>>125692283
Even if it isn't included I sure hope the music from the teaser is.

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I decided to not be a pussy and do Hard Mode in my second playthrough of Raidou 1. Is there anything I should do beforehand though? Anything that carries over and would require a fuckton more grinding in Hard Mode? Off the top of my head, I'd imagine getting that one demon who runs away would be even more annoying to get in my compendium.

General advice for Hard Mode would be appreciated too.

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Oh this helps my gigantess fetish so much.

Too bad Kaneko doesn't do designs after this game.

>>125668464
I certainly haven't.

>>125668464
Doesn't look interesting to me.

>Fight fiend
>It takes 100 hours to kill him
>Never get hit once.

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>>125705582
How would you even fuck a giant? Your tiny dick wouldnt satisfy her.

>>125708468
Thats for Raidou 2.

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I think something is wrong.

>>125709751
That happened when i played SMT 1 on the SNES PSP emulator. Besides that the game runs flawless.

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>>125710095
I'm playing in the SNES emulator, i don't mind it as long as it's the only bug.

>>125710326
Only other glitch i remember was being alignment locked near before the alignment lock (As LAW) but i was still able to get the neutral route.

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>>125710525

>>125710326
as long as you arent in zsnes

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>>125712906
I'm sorry

>>125713121
Christ, you guys are retarded.

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>>125713228
I'll play SMT 2 on another emulator anon, i promise.

>>125713121
I remember using that shit when i was a kid back in 2005, last time i saw it was a little cousing of mine using it.

Cant believe people are still using that. btw the glitch here >>125709751 happens in the other snes emulator.

>>125713694
I remenber when i used ePSXe 7 years ago. It's still shit.

>>125713694
Yeah, I've heard it's common - so part of me thought maybe he wasn't.

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>mfw jack bros

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Someone know if there is a soul hackers undub version?
Does the game have voices at all?
I just can't stand english voices in japanese stuff

>>125714395
>I just can't stand english voices in japanese stuff

Then play in nippon, you faggot.

>>125714542
Japanese characters speaking english sounds and feels bad

>>125714395
It's not that bad. I can't hear Cielo without the Jamaican accent.

>>125714726
>DDS
>japanese

>>125689563
*Peaceful days have died; let's survive.

>>125714726
>Japanese characters speaking english sounds and feels bad
Then why arent you playing the japanese games. Reading them talking in english is as bad.

Thats the most funny thing about "muh japan" kids, claim they want to experience the same game as the japanese but not import.

Seriously fuck off weeb.

>>125700952
I didn't know those spells existed desu senpai

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>>125698631
>Daisoujou
>Titania
>Some other fiend
>WULD OF STR Demi-fiend
Easy game easy life.

>>125714726
None of the characters are japanese in DDS and it doesn't take place there either. So just say you want jap voices instead and look for an undub.

>>125717480
Oh I'm retarded I thought you were talking about DDS cause of the picture not soul hackers.

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>>125716256

>>125719893
I remember that from a /pol/ thread. Cant remember if it was the shitting street or the rape pusnishment thread.

>>125714726
>>125715375
>>125717480
You're giving your samefagging away with your bad English and inability to capitalize nouns.

>>125720680
They do this all the time.

"You wanted me to stop? This is what you wanted all along, NAKAJIMA!"

Does SMT give anyone else insomnia?

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>>125722212

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>>125722212
SMT gives me boners.

>>125649835

>an older sister
>you're mum
>a pixie?
>your app

Could the choice get any worse?

So I have a question for you guys. I just got to the point in SMT Strange Journey that I have access to a Demon Source with Luster Candy on it. I decided to test something out and fused Luster Candy onto a Mitama but test-fusing only passed it down to like two or three demons in my roster.

Is there a more reliable way to keep passing Luster Candy around?

>>125723704

>fuse an ideal demon
>get its password
>load back to a previous save
>buy it with the password

It seems downright dirty, but SJ sucks for the password system anyway.

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>>125723526
Bonus Dante Route

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>Normal Shin megami Tensei game
>Walk around
>Random encounter
>Battle starts immediately
>Spells and attacks are flashy and come out in less than seconds.


>Persona
>Walk 3 steps
>A white inverted filter expands from Maya's asshole and covers the entire screen.
>Random encounter
>Have to select everyone's attacks
>It takes long because there are a 100 menus and options to choose from
>Battle starts
>Party member summons his persona for the attack
>Persona goes over to demon and poses
>Special attack comes out
>Repeat for every single party member
>Battle ends
>Maya apologizes to these demon cunts
>MUTATION
>Asshole's persona gained new parameters
>Walk one more step
>Battle
>Repeat

Why does Lucifer always have the best music?

