/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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1st for I'll fix the pastebin with the new footage if the original pastebin anon isn't around.

I'm actually looking forward to KOWASHITAI. I hope the rest of /smtg/ won't be stupid about discussing it here when it's finally out in America.

>>125221748
It's going to depend on the actual gameplay, but it looks like it belongs more in /pg/ or /feg/. What is it you're looking forward to? I can't muster any excitement towards the game, and I keep losing interest the more I see of it. The idol theme and the FEsona designs throws me off.

>>125221748
No go make your own general because it will not be allowed in /feg/ or /smtg/.

Or revive jrpgg to talk about it.

Holy shit Sector Delphinus is so BORING. And now there's conveyor belts in the fucking dark.

On the plus side I allowed Black Frost to change a skill and it became Hades Blast so random encounters barely even have a chance to appear on screen anymore.

>>125224718
>It's going to depend on the actual gameplay, but it looks like it belongs more in /pg/ or /feg/
Plays nothing like FE. Looks more like SMT or Persona.

>>125232676
FE has gone complete waifu faggotry with the last games, it's heading towards the direction of #FE thematically.

>>125234628
Gameplay is still completely different though.

I NEED THE MUSIC IN THAT NEW TRAILER NOW

>>125221748
Looks shit tbf senpai. I have no interest in it.

>>125236940
This?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVp8EBJ__Yc

>>125237130
I meant from this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3EFjFJgX3g but thanks anyway anon, this is still cool. I love this music. Is it the same guy who did SMTIV? I'm not keeping up with the news on purpose.

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>Gideon is spazzing out about mailmen tampering with his mail instead of finishing the last few "extremely simple things" left to do on the If... patch

Okay, fuck this. I'm getting the PSX version.
Anyone go through it with the Gamefaqs translation guide before? Any advice?

>>125237629
Yeah, it's Koduka again.

>>125240813
>stop having a life and get back to hacking games for my enjoyment
I don't even like the bastard but yeesh.

>>125240813
Gideon has basically only completed like 12 things actually worth playing, anyway.

Know how to read katakana, for one.

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>>125240868
I fucking love his music, now I'm getting hyped.

>>125240813
Still kinda annoyed at him over what happened literally days before he released the Innocent Sin patch.
>some people are being impatient and mean on the internet
>I'll threaten to not release the patch, that'll show 'em!
As a pleb on the sidelines who was waiting for ages, I was pretty butthurt at the time. Wonder how Tom felt. Didn't know he was even near finishing the If... patch, I'll have to bookmark his site.

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>Jonathan sperging like nobody else when Walter asks him about his "stratagem" to hit on women
>the audio file on the smt4 website where Jonathan says he isn't into women and he feels better around men

Was he gay? Not that it matters since he most likely dies by fusing with the angels. I'm really curious about it though, these seem like useless details.

>>125244241
IS was Gemini, no?
And honestly, SMTG has good reason for disliking Gideon, he spreads himself thin, often translates games that don't really "need" it, and both SMT1 and 2 were bugged as hell before Orden and SMTG helped bugcheck everything.

>>125245059
He's a prude.

>>125245059
He's a goody-two-shoes nancyboy.
He falls for the Lilim, he's just bad with women.

>>125245440
>Gemini
Oh shit, you're right. Getting my Gs mixed up. It's a shame, because IS was the last "big" retranslation I played. I kept waiting for Devil Summoner on PS1, but afaik, it never happened. I need to import the 3DS version, I guess.

>>125246113
Eh? You shouldn't need to import a game that's in English.

why do people pretend to like Jack Frost?

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>>125246302
I'm a britfag with an American 3DS. I've been importing SMT and Persona games since 2004, m8. It's cheaper, I have access to the limited editions and the eshop is so fucking cheap. I have to wait a little longer for physical games to ship from Amazon US (waited an extra week for MH4U) but that's the literal only downside. I'll never ever buy region locked consoles, but if I am pushed, I'll always default to the American machine. When mainline SMT went to 3DS, it was the obvious choice. Eurofags who did otherwise fucked up bigtime.

>>125247176
I'm so jealous, I only discovered megaten recently because I'm French and couldn't understand English well enough until the last years of high school and I didn't have a PS2 for a long time (I just got one some months ago). As a result I missed a bunch of games back then. I should have gotten an American PS2.

>My demons are a bit different
Can someone tell me how to fuse Jonathan's demons. I want to see what's so different about them.

Different skills?
Different stats?
Different demons you can't get?

What are his secrets?!

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>>125247814
Sorry to hear that, French anon.
>American PS2
No way do I have a US PS2, UK plugs would set the bloody thing on fire. No, my advice to you is to look up someone who will chip your console for you on eBay. This was years ago when I was like 17 and didn't even have my own PC, but I had to pay £22 to get it sent to Southhampton, guy chipped it for £15 and then sent it back. The chip is now ancient, but the PS2 still works for my Megaten needs. PC emulation is really the way to go though, that's how I got into Drakengard. Emulation really led me to see just how shit the old 50HZ PAL games were, it's shocking. Most of them don't even emulate well.

The 3DS is easier to import because the plugs we use in the UK are safe to use with it, no need for clunky transformers and the like. I know that Europe (the continent, should I say) uses different plugs to us though, as well as America. I would be very wary of actually importing a foreign home console, though thankfully the need for that is much smaller now.

>>125247814
You can just emulate them now.

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y thor sad

>>125245059
Isabeau mentions she's not good with boys, but she's clearly got a crush on Flynn.

>>125249230
Now that I have a PS2 I'm going to buy them, I don't like playing on my computer and I like collecting games, as stupid as it sounds. Most games are cheap anyway, except for the 1st Raidou game, the price is bullshit on amazon.

