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Edition Edition, Because I Can't Think of an Edition

>Vault Dweller's Survival Guide Links
http://pastebin.com/x1yeAmcP

>Fallout 4 Comprehensive Map (See interactive map for Bobblehead/Magazine locations)
https://imgur.com/ZR3kPIz

>Fallout 4 System Requirements
http://pastebin.com/s6LE3ety

>Fallout 4 Spoken Player Names List
http://pastebin.com/zGFUk5nj

>Fallout 4 Item IDs
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J9quAMtGK70aptz0t5teqWHGZJ9T9uvJmzNEBJEB36Q/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true

>Fallout 4 Legendary Effects & IDs Guide
http://pastebin.com/qg0KhsCA

>Collectible Checklist and Interactive Map (Use this to find Magazines/Bobbleheads)
http://fallouttracker.com/#!/

>Character Builders
http://www.nukahub.com/tools/special
http://www.gameplorer.de/fo4/#1

>Fallout 4 Mods Removed from Nexus
http://pastebin.com/6kGZaPiy

>HELP! THE NEW PATCH BROKE MY MODS!
http://pastebin.com/dfRatvDc

>Fallout 3/NV
http://pastebin.com/wVAqLvCD

>/aco/ Thread (NSFW goes here)
>>>/aco/fallout

Pre-War Thread: >>124900728
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>BoS
Nazis
>Institute
Confederacy
>Railroad
Hippy terrorists
>Minutemen
Weak faggots

Why are all the options so fucking stupid?
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Nora a best
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>>124915209
>Institute
>Confederacy

You mean technocracy right?
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Give me an interesting fallout 2 build. Just did a small guns and big guns playthrough.
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>>124915209
>>Minutemen
>Weak faggots
You mean you wanted to complain about all of them but couldn't think of any legitimate criticism of the Minutemen. Here's one, their questline is horrible and anemic compared to the others.
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>>124915249
1 IN unarmed
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6th for Chemical Weapons mod when?
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>>124915249
Max INT and CHA.
Do a walktrough without making a single shot AND without killing anyone.
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nth for gentlesynths
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>>124915283
Sadly it's the closest thing to a neutral route.
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Here's a lore question :


How could the world not create another source of energy? I just don't see how the Great War could have happened. A country would have either been smart enough or desperate enough to try another way to create energy. The money they would have made from creating an alternative to oil would have been insane.

I mean, I get it, it's just a story to set the stage for the games. I just like to think
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>>124915248
He doesn't mean the form of government, he's comparing them to the Confederate States during the American Civil War. They wanted to retain slaves and economic freedom from the north.
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>>124915209
>Bos
>Nazis

This is a stupid meme.
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>>124915209
BoS = Fighters + Mages Guild
Institute = DB + Necromancers
RR = Thieves Guild
MM = Imperial Legion

EZPZ don't overthink this nigga
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I want to smell Noras armpits!
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>>124915283
>Have the game all point towards the Minutemen being the canon ending and the "best" one.
>give them the shittiest questline and only 2 side quests(radiant shit doesn't count)
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>>124915231
>tfw she's dead
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>>124915367
There's a fuckton of other sources.
One example being the Sierra Madre Vending Machines which is basically a machine that turns junk into food.
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>>124915367
They did, it's called nuclear energy.
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>tfw there's no way to check the exact your Radiation level without console commands
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>>124915367
energy was fine, they just ran out of other natural resources. or something. human nature doesn't change. just buy the game.
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>>124915470
But then why did the Great War happen? If they had the alternative to oil, why did they still have to attack other countries for oil?
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>>124915460
>not playing as mama Nora
>not making a girl love harem
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>>124915443
Institute are the dwemer.
Live underground,technomancers, use constructs to perform most tasks.
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>>124915458
Institute meanwhile is the most fleshed out but its writing is haphazard and frequently contradicts itself and it feels like they wanted to make not killing your son a justifiable path to take in the last few months of development and rewrote a bunch of it, which is probably the reason for both.

Institute played as a good guy is also the objectively best option, while Institute played any other way is objectively the worst.
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>>124915553
Because the Enclave wanted to fuck the world up so they could lord over the ashes from Mars. Play FO2.
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>>124915460
>tfw DLC will bring her back
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>>124915343
>Pipboy on right hand
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if given the chance, would you transfer Nick into a fresher, 3rd generation body?
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>>124915567
I'd rather play as myself
either way
>best girl in the game
>is your wife
>gets killed in the first 20 minutes
>you have to sit there and watch her die as your son gets taken away
Pretty sure this would turn anyone into a murderous rampaging psychopath in reality.
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>>124915593
>Hey Blue, #synthlivesmatter
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>>124915683
In a motherfucking heartbeat man.
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>>124915683
I would put Nick inside a powah armor.
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>>124915567
>>124915231
>>124915659
Nora a GOOD GIRL
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>The game never allows you to address what the Institute has been doing to people
>Never gives you any control over anything even when they put you in charge of a faction
Know what? Fuck it. The pragmatic solution is just to kill everyone.

There should be DLC where plasma bolts kill Kellogg and the 2 scientists in the intro and you wake up recruited to the Enclave instead. Because they had the right idea. Fuck everyone. You should just teleport a nuclear device into the Institute instead of going personally. Let them rematerialize that. Fuck em.
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>>124915659
>as a synth
dropped
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>>124915332
You have to kill frank horrigan though
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>>124915283
The minutemen are just a glorified raider gang.
Theyre power structure doesn't actually mean anything and the general can't pull rank, he can only suggest stuff.
They're more loosely organized than the gunners, and only help each other when theyre in the vicinity and feel like it

is that criticism good enough?
because the minutemen fucking blow
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>>124915808
>The game never allows you to address what the Institute has been doing to people
It does though, you can call them out for being massive douchebags and shaun is just like "its for the betterment of muh humanity!"
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Does the Gauss rifle fuck up for anyone else? Sometimes when I fully charge it, it just doesn't shoot at all.
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>>124915814
>implying it won't be the enclave who brings her back
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>>124915892
>faction that I don't like is a glorified raider gang

I'm loving this meme, first happened with the BoS then Railroad now the Minutemen
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>>124915593
The semi-visible alpha foliage textures all around the character are bothering me more than they should be. On the sidenote, would you share what graphical enchantments do you use on top of the vanilla game?
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>>124915814
an extremely NICE synth
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>>124915932
yeah
or when its fully charged and you ads and doesnt fire
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>>124915960
It's just one guy.
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>Strong is immortal
I can kill Hancock, but can't kill this fucking abomination.
W-O-W THANKS TODD.
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>>124915960
I dont like any of the factions, theyre all shit

The minutemen aren't any better than the other three you choose from, and calling it a meme doesnt help your nonexistent argument buddy
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>>124916006
It won't be the same
Just like little synth Shaun
deep down you know it is just a robot with your son's memories
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>>124915892
Nigger the Minutemen are colonial/revolutionary America. Read a book sometime.
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>>124916038
stay mad, human. You can't fuck with Strong, Strong is STRONG
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>No revolver mod to make them double action
>The .44 is a worthless piece of shit, strongly overshadowed by the 10mm in DPS
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>>124915960
Check the raider flotilla, they literally have a raider chief there who was a lieutenant in the minutemen who fell to raiding because his community ran out of food. Also the guy who became a gunner general was a former minuteman general
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>>124916064
not him but the reason I picked little synth shaun is that I don't want a son, I just can't leave a boy like that, wouldn't be right. I've been saving good synths throughout the game
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>>124915095
What the fuck is that fucking ugly as shit tumblr drawing?
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>>124915921
You never get to ask them why they're kidnapping people like fucking retards. The one answer comes in the FEV program that was apparently shut down a while ago, but they're still kidnapping people and replacing them.

It's like they were written by someone who has never actually read a book.
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>>124916079
I'm aware of what the literal American minutemen were. I'm talking about the faction called minutemen in fallout 4.

are you on the right general?
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>>124916064
Yeah but I [HATE CHILDREN] except for that poor kid in Vault 81

If it walks and talks like Nora then it will be #1 for me

The funny part is that you learn more about the boy in Vault 81 than your son and all the kid does is give you a tour
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>>124916079
Not him but that's why it's extremely sad that they're so poorly executed in-game. With their historical background there was everything set for an interesting player-faction. And what we got instead? A perimeter guard who likes to play Reverse-House Negro and only treat you as a human being if you lick his ass.
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>>124915960
>>124916048
>>124916168
its been verified on this general multiple times that the minutemen are quite literally a "Glorified raider gang."
Since you apparently hate that terminology so much you can just refer to them as
A shitty version of the gunners
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>>124916219
don't give it the negative attention it's looking for

best to just ignore and stop replying to tumblr filename piper posters
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>>124915367
The fusion batteries that fule the Power Armor were developed during the war. They had just started going into civilian use, and if they'd had more time to disseminate further, the cause of the war would probably have disappeared in short order.

Unfortunately, because they went into the Armor first, that meant the US started winning. Once China started getting their shit pushed in it was all "Fire ze missiles" and that was that.

Those fusion cores were so close to saving the world, but ended up destroying it first.
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>>124916168
Those raiders there were all ex-minutemen grunts who left the minutemen AFTER they lost their HQ and leadership, desertion is something that happens in any army y'know.

Also Clint wasn't a general the fuck are you on about, Ezra was the one in command of the squad.
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>>124915095
Threadly reminder the fucking Germans made it work!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbLqjJs2Na4
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>>124915892
You must be from one of those countries where defending yourself is a crime.

Enjoying your new Muslim neighbors?
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>>124916267
>the faction has nothing at all to do with the group they're based on
Do you have some kind of brain damage?
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>>124916506
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>>124916451
It's a jobs program for engineers. It works about as well as the space shuttle does as a commercial launch vehicle.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uhrx9IbspE

wow this is actually making me feel bad
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>>124916451
Man this thing is so great.

And with los alamos backing the project, we might be a little closer to completeing the shiva star.
And then all we need to do is scale both the power generator version and the star down.
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>>124915367
Because the aliens triggered the war to eliminate humanity.
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>>124916582
wtf?
What do you have to do to piss him off this much?
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WHEN DO WE GET HOLSTERED WEAPON MODELS?
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Fallout 4 is more poorly written than Fallout 3.
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>>124916650
Bethesda should've never tried to do this faction bullshit, it's way out of their league.
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>>124916650
the voice acting is garbage, the protag sounds like a faggot who is unsure about every word he speaks
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I want maxsons coat irl
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>>124915367
Te war happened because by the time nuclear power cells were made, the war was no longer about oil but rather petty hatreds.

It was a spiraling mess of diplomatic fuck ups that was irreversible even if the initial problem was fixed.


>>124916641
cut content
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>>124916557
>minutemen
>form well-prepared militia companies self-trained in weaponry, tactics and military strategies from the American colonial partisan militia during the American Revolutionary War.

>F04 minutemen
>best military strategy is gather 15 guys and stand outside a house
>best combat training is run at people with pipe pistols
>not even remotely prepared, make some random vault dweller do literally everything for them while they sit around farms with their hands up their asses

The fallout 4 minutemen are nothing like the real world minutemen, besides their name and their supposed ideals.
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>>124916785
The female protag VA is better but having a voiced protag in the first place is stupid, just like the promise that console would get mods.
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>right pad larger than left
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>124916759
>exact plot of NV
>but I don't like it this time

It's ok when Obshitian does it.
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>>124916627
>Shiva Star
That name is pretty cool. Shiva is a pretty bad bitch in Hinduism., then again the military has a thing for picking such names. Wish them best luck, doesn't even matter if they use it peacefully or not. I just want to see science progressing.
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>>124915209
>Make webm
>It's a jittery, laggy POS.

Some things aren't meant to be.
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>>124916796
Buy a bomber jacket
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So if I've got a Plasma rifle that does 120 DMG and also 120 energy damage does the actual damage total 240 or 120?

>>124916951
Studded leather looks like shit
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OFFICIAL FALLOUT UNIVERSE POWER RANKINGS

1. Frank Horrigan
2. Chosen One
3. Vault Dweller
4. The Master
5. Courier/Lone Wanderer
6. Legate Lanius
7. Sole Survivor
8. Rawr (Legendary Deathclaw)
9. Kellog
10. Maxson

[Before somebody says something about the Chosen one being beneath Horrigan, there are literally like 2 builds that I know of in Fallout 2 that make it so you can fight him one on one with no help from companions and they both require cheese so STFU]
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>>124916951
I'm assuming the right is heavy and the left is sturdy
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>>124917018
>1920x1080
>high bitrate
you only have yourself to blame
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>>124917124
Learning process, it's all a learning process.

Thank you for your succinct advice.
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>>124917028
I COULD be wrong but I think if he wanted a bomber jacket he would have said he wanted the bomber jacket irl, and not maxson's coat, which is not a bomber jacket.
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>>124916957
>exact plot of NV
>with none of the personality or intrigue
>cant kill faction leaders you dont like when you want because that would ruin the rigid, non-interactive CINEMATIC STORYLINE before Bethesda says you're allowed to
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100th for piperfags false-flagging curie as pedo-bait
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>>124917119
>Burned Man not listed at all
Guy has survived a shit ton.
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>>124916796
>I want maxsons coat irl
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>>124916958
Yeah, the secret military projects have great names.
And are doing some pretty cool things. Honestly one of the very few reasons I'd be ok with a WW3 is to see the U.S. deploy it's new secret tech.
Though hopefully a theoretical WW happens after they've been aboe to acctually add the armor part to the power armor D.A.R.P.A. has been working on
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>>124917216
>and not maxson's coat, which is not a bomber jacket.
It is essentially a long tailed bomber jacket
just sew a BoS patch on it
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>>124916038
>Wanting to remove the best companion from the game
stay pleb
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>>124917243
>with none of the personality or intrigue
Not him but, when did any of the factions in NV have personality or intrigue?

Not that the ones in Fallout 4 do or anything, but neither did the ones in NV.

NV was just
-Retarded cliche democracy
-Dumb edgy raider/slaver horde
-Robot
-Dictator
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>>124917119
>tfw no base Cochise AI
get on my level noob
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This is a BIG purchase
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>>124917119
I feel like the mysterious stranger should be on this list.
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>>124916887
>Brotherhood of Steel
>claim to be most militaristic and strong
>claim to be a positive force in the Commonwealth

>can't win a fight against raiders with pipe pistols
>most dangerous when thing about them are the explosions from their vertibirds
>can't feed themselves without making the player go extort farmers for them

>Institute
>claims to be the future of humanity
>all they have done is kidnap people, replace them with synths and turn them into super mutants
>their weapons are garbage
>can't survive without the player doing all their work on the surface

>Railroad
>compartmentalized so they can't all be taken out at once
>claim to have few troops
>actually have a bunch
>win bunker hill without the player
>their heavies are the best troops
>their guns are fucking awesome

It's like the game is poorly executed or something
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>>124917270
1st for detecting butthurt pedos
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>>124917432
4u
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This exists
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>>124917331
What he wants is a long shearling coat or shearling trench coat.

