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>Deck lists, news etc:
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/
http://www.hearthstonetopdeck.com/

>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/
https://www.youtube.com/user/adwcta/videos
>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com/
http://hearthrank.com/

>Watch and learn quest
Post your battletag on the thread and ask for an invite
https://sites.google.com/site/hsgresources1/battletags/

>Deck Tracker:
https://github.com/Epix37/Hearthstone-Deck-Tracker/releases

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>>125234763
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>people think miracle rogue is back
>when face shaman exists

Enjoy your literal 100-0 match up
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first for renolock and freeze mage is the best deck in this meta :^)
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Reposting from previous thread.
Justicar Trueheart or Sylvanas for mid range Paladin? Don't have any adventures yet.
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>>125294287
>can think of a deck that counters both of those
>but loses to all the agro decks

What is life
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When are Reno, Elise, and Finley going to be incorporated into WoW?
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>>125294447
>expects to be able to make a deck that counters everything
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>opponent uses Elise
>kill him the turn after he drops the monkey when we've got 3 cards left in our decks

>30 minute matches that go into fatigue
>i have over 60 armor

>he plays a secret
>I take it
>Ice Block/Mirror Entity

>drop Justicar
>instant concede

>gets me down to lethal next turn
>pull off some improbably multi-card combo bullshit as oil rogue for 20+ HP of lethal

Fuck being good at the game. Post when you harvest the suffering of others.
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>>125294506
When is Med'an going to be incorporated into WoW and Hearthstone?
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>>125294140
>thinks deck is bad because it doesn't fit current meta

enjoy rank 20
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>>125294287
I agree.

I made a cheap reno lock deck with all my strong taunts and people just run out of steam.

Reno heal for 29 feels so cheap though

I feel like a mage holding flamestrike
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>>125295025
>thinks deck is bad NOW because it doesn't fit the current meta NOW

I'm pretty sure that's called a bad deck

If new support comes out for it later or other classes are nerfed it might be good

Right now it's shit
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>>125295139
One of my problems with renolock is I have no way to kill the opponent but a lot of ways to clear board and stay alive
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>>125295297

That's what Jaraxxus is for.
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>>125294506

I'd be pretty down with them copying League of Explorers for part of a raid tier

>temple escape gauntlet boss. Vault of the Thunder King Scenario as a raid encounter
>mine cart boss vs armies of troggs: YOU are Operator Tho'gar and need to avoid being overwhelmed
>a giant skeletal t-rex
>godzilla sized murloc
>some crazy naga fuckers, make the warlord and the witch a pair who buff themselves and the raid. you ride a line between getting strong enough to deal with naga/murlocs and letting the warlord get too swole
>Rafaam actively steals abilities from the raid based on phases... i.e. Phase 1 who is actively tanking him, Phase 2 whoever is highest on DPS after 10 seconds into it, Phase 3 Chaos/Mixed
>Rafaam the Supreme Archaeologist fight as a separate encounter, maximum Ethereal fuckery

>League of Explorer's reputation faction and quest chains
>hi-res hat cosmetic
>explorer's whip toy
>Finley and Golden Monkey pets
>Elise for follower waifu
>Reno for follower husbando
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http://no-info.no-ip.info/hearthstone/

have fun, guys.
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HELP
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>>125295297
>leeroy + faceless
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>>125295572
Mini mage
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>>125295572

Clockwork. You have nothing atm that Naga helps. Lol at Mini-Mage.
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>>125294407
I run both desu, but Justicar is the better pick
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>>125295572
Mini-Mage, as both of the other cards suck giant donkey nuts and at least MM can be pseudo-removal or burst damage.
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Why aren't you having fun, /hsg/?
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Daily thread reminder. There's no need to thank me. I'm just doing my job as your friendly neighborhood anon.

For those of you who are still in denial, or can't get past 'muh fighting game analogy,' here's some more required reading.
>http://hearthstoneplayers.com/playing-win-part-one-defeating-scrub-mentality/
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>>125295572
sea witch

check my five
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>>125295572
Minimage is guaranteed 4 damage trade. You probably wont be able to drop clock early but he's still potentially decent late game value and naga can hurt more than help
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>>125295459
>play jaraxxus
>die
This meta is rough

>>125295687
Nobody runs those two
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>>125295572
>sword of justice
>Mukla's Champion
just close your eyes and click randomly, you'll probably win
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>>125295765
Thanks Oni-chan, crafted Justicar.
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balanced?
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>>125295982

In bursty matchups your midgame threats are enough to close the game. Where you need Jaraxxus is games that end in resource wars, like Priest and Midrange Paladin. The tough one is Warrior, because their burst is basically one card.
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This is actually cool.
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>>125296202
Justicar is run in about 3-4 decks, but they're the most fun
Sylvanas can really be run in anything, but doesnt add a huge amount of power to the deck. Just a good minion that gets value
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Watch and learn quest
Temporal#1349
pls
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>>125296445
this is a boulderfist for 4 mana with the benefit of foe reaper, broken
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>>125296450
I don't have cards for heroes other than Paladin and Warlock and I mostly play the Paladin.
Now I'll just gather dust for Sylvanas.
Also I'm thinking of buying an adventure. Probably Naxxramas for Zombie Chow, Loathweb and Sludge Belchers.
What do you think?
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>>125296782
i believe it's intended as a drawback. Also damages the minions next to THIS minion
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>>125296782
Read the card again.
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>>125296782
Well the stats and the cost are dumb, but the idea of a card that has a high attack/health value for its mana cost with the downfall of also damaging adjacent friendly minions is an interesting one.
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>>125295297
Try out Rafaam. If you have board control, which isn't always that hard as Renolock, you can take the +10/+10 which is pretty substantial. Have Brann out? Pick two options and go for broke. Like anything in Hearthstone, none of that is guaranteed, but I've been enjoying Rafaam in Renolock.
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An amazingly balanced card.
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OC time.
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Okay I just finished the tutorial and am about to go into my first PVP match.
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>>125296817
BRM has solemn vigil as.... the only good paladin playable card, unless you think you can make paladin dragons work.

Naxx gets you the best secret (avenge) , mad scientists, haunted creepers, ooze, chow, loatheb and belcher.

Loe grabs you Keeper of Uldaman, jeweled scarab, huge toad (if playing with reno) and Reno.

For the amount of paladin playable cards, you probably want to get naxx to start. especially to play midrange pally
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Consecration or mechwarper? Have tons of mechs in this draft and I'm kinda hurting for two drops, but I have no board clear either.
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>>125297489
I enjoy playing mid range the most. Don't like secret Paladin.
I will probably buy LoE later with gold.
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Is it true that aggro decks get rarer and rarer a syou rank up? I'm only rank 10 now but I've played 2 face hunters, 1 secretdin and 2 face shamans last 5 games.
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Power creep is real.
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>>125297481
Good luck anon.
Also check this out.
http://hearthstone.metabomb.net/game-guides/gold-making-guide
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>>125297639
Warper. If you get board control early (which won't be hard since you're pally), you shouldn't have need for clear.
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>50% chance to waste 2 mana
>you basically win the game if you get lucky

This is interesting.
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>>125294506
Apparently Reno is going to appear in Legion.
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tfw with my cards I can only build rogue or hunter decks. Sigh.
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>Iron Sentinel
Why is this card allowed?
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>>125294506
When will Brann be incorporated into WoW kappa
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>>125297976
actually inferior to shredder and wont see play
Well done
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>>125298263
you mean boss right? cause the card is complete trash. until a new form of grinder/freeze mage uses it + duplicate makes it to tier one of tempostorm at least
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>>125298263
I assume you just got meme'd on by either double iron sensei or iron sensei annoyotron
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What is the worst card in arena
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>>125298305
>kappa

Please capitalize your twitch emotes properly so my global twitch emotes extension will display them.

Like so:

Kappa Keepo KappaPride KappaRoss KappaClaus
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>can't remember why Freeze mage makes me so mad
>decide to play it
>vs warrior
>druid
>warrior
>warrior
>druid
>druid
>druid
>get someone who isn't a warrior or druid
>no card draw in hand, mulligan, still no card draw or scientists
>draw 3 secrets in a row
>finally draw acolyte
>it gets silenced immediately

Oh right
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New meta?
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>>125295801
If you don't mind me playing devil's advocate: I think the main problem with hearthstone in particular, with laddering specifically, is just the sheer number of games one must play to reach legend. Sure you can play a really strong deck all the way there, but at what point does it become boring and tedious? How many games doing roughly the same sorts of moves and seeing the opponent do the same sorts of moves before you get bored and fatigued? 5 games? 10 games? 20 games? 50 games?

I agree that scrubs should get fucked though. Just making a point that there's a difference between "playing to win" and "playing to have fun" and pointing out the tediousness and repetitiveness of the climb to legend, the very definition of a "grind".

I even have the original article here: http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win
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>>125298735
minions with 1 health
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Intredasting
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Would you play it, /hsg/?
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>go through more than 2/3rds of my deck
>didn't draw a single Gadgetzan out of the 2 Gadgetzans I have in my deck

and this is why I hate this fucking game
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This would be cool if it cost like, 4 mana or something.
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>>125300328
>play turn one
>empty hand and full field all game
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It just dawned on me that the reason everyone is running Harrison again is shamans and their doomhammers

I don't play shaman so I was confused as hell to why nearly everybody I played today was running him, I even saw a few oozes

Is it time to play a non-weapon class?
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>>125300109
>go through 2/3rds of my deck
>didn't draw a single patron or death's bite

it the pain of playing combo decks. unfortunately, these kind of decks are the only interesting ones in the game
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yay x3 nigger priest in a row
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why did nobody tell me majordomo mage was this fun?
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>>125301071
>majordomo mage

Explain.

Does it involve Coldarra drakes?
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>>125301071
Because we are homos
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>>125297898

Yes, especially at 3+. Legend even more so.
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Is 15-10 where all the CW are on NA? Trying out entomb priest and priest in general for the first time and that's all I'm getting atm
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Should I ladder with Control Priest or Dragon Priest?
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Predictions please.
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>>125301406

I haven't seen a CW in tons of games at rank 5+. I see a Warrior and think "Maybe it's control" and it's either Patron or pure face with that cursed blade.
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Zap-o-Matic or Dust Devil in Overload Shaman?
Rank 9 currently
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>>125302063

Dust devil is awful.
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>lose
>lose
>lose
>fuck it i'll play renoloc
>on a 7 game win streak to rank 6
What the fuck? I thought renoloc being invincible was just a meme.
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>>125301989
Yeah once when I dipped to 12 I've only been seeing them and Warlocks with Jaraxxus so probably not the best environment to try out a control heavy priest
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>>125302407

Well you can see if it is a meme or not by win streaking your way to legend (or not).
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>>125302537
I thought winstreaks didn't happen past 5.
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>>125302578

Win streaking just means you keep winning. You don't get bonus stars for it, but if you don't drop a game you will seriously be legend in no time at all.
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>>125301697

you will die alone and nobody will miss you
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A week ago, everyone was laughing at Tempostorm for putting shaman at the top of tier 1. Now, they all did a 180, and sucking reynad's cock.
>https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/3wpluu/tempostorms_meta_snapshot_41_a_new_meta/
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I don't have Thalnos for Mill Rogue. Should I replace it with Kobold (or Azure Drake) or Loot Horder?
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>>125302989
>Reynad fag going to Reddit
Why am I not surprised?
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Anyone got a good list for Patron Warrior?
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>playing brawl
>thrill reaver burns half my deck
>literally 1 card left in my deck
>get the one thing that could win me the game

I think I'm ready for esports senpai
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Is it just me or is gobbo blastmage bullshit?
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Why is FoN the most broken card in the game?
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>opponent plays auchenai + circle of healing

>next turn PW:S

>gets to keep +2 health even when silenced

dafuq is up with this?
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>>125303616

Force of Nature isn't broken, Savage Roar is.
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>two smORC in the meta

Anything else that is new?
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>>125303461
It's insanely OP and is the only reason mechmage is a thing
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what's the class you absolutely refuse to play?

