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/xivg/ - Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward General

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Calm down edition

>Current Event: Free Login Campaign: December 1st - 31st ( Free 96 Hours )
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/0bedb1c411e10e90b863f223e0a18a3082fa5458

>Seasonal Event: The Starlight Celebration 2015:
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/2015/The_Starlight_Celebration

>Seasonal Event: Final Fantasy XI: The Maiden's Rhapsody:
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/2015/The_Maidens_Rhapsody

>Patch 3.15 Notes:
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/86c483a5b15766c988ee8db15f4eda117b9d66e4

>Resources, guides, Free Companies and Linkshells:
http://pastebin.com/27YG1xjJ

>Discord:
https://discord.gg/0gZmJPQElZ22e0py

>Last time on /xivg/:
>>125581058
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fuck
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>>125630276
Are there any femroes left in the game?
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And I just finished this
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>>125630613
My alt until I drop my sub because I'm too poor to continue hemorrhaging my money on this game.
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>>125630643
the two in the back really just look like men
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>>125630643
>tfw you will never have a femroe boob hat
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cute cat boys
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I want to take Alphinaud's virginity!
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>>125630810
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>>125630838
I want to watch him get his virginity taken in front of his sister!
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>>125630613
Of course not.

>>125630643
Cute
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>>125630810
hi hello??
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>mfw i never cared about relics
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>>125630613
What's a femroe
>>125630643
Neat.
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Awkward Elezen clergygirls
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I want to take minfilias virginity
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>>125631407

>throwing a hot dog down a hallway
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>>125631407
>implying her virginity is intact
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>>125631407
You're too slow
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>>125631407
>tfw ebins and shiposters ruined minfillas look for you.
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>>125631407
I want to dress a femroe up like minfilia and then take her virginity instead...
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>>125631461
she looks just like every other midlander tho, down to the vacuous dead stare
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Lalas are cute~

CUTE!
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How fun are monks at 60? I have all melee dps at 50, but don't know which to play. I like the animations on a lot of monks stuff, but I'm torn between that and nin.
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>The amount of butt-hurt that developed on this minor patch.
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>>125631603
I like MNK a lot. I just recently (see: 10 days ago) started playing it and it's been tons of fun, especially compared to DRG. I've never played NIN, so I can't compare it to that, but I find it to be fun.
:3
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>>125631603
monk and nin at 60 both play pretty much the same as 50 except you get to press a few more buttons
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>>125631438
>>125631443
>>125631459
>>125631461
>>125631496
Pray don't bully minfi she's the purest of maidens.
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So that last part of this poopsock weapon, if I'm reading this right it's crafting gated?
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>>125631978
How is saying I'd prefer a femroe in her outfit bullying her?
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>>125631978
>implying she doesn't have an orgy with the rest of the scions after they send you on your way to go do some bullshit
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>>125632000
what a shit post
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>>125631978
I'm sorry to break it to you anon, but when she got captured by the garleans... Well let's just say she hasn't been pure in a long time.
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>>125632294
is there a doujin of her being brutally raped? would fap to to be completely honest with you family
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>>125631594
Pretty cute!
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>>125630613
>>125630643
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>>125631978

>implying Thancred wasn't balls deep in that before you even shoved up
>implying Livia didn't force-fuck her with her shotgun gauntlets
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>>125632413
Cute indeed.
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>>125631594
>>125632413
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>>125631496

>gives massive torpedo tits to every race
>never seen it on max bust femroe

Maybe it's for the best, the world and my dick aren't ready for that
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>>125632695
There's one that keeps running around in ildy. I can't work up the nerve to talk to her...
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>>125630810
Smug cat girls!
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>>125632416
>oddeyes
gtfo shrek
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xth for autism
maybe i'll make friends when I make it to 60
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How do I make another free trial account? I tried just making another SE account but I'm not registered.
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>>125631594
I want to be cute
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>>125631594
>approach a lala and ask if they want to queue or do something
>they act distant
>see them later talking to another lala

Damn racists
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So what's so bad about this new relic grind?
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>>125633858
Not much. Maybe the whole 3 atma per zone thing, but most people who started this morning are done already.

People are bitching that the final step takes weeks.

IMO only bad part about the entire thing is needing shit from crafters AGAIN.
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>>125633858
my favorite job's weapon does not have [best secondary stat] and [2nd best secondary]

it's also not smug enough
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>>125633858
Pretty much people are complaining that the grind is too much or that it's not interesting and brings nothing new. That being that you have to run old content.
It's funny that people were complaining before that the old content is worthless nowadays and there's not much reason to run them. Now people do have a reason.
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>>125632695
It works better with those paler/grey roe, but here you go.
I don't think the bust slider does anything, mines set to half.
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>>125634341
so people who play this game are just losers

got it
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>>125634390
No, it does something. Hers are about the size of her head each.
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Who /not quitting/ here?
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>aether adders manage to blow a 400 point advantage in seal rock

badders gonna bad
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>>125634390
I don't get what the fuss is about. They look like they sag.
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>>125634390
wtf

that looks way better on your roe than it does mine
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>>125632510
>implying thancred isn't plowing everyone's favor c@slut
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When will SE ever make relevant open world content?

Boss FATEs are interesting but bring nothing at all other than vanity, barding and minions.
Hunts was something, but it can really create some nasty drama. Why won't they improve on it?
I still wonder why there aren't any open world dungeons yet.
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>>125634537
Thats what I meant, it seems to create a flat expansion not dependent on the actual character setting.

>>125634704
I did it for the hair, while I was a different race.

>>125634750
Thanks? I'm sure it looked fine.
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>>125633858
800 alex runs, 40000 allied seals, 26k poetics and law, millions of gils for HQ items.
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>>125634826
>I'm sure it looked fine.
It really didn't. She looked really out of place in it.
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>>125634514
Actually, people who are complaining about the grind believe that their weapon would become obsolete in the next patch.
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>>125632695
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>Someone goes out of their way to ignore me
>Keep trying anyways
Who is that person, xivg?
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>>125635120
My friend who didn't respond to my mail..
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>>125635120
my crush
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>>125633567
But you are already cute, hun.
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>>125635015
>>125634390

We posting Minfiliaroes now?
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Which healer is the best in the current meta? Which is the worst?
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>>125633339
Fuck off before I post your asshole you ugly retarded slut.
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>>125635586
The best is WHM, the worst is AST but I wouldn't call it the worst, though.
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>>125635586
SCH AST respectively
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>>125634805
There are a lot of wasted landscapes in the new zones that could be used as dungeons or for trials (Like A Relic Reborn: Chimera).

>>125634651
Me but I am disappointed.

Yoshida-sama, you were the chosen one!
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Post your crushes name. Anonymously make them feel good.
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>>125636187
Awena Marette
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>>125636187
Emina Sha'ressa.
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>>125636187
Shirou Kuma
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post smug

>>125635836
do a1-a4 with my static on your bard
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>>125636263
Liking married women wow! So risky.
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>>125636187
they don't go to this general
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>>125636516
Don't hate.
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>>125636474
Proci already asked me to go with him tomorrow

Unless you're going with them. I can go with Olivia idgaf
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i don't want to play anymore
bye
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>>125636574
yeah i was gonna go with them because i will be busy on the weekend which is when my group wants to go

here have a fucboi
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>>125635665
I don't even post much ;-;
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>>125636597
>>125636597
wait!

cam for me first you lala slut
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>>125633858
>>125634109
>IMO only bad part about the entire thing is needing shit from crafters AGAIN.
This is why I'm mad. I expected this at some point in the future. Not day fucking one. This shit's going for 40+mil. Even assuming it's day one jew-ery, 2.X zodiac crafting phase was expensive when 3.0 wasn't even a month old.
Otherwise I don't mind that we need to run fates or older content, that's basically the norm for relic. CT roulette when
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>>125636664
WHERES THE GORINBG LADE FUCKBOY
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>>125636686
no not now, i have to go
bye
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>>125636664
Ya I'll swap you groups I didnt really wanna raid tomorrow anyways

Just remind me sometime later
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>finish the ffxi quest
>gear doesn't work with my glamour
It's nice though.
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>>125636080
Tell me about it. There's also lots of suspicious places they could've made a dungeon of though. Especially the tunnels and ruins on Thanalan and Black Shroud. I really hope SE brings the open world dungeons they've promised since 2.0 (Lol)
who is that qt guy tho
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[10:37 p.m.](Kirito Tia) Fell Cleave! <se.06>
[10:37 p.m.](Kirito Tia) Heh, nothing personal... <se.06>
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>>125636187
Saeha Mugen
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Hey there, I quit around a year ago and was thinking of trying out the expansion anf had some questions.
-Are white mage still good?
-Is Pure still around and is it still cliquey?
-Does Leukka still play? Him and some pink haired midlander girl were pretty much the only people who would do dungeons with me and helped organize a group to get me my relic so they are the only ones that stuck out.
-Is fishing still fun?

Thanks!
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>finally get machinist to 60
>look up rotation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFA1zzbwSwc

Someone save me, what have i got myself into.
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>>125635576
What the fuck kind of resolution is that?

Also: since when could the flying cat sit on yoir shoulder?
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>>125637532
The rotation itself is really easy, the opener on the other hand just requires muscle memory honed from hitting dummies for half an hour
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>>125637471
Yes
Kinda
Kinda
Yes
Chitanda a slut.
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>>125637471
>-Are white mage still good?
Even better.
>Is Pure still around and is it still cliquey?
The PURE you knew before is no more, they changed their name but the people from /xivg/ are still there.
>Does Leukka still play? Him and some pink haired midlander girl were pretty much the only people who would do dungeons with me and helped organize a group to get me my relic so they are the only ones that stuck out.
I think so.
>Is fishing still fun?
Yes.
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>>125637471
Yes
I don't know what that is, but I'll assume it's related to baldung, which I am thankfully not even on the same datacenter as.
^
Yes
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Which balmung FC has the best players?
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>>125637471
Yes

It's still around, its cliques consist of the ERP'ers and the dudebros pretty much.

Nope.

Yes.
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>>125637471
Fishing is not only fun, but easier to be a little profitable now.

>>125637532
MCH's not that bad, honestly. Once the opener comes easily the rest isn't so hard.
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>>125637950
rarex
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People complain about ffxivs butts. But is there really an mmo that did butts right? Other than castanics from Tera they all look pretty flat or mishapen
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>>125638026
Skyforge literally had a butt slider
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>>125637663
>>125637984

I don't even know when the opener stops in that video. everything looks so complicated compared to Pre-Heavensward DRG rotation.
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>>125638070
Too bad it was putrid shit on a mountain of hot garbage...
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>>125638026
>But is there really an mmo that did butts right?
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>>125638128
The opener stops when all the buffs run out and wildfire procs, basically.
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>>125636187
Mizuki Rikimaru
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Anyone on balmung want to be my temporary BF while I wait for my real one to get online
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>>125638283
Ok, name?
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I want to FUCK Theomocent
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>>125638283
Sure!
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>>125637471
Every time people bring him up you kill him just a little more. Leukka still plays on Balmung, is still really nice, and still wants nothing more than to distance himself from /vg/ so stop bringing him up. If you do resub he might still be around but if you're the sort of person who posts anime shit in the thread he probably won't want to talk to you.
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>>125637378
lol why
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>>125638614
>>125638614
Wants to distance himself? No retard ever gets away from the taint that is here. Especially the ERP creeps.
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>>125637961
but leukka still plays
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>>125638614
Shut the fuck up, Leukka.
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>>125638473

No fucking kidding.

Sitting through that quest made me doubt my sexuality. For a second I thought that he was actually a woman since the other guy kept being flirty with him.

