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our threads consigned to the void edition

>Where do i buy x module/weapon for my ship?
High-tech systems have the best inventory, look there. The more population the better.

>What's this RES you guys talk about?
Resource Extraction site. spawns pirates and space cops that shoot each other. HAZRES in best left until you have a Vulture or better.

>Pilots Guide:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=34437&p=664610&viewfull=1#post664610

>Steam Group (post your commander info in the announcement so we can add you)
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dangerousgeneral

>Change HUD color:
http://www.pcgamer.com/how-to-change-the-colour-of-your-ships-hud-in-elite-dangerous/
http://arkku.com/elite/hud_editor/

>Markets Tools:
http://eddb.io/trade/loops
http://www.elitetradingtool.co.uk/

>Ship discounts (report these as you find them)
All systems exploited by Li Yong-Rui have a discount on ships and outfits for example:
NU TAURI - Parmitano Terminal
BD+28 413 - Gunn Station

>Test your ships before you buy:
http://www.edshipyard.com/
http://coriolis.io/

>I can't into these controls pls halp
[YouTube] Keyboard+Mouse is better for Elite: Dangerous (embed)

previously on /edg/: dads.
>>124506934
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>>124754753
ded
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>>124755709
epik le ded maymay lol!
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What kind of fuel scoop you reccomend for a long range asp for black markets.

I have a 2A and its crazy slow but i need that cargo space
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>>124757150
>what is better in linear progression?
Gee dunno, THE BEST?
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>>124757078
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>A8 Anaconda Power Plant costs as much as a Federal Corvette

God damn this game is just retarded.
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>>124757638
Class D masterrace
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>>124757774
Seems like the only viable option unless you hire slaves to grind for you 24/7.
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>>124757638
>Not just getting the best ship in the game, the vulture
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[muffled throat singing]
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>>124757638
That reminds, earlier today I was fucking around in one of CG CZs, and some guy asked how much a fully kitted FDL. I told him mine cost a little over 70 mil, with A rank power, shields, and distributor ( I don't have a Plasma Acc. yet, that puts the cost of a fully kitted FDL at 81+, but I forgot that at the time), guy calls me a liar saying that A rank power plants always cost more than the ship itself. I thought about correcting him, then I realized he was probably some forumdad that hadn't gotten past the Cobra yet, and proceeded to not give a fuck.

But it made me question the design decision of making the parts that go into a ship cost half as much or even more as the ship they actually go into.
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>>124758913
I had a Vulture. I got boring being a god and sold it.
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>>124759738
Honestly, it's kind of realistic depending on how you look at it. For example, a car's engine is worth more than the car, and modded out beast can cost more than the car's bluebook value.
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>>124759981
vulture sucks
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>mfw I made 70 million doing Robigo today
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http://coriolis.io/outfit/vulture/24A5A4A3D5A4D3C1d0u0e0003064a2b57662j.AwRhrSM9iA==.EwBhvNK1mI==?bn=Ebin
Rate this loadout.
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>>124760521
>Imperial Tipper
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>>124760336
I suppose so, but I feel like by the time most people have the money to fully kit out an Eagle or Sidewinder, they can move on to something better.
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>>124761487
I fully kitted an Eagle simple cause it's cheap to do and every now and then it's nice to pilot something that can actually turn.

But yeah normally better to keep moving up.
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God I fucking hate this general.
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>>124760521
>Clipperfaggotry
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>>124760451
Spotted the literal Empire pleb.
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>missile launcher will never be viable

I just want to build an Anaconda as a long-range missile boat.
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>>124760947

Literally no point to having a wake scanner. Anyone you'd be chasing into hyperspace has twice your jump range anyway.

Also missiles are useless and nobody will waste torpedoes on killing a vulture.

>>>124724243
>Well I want to explore and find some pretty sights but I can't afford any nice ships for exploration

The Hauler has a base hull mass of only 14T. This has interesting effects on its jump range if you strip it down to be as lightweight as possible.
Stock: http://coriolis.io/outfit/hauler/
Max jump: http://coriolis.io/outfit/hauler/02D2D2A1D1D1D2C-------.Iw19A===.IwBj4lRI
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Can someone post the ship progression chart again?
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>>124762943
but empire has buttslut waifu
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>mfw what should have been a base feature is now getting charged for 50 dollaroos
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Are medium plasma accelerators worth it over something like a cannon on small ships? Or should i pretty much never use them until the huge hardpoints?
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>>124765984

2 changes tho:

Federal Dropship is now only 14,314,210cr.

Combat Tier 2 now has Federal Assault Ship for 19,814,210cr.
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>>124766229

Medium PAs were given wrong damage values so they're absolute shit right this moment.

They're fixed in 1.5 and Horizons, at whcih point it comes down to your loadout and your ability to use them effectively. They do full damage to both hull and shields, and they do splash damage to internals which makes them amazing if you can handle the thermal and power management.
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>>124766102
JUST BUY IT
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>>124767101

Caveat: Cannons have a hidden bonus in that their damage penalty vs larger class hulls is calculated as if they were one class higher than they are.

eg: Small cannons do full damage to small & medium ships and 2/3 to large (rather than full, 2/3 and 1/3), while medium cannons do full damage to all ship classes.
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So, who else got their python at 40% off today?
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>>124765136
Same. I wish you could devote cargo space (or even swap out cargo racks) for missile storage.
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>>124768109
So what you are saying is that i should use a cannon on my imperial courier then, and depending on what i feel like i could use PAs next patch?
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>>124768501
why is it 40% off
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>>124769004

Whatever floats your boat. Multicannons are also fun module shredders.
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>just bought a Type 6

Now what?

>captcha Commercial Trucks
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>>124769409
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>>124769409
type 6 is great
type 7 was ok
type 9 is really shitty
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Post things you think would improve the game.

>random world boss encounters that drop fat loot
>fishing (when first person mode comes out)
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>>124770965
>in-game player groups
>asteroid bases for player groups
>ability to group wings together "boss" encounters
>thargoid mothership boss encounters / system defense
>actual depth and meaning
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Can the AFMU repair hull damage as well?
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>>124772167

No.

AFMU cannot repair hull, power plant or canopy.
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>>124772307
When horizons comes out the AFM will be able to repair the canopy, but not if it's completely shattered.
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>>124772307
How good is a Python at HAZ RES? I've outfitted one for trading (Everything D except for the FSD) and can't turn for shit.

I'd probably do really well with Turrets, right?
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>>124770965
>Ability to players to group together to form minor factions using the existing faction system
>Missions that function like CGs alloying player factions to expand to other stations/planets/systems, build stations, fight rivals, etc.
>Mission chains and more long distance missions, that require players to travel outside their "home" systems
>Better loot and salvage systems to make fighting enemies in USS worth more than the pittance you get from bounties
>The ability to permanently align with one of the major factions ( Empire, Federation, Alliance) with major bonuses in the chosen faction, and some maluses in the others, with out limiting the ability for players to travel or take some missions
>Some free paints and emblems that could be earned from CG, mission chains, or powerplay
>Some cosmetic things to stick on your ship, like fins or something.
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>>124772843

That's good news for explorers. Canopy integrity is currently the determining factor for explorer longevity.

>>124772892

You're asking me?

Also nothing does well with turrets.

Literally 1/4 normal damage output.
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JESUS CHRIST

I'M LOOKING THROUGH LAVINGY-DUVAL SPACE FOR RES SITES AND THERE ARE NONE ANYWHERE
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>>124773635
Go to the Jura system.

It's close to the capital, but the actual HAZ RES site is 2,000Ls away from the jump.
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>>124773783
Thanks!

Those +20% bounties are gonna be mine, all mine!
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What happens exactly when you evade interdiction beyond staying in supercruise? I notice the would-be interdictor simply disappears?
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>>124775774
They don't vanish, they drop out of supercruise. Any interdiction is always going to end up with at least one person kicked out of supercruise.
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>>124768501
Where?
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>>124775912
Do they get the emergency cooldown timer too? That's pretty alright
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>>124770143
What is wrong with Type 9? Best boxfu
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>>124776401
Are you acting like gay weeb again, son?
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>>124770143
Why isn't there a Type 8?
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>>124776258

Yes, it's exactly the same thing that happens if you do an emergency stop.

They're unceremoniously dumped back into real space spinning out of control and get the 40sec FSD cooldown.
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Alright, men! I need 100,000,000Cr in order to outfit my Python the way I want it.

I currently have no weapons,all D internals other than an A FSD, and 212 cargo space.

What's the best way to make money?
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>>124776802
We do not talk about the type 8
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>>124776940
Shipping biowaste from the Alliance to Torval

Go to Robigo Mines
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>>124776940
You're not saying that you bought the ship without having enough money left over to outfit it, right?
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>>124776940
You hire an illegal mexican migrant to trade grind for you 24/7.
Are you asking retarded questions to keep this thread afloat?
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>>124776940
Go get discounted parts, you'll only need 70-80m then.
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>>124777451
I got it as a Trading ship, but now I'm wanting to just fast-track my way to making it a combat/mining ship.
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>using Vulture
>High-Intensity Conflict Zone
>go solo against an Anaconda (stupid, I know, but I heard the Vulture kicked ass and haven't really pushed it before)
>the battle is going well; even my Vulture is too maneuverable for him
>at some point the pilot realized what was going on and stepped up his game
>my shields are down
>his are too
>take out his shield generator while flying headlong into a spray of lasers and kinetics
>his generator gets taken out
>book it the fuck out of there
>stay out of range while shields come back to full
>barely survive the final shootout

FUCK YEAH VULTURES
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>>124779812

PROTIP: Break the power plant and their whole ship shuts down.
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>>124779812

Should I give the Vulture another chance?
I had one but didnt have the money to upgrade the armor and hated the thing for being paper when the shields were down.
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>>124779812
Fascinating tale, CMDR!

+rep
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>>124780130
Really?

Is it any harder to break the PP than any other part of the ship?

>>124780219
wat
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>>124780250
>wat
You're a fucking newfag and your story sucks balls, that's what.
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>>124780336

what's wrong did you lose a fight today faggot
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>>124780208
Not with the upcoming FDL buff.
Also, FAS exists.
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>>124780662
Yes.