Just a few months ago I didn't even have Priest at level 10 while already being legend multiple times, going infinite in arena and having enough gold to spend on anything I want.
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>>125302991
honestly,it's more about the general utility of it than just one effect.
I'd say azure drake just because it's a great card, decent filler. But ive also been experimenting with a goblin auto barber, it seems to work pretty well.
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>>125303664
Max health and current health increase by 2.

You silence off the max health increase.
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>>125302991
You don't need Thalnos in Mill, bro.
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Anyone have a echo/giants list? seems like fun
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>>125304419
It's so perfect for Mill Rogue it's not even funny, do you think you don't need grommash for control Warrior either?
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>>125298076
huh i dont get it
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YOU NO T-T-TAKE S-S-SN-SNOWBALL
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>>125304726
50% chance the minion doesn't.
50% chance the minion does.
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You're walking home at night and hear "this is our town,scrub." behind you followed by a "Yeah, beat it!" You have two mana crystals in your pocket.

What do you do?
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>>125259257
>>125259337
>>125259467
>>125259630
>>125260265
>>125260640
I fucking wish
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This one's decent desu
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>>125305601
I summon Unstable Ghoul in the attack position
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>>125303664
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yNx6hDziC0
something relevant to your concerns
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>post yfw you finally realize Hearthstone takes almost no skill
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so i just started this game i am having some fun. But people are using a lot of legendary cards. I crafted a deck with starter cards and i am the rank 18 now. And people have too many strong cards i cant keep up with them. Is the game like this for a long time or will i get good cards soon too? How much do i have to grind games until i get decent decks?
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>>125305670

Newfriend here, Conceal seems REALLY good for 1 mana, what's the obvious drawback or counter I'm missing.
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>>125305883
They will make a no legendary mode I hope
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>>125305945
that would be nice i guess. And are the solo adventures worth buying for 700gold? i cant spend real money on this game.
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>>125306161
Yes
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>>125305941
It's just such a low impact card that it cheapens your deck, not to mention it's the worst topdeck in the world. It's fine in miracle rogue though
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>>125305601
Backstab the big guy, and Shiv the smaller guy.
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>>125305883
You're gonna have to wait a long time until your gold builds up

Or try to infinite arena if you think you're good enough
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>>125305941
they just go face like they probably were going to anyways.
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what streamers are good to watch for reno lock?

ive been playing a bunch but im stuck around rank 9/10 recently.
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post OC
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What the fuck were they thinking with the inspire mechanic? Invest 2 mana for some extra value?
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>Exploding your damage onto a priest when you don't have lethal
Why would you do this?
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>>125306960
to threaten lethal next turn. if he has to heal he just is prolonging his death by another turn.
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anyone else feel bad for him?
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>>125306952

That one card that can't attack unless inspired is FUCKING USELESS. Shittiest fucking thing the shredder can drop.
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>>125307138
>A whole expansion to make shredder weaker. BRAVO BLIZZARD
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>>125306952
arena expansion.
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Think it might see ladder play?
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>>125306942
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>>125307124
i watch his stream sometimes, the amount of thought he puts into every single turn is crazy, I also think that's his greatest weakness. He plays too safe.

He's a good example of why this game should never be taken seriously. He literally lost on 100 to 1 odds.
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>>125307124
why is he playing fucking Hearthstone? didn't he use to be a poker pro or whatever? why not play that, or Magic the Gathering, or any game where personal skill matters and not whatever boombots/shredders/peddlers/jugglers drop/hit?
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Newfag here, what site do you look up good budget decks from? I have 1000 dust and no idea what to do with it.
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>dreadsteed Paladin
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>>125308423
google hearthpwn
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>>125307949
my sides reached legend
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>>125307124
What is this from?
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>Aggro druid plays 4 one drops on T1
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>>125308421
In the past he has said he prefers HS for the fact that it is a more open community when it comes to discussion, as opposed to poke where you have to keep everything a secret from other players.
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>>125309417
Good thing you have arcane explosion right?
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>Kripp plays ranked
>first guy instant concedes
>second guy is a literal retard
>third guy is afk
>I play ranked
>first guy is secret palaldin with perfect curve
>second guy is aggro shaman who exodia's me on turn 5
>third guy is Renolock who ropes every turn until he heals for 24 health and bms every turn
JUST
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>>125307124
who is he?
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>>125310105
>I'll never tell
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Out skilled desu senpai.
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Is it just me or are a lot of totems cropped significantly?
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>>125310105
none of your business
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>>125310310
A lot of card art is cropped significantly. Look at the full art for Ironbeak Owl, for instance. Also, lots of art in HS were used in WoW TCG.
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Are druids just a meme class? It's my lowest level class, just barely 20 and I can't seem to get their playstyle. Outside of god draws and FN + SR, you're just ending up with wild growth and innervate dead draws 905 of the time. What a shit class, why would anyone play this stupid poker shit over warrior, mage or warloc for a lategame class?
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>>125311335

do everyone a favor and stick to playing secret pally and aggro shaman, you clearly don't know how to play this game
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>>125311335
Druids have been one of the strongest classes in the game consistently for a long time. The fact that you posted this clearly demonstrates why you're still rank 20.
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>>125305883
Every 3 days do dailies. Do tavern brawl once a week for the free pack. I would recommend using cash for getting adventures. You first decent deck will be a aggro/mid range hunter/pally/rogue do to low dust investment. It will take about 4 months to build a decent library of core commons and rares.
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>>125311712
I'm in love with raven idol boys. This card is a mill druid's dream.
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>>125303374
>1 thing
what about deathwing?
I mean, lethal that turn, yeah that's one of your only options, and deathwing wouldn't be a sure win, but...

you know what I'm just going to let you have your moment
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>>125301192
Dog did it, don't remember the entire deck list but it was that 6/6 dragon that lets you use your power as much as you want

Plus majordomo

Plus Lady of the Lake or whatever the fuck, hero power costs 1

You shit out 8 random damage a bunch of times

Also has emperor for cheaper stuff
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>>125305883
Other than what this anon >>125312120 says,
I'll tell you the same hting I tell other new players. But don't take it the wrong way.
Legendaries don't win many games. Not on their own at least. The best ones are very situational, and when you get rekt by them, it's simply because they were used at the best (or a good) time.

Anyhow, don't worry about Legendaries. Just remember why, and more importantly 'when', they hammered you. As that will help you make the best use of them.

>Tips
Google 'hidden quests hearthstone'. You'll find there's a shitload of gold to be earned here.

Play ranked if you want. You won't lose out by constantly losing. You'll learn what decks people are playing to climb, and (Through here and the internet) how to deal with those decks.

If you're shit at arena (like I am) then buy packs with your gold. There's no shame in it. I've only bought the adventures, I haven't paid for a single pack with money and have quite a substantial collection. All from playing my dailies (and wins) and getting packs with the gold.
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>>125300328
It'd still be mad broken. It'd essentially be a better version of Astral Communion.
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>>125312247
had a combo druid draw tree of life from that.

Did 60 damage to him with this shit budget mage deck I randomly created.
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>>125312247

Forget Mill Druid, it's just a fucking rock solid card for Druids period.

Never pick minion unless you absolutely positively have to (like if you were forced to Raven Idol a buff spell earlier and you need something to drop it on, stat), always pick spell. Even if you need a minion several druid spells can produce minions (and I mean permanent minions, the druid spells are just leaps and bounds stronger than the possibly of getting booby-prized with shitty generics or beast-synergy cards.
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>>125309997
advice: be kripp :)
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>>125311712
>The fact that you posted this clearly demonstrates why you're still rank 20.
I'm not legend or anything but I'm floating around 10 atm and have made 5 before. I just don't see why you would play druid right now. I can't remember the last time I lost to one outside of fon sr combo either. It's a pretty pathetic class overall.
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>>125309997
Big name streamers have their matchups rigged most of the time.
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>>125305408
dont what?
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>>125310238
Well he gots a 6/6 with taunt for free so not really rekt per se
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>>125303374
>Draw Frost Nova
>Crowd Favorite into Kirin Tor Mage
>Drop Blood Knight next turn making Crowd Favorite a 6/6
>Win with an overflow of one damage thanks to ping.
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>>125313113
Yeah I won my last game thanks to it. Got a naturalize to remove a turn 3 boom that was innervated out and tree of life to win the fatigue battle. It's got a permenate place in my deck forever. Getting a raven idol from it is even better. It provides its own mulligans for a shitty discover round.

>>125313339
He had 4 cards left in his deck and all his board clear spells in hand. I removed the taunt with a naturalize and the game didn't last much longer.
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i hate playing arena, but theres no better way to farm, anyone have experience playing shaman in arena?
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>>125312974

>Legendaries don't win many games. Not on their own at least.

Bullshit.

>Dr. Boom exists
>Sylvannas exists
>Ysera is a core card in most Dragon decks

I only started playing a few months ago, but I can tell you for sure that there are quite a few shit-tier legendaries (lol Millhouse Manastorm), but many of them can be considered "core". After crafting Dr. Boom and opening a Sylvannas and putting both into my Druid Ramp deck, my win percentage went from some 53% across 80 games with it to 59% currently across 150 games. Tons of games are won by forcing the enemy player to tiptoe around a Sylvannas or just getting insane value off of Dr. Boom, and while I don't own a Dragon Priest deck I can tell you that Dragon Priest would definitely be leaps and bounds worse without it, probably "unplayable in ranked" tier.

Not every legend is blowout tier, but saying "don't worry about legendaries" is just lying to yourself and doing you a disservice. The key is to do your research and learn what legendaries are must-haves and core, and not to get all excited about some dumb Avianna combo deck and blow all your dust out on her.
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>>125313607

Real question. The deck is Ramp druid: I'm pretty sure it's correct to always TRY and mulligan it out of your hand in search of ramp or a real minion/spell, right?

While it's possible that I mulligan out of it into an unplayable card, the odds of that are lower than mulliganing into gas that doesn't need to be tutored up first. Currently I treat it kind of weirdly: I never want to intentionally keep it in my hand, but on the other hand if I end up hard mulliganing into both of them I'm not overly unhappy.

