/dsg/ - Dark Souls General

old thread >>124980304

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first for weapons I would like to use, but would probably get softbanned for

Shit i fucked up the subject.

fuck it nobody prolly cares

First for hackers still being in DaS

I want to have sex with the Foll's Idol.

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Bloodborne > Souls

>>125066271
CoD > Bloodbourne

>>125066350
Barbie Dreamhouse Party > CoD

>>125066546
Seven Kingdoms 2 > Barbie Dreamhouse Party.

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Evening /dsg/. How are you all doing?

I'm bored and just got my christmas bonus from work. About to buy and play AotA for the first time on a new character. What build benefits most from it and has the most fun? Caster for the spells or melee/pyro for the weapons?

>>125066350
is bloodbourne technically a shooter

>>125066727
Mount and Blade: Warband > Seven Kingdoms 2

>>125066739
Their resistances are so high to elements that regular damage is the only way to do it without tearing your hair out. Even good elemental damage with great to no split damage fair terribly. I found leo ring builds to excel there.

>>125066739
It really depends on your playstyle, if you have fun dancing around giving quick strikes go melee. If you like waiting for openings to spell dump boss go mage.

good luck with the mage thing though, Arty is faster than most bosses.

>>125066901
Supreme Commander > Warband.

first playthrough
killed queelag, second bell done

The closed place opened
Should I go the skeletons cemetery, the place in the forest that opens with the 20.000 souls key from the smith or demon ruins before going to the new place that opened?

>>125066862
I don't think so, it's more of an Rpg fantasy game that a TPS.

>>125066901
ET: The Extra-terrestrial > Mount and Blade: Warband

>>125066907
Cool, I was thinking about running a spear or Balder SS anyway. Probably wind up with an Artorias cosplay because he gives me a huge chub.

>>125067026
Is a hybrid build viable so I can play with the tracers as well? I don't plan on PVPing or anything, so.

>>125067085
New place, you need something from there to open up alot of the map's bosses.

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PLZ SEND HALP

>>125067323
>Nuage toxique
>Fiole d'Estus
>running away

Typical.

>>125067323
>all dat movement blur

>>125067183
Yeah, should work. just watch the orbs coming at you.

>>125067578
Dope. Will do friendo, thanks.

Any good character sliders for DaS2? I never liked how mine turn out.

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>>125067323

>>125066772
i have a boner

>>125065514
>implying people play des

>>125068529
Sure, as soon as it comes to PS4.

recommendations for 300k sm pvp builds, sl68?

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My instinct tells me it's a trap.

>>125068746
Hit it.

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so im pretty new to this game, got in sale a week or two ago

how am i doing on a starter run? someone said to get 99 agi to make rolling easier

i've beaten dragonman, and dragonslayer man, the giant under the stairs and the bloke with the big sword and he floats and shit

i like the look of my armour, is there a shield? (i'll post a better picture from the front) that goes with it?

also, i want a long range weapon, what'd be good? don't wanna put to many stats into it, is the light crossbow good till later on in the game?

also is it worth upgrading my armour?

>>125068646
pc*

>>125068990
Fuck you, I know what I said.

A nigga can dream.

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>>125068943
from the front. found a royal shield, but shits ugly

>>125068819
See >>125067323 for what happened next.

>>125068943
>>125069130
are you on vanilla DaS2 or SOTFS?

>>125067085
go to the graveyard. 2hand a mace if you can, r2 flatten the skellies. after you beat the boss head back up.
>>125068990
>Demon’s Souls: Old Dream of the Abyssal Sin
i can almost taste it

>>125068943
>mfw i read 99 agi as 99 adp
Jesus christ.

Light Cbow is fine for 'long range' encounters.
As far as i'm aware there's no standard knight's shield. There is however a royal kite shield.

Yes, it's worth upgrading your armor.

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Would someone help a fellow Undead out with Kalameet?
SL75, Europe

>>125069254
i'm softs

>>125069615
Im surprised you even bothered to use the branch to get the knight's armor

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>>125065514
>enter demons into the search
>/dsg/ isn't there
I was pretty upset

DeS Webm for the sake of DeS

>>125070660
DeS is shit. Even DSP agrees.

>>125070660
>Moonlight greatsword

That weapon made me so fucking rock hard.

Wait, is ADP not a good stat to invest in? I'm SL 85 and I have it at 23. I was told it's one of the most important ones and helps you roll and attack better. I've been focusing on that, END and DEX.

>>125071052

DS2, btw.

Also, when can I get some cool ninja armor? I'm about to take on the Iron Keep.

In DS1, I used the Shadow set + Mask of the Child with Uchigatana. I'm trying to go for a similar build.

>>125071194
lewd

>>125070660
I always typed dsg for looking up the thread.

>>125071194
Would.

>>125070063
i like it, i like the chest plate comapred to the other nights armour

>>125071194
I'd fuck it

After i killed it

>>125071450
Way to be, anon.

>>125070967
To be honest, while the projectile is cool in the other souls games, I really like going through people's shields like the "Moonlight greatsword" in DeS does.

>>125071565
Friendly reminder that Bloodborne's final boss uses the moonlight greatsword.

And that it hurts.