I'm fucking done for
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>>125638724
[spoilers]is his voice still cute? [/spoilers]
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>>125638696
That's because everyone here is an obsessed creep who clings on to months old drama, even drama over a year old. People here can't let go of things because they're retarded manchildren, the amount of e-celeb garbage that goes on here, you'd think TMZ hired people to come here or something.
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>>125637067
Idk, a stranger I met doing quests.
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We all know what Yoshi and the team are doing wrong, but what arethey doing RIGHT?
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>>125639073
Recycling
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>people literally bringing up year old drama
Let the blessed catboy rest in peace
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>>125638724
Post more pics or you're full of shit
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>>125638987
>drama
>"Let's textfuck"
>"No, sorry"
>"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>months later
>EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
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>>125639073
The immersion/ambiance of the game.

The music.

The fashion/dress up.

The races.
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>>125639139
>Leukka will never be a catgirl again
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>>125639139
>>125638987
>>125638987
Are you his fanclub? Chill the fuck out.
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If I buy gametime on kinguin it will work with the ps4 version right? Since its on your square enix account
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>>125639361
No I'm somebody who sees that same TMZ shit happen with tons of people here.
>>125639324
>all of pure, most of wings.txt
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>>125638918
he he sounds very cute

>>125639240
i don't really take many with him, have a le midlander one
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Anyone on Tonberry want to be my temporary BF while I wait for my ERP partner to get online???
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>>125639665
I'm not sure about BF but I can hang out a bit though anon? Limsa?
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>>125639737
Sure just PM me when you're there.
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>>125639665
shut up ippiki
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>>125638639
cute kitty
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>>125639883
I'm there now anon, I ahhh... don't know who you are though.
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>>125639512
Bullshit, I bet you'd never defend anyone else going through that.
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What drama are we talking about exactly?
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How are bards nowadays? I hear they are total shit dps, but get brought because of songs. Just trying to decide which dps to focus my effort on, I mainly play tank.
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>>125640094
ERPers destroyed a free company a year ago, the leader had enough and quit the fc, quit the general and quit all the linkshells. Because the cocklust of this general is too much to let go of a cute catboy, people cannot stop bringing him up every couple of months.
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>>125638441
>>125638553
sorry was in a dungeon
Let's meet somewhere first, you can pick
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Where the foot-worshippers at.
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>>125639073
This game is really comfy, and the music is okay, can't hold a candle to 1.0 music was though.
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>>125640547
Pretty much this he is pretty cute to be fair...
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>>125640547
>ERPers destroyed a free company
How does such a thing happen
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>>125639997
Nyaloise Lalant.
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>>125640587
Are you a cute boy?
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>>125640736
Gossip, cliques, and actively shit talking one another anonymously or openly to score ebin points like Shanoa did
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>>125640698
>>125640698
>>125640547
>Retard tries to push a no lewd or flirting in FC chat
>Gets BTFO'd because 4channers love talking about cocks
>Plays the victim

Seriously?
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>>125640856
>"kill yourself" not anyone in there

Not enema
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>>125640859
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Where can I see images of the new relic weapons?
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>>125641065
Reddit
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>>125641003
You've gotta admit, though, this game attracts the biggest attention-whoring hyperfags in the world. Where else would you find people saying "look at my cute cat boy" and then have everyone fawn over it?

I feel gayer and gayer just playing this game, man.
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>>125640960
nope, sorry
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>>125634109
>>125636734
Of course anything that's crafting related is going to get jewed by crafters, that's their only sense of importance they can boast. It works pretty alright for those that live in more cooperative communities where crafters assist their fellow man should their mats are provided. This was present in spiritbonding in novus, desynthing in zodiac, now specialist in animay. Unfortunately those outside that have to deal with the jews and will cry the most.

Given the amount of grind needed. They should have either added diadum as well or have released this at the start of 3.1 or even earlier.
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>>125640859
have I finally achieved ebin status? am I really being shitposted right now?
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>>125641542
Nice tatas.

>>125640634
Have some N64.
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>>125641003
>actually defending the degenerate ERP "culture"

Balmung everyone
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>>125641751
>>125641751
ERP culture is fine. The real thing we need to squash is the CYBERING culture that goes on around here. Fuck cybering grown ass man relationships.
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>>125641828
>ERP culture is fine.
I'm fucking done. Good night xivg
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>>125641828
>ERP culture is fine.
you don't actually browse this thread do you.
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>>125641542
I'm just upset my alt won't be able to do relic weapon because /1milgil/ life. Also, >>125641703
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>>125642059
>>125642002
>doesn't acknowledge cyber e-dating
enablers pls go
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>>125642059
>implying you fags aren't nuts
>>125641828
Usually I instantly hook-up with no story, I play how my character is built and describe the action. Is that cybering?
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Do I pass, reddit?
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>>125641751
> Ultros has a single fc that is still strong and active since 2.0

> Balmung has tons of splinter fcs with members that hate/shitpost each other

geez i wonder what the cause is
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>>125642264
>strong
>as many people on balmung raid as ultros but the /vg/ community chock full of ERPers clears before ultros does
Get your shit together senpai
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>>125642264
But Ultros still has erp
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>>125630613
until i get my hands on a fantapack
im so bad..
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>>125642264
>ZR
>Strong
>Active.
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>>125642171
What does your second quote mean?
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I just unsubbed and bought dragon quest heroes

I remembered what I played video games for: fun
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>>125641703
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Are there any dogi like clothes in this game? I'm leveling PGL and I wanna dress up line Goku.
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>>125642552
nice tits
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>>125642552
>>125642620
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>>125642581
At level 60 there's a shirt that looks like a sleeveless dogi but you can't dye it and it isn't orange.
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>>125642171
The time it takes to do all the non crafting activities, you will be able to figure out a sustainable way to acquire the materials and met people that are willing to assist without jewing.
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>2015
>still no "all available dyes" option while dyeing equipment
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>>125643448
PS3 Limitationsâ„¢.
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Aim for the moon /xivg/. Even if you miss... you'll land among the stars...
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>>125643717
>Harp planning to fire Aether into space.
cold
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Good night everyone
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>>125643717
But I can't breathe on the moon or among the stars! I'd die!
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I never asked for this

>>125643928
Night
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What NA realm/server isn't dead?
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>>125644171
Aether

Balmung and Gilgamesh

Don't trust ZR, Ultros a dead.
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>>125644171
Leviathan is objectively the best NA server atm. Most of the players are on eastern time so it should be open.
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>>125644316
That's not Excalibur.
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>>125644308
>Balmung
Good luck finding someone to do anything but erp
>Gilgamesh
shanty town with designated afking citys
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>>125644308
Isn't it impossible to create an account on balmung and Gilgamesh?
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>>125644467
Yup, neet role players never log off and most players on gilgamesh died waiting on a carry.
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>>125644467
If everyone actually puts their money where their mouth is and quit en masse, it should become a lot easier very soon.
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So Leviathan or Excalibur?
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>>125644797
Either ones fine
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>>125644449
>Good luck finding someone to do anything but erp
>Balmung has more A4S clears than Ultros
???

>shanty town with designated afking citys
>Still has more active players than Ultros
???

>>125644467
You'll have to transfer in.
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>>125644668
This, so much.

>this game sucks!
>yoshi is a hack!

>these same people remain subbed to the game several months at a time, or have people paying for them (same end result)
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would you be bros with this roe?
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>>125643358
How do I schedule an appointment...
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>>125644729
>my lala
...
>>125644797
its pretty even, id say. either or. excal has a good rep for being what gilga is now, though. (raid/prog)
i had a guy come back to our fc and complain about levi's community being kinda too talkative in a toxic way but when i was there (mind me its a year ago) it was pretty nice. id say either is a fair deal cause i have heard nothing really bad of levi to be honest

>>125644980
>open thumbnail
>eyes are wider than before
woah..
would bro tho!
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>>125644096
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>>125633339
>>125636673

What level are you now?
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>>125644908
>>Balmung has more A4S clears than Ultros
And I care why
>?????
>>Still has more active players than Ultros
>active
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>>125644096
>so tsundere
>>
>accuracy
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>>125641751
You know I play on Balmung and the only lewd thing is one time when I was afk someone did "slaps your bottom" emote to me.
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>>125645650
Read is a serial ass-saulter.
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>tfw the game dies just as soon as you became a dragon

BnS will have dragons too, right?
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What's the JP community's insight on the new patch though?
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>>125645825
A much milder version of what the english communitiy's has been.
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>>125645798
>BnS
That shit will die a year later.
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>>125645897
Sooo mildly casual?
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Man, as much as I like this game, its really easy to tell its on the verge of fucking bombing completely in NA, if it hasn't happened already, especially with this update.

>>125645916
As someone who has been playing bns every beta weekend, for a while now, its honestly generic shit, doesn't do anything well, doesn't stand out in any way, just as meh as you could imagine.

Its not going to die a year later, it'll be dead a month after launch, guaranteed.

If 14 dies, I have no idea where I'll be moving.
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>>125645948
I checked their general discussion forum and no one seems to be salty about the patch.
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>>125644797
Well they're both full right now so I can't create a character in either.
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As a Dragoon, I've been using Fracture as my cross-class ability, but I'm wondering if it's even worth it. The timer is kinda short on it compared to other debuffs/DoTs that I have and the potency is 20. Should I still use it?
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>tfw it's working.
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>>125646141
>As a Dragoon, I've been using Fracture as my cross-class ability
Yes being a retard is expected of Dragoons.
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>>125645650
Who are you? I generally only do that to people I know.

>>125645752
{/taunt}
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>>125645948
The majority seem similarly displeased with how the relic grind was implemented (though not the fact that it's a grind). However, they're not nearly as salty about it, because it's not really beyond their expectations.

Why the vocal majority of the english community had some perplexing idea that obtaining the new relic weapons would somehow be vastly different from the previous is anyone's guess.
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>>125646117
Aren't JP normally mild about everything?
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>>125646184
Yeesh, man, I was only asking. I mean I look up cross-class abilities for Dragoons and that's usually listed as the recommended ones to take, but I'm thinking it isn't that great.
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How's the new monk relic weapon? From the stat weights I've seen its either bis, or near bis.
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>>125646241
Probably, since it's in Japanese nature to be courteous.
The people in the NA forums are so insufferable, feel entitled and are so salty all the damn time.
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>>125646237
>vocal Americans
>complaining because life is too hard
colour me surprised
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>>125646241
The one that are conditioned to be emotionless. Darwinism has eliminate the emotion gene by way of suicide
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>>125630276
why do people play this fucking game
it's slow, it's boring
the dungeons are never challenging, literally never
and they couldn't be
because if they were, you couldn't outplay them
there is not strategy to anything
there's never any communication
the story is horseshit
the gameplay feels disconnected, there's a 1000ms attached to every server-check on position or movement with regard to spells or attacks, it's like fuck man
fuck this fucking thing
and you can only post 20 things on the auction house?
gladiators just spam flash in dungeons?
man am i not playing this game right or what
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>>125646551
Underrated post.
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>>125646551
Bait.
>man am i not playing this game right or what
Yes.
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>>125646241
I don't know, I remember something around a year ago that had the JP community in just as much of an uproar if not more than NA/EU. And they were pretty brutal in their criticism of Yoshi-P. I think it might have been the personal housing prices.
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>>125646551
Cry some more you salty-assed faggot
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>>125646760
IT WAS A QUESTION
FIRST LINE
FIRST LINE
F
R
ST
LYYYYNNNNE

pls respond
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>>125646551
>and you can only post 20 things on the auction house?
Not if you buy two more retainers for a 26% increase in sub cost. Please look forward to it.
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>>125646865
It was a question and yet there was no question mark.

