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Spessmen on a Spess Station - /ss13g/

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Tinystation Edition

LAST TIME ON /ss13g/
>shitposting as usual
>greentext
>possible walk animation by slavs, is spess kill?
>nobody reads these anyway
>minerals

>What is Space Station 13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA [Embed]
http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc

>New player guide
http://ss13.pomf.se/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.pomf.se/wiki/index.php/General_Help

>BYOND client
http://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/

>Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station server, running a vote script to change maps at round end.
byond://ss13.undo.it:7777

>Test server
byond://ss13.nexisonline.net:1336

>Public server list
http://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13

>Forum, ban list and logs for vgstation
http://ss13.pomf.se/forum/
http://ss13.pomf.se/index.php/bans
http://ss13.undo.it/logs/

>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"

>Map renders collection: updated nightly
http://ss13.nexisonline.net/img/map-renders/

>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstation

>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
http://ss13.booru.org/

>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o [Embed]

>Nostalgia
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/ss13g/

OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/wa9fnYbg
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First for minerals are awesome.
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>[Embed] [Embed]

YOU FUCKED UP
YOU FUCKED UP
YOU FUCKED UP
YOU FUCKED UP
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Repostan because new bread.

>raging mages
>go stealth wizard
>entire time dead chat whines about me being stealth
>keeps crying I'm playing like traitor with jaunt
>one whiner gets picked as next wizard
>dies in few minutes
>continues whining about me going stealth
>few other wizards get picked and all die soon after arrival
>the same guy whining gets picked second time
>he dies again moments after arrival
>keeps whining I'm stealth
ayy lmao

It's like being wizard shuts down their higher brain functions. ME WIZARD, ME KILL OR DIE
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>>124883635
Who here likes minerals?
*raises pick*
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4th for vox
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>>124883782
Judging by the last thread, everyone likes minerals
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>>124883791
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>>124883782
Minerals are pretty
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>>124883791
The Jarjar Binks of races.
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>>124884224
where's his blanket?
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>>124884224
Turning vox into chickens is so much fun.
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>>124884287
Sith lords?
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With the mineral posting last thread:
Theres a real nice cluster of olivine in some exposed early carboniferous rocks near by. But the area is a national land mark. No one ever walks down in the hollows, plus it'll fall into the sea or get worn away eventually.... not sure whether to take it.

New asteroid rock colour when?
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>>124883520
I READ THEM EVERY TIME

Your efforts don't go to waste anon!
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>>124880212
spoonfeed me i don't get this
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>>124885240
nukeops round
one of them goes stealthy and integrates into the crew
bartender shift clicks them and sees jackboots and prescription glasses
queue accurate guess followed by apathy in the name of alcohol
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>>124885359

Ban assdad for doing nothing about the newcops when
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>>124885620
i dont know the actual situation, just what i got from the post
>>124885670
banbanbaan
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>>124885359
THAT TOOK ME A WHILE.
The Bartender Vox was the Nukeops? I saved his life!
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>>124885765
bartender wasn't the bartender assumed the person he examined was a nukeop being stealthy
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>>124885765

No, one of the assistants at the bar was
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Ban assdad for being assdad when
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>>124884961
Don't take it, anon.
National Parks are for everyone to enjoy.
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>>124885873
The bartend was Kyahi.
Khloe was the assistant who said the thing. There were only three of us.
I...
I don't get it.
It's likely meant just to confuse anyway.
How is wearing Jackbooks and glasses suspicious? I need those to see!
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>>124886156
well seems ive just helped confuse things then, my job here is done.
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>>124884961
You do realize that would be a federal offense, right?

>"What are you in for?"
>"I stole some fed owned rocks."
>"Nice. Meth or bling?"
>"Olivine."
>"The fuck is that shit?"
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>>124886225

Pomf socachachachaha said if I exploit my way to centcomm he'll ban me.

If he bans me will you unban me please thankyou.
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>>124887258
>he
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>>124886156
Only sec and newcops start with jackboots. And sec would be wearing their HUD sunglasses.
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>>124887275

good meme attempt but sochacumbox is a cute boy
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>>124887258
>he
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>>124886156
>>124887357
You know you can get jackboots from a hacked shoe vendor or by hacking into the arrivals sec checkpoint, right? I know we're a light RP server, but jeez, try to reign in your meta-gaming a little bit mate.
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>>124887214
>federal
not american, there are no laws forbidding taking it. Its just an emotional issue, I'd just feel bad taking something from a site people visit. So, on the one hand I want it on the other I don't want to rob others of seeing it. Not that it would be the first time, since I take fossils regularly. I'm conflicted and Off Topic. Please disregard this.
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>>124887258
>he
lel
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>>124887483
>I'm not from the country in which I'm currently breaking their laws so that means I can't get in trouble
I'm not sure your logic checks out on this one
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>>124887449

pomf I want to go to centcomm

it beckons to me
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>>124887681
I think what he meant was the laws where he's at on taking things from federal lands is a lot more lax than murka
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>>124887814
They have national parks outside of america?
And it's legal to take shit from them?
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>>124887851
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>>124887923
Why is burgerpants the best secondary undertale character

No wait I don't want to start an undertale discussion
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>>124887978
why would you make that post then you fucking undermeme shitposter?
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>>124887978
nailed the core demographic
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>>124887483
Here in America, you can get a mining claim on a small area of our MASSIVE swaths of government land stolen from the Indians for as low as $200(depending on claim size) and pay the same amount every year as a maintenance fee to keep your claim active and dig away at it to your heart's content.
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>>124888021
Why would you respond then you fucking autistic shitposter?
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>>124887474
>military boots
>WAAH STOP METAGAMING
retard
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>>124888079
guess that explains why there were people who literally lived at the diamond crater in arkansas
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>>124888606
>There are 19 States where you may locate mining claims or sites. These States are: Alaska, Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Florida, Idaho, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oregon, South Dakota, Utah, Washington, and Wyoming.

>New Mexico
Elim can stake a mining claim and get all of the minerals. As long as it isn't already taken, or in a wildlife preserve, national park, or reservation.
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>songs you play while greytiding
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZrAYxWPN6c
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>>124890047
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP2u4wJcnS0
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>whole round goes fine
>shuttle called
>people trapped in the brig
>better go rescue them!
>murdered for being a good samaritan
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The flesh is weak

That end of round music when everything went to shit had me jamming as I shocked doors left and right and killed people.
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>be plant botanist
>work together with human botanist
>he inevitably kills himself with weed420kush
>plant the seeds of greentide
>diona population triples before we leave due to singularity
>all dionas escape, lots of dead humans

It's good to be green.
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>>124890173
And plant life out preserved both flesh and rust.
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That was a chill changeling round
Ai was constantly being destracted. Managed to convince the captain to give me all her shit then proceeded to slowly ensure my victory
Also helped other changeling with his objectives
Wonder why the chef gave up linging, I think he could not bring himself to eat people
>>124890135
You the CE vox?
I was going to eat the Warden but then you showed up
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Your ass was grass Chef
And I was gunna wear it
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>>124888574
>person wearing an item that is available on the station for any crew (assuming the machines have been hacked or not).
>LOL THEY MUST BE A NUKE OPS.
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>>124890265
Yeah, I was trying to bust security out in time for the shuttle but I didn't have the door wire memorized because I was good that round
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>>124890334
I always add the wires to my notes so I have them handy. It comes in excellent hand
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>>124890334
> Oldman Nelson stepping out into space as the shuttle literally leaves the moment he tries to get in

I was laughing my ass off at him trying to get through the multiple bolted doors and then failing with half a second left to safety.
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>>124890135
>whole round quiet, people not dying
>chill holobeach party
>WHEN SUDDENLY
>SINGULOOSE
>ROGUE AI
>SHOCKED DOORS
10/6 it was okay
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Goodbye eternal party summer beach, you were the funnest thing of all
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What was that last song playing last round anyway. I know it's from Hotline Miami 2 but I forget the actual name of the song.
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>>124890905
Run
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>>124890047
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI91eOD3JFY
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Maybe I should turn antag back on.
I haven't felt like greytiding in a long, long, LONG time, but now I do.
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>>124890047
What else but this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcRyjkYdDxM
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>>124890047
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuaW5IzbnUc
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>>124890314
>check crew manifest on pda
>not on manifest
wow that was hard
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>>124892592
Maybe they're just a new cop and not yet added
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>>124890314
But the only ways to obtain them are from said vendor (which has to be hacked).
I wouldn't fault somebody for calling me nukeop when wearing sunglasses, jackboots and turtleneck
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>>124892592
I mean, that's a fine and valid jump, it's just jumping to the conclusion over the fact that they're wearing a certain boots or not that irks me.
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>>124892901
waaah, how come he's using common sense

fucking metagamers!
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>>124893225
Again, they're a legitimately acquirable piece of clothing. How is it common sense to automatically assume that because of that fact they're nuke ops?
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>>124893225
More like "this guy is wearing combat boots, he must be a special agent out to kill us all"
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>>124893545
if it's not common sense, why was he correct?

check mate roleplay fags
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>round is taking a long time
>decide to learn how to hack
>disable all the safeties on the MULE
>cant figure out how to put shit in it
>send it somewhere empty to see what it does
>get bored watching stand in front of it to see how much damage it does
>critted instantly
>someone drags me to medbay, rings the doorbell and leaves
>changeling picks me up then has his way with me and leaves my used goods in a locker
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>>124894226
Always hack them for speed. Disable load safeties and ride it into restricted areas (drag your sprite ontop of it).
Really they are somewhat obsolete with mailing, but fun (especially as antagonistic when you order a whole bunch of them)
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What is a good profession to learn during low pop? I felt cargo was mostly useless because people rarely ever ordered shit.
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>>124894076
Because there's every chance it could have been some assistant who hacked the machine/broke into the sec checkpoint and stole their own boots?
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>>124894829
Scientist, engineering or atmos, mechanic and xenobotany. Maybe medbay but you won't have many patients during lowpop.
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>>124894923
a simple search would clear any confusion

do your duty and report any suspicious deviations from NT approved uniforms to your local security officer

you might just save the station
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>>124894923

He didn't even do anything, probably precisely because it would have been called meatgame.
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>>124894829

Any job where having lots of problems demanding your attention on highpop usually restricts you from learning.
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>>124894829
Anything that doesn't require people:
>R&D
>Bomb Making
>Telescience
>Virology
>Genetics
>Xenobio
>Xenobot
>Xenoarch

Although if you're currently at a cargo-level of skill, maybe learn chemistry instead. Try to memorize the most basic chemicals for pills. Inaprovaline and Antitoxin are the basis of a ton of common chems.
>Carbon+Oxy+Sugar = Inaprovaline
>Nitrogen+Potassium+Silicon = Antitox
>Inaprov + Carbon = Bicaridine
>Inaprov + Cryptobiolin = Spaceacillin
>Inaprov + Ethanol + Oxygen = Tramadol
>Inaprov + Antitox = Tricordrazine
>Antitox + Radium = Hyronalin
>Antitox + Chlorine + Nitrogen = Alkysine
>Antitox + Carbon + Oxygen = Ethyloxrezine
>Antitox + Carbon + Water = Inacusiate

There are other useful chems too, these are JUST the ones that branch off of those two chemicals.
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Question for anyone whos played goon.
Anyone know a user for Something other than qgp and rotting?
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I had no idea blob could evoluate so fast.
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>late join engineer to learn how to engy
>5 minutes later DA BLOB
>everyone asking me to help kill the blob but I have no clue what im doing
>read on the wiki to get welder tools from engineering vending machines
>fail to hack but a guy walks by and gives me a gun
>go to fight the blob but get instantly dunked
>guy tries to save me but I dc as I see him get overtaken
>log back in and its all ogre

Im so sorry I let you down family
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>>124898021
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>>124898021
how to fight blob as an engineer:
1. set up the power
2. take as many emitters and containment fields as you can
3. use the emitters to kill the blob and slow its advance with c-fields.
Unless it's too late and it has already claimed a quarter of the station. Then you're screwed.
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>>124883520
>>124853426
>Nobody ever asks me for shit when I'm in sci despite pdas having been invented five hundred and 85 years ago
>See people bitching in-thread about how they didn't get stuff
Well fuck you faggots too.
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>>124898619
>Unless it's too late and it has already claimed a quarter of the station. Then you're screwed.
Then you release the singularity :^)
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>>124898021
You were fucked, there's no way you were going to learn about emitters in time to find a good spot and not get wrecked

Intro to blob
>Heads: Code red immediately
>Sec: Immediately empty the armory and distribute guns
>Engineering: Make sure you have your insulated gloves, load up on cables and grab an emitter, drag near the blob but a safe distance from it. Pull up floor tiles and create wires leading to where you want to put the emitter connected to the rest of the grid. Wrench down emitter. Weld it in place. Turn it on. If you can aim this at a blob core it will almost guarantee the kill, but usually you'll just have to settle for burning a line through a random junk of blob.
>Cargo: Order emitters, electrical maintenance crates, weapons crates, and energy weapon crates. If QM, get spare suits from mining outpost while waiting
>Miners: Get back Uranium as fast as possible for AEGs, speed is key
>Science: Switch borgs to combat module after code red, focus on making AEGs. While waiting on both of these things, pull out oxygen canisters from toxins storage so people can fill their internals (engineering busy with emitters) and grab a suit/magboots from research outpost.
>Botany: Grow Poppy, distribute to people fighting the blob
>Medbay: Focus on dex plus and bicaridine for front-line fighters. Make sure paramedics are standing by with bandages to immediately patch up anyone who gets hit.

Everyone else
>Do not use bombs to fight blob
>Do not try flamethrowers/fires of any kind
>Stay on HELP intent. Any click on blob is always an attack, and HELP will prevent you from pushing people into blob or congesting hallways
>Always stay diagonal from a blob piece
>Do not move toward a place that the blob's attention is focused. Unless you have multiple AEGs, it is going to move toward you faster than you can kill it. Instead, work with other people or chip away at it from another angle while it's distracted by the main attack.
>Poppies heal brute damage
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>>124894497
>tfw hop comes though the head meeting office
>Turn off cham proj and stick him
>Feed him 350u of sleep toxin, put on his clothes, then move him into the HoP maint locker through the windoor
>Impersonate the HoP and do tator shit
>One-human antimov the clown
>Giving all access in return for head jumpers
>Riding hacked mules, jumping off, stunning people and dragging them in the way of the mule
>Shooting lasertag guns to shuck suspicion
>tfw everyone is raging at the "HoP" while I use his good name to be a faggot,
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>>124898673
I didn't get these notions after one bad round friend. I got them after a year and a half of playing ss13.

