/vtg/ Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide General

elf a shit

FIRST-FIRST FOR THE SCREAMING ONE

>>125333414
sauce on that claim x1

>try to get the 100 everything achievement
>asshole sponsor keeps asking for heavy loads of rats cum

Other FPS games with satisfying melee?

I redownloaded Skyrim because of this and lol that was a mistake.

>>125335940
Dark Messiah of might and magic has a pretty fun mêlée system but also fun magic and actually a pretty nice twist on a very common story.

>>125335940
Chivalry: Medieval Warfare is the best online melee game.

>>125336520

Funny how much 4chan seems to like that game, considering it's basically just medieval call of duty.

>>125336628
how is it like call of duty?

>>125336628
Butthurt Taleworlds drone detected :^)

>>125336628

Vocal minority it's shit and for casuals

>>125336746

See, look at this faggot memeing all over the place like a 12 year old because he couldn't figure out how to block in multi, typical chivalry player

>>125336951
>See, look at this faggot memeing all over the place like a 12 year old because he couldn't figure out how to block in multi, typical chivalry player

But I never played chivalry and have nearly 500 hours on M&B multi Shaking my head you just got meme'd on pham

>>125336520
since they nerfed men-at-arms it's no longer playable

he still recks shit but now you ned to actually be good

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More of this

>>125335940

Dark Messiah of Might & Magic older game but fun

>>125337112
no

>>125337112
>>>/tg/

This fucking AI sucks. If I start camping they will NEVER come for me holy shit. If there was a button that would keep all archers in overwatch and infantry in ambush/parry then it would be bearable.

ok I've fought various skaven without arms now, are they prone to losing limbs?

what happens when your character loses a leg?

>>125337906
Penalty to moving, no more charging or climbing. I think it got changed a while ago to some other negative effect though.

>>125337960
how does it even work? They hope around?

>>125338243
They have a pegleg, saw someone posting picture of it but I don't have it saved. The worst I had happen to happen to one of my warband was a Sister Novice missing an arm and an eye.

>>125335940
Anything by Arkane, mountain blade

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>>125338310
My first sisters save had 3 people with one arm and one eye

>>125338243
Movement reduced by 1 meter
Can't climb
Leap and Climb down chance reduced by 25%

It's death on any character that isn't a plodding tank

Can't show it properly because the injury notification covers up the leg on the main screen

What the fuck is the point of routing? I had this Skaven warband enemy who where doing to 4 rats. Routed, sucess. Down to 2 rats. Routed, success. Down to one fucking rat(their leader). Routed and success.

Obviously I won but what is the objective if you alreay lost the match, damage the player as much as possible?

>>125339241
Get back gear from dead troops/loot as much as possible and then voluntarily rout

Or just hope for lucky dicerolls, due to dodge chance it is possible to eventually beat an entire unit with one skaven

Are 2h worth it? I made one 2h hero because he had those skills and a purple halberd. He does good damage sure but holy shit after a few hits you can't do shit. If you parry and get a counter you begin down lower and lower damage up to fucking 5, probably even zero.

>>125339728
I usually just have one or two grunts designed to be tanks and absorb as much damage as they can while heroes and other squishies deals damage.

>>125339728
2h is really good, at like rank 5 it falls off to dual wield but until then it's better

Go shield and parry on your really tanky guys because they can't dodge for shit in heavy armour
2h/dw on your light armour guys
1h and nothing on archers

Use tanky guys for chokepoints and for double teams (put them on the side a second enemy might come to)
Use light guys for charge attacks provided you have a tankier guy ready to force the all on one and lower the chances of your light armour guy being aimed at

Course this changes depending on army, sisters for instance are almost all tanky ones even if built pure damage

>>125335940
How is the melee in KF2? I know it's focused on guns but there's a melee class isn't there?

>>125340457
Yeah, there is the berserker class, no idea how good it is but my friend who played KF1 had fun with it. You missed an opportunity KF2 was free to try this week-end.

>>125340457
It's alright but really I'd just wait until release

Still more than possible kf2 will end up as a bad game

>>125340540
Fuck

>>125340457
It's pretty good.

Holy shit, I've failed the first mission of vermintide twice in a row

How can people with actual levels in the game be worse than me? Surely they should even have had gear and stuff drop by that point

>>125344385
>people playing HoM

Most of them are here just because they haven't figured the next map to bug-abuse and are complete shitters when it comes to play the game "normally".

>>125344569
I was one of those wankers. Now I play every map and know them better than my hometown.

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>wanna make some webms
>some anon said use webms for retards
>website says "run WebMConverter.exe"
>theres no webmconverter.exe

jesus christ

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>>125345424

Works on my machine :^)

>>125346780
>norton

>>125347018

I'm afraid of the Anonymous Legion's botnet infecting my system with malware virus dataworms while I browse the world wide web.

Are you guaranteed to get a drop for the character you're playing or is it just highly likely?

>>125348409
highly likely

>>125348409
If you wear the character's trinket, it's much more likely.

>>125348489
>>125348576
cheers

I actually don't want specific drops right now

>vermintide has shitty optimization
>mordheim takes a week and a half to load a fucking level

>>125340203
I gave halberd guy a sword and shield on top of his halberd. I think I'll just switch to sword and shield and pistols like everyone fucking else who isn't a marksman in my squad.

Alreay maxed strenght anyways so I'm lev

>>125340457
It's fast. Very fast. Attack directions are based on WASD. Light attacks are god tier for trash, strong attacks rekt big gus. There's no charging bullshit. There's an explosive shotgun sledgehammer(I'm looking at you Todd you piece of shit)

After playing KF2 and going to Vermintide I feel like a fucking sleepy turtle.

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>>125345042

>Mordheim is set 500 years before Vermintide/Fanatasy in general
>People still use the same fucking weaponry
I guess magic hampers technological advancement.

dorfs a bestr

>>125349835
hard to have a full industrial revolution when you're in eternal war

>elf designed around staying ranged with quick melee kills if needed
>every elf I play with just runs off into hoards
>>125349835
skaven advance, they get automatic weapons by vermintide

>>125351291
War is actually a huge catalyst for technological advancement.