For something almost identical you could probably just look up "bane jacket"
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>>124916887
I want a mod which makes it so actual settlers from nearby settlements come to help me when I shoot a flare instead of garbage minutemen with no armor and pipe pistols. That way all that combat armor and those nice guns I keep giving them will actually help me. And having larger settlements with more guys would let you get more people to help you. It would be like I'm building and equipping my own personal army as I play.

I want to be able to shoot a flare and watch 5 guys run in with heavy combat armor. All equipped with powerful guns and cramming plasma grenades up the enemy's ass.

And when they're done I want to dump all my junk on them so they can carry it back to the settlement for me while I keep going.

Instead, I only call in minutemen backup in the hopes that some of them will die and I can nick their stuff.
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>>124917119
>no BearandBull nigger
>no Marcus
>no Elijah
>no House
>no Lib Prime

Dumpster, etc.
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>>124917119
>Horrigan above Chosen One
Chosen one beat his mutated ass so hard his head exploded.
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>>124917435
FUCK

I knew I was missing somebody god damn it
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What do you guys think about the enemies in Fo4?
>Ghouls
Greatly improved, they are way more menancing and spooky now. These naked ones creep the shit out of me.
>Mirelurks
I like how they put some focus on these, the adult ones are hard as ball at low level and challenging enough at high levels. The whole thing with hatchlings and eggs is great too, can't wait for mods to improve it.
The mirelurk queen is also a pretty nice boss, though I wish it didn't threw acid so often.
>Insects
They sure did a fine job in making these little shits int othe most obnoxious enemies in the game. Bloatflies were always a joke, and while they are still a joke, the higher level ones can one shot you hard if you don't have decent endurance.
Bloodbugs are not so bad in terms of difficulty but they are giant mosquitos, that along with the special animations they have to suck blood makes them nerve cracking.
Radscorpions digging in and out of earth is pretty good too, even if they sometimes go way up.
Stingers can eat shit and whoever design them should be shot.
>Mole rats
Same as the radscorpion, the whole diggin in and out made them way more interesting and since they can overwhelm you in numbers so easily they can be pretty dangerous at higher levels.
>Raiders/Humans/Mutants
The new cover system for the AI is pretty good, and they don't randomly charge at you neither like they did before. this has made gunfights a lot of fun. Weapon variety is a serious problem though.
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>>124917561
>long shearling coat
I always thought they were just long bomber jackets
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>>124917439
>NCR
>Claim to be a functional democracy
>all of them are wholly incompetent at every task, are running out of food, water, no one cares about the people, government is corrupted by brahmin barons

>Legion
>Claim to be doing all this shit because its necessary
>Past history shows such ideals are ultiamtly flawed and doomed to failure
>No one follows Caesar's ideals, only him, so when he dies, its all fucked anyways.


>House
>Claims he has Vegas's best interest in mind
>Totally fucks over all the common people of Vegas by forcing them into his ideal
>all of his plans are hilariously unreasonable and wont actually work.


Wow, its almost like all factions are flawed fuck ups because thats real life or something?
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>tfw nora failed as a parent
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>>124917119
Would Ulysses not rape Maxson or Kellogg?
I just remember getting my ass handed to me multiple times by him
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>>124915209
>try to murder everyone
>can't because the minutemen leaders are immortal

FUCK
THIS
GAME
Part of what I hate most is that I enjoy it sometimes. It has the potential to be great yet it utterly SHITS itself in terms of story, options and factions. It actually made me try to murder everyone in some vain attempt to change something, to find a different path than the 4 it forces you into, and then it slaps me in the face and tells me I have to put up with their utterly retarded choices.

SOMEONE NEEDS TO PAY FOR THIS!
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>>124916887
>what is lore and gameplay for 200 jack

Railroad was a fuck huge organization that extended throughout america but in the game it's 2 bases with 5 people on them, just because the game doesn't show exactly what the story tries to convey doesn't mean they have nothing in common

>>124916957
>New vegas gives you a clear idea of what all factions stand for and their plan for the future of the mojave, you can discuss in detail with faction members about their goals
>FO4 gives vague shit like "synths are the future of mankind" without giving any explanation and expects the player to join a faction

ayy.
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I'm buying this tomorrow. Should be fun right? It IS fun right? Even the game's biggest detractors say it's at least fun, if nothing like a Fallout game
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>find lorenzo cabot
>expect it to be some sort of ghoulified winged ultra-mutant by jack's description
>it's just some old fart in a stupid hat
>free him because curie approves
>reach his house
>jack's shitting his pants
>decide to help because i want the hat
>old man in silly hat eats .50, 5mm and fucking rockets like it's fucking nothing
>starts PK Rockin' through the house
>chokeslams the shit out of curie
>shreds me with his mini gatling laser
help
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>>124917657
>Robots
I love new stuff like how they explode in your fucking face when you cripple them, Sentry and Assaultron are also scary as fuck.
Pretty good job with them.
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>>124917704
>Try to massacre diamond city
>These 3 immortal guys keep following us around

So silly
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>>124917604
>House
>good at fighting

>Marcus
>stronger than any of those on the list

>Elijah
>stronger than anybody on the list

The only one I'll give you js Liberty Prime but that feels cheesey as fuck. That's like saying the nukes that started the war are stronger than the Vault Dweller. It's like... yeah duh?
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>>124917657
>Ghouls
>Improved
one of the worst lore breaking shit whole time. Ghouls are not ammo sponges, they are freaking fragile and ferals are no danger to anybody unless suprise but sex or muh zombie horde
gtfo from my lawn idiot
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>>124917432
and it's totally worth it, you can carpet bomb corvega with just a couple shots with the mirv mod
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>>124917439
Can you also do Minutemen and Gunners? That's interesting.

A few things though:
- What railroad specific guns are you referring to? Dunno that its awesome.


Other than that, pretty much agree with what you have although institute weaponry is not that weak with the right mods.
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So what does everyone think of the current mods? I think there's a lot of shitty ones. But enough just to put a little more personal touch to your experience. I can't wait for the geck. Still need weapon holster animations.
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>>124917741
The Rialraod does go down to D.C. at least

Remember, Tulip in Underworld, Dashwood at Tenpenny Tower, Manya Vargas in Megaton, and Father Clifford in Rivet city were all railroad agents.

Victoria Watts, one of the founders/leaders of the railroad is nowhere to be seen in Fo4 also.
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>>124917089
Guys please I need to know if I can tear ass with my plasma raifu or if I shoudl stick to my combat rifle
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>>124917868
Gunners aren't a faction, they're just another enemy type.
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>>124917803
>Lore
Couldn't give a single shit.
At this point, any moron playing Bethesda games for the lore is just that, a fucking moron.
Also, ghouls are not bullet sponges.
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>>124915209
more like
>BoS
Nazis
>Institute
Illuminate
>Railroad
SJW terrorists
>Minutemen
Glorified security guards
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>>124917439
>can't win a fight against raiders with pipe pistols
I've never witnessed this. A knight dropped from a vertibird, killed X6-88 like 6 times, then went to Libertalia and slaughtered half of them singlehandedly before dying

>their weapons are garbage
yeah but theyre designed to be mass produced and given to synths. Theyre just the institute version of the ak-47

>compartmentalized so they can't all be taken out at once
If you wipe out HQ, which you can do, the railroad will pretty much fall apart.
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>>124917663
Bomber jackets are often made of shearling but even the longer ones are pretty short jackets, and they aren't exclusively shearling.

Shearling is basically an inside-out sheep skin tanned with the wool still on. What Maxson has is very close to a trench coat, so you might want a shearling trench coat. You'd probably want to search "men's shearling trench coat" or "men's long shearling coat" since if you search for long coats or trench coats in general you'll find mostly women's shit which looks better anyway but eh :^)
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>>124917439
>extort farmers
>extort
i just shot the fuckers, no one who farms for a living contributes much anyway. compost'm
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You mirin my clean energy?
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>>124917949
gtfo you filthy casual we are doing important shit here go whine on steam about hwo you like to suck Todd cock for DLC
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ITS OUT

CBBE BETA IS OUT
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>>124917757
pls respond
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essential mods?

I'm looking for something that helps scavenging. something that gives the weight and value of an item before I pick it up. like fo3 and nv. does that exist?
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>>124917973
If I wanted to purchase one I would probably go with the bomber jacket
I don't like the long trench coat look
Either way it would be useless to me for now because I live in fucking Florida were it is summer 85% of the year
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>>124918041
you 'avin a giggle m8?
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>>124918117
Same, actually. Fuck this shitty state.
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>>124918041
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Should i let her live /fog/?
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>>124917869
I'm only interested in dress mods and I'm kinda underwhelmed by them. Most of the mods are just tweaks and not crazy shit
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>>124917741
>their plan for the future of the mojave, you can discuss in detail with faction members about their goals
>all boils down to take over the Dam and get New Vegas as a package deal

WOW best writing since Planeshit
deep Choice and Consequence
WHOA
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>>124917757
It'll be fun for the first playthrough. After that youre done.
I honestly would not recommend it
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>>124917791
this your first bethesda game, I assume?
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>>124918182
fucking no, she's killing assets that belong to the only faction that can realistically fix the world
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i want to give all my minutemen nice laser muskets
would i need to give them all ammo or will they use it regardless?
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>>124918182
She's the only one being honest with you.

She's also masterminding a town-sized deception meant specifically to lure random visitors into her torture-murder dungeon so she can perfect her craft.

Kill them all, the girl, and Honest Dan.
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>>124918182
>not killing all nerds on sight
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>>124917926
Buy the two shot combat rifle and never need another gun again.

Then get yourself a nice gauss rifle for sniping and recon.
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>>124918129
yeah it's pretty fun
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>>124917868
>Gunners
>Evolved from vault-dwellers(?)
>Apparently no leadership/organization
>One of the few groups that use Missile Launchers
>The vast majority use energy weapons
>Mercenary group that attacks you on sight without a contract

>Triggermen
>Gimmicky mobster-ish raiders made up of pre-war ghouls and cosplayers
>Only exist to serve as an enemy to Nick Valentine and a source of .45 ammunition early on
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>>124916386
>verified

by yours truly offical "Its my opinion" seal of aproval?
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>>124918238
One playthrough should do it if it's gonna be fun last around 50 hours, outside of Souls titles I'm not the type to play things multiple times anyway
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>>124917675
There's a difference between a purposely flawed faction and the game mechanics and balance contradicting the story. FO4 has tonnes of the second issue. The BoS is shit, not because they should be but because vertibirds are giant targets with insanely stupid AI. Institute us just really poorly written. Minutemen should be awesome, but they have three quests and two features, one of which is useless (flare gun). They also have a shitload of radiant quests that aren't fun at all.

These aren't really flaws with the factions, just flaws with the game. Mods will fix it
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>>124916951
It looks like you have tits.
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>>124917970
>1 Knight
>worth a Courser and a dozen raiders

AD VICTORIAM, BROTHERS
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>>124917868
Railroad heavies all have Gauss rifles. Institute weapons are weaker than the laser weapons at every variation.

>>124917891
>>124917970
I think the railroad was organized to be able to work without an HQ. It's pretty obvious Desdemona wasn't the original leader and they've already lost their HQ shortly before the events of the game
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>>124918182
>decline offer
Danse disliked that
>accept offer
>wrong move, soldier
Danse disliked that

what the hell danse
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>>124918165
The hole state isn't shitty in my opinion
Just the southern part, the fishing is nice so at least there is a silver lining
Fuck Miami though holy shit
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>>124918017
>no one who farms for a living contributes much anyway
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>>124917741
>what is lore and gameplay for 200 jack
You know what I learned from "lore and gameplay?"

That the minutemen are utterly useless and imcompetent, as well as horribly weak compared to the other factions.
I also learned that they basically turned on each other when things got rough.

they were my first choice before I did 15 minutes of research on them
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>>124918182
She's completely right though, the girl is a synth
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>>124918365
Some of the triggermen serve Hancock presumably because he bought their loyalty, some work with drug traffickers (and they have their own drug lab) and some are seen infiltrating Hancock's warehouses in Goodneighbor. So they aren't JUST tied to Valentine.
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>>124918115
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/5293/?
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>>124918365
>Apparently no leadership/organization
Their leader is the Captain in the old GNN building at the southern end of the map.
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>all factions conveniently multicultural
>junkies everywhere
>except the institute

a white wasteland is a better wasteland
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>>124918192
Yeah, agreed. The bomber jacket for instance was pretty recent. There was a couple other mods for a bit on release, but they were just shitty recolors of the BOS uniform.
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>>124918449
>Railroad heavies
>Railroad organized
huh that sure explains all the dead railroad agents in kendall hospital mate. Thanks
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>>124915867
Activate the turrets with presidential key and get Sgt.Granite to assist you.
My hands are clean.
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>>124918543
I wonder if her father knows that.
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>>124918392
If youve been on this general for more than three days youd know we've had 15 different discussions about all the factions, and it has been agreed upon my multiple people that the minutemen are fucking awful.

You can have your shitty opinions about whatever faction you want, go around screaming ad victoriam or saying the minutemen are the best for the commonwealth

But in the end every faction is utterly retarded, and the minutemen are the prime example of this
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>>124918446
>10 years of training and 500 lbs of advanced gear
>plowed under by what are essentially endless renewable resources

No wonder NCR keked the BoS so easily.
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>>124917868
>What railroad specific guns are you referring to?
Their heavies all carry gauss rifles and miniguns and actually are dangerous.
>>
>still no patch
I'm going to be really pissed if it ends up being nothing but bug fixes.
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>>124918506
>put seed in dirt
>wait
>it gets cold
>plant dies
>starve
yes, toil in brahmin shit for me. Do it or we'll crash a vertibird into your shitty junk shack
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>>124918730
>Raildshit
>dangerous
pick one nerd
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>>124918182
No. Her town has been kidnapping and torturing people to develop a means of detecting escaped synths who are just running from the institute.
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>>124917970
>I've never witnessed this.
Raiders knocking down Vertibirds without knights dropping is a common occurrence.
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>>124918609
There is no way that gif is real, what the fuck
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>>124918365
I kinda miss mercenary groups that hunt you down based on your reputation (no longer applicable in FO4 looks like) a la FO3's talon/ranger. Make for a good skirmish and nice source of loot...