Scientists are likely to outright ignore requests for supplies because they're all working on their own shit.

>Nobody ever asks me for shit when I'm in sci despite pdas having been invented five hundred and 85 years ago

I'm usually busy running a whole department. Should I ask the engineers to turn on power too?

Well. Lets just hope no one gets sick today because science is only going to do their job if they're asked politely.

..or we could just rely on mechanics to do their damn job.
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>>124898892
>>Engineering: Make sure you have your insulated gloves, load up on cables and grab an emitter, drag near the blob but a safe distance from it. Pull up floor tiles and create wires leading to where you want to put the emitter connected to the rest of the grid. Wrench down emitter. Weld it in place. Turn it on. If you can aim this at a blob core it will almost guarantee the kill, but usually you'll just have to settle for burning a line through a random junk of blob.
JUST as long as someone sets up power.

I've seen horrifying things.
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>>124898926
Well excuse me if I get sick of seeing an untouched open locker of med shit in the lobby. If someone expresses interest in getting it, then I don't mind taking a break as soon as I can and getting it for them. But I'm done wasting time on shit that isn't getting used. If you can't take the time to copy paste a supply request to 5 pdas, then get fucked you entitled whiny cunt.
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>>124899005
I'd rather just get mechanics to do the job you're unwilling to do.
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>>124899056
Well considering it's not my job then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I don't mind going above and beyond my job description if someone asks but I'm not going to waste my time on shit nobody asked for and only rarely uses.
But hey, you shitpost about how those mechanics don't do all those things for you even when there's no mechanics right? Right? Oh that's right, you don't because you an ignorant fucking twat.
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Here is how you kill a blob effortlessly.

>construct a big arrangement of emitters focused into one powerful beam with prisms, like you'd use for feeding supermatter
>place a teleporter beacon in the path of the powerful beam
>set a teleporter to that beacon and take a hand teleporter
>go to the blob and get below/above/to the side of its core in such a way that the beam will hit it
>activate hand tele so the powerful beam comes through

There's nothing the blob can do about it, he can't kill the emitters because they are far away and he can't go through the portal. He just dies. You move away and make new portal if he comes near.

This is a good tactic in general, an 'orbital cannon' you can call down against your enemies. Fun to do as traitor when you get your enemies into maintenance. Or as captain fighting nuke team. If engineers set up strong emitter beam for feeding supermatter place telebeacon in it for this purpose.
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>>124899167
Well that didn't take long. We've gone from "I'd always do that" to "It's not my job".

Why would anyone want to depend on research when people who are willing to do their jobs are as snooty as you, and there's an alternative that is dependable?

It's not like I just woke up one day and said nuuu fuck you scientists you're all gay! This is years of scientists being lazy pricks that didn't want anything to do with RnD past getting the research they wanted for their personal projects. Which is fine as long as they sync.

So I can either ask a mechanic to get me the shit I need (and some of them you can actually depend on to do it without being told to do their jobs).. or I can deal with (at best) you. Who thinks they are literally Jesus Christ sent down from above because you're working instead of printing guns and fucking off.

Scientist is just an assistant with a lab coat.
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>>124894076
>>124893225
assfag permabanned when?
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>>124899348
>Nobody in the slot
>Snooty
:^)
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>>124899308
>How to kill a blab
>Make bamb
>Teleport bam
>Boom bam
>Teleport in with your satchel of guns
>pewpewpew
>Can you smel-el-el-lel
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>>124899348
Do you blame chemistry because there's no imidazoline in the smartfridge when there's no chemists? No. there's no chemists there to do it. You have nobody to be salty at. Do you curse at doctors and geneticists who don't need it? No. Because you wouldn't expect it cause they're just getting the basics they need for their job before handling all the other shit they want to do. But if you ask, you'll often find one that will. Ya'll fucking sacks of shit with a massive attitude problem and mechanics can't get removed soon enough.
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>>124899432
>wow I didn't set up power because you didn't ask
>wow I didn't clone you because you didn't ask
>wow I didn't stop a murderer because you didn't ask
>wow I didn't mine you minerals because you didn't ask

>wow I didn't upgrade your machines and print you trauma kits because you didn't ask

???

>>124899713
>mechanics do their job without needing to be asked
>wow remove when

jealous af someone does your job you weren't going to do
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>>124899713
With no chemists i will bitch at other doctors for bad fridge inventory
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>>124899759
How can you be so fucking stupid that you don't see that everything you do is what someone dedicated to doing rnd is supposed to do. All it took was an alt-title for people to do upgrades more often and you can't fucking see it. You can't see how you're just a shitty rnd clone. You can't see past your salt cause you didn't get stuff from the no researchers playing that shift and unsurprisingly, when you didn't talk to anyone else, you didn't get any. What a fucking surprise. :^)
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Isn't the mechanic a RP job? You wouldn't expect a chemist to know how to construct the machines he uses, and you wouldn't expect the scientists who do bleeding edge research on a research station to go around fixing shit that breaks until they have everything researched and nothing to do that is, and the engineers are responsible for power and breaches and shit and need to pass by R&D for the boards anyways.

On a low RP server like /vg/ the mechanic is sort of redundant, but in a hard RP server like bay it'd make sense
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>>124900473
On hard RP it was still the engineers job. They were expected to be adults who could handle talking to other human beings. They'd get a pda back when the parts were ready then go make the machine. In our low rp, you either ordered the parts and assembled it yourself or rnd went and made it for you.
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bump for shitpostan
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>>124900473
I think of RP jobs as jobs that involve entertaining the crew (bartender, mime, clown, librarian, chaplain outside of vamp/cult).
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>>124900473
>>124903026
What about IAA? What do they contribute to?
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>>124903349
IAA handles special interaction with centcomm, so basically he's the secular chaplain, yeah.
>Good access
>Can call shuttle/ERT via fax if the heads are dead/compromised
>Can sometimes get special items ordered from Centcomm if you're persuasive

Stuff I've seen IAAs order:
>Tank of corn oil
>Destination taggers
>Go-karts
etc
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>>124903026
>Not making the chaplain sec and beating every criminal in the head until they confess
>Innocents naturally reach hundreds of brain damage
>Even after release, they're harmless now
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>>124883773
actually that was just troy
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>>124903487

Can you talk to the IAA from centcomm z-level through some way?

I wanna make the most of exploiting into centcomm
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>>124900473
>until they have everything researched and nothing to do that is
This is just an excuse for shitty scientists. Once I max research, I go on a fucking upgrading spree upgrading everything I find, which is made incredibly easy with the rapid part exchanger. Screwdriver click screwdriver, move on to the next machine.
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>>124903487
Secular chaplain is a good way to describe them.
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>>124905935
Secular equivalents of cult and vampires for IAAs to be useful for fighting when?
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>>124907638
shitcurity and condoms.
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>>124899308
I just go right at the blob with my mech, works ebery tiem
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That was actually a pretty relaxing round. Not what I was expecting when the other heads promoted me to captain.
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Can someone explain the space magic behind autolathes shitting out full industrial welders?
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>>124908741
>explaining space magic
come on now nigga
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>>124908741
How about shitting out intricate electronic devices capable of replicating any known mineral with just metal and glass?

But yea, fuel is just too much!11
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>>124908741
How about devices with infinite paint? Or perhaps infinite pipes?

I'm still salty that regular welders lost fuel.
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>>124909081
>>124908983
Could we at least explain it in some silly way like

"IT UTILIZES BLUE SPACE TO STEAL MATERIALS FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE UNIVERSE. THAT PIPE YOU JUST MADE? COULD'VE BEEN PART OF SOME SPACE ALIEN'S PLUMBING."
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>>124908741
Oh oh oh, how about making gunpowder ammunition? Is that ok?
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>>124908741
How about shitting out a device that makes motherfucking piece of cardboard or paper for the same low low METAL AND GLASS cost of an entire new airlock or a bar of phazon?
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>>124908741
HOW ABOUT A DEVICE THAT SHITS OUT OTHER DEVICES THAT SHITS OUT OTHER DEVICES THAT SHITS OUT OTHER DEVICES AD INFINITUM
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How about machines that literally generate nutrition out of electricity?
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>>124909525
How about you eat shit
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>>124908741
why do all vending machines come with pre loaded items that are only vendable when you manipulate the wires?

why do pipe networks work without pumping mechanisms?

who designs handcuffs so bad even the janitor knows how to escape out of them?

why is the entire premise of the game plasma being the new oil and yet nobody spends time researching it and optimizing its applications?

and that is just off the top of my head. Don't get me started on medicine or chemistry.
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>>124898892
>Miners: Get back Uranium as fast as possible for AEGs, speed is key
>Science: Switch borgs to combat module after code red, focus on making AEGs. While waiting on both of these things, pull out oxygen canisters from toxins storage so people can fill their internals (engineering busy with emitters) and grab a suit/magboots from research outpost.

Also, grab the solid plasma from the research outpost and some of the gold from the vault for plasma cutters if you can't find any on the roid. Your AEGs will still need time to self-charge, and while they're dry you'll need a better backup weapon than a welding tool.

And unlike welding tools, plasma cutters don't require refuelling, cut through walls and reinforced walls quickly, and won't ignite plasma in the air if that becomes an issue.
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>>124899509
Bombs don't do dick to blobs anymore. IEDs, yes. Bombs, no.
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>>124900007
>thinking alt titles are worth jack shit

What are we, Bay? Nobody pays attention to alt titles, they're worthless.
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>>124899509
>find core
>teleport super matter crystal to telescience
>teleport super matter crystal to blob core
>???
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>>124910436
>not having one of the scientists do xenoarch focusing on getting xray guns
They wreck blobs, and are fairly common.
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>>124910639
>they're worthless
Tcomms tech gives comms/turret access. So not entirely useless.
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Why does Tcomms even have turrets
You can just.. walk by them
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>>124908458
>wake up
>shitposting in the thread between mechanics and scientists
>i'll play some spess
>can't decide between mechanic, miner, and xenoarch
>pick miner but not enough people in research to keep up with my output
>get xenoarch access from you
>take extra time to carefully excavate dig sites instead of just going in willy fucking nilly like usual
>second dig site had a hover pod
>this is the sound of my heart breaking
>challenge myself to drive this fucker all the way to robotics
>it has the slowest move speed in the game
>its slower than a diona
>finally get it to robotics after 5 minutes
>sleep on my backpack at the holodeck with you
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>>124905657
Congratulations, you're an exception to the rule with too much time on your hands. Meanwhile, all the other scientists are doing the other shit Science offers.

Alt titles and the mechanic position do nothing to change a key fact of RND: its boring, repetitive, and little more than checking off boxes on a list. If you want people to do research, you must make it fun in and of itself in the same way that (for example) Toxins is fun, and also make its products more useful to the scientists themselves.

So. How do we make RnD fun? We could try scrapping the DA and require actual experimentation with different items to research them. It's research after all, so there ought to be some way to tinker with different items to make new ones.
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>>124910947
Its basically to make noise while someone is inside. they can also break the monitors
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>>124898892
>>Miners: Get back Uranium as fast as possible for AEGs, speed is key
>>124910436
>>124910776
yall niggas know the shuttles don't move during blob right

I feel like someones going to get cute and say telesci but telesci is rarely on point.
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>>124911021
I'm all for scrapping the DA flowchart bullshit in favor of something.. else.
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>>124910776
Problem is that you first need a war site available and then dig the gun up in time. And then hope it's not one of the ones that doesn't recharge.
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>>124909525
All engines but the PAC/superpac/Mrspacman removed when?

>>124910550
It clears blob walls out of the way so you waste less shots on useless shit. Also harder for it to wall rush you since it needs multiple tries to make it.

>>124910642
It doesn't move so it wont touch it and blob cores aren't affected by explosions

>>124910776
Like the other guy said, quarantine a shit.

>>124910947
To make a murder trap
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>>124911021
Only when you have an explosive collar put on your neck irl and are forced to do said research yourself any time serb is below 30 players or it kills you for making us have to deal with that shit in lowpop.
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>>124910642
In fact, if you vent the room, it shouldn't get much energy and will instead kill anyone who can see you with rads and hallucinations.
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>>124911324
>do rnd so other jobs get easier waaaah
nothing rnd produces is anything other than a quality of life asset. even medical burn packs and trauma kits are not essential.

Tinkering with weapons and components to improve fire rate, damage, material efficiency, build time. seems like a neat idea.
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>>124911112
As am I.

Most of the other major servers that I know of (Bay, Goon, TG, d20, and Paradise) all seem to have this same system though, so we'll either need to find one that doesn't and see how their system works or got through the complex process of making a new one from scratch.
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>>124911753
I can confirm that Bay has the same system, just a different flowchart. Weird how their mining is different but research is still same fucking shit.
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>>124911229
>>124911570
Teleporting a supermatter crystal worked before. The core just popped in a sea of green.
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>>124911794
>their mining is different
How?
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>>124911806
Oh neat as heck. Thanks man
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>>124911836
Alloys. Steel needs iron (hematite) and coal (raw carbon) for example.
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>>124911836
Lot less ore on the roid, no monsters, different ores.
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>>124911753
What about that token system somebody mentioned?
Do your job, get tokens, redeem tokens at a vendor to get advanced tools you'd normally get from the Protolathe.
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>>124911936
Sounds nice, would require a MASSIVE rewrite and >idea guys coding anything
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>>124883520
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>>124911936
I can see it now
>Everyone upset at R&D because they keep spending their tokens on cool shit they can use and not new drills for mining etc
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>>124912398
And it would be impractical if you needed an item from it quickly but the part of the station where you would do the job required for the tokens was destroyed or inaccessible. Plus, that would work better as part of a job objective system in general- why should science alone get cool shit for completing those objectives? Having everyone on a similar system would make all departments more motivated to do their work.

What RnD needs is something as engaging and interactive (relatively speaking) as the other science departments, but not so complex that it won't be able to make stuff like advanced trauma kits until nearly an hour into the round.
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>>124912582
That also wouldn't really work in the long run.