Also, what do you think of the people who say to only play a single Darnassas Aspirant?
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im one card in after choosing earth elemental, what should i pick next?
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>>125314229

Shit, those are all good. I'd go with Frostwolf for reliability, though. You'll pretty much never feel bad with it due to your hero power, while Spellbreaker can sometimes be "stuck" in your hand without a good target and you might not draft any buffs for Dragonkin Sorcerer.
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No one on /mu/ will do it, could I have some recs?
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>>125314465
also guess what class i play so i can make it related
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Easiest game of my life
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So is the trick to heroic Rafaam Unleashed getting lucky on your discover artifact?
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>>125314020
In mill I actually mulligan it out of my hand, unless I have exceptional removal already in hand, since the goal of the deck is survival.

I would imagine you absolutely would want to play the same way in ramp. Mulligan it if your hand is shit, keep it other wise. Obviously those early game wild growths and aspriants are the core of the deck. I think it would be foolish to keep raven idol in favor of the cards your deck is built around.

However if you start with some ramp, keeping the card can easily help you control the early game board, or boost the ramp even further. The flexability it can provide is the reason it should be in the deck or hand, not as something you relay on.
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>>125313676
Those you mentioned are good on their own and create awkward situations for the opponent, sure. But they don't win games on their own. Otherwise there'd be full legendary decks or close to it. Also, there's good decks that run only a few or no legendaries.

The "do't worry about legendaries" comment wasn't meant to tell him that they're shit etc. Just not to be too concerned with not having them himself, and to focus more on learning the game and expanding his collection. Because skill trumps legendaries every time.
EVERY time
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>>125314465
radio kappa
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>>125315087
radiohead?
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>>125314773
>skill trumps legendaries every time
>skill
>Hearthstone
I think you have this game mistaken with another anon. VALUE wins games in hearthstone, above all else. Skill in hearthstone is merely counting to 30 and trading properly, but value is the biggest thing you can incorporate to increase the consistency of your deck. The right legendaries bring levels of value to a deck that no other card can. Sure some are shit, but those key ones are guarenteed to increase your win rate just by existing. Dr boom, tirion, sylvannas, ysera... etc, all bring very unique abilities and value to decks they get played in that absolutely wins games for the person playing it. Sure it might not be every game, but it's significant enough to warrent the need for them.

If you really don't see that, just look at Reno and brann. Two cards that have completely altered the meta more than anything else in the xpac.
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>>125315087
>implying podcasts are worth anything
>implying i would waste my time with hearing video game strategies instead of deepening my understanding of art and music
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Nerf freezing trap pls
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>>125314336
shit thx man. already screwed up tho and chose dragonkin
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>>125314651
Nope. You don't even need the artifacts. Just steal/death all his big minions as priest and go to town.
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is card draw a factor in arena?
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>>125315770
Just play around it :^)
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>>125316401
>is card draw a factor in arena?
yes
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Card Name: Smorc the Orc
Card Text: Always attacks the enemy hero.
Redirects like ogres whenever attacking something that isn't face, bypassing taunts. 4-6 cost. Legendary. Above average attack. Average health.
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>like Al'Akir, but neutral and faster
The generator didn't lie, this is insane indeed.
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>>125293880
rdu winning because of heavy rng, all the gypsies on reddit to defend their leader
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>>125316854
(Probably 4 cost so it can actually fit into aggro decks, otherwise it's useless to decks the joke is actually about)
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Now that's an interesting silly mechanic. The card costs (3) to play from hand, but is still a 4-drop, so it can appear from Sky Golem or a Recombobulator on other 4-drop.
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>>125317615
>neutral misha, the best companion

epic, simply epic
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>>125317790
I didn't say it was balanced, did I?
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>>125317615
Dies to shredder.
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>>125317902
so does everything
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>>125317902
shredder fucking sucks you idiot it dies to pit snake
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>>125318214
>mfw Ysera dies to Pit Snake
Literally trash
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Nat Pagle viable now?
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>>125318214
No it doesn't. Shredder spawns a minion, pit snake is dead. Shredder is eternal.
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>>125318507
whaddafuck
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>feign death
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>tfw can't stop winning with Patron Warrior
Thank fuck these priests never seem to draw their lightbombs and circles
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>>125319051
>Destroy their deck, and since they don't have a deck the first fatigue card they will draw will deal 10 damage to them due to eff
I'd use it
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>>125319374
>op as fuck card
>i'd use it
wow nice!
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>>125319503
Who shat in your cornflakes this morning you sad excuse for a human being?
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You know how the mana cost modifiers changed what minion you got in that brawl with the "Minion for mana cost". Does that work regularly?

For instance, if you have a Mercenary out and play a Shredder for 7, does the Shredder drop a 5 drop when killed?
Also, with a Mercenary plus any minion played, does Effigy give you the higher cost minion?
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I put it on "insane."
But to be honest this isn't that crazy and I could see Blizzard putting this in.
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>manage to build full board full of powerful minions
>equality into consecration
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>>125319803
Sane and insane make equally little sense on average.
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>tfw just got rank 4 for the first time
>using half midrange shaman half face shaman

the funny thing is that I think my win % is actually better with midrange, aggro is just so much faster for the purpose of grinding
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>>125319979
>overextending into a board clear
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>>125320081
>playing around aoe every turn
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>>125320025
nobody cares
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>tfw fell for the aggro shaman meme

you always feel like it's a good deck, right up until they drop their t6 loatheb
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i lav video games
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>>125320335
fair enough

I'm just excited because I've always stalled at rank 5
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>>125320316
Not him, but I do this. I've gotten used to the fact that if I overextend, the opponent has an aoe clear. Happens every time
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>>125320646
sometimes it makes sense, but sometimes you have to play to win

it's a difficult choice
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>>125320695
Sometimes you have no choice but to bet on RNG.

I tried to rush a Warrior as a Renolock (I didn't want a 20 minute game into fatigue) and would have won the game on turn 7 if his Sylvanas didn't steal my Boom, despite having three other minions on the board.

Shit happens, man.
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doin meh in arena with shaman, first lost to a rogue then won to a paladin and now druid. one more loss left
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Naxx > LoE > BRM

Right? In terms of the powerlevel of the cards.
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>>125321040
I'd say Naxx = BRM > LoE.

Naxx has a shitload of staples, but BRM is the core of several archetypes played now. LoE shook it up a bit, but that's it.
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how did i get so far with such a pile of shit
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Will this make the Justicar Trueheart Warlock ability not shit:

>Soul Tap (2) Mana: Gain a copy of a random card in your deck

This way, you don't take damage from tapping and instead of drawing cards, you now gain copies of them (like Thoughtsteal, but with your own deck)
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>>125321474
I was surprised she doesn't turn it into Draw 2 Cards, since all the others straight up doubled the benefit
But maybe that'd be a bit obscene
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>>125321474

Maybe make the warlock heal 2 as well
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Dragon priest needs to be deleted.
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>Priest will never be allowed to destroy your deck a few cards at a time
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>>125321473
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>>125321190
BRM is pretty shit tb-h rafam
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>>125313269
from a developer stand point this is doable. I have suspected that p2w is actually rigged. Whenever I buy entrance to arena with cash I get the best cards/combo ever.
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>>125321875
>Priest will never have a better "Curse" effect that also discards cards
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>>125319768
>no
>yes, provided the mercenary is still alive when the secret is triggered
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>>125321964
Like does anyone doubt blizz at this point that they may be tipping the scales in favor of wallet suiciders
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>>125321875
I got you, amigo.
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>>125321964
How do we even know how the random in this game works.

True random on computers is impossible, who knows if it's not flawed somehow.
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>>125322047

Every single game with microtransactions that has an 'RNG factor' is rigged

Even the most naive fool has to know this
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>>125321762
Why, they're the most honest deck in the game. They literally have no burst and what you see on their board is what you get.
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>>125322005
>There will never be a Priest buff that lets them discard your cards with each attack
>On that note, they will never expand on creature types

>>125322101
I appreciate it, but I think it's safe to say Blizzard just hates Priests, and would never implement such a card.
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>>125322101
Why not "your opponent discards a random card"?
Occam's razor, mate, no need to make up a different name for an exisiting functionality.
Also it should be 3 mana
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>>125322101
That's fucking broken what the fuck
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>>125322185
>True random on computers is impossible
Yes it is, you just need to put shot noise to use somehow.
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>>125322213
Muh undercosted minions
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>>125322362
Only if it discards core cards like Tirion or Justicar.

Annoying != Broken

It would be good in Fatigue Priest. Steal your shit via Cabal, Thoughtsteal, Shadowmadness, Entomb and destroy the rest
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>>125322261
>Shadowform used to be permanent +1 Spell Damage that lasted as long as you never cast a heal spell
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>>125322472
That seems great, honestly.

So much potential for Priests cards yet we keep getting fun but gimmicky cards like Confuse
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>tfw no hs gf
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just got balvor fordragon should i disenchant it?
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>>125322552

It's terrible

She gets jealous because she's worse at the game than I am, and when i try to help she gets mad because 'she doesn't need any help'
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>>125322659
doesn't matter, i'm still jelly
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GEE IF ONLY I RAN A CONSECRATE IN MY DECK TO GET RID OF ALL THESE TWO HEALTH MINIONS MAYBE I SHOULD RUN TWO FOR MORE CONSISTENCY
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who else unsubbed from hearthstone facebook page because of the winter veil "sale" ads here
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>>125322468
Not him but it's broken af
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>>125322795
having facebook in the first place, normies get out
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>>125322795

>using facebook
>no adblock

are you from the past?
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>>125322659
Sounds like she's pretty young, bro (no offence meant).

Out of interest, how old is she?
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>>125322795
>facebook

you cant bait me punk bitch
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>>125304025
Warrior and Hunter for me
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>>125322851

older than me, im closer to 30 than i am to 20

ive only been playing for a month now, she got me into the game and she has been playing since the start

she never got to rank 14, i got my shit tier midrange mage deck to 11 last season so i dunno

just butthurt maybe
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>>125322550
It's weird.
Ben Brode says "it's a crazy effect" when it's a card that copies your opponent's hero power.
While in the WoW:TCG this would be a "crazy effect".
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>>125294917
>Post when you harvest the suffering of others.

>Might of the non-artificial
>Uncivilized Angry Sound
>Hm. Well played.
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Are there any good 1 drops for Paladin?
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I think I read somewhere that you can reroll 40 gold quests into 60 gold ones? Is this possible and if so, how?
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>>125323180
go to the quest log and press the x button where it lists the 40g quest then hope you get a 60g replacement
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>kripp plays 30 legendaries deck to 60% winrate
>switches to reno hunter
>can't win a single game
>insists the deck isn't bad

I don't understand this meme
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>>125302989
Don't forget to tech out gorehowl when playing as demon handlock against control
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I've disenchanted Velen twice.
I crafted Saraad and Malygos.
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>>125323525

Disenchanted my golden Velen

Crafted Dr Balanced
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>>125323519
>read notes about control shaman
>summates to saying the deck is bad but sometimes you get to do some sick plays with earth ele/ancestral spirit/reincarnate/KT
>the decklist they feature has none of those cards
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Fuck, new miracle is actually really strong. Tougher to beat than a standard oil rogue for sure.