Maybe someone can mod this in later after GECK.
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>>124918365
>Apparently no leadership/organization
They have ranks, and a general? Did you do the main quest? Theres a captain commanding a huge group of them in the courser hunter quest
>Mercenary group that attacks you on sight without a contract
Theyre paid to be in the gunners, and their job is to secure their bases. Aka kill and random looking fucks that waltz in with a gun out

>>124917868
You shouldnt have asked, this guy has no idea what hes talking about tbqh
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>>124918601
>>124918601
um dude this is some kind of helicopter renamer.
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Are there any cyberpunk-esque armors and weapons that let me play as a technomancer>
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>>124917970
>A knight dropped from a vertibird, killed X6-88 like 6 times, then went to Libertalia and slaughtered half of them singlehandedly before dying
In my game they dropped into the ocean and didn't do shit
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>>124918724
>Small fraction of a BoS chapter
>Muh Endless resources
FYI NCR doesnt have endless shit and only reason BoS left them alone is war between 2 factions only serve Legion and doom entire fricking mojave
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>>124918543
Her father is a railroad agent. She's not an infiltrator.
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>>124918707
Did you just join in or what? previous generals have always been about making fun of the Institute for its retarded decisions and zero plans for the future along with Maxson baraposting.
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>>124918486
>caring about what companions say they like and dislike
I bet you hate Strong as well

>>124918647
>this guy is talking about railroad. time to talk shit, they suck hahahahaha
My point was that they lose agents all the time and all the other agents still keep going independently
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>>124918920
What do you think?
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>>124918115
first thing that comes to mind is crazy earl or something, scrapping things actually gives what you'd expect out of it - cars give a bunch of steel, some rubber, nuclear material, some glass, and a bunch of screws/gears

homemaker, because it's currently the most fleshed out settlement mod, alternate settlements comes second by shear original content, 3rd goes to ssex, which a meme at this point

for farming there's nxpro - auto harvesting, and a shit load of plants, allowing you to grow wild plants

crafting workbenches - self explanitory really, armorsmith for crafting your own armors instead of playing the RNG roulette

OH longer powerlines, it really is essential for any serious settlement building

anything else, you'll have to state what your looking for this covers the basic stuff
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>>124918875
>You shouldnt have asked, this guy has no idea what hes talking about tbqh
What makes you think they're the same person? This board has no IDs.
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>>124918964
>Muh agents
Cry harder for your bethesda magic factions. Only real agent is Ma Baker in FO universe
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>>124918861
>nice source of loot
any source of loot would be nice. i'm fucking sick of legendary leather arms or fucking VATS baseball bats. Even on very hard with 6 luck this legendary system is wholly unrewarding
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>>124918948
maybe we get on a different times. I'm usually never on in the morning.

Every time ive been on every faction has been shit on, and rightfully so
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>>124917970
>I've never witnessed this. A knight dropped from a vertibird, killed X6-88 like 6 times, then went to Libertalia and slaughtered half of them singlehandedly before dying

What AI mod are you using? Because half of the people playing this game has already talked about Vertibirds being made of paper and BoS soldiers are weak as fuck because Bethesda made NPCs wearing power armor to receive double of the normal damage from weapons.
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>>124918182
So how do i get rid of bodies after i purged this settlement? (Fortunately turrets haven't attack me for some reason)
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>>124919192
Not him, but ive seen power armored BoS soldiers plow through entire camps of super mutants, and take on like 3 deathclaws at once without dying.

Its hilarious how fucking OP they are compared to anything but the player.
>>
There are people in this thread right now who don't use Arbitration and enjoy true suffering as a bloatfly larva caves their skull in from sheer impact force.
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>>124919262
Plant a bottlecap mine outside the gate. Stack all the bodies on top of it, and start shooting into the pile until the mine vaporizes them.
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>>124918995
thank you but is there currently anything similar to what I was asking for in the post to make picking up items similar to past fallout games? or just makes scavenging easier? seems like there should be if not.
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>>124919262
>drag bodies out
>dump them in river
>completely gib them so they dont wash up later
>fast travel to diamond city to buy shipments for moar turrets
>fast travel back
>all the gibs spawn just above the ground and fall back where the bodies were before I hauled them out
>mirv the whole place and move to the greygarden highway
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>Enclave DLC
>They revive your spouse
>Track them down
>They'll let you have her back if you join their ranks
>Their first mission is killing every ghoul in goodneighbor, including Hancock

Do you do it?
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>>124919262
Drag them away or use markfordelete.

And enjoy everything in the town still being "owned" including the beds.
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>>124919340
If they land and the bird doesn't crash on their head they do alright. Pretty big if, though.
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>>124919483
Like thats even a fucking dilemma. Youre really bad at designing stakes 2bh.
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>>124919192
I'm not.
I have seen vertibirds get shot down, but thats the shitty AI flying around like retards using the minigun instead of unloading troops.

But ive seen multiple times where they will go to dangerous areas on the map and fly around hunting down like 7 deathclaws in a row.
Also idk why people are saying the knights are so weak, on very hard and survival they can kill entire outposts of raiders.

And even though these guys are saying shit like oh military trained soldier can only kill 15 raiders before dying, if youre one guy running into a base of armored raiders with automatic weapons, youre still going to get punched full of holes.
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>>124919520
disgusting graphics, what is this PS1?
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>>124919483
Please dont bring back the enclave, let them rest in the annals of lore. No reason to keep reviving them
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>>124919483
>Hankek

Without a second thought.

>killing Daisy

Only if she gets replaced by another (non-buggy) trader.
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>>124919483
I murdered my way across the commonwealth so I could destroy the last remains of my family, why would I turn around and want my wife back all of a sudden? You should be writing for Bethesda, you'd fit right in.
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>>124919520
that looks awful
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>>124919620
heh
anals
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>>124919483
No.
I will harvest them for armors and pencils.
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>>124919520
I think will look somewhat better without the DoF. Still, what ENB preset? Care to post link?
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>>124918781
>not having planters in a greenhouse worked by robots
>vertibird gets within a mile it gets shot down by 3 dozen missile turrets and 5 dozen heavy gating laser turrets

SWERVE

>>124919481
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/2437/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/4814/?
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>>124919483
>hey revive your spouse
Nothing would make me happier in real life
>>
It really makes no fucking sense that I should have loading screens that are literally more than 1 minute long. Even with "le 3,5GB gfx" it shouldn't be this broken. I have to quicksave and quickload every time I get somewhere because all textures refuse to load.
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>>124919483
>The Institute takes Shaun and the only way I can "get him back" in any sense is buy joining their fucked organization
>Implying I didn't slaughter them and gladly nuke them
>Implying I wouldn't do the same to The Enclave for fucking with my spouse.

I'll use their uniforms for my settlers.
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>>124919483
ENCLAVE HERE
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>>124919483
>including Hancock
Nope
>>
>Computer terminals in the Railroad HQ state they have no fucking idea who founded the faction or what the faction was doing before 2066 when their first HQ got raided
>Only Deacon knows
>He reuses to tell anyone.

WHO THE FUCK IS DEACON REALLY?
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>>124920019

The Lone Wanderer
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>>124919952
>fucking with your spouse
Uh, she was dead. They did you a favor of sorts.
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>>124919814
>implying manual labor peons have the mental faculties to set up and maintain turrets and robots
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>>124917657
>the special animations they have to suck blood makes them nerve cracking
FUCK BLOODBUGS GOD DAMN SHIT SHIT
JUST KILL THEM ALL WITH FIRE
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>>124919051
I know that feel. I just sold off a chest full of like 50 worthless legendary items I had been hoarding for no particular reason, but because they were legendaries.

It's especially bad for me since I don't use VATS at all. A huge chunk of legendary effects (and perks for that matter) apply only to action points, vats hit chances, or criticals so they're completely worthless for me.

And it's even worse because I use power armor 24/7 making nearly all armor legendaries worthless as well. The only exception is charisma boosting limb armor pieces which I use for speech checks and bartering.

And I run a rifleman build so the only weapons worth getting legendaries for are the combat rifle, assault rifle, and gauss rifle. And scratch the combat rifle off that list because you can just buy a combat rifle with the best legendary effect it can have.

So when I get a legendary I roll a one in a million dice that I'm going to land a gauss rifle with a legendary effect that doesn't suck balls.
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>>124920019
He's just some fucked up former raider who started a farm with his synth wife who got lynched and then NOTHING COULD WAKE HIM UP INSIDE.
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>>124920019
I'm expecting some kind of Solas thing from DAI honestly. Never trust a bald man.
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Who needs armor when you have Jet?

>>124917124
Thanks anon. I can now spam the thread with more than just pictures.
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>>124920019
A diamond city guard.
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>>124918325
please responds
>>
For those ultimate Shopkeepers, do you really need to use rank three of the shops?
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>>124919483
>They revive your spouse
>They'll let you have her back if you join their ranks
Nah, man. You can keep her.
Now, bring me a talking deathclaw and I'll think about it.
>>
>>124920019
>>124920141
Deacon is you from the future and Curie is his wife
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>>124920019
Some faggot who would rather be reading Proust than shooting mutants in the face
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>>124919262
console commands
might as well do it with the turrets while you're at it, they don't give your settlement any defense. And if you place down a new turret, it will start shooting the other turrets.
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>>124920141
>believing his lies
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>>124920090
>Did you a favor of sorts
In what way? Giving me my spouse back pro-bono would be a favor. Holding my spouse a hostage and/or forcing me to join them just to be together with them again is not a favor. It's a Jew-favor or something.
>>
>>124917869
Waiting for a PA UI rework. Not a fan of the gauges.
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>>124920234
i want all predestination underage gaylord shit heads to leave now
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>>124920019
>WHO THE FUCK IS DEACON REALLY?

A failsafe system used to reboot the RR whenever it gets close to being wiped out, so the 'Tute can continue the RR's classified experimental mission.
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>>124920019
A junkie from goodneighbour.

>>124920261
Alright, fuck this settlement. Im setting supply line and never coming back.
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>>124920138
It's really shit until you get something good.
I just got a instigating six-crank laser musket which I feel is even more OP than doubleshot gauss
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>>124920231
>he doesnt know deathclaws can speak already
>doesnt know Todd made them into generic Ogres that move faster
confirmed underage
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>>124917961
>Railroad
>SJW terrorists

Or, you know... the Underground Railroad.
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>>124920420
>muh elitism that I played fo1 and fo2
not even him buck fuck off, those games where shit
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>forced to use the shit industrial light for the whole settlement because light bulbs refuse to work at all since the update
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>>124920474
what is the difference?
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>>124920320
>>124920064
Both of these seem valid. He's easily the least shitty character in the game
>Deacon mentions several times as you travel with him, that he used to reside in the Capital Wasteland, or perhaps has been there before. This is shown as he says things such as how the water there was drinkable (referencing Project Purity)
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>>124918325
>>124920207

just 1 unit of ammo will be enough, they will use the weapon, but won't spend ammo.

still need that 1 unit though
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>>124919483
I'd only join them If they brought back my wife as a badass cyborg and she eventually comes to command them in the commonwealth


Mmmm, just imagine it. The female protagonist/their voice being a cold badass cyborg dominatrix trying to rebuild their life from before the war, asking you to join them.
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>>124920150
>kept him in my party all game
>he leaves and takes all the fucking nice gear i had on him
>dont get it back
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How do I get castle up and running? There's a big thing blocking a wall, the queen is dead and the tower doesn't do anything.
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>>124920659

Follow the orders of Pressedin Gravy, General.
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>>124920614
thanks
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I don't think this is a game for gamers
I think this is a game for posers, and normalfags
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>>124917243

>cant kill faction leaders you dont like when you want because that would ruin the rigid

kek

>kill caesar in new vegas
>no real consequences
>replaced by person you can't meet until end of game, when you're going to wipe out that faction anyway

>kill every NCR troop in the dam
>they're a small part of a huge military and even their leader can be replaced easily by NCR high command
>even if they lose the dam, nothing of consequence happens to their faction

immersed
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>>124920772
Fuck, I have to become a minuteman? I ignored them from the start
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>>124915095
Wow that general is fucking dead already after how many weeks now since release?

Topics are moving abysmally slow without much burgers being online now.

Just 3 more hours and it will feel alive in here again.
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>>124916451
Noice, i hope Lockheed Martin doesn't fuck up the compact high beta fusion reactor prototype.

Fusion cells soonâ„¢ gents.
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>>124920826
Good thing I'm a normal fag then
>calling yourself a "gamer"
might as well wear a shirt saying "Hi! I'm an autist!"
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Newfag here... I finished the first 2 Fallouts the other day. Since I'm more rpg oriented, Fallout 1 became my favorite game of the series and I'm gonna play it again soon probably. I've never had as much fun with a Fallout game as I did with 1. I thought then I would end up loving Fallout 2 even more, but holy shit...

Combat felt like shit through the whole game. Too many times I would die without causing much damage at all, only to reload a save and get through the same fight with nearly no damage. I had that same problem maybe 2 times in fo1. I felt like my luck was far worse in 2 than 1 (my luck was 9 in fo2) with many times missing up to 3 times in a row with a 95% chance to hit. Constantly getting knocked over every fucking turn against aliens or flouters was fucking terrible too. I had to stop for the day when I got the stonewall perk and then got knocked down in the FIRST round of the next fight I had. I never felt like I was at the right level for the shit I fought.

I still don't know if my charisma stat was too low (6) but the amount of times I was called out for being a tribal was just weird. People still giving me shit about being a tribal as I wore Enclave power armor seemed really fucking stupid. Did the Chosen One have an accent or something? Why? Isn't my grandfather the Vault Dweller? Only 80 years with 2 generations and we've become shamanists who worship Vault 13? The elder is the fucking daughter of the Vault Dweller! Was there some scam she was pulling to keep power or something that I missed? On that topic, what the hell is the shaman doing? He actually has magic?!

With an intelligence of 9, I felt like I had far too few options to understand what others were talking about. Too many times, especially with the President, it seemed like the only option was to be confused with his motives. He can tell me he wants to kill all mutants, and I can ignore it, or say "duh...I'm not a super mutant..."
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>>124920831
>>even if they lose the dam, nothing of consequence happens to their faction
> trying to conquer New Vegas
> BTFO the Mojave
> nothing
nice meme going there
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>>124920118
>implying the graygarden robots haven't been working for hundreds of years
>implying any turret maintenance is needed when they instagib everything
even a super mutant can load a missile launcher, if you start up on reloading them
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>>124920984
I know how you feel. Fallout 1 was amazing and Fallout 2 was meh as fuck.
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>>124920614
>>124920812
This is actually how all non-companion NPCs work, including enemies.

Remember to give them a single grenade too. One grenade = infinite grenades. And remember that when fighting enemies. If they throw a grenade at you, they're not going to run out.

Mini nukes are an exception though. Which is why you may have noticed that a raider with a fat man may switch to a different weapon after shooting at you and won't have any mini-nukes on him when you kill him.
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>>124921019

>NCR goes west
>waits for legion to fall apart
>goes back east

anyway it doesn't matter because ncr winning is canon lads
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>>124920984 (cont)

I finished the game pretty much out of obligation, but I don't ever plan to play it again. Worst game in the series in my opinion. But I can't find anyone else with my opinion. The only other people who I can find who say Fallout 2 is terrible are fucks with opinions such as "Not an fps. 1/10", "Worse graphics than Fallout 3", or "Dialog options don't tell me if I'll succeed or not. How's that fair?" Am I alone in this? Am I the only sane person who hates Fallout 2? Am I not sane? Did I just have an extremely unlucky run?

Or, if I'm just full of shit... Defend the fact that Arroyo was founded by Vault 13 exiles, but 1 generation later they are indistinguishable from tribals. Protip: you can't
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There is a lack of Nora today. Let's fix that
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>>124920980
Go back to tumblr please, do yourself a favor.

>>124920118
Just making the game tell you what's broken and being able to fix it without going there would make settlements decently playable.
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>>124920831
>nothing of consequence happens

How about you play the game before talking shit?
Even Hanlon's death causes major shit for the NCR, like the rangers being basically disbanded.
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>>124920536
>what is the difference?

One isn't the target of lolsoedgy posts.
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>>124921108
>Defend the fact that Arroyo was founded by Vault 13 exiles, but 1 generation later they are indistinguishable from tribals. Protip: you can't

And the people of Vegas, despite not getting hit by the war, didn't manage to do shit in 200 years besides develop into warring tribal groups until House brought them together a mere 7 years before the game began.