>Most departments now get cool shit, except for Security because the only way the game can score their performance is through antag kills, minor kills like carp and major kills like changelings blah blah, but for everything else they do you need a human to determine if they did a good job or not and if they deserve to receive tokens.
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>>124912398
>We hoard the tokens in the RD's locker
>ALL the tokens
>Crew begin to raid us
>We're bucking corpses into chairs to block laser fire
>Eventually they breach us
>Our last man threatens to push the button
>They shoot him
>Science is vaporized
But at least they didn't git their damn dirty hands on our tokens.
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>>124912398
>>124912582
I'm thinking more of a vending machine type deal where you put your tokens earned through job objectives and get an item to enhance your job experience.

Medical vendor would have surgical tools and advanced kits/beakers, sec would get AEGs and assault rifles, mining vendor has ddrills, etc.

Do your job, get tokens for completing job objectives, get cool shit related to your job.
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>>124912848
And how would the game evaluate Sec? Like I said >>124912835 here, the only way their performance can be judged by the game is through antag kills. Everything else is context and needs a human to determine if they did good.
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>>124911836
They have several ore types that you have to properly smelt together to get the resulting material instead of just shoving it into the smelter and it shitting out everything.

They also have a large mining drill you set up, using a mining device you can find which parts of the asteroid have good bits in it, then you wrench it on the floor and it drills.
You go and collect it every now and then, and change its battery.
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Dunno if someone else already posted it but I think there are still some keks to be had

Some nigger posted actual CP on the Lifeweb forums because he thought that was the kind of community the game had and Randy either turned the servers over to Interpol or said "alright fuck this" and left. For some odd reason the game servers are still up, or were from the last I heard. I'm not going to try connecting in case the gubberment is monitoring activity and looking for asses to kick. I really don't need a baton up the ass, hemorrhoids and such.
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>>124913115
I actually kind of like this but not the smelting part, I don't want to play fucking Dwarf Fortress I'm in spess.
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>>124912949
maybe by the amount of people arrested or something like that?
but that would be easy for sec to abuse by arresting each other or the same person over and over unless they had something like a minute long cooldown before it could count another person or some shit like that
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>>124912949
>no bwoinks
>doing a good job so far sec, here, have some tokens
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>>124913259
That's a shitty system because it simply wouldn't do anything without admins.
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>>124913160
Well when you can rape just about anything in game it's not too hard to imagine it'd draw the wrong crowd.

Shame about the CP, but if randy fucked off maybe we can finally make use of his code.
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>>124913115
>You go and collect it every now and then, and change its battery.
Since there aren't any monsters to fight or anything, what are you supposed to do in the meantime?
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>>124913315
Maybe Admins hand out the tokens personally.
Good Boy Tokens
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>>124913406
I don't think BYOND sends code to the player anymore.
You would need someone to sneak into his Vodka Shack while he's in jail to get the code proper.
Unless you mean people playing the game a lot to guess how the code works.
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>>124913469
Nope. Gives admins more shit to do and the system wouldn't work in general, not for any department.

How do you hand the tokens to? The entire department? Because let's say one guy wires 55% of a solar and the other guy does 45%, who gets the tokens? Do you get tokens just from placing fucking coils near the solar? Etc etc.

This problem will occur within every single department and would just swamp admins because they suddenly have to be omni-scient/omni-present.
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>>124913464
That's pretty much it. Set the drill down, go mine something else, I think they might have hidden rooms like we do?

They probably ARRPEE in the meantime, that's pretty much their server, isn't it?
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>>124913464
Push down the other miner and rape him into quivering jelly on the airless asteroid.
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>>124913545
Figured he stashed it on a repo somewhere, though if he's in the gulag it'd be tough to figure out how to get ahold of it.

Is lifeweb up at least? I managed to play it all of one time, looked fun.
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>>124913464
Race the other miner for the hardsuit
Fight to the death in mining outpost storage for the hardsuit
Stuff guy's corpse somewhere on the asteroid
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>>124913406
I only started playing in July and the quality of the community was taking a dive but it was massively better before this shit happened. If what people who played when it got an English release are to be believed the community policed itself and fucked shitters up, forcing them out.

Then, much like here, the people who got the boot developed god complexes and acted like retards on the forums, which attracted real retards. One of the last rounds I played I walked in on two cerbs fucking a squire boy, one of them being his father, and the guy playing the squire said something to the effect of this "being his initiation" in LOOC.
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>>124912582
Oh, anyway, I think I have an idea that we might be able to work with. I found this feature on the TGstation wiki, and with a bit of tweaking it might be capable of taking the place of the current research system.

https://tgstation13.org/wiki/E.X.P.E.R.I-MENTOR

Not only could it be used for "conventional" research with a tech tree, but it would encourage further tinkering by adding the possibility of creating unique items as a byproduct of the experimentation process. Plus, the randomness factor of it will ensure RnD can't be reduced to a checklist.
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>>124913750
Don't bother, it isn't worth it. The community has turned into deathmatching faggots that will kill you for not being in their "meta clan" and spam LOOC taunting you rather than attempt to RP, which is what the game was fucking for initially.
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>>124913867
Again this shouldn't be a science only thing because scientists just end up getting cool shit for themselves or hoarding the stuff they get, never telling the other departments they ever got it.
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>>124913772
I remember everyone being trapped at the train station, door to the castle had no power. Things slowly descended into madness, people hurling themselves into the track, started worshiping the train.

Near the end of it we had to fight off a vampire by hand and toss it into the oncoming train car, got intense fast.
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>>124913917
>With the loss of their leader the server has turned into a tribal wasteland
Spooky
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>>124914029
>Wants the benefits of the hard labor of another
vgstation is dying.
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>>124914029
>Miner: "D-Did you guys find anything cool for mining yet?"
>Scientist testing a diamond drill of holding that sucks up ore that it reveals on a reinforced glass window: "Sorry, couldn't hear you over the sound of doing science. No, nothing for mining just yet."
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Tinystation when?
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>>124914285
>diamond drill of holding
FUND IT
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D

I
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>>124914302
MICROstation when? >Each department is a 2 by 3 block

Or how about SEPARATEDstation? Each department is its own small space station
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>>124914618
Atmosia has declared war on Custodia!
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>>124914285
>spend time making something
>miner comes up
>GIMME GIMME GIMME
stop being leeches, once something is tinkered mechanics can make it.
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>>124914867
>once something is tinkered mechanics can make it
No it won't, you science fucks are just going to hide your toys.
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>>124914029
Technically, one could do the same thing with the current system- that's more of a player issue than anything else.

Plus, the device itself has a low chance of malfunctioning, which tends to do very bad things to anyone nearby. For example, instead of upgrading an item it might release a pulse of radiation. Or start a fire. Or upgrade the item by sucking the life force out of everyone nearby to do so. Or teleporting Ian to itself for no apparent reason.

It wouldn't be !!SCIENCE!! without taking a few risks, right?
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>>124913867
Porting is for the weak
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>>124914285
Basically this
Scientists will be too busy flying through space using their Portable Atmos Bubble that projects a warm atmospheric bubble around the wearer so they can be in space but not be exposed to vacuum then phasing through walls with their Portable Phase Shifter.
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>>124915150
Assuming they could even get lucky enough to make those. Bear in mind that you don't get to choose the exact results of how the item gets upgraded, and the code for the thing suggests making something that over-the-top may not even be possible.

Here's the code for it for anyone who understands it. If someone can break down exactly what it can do, that would be nice.

https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/blob/master/code/modules/research/experimentor.dm
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>>124915439
We're not going to port shit. That system sucks balls anyway.
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>>124915524
I was suggesting using it as a template, or at least as a potential alternative to current RnD.

If you have any better ideas, go ahead and post them. Just about anything would be an improvement to the current RnD system at this point.
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Just a reminder, the science departments job is research. Every other departments job is maintaining the station for the science team.
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>>124916004
Exactly this, i'm not even sure why the other departments are needed.

It's like a vault. The only people who truly matter are the science team, but the other departments gets antsy and end up ruining fucking EVERYTHING and hating on the scientists for DOING THEIR JOBS.

End scientist shaming.
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>>124916004
>>124916208
My little Scientist-kun couldn't be this delusional right?
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>>124916268
They're the department that gets all the cool toys and sits in research shooting open locked weapon cases.
They are this delusional.
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>>124916425
Scientists are hilarious to observe though.
>Scientist invents some kind of gun
>Wants to test it at the firing range
>HoS agrees, lets him into the firing range
>With one blast he shoots a whole straight through the firing range causing him to get sucked into space
>The one thing he managed to mumble was "W-W-WORTH IT"
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>SS13
>Utilizing Moonbase Alpha's voice chat
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>Scientists get to play with their research toys
>everyone else is jelly
Should have chosen to a scientist. Its literally a research station. Why the fuck would to toss useful shit to every no-body who comes knocking? So they can play cowboys in the halls or on the roid?
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>>124916732
>not having text2speech software installed and hearing spess with everyone's text narrated by Microsoft Sam
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>>124916732
Everyone sounds like Stephen Hawking right? That shit was priceless. HOLLER HOLLER GET $. BRBRBRBRBRBR.

In SS13 it would be even more priceless. "I DIN DU NUFFIN, I DIN DU NUFFIN" "ADMIN HELP IM BEING GRIFF"
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>>124916732
>>124916865
There was some server that did this, can't remember which.
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>>124916936
So it can be done
THIS MUST BECOME A FEATURE, but give it a toggle obviously
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are we done pretending the protolathe has anything except assault rifles, advanced eguns, bags of holding, NVGs, ablative, hookshot, and diamond mining drills
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>>124916865
Wouldn't it get annoying to hear [Common], [Engineering] etc constantly?

>>124917040
You forgot rapid exchange device.
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>>124917040
are you done powergaming?
If so, yes.
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>>124917090
who gives a shit about other departments? that's the mechanic's job
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>>124917140
>Not even upgrading the machines in R&D itself
>Waiting on a mechanic
kek
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>>124916859
Big talk for the Miner's bitch.
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>>124917235
>kek
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>>124917527
Yeah because posting some silly image is much better right? :^) Stepped on your toes didn't I?
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>>124916618
>>124916425
wait what?

Did the science system change since i've been banned? Can you make RNG and research based experimental tech shit now?
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>>124917793
No
Guy 1 was talking about science on Bay
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>>124916936
New Eden did.
Had pitches and 'accents' too, it sounded terrible but it was funny to listen to, got obnoxious after a while though.
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>>124917591
>responding to shitposting with shitposting
Well he was a bit right, you are faggot.
inb4 y-you too!
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>At science, asking for some stuff
>Captain arrives
>His named Blood Darkshadow
>Throws a teleporter beacon into RnD behind the scientist at the counter
>/me teleports behind you
>Teleports behind the scientist with a hand tele

10/10 captain
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Sorry Angel.
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>>124918950
Y-You too!
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>>124918990
Thanks lad.
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>>124913545
byond never sends the code to the client, only art and sound assets along with whatever you may need for browser based things
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>>124917523
>Not mining and smelting yourself
Do you even lowpop?
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>Be Roboticist
>There is the edge captain and I think I saw a justice owl
>I'am getting bored, it's time to step up my gimmick game
>PRAISE THE MACHINE GODS
>Later a brain of a terrorist arrives and gets into an edge contest with the Captain
>the Captain wins, and leaves
>I want to borg it but I am having fun spouting nonsense about THE MACHINE GODS
>He dosent believe me and start mocking my religion
>I say I will not borg him until he says "Praise THE MACHINE GODS"
>He mocks me more and I try praying to show him the truth
>nothing
>I try to sacrifice him but the saw is not doing the trick
>It escalates to me trying to kill him in a mech
>and still failing
>I need to go afk soon
>I take his brain out and start throwing it around the room in a fit of rage, until the captain came and took the brain
>after hearing the last insult I suicided in my office
>8/10 would suicide again
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Nobody's actually going to be able to come up with a replacement for the RnD system that everyone can agree on using, are they?
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>>124921060
Was a shame you had to leave, we ended up bringing a bunch of combat drone boards to robotics just a little afterwards. He insisted his banter had bested you.
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>>124894076
( I always read everything )
The thing is he wasn't right. I /was/ just an assistant.
Now I'm kind of thankful he didn't act on it!
( Aside from the bickering I'm seeing it, I thought it was fun. Of course there'd be misidentifications during stress! )
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>>124921590
well, no one will code it.
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Reading some stuff, plus the blob rounds happening has got me wondering. Would temp guns get to heat work on it like normal eguns? Or for that matter can temp guns heat things or do they only cool?
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I'm curious to see how long it'll be before Assdad gets banned. He fits every criterium for it, none of the players like or support him, he's almost precisely just TermedClepe 2.0.
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>>124922628
That's because he is termed ban evading for the third time now
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>>124921590
What's wrong with the RnD system?
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>>124923270
A retarded 6 year old can do it
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241st for IPCs never
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>>124923445
Pomf did say no.
Which is interesting because he let skelememes in and birdshits.
At least he removed the skeletons.
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>>124923270
It's boring.
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>>124923539
Every time I see "___ is boring" it's talking about a system that no one who actually plays on the server wants to see changed.

If a poll was started to see if anyone wanted xenoarch/rnd/xenobio/virology changed, the votes would heavily favor no change.
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>>124924087
Are you retarded? That is literally the reason. You can max research levels BLIND it's that fucking easy. 3x mech syringe gun, atmospheric analyzer, 2x high capacity power cell etc
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>>124924087
>if anyone wanted xenoarch
Yeah all of 3 people that play it.
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>>124924628
There's a lot more than 3 of us that play it you pessimistic faggot.
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>>124924087
I think most people would agree that some systems like genetics and virology are extremely reliant on Rng and turn into a waiting game more than anything. While other systems like RnD are completely outside of any kind of randomness and just turn boring as a result of always being the same thing.

The ideal system seems to be a way to always have results of some kind, but for those results to be random. So no more waiting for 10 minutes for you virus to mutate, or injecting the same SE 5 times in a row because hulk has a 5% to proc.
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>>124924805
http://strawpoll.me/6229196

Lets see how many people anonymously say they do
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>>124905204
Not just me, other were talking like that as well.
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>>124924805
Shut up Jakob, go play with your waifumachines somewhere else.
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>>124924957
>Jakob
>calling anyone a faggot
he's pure
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>>124922628
I didn't have any problem with him until I saw him put the nuke disk inside a box with 5 mousetrap polyacid grenades.