So you're bad at the game AND at English? Geez.
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>>125646114
BnS also has been taken over by sjw just like FFXIV has with all it's political correctness and censorship.
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should I do it?
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>>125647113
Be the cute girl
>>
Cactaur or Sarg?
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>>125647113
um, no. what's wrong with you!?!?
at least become a cute midlander boy
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>>125647113
fuck no
>>
i like the game
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>>125646195
Just some rando male roe. It might not've even been you; could have been some other lewdster.

I expected Balmung to be cruise control to lewd town, but so far I haven't even accidentally caught the gaze of a cute c@tboi or elezen.
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>>125647498
I still like the game to be honest family
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>>125647498
I was looking for a luxury game to play on the side, and my friend was playing this. Two weeks later, friendship is terminated and I make new friends. Now I can't stop playing because of nakama.
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>>125646551
>and you can only post 20 things on the auction house?
per retainer, of which you get 4 by default.
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>>125647960
>friendship is terminated
What happened?
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>>125648017
>of which you get 4 by default.
What fantasy world are you living in?
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how many of you no life faggots have all the crystals?
>>
Is Hyperion dead?
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>>125648224
Is it only 2? I could swear it was 4.
Do I get extra for being legacy? I'm pretty sure I don't have any extra fees.
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>Even the forum is sick of SE bullshit
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>>125648232
Me. you didn't have a zeta?
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>>125648308
I don't know if Legacy gets anything extra, but for the rest of us, it's only two.
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>>125648028
I said something stupid (which I've deduced may have piled up on some other stupid shit I said), right after they bought me something, too. Never wanna feel that way again.
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>>125648308
You got two. Plus automatically being able to change your appearance the first time you logged on in ARR.
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>>125646942
everyone is MEAN
MEAN
MEAN
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>>125648419

nah I just hit 60 not too long ago
>>
tfw no eb
>>
>haven't been playing much lately
>tried to log in for the first time in a while last night, maintenance
>log in today "So what was maintenance about?"
> 3.0 relic
>its the exact same shit as 2.0 relic except even more tedious
>atma step is 18 fucking atmas


Hahaha fuck you SE, time to unsub. You are some fucking unoriginal hacks, jesus just repeat that fucking formula!
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>TFW you and him have a fight, but reconcile 10 minutes later.
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What is really better on nin, crit/speed or crit/det?
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>The boyfriend wants to see the jar where you keep your pickled penis.
"n0."
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>>125648819
Naoki "File me as .gif because all I do is loop" Yoshida
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>>125648417
The forum is sick of SE bullshit ever since 1.0 though.
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I like the story
I only play the game for the story
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>>125648845
>TFW he masturbates for you.
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>>125649049
The story doesn't hold a candle to some previous Final Fantasy titles, but the lore is good nonetheless.
I just play this game to get comfy.
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>>125647498
same
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>>125649160
I'd say it's the best out of the more recent FF titles, but that's not very hard to achieve.
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>>125649049
The story is alright, the lore is top notch.
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>>125649081
>I at the end of the name
>>
NOOO!!

REEEE!!!

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO LIKE THIS GAME!!! GET OUT GET OUT GET OUUUUT
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>>125649242
True, except for FFXII and some of FFXI.
FFXIV's story could've been better if it was executed properly.
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Here's a free recruitment code if any new players are interested: ZPCQYFRW
You enter it in the Mogstation and we both get some cool stuff to help us out!
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>>125649467
I'm a new plaer but I don't care about that shit
Just post your butt
>>
The new relic's first step being the same as zeta is pretty lazy, and step 3 seems a bit overkill.

Then again, those weapons hold a candle to A4S on some classes right? I'm not complaining that some BiS takes a grind. I just wish they could've spiced it up a bit.
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>>125649656
c@ butt
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>>125649467
Does this work if I'm on the trial?
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>>125649701
Nope.
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>>125649701
Nah, after you buy your first month of sub you can enter it!
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>>125649904
You mean before he subscribes, meaning the first free 30 days they'll get because he can't input the code after they subscribed.
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>>125649695
>no bushy tail
6/10 would allow to sit on face, but wouldn't enjoy it as much.
nice choice in colour for the shorts.
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>>125649049
The story is a big driver for me to play the game. As cheesy as it can be at times I enjoy it and the lore. Once I finish up the story quests I'll probably grow more weary of the game, but for now I think it's a lot of fun.
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It's almost been about a day since the update went live. How far have most of you gotten in the new relic quest?

If you're not doing the relic quest: What's your favorite holiday song?
https://youtu.be/XFLOh44P5z0
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>>125650129
i forgot the slogan
h-happy holidays mr drier!
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>>125650129
Please no anime, videogame or metal mu-
>op posts metal straight away

fucking hell
>>
is dark knight fun
or is it a bat class
>>
I've been in the mists for FUCKING EVER AND STILL HAVE NOT GOT A SINGLE CRYSTAL
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>>125650185
Seems like everyone did. I'd give it to you anyway. Steam id?

>>125650236
If it makes you feel any better, https://youtu.be/7yujdpWDlAM is my second favorite..
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>>125650129
Had some shit crystal drops, looked up the stat distribution and realized it probably wasn't worth the grind.
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>>125650337
please buy a 5 month sub, youll get it eventually

Just remember that youre working towards something and visiting old content is fun and rewarding experience :-)
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>>125650325
Yes.
>bat class
What?
>>125650337
Pray harder for the RNG god's mercy.
>>
>>125650487
are you slow
>>
>>125650487
>>125650470

I know I got the fire ice and wind ones in like 15 minutes total I've been here for an hour and a half already and got none
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>>125650129
There's too many to pick so I'm just gonna go with a classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN7LW0Y00kE
>>
Can someone post the CG x Ippiki EB vows.
>>
Was looking at the relic for DRGs and it looks like shit

is it shit?
>>
>>125650661
DRG, NIN and SMN relics are complete shit, literally worse than Thordan weapons.
>>
>>125650717

doesn't SE know what stats each class needs why would they do that?
>>
>>125650536
Why?
>>
>everyone is incredibly huttburt that the relic is a grind of old content that is no longer run as often.
>or that there was no new content specifically for the relic like 2.0
>they claim to unsub due to this "mockery"
>at the same time, the majority of new players all came at or after the release of HW
It's like they weren't here for the prevoius parts or something.

I don't even know what to say to them. I mean sure, that's a lot of alex runs and shit, but we have a choice in how we grind instead of fates for forever/Garuda HM on bonus/tamtara runs/ and cancerous animus books. Should we really just give them 210 weapons for whining? So what if it takes 2 months? How long does it take to get a A4S clear nowadays?
>>
>>125650850
what's another name for batman
>>
>>125651043
Gunshots in a movie theater.
>>
>>125650965
Someone calculated it and if you spread out roulettes, 3-5 Alex runs a day and beast tribe stuff you could be done in 13 days, even less if you are already capped on poetics and law.

Sure, it's still a grind, but people that got gud earned theirs, you have to as well fucboi.
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>>125650618
Very nice! You just can't beat the classics.
>>
>>125651043
What?
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>>125650129
Still doing the dungeon part, at Sohm Al.
Doing it with bf so progress is only made when we are both around
A lot of complaints about relic but it's pretty much exactly what I expected. Will be working on it little by little for a bit.

https://youtu.be/V5wCL8dB06I
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>>125651207
pretending to be retarded is the lowest form of comedy
>>
>>125651118
NA players are always the whiniest bunch. They could put 210 weapons at a vendor and they would still complain that it either didn't have any new content or wasn't directly mailed to them and they therefore have to waste their lives poopsocking.
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Do your need your relic(aka worthless shit without crit) equipped to get precisions?
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>>125651118
Yeah the number of days really equates to how hard it is to get something, such great content.
>>
>>125651118
13 days? Don't you need to do like 600 alex? Not 60.
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>>125650965
People expect too much from a minor patch that will introduce a grindfest.
>>125651259
Really?
>>
>>125651275
Yeah. I'd just enjoy having something to do. I mean, free off-class XP since everyone is doing FATEs and an easy as fuck i200 weapon. Why not.

>>125651318
If you don't like it go clear A4S then, I see nothing wrong with adding an alternative that's tedious if you can't git gud.

Or just grind Thordan, because a lot of those relics have shit stat allocation.

>>125651360
Roulettes and beast tribes were taken into account as well. You can spread it out.
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>>125651459
But roulettes are for jobs lower than 60.
>>
>>125651436
what's your name and server so i know who to stay away from
>>
I wish Paladin's healing ever actually came into play
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>>125651589
Sorry..
Gilgamesh, let's be best friends!
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>>125651459
That's 30 days with 5 alex runs per day
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>All the wagecucks wanting what was made for NEETs
they brought this upon themselves
>>
>>125651731
Mainstory roulette is garbage though
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>>125651731
Yeah, Beast Tribe stuff probably makes the difference there.

I'd consider grinding it over 2-3 weeks if the stats weren't absolute shit for my job.
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>used poetics on bones
Oh what a mistake, I should buy shells and you should too.
The less A2 the better.
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>>125651839
I'm just gonna take it easy, myself. Use most of the stuff to level up another job where I can.

People wanting this sooner rather than later are just murdering themselves for no good reason.
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>>125651735

fuck off retard why does this meme imply EVERYONE who has a job works 60+ hours a week I only work 40 a week and have more than enough time to do whatever the FUCK I want.
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>>125651983
>used poetics on a shitty Magitek sword before I was aware they would play into the relic
>said sword was also replaced 5 minutes later by a sword given to me by the main quest
FUCK ME
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>>125651983
Oh right, A2.

A2 in the Duty Finder.

Yeah I'm definitely not doing that.

>>125652015
Yeah, that's probably best. For people using it to level off-classes, you get a piss-easy i200 weapon and can use the ESOs on something better.

People like to complain a lot.
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Been subbed since 1.19

Just cancelled they're driving this game into the ground on purpose it's the only way they can manage this shit.
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>>125652134
>rebuilds the MMO after it fails
>is now purposely trying to make it fail
What the fuck are you thinking anon
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>mfw had pld at 54 and been fate grinding with all these retards for FREE XP
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So how many of the oldguard are still here?
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>don't like Prototype Gordian
>or Red Thief
>or Artifact2
>or Void Ark
>still wearing Asuran
What all are we getting in 3.2?
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>>125652174
Apparently the same thing square is.
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>>125652228
epic post
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>>125652234
who cares lol you look like an ugly fuckin shrek tranny no matter what you wear

christ what were you thinking
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>>125652234
I tell you what we're not getting. More goddamn room on my retainers while I become a junk-yard retard who can't bear to throw away anything.
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>>125652025
I guess the meme implies that the people who work full time want things as fast as the poopsockers who are always going to grind things as fast as possible.

Getting this bootyblasted over being called a cuck is unbecoming of you, Anon.
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>>125652454
>Styling your retainers after yourself.
Nice.
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>>125652283
Just trying to figure out which manchildren are still around.
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>>125652530
i'm still around but i'm not quite the manchild you're looking for
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>>125652134
You didn't even cancel your sub while playing 1.x?
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>>125652183
tfw gay
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>>125652773
its an epic meme /b/ro of course its not real
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>>125652773
How could that be possible? How could someone like 1.0 more than Yoshi's game? They're lying. No one can like anything more than ARR.
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>>125652525
I've been dicking around with the benchmark character creator seeing what I would look like as other races, which coincided terribly well with needing a new retainer.

I'm teaching him to fish! I may also assume his form if I get bored.
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>>125652907
1.0 was an even terrible game though. Don't get sarcastic with me.
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I don't want to wake up tomorrow.
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>>125652134
>3.0's relic causes him to quit
>not 2.0
>not the "whoops the double meld failed, time to start over" 1.0 relic

I want to ask, why now?
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>>125653094
neither do i desu
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>>125653154
Honest to god I've heard the stupidest shit from people regarding this relic, it's like all these people never did a single step of the old relic until each stage was nerfed to help people push on to the next stage.
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>>125653094
Good, cuz if you do i'll find you and kill you myself.
>>
What's the name of your favorite ebin?