On the east coast, in that same timeframe, numerous cities such as Megaton and Diamond city had been established for 100+ years, and had long distance trade routes all up and down the coast.

everyone on the west coast outside California are retards.
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>>124920826
>I don't think this is a game for gamers

What is a "gamer", wise anon?
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I want a DLC taking place under water. Preferably spooky.
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>>124921165
>There is a lack of Nora today. Let's fix that
>literally 9 posts of her
>lack
nice excuses to self insert your shitty version of her


>>124915231 >>124915321 >>124915765 >>124916006 >>124917018 >>124917676 >>124918041 >>124918192 >>124920152
ALL NORA
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>>124921212
>Go back to tumblr
Never been, I've seen enough screen-caps to know to stay away from that cesspool.
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>>124921358
Someone who wants to play games instead of movies
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>>124920984

Shutup! Fallout 2 was an awesome ROLEPLAYING game that didn't force you into a set background that followed you throughout the game, didn't significantly limit your responses, and took into account your SPECIAL stats and allowed you to play exactly the way you wanted.

Bethesda must have gone back in time and ruined it for you or something.
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>>124920826
Back to /v/ you go
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>game involves building shit
>have to glitch and use cheats to build anything like this
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>>124921352
Not that guy, but that's the same as saying "why were the germanic tribals savages for 200 years while the Romans were civilised and were doing all sorts of shit!?".

Tribals are tribals. That's how the people in the Mojave were, they were not developing anything.

But the people in the East Coast have cities, everything, yet it feels like the bomb fell 20 years ago and they are stuck in that for 200 years even though they have all reasons, motivation and resources to develop.
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>TFW you run into a set of T51b
Why is it so perfect
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who /worryingtype/ here
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>>124921602
> videogames
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>Outfit my peasants in combat armor and every spare gun I happen to have when I visit them
>Some of them are toting low level legendaries
>Hai we've got this feral ghoul problem go kill them pls or we'll stop being your friend
>Go to the location
>A single ghoul crawls out from underneath a truck

This shit is unbearable.
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>>124920984
Maybe you build was shit.

Fallout 2 is overall a lot better rpg than FO1. And has 2-3 times more content. Most of skills have bigger amounts of use (repair/science in Sierra military base etc, although some of them are still worthless to put points into) and the combat builds are a lot more balanced.

Also mutants/Master was a lot more interesting than enclave but its just personal opinion.
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>>124920309
Same, using the clean UI atm.
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>>124921352
East Coast didn't get hit that much, west coast was totally annihilated by chinese nukes.
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>>124921697

I think his point was that the entire population of Vegas was safe from nuclear harm and yet somehow they devolved from pre-war humans with morals into faggots with spears in a short amount of time and then decided to stay that way for 200 years
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>>124915209
>BoS
US Army
>Institute
Nerd Terrorists
>Railroad
Politically Correct Hippies
>Minutemen
We suck, but at least we're trying

Minutemen ftw
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>>124921352
>And the people of Vegas, despite not getting hit by the war, didn't manage to do shit in 200 years besides develop into warring tribal groups until House brought them together a mere 7 years before the game began.

To be fair, a nuclear bomb doesn't have to directly hit you to fuck you up.

And Vegas, like Salt Lake and Phoenix was very much a city that depended on outside resources- resources from very far away. These places are more or less is in the middle of nowhere. At least compared to the East Coast, where there's a major city/decently large town/suburb every 30 minutes.

And Vegas is in the middle of a desert, as opposed to the forests and swamps of the East Coast.
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0-5 start a new char
6-8 keep char
9 reroll
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>>124921680
I know that feel, the best generators don't fit in buildings so you have to cheat the walls into place to make a two wall high building.

Get the homemaker mod. Adds powerful generators that can fit inside normal houses without feeling too cheaty.
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>>124921394
>Nora

I haven't even touched the main quest.

This YOU CAN'T RP meme is stale.
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What is the best settlement to build upon. By that I mean where the ground is somewhat leveled and not having hills that go up and down. Also reasonable size to truly build stuff and not just small huts.
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>>124921965

have fun
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>>124921421
>Someone who wants to play games instead of movies

So people who don't play any games with cutscenes?
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>>124921912
>Politically Correct
What part of "we consider manufacturing humans to use them as slaves is wrong" don't you understand?
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>>124920984
The only thing that ruined fo2 for me around 10 years ago when i was a kid was the fact that they had to shove millions of shitty references to most of dialogues/locations (nothing wrong with special encounters tho), but other than that i liked it.
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>>124921697
> and resources
Except here is the thing, they don't.

Clean water is the fundamental key to civilization, and no place on the east coast has it in large quantities.

Also
>>124921909
This
>>124921886
You got that backwards m8. the east coast was hit FAR harder then the west. Theres not shit in the west for the Chinese to want to nuke outside of LA and San Fran
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/r/ drawfag image of Nora and synth Shaun taking a bath together with Nora washing Shaun everywhere with her lathered up hands, with Shaun saying "M-mommy, I c-can wash myself...hnng!"
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>>124922064
Probably the drive-in, but it looks pretty shitty with all the pavement.
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>>124918808
Not him but god damn for being the sneaky poorfag faction their combat dudes sure kick ass, you need a power armored knight to at least have a chance to wreck them between their gauss and railway rifles

Guess I'm just lucky at bunker hill nobody gave a fuck about me
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What's an useful weapon? Currently I have Kellogs gun modded to like 180 damage but it still feels like literally nothing. And a Gauss rifle is too slow.
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>>124919620
they're still around though

there is a base in chicago and i'm sure there are smaller outposts across other american cities
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>>124922069
> has cutscenes therefore is a movie
Does the phrase LINEAR PASSIVE EXPERIENCE have any meaning to you?
You know, as opposed to "non-linear interactive", which is what most games are.
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>>124922064

tight spots are the most fun though
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>>124920178
We should compile a list of all his disguises. I'm pretty sure he's there on pretty much every step of your journey after you leave Concord. He even disguised himself as a deathclaw egg in salem :^)
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>>124921571
Well at least you could roleplay a slut, a boxer or a thug hired by one of fours major mafia families all in one city. Haven't found a single brothel in fo4 yet :^(

Tribal background/finding geck indeed locks you into some route but it quickly becomes secondary goal while you enjoy wasteland, and it doesn't even compare to frustration i had in FO3 over looking my retarded dad and fixing his stupid water pump.
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>>124921571
Man, I said Fallout 1 is my favorite of the series right off the bat. The first point I made. Which sentence was the only one you read?

>>124921850
I don't know. My build was better than my build in Fallout one I guess. I had like 9 agility, 10 perception, 9 luck (all endgame of course, but that's when I smashed my keyboard the most) 175% in laser weapons... I think I may have fucked up my perk selection, but I'm not sure. I picked mostly what I did in Fallout 1 I think.

>Also mutants/Master was a lot more interesting than enclave but its just personal opinion.

That too. Idk, I liked the Master as the BBEG. The President and Horrigan were let downs for me
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>>124922234
>Not him but god damn for being the sneaky poorfag faction their combat dudes sure kick ass, you need a power armored knight to at least have a chance to wreck them between their gauss and railway rifles

I think Bunker Hill is the entirety of their force, and it seems to be completely defensive. When they're out in the field, pretty much all they have are sneaky/weak agents.

And they certainly don't have enough of those troops or resources to send out on patrols/assaults the way the BoS, Institute, or even the Minutemen do.
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>>124922313
Diamond City Guard
Drifter in Goodneighbour
In pod in Memory Den
Caravan Trader in Bunker Hill

That's all of them. Also there's a place overlooking Vault 111 with a Railsign marked on it for "ally" or "safe" or whatever. So he could've been watching you from the get go
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>>124922146
Most of the primary targets are in the west/mid-west, secondary targets like population centers have no strategic value
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>>124922313
He disguised himself as a goblin out front of Diamond City once. You had to help him get in.
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>>124922194
What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>124922286
>that artillery
the minutemen everyone
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>>124922064
>not creating your own level ground with concrete blocks
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>>124922537
Someone at bethesda thought it would be cool, but it turned out to be dogshit. The disco ball is pretty neat though.
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>>124922537
To put them above sanctuary settlers beds and give them chinese torture
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>>124922537

Party rooms
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>>124922568

>not wanting artillery on top of your clinic aimed at a wall 5 feet away
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>>124922504
>secondary targets like population centers have no strategic value
Besides the fact it was a war of annihilation, not a tactical war of "destroy only their military shit"
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>>124922286
One day I'll be good at that settlement shit. Or at least get a mod that has them all prebuilt in unique ways
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>>124922427
Fuck man. I was just about to sleep and you had to trigger my nostalgia. Not only I have to feel bad about accepting FO4 as Far Cry spinoff, I'm going to have nightmare about getting my ear bitten off.
>Yes, it's your ear. After seeing this you're probably going to load your save.
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>>124922194
Go home Oedipus, you're drunk.
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>>124922272
>You know, as opposed to "non-linear
interactive", which is what most games are.

*Most* games consist of your character going from the left to the right or down a preset path until an enemy or puzzle pops up to be overcome.

If those count as "non-linear interactive" experiences, then Fallout 4 definitely qualifies.
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>>124922450
Fair point, my own points might not be that stable but I blame the clusterfuck of contradictions with the story
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Hello anon. You love and care for your fellow sanctuary settlers, right?
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>>124922695
>>124922286
>>124922568
You see Ivan, when aim artillery like me, you shall never shoot the inaccurate because of fear of shooting wall
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>>124922793
What about removing your sixth toe in vault city? I think you got it from radiation or chems
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>>124922860
Named settlers are worst settlers.
>Can't move to another town
>Can't assign supply route
>If assigned to a shop, will slack off and do other shit
JUST
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>>124922807
These games allow you to make decisions :^)
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http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Red_Tourette

Why can't I bargain with her to help save her sister?

Why can't I just do it for free?

Why is she hostile immediately?

Why can't I save her sister for one of those turrets she has?

Why do I have to kill everyone?

Why?
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>>124920826
>I don't think this is a game for autists
>I think this is a game for normal people
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>>124922972
>These games allow you to make decisions :^)

So does Fallout 4.
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>>124922194
>everywhere with her lathered up hands, with Shaun saying "M-mommy, I c-can wash myself...hnng!"

Degenerate smut. Where's Caesar's Legion when you need 'em?
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>>124922860
I like Sturges. Not a fan of Furious Ming and her miserable tag a long
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>>124922980
The sister's already dead, that's why the letters start referring to her as "Red" rather than her real name, on top of complaining about the food sent.
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>>124922064
Jamaica Plains, despite being tiny and shitty at first glance, has a decent sized flat parking lot.
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>>124922860
I put an assault mask on him and gave him some nice armor so he wouldn't look like such a faggot.
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>>124922980
Because it would've involved putting effort into the game
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>>124922759

Brb moving to Idaho
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>>124922980
because thats not part of the CINEMATIC EXPERIENCE. your character is a good guy and would NEVER side with the BAD GUYS
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>>124923154
Todd is such a cunt.
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>>124923120
>Alright you little mutie faggot, I have ammo to spare
>essential because killing kids is b-b-b-b-bad someone might get t-t-t-t-t-t-t-triggered
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>>124923064
>so he wouldn't look like such a faggot.
Need to find some armor that would fix his beta posture, and then maybe try to hook him up with pooper.
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>>124922759

Damn. I thought that living out in the country between Houston and Austin would keep me far enough outside the blast zone. There's a nuke planted right on top of my town.
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>>124923154
Poor Red, I regret shanking her to death, perhaps she is now with her sister in raider paradise, with lots of drugs and food
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>>124922860
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>>124922625
>>124922064

yeah just use platforms and shit

also generous use of the noclip trick
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>>124922980
This one bothered me so much.
Theres actually little evidence that Red's gang are actually raiding besides their models in game. To me it appears that Red lead her group to the stockpile, and shes just trying to keep everyone fed, even though someone kidnapped her sister, so, pretty much the same shit the player is doing. Feeding people and saving people. Her death and this whole scene was so fucking unjustified, it never sat right with me. You literally have no reason to kill Red or her crew.
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>>124923012
I actually think this is a game for autists that cannot comprehend basic human emotion or thought. Everything is lined up in a logical binary fashion (yes, no, maybe = yes) so you can't get lost in useless creativity that might frustrate you :^)
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>>124923120
>>124923285
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>>124923048
>DUCT TAPE CAN'T FIX PEOPLE
>I LIKE FIXING THINGS NOT BREAKING THEM
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>>124923379
>noclip trick
Please explain
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>>124923018
>Where's Caesar's Legion when you need 'em?

Busy fucking each other in the ass.
>>
Has someone made a mod to add those little wall and ceiling turrets to the settlement system yet? Someone should get on that.
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>>124922064
The Castle is flat and comfy. Not huge but you can build one to three decent sized structures in there. It's in one of the highest-level zones in the game so it'll get invaded frequently by strong invasion forces (huge groups of supermutants, for instance), but if you repair the walls it only has one small chokepoint as an entrance and is extremely defensible, and on the exterior it has a lot of space for water purifiers if that's your dig.

Starlight Drive-In isn't in a particularly comely location and has no special geography to draw you to it or anything, but it's bigger than average, almost totally flat, has only two major indestructible structures which are at the edges, has a pool of water big enough for a couple of purifiers, and though it has a major radiation hotspot, that can be cleared by scrapping the barrels and cars in the centre. It's basically a sandbox for building.

Spectacle Island is HUGE. I'm pretty sure it's the largest settlement in the game by a large margin unless there's one I haven't found yet that's somehow larger. It isn't all flat terrain but it's a whole fucking island to build on. It's larger than most cities in Bethesda games by a good bit.

It's worth noting that most smaller settlements let you build higher. Red Rocket and Hangman's Alley for example are good for vertical building. The latter is creatively restrictive but very comfy imo.
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>>124922759
>All those SUPAH SECRET! military bases up in Montana and North Dakota are this much in the public knowledge
Way to go Ameriacunts
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>vertibirds
>power armor
>computers
>nobody can manage to get a fucking car working
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POST CHARACTERS
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bonus for time lapses
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>>124923716
They do have working cars, and motorcycles, we just dont see the min-game because the landscape is too much of a scaled down hellish shithole for them to work properly.
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Want some ballin new synth eyes?
https://mega.nz/#!OJUh3AQC!iWAljNk8triw_xNdj2EwS8DA0EXP4woqzmfZl_ToWqg

>>124915683
Only if he'd want to. After all this time he seems pretty comfortable in his robot skin.
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>>124923716
>no roads left
>petty much no even ground anywhere
I can see why they don't bother t.b.h.
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>>124923716
They are not as great as you think without roads.
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>>124923716

imagine bethesda trying to put driving in their game
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If I turn Curie into a synth, will I still be able to bring her onto the airship?
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>console mods supposedly when GECK releases
>first on the xbone
>the absolute worst console to put them on due to inferior hardware
I get it now, the cheaper hardware was used to save money for licensing. "Buy it now before anyone can tell you it's shit, get it first on xbox!"
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>>124923930
yes
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>>124923817
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>>124923549
Not him but
>set down object
>tcl in console
>pick up object, then cancel movement with tab
>since you're in noclip mode and picked up the object it's now in noclip mode, and you can place things inside its collision box until you exit build mode
It's mainly good for making junk fences without holes.