And the very next round upload waifu laws to the AI.
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>>124924987
Fuck off Jakob, you fag
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>>124925027
He barely escaped a permaban once, and even that seemed to be more on a technicality than anything else. I'm sure the next time he goes too far he won't be so lucky.
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>>124925027
>And the very next round upload waifu laws to the AI.
What happened?
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>>124925286
AI started banter with the crew because it was bored. People asking the AI if it was a girl, AI responded it was genderless. Assdad as captain uploaded a law making the AI a waifu.

AI got subverted by changelings and ended the station.
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>spectate
>hop in to a posibrain
>waifu law
if he would have made one stupid comment about his law I would have harmbatoned him to death, ban or not.
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>>124924087
Let me give you a concrete example of how bad R&D is.
When Mech syringe guns were added and it was discovered that they allowed people to cheese most of R&D, NOONE COMPLAINED.
PEOPLE WOULD REALLY RATHER DO AS LITTLE R&D AS POSSIBLE
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>>124925990
>nobody in the rnd slot forever in lowpop
>things are at least easy so I can do an entire extra job quickly
>Let's make rnd "interesting" by adding rng busywork that fucks over everybody in lowpop.
If they want "fun" they can check with people who commonly need shit.
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>>124924987
H-how pure are we talking?
I need a new husbando...is he taken already?
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>>124926236
Well, you'll never see him and he probably won't talk to you if you did, then he'll end up dead or murdered later on by an artifact/changeling.
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>>124926186
You're assuming here that any modification to R&D would end up in RNG busywork. Essentially, "we can't change it because if we change it in a bad way it will be bad". That's Sarcalogo mentality.
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>>124926386
Go home sarca, you're drunk.
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>running serb on linux
>set up mysql
>DB migrations runs nice, everything else doesn't works, as banning
h-halp
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Changing RND to change RND is silly, especially replacing it with a heavily RNG based system which would just lead to more frustration and would likely not make anybody more willing to do RND, and if they do, share the spoils.
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>>124926348
He sounds pretty pure. I'm down.
But breaking in to get to the asteroid just to get him to notice me is going to be a problem.
I want to be his savior when he dies to the artifact/changeling!
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>>124926236
He's not interested, family. There's a few slutty husbandos who'd probably be interested in you though.
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>>124927118
We're not talking about making RnD more rng based.

We're talking about making it less boring.

Really though, having the current system, and a way to make further improvements to objects without it being tech level dependent would be great. Sounds like a massive coding job though.
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>>124927118
Then what do you suggest to make it less monotonous and more fun?
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>>124927118
I can think of many different ways to change R&D into something that doesn't require tons of RNG.
>have the items necessary for research be exclusively found inside their respective department, i.e. if a doctor wants advanced surgery tools all the need is to bring a liver from the organ printer or something and research on the surgery tools will be done from just that
>have research don't matter a lot and instead have things cost actual, measurable amounts of materials, currently 10 of each lasts you for fucking ever except for diamonds
>tie the high-end research levels to some way of delivering things to people, e.g. if you want your bag of holding you have to physically give a somatoray to botany or something
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>>124927673
How would that last one even work?
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>>124927419
How do you know he isn't interested? Did you even try making advances?
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>>124928050
Easy mode: Put disposals mailing in R&D and grant research when X item is mailed through it.
Buh I want it to make sense mode: Make some shit up about the shit you give away having wireless syncing and your research is increased as people use it. As soon as the Botanist unloads a few times in a tray you get your *ping and your research. downside: the botanist has to actually exist and do the thing
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>>124927632
>lowpop
>be roboticist
>the only scientist fucks off to the asteroid
>Just want to make borgs

See any problem here?
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like others have said, it's easier to compare rd to cryogenics than it is to an actual job. it's something that has to be done for the station to run efficiently, it's very tedious, and can be done essentially the same way every time. i'd actually consider getting rid of it completely if a revision people can agree on is impossible.
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>>124928273
That's retarded son
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>>124928429
>make a minerborg
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>>124928443
It's just the first thing I came up with to prove the new system doesn't need to be RNG.
For reference, though, you gotta way WHY it's retarded.
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>>124928429
How is that different from currently. If you're on low pop, there's nothing preventing the only scientist to fuck off anyway.

The post you're replying to even says that the current system could be kept but allow FURTHER improvements. Meaning it changes nothing to what currently happens, but turns RnD into an actual job once the chore of increasing the tech levels is done.
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This is precisely why I coded Botany3 without asking the thread about it.
All you people do is get stuck on the worst possible case and never move on from there.
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Give R&D a tech tree
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>>124928857
>this is precisely why i did something that is utter garbage
>because criticism might improve it
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>>124928929
I had criticism alright, I asked the IRC and took feedback from experienced botanists in Github.
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>>124928905
>Tech trees
We Civ now.
Why not a tech web like Civ: Beyond Earth?
Am I the only one that likes the tech web?
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>>124929035
thanks so much for your bloated garbage that nobody will use because botany poisoned itself eating 20x herb salad

where can i donate for more?
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>>124929094
Tech Webs are fun, but they need to make sense.

The tech web in Endless Space is alright by me. The tech web in Beyond Earth is a fucking mess. Or at least it was last time I played, haven't tried rising tides yet.
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>>124927632
>Be mediborg
>Ask for and tell them how to make the upgrade if they don't know
>Even less people can make my upgrade because of time and access issues I can't go resolve cause I'm treating dying people.
Beep boop. Execute suicide.exe
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>>124928929
eric
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>>124926236
>>124927419
>>124928224
holy shit, stop being faggots, if you must then take it to /soc/
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>>124929293
>where can i donate for more?
I do it for free
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>>124929421
also need more votes
http://strawpoll.me/6212745
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Everything was a mistake
From mafias to waifus
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>>124929627
>no strawberry
caramel
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>>124929293
>botany too stupid to avoid poisoning itself
welcome to space
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>>124929421
valid hunting season on waifu fags please
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Remove the hotkey for eating stuff like sanic, it breaks immersion.
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>>124928591
Currently, it's because disposals mailing is unreliable as shit, and if there's nobody able or willing to use it then your research is halted.
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>>124930185
it happened two or maybe even three games in a row last night with at least one guy being the same person. I was medbay staff for the last round and considered just shoving him down a disposal chute. waste of good chems to bring him back really.
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>>124929627
Crushed candied pecans with a swirl of caramel.
Adds a more complex texture, and who the fuck doesn't like pecans?
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>>124929293
>being upset because stupid person poisoned themselves
I bet you got mad when when people did the same with reishi
>>124930576
topped with the praline or incorporated into the batter?
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>>124930576
>candied nuts
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Do I need to install node.js and compile the goon's master controller for it to work? What else is needed? Will it make the game less laggy?
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>>124930746
>hating praline
>>124930804
...what?
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>>124930746
hows it feel having shit taste you anime poster
simply eric post btw
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>>124930845
>https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/tree/Bleeding-Edge/code/controllers/ProcessScheduler
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>>124930845
>>124930872
Nuts are great by themselves, the moment you fucking lodge them into a minced turd-cobble of karamel you're just going full retard.
And I'm not an animeposter u dolt, that was the only image I had of someone vomiting
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>>124931032
pralined pecans is just a thin coating of brown sugar, it compliments the natural maple flavor of the pecan.
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Okay, my proposal to improve research is

progress bars

seriously, who doesn't love them? just click a button, you get one. You need to periodically click any time one is done so you get a new one.
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>>124931157
That's fair enough I guess, I just can't stand karamel and my sister loves to mix nuts and karamel 50-50.
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>>124931205
Yeah i enjoy pralined nuts but stuff like peanut brittle is too much, can't taste the nuts and all you get is strong caramel flavor
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botany 4.0

combine r&d and botany. you grow plants and shove them in a plant researcher to improve station research levels.

YOU'RE WELCOME
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>>124931436
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>>124931672
because botany didn't have enough shit nobody will use with 3.0
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>>124883520
How about a random event where people are chosen to settle on a tinystation and expand it to make it habitable
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>>124931672
What did he mean by this post?
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>>124931797
says you nerd
I cant wait to have one plant that shits out 50 wheat every harvest filled with tricord and space drugs
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>>124931893
It would be better as a bus.
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>>124913867
People on TG fucking hate this piece of shit
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>>124932220
Well yeah that's what i meant
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Isn't Botany3 all about making mutation less RNG? Why people shittalk it?
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>>124931893
its been done before
It became an issue where people wanted it every round but then it was in the way of antags and shit so then you could shuttle between tiny station and the reg station
led to a shitton of people crowding it and it was canned
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>>124932461
It's not shittalking its fun posting
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>>124929627
G A N A C H E
A
N
A
C
H
E

Alternatively, fuck the thread and make dat sweet black forest gateau instead
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>>124932578
>Gateau
Do foreigners really call french cakes gateau
For what purpose
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>>124932461
because faggot mcfuckstick has to come in here and tell us all smug-like that his super duper botany 3.0 is sooo good because he disregards the thread and just consults the irc metaclub and "experienced botanists" about what to change.
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>>124932461
One guy is very bored
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>>124933753
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>>124933980
Fuck off /tg/
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>>124928624
It's already a job. They should be going around upgrading machines, making machines, and either using cargo or pdaing the customer to send/pickup the somatorays/trauma kits and shit.
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>>124935363
How would R&D use cargo easily?
Consider the fact that it's usually harder to order ANYTHING from Cargo than it is to get something from R&D
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>>124935794
I just wrap shit, write the destination on it then pda whoever I talked to in cargo earlier to tag and mail it there. there's a surprising amount of people who are competent or willing to learn if you stop being an autistic faggot assuming they're shit for five fucking seconds.
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>>124935794
How it should go :
>Go to cargo
>Print what you need delivered
>Chit chat with cargo
>Leave to your department
>Receive delivery through disposals
How it goes :
>Go to cargo
>Wait like an idiot because no one is here
>Ask for something
>Leave
>Come back 20 minutes later
>They didn't order it
>They're either braindead, gone or eating pizza
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>>124936148
my favorite is when cargo refuses to order something saying "you dont need it" when that isnt their job to tell you what you do and don't need.
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>>124936264
Yeah, let's just hand out weapons and supermatter shards to anyone. Good idea.
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>>124936476
>tfw cargo tells sec we don't need weapons crates
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>>124936264
My least favorite is when cargo decided to remove kuzdu from every seeds crate.
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>>124936576
Just hand them the weapons crate and they'll probably give you a stun baton for actually delivering crates for once, Anon.

It isn't hard.
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>>124936743
I wonder if those dumb niggers realize that some of the exotic seeds possess kudzu growth and are probably more dangerous in any case.
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>>124936743
>still get the spread gene from the exotic seeds
they're asking for it
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>>124916936
Yep. It was New Eden. It was a little broken too, 'cause you could still hear text spoken in other in-game 'languages'.

> Relatively new, was playing as a Chef
> Learning to make bread, burgers, steak, etc.
> Monkey crawls out of a vent
> Monkey screeches, "*E***"
> Hear txt2spch "PENIS"
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>>124933512
>black forest gateau
>french

It's a schwarzwalderkirschtorte, it's German.
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>>124935363
Making machines and upgrading is a mechanic's role, we've been through this already. RnD's job is to make brand new shit, the problem is that (as was mentioned dozens of times) it's repetitiv, leaves no room to innovate or make new shit that isn't on a predefined list, and far more boring than literally everything else available in the science division. It may be a job in the barest sense of the word, but right now it's so simpler even a monkey could do it.

Make it less boring, and all the problems will vanish- start by letting them do stuff after all the research levels are maxed, or allow them to try and make modifications to items. Or even invent brand new shit that's independent from the tech levels that all end up maxed fice minutes into the round so the research-focused scientists actually have a job to do beyond acting like Cargo with labcoats.

Oh, and
>using Cargo when Telescience is a few feet away
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>>124936148
I would stand up for Justice and The Mail...
if every cargo tech I met didn't act you described.
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>>124933512
black forest gateau is a german cake.
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>>124937028
you could hear text2speech while unconscious as well and they never fixed it.
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>>124937747
:^)
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>>124937747
>Reporting to sec that Cargo is hoarding weapons
>Teleport the Armoury in
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>>124929685
Was I a mistake, anon?
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>>124938460
Especially you actually
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>>124937747
>science players are SO FUCKING TERRIBLE that a new job had to be invented to do the things they were supposed to do
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>>124938991
yup
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>>124938520
I know. Thanks for telling the truth.
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>>124938991
>>124939178
>Playing sci to do telescience means you're automatically required to do research, make a half dozen deliveries of rnd shit, machines and upgrade the station
>A shitty clone of rnd called mechanic is made
>It does research, makes deliveries of rnd shit, builds machines, and upgrades the station
>But nobody is mad at mechanics when they aren't doing it because the crew manifest lists mechanics (0)
>Yet it's anudda holocaust when there's nobody in science playing rnd
Ya'll a bunch of niggers.
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>>124939527
>playing xenobio
>do some rnd for temp guns
>people whine to me constantly that they need a certain item researched
>bolt the lab open and go into xenobio
>crew breaks in through space and lynches me for no reason
>admins say it was fair because i was "sabatoging the station by not doing your job"
>the entire ahelp chat is him being a total asshole and implying i don't know how to do RND
>not going to make a deadmin request because most of the people who have made one are now permabanned along with the admin never being punished for their bullshit

Seriously, they always "take a vacation" instead of getting their punishment and then when they come back they just forget what happened. Nuke has already done it like two times and nobody ever says shit.
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>>124939890
>scientists are shitters
>admins are shitters
ban them both i say
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>2:00 am: just screaming

Someone post it
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Fuck you!
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>that round
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>>124939890
Tell us so we can bully him in OOC
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what WAS THA COMFY SONG?
Also sleeping xenos a cute
Also Warden holy shit you fucked up big time even in a execution
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>>124939890
Logs bruh. Drop them logs cause that's straight up bullshit. I've been as shit as possible aat chemist and not once have they let lynchers get away with it when it's simple negligence.
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>>124939890
>sabotaging the station by not doing your job
a whole lot of people just became valid.
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>>124939980
Hotline Miami and RoR
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>Tfw kill two Blobs solo and another with help in one round
:^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^)
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>>124939963
>tfw can't cuff grey criminals to the shower and meander about the room giving a monologue about degenracy
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>>124939963
what outfit/suit lets me join the leather club?
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>>124940027
Be specific about RoR please
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>>124940081
First one was Arctic Oscillation. Second one was Coalescence. Round end song was Le Perv by Carpenter Brut
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>>124940129
I love you buddy, no homo
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>>124939963
>showers
>not the actual locker room
fuck you leatherman
>>124940056
The Darkholme. Insert silver coin into autodrobe
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>>124939890
>they always "take a vacation" instead of getting their punishment and then when they come back they just forget what happened
Your story sounds like bullshit but this is too true, nuke you fucking asshole.
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>>124939890
>job select, didn't even SELECT doctor
>assigned doctor
>no other doctors
>do my job, set up cryo and cloning, at least to a bare minimum
>don't complain
what a fucking asshole
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>>124940213
>at least to a bare minimum
I don't understand how i didn't do the bare minumum there.