Guys, I'm getting tired of the "bed of Chaos is a shit boss" meme. can we finally admit it's the best boss in the series?

where do i go from harvel's rest (the bonfire in Grave of Saints after falling from the pit in majula) to get to the dragon sanctum? Do I have to keep falling into the gutter?

>>125072378
Nah, Shit boss m8. Even the chained berserkers in oolacile would be a better boss than that thing.

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>>125072480
Somebody had to reply.

>>125072451
>going down
>Dragon sanctum
What.

>>125072514
>can't shitpost to bait
Eh
>inb4 i trolled you hard

>>125072172
Ludwig isn't the final boss

>>125072663
He is because my PS4 died after I killed him.

What is the apex magic shitter build in Dark Souls?

Crystal and black magic with crown and ring of dusk?

>>125072946
dusk crown, bellowing dragoncrest ring, crystal soul spear, dark bead, pursuers

>>125072946
It's one of the dragon rings and crown of dusk. Ring of dusk give double casts but half hp.

>>125072657
majula>gutter>gulch>shulva>sanctum
??

>>125073073
Yeah, i'm retarded. Anyways, kill rotten take key behind the PBF and go to shulva for dragon sanctum.

I was thinking of dragon shrine.

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is this where they make wheel skelingtons

Woah. Fucking spoopy.

Does the body near the portal imply that Dusk died?

>>125073725
she fucking dead

>>125074738
Oh...

B-But Elizabeth said I can still save her.

>>125074979
Have you ever known mushrooms to be smart, anon?

pursuer is a beginners trap if there ever was one, good thing he fucks off after the first time he flies in

>>125075718
I DUNNO BUT FUCKING KALAMEET I SWEAR TO GOD BRO

a fuccboi soaring high in the sky
not visible to the naked eye

>>125076703
Talk to gough after dying to kalameme.

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with these stats am i better off keeping my longsword +6 lightning, or making it back to normal

>Exhaust all his dialgoue
>His Human
>Benhart is not appearing in the Giant Lord fight

Wut?

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>be wary of giant but hole

>>125077345

NVM just remembered that I am in the covenant of champ

>>125077345
He has to have survived three fights.

>>125071052
do you 360 noscope sick skillz roll every boss? then adp is the most important stat in the game

>>125077735
>amazing chest ahead

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Rate my cancerbuild.

The plan is to try to nail the enemy with magic and surprise him with pyromancies if that doesnt work. Storm of Chaos is just the emergency plan.

The falchion is GOAT pvp weapon, spamming R1 and stunning most opponents.

Got invaded in the bell tower by an invincible red spirit.
After a while managed to knock him off the small bridge and kill him.
Did this one more time and felt like a champ.
He invaded a third time and I hurriedly alt4'd so I could quit while ahead.

I git gud for a brief moment.

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>before backstabbing me through the chest, he then become invunrable to all my hits, before backstabbing my front again, and then hitting from half a mile away

t-thansk

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>>125066772

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>>125071194

Guoh needs to do more Souls art.

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>>125066862
Only if you're playing the best build

>>125077258
Keep it normal. Lightning is generally reserved for Faith builds.

>go to the area though the skeleton basement in forest of the fallen giants with a new character
>get invaded by NPC
>run off because my soul arrows are not doing shit
>keep running back to Majula because fuck it but blocked by fog
>force to either die or walk all the way back and find the guy

Really? A normal invader would eventually give up but NPCs just stay there forever? I don't really like the invasion system for 2, for 1 it seemed to be a risk/reward system for unhollowing and the NPC invasions were not way overdone like in 2.

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Fucking brutal.

Aside from the standard messages everyone's seen, what are the best messages you've come across /dsg/?

how do I make a magic run in DkS2 not be boring as shit

I tried pure sorcery and got tired of it

I haven't played Dark Souls 2 in a long while, none of the dlc either. Thinking about getting the scholar thing for PC but had some questions.
Are some of the armor sets still super grindy and you have to use ascetics to get them. Like the Catarina stuff or the visible version of that invisible armor or the ruin stuff or the stuff that drops from Merciless Ronda.? The last time I played I wanted the slutty sorceress shirt and killed them all to the point of not respawning and didn't get it.
Is the online alive or dead now that memeborne is out?

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>>125079208
>try using both hands

>>125082295
Most armor sets are still grindy, but you can get Catarina and both Aurous sets without grinding now.

>>125082001
Try a spellsword with hexes.That's fun shit.

>>125081719
the skeleton in the lava pot in Iron Keep
"Skeleton, be wary of lava."

>>125081719
In the cave where you first find Ornifex, I think there was a message that said "Try circling around and then hurrah for gorgeous view!"

Just finished das1, felt amazing. Going to play through DasII on pc. Any essential mods I need to get, like dasfix for das1? watchdog, perhaps?

>>125082694

The mod of not playing it because it's shit and not canon.

Play Bloodborne or if you can't wait for DaS III

>>125082694
no, anything you install will get you softbanned

Is there a bonfire immediately before the Artorias fight? Or do I have to keep running all the way from Sanctuary?

>>125082792
Yeah ive played like 3 hours of Das II and im not really amazed, I just want to play through it to see what its like and I need to get my $20 worth

>>125082841
Aside from the elevator shortcut, that's all you get.

is there a way to attract the knight next to the Pharis bow archer in the forest?
I cant find him to attract him and taking him out

>>125082517
Thanks. Can you make enemies keep respawning without using ascetics now?
I have autism and have to get every item in the game.