Also, Tomb Pillager is a card with built in BM from it's summoning cry. I can already see that becoming really aggravating.
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Would it see play.
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>>125323757
what the fuck, man
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>>125323757
>Every turn
>guaranteed 24 HP token on board
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>put tons of heal and anti-aggro shit into my deck
>don't draw a single fucking heal against an aggro shitter who's trying to smash through my taunts and armor in several turns

I hate this fucking game so much
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Fuck off OC fags
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>>125323757
Druid could use some more hard ro remove minions that stick on the board :^)
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>>125324184
they are rngoc fags, which are okay
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>try to make a good deck with my basic cards through research, practice, trial and error, mix and matching
>take my deck into another game
>the guy I'm facing has no coherent build or strategy
>plays 4 legendaries before we even get to 10 mana
>golden monkey
>even though I've been keeping the board level the whole game and have him on 10hp to my 30 he still wins because he spent money
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>>125324324
>Losing to golden monkey
>Losing to someone throwing away all their tempo cards and removal spells to just put big bodies in their deck
>Whining about legendaries when Trump got to < rank 5 with a free too play priest deck
>Blaming your opponents deck for your lost instead of the subpar plays you no doubt made
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>>125324324
I've found monkey decks to be easily beatable, the main thing of note is that their only immediate removal is death wing
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>>125324440
>free too play priest deck
This is only technically true
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I honestly think this is the worst general thread in all of /vg/.
Almost every post is a shitpost. It's almost impressive.
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What can be done to fix Hearthstone /hsg/?
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>this image
>this name
>this everything
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>Rank 17 (barely)
>Everyone has legendaries, gold legends, dr. boom, etc.
>I have naxx and 1 legendary

am I missing out on some secret or something?
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>>125323018
Yea, probably just one of those type of people who like to be independant so hard that they can sometimes hurt their progress (generally) by not accepting help.
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>>125324586
You forgot "that die at the end of the turn" :^)
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>Priest or Warlock dominance
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>tfw you actually manage to draft dragons
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>B-But aggro requires thought and skillful decision making!
LOL
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>>125324856
midrange is generally considered the least skillful archetype
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Is it better to run 2 Belchers and a Healbot, or 2 Healbots and a Belcher?
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>>125325037
Deathrattle is always OP
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>be mediocre arena player
>decided to give "Onepunchman" a chance
>pretty decent
>opening ost got stuck in head, si I had to download it
>put it on repeat during next arena run
>easy 10 wins

So the rumors that Anime makes you better in hs are true.
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>>125325037
Depends.
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>>125324609
You seem to miss the most op card in game. Credit card.
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I feel like this battlecry is already the case in hearthstone though.
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I miss the tavern-keeper telling me to warm my frozen bootes by tha harthe
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>>125295498
It would be interesting if you could do a raid fight where you equip the boss with various armor you needed to blacksmith, tailor, leatherwork, the rings and whole nine. The main tank has to wear it into the fight or Rafaam becomes too powerful.

Heroic is you can't use the armor.

Mythic is a huge multiplier based on the armor the MT uses so it is basically always hard no matter how advanced your gear gets.
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>>125312690
>assuming he has death wing in his deck
wow you're a smart one aren't you
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Perhaps noob question, why nobody runs deathwing in his deck. It clears board, puts great body, and in general it can be lifesaver.
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>>125325517
because every deck has a card to deal with it, cept aggro, but if they havent won by turn 10 then they arent going to win anyways
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>>125325517
discard hand clause puts you at a makes you lose against other control decks and throws away your biggest advantage over aggro
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>>125322101
thats broken as fuck, compare it to loot hoarder which is a 2/1 for 2.
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Stuffed chicken OP.
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>>125325517
Pretty much every deck can deal with him in one way or another. The only deck that runs it is fatigue warrior to cement their win when you are out of options.
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>>125325372
chuckled
>>
Inspire could have been cooler if the minion lost -1/-1 per inspire but a successful inspire gave it immune to spells. I know its kind of a silly idea though. Just my problem with it was always it is a virtual +2mana tax because anything can die in one turn in this game, at least help it be preserved a few turns so interesting/crazy combos can be invented with inspire cards.
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>>125324552
On what grounds? That time is money?
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>>125325517
it doesnt clear the board tho
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Wonder why something like this isn't in the game.
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>>125319592
cringe
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>>125295297
Play Eloise
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>>125325789
it is?
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>>125325791
You sure showed him 2 hours later
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>>125324734
What are you implying
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>>125325898
Mana Wyrm only gains attack, and is an early game card.
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I'm liking these new cards, lads.
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How do we fix the mukla/murloc paladin cancer thats ruining arena? From game 3 onward its all I face
If I dont draft removal im fucked after 5 wins
>>
Which minions generally get priority in case of ambiguity? Like Vanish on full board with 9 cards in hand or board clear with Redemption active? Is it always those played first?
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RNG really outdid itself on this one.
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>>125325975
questing adventurer you silly gook
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>>125326015
Put a casual anyfin can happen into your own deck. Surprise the motherfucker.
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>>125326015
>still playing ARNGna now that constructed has ranked rewards
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>>125326067
site name please
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>>125326109
>ranked rewards
WHAT? I can win packs now?
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>>125326143
No, you get golden cards that are worth more than the 40 dust you were going to get from the pack
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>>125326143
Yeah man
You get 10 gold for every 3 ranked wins
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>>125326142
It's posted higher up in the thread.
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>>125326191
Then why bother? Im just continously playing arena for muh golden shaman deck
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>>125326248

>ranked wins
>>
>been struggling back and forth at rank 11
>download deck tracker
>instant win streak to rank 9 and counting

So this is the power of unfair advantage.
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>>125326285
>golden shaman

You need 500 Ranked wins to unlock the golden portrait anon
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>>125326340
I know, I did that months ago
started playing from early closed beta and never left shaman
autism
>>
>tech in Wild Pyromancer to deal with aggro
>encounter a mage with Grim Patrons, the perfect Pyromancer counter, in the very next game, despite having seen 0 Grim Patrons in about a month

You know Blizzard, you could be a little bit less obvious...
>>
So how do you spend your gold, /hsg/? I thought that it was most cost-efficient to spend it on arena runs, but maybe that was just a meme. Or I suck dick in arena.
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>>125326339
What is deck-tracker
>>
>>125326563
It's cost effective to spend on arena and gain packs that way, yes.
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>>125326563
Adventure wings > arenas > packs
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>>125326563
Arena got too frustrating to me
I just finished buying the League with gold I saved up (resolved to never put a dime into this game) and will now return to spending on vanilla packs for a bunch of cards I still need here and there, while saving to craft a couple of Mind-Changers
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>>125326636
I can never bring myself to save up 700 gold for 1 fucking part
>>
>Warrior plays Loot Hoarder
>play like he's on Patron
>he's Control
>lose
>Warrior plays Shield Slam
>play like he's Control
>he's Patron
>lose
Have people forgot how to netdeck or something?
>>
>first week of season climb to rank 7
>tomb pillager comes out, try different miracle decks
>rank 16 now
i got tricked this shit sucks
>>
>mage roping every turn in arena
frick
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>>125326758
new miracle rogue struggles against agro and cw
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>>125326701
>lose to weird decks
>wow why don't they start netdecking so i can predict everything?
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>>125325952
That I play dragon priest and enjoy dragon girls, silly anon.
>>
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>>125326884
Perfectly balanced
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>>125326815
If you couldn't tell he was joking you may be autistic
>OPM
Ok going to go with autistic then
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>>125326884
MtG is weird like that.
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>>125326959
You're the one crying over losing to decks you don't know
>>
post your hearthstone jam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDe-90fn_8E
>>
>>125326576

A software that provides you with an in-game overlay giving you useful information about your current match. Try it yourself, link's in the op
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>tfw you are the golden cancer of arena
>>
>zalae wants 10 bux for his "deck doctor" skills
Why would I pay nobody 10$ for putting dr boom in my deck.
>>
>>125327054
>You're the one crying
>he was joking
Read dummy
>>
>trying to do 5 win brawl quests
>my opponent RNGs into an insane deck 4 games in a row

th-thanks blizz

>druid opponent has 2 avianas, gets to play aviana innervate nozdormu + another mid sized minion
>also has ancient of lore
>I get astral communion and topdeck nothing but 1s and 2s lategame
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>>125327251

Worst I had was a coined turn 2 Alarm bot, turned into Illidan, then Troggzor, then Boom

then I conceded
>>
>>
>>125327480
All RNG cards with Mukla in their name are the best.
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one shot heroic sentinel, id add one more dread steed if you have it
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Leaked new hero power?
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>>125327780
and maybe replace hellfire and demonwrath with corruptions
>>
>tfw 555 gold
>endlessly rerolling 40g quests into other 40g quests
>I get a fucking watch and learn every four days but only when I'm hoarding gold

I just want the last wing. Jesus.
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SECRET PALADIN IS DEAD
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>>125327970
>arena can give gold in multiples of 5
>everything is priced in multiples of 10
>that 5 will never be spent
FUCK
>>
So, has anyone heard anything about a new Hearthstone commercial coming out this week?
>>
>>125328212
>Giant Goblin overlooks catapults
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>>125328312
It'll round to 10 with the NEXT 5, fool
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>>125328461
I'd let that card climb to me anytime tbqh.
>>
>reno is a meme
>reno is just a fad guys
>the meta will settle and we won't see him anymore!
>renolock is one of the strongest decks out there? I-it's just fotm anyway! Yeah...

>looks like reno is here to stay, just like we've always said!