I raised most research levels above 4 for the temp gun and then i bolted open the rnd area so people could do their own rnd.

What did i do to deserve a lynching?
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>>124940043
I hope I was a decent assistant ma'am.
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>>124938991
>missing the point

The scientists do RnD to unlock shit on the protolathe, and the mechanic prints out said shit, specifically the 3rd-tier stock parts.

It's not a "job" if you can complete it all in ten minutes or less. Now, are you going to make RnD fun as well as useful or will you just shitpost while pretending the underlying issue doesn't exist?
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>>124940350
>jobs
>supposed to be fun

Are you fucking retarded?

Jobs are just there as filler, you aren't supposed to enjoy doing them. They're a means to an end, not the point of the game.
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>>124940279
You made this up because you still haven't posted logs of it.

Oh, and.since only people with RnD access can actually use the protolathe bolting the doors open was worth jack shit. If you're going to make it available to everyone, at least get a Science ID for people to use to go with it.
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>>124940309
You were lad
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>>124938460
>>124939359
That guy wasn't me.
If you're R., E. or F., you really weren't.
But then again, ALL waifus were a mistake.
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>>124940628
fuck off shiggy
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>>124940436
>I don't have to set up the power as an engineer, it's just a means to an end!
>I don't have to heal people as a doctor, it's just a means to an end!

God forbid you sign up for a job with actual responsibilities.
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>>124940765
No
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>>124940628
glad to see you're dropping the waifus shiggy. come do bro stuff instead, it's a lot less cancerous.
>>
>>124940436
What you're describing isn't a game, it's a fucking chatroom simulator with a crude combat system tacked on. Nobody on this server plays for the ARR PEE (except for you, it seems), so the least the game can do is have gameplay that's worth shit.
>>
>>124940982
That's so inaccurate
A lot of people play for RP
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>>124940982
>lol nobodylikes RPing on this medium RP server

Fuck off m8
>>
What's that one spoopy depressing song on the emagged juke?

Sounds like someone is playing a distorted organ with wind whistling.
>>
Why would anyone want to have RP (say, medium RP) on a server like this? Ridiculous.
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>>124942550
Because with no RP it would basically be everyone talking in OOC all the time
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>>124942550
I think the appeal is that it has the excitement of a no RP server with a community that's generally out to have fun.
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>>124942749
And how is that bad? Fun is more important than strict RP regulations.
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>>124942816
Officially retarded.
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>>124942550
RP and actually talking is pretty robust.

Even the most full-on robustmode powershitters would feel compelled to say at least a word or two if you try to say something before they stunlock welderspace or lingsting.
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>>124942816
Talking in /say is strict fun
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>>124942902
You can get the fuck back to bay or any other cancerous heavy RP community whenever you want, faggot.
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>>124942550
Because, historically, we've had a decent amount of RP.
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>>124942902
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>>124942098
>A lot of people play for RP

I hope you aren't confusing "a lot" with a majority.
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>>124943047
If you can't even see how no RP and everyone talking in OOC would hurt the game, yes, you're fucking retarded. For one it makes shit impossible for antags.
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>>124943308
>For one it makes shit impossible for antags.

You're truly retarded. Antags just need to gitgud.

Right now anyone on /vg/ can valid salad any antag, yet antags can still fuck you up.

Back to bay with you.
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>>124943087
>historically, we've had a decent amount of RP.
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>>124943484
>herpadurr yer just a casual
That's the only shit you can spout, isn't it? You don't even have a proper argument, it's just GIT GID CASUALS I CAN BEAT EVERYONE EVEN IF THEY CAN COMMUNICATE AT ANY TIME.
>>
When do you think that Pomf is going to shut down his server for good? Nothing is eternal.
>>
>>124942206
We're a light RPing server, what are you getting at?
>>
>>124943894
when the time comes
and that is nowhere near now
unless you treat it as such
to assume the worst is right around the corner will always make you right
how do you think /pol/ gets to say they are always right?
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>>124943308
>>124943601
It's not real posts, he's HUR DUR IM RETARDing. Maybe has vendetta? Likely not.
I wouldn't worry about it, the same kind of shits like to bug /dfg/ a lot about tiles.
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>>124943484
It is dumb. Why actually plan out your attacks so your targets can't get help when they can shout that you're an antag over OOC? You're also forgetting that bullshitting is a skill in this game and can be just as useful as being robust. There's a reason many antags roles are encouraged to not let anyone know what the are.
>>
>taking the time to chat instead of stunglove cablecuff tabling everyone that has the audacity to talk to you

GIT ROBUST RPFAGS
I
T

R
O
B
U
S
T

R
P
F
A
G
S
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>>124943894
plan for the worst, hope for the best
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>>124944306
No need to table someone when they're already cuffed, you unrobust scrub.
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>>124944306
Please, Mr. Syndiecat, please stop shooting I'm roleplaying at you. Please, play along with me, I'm speaking to you. Please, stop shooting us. I have the disk it's in a cake in space. Please, don't trust your pinpointer and continue on with your objectives, Mr. Syndiecat. Wh-why is none of this working?
>>
>>124944596
>put the disk inside a cake slice
>put the cake slice inside the clown
>put the clown inside cryo
>start a plasma fire in the room
>>
>>124944732
>Not teleporting the clown to a random tile in space
>>
Reminder that if you want to be truly robust, play a bald character. Never use backpacks, only satchels or nothing. Use sec or medHUDs whenever possible, preferably the latter.
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>>124944962
Why bald?
>>
>>124944732
Does implanting it into someone's chest and gibbing them still work?
>>
>>124945156
smaller sprite
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>>124945156
Having hairstyles makes your character's sprite larger, and thus easier to click.
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>>124945203
It'll respawn da disk
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>>124945306
oh, they fixed that finally?
>>
>>124942258
Anyone?
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>>124944104
>/pol/ gets to say they are always right

But /pol/ is never right. Whenever a prime minister stubs their toe somewhere they shout WORLD WAR 3 NUKES DEPLOYED
>>
reminder shiggy eats ass like a camel lapping up water.
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>>124945545
http://ss13.pomf.se/media/source/emagged/hyuponia-ruin-of-sadness.mp3 this?
>>
Any reason why clicking links in the chat causes massive lag?
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>>124945970
It tries to open it in BYONd first, then it tries to go through internet explorer, and is then redirected to your regular browser or something silly like that.
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>>124945885
Yes! Thanks.

Was bugging me for over a week because I didn't know its name or where it was from. Time to figure out what its source is.

It's a nice song despite being depressing.
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>>124946420
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfGRZPbkdUY
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>>124944732
>watch someone make an elaborate matroyshka container for the nuke disk
>ops just acid it and go after the respawned disk
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>>124939890
>>124940279
random people aren't authorized to use the RnD computer I'm pretty sure, or is that only for the exosuit thing?
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>>124946570
>It's from a game for furfags with some sort of Tails knockoff on the cover
Should have expected as much from the emagged juke.
Now I'm even more depressed since I actually liked that song.
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>>124947578
Well at least now we know you're underage
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>>124944306
>just call the shuttle the instant it becomes available at round start

GET FUKKEN REKT ANTEGG FUCKS UNROBUST AS SHIT LAWL

NO GREEN TEXT 4 ANY ONE
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>>124948780
Daily reminder
AI and Borgs can call the shuttle at round start to prevent human harm
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>>124948997
No, you can't call the shuttle before ~5 minutes, instead you get a message that says "The shuttle's engines are cooling down."
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>>124949641
Sounds like antag shitters need to get good and get all their objectives done in 15 minutes
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>>124947578
>He can't enjoy games with masterfully crafted levels, gameplay, music, visuals, and story
>Just because the game has young anthro boys in it

I was 13 once, too, and it was awful.
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>>124936743
Exotic seed crates are locked now, no more Cargo robberies
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If there was a captain/any other head of staff/AI that would always try to call the shuttle as soon as possible (5-10 minutes after roundstart?), would it be tolerated by the admins in a long term?
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>>124948780
>That one captain who calls the shuttle the second he sees nuke ops
Pisses me off to no end.
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>>124950932
Probably not, they would say 'fishing for antag rolls'
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No.
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>>124950983
What if said player had all of their antag preferences disabled, or is somehow banned from all antag roles?
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>>124950932
Admin recalls shuttle first times, then tempban from head roles.
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>>124951023
Yes
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>>124951204
Tempbanned under which pretext? No server rule is being broken with these actions.
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>>124951375
Intentionally trying to ruin the round by calling the shuttle 10 minutes in for literally no raisin?
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Is there an easy way to find the Salvage Shuttle?
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>>124951504
Your server rules are faaaar too vague, no wonder there's endless shitposting about bans on the thread.
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>get antag
>antag it up some
>do a bit of murderboning while I am at it
>someone calls the shuttle because of my bullshit
>don't recall and let the shuttle come

Does that mean I am a shit antag? Or am I supposed to deconstruct the shuttle console and camp arrivals until an ERT/Deathsquad is sent in, and murder them too?
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>>124950957
>people complain about light RP and just want everyone to just do their job/objectives
>the majority of antags lose if the shuttle makes it to centcom
>the fastest way for the crew to win is thus to call the shuttle at the first chance

just git gud ;^)
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>>124951647
ok
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>>124951647
Oh, it was just the tricky DINDUNUFFIN RULESSUCK bait!
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>>124951689
No, its perfectly normal, and in fact makes you better than the people who drag a shift out simply because they can.
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>>124951727
>Not calling the shuttle to evac the civvies, while holding your own in your bunker/office

>>124951883
There's been a fair amount of them lately, had a guy the other day try to avoid a bannu for trying to kill his host as a shade because "It didn't say I was supposed to protect them, just cause chaos for them".

then when there's any discussion about making the rules more robust to counteract the smart allecks it's met with GO BACK TO BAY


This place puts me off going on holiday to america, it's the exact same as how america's stereotyped politically wise
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>>124952182
Celt was supposedly rewriting the rules but has yet to show me anything.
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>>124951504
And also metagaming, since it can reveal the round type (since the shuttle can't be called during malfunction or revolution)
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>>124952353
well it can be called but auto recalls, still a valid addition though.
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>>124952182
The smart alecks would just find new loopholes to exploit. Do you really think just rewriting the rules will make them stop being shitters?
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I want to do it with Pomf!
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This round was shit
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Three cultists at round end. Two living cultists at round end.
Pretty good.
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Hi guys your friend assdad211 here to comment on nuke disk strategy.

The best tactic, which is to put the nuke disk into a box that has a mousetrap grenade (triggers when you reach inside a container) rigged with gib-strength water/potassium, has been nerfed on /vg/.

Mousetrap grenades now do not trigger when inside boxes or any other container - only when in satchels. And they are coded to delete the satchel when they trigger, so that the nuke disk gets reset and the ops can get it.

However, you can avoid this satchel mousetrap grenade whitelist by making the grenades with a signaller-igniter assembly, putting them in the box, then putting a signaller-mousetrap assembly into the box. In this way, when they reach inside they will trigger the standalone signaller-mousetrap assembly, which will send a signal that will trigger the signaller-igniter assembly attached to the grenade in the box. This way you can defend the nuke disk with mousetrap grenades while it resides inside a box.

This has been nuke powergaming tips with your friend assdad211.
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>>124950932
Well, if the station is somehow fucked beyond belief after 5 minutes, then I guess it's fine.
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AI's inbuilt every channel radio is fantastic, thank you for this great addition to the game
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>>124952653

>tfw wasn't given a book
>somehow still elude suspicion until later despite being suspicious as fuck and loaded with all sorts of tools of illegal trade

At least, I got on good terms with most of you.
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>being a part of the anti-cult security ss
Get fucked cult!
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>was KO'd for 20 minutes because of single spider I was fighting with welder
Don't fuck with the spiders.
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>Explosive goes off at the art thing
>Walk into the medbay to get meds
>Converted but no book
>Guy who converts me is dragged away screaming by sec
>Hang out at the holodeck

Pretty comfy round
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>assistant!
>some other guy kills himself in front of me so I decide to make a burger meal out of him
>the chef agrees with me but tells me I could have cake too if I take his brain out
>hack in to ghetto surgery and debrain him
>get everything for my special meal and surgery arrests me
>they throw me in to perma brig for some reason
>spend the rest of the round making meals and growing things, get lots of monkey friends and invite people for meals
>every now and then pester the AI for my special meal
>captain comes in to talk to me once or twice but quickly runs off.
>A cargo tech brings in exotic seeds for me and we hand out a while
>just before I can test my last few seeds some security officer comes to take me to the shuttle
>may as well eat this Chili?
>it has advanced mutation toxin and turned me in to a slime
>escape on the party shuttle with the captain

comfy/10 round, don't know why I was brigged I didn'tdonuffin.
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>>124952737
Who were you
I just stunned everyone I saw in the brig that didn't have an implant and wailed on them with the good book until they deconverted or the warden told me to stop.
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>>124952670

>Mousetrap grenades now do not trigger when inside boxes or any other container - only when in satchels

thats stupid
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>>124952894
Captain here, sorry dinduslime bro. First time I went to see you sec was about to raid medbay, second time real life happened and I had to go braindead in the execution room for a few minutes.
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>>124952894
I kept asking sec to release you / tell me why your were permabrigged but they wouldn't tell me or they'd tell me they'll look into it and then they never did.
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>>124952906
Dorf Potash Maker.

I listened in on you guys and you're were some gestapo motherfuckers. I'm surprised it took until the shuttle almost docking for you to finally put out for my arrest.