The fight to keep this thread ded. The endless war to keep people from posting. The eternal struggle to stifle posting in this thread so I can later claim that the thread is abandoned and the game is shit.
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>>124773635
Gende is really good with a high tech station next to 3 RES
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>>124780810
Hello Star Citizen!
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>>124780810
So it's literally one person that kept this thread dead for all this time?
And it's half alive now not because of a recent -70% sale and an influx of saleshitters?
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>>124780250
>Is it any harder to break the PP than any other part of the ship?

It's not noticeably tougher than the shield generator. None of the internal modules are.

It's more common to target the drives, but that's mostly because they're a huge target and a drifting ship is almost as helpless as one that's shut down.

>>124780219

This furfag.
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>>124780810

Vision will ensure that if they cant be arsed to work on the base mechanics in the game.
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It's a week after Horizons Beta release and initial excitement wore off completely.
Fucking hell, since the announce people here were saying that it will be a lousy gimmick and guess what, IT FUCKING IS!

>three types of planets with slight color variations
>tedious, non landing seamless process
>planets look okayish from orbit, on the surface they look like playdough
>surface is peppered with eyesore of a detail - color mismatched, poorly textured, sometimes floating rocks that pop in 50 meters in front of you
>no geysers/volcanism at all
>rendering issues out the ass, crazy shadows, faulty texture streaming, huge wall artefacts appearing out of nowhere
>lighting is shit, the only light source in the system is a brown dorf, but a planet is lit with a uniform WHITE light
>nothing interesting on the surface, it's either a space port, a rock, a wreck with some cargo
>planetside missions copy space missions (kill this-haul that)
>space-planet missions are not worth to bother since you'll be double visioned first by supercruise, second by orbital cruise and landing
>spaceports have PS2 era textures
>buggy is annoying and unfun to drive, you either drive slow and steady, or go fast and swivel out of control every two seconds
>super original SYNTHESIS™ system that is basically alchemy from Elder Scrolls games
>can make potions but can't store them or give them to your friend that is dying right before your eyes
>no fundamental gameplay issues were tackled in this update
>that's it
>60 bucks pls
VISION. VISION NEVER CHANGES.
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>>124783772
Hey now! They'll be adding volcanic activity several months from now!

:^)
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>>124783772
Yeah but you know what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly9fZc9q3_A&feature=youtu.be&t=85

Canyon Races! So fuck you and all the ass you sucked while typing that blog.
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>>124784538
Yeah, that vid fits the "wow effect wears off after a day" gimmick nature of this update.
And if you're so buttfrustrated by negative feedback I advise you to fuck off back to the safety of the gulag you came from, m8.
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>>124783772
You're trying too hard m8, you didn't even post gif, bad form. You're newfag level posting. Maybe you're too mad? Maybe you need to take a deep breath and squeeze one out and gets your wits about you so you're not posting on a level that embarrasses everyone else posting on /vg/ tonight.

Yeah, the game is shit, who gives a fuck.
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So for Robigo, I need a medium ship right? Guess it's time to sell my clipper.
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>>124785751
A D grade Asp with an A grade FSD can make the 500ly trip in 10 minutes if your load times don't suck. That includes time to stop and refuel.
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>>124786076
Well I just fired up Elite and my FPS is around 10 fps. Guess the latest stable AMD drivers fucked everything and not only in supercruise.
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>>124785620
Lol what the fuck is this stream of conciousness bullshit?
I take it you're peeved by something, lad?
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>>124786167
>Elite
>AMD
huehuehue
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People still play this game?

lol
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>>124786385
Hey, hows your money laundering scam going?
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>>124786385
Damn, that looks like actual fun.
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>>124786203
Good god, you don't even know how to read, are you that mad? Are you so blinded by rage that words no longer make sense? Stay mad faggot, it doesn't matter.
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>>124786529
It already has multicrew, for example. And not as a 60$ DLC.
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>>124786730
So why aren't you playing it right now? Oh right, it's not out yet.
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>>124757150
you don't need one 32 should be enough for 350ly or 18jumps to get to the turn in area and just refuel there
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>>124786843
>So why aren't you playing it right now?
That's exactly what I'm doing right now tho. We, CIS white males, can afford a second monitor.
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>>124760947
>27mil
>vulture
you fucked up son
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Got this game during sale and I have a question: how do I unfuck the yaw, it's too damn slow?
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>>124787359
You don't. Yaw is meant to be slower than the others.
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>>124783772

This game suffers from some of the issues that the first Mass Effect game had.
Remember when you'd land on planets and go to those copypasta'd buildings and shoot bad guys over and over?

Vision is making that mistake.
Hopefully they can be bothered to read some of the criticism on their forum and add some variety.
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>>124787447
Hmmm strange, how do I enable system chat and what good corps for newbies are there?
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>>124787704
lolololol
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>>124786385

At least we actually have a game to play.
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>>124787673
I just hope they won't instantly rush to make earthlike planets with dinosaurs or other blingy shit like that and work on gameplay instead. it's severely lacking atm imo desu.
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>>124787901
OH YES, REBEL GALAXY™ IS GOOD FUN INDEED
>tfw ain't no believer
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Thoughts on Horizons:

I would not have bought this if I wasn't already a retard that'd paid for the game + expansion pass back in beta.

But holy fuck, I just had fun doing donuts and exploring a city for the past 2 hours. Not worth the $40, but I'm impressed with what they were able to do with it, seeing as I was highly skeptical of FDev being able to fully hide the loadscreens/instance changes when flying down to moons/planetoids.

Now I'm just pissed we can't go into atmospheric planets and all the rest of that shit, but I guess they have to sell it to you plebs later.
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>>124786385
>game's been out for less than a year
>"OMG PEOPLE STILL PLAY THIS?"

Yes. Yes they do.
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>>124788626
>I was highly skeptical of FDev being able to fully hide the loadscreens/instance changes when flying down to moons/planetoids
But there is an obvious instance change when dropping out of orbital cruise. Same as when dropping from supercruise.
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40% off Python where
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Give me a system with RES or HRES and/or Conflict Zones, Anons.
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>>124789348
Yeah, I assumed there would be. If you thought there wouldn't be, you're willfully ignorant of the game's architecture.

I'm just surprised I wasn't waiting for 30 goddamn seconds for instances to change like used to happen when trying to drop out of SC. They must have finally upgraded the fuckin' servers in the 6 months since I've touched this piece of shit.
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>>124789545
TZ Arietis.
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>>124789602
Ah, I thought you were implying there's no transition between instances at all.
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>>124789641
I'm Empire, will flying into Federation Space warrant me to get aggro'd by Space Police?

>I've never gone into Federation space before, sorry.
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>>124789779
I just think they did pretty well with the kind of terrible system they had in place.

I guess I'll become more disillusioned once I realize that there's only small variation between the city/installation types and there's not many different layouts, but I assume that can be patched in later like they did with different types of station during the beta last year.

Here's to hoping they haven't abandoned the idea of adapting to criticism.

Also for some reason I don't have access to the Cobra Mk IV, don't have it anywhere in my stored ships display, at least, and can't find any info on where to find it. Going to assume the highly-competent keks at FDev haven't forgotten to give me my shit, but I know that's probably what happened.

It's been 2 days and no response to my ticket.. maybe it'll come.
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Damn, this actually looks pretty comfy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wLzphEDzNM
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>>124790163
No, but there's no need to fly that far, just check the nearby systems with ringed gas giants. That's where the RES spawn.
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>>124790286
>Cobra Mk IV
Not missing much desu.
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>>124790532
I know it's shit and slow as fuck, but that doesn't matter if I'm going to be turning it into my new "light explorer."

Guess the courier will have to do until then. Fucking thing's fun to fly anyway.
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>>124790286
It's not given away for free like the Viper variant will, you have to actually buy it. I'm not sure where from though, but I have seen someone flying it. It looks fat.
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>>124791162
Weird. I've seen the Viper IV at like every high-tech system near my "local" cluster, but haven't seen the Cobra anywhere yet.

Did a couple searches on the forums for stations that sell it, but the search tool is shit and instead I got every thread mentioning the Mk IV and I wasn't in the mood for sifting through all that shit.
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>>124790596
>I know it's shit and slow as fuck, but that doesn't matter if I'm going to be turning it into my new "light explorer."

Better off using the Mk III for that to be truly sincere, relative.
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>>124793154
But my Mk. III's 250ly away and I can't be fucked to go get it.

Even further than that on the main server and I'm in an FdL and can only just barely move around anyway. Fuck.
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Is the Horizons Beta supposed to be that announced holiday 2015 release, or is that still coming?
Not interested in Horizons until it's integrated into the full game.
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>>124780939
This.
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>>124793613
Beta's out right now. Game will probably release before Christmas.
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>>124790286
>>124790532
>>124793154
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>>124794547
kek
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/edg/elords,

Can the Robigo long haul be done with a cobra? I really want to rake in some cash. Smuggling and tagging pirates only delivers a few 100ks and I'm eager for more.
Also, best way to rake in some dosh with a cobra?
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>>124796350
>Can the Robigo long haul be done with a cobra?
Not as effectively as an Asp, but yes.
>Also, best way to rake in some dosh with a cobra?
Probably rare trading.
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If I had a completely stock Asp, what would be the best way to make cash to upgrade it?
Rare trading or slave trading or what?
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>>124796619
tagging bounties or the lave to fujin rare trade. You really just need to do these until you get 80cargo and 29ish jump range
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>>124796350
There was someone doing it in a Cobra when I was running it yesterday, you'll be fine. Just make sure to plot your refueling stops.
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>>124796350
you can but it's just really not inefficient since the smuggling missions are just rarer. You are better off doing bounties or getting cash to buy an asp and outfit by doing the rare trade run i just posted. By the time you have enough money you will most likely be at Merchant trade rank.
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>>124796687
Makes sense, it'll be a nice change from the single jump slave route I was running to afford this thing.
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>>124796978
missions aren't really worth it until you get merchant rank t b h because that;s when you start getting 1mil+ regular missions. It's just not worth spending 2hours for a bunch of mid tier paying missions. Basically the higher your rank the higher the pay
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>>124797162
I am Merchant though, and the highest mission reward I've ever seen that I could actually accept was 200k.
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>>124797230
rng is rng. When I got to fehu I was only getting 200k too but i went back to level my trade skill to merchant then 800k-1mil missions started showing up. I forgot to mention to keep doing the money donation missions when you can because I mission quality has something to do with rep....i think
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Salesbabby here.