>>125351489
You should not be staying ranged as an elf.
Use a longbow, pick off specials and only use it on clanrats or slaverats they are lined so you can hit two in one shot.

Sword and dagger chews through clanrats.

>>125352102
Bows are shit at killing specials.

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AT THE END OF HOM

WHAT
THE
FUCK

>>125351825
More in modern war which has been typically fought abroad, allowing nations to expand their factories and shit

In Warhammer your factories are constantly being attacked by skaven or nurglings or whatever

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>>125352149

Elf is shit at killing everything except teammates

>>125352149
It's good enough. Sure you deal less damage than a handgun but you can fire charged shots at a decent rate.

If you are good with headshots all specials will go down in one or two shots in cata, except the gas rat, and roger of course.

>>125352447
Handgun kill everything in one-shot on the body except gas rats, which will explode anyway so you don't even need to shoot twice.

Charging a shot takes time and makes you less mobile, handguns are point and click and hitscan while arrows are projectiles.

The sole purpose of a bow is to use it on nightmare to kill slaverats while running.

>can't play Sisters of Sigmar without a disgusting lard ass tumblr leader.

>>125353240
>not covering her face
>complaining murdernuns are ugly
fuck off patriarchy

New player here

Should I just play dwarf and block whilst using talismans to get gear for characters I actually want to play

seems like it's the best way to be useful

>>125353000
>Handgun kill everything in one-shot on the body except gas rats.

>Charging a shot takes time and makes you less mobile, handguns are point and click and hitscan while arrows are projectiles.


Ok. I don't get your point. So I should just never use the bow because I should leave it other people to kill specials? Even if they might have some clan rats on them?

You're really overestimating the amount of time it takes to charge the bow. It's less than a second.

The speed reduction is also minimal, it only happens at the point where the bow is fully charged. If you keep taking shots as soon as it's ready you'll lose very little speed.

>>125353614
Play what appeals to you. If you are just standing around blocking the whole time you are just wasting space.

>>125353614
Stick to hard and don't go in nightmare still you can be properly useful.

Play whatever you want.

>>125352216
Shouldn't have played witth that cheter senpai. You're in the blacklsit now.

>>125354657
nasty

>>125353421
her body is ugly

the little greek ones are goddesses and the rest are milfy/amazonian enough to be good.

the fat shit(leader) pisses me off


mods when
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>>125353735
His point is that "you shouldn't play the elf".

They'll release some shitty op explosive bow or similar and all the shitters will be buzzing over it.

>>125354657
Didn't do anything like that my dear steam forums tech illiterate m8.

>>125353831
tbf I'd rather have a player just blocking off an entrypoint than an elf running around doing sod all

>>125335940
zeno clash series has pretty good melee combat, but its a bit weird

>Get my first ever green!
>blunderbus
But I don't like it

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>>125359245
>green

>>125360852
It's a big deal after having dupes of the starter weapons drop

>>125361694
It's really not, you get a tiny damage increase and one trait. Honestly I didn't get many greens I liked at all, I went straight from white to blue on most weapons, then when you get to oranges that's when you really care about drops (except not really since trash oranges can just be salvaged to make more class-specific oranges).

HOLY SHIGMAN, BLESH THIS RAVAGED BUDDY

Alright, I'm that anon from last thread that's game kept crashing. I got a response back from fagshark. The guy sent me a bunch of ways to just make the game run better with its shit optimization, to help with crashes and framerates. I'll post them all later when I'm home.

But I was able to play a full game with no crashes then had to go to work. What really fixed it for me was just playing in full screen borderless and turning ant analysing or whatever it's called off.
I'll play some more later to see if it's completely fixed or not.

>>125361694
Stop playing on easy/normal

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>>125359245
thanks for the laughs

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>>125352216
>God bringing down his righteous wrath on the HoM-grinding shitters

>>125368865
Why do people spam this shitty macro?
>not even impact font

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>>125369904

It's the only fantasy laughing image I got.

>84 replies
>page 8
RAT'S CUM

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>>125370919

What's stirring with every rat Kerillian kills and why?

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>>125371672

>>125371490
"I told elf bitch I has a boat"

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Did you remember to bully elves today /vtg/?

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>>125372757
Did yesterday

>as we enter the carriage
>musket shot elf for luck
>rolled 7
>mfw

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>>125372757
Sure did.

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>that soldier
what goes through the mind of people like him?

>>125373361
Rat ogre induced panic and tunnel vision.

Is that on cata or nightmare? I don't remember bomb friendly fire damage being that excessive.

is elfposting allowed here?

>>125375441
Lewd elfposting only

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BATTLE BROTHERS WHY AREN'T YOU PLAYING ETERNAL CRUSADE ???

>>125376269
BECAUSE IT ISN'T OUT YET

>>125376269
BECAUSE NO PLAYABLE NIDS !!!
BECAUSE I WANT TO REMEMBER FANTASY OVER THE DEATH THAT IS AOS !!!
BECAUSE IT'S FULL OF FOUNDERS ASKING FOR "RIGHTS" !!!
AND >>125376530

P.S.
BLOCK MAIUSC IS BROKEN, PLS SEND AN ENGINSEER, A WARPLOCK IS OK TOO

>>125376269
>40k
>third person shooter
>don't play as armies i like
I just want to be nids

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Rat coop soon.

Did the nasty surprise come yet or was it seriously just a bluff to scare people into cheating and to make the whiners calm down?

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>>125380290
I think it was a bluff. Hacking is doing better than ever, you can do super retarded shit like pic related or spawn literally every weapon, hat or trinket you need.

>>125380290
Fatshark actually somehow made it that you couldn't add grim or gems anymore but then that fucking autist finally shared his .lua scripts and it's fine.

>>125380605
I want to light one of those up and watch the chain reaction.

>>125375391
It's nightmare. Damage is huge because bombs are affected by the strength potion.