Sasuga hsg
>>
>go first
>lose
Loving this meme.
>>
>>125328567
>hsg has a unified opinion on anything
>>
>>125323519
what app isthat?
>>
>>125328567
feel when shitpost both opinions so then I can make another shitpost saying /hsg/ was wrong
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>>125328567
>people think that miracle rogue is just a meme
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>>
It's Time

What class should I get next?
>>
Why does midrange hunters always manage to curve out perfectly?
>>
>>125328831
rogue
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last one and holy shit it is a doozy
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>the boombots both hit for 4
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>>125328954
>>
>>125328991
>your shredder brings out doomsayer
>>
Still not able to win a single game.
Still no idea what I'm doing wrong.
No matter which deck I'm pick, my opponents are just playing solitaire without me being able to do anything.
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>>125328991
>You play a malygos Druid too have fun
>4 tempo mages in a row
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man I am so cool
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>>125329081
Are you a new player?
Are you a free to play player? (no packs bought)
Are you playing ranked at high ranks? Or just casual?
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>>125328991
>mctech steals your best minion
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>>125329172
f2p player but I've been grinding for over a year. I've got a full Handlock, Control Priest, Midrange Paladin and Ramp Druid. Got to Rank 11 in the first 3 days of the month or so and I'm now back to 19.
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>>125329318
Try something like mech mage and practice your mulligan
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>>125329189
I am pretty sure the text reads
"Battlecry: if your opponent has 4 or more minions, take control of one at random. Unless they have Dr. Boom then take that one instead"
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>>125329189
>mctech just memed my muklas champ in arena and lost me the game
it was all safe behind my earth elemental and buffed twilight guardian too ;_;
rip 7-3
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>>125329479
7-3 is free pack
>>
>>125329567
When I got into closed beta first thing I did was the free arena run because I saw twitch streamers do it all the time and it seemed fun. Went 11-3, never been able to beat that since
7 wins isnt difficult to get to, i want more more MORE
>>
>Tired of bad RNG and bad curves
>Makes midrange pala with best curve in the game
>gets out curved by 3 renodecks in a row

Just fuck my shit up
>>
>rank 5 gatekeeper

>he opens with cleric into coin blademaster circle of healing

It's fine. I didn't want a golden epic anyway.
>>
>>125329668
>7 wins isnt difficult to get to
I must suck then.
>>
>>125329668
> 11-3 in closed beta
> max wins was 9 back then
>>
What did I win?
>>
>>125329842
toshley :^)
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>brawl just ended and couldn't grind out that last win
JUST
>>
Why is hearthstone such a demanding game? I have a gtx 980 ti and i5-6600k and 8gb ddr 4 and I still can't keep a consistent 144 fps.
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>>125329754
>having problems with priests
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>>125329842
Ahhh the thrill of the hunt!
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>>125329834
it took another 1.5 month after the 9>12 win patch for closed beta to end
hownewru fagboy
>>
Simply Eric.
>>
>>125329909
why do they even put a downtime in?
>>
blizzard pls
>>
>>125329973


Oh shit anon! You win!
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>>125330101
you dont tho
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>>125330153
kek
>>
>>125330153
It's actually one of the few legendaries I didn't have, so I'll take it

Plus I've never been more ready for the beast meta
>>
>>125330101
Holy shit it's time to play some lottery or something
>>
>>125330568
nah, you used up all your luck on that guess.
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>play against pirate rogue
>hero power, THEN Buccaneer, THEN Blade Flurry, THEN One-Eyed Cheat
>That was a mistake, regards: pally
>he wins anyway because LOL RAGNAROS past my 5 minions
>>
>>125293880
What decks are hungry dragon good in? Why doesn't anyone ever use it?
>>
>>125330848

No one uses it because it is a bad card. It's completely awful against aggressive decks and even against slower decks, you are better off playing a 4 drop that doesn't steal tempo from yourself.
>>
Didn't know this brawl allowed for multiple legendaries.
>>
>>125330848
It summons a minion for your opponent so if your opponent has removal you're fucked

Meanwhile Shredder gives YOU a free minion and if they remove shredder you still have a minion on the board
>>
>>125330848
It's great in arena because
>dragon synergy
>5/6 for 4 mana
>arena gives literally 0 removal unless you are lucky/playing mage
>>
>arena
>severely behind on card advantage but ahead on tempo
>oh shit, boardwiped
>topdeck gorillabot
>gorillabot discovers... two shit mechs and another gorillabot
>take gorillabot
>play second gorillabot
>discover two shit mechs and yet another gorillabot
>take gorillabot
>his turn, he runs some random dorks out of varying sizes
>my turn
>play third gorillabot
>discover fourth gorillabot
>play fourth gorillabot
>discover mimiron's head
>end up closing the game with meme voltron

this fucking game I swear
>>
>>125331194

I am now imagining those gorillas assembling into one gigantic Mecha King Kong.

Why doesn't this shit ever happen to me.
>>
>>125330704
Oh fuck you, I need that luck to find a job, gf and win some cash. Give it back.

>>125330848
Arena decks at best.
>>
What the fuck is priests win condition, every game goes to fatigue and then they just run out of spells and lose
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>>125331194
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>>125331712

Ysera, usually. The memelords run Paletress as well but I dusted it because it's inconsistent as all fuck.
>>
>>125331712

I know at least one flavor of Priest Entombs your win condition and draws it to kill you with it.
>>
>>125331712
The win condition is 'Remove all your shit while filling the board with their own and keeping it alive'
If you can kill all their shit and/or force them to give it up to kill yours despite all their removal spells, then you win
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>playing basic deck priest
>go against reno hunter
>beat him so hard he plug pulls before the game is over
>>
>>125331959
Did you heal her?
>>
>>125331909
dude
this would be like
i would quit hs if this happened to me

thankfully i play patron so by the time they entomb a threat i have grommash ready for lethal anyways
>>
>tfw lost from rank 8 to rank 11 with 2 stars

someone kill me
>>
>>125332756
Meh, I'd just be happy to hit 15 and bump the quality of my chest up
>>
>>125332756
>>125332834

Fucking hell

And I thought I was bad
>>
>>125332834
I've been getting rank 15 every season with pretty much a basic deck + Naxx.
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>>125331909
kek
>>
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>>125332940
I don't play seriously
All-Priest deck for fun
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>>125331194
This story is bananas
>>
>Put in two lay on hands for cards draw
>Always at 30 health
Should buff me above 30 desu
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>>125333158
Why dont you play divine favor instead?
3 mana draw your entire deck
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>Playing Dragon Priest for the first time after Control Priest
>>
>>125333210

Divine favor is anti control

Loh is anti aggro / midrange

Completely different purpose
>>
>Pint size summoner out of shredder for the ramp druid
I know it isn't rng it does it on purpose doesn't it
>>
So I made a renolock deck, but since I have no Jaraxxus, I'm running Arcane Golem + power overwhelming + faceless as my win condition. The only deck I never win against is priest, which crushes me every time and makes me want to play face shaman. How do I git gud when my Thaddius gets entombed?
>>
>>125333338

>renolock plays shredder
>kill it with my last play for my turn to decrease incoming damage
>mfw a dust devil pops out
>mfw he buffs it with Power Overwhelming and kills me
>>
Any NAfriends up early?

MisfitToy#1229
>>
>>125333515
Dust devil is 1 mana
>>
High tier
>Exact lethal
>Rng Lethal

Mid tier
>On board lethal
>Topdeck Lethal

Low tier
>Lethal from hand
>Bm lethal
>>
>>125333539

Wait, no, I'm mixing up my stories. I played Hungry Dragon.

... I've been trying to climb the ranked ladder too long, it's time for bed.
>>
>>125333516
forgot image kek
>>
>paladin with murloc knights and as many other inspires as the game has
>rank 19

Why is this allowed
>>
>>125333467
Just realised I posted a tautological sentence.
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>tfw playing a game without ever touching the end turn button
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>>125333467
you shoot yourself in the fucking head

reno lock is gay as fuck family
>>
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i have 3200 dust hsg
golden blingtron, golden reno, golden elise, or golden paletress? (I already have them all non-golden as well as golden sneed's)
>>
>>125333642
>Many other Inspires
>Inspire
You're right, he should be at rank 25
>>
>>125333680
You sick fuck
>>
>>125333946
Golden Blingtron
>>
>>125333946
Paletress for maximum golden legendary value
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>Going second in a mirror match
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>>125333946
elise
>>125334179
>maximum golden ledendary value
elise literally turns your entire deck into golden legendaries
>>
>>125333918
Back to secrets and face it is then
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What decks are best at oneshoting your opponent?
>>
Should I play renolock or malylock?
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High skill game
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>>125334387
worgen and freeze mage
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>>125333646
speak english, doc
we ain't scientists
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>>125333467

You craft Jaraxxus.
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Is Rank 9 too early to switch to Freeze Mage/Renolock? Or should I wait until reaching 5?
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>>125333467
post dick
>>
>>125333596
I got you senpai
>>
>>125334387
Malylock, Freeze mage, Miracle Rogue, etc.
>>
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What mage deck can i play if i dont have Antonidas and all the giants?
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>>125334929
a lot of tempo mage lists are dropping toni for boom recently
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>>125334423

you want to see true skill, senpai?
>>
anyone watching that china tournament?

.tv/hscn

dat quadruple iron juggernaut
>>
>>125334929
Memewaker tempo
>>
Is the new adventure cards worth it?
>>
>>125335239
>Is the new adventure cards worth it?
>>
>>125334929
Mech or Tempo without Antonidas, or Grinder
>>
>>125335083
Kek
>>
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CAN ANYFIN CAN HAPPEN GET NERFED ALREADY.
>>
>>125335239
yes
>>
europe gamers add me
i wanna see you win

Jur#2686
>>
>usually play freeze mage
>decide to make tempo mage
>win off of unstabled kraken
>win off of unstabled edwin
>win off of a good antonio play
This decks the best just being mage is pretty good but the esportals are 10/10
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>>125335556
>usually play freeze mage
>>
>>125335597
Sorry, lemme get back on secret pally
>>
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>>125335537
I just started drafting a new arena deck and this happen, go for 2nd equality (for concecrations?
No card draw yet tho
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Okay , which cardback do you guys use most?
Ragnaros for me
>>
>>125335786
Equality
>>
>>125335786
jeeves is bad , since you have arleady two consecrations i think equality would be best
>>
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questing or consort (since I have nefarian)?
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>>125336013
Consort easily.
>>
>>125336013
Consort.
>>
>>125336013
Consort, no contest. Even as only a 5/5 it is decent.
>>
>>125335512
What, you have trouble defeating a Paladin in 9 turns when his deck is stuffed with nothing but Murlocs?
>>
>>125335512
lelouch fuck off
>>
>>125336425
>How do you have trouble dealing with 20 damage charge minions in one turn.
epic.
>>
>warrior double armor smith death lord
Haha Epic
>>
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>>125335512

but anon, didnt you hear, anyfyn can happen is bad!
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>>125336791

eq into consac into Tirion and Ysera happy feast of winterveil, champion.
>>
Just got 3 murloc knights, a kodorider and a lot of decent early drops to set board control

12 wins inc?
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>>125336950

sorry, meant to quote >>125336773
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have you done your job in cleansing the ladder of ebola?
>>
>>125337268
>Renolock
;^j
>>
>>125325439
it's brawl, the decks are randomized you fucking spaz
>>
How the fuck do you beat Renolock?
>>
>>125337268
Oh you mean you're gonna kill yourself after winning that game? Good job anon
>>
>>125337469

mid range hunter, control priest
>>
>>125337313
>>125337509
mad aggroshitters rofl
>>
I got enough dust to craft a legendary

Have to choose between these: Malygos, Baron Geddon or Gormok

Halp
>>
Can you guys recommend me some F2P decks?
I only have the first wing of Naxxramas
>>
>>125337870
1. Barron
2. Maly
...
9000. Gormok
>>
>>125337870
none
sit on it
>>
>>125337872
Try old versions of zoo
>>
>>125337870
Maly is fucking broken.