I just wish I was given a book. I even helped start that party just to get Nick in the holodeck so we could surprised sacrifice him, but no one with a book showed up.
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>thermite into the vault because I'm bored
>literally the second I enter, detective bursts through the door
Holy shit
How did you KNOW
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That was the most successful mime round I've ever had. I wish I had recorded that first half, or at least takes screenshots.
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>>124953219
That was some good shit.
ART
I regret not taking pictures.
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>>124953190

Cams maybe

Vault is right near his office
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>>124953147
Oh. And it worked splendidly as he lied on the ground, so vulnerable and easy for the taking of Nar'sie as is his divine right.
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>>124952670
You can also just be robust and not need to cheese it.
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>>124953267
>>124953219
I got you family
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>>124952670
Assdad, have you ever tried playing a newcop round WITHOUT powergaming like a faggot? Since now they'll just make it so no grenades will work when in a container.

Maybe then you might learn how to play the game without exploiting bugs.
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>>124953350
>when there were just two beating hearts in front
Slightly unsettling
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>>124952765
>>124953190

Was pretty fun desu.

>Sit in office to look prints up in the database
>muffled welding noises coming from maint
>Go look
>Assistant in the vault
>"How did you know?"
>"No, Seriously, how the fuck did you know?"

>>124952894
If that's true, I'm really sorry. We got the lead from you breaking into tech storage, then your suit fibers were on the corpse head in ghetto surgery, so we just assumed you killed him.
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>>124952894
The detective had found your fibers on the dead guy's head and surgery room.
You've never explained (to me) that stuff about agreeing with the chef on making a burger out of the suicide victim.
Cult stuff happened so we kinda overlook your case. Sorry about that.
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>>124952894
Breh, HoS here. I felt hella bad too cuz cult erupted before I could let you out and schedule a court hearing. I shoulda just brigged you for 5 minutes but detective insisted you were' the killer. I was down to give you all access or something , but you turned into a slime. sorry bruh
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>>124953694
>>124953864
>>124953992
You forgot to take my gloves so I could have broken out but it was pretty comfy in there to be honest.
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>>124954164
wait up, break out with just gloves? is that even possible?
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>>124952593
No
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>>124954326
break the window, break the grill and then there was something you could break for wire.
Make a speak and smash all the windows from permabrig to security medbay super fast before jumping in disposals.
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>>124887357
Nuke Ops used to start with a reskinned jackboot called the combat boot.

Now they start with SWAT boots.

Also whoever replaced the Deathsquad's SWAT boots with magboots, I fucking hate you and I hope you die. Just make SWAT boots have the magpulse property instead of adding more fucking items to our already overflowing codebase.

God damn our coders are retarded. The reason it takes so long for menus to respond nowadays is because the time for byond to load the fucking cache has risen exponentially because coders keep adding more fucking sprites and items.

So coder, next time you say "Well boy golly gee, this [feature] could use a bit of a perkup, how about I replace this item with a brand new item that functions the same way except for one or two minor differences!" or want to add in a new machine without reusing one of the dozens of STILL unused sprites in our codebase... just repeat this simple phrase in your head:

>hey, or just don't

And in no time our codebase won't be certifiable trash.
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>>124954564
There's also a way to escape via the magic of botany.
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>>124954616
Be the change you want to create, Anon. I'm not learning how to code just to clean out a bunch of ancient meme items that don't work.
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>>124952979
probably a bug since the signaler version triggers fine
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>>124954616
>Expecting our coders to actually optimize their shit beyond minimizing how many nested for-loops they use
Pfft ahahaha. That would imply our coders actually know how to code, and have experience beyond being meme web developers and python kiddies who import everything.
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>>124954832
You mean other than exotic seeds?
I don't know it that well but I would love to learn.
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>>124954923
Leave that bug in anyway, it discourages powergaming fags.
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>>124883520
>nobody reads these anyway
Yes we do!
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>>124955003
>a simple intuitive feature added to the game to make it more fun
>remove it because it encourages powergaming
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>>124955003
It actually works so who knows how he fucked it up
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>>124947301
The trick wouldn't be hiding or the container its in, though that can help. The trick would be making it a nightmare to get to.
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>>124954854
I'm not saying you have to, but don't be like deity. He's literally just as bad as goof, but our playerbase and admins are too retarded to understand why.

>Long ago back before pomf, deathsquad suit was changed to be the parent to all swat suits
>captain was a derivative of this
>deity decides deathsquad needs to be updated
>instead of making any meaningful changes, he gets skowron to slightly alter the swat suit sprite, make the swat suit entirely unused except for the single instance of the captain space suit child
>gets rid of swat boots 4noraisin and replaces them with a shitty resprited, brand new child object of magboots, adding even more bloat
>adds transparency to the helmet for literally no reason other than to make it ugly as hell
>removes the identity masking properties of the SWAT mask and Deathsquad helmet for god knows why
>continually shits up the codebase without ever touching any of the strike team code ever again

as a result, 2 items are now completely unused in favor of deity's special snowflake child objects. Instead of just adding the properties to the SWAT suit like plasma protection and heat protection, he literally made even more overhead by making more unnecessary items. He's as bad as goof, and goof is the only one who'd unironically code something like
>var = 12
>var = 8
>var = 4
>var = 2
all in 4 lines.
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>>124955380
All that incident started a few rounds ago when I, as a nuke ops managed to open the box and grab the disk without the grenades triggering.

And I know exactly why they didn't trigger.
Because I didn't actually "open" the box.
I kept the box in the bag, and dragged the box's sprite to me, and that didn't trigger the grenades. I think they only trigger when one clicks on a container while holding it in your other hand.

Fuck assdad for that awful powergaming though, I'd have ahelped that shit straight away if it had gotten me.
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>>124955716
ah yeah just tested if its in another container it mysteriously fails, how weird
>>
POMF
POMF
DISREGARD ALL THAT YOU HAD PLANNED TO MAKE FOR CHRISTMAS
MAKE BUCHE DE NOEL INSTEAD
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>>124955380
A better question is "why bother having nuke ops rounds when he's on the server"? With that impossible to get around "strategy" he has, he essentially makes it unwinnable for the ops.

>>124955659
If it's so simple, just go and clean the code yourself instead of impotently bitching. It's clearly so damned simple that it'll get merged in a fucking heartbeat.
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>>124955810
>BUCHE DE NOEL
stop watching the holiday baking competition
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>>124955870
No, I want it to stay up there as a reminder of how shit of a coder deity_link is.

And every time this playerbase gets frustrated that menus take forever to load because our cache is xbox fuckhueg, I want them to be reminded of just how shit that fucking retard is.

Suffer for your sins, whores.
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>>124956049
literally what is that
I'm serious pomf, make it
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>>124956063
Don't forget how he added like 15 weapons to the codebase that are blatantly references and 99% of which never get used.

You know. Because instead of figuring out ways to implement the countless unused weapons we have floating around in our codebase, let's just add even more! What a great idea, guys!
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>>124955795
actually i guess it failed for me because the grenade wasn't secured, retested and it worked fine with a box in a satchel.
>>124956220
baking competition and they had yule log as one of the things to make on the last episode.
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>>124956049
pomf is what the anons say correct?

is our codebase bloated?
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>>124956561
bawk
>>
If there was a codebase benchmark, would we win?
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>>124956923
no
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>>124956561
The codebase has been bloated for longer than i have been playing.
>>124956990
if we were closed source and our improvements weren't available for porting we likely would but we're not dildos
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>>124947334
Exofabs. Anyone can print off the rnd console but they can't use the DA

>>124950957
When the nuke ops don't put the nuke on solars or mass bomb.
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>>124958801
>that one round where 4/5 ops said no bombs and the fifth one bombed anyway
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>>124952670
Justl ooked on github, where is it?
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>>124955810
Yule logs are lame as fuck. They're just big swiss cake rolls for quebecers and grannies
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>>124954972
No. Because if it becomes widespread I'm just killing you guys and stuffing you in a locker without a jumper.
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>>124959838
>implying people actually perma brig antags and not just claim their valids on the spot.
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>>124959718
dont shittalk yule logs you fucker
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>>124959989
I can't even think of a weaker holiday desert. Even fruit cakes get a laugh out of some guests at least.
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>>124959280

Okay your friend assdad211 here, pomf just showed me what was happening

Apparently for mousetrap grenades, arming them after you secure them doesn't work, you have to arm the mousetrap-igniter assembly before you put it into the grenade. Then it will work. I don't know why it works like that but it does.
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>>124954832
Good fucking luck getting the green shits to help you out.
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>>124959987
I do unless you were a humongous faggot. If you have leftover crystals so I can get thermals, pda pinpointers and you tell me your obj I'll probably just implant and release you if you're willing to be chill while we put down the other randy faggots.
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>>124960638
for every you there are two sec players who only play sec for their sweet sweet valids and their motto is "IF YOUR SENTENCE IS PERMA THEN I CAN JUST EXECUTE YOU ON THE SPOT WITHOUT ASKING THE CAPTAIN, SPESSLAW SAYS SO"
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>>124952894
I was that MoMMI that kept hanging around your windows. I felt sorry for you, but, you know, MoMMI. The most I could do was reinforce the permabrig's grille casing so your plants wouldn't get spaced by meteors.
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>>124960478
Ain't talking about dionas boyo
>>
1.3 BILLION KPA CANISTER
>>
>caught two people with prox bombs and impersonate voice
Kind of funny.
>>
>>124961970
Then I dunno what you're talking 'bout, there ain't nothing in an unhacked seed dispenser that will help you break free
>>
nth for !SCIENCE!
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>>124962021
>Medbay's windoor still can handle this
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>>124962046
>not catching a changeling sucking off 21 corpses

Small time.
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>>124956063
So who's more pathetic, him or you for doing nothing about it?

I'd have to say you, since at least he made SOMETHING other than shitposts.
>>
>>124962053
There is

The dank OG kush
>>
Who exactly has the ability to play music over the radio?
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>>124962021
I couldn't stop laughing, great fucking job atmosia
>>
>ghost army spamming lights
>sec sees it
>catches the ling
>HoP opens morgue tray
>WIGGLE WIGGLE WIGGLE
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>>124962163
Anyone who gets to the DJ station or configures the highly radioactive machine in bar maintenance correctly along with a juke.
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>>124962069
>>124962021
>>124962210
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1 and a half billion kPa.
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>>124962046
>almost caught by two prox bombs
>toxins one took a wrong turn
>medbay one arrived too late
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>>124962146
Hunh
That's pretty smart
>>
Based Dorf
Not so based AI
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>>124962345
>>124962338
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>>124962146
the only freedom I need
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>that round
Holy shit 10/10
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>>124962345
And here's the burner I used.
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>>124962416
>death blunts at the end of the round
>bartender asks what is in them
>i am completely honest
>bartender threatens to shoot me
you validhunting faggots, you can get spiritbreaker from exotic seeds.
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>>124962685
Hey, man. You drew a bad hand with that bout.
I wouldn't have killed you, though. I'd just not smoke it and wathc others smoke, instead.
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>>124962564
We need that one in morgue, it's better.
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>>124962345
how'd you make a rhumba can?
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>>124962685
>Give someone spiritbreaker
>Antag or non-antag
>WOW WHY ARE PEOPLE MAD AT ME, FUCKING VALIDHUNTERS
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>>124962918
>full disclosure with what is in them before they smoke them
>mad at me
???
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>>124962619
Mind explaining how that burner works?

zero actual atmos knowledge here.
>>
>>124962338
>>124962345
>>124962598
Next time i'll make an antimatter engine with like 150 parts and make it blow up at round end
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>>124963172
You gave me a death blunt
I wasn't even mad at you when you said you had spiritbreaker, but you're still went full retard and accused people of validhunting. Go whine about victimizing on tumblr on something, m8.
>>
>>124963380
1 core or 285829598285289592802805028 cores, it's still the same sized explosion.
>>
>>124963651
This. It'd still have killed him. That has nothing to do with antag or not.
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>>124963759
Then i'll make 150 1 core engines explode at once
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>>124963204
Raw plasma and oxygen come into first burner chamber, they are at a low temperature straight from the miners. They start burning and heat up, but the flow of raw unheated gases into the chamber cools them down and lowers their temperature.

That's why the already heated gases are pumped from the first chamber into the the next and so on, to burn but this time they are less cooled down from the gas input because it's already heated. Meaning they achieve much higher temperatures.

At the end it's scrubbed into a canister.
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>>124963927
it wouldn't kill you at all. i smoked one of them.
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I said I'd upload a webm. I made a horrible mistake.
In this, you can see the features of https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/pull/6954 . Please keep in mind that this is the first webm I've made and this is not ready for full server release for a few reasons.
Anyway, shown in this video:
>stove
>campfire (don't walk on it!)
>COMFY
>snow
>snowing (if you look closely, you can see it on every tile, but it's most noticeable on the house exterior.)
>some other shite, I can't remember at this point.

sorry if it's shit
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>>124962915
You meant he fuel can? The Engi-Vend in engineering dispenses it.
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>>124964319
HYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYPE
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>>124964001
Got pics of the whole thing? I'm confused on your pipe layout. and what ratio of plasma to oxygen were you using cause it looks like you were just straight piping it in.
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>>124964319
Does the campfire warm you up when near?

Also
>coat doesn't protect from cold
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>>124964736
No coat does for extended periods of time, we're not penguins Anon
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>>124964736
Yep! keep an eye on the temperature monitor when I'm standing beside the campfire.

nothing protects from the cold, that's something we need to code
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>>124964319
are there consequences to starting campfires indoors
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>>124965039
I believe he told me that there's a cap to how much a campfire can warm a room but then again I should probably just let him say.
In any case I'm just happy to see campfires because >m-muh sprites
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>>124965039
Not yet. Should there be?
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>>124964735
That's the whole thing. The cyan pipe goes from oxygen miners where there are 5 scrubbers pumping into it, the pinkish pipe is the same but with plasma. The purple pipe is a different contraption for plasma cooling unrelated to this burner.

The ratio is 1 oxygen for 2 plasma, regulated by the injectors in first burn chamber. One is set to 100 and other to 200. It's the standard burn mix just in large quantities.
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>>124965168
If surrounded by wood of course.
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>>124964319
Can campfire cook bodyparts? Please make it so. Could make it work like deep frying in kitchen.
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>>124965186
Wait, so those elbows are just scrubber-injectors under the igniter?
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>>124965591
Yep.
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>>124965397
We were talking about adding the ability to make it into a grill by adding a spit over the top of it.
Would be pretty neat.
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>>124962685
>you can get spiritbreaker from exotic seeds.
what the fuck no you can't
MINDbreaker is absolutely fucking nothing compared to SPIRITbreaker
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>>124964319
I like this
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>>124965681
Was it scrub or siphon that isn't capped at 9000 kpa?
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>>124964319
How about a plasma stove or adding the ability on this map for fire heat to radiate though windows?