>>125248872
The thing about different plugs is so frustrating, I'm glad I never had to deal with it myself. In Morocco when I pay my family a visit I always bring some portable consoles and I never had trouble while charging my DS or PSP's batteries.

>>125249737
I get where you're coming from, but I'm in North America so it was easier for me to get them. u gotta do wut u gotta do tho senpai

>>125249660
There's a difference with reacting so strangely when somebody jokes about you hitting on people from the opposite sex when there's only friends around you and just mentioning not being good with boys though, but I guess you're right.

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>>125249513
Because demi-fiend never replies back

>>125250287

I thought it was implied he was gay right at the beginning of the game when Walter asks him something about his way with women or something, and he spergs out completely. And then Walter says something like 'Oh...I see how it is' with a weird look. I dunno, I might be remembering it wrong.

>>125250839
It's called being a prude.

>>125250839
Yeah that was the scene I mentioned at first.

>>125250931
I've always been called a prude for a bunch of reasons and even I wouldn't have reacted like Jonathan did. Although I guess this doesn't mean much.

>>125250931

It's called being a Japanese game.

>>125250839
If he was gay he'd just roll his eyes and calmly say he's not interested.

>>125251141

Nah, me neither. And I'm a huge prude.

And Walter's reaction is weird if it was just meant to be prudish.

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>>125251378
Sounds familiar.

>>125251505
Yeah he was like "oooh I get it ;)" or something it was weird.

>>125241573
I've done scanlation work so I understand somewhat the time consuming, frustrating and thankless nature of these projects.
But when you continuously flaunt how close to completion a project is and make vague comments about waiting so you can find ways to monetize a fan-translation, you forfeit any sympathy. I'm done waiting, that's all.

When I 'make claim' to a project, I feel some responsibility to see it through in a timely fashion because claiming it discourages others from picking it up, as doing redundant work is hugely demotivating.

>>125252168
how did Hinako even take the leap to think something like that anyway
his unfazed reaction completely roasted her.

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>>125251378
>>125252236

Fuck it, I looked it up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc5I6FhsVN4 at 18:35

>Oho, is that your strategem for wooing the ladies, Jonathan?
>Wha--!? D-Don't be coarse Walter. I do not, erm...you know.
>Wait, are you saying?
>I see! In...in that case. (Etc Etc)

He gay, anons.

>>125252467
Anyone who dresses like she does is a perv themself. Must've been projecting onto him.

>>125252934
Getting flustered when accused of sexual shit is common in Japanese shit. If he was gay he'd have no reason to get flustered.

>>125253452

He's living in some backwards ass medieval time, he'd have every reason to get flustered.

Also again, Walter's reaction makes no sense if it's not about gay. But believe whatever you want to believe.

>>125245059
He said he's uncomfortable around women because he has older sisters that terrorized him growing up.

>>125253725
>He's living in some backwards ass medieval time
Then he wouldn't try to get it across at all.

>>125252934
Clearly Walter is insinuating that he is a vorgin

>>125253961

Okay, so explain what Walter means by 'Wait, are you saying...?'

In what context does that make sense if he's talking about just being prudish.

>>125254338
Either misunderstanding or >>125254306

>>125253961
He's just really bad at lying because he's honest all the time.

>>125254306

Well shit, I didn't think of that. Good point anon.

>>125254463
Chaos is for cool sexhavers.

>>125254628

Clearly. Whelp, guess he died a virgin too. Sad.

Help

http://strawpoll.me/6258767

>>125254728
Or maybe he'll come back in Final just like Walter but it'll be a plot twist so there's still hope for him somehow.

So is SMT IV similar to SMT I in that you should use the bullets that put enemies to sleep?

Should I be using swords or guns in random battles? Early on I didn't realise Dexterity was what you should be out to points into, not strength, so its a bit behind my strength. Should I just use guns anyway or wait until my dexterity passes my strength?

>>125256309
yes

>>125254728
Fusing is basically the most intense type of sex, so he actually lost his virginity JUST before he died in the best way possible.

>>125256649

That's an interesting point of view. That's going to make fusing angels a lot more amusing.

>>125252934
There's still the fact that he was charmed by the Lilim, as >>125245571 said.

>>125254728
He fucked Flynn

>>125248872
Holy shit just buy a converter for different voltages. That shit costs like a few € at most.

>>125256649
>>125256952
Wait don't some demons ask you to be fused with a hottie?

Holy shit, can't believe I never thought of it this way before.

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>>125254628
>tfw you realize all lawfags are permavirgins

>>125258294
>[s]Frosts![/s]
what the heeho

>>125258251

You're right!

>>125258337

Until they get fused apparently. Fusing a law demon is doing a good deed now.

>>125258337
Lawfag in SMT I had a girlfriend, he must have gotten more than Chaosfag did.

>>125258828
hero had a crush on her, no wonder law hero died

>>125258337
Chaos IRL is edgy neckbeard atheists. Disciples of the true ways of the LORD find love and peace.

Who's the permavirgin here?

I AM A TOOL OF THE LORD
I AM A TOOL OF THE LORD
I AM A TOOL OF THE LORD

>>125258970

Getting teabagged by YHVH isn't love. Please leave this abusive relationship lawfags.

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>>125258970
>Chaos IRL

>>125260171
Lawfags can't separate reality and fiction. They do it unironically.

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so this time will be able to dress the protagonist of final in cute dresses?

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I just browse this board to download smt pics. Gibe pls

>>125250839
Check the booru

Ukko Ylijumala mother fucking when!?!