How does rare trading work? I just buy rare items at one station and take it far, far away and sell it at another random station?

Or is there a mechanism to it?
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>>124797589
yeah, they're just special items that show up in the commodities market
there's optimized routes out there to pick up a bunch near each other, fly a while away, sell them and pick up a bunch more and fly back to the start
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>Turning in Robigo missions
>Most of them instantly makes me friendly with whatever faction runs the station
>It's all Alliance territory
>I'm an Imperial
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>>124797589
The selling price just goes up with the further you go from where you bought it. However you get diminishing returns after a certain distance, I believe somebody before said it was around 160ly.
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>>124796350
newfigue here, whats a robigo long haul?
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>>124798707
That's where you rake in the cash. Lurk moar.
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if almost all ships are named after snakes, what kind of snake is the ASP named after?
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>>124799928
only this manufacturer
http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Faulcon_DeLacy
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>>124799928
The Asp.
Usually refers to the Egyptian Cobra these days.
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>>124800132
>http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Faulcon_DeLacy

Fer-de-lance is a snake too, and that was designed by Zorgon Peterson.
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>>124800132
Diamondbacks are snakes too and they are by Lakon.
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>>124801154
>Fer-de-lance
huh, I always thought they just meant that as fancy foreign Spearhead because it kinda looks like one
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What are some higher level ships to avoid if you don't want to be a shitter?
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>>124802561
Fer the lance means lance tip in French, but is also used to refer to a certain species of snake in central and south america.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bothrops_asper
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JESUS CHRIST I JUST WANT TO REACH ELITE I CAN'T TAKE MUCH MORE LONG RANGE SMUGGLING HELP ME
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I bought it in the sale, and I have an adder at the moment.

How do I begin to not suck at dogfighting? Even in the blue zone of the throttle I can never turn around to face my opponents.
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>>124803075
By not using the Adder.
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>>124803075
Well for starters you don't use a fucking Adder for combat.
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>>124803426
>>124803405
But the wiki says it is one of the most maneuverable ships.
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>>124803075
>>124803462
upgrade it, don't use stock
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>>124803594
And by upgrading he meant was get an Eagle or a Viper that actually do combat well.
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>>124803075
The basic thing is to pitch and roll, don't just yaw because yawing is slow. The second thing is the further you are from the enemy the more distance they have to cover to move one degree of arc from your perspective. Also try using the translational thrusters in the opposite direction you are turning.
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What is a good multirole cobra build?
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>>124804213
>multirole
Unless you wanna try poor man's piracy there is no need or point to equip multirole as you will only gimp yourself from doing anything well. There is no multirole.
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>>124787704
This game isn't for you MMOfag.
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The little Imperial Fighter is a bitch to go up against because it's so hard to hit and agile, but it dies like a gnat against any real firepower. You only need to hit it 2-4 times for it to go down.

It's especially hilarious if you have seeker missiles.
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>>124804648
>tfw dual plasma accelerators fired on unsuspecting foes
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>Join ED facebook group
>See hordes of dads and elderly men profess their love over the game and how it saved their lives
>See dads complain about the toxicity of Open Play and how their sideys and cobras get blown out of the sky

Oh man, I am so tempted to just take a fighter on the side and kit it out as a Dadkiller. I mean, jesus, go play Microsoft Flight Simulator if want to avoid all risks. All this bawwwing just makes my bloodlust rise.
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>>124804851
The fire rises
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h7UPVOz6MU
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>interdict outlaw
>destroy him before the FSD cooldown even finishes

Glorious.
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>"Don't panic! I've been sent to find you!"
How would the knowledge that some organization somewhere is sending specialists after me inspire me not to panic?
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>>124805680
He's not a specialist, he's an idiot who wants you to do a dumb quest and you should blow his ship to pieces.
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>>124806584
Would I get fined for doing so?
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hump
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>>124804851
I never understood why people complain so much about getting pvp'd in open play, it's just the risk that comes with it.
I don't like pvp myself but it's not like it's hard to avoid, they literally put in a mode so you can just never have to deal with it.
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>>124809723
Exactly.
To my opinion they should just ditch Solo just to antagonise all the forumdads.
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>>124809861
ED belongs to them now, that's why they're pricing the cut content so high.
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Which one is more fun? Fighting or trading/smuggling?
vulture or asp?
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>>124810587
Fighting.
Smuggling can be fun if you do piracy.
Trading sucks dick.
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>>124810587
Trading is for dads when it comes to Fun™
Better blow said dads out of the sky. Shame the galaxy is so big and most encounters are NPC's. I would love some roight 'n proppa dadtrolling.
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Not getting any good missions in rohigo, was this just a ruse?
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>>124812026
What trader rank do you have?
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>>124812172
Broker.
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>tfw all this cool battle damage will be completely gone next time I fly to a station
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Newfriend here.
Am trying to rank up in empire for the Imperial Courier, but I haven't really done missions before and every mission I do for Empire allied factions takes like 30 minutes on average.
This is so fucking slow and I havent seen a single navy mission yet, is there a better way to be farming ranks? Usually there isn't even any empire allied missions to accept at all in the 3 empire controlled systems ive been farming.
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>>124814130
>This is so fucking slow
Welcome to the grind.
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>>124814130
Do the Hip 105408 and Diabingo mission loop
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>>124814130
I've gone up a couple of ranks (to the one above the courier requirement, can't remember what they're called) in a few days, mostly just doing missions in between regular trading.
I've been running around a bunch of different systems getting a bunch of imperial factions to like me a little bit rather than just sitting at a single cluster of systems and grinding them out though.
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>>124814521
I thought you had to do combat missions to get this secret "skill points", how did you rank up that fast with a trader ship? Did you not do combat missions?

>>124814353
Thanks will check that out
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>>124814353
Do you mean trading between these? I cant seem to find anything about this mission loop online.
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>>124814784
what?
my combat rank is completely harmless because I've literally only killed a single ship the entire time I've been playing and I've never done a combat mission. I've just been trading and I've gotten that rank up to Merchant so I get some more trading missions to do, but as far as I'm aware just regular commodities trucking also helps you get better rep with the minor imperial factions as long as it's between imperial stations. whenever I've gotten the rank advancement missions appearing there always seems to be multiple, including one to take some goods somewhere or find some commodity and bring it back, and I just pick them instead of any of the combat related ones.
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ITS HAPPENING

which station should I take this to, senpai?
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>>124814130
If you've got dosh, do charity missions for empire factions.
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>>124814130
refresh stations for charity missions, donate and keep doing so until the promotion appears
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>>124815047
Yes, something like that
>go to hip 105408
>get any mission related to diabingo
>go to diabingo
>get any mission related to hip105408

Both are empire so it should increase your rep, also they sometimes ask for charity.
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>>124815220
I see, I saw someone earlier saying that you had to do combat related shit to get this hidden stat called "skill points" or whatever, in order to rank up in the naval progression. Theres so much misleading info on the web tho, so I dunno. I dont think trading missions are worth picking up for me anyways since Im "mostly penniless", guess Ill keep doing combat missions or maybe increase my combat rank a bit to take better ones.

>>124815338
>>124815723
Are these not super rare? Ive been to these 3 empire controlled stations like 10 times each and I never saw charity for an empire allied faction, only a few for a federation faction.

>>124815803
Oh yeah, when both the giver and taker of missions are empire allied I guess thats a lot more efficient. Ill see if its close enough or I might just find 2 or more neighboring empire systems elsewhere, thanks.
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>>124815915
yeah, not saying you should change or anything, but as far as I'm aware it's more just grinding some rep with the different minor factions which can be done in various ways
and also if you open up the galaxy map, there should be somewhere in there where you can display what area of inhabited space is empire controlled, and if you make your way into there you can basically just fly around doing helpful stuff anywhere you like and you'll probably be gaining rep, which is how I've been doing it. you don't have to fly right to the middle or anything, but just head in that direction and you should be fine.
and yeah you should start seeing charity missions, which should be done whenever you can
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>>124805015
I too enjoy destroying eagles
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40% off python where
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>>124815915
1.5/Horizons introduces a progress bar for navy rank so it stops being guesswork.

Combat is worth more for navy progress but it's certainly not the only way.
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>>124816472

Ruse Orbital in KY Duplicity.
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>>124815275
Wrong artifact, dipshit. You need the unknown one.
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>>124815915
Charity missions depend on the local economy and stability. A system where all factions are in economic bust, civil war and the station is falling apart could have nothing but charity missions.
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>>124816842
They only have Conda and Corvette for that discount, no sign of python.
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>>124793434
Loved the fdl, but it has so many downsides compared to its upsides.

It just needs a bit more jumprange like 5 ly.
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>>124817364
Too bad. Here's a PP upgrade that reduces your range another 2LY.
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>>124816270
OK sounds fair enough, thanks for the help, feel a bit more encouraged now.

>>124816578
Thank god, I will hopefull already have the courier before then but thats gonna help farming the clipper.

>>124817095
Stuff like that is really good to know, thanks. I wish this game had a giant guide book.
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>>124817772
>imperial ships

Are you sure about that?
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Is CQC rewarding?
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>>124817063
aw man, and I just made it to Braham Station
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>>124817958
I was told the imperial courier was a really good bounty hunter for the money, and I like the faction, so why not.
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>>124818571
>I like the faction
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>>124818971
Federation seems a lot more popular to me, and I sure as heck won't go with the hippies. Always preffered alien aesthetic ships over terrans classic floating metal boxes anyway.
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>>124819319
Erm.. are you sure the Federation seems more popular?
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>>124818571
Don't get me wrong I like gutamaya stuff too. But those ships are not the best sadly. Just think about the clipper struggling to have 400mj of shields and the usual terrible hard point placement
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I'm still not sure about horizons... they just haven't really explained what theres to do on planets and why you'd want to do them.