>>125083059
Enemies that respawn will respawn forever when you're in the covenant of champions. Enemies that only spawn once still require ascetics.

>>125083059
Company of champions covenant
Don't forget your agape ring otherwise your Soul Memory will inflate like a balloon

>>125083193
>>125083231
Thanks familia, I don't care too much about pvp or coop.

>>125083365
I don't think that meme is very nice, actually

>>125082998
Oh well, got him my second try anyway. That's a good ass humanoid fight.

Alright Dark Souls 2 sucks but I heard the DLCs are better
Where do I find them?

>>125083687
after big lava demon
after big corpse blob
shrine of winter

>>125082694

Deadzone fix if you're using a controller.

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>>125084026
>>125083925
>>125083749
>>125083365
>>125082992
Jesus fucking christ you autistic fucks.

>>125081719
My favourite will always be listen carefully, skeleton.

>>125081719
Look up, bug
in a house in No Man's Wharf where you can see bugged out textures from it's unexistant second floor flipping the fuck out.

>>125081719
Anything wheel + Gavlan related
"Be wary of wheel"
"Wheel required ahead"
"Charmer ahead, therefore weakness: wheel"

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Am I missing anything for a first playthrough?

How about this is it any good?
http://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls/mods/268/

http://pastebin.com/bkeaFBbv mostly going off of this

>>125081719
Life... Death...

In the ancient dragon memory.

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>>125081719
saw this just now
like woah man

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>>125071194
Capra Demon is best demon

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>>125085018

You think the mugenmonkey guy will ever make the DkS2 character builder as useful as the DkS1 one? I mean I doubt that DkS2 is going to get any balance patches so it's not like he has to worry about his work being invalidated anymore.

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>>125085018
>>125085363

>>125084935
Holy shit dude, yes, that's enough just go play the game.
Also, much better textures here http://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls/mods/446/?

>>125085423
I can live with it the way it is right now. All I wish for is a nice, working wiki, without reddit pseudo-science.

Is there a reason I fail to invade with the blue eye orb literally every time? It's failed at least 15 times consecutively for me.

>>125085870
It'd be nice to have an up to date armor optimizer though, maybe I'll try to figure out lua and grab items stats at some point with CE.

>>125065018
Does coop work very well on the PC version of DaS1? I saw there was a mod to make connecting to friends easier, but I also saw that it doesn't work with steamworks. So does steam's online work well enough? Im about to try doing coop with a friend.

>>125085870
>play runescape
>use the runescape.wikia
>it has literally every bit of information conceivable on everything
>people autistically figure out the drop rate for items and such
>try to use other wikis like dark souls one
>still has missing images, doesn't list everything fully, tables for gear are broken
Why isn't every fanbase as autistic as the runescape one? It would make wikis much more helpful.

>>125085797
Are those textures good I thought I saw someone mention they were not very good because they changed the style of some of the areas too much

>>125086265
I think the main issue is that there are three wikis.

>>125086370
>they changed the style of some of the areas too much
Also known as faggots. If you want a high quality texture mod, this is the better option no matter what. The rest is about what SFX and FPS limit you can handle.

>>125086552
ok thanks

>>125086265
What >>125086394 said.
This game has three wikis for some shitty reason. I would be happy if the guys from wikia and wikidot would get together and just make one big thing.
Anyways, I always prefer wikidot over any other of the two options.

>>125086258
Anyone? I found something called Tunngle that this one page was saying makes coop easy. Im wondering if its safe to use or if it helps.

>>125086394
There's also 3 wikis for DS1, and they're not that bad. The problem with the DS2 wikis is, as silly as this may sound, reddit.

I don't know why, but DS2 reddit is absurdly cancerous, they literally have wiki wars.

>>125086394

Wikia is dead. Fextralife is shit. We should just focus on wikidot.

>>125086845
I prefer Fextralife. If we really want do anything about it we should ignore Fextralife, I'm sure they're making money off of everyone's work.

>>125086845
Christ Chasm of the Abyss makes TotG look like fucking Chuck E. Cheese in spooky factor.

>>125087081
Didn't mean to reply.

>>125084963
I don't get it.

>>125086845
I mostly use wikidot for info as well. Only thing I use fex for is the armor page.

Wikia has a bit of lore in most pages, which is nice, even if some of it is wrong.

>>125087067
I just hate fextralife because its formatting is god awful on cellphones and for some reason for dark souls 2 it was always first on google. Made looking up shit at my friend's house a pain in the ass

>>125081719
visions of fatty, but not here! by the sunlight covenant

the ones referencing sotfs changes are stupid but I smile every time

>>125087318
2deep4u

I want more ds3 leaks. Think there will be any new weapon types? DaS2 didn't have very many.

>This is the same Auto Crossbow used by Guts in the Berserk manga

Wikidot on Sanctum Repeating Crossbow.

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Should I go for 50 faith or 40 dex next? I'm already steamrolling everything and keep acquiring souls that I don't even feel like I need to spend.

>>125087690
What weapon types are they missing that still fit the setting and tone?