>>125261251
No

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>>125261251
>>125261302
I don't know how that quote happened but okay

>>125236650
Its a FE spinoff, you cant say its not /feg/ related when fucking Chrom is a main character along the other characters like Tiki and Tharja.

It is refered as ATLUSxFE internally so its indeed FE which should be discussed in feg.

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>>125259878

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>>125259878
>law
>abusive relationship
>chaos literally says the strong can do whatever they want, which s the basis of actual real abusive relationships.

Yeah. Vague metaphors to make law look bad override that chaos is actually bad. Sure.

>tfw just started a new game in SMTIV
>first time playing an SMT game
>got past the forest for the first time
>never bothered to recruit the pixie
>tfw just realized that I missed out on a special fusion
Should I reload a previous save and actually go for it? I'll miss out on a couple hours of playtime.

>>125267314
High Pixie is nothing special and you can return to the forest later. Don't worry about it.

>>125267314
You can always go back to the forest and recruit one dude.

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>>125267314
Also, I'm in love with pic related

>dat cute as fuck design
>dat lovable bitchy personality
>dat fucking voice
>tfw I know you only meet her in the beginning of the game and once you progress, you'll never have use for her or see her again

At least her personality and voice live on through some of her fusions.

>>125267727
>cute as fuck design
>covered in condoms and christmas lights

>>125267505
>>125267529
It's not letting me go back to the forest right now due to the main quest getting in the way, which is really annoying.

Also I reloaded my last save, and found out that I missed on Tam Lin, who seems like he'd be really useful. Is he?

Also I have another question regarding fusions. It's generally a better idea to fuse your demons right? I've been doing so, but I can't help but notice that with some fusions, sometimes their stats aren't quite as good as some of the originals'.

Say if I have a Lv. 12 Pele and a Lv. 11 whatever, and my Pele has a shitton of MP, and I'm trying to fuse them into a Leanan Sidhe but her MP overall would actually be worse than my Pele, and her magic stats overall worse as well. Would she be capable of growth or something? That's just an example.

>>125268285
She's cute to me.

I'm not usually that type of guy, but I want her to bully me sexually.

>>125266146
What're you, a woman

>>125268591
Ah right, Pixie special fuses into Tam Lin, my bad.

Tam Lin main use is that he learns Estoma Sword. This skill "enchants" your melee weapon for a bit, allowing you to eliminate mobs without having to fight them.

It's a really nice skill for later in the game, but Tam Lin really doesn't have the MP to use it often.

As for stats, demons have 3 possible HP/MP ratios: 5-6:1, 3:1 and 1:1. On levelup, demons get 5 points randomly distributed between their stats. Either now or later on, you'll be able to buy apps that give additional points into determined stats on demon levelup, for a total of +1 to each stat and +5 to randomly distributed stats on levelup.

>>125269797
Alright, so for Tam Lin, I should go ahead and finish the main quest, then go back and fuse Tam Lin?

Also all that stuff about stats I'll take note of. Thank you, I'll keep it all in mind.

Also I took the sidequest where you have to fight the dragon right outside of the city, on the lake and one of my demons got 'Lost'. I read the manual and apparently I have to find her? Will she just appear anywhere or what?

>>125266146
chaos doesn't hide it's "the strong are boss" behind "but the rules!". LAW... talks about being orderly and kind and messianic...

and then it triggers nuclear wars and when those doesn't wipe out humanity, calls for biblical flooding, too.

chaos bullies you, calls you a pussy. law bullies you while telling you it's your fault because if YOU had JUST LISTENED to what THEY TOLD YOU to do, then THEY WOULDN'T ever have BEEN FORCED TO HURT YOU.
neutral is where it's at. fuck chaos' "might makes right", fuck law's OBEY, these dangerous extremes should be avoided at all costs.

>>125270437
Neutrals are just glrebbers though.

>>125270437
Fuck off neutralfag.

>>125270325
You will find your lost demon as a random encounter.

>>125271295
Alright.

Fucking beat the hell out of that dragon btw. I swear, actually doing pretty well in this game is so satisfying.

One more question: Apps that are useful?

>>125271525
Get MP regen, expanded skill slots

>>125271714
Sweet, thanks. I'll play some more in a bit.

What carries over to another cycle in DDS 1?

>>125237629
Oh my fucking god the animation looks so good

>>125237629

Here: >>125164438

>>125276192
>+a bunch of Pixie porn
>just an mp3 file
YOU BASTARD

Who's the weeb that keeps putting the nip in the title?

>>125275425
Some of your money. Also if you made the right dialogue choices you will get some special skills in the last dungeon.
If you beat some bonus bosses you will get some rings as well.

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>>125277735
Yeah, because SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI isn't nip, right?

>>125278239
He means new cycle, not from one game to the next.

>>125275425
Skills, the mantra grid, your cash, and that's about it really. Along with some items if you got them from optional bosses iirc.

Why is chiaki such a bitch to the point where she had to kill level 13 enemies

>>125278909
Well I can't read. Guess I'm a failure of a human

>>125279253
your mom because she's garbage

was Argilla and Jinana lesbos

>>125281116
is always raining in the junkyard?

>>125281116
Can you not escape your hunger?

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I want to fucking play IF.. !

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>>125280935

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>>125276192
Fuck the non-existent porn, anon is legendary. I can't stop listening to it.

>>125283410
Same. I tried to play Ni No Kuni again, but it's so fucking grindy. Level 5 made Rogue Galaxy as well, didn't they? I stopped playing that because it got so grindy. I ain't got nothing to play.
>hurr you play SMT
There are good and bad grinds. Like, grinding for a demon in SMT/Persona, you know you're always gonna get it eventually. With NNK, you could literally grind a familiar for hours and get nothing. The capture rates are so low with no real way to improve them, there's little incentive to catch everything, they evolve but not in any cool or elaborate way...