Landing and fighting on planets is cool and all but what's the point if they're just as empty as space?
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>>124819612
Fucking nothing. Shouldn't come as a surprise.
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>>124754753
Release date for Horizons is Dec. 15th

Rejoice Dads
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So is base building in Horizons going to work how station building works now?
Or do we do it ourselves?
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>>124819462
Well Im just going with the courier initially I think, to do some bounty hunting and add some variety to my wing which consists of 3 almost identical ships atm, after that I'm not sure. Isn't the courier decent though? Saw it in several lists of "best combat ships" being praised for its shields or something.

>>124819435
Anime worshipping faction run by slaves = normie faction? Dunno if I see your point
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>>124819947
The whole of Reddit supports Anime Duval is what I meant.
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>>124818571
The courier is ludicrous. 200MJ base shields on something as small as an eagle and the boost acceleration is so high it should be fatal to the pilot.
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>>124820041
If the reason for that is because of the imperial waifu princess I'd imagine its a lot more popular in this hole though. I think you misjudge the what the average person on this website thinks of anime.
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>>124820180
Good to hear, I like shields.
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>>124820314
We are far more /edg/y. At least used to be.
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>>124820791
Is that an albino nigger from space.
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>>124821930
Precisely that
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So should I pre-order Horrizon now?
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>>124804851
Wow edgy.

Sounds fun as fuck
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>>124820041
God I hate that bitch, her fucking platform is trash too. She talks about slavery as if it was southern plantation type slavery when that's illegal in the empire already. Empire is on some Rome/Code of Hammurabi type shit with debt clearing slavery where they have actual rights. Literally nothing wrong with that. Basically fucking maids/butlers with shittier pay
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>>124822640
OF COURSE, GOY
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>>124820041
Yeah, naw.

Waifufag subreddit is a complete shithole of sweaty neckbeards.

Check ALD's subreddit, fuckers have everything planned out, strategized, segregated and organized.

They have fucking spreadsheets for powerplay, which show you what to do to support power at first glance. It's like playing in a well organized EVE corp, only without commiting your life to it.
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>>124822054
>6 out of 10 are male
how the fuck is that a problem, how is that a bad ratio, thats more female politicans than you'd find irl and they're leaders of entire factions
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>>124823059
To be fair, there's more than enough places and people in the Empire that abuse the slavery systems, hence the occasional rebellions that happen.
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>>124823214
Because progressives are stupid lot that think that because women make up 50% of the population they should also make up 50% of leadership positions regardless of other qualifications.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-r4pPrHarw

anyone around to drive on planets together right now ?
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whats better?

huge cannon or huge plasma accelerator?
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>>124804932

How does the bounty system work? Let's say I kill a player in Kremainn and Federation space; am I then wanted by the entire Federation or just within the Kremainn system? Can I hop on over to a neighbouring system and pay my bounty off there?

I want to try Space IRA'ing when I get enough money for a Vulture, but I don't want to get my shit pushed in by space cops.
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>>124826241
Huge monkey trouble
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>>124826241
I would like to know this as well.
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>>124827169
You will only be wanted by the security forces of that system.
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>>124826241
both are about the same accuracy wise.

imo go with cannon because its low maintenance and it won't overheat your ship in 2 shots like the plasma will while doing about as much damage.
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Fuck I hate the bounds/bh turn-in system.

You just fly around in CZ or RES having fun, shooting stuff, and then suddenly some fucker mass locks you and wrecks you and you lose everything you earned for an hour or whatever, plus insurance.

Yeah, yeah, whatever, hardcore gaming, my fault. Doesn't make it any less idiotic that you can't radio-in the kills. Especially in CZ, where your faction is right fucking there to confirm them.
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>>124829639
Blame the space bureaucracy.
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>Corvette requires Rear Admiral

JUST
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>>124830050
Glory to the grind
Praise the Vision™
May your progression be fulfilling
getting the Corvette fucking never
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>>124830050
>Rear Admiral
I can't think of anything else butbutts when I hear this.
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>>124831450
I somehow managed to do spoilers other way around holy shit
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>>124831280
I nearly died of boredom while getting Post Commander, and I thought it would be enough. Fuck braben and his no-fun game
I have preordered horizons
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>>124832006
I on the other hand am merely a Warrant Officer. Image is me when I have finally reached Rear Admiral.

I have preordered Horizons as well
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>>124832306
>Rear Admiral

GOD DAMN IT

I'm a fucking recruit.
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>>124832306
You're what's wrong with this industry
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>>124832623
I would've bought it anyway as this is pretty much the only game I play as it is closest to my dreams at the moment. Preordering got it cheaper for me.
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>>124830050
Well I'll probably never own one considering I've been stuck at ensign forever.
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>>124833762
don't worry about it

the corvette is shit anyway
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>>124832596
I don't even know how to rank up.

I guess I'll grab an exploration ship with a fuel scoop and automated repair and leave the civilized bubble forever, to take on the galaxy to explore vast nothingness of space, as far away as I can, before I die.
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>>124834059
That's the most mind-boggling thing for me. It's worse than the Anaconda in several aspects, but it costs more AND it requires an absurdly high rank to purchase. What. The. Fuck brabo
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>>124834059
Yeah I figured as much, FDev seems to think that an extra huge hardspoint, which has shit gun choices, is worth shorting the Corvette on 2 large hard points vs the Anaconda, and then the Cutter get 2 large and 4 medium and has better shields, and is faster and more maneuverable than the other two, which means it will chew the other two up for breakfast. Gee I wonder which faction FDev likes the most.
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>>124835058
>>124835262
how does the cutter compare to the anaconda anyway?
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>>124835262
Cutter is comparable to T9 in maneverability. It's only strength is speed.
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>>124835512
more cargo, faster, less shields, less maneuverability, comparable firepower
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is rare trading with a cobra worth it or should i just bounty hunt with it until i get an ASP
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>>124836778
Trading will always be quicker than combat at generating money per hour.
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Is there a better Bounty Hunting ship than an FDL at this time?
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>>124835262
The Cutter's maneuverability is utter dogshit. The rest of it is ok.
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>>124823059
Only reason I joined her was to get Prismatics for my Annie then I left. Hit it and quit it.
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>>124837492
Assault ship is the best.
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>>124830050
>haha no it can't be
>mfw it's real
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Anyone knows the rank for Cutter?
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>>124838480
Same as Corvette but Empire equivalent.
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>>124838480
Duke
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So, let me get this straight.

I can fly over to Torval's control systems, pick up slaves, and then sell them in Delane's control systems for a shit load of cash?
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>>124838552
Just checked it's Duke.
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>>124838636
yes
slave trading is lodsa dosh
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>>124838789
Just did a one-way trade from LTT 8517 to NGBATO.

In my Python, with all 268 tons of cargo being Imperial Slaves, I made 2.5K profit per ton.

Not that great, honestly.
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>>124839802
Some of them are better than others, I was doing one earlier that was a bit over 3k per ton, which for my broke ass and dodgy old type-6 was pretty good
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If I'm going to start the Navy Rank grind, what kinda ship should I have?
I'm guessing a combat ship.
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>>124840040
Python will do fine.
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>>124839962
Well, for me, that's still a profit of over 600,000.

It's not terrible, but I have done better just trading slaves in ALD space.
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Is python still on sale?
How much?
Where?
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>>124759267
underrated post
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Should I just get a T9 and grind out Elite on Trade so I never have to grind for money again, or am I fooling myself in thinking a billion credits will be enough?
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>>124841680
You get an Anaconda to grind out trading. 1 billion will be enough for a fully decked out anaconda. If you want a fully decked out corvette or cutter too then you better get comfy in your space trucking chair.
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This is not the right choice...


right?
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>>124843827
5 plasma is fun
3 beam 2 whatever is sensible
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>>124759267
[yells externally]
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>>124759267
I don't understand...
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So Horizons crafting system is going to make me explore a lot more.
Is Asp still the best until you can afford a Conda?
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>>124844669
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUCzFFrMM9I
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>>124849620
see >>124844669
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Reminder that the beam laser is shit.
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>>124849826
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I'm currently mining with two size 2 lasers and a size 5 collector limpet controller (3 collectors.)

Will I mine faster than they collect? Am I losing ore here?
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>>124850134
That's cool and all, but isn't the beam a burst damage weapon?

Pulse is more consistent and efficient, yes, but beam has more raw DPS, which basically means that pulse wins hands down if you have 100% time on-target, but the less time on-on-target you have, the better beam is?

So, essentially, pulse is better for taking down larger, slower ships which you can track easily, and beam is a better choise to target more agile ships than yours.
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post sphess
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>thought I read that Horizons was 15$ for owners of Dangerous
>It's actually just 15$ off
>have to pay 45$ to get this patch
christ, FD
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>>124851426
But it's not a patch, it's a season pass, goy

You will get everything that gets released after it, for absolutely free!

untill the next season
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>>124850815
That's true, but unless your ship has a lot of kinetic weapons or is clumsy, you should burn through that energy before the enemy is dead, especially if you're using gimbals. A beam comes in handy when you have something to take over once the shield is down.
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>>124851426
Just get it already, goy.
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>>124851426
Just wait until season 3 and another $45.
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Why does everyone recommend noobs go to RES sites to bounty hunt? I just spent over an hour drifting around praying that a wanted ship will start a fight that they can't handle, and it never happened. Even against Deadly internal service agents, they just don't seem to lose. The mining ships that get attacked don't even fight back, they just try to run and die every single time, so it's not like I can help them out and win by numbers.
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>>124853348
what happend here
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>>124853083
You're supposed to kill the wanted ship anon.
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>>124854827
As soon as I attack it, it stops what it's doing and wrecks my shit. The last couple threads, people were saying you're supposed to wait until the police are about to kill it and attack it within 15 seconds of it dying.
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>>124854968
you're not in a HAZARDOUS RES aren't you?
That's what you should do. Just wait for a battle to start and tag the ship with the least armor left. shoot your lazors at it till it goes down. Then just stay with the cops.
Get a kill warrant scanner as well.
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Where were you when the pirates showed up?
I was on a landing pad at an outpost.

phone rings
hello this is pirate
gib cargo
no
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>>124857518
>mfw noone ever talked to me even when i saw other players
i just wanted to kill someone in self defense
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>>124857518
>Get interdicted by another player
>Gib cargo
>No cargo scanner? Okay boss!
>Shit out an endless stream of limpit mines
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Those Jew boys at ftroop really need to put mine droppers on utility slots.