>Gormok
>ever.
>>
Do we have a refined Miracle list yet
>>
Is Steamwheedle Sniper any good? the effect looks great for midrange but idk
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>>125337927
>>125337979

Gormok is pretty good on zoo. I occasionally play it too
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>>125337991
it involves malygod now
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>>125337872
Old versions of zoo should do it. Save gold for Naxx up until wing 4, get mad scientist and make a hunter deck.
You can also try hunters without secrets. Face or midrange, whichever fits your available cards best.
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>>125336425
The problem is that the deck is stuffed with nothing but heals and control shit and then 5-7 murlocs on the side.
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>>125338012
I would think so, no one ever complained about having a 2 damage fireblast
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>>125338012
worse keeper of the grove.
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>shredder drops nat pagle
>second shredder drops nat pagle
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>go 11 wins
>195 gold, 1 golden rare, 75 dust and a 40 dust pack
what a joke
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>>125338012
You may get decent value out of it for a turn, but being a 2/3 it rarely survives. Maybe if you're really desperate for a ping Sir Finley may be better.
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>>125338302
>Enemy Shredder drops Memehouse
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>>125338302
Just remember, Anythng is better than fuckign LOREWALKER CHO.
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>>125338389
lorewalker cho is the best when your opponent memes with you
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>>125338302
>Shredders drops Darnassus bitch
>Play 1 mana behind for the rest of the game
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Post favorite minion quotes
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>>125338389
Well, if you can just spam minions and FORCE your enemy to bite the bullet and hand you some spells, then he's alright
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>>125338476
when that happens I just concede, not worth playing after that
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>>125338548
Strangely enough it always happens in games where I'm a bit behind but Dr. 7 may turn the tables around, and it always happens on turn 6.
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>>125336761
You do realize rogue has been able to do 24 damage in one turn since basic right?
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>>125338302
>Shredder piloted by Captains Parrot.
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>>125338476

>shredder drops darnassus
>against a druid
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>tfw you freezing trap a 9 drop making it a dead card
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>>125324440
technically true, but also infinite arena. he didnt spend money on it, doesnt mean he's not infinitely more skilled
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>>125339269
FUCK YOU
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>>125338516
Two heroes enter, one hero leave
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>>125324440

>rank 5 with a free to play deck

And only took him 2 months and playing 8 hours per day to achieve it! This game is totally F2P! xD
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>>125339496
He actually got to something like rank 2 in the first month and that was with him being gone for multiple events.
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>>125338516
>>125338516
ready to rape
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>>125339629

Seriously dude, you are embarrassing yourself, please, go back to twitch and give your shekels to your imaginary friend.
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>>125338516
DOOM FOR EVERYONE
HEHEHE
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>>125338516

all time favorite

>Come close and listen.
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>ranked
>paladin
>paladin
>paladin
>paladin

>arena
>paladin
>paladin
>mage
>paladin
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>>125340474
So just play a deck that does well against Paladin, such as Zoo or Freeze mage
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>>125339886
why does this card exist

let me BGH it blizzard you retards.

fucking 9 health is a joke.
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>>125340574
do you know how many fucking types of paladin there are?
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I've been using the tier one midrange druid deck on tempo storm. I feel like it's shit
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>>125340579
The fuck are you talking about?
>>125340626
Midrange and Secret?
Murloc's not really being played right now, eboladin is trash and so is control.
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nerf paladins fucking when

this fucking murloc knight summoned itself every fucking turn. this shouldn't be allowed
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>>125340737
>midrange
>aggro secret
>hybrid
>eboladin
>reno jackson
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>>125340641
you shouldn't be using any deck from tempo storm
they're purposely made bad
>>
Holy crap i just played against a reno rogue who picked shaman hero power and played elise. Easy win but which streamer did he steal that deck from?
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>>125340741
murloc knight isn't even good lmao
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>>125340810
It's the same deck as the one on liquid hearth
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>>125340806
You named three decks I already pointed out, I've never heard of a hybrid deck and reno paladin is a meme.
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>>125340806
>yes
>no
>no
>sometimes
>lifecoach
>>
>keep getting a winstreak to the higher ranks then getting stomped on
Feel when
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>>125340806

mech paladin
>>
Anyfin is fucking stupid, it's literally a 100% win against ANY hard control deck with no early aggression.

Yes counters should exist but NOTHING should beat something 100% of the time like anyfin does.

Such a fucking joke
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>>125338516
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>>125340806
What the fuck is hybrid? Is it just secret midrange paladin? Eboladin and reno control don't exist.
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>>125341064
Just play warrior and have infinite removals and 100+ health :^)
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>>125341110
Reno control does exist, I've been playing it.
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>>125308423
The hearthstoneplayers budget decks are usually pretty decent and current for around that amount of dusf. The mech warrior is so hype, or you could just build the midrange hunter one and actually win
>>
Does anyone have that pic of Khadgar laughing his ass off while giving you endless fetch quests? It's for science purposes.
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>>125341110
hybrid is secret paladin with tirion, consecration, loatheb, etc, less focused on divine favor, and bigger cards

it's just secret midrange paladin
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>>125341197
I guess my control mech mage with majordomo and millhouse is a thing as well, since i've been playing in.
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>>125341064
literally play control priest
hard counters anyfin pally so hard its not even funny
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do i mulligan away thalnos while playing freeze mage?
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>>125341291
That is correct. If you play it or see it played against you, the deck exists
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>>125340741
>Deathlord used to be a good card to deal with paladin's early turns
It's crazy to believe that paladin used to be a trash class pre naxx. Now i have a feeling that every time i play a card, a paladin can just play a better one for the same cost. Shit, even blessing of kings, which was considered garbage a while ago, is now pretty great since with muster and minibot it's pretty easy for a paladin to have a minion on board at any time
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>>125293880
>I was only 9 years old
>I loved Tirion Fordring so much, I had all the golden paladin cards and portrait
>I pray to Tirion every night before bed, thanking him for the wins I've been given
>"Tirion is love" I say; "Tirion is life"
>My dad hears me and calls me a shieldbearer
>I know he was just jealous of my devotion for Tirion
>I called him a scrub
>He slaps me and sends me to go to sleep
>I'm crying now, and my face hurts
>I lay in bed and it's really cold
>Suddenly, a warmth is moving towards me
>It's Tirion
>I am so happy
>He whispers into my ear "Put your faith in the light"
>He grabs me with his powerful paladin hands and puts me down onto my hands and knees
>I'm ready
>I spread my ass-cheeks for Tirion
>He penetrates my butt-hole
>It hurts so much but I do it for Tirion
>I can feel my butt tearing as my eyes start to water
>I push against his divine shield
>I want to please Tirion
>He roars in a mighty roar as he fills my butt with his light
>My dad walks in
>Tirion looks him straight in the eyes and says "don't test me child"
>Tirion leaves through my window
>Tirion is love. Tirion is life.
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>>125341320
Depends on match up. If you need him for the spell damage burst or 3-damage blizzards then mulligan it, but if you are facing aggro it can trade with 1-health minions and draws you a card early.
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>>125341526
underage b8
>>
>Druid threatening lethal with minions and combo next turn
>Plays that spell damage meme card
>Get a 4mana flamestrike
Nice
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>>125298185
>>125298185
>>125298185

Maybe you should get gud, senpai
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>>125341489
>used to be a trash class pre naxx
It was trash after Naxx too but sometimes was used to counter CW and handlock in tournaments.
>even blessing of kings
It was always used in aggro variants to close games, rarely as one of in midrange. Still a bad card for trading.

Just a reminder that paladin was trash without minibot and Muster. It doesn't have any other good early removal.
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>>125341526
Well Met!
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>>125341526
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>>125341539
thanks m8
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>>125341320
Depends on the matchup
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>>125341767
>Paladin would be trash without minibot and muster
You might be right, but they get to have such a great early game on top of a very powerful mid-late game. It can be pretty frustrating
>>
What's the most honest hearthstone deck?
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SOMEONE
FUCKING
KILL
ME
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>>125342163
That's nothing, imagine dropping from rank 1 5 stars to rank 7 without a win m8
>>
Feel when only 200gold away from naxx second quarter
Can stop running senjin soon boys
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>>125342190
Jesus, and i thought i had it bad for dropping from rank 1 5 stars to halfway rank 2. Sorry to hear it, m8
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>>125342190
How is that even possible? Was your dog playing?
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>coin
>elune guide my ass
fucking always
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>>125341261

anyone?
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>>125342239
tfw deathlords soon for aggro priest funsies
sitting on all dat dust for gold cards but no quarters sucks

arena addiction rip
>>
what decks are you guys playing?
>>
Is midrange shit or am i
>>
>>125342427

I'm playing renolock, climbed from rank 11 to rank 8 yesterday.

I win every mirror match because they play Rafaam and I play actually good cards.
>>
Midrange druid shit or am i shit?

cant reply in 1 min 41 seconds
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>I kill his deathlord
>My Reno pops out onto the battlefield

Looks like I'm not healing this game.
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>>125342427
My 2013 shaman deck, still winning >66%, none of that weapon/windfury bs
and it's golden..
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Finally mages have a way to deal with that pesky critter
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>>125342725
Would play just for the name of the card.
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>>125342427
>>
>coin mysterious challenger
>lose

EBIN
B
I
N
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>>125342089
Fear not. I think paladin already reached power ceiling for early minions and won't get more of them. Blizzard will try to diversify the class in several directions with mid or lategame cards.
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>>125342597
post decklist, been struggling to find good cards to replace my meme cards
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>>125342427

post your ramp deck
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HELP
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>Be control priest
>Playing against "Control" Warrior
>Mfw I have spent most of my strong card removal and he plays golden monkey
>Mfw I remember I still have a sludge belcher, PW:S, 2x Circle, Light of the Naaru and Holy champion left, as well as pyromancer.
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>>125343501
i just started playing raptors in it, i like them
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>>125343660
Is your deck filled with mechs?
Is your deck fileld with pirates?
No?
Oh, okay.
>>
>>125343660

>thousands of paladins in arena because top tier class

pick mimiron's head, anon
>>
>aggro warrior
>Cursed blade to help aggro
>can't even race with mid range
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>>125343451

1/2
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This is some Cthulhu shit
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>>125343724
That's not ramp, that's plain old mid range.
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>>125343724

That's not ramp druid, anon, that's combo druid.
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>>125343660
Who needs weapon removal and card draw in arena with decent stats?
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>>125343996
should i be playing astral communion??
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>>125343451

2/2
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>>125343996
>>125344057
fixed
>>
What's that cool unique totally original deck you're trying to make work but it's failing every time?