>>125087953
>going above 40

>>125088124
I was thinking about getting sunlight spear in NG+, which requires 50 faith?

>>125088045
Flail. Oh god I want one so badly. The only fucking game I can even think of that has a flail is Runescape. It's a travesty.

>>125088349
Fuck, I always wanted one was well. There's something similar that the small gyrms use, I think it's an anvil with a chain.

>>125082792
What's this about it not being canon? Confirmed that DaS3 won't reference DaS2 at all?

>>125082919
You don't need any mods. Just play it. It's fun for a while. I got 30 hours out of it before getting bored so it's not a bad game by any means.

I managed to get the pharis bow and hat.
What is after the covenant cat in the forest?

>>125087953
Don't go 50 faith, with a dragonslayer build you're already going to have to overlevel.
http://mmdks.com/7tlo

>>125088907
The grave of some bastard that took credit for someone else's work.

>wanna make a bell themed character with the bellbro set + bellhelm + chime hammer
>won't get any invades if I go through the trouble

>>125089129
can the cat summon me if I am hollow or not wearing its ring? first playthrough dont really understand covenants much.

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>farming red titanite chunks in shit izalith
REEE
REEEEEEEEEE

>>125082792
>because it's shit

Hence why you and everyone in this thread has 100+ hours in in.

Christ get a grip. Nobody is impressed by you shitting on DaS2 endlessly in this thread.

>>125088986
nice, thanks. guess I'll go dex before faith because I don't have weapon buffs yet and it gives more damage per point

is the fight with the wolf optional?
I regret joining the cat covenant if after all I will have to desecrate Artoria's tomb.

>>125089573
I have like 48 hours into it, finished it once but it's an ugly game so never bohered more into it.
Right now playing the DLC but it's nothing that had changed my mind tho

>>125088836
>Confirmed that DaS3 won't reference DaS2 at all?
You got meme'd
They're working to tie the lore of both games but with luck we won't hear directly about DaSII in 3

>>125090030
It's not optional. You need something you'll find there.

>>125089415
IIRC forest covenant works anywhere regardless of your human status as long as you have the ring on.

>>125090030
Is not optional, you need his item drop, but it doesn't break the covenant

>>125087846
I hate when people put in useless crap like that.

>>125087846
Not anymore.

is is matchmaking on the ps3 just fucking terrible or is it my internet

>>125091007
What game? Das2 is dying even on pc.

>>125091369
Das2. Keeps on telling me "unable to join multiplayer session" and what not.

Which i CAN get some multiplayer going it works great, which makes it even odder.

>>125086793
There's a fix for the online and it is extremely stable now that it's on steamworks instead of GFWL. It's also just about as active as DaSII.

>>125091489
Its not odd. You're trying to pvp with people through a convoluted, fragmented matchmaking system on a 1 generation old console in a dying game.

>>125082792
DaSII isn't shit, it's just not as good as DeS and DaSI. Which is to be expected since it was rushed as fuck and had a different director.

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>tfw running through shulva to get to sanctum for flynn's ring
>tfw only sl76

>>125092026
That isn't a good excuse. You can explain why someone became a drug addict, that doesn't absolve them from being one or make them less of one.


And if the problem was it just being meh compared to the other games it wouldn't be so bad, but it has way too many jarring problems.

Not the anon you were replying to.

>>125092026
>different director.
A director they they had to kick off half way though and replace with a less terrible one

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Sure wonder what the hell happened there.

They all died at the exact same time.

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>strength build

why are the mushrooms so cute
they try to charge you and trip, they try to mimic the bigger ones and throw a hook at you but it barely does anything and they make this heartbreaking little noise when they die
I feel so bad about killing them ;_;

Where do I go to get invaded in DaS1? I'm level 50 right now and haven't had anyone invade me my entire playthrough.

I played the shit out of DaS2 previously (400+ hours on steam) but haven't really touched DaS1 much, and I wanna try out PvP but not like DaS2 tryhard blood covenant style.

>>125093674
don't feel too bad, BSS is boring and shit honestly

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>>125092471
wew lad

>>125093478
If you touch one bloodstain all the nearby bloodstains are activated, and since they all start at the same time before death, they all die at the same time

>>125094126
at your SL, probably anor londo
but you're 2 years too late

>>125071221

Anybody?

>>125094126
Anor Londo or the forest.

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>>125087081
I really hope we get to see more Abyss in DaS3

>>125091369

I don't really have trouble invading/summoning on the 360.

>>125094628
maybe not so boring next time

>>125085018

Capra demons look so fucking cool. They really nailed the design.

>>125094567
You can buy the Black Leather set from Gillian in Eathen Peak. Also, in the same area, Manikin set.

There's also Shadow set from suspicious shadows on No Man's Wharf, Earthen Peak and Lost Bastille, if you're playing SOTFS.

>>125087403
There's some script on fextralife's pages that slows my browser down and eventually crashes it if i leave it open for a long time. not sure if it's the ads.

>>125071052
ADP is good to get your AGL to 100.

>>125095145

Their ads have malware sometimes. I hope you're running an adblocker.

>>125094926

Aw man, is the shadow set only in SOTFS?

I've got the black leather armor set, but it doesn't look nearly as awesome as the shadow set from Dark Souls 1.