Or make them actually do damage to other ships...fucking ftroop
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>>124851282
I fucking love astroids fields in this game. Just silent run in an anaconda and do full speed ramming little ships.
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>>124858963
>ftroop
>Hey lets make mines shoot out the FRONT of your ship
>What can possibly go wrong?
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Do I have to pledge to Arissa Lavigny-Duval to get her bonus to bounty payouts or can I just go fly around in her space and shoot shit for more money?
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>>124860096
>>124858963
Would be nice if some of the shitter weapons got some love. Actually it would be nice if the warhead weapons were on separate hardpoints like in the Frontier games. That way taking missiles wouldn't gimp your regular damage and missiles wouldn't need to be balanced directly against guns.
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It would be nice if they could do anything at all. Just give missiles their pre-nerf stats back, but limit ships to only 1 missile/torpedo launcher. That way, they can still do damage, but you have to really decide where you want to use them, and it stops people from just spamming them.
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>>124858726

>get interdicted by another player
>no cargo scanner
>"I have no cargo, scan if you dont believe me"
>"I dont have a scanner"
>"Are you fucking serious you fag"
>boost away
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Seems like theres literally no use for having kinetic weapons on a Vulture. Class 3 lasers do about as much damage as a Cannon without having to pay for ammo or missing your shots.

>>124860201
No idea. Wish I knew so I could fly out from Zach-space. Most of my money is from shooting NPCs
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>>124856742
Yeah that's what I've been doing. Looks like I was just getting unlucky. I found one that actually had a fair amount of decent cops and got a few million
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>Servers keep disconnecting
welp
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>>124860201
>>124864152
Yes you have to be pledged to her and rank 2 for 20/30/40/50% bonuses and rank 5 for 100% bonus.
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So where are the ships?
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>>124865001

You can help it along by instigating with the pirates and then running to the cops, but that can still end with your shit getting pushed in.
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Saw this on Steam. Is it fun, should I buy it?
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>>124850807

I ran with two med mining lasers and C3+C3+C1 collectors (5 limpets total) and that was enough to hoover up all the frags without any decaying.

I'd C1 prospector to get maximum yield, get up close to the roid and mine until depleted. A couple minutes later the collectors have finished sweeping up the fragments.
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>>124871083
People actually run prospectors? Why not just shoot the roid and look at that pops out?
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>>124869747

Are you running E-grade sensors?
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>>124871627

Prospectors double the yield of the asteroid they're attached to. ie: twice as many frags before depleted.
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Did anyone see the trailer? It makes Horizons look good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX_E6jCGusM
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>>124871794
Well shit. Fucking wiki.
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Dual Pulse, Dual Burst, or Dual Beam on a vulture?
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>>124854539
Game bugged. But it would be nice to see crashed stations.

>>124851426
Think of it as paying yearly for an MMO instead of monthly.
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>>124872451
It really should be free or at least a lot cheaper, there's not enough content to justify it being $45.
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>>124872501
>Think of it as paying yearly for an MMO instead of monthly.
Except that would require ED to actually have the features of a MMO, like player clans/guilds/groups, not punishing players for grouping, group content, endgame, etc., etc.
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>>124872361
pulse
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>>124872168
>It makes Horizons look good.

You lied to me. That doesn't good at all.
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>>124872501
>MMO

E:D is not an MMO, get the fuck out.
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>>124872168
>Inception BWWAAHH intensifies
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>>124872839
I don't get why they hate those things so much.
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Why is there an unrepentant shill in this thread?
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>>124872501
No braben you fucking kike, I'm not buying your unfinished game twice.

It's still fucking unfinished you retard. Fucking hell, would you hire the intern already, the kids probly tired of doing all your work, all his work and shitposting on the forums as pecisk
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>>124873105
Because they made a single player game, then made it online only and tried to sell it as an MMO to justify it. Which is sad as the game would make a pretty decent MMO, if they would just actually treat it like one.
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>>124873320
Okay thanks.
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>>124851861
>But it's not a patch, it's a season pass, goy
>You will get everything that gets released after it, for absolutely free!
I love how FDev keeps talking about seasons. What did the first season get us?

1.1 Community Goals: Wow it's fucking nothing.
1.2 Wings: Basic functionality should have been in the initial release.
1.3 Powerplay: LOL
1.4 CQC: Why?
1.5 Ships: Probably the best part.

Maybe we will get Galactic Rally Championship (GRC) for Horizons. A separate racing mode where you can use power ups like triple red fire rockets and the much-feared blue EMP missile, which homes straight in on the leader!
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>>124873713
>Maybe we will get Galactic Rally Championship (GRC) for Horizons.
Given what they did with CQC, I would not be surprised. I'm still hoping beyond hope that they will realize their mistake and fold CQC into the regular game universe some how.
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>>124873713
>
Maybe we will get Galactic Rally Championship (GRC) for Horizons. A separate racing mode where you can use power ups like triple red fire rockets and the much-feared blue EMP missile, which homes straight in on the leader!
Not gonna lie, that sounds way more fun than CQC or this powerplay garbage.
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>>124873954
> I'm still hoping beyond hope that they will realize their mistake and fold CQC into the regular game universe some how.

All they fucking had to do was make it an option you can select at certain stations, which then magically whisks you away to the arena instance.

I don't understand at all why they made it its own separate game mode.
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>>124874130
>All they fucking had to do was make it an option you can select at certain stations, which then magically whisks you away to the arena instance.
Even worse idea. I don't think i've ever run into another player in Open mode. No way in hell i'll be sitting in a statue queue because theres nobody near me within 200Ly
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>>124874130
Maybe, they were too retarded to do it, though my theory (supported by FDevs past action) is that they hate the idea that players can both have fun and make money, so they don't want people spending all their time playing CQC to make cash, since CQC is actually fun.

>>124874289
I think anon meant that it would work the same as it does now, except it would be accessible from in game, at the station menu, and hopefully make some money for you character at the same time.
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>>124873713
Some sort of flying contest would be fun....one more thing to do. Hell maybe have an outlaw version where ships can take pot shots.

I know there's rally's that some of the playerbase hold....but having obstacles would be Interesting.
This game needs fallout mods, we know the shit stain ftroop ain't gonna do it. Too busy trying to guzzle cocks and rollercoaster money
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>>124874289
Did I say they should limit it by distance?

No, just have it work the same fucking way it does now, but accessible from the main game.
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>>124873954
>fly to specific systems with CQC
>dock in the CQC Championship Stadium spaceport to switch to your loaner CQC ship and play
sure it's just an in-universe way to load the CQC menu, but it would be damn nice
encourages players to hang around in that system too

I just hate how much fucking potential this game has but how little of it is being utilized
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did the vision say anything about recruitable wings at all? It would really help traders out
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>>124874289
>Even worse idea. I don't think i've ever run into another player in Open mode. No way in hell i'll be sitting in a statue queue because theres nobody near me within 200Ly
I think he meant it would just take you into the regular CQC screens, the only change is making them accessible from regular play. You could just pretend the other people in the station are logging into the same CQC match.
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>>124869747
>101 km
I think i found your problem.
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>>124874675
I think that as far as FDev is concerned, wings have been fully implemented to their satisfaction, despite the fact that theirs no way for players to transfer funds to one another, and the grouping up is actively punished by the fact that all payouts are split.
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Holy shit the Vulture is amazing. I'm mopping the floor with everything in hazres, and all I have is some crappy 3E pulse lasers and a powerplant upgrade. It feels like I've activated cheat mode or something.
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My biggest gripe with Horizons so far is that I'm afraid we're slowly encroaching on P2W territory.. hear me out.

Not certain I'm liking the idea of Horizons owners being able to craft special ammo that does more damage, but not being able to trade that ammo to other players for either credits or other goods. Otherwise the idea's pretty decent, it's just unfair, and I'm saying this as one of the spergs that owns the game and expansion pass.

Everything else I feel like's wrong with it can probably be fixed through patches and may not violate the visionquest. I'm really concerned that we'll never get a trade feature and more and more bullshit like this will progressively be heaped into the game.
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>>124875416
You can do the same with an imperial courier, the anaconda AI is not that great.
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What's better for combat:


>Fully A grade Vulture with Military grade composite. Weapons are two fixed pulse lasers. Size: Large.

>Python. Everything D grade other than an A grade FSD and Size 4 fuel scoop (Also A) Weapons are two medium railguns and three large gimbaled pulse lasers.
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>>124875562
E:D doesn't strike as PVP focused enough for there to be P2W.

That special ammo should be able to be bought anywhere. Maybe quite expensive but possible.

But then the inability to interact with other players beyond blowing them up is a running theme in E:D.
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>>124875836
>E:D doesn't strike as PVP focused enough for there to be P2W.
Well, yeah, especially considering most babbies play in solo mode or PvE-only groups.

Hopefully the ammo will be purchasable everywhere, we'll see. Not liking the two-tiered system, but I do like that you can finally "craft" shit now.

And yeah, interaction is still shit. Piracy's alright assuming your target doesn't alt-f4, but all I ever seem to find are other pirates (see: idiots) that for some reason think my spooky red and black Cobra with jolly rogers is carrying juicy cargo for them, and not just a ton of hurt.

Used to try to ambush people on rare trade runs and shit, but none of those people do them in Open, and even if they did, I have to get lucky and get the same instance with them.

Usually I just get interdicted by retards that open fire without even saying anything and have to force them to retreat.
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>>124875562
I get the same feeling, it's not like crafting couldn't be given to non-horizons players, just let them use regular mined materials, or you could even let everyone just buy it at station, and the point of crafting is to get it for free. I also have a problem with them locking what seem to be basic features, like multi-crew ships behind Horizons. It feels like FDev is stuck on treating this like a single player game from the late 90's/early 2000's, with expansions that lock a lot features with them. Their whole mindset towards Elite:Dangerous seems backwards and wrong.
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>>124876509
I do nothing but play open and haven't run into a single actual player.