Remember, we're all anonymous here.
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>>125653819
Emina Sha'ressa.
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>>125653895
fuck off alex
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>>125653895
Same.
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Getting bullied is suffering
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>>125654108
you like it
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>>125654239
I DONT
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>having a zeta weapon will give you a huge advantage when the new relics are added!
>wanted to hold on to my zeta anyways
>literally farmed all 18 crystals in less than 5 hours

Why is Yoshi a pathological liar?
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>>125654450
yea you do
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>>125653895
>>125653935
.
>>125653932
>

I am bored as FUCK and can't sleep. Who wants to play games god damn.
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>>125654539
If its games with you then I do
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>>125654539
kill your orbiters and then yourself
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When will they ever stop increasing from the highest item level?
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>>125654502
go and die again,nerd tank
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>>125652183
same t b h
Got 10 crystals and lvl 56 in a couple of hours of grinding, which is awesome because I can't bear paladin gameplay in dungeons while in fates I can push my flash macro and alt tab
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Are we going to need the realm to be reborn again to salvage the game for 4.0?
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>>125655786
>Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Remix
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>>125655953
>Final Fantasy XIV: Final Mix
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>>125655953
>not Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn 2: Electric Boogaloo
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>>125655131
that's my secret
i'm always dead
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>>125656113
>not Aetheric Boogaloo
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>>125655786
It's kind of easy to fix the problems of the game, SE just doesn't know what to do and they need more time to fix it.
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>>125656179
because you're a bad tank
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What a cutie, maybe he'll marry me
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>>125656451
gonna have to concur
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>>125656794
>a few days on gilga and shyv is already being cucked back to death.
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>>125656353
It's not easy and problems are very deep-rooted (networking across several platforms, numerous areas of the foundation dilapidated or completely abandoned). Were it easy they would have fixed it by now, seeing as they coast by on simple work. Just aping what they see other games do will only get them so far.
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>>125657021
Then I guess they need more time then. 3.2??
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>>125656904
>ERPing outside of the Quicksand
>some faggot starts RPing as a cop by himself
>decides he's going to report to his imaginary constabulary that people are ERPing
>he's a c@boi
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>>125657159
lmao rekt
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>>125657159
Is he wearing a swimsuit at least?
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>>125657108
No, I don't think it will ever change. The game will likely go free-to-play in 4.0 with only expansions costing $$ so it can avoid handling the ocean of shit it needs to handle to become a truly great game.
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>>125656967
what?
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>>125657259
>free-to-play
{/doubt}
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>>125657250
No, he's got a whole outfit for this and even calls himself the ERPolice in his search info.
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>>125657497
>erpolice
hahaha
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>>125657497
>whole outfit
What the fuck kind of cat boy..
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>>125657454
Do you really think this game's base is worthy of a subscription fee? They're are a thing of the past. Relics may get by on it (XI/EQ) but not modern "giants" (the names you see in the news every month).

If not free it will present subscription alternatives similar to Warcraft/EVE to where you can pay in-game. Gotta mimic more shit.
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>>125657730
SE is not willing to make any of their MMOs F2P. It doesn't matter how recent it is. FFXI has been dead for years, it's /still/ active and it never went through the F2P phase.

A F2P model will not give this game any better treatment.
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>>125657497
>A Dirty Server Where the Concept of Clean Living Doesn't Exist.
He should start his own free company and obtain a formerly lewd side kick to help him pass out pamphlets warning of STDs and try to curb other degenerate dangers.
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>>125656794
Soon(tm)
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>>125657985
It's funnier if he's still lewd but the main police officer doesn't notice.

Lots of police and sex puns. Works a charm.
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>>125657497
what's his ign?
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>>125657984
Well, A Realmm Reborn's primary goal wa market saturation (PS3/4 instead of only PC), to recoup a loss. F2P would see a resurging player count since a lot of people don't subscribe simply because there's not much to do once you've ridden all the attractions.

The medium is changing and it's not unthinkable for them to adapt as well.
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>>125644096
Berke Berk and the Berke Bunch
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>>125658097
>Hands the sidekick some handcuffs to arrest a ERPer.
>Turns around for five seconds.
>Assistant has hand cuffed themselves to a nearby street lamp and the criminal is long gone.

>Catboy hands his deputy a taser for self defense.
>They take it home with them that night.
>Comes back the next day drooling and tells them they wore the battery out.

>Hands them a bundle of partially censored wanted posters for a nudist.
>The assistant runs off with them.
>Later the officer finds one of the posters hung up and asks himself what are these water stains on this?
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>>125658430
berke bacharach
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>>125658513
A true orifice of the law.
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I want to fucket the bucket!
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>>125658394
Player count doesn't matter if they do not profit from them. If they went ahead with a F2P model, they would design content as an increase of revenue by also implementing a Pay to Win design, instead of player satisfaction to retain their subscription with sub-based MMOs.
F2P also attracts the worst kinds of playerbase, and it would encourage to more botting as there is no paywall anymore, then the game experience would be far worse than before.

It's not even a medium, it's an absolute joke. It's the reason MMOs are becoming a joke of a genre, too.

SE could make FFXIV a better game again if they wanted to, and that the development team get their shit together, but I won't expect anything to change anytime soon until subs drop to half or more and they take that as a reminder.
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>>125658906
>and it would encourage to more botting
Because botting is so discouraged right now?
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>>125658965
Emphasis to 'more'.
The people who bot in this game either crash the market or are lazy retards who couldn't level their jobs and classes on their own when leveling on this game is laughably easy.
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Finally got my left side geared! Now to wait for roulettes to reload so I can start working on the right side.
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>>125659537
Is this a tranny?
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>>125659537
you look like some mong that took hrt pills and just started browsing tumblr
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dead thread post cute boys
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>>125659870
you first, oink
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>>125659870
cute thread post dead boys
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>>125659870
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>>125659905
i just did...
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I always find it that the people with the most ugly or bland characters have the most mental disorders which just happens to be most people in this thread
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>>125660053
Shut up ugly

Go back to catgirl and be a family woman
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>>125659870
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post dads
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>>125660117
>tfw no mental disorders
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>>125660235
>tfw nothing but mental disorders
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>>125660117
>tfw disabled
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>>125660117
>ugly character
>autism so powerful i cant even speak with people online

dang . . . nail on the head
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>>125660117
>great looking character
>everyone still hates me
:)
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>>125660563
but your character is handsome
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>>125659870
what about cute cat girls
>>
you people have the personality of a brick

no wonder all you can post is short phrases and memes
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>>125660130
playing female characters feels weird now

>>125660680
no
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>>125660703
meme me
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>>125660765
what about now
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>>125660680
I'm on board with this.
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>>125660886
no
>>
Where the soft soles at
>>
>>125660703
the only trait we can glean from your post is that you're a whiny cunt
>>
>the last stage of this relic quest
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>>125660924
cute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>125660925
how about now

>>125660938
smothered in baby oil
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>>125660563
Can confirm
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>>125659870
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>>125660938
Don't take my gimmick damnit.
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Where the airstrike at
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>>125661097
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>>125660672
I was going more for creepy, but thank you for the compliment !

>>125660994
Just take it easy, and only do it when you're bored of doing other things ! No reason to rush if you do not enjoy it.
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>>125661184
Thanks friend.
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>>125659870
>Not really cute but posting regardless..
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>>125661296
you look like a lesbian
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>>125661410
Just like any other Midlander male. Thanks.
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>>125652454
Yes please.
>>
is gilgamesh almost open
like a few more hours or what
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>>125661772
Oh god I'm not there yet, I'm only onto my first extra retainer. It's nice having actual room in my own inventory now! That's... going to change rapidly.
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>>125661029
>>125660924
Hi c@s
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>>125659870
>>
>tfw all my friends have now quit
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>>125662028
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>>125662304
>tfw mine haven't
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>>125662304
Make some new ones. Or quit too if you want I ain't gonna hold you down.
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>>125662304
>having friends
>>
can i transfer from primal to aether
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>>125662542
Probably quit or not log in except on eso cap day, but I still gotta finish getting last 2 or 3 jobs to 60 first.

I've not even done the 3.1 MSQ yet either.
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>>125662659
Well 3.1 won't take you long and doesn't have any particularly interesting content tucked behind it.

>>125662557
Friends are like... buds.
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>>125662797
Anyone who has done that new school quest in 3.15, without spoilering it how can you sum it up?
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>>125659870
>>
Do you get tomestone rewards from undersized parties? Like the 100
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>>125662609
Idk can you
you can but you will have to pay the server transfer fee if you wanna move to the aether datacenter
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>>125662905
It's interesting, as far as world lore goes it's a pretty neat little insight into the Ishgardian priesthood.

Of course in terms of gameplay it's pure walky-talky. Has a nice setup, we'll see where it goes.
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>>125662974
i mean i planned on paying anyway
>>
hello
where are the lalas?
>>
>>125663025
Whats the server you were planing on moving to
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>>125663154
Being gassed
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>>125663154
Hello, I am lala.
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>>125663165
i have some friends playing on gilgamesh but i can't get on it, so i was just going to cough up 20 bucks or however much it is to transfer

if there's a level requirement to do the transfer, do you recommend any server to play on in the meantime? i heard cactuar is good, but i'm afraid of it being a barren wasteland
idk how servers work here, like is it gilg/balmung or bust? i've played a few games where one server out of like 10 was the only place you could get anything done
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Well meme'd, Yoshi
>>
Which race/gender/clan combo do you hate the most and 3 reasons why.
>>
>>125663401
I would say sarg is a good choice but i havent been on the other servers. Pf is somewhat active even though some cities feel dead
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>>125663437
That was such a weird dungeon run.

I floated around in an empty void for a while, then a bunch of loud trumpets played, I landed in a bowl of ice cream and it all ended.

Took Ardashir out for ice-cream afterwards.
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>>125663463
Yours
>1. You
>2. Are
>3. A Faggot.
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>>125663463
Lala 1
Lala 2
Roegadyn Female
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>tfw you haven't joined the 3.15 unsub wave because you're a faggot and don't want to see the game improve ;.;
>>
http://captiongenerator.com/73563/Interview-with-Relic-developer
>>
How did FFXI handle item levels?
Specifically, how did it handle item levels prior to the max level of 99?
>>125663629
Why don't you want to improve the game, anon?
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>>125663730
I hope this is hte Mexicans laughing one I need a good laugh man
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>tanking skirts
why

>>125663463
male lalas
they are creepy
they are memelords
they are creepy
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GAS THE ROE, CAT SUPREMACY HOUR, RACE WARS MEOW.
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>>125663742
There is no such thing as item level pre-99 in FFXI.
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>>125663869
>Tanking skirts
>Tanking dresses
>Tanking skirts attached to chest pieces.
>Tanking dresses attached to chest pieces
>Tank tiaras.
>Tank chest pieces that have sleeves that reach down to the wrist in a set that has gloves that reach up to the shoulder.
>Skinny thigh high boots with high heels FOR EVERYONE.
>Those low level tank pants that have the leather panties over your cloth tights.
>Chest pieces that have fake belts attached.
>All pants look exactly the same with varying colors because lol not like we let you see them anyways.
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Has anyone else heard of RPC?
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>>125663290
with laughing gas?

>>125663327
hi hi
why the dorko wizard outfit today?
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Do we have a verdict on Character Lighting yet?