I only work with plasma and plasma accessories.
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>>124966039
> a plasma stove
anon
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>>124964972
Nothing at all? Is this an entirely new cold?

>>124964815
I identify myself as Skua-kin, and I respond to being called NGKAA/KGAAAHN/they. The word "penguin" is rape. Check your avian privilege
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>>124966038
All scrubbers are set to scrub all gases.

Ideally you'd want to scrub only plasma and oxygen between the chambers, and filter out excess co2 while still keeping some in each chamber for heat retention, and at the end scrub out into canister pure co2 from last chamber.

I did that without tapping miners directly with just the basic pumps inside atmos itself, and it reached 29000 C, but nowhere near as much pressure since it was way less gas.
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>>124966340
Nothing other than hard-suits. Also, heat transfer from humans is WAY too high. - most people's body temperature on the station is about 20c (room temperature), which in real life is literally lethal.
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>>124966340
Squik
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>>124966453
You just have to have layer manifold heat exchangers to feed back into the previous stage and only have the whole thing trickle in so your waste cooling and venting can keep up.
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>>124967239
>tfw no Pen2 in spess
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>>124965860
You absolutely can get spiritbreaker from exotic seeds.

Ambrosia Cruciatus is a random exotic seed.
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>>124966868
Plasmamen suits and the funky green thing on the science outpost have cold resistance.
Maybe vox pressure suits too.
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>>124967239
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>>124967508
Oh, right.
I forgot that spiritbreaker has literal, honest-to-god super snowflake code in New() that hardcodes spiritbreaker into it, as opposed to how every single other fucking grown item in the game works.
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>>124966868
We don't have a way to handle the difference between internal body temp and external body temp. 36C would be a sweltering room temperature IRL.
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Can you still take clippings of plants in botany 3.0?
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Security has been pretty good these last few rounds
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>>124970640
Yes, not sure why you think you wouldn't be able to
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>>124970813
>"improvements" often break things.
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>>124970813
great.
That's the thing I would have been super pissed if it wasn't in.

and as to why I thought it might not be in,
>>124970939
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>>124970939
>>124970980
I autistically wrote every single change in the changelog, have fun with that
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>>124969939
The intention is to fix this problem, yep!
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>You are the engineer
>Decide to max out singlo today
>Ask atmos for supercooled plasma
>Get cold plasma, 70 kelvin, rip

>Whatever thats fine
>Set up 15 more collectors and fill them with tanks, inbetween having dinner and masturbating
>12 M E G A W A T T S
>Decide to out myself and build a grille connect to singlo and take off gloves
>Die instantly on connecting with grille
>find out why botony is fire
>He accidently a plasma making plant
7/10 round. funny but I was distracted
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>>124972221
>70 kelvin
Vomited in my mouth

You call that cold? That's cool at best.
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BREAKING NEWS: LOCAL HOS GOES NUCLEAR.
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>all those husks
>never ending brain surgery
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>>124962619
absolutely diabolical
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Jesus christ I think I just made MGSV Chapter 3, so I play as Big Boss, and this guy named Eli was on the server. he challenged me to a CQC fight, which I won. Anyway, I was making a secret surgery room with a doctor, and Eli demanded a rematch. I made a suicide pact with the doctor and made two nooses, and Eli burst in and started hitting me with a steel girder, and I hung myself. He cut me down and finished me up, some dude came in and murdered him, and the doctor decided to hang himself.

This is during.
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>>124972406
Its not like I enjoyed having shit plasma but I could not be assed to fix it
also the atmos tech apologized in deadchat so im cool
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Let's applaud hydroponics for making a 20000kpa/10000°C burn chamber. My atmos skills are far behind.
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>xenobiologist hears ling sounds
>opens a door and sees the roboticist alone
>assumes he's the ling
>chases him around trying to remove his head
>gets flushed by the other roboticist
>comes back and begins to attack the man who flushed him with a pickaxe
>RD fights him off all the way to the roid
>kills the RD on the roid
Stories of when valid hunting goes to far.
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>>124972813
botany is secretly a lot of fun, if you can avoid having 420 kush crewmates.

You just need a little deus for the dionas. that's it.
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>making a home next to the morgue
>Bob creepin all over the place constantly
>pretty sure he was a changeling
>start getting super paranoid about it
>he fucks with the doors to my home like twice
>keep thinking he's going to shock the airlock or something and wait for me to run into it
>see flickering lights and wonder if he's waiting for me outside the airlock
>round ends
>he was indeed a changeling
You sure know how to make a nigga fear for their life, Bob.
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>>124972813
It fucking murdered the fully suited atmos tech that went in to sort it out
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>>124972614

the aftermath
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Sprite change for extended proboscis when?
I need to be able to take a picture of changelings during.
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>>124972852
Funny, he got treated as the ling and was beheaded and incinerated because of it.
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>>124972925
> Mutations are now sub-divided into categories, roughly: bad, good, weird, and dangerous. Which category of mutation you'll get depends on the mutagen dosage: If you only use small amounts at a time, you'll mostly only get good things, but if you use more than 10u at a time, you can get potentially dangerous effects!

You know the first thing I do is grab a large bluespace beaker and dump 300 units of mutagen in plant, preferably kudzu.
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>>124972614
>>124973048
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>>124972852
Meanwhile, I was skulking in maint hoping for some chuckefuck to let his guard down long enough to absorb. Perhaps next time I should settle for raiding the morgue.

>>124972934
Your "home" was perfect for an ambush and was right next to a perfectly good source of genomes, but I'm a naturally cautious person when I get an antag roll and trying to robust you seemed to be too much of a risk. Too close to the main hall, and my parastings always seem to wear off at the worst possible time for me. Thanks for the tip for future rounds, though.
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>>124967413
That was my first successful multistage burner.
Reminder that recursive burn chambers are infinitely more productive than sequential burn chambers.
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>>124973282
Don't do that
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>>124967413
>only one direction windows
everytime i make a burn chamber like that it pops instantly
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>>124973604
If the window isn't on the same tile, it's unaffected by the pressure of the burn chamber. It's literally bug abusing.
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>>124973604
If the pressure is on the same turf as the glass the glass breaks. There the glass is on the outside, so no cracking.
You can use regular glass like this and it will still hold.
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>>124973793
>>124973861
It's not pressure that breaks it, it's the heat
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I love this stuff.
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>>124973920
That makes sense. But the concept still stands.
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>>124973920
Heat increases the pressure. The glass doesn't melt, it shatters.
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>>124972221
You are aware that there's a fucking TEG cooling loop right fricken there right?
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>>124973521
Kudzu will act differently if it has some mutations:

Heavily Carnivorous (strength 2) kudzu will occasionally grab you from one tile away, unless you're wearing magboots! You can still break free before anything bad happens, provided you have something sharp in hand.
Thorny Kudzu will cause brute damage per exposed limb if you walk through it unprotected. I admit, this will mince you alive if you try to walk through it naked, but then again, you should never be inside kudzu anyways.
Stinging Kudzu will sting you on touch as well, transferring reagents to your bloodstream.
Hematophage Kudzu sucks your blood when you're tangled up. ...It's really extremely tame compared to all the other things kudzu can do to you while tangled up.
Ligneous Kudzu is resistant to sharp things! Don't expect to cut it down with a hatchet.


Yes, I will do that.
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>shuttle called
>get on shuttle with other guy
>right before we get on, he is forced to kill another person
>he gives me a shotgun
>tells me to shoot his arm off so he can become Venom Snake
>accidentally target his chest
>kill him
Whoopsies
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>>124973436
>Reminder that recursive burn chambers are infinitely more productive than sequential burn chambers.
>implying
You'll end up mixing super hot gas with just hot gas, meaning your highest temperature will be much lower compared to sequential burners.

Sequential processing is the way to go with gases, same goes for cooling.
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>>124974113
You won't get those traits from dumping 250 mutagen, though.
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>>124974082
Okay, so? It's still the heat that causes it to break, you can make air chambers with infinite pressure without the same problem.
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>>124972852
More like tryhard newfags gone full retard. Just girder or rwall your door and use any of your multitude of murdershit to fuck him up. Worse case, plasma, slip strip the door, then short the APC so even if he rejuvs, the is and will forever be bacon
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>>124974136
I wish I had that screenshot of the MoMMI getting fucking over 21000K with recursive chambers. It's been done before.
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>>124974441
I just want to dump 300 units of mutagen and get the plant to fucking freak out.
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>>124973920
>>124973793
There's a certain level of common knowledge where you can't really call it bug abusing anymore and you just call it a mechanic of the game.

The coderbus is well aware of this. In fact, the TEG pre-built burn chamber literally only works because of this fact: it gets up enough to break glass. It's just that if it was changed now it would ruin the current atmos meta so no one is interested in changing it.
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>>124974943
That's how you plasmafludd Hydroponics
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>>124973604
>tfw autismosing I just use regular glass windows
>HoS ling shows up
>Oh hell naw
>Tap the burn chamber glass
>Atmosia is now a pinball machine
>Chuck the HoS ling into sphess
>tfw

>>124974136
I got 50,000k plasma with a 2.5 stage. Having heat exchangers heat up the fuel really makes life easy.

>>124975112
>Go onto bay
>I'll build a burn chamber and do some atmos plasma research!
>Windows break
>Walls start to melt
>Hugbox server has firelocks on external windows
>Forgot to toggle my magboots cause their slowdown and I didn't need them so I was slammed into walls until dead
>Fire is spreading inwards towards eng now
Made a lot of apologies that shift
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>>124975486
>I went on Goon once
>Janitor gets sec cameras
>Deadpool, yes, our deadpool, is the only engineer
>He sets up the TEG
>Something goes wrong and the fire gets loose
>Melts all the walls and pipes in engineering, breaches to space, their only engine room is now totally unusable
>Captain wires solars and no one ever recovers the corpse
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>>124975667
I feel bad for goon that their server is so shit, they can run their station using just the solars that are already wired, they just have to turn the smes and tracking on iirc.
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>>124975928
Would you believe they actually REMOVED Lord Singuloth?
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>>124978682
>REMOVING LORD SINGULOTH
WHY.
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>>124975132
Went on the test server to try it out.

Turns out dumping 200u of mutagen does diddly dicks.

However, by fucking around with a floral somatoray for 10 minutes. And a bit of xenobotany. I managed to create this.

Also, I got an error message. Carnivorous didn't apply on the kudzu.
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>>124964815
>mfw

You don't even get snow over there Celt. Come on.
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>>124974113
Is there Erotic kudzu as well?
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>>124979268
Also, it seems, at least from what I've seen so far. That the only "dangerous / negative" effects are increased toxicity, pest, weeds in the tray. Which can easily be solved by either clipping the seeds into another tray, or deconstructing the tray altogether.
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>>124913160
patreon is kill
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Anyone remember me?
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>>124981327
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_JFIS0ga5o
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>>124913160
I always told myself "I'll try out lifeweb later"

Now I regret that I missed it. Like, it was never going to be my main thing, but I wouldn't have minded playing around with it just for something fresh.
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>>124979268
>>124979739
Effects of mutagen are capped at 25u, I spoke to bauds personally about this
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>>124975667
>deadpool was the sole engineer
I was mining, never done goon engineering.

Literally dindu nuffin, anon.
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>>124982563
Capped to 25u but using more than 25u will result in multiple mutations
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>>124979268
Thanks for the bugreport, this is why testing is important
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>spawns alium larva
>they're all dead before anyone takes control of them
gg soca
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How do you robust changelings?
Are they stun-resistant?
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What a shitty round. What a disaster.

A borg lets a changeling go for some godforsaken reason, some fuck arrests me when i'm trying to get to the shuttle and avenge the pAI master's killers. What a shitshow.

Sorry for failing you, pAIs.
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>>124984559
Here are how the changelings were robusted last round:

One was beheaded
Another was shot on a conveyor belt then shot into space

and the third... dissapeared under mysterious circumstances.

I hope that helps you.
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>>124984672
I-I don't feel like that helped me very much
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>>124984672
to be fair the changeling that was beheaded was basically autistic and actually got caressed 50 times before the alien started hitting him
>>124984749
chloral or get stunned, kiddo
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>>124984749
remember: even shooting them into space might not kill them! They could still come back.
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>How to kill changelings
>Set up a chair in a conveyor loop full of glass shards
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>>124984559

They are not stun resistant unless they have horror form

Stun the changeling, laser it to death, then put handcuffs on it. Don't go near it until it's dead or unconscious because it can sting you to make you paralyzed or kill you.

Once it has handcuffs it's fucked, it can't get out of them except with Lesser Form. Take it to chapel and incinerate it, or gib it in the kitchen's backroom.

Or feed it to supermatter, or feed it to singulo, or destroy it with an explosive (welderbomb works - attach a timer/igniter to a weld fuel tank then start the timer and place the ling underneath it)
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>>124985693
>doing any of these
>not beheading it, replacing the head with a loyal crewman, and reviving it

you do not understand science.
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>>124985774
how are you planning to behead it without doing any of these
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>>124985882
knock it out with something, shove it in a locker, have borg support on hand for if it tries anything tricky.

The higher the health of the resultant body, the better.
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>>124984916
Changelings are the most autistic traitor type.

They don't talk, only kill and hivemind the ling club "ayy bro you got your objectives yet?"
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>>124984749
Changelings and vampires can basically come back from death unless you completely destroy the body or separate the brain from the body.

Kill it preferably from a distance, then like the other person mentioned process to incinerate/gib/bomb the corpse.

Some other options include removing the brain through surgery, removing the head through surgery, straight up beheading them with a sword or other strong, sharp object, or my favorite which is stripping them completely, then leaving them stranded in a space tile 2 tiles away from the station
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>>124984448
seriously aliens needs a better out of the way spawn
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My favorite game type is extended.