Currently, I'm using Penal Mask + Drangleic Gauntlets + Drangleic Boots. Shirtless so I can still fast roll. Looks cool enough for now. Also, I bought the Uchigatana from the Blacksmith in Lost Bastille, so I'm pretty happy about that.

I have to say, I wasn't expecting much from Dark Souls 2 because of how much people shit on it, but I'm having a blast so far. I'm enjoying it just as much as the first one, and it's shaping up to be right there alongside it in my top ten list. The only area I found really annoying was Iron Keep (which I just finished), but it's just because I lost my cool. I'm not using a walkthrough, so far I've only come to you guys for help with finding cool armor.

>>125095286
99*

>>125081719
"hole" in Shaded Woods
There was a fucking hole in the ground where two walls encountered each other, they forgot to put some more ground on it

>>125095393
You can get shadow set in vanilla but it's retarded. You have to use an ascetic on Flexile Sentry, which adds shadows to the boss fight for you to farm.

>>125094825
Chasm was breddy good m8

>>125095393
>is the shadow set only in SOTFS

No, In you can get the Shadow set in ng+ during the Flexile Sentry boss, two Suspicious Shadows will show up, and they drop the set plus some other items.

The Shadow set is quite different than the DS1 version, you should take a look at it, and if you really want you can use a bonfire ascetic on Flexile.

>people's face when idling in iron keep

seriously why would you do that RIGHT next to the fiery death lava

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>>125095831
imagine i posted this

>>125092716
I'm not saying it's a good excuse, I'm just chalking it up to what happened. There's no excuse for releasing a subpar game for $60, especially when it could have been much better given more time.

tranquil walk of peace is fucking amazing, nobody can deal with it

>>125094216
You have a great hammer. Why in the fuck did you complain about Shulva?

>>125082001
1st playthrough, I just started powerstancing blue flames recently.

It's pretty fun, you gain a wide horizontal swipe (L1) and a strong attack (L2) capable of matching fat weapons, in additional to the ability to cast spells.

However, I'm starting to feel like my stats are far too spread out between VIG, END, ATN, ADP and INT.

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Post yfw DaS3 has a good selection of fully viable covenansts to pick from

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What the fuck do I level up? I'm so fucking lost when it comes to builds.

Not even sure whether I should go for sorceries or miracles yet.

>>125099475
>Chaos Sevant
Why don't you go for Pyromancy?

>>125099475
Miracles are more like tools to bolster regular combat. You use them at certain times but don't rely on them.

Sorceries on the other hand tend to be your primary damage dealer if you are built right.

But you could go piromancy which is like miracles in that its a tool, but it doesn't scale off any stats so anyone can use them. You just gotta invest in upgrading the pyromancy glove to increase damage.

>>125099475
Pyromancy is easily the best, fireballs to the wall.

>>125099795
Well I am, but it doesn't require stats so why not take some other majiks as well?
>>125099870
So basically, focus on pyro alone and forget about wasting points in faith/int? Maybe level them just to get some miracle/spell I specifically want but no more?

>>125099475
level vitality

Are there any good souls-like games besides games by fromsoft or lords of the fallen that I can play now? eitr and death's gambit look cool but they are unreleased

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>>125088349
>mfw it's going to have ultra great flails

>>125095658
Can I use an ascetic to get it instead?

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Why wasn't there an ironclad hammer?

>>125100073
>Well I am, but it doesn't require stats so why not take some other majiks as well?
Because the less you spread your stats the more solid your build will be, specially on your first build; with Pyromancy you'll only need to level up some more levels of ATT and you can focus on you health, stamina and whatever your weapon scales with (STR I suposse)

>>125088349
Chivalry has flails, don't it?

>>125090124
>They're working to tie the lore of both games but with luck we won't hear directly about DaSII in 3

Don't think we'll be that lucky. DaS2 has dead giants turned into trees, DaS3 images showed dead hollows turned into trees.

Is the dragon slayer spear worth investing in? Im interested in it.
>>125100073
If you otherwise wanna be a pure warrior, yes

You still gotta invest in attunement for more spell slots.

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>mfw first time in Anor Londo

>>125099475
>that build
jesus
you might as well go for the three greatsword of artorias, since they require 24 str, 18 dex, 18 int, 18 fai
they're pretty strong and fun
http://mmdks.com/7tlz

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>>125088349
soon

>>125101638
>DaS1
it's a weapon for overleveled forest gankers
deals bullshit stamina damage to shields, but also requires a ridiculous stat spread of 24/40/40, and is outclassed by demon spear for a long time
>DaS2
yes, absolutely
its hitbox is flat out broken and you can't walk around it
canceling the r2s is stylish and somewhat effective too
good damage on direct hits

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>Anor Londo archers up next
>can't parry for shit
I'm fucked aren't I?

>>125103913
You'll learn

>>125103913
nah
left archer is no big deal, ignore it once you're at the top and it won't be able to touch you
mad dash for the right one, roll through its arrows, put your shield up and bait it off the ledge

>>125103913
I finished the game without even knowing parrying exists nigguh. Rolling is probably the best skill you can train.