I like keeping it on 0 to let the pretty-amazing-for-an-MMO shadows do their best, but I can see how a higher setting would give a bit of fantasy life to the characters
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When did you realize XIV was a bad game?
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>>125664031
Go away Sera.
>>125664185
Shut up Ippiki.
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>>125664031
The fire rises
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>>125664203
1.0
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>>125664031
cats in hell
on motorcycles

>>125664116
>when people tank in bikinis
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>>125664031
Is it a wacky racers war?

>>125664324
>on motorcycles
Oh sweet it IS wacky racers war.
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>>125664203
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My cat is a real joker!
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>>125664386
Yeah, she's a real bell-end.
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>>125664161
I think it looks cool! Goes with the stupid glowing thing.

Hate it?
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>mrw no one told me best c@ was posting and I missed the whole thing
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>disappear for a few days
>come back this morning
>there's enough salt around that it could help me make Pipiras for the rest of my playing days

I mean, this is just par for the course for relics isn't it? Of all the questionable things and the decisions being made in Heavensward, why focus on the relic?
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>>125664771
People knew there would be a grind, the problem is that the grind involves doing old shit.

It's even worse when we know Relic has been pushed back since 3.0
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>yfw none of the backlash matters because JP ONRY JP ONRY ONRY OPINION THAT MATTER IS JP ONRY
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>>125664185
I'm not a fan, it kinda takes me out of the action and just looks a bit 'wrong.' Granted I've never kept it off 0 for more than like 30 seconds, but I can't imagine it looks better in motion, especially in the places with nice lighting like Alexander.
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>>125649081
Shanoa Tensei..........
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It's almost that time of the month folks, Post yer christmas suits!
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>>125664771
>this is just par for the course for relics isn't it

The skinner box was poorly disguised this time.
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>>125664727
Itll be ok
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>>125664857
JP hate it too.
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>>125664771
Personally I don't really see the issue being as bad as some are making it out to be. It feels a lot less terrible than Zodiac stage of the last relic, and on top of that knowing it's such a long term project means I don't feel compelled to try to squeeze all my time into its production.

You can take it at the pace you want with a number of ways to get things done so you can spice if up if you get tired of doing it one particular way.

It's busy work but yeah, like >>125664941
said it's always been a skinner box.
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>>125664771
People are complaining that it brings nothing new to the table and that exaggerating that it's a long, long grind when I expect people to be finished within a month or three.
People are also complaining that it would be obsolete the next patch since we're still on a vertical progression phase.

People have been comparing it with FFXI's relics lately, too. They may be useful for a very long time but it takes about a couple years to finish it. How much time investment FFXIV relics have reflects it's usefulness in time, too so I don't see a problem, honestly.
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>>125664727
but i'm still posting :^)
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>>125664884
>>125664185
looks horrible when I turn it off, reminds me of the old days when any female character with any light shining on it looked like ayy lmao's or the retards from the hills have eyes.

>>125665005
why is this superior miqo'te sista hanging out with that lesser race potato....
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>>125665296
would you post butt already
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>>125665459
got 60 yet?
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>>125665459
he joined the master race
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>>125665630
That's some serious wololo that is.
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>>125665096

>How much time investment FFXIV relics have reflects it's usefulness in time, too

The only problem is it's not needed now, and it'll never have a time where it is needed. So it's never really useful.
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: >>125665625
no I can't even decide on a class and stick with it for longer than 10 minutes.
I want to ast or drk but I know i'll never have the tuff stuff to raid in the big boys squad or even the little jimmies league of statics

>>125665630
but senpai, he's not even a nunh....
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>>125665096
>I expect people to be finished within a month or three.

I saw people by the end of yesterday saying that they were 1/10th of the way through the Alex NM grind. You'll start seeing finished relics by the end of the week.
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>>125665823
I feel really bad for those people. They're putting themselves in a blender and then turning it on, then when the blender has reduced them to a slurry they're being poured out into a container whereby a fist punches them into an approximation of the shape they were before, then they go back into the blender again to repeat the process.
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>>125665740
It gives an incentive to raid at least, lol.
>>125665953
FFXI's relic is even more horrible if you ask me, but a one-time trip.
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>>125665630
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>>125665808
Still better than being a potato
my potato
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It fucking begins, boys.
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>>125665808
>drk
Not unless you have decent ping, if you're clipping your GCD by squeezing in 2x off GCDs during Blood Weapon, it'll feel like shit

>>125665823
I had a decent time with it, I got a better Eso weapon in like a day, with a sweet glow too

Getting some mileage out of the old /bm + /sit macro is fun
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>>125665953
Yeah, I'll never understand those people and there's no way I'd ever do a relic, but at the same time there are a lot of people who genuinely enjoy that sort of thing, to the point where they're happier with this than they would be with a shorter, non-grindy piece of content, so it's kind of hard to get bent out of shape over it when it's such a nonessential part of the game.
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>>125659586
>>125659832
):
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>>125664031
Silly little kitty cat thinks she can do anything to a roe...


Oh, whoops! I just accidentally dropped this huge bag of high quality catnip I was carrying around for some reason. I hope a nasty little cat doesn't find it and then run off with it and stop spouting nonsense.
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>3.2 is out
>Primal gives 215/220 weapon
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>>125665462
only if you post yours first
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>>125666342
WHEN will they stop increasing item levels for god's sake
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>>125666342
>3.2 is out.
>You get less content than the previous patch.
>But check out this new cash shop vanity and hairstyles :).
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>>125666404
Never. When will they make stats interesting?

I'd rather Yoshi just remove ilvl and increased stats and just make the game have content and all rewards are glamour gear only.

Who cares about +4 str
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>>125666404
That's not how vertical progression mmos work son.
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>>125666342
>3.2 comes out
>they just end up tying the next relic step with hunts
>hey man at least it gives me a goal and something to do :)
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>>125666404
This is a REAL MMO, not some failed abortion like GW2. So: never.
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>>125666554
>2.0 only managed to survive because it was only ever compared to the failed 1.0 and not other MMO so they thought it was acceptbale.
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>>125666179
What kind of faggot would name an FC that?
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>>125666342
That's probably exactly what's going to happen. They're probably going to do the same thing they did with 3.0, where you have two weeks without any Esoteric caps, A1-4S lockouts, or Void Ark loot limits, and a new primal and A5-8 NM, but no A5-8 Savage or new capped tomestone, and then after two weeks they'll introduce the new tomestones and the actual Savage (well it probably won't be called Savage) raid tier.
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>>125666439
>3.2 comes out
>Introduces Alexander Super Savage.
>It's A1S-4S, but tuned up more.
>All the gear it drops is just Gordian gear with relic weapon style glows.
>Only one new dungeon and it's Neverreap Hard.
>Story is just return to the Waking Sands oh hey look Yda and Papalymo are here patch over go home.
>Sorry guys, we spent all the development time on the Lords of Verminion rebalance.
Please look forward to it.
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>>125666728
They aren't doing the normal/savage for next raid.

They noticed it was a failure.
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>>125666756
keked irl
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>>125666767
They said that they're not doing "Normal/Savage", but they also said that they thought that Normal was a huge success. Normal Mode isn't going anywhere.

It's just probably going to be Normal/Hard instead of Normal/Savage. (Yes it's a completely meaningless distinction.)
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>>125666756
>>Sorry guys, we spent all the development time on the Lords of Verminion rebalance.
Holy fuck I forgot that existed

WHY THE FUCK DID THEY MAKE A MINIGAME A PATCH FEATURE?
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>>125666848
I would really appreciate if they made normal/hard/savage, but just 3 fights instead of 4
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The problem with endgame is you're forced to do it with the same 7 people and you have to make a schedule for when to raid.
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>>125666068
>What the fuck am I reading?

>>125666060
>FFXI's relic is even more horrible if you ask me, but a one-time trip.
Tell me of it. I saw up earlier in the thread apparently it takes an extremely long time to do? Does it have horrible failing melding shit?

>>125666214
I enjoy it, but I also take it slow most of the time and do what I went when I feel like doing it.

>>125666128
Good luck, and don't push yourselves!
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>>125666879
People were complaining that raiding content ran out too fast, so rather than make better aiding content or more raiding content they decided minigames.
>>125666945
This kind of mindset is why the cash shop is a thing.
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>>125666945
C A N C E R
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>>125666980
That's kind of the symptom of mechanics/DPS heavy raids instead of things that require you to work as a team. There's no room to adapt or improvise, just a very narrow selection of "what works", with a single mistake leading to a wipe, leading to symptoms of closed 8 man groups and pug groups full of shitters
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the current normal/savage should have had normal be a bit harder while savage is the same.

the only difference is that savage is on a separate lockout from normal and clearing it first time for each turn rewards a title.

but the gear and ilvl is the same for both versions.
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>>125667128
>with a single mistake leading to a wipe
?___?
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>>125667128
Next raid better remove the DPS meta, it's not fun or innovative.
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>>125666945
I don't think it's acceptable for them to drop the number of totally unique fights at all, under any circumstance, considering how barebones the game already is in that regard.

But yeah, Normal/Hard/Savage would be a good way to go about it. Yoshi has said as much, too, although he immediately followed it up with whining about how they don't have enough staff to do that.

I think the best way they could handle things would be to have 3.2 release with a Normal mode that works like Alex NM currently does, and a Hard mode that's the 'main' raid that's tuned to be in line with Coil, and then in 3.3 put out Savage mode that's just for challenge/titles - like Savage SCoB except without the bafflingly awful decision to make it share a lockout with the regular raid.
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>>125667054
>>125667061
3 out of 4 Alex encounters are the same fucking thing in term of design and lore and they're absolutely uninteresting. I'd rather have 2 coil-tier fights in terms of design than 10 Alex-tier fights
Plus with 3 modes they would be forced to implement more mechanics instead of "hey now resin bombs leave a puddle and numbers are bigger"
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>Only need leviathan pony for that ugly ass Kirin
>Put up a PF for farming
>An hour later no bites
>look at PF, only thing there is fate farming or unsynced dungeon runs
>go to bed
>wake up
>it's all the same shit

Fuck this patch. Fuck this shitty ass patch with these shitty ass weapons.
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>>125667284
>I'd rather have less content.
Good Gaijiin.
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>Alexander Part 2 in 3.2 is just his other hand, you even see the placement for it on the map.

>it's the same exact floors but now in reverse, all with the same looking zones.
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>>125667402
A lot of good content>>>>>>few good content>a lot of shit content(>few shit content)
that's what I'm saying
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The problem with the raid content in XIV is that aside from it all being static, repeating interval shit with no random elements it's the fact thst a lot of the mechanics feel really disconnected from the bosses thst use them.
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>>125667586
what do then
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>>125667586
that's a problem but definitely not THE problem
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>>125664559
no, i think it's refreshingly cute~
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>>125667460
Anon please no
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>>125667586
>still no fights with random elements
>most random fight in the game is Shiva EX, and that's a 50/50
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>yfw the next expansion is the equivalent of the token flashback episode and it rehashes the entirety of 2.0s story.
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I still don't understand what they're getting at for Alexander. Binding coil was interesting, all I see for Alex is GOB GOB GOB GOB
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>>125667778
I just want more of the dragons. They gave us snippets here and there but the more important shit talked about was how the isghardians were pieces of shit, rather than the dragons themselves.
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>>125667708
You know it to be true.
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>>125667778
>it's more ala nigger shit which also means more nanamo and ul'dah shit
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>>125667794
Coil:
>unique OST for each turn/boss
>unique areas that didn't all look the same
>unique mechanics(Rot only just now copied in A4S)
>non-circular boss arenas
>hard DPS checks were a rarity
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>>125667794
>Bahamut almost blows up the world.
>2.X raid is all about Bahamut and stopping him from blowing up the world again.