Is Mordheim worth getting? I looked at it a couple times in early-access but always felt like it needed just a bit more to it.

>>125382369
I've had it for several months and I would definitely recommend it.

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tfw nasty surprise post is already almost one month old

tfw we still dont have 2nd and 3rd altar pages even though 3rd of december was almost 2 weeks ago

>>125382369
If you like strat games get it.

The number of base maps (i.e. what the random generator works with) and warbands is low but the game is great

The injury system is fantastic since it turns losing into something you can accept as part of the game, as opposed to xcom where a big loss can just fuck your save

Is it possible to remove items from your inventory as well with this new script?

What's generally better to have on a 2h sword/hammer: Devastating blow or perfect balance?

>>125382369
Do it.

>>125376269
>there are people that don't expect EC to be shit
why

skryre jezzail enemy when
warlock engineers when
plague priests when
giant rats when

more heroes when
a mage from a different college could be cool

>>125388071
Skaven riding Giant rats when.

>>125389424
Skaven riding giant elves when

>>125388071
Probably a silly question, but is this game "complete" or is it still considered early access/beta or whatever?

I'm just wondering if I should actually look forward for new content or not.

>>125388071
stormfiends already confirmed

>>125390142
It's out of beta and is considered a full release or "complete" but they have plans to add more. Someone said a while ago that they were going to alternate between paid and free DLCs

>>125390142
It's released but it's a Killing Floor 1 situation where they plan to add content

Only way to keep a multiplayer game alive really

>>125390475
>>125390667
That's cool, thanks for the info. Any word on when the next DLC will be or rumors of what their planning to add?

>>125391040
New maps are the only thing confirmed so far.

>>125391040
Maps are the only certainty although the loot tables are bound to expand too
soon

>>125391109
>>125391040

And new characters, versus mode, and new enemies. They talked about a lot in the reddit AMA.

>>125391040
>>125391109
>>125391265
>>125391534
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vermintide/comments/3pwtbv/summary_of_the_ama_with_fatshark_at_rgames/

>>125391534
>>125391741
He said next dlc though, not entire plans for the future which I bet most of it wont even be fulfilled

>>125391843
Oh OK, my bad. I misunderstood what he meant.

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GET OUT WUTELGIS

OKRIIIIIIIIIIIIII

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By how much? Coz I am SHREDDING Storms and Ogres with this

>>125340203
>get a extra face chosen decide to make him a tank
>get shield skills on him
>he grows a sword arm at level 5

>>125354774
you can promote a hero unit to leader

>>125394620
Best result is sword/axe arm level 1

Then you can fully commit to that build, then for your 2nd 3rd etc mutants you can get away with not skilling them until level 5 if you skill some base troops to help carry

>tfw getting the hat giveaway dwarf helm before the contest is even oven

I'm going to get the most nasty surprise.

>>125395406
there's one for each class

So giving the host the ability to kick players going to be a thing? I've had three games of nightmare Wizard's Tower loss because of sub-level 15s joining my game.

>>125396937
You might as well just set your game to private and play with meatshield bots if you don't have any friends to play with.
They may be dumb as bricks but at least they can block and wont just fuck off anyway whenever they go down or get themselves killed so you can just feed them to the rats indefinitely and focus on keeping yourself alive.

Besides, the kick system is completely broken right now and there's absolutely nothing stopping players that were kicked from rejoining your server.

So, what's the best One-hander to go with shields for Mercs in Mordenheim? I've been using spears, but the damage is starting to feel underwhelming when fighting all these heavy armor/shield fucks.

>>125337397
Really? They seem to make a fucking bee line for me immediately after they catch sight of one of my units. They'll charge through overwatch fire and somehow charge through ambushes which is super bullshit since I'm pretty sure they don't all have the increased charge range skill

>>125399491
You have to give them vision to chase you

If you just set up defensively and hide like a bitch the AI won't play into your trap, plus y'know you won't do the secondary objective that way

>>125400153
Makes sense. I haven't ever tried turtling like a bitch until after I've at least seen one of them.

>>125398006
Hopefully Fatshark, does something about that in the future.

also fuck everyone that has an attack that can't be parried

>>125395406
Your surprise is going to arrive with an extra helping of nasty.

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Hey fuckers, I made you a new meme cuz I know you guys hate elves. And I hate fuckers who use hagbane

>>125400293
I've had a long ass match where it was a big map and the ai and me were constantly moving around each other

Once you get seen once the whole thing breaks down into combat pretty quickly.

I think it's different from other TBS' because in most of them there's some element of AI cheating where they use the knowledge of the player to move vaguely towards you

>>125400759
>conflag instead of laser

>>125400759
9/10
Change it to beam and it will be perfect.

>>125402073
To be fair conflag was the original top tier since the huge ass aoe isn't friendly fire.

>bolt staff will never be anything other than meh

>have mic
>never talk unless someone else does first
>if they don't have a mic and use text I just use text
does anyone else do this
I'm not really insecure I just don't like using my voice that much

Any reason I shouldn't salvage this piece of shit exotic soldier hat?

What other heroes could they add for the Empire or Dwarves? Kruber and Saltzy represent pretty much every kind of Empire troop I can think of, and Bardin's arsenal covers Dwarves pretty well too.

Maybe a dual-wielding Slayer and a Warrior Priest. Still hard to make them unique and they'd need different ranged weapons or in the case of a WP something else entirely.

>>125403390
Slayer for MAXIMUM AXE
Cousin Okri
another Wizard?
Warrior Priest
Flagellant (Lower your health, the more you shit on rats. Maybe have charged flail attacks hurt yourself if they miss)
Other than that, I'd like to see a Bretonnian Herrimault for flaming arrows, pavise shields, polearms and DISREGARD THE NOBILITY

>>125404316
>Slayer for MAXIMUM AXE
DUAL GREAT AXES
THROWING AXES
AXES WITH AXES ON THEM

>Flagellant (Lower your health, the more you shit on rats. Maybe have charged flail attacks hurt yourself if they miss)
Flail is a really cool concept

>Bretonnian Herrimault
Very flavourful, I dig it.