>Taunt Warrior with Eerie Statues and Ancient Watchers
>>
Complete scrub here.
I made a deathrattle deck about a year ago by just searching for deathrattle in my catalog and adding what I liked. Just got back to playing Hearthstone today and the deck got me to rank 14. Is there anything I can do to improve it, or will I need to use another kind of deck entirely to get over rank 14?
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>>125344315
renoshaman
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>>125344354
Play rogue, put the same shit in but add 2 Raptors.
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>>125344315
reno hunter
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>>125344354
Forgot to post my deck.
How embarassing.
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insta concede ?
>>
YOU DIE NOW
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>>125344605
NOW YOU FEEL PAIN
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>>125344315
Shadowform priest. Damn, if only that 3 mana TGT card that makes your next hero power cost 0 was released as a priest 2 drop
>>
>>125344576
>not drawing the perfect curve after that
get good
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Is midrange druid shit or am i
>>
>>125344753

it's most likely you
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>>125344776
I got to rank 5 last season with secret pally. My normie friend are making fun of me for being shit at this midrange druid
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>>125344576
actually an ez game
>>
You know the drill, senpaitachi.
>>
im at like rank 10, what deck do i climb to legend with this eason
>>
>>125345034
WIIIIIIIIIIINS
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>>125345034
>orange aura

thats jaundice, better get it looked at.
>>
>Against patron
>Get moonkin from effigy
>He whirlwinds trying to get patrons
>Kills everything

That was brilliant
>>
>>125314773
you must play at a level where antonaidas/jaraxxus/tirion arent in player collections. these cards singlehandedly win the fucking game.
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>>125342427
Well met! is a midrange, secret paladins are traitors of the Light.
Working towards Control Priest, Zoolock or Face Shaman, depends on what I'll unpack in the next few days. Haven't started ranking this season yet.
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>>125344976

>I got to rank 5 last season with secret pally.

found the problem, your IQ dropped because you played too much paladin
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>>125345079
blizztards?
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>>125344976
Bots can get to legend with secret shit, you just played an overpowered deck and your current performance is your actual power level.
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>>125345354
>>125345543
>hating on secret pally for being successful
>haters are gonna hate

Ayn Rand was right.
>>
>>125345543
Oh, i guess im shit.
>>
>6:30 - Dragon Warlock
>6:35 - Secret Hunter
>6:43 - Murloc Shaman
>6:50 - Deathrattle Rogue

Come back a few hours later, just past 10:30

>Midrange paladin
>Midrange paladin
>Secret Paladin
>Midrange Paladin

Holy goddamned shit, this class has been cancer bullshit since GvG. Paladin needs to be dumpstered within the next expansion or two, it's ruining this fucking game.
>>
solitaire mage is the most frustrating deck, i almost always won but is so booooring
>>
>>125345657

See? I am not wrong, you are acting like a retarded 12 years old kid, you know you are the problem and you don't accept it because you think you are good for playing a deck that autopilots itself for the win.

But now, when you try to play a deck that requires some kind of skill in order to win you don't know what to do because you are literally retarded.

These are my decks, btw, I don't hate secret pally, I just know paladin players.
>>
i wonder how many people realize that tracking actually discards two cards from your deck
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>>125346153
a deck with 24 cards is sure powerful
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>>125345894
Paladin was tier 2 at best after BRM for obvious reasons. You can't seriously call midrange paladin bullshit, it's fair and interactive.
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>>125346153
Discarding two useless cards can save your card draw.
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YOU FACE JARAXXUS EBIN LORD OF THE MEMEING CRUSADE
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>>125346652
Somebody just got sent to oblivion
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>>125345194
>>125345215

Dust or no dust?
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>>125346652
OBLIVION!
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>>125346652
JARAXXUS IS ... sorry
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>>125346652

Get rekt
>>
the real reason why cursed blade does not work is that fire war axe takes priority over it just one mana later
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>>125346727

>a 600 dust pack

Holy shit
>>
>>125346985
>He's never had a 2k+ dust pack
>>
>>125346114
>this much butt hurt

your tears, they be delicious.
>>
>>125346727
I would keep the earth ele.

I just like it. I know it's not the best, but 5 drop 7/8? hot damn.
>>
>>125346652
Should I craft Jaraxxus?

I really enjoy playing Renolock and played Handlock before that. I feel like a lot of the lategame power of control warlocks comes from that card and I'm still missing it.
On the other hand I'm also missing Sylvanas. She's obviously used in more decks and other classes as well, but I feel like the immediate impact of Jaraxxus would be bigger in my Renolock deck.

TLDR - Craft Jaraxxus or Sylvanas when 75% of my games are with Renolock and the other 25% are Control Priest?
>>
>>125347162

I too like having 3 mana on turn 6 after the elemental got bgh'd , and subsequently losing the board which incidentally is something Shaman is unable to come back from.
>>
>>125347301
yes
>>
>>125347301
Windrunner.
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>>125347162
I've got the beast in mah sights
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>>125346907
It doesn't work because it can't kill in one hit many cheap minions like Aspirant or Cleric
>>
>hate playing aggro
>too poor to build a control deck

fuck this limbo just let me enjoy myself
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Has anyone been running Rafaam?

What kind of consistency are you getting in what kind of deck? Grinder Mage, Ramp Druid, Handlock, Reno?

Do you find him to be pretty useful like Ysera, or only useful like 1 out of 5 times like Nefarian?
>>
>>125347679
Play a midrange deck?
>>
>>125347679
Play zoo. It's not as mindless as secret paladin, face hunter or aggro shaman.
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>>125347751

I've encountered two renolocks that ran him, won both times because he does nothing to prevent lethal of affect my board in the turn he's played. He's Varian Wrynn all over again.
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>4 Mana Mind Control, that gives the minion "Can't Attack"

It's a shame they fucked up the silence effects in HS so badly.
>>
>>125347847
Every deck in this game is mindless except for patron, and even that one only took elementary math to play well. This is not a game for people who like making decisions or smart choices, it's to watch the guys smack into the little guys until the big guy explodes.
>>
>Just faced a pally in arena with 7+ secrets and Mysterious challenger

What the fuck is this shit
>>
does anyone have fun playing this game?
>>
>>125347751
I run him in Renolock in Jaraxxus slot (because I don't have Jaraxxus) and like him a lot so far.
I feel like the board full of 3/3 is quite easy to clear for the opponent if he has AoE, but it's obviously devastating if he already used both of his Auchenai Circles or Flamestrikes or whatever.
The 10 random damage timepiece can be used as a pyroblast on opponents who don't have a board because they spent their turn dealing with Rafaam, or against decks like freezemage.
I mostly pick the +10/+10 lantern and rarely use it on Rafaam itself because I feel like getting 2 big threats for 1 card is good. Rafaam's body is big enough to require an answer in the form of removal or BGH and if you +10/+10 another minion (like a belcher token) later you have gotten 2 big threats for 1 card in your deck.
>>
>>125347973
I run him and you're right in that he does nothing to affect the board. You can't play him when you're behind and that's an obvious weakness of the card.
He's a lot like Ysera in that regard.
>>
>>125348210

>Next game against a lock
>Summon him a voidwalker with Hungry Dragon when he seems to have a deck based around demons

I'm gonna kill myself
>>
>>125347987
how about some text like "if the controlled minion would be silenced, return control first"
>>
>>125348562
Too complicated for HS, they don't like a lot of text with newer cards.
>>
In my lifetime of hearthstone I haven't gotten sub rank 12
Hit it with:
Midrange paladin
Dragon priest
Control shaman
Many Mage decks

Why can't I get better
I feel like I've hit a wall and I can't handle it
>>
>>125349027

maybe you are mentally challenged? you should see your doctor
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>>125349027

desu it's probably your play.

I'm not being condescending, it's what my problem was.

1. Think through your turns more carefully.
2. Be more careful with mulligans. Guides are useful.
3. Play with one deck for long stretches. Use the one you have that's closest to a tier list deck.
>>
>you will never, ever play Tyrion against Priest without him being stolen
>>
>>125349454
>Play him against Dragon Priest thinking you're safe
>Shrink Shrink Cabal
>>
>>125349454
Good you paladin fuck. I'll steal it through thoughtsteal anyway
>>
>>125349454
>>you will never, ever play Tyrion against Priest without him being stolen

>mfw I have tyrion on the board against a priest right now
>mfw it got fucking entombed in the middle of typing this post
>>
>>125349454

BY THE LIGHT!
>>
Reminder when you play rafaam your opponent can memorize which card you pick as they're not shuffled. They really need to fix this it ruins it
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>saraad gives pyroblast to a hunter in arena
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I'm kinda new to HS but I was wondering:

why the fuck do people watch Forsen and why are they so hardgay for him?

as far as I can tell he's not a tournament player, he usually plays shitty music that is drowning out his mic,when he talks he doesn't comment on the gameplay or teach anything, he just talks about random shit.

what is going on?
what is the appeal? what am I missing?
>>
>>125349454
>Priest Entombs Tirion and Boom
>still loses to full board of dudes
Happy Feast of Winterveil, champion!
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>>125349454
>Priest has the best removal in the game
>Paladin has literally THE WORST REMOVAL IN THE GAME

Yeah man, Enter the Colosseum really helped out with that Paladin aoe removal.
>>
>>125350307

If Paladin had better removal it'd be absolutely unbeatable.
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Why haven't they changed the BBB and the Magma rager to match the Heckler and Ice Rager.

>"Because Jousting."
>Implying that you would take Bodyguard over more or less any other 5 drop.
>Not addressing the ragers.
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>>125350129
Forsen viewers are mostly children and need father figure. Know how kids follow cool highschoolers who drink and smoke?
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>>125350129

stfu faggot
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>>125350307
If you give Paladin actually good removal you will never see another class on ladder again.
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>>125349280
Trigger all other character's what?
Am I to assume it just activates every ability of every minion?
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>>125350409
Blizz wanted to show they won't buff cards to please f2p. Ice Rager was a message.
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>>125350436
the other day I watched reckful and he invited some subs to his voice program thingy and the autists there unironically called him dad all the time. it reminded me of the daddy roleplay gays do, I cringed so hard I almost had a stroke.
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>>125350129
The streams with a lot of viewers are just spam, shitty memes, and people being complete sheep.

I can't watch a single person just sitting there streaming, I only watch tournaments.
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>>125350129
lol what a pleb
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>>125350307
>equality + concentration
>aldor
>uldaman
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>>125350697

> 2-card combo
> silenceable and doesn't actually kill the minion
> silenceable and doesn't actually kill the minion or even make it harmless
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should I buy a 50 pack of cards?

I'm f2p as of yet but I don't play enough to buy packs regularly with quest rewards and am afraid of fucking my ass in arena and losing the 800 gold I saved. I don't own any adventures yet and my other cards are too weak to compete against all the kids in casual play that run full on meta fotm decks all day every day.

pic related,the shitty legendaries I got as of now.
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>>125350878

1. disenchant all of those legendaries
2. disenchant all rares and epics you don't need for the decks you want
3. Buy naxx with all your gold

there, free metadeck. I built a midrange druid for free this way.
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>>125350129
He actually got a lot worse lately, gachi isn't that fun anymore, chat being cancerous is also super boring and decks he makes himself are so fucking bad.
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>>125350436
>>125350647
>>125351194

>not just popping out the stream so you don't see the chat

is this general full of plebs?
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>>125351106
I got 855 gold,that's only enough for 1 wing.

it probably takes a month of grinding to be able to afford a full adventure with gold while getting 10 gold per 3 wins.
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>>125350878
Arena will always reward you a pack of cards and some dust. So when you pay 150 for entry, the most you're really losing is 50 (discounting whatever the dust is worth). And do consider the dust worth a lot as a f2p since it gets you tons of common cards you're missing very quickly. So it's worth it for a lot of factors: the experience you get, familiarity with all sorts of different cards and their interactions, some fun (potentially) and at least a pack if not more. If you'd rather not play at all just because you'd rather play constructed then buying packs isn't awful as it saves you time and perhaps agony over 0-3s (it will happen) when you know your deck is solid and you played it fairly well. But that, my friend, is Hearthstone. Well met.