>Nidhogg is planning on killing all of Ishgard and maybe blowing up the world.
>3.X raid is GOBBY MAKES POCKET PICKS OF UPLANDER SHEKELS GOB GOB MAKE CHEESE NOW
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>>125667794
It's pretty obvious that the goblins are going to end up just being stooges in some larger plot. The eventual plot is going to end up being about the pricks who were with that stupid Au Ra machinist with the eye scar, and possibly the civilization that originally built Alexander making a comeback.
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Why is everyone so negative and pessimistic here? You can just taste the salt and downer personality emanating from these posts.
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>>125664116
>Tanking skirts attached to chest pieces.
>Tanking dresses attached to chest pieces
I find that aesthetically pleasing because they flow nicely and fit with heavy armour
>Tank tiaras.
le tin can :D
>Tank chest pieces that have sleeves that reach down to the wrist in a set that has gloves that reach up to the shoulder.
Why wouldn't they? Short-sleeved chainmail is silly.
>Those low level tank pants that have the leather panties over your cloth tights.
It's called a codpiece.
>Chest pieces that have fake belts attached.
It's because the actual belts don't have model so they attach them to the chestpiece of the set.
>All pants look exactly the same with varying colors because lol not like we let you see them anyways.
Have you ever gotten past level 40?
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>>125667794
The lore concept of alexander is great, it just looks less "big" because it was just randomly introduced, while the lore concept of coil is the backbone of the whole 2.0 story
The real problem are those fucking goblins, it should've been 1, maybe 2 encounters where you deal with them and the rest should've been other shit like living liquid. Fighting both oppressor and manipulator is completely redundant and a2 is just ridiculous.
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>>125667626
Design encounters with mechanics that make sense to the boss you're fighting??? People like to bash WoW but WoW's mechanics make sense thematically.

Make fights were you actually spend time fighting the boss and not fighting said mechanics???
>>125667659
Sure.
>>125667720
I don't even remember mechanics from Shiva EX.
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>>125668114
BECAUSE THIS PATCH IS SHIT FOR ANYONE WHO ISN'T 100% AUTISTIC SO THERE'S STILL NOTHING MORE TO DO.

AND IF I JUST WANNA FARM A RANDOM FUCKING EX OR RAID OR EVEN DO FUCKING ANYTHING I CAN'T, BECAUSE THE FUCKING PATCH HAS IDIOTS ACTUALLY DOING IT EVEN THOUGH THE LAST PART IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO THE AVERAGE PLAYER UNLESS THEY'RE FILTHY RICH OR HAS FRIENDS WHO WON'T OVER CHARGE THEM FOR THE NEW CRAFT ITEMS.

FUCK THIS PATCH FUCK IT IN THE ASSHOLE.
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>>125668061
>bahamut blows up the world

Nah, he's so shit he couldn't even blow up the continent or Eorzea.
>>
Call me when 4.0 comes out and we go to the Empire. Unless it's going to be more fucking goblin cheese shit.
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>>125668172
what mechanics
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>>125668257
I ALSO FORGOT
>SKILL SPEED ON NINJA

W H Y
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>>125668114
The official forums and reddit are the same currently.

3,0 has overall really underwhelmed most people who went into the expansion expecting more than a reskinned 2.0.
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>>125667660
Thanks anon! You should come visit, we can hang out!
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>>125668114
We're reaching or have reached a critical tipping point concerning the state of the game. Even the most tolerant of shit eaters eventually come to terms that what they're being given to eat is shit.
>>
We all know that the gobbies in Alexander are gonna get fucked in the ass in A5-A8 and get thrown out the window by some other plot character.
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>>125668172
The mechanics were all based around if she was in Sword or Staff stance, with Bow stance in between, and tanks/healers rotated their resources in order to handle weird shit she did. Too bad it ended up being a pretty lame first overall

>>125668257
>THIS PATCH IS SHIT FOR ANYONE WHO ISN'T 100% AUTISTIC
You can get Eso-equivalent weapons in like, a day or two, the rush will die down when people realize the most effective way is roulettes + some Alex NM
>>
>tfw Ultros
>tfw ywn leave Ultros
The worst feel
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>>125668359
faster mudra duh.

The more signs you can weave in a shorter amount of time means you're a better ninja.
>>
Give me 3 positives and 3 negatives that 3.x series brought.
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>>125668068
We don't have time and manpower for that, please have another three bulky mechas and an anthropomorphic puddle of water.
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>>125668257
>1 mil on MB
> Filthy rich

Damn nigga start crafting or gathering or something, 1 mil is a cakewalk
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>>125668595
>3 positives

I can give you but one

Y'shtola's new look
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>>125667995
You can't really hold Coil up in too high a regard when all the problems with Alexander are just continuing trends that were already there in Coil.

- BCoB was the only raid tier that really had non-circular arenas. T6, T7, and T9 were all basic circles, and T8 was just a square. Literally every FCoB fight was in a circular arena.

And hard enrages pretty much followed a straight-line trend from one raid tier to the next. Only T5 had a hard enrage in BCoB, while T4 and T2 had soft enrages and T1 had no real time limit. Then T9 and also T8 had hard enrages in SCoB while T7 had a soft enrage and T6 had no hard enrage. Then T13, T12, and T11 all had hard enrages, and T10 had a soft enrage. It's a small step from FCoB having 3 hard and 1 soft enrage to Savage Gordias having 4 hard enrages.

(Soundtracks weren't even close to unique, either. I think the only Coil fights with their own music were T13, T12, T9, and T5.)
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>>125668595
>Positives:
Flying
Diadem
New Jobs

>Negatives:
Flying
Diadem
New Jobs
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>>125668641
It's shit. Scions and Nanamo should have stayed dead.
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>>125668331
4.0 will probably be Domans. 5.0 will probably be the place where all these relicfags come from.

6.0 is Garlean empire unless I'm missing one. Is the place where the horses come from different from Doma?
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>>125668595
hive weapon aesthetics
y'shtola's new look
saint mocianne's arboretum

enochian
neverreap
relic step 3
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>>125668729
I like to think that somewhere out there, Ilberd is reading this and screaming at the monitor.
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>>125668629
>tfw prices skyrocketed because literal retards are grinding like idiot so they can shout "first!!!!1!1!"
>maps now sell for 100-150k each, same for aethersand
>tfw I'm finally getting rich
3.15 was fine for me, who cares about 5 extra ilvls
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>>125668713
You shoulda stayed dead, nerd.

Out of all the scions though I wish Minfillia would stay dead.
But she won't.
And she'll be back to bossing you around, taking credit for all your work, and getting kidnapped soon enough.
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>>125668595
>lv 60 classes are well done
>new zones/content added for leveling is good all around
>new primals are pretty fun, including thordan

>lv 60 crafting/gathering fucked in the ass by favours/red scrips
>raid is terrible
>seriously lacking in amount of good content, LoV/diadem/alex NM all trashed/obsolete near instantly

>>125668705
Sorry, I meant to say Binding Coil, as in, the first raid tier of a new X.0 cycle

Comparing Binding Coil to Alex Savage is really unfair but somehow oneof them is held in much higher regard
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>>125668595
>3 positives
New skills for most classes were solid
Interesting primals
Cute outfits

>3 negatives
Slow to fix class balance issues
Alexander nm is garbage
Alexander savage is garbage
Crafting is gated behind a currency now
Gathering is gated behind a currency now
Diadem is just hunts in the sky
Content updates lack lasting content
LoV
Relic grind is nothing but a skinner box.
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>>125668710
flying pissed me off so much
>here lol have a chocobo you can fly now
>oh sweet, thanks harche ur my boy
>btw you have to do sidequests
JUST
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>>125668873
>favours/red scrip/specialists

Literally killed the game.
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>>125668435
You say that but when Senator Gobstrong struts out of the smoking ruins of Alexander after A9 and gloats about gobbie making of quick feets at school sport ball you'll realize this is the future you choose.
>>125668595
The story was kinda okay for a short while, Knights of the Round was hype, flying mounts.

Just about everything else.
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>>125668352
Ferrofluid being a magnetic helix chain that has nothing to do with liquid and th resulting atrophy debuff for failing. Why does the boss turn into a hand. What do the digititis debuffs have to do with the boss. What does a flaming tether have to do with drainage, why couldn't it have been a liquid tether. What do the hand debuffs have to do with anything.

Helix chain on T11 and missile that have nothing to do with the design of the boss.

Orbs in T13 and A4S. Nisi. What the fuck do adds have to do with Bismark. Pylons on T13 and Thordan's Reign. Heavensfall on T9.

All of this shit feels like something external to the boss that you're dealing with more than you're actually engaging the boss.
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>>125668918
JUST
be my friend
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>>125668474
You don't really need random mechanics to make a good fight, ravana is the best fight ever and it's 99% scripted
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>>125668595
Positives:
>Quality of life UI changes
>Mudra fixes and EU datacenter
>More PVE and story content

Negatives:
>Red scrips
>DPS checks being emphasized more than other mechanics
>Failed to revitalize PVP
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>>125668257
RMT if you really need gold that badly
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>>125668982
hokay
hit me up and run fractal with me so i can get shitty law gear
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>4.0 adds swimming
>it's just flying zones with a water filter
>you can't actually swim and need a mount
>some enemies you can't fight unless you're grounded
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>>125669085
>some enemies
lol
All of them.
>>
If we want to talk about stupid design decisions in 3.0 raids, how about the fact that Bahamut and Phoenix, bosses designed to be fought at level 50 in i110-i130 gear by 'midcore' groups, deal significantly more damage with their basic attacks than Living Liquid and Manipulator, bosses designed to be fought at level 60 in i190-i210 gear by 'hardcore' players?
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>>125669004
Well, he would be a hell of a lot more formidable if his moves came out in random order

>back to back Blinding Blades
>Kamekameha phase into butterflies
>random ifrit charges
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>>125668713
That c@'s days are numbered. She knows it too.

She'll most likely be the next to sacrifice herself to defeat some other boogeyman down the msq line.
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>>125669085
The mount would be a sub just like FFXIV and you'll have to avoid enemies just like emerald weapon or you'll get fucked and need to respawn.
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>>125669219
Y'shtola? She might know it's on the way but she definitely won't see it coming.
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>>125669219
Nah, Matoya will give up her life to have Y'shtola regain her sight.
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>>125669298
FFVII*

I need sleep.
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>>125669219
All of the Scions should've just died and stayed died. They're a big fat symbol of the absolute worst this games writing has to offer.
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How much longer until this game is officially dead
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>>125669189
>A3S
>autos for 2k, cleaves for 8k
>tank buster(drainage) for 14k+(requires CDs)

>T13
>autos for 1.5k, cleaves for 4k
>tank buster(flatten) for 10k+

Maybe you're onto something
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>XIV cutscenes are still shit in comparison to XI

FIRE EVERYONE AND GET SOMEONE ELSE
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>>125668595
Positives
>I got a new box on my shelf
>New skills have all been good (not bard)
>MSQ was better than 2.0

Negatives
>Dungeons
>Overworld
>Boring side quests
>Alexander
>Relics
>Flying
>Still Ps3 support
>Never tried anything new
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>>125669378
It will be official dead depending on how well received 3.2 is.

We'll get a glimpse of 3.2 on 23rd December in the Live Letter.