>another Wizard
Maybe the Grey Wizard from the tower? Of course, they'll have to change the audio files for the level, but I think the bantz would be top tier.

>>125403390
Maybe an Empire Archer/Huntsman that's essentially a mix between kruber and kerillian?

Pistoliers that are mix between Kruber and Saltzpyre.

Reikguard Foot with a harlberds or other polearms to differentiate between kruber.

Possibly a Dwarf Miner that uses a pickaxe and has a bundle of TNT or whatever as a thrown secondary range weapon? I have no idea how a dwarf miner would find his way to some dinky Empire city.

>>125403390
I really want to see an engineer.

>>125403390

It's not for empire or dwarves, but I wonder how they'd do a Bretonnian Knight (probably Errant). Since they swear off ranged weapons as DISHONORABLE. Possibly some sort of makeup mechanic for it, where they take less damage from enemy ranged attacks or something like that due to the Lady's Favor? Or being able to bring two different melee loadouts might be worth it...

>>125406138
>two different melee loadouts

Sword and board for close range, and a spear/lance for long?

>>125406626
5 foot pike to counter new rat cavalry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O0PxvYtDRk

>>125406009
I want a gold wizard that can literally melt stormvermin armor.

>>125407000
>Interview with Kerillian

>>125406138
Can Bret knights throw melee weapons at the enemy or is that dishonorable too? How would bombs work?

>>125407000
Husband got c.ucked by rats.

>>125407646

Brettonian Knights forswear all ranged and gunpowder weapons; they don't even allow the latter to their peasentry, as an affront to their Lady. Mind you, part of the Lady's blessing to the brettonian people involves a one-in-three chances ot literally shrug off cannon fire, so one shouldn't try to anger her muchly.

>>125407000
This is some advanced heresy going on.

The axe+shield for dwarf seems really inferior to the hammer because the axe only takes out 1 rat per normal hit while the hammer takes down a ton

Am I right or am I just an idiot?

>>125412482
yup

>>125412482
Axe+sheild has a faster charged attack, Just spam charged attack, block and sheild bash when nessecary. Your team should get the kills, it your job to keep the rats away from them/snipe specials

>>125403014
Me in most games

people react weird to voice chat sometimes

>>125413846
I love the people who refuse to use the voice chat and stop dead in combat to type.

OFFICIAL MELEE WEAPON TIER LIST

God Tier:
Rapier
Sword Dagger
2H Hammer
Sword/Axe + Shield
BW Sword

Okay Tier:
Mace/Hammer + Shield
2H Axe
ES Greatsword
Dual Swords
Flame Sword

Shit:
Everything else.

>>125391843
Yeah they seem to have lofty goals for a game that hemmoraged 10,000 players in the first week.
The only way to even get 1/3rd of them back is if the next DLC is free as well, or like less than $10 I don't see a huge chunk of people coming back unless they introduced something spectacular.

>>125414327
I don't know how you can honestly put the 2H Axe in okay tier but also call the WH greatsword shit.

>>125414327
I'd switch your BW sword's tiers but other than that spot on.

>>125414523
Woops forgot about WH GS but yeah okay tier.

>>125414593
The headshot attribute is just too good and the burning of the flame sword is meh. I still use Flame Sword anyway because it fits well with the BW's A E S T H E T I C

>>125416704
Usually everyone's servers are too laggy and shitty for me to do accurate headshots so the dot is my backup

>>125417354
that's why I host

>>125372757
edgy

>>125400759
jesus

I know it's nightmare but seriously. Handgun and Beam are the only answer to everything ever.

>>125403390
>all the Empire has to offer
That's not you pronounce
Halberdier.

Archers. Spearmen. Pikemen(won't work).

A little Halfling shit who gets gangbanged by the squad. A Pirate who has trading around in the docks. An Araby spice/slave merchant.

Is Bloodlust, Normal Swift Slaying, Devastating blow/Something defensive like perfect balance an ideal trait setup on greatswords?

Regrowth on normal attacks, Berserking and devastating blow/perfect balance seems like it could be nice as well.

>>125406138
Maybe something like being able to fucking push or block Packmaster like you can an Eshin.

Or like some nigger said last time. Give him a "call out" ability where he marks somebody and his squire takes at it from fuck knows where and it has ammo or a cooldown.

>>125418104
I live in Ohio in the US and sometimes I just can't host. Not enough people play for me to reliably host.
I have 4 friends who live within 15mins of me and we play a lot, but when I do pugs if I try and host it takes 20-30mins to get a full squad.

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>>125407330

>>125421351
And all I said in this post, trying to Cata Pug is fucking useless. NM is like Normal to me, last time I successfully hosted a Cata Pug and got 4 people 2 of them left as soon as slot #4 was filled by a lv22 elf, they didn't even stay long enough for me to initiate vote kick..

>>125421283
Packmasters needs to be like either the smoker or the Jockey in L4D, we either need to be able to mash buttons to slow it down or change its direction so it can't duck down 6 different halls, or it needs smoker logic.

>>125408802
Who do they even fight that uses cannons? Pirates? Border Princes? I'm pretty sure they'll get furiously cooked if they fought Edgy Elves.

>>125421632

Pirates, border princes, The Empire on occasion. I was talking tabletop rules wise; The Blessing of the Lady provides a 6+ Ward Save (applies against everything) to all Knightly units, increased to 5+ against attacks with a strength of 5 or higher--so cannons, monsters, their Lady's BLessing is so strong that a Knight can, one out of three times, just ignore being stomped on by a giant or shot with a cannon or impaled with a trebuchet.

>running newbie friends through a short nightmare mission for keks
>a random joins at the very last minute
>starting shooting him in the ass for keks
>he turns around and tries to beam me down
>gets gutter runner'd
>newbie friends go down
>laughing my ass off in the wagon as everybody's dying
>wagon doesn't leave
>killed through the sides
>"That's what you get for being a prick" as I'm laughing harder than I ever have

Who the fuck did that guy think he was?