>>125102868
>bloodborne, game with a victorian-era setting, has a flail, if not one you can use
>dark souls, game in a medieval-era setting, does not

Is Demon Ruins actually a worse-designed area than Lost Izalith? Lost Izalith may have been more annoying and had the worst boss in the Souls series, but at least it felt like some though went into it, even if it wasn't intelligent thought. Demon Ruins just feels like a big empty environment where a few enemies where dragged and dropped into like it was made by some kid doing his first Unity project.

so do the spiky figures in the Crystal Cave
correspond with other people who've died to Seth?
they keep appearing and disappearing

>>125104705
Demon Ruins doesn't make my eyes bleed, so no

>>125102868
24 strength?

>>125103913
Its time to get gud
If that fails Poison arrows work just as well. Theres a spot on the walkway up to the archers wherethey cant hit you but you can hit them. Then just hit them with poison arrows, even tho the arrows won't do damage, if they hit they will still apply poison, and you should only need to proc it once then wait for the knights to die.

>>125103913
You know, a lot of people seem conflicted on this part. Some people think it's fine and people just need to do better, but others thinks it's awfully designed and a bullshit difficulty spikes.

What d you think, anons?

>>125103913
Also, someone pls post the nightmare comic with the gif where the player gets hit with the arrows and falls down.

>>125105374
The archers were where I lost my first truly large stock of souls on NG+. I was so sad when it happened. The first time I just died against them. The second time I got knocked off by an arrow while blocking.

>>125105298
the demons at the bottom are much worse desu

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>>125105374
Here anon.

>>125105298
I hold everyone else on the same standards I hold myself. Considering I was able to get past them in my second try (and I'm not even that good of a player) anyone who claims is incapable of doing it is a super casual to me.

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FUCK I ROLLED THROUGH THE ARROWS JUST FINE BUT FELL DOWN WHEN I TRIED TO HIT THE KNIGHT.

>>125105490
Maybe you are just good at vidya. kinda reminds me of a friend I have. Hes really good at vidya, but doesn't consider himself that good.

The upshot is that he wonders why others have trouble with stuff he finds easy even though hes really good.

>Failed to connect to multiplayer session
what the fuck is this shit
my nat is open

>>125105782
Dunno, I just had a good run of coop with a friend without any connection issues. Though I have had issues doing coop on pc in the past.

>>125104846
it's not so bad with a light volume mod

>>125105771
Nah, most people are just too impatient/scared. I've seen a friend of mine play Dark Souls and he thinks he's bad, but he's generally not, his only flaw is that he immediately dodges when he sees an enemy attempting to attack him (instead of waiting for the swing to start) leading to a lot of deaths. All the moves are very telegraphed, so as long as you don't panic you'll breeze through the game.

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I don't feel well.

>>125105782
Player died while you were connecting/ you lost connection to them due to Internet troubles on their end. Common in pvp areas.

>>125106484
sprint up to him
block his attacks until he falls off

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Did they fucking sell out already...?

>>125105298
Wasn't most of the complaining done before they were patched? I believe they used to cover each other completely, unlike now where one can't hit you while you're dealing with the other.

>>125106539
I tried that the last time and that was the result. Granted, I tried to pancake him with the zwei after blocking because it's an overhead swing but I still fell down.

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FUCK.

FUCK THIS FUCKING KNIGHT.

There go 30k souls and my last humanity.

>>125106543
Not... sure what ... you mean exactly...

>>125106494
This has happened the last 10+ times I've either attempted to invade or get summoned. I'm at Belfry Luna with the bell ring, the message "invading as gray spirit etc" pops up as usual, nothing will happen for fifteen seconds, then "Invasion failed. Failed to connect to multiplayer session."

It has to be something from my network, but I've already tried everything. NAT's open, no firewall, ports are fine.

>>125106543
>not knowing that items are posted on Amazon way before their release
>implying they'd be taking preorders this early

>>125106827
Naw anon, been messing up like that for me as well. Maybe the servers are fucking up or something.

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>>125106935

Why the fuck does Amazon US take pre-orders but Amazon UK doesn't, then. Fuck.

>>125106746
>TFW never died to the archers

I keep thinking I'm going to jinx it, but it never happens.

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>>125107020
that's weird
maybe from just hates you :^)
but seriously
>no PC edition listed
>we're getting denied a collector's edition AGAIN

Finally caved and bought SotFS, what build should I run for my first run-through?

At first I was considering powerstanced Moonlight Greatswords, but then I saw this abomination - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsmpDl4QpKI - and it is tempting me sorely.

Either that or I get round to doing that SL1 run in Dark Souls like I've always said i would.

What do?

>>125107481
JUST play the game

>>125107585
yeah, but I've already beaten vanilla several times now and just want a fun build to play with

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I just beat the frist knight and then when I wanted to go get the thingamajik behind the one in the left I accidentally locked on and ran over the edge.

Have they said if you'll be able to warp to bonfires in 3?

>>125107867
Yeah, from the start apparently.

More here - http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/e3/news/a653778/dark-souls-3-to-have-fewer-but-bigger-and-more-complex-areas-says-director-hidetaka-miyazaki/#~pg4TNTGLsFBg9q

>>125107867
I believe they said itll be in the game but I dunno if its available from the start.