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>>125725659

>>125708935
You live in a world overrun with demons. Just gets some sex kind of demons and add their penises to your own.

>>125725953
because nips worship the devil

>>125725659
>Persona 4
>Poor hit detection on enemies doesn't give you advantage
>Rise squeals how many enemies there are at you
>[muffled Jpop playing furiously in the background]
>More squealing every time you hit or kill an enemy
>NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO FUCK EM UP YES/YES
>goofy punching noises
>GRATE SEMPIE YOU DID IT
>everybody gives an award ceremony speech as they level up while simultaneously singing the japanese national anthem with your cock in their mouths
>proceed to do this for 9 more copypasted floors

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>>125726996
>GRATE SEMPIE YOU DID IT

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>>125726996
>Persona 4
>Poor hit detection on enemies doesn't give you advantage
Good, thought I was just bad
>Rise squeals how many enemies there are at you
Y-You mean she's gonna be worse than Teddy?
>GRATE SEMPIE YOU DID IT
Laughed.

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>>125727291
I thought i was shit too but it's the game's fault. She's better than Teddy and his stupid puns.

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>>125727618
Thank god. His growling is pretty unbearable as well. I hope it doesn't take long to get to her.

>>125723704
Play some SMT with a fusion system that isn't completely shit
It ruined SJ for me
Well, that and zelenin being a bitch and a slut

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>>125728268
>Not Jimenez being friendly towards you even though you sided with Zelenin every time.

>>125727797
Which was the last Shadow boss?

>>125728405
God this. I'm going maximum over-LAW and he's being so fucking nice, even though he's an ass to Zelanin no matter what she says.

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>>125728871
Oh, I'm still at the start. Beat Yukiko two days ago I think but I've been busy and only gonna get back to it now. Figure I still get Kanji first.

>>125728929
Chaosfags tend to latch on to strong people since they are weak.

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>>125729139
Kanji's a good guy. Too bad he's stuck in a shit game.

>>125729139
You got lots of bear times to go.

>>125729426
Being less wet than diarrhea doesn't make something good

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>>125729549
Can we at least agree that this is the worst character related to SMT?

>>125729737
Yes.

>>125729737
That's not Yosuke.

>>125729737
Marie is pretty horrid too

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>>125729891
God, i forgot that shit existed. Why did you remind me?!

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SMT x The Legend of Zelda

I'm so late on this its not even funny but I just realized there are going to be lunar phases in smt4 final. That is dope as fuck.

>>125655743
>Flynn

I have a feeling MC is going to try to undermine his attempt at lowering the dome. I hope he kills us in the end or something like that.

>>125733480
I hope we get to kill Flynn mid game.

Is there a better area or method to grind EXP in Raidou 1? I'm grinding levels to get to the point where I can fight Alice and Beelzebub and then fuse them. I'm doing it around the second to last save point in the final dungeon and I feel like I'm going too slow.

By the way, is it a good idea to buy and sell the same stuff over and over again to raise my shop level before I go into NG+? Does that even work? I doubt I'm going to be buying much in the next playthrough since it'll be in Hard mode and the prices will be crazy.

>>125732267
SMT x Everything

>>125736191
>option to befriend Flynn and friends on your missions
>mess up to the point that Dagda takes complete control
>Flynn becomes the last minute hero 3/4s through and has to kill his new friend and his old companions in order to fix shit
>Broken Flynn at the end

>>125740758
>Flynn doing anything other than smirking at the misfortune of others

>>125741202
I need trauma, anon.
I was promised trauma.

>>125742457
But i want to be a mass murderer.

>>125742552
Why not both?
One ending for broken veteran, another for newbie who just becomes a godkiller.
Would people be angry at a happy mainline ending, like if somehow Walter and/or Jonathan come back but at a horrible price.

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>>125742961
>happy mainline ending

>>125734812

I just beat both Alice and Beelzebub at 66 no problem. Now I have to grind 13 levels to actually fuse that asshole bug.

>>125742961
>Would people be angry at a happy mainline ending

Yes.

>>125742961
>Walter and/or Jonathan come back but at a horrible price.
That's not happy and who wants a happy ending for mainline?

>>125743775
Wasn't Nocturne Reset End happy?
>>125744043
Well, the only way one could make up for a happy ending is by making it bittersweet. Would you kill Flynn if it meant more hoy?