>>125421578
Whats smoker logic?

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Do these ornamented bombs perform any differently?

Also. Is the curse trinket worth shit? Right now I have dupe health on use 20%, health people around when healing meself orange(to get them out of grey state) and could equip either dupe on pickup I think 20% or revive 40% faster.

>>125421845
Curse trinket is the best trinket for farming with 2 grims, since it gives you a much larger health pool.

>>125403014
I'm not going to go around full extrovert faggotry and talk about my life but I do say things like "health", "behind u", "hooker" etc.

>>125421845
They're improved bombs, they do more damage.

>>125421770
>grind my ass and git gud to finally give nm a try
>join some game
>random kek with pony avatar starts shooting me
>memespouting on the chat
>we wipe
>a couple more fedoratipping 'karma is a bitch' messages from brony

>>125421234
>Normal Swift Slaying
Why are you using normal attacks again?

>>125421746
>impaled with a trebuchet
I'd like to fucking see that.

>>125421991
That sounds awful.

>>125422149

I meant with a ballista, but let's be honest, someone stabbing you with a trebuchet is probably gonna be str 5 or higher in the tabletop.

>>125421746
And who besides the noble Lizardmen fight Dork Elves? They seem to have technology and magic as fuckedly powerful as Skaven but actually reliable.

>>125422149
meid me giggl

>>125421953
but why would you ornament something that's bound to be destroyed on use

>>125422306

Well, Dark Elves are also pirates, so anyone with a coast ends up fighting them on a semi-regular basis.

>>125422247
Does the minus stand for plus or minus? Like -5 is minus five or plus five or plain five?

>>125422058
They seem to work pretty well with greatswords a lot of the time.

>>125422447
Same reason your mom puts on make up.

Get memed on family.

>>125422554

Not sure what yo mean by the minus, but, like, the way the tabletop works iis you're rolling six-sided dice--d6s--for various things, and you need X or higher, so you need an X+. For Bret's ward saves from the Lady's Blessing, you need a 6+ or a 5+ (so just a six, or a five or a six) on the die for the ward save for the model in question to not take damage from an attack.

>>125422667
I ain't your family, kouhai.

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>elf-bitch face when just came-came in elf-thing

>>125422447
it's warhammer
they ornament fucking anything they use to kill

DEAD

So I've beaten the game on nightmare difficulty, and am looking to beat it on cataclysm. Is there any way to reliably get groups with good players?

I have a friend who plays, and is good, but two people can't carry a cata run on their own... especially not with random pugs who not only suck, but give up after the first failure.

I used to put good players I found on my friends list, but I have never seen them in Vermintide beyond the first night I met them.

I am pretty leery of joining some 4chan steam group; is there another way?

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dead as fuck. What happened anons? I haven't played since release....

>>125427759
http://steamcharts.com/app/235540

2600 per day sounds good

fatkike happened

FREE HAT FREE HAT FREE HAT FREE HAT FREE

I've started play Mordheim as a chaos faction and this RNG is pissing me off along with the AI knowing where everyone is at all times even if they don't have LoS. They also seem to be getting a completely arbitrary amount of movement/attack points and it doesn't help that all my guys except my hero and leader can attack once and thats it when the enemy can attack twice. I've only been up against the rat fuckers so far mind you but I'm starting to get pissed off especially with the whole manually picking crap up if I want to get reasonable rewards instead of just getting it all at the end.

>>125429003
They were both already in the game. My friend is now stuck with 2 of the dwarf ones and they can't be salvaged.

>>125429003
>>125429295
>Our artists have created two brand new hats which will be given for free to all members of our official Steam Group!
>brand new
What the fuck they were both in the game.

>>125429210
>along with the AI knowing where everyone is at all times even if they don't have LoS.
it's funny because they don't

>>125429003
>hat for both hero i play the most
THANKS SIGMAR

>>125429210
boohoo I bought a game known for its unforgiving rng and now I don't like it boo

Changes to Input
- Gave weapon switching priority in input queuing to avoid attacks from blocking or cancelling queued weapon switches

PRAISE SIGMAR

>>125429210
RNG's pretty mean, but that can't be helped. Watching a guy fail a 70+ climb check three times in a row is just the saddest fucking thing ever.

Positioning is absolutely key. I wouldn't bother with ranged dudes at the start, you need more melee fags so you can gang up on fuckers and force all alone checks.
Attacking more isn't always so great. You can use a two handed weapon or dual wield to maximize the damage you do in your first strike.
I generally have half my guys carrying halberds for big numbers on the charge and a shield/one hander that I switch to at the end of the second round of combat (So, charge, parry, next turn, attack, switch, parry stance). The other half have ranged weapons and shield/1h secondaries. I feel this gives me more versatility, allowing me to either really swarm the enemy if the terrain allows it, or to still contribute damage if it doesn't. The one handers allow more attacks in a turn, but the increase parry and resistance from the shield is the main draw for me. One hander damage blows.

>>125430873
It doesn't seem to have fixed it for charged attacks on weapons other than the two handed hammer and maybe the two handed axe and swords, but I don't have those to test with.

>we got 2 new masks for gorup members!
>keep those helmets flying ;)
>don't forget the verminfest next week!

>>125431048
>70
Anything bellow 95 is a miracle if it didn't fail

>>125434252
I've had three 95% attacks fail in a row.
Of course, that was immediately followed by an enemy fucking up his curse rolls so bad that he straight up died, so I guess the dice wanted the kill.

>>125434172
please don't remind me this piece of shit game

I want to see Kerillian's face.

>>125434874
>an enemy fucking up his curse rolls so bad that he straight up died
I'm glad this hasn't happen to me yet. I'm actually scared of using casters since that bitch of Sigmar hilariously died in front of me.