>>125107994
>>125107992

Thanks

>>125105034
Yes, unless you never want to one-hand it.

so why exactly does the game let you warp to the abyss
so you can go down there and have an existential crisis or something

>>125108676
So you can warp to your best bro Kaathe if he's chilling there

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It counts as a counter hit when you bonk someone mid-chug, right?

>>125108676
So you can chat with Kaathe?

>>125108676
Its the dark wraith faction headquarters. If you kill 4 kings without talking to Frampt after getting the lord vessel, Kathe appears and lets you join the dark wraiths.

If you do, then talk to Frampt he gets pissed and leaves for the rest of the game.

>>125108787
It should. Would be nice if you got bonus damage on someone chugging since its already hard to outdamage a heal.

>>125104772
they are people who have been cursed

>>125108872
its simple
getting staggered while chugging makes you drop your flask, setting its uses to 0 until you either die or rest at a fire

>>125104772
They are other players who have been cursed
>>125109032
Nah, thats a too punishing. Especially if Im just trying to play the zone and get invaded. Unwanted invasions are already tough enough, that kinda penalty would just make me start alt f4ing

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>>125108872
Yeah, for sure. I've always just figured it counted as a counter without any real proof. That hit actually killed the guy, which I wasn't expecting by the damage I'd been doing to him, so it got me wondering again.

>>125109032
getting staggered while chugging should make you drop your flask, die, corrupt your save, brick your console and have Bamco dispatch a hitman with a hot iron to come shove it up your ass

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>>125109092
>that's a too punishing

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>try to jump the stairs in anor londo for the shortcut
>fail the jump again and again
>fuck this, it's faster to just take the long route at this point
>get rekt by the first silver night
Fucking perfect.

>>125108787
It's not an attack, so nope.

Parrying counts though, because fuck you for trying to parry a chaos blade.

>>125109294
Im not really sure what you are trying to say here anon. Though Im assuming you are calling me a casual.

It is too punishing though.

>>125109408
no, you said "that's a too punishing" instead of "that's too punishing" or "that's a bit too punishing"
think about what kind of accent Mario has

>>125109408
>doesn't know what mario sounds like
casual

>>125109496
>>125109543
Oh, i didn't realize I made that typo.

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>>125108787
>It counts as a counter hit when you bonk someone mid-chug, right?

Not exactly. They again extra defence while chugging.

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>>125109402
>It's not an attack, so nope.
That's what always made me think that it may not count. Thanks for confirming that it doesn't. Thinking back on it, the reason I killed the guy with the hit in >>125108787 is probably because I nailed him with the axe's sweet spot.

>>125109708
Sweet Jesus. That's good to know, thanks for that webm!

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>in Anor Londo with no solid or liquid humanity
Just fucking kill me, I can't even kindle the goddamn bonfire or even turn human to get humanity from pvp (not that I'd win, but still).

>>125110269

As much as I hate the phrase "git gud" now is the time to do so.

>>125108798
>Its the dark wraith faction headquarters. If you kill 4 kings without talking to Frampt after getting the lord vessel, Kathe appears and lets you join the dark wraiths.

It may be because it's 4 in the morning but I really enjoy reading this all of a sudden because it sounds like some convoluted playground rumor

>>125110369
I know it totally does.
But its all true.

Technically you don't have to wait for the lord vessel, the guy in red just won't lower the water unless you have it.
But you can just kill him and thatll lower the water too.

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Wait, I thought you couldn't get summoned if you're hollowed? I might have been completely mistaken about this because I could place my sign just fine.

>>125110269
leave your sign down then

>>125089537
I don't understand. There are enough treasures in Izalith to not make you have to farm for red chunks/slabs if you haven't used any on a weapon already.

>>125110573
You can't summon others if you are hollowed. You can be summoned no matter what. In fact being summoned is a way to earn humanity.

>>125110573
Nope, you can be summoned
furthermore you can gain humanity via jolly cooperation against bosses

>>125110637
>>125110649
But then again I would have to help against O&S to get humanity right? I haven't even tried them myself yet.

>>125110483
also, you can talk to frampt but you’ll need to bone or darksign out if you want to join the darkwraiths. most covenants are hidden one way or the other. except the way of white and forest. even sunbros have a requirement that is never explicitly stated in game, so it’s kind of hidden

>>125110749
But you still wanted to coop them right? So why does it matter if its your world or someone else's? You could just say its practice. If anor Londo is already kicking your ass, then O&S are gonna be trouble.

Guys it's late and I need to sleep

but i also want to play dark souls

what do i do

>>125110879
Are you a NEET? Do what you want then.
Do you have any social responsibilities at all, including a job/girlfriend/social life/etc? Go to bed.

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>>125110879
>2015
>Not playing video games in your dreams

>>125110879
mix espresso with red bull and stoli
inject directly in right eyeball
>>125110749
you lose nothing if you die as a summon and anor londo is fairly active. see it as practice for the boss, with a chance to gain humanity and souls along with it

>>125110875
Well I wanted to coop because I need humanity but I thought I needed to be human to be summoned, I was going to at least try to beat them by myself since I haven't summoned so far. And I think I'm actually a bit overleveled for AL at 47, it's just the lack of humanity/kindling that is making me worried.

I can't even invade Lautrec while hollow, right?

>>125111028
>Do you have any social responsibilities at all, including a job/girlfriend/social life/etc? Go to bed.
okay then.