I just wanna catch me some monsters/demons.

>>125287434
>Level 5 made Rogue Galaxy as well, didn't they?

Did you buy it on PS4? They also made Dark Cloud.

I don't even know if I actually like Level 5 anymore.

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>>125288551
No, I had it on PS2. Got pretty far, but never finished it. I couldn't get into Dark Cloud at all.
>I don't even know if I actually like Level 5 anymore.
They've got neat ideas, but it's just hidden under this layer of minor game design flaws that build up to really bug you. Like, the familiar system on NNK is really neat, but it's like certain things weren't thought through properly.
>you can catch familiars!
almost 5+ hours into the game
>maybe I'll go back and catch that neat Naja snake familiar!
good luck, it has a 6% capture rate, put a few hours aside for it, there is no way to boost the chances until near the end of the game, and even then it's a paltry +50% boost
>you can feed treats to your familiars!
treats boost the creatures stats barely, and your named familiar is going to grow exactly the same as any old caught familiar of it's genus, it's not like Pokemon where properly raised creatures are stronger than enemies, they're all the same
>you can evolve your familiar into two ultimate forms!
one is always much better than the other - do you want your cool physical attacker to evolve into an OP attacker or a water-element attacker, for which you have no moves?
>here's a surpise party member!
really late in the game, with one familiar, so now I have to grind up two more from level 1 or level 10

Sorry, I'm just bitching at this point. Final can't get a western release date soon enough desu.

>>125289821
It's interesting to me, since I plan on playing it soon.

>>125278437
Many games are japanese but you don't see ゼルダの伝説 written around here

>>125290047
It's a lovely, beautiful game that really sells you the world. Sometime, I love it and sometimes, the needless grinding for a nice looking new familiar drives me insane. I'll definitely be buying the sequel. For those first few hours, it's very fucking hand holdy, be warned. It's got that nice Ghibli-esque lore to it (for example, you go to a fairy village and it's...not what you'd expect) and it's one of the only lattery day JRPGs with an actual budget (although Star Ocean 5 looks very fucking nice). The ally AI will also drive you insane, but it's nowhere near as bad as SMTIV thankfully. I am still triggered by Minotaur.

>>125290459
>nintendo
kiddie shit.

>>125290459
SMT is more Japanese than most games though. Most of the games are set in modern Japan, and the stories are filled with themes relevant to Japanese society. Not to mention large portions of the series were never officially released outside Japan.

Since it started to get used, I considered that the 真・女神転生 in the OP looks pretty neat.

If it triggers a fag who plays these games, but still gets angry by the name, even though it is even placed in several western covers of the games, so be it.

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Why is he dressed like that

>>125295224
Because SJ is lolsorandom garbage. Hence why /v/ fags love it so much.

>>125295224
Because DK stole his tie

>>125295224
Because bowties are cool.

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>>125295689
>>125295407
>>125295316
Don't forget.

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>>125295981

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>>125295316
>lolsorandum
you wut, m8?

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Blasted tokyo is the saddest part of SMT IV.
How people can still believe in a god that basically say them to fuck off via nukes and a giant poison machine?

>>125281116
Only Jinana, Argilla has the hots for Serph.

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>>125295224
When Gore died they dressed him so they could bury him as soon as they reached earth so they dressed him for his burial, he was then revived by Maya.

Based Gore the best nigga in gaming.

>>125297060
or is bi.

>>125298197
She kind of flirted with Roland so she is probably more straight than lesbo.

>Just got to Eridanus for the first time
Guys help me I'm so fucking confused where am I even going in this place. I feel like I've taken every damn path but all I've done is kick Jimenez in the dick, look at some thing for Zelenin, and grinded up to level 43 on trash demons. I also found some rare forma but that just gave me enhanced Forma Vision.

>>125298997
you need to activate an elevator and then collect some forma for jack.
i think.

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>>125267727
I know she's supposed to be a water spirit or something, but why does she look like she's covered in bouncy balls and Easter Eggs?

>>125297032
Things are very different when gods actually exist and interact with the human race

I kinda liked not having magic as a human in SMT I and II.
Do you think another SMT game could do that same idea well?

>>125304474
SJ did.

You dont use magic but shoot elemental bullets, think of RE 3 Grenade Launcher rounds.

Also Majin Tensei is like that. As for an idea, it could work. Would be cool to have something similar to Parasite Eve 1 weapon customization system for guns.

>>125304474
Playing SMT IV is feasible without using magic. There's lots of ammo that really goes wasted because of magic

>>125304474
Sure. But you also have Strange Journey, and Devil Summoner games though.

>>125304837
>>125304989
The thing about SJ is that the guns are a bit too close to magic in my opinion.
I like that there's multiple functions to a gun now, but the fact that it uses MP and can do basically all of the same stuff as magic in almost the exact same way just makes it feel like, well, magic.

>>125305246
I think it's implied in Anthony's quest that the various guns that Doomguy can use are "blessed" by demons and demon magic to give them their capabilities. That would explain why you need Forma to develop them.

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>>125305246
Play Soul Hackers then.

I DON'T WANNA TRY TO FIGHT THIS LOVE

ivf... when

>>125310146
February.

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>>125306014
LOOK AT YOU, HACKER.

Why does Aeon Genesis start projects and abandon them without actually saying they're abandoned?

Majin Tensei hasn't gotten an update in like 5 years.

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>>125307186
Find a flaw.

>>125312874
Has a dick.

>>125313005
That's a feature.