Oh yeah, another thing I forgot to mention about having ranged weapons on all my fuckers.
It allows them to continue contributing damage even if they've been wounded such that I would not risk them in melee.
It really helped in the library story mission. I was spread out like a fucking numpnuts, goddamn teleportation, so a team of four dudes found and fought the curator dude on their own while the other groups fought daemons and stuff. Due to some awful positioning, the fight was such that I could only have two guys in melee with him at once. So, the other two plinked away with their crossbows and such, while two fought in melee. The melee guys got very heavily wounded because of the melee resistance debuff in the room, but my positioning wasn't so poor as to not let me disengage. So, I pulled the wounded out and rotated the fresh guys in, and had the wounded whip out their ranged weapons and fire away, and so I barely managed to kill that guy without having anyone downed.

>>125435239
My warlock keeps dying before I can get anything other than blinding light. It's a shame, I got a kickass purple staff from the curator. Guess I just need to find a good bow.

HABBENIGN!

Shrine patch?

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>>125435121

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>>125436173
2 hats you stupid piece of shit

>>125436173
>shrine
>when you can get perfect traits and perfect rolls with CE
>I-I don't want to read through the item list!

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>>125436440
>Cheating niggers

Fix the axes you fucking faggots I cannot into dorf without a magnificent two handed axe.

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>>125436273

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>>125437164
human kerilian would dom elf kerilian

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>>125435121

>>125438028
>tfw your rat lover is too rough

so since vermintide is on life support, we're getting more mordheim posts, and with total war just around the corner should we be rebranding to a warhammer fantasy general? the vermintide steam group has been kill-slayed and abandoned already anyways.

>>125438028
The typical face of bestiality. Those dogfucker camwhores always have scars from the animals that they let fuck them.

>>125439286
no

>>125439286
Total war stays in total war senpai.

>>125439457

You sound unusually knowledgeable about the subject

>I'll show you how a doctor of Lorehn dies.

>>125439772
It's been peaking in popularity in shithole for some time now and there's that blonde babe hottie who fucks her alaskan mamalute(?) bitch with peanut butter and it's pretty hot.

Then you have those awful girls fucking rottweilers and other nasty dogs.

*I think it's an alaskan mamalute.

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>>125440218
>that blonde babe hottie who fucks her alaskan mamalute(?) bitch with peanut butter and it's pretty hot.

>>125429210
check your weapons and their effects. check your OP on each henchmen. Henchmen with 4OP can attack twice with single handed weapons as it doesn't have a tiring effect. The AI is actually incredibly dumb and easy to abuse and they just explore all over the map. Turtle up and remember that they never actually target your shrine/wagon so theres never a need to stay near it. Skaven are incredibly weak against all alone checks and you want to abuse that as much as possible.

Of course these strategies are horrible to go by in multiplayer but against AI, you can never lose when turtling up (unless a demon fucks your shit)

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>500mb patch for 2 hats

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>>125442564
Probably using the same shit system that UE does.

>>125440916
It's the only decent one. The final part of the webm were they both look at each other and she smiles makes me all warm and fuzzy.

But im not a dogfucker so I can't do anything with it.

>>125442742
>UE

>>125442564
Both the hats were already in the game, too. I wonder what the fuck was actually changed.

>>125442875
Sorry, UE3.

Does that sate your autism better?

>>125443074
nasty

sur

How long do you give this game before they throw in cosmetics and barrels-crates?

>see a 900mb patch
>expect new altar pages
>its fucking nothing
jesus

What are the perfect traits for drakefires?

>nm
>rolling bw with my new CE weapons
>getting hp left and right with staff and sword
>dorf is al right but out of his league
>wh is absolutely disastrous, he is the host
>elf is too lagged to give a verdict but in short sucks too
>fucking wh insist on intentionally jumping in front of my beam
>position myself as far away from them and close to a wall before sniping specials
>he still somehow manages to be there
>rakogri spawns
>chuck down a str potty
>begin to fire
>somehow my beam is hitting an invisible wall
>wathever I move away
>wh is down to 2 squares of health
>he somehow managed to be infront of me again
And none of these guys communicated. There was an elf who spoke English but he came after killing the ogre. I wonder what the hell went through their minds.

At the end I topped all the scores save for damage taken, I wonder why they make the guy with the MOST dmg take the first place rather than the guy with the less dmg taken.

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>inb4 crossbow
I like it for nightmare. It's a handgun without hitscan and 100 penetration.

>>125446618
Is tartegteer even worth it? I don't want to kill slave runs elf style, I just want to use it's RMB during waves.

>>125446618 Was meant to reply to >>125446440


I prefer Mastercrafted because while Stability gives you 4 more shots for a total of 24 or 2 more charged ones the amount of time it takes to fire them is horrendously high due to the overheat. Mastercrafted lefts you fire the default 20 shots at higher speed without speed penalty when overheating.

>>125446726
A drakefire has complete shit accuracy. You're lucky to hit anything in mid-range without Targeteer.

The objective of a drake is to heal you up and stunlock Storm, Eshin and Gunners.

The shotgun fire during hordes is not even going to kill Clanrats(think of a beam shotgun), but it will be enough to stun them and for your friends or yourself to finish them off. The most important part is that you're healing a lot while doing so.

I personally favor a good Handgun(master, ammo, penet/health) over a good pair of Drakes.

>>125444189
they explicitly stated there will never be microtransactions. this game is already basically dead they can't afford to do what overkill did to payday 2

at which level should i stop playing on hard just for the sake of grinding ?

>>125447031
30

>>125447012
Oveyshill brought the community back alive with a fuckton of content of lackluster quality before going full Valve on skins and Creative Assembly on dlc. Do you think these Cumfest bullshit and Gaydaycon was a thing back in the first years?

What about KF2? Game's "dead" by common standards considering only a dedicated community plays it.

daily reminder that cutting heads is more important than flimsy burn damage

>>125447202
this game hasn't sold nearly as many copies as either of those games did before they added their crate systems, and has barely retained 1% of its install base over 2 months.

the devs have outright said every single time they've been asked that there will be no microtransactions in vermintide. whether you believe them or not is up to you.