Definitely play arena using the site listed in the OP to build your deck until you feel really comfortable doing it yourself.
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>>125351395

if you grind your 30 wins + quest every day you can buy a wing every 5 days
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>>125351395

yep. that's life.

if you want a metadeck and you're free to play, just figure out the total dust cost and grind for it. there's no magic solution.
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>>125351395
If you like Hearthstone at all buying the expansions, at least Naxx and a few wings of BRM, is the best choice. LoE definitely impacted the game and is probably worth the money in general but definitely not more so than Naxx.

tl;dr if you like Hearthstone and expect to play constructed at all and are willing to pay any sort of money, step one is Naxx. Period.
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>>125351439

just fucking buy the adventures

grinding for a literal week to get a wing to save yourself like four dollars is stupid as fuck, and will get you burned out on the game

buying packs is awful EV, especially considering the last expansion was fucking terrible, but the expansions are worth it
>>
>>125350878
Don't buy packs with real money if you can still buy the adventures.

The adventures give you guaranteed good cards that you will NEED and are better value for your money.
>>
Have you gotten to rank 5 without netdecking?

Be honest.
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>>125352057
>have you purposefully crippled yourself?

lol no
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>>125352057
If mech mage without legendaries counts than yeah
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>>125352057
Have you ever shot yourself in the foot?
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I just hate arena. It's RNG on top of an already RNG infested game.
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>>125340737
Is fat faggot priest avatarfag back?

I remember the war...
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>>125352057

i got to low legend back during the summer playing a mindless flamewaker aggro deck with jeeves and leper gnomes
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>>125352057
>muh netdecking
oh you must be a SELF MADE MAN
I BET YOU EVEN SUCKED THE DICK ALL BY YOURSELF TO FUND THAT COMPUTER
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>>125352057
yes. Not this season though.
I literally rember my early days of vanilla aggro warrior and paladin since i was f2p and still am.
Rank 5 scared me and i could barely win more than a couple games before hiting rank 6 again.
I might even get legend with aggro curse lock i made.
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>>125352057

>am i a special snowflake?

why bother?
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>>125352198
No idea what you're talking about :)
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Yayy
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>>125352612
How did you lose twice with that deck?
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>people seriously play raptor rogue
lmao free stars
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>>125352758
even more disgusting paladin decks
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>>125352612

>dat curve.

How can people be this lucky.
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1600 dust. Do I craft Harrison for my Midrange Pally, VanCleef for my Oil Rogue or do I craft 2 Arcane Blasts, a Molten and a Twisting Nether for Tempo Mage and Renolock?
>>
Oh Lolwalker you're such a card.

I also learned Skelesaurus will death his own minions. So there's probably a legit strategy involving Cho.
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>>125352980
Certainly not those 4 epics, I'd go with harrison if you already have sylv/justucar for pally
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>>125352980
>>125352980

arcane blasts are unnecessary and not worth the craft, and a lot of lists don't even run them anymore

the heavy control renolock lists with feugen and stalagg sometimes run molten and twisting nether, but you could likely get away with not running one or both of them, especially if you're running a combo package instead

the molten is only really good in reno if you're running double taunt givers

twisting nether i've found to be solid, but not amazing

so, i'd probably go with harrison, even though he's pretty much a glorified tech card like kezan
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Is meem steed viable?
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>>125347987
>mfw all this untainted and feel good Vanilla/TBC/WotLK art used in the TCG
>mfw Hearthstone is stuck with shitty new age WoW and unrelated OC art
>>
So, what are the list of legendaries that we're sure will NEVER see play? I have a few shit ones around that I know I'm definitely disenchanting (gruul, hogger, krush, acidmaw), but others are on the brink (onyx, nat)
>>
>>125353757
Not a single one, we can't look into the future.
>>
>>125328954
It's nearly as broken as the MtG card the artwork is based off of!

Just kidding, it isn't in the slightest.
>>
>>125353906
what is it
>>
>>125352816

If they get their god curve it can be pretty fucking annoying to deal with.
>>
>>125354002
ancestral recall you fucking normie

do you even magic
>>
>>125353757
I mean, those are all pretty dustable. But it is hard to say desu, like Malygos seemed fuckin useless in Vanilla.
>>
>>125354103
Obviously not, but thanks!
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>>125354002
Ancestral Recall, one of the most powerful and expensive cards. 1U mana to draw 3 cards
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>>125354090
wow it is not like all decks are annoying if they get perfect curve
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>>125354196

Blue is truly the biggest cancer to ever exist

Hearthabbies have no idea. They think secret paladins are a problem. How cute.
>>
>>125354172
>>125353835
would you recommend against dusting?
>>
>>125354306
>hearthbabb getting mad at the color that reduces variance

ayyyyyyyyy lmao
>>
>>125354196
Can you provide some examples of what are considered balanced card draw effects so we can draw a comparison? I mean, isn't our Innervate technically the same thing as their Black Lotus, which is considered the most broken card?
>>
just got memed on by the perfect tempo mage arena draft
fuck facefags
>>
autosquelch when?
>>
Fucking arena I swear. How the fuck do I go infinite? Whenever I save up 150 gold, I manage to last like 5-6 arenas, but then a streak of bottom-tier classes+shit picks makes me go 2-3 and it's all over.
>>
>>125354394
Black lotus is 3 mana instead of 2 and I'd consider one mana in mtg worth more than 1 mana in hearthstone.
Black Lotus is like double innervate in a single card. And innervate is one of the best cards in hearthstone too.
>>
>>125354394
How many classes would play Innervate if it was a neutral spell?
>>
>>125354394

Black Lotus was broken because it provided a profit of 3 mana for one card, and in any combination of colors too - the combination of colors was much of what made it absolutely bonkers, since the color wheel is supposed to be a major balancing factor. (Now with all the various multicolor stuff printed, it's entirely possible to craft nearly 100% reliable 5-color manabases with very little drawback, though.)

Most other "rituals" that swap cards for immediate free mana only give two mana in "profit", and usually are highly color limited.

The base draw effect is literally Arcane Intellect: three mana for two cards, and to some small extent five-six mana for four (so rogues actually got the short end of the stick with Sprint). Variants might add additional drawbacks or demand requirements, but lower the cost or make it instant speed.
>>
>>125354765
Every single one, without exception.
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>>125354394
"balanced" would be something like divination, which is essentially arcane intellect

drawing comparisons between magic and hearthstone isn't really helpful, though, because magic is a much more complicated game

essentially, though, the super broken cards in magic like recall and black lotus enable more broken things than in hearthstone

in hearthstone, a druid innervates out a shade which you can flamecannon

in magic, a player can black lotus out a yawg will and storm you for 20 after therapying you twice and it's gg
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>>125354765
Weren't there some Black Lotus equivalent cards that only applied to one color but were still considered broken? I think they had the word "Mox" in their name.
>>
Do I pick Gormok the
>implyer
>>
>>125354394
In today's terms drawing 3 cards is worth something like 4-5 mana, so drawing 3 for 1 is insane.
Ancestral Recall could also be cast at instant speed, whereas most "draw 3" cards can only be cast on your turn.

Black Lotus is still the most broken card because it enables turn-1 kills. Imagine instead of that Anyfin Pally killing you on turn 10, it's turn 1 instead.
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>>125354838

Also also, individual cards have much less value in MTG since the "average" deck will be made of 40% lands. The land system is what the Hearthstone system is based on: one extra dropped land a turn --> one additional maximum mana a turn. Draws and topdecks often end up drawing yet another land you didn't need; or, in early game, yet another spell you can't play because you don't have enough/the right lands.

So three mana for one card is even more ludicrously powerful, since one card represents much less of a relative investment.
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>>125354935
Not exactly. Mox Emerald, Sapphire, etc are just artifacts that act as lands if I remember correctly, so basically mana acceleration akin to wild growth.
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>>125354935
moxen are sort of like an extra land that you can play, which ramps you one mana, except you can play them in addition to your regular land, and they count as artifacts which turbos out things thanks to tolarian academy and shit
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>>125354991
no
>>
/hsg/ is like the opposite of every other thread on this board when it comes to making new threads
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>>125354991
Go for Bolvar dream
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>>125354935
Moxes are 0 mana wild growths.
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>>125354991
bolvar would be best imo, but if you don't mind giving your opponent double +1/+1 go for mukla
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>>125355020
This is why cards like Tracking exist en masse in MtG. You're constantly wanting to filter the top card of your library to make sure it's going to be a powerful draw, instead of a dead drop like a basic land.
This is also why Wizards will never stop printing fucking dual lands, which not only provide 2 colors of mana instead of one but also can filter the top card of your deck, give you life, or other annoying shit I have to shell out $15 a pop for if I want to continue playing Standard.
>>
>Hearthstone General: Magic the Gathering

GET OUT
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>golden monkey won game for forsen
elise is a good card
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>>125354394
>balanced card draw effects
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>>125354935
Mox cards were basically like getting an extra mana crystal for free, and you could play as many of them per turn as you wanted, instead of being limited to 1 land a turn/1 mana crystal a turn.
They were also artifacts, so shit interacted with them. Imagine if mana crystals in HS were considered Beasts (not a best example but you get the idea)
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>new exp out
>ladder is still 90 % secredin

yeah mysterious challenger is balanced I guess
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>summon inner fire
>into velens
>mind control minion next turn for free sea giant on top
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>>125354394
Shit like >>125355384 are deceptive to a new player because it looks like a huge amount to pay for drawing just 3 cards, but in MtG your graveyard is a resource you can tap into, just like your deck. In this case you remove cards from the game to pay for the spell; in others you can use the graveyard to buff a creature.

It's kind-of like if Bolvar counted the number of enemy minions that died in the game, or if the Giants cost 1 less per card you played.
>>
New thread:
>>125355584
>>125355584
>>125355584
>>
How do I stop getting mad at Paladins?

No other class gets under my skin the way they do, not even priests. Their cards are one bullshit after another, seem like whatever I play they have something better for the same cost or even less.

>that's a nice dark peddler you have there, it'd be a shame if my shields were up during this red alert.
>>
New bread

>>125355660
>>125355660
>>125355660
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>>125355384
did you say balanced card draw effects?
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>>125355617
>>125355721

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT !!
>>
>soulfire always,ALWAYS discards the card you need the most

>you have 9 cards including Reno? You can be sure as fuck it's gonna be Reno.

I HATE THIS FUCKING CARD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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