Are the Devil Children games worth playing? At least one was localized.

>>125289821
>still on Hamelin sneaking section
>game bought because younger brother saw lpers playing and he is mindless
>lost all interest in gane due to grind, ended up playing 1 SMT for months on end, he can't beat the sneaking section

How long do you hold off metamorphosis? I heard till max level but that seems long.

>>125313094
Sure it's not a bug?

*DIVINE SHOT*

>>125289821

Dark Cloud 2 is where it's at though. I might buy a console just for Dark Cloud 3.
I love Level 5, they make great RPG's. They really saved me when I got burned out on Sqeeunix. Fuck Sqeeunix.

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So i just beat Raidou 1. It was okay i guess, combat was kinda simple and repetitive, although i've heard 2 is a lot better for that. Music was pretty good too, pretty standard Meguro style.

Anything i should keep in mind going into 2?

What level is belial again? I'm currently grinding my way towards 40 and am at arround the 3:00 mark with 1 day remaining.

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>>125290459
That's because it's called The Legend of Zelda in burgerland and not Zeruda no Densetsu, you fucking retard.
The only problem I have with the title is the 真, faggots can argue for the Shin because of FatlusUSA being retards as usual but if you want to discuss other games of the franchise while being weeb enough to put the title in Japanese then omit the fucking 真.

Will we ever go to space again?

>>125319963
Any true SMT fan would appreciate MegaTen.

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>>125287434
Next time i'll add the pixie porn for reals.

>>125312874
Wasted potential in DDS2.

>>125313005
Not necessarily. Maybe she works kinda like worms.

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>>125318561
Raidou 2 has a better soundtrack, in my opinion, and more replayability. The gameplay is MUCH better and you can summon 2 demons, but the game is still easy.
It has a similar story to the first one but has better characters, with the exception of Rasputin.

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>>125324370
No Rasputin? Shame, he was best character.

I just did the tutorial and holy shit yea, the combat system is so much better, i like the boss theme too.

Difficulty (or lack thereof) doesnt really bother me, its not like any SMT is really challenging if you know what youre doing.

>>125324560
Also damn why do all female demons want Raidous dick so badly?

>>125298197
Someone read the Japanese novels Quantum Devil Saga and said that there was a scene where Serph Argilla and Heat have a threesome or something

http://youreameatball.tumblr.com/post/19111853960/re-everyone-asking-about-post19052461447

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>>125324714
It's because they haven't seen what's under that hat.

How do I stop DDS1 from freezing?

PCSX2 1.2.1 NTSC ISO

>>125324560
He's in 2. He just plays a really minor role.

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What are you hopes for what they do with YHVH in FINAL? Besides him actually showing up.

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>>125330643
I hope they make him into a meme

Wake up.

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>>125336417
Wake up doggy

>>125312353
Is the story worth knowing? The gameplay looks fine without knowing what's going on.

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perfect

>>125337864

Kek

Is a ps3 a good buy for someone who enjoys RPG genre? I'm not about to go out and buy a PS4 but a used PS3 might prove itself useful in the future plus I'd like to play the smts on psn and I'd like to get p5 when it comes out.

>>125300648
She is a type of nymph that lived in wooded valleys. Her name in Greek literally means ''wooded dell''

>>125339668
Just get a PS2 and save for a PS4. It's already gotten a price drop.

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>SMTIV = Similar to SMT1 and 2
>SMTIV Final = Similar to Nocturne

It took me some time.

Woke up to see the new trailer, this is some hype mainline shit.
There's no chance of mainline getting another silly OVA, but if it did, we'll have to bring back OVA Fridays.
Also was that a Megido that the Angel did?

>>125342770
>we'll have to bring back OVA Fridays.
Stream when

>>125342828
STREAM WHEN

>>125341617
More like
>SMTIV - similar to SMT1
>SMTV Final - similar to SMT2

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Can I talk about Persona 4 here?

>>125344318
While Persona is a subseries of Shin Megami Tensei, its popularity and the ideological differences between general SMT fans and fans of exclusively Persona 3/4 has led to the creation of its own general. You might want to go there instead. >>125159773

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>>125344859
But there's waifufaggotry in there and smtg/ is way more comfy.

>>125345008
There's nothing else to talk about concerning those games because its not like they have good stories.

>>125345008
I know anon.

Some of them are not that bad, but waifuwars are still a thing, so it could be hard to get a decent discusion going.
You're better off hoping that a decent thread on /v/ shows up.

>>125344318

The only allowed topics in /smtg/ are

-Hoy posting
-Hee hoes
-Why is SJ so shit
-YHVH bashing
-Mastema
-Why is the Final protag so edgy

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>>125345808
>>125346638
>>125346697
>tfw you asked the same thing about P3P a few months ago and was received with a positive response

>>125346860
Different people responding, anon.

All MegaTen games can be discussed here. Just don't be a waifufag.

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>>125346860
That's because P3>>>P4
Although I'm fine with some Persona discussion here, as long as it doesn't drag on more than necessary or it devolves into waifuposting.

For instance, I consider that it would be pretty interesting to see the Velvet Room attendants in a world of demons.

>>125344318
What do you want to talk about?

>>125345008
You sometimes gets nice discussion, i remember going there and BTFO some anons saying P3 protag being revived was an entirely plausible scenario.

Got nice responses while doing so.

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Picking up the KMT version of Megami Tensei for the first time in a couple of months.

Does anyone remember where the gem is in Sea of Flames that stops Lucifer from healing? I have Rick's Bracelet, I talked to the guy in Anfini, but I cannot remember where the room is with the bottomless vase.

>>125339668
>>125340412
you cant even play ps3 games on 4.