If you're REALLY autistic you can use "modpos [x/y/z] #" to move placed objects bit by bit and do really nice looking shit like stringing lightbulbs on wires.
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There is never going to be a Bethesda game where I don't find this satisfying.

>>124922980
I thought this too when I read the terminals, I wish there were Bandit mini factions so that quests like this could be had.

Imagine,
>Go in get held at gunpoint to be robbed, asks if you're from Tower Tom's gang.
>If you grill her on Tower Tom she mentions he stole her sister.
>Through a persuade check(easy one) you can offer to try and find her sister.
>Tower Tom obviously bribes you to go back and kill her for a reward or something.
>If you kill Tom, read his terminal and talk to Red she says she owes you and you can get her to settle with her crew at one of your settlements(Or something), that or she gives you access to her food stockpile or something.

It really wouldn't have been that hard to implement.
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>>124923919
>they're skyrim horses wearing cars as clothing
>if you listen closely you still hear their hooves
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>>124923930
yes, they literally dont give a shit. I punched Maxson with Strong following me and all he did was ask what I thought I was doing.
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>>124923874
comparison (actual sizes)

still have to attempt to make a normalmap for it
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>>124920019
A top-notch record producer who was one of the masterminds behind the rise of the South.
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>>124922654
>Someone at bethesda thought it would be cool, but it turned out to be dogshit. The disco ball is pretty neat though.

Yeah I put one of the disco balls in Nat's bedroom at my Sanctuary Hill house I live in with her.
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>>124922534
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>>124923710
>he thinks they're secret
>not isolated for security sake and accident mitigation
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Is it just me or can you not use the number pad for Favorites anymore after the update?
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>>124924016
see
>>124923154
having non-binary character morality would confuse the target audience.
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>Accidently steal a tin can
>Codsworth flips his shit
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>>124924291
See>>124923389

Her being a bad guy is debateable but I see your point.
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>>124915683
No, I'd order the institute to create a more inhuman metal body with added strength, limbs and processing power then put him in that, referring to him from then on as "mecha shiva" while he begs me to kill him.
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>>124924016
fucking this. We need a raider faction in 4 so bad.

The raiders have never been as human and real as they are in this one with all their infighting and feuding and shit. There's so much story going on between bean town and the stockpile and the Forge and Easy City, this should definitely be a playable plot line/faction, they dropped the ball.
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>>124924017

like that guy talking about trains a while ago

there are train tracks in the game, follow them once and imagine a train actually trying to use them.
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>>124922654
>>124924198
> Lighting from bulbs is shit
> has to put a fan with bulb in every room to get some light
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>>124924297
>can't take Codpiece to Tinker Tom/Amara/BoS/Institute to "tune up" his personality
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I want to play as a dude in power armor removing the scum and filth of the wasteland, from ghouls to the dirty peasants of the wasteland. And maybe even building a army of pure wastelanders in the process.

Whats the best game to do this in?
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RAPE NAT
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>>124924281
Not sure, I didn't use it to begin with. I did however notice that the key to grab items out of containers used to be tied to the Jump key (spacebar by default) and the update seems to have separated it.

It's hard to explain, but before I had Jump set to E and activate to Spacebar, and I had to hit E to grab shit out of containers or enter a power suit. Now its spacebar.
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>According to New Vegas, the peoples of Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, and Arizona, all failed to produce any sort of anything resembling civilization, outside of New Canaan, and were nothing more then spear chunking tirbal groups outside of a very few amount of small towns like post-war Tuscon, which were such as massive shitholes they make D.C. look good.

Why did Obsidian have to make such a huge chunk of America boring shit?

>East coast is like mad max
>Midwest has the MwBoS
>Cali has the NCR
>everything else that isn't the south is HERP DE DERP! tribals
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>>124922980
Feeling bad and allying with raiders isn't the right message people want to be sending to their kids.
Really though, with how much infrastructure raiders have, and how much backstory they have it feels like Bethesda had plans for them but it got axed.
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>>124922759
>nuking Reno
Now that's just petty
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>>124922980
>FREE
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how the hell do i get positiv reactions from Curie?

is there an easy way to farm her affection?
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>No way to disallow ghoul settlers
Reeeeeeeeeeee
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>>124924523
New Vegas. Just because there are no essentials except one.
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>>124924198
LOVE NAT
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>>124924291
>having non-binary character morality would confuse the target audience.

we're the target audience and were discussing it. If they want to make it CINEMATIC or something for the good characters, make it hard to join the raiders, or come with the realistic consequences of becoming one, whatever. Theres no justification beyond laziness, they clearly intended for there to be an engaging and important story there they just decided to half ass it when they were 80% through it.
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>>124924623
>farming affection
Awful way to murder immersion. But yeah, she likes it when you stim Dogmeat. You know what to do.
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>>124924623

beat the shit out of dogmeat in front of her, then heal him with a stimpack
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>tfw you will never teach Curie what sexual pleasure is
;_;
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>>124924675
>hey clearly intended for there to be an engaging and important story there they just decided to half ass it when they were 80% through it.
Not him but, have you EVER played a Bethesda game before?

BEthesda does all this note shit in EVERY game they make, that doesn't mean they ever intended you to join the raiders or bandits or w/e, it just means they made these notes because they wanted to give them some backstory.
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>>124924523
F4. Join BoS, pretend they're the Enclave, and vaporize the rest of the CW, leaving bots at Greygarden to grow food.
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>>124923817
K
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>>124922759
>West Kansas isn't lit the fuck up

All that's there are military forts and barbecue restaurants
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>>124924865
Whats your RP reason for being so fucked up BEFORE you went to the vault?
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>>124924678
>>124924741

yeah, this and "donating items"

Isnt there any other way? At least Piper likes it when i pick some locks
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>>124924865
I'm having the strongest sense of Deja Vu I have ever had. I remember you posting another set of images of this character in this same exchange
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>>124924654
>not exiling draugr settlers to Ghoulsville
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>>124924675
Nah, Bethesda likes to do the bullshit, "But wait! Maybe what you did wasn't all good! Not everything is black and white!" after making you do something you had no control over
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>>124922537
I just threw this together to demonstrate but I think you're supposed to have a bunch at once so they flash rapidly and irregularly, like a rave or something.
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>>124915231
I want to lick Nora's armpits!
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So how come Bethesda has been slowly making it harder and harder to completely murder entire populaces in their games?

Like, you could just straight-up kill everyone in Balmora, or Vivec City, if you wanted, and had the tools to do so. I'm pretty sure you could kill pretty much anyone, except for children, and super story-related characters, like Dad, or Sarah Lyons, or whatever. But then Fallout 4 is just filled to burst with essential characters. Why do they do this?

I mean, is it to cater to people who don't save often? Because they fucking deserve to have their save ruined if they decide to kill someone they think is important before saving/don't just save often and early in general to be safe.

I mean, I honestly don't see how it could bring in more sales in any way, if anything, a lot of people just end up annoyed they can't shove a super sledge far into the colon of Marcy Long. I know mods fix this shit with really no problem at all, but it feels kind of strange you need to mod that to begin with.
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>>124924989
No. Aside from that, just doing quests and being empathetic is her shtick. Even if you fail dialogue options to avoid combat she'll like that you tried.
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>>124924668
Oh I do, like a good and caring father.
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>during RR missions you're told that you're the only Heavy besides Gloria
>suddenly dozens of them everywhere
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>>124925065

but the game has no house music
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Any good Fallout waifus?
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>>124924995
I have a bad habit of rerolling, but she's only a lot similar and not identical

>>124924976
Burned as a kid being silly - it's only burns and not scar-scars
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>>124925065
Used a timer there, biatch? Good wiring.
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>>124925210
Does the Rifleman perk boost shotgun damage?
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>>124923817
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>>124925304
yes
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>>124924812
of course I have, I know they're very good about including backstory and lore and stuff, but as said here:
>>124924570
> it feels like Bethesda had plans for them but it got axed.

They got an extra amount of emotion, detail and plotline thats above and beyond the usual lore-crafting from Bethesda.

Either way it doesn't mean I'm wrong, saying there should be a playable plot line here is as much a compliment as a complaint.
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>>124919676
to murder her again? Do you even psychopath?
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cylons
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>>124925293
>wiring
>not using a power node to power lights wirelessly
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>>124925127
Because Morrowind was a game were everyone did nothing but stand around in one place all day, and thus never could get attacked by monsters, or suffer physics glitches when transitioning cells.

However, from Oblivion onward people do walk around, go outside, get attacked by monsters, transition cells and regularly fall of shit, etc. etc.

Not making them essential just means the game could break itself making you lose out on content due to no fault of your own, which isn't fair to the play.

At the same time, they game gives you zero reason to attack these NPCs, so unless your just going around and killing people for no reason then shits and giggles, it should never be noticeable.


And before someone tries to pull the
>BUT NEW VEGAS!
Card

NPCs in New Vegas were just as static and non moving as those in Morrowind, which is why they got away with it.
-when does Caesar EVER leave his tent? never
-when does Crocker ever leave his office? never
-When does house move anywhere? never

this even applies to most non essential NPcs also
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Are there any Perks that effect Energy Weapons, or are they folded into things like rifle/heavy, etc Perks?
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>>124917757
It's very fun, as long as you aren't a contrarian autist from /v/ you will have a good time.
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WHERE /DANSE/ AT
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what if there were a fallout faction full of people who only had poorly localized mangas and shit as literature and legitimately thought shit like rice cakes were jelly donuts and hamburgers
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>>124925491
Tesla Science magazine. Rest is rolled in.
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>>124925208
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>>124923710
Hahahaha dumb yanks, can't even hide their nuclear sites properly! Wouldn't catch us bongs making that mistake....
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>>124925460

settlers don't die unless you're the one finishing them off, why can't more characters be like that?

then them getting killed by a random deathclaw won't be an issue.
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>>124925438
Remove toasters.
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>>124925661
This sign isnt real..... right?
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>>124925460
What moving would of NPCs would change, pal?
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>>124925389
Jesus these people
are you edgy 15y/o? Why would you team up with raiders? Just to kill and pillage? Why not play COD instead?
Besides, the main character is supposed to be good dad who tries to find his family in post nuclear world, there is literally zero reason why would he join scum like riders.
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Is there a mod that adds new eyes with an esp yet? I want to give my character synth eyes for my Institute playthrough but I don't want to use a replacer and see random wastelanders walking around with them as well.
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>>124925460
So are you telling us Bethesda forced their hand making people move so they limited player's choices to cover up their own incompetence?
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>>124925460
Actually there were quest giving NPCs in NV that could wander and get murdered by monsters, especially around bitter springs they could be attacked by Legion and killed and you wouldn't be able to receive their quest.

Also they could've easily just made monsters and shit not aggro on them if they wander out into territory if they're a quest giver or something.
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>>124925127
What? FO4 has the least essentials of any Bethesda game since Morrowind. Arena, Daggerfall and Morrowind didn't even have essential characters. Oblivion added them because its "radiant AI" and NPCs that actually had schedules, sometimes traveling all around the region to meet different appointments throughout the week, meant NPCs would often get themselves killed either by monsters or from walking into lava or something, so certain NPCs were protected with essential status until they ceased to be plot-important.

Many non-essential but still important NPCs (like the orc in Skingrad who sells you a house) would still die though, so FO3 had more essential NPCs, and Skyrim had almost everyone who wasn't just a filler character essential AND further reduced the now-nonexistant risk by making it so that NPCs had limited schedules that never led them out of towns AND made all of that unnecessary by adding "protected" NPCs, NPCs that could be killed by the player but not in one hit and could not be killed, only incapacitated, by environmental factors or other NPCs (but only applied this status to followers). Ironically people still got upset when dragons and vampires would kill the small handful of non-essential NPCs in Skyrim and mods had to be made so an unarmed 80 year old peasant woman would run inside instead of charging out to barefist a vampire ancient.

In FO4 only companions (at least until, in most cases, they hate you/leave your service, at which point they become killable) and the Minutemen (who are a failsafe faction if you wipe all the others out, among other things) are essential. You can literally wipe any major faction that isn't the Minutemen out as soon as you meet them. In fact, apart from the Concord settlers, I've yet to meet anyone I tried to kill, even doing the old "quicksave, kill everyone to see what happens, quickload," who was essential.
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>>124925681
Skyrim introduced the "protected" NPc status, which is supposed to prevent NPcs from being able to die by any means but those cuased by the player.

However, the system simply doesn't work, even after they patched it like 3 times in Skyrim, and NPCs can still die due to any number of various indirect things.

Which is why I have seen an umber of settlers die during attacks, despite me not shooting at them at all.

they tried to make it better in Fallout 4, but it simply doesn't work, so they make NPcs essential just so quests dont break.
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>>124925741

>motherfuckers shoot at them on sight with no questions asked
>still want to be friends with them
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Has anyone noticed Knight Rhys has the most exaggerated ass of any character in the game? It's like a shelf. It makes it very hard to take him seriously when he's trying to talk shit to me.
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>>124925741
>how dare people want more roleplaying options in a roleplaying game
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>>124925619
Could perfectely fit, like SWATTERS.
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>>124925709
Yeah.

it's a tourist place of an abandoned Cold War bunker
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What's the best non-power armor armor that I can buy and slowly modify for companions and settlers?
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>>124923817
Don't have a before an after senpai
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>>124925438
share savegame plz
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>>124925741
>Why would you team up with raiders?
Yeah, why would someone roleplay?

>there is literally zero reason why would he join scum like riders
Does not stop him from massacring anyone who Bethesda did not set essential. For fucks sake, you can indirectly murder quite a few children.
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>>124925741
>Why would you want to roleplay in this roleplaying game, what the fuck is wrong with you. Eat the shit role bethesda assigned to you you edgy faggot

please die.
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>>124925891
The game has some RPG options that ultimately lead to finding your son. Siding with raiders would be illogical and retarded, they would rather kill random kind than deliver it to you.
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>>124925801
I'm not sure you know what the word incompetence means.

the VAST majority of RPGs ever made don't allow you to attack random civilian NPCs AT ALL.

Bethesda actually has put more work into trying to balance out
-Living breathing world
and
-shit not getting fucked up due to no fault of your own
then most devs have.

I love how the word incompetent has come to mean
>any design decision I don't agree with
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>>124925848
The fuck you on about? There's no such thing in Skyrim. You got essential NPCs and normal mooks.
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>>124925913
Synth armour.
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>>124925969
>Fallout 4
>Roleplaying
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>>124925293
Nope, strobes have randomised timing on their own so they do that if you just slap a bunch by a conduit. I've yet to mess with lighting panels, partly because I'm turned away by how much power they consume but feel like getting a mod to reduce it would be cheating :^)
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Is VATS the only way to get criticals in FO4? Or is the crit gauge just a way to guarantee a crit on an enemy?
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I've been trying to think up a good fast travel system for when the geck comes out.