>>125444189
>barrel crate
>you must find them in the game map
>you have to carry it like a regular barrel to the end to get it in your inv
>pay 2€ to open it
>it's a green weapon

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>join a nm game
>hagbane elf
>wh xbow
>bw fireball

What are ideal traits to look out for on BW melee weapons and Beam/Conflag staves?

>>125447939
>no microtransactions

Yeah that's horseshit. They'll go back on that before next spring, I guarantee it.

>tfw I now have a total of 3 of the soldier's "exclusive" hats and can't salvage them because they're purple now.
Fatshaaaaaark

>>125449457
steel sword: berserking, bloodlust, charged rune
beam staff: stability, mastercrafted, regrowth

Fucking Mordheim
>XD le only brutal and hard mission allowed
>XD AI HAS FREE DAMAGE AND CHANCE TO HIT PLUS ONE MORE HENCHMAN THAT YOU CAN POSSIBLY HAVE XD
>LE DONT MIND A FULL TURN WITHOUT HITTING ANYONE
>XD LET ME JUST STUN HALF YOUR WARBAND THE SAME TURN XXXD

Cuckboys, would you recommend this game?

It's either this or Rainbow Sex

>>125450218
vermintide is cheaper so you wont feel that much regret if u wont like it

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>>125450206
The Warhammer world is a dangerous place.

>>125450218
Are you the same person asking this in every thread? Get Vermintide.

Is that backstabber trait any good? I wanna try it out on dual daggers vs a rat ogre.

>>125337397
If the AI is doing the same thing that you are, doesn't that mean YOU suck too? I would recommend sending a sacrificial lamb out to draw some of them into your ambush. Once they're in combat, the rest will follow suit and right into your trap. I do it a lot, I play a Skaven warband.
>For the Horned Rat!

>>125449364
>nm
>implying gear matters at all

>>125457170
This, although even with the most effective weapons people manage to be terrible, so it's not that surprising for the situation to look even worse if they're using bad weapons as well.

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>>125449457
>>125449989
>berserking
enjoy not being able to fend of storm when they inevitably get close enough

>stability
I find absolutely no difference at all between stability or no stability. 7 shotgun blasts and 40 seconds of beam.

My only max roll regrowth is on a master,stability beam tho.

>inb4 m-muh mlg team

will we get 2nd and 3rd page of the altar this year?

>>125457738
>I find absolutely no difference at all between stability
it's 10% of difference.

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>>125457842
This week / next one prob.

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>>125451962
>tfw no glorious ogrette battle waifu
I actually enjoy doing this bullshit with the mouse

>>125404773
Isn't Gray Magic all about shadows and illusions? I'm not sure they're really face to face fighters, but then again I don't know much. What I DO know is that Saltzpyre would NOT be happy with a Gray Wizard.

>>125457976
How many more castings is that? By trying it out at the in the amount is the same.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=574267820

Another scrub who plays only Mangos.

>>125459148

Saltzpyre is a Witch Hunter. While they don't necessarily approve of the Empire's trained wizards, if they aren't breaking the law or dabbling in forbidden magic, there's not shit they can do against them.

Those shitty emoti faces in the ama. Was it done in whatssap?

> a full chaos team against skaven
I could get behind that.

>Is there any potential for future releases on consoles?
>Martin, CEO: The consoles are now planned for Q1 2016!
I think there's not enough aimbot in the peasant world to make this game playable there.

Maybe they'll just make it babby mode with hoe=easy.

>>125459493
Fair. But that does not change Salty's disposition toward magic in general. Gray Wizards (according to in game tip-fact) are the least trusted out of all schools, Sigmar knows what Vic thinks of them. He'd give himself hemorrhoids being stuck in a carriage with one of them.

>>125461558

Least trusted by the common folk, maybe, but Saltzpyre's a witch hunter. A grey wizard, by profession, is going to be a sneaky bastard, sure, but he's (at least nominally) on the Empire's side, and he's (no more likely to be than any other Imperial Wizard) no chaos cultist or necromancer, which is the important thing.

Still, it's true that Saltzpyre probably wouldn't like it, but I doubt he'd be more than Annoyed.

>Level 76 WH
>Using an axe
>Goes down 3 times and dies
>On Hard

I was thinking "well it's only hard, so whatever", but then they died, so...I dunno.

>>125459130
original plox

>love using axe/shield
>decide to rush my way to get an orange axe/shield by upgrading
>1% to slay any sized enemy
>1-3% to raise speed up to 30%
>one more stamina to block

i spent so much time upgrading my blue axe/shield it actually kind of hurt

>>125450218
Siege is a f2p csgoalike that costs 40 snoops
Vermintide is left4dead with loot rolls

They're not much alike

>>125462460
I see. He is a bit more lenient than most other Witch Hunters, I've gathered. Whatever gets the job done, and I am seeing your point that so long as the Grey Wiz is of the Empire, Salty would probably be all right with him. Though I'm still questioning the combat benefits of gray magic, aside from maybe scaring them off.

>>125464064
what about squad


I dont like those red orchestra/battlefield tier games but it seems popular

>>125464427
Sienna can't make a commet fall down from the sky.

He could cast a wall, a ghost, a huge cat. Maybe make some of the rats look like people and have them kill each other.

>>125457842
>>125458070

[Fatshark]LiVam [developer] 9 hours ago
>Originally posted by Fyneas:
>Thanks but awaited so much the reroll traits feature to be released...
>Can we have an idea of the date ? (Couple of days ? A week ? A month ?...)
We're hoping for mid-January


:^)

>>125465383

Seriously?

>>125465020
Ooh, that sounds pretty gnarly actually. Give those shields a rest with that wall, and the Skaven are definitely prone to infighting already, Lord knows what bruhahas illusions would cause. I'm not terribly familiar with Warhammer outside of Vermintide and Mordheim, I'll have to look some of this up. What about the other winds of magic, any interesting possibilities there?