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>>125314793
Sorry for the late reply, went to bed. I'm basically just before where you are (I got right near the end of the game and burnt out, PS3 melted so I lost my original save, started again to gear up for the sequel), I've just gotten the ship again and now I'm milling around trying to catch the fucking manta ray familiar for the girl. Hamelin is when I really started to get bored, it's a slog for sure BUT - and that's a big but - after Hamelin, it gets good. Also there should be a spooky area coming up where you get Girlfiend, one of the coolest ghost familiars for Swaine. There's also a casino there, like proper Dragon Quest-style.

Don't bother holding off metamorphosis. Just don't. Yeah sure, if you level to 99 you get 50% of the stat gains for the evolved form (I'm 90% sure that's right, look it up) but why bother? There's no Demi-Fiend-as-he-appears-in-DDS boss in the game. Just evolve when you learn all your moves, otherwise the game will burn you out to the point where you'll never play it again. Like I said, a good idea (levelling higher grants more stat gains) hindered by poor design (getting to level 99 takes exactly as long as you think it does, why fucking bother).

>>125346860
As long as no one bring faggoty Chie posting here, I don't care.

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>>125346697
- gideon bashing

>>125346860
Ignore the faggots. Just don't get too waifu and you can Persona 4 your heart out. That being said, I think Yukiko's SL was shit. Just like her. And her Persona final design

>>125356552
I wish I could find some Megaten phone charm stuff that wasn't outrageously priced.

>>125330643
Honestly, I don't know. Hopefully something more nuanced than just being a boss. I'm worried about final's apparent "all the endings are just forms of neutral" thing that sounds like all the endings will be boring as hell. If anarchy means just kill the gods, and peace means let them live, but tell them not to live on earth, neither of those sound very interesting. They should really revisit mastema's sketchy argument that god is secretly neutral that was vaguely hidden in IV but never expanded on. It would be interesting if he showed up as an actual figure you could kind of side with. Seeing as how last time in II, even on law you couldn't. So "every ending is neutral" now might be hinting that once again you can't.

>>125346860
P3 >>>> P4. Honestly, I don't really care. If you ask gameplay questions and stuff like that sure but please no waifu shit since.

>>125356552
>I think Yukiko's SL was shit
90% of the SLs in P4 are shitty not that P3 is much or any better. The only decent ones are Dojima's, Kanji's and Ai's.

>>125357829
I know, but hers just really bugged me for some reason.

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>>125358471
Yukiko's the worst one, yeah. It's like a special type of shitty. I kinda like her design and some of her quirks but fuck her personality and SL.

>>125358690
She's dull as dishwater. An overly-responsible girl, you say? In my Japanese role playing game? Shocker.

Also, what the fug, 4chan. Don't die on me.

>>125359030
An overly-responsible girl that doesn't what to be overly-responsible, oh, but wait, she actually is an overly-responsible girl.

>4chan. Don't die on me
I'm having problems too. Mootwo is fucking up 4chan again.

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>>125359030
>She's dull as dishwater.
While I agree with her being fucking boring and has a shitty as fuck SL, she's still the least annoying of the bunch. I swear that only her and Kanji didn't get on my nerves. Naoto, Chie and fucking Teddie can burn in the pits of hell.

>>125359907
Why is Naoto even so popular? is it just because muh reverse trap?

>>125346697
I just got back because of FINAL hype, what is this SJ is shit thing going on? Is it hated because /v/ likes it now? Are people treating it as the new Nocturne?

>>125360139
>Why is Naoto even so popular?
I don't understand at all either. She doesn't contribute anything for the plot, parrots everything the main cast has done for the entire game, is an incompetent as fuck detective and has a superiority complex. Her design is ok, I guess.
So that leaves her battle stats/skills, which she's actually pretty good for normal battles, and her reverse trap trait.

>>125360352
It's mainly shitposting. It's true that SJ was sort of becoming the new Nocturne though, it was generally spoken of as the best SMT game, so contrarian shitposting was bound to happen.

>>125360632
That's so weird, I thought all the mainlines were treated pretty well. SMT2 was usually regarded as the best last time I was here.
If I may ask, what is everyone's favorite non-mainline MT game? Does anyone else really like Persona 1?

>>125360139
>is it just because muh reverse trap?
ding ding ding

>>125360632
>it was generally spoken of as the best SMT game
This was generally forced after SMT IV came out.

There was no SJ-focused shitposting until after that came out and SJ screenshot-anon and others began spamming the general with SJ worship.

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>>125360961
>I thought all the mainlines were treated pretty well
Where the hell have you been? I've seen at least one post criticizing all SMT games, mainline or not.

>what is everyone's favorite non-mainline MT game?
DDS, also my favorite SMT game.

>Does anyone else really like Persona 1?
I love it. Tied as my favorite Persona game with P3. I personally love the story, characters, gameplay and both PS1 and PSP OSTs. I'm actually thinking in buying it for my Vita to replay during Christmas holidays.

>>125360139
Because the game hypes her as some sort of cool mysterious rival for the main characters until she joins the party and becomes dull and boring. It disappointed me, I really like her character design though.

>>125360961
>I thought all the mainlines were treated pretty well.
In general they are, but they've all had their share of shitposting.

>>125362040
>>125361338
There's always flaws in every game of course, but I've never seen like outright hatred barring complaints on how archaic some are. Dang.
And hell yeah man, P1 was what got me into dungeon crawlers and MegaTen, so it's probably one of my favorite games ever. Loved the injokes too, like Reiji and his magic tricks.

>>125361171
>SJ screenshot-anon
Man i really want to get back to it but i lost my screen cap folder.

Might replay SJ just for that.