Goodnight /dsg/, sweet dreams.

>>125111082
I'll try. I'll make you proud anon.

>>125111206
>sleeping on a Friday night
>ever
c'mon anon, it's the one time you get to fuck around the whole night without any repercussions since you can just sleep in on Sunday and be ready to roll again on Monday
unless you live with people or have a commitment on weekends, in which case God help you

will someone on 360 please trade me raime's set? i have basically everything else but i'm on restricted SM.

>>125111118
i was getting lots of invasions last night in al and im lvl60, you’re fine. you could get a couple levels too. lautrec can be invaded while hollow

>>125111118
Yeah, you should be able to.

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>>125110879
>4am
>my birthday
>a little burnt out on bloodborne already and completely burnt out of dark souls
There's nothing left.

>PvP anxiety
>being scared of random internet strangers defeating me in a videogame

make it stoooop

>>125111515
why not just kill raime and buy his set? that many souls aren't going to fuck your sm up.
you twink

Killed Lautrec and got 5 humanity, also found the dragonslayer bow. But is there really no way out other than homebone?

>>125111791
Bound by Flame. Fallen Lords.

>>125112078
What? You should return to your world right after you invade Lautrec if that's what you mean.

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>>125112123
I did, then I went up and dropped to where the greatbow is.

>>125112164
Oh, up there. There's a pole missing from part of the railing you can drop down from.

>>125112164
And I'm a gigantic blind moron, I just found the way.

>>125112189
>>125112164
The part you can drop down from is literally right behind you and visible in that screenshot. How could you not notice that?

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>>125112267
Don't bully pls I found it already.

>>125111791
>birthday
>you were supposed to be having fun
>out with friends, drinking, hitting on chics
>just another day for you, other than the occasional call for wishes, strictly from family
>you just want it to end so you don’t have to think about it
>and so another year passes, not with a bang but with a whimper
where did everything go so wrong, anon

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>>125112328
I recently moved to a different state, so it's okay that I don't have friends yet.
My coworkers are all faggot memesters and my ex was my best friend.

>>125112419
>tfw you will never chow down on a huge pile of delicious 100% American burgers

>>125111791
How about playing other games?

>>125111861

I've killed him, but i'm right on the brink of a pretty major SM gap.

I'm not so much a twink just really anal about my soul memory ;-;

>>125112647
All the other games I like are dead.

So I recently started playing for the first time, killed the gargoyles and now fucking about behind the door in darkroot, I spent some stats to get 10 attunement and 12 faith, is it worth putting 8 more points into faith to get first level of sunlight spear or whatever it's called? I'm going for big sword and board str style but there seems to be a lot of bosses with lightning weakness

>>125112818
Lies. What doesn't live cannot die.

>>125112907
Lightning is pretty stronk, especially at the start.

Unless you help someone else in coop though, you will actually need 25 faith to even get the lightning spear. And you will have to do 10 coop events as/with a sunbro to get the better lightning spear.

I like having miracles though. Healing miracles are nice so you can save your estus for actual fights, homeward is convenient if not especially necessary. Wrath of God is great, but you'd need more faith for that.

>>125110129
Drakekeeper's Greataxe doesn't have a sweet spot anymore.
It's nerf was short-lived.

>>125111791
>>125112328
>birthday is in a month
>when it happens I'll go to my parents' house for dinner, my mom will make buffalo steak or some other awesome dish followed by one of her world-class German Chocolate cakes and my dad will probably have bought me socks or a folding knife or some other pretty bauble that I'll never use but is nice to have, as well as a bar of 90% cocoa chocolate that he imported from Belgium
>after that I'll head over to my best friend's house where he'll have organized a party
>I'll get totally sloshed, play Mario Kart/Smash/Mario Party with the bros for a few hours, probably shag some chick in a bedroom, sleep until 3 PM, wake up without a trace of her ever being there, have more cake and a heart-stopping espresso for breakfast, drive home and play Ace Combat 4 until the hangover fades
and I'm fucking depressed about it
all I want is a loving wife and two beautiful kids, but it's impossible to find the right girl
I've been alone since I moved out two years ago and while the freedom is awesome it gets so damn lonely sometimes
never been in a relationship either, unless you count stupid flirting in highschool

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>>125112908
>all of my PS2 games are back home with my family
>my 360 and its games are there as well
>only games worth anything on my PS3 are the KH HD collections and DeS
>only games I have for PS4 is BB and uncharted 1-3
>PC library

>>125113065
>deus ex
>skyrim
>GTA5
>Metal gear solid V
GUISE I HAVE NO GAMES AT ALL

>>125113065
re-play Human Revolution
there's a new DE coming out fairly soon

>>125113065
Get Endless Sky. It's free.

>>125102868
>its hitbox is flat out broken and you can't walk around it
It's the tracking and you can just dodge the first and the second poke by rolling once to the offhand shoulder.

>>125113119
>DE:HR
I got bored of it.
>Skyrim
Don't know why I even reinstalled it.
>GTA5
I only rebought it for PC because I lost a bet. Beat it all on 360.
>MGSV
100% it. Nothing left to do until MGO drops.

>>125113060
women can easily find someone to fuck and men can easily find someone to marry. start hanging out more in places you imagine your perfect girl to be