Thinking something involving motorcycles that you build in settlements. That way you can get it early in sanctuary and it would make sense. Would provide a nice alternative to fast travel up until you get vertibird support. Because I feel like a scumbag every time I fast travel normally. Especially in power armor.

And once you unlock the Institute, it should make all fast travel happen via relay. Technically you can do that already by just fast traveling to the Institute and then to wherever you want to go. Would be nice to cut out a load screen. Maybe make it cost something to use it in exchange for the convenience.
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>>124926047
You are retarded as shit m8
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Protected_NPCs
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Category:Skyrim-Protected_Creatures
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Category:Skyrim-Protected_NPCs
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>>124926090
>Is VATS the only way to get criticals in FO4?
Yes.
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>>124926026
Raiders don't have to be a major faction, Todd.
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>>124926047
No, protected is a thing. Characters like Lydia that fall to their knees, but still can be executed by the player.
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>>124925741
I will rise to your bait because there's an actual point to be made here beyond your trolling.

>there is literally zero reason why would he join scum like riders
Why would anyone team up with the thieves guild when they're the dragon born? Why would you take Strong as a companion? Why would you do any given slightly evil thing or very evil thing? Its a roleplaying game at its core, even if a lot of the roleplaying has been neutered in FO4. The Raiders in FO4 are more well written, human, and relateable than in any fallout title I can recall. To the point that the writers put in a complicated multi-character backstory plotline involving characters who are arguably no worse than the player character, why go to this effort without giving the player character the ability to act on that plot in a meaningful way?

8.5/10 for subtlety and getting me to respond.
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>>124926194
no, i remember critting when using my alternative/strong attack
>>
GRANDMA PLAYS THE NUMBERS
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>if the game didn't include the specific niche way that I theoretically wanted to roleplay, it's not a roleplaying game
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>>124926031
Allowing people to move around and not solving it through gameplay-related mechanics such as giving them a guard or good combat abilites is the same as putting invisible walls in the middle of locations because characters going there might cause bugs. It's lazy and/or rushed, like the whole game.
This game needed like an extra year of work to feel complete.
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>>124926287
ON MY ROCKET 69, ROCKET 69.
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>>124926069
mesh mods better come quick and fix this ugly piece of shit
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>>124926090
No. There are perks that add crit chance to normal attacks. And the Overdrive drug which has +25% crit chance

>+25% of what?

I don't know anon
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>>124926026
> Siding with raiders would be illogical and retarded, they would rather kill random kind than deliver it to you.

This is apparently not entirely true given the fact that Red and crew are pretty isolationist and theres little reason to believe that they do anything but protect the stockpile for themselves.
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>>124926291
>nd not solving it through gameplay-related mechanics such as giving them a guard or good combat abilites
The problem is that doesn't work, and those NPCs often end up dead regardless of having guards/good combat abilities, as has been tired and proven in many games.

You have no fucing clue what you are talking about, at all.
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>>124926289
>specific niche
Good/bad is not a "specific niche".
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>>124926182
There was a mod that did this in FO3 with a motorcycle. I used it and was definitely a fan. It also gave you some space for storage, which was extra convenient.
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>>124926182
Are you thinking on letting players drive the motorcycle or just as a guided fast travel substitute like the vertibirds but on land?
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>>124926423
>TFW you found Red Tourette because her gang kidnapped Abernathy's wife
Raiders can commit UNLIMITED CRIMES
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>tfw can't explore the wasteland with K-L-E-O at my side


why must existence be such suffering?
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>>124926447
Thank to other devs shit coding Bethesda get a pass, I see. :^)
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>>124926423
>tfw you never had a chance to save Red's sister and bring her back to curry favor
Instead it's just a sad story of a two ladies who are dead now.
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>>124926090
You can get criticals by hitting people with your guns if you have the perk.
Otherwise it's VATS only.
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>>124922759
>That feel when you and all of your relatives would be wiped out in a 500 warhead scenario
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>>124926509
Just a fast travel substitute. Actually driving would be buggy and horrible.
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>>124924620

>DO IT FOR FREE
>LOL THE MEMES
>WELL MEME'D FRIEND :~)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law
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>>124926489

Try making sense next time.
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Why good looking armors have to be shit.
I just want chains on my armor even though they would be unpractical
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>>124926589
Uhh no.

No one gets a pass on shit coding.

Making people simply unable to be killed is the proven solution, and shouldn't come up unless your intentionally trying to break the game by being a retarded edge lord who just kills everyone for shits and giggles.
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>>124926649
I'm sorry that you're retarded.
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>>124926530
Kleo sells stuff that can help you end your suffering
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I'm playing on survival hoping to get some legendaries but I have low luck.
does luck have a lot to do with it ?
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>>124926447
Sorry, I'm lost there, can you give me an example?
In either case you don't need to give NPCs the ability to travel to make the game feel more alive, and they can stand in safe zones like the examples you posted above.
A game does feel alive if their locations are tied together by lore and change according your decisions in game.
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>>124926732
>[idiocy intensifies]
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>>124926706
Mods will fix it.

CBBE tomorrow
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>>124926723
>Making people simply unable to be killed is the proven solution
So what's wrong with the "protected" tag idea?
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Preston. The first minuteman wasteland marine.
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>>124926520
>>124926520
> found Red Tourette because her gang kidnapped Abernathy's wife

ok touche, they're raiders, but as the player character you lie, betray, murder, steal and deceive to get through the main story line many many times. I know the "no black and white" meme is pretty played the fuck out, but the point here is: why write in this much backstory and interesting plotline without giving the players a way to interact with it? The very fact were having this debate shows that there was interest from the fans to see the story play out and be involved in it.
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What can I wear under armor that's not a vault suit? I can't find anything that doesn't make everything else disappear.
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>>124926031
>the VAST majority of RPGs ever made don't allow you to attack random civilian NPCs AT ALL.

This.

People are bitching because they can't kill everyone as if it's some kind of common feature in any game. I've never played a game where you can just up and kill every single NPC and not get a game over or something.
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>>124926845
because Skyrim already proved there are a million loopholes in that. Pay fucking attention.
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>>124926809
What a nice argument you have here, lad!
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>>124926879
>unironically going places with Preston garvey
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>>124925889
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>>124926026
I think someone needs to learn the difference between a story-heavy rpg (Mass Effect, Final Fantasy) and a lore-heavy rpg (Elder Scrolls, Fallout).

Lore-heavy does have story, but it is only secondary to the player doing whatever the hell they want in the world provided
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>>124926879
I can't tell the difference between him and the Institute's Killnigger3000 without the hat.
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>>124926276
>Why would anyone team up with the thieves guild when they're the dragon born? Why would you take Strong as a companion? Why would you do any given slightly evil thing or very evil thing?

To be edgy and get ph4tl3wt5..
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For some reason, I can no longer place stuff inside buildings. Urgh.
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>>124926845
As was explained before, the protected tag doesn't work like it should, despite numerous attempts by both Bethesda, and even the unofficial patch team, and NPCs are still able to die due a number of things.

Non critical NPc like settelers get the protected tag, because its annoying when they die, but it wont fuck anything up, where as quest important NPcs get the essential tag just to make sure they can't die due to some weird as shit glitch.
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>>124926879
Preston a qt.
You and me are like theonly 2 people who actually have him as a follower, right?
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>>124926947
>million loopholes
Aka shit coding. Skyrim did not prove shit except Bethesda incompetence.
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>>124926910
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_4_armor_and_clothing
Without mods the best underarmor is Army Fatigues, IIRC. Allows all 6 armor slots to be used, and can be upgraded with Ballistic Weave once you get the perk
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>>124927045
The first time I saw N1G-G3R in a screenshot I thought it was just Preston in different armor
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I've beat the game, done every side quest, collected every bobblehead and I'm currently level 65.

What should I do now? I want to start over with a melee character but I dont want to abandon my current character.

Are there any cool locations I can check out that arent part of a quest or a bobblehead location?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mdV-HLBiR8&index=6&list=WL
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>>124927096
Good to have general of minuteman as a follower.
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>>124926079
I've modded the large generators to 200 units, everything lower is nonsense.

>generator larger than industrial ones used to emergency power a whole hospital cannot power 200 lightbulbs
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>>124926919
But this is a game that, in fact, allows you to kill anyone except if they "are relevant to the story in any way". The problem is there are a lot of NPCs that aren't relevant to the presented story and still tagged as essential, meaning Bethesda is lazy or they have associated scrapped content.
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>>124927107
and "shit coding" on the modding community too. But feel free to give it a go.
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>>124927174
>GISKARD
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>124927059
>To be edgy and get ph4tl3wt5..

0/10 apply yourself.
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>>124926841

BUTTS ARE COMING?!
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>>124927151
Not really. Take a break for a while.

I'd say "wait for the DLC" but I get the feeling it's going to be another Dawnguard situation where it doesn't come out till June next year.
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>>124927136
If I want to unlock Ballistic weave, do I need to proceed with Tumblroad missions so far that I wouldn't be able to betray them for the institute?
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>>124927198
Oh, I get it now, "protected" tag is apparently impossible to code and requires quantum computer to calculate all of the complex shit so it will function properly. :^)
If it's inherently broken no mods will save you.
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>>124927136
Jesus christ, that's 114 armor on all body parts + armor parts.
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>>124927330
Bethesda did say when making Skyrim they aren't going back to the Fallout 3 style DLC release schedule because it was a hectic mess.

Personally, I would prefer Dawnguard/Dragonborn style DLC over Fo3/NV style DLC, sans Point Lookout/OWB, since they are larger, and feel closer to old style expansions, even if they aren't THAT large.
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>>124927416
no, you get balweave on the other side of the point of no return, you can get it and still complete the story with any other faction.
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>>124927151
collect every legendary
romance every companion
build every settlement to max size
max out all SPECIAL and perk
collect every magazine
play through with opposite gender and choose different dialogue
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>>124927416
You just have to do enough to be able to accept missions from Pam, which I don't think is THAT far in that you're locking off your options.

>>124927449
Yeah, it's crazy. I got a mod that'll let me weave my Vault Suit instead though cause skin tight suits and all
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>>124927504
Maybe thr DLC will give us more options in quests haha...
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>>124927416
You need to do one main Railroad quest and one more settlement quest from PAM

Just pray you get Hangman's Alley instead of Murkwater Construction since it throws a wrench since its far south
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>>124927330
Probably. And good content mods aren't going to come until after that, so better find another game to play. Or two.
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>>124927435
Is the difference between essential and protected that the PC has to personally kill protected NPCs for them to die?
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>>124927416
You get it fairly quickly into doing their retarded mass of dungeon clearing quests
YOU SURE SET UP MILA GOOD GOING ALL HIGH AND SHIET I BET YOU WALK TIGHT ROPES RIGHT MY NIGGA SHUCKY DUCKY QUACK QUACK
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>>124927151

>not level 65,535

fukken casual
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>>124926447
>those NPCs
Nobody actually needed protected status in this game. Just give the super mutant in the glowing sea notes for a teleporter so you get those even if you kill him and let the player build it without help if they have enough intelligence/SCIENCE!. Add a voiceover that says "you ruined everything by killing everyone, you edgelord" and you are good. Keep sidequest peeps in cities. You will probably lose someone on any given play through, but shits tough in the wasteland
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>>124927610
Yes.
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>>124927610
Yeah. But evidently something in that equation is difficult to work with
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>>124926648
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>>124927589
That's been my line of thinking. Get a good basic playthrough in now then walk away until the DLC and good mods start rolling in.

I haven't even touched the settlement stuff once because I know it's currently shit compared to how it'll be in a year or two.
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>>124927174
What the fuck is he saying? Is he talking with 4 sausages in his mouth?
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>>124927136
And its stats apply while wearing power armor and it gives a str buff for extra carry weight.
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>>124927305
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw
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>>124927752
You might not have to wait so long for settlements, if there's as many people pissed off about them as I think there are, and if fixing them is easy with the GECK.
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>Hello. It's nice to meet you. Who can I hide you from today?
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>>124923298
>anywhere near a state capital

you're a goner m8. Especially being near one full of rich assholes like austin.
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>>124927174
>giskard

Nope not getting on that drama rollercoaster again
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>>124927096
Piper is not that brown, what the fuck is wrong with tumblr?
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>>124915209
The irony here is that the Minutemen and the Railroad are the only ones that are actually based on real world institutions, unlike the Institute and BoS
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>>124927174
Northerners need to be burnt at the stake.
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Do dead enemies count as containers for the Luck ammo and caps perks?
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>>124927893
>doing lewd things in stealth suits
I want this
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>>124927962
They see what they want to see.
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>>124922759
what the fuck is in north dakota and montana, and why is it importan enough to get royally fucked in a 2k nuke scenario but not a 500 nuke one
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>>124927962
where to start
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>>124927665

This. You could complete the game via Yes Man in NV if you acted like a twat, the voice-over at the end basically says "You fucked up everything for everyone because you acted like a twat, well done." Bethesda sticking essential status on so many NPCs to ensure you completed the story in a fixed way is an act of sheer laziness, or rather poorly used resources.
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>>124926947
One loophole. Poison (which is only used in vanilla by falmer) can kill protected npcs.
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> This retard can make better videogames with less money
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwn_79rLSMM
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>>124926841
Bullshit. Source or gtfo.
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>>124926638
Where I live in Maine the bombs probably wouldn't kill me, but I would die in the aftermath
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>>124927962
It's tumblr, it's not even uncommon for them to take a normal white character and make them fat, brown, with some shitty half-shaved hairstyle that's dyed three ways. Gotta get that SJW bingo card filled somehow.
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>>124927894

I don't live in Austin.

But the town I live in is between there and Houston and looks to be a target.
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>>124928081
AoE attacks and DoT's too
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>>124925103
same... not sure why
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>>124927183
Normal lightbulbs and lamps don't draw power, only the panels and the mining lamp things.
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>>124928102
I could listen to him talking about NV all day.
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>>124928145
Cap it. Time will vindicate me.
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>>124928157
I just remembered when tumblr almost driven some artist to suicide because they thought their character was not PC enough or some bullshit like that.
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>>124928038
Lots of military bases, though not really nuclear launch bases.
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>Please take this. I don't want you to die
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>>124928212
So literally everything with a 1 flash instead of just the flash symbol?
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>>124928213
Me too, he seems like a good guy to take a beer or two with.
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>>124928102
Obshills out.

>inb4 Avellone joins Beth to write for a good company
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>>124928358
yes
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>>124928345
>tfw no stealth suit with cute voice in FO4
NICE JOB TODD
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>>124925335
O...Odo?
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Why doesn't Bethesda add cars to their games?

>most vehicles in the Fallout universe fall into two categories: pre-war petrol based cars and atomic cars
>after 2-4 years, most, if not all, petroleum-based fuel will gum from bacteria, leaving all forms of gasoline, whether diesel or ethanol mix, useless for power. Ethanol will "rot" even faster due to alcohol's natural tendency to absorb latent moisture. The moisture will decrease octane levels to the point of incombustibility in less than a year, even given the best circumstances

This leaves reactor-based vehicles

>Fallout's reactor-based cars don't run on hydrogen. They generate enough fusion energy per hydrogen core to last the lifetime of the car. This process also generates a shitton of heat. This is why Red Rocket stations sell coolant, not hydrogen.
>These facts ignore the possibility that natural reclamation hasn't ruined most cars. It only takes a few years for grasses and vines to grow into the undercarriage and ruin a car.