Expect Hildibrand to make a return.
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>>125669476
Can't fire people, PS3 limitations.
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>>125669476
Have you seen 1.0 one? After that failed, they made cutscenes not a priority, sadly.
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>be hetero c@gril
>c@boy senpai won't notice me no matter what I do
>he does notice other c@boys and femroes though
>can't bring myself to play a male character because I insert myself in games

Guess I'm going femroe...
Anything I should know ahead of time, and any tips on not making a retarded looking one?
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>>125669692
>femroe

Don't.
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>>125669668
then what is priority because nothing in the current game looks like it has as much work as the one cutscene
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>>125669692
I hope you like futa cocks
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>>125669803
Cash shop.
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>>125668595
>New dungeons
>New primals/raid
>New level cap and skills

>Not enough new dungeons. 2 dungeons != a roulette.
>Said raid was overtuned and even though I don't care for AS it still affected me personally as my then friends quit over it
>The level cap and new skills contributed to the power creep which left nothing for midcore players leaving either insanely boring easy content or fuck awful hard content
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>>125669692
Maybe he's just not into you?
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>>125669476
It's a lot easier to work with PS2 model rigs
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>>125669936
>It's a lot easier to work with decade old technology.
Yoshidrones.
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>>125670034
It is actually.
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>>125670034
Elaborate.
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animus 2.0

post weapon glows. I think the WAR one is pretty good
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>oh i i haven't beaten this npc at triple triad yet
>it's triple triad time!
>rules:
>no same, plus, etc
>random
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>>125670279
you can barely even see it on this dumb screenshot
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>be br
>want to start playing again
>too expensive to buy xpac and keep a sub
>can't move SE account to Steam
>mfw
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>>125669692
I hope you enjoy being mistaken for a futa everywhere you go.
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>>125669768
Why?

>>125669814
What?

>>125669887
Not possible.

>>125670575
Is that a real problem, or just something that happens from time to time?
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>>125670482
The DRK one has been posted plenty, I just wanted to highlight the through-body glow that showed up on some of the animus and beyond weapons
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>>125670575
who is this beautiful femroe
do you want to be my futa gf
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>>125670482
I wish I had that image comparing how normal people show something off with no obstructions and how camwhores block whatever they're showing off with themselves.
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>>125670729
it was females vs males
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>>125670650
It seems to just be assumed that all femroes are futa by the general population.

>>125670704
Girls cant love girls silly anon.
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>>125670650
How is it not possible? Is it carved into his life's fate-stone that he is destined to become cathusband to your catwife? Are the threads of your existences knotted together with one of those really hard granny knots? Did you save his life and in turn he pledged himself to you entirely? Did you steal enough of his hair to construct the binding shrine of Ukg that slowly warps his thoughts towards you?
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>>125670918
>It seems to just be assumed that all femroes are futa by the general population.

but futas aren't real
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>>125670575
>mistaken
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>>125670918
but I'm a boy and you're a girl
so it's decided, you are my futa gf from now on
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>>125670980
Oh boy here we go.
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>>125670918
Is this just a balmung thing, or a game-wide thing? I never payed much attention to femroes before now.

>>125670920
It's just not possible, okay?
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>>125671068
So this is one of those "not possible" things like what the villain yells when his patently obvious weakness is exposed by the heroes and everything goes metaphorically tits up for him?
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>>125670992
Rude

>>125671004
I don't believe you

>>125671068
All tells I receive while visiting friends on balmung always ask about my futacock.
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>>125671068
More like a xivg thing
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>>125669692
do what I did and switch back and forth between them until finally settling on elezen for a while. I'll probably go back soon.
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>players in my fc who farmed thordan for hundreds of hours until they got literally all weapons are now farming the third step with enthusiasm and energy
I really don't get what's wrong with some people
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>>125671230
Do you have something against women? Are you the militant gay c@boi-love no girls allowed type? What's with these replies?

...or am I getting baited?
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>>125671372
Consumption of Yoshi's feces still seems like a ritual for some people.
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>>125670575
100% of femroes are futa, there are no exceptions. zero exist. those that claim to be are closet futas ashamed of their horsecocks.
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>>125671531
don't you have anything better else to do vjera

like dominating your subs?
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>>125669436
It's actually even worse than that. A3S and A4S auto-attacks start at about 2k unmitigated.

T12 auto-attacks hit for 3.5k, T13 for about 3k. And this is in Unsynced content, where you have probably a full 1000 or so more Defense and Magic Defense than you would if you were actually doing them at level 50.
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Honestly /xivg/ has been pretty tame about the new patch compared to the 14 subreddit. Those motherfuckers are going nuclear over there
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>>125671445
You just sounded really confident that it was impossible for him to not be into you, so I figured I'd see if this was a hubris thing.

It does kinda seem like a hubris thing no offense.
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queue for trials roulette plz
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tfw nobody to hold close with the ebb and flow
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>>125671682
I watched vids with a DRK on A3S and PLD on T13

>T12 auto-attacks hit for 3.5k, T13 for about 3k
On a WAR?
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>>125671594
I'm in bed, taking to some chicken about muh life issues and it's boring me to shit.

I sent my subs to bed after they all kissed my feet.
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>>125671696
They're crying over nothing.
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>>125671696
This isn't the first time this has happened.

There were multiple huge threads a few months ago about how boring the game was and how everyone should unsub or tell their friends that this game is shit.
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>>125671835
everyone is crying simply because everyone thought they could get a welfare weapon with relatively low effort instead of clearing a4s, and instead it turns out they have to work about as much, just in a different way.
The only valid claims are of those who argue about some relics being BiS while others are not, but again that's pretty lame considering that even if you had the Gordian weapon and now the relic is better, it doesn't matter since you don't have anything else left to clear
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>>125671775
On any tank. This is unmitigated, so a WAR without cooldowns, a DRK without Grit, PLD in Sword Oath. That's compared to running A3S under the same conditions.

The hardest-hitting auto-attacks in all of Savage Alexander are actually from Gobwidows in A2S, which deal about 4.2-4.3k damage (unmitigated) with their basic Snapcannon attacks.

The second hardest hitting auto-attacks are from the fucking Oppressor in A1S, which are in the same 3.2k-3.5k range as Phoenix and Bahamut.

Living Liquid reaches that range only for a couple of attacks once you get 4+ stacks of Vuln Up in the final phase. Technically he also has the hardest-hitting auto-attacks when he's in his hand form prior to splitting, where he does close to 8k unmitigated, but that lasts for all of like 20 seconds.
>>
Why do people keep staying subbed to this game even when there's a content drought?
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>>125672315
>This is unmitigated, so a WAR without cooldowns, a DRK without Grit, PLD in Sword Oath
You mean WAR without Defiance
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>>125672596

Defiance does not mitigate. You still take the same amount of damage.
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>>125672596
senpai...
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Help! There's a living breathing meme standing right in front of me!
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>>125672596
Grit and Shield Oath increase your effective HP and effective healing by mitigating incoming damage.
Defiance offers no mitigation, but achieves a roughly mathematically equivalent result by increasing *actual* HP and healing.

So no, I meant a Warrior with no cooldowns.
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>eHP isn't mitigation hour
Fucking end your lives.
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If my FC's static has already cleared a1s this week but i have not, can they (except one of them) enter with me? I don't really get how this lockout works
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>>125673034
Other way around, champ. Mitigation is eHP, but eHP is not necessarily mitigation.
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>>125673034
>expecting wartards to know more about their class than how to get a 3 fell cleave opener
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>>125673089
It is the same thing.

10,000 damage hit.
Paladin in Shield Oath has 10,000.
Warrior in Defiance has 12,500 (1.25x).

Warrior takes 10,000. 80% HP.
Paladin takes 8,000. 80% HP.

A paladin would die in Sword Oath. Fuck off.
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>>125672795
Does it reduce the actual number of the damage received?

No.

Then it's not mitigation.
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>>125673049
they can all enter with you but you have to be party leader and select floor

also if it's 4 or less you get 1 chest, 5+ you get zero
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>>125672315
Show any footage or images of T12/13 autos doing any more than 3k, unmitigated
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>>125673089
>eHP is not necessarily mitigation.
But it is. Unless the WAR is currently missing the amount of HP they get from Defiance prior to taking big damage, then no.

>not having tanks topped off for tankbusters
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>>125673381
welp time to get shamelessy carried then
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>>125673368
Read what you wrote again
Defiance increases your hp and healing but you still take the exact same amount of damage as you would be taking without it
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>>125673368
I guess next you're going to tell us thrill of battle isn't a defensive cooldown.

Just because it functions differently, doesn't mean its not mitigation.
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>>125673354
Are you legitimately retarded?

Having more hp does NOT reduce the severity, seriousness, or damage of the attack itself.

Damage Mitigation and Health Pool are both survival strategies. But mitigation is not health pool (unless you're talking ehp) and raw health pool isn't mitigation.
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>game so devoid of content people go back to tank shitposting

holy jesus christ
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>>125673635
>2015
>Still doesn't understand shit we've known since 2.1
>calling anyone a retard

You're just hung up on the semantics of "mitigation" at this point despite that anon explaining the math to you.
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>>125673635
Having more HP allows you to sustain more damage, which is precisely what reduction does for your health points, by giving them more weight.

>Damage Mitigation and Health Pool are both survival strategies.
That's what mitigation is.

I'm really not going to keep repeating myself to idiots.
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>>125673712
WARs being retarded, as usual. They ruin the thread and the game. Remove them and their job, and everything will be fine.
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>>125673616
Thrill of Battle is a defensive cooldown that increases eHP without offering any mitigation, by increasing ACTUAL HP.

eHP is the result of mitigation. The basic formula for eHP is

[Actual HP] / [1 - %-of-damage-mitigated/100]

You can double your eHP by mitigating 50% of all incoming damage. You can also double your eHP without any mitigation, if you can double your actual HP.

This is not a difficult concept.
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Guys, the poster must've meant without any effects that will change the damage received and wrote something else, cmon

>>125673808
>>125673871
>not mentioning the healing boost on Defiance
You can't directly equate a larger HP pool to a better tank, per se, but it is mitigation, based off % hp damage taken
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>>125673712
DRK is best tank
WAR is for DPS retards
PLD is for cucks

TANK WARS MEOW
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>26 selfies of Shitvana

mods will preform their monthly swoop-over soon, yes? y-yes?
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>>125669051
>Fractal
Dropped
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why did they ruin highlanders by making their faces masculine as fuck? like the jawline on all the faces looks too fucking manly, why not just make it midlander faces but with a more muscular body.
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>>125674268
why don't you go masturbate to some moeblobs or something goddamn
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>>125673808
>>125673787
You idiots are exactly the same as the imbeciles who call Google's data collection and analytics a botnet. You have no idea what the term you're using actually means.

Is one function of a botnet to collect afflicted user's data? Most certainly. Is that the primary or only function? Definitely not. The primary function of a botnet is to provide distributed computing power for uses such as traffic flooding and network manipulation.

Health Pool is a survival strategy. It is NOT mitigation. Mitigation is in reference to the attack itself, not the receiver of the attack. You can survive an attack by having more health than it does damage, or you can survive an attack by mitigating it down to a value below your health pool. One affects the attack itself (mitigation) and one affects the receiver of the attack (Health Pool).
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>>125674268
strong jawline =/= manly jawline, dumbshit

>my opinion in objectively right
Highlanders have been attractive since 2.0
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>>125674259
wtf
we can do neverreap too but i really dont wanna
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>>125674568
That's 27th picture of your character. Just thought I'd let you know in case you're disconnected from reality.
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>>125674268
Their jaw lines aren't the problem. Their ashy skin is.
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>>125674568
I'm joking because I don't think we're on the same server which sucks.
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feeling great right now just got my parry skillspeed axe shoot me
#blessed

>>125674679
i'm disconnected from memeality
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>>125674509
>highlanders have been attractive since 2.0
>my opinion is objectively right

lmao is that why they get called the futa race together with roe. played by a small amount of the playerbase because of how bad they look.
>>
>>125673987
Mitigation isn't the process of making an attack deal a smaller percentage of your HP; it's the process of reducing the amount of incoming damage.