>>125464427
>>125465020

Well, just from the last edition of the wargame's core rulebook I have on hand, lemme go to the grey magic section...

The Lore Attribute (which the wizard just gets) lets him swap places with characters whenever he casts a spell. The signature spell reduces stats of an enemy unit.

Aside from that, there's a buff to let a friendly fly, another debuff, another debuff, a direct damage spell that acts more or less like a cannon, another direct damage spell that instantly kills targets, and another buff.

The two direct damage spells are, fluffwise, 'summoning a spectral pendulum and make it swing--is it real or is it fake?' and 'open a portal to a pit of illusion and madness to let people fall into it'. Grey Magic is not just illusions; it is teleportation, prestidigitation, and mental magic of all sorts. After all, a mind that thinks it should be dead is just as dead as a mind that is.

>>125465886
yeah but that fucker needed like 7min to cast his thing and he was obviously jerking off with a furious passion while at it

>>125465824

The Winds/Lores of magic are quite varied. The 'Regular' Lores that make up the Winds of Magic are as follows:
The Lore of Fire, The Lore of Beasts, the Lore of Metal, the Lore of LIght, the Lore of Life, the Lore of Heavens, the Lore of Shadow, and the Lore of Death. You're already famiilar with Fire from the game, and Shadow from >>125465886 , so let me touch on the others briefly.

The Lore of Beasts is all about buffing and transformation. It's practicioners take on aspects of beasts, as well as summoning them under their control.

The Lore of Metal is, similarly, very buff-centric; the Gold Wizards are masters of alchemy, able to turn bodies into gold... and make limbs of steel sharp as blades.

The Lore of Life is focused around control and healing; those who practice it can mend any wound... and bring forth the wrath of the earth itself against their foes.

The Lore of Heavens is a scholarly lore, focusing on studying the stars... and bringing their influence down to earth, calling in death from above as well as various curses and hexes.

The Lore of Death is *not* Necromancy. it is more closely related to psychopomping; it is focused around the ending of natural life and the moving on of spirits to the next world.

On top of these Lores of Magic, you have other types of magic in the setting; The High Magic of the High Elves, the Dark Magic of the Dark Elves, Chaotic Magic from the Gods of Chaos, you have Necromancy as practiced by the Vampire Counts and Tomb Kings (!Egyptian Mummies), you have the Skaven's two types of magic (plague and... generic skaveny magic) plus their warpstone engineering tricks; you have the ice magic of kislev and the djinn-binding of araby, there's the ogre's gut magic and the ork's waaaagh magic...

>>125466498

Don't forget the Celestial Magic of the Slann, the most ridiculous plot magic bullshit you can possibly imagine.

>>125466498

Mind you, we wouldn't get a true master of the Lore of Heavens in vermintide.

They are not empire wizards but Cathay.

>>125463031
>tfw I've had these people numerous times on nightmare.
I wish some people realized how important it is to cc hordes even if you have a guy with a shield.

>>125339067

It's kinda completely crippling.

Which is weird when the original Mordhiem TT? Didn't have the option to lose legs. You could get them smashed and be a little slower but in theory everything was curable with an apothecary (Though you were running a risk with the surgery)

>>125463892
Artist is cedargrove.

>use sword
>I cant land a fucking headshot it still takes 2-3 body shots to kill
>use flaming sword
>it takes 2-3 body shots to kill
>fuck I wish I had a sword I could just headshot these fags
every time

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>Tfw you snipe an Assasin mid air,saving your beloved Wizardfu

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With the upcoming shrine pages in mind, what perks would you guys reccomend for WH's Two-Handed Sword and Brace Pistols? Any good combinations?

I'm thinking of picking up Vermintide and wondering how the elf is.

I'll admit, I'm a bit iffy about the fact that the elf only has a single ranged weapon in comparison to the other classes. Or do the arrow types make that much difference?

Can every class do melee and range equally well or is the elf dedicated ranged?

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>>125466498
>Lore of Metal
>mfw I have this and not a fucking metal picture

>>125468741
Regrowth and whatever is the name of the perk that gives you more ammo on the pistols.
Berserk on the two-handed sword.

>>125466498
>and make limbs of steel sharp as blades
so.. you turn the enemy's sword into a leg and beat him up with said leg?

>>125468356
>spoonfeeding
>not letting anon merely google "female ogre porn"
>raising people like this

>>125468234
Surgery was added in a late edition IIRC, the game tends to stick to core MH stuff

>>125469389

Clearly they should have gone with Corehiem. Then we could have all the rape jokes you want about how the Sisters of Sigmar don't exist!

Yes I'm still bitter about the Corehiem devs

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>>125468528
>not lewd schierke loli goddess

>>125468998
I want fuck to Nicki Minaj like a Skaven fucks the Elf.

>>125469114
that's not how you spell berserking and devastating blow

>>125468741
some combinations just can't be, check the code list thing and see for yourself which suits you

>>125469616
>Corehiem
doesn't gay goyshop just rewrite its story a million times like cuckthesda does with tes?

>tfw the only two classes avaliable in a game are the ones you don't play
Has the empire soldier got a good option that isn't 1h and shield? I always play dwarf for that

>>125470163
Yes. It's called 2h Hammer and it's the best for the Dwarf as well. It seems you need a good dose of git gud.

>>125469114

>Ammo holder
>For bop

Shitter detected. Shouldn't you be playing elf and fagbaning trash rats

>most elf players are now using hagbane

Let this fucking nightmare end, they don't even try to avoid friendly fire.

>>125470265
>not bashing everyone with the grudge raker

git gud

>>125469130

No, as in they turn their arm into a sword and stab rats with it.

>>125468498
>use flaming sword
>nobody can see shit

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>join us game
>more lag than if I had joined a zimwaneb game
I fucking hate getting through blocks and rats doing a superman run attack that is impossible to properly block when they already hit you in 2016

>>125471067
Reddit shitters are fucking praising the the hagbane bow, that's why.

>>125472674
There was a meme comic up there yesterday criticising it

Noticed because it was posted here as well