Empire space is fucking dead.
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>>124876509
>And yeah, interaction is still shit. Piracy's alright assuming your target doesn't alt-f4, but all I ever seem to find are other pirates (see: idiots) that for some reason think my spooky red and black Cobra with jolly rogers is carrying juicy cargo for them, and not just a ton of hurt.
Honestly at this point improving the AI until it feels interesting to play against is probably better than trying to fix broken P2P networking and the Open/Solo divide.
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>>124875416
I just barely made my first 5 million, and it's tempting to buy one even though i wouldn't be able to afford to put anything on it
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>>124877445
You've got to at least be able to put your preferred C3 guns on it otherwise there's no point having it.
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>>124876509
>>124876919

At the very least they should incentivise open trading, maybe give a 30% profit and trade rank bonus for trading in open mode. Forumdads might not be too happy about it though.
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>>124876919
Unfortunately most of the braindead idiots that FDev gets feedback from think the AI is great, as they still manage to be worse pilots than a potato with wires attached to it, and FD won't do anything to Open/Solo as the carebears and forum dads would riot. I mean fuck couldn't they at least make it so that Open, Solo, and Group commanders are separate? They'd kill two birds with one stone that way, I mean it's ridiculous that we are a year out from release and you still can't have multiple saves.
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>>124877836
>At the very least they should incentivise open trading, maybe give a 30% profit and trade rank bonus for trading in open mode. Forumdads might not be too happy about it though.
It's been suggested multiple times and the forum shit fit that ensues is usually fairly epic.

>>124877881
Yeah the AI is fucking awful. Getting attacked by NPC pirates in Sidewinders without cargo scanners that demand you drop the epic loot you must be hauling in your A-ranked Vulture.

I guess it's funny the first time.
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>>124877881
The worst thing is that they wont ever fix the AI just stopping in the middle of combat and rolling in a certain direction for 10-30 seconds.
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>>124878775
I just started playing again a few days ago after not playing for months, I thought that they were doing that because of me hitting them or something, imagine my horror when I discovered that they were actually perfectly fine and just being retarded.
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>>124878996
When i came back also a few days ago after not playing for months, i noticed that they did that a lot more than i remembered. I usually saw it once or twice in a play session, but now i see it almost every fight. I wonder what they changed to cause this.
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How much cargo space do you need to reach a point where trading makes more money than bounties?
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>>124881681
When ever you can buy a Hauler and do rare trading.
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should I pick up horizons?
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>>124883783
should your face?
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>>124877881
>I mean it's ridiculous that we are a year out from release and you still can't have multiple saves.
I can't stand the fact that you can only have one custom control slot. Sometimes I want to use joystick and sometimes I want to use keyboard, but the only options they give you are to setup your controls again every single time you switch between them, or use their god awful default controls.

Why the fuck would someone make an artificial joystick that requires pixel perfect recentering, and then have the reticle light up as though it's centered when it clearly isn't? What kind of madman makes mouse up pitch up and mouse down pitch down
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>>124884895
I booted up System Shock 2 the other day. Even it has custom bind files.
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>>124877881
While the AI is fucking stupid, it sometimes does hillarious things.

>chasing an Eagle in RES
>melting him, he's down to 30%, waggling about 200 meters in front of me
>SUDDENLY a police Anaconda appears from the side, ramming that poor fucker at full speed, evaporizing him like fucking Jaws
>t-thanks?
>"Crime sweep complete, carry on, citizen"
>y-you too
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>>124885796
I ran into two Mostly Harmless Anaconda NPCs that didn't have the power to fire their guns and instead tried to ram everyone in my wing to death.
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>>124885796
More emergent shit like this is what the game needs. Even if it is silly, at least it was memorable.

Everything feels so controlled and stifled at the moment.
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>Dont panic! I have some important information for you.
>You're a hard one to track down.
>Follow me.
>There you are! I need to talk to you.
>I've come a long way to hold you I mean what's in your hold.
>Follow my wake it's IN A STAR LOL


NO. FUCKING GOD DAMN MOTHERFUCKING NO.
YOU SHITHEADED PAPARAZZI CHUCLEFUCK BASTARDS.
I AM DELIVERING FUCKING COFFEE. WHAT THE FUCK.
I SWEAR TO FUCK THERE WAS 4 OF THEM AT A STAR ONCE.
AND THEY ALL FUCKING MESSAGED ME AT ONCE.
I'M NOT FUCKING INTERESTED. I DONT WANT TO REDIRECT A 700000CR MISSION FOR 3K.
GO THE FUCK AWAY YOU RABID FRACTAL BASTARDS.

Also the players at Fehu are a nice bunch. But a bunch of guys in Asps taking 1 million credit deliveries are probably gonna be a cheery bunch.
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>>124884895
>you can change fov manually
>you can change hud color manually
>you can save keybind manually

Seriously whoever in charge of GUI, fuck you
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>>124885796
>>124886369
>>124886405
>encounter NPC Eagle outside station
>scan for bounty, idly check equipment
>triple rails
>is this even a thing with a class 2 powerplant?
>get up close with him targeted
>deploy hardpoints
>he deploys in response
>he loses all power, shields go offline and he starts drifting
>drifts right through the mail slot and into the station
>retract hardpoints
>he retracts hardpoints, thrusters come back online
>makes his way to his pad
>get close again and deploy hardpoints
>he deploys, ship goes dead over his pad
>centripetal force pulls him down to the pad and he docks successfully
>mfw
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>>124887875
HUD color is nice, but they can probably put sliders for that ingame.

Would also be fucking great if you didn't have to re-apply it every time they patch. There's no real reason that should be getting wiped every time but it does.
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>>124887875
GUI color changer is the most retarded thing ever.

It's not changing the actual HUD elements, but instead a general hue across the entire HUD. And what that does is when you change red in the HUD, you have no fucking idea wheter you have yellow or red dots on the radar and that shit is kind of important.

I don't even know what came through the mind of a guy who programmed that. Hopefully the next thing will be a bullet.
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>>124888138
That's fucking hillarious!
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>>124888138

That's fucking KSP Contracts level of gamebreaking randomness.

Fucking hell Vision.
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>>124813719
>someone else flies the FdL

I'm sorry.
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>go to high tech
>fill ship with iPhones
>go to any other system
>profit
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I don't think there are this many blackholes in the galaxy irl.
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Here's my current outfit for my ship:

http://coriolis.io/outfit/python/07D6D5A4D7D6D5C1e1e1e2a2a0g000404050505040432430201.Iw18eQ==.Aw18eQ==

1. Is there any better ship for trading in this price range.
2. Should I just drop the weapons?
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>Forumdad memes.
Does anyone find docking hard? I thought most people would be at the point where you have to make docking a race, see how fast you can smash the ship onto the pad, to make it interesting.
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>>124890108

Why the wake scanner?

Also you're using less than 20MW even with hardpoints deployed and everything powered. 5A power plant would give you better heat efficiency and reduce your mass by 22 tons.
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>>124890415
I bought a docking computer for my vulture because I have no idea what to do with my slots and I can spend the time auto-docking to go take a piss or something.
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>>124890469
Hey that's a valid reason.
"It's hard" is not.
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>>124890461
>Why the wake scanner?

Meant that to be a kill warrant scanner. Fixed link:

http://coriolis.io/outfit/python/07D6D5A4D7D6D5C1e1e1e2a2a0l000404050505040432430201.Iw18eQ==.Aw18eQ==

>Also you're using less than 20MW even with hardpoints deployed and everything powered. 5A power plant would give you better heat efficiency and reduce your mass by 22 tons.

Yeah, but it would cost more and bring my insurance up more. I only have about 10,000,000Cr right now.
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>>124890415

When I'm smuggling I boost, flip through the slot backwards, boost the other way to cut velocity and then and backflip onto the pad.
>>
Mining: Belts or Rings?

I heard belt mining is a newbie trap.
>>
>No specialized locations like Space Disney, industrial headquarters or naval storage yards
>No space station entertainment like Casinos, CQC betting, movie theaters, bars, etc
>No superfluous ship customization to throw in game money at like chromed landing gears and colorful neon docking lights
>No character effects like black out from too much acceleration or booze vision from spending too much time in a bar or too much onionhead
>No buskers that swarm your ship upon docking
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>>124890695

If you're not going to be bountying you could drop the KWS but keep the weapons for self-defense. Chaff could stay or go for another booster since you're a fat target that's hard to miss anyway. 6C power plant is cheaper than 7D and still a little more heat efficient while shaving off 12T, which would make it easier to invest a little in a 3A shield to double your protection.

eg:
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Note the power priorities still let you maneuver, chaff and frameshift with a crippled power plant.
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>>124890757
You can apparently red out, i have done it a couple times in my imperial courier.
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>>124890757
>No character effects like black out from too much acceleration

You can black/red out. It just takes a lot more Gs than in present-day flight suits thanks to 34th century biotech and flight gear.
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>>124770965
Bases on planets, you could have a guild base that is a money dump and then other players could track it down and attack you and raid you, upgrades could be like defenses or maybe resource creation
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>>124803070
>1B credits in assets
>no Elite anything

How the fuck even? Also your journey will be shortened by the next patch. The Cutter has a gobload of cargo space.

You did rank up with the Empire, right anon?
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>>124891816
These fucking cobra shitter
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>>124891816
Marquis now, almost Duke. 82% Tychoon.
Thank you, Fehu.
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Apparently Goldmember decided to build a starport.
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I'm flying a Cobra now. Is it wise to skip the Diamondback Explorer and go straight for the Asp?
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>>124893579
get type 6
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>>124893579
>ASP

If you must. I never used the Diamondback because it wasn't even in the game at the time, but yeah, rare trade runs in the Cobra alongside some missions are sufficient to get into an ASP and fit it out kind of nicely for whatever you plan on doing with it.