You can achieve the exact same result in terms of survivability* (ie: in terms of %-of-HP-taken-as-damage) by directly increasing your HP pool, but that does not make it mitigation.

You don't survive a tankbuster by mitigating it. You survive a tankbuster by increasing your eHP to a level where you can survive the hit. Mitigation is ONE way to do that, but it isn't the ONLY way, and something doesn't automatically become mitigation because it allows you to do that.


*(The reason that the difference is important is because "survivability" isn't the last thing that matters when you take a hit. If you've taken 50% of your HP as damage because you've mitigated 50% of the incoming damage, then in order to recover to 100%, you need to be healed for 50% of your base HP pool. If you've taken 50% of your HP as damage because you've doubled your HP pool, then in order to recover to 100%, you need to be healed for 100% of your base HP pool. This is why Defiance boosts your HP pool as well as your incoming healing. It takes both of those non-mitigation-based effects to be roughly mathematically equivalent to the single mitigation effect of Shield Oath or Grit.)
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>>125674373
this nigga said imbeciles

i love this site
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>>125674373
Neither do you seem to understand the words you're spouting.

The word you're reaching for is reduction, champ. Reduction is in reference to the attack damage itself. The numbers. However, the receiver is implicit in your analysis up there, so it's a point of mitigation and not how low the number can be reduced. A warrior in Defiance is not comparable to a paladin in Sword Oath.

All tanks fall and rise at equal levels while in-stance.

Bye.
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>>125674878
They get called futas because 12-year-olds can't recognize real women when they see them.
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>>125674863
what server are you on?
you could always add me on steam
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>>125675090
I will add you. I said I would like two days ago. Just been busy.
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>still arguing semantics of mitigation when eHP functions the same
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>>125674878
It's mostly the muscles and fags like harp that play them as dykes

They could be great for consensual hetero loving things, pic related, but the rash of men playing girls for men playing girls is too common for the stigma to be dropped, similar to futa fem roe

>>125674917
>reducing the amount of incoming damage.
Defiance/ToB does this by increasing your total HP, causing the damage to be *reduced*, compared to your remaining HP, as a percentage.
>>
30 selfies, ladies and gents
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>>125675003
Reduction is literally the primary in the definition of mitigation, friendo. Did you not read the definitions you've screen capped before posting them?

Are you really this idiotic, or am I getting baited hard?
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>>125675162
fair enough
well, if you're on balmung send me a msg or whatever
>>
>guys flirt with me
>approach them
>they log out
FOR WHAT PURPOSE?!
>>
>>125675368
>Balmung
Ultros
>>
>Relic quest doesn't make you to run Bismarck ex, Ravana ex, and Thor ex on the lowest ilvl requirement without any deaths
>Relic doesn't make you speed run Neverreap/Fractal/Saint/Pharos HM in under 20 minutes
>>
>come back after a month
>relic's out
>finally can do them they way they were meant to be done
>realize i can get crystals on any class
HAHA TIME TO LEVEL A THIRD HEALER
>>
>>125675425
>this would be cried about on the OF harder than it is currently
delicious tears, too bad though

>>125675428
I took WAR from 56 to halfway through 59, it was great
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>>125675428
I don't get it
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>>125675241
>Defiance/ToB does this by increasing your total HP, causing the damage to be *reduced*, compared to your remaining HP, as a percentage.

Reducing the percentage of your total HP that an attack deals in damage does not reduce the amount of incoming damage.

It allows you to survive an equivalent amount of damage before dying, but is different from that in several ways which have already been explained to you.
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>>125675387
Because you look good from a distance, but hideous up close.
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>>125675004
Right on sister. #StrongWomen #RealWomen
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>>125675421
ah ok, no problem
we can still be friends ( ´・ω・`)
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>>125675241
That's pretty much what I was going to reply. You can make some very pretty highlanders, femroes too, but if you mention either race to me my first thought is shrek or harp, flexing and posing in clothing that wasn't made for roided out freaks.
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>>125675516
>Reducing the percentage of your total HP that an attack deals in damage
vs
>reduce the amount of incoming damage

This seems like semantics desu
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>>125675507
>people complain about grind
>people would complain about challenging content

What do people expect then? Yoshi to just give them a free i210 relic?
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>>125675617
>case-in-point
Observe: here we have the quintessential child false-flagging to "prove his point". While, in reality, he simply reinforces the point he's trying to discredit.
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>>125675428
If you've been gone for that long you should know that they buffed dungeon exp. It's way faster to dungeon queue even as a dps once you can do sohm al.
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why is this thread so fedora right now

anyone wanna queue for some video games on aether instead
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>>125675661
It seems like semantics to you because you have no mental capacity to understand the difference. You probably also think Linux is the same as Unix.
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>>125675661
It's not semantics at all, but it is about using language precisely.

If you follow the reply chain back, you'll see that the original situation was "This attack deals this amount of damage, unmitigated". Anything that doesn't reduce that number is not mitigation. You would not say "This attack deals this percentage of your total HP in damage" unless it was an attack that actually DID map to your total HP, because that would be stupid, and would not be useful information to anybody.
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>>125675534
Yer a cheeky lil one I'll give ya that
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>>125675863
sure which one
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>>125675241
no, they couldn't be anything like pic. their stances are butch and manly. their waists aren't that tiny, and their arms aren't that small.their torsos aren't that petite either. you're like those elezen players that think their elves look like anime elves when they're shit tier.
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>>125675676
grind is stupid because we play games to escape the tedium of our daily lives, MMO tedium aside, planning something for a month, just to have it be obsolete 2 months later, is not a good plan. the only reason why the current system is even being barely tolerated is because you can do 2 things at once, see >>125675428

the other option of making it challenging IE 2.0 relic is that some people might NEVER get it because they're mediocre players and too poor to buy a carry, which loses out on subs

10 easily entertained retard subs > 1 medcore player remaining subbed until the next patch unfortunately
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>>125675863
What role we doin dungeons or trials?
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How do you level from 30-40 is it still fates? The areas are dead.
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>>125675368
Wait, youre on Balmung?

I thought you were on some other server, you degenerate. What happened?
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>>125675913
>>125676003

i'm a dps and i'm down to do like whatever

i'm kinda in the mood for a relaxed and ezpz 60 dungeon but i don't really care what we do


also it's on aether

you guys decide on things pls i can't
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>>125676004
Go to a better server. Northern famalam and central cuntass highlands while waiting on Qs
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>>125675763
I've already leveled the classes that i actually want to play as, by doing fates as my third healer i can mostly afk them and watch anime.
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>>125676004
Dungeons.

All leveling from 15-60 is now fastest in dungeons.
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>>125675959
>the other option of making it challenging IE 2.0 relic is that some people might NEVER get it because they're mediocre players and too poor to buy a carry, which loses out on subs
Yeah, because actually reading your tooltips and learning how to play your job is too much work. Fucking shitters ruin everything.
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>>125676047
>I thought you were on some other server, you degenerate.
hahaha
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>tfw using a bot on my 8 characters and just running Alex itself.
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>>125675915
>their stances are butch and manly
You mispelled assertive and tomboyish

The entire point is that a character model is a character model, up to the player. The overwhelming majority of the ostentatious players here, and a visually offensive demographic ingame skew your perception. I see highlander females as the plain girls that got bullied in middle school, until their bodies hit puberty, grew up and now still act boyish despite their proportions, and there's a lot of interesting themes in there, too many and too vague to name, but definitely more than "highlanders = dykes, femroes = futas", despite the lowest common denominators that play them like that.

I'll keep these opinions because I feel like variety is more important than "what works", since Aendyr's hl gf is probably 100x the value of your average futa fag
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>>125675959
>just to have it be obsolete 2 months later
this gets posted often, but how do you guys know that there will be no relic upgrade in 3.2?
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>>125674878
>is that why they get called the futa race together with roe
But I see several cat players who pretend their character is "futa" so the same could be said for miqo'te. Oh wait, everyone plays miqo'te here so nobody is going to agree.
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What's a good ballpark on how much someone will need to spend on relic for the crafting part?
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>>125676342
No, but there will be i210 weapons that are easier/cheaper/faster etc than Anima, most likely
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>>125676047
>>125676263
He's not a degenerate for having a little poop on his nose.
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god damn, 3.2 is in two months?
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>>125676406
>there are vastly more futa cats than there are femroes in total
>the cats scream that all femroes are futa and some sort of plague
I don't get it.
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>>125676587
yep
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>>125676480
KITTYNOSE IS CUTE YOU ASSHOLE
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>>125676462
more than it should be.
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>>125676650
Are you saying cats stick their noses in shit?
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>>125676587
3.1 was released a little over a month ago, so yes, if Yoshi and co aren't bullshitting(unlikely), 3.2 should be in about 2 months
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>>125676640
Just typical retarded cat circlejerking
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>>125676462
around 30 mil
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>>125676470
but anima will be more than i210
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>>125676587
MARCH, BUT MOST LIKELY APRIL.
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>>125676784
What we know right now = retarded amount of tedium for i210

what 3.2 might have based on past history = less tedium for i210 or better

That's all I'm saying
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>>125676712
no...
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Who cares if relic is shit this game is still good, we've even got cute outfits coming tomorrow for christmas

STOP BEING SALTY IF YOU DON'T LIKE THIS GAME JUST QUIT :)))))
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So which carfters do you need for relic shit?
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>>125646551
Where's your savage clear?
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>>125676951
all
and all specialist
enjoy
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>>125676784
In 3.2? Most likely not.

3.3, sure.
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>>125676784
Anima will stay 210 until 3.3(3.35)
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>>125674268
>being a little bitch ass midlander
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>>125673387
Way late to this I know, but here. (And if this doesn't satisfy feel free to click Undersized party and test it yourself).

Boss auto-attacks have actually gotten weaker (or best-case scenario statyed the same) from FCoB to Savage Gordias, despite the fact that player levels have gone up by 10, new skills have been added, item levels have gone up by 80, and HP pools and heal strength have more or less doubled.
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>>125676851
>>125677020
>>125677042
I see, I didn't play during 2.x so I didn't really know when they added each upgrade
But if this is the trend it's still good to have a relic, right? Even if it skips a patch then you would regret not having it in the patch after
I'm still deciding if I want to bother with the third step or not, is there a chanche they will nerf the grind when the first upgrade rolls?
>>
Show c@ ass
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>>125669476
Too bad the game was a snooze fest. Auto attacking for 5 minutes sure was amazing.
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>>125677261
>it's still good to have a relic, right?
Relic has never actually been useful besides in 2.0-2.1 chain.

Every point after that, it's always been the casual shitter catch up weapon, with the exception of late 2.5 where it was actually BiS but didn't matter with 3.0 and level cap increase around the corner. Plus the hardest content was already cleared by many in 2.4.
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>>125676753
Come on it can't be that much. I could buy a fucking house for that.

House

vs.

weapon I will use for expert roulette,
pf a1s/a2s and to get more thordan weapons so I can give them to retainers
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>>125677293
mm some sexy cat ass for you anon !!!!
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>>125677183
I believe you, but that seems fucking retarded

No wonder the DPS tank meta is so strong, I take about 2.8k-3k on Living Liquid autos in comparison, unmitigated

>>125677261
Relic has traditionally been a side thing to work on for a class you really care about. They've kind of gone overboard this time, a month of minimal effort is no better than the gil/tome sink that was Novus, but the sheer lack of originality the devs have shown recently is dismaying.

The 3.0 zones/dungeons and primals are the only truly standout content in the game currently, imo
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>>125677494
strictly off MB it would be 12 mil on balmung. if you farmed the mats yourself and found crafters it would be cheaper. not on balmung/gilga i would expect crafters to gouge the shit out of people.
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