>>125744724
In a heartbeat.

Is what i wanted to say.

Shit, tough choice.

>>125744724
>Wasn't Nocturne Reset End happy?
It's just a reset button to back how things were. The world still is what it is. How is that a happy ending?

>>125710525
I played SMT on PSP via emulator.
I got the fusion graphic bug, and also somehow got turned to chaos sometime before Asura in the Cathedral (I was neutral and fought Chaos Hero, etc)
It's easily fixed with a code, though.

>>125742961
>happy mainline ending
But you have to kill at least one of your friends for it to be a mainline ending! Even in Nocturne you kill everyone before the reset.

>>125745573
It didnt bother me much because i didnt switch any demons and it was only up to TDL, gladly i could get the neutral route after killing both Equidna and Haniel.

>>125744724
>Would you kill Flynn if it meant more hoy?

Never.

>>125744043

I kind of want a happy ending for Jonathan. He never even got to live, he was too sheltered. Don't really care bout Walter, sorry hoys.

>>125728929

He comes from a culture that values machismo and devalues women.

Or maybe he has a man crush on you, who knows. He's a total bro though.

>>125729737
Naoto is just inoffensively boring. The actual shit characters are Marie and MISS MIYAKOOOO and the like because there's no way to avoid them if you don't think they're the best thing since sliced bread. Barring not playing P4G/Triangulum Arc, obv.

Oh well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enj-qUMN6H8&feature=youtu.be

>>125754129
Oh shit.

>>125754129
Wait what.
Can they just switch forms now or something? How the fuck could they ever go back to talking normally after the fusion clusterfuck they both go through?

>>125754323
Walter already did this in IV.

>>125754129
Well this should be interesting. I want to know who the other 3 characters are already though. Especially the gray haired dude.

>>125754323
It means the Archangels are full of shit.

SMT x The X Files

Here's Walter's/Luci's vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRxuvEetOaw

Wake up.

>>125763590
>Jonathan is a Trans-Fembot
>Walter is a Trans-Black

>>125637805
I'm doing an SMTIV run for the first time right now, with it as my introduction into the series, and I've been keeping my stats relatively balanced, with a bias for STR and MAG, and I've been doing fine so far. I just beat the Monkey King and the Minotaur.

>>125765878
Pick either dex or mag and pump it to 200. Str only has an effect on auto attacks. Not skilld

>>125766982
Wait seriously?

Alright then.

>>125767539
In most SMT you're encouraged to do either a physical or magical build. You should always focus on one side.

>>125754323
They do use the Jonathan and Walter forms in the neutral route of SMTIV, so it's not that odd. Although at least there they were just provoking the Flynn, it's odd here, especially when Merkabah's usual human form in SMTIV had been shown to be Gabby, and Lucifer takes Hikaru's form again at the end of the Chaos route.

>>125754129
SMT 1-3, SJ
>Develop friends
>Friends become more monstrous as your ideologies diverge but remain immediately recognizable
>Fusing with demons retains both consciousnesses in full (SMT1, SJ)
>Forced to kill them in cold blood, with both parties fully aware of what they are doing

SMTIV
>"Whoever fuses with me... it'll basically be like dying!"
>Friends proceed to fuse and lose any semblance of their previous selves to minimize any guilt you'd have for killing them
>None to begin with since they're already confirmed dead and their motives are stupid anyway
>Tiny line in their previous voice before dying to try and milk non-existent sympathy

SMTIVF
>Your "basically dead" friends can super sentai their way back into human form whenever they want
>Nozomi is (at least visually) human again
>New characters are so divorced from IV's design philosophy that it looks like a goddamn SMT x Digimon crossover

No real consequences for killing the new waifu characters confirmed?

>>125769593
The waifu character in IV was the one who resembled killing your friends in the previous games though, minus the part where she had an extreme ideology and that she killed herself, but that actually made me feel worse for her than killing her myself would've have.

>>125769593
Nozomi didn't change visuals in IV and she's still the fairy queen in Final so that point is redundant.

>>125768983
Perhaps they take on forms that they feel would be most influential and for some reason decided Nanashi would be easier to prod along if they look like slightly older dudes. That still leaves the question of why specifically Johnathan and Walter though I guess.

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what samurai would you fug?

>>125769593
pretty sure killing someone who is aiming to kill you doesn't quite count as "in cold blood".

>>125734812
>>125743812

I looked it up and people were talking about getting in a fight with Nebiros and only killing the monsters he summons over and over. I didn't have the patience to go til he was out of MP but even if I did, it doesn't seem to be much quicker than grinding end-game fights.