B-BUT WE CAN FIX THEM

>Bethesda scales down Fallout's enviroments to the point of nonsense. You can find dozens of unrealistic steep inclines and roads that might as well not even exist due to how small they are. Not to mention the highway is full of road hazards, including nails, pot holes, broken street signs, dead bodies, and of course, more broken cars

tl;dr Just use fast travel and realize brahmin are the best "off-road vehicle" out there.
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>>124928415
We have Avellone to thank for MUH BEAR MUH BULL, Felicia Horseface, and Cass. I think we're better off without him.
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>Always make Marcy farm the Razorgrain because fuck that cunt.
>Grow alot of Carrots because Orange Mentats and placing crops in general
>Only now realize the irony of Mama Murphy's Carrot Farm

Also are there only the 8 gold bars in the game or is it possible to get more?
Things need to be built.
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>>124928470
>Ammo system replaced with the shit magic legendary weapon system
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>>124923298


They're looking to not only kill people and destroy urban infrastructure but also render crucial farmland and water basin unusable for any survivors(for several millenia).

The concept of total destruction is pretty fucked up.
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>>124915454
>Not her butthole
Are you gay or something?
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>>124927893
I cant remember but was talking stealth suit from 3 or NV?
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>>124928470
I'd love a sentient power armour mod. Something that commented on locations and dispensed chems when you needed them.
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>>124928542
>no weapon conditions

I know a lot of people are glad it's gone but I really liked it, especially since you could find some good early game weapons that were in crappy condition you could keep with you until you repaired them.

And it just makes more sense that most things are in shit condition out in the wasteland.
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>>124928613
It's from OWB.
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>>124928613
It's an actual good idea so take your pick
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>>124926841

>CBBE incoming
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>>124928535
>grognards praise MCA to high heaven
>quits Obshit
>they throw him under the bus

Quality people, Obshills.
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>>124928528

We have internal combustion powered generators in the game.

They should have made it all wind power.
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>>124928686
Considering we have a shit ton of scrap and resources now, it'd be the best time for weapon repair.
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>>124928583
I want to smell that too
what do you think it smells like?


Do you think its brown?
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>>124928540
You can get gold from a shitton of golden objects like watches and lighters. I don't think you can make gold bars from them though.
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>>124928542
>>124928686
>>124928470
It was removed because FUCKING MILLENIALS ree
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>play my guy as a cold mercenary melee weapons type anyway
>only do jobs for money, always demand extra from people
>never pick le evil options but don't go for the good options either, just neutral/caps option
>start to play it basically like how I do a Elder Scrolls (single player mmo)
>get bored and finally decide to do main quest and hunt down Kellog
>wipe his shit out easily
>get to the part with his brain
>ohshit.jpg
>character has an existential crisis
>play him full on lawful good so he doesn't end up like a burnt out drifter turned child killer like Kellog did
>join BoS
>resolve everything peacefully as possible like paying full price for crops
>do all the good dialogue choices even if it doesnt net me as many caps
>stop using chems (which was painful at first as a melee build)
>start to have immense amount of fun
>ready to go to the institute
>no idea what will be waiting for me
>fully deck myself out for a fuck huge fight on weapons and armour, even with extra armour pieces in case some break
>deck out Danse as well, even buy him a decked out plasma gun with 1000 cartridges
>letsdothis.jpg
>teleport in, takes me a moment to realise Danse isn't with me
>cautiously explore
>get to scene with synth shaun
>take off power armour helm and have emotional moment
>from there on have lots of great feels moments exploring institute
>meet with Father again
>"I NEED YOU TO HUNT DOWN A RENEGADE SYNTH"
>immersion instatly ruined as I realize this is the start of a new radiant settlement endless quest chain

Hope you enjoyed that page from my diary, the point I'm trying to make is that with a tiny amount more of effort this game could have been incredible for its RP potential. How did beth fuck up this bad?
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TODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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>>124928756

Because Bethesda doesn't know how to do it's research.
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>>124928629
There is a power armor upgrade that automatically injects you with stimpaks when your health is low. It would probably be hard to predict when a player would want to use other types of chems though
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When do the bodies disappear?

I claim this house for myself.
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>>124928727
Not everyone who likes NV likes it because of Avellone's input.
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>>124928848
You're probably also a millenial tbqh
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>>124928415
>>124928535
>>124928727
He's working on a Numenera game, I'm HYPED for it.
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>>124915683
If he keeps the sexy yellow eyes, yeah
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>>124928950
sometimes never
I have still some laying around in my sunshine co-op from like 100h ago
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>>124928964
I'm 29 and work in a grocery store.
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Has a modder ever been contacted by a gaming company to be part of their team? Most of the time modders downright correct games.
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>>124922759
>tfw English
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>>124928934
You are not supposed to kill her!
You are supposed to rape her.
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>>124929043
The Falskaar guy got hired by Bungie.

I don't know who made a bigger mistake there.
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>>124928629
I want to put curie in my power armor instead of a synth body
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>>124928848
CHOICES MIGHT FRUSTRATE PLAYERS
PLEASE UNDERSTAND
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>>124918563
The Triggermen dont work for Hancock, they're competition
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>>124929043
The modder that made the moonpath mod for Skyrim was hired by Bungie. Beth is too retarded to hire people that fix their games.
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>>124929040
You're a millenial bud. It stretches from the '80s to 2000
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>>124928535
>People think Veronica was a poorly written character because they hate her voice actor.
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>>124928950
How are you gonna get all that blood out of the carpet?
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>>124928920

Hunting down that rogue synth isn't the start of a radiant quest chain. It's part of the story.

You ruined your own immersion, just like you originally created it.
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>tfw being a spotlight for a qt singer
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>>124929123
Has he done any tangible work?
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>>124928934
IT
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>>124928920
Catering to WoW and CoD players.
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>>124919483
>Their first mission is killing every ghoul in goodneighbor, including Hancock

I'd rather kill Nora and bomb the Enclave than do that. Why not? I already killed my son because he asked me to do something reprehensible.
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>>124928920
That job isn't radiant though.
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>>124929185
You have to understand though. I liked Veronica well enough to just delete her audio files, but in gW2 I simply refuse to play Asura because of her nasal derpyness.
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>>124928920
Not a radiant quest you fucking idiot.
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>>124929168
If that makes you underage millenial feel better.

>In 2014, the Pew Research Center, an American think tank organization, defined "adult Millennials" as those who are 18 to 33 years old, born 1981–1996.[24] And according to them, the youngest Millennials are still "in their teens" with "no chronological end point set for them yet".[24]

You said "you're" so I assume you are still underage, else you would have said "we".

Fuck off bait millenial. Adult coming through.
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>>124919483
I'd rather have my spouse stay dead but I'll join the enclave.
>>
is there a console command to forcefully place a prop in building mode? For some reason the game refuses to let me place a trading post in a perfectly blank spont
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>>124928920
I tried to roleplay for my first (abortive) playthrough and hated the game, then I just rolled with what the game wanted like it was a STALKER game for my second and had fun.

Fallout 4 isn't an RPG. Stop trying to play it like one.
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>can literally lock on something and teleport that down to the smallest atomic detail
>can't locate his cancer cells and teleport them out of his body

Bravo, Bethesda.
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>>124929206
You are making her blind with those bi-xenons.
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>>124929058
Does this only show the United Kingdom or is the Republic of Ireland a really fucking safe spot
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>>124929206
>being a spotlight for a qt synth
G E T O U T
E
T
O
U
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>>124929043
Oscuro got hired to Obsidian after he made the GOAT mod for Oblivion.
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>>124929189
Fucking Lorenzo bled everywhere

I'll get codsworth to clean it
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>>124929406
>resorting to accusing others of being underage
Millenials not even once.
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>>124929058
>live in between Falmouth and Penzance

I might make it
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>>124929058
>tfw Aberystwyth

I'm safe
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>>124929404
Ah, really? I thought the same thing with the BoS squire and that turned out to be radiant as fuck so I assumed "HUNT DOWN RENEGADE SYNTH AT THIS LOCATION, ILL MARK IT ON YOUR PIP BOY" would be.

I haven't even bothered attempting it
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>>124929040

A mellenial is anyone who was a teen up to and around the mellenium. It's not kids born after 2000.

We're basically the Internet generation.
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>>124929206
>Not removing Magnolia
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>124929207
Yes, and it's all terrible.
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>>124928934
Gas doesn't detonate in closed containers, you flaming faggot.
Try fire extinguishers.
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>>124929618
did he work on anything officially?
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>>124929525
>the cancer tissue was part of his heart
>liver
>lung
>teleport it out
>bleed to death in seconds

Every time you come up with a better solution I will ruin it for you.
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>>124929678
>Tfw Aberdare
Gonna love eating up that nuclear dust from Cardiff.
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>>124928934
>she wobbles a little after all the carnage

its like she's mocking you

>>124929206
>standard spotlight too dim
>high powered spotlight so powerful it hurts to use it
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>>124929525
Cancer is caused by a genetic mutation, anon. It doesn't matter if you remove existing cancer cells. An aggressive form will keep coming back until it kills you.
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>>124929043
Pretty sure that's how the Epic used to get new talent
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>>124929525
I dont think you understand how cancer works you retarded fuck.
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>>124929684
It's your introduction to the Institute companion
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>>124929821
Not unless you will keep removing it, anon.
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>>124929716
>mellenium
Learn to speak my language. Filthy Brazilian.

>>124929650
You are one, unless you are a +35 year old loser posting in here.

>most researchers and commentators use birth years ranging from the early 1980s to the early 2000s
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>>124929776
Pretty sure he's responsible for New Vegas' level scaling with baby deathclaws, alpha deathclaws, and all that shit.
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>>124928934
How do you get the throw trajectory?
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>>124929792
>teleport/put synth organs into shaun

There. Solved.
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>>124929525
This.
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>>124929792
Father could survive forever if he could get past his foolish pride and put his memories into a synth.
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>>124929776
NV
Pillars of Eternity

IIRC you can hear his sexy spic voice if dev commentary is turned on in Pillars.
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>>124929124
But she can't do academic research if you put her in armour. It would be like torture to her.
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>>124928950
Click bodies in dev console, type
disable

WEW LAD SO FUCKING HARD
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>>124929964
Synth organs are not compatible with humans you stupid nigger.
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>>124929821
Jesus christ people do like to spout crap on 4chan. That's not how cancer works.
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>>124929821
>Cancer is caused by a genetic mutation, anon. It doesn't matter if you remove existing cancer cells. An aggressive form will keep coming back until it kills you.

Cancer is caused by cell reproduction fucking up. If you remove all affected cells, it won't come back.
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>>124929821
>can always remove cancer AND have brand new organs to replace
>nah, it keeps coming back after 60 years, I better die now
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>>124929941
Except you can't keep removing it and you can't mitigate its effects indefinitely. This is a game where people die of radiation damage. What do you think radiation does to you? It damages and mutates your DNA. And causes cancer, among other things. If they can't fix that, there's no reason they could magically cure cancer.
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>>124929792
>Gradual treatment to minimize the spread and reverse cancerous tissue.
There is nothing molecular reassembly couldn't do.
Bethesda fucked up on the teleporter handwaving.
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>>124930068
>>124929952
Thats pretty cool.
>>124929821
There isnt a single cause on cancer, each one is a unique special snowflake c:
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>>124929964
organ rejection, unless 100% same DNA

>>124930037
>move to synth body
>the use secret control commands to make you docile
>lose free will
>>
every time i think of synth curie i realize she must have pissed/shit herself so many times while getting used to human body... so disgusting...
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>>124929951
>unless you are a +35 year old loser posting in here.

y...you too...

(not that guy btw, just an oldfag)
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>>124929821

You have to remove the cells that have the fucked up DNA.

Every. Last. Cell. Any leftover will begin dividing and the cancer can come back.

That's why it can be so hard to treat and involves so much collateral damage to the rest of the body.
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>>124929029
>>124928950
console
markfordelete
leave and come back

if you're not on PC you're fucked because obsidian doesn't know how to optimize
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>>124928485
>They didn't get Odo's VA to do Nick

ONE FUCKING JOB, TODD. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU MANAGE TUVOK BUT NOT ODO?
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>>124930164
The biggest handwave was that use of the technology basically kills you. If you want to bitch about synths not actually being people, then that tech really is problematic.

If it was spacial displacement, that's one thing. Turning something into raw molecules and reassembling it is a lethal process.
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>>124930094
>kellogg is cybernetically enhanced
>literally over 100 years old and looks 50
>they can't figure something out

>>124930251
>unless 100% same DNA

That's great since, you know, 3rd gen synths are MADE WITH SHAUN'S DNA

Bethdrones defending the stupidity of the plot and not even realising how stupid it is.
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>>124930251
>organ rejection, unless 100% same DNA

>>124930251
They designed it, and father seems to know what's what.
Removing these commands should not be an issue.
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>>124930310
It's alright friend, most of us will be in your situation in a few years.
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>>124928535
He is supposed to be a psychopath.
It's why he talks like a 9 yo.
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>>124930126
The reproduction fuckup you mentioned is caused by a mutation in the gene replication process.

>A certain irreducible background incidence of cancer is to be expected regardless of circumstances: mutations can never be absolutely avoided, because they are an inescapable consequence of fundamental limitations on the accuracy of DNA replication, as discussed in Chapter 5. If a human could live long enough, it is inevitable that at least one of his or her cells would eventually accumulate a set of mutations sufficient for cancer to develop.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK26897/
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>>124930130
> no CAN'T YOU BECOME A SYNTH YOU DUMB FUCK
> instead given this nepotism-induced you're director of the institute nao
Really Bethesda I bet that's how you promote people in your org.
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>>124916038
>Anyone in the game is immortal
>player freedom is our number one concern!
Obsidian game fucking when?
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what a charming guy
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>Paladin Danse dislikes saving Kent.
But why? Literally only he dislikes it
Im killing him this time.
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>>124930358
>every last cell

It's a good thing that they have something that can move things in an atomic level then, huh?
>>
On average how much damage should an end game sniper rifle be doing?
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>>124929792
They'd already done a full personality transplant into a Gen2 synth with Nick and the personality of a pre-war detective, they could have transfered Father into a Gen3 body.
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>>124930570
because he's a filthy ghoul.
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>>124930556
Glad I nuked the Institute
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>>124916247
Read terminals. They only want to replace people of influence so they can control the Commonwealth as they see fit.
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>>124930570

hancock didn't like saving kent either
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>>124930540
The guys responsible for New Vegas left Obsidian and are working on other projects right now.
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>>124930570
>But why
wasting resources to save an undesirable mutant scum
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>>124930556
The institute in a nutshell
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>>124930570
He hates ghouls because BoS. Fuck BoS.
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>>124930164
No. It's works exactly as it is supposed to. You can only take out exactly what you put in.