Alternatively, get the ASP and enough money to replace it a couple times/fill the cargo and do trade runs with it for a while. It's got a nice beefy max cargo capacity so it can trade kind of decently until you can fit the stuff you need on it.
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>>124893712
>>124893775
A type 6 lacks teeth. I want to have a ship that can pack a bit of a punch and haul some cargo at the same time. I think that I can outfit an Asp with some weapons to have it multirole a bit. Unlike the Type 6.
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Plasma Accelerators or Rail Guns on a Python's medium hardpoints?
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>no rank 3 multicannons
>cannons and frag cannons have laughable ammo supply
>can't install ammunition storages in empty cargo slots
>forced to use the retarded pew pew in Vulture

I love this game so much, and it shows me nothing but hate.
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>>124897561

I would rock all kinetic all the time if I could load out with 5 multicannons.
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>>124897761
I can't wait for Fer-De-Lance I'm currently grinding for.

4 medium multicannons and a huge cannon

I don't give a shit if it's efficient, I just want my BRRRT and a space Pz Kpfw V.

Before the Vulture I ran 4 multicannons on Viper and it felt so, so good to pull the trigger.
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Is it safe to just stay in the Python? I really hate how the Anaconda flies, and there's no way in hell I'm farming rank like a bat out of hell to get the corvette any time soon. (Couldn't care less about the cutter.)
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>>124898935
Depends on what you want to do. I like it because it fits in medium landing pads which means you can dock anywhere among other things.
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>>124899071
I just want to dick around and make money trading and bounty hunting at the same time while also being prepared for when they finally add in multicrew.
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>>124899239

The Python's perfectly fine for all of that.
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>>124899324
Even with only 128 cargo space?
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>>124899493

It carries 284 tons when fitted for trading with 336MJ shields (3A + 4 boosters), and you can refit anytime.

A hybrid fitting for trade and RES hunting can carry 260 (549MJ shields: 5A, 3 boosters + KWS) or 228 (635MJ shields: 6A, 3 boosters + KWS)

You can run 3 large pulses and dual rails with only a 6A power plant.
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>>124898424
I use 2 beam/2 multi cannon and the yooge cannon on my FdL.

It's slightly inefficient but fun. I like to use the cannon to bite chunks out of Anacondas and Pythons when I can hit them, multocannons for killing modules obviously
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>>124900402
I want to run a full kinetic build not only because it's fun, but also because running out of ammo forces me to visit a station and turn my bounties/bounds.

Otherwise, I get wrapped up in fighting and spend an hour there, only to make a mistake and get shat on, losing everything.
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I've flown to Robigo but my rank with them isn't Friendly yet. How many donation missions do I need to grind in order to get a good standing with them?
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Is the cobra a fast ship with stock parts, or do I need to have an A-class thruster before it's considered 'fast'?
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>>124900968

A stock Cobra cruises around 280 and boosts around 400m/s. That's still pretty fast but it can't chain boost with the stock power distributor and will get outrun by ships in the 380m/s stock boost range that have upgraded their thrusters/distributor to boost past 400.

With a generic upgraded loadout it'll do around 310/445 unladen and 300/430 laden.

eg:
http://coriolis.io/outfit/cobra_mk_iii/04A4A4A3D3A3D4C27270p0p0000450303010101.Iw1-kA==.CwBhGYzAmXrAjFMQ
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>>124901850
Thanks Anon
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How reliable is the Elite: Dangerous Database when using it's multihop route planner?

I'm going to marathon trade tomorrow in the hopes of making 100,000,000Cr in 24 hours.
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>>124902365
What ship are you using?
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>>124902568
http://coriolis.io/outfit/python/07D6D5A4D7D6D5C1e1e1e2a2a04040404050505040432430201.Iw18eQ==.Aw18eQ==
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>>124890757
>>No specialized locations like Space Disney, industrial headquarters or naval storage yards
>>No superfluous ship customization to throw in game money at like chromed landing gears and colorful neon docking lights
Only these two would be okay. The others are fucking stupid RP trash.
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>>124902641
No way in hell do you pull off making 100,000,000 in that. It's just not possible.
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>>124892605
covered in sulfur from the time it spend orbiting io
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>>124902859
Okay Dr Floyd.
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>>124902756
>Over-G blackout
>stupid RP trash

You didn't think it through, did you, anon?
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>>124904136
>sideys.jpg
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>>124872839
> like player clans/guilds/groups, not punishing players for grouping, group content, endgame, etc., etc.
protip, you get a hefty share of the money if you are in a wing for things like:
trading, selling ores from mining, getting a share from missions, getting additional shares from bounty hunting

and all you have to do, is being somewhat close to the players in your wing
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>>124904254
That doesn't really quite provide the same level of multiplayer feel and content an actual MMO would provide.
It upsets me how I'm told this game needs always online bullshit cause it is a deep multiplayer experience when they are preventing all player organisation because it is not an MMO. You can actually have commodities shift in supply and demand regardless of players and that is THE ONLY FUCKING THING players are currently able to affect in this galaxy.
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>>124904821
commodity is pure rng
so its fucking nothing
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>>124892605
that a cube
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>>124904821
i'm just saying that the game does not punish you for playing in groups
and sadly both offline and group play affect what's happening in the online part of the game. That's why it feels that NOTHING changes when you are doing something online
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>>124905003
It doesn't punish, but it makes it pretty fucking hard to actually play in group (that fucking instancing) and it doesn't really reward playing in groups. The Strong Signal Sources sure provide a challenge to groups and can be exciting, but for what, 5 containers of gold? Please.
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>>124905221
>turn on beacon to wing
>people nav-lock onto you
>everytime you drop, they drop to you when within distance
it sounds like you did not bother to research how to acctualy get the multiplayer to be playable in the first place
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>>124905361
>Be in group and in the same system
>Can't see each other because the server decided to put us into different instances
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>>124905459
that should not happen anymore if you have the group of peoples in your friends list, and in the same group list.
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>>124905593
Okay. Was the experience that I had on it last time. Haven't played in a wing for over 6? months now. If it now works great, too bad I no longer have time nor friends to play this game with.
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>>124905728
you are in a thread with people that play this game, just make new friends

also on a diffrent topic
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=209666&p=3225883
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>>124904136
His lunch is all over his canopy now
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>>124905965
With no beta access I have no idea whether this guy needs to git gud or they have actually made combat hard without making it rewarding.
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Either you're smuggling slaves from Robigo, or you're a top fucking casual
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>>124906290
the dude is fucking retarded. Complains that he can't take on an Anaconda in a viper anymore since the NPCs stopped being brainless credits piniatas
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>>124906343
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>>124905003
>i'm just saying that the game does not punish you for playing in groups
It does if you're playing coop. Your bh profits will be split evenly while the fatness of NPCs stays the same. So you're losing money.
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>>124906535
>NPCs stopped being brainless credits piniatas
Do you even play this game, lowercase shitposter?
They stop and start to spin aimlessly while you shoot at them. How is that not a pinata?
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>>124906962
that's what the forum poster claims in simple words
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>>124906343
>needing money
ayy lmao. I'm at the rank grinding level
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Has anyone in the beta found something interesting on those planets? Aliums? Rare alloys?
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>>124907327
Rocks and plains, lifeless bases as well.
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>>124907461
And pocket lint?
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>>124904254
Before cqc dropped, trade dividends weren't working, also mining didn't give dividends.

Considering that no one noticed, and ftroops lack of caring or competency there's a good chance it hasn't been fixed.

Ftroops has more resources than a single coder and yet can't do much more than a single coder could and most times even less.
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ANIME IS REAL
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>>124908447
Planet Coaster isn't going to code itself anon.
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>>124908618
Doesn't that shield give you something ridiculous like 10% more shields at 50% more draw and weight?
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>>124908645
Sadly if they put in a planet called planet coaster and then gwv you passengers to ferry to the planet where the rides never end, that would be content and ftroop can't even do that level of coding
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>>124908745
It gives me something like 110 more mj
also i dont care about power draw and weight, i dont fly a vulture.
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>>124906343
Anything good for Broker rank?
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pity bump
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>>124911850
Thanks Dad
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>>124911937
ur welcome son
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>>124912909
How's /scg/?
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>>124913816
looks alive
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My flightstick hasn't arrived yet, I hope tomorrow :(
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Dev update hints at the appearance of Generation ships sometime during Horizons.
Finally fitting some cool lore into this game.
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>>124917096
>Go near a generation ship
>Get a galaxy wide bounty

pls i want this.
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>>124917096
>Horizons
Dropped
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>>124917648
you know that things like crafting and other silly space stuff will be avaible for everyone?
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>>124917865
Depends on the sales, just buy it, goy!
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>>124917865
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>>124920260
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zxcvb
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>>124793613

Braben announced release for Dec 15th.
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>>124921649
Their RPG terminology rubs me the wrong way: Loot and Crafting. They could have chosen better terms such as collecting and manufacturing or something.

But anyhow I still don't see the benefit of all this. You can only "loot" stuff one canister at a time, yeah? And crafting... what? I doubt they'll let you make your own ammo and the entire player-to-player trading method is shitty: One canister at a fucking time.
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>>124921649
He says loot specifically, nothing about the crafting system, which could be included in the "loot content" he describes as being in Horizon only.
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>>124921649
see >>124920260
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>>124922458
Agreed, your suggestions are pretty nice. But their ability to balance the Visionary™ multiplayer experience and keep out the 'gold farming' is the worst of both worlds. Now we have a shitty multiplayer game that has nothing worth doing besides looking for painiteexploits
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>>124921649
>Sandro Sammarco
Goddamn I hate this faggot so much. One of the key figures responsibe for the current state of ED, Mr. Force My Retarded Idea Guy.
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>buy this game 2 days ago
>play the training
>now what
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>>124923163
Oh, thank you very much, fagtron.

Now see this>>124922459
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>>124923327
But >>124922459 is the reason why >>124921649 doesn't answer >>124920260
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>>124923309
R E F U N D

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>>124923309
See image
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>>124923309
refund and get it for 15 bucks in christmas
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So I've been considering upgrade to my Vulture shield and did some math to find out how the power efficiency looks.

B5 shield = 368 MJ at 3.120 power
A5 shield = 392 MJ at 3.640 power

Now let's add A0 boosters with 1.2 power draw and 20% shield cap boost.

B5 + 1 A0 = 441,6 MJ at 4.320 power
A5 + 1 A0 = 470,4 MJ at 4,840 power

This essentially means that better shields aren't flat upgrades as long as power is considered, and shields with boosters even moreso.