I hate how this is the only way to actually fuse Beelzebub. As someone who likes to 100% MegaTen games I fucking hate whenever it's that way. What's even the point of having super high level demons like that when there's nothing harder than what you have to do to get them?

>>125753910
I had to google Miss Miyako. I'm not missing anything by not playing the Devil Survivor games right? They look worse than the Persona games.

>>125763590
Why did they keep this shitty Lucifer design?

>>125776801
had no choice

>>125776714
DeSu1 is pretty much a spiritual reimagining of SMT1
So yes, you are missing out.

>>125777000
They really aren't

Are there any content differences between the original Devil Summoner and the PSP remake? I've been considering getting a Saturn and I'm wondering if it would be worth getting that version over the PSP one. I'd like to know the same with Soul Hackers as far as the PS1 and Saturn versions. I know the 3DS remake added quite a few things.

Is Ronde worth playing for any reason at all? Like is it even worth playing just to experience how bad it is?

>>125776714

DeSu is pretty fun, you shouldn't dismiss it.

>>125777505
>DeSu is pretty fun
>most people who play it need their hand held through the whole thing

>>125777725

Who gives a shit about 'most people'? And how does that make it non-fun? Although I never played the DeSu2 followed up because that looked shit.

>>125777997
Getting mighty defensive.

>>125777492
Both DS games added a compedium.

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Who the hell are those guys then?

>>125778064

?

Whatever, DeSu1 and 2 are worth playing.

>>125778351

Fujobait and delicious shota. I'm already shipping it.

>>125778483
Look like trash for fujobait.

>>125778297

So the Saturn version of Devil Summoner had no compendium but the PSP version does? If that's the case then It's clear I should get it on PSP.

>>125778590
Well Nocturne introduced the compendium and levelable demons so any game before it didnt really need one before it.

>>125769593
>their motives are stupid anyway
IV isn't the worst offender in this though.

>>125753910
>The actual shit characters are Marie and MISS MIYAKOOOO
Fuck off. Marie and Miyako are best girls after Margaret and Otome

>>125781151
Marie looks and acts like a Deviantart character

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>>125774792
All of them.

>>125781296
I wouldn't know anon. I don't go there.

Is that website really that bad? I heard it was just American Pixiv.

>>125784523
Search your name along with "the hedgehog" and you'll see exactly why it's bad.

What happened in February?

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So /smtg/, did the Clipped Wings DLC quest change your opinion om Mastema? Is he a legit zealot who only wants to enact God's will or is he just bullshitting again? I don't know what to believe anymore...

>>125778351
Spear guy is law, most likely from masakado and shota ist human, he looks very plain but that plainness is making me very suspeshes of him. And he has elf ears calling it he is in with the poly team or a demon of some sort.

>>125787028
Small pointy ears are just associated with evil in Japan.

>>125778351
White haired dude really needs to cut his gross nails although I'm sure there's some weird revelation about how he's a werewolf/not human?

>>125787218
and the kanji for evil 悪 is on his jacket

>>125787346
惡

I want to fuck Yuko!

>>125728268
>Zelenin uses literal brainwashing and expects me to side with her
>Demons don't really care as long as they aren't the ones being killed

gee I wonder who I should side with

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>>125732267
SMTx Dragon Quest Monsters

>will never happen because SE would expect it to sell a trillion copies or else see it as a failure

>>125732267
SMT x LISA

>>125786843
he's a lawfag. just kill him and move on.

So, I've been playing DDS1.
I just got Cielo and Heat is like 10 levels behind everyone else.
Can I just get mutual karma, or whatever is was, and not use either of them until I absolutely have to?
I haven't played it in a couple weeks. I think that having all the extra characters that don't have abilities I want and won't level up with the people I'm using has just kinda turned me off of the game.

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Is hindu mythology / terminology and similar influences just SMT cosmetics or does the narrative ever use it as storytelling device? Is it just recognition you can make outside of the game? Calling mana / phys attack / environment / demons by fancy names?

Not sure if I like it or if I like it and find it preposterous at the same time.

>>125792203

....what?

Mana is a staple of JRPG's, not sure what you mean?

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>>125644301

>>125792438
Is eclectic mythology just aesthetics or does it serve a higher narrative purpose I guess

>>125792892
Well in the new game they're literally pitting gods against each others and their idiologies so take from that what you will

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>>125644301

>>125793029
Sounds like cosmetics.