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>>125362241
>but I've never seen like outright hatred barring complaints on how archaic some are. Dang
I've seen a couple of posters or some guy samefagging saying that SMT I and II are irrelevant, story-wise. Not sure if it was here or on /v/ though.

>so it's probably one of my favorite games ever.
It was my biggest surprise in the SMT games, to be honest. Since everyone and their dog shat on it and say that P2/P3/P4 is the best, I didn't have much expectations about it. It's probably the best Persona game in terms of gameplay, atmosphere and dungeon design.

>>125360139
Because she's rumored to have huge tits which Atlus has never fulfilled

Give me boobs or give me death

>>125364230
>Because she's rumored to have huge tits which Atlus has never fulfilled
The true ending of Golden basically shows that she has a medium sized rack. No bigger than Yukiko or Rise or Chie.

>>125355969
Thanks anon, gonna go grab that op dino and go through the rest.


Do you generally use preferred genus? Ended up mixing at that point.

>>125365932
I know, it's lame as fuck.

>>125367127
>lame as fuck.
Are you talking about the ending or P4 as a whole?

>>125367514
Everything

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Has there ever been any demon/human cross breeding in any of the SMT games? Or references to it?

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>>125367581
>Everything
Fair enough.

>>125367696

Yeah, Jimenez' little demon buddy was a cross-breed.

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>>125367696
The closest I've seen is human-demon fusion. I don't think it's ever been explored before, but that might be because it's just not possible and they haven't taken it any farther than that. It would be interesting, but how would it even work?

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>>125368151
That's more of a test tube baby experimentation deal. I wouldn't really call it cross breeding so much as injecting genetic material. We've never seen anything come of a man putting his dick in a Nekomata

Is it "I AM HEAVEN ABOVE OUTSIDE YOU", or, "I AM THE BUG INSIDE YOU"? Did Atlus even know what they were doing when they made the lyrics for Nocturne?

>>125368720
>implying Meguro isn't smoking some heavy shit and listening to Mozart while writing the lyrics

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What piece of Soul Hackers-related literature is this from? I think there's actually a few SH mangas so I'm not sure which one this is.

>>125369348
>The URL doesn't refer to an image or the image is not publicly accessible.
what the fuck

>>125368151
I thought it was more of an experiment type deal.

>>125368329
Well, some demons literally fuck humans in the first place as part of their lore, it's just that whether or not there are crossbreed results.

>>125358690
Yeah, I don't have a problem with her character design... or probably any in the game.

I think I might've liked her more if I didn't do her SL. That's.. kind of fucked up.

P4 = rich kid problems

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>>125359907
I like Kanji and old lady Chie is OK. She's generic as fuck tho. Like, so is Yuki, but at least she has a temporary lapse from it.

>>125360139
I like Naoto's girl voice more, same with depressed Rise. I'm pretty sure the fandom would kill me.

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>>125366954
Yep, that dinosaur one is broken as hell. I'm grabbing him ASAP, you have to get the dragon to catch him tho, don't you? I can't remember. I'm keeping to best genus' at the moment, but I can't remember what the upsides of that is. You have to wait until party member 4 to be able to use the mini/demon/sprite genus' properly, gah.

>>125359907
>>125359457
>An overly-responsible girl that doesn't what to be overly-responsible, oh, but wait, she actually is an overly-responsible girl.
Kek, hit the nail on the head there. I can't stand those submissive, meek, waifu-bait females you sometimes find in nipponese games. Gimme a Bayo or a Kaine anyday of the week. I can see why the nips would love Alisha and hate Rose in Zesty, for example, Rose burps out loud! In front of men! Haha, I can imagine their fury But yeah, the characters in P4 are fairly generic outside of Kanji. He's probably my fave. I would've liked Naoto to stay a male desu, he would've been cuter that way.

>>125361338
>I'm actually thinking in buying it for my Vita to replay during Christmas holidays.

Are you gonna play as the girl, you fucking faggot
I just remember people suggesting it a few threads ago I want to buy it too, but I don't want to pay over $10

>>125372157

Agreed on Kanji.

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>>125364230
>>125365932

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Just finished P2EP. What an miserable ending, he didn't deserve this. I was hoping he would at least go to the shrine so he can reforge his friendship with Jun,Eikichi and Lisa. I'm glad Nyarl was banished to hell.

Wasn't Philemon supposed to be the last boss?

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>>125367696
This is all I can think of, but I haven't played most of them

>slowfag

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>>125372725
>I was hoping he would at least go to the shrine so he can reforge his friendship with Jun,Eikichi and Lisa

Isn't that the bad ending

>tfw no desire to ever finish EP

>>125372157
>I would've liked Naoto to stay a male desu, he would've been cuter that way.

You. I agree with you wholeheartedly. And maybe he'd get an actual interesting backstory as a male.

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Naoto is a poor man's Sailor Mercury.

>>125373274
>P4
>Interesting backstory
Sorry bud the good writing building is 3 blocks down

>>125374058
In Persona 1?

>>125374370
Yes, a game that actually has backstory for characters both in the main story, smalltalk, and as part of replayability

>>125372929
Hot

>>125372725
>Wasn't Philemon supposed to be the last boss?
He's the boss of the EX Dungeon in EP.

>>125372929
>hot date with Loki
>having sex
>realize he's walking out the door
>stick of dynamite in your pussy

>>125374580
>I shit my pants so now I'm the class clown

>>125369348
>Raidou blushing in the background
What a cutie.

>>125379117
haha, yeah, I don't think the characters are very deep. But I don't personally find it a problem for the game.