You need to think about it as a jigsaw puzzle. Taking it all apart and shaking the box doesn't change the image on the puzzle when you put it back together.
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>>124930478
I hope so honestly, Im not doing too bad, own my own home, my own business, married, work out of the house, still hang out here after over a decade, I cant complain.
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>>124930589
>>124930434
>>124930469
Well okay Beth fucked up. Again. Are there seriously people in here that FO4's plot it more retarded then GECK and Project Purity?
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>>124930556
>Removing his Courser uniform

Why
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>>124930575

You have to find every cell first. And they aren't always all neatly clumped together.
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So Curie made the cure for all diseases, what if you just saved that cure and gave it to Shaun?
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>>124930685
he loved it when I saved him
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>>124930484
In a single cell you retard. Your entire body doesn't go "okay I'm going into cancer mode and making cancer everywhere now".
>>
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>124930556
Because living like molerats in basement is so much better solution.

Honestly makes me think why vaults didn't go insane after all these generations, there is literally NOTHING to do and no sun. People should be depressed as fuck
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>>124930685
You probably used wrong dialogue options.
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>>124928535
But Ulysses and Cass were great.
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>>124930857
How did one VI with VERY limited resources make that and the Institute can't
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>>124930698
I thought only one person left Obsidian (Avellone)? THe rest are still with Obsidian, no?
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>>124930863
That does happen. Cancer can and will spread. Why do you think they want to catch it early?
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>>124930758
The plot is a step up from Fo3, more interesting but with more holes than Skyrim's and a step down from New Vegas (prior to Lonesome Road nonsense) in my opinion.

My only real gripe with the plot is that it's design inherently limits roleplaying. They could have still told a similar story yet made it more roleplay friendly but for some reason chose not to.
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>>124930857
>So Curie made the cure for all diseases
Are you retarded?
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>>124930785
ballistic weave
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>>124930434
Where was it said Kellogg's cybernetics would keep him from ever contracting cancer?
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>>124930967
Because Curie da bes. It helps that she had like 120 years to work on that one project though.
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>>124930373
There is nothing special about the mind.
Nothing "locks on" and allows you to think so long as your particles exist in a single continuous configuration.
There is no difference between the matter and energy of one location and another.
Take it apart somewhere and reassemble it instantaneously and your conscious stream will be preserved over the seeming jump in position an perhaps time.

The only thing to differentiate you from another version of you is a physical change in your state of mind or experience.
If nothing has changed your stream of consciousness remains intact.
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>>124930986
Yes, only Avellone left and that was because of some PoE issue.

He's a freelancer now, so I hope he will be there for the next Obsidian Fallout.
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>>124930876
Cant wait for a mod that lets you modify diamond city like it was settlement and scrap pooper house + nat standing for those resources
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>>124931027
What made NV attractive to me is that you couldself insert a 100%, you are just yourself. All your background is your own. Thanks to amnesia. Fallout 4 is the worst, since you are a voiced character that only lives to find his cancer ridden son in a basement where he spent most of his life making real dolls and use them as slaves. Shaun is /r9k/ incarnate.
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>>124930986
For some reason I thought Josh Sawyer left too. Turns out I am wrong and there's still hope in the world.
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>>124930857
Was it for all disease or only infectious disease?

In any case the result would be

>oops, it didn't take. Looks like the formula was off
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>NV
>BoS ending doesn't change regardless of who you appoint Elder

well what was the fucking point?
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>>124930863
>okay I'm going into cancer mode and making cancer everywhere now

That's actually how it works
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>>124930957
>Ulysses
>great
LR was the worst DLC and Ulysses had a big part in that
Walking a more linear path than Operation Anchorage while every 3 steps he's spewing exposition at you is hardly great.
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>>124931215
>thanks to amnesia

The Courier doesn't have amnesia.
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>>124930368
Moron. Odo is Mr house. He's taken.
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>>124931026

Because the cells that single cancerous cell makes can reproduce more cells with fucked up DNA. Individual cells can get swept away in the bloodstream and set up shop elsewhere, where they begin producing new growths.

The longer you have cancerous cells in you, the greater the chance it'll spread in your body like that
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>>124931239
Point is BoS does not change.
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>>124931135
>babbies first existentialism game
You could have used so many pieces of literature instead to prove your point...
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>>124930368
Rene Auberjonois is dead, anon...
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>>124931319
>head trauma
>no memory
then what the fuck would you call it
>>
>>124931173
But a lot of other people still with Obsidian who can be seen as pioneer of fallout, no? JSawyer, feargus urquhart, chris jones, etc?

Seems qualified/competent enough to write a better story for the next fallout game, and I'm even fine with the gamebryo BS by now.
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>>124931294
I liked to hear him talking, so I liked the DLC and I found the environment interesting unlike Anchorage.
Same thing with Joshua.

>>124931423
Who said he has no memory?
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>>124930857
It was a catch all cure for the diseases they were creating in vault 81.
It was not a cure for EVERY disease known to man
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>>124931089
>>124931227
According to the wiki " every disease that afflicted humanity"
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So they bothered to give them special line if you have power armor, yet they still aim at you with PIPE GUNS?
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>>124931416
Made me check your heartless disgusting piece of shit.
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>>124931173
What exactly happened in PoE that causes Avellone to leave? Does anyone know? I never knew that he had issues with the game and that he left amicably to pursue other avenues?
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>>124931468
>Who said he has no memory?
there is no indication in game that says anything of their life before goodsprings
but i suppose you're right. for RP reasons, they do have memory of their past life, and it's whatever life you decide they have.
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>>124931481
>We will never save shaun with this because muh storytelling
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>>124931492
My question is, how do they see through your full set of PA and know whether you are "Mister Power Armor" or "Miss Power Armor"?
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>>124931239
Choice and Consequence, anon. C&C.
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>>124931628
the way you walk
nothing beats the moment when pooper recognizes you as vault dweller tho
>>
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tbjui5rsb31mo3z/CBBE_Fallout_Alpha01.7z?dl=0

CBBE alpha

Not at my PC atm, how is it?
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>>124930589
they wouldn't believe he's still a 'real' human after that I believe.
Well, I don't even think they can "move" the consciousness form a human to a synth, that'd just create a copy of his brain while the real Shaun would still die.
There was a Ronnie comic like thatbut can't find it atm.
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>>124931492
I wore the vault suit for a stupidly long time to see how many reactions to it there are. Quite a few but they dry up past Diamon City.
>>
>>124931481
>>124931626
cancer isn't a disease it's a cancer
it's fundementally different than any virus or bacteria or parasite or infection
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>>124931451
Yep. And Tim Cain is in Obsidian now.
The thing is, I really liked Avellone's writing in New Vegas, but I think that JSawyer, Tim Cain, Feargus, they can do a pretty good game without Avellone.
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>>124931727

NEW THREAD FOLKS

>>124931727
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>>124931628
Smell of a Woman.
>>
Why is /fog so obsessed with CBBE? I thought there's a nude mod already? How different is that with CBBE?
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>>124931345
>Implying 'thesda wants to acknowledge NV as canon

>>124931416
I think you mean Patrick Stewart. Check the news, or /tv/.
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>>124931764
>cancer is not a disease
Yes it is. Do a 2 second Google search to find how wrong you are.
>>
>>124931481
This is the same Wiki that until recently had Deacon listed as a synth.
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>>124931621
Sawyer said that the Courier doesn't have amnesia.
It's just that New Vegas left the roleplaying portion really open for the player.
>>
>>124931809
>>124931451
>>124931173
> just watched this
> HEY LOOK AT ALL THE LOVE WE PUT INTO THIS VIDYA
> literally shed a tear then looked dissapointed at F4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scqESZbRNkU
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>>124931481
The wiki is wrong. It quotes Piper as having unique dialogues for sniffing wonderglue.

If you read her quest shit, it was a cure for ~81% of all known diseases of 2077.
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>>124931135
Your mind is a streaming process. If you break everything down, you lose the process, the reactions, and everything else that makes that stream possible. You may then restore the stream to exactly how it was, but it's a form of recreation rather than continuance. The original person died the moment you took them apart.

The consciousness isn't a form of magic ether. It's flowing data.
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>>124931215
> "hey I had to reconstruct your face, but tell me if there's something wrong"
> you can do it
Details, Beth, It's the details.
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>>124931239
but it does change though. If you appoint Hardin as the Elder he won't form a truce with NCR, and will try and retake HELIOS One during the attack on the Dam
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>>124931481
>perfects disease
>only was able to make one dosage

What even justifies her existence now?
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>>124931492
>tfw you fell for the power armor means something in dialogue meme
>>
HOT
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>>124932148
She made multiple dosages but they all expired except one for arbitrary story reasons.
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>>124931997
I really like to see these guys talking about their games, especially Sawyer, they really put their hearts in it.
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>>124931406
So sue me.
I enjoyed the game.
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>>124932148
They made more, but it deteriorated over a hundred something years without refrigeration.
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>>124931481
I think she meant she could cure all known infectious diseases.

A very important distinction, considering cancer isn't caused by a pathogen.
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>>124932230
>this animation is in the game
where do I get my willy wanked
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>>124932304
I agree It was good, but I hated the main character for being a douche.
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>>124931997
>check the video about voice actors for New Vegas
>Mr. New Vegas just plain loves his role
>Benny really likes the game for the amount of decisions you can make

>tfw just got to Diamond City on this nth playthrough and reminded myself again that Piper sounds like if her microphone was clogged
Not even an obshillian, but these are some feels, man.
>>
>>124930556
He's not exactly wrong. To him, he was made and indoctrinated with the thought that the surface was a barren wasteland full of irradiated inbred savages shitting all over each other, and going to the surface only confirms this belief further, especially with the fact these "savages" hate him so much.

When was the last time you saw a proper functioning toilet on the surface?
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>>124932148
>What even justifies her existence now?
my dick
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>>124932486
I dunno why Piper's intro was so shit it feels like it was recorded separately from the rest of the game just for a pre-release demo or something.
>>
>>124932716

>>124931727 was posted earlier
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>>124932081
Yes but you're assuming it's something outside of the universe.
It's not some supernatural stream.
It's completely natural information and can be recreated, sure in a physical sense you die, but your mind and "you" survive.
There is no difference between the recreation and the original, there is no difference in you and "them" even from your own perspective.
>>
>>124932815
a shit fucked up, sorry
>>
>>124931518
>>124931871
What the fuck... I could have sworn I read that Rene died back in the early 2000s from cancer.
>>
>>124933506
Berenstein or Berenstain bears?
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>>124934484
Stein...

Oh fug :D
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>>124932435
He was supposed to be, makes you think about it instead.
He had very little empathy once he found out "he" wouldn't get to ride along.
Just surprised he didn't have the foresight to say
>Wait a second, this is just a repeat of the events beforehand, with the pressure suit.
Maybe he did and just thought "he" could win out in the gamble, either way he will have to suffer...

I got this feeling that the whole thing was useless, the moment I pushed the ARK through the broken tunnels.
Everything was dead and quite pointless, the WAU offered promise but created so much suffering to attain it.
Nothing much to do but admire the beauty of the dying world and follow through with this one last task as it fades away.
It didn't make sense, sure you'd get to live on, but it felt wrong sending up a copy of yourself like this.
An intangible copy of yourself to live in bliss on a floating piece of metal in space for maybe a millennium and then go cold.
What would be the outward benefit to sending this thing up to begin with?

Not even Simon in the ARK realized who he had left behind to suffer or perhaps he wouldn't think about it.
That's why they killed themselves in the end, they just didn't want to suffer.
But the WAU wouldn't let them. It needed them.

Any sort of true ending point to the game would realistically hinge around your decision of what to do with the WAU.
But who knows, Simon yet lives, even after a decision to destroy.
Ross hinted something about Simon's death being necessary to complete the process so maybe not all is lost.


God damn, I love the aesthetic, the characters, and the small bit of humanity left to explore but it was so fantastically bleak it left me feeling empty.
>>
Piratefag here

how do I activate mods without manager? Can't find it on launcher
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>>124935616
C:\Users\Anon\AppData\Local\Fallout4\
The txt files load your esms.
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>>124935916
thanks
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>>124935616
Here is the mod loader thing. Its hidden for some reason.
Just click within the marked area and it will pop up.
But why not use mod manager?
>>
>>124929960
demolition expert rank 3
>>
>>124936183
It required some third party installs like .NET and I didn't want to bother.
>>
Nub question: Am I missing out on a lot of fun stuff for not having much charisma and intellect? Couldn't decide on if I want to melee or guns and end up spreading all my points on str, agi, and per, only to never get any agi/per perks and found out that's it's much better to craft better guns than getting the slight bonuses from per/agi.

should I reroll or just console command?
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>>124937642
If you mean charisma speech checks and the options and actions they allow if passed then no.
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>>124937642
You can buff your charisma fairly easily. There should be a set of glasses commonly found that'll give you +1, commonly found hats that give you +1, and if you do the trinity tower quest you get a suit that gives you +3 for a total of +5 from items alone. Combine that with grape mentsts which can be made fairly easily using hub flower, whiskey, and mentats and you'll have a boost or 10 charisma which can make even tough checks a cake walk.
As for intelligence, if you're using some sort of gun is suggest having it so you can upgrade them. Gun nut for ballistic weapons and science for energy weapons. Other than upgrading weapons, science is only good for getting more exp from actions but you'll be better off with 1 INT and idiot savant
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>>124931732
What else is there to wear under armor pieces?
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>>124923015
>Fallout 4
>decisions that aren't 3 variations of the same answer, and an additional "fuck you/meme" response labeled as "sarcasm"

What game are you playing??
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>>124938430
Dirty armor fatigues are goat
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>>124938339
Basically because I'm new to FO, I couldn't decide on a build and don't know what perks to expect. So I spent all of my points on the "combat stats". Right now all my perks are flat stat bonuses and feels really boring. A lot of the charisma and luck perks look very interesting and I'd like Science from int so I can craft more.

>>124938389
Buffing won't work since I mainly want the perks and I'm too lazy to change/take drugs before every conversation anyway.
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>the molerat disease is literally a mixture of all the infectious diseases Vault-Tek could stuff in Vault 81 pre-war
>you are a pre-war individual who was just dropped out of time so it's not like you have a crazy wastelander immune system or something
>all it does is -10 max hp and not superebola
I AM GROWING STRONGER

>>124930373
>Big MT develops a transPORTALponder for teleportation, suggesting it works via spacial displacement
They do literally everything better than the Institute. The ironic thing is the Institute appears to be limited by their sense of ethics but their ethics are shit.
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>>124938907
This makes me wonder why EVERYONE from Enclavekuks to BoS to the Institute faps to PRE-WAR DNA NOT MUTATED (and not adapted to the wasteland diseases and radiation as well).
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>>124929058
>tfw Northern Irish
>Gee Derry, your ma let's you have 2 NUKES?!

Also
>Belfast nuked
Thank God, finally I get to see the Shankill and Falls Road obliterated. Need to be careful of the feckin mutants that already live there, they probably feed off radiation already, can't imagine them after the bombs drop
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>>124939642
The Enclave is obsessed with purity, the FEV is their fault anyway though. They're just villains (for the most part) in general though, you're supposed to think they're wrongheaded.

The BoS is afraid of non-humans and considers anything that mutates significantly non-human, and the Institute wanted to base the synths on the kind of human that resulted from millions of years of natural selection creating a dominant species that was incredibly versatile and effective.

I sure hope Hiroshimoot figures out his website soon, I want to migrate to the new thread.
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