Come at me nerds.
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>starting to enjoy being an observer
it's like fantasy football or mario retardy or something, you pick a side and hope they win
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>>124987732
>fantasy football

ew
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>>124987732
>mario retardy
Oh god, I haven't watched that in FOREVER. Does anyone still even do it?
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>>124987732
It's why I love pAI. It's kind of like that but you can have an inch of effect on the current round.
>>124987391
You're a man of taste. Other acceptable answers would be blob, newcops and certain flavors of malf
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>>124986734
I kill the other lings
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What can a ling do if you throw it in a locker and weld it shut?
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>>124984559
Chloral then drop a table and decapitate or fuel tank to destroy before it regens in 120 seconds
Kite with ranged weapons then drop a table and decapitate or fuel tank to destroy before it regens in 120 seconds
Gangbang with stungloves and bottles then drop a table and decapitate or fuel tank to destroy before it regens in 120 seconds
Shoot with guns then drop a table and decapitate or fuel tank to destroy before it regens in 120 seconds
If it's a scrub, you can snag it with a satchel of chilled N2O bombs. Just don't do it when shiggy or whats his face are on cause N2O triggers their autism like you would not believe oh my gawwwwd.
Wear magboots, down hyperzine+synaptazine pills and clip it with explosion grenades, one-tank bombs, or intentionally low yield tank transfer bombs then double tap with a second
Use a high-yield canister bomb as a shield to get in range then blow it
3 satchels of properly made firebombs to slam jam it into walls as it roasts. Generally need an AI to get the scrubbers off so the ling has a harder time after it regenerates
Space pod
If it's a scrub put signallers on the airlock shock wires and snag it. alternatively, do y'know what then crush the punk ass bitch when they fail to recognize the trap
Blind it by activating a silver slime core, revive 4 grey slimes, then rabid them
Be a slime man in xenobio and work with open pens so they kill the antags that come to xenobio


Do NOT space them. They can regenerate numerous times which can allow them to make it back

Be aware that it is any combination of of rapidly healing damage, clearing "stuns", shucking cuffs by shifting into monkey form, after it parastung you then cut your head off, pop out of a vent, push you ove and fart, sting from 2 tiles away, have expanded chem storage faster chem regen and deathsting to allow it to incapacitate 2 crew and soon after it can parasting a third.
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>>124981062
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>>124988263
resist
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>>124982461
You didn't miss jack shit.because the playerbase was nox/traitor deathmatch tier cancer.

>>124988263
break out in 120 seconds. Dunno if they can death sting you through the locker but it'd be hilarious if they can
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>>124981062
Oh shit, he's right. I checked earlier today, Randy went to below 1000 a month, and now it's been removed entirely. Goddamn.

Good riddance though.
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>>124988285
>Space pod
Space pods kill stuff? I know you could just gib the fucker with a shuttle, but pods?
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>>124988263
If you don't move it it can resist out of it. Also, as soon as you unweld it it can run right out and fuck your shit up
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>>124988446
How do they break out, though? I've never played changeling
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>>124988297
donators are also gonna be shot by the KGB
rip
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>>124988596
Resist like handcuffs, it's not just a ling thing.
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>>124988285
>do y'know what
You... you want me to ERP with it?
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>>124988548
Space pod is a robust motherfucker son. Step up your game
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How acceptable is it for me, as a MoMMI, to make security a special garbage chute that leads to a chamber full of N20?
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>>124989079
Should be fine as long as you label it "Emergency Escape"
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>>124989079
long as you label it [N20 SHUTE] and realize nobody will ever use it
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How do you fuckheads manage to get the TEG running as the sole power source?
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>>124988573
>If you don't move it it can resist out of it.
Locker resist works even if someone's pulling the locker.
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>>124991024
Just follow the wiki that's it
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>>124990912
You've learned to operate the ride. Can't let it end, now.
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>>124991263
I want to be a part of the ride but I just got 'Mob Types can't throw this kind of item' or something.
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>>124991194
I did that like twice and ended up wasting my time and plasma. Is there something I'm missing or am I just mentally retarded?
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That was satisfying playing an asshole assistant who just does whatever he wants. No pussy footing around. Saw a ling and said "You know what? Fuck this." Hacked eva open and grabbed a hardsuit and a jetpack then hacked the armory open and grabbed a bunch of guns and just circled around the station putting slugs in lings. No bureaucracy. No bullshit. And he spawned with a sweet metal haircut and a tough sounding name.
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>>124991406
Could be the volume pump being turned to the wrong side
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>>124939890
Yha bud, they dunked ye for not doing your job.

For example, I used to work at a sub shop when I was young- if I refused to make a sandwich, I would kind of like not be able to work there anymore.

Logs or it didn't happen.

:^)

Also, I haven't removed anyone from the admin team that hasn't quit/not logged in in quite awhile.

Soooo... I'm not sure what you're talking about??
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>>124991024
>tfw thought the thumbnail was a penis peaking through someone's boxers
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>>124993127
Awoo~
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>>124993127
I thought it was a foot fucked up from foot binding
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>>124993127
You're turned on by a penis that tiny?
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>>124993645
I'm turned on by a lot of cute little penises, anon.
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>>124993645
Different person and it doesn't apply to 3D, but I lIke feminine dudes with small dicks in muh Mongolian flip book porn
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>>124993127
Woah I see it now. But I just saw a piggy the first time, probably a good sign.
>>
PANIC
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>>124994847
is serbian ded?
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POMF
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Ded serbian?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atKUCxXanXA
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SERB WHY
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Calling it now
The xenoarch giving himself and another dude a mask somehow bugged the game out
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>die to ornery slime
>spend 20 minutes dead because nobody's checking the monitors
>immediately brought to security, harassed by redtide
>finally make it back to xenobio
>serb dead
FUCK YOU TIMOTHY
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>>124994952
Lifeseeker is hella cool
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>>124995142
The captain ordered me to interrogate you. The second you wake up in interrogation you start screaming bloody murder and calling me an idiot. How were you expecting that to play out? Captain bursts in and vaporizes me as a wizlingvamp then high fives you?
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>>124995351
pardon me for panicking when unconscious, cuffed and being dragged away
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lethal turrets all throughout the station and an AI on robocop.

Yes or no?
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>>124995475
Really wasn't expecting you to go full "I NEED AN ADULT" mode. But I wouldn't have spent that extra time harassing you if you hadn't insulted me. It got under my skin that you found your courage only when you realized the threat of death was removed.
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>>124995957
And this is why nobody likes sec players, full powerfantasy
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>>124995047
>Xenoarch double agent
>Have to kill some assistant
>Pfft
>Who cares about objectives, time to have fun
>Find two artifacts real quick, one heals borgs, other makes people feel happy
>Not much, but got to work with what I got
>Going to have to really think outside the box for this one
>Get a couple happiest masks
>Put one on
>Click random for all my items since Xenoarch is RNG
>Esword, soap, PDA pinpointer, janitor wet floor mine, camera bugs, EMP grenades
>Time to get to work
>Bring happy artifact to station
>Everyone freaking out
>Tell them it makes them super happy while wearing the happiest mask
>They can feel the happiness
>They calm down
>Put happiest mask on the captain
>Drop wet floor mine
>Run away from it, artifact in tow
>Serb crash shortly after

Oh well. Better luck next time.
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>>124996659
>who cares about objectives

BANE HIM RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>124997803
if you care about about objectives you are a boring faggot
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>>124997803
>>124998328
>having antag enabled
fuck off with you server-enabled validhunting
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>>124997803
>banning people for not getting greenmemes

TG is thataway
>>
>>124998849
>muh /vg/ thread is only for VG meme
fuck off yourself
>>
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>>124998915

have fun on TG
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>>124998915
>meme meme memememe meme meme meme muh meme memes meme

Better get the heck over to vorestation buddy, we could use some fresh memeat.
>>
Which admin would you fug?
>>
>>124999404
All of them
>>
LIFEWEB DEAD RIP
>>
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soon
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>vox who speak broken english in their own language

Why not just play a russian human
>>
>>124999853
Good open source english code when?
>>
>>125000207
Never it died with randy bobandy
>>
>>125000081
If you don't use broken English and act nice for common and act like a stuck-up cunt in Vox you aren't playing right
>>
>>125000284
Wow, what a waste it had some interesting shit, like climbing, combat, and the AI code for monsters was really good
>>
>>125000081
>Speak broken English when speaking Common
>Speak really eloquently when speaking in my own language
>>
>>124998328
>>124998849
>this very thread literally had a bunch of faggots screaming that people should never say a thing and just rush their objectives and shuttle call to be LE EBIN RAWBUSTNEST

But you're right dah ebilll /tg/ boogermayns is the only server that cares about objectiveshitters.
>>
>>124986798
Spacing a vampire will perma-kill it, they take continual fire damage while outside the station and they don't have infinite resurrections.
>>
MERGE BOTANY3 ALREADY

FUCK
>>
>>124999404
none, because they're not my waifu
>>
>>124999404
Little Bro, but he's not an admin
but he's cute CUTE
>>
>Browsing github to look at new issues
>See this one https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/issues/6964
>That reply

I don't have a reaction face for this.
>>
>>124999962

is this ss13 hacks? how much $/month do i pay to get them
>>
HOW
DO YOU FIX
PERMA-CRYPTIOBIOLIN FROM WIZ
>>
>>125000436
This
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>>125001069
>>
>>125001148

DONT

LET PEOPLE WALK UP TO YOU

AND HARM SYRINGE YOU

GEMSUIT ALSO GOOD IDEA
>>
>>124995047
>>124996659
>Xenoarch crashes the server and doesn't go for his objectives
REMOVE XENOARCH remove xenoarch
>>
>>125001148
Although it has the same effects as loads of alcohol or cryptobiolin, subjugate does not actually add any chemicals to you bloodstream

Cure it with 1u Ethylredoxrazine. Completely wipes the effects.
>>
>>125001245
NO
I MEAN
WHEN A WIZ GIVES YOU HORSEHEAD AND FUCK KNOWS WHAT ELSE
AND YOU SPEND 5 FUCKING MINUTES TRYING TO GET YOURSELF TO AN OFFICE CHAIR
SO YOU CAN INVENT A METHOD OF PROPULSION BASED ON FIRE EXTINGUISHERS AND SAID OFFICE CHAIR
THEN YOU SPEND THE REST OF THE ROUND IN A SLOW AS FUCK WHEELCHAIR
BECAUSE YOU GO EVERYWHERE
>>125001328
I DID HAVE IT
MY WALKING WAS NOT FIXED
>>
>>125001372
He may have hit you again, it works through walls, and if he's out of your view you obviously can't hear the incantation. Yred uses this ALL the time and it is hellish levels of annoying.

I promise you that it DOES work, carry loads of 1u pills if wizzyman has subjugate.
>>
>>125001372
ALL CAPS!
>>
>>125001432
I was on a wheelchair
Doc gives me ethylredox
I step off wheelchair
I turn into a fucking truck with no steering wheel again
>>
This guys spelling and shit should get him permabanned alone. http://ss13.pomf.se/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=2220
>>
>>125001328
I stood in front of chemistry repeating:
ethylredoxrazine
ethylredoxrazine
ethylredoxrazine
ethylredoxrazine
At least 20 times and it never got made. Doctor just stared at me. He even walked over on the other side of the counter and started pulling me around as I yelled for ethylredoxrazine. Never got made. Instead I just held down one key and spiraled around for 10 minutes until I accidently made my way into chem and made it myself. Then put a bunch on the counters.
>>
who wants to play the new PoE league with your boy, Sawbones
>>
>>125001587
pillars of eternity?
>>
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>>125001483
CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
>>
>>125001665
DSFARGEG
>>
>>125001587
path of exile?
>>
>>125001587
>Sawbones
No thanks
>>
>>125001587
Portal of Evil?
>>
>>125001587
Poe of Edgar?
>>
>>125001587
baldur's gate?
>>
>>125001587
I haven't played PoE in forever, do you care if i end up sucking?

http://steamcommunity.com/id/CptPatch/
>>
>>125002216
Fag
>>
>>125001587
Pills of Ethylredoxrazine?
>>
>>125002370
pls
>>
>>125002216
Fuck off leon
>>
>>124997803
>beelining objectives in lowpop double agents for late night pseudo-extended

At least he was doing something during double agents instead of parapen+C4'ing their target 2 minutes in.

I could see that crazy bastard making everyone feel good with the artifact, then murdering them with his esword and happiest mask on to shade them and make the whole station truly H A P P Y from beginning to end.
>>
>wizard tries gimmick
>me and another vox are the only people in the entire crew that play along to his gimmick
>he gets valid'd while we give him his meal
>didn't even get to make him fat and then feed him mint
that was a load of horse shit
>>
>>125003780
I was just going to feed him a butt for dessert and laugh
>>
Can cargo order hardsuits?
>>
>>125003780
He died from the spiked food didn't he?
>>
>>125003780
>me and another vox
I meant to say me and a vox I AM NOT A BIRD

No, none of the food was spiked by the way
>>
>>125003879
He died through repeated application of a hatchet to the head
>>
>>125003884
the wizard player said in ooc at round end that it was spiked food from what I understand
>>
>>125003879
>>125003879
honestly I expected the feast to end with me eating fucked up spiked food and dying.

it was kinda really early though - I probably should've gotten the HoP/Captain more on board first.
>>
>>125003232
isn't leon a chick?
>>
>>125003975
We didn't spike any food so someone snuck it in
>>
>>125003780
lrn2take him to the back room
>>
>>125003984
did you like my insult over command comms?
I thought it was pretty brutal
>>
>page 10
New thread when?
>>
>>125004060
it was fucked up and made me want to die but I had to eat the food the vox and mechanic worked hard
>>
>>125004127
never. we're finally free of this blight
>>
>>125004127
when you code it
>>
>non stealth wizards
>non stealth antags in general
wew lads
>>
>>125003991
he's a trap, don't fall for it.
>>
>>125004208
Fuck your stealth.

Take your greentext and go away.
>>
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>>125004208
>>
>>125004428
Welcome to die
>>
>>125004208
ss13 is about having fun and making stories - not only for yourself about how you took half the station into maint and killed them but rather stories others will tell and would have enjoyed being part of
>>
>>125004526
>>>/bay/
>>
>>125004526

Socachaca please go to bay and take your faggotry with you
>>
>>125004526
My fun is topping my genome count for 4 hours and verdant script saying SUCCESS!
>>
>>>125005036
>>125005036
>125005036
>>
>>125004526
Just for this post, I'll start bombing the station more often.
>>
>>125004175
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else if(src.posts > 700)
░░░visible_message("<span class='danger'>Make a new thread soon!</span>")
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>>
>>125005178
Me.close ()
>>
What's the point of playing a roleplaying game if you're not going to roleplay?
>>
>>125006164
>SS13
>roleplaying game
>implying it's not an arcade racer
>>
>>124979268
Once i dumped quite a lot of mutagen into tomatoes.
Got plasmaflood.
>>
>>124990912
How to set up spell hotkeys?
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