>>125379117
At least they're not bizarre shit like "I hate living in a small town" or "I dressed up like a boy to pretend to be a cop"

Which is why Kanji is the only good P4 character because he's at least relateable on some level

>>125380450
>I hate living in a small town

You clearly have never lived in one. It's shit.

>>125380450
living in a small town is considered bizarre shit compared to Brown's character literally being "i shit my pants"
/smtg/ never fails to impress

>>125381008
I think they meant on the level of having legit "issues"

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>>125373274
I dunno if it would've made his backstory more interesting, but man. You don't just bring a Raidou-looking motherfucker into my Persona, and then gender switch at the last minute (it was a suprise to me when I started getting it was a girl). I mean, how else am I gonna play Raidou? In his own third game that will never exist?

>this kills the /smtg/

>>125381860
Dyke-chan is cuter.

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>>125382115
I don't like how fans seem to try to push her as Kuzunoha

>>125372714
S-Sauce?

>>125383609
The wiki. It's from the Detective Naoto light novels.

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>>125372725
>>125373267
>>125376469
I think its an appropriate time to post this gif.

>>125384135
Why is he such a dick v P1

>>125384135
I decked him too. He deserved it.

>>125372725
There's more than one ending? Lisa, Jun and Michel appeared in the shrine but Tatsu didn't.

>>125384672
meant for >>125373267

I love replying to me myself.

>>125380629
Maybe if you hate people

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Is it okay when Flynn does it?

>>125385783
Christ I hope he's not a brooding faggot.

EP made me dislike Tatsuya.

>>125386103
EP made me dislike Maya

>>125386584
Did EP serve any purpose other than to continue the universe?

>>125385783
localization annoucement when?

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Donald Trump is the protagonist of your favorite Megaten game. How does this change it?

>>125386720
In a month.

>>125387037
He gets raped and killed by Slimes

>>125387168
>Implying he wouldn't build a wall around Tokyo

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>>125387037
He sides with Algon Soft, only for Rei and Debisama to kill him later.

>>125386720
You know its coming to the US

>>125386690
Money.

>>125387590
yeah but it hasn't announced yet. I'm just impatient

>>125386720
When they release devil summoner for the PSP.

>>125387491
Famed Trump would make a pretty rad boss desu

>>125387936

which is after EP PSP

>>125387037
Creates his own reason under Orcus, the Great Wall.
G*d bless!

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>>125387406
>implying that would do a difference

>>125387950
>He turns into a mexican mara
>"Trump was the mexicans all along.

>>125385783
>Cheats demons and harasses them for money while smirking
I hope Flynn is a dick.

>>125389045
>Vile Trump
Or
>Demon Lord Trump

>>125355595
There are more great (subjectively) RPGs on the PS2.

Anybody know where I could find a SMT II PSX poster?

>>125391693
>not Godly Trump

>>125382559
Wait there's a game of Kindaichi's case files? (I have no idea if the title's translated like that in English)

>>125391693
Deity.

>>125391693
Majin Trump

Which kanji reading? You deicide.

>>125392348
I found it by Googling, it's a DS game like Phoenix Wright apparently. Someone patched it this summer.

I would find the link for you again, but I'm sick so I don't want to. If you can't find it based on what I said, I will.

>>125393204
>deicide
ONE MORE GOD REJECTED

>>125391693
Trump will be the New York City equivalent of Masakado in SMT V.

>>125393992
I actually cannot wait for Emperor Trump

>>125367696
Literally Dante

>>125393204
-DEICIDE FOR YOURSELF-

Dehumanize and face to bloodshed

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DEEP
PSYCHOLOGICAL
TRAUMA

>>125401421
if he was referring to blasted tokyo then yes.

It was me! I was the one who put 真・女神転生 in to the subject field! Ha ha ha!

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>>125404041

>>125404041
You lie. I know for a fact because it was me!

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>>125381860
Callback or coincidence?

>>125404041
>>125404727
Why would you guys lie in the internet? It was my bright idea to do it.

>>125405070
It uses the same letters/whatever, but that's all that is noted.

>>125343769
>IV - combination of 1 and 2
>Final - combination of 2 and Nocturne

>>125405446
Imposter!

>>125404041
>>125405446
>>125406971
Blow me, kids.

>>125387037
>Get to play as the guy funding Jack's Squad

Chill out in a tiny pocket dimension with my pilfered demon riches while Mem Aleph rips the rest of humanity a new asshole the circumference of which encompasses the entire earth.

That is, until Jimenez shows up.

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>no beast Leviathan
>no holy Behemoth
>no avian Ziz
What are some demons you'd like to see in Final, /smtg/?

Level 55, just finished the obelisk, need a healer demon. Using a Jinn ready to evolve but that's for my Red Rider. Any suggestions?

>>125411685
Ravana with new artwork I think FFXIV did well with making him

Brahman making a mainline appearance, although I forget if he shows up in SMT 1 or 2.

Satan again yfw Satan is the guy with the spear.

>>125412126
Djinn evolves into Efreet. You can buy another from the compendium after it evolves for Red Rider if you want.

>>125411685

Eligor and Berith.

>>125412235
Yeah, but was hoping for something a bit more optimal

>>125367696
In demikids didn't lucifer and michael have human kids?

>>125412235
The guy with the spear isn't cool enough to be satan. Satan should actually look like zayin.

>>125412384
Bump for advice

>>125412384
Daisoujou is pretty broken, you will have to level him though. I think Titania is around that level do you might want to get her.

>>125416356
I have a daisoujou, he has all his skills.

Also, I cannot get the tunnel in Asakusa to open and I can't find any help on Google. I'm missing something and can't figure out what. I've talked to those guys about their reasons and beaten the first three rider fiends