B5 gives you 117,94 shield per power unit.
A5 gives you 107,69+ shield per power unit.
B5 + 1 A0 gives you 102,22+ shield per power unit.
A5 + 1 A0 gives you 97,19+ shield per power unit.

And it also means that having a higher class shield is more efficient than having lower class, boosted.

I might actually calculate all shield grades + booster combinations at some point, if anyone would find it useful, I'll post it here.
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>>124923437
Ah, I get it, soz m8.
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>>124923584
Spreadsheet it up
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>>124923465
>>124923576
>>124923459
you can refund after a sale in steam, though
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>>124922458
Those are just buzzwords for casual crowd, I'd guess.

EVE has very advanced "crafting" with the industry, but I don't think they are capable of implementing player-run economy in the game, at it's current state.

They did say something about customizing modules, so my guess is another layer of items on top of what NPCs sell, only made by players out of salvage and shit. I doubt there will be an option to sell those though, because MUH singleplayer, so everyone will make their own shit and there won't be any dedicated manufacturers.
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>>124923584
Why do nerds always get into autistic excitment over theorycrafting shit?

Especially in a game with a poor inventory like ED.

Especially when accompanying it with EVE maymay picture about fitting.
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>>124923697
I'd love to spreadsheet this shit, but I'm kind of afraid that I'm working with wrong data. I can get power values and boost % from the game, but I'm taking the raw shield strength from here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Xq2fmxhjfNiwtR2fBR1MAZrwEcjFudSuSjTOLwfcqlM/pubhtml

And this table is from v1.2, so I don't know if it's still viable source of data.
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>>124924160
Fuck off, weeb.
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>>124924032
I like spreadsheeting stuff, anon.

Surely, ED isn't anywhere close to EVE level of customization, but it's just fun.

And if not for people who test and do the math, we wouldn't have stuff like build calculators and wouldn't have any real, objective idea of what does what, and possibly, what is broken.
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>>124924596
Yeah, aka autism.
>lol through the magic of 2+2 I've figured out that higher tier shields give more shield points but require more power
You're actualy comaring your super obvious findings that doesn't require any calcultions to get with serious math?
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>>124925028
Math is math, wheter it's 2+2 or complicated calculations. Never said mine was serious.

The interesting thing for me was finding out that efficiency ratio diminishes with shield upgrades.

Claiming it was obvious to you from what you see in-game would be a delusion.

I'm not sure when being curious and figuring shit out became autism, but it is kind of sad, don't you think?
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>>124925697
>Claiming it was obvious to you from what you see in-game would be a delusion.
Um, shield strenght as well as power reqs are in the item card, dummy. Also this shit exists:
http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Shield_Generator
http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Shield_Booster
Your pseudo analytical wankery brought nothing new to the table. That's what sad.
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>>124926140
>shield strenght as well as power reqs are in the item card

I never noticed the strength value there, the wiki provides only a vague formula and there is no data on power efficiency, let alone any calculations regarding shield boosters.

Why are you a dick, anon? Is it because there is far more important information to be posted in the thread, which is so alive, that my posts impair it?

Or do you just want to participate in a pointless exchange of arguements, because you have nothing else to do with your time?
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>>124927052
>power efficiency
Like it's not obvious that more power hungry modules eat more power, how retarded are you? What kind of a zen power efficiency you're talking about, care to elaborate or it's just a buzzword?

>any calculations regarding shield boosters
What calculations do you need when it's a simple modifier to your base shield?

>Why are you a dick, anon?
Because you struck me as a retard who tries to make simple things look super hard and himself a fucking genious for figuring it out. Want a cookie for it?
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>>124927052
>the wiki provides only a vague formula
Also, this bullshit right here. What's so vague about it exactly?
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>>124927543
>What kind of a zen power efficiency you're talking about, care to elaborate

You would actually figure that out if you read through the first post carefully.

It's how much shield you get per one unit of power. It diminishes with each shield upgrade and booster, or so it seems from the example, at least. That also answers your second question. Shield booster has a set power drain, and modifies the shield capacity by set percentage. So it's efficiency is directly tied to the shield capacity.

>Because you struck me as a retard who tries to make simple things look super hard and himself a fucking genious for figuring it out.

I never claimed that whatever I did is hard, or that I'm somehow a genious because I did it, actually, quite contrary. You are simply superimposing those claims on me, to justify getting angry and/or annoyed because of me. Do you do that often? If so, do you notice it happening?
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>>124928371
"Vague" might be a poor choise of word on my end. The formula itself though doesn't really show you anything. It's a good tool to use if you want to figure shields out, but you would still have to gather the data, calculate it and compile the results.

Someone already did that, and there is a link to the spreadsheet with unboosted shield capacities for different ships.

However, there is no clear information anywhere wheter it is better to exchange shield for higher quality, or simply apply a booster, you still have to check it. Which I did, it was fun, and I shared that information here. That's all there is to it.
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>>124928539
>It's how much shield you get per one unit of power. It diminishes with each shield upgrade and booster
Again, how is that important and not obvious?
Thats what I was asking about. Where is that real application of "power efficiency"? Is that a useless metric you thought out on the spot or it has some real in game applications?
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>>124929228
>but you would still have to gather the data, calculate it and compile the results.
>the table with the raw dat is abowe
>a link to ready to digest post calculation vaules below

>However, there is no clear information anywhere wheter it is better to exchange shield for higher quality, or simply apply a booster
>booster page says it's shield*multiplyer
>so a shield with a boost gives more than b shield with boost with equal mass parameters
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>>124929584
"Important" is a subjective thing. It might be for someone who would like to figure out a build for a power-starved ship like Vulture. There might be someone who does in the thread, or not. I don't really care.

I didn't do it because I felt it was important. It was just a little fun thing to do. I wasn't aware that you have a monopoly on deciding what is and what isn't worth posting here. Do you think so? Trying to figure you out is much more fun than any of that shield related stuff.
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>>124930452
Im asking for actual gameplay examples of it's importance.

>a build for a power-starved ship like Vulture
And that hypothetical person will still face the more shield vs more power draw which is obvious without any calculations. How this "power efficiency" feng shui changes this simple meta?
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>>124931005
A simple example would be someone considering wheter said power is worth investing into shields, or something else, like weapons.

If a shield gets less and less power efficient with upgrades, it might mean that investing that power into something else is a better choise.

Could you eyeball that without taking power efficiency into consideration? Absolutely.

Is it critically important to gameplay or ship fitting? No.

It's just you, getting frustrated over a post on the internet that doesn't really matter to you at all. It might not even matter to anyone else, why would you care though?
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>>124931962
>A simple example would be someone considering wheter said power is worth investing into shields, or something else, like weapons.
Again, it's obvous from the get go and doesn't need any calculation or invention of spurious terms. People balance their fitting according to their needs and if the need is for more shields than higher tier ones win. If they want power, they downgrade to lower class modules at the cost of less specific output. There, no need for shitty theorycating.

Good to hear that you've finally understood how useless your wankery was.
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Does anyone know the formulas or know of a site that lists the formulas for xp or whatever you want to call it for the different job ranks?

I'm trying to figure out how trade xp is earned. If it is just a straight up tons moved or if it is based off of profit margin or what.
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>>124933309
Please do point out where I said it was useful.

I actually stated on multiple occasions that it was just a fun thing to do. Fun isn't always supposed to be useful.

Did you seriously waste so much time to "prove" to someone on the internet that something they posted wasn't important even though they never said it was in the first place? Why? Why would you do that?

And what's even more ironic is that you did all that while calling me autistic, which I assume means to you "someone who obsesses over unimportant details".

You were fun. Thanks for that.
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>>124934563
http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Trader
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>>124935809
>Please do point out where I said it was useful.
So what was the point of it after all and why you got so defensive when I called it useless wank in the first place? You don't make sense.
>Fun isn't always supposed to be useful
No one should consider your own autistic definition of fun when arguing about things. Some people(you) find eating feces fun, so what?
>And what's even more ironic
That's not ironic, that's fighting fire with fire.
Continue being a worthless autistic weeb.
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I cant get any goddamn jobs besides attacking ships.

I cant smuggle illegal goods because I dont have high enough ranks, and I cant raise those ranks BECAUSE I CANT FIND ANY DMAN JOBS

Im just burning credits going from port to port looking for work and refueling
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>>124937071
You don't actually have to leave a port to find new missions you know, you can just log and re-log to change the mission on the board.
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>>124938014

I just did that and the board is the same as before
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Why would anyone trade in a wing?

>Buy cargo, fly out and jump with friend, wait on friend to refuel because combat ships don't have fuel tanks.
>Jump again, wait for friend to refuel
>Jump again, wait for fuel.
>Make one trade in the time it could have taken you to do five trades.
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>>124937071
You got visioned, lad.
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>>124938361
Why would anyone do any coop activity in this exuse of a game besides gakng for fun?

Actually, it's seems that Braben supports gankig by making other activities tiresome and unproductive. Was getting caught part of his plan?
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>>124938261
change between open and solo
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>>124939197

thanks
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Is it possible to rank up in Federation and Alliance?
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How fast could I hit rank five with ALD if I farm the shit out of crime sweeps this week?
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How much do you guys use flight assist off? Is it possible to make it not affect the orientation thrusters?
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>>124940848
super fucking long and boring grind. If you aren't hell-bent on getting the corvette/cutter I advise against it, the ships aren't worth it anyway
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>>124940848
Alliance never
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>>124941110
Do we know how exactly the rank progression is calculated anyway?

I've begun suspecting the simple amount of time your cmdr has existed is a factor. I just barely play the game, I don't care about grinding for faction rep and I'm Lord. But I've been around since alpha
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>>124940880
As fast as you shit shit after shit on a shingle.

We, don't know, you fucking retard, Mr Brabo made this whole naval progression thingy so random that it can't be measured in anything right now.
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I bought my first vulture and scoured the forums for builds. Most people seem to go with pulse lasers, which is fine. It allows for a very versatile build. But for fun I sacrificed my shield cell to free up some power and some speed put this vulture together: http://coriolis.io/outfit/vulture/14A5B4A3A5A4A3C0v0v----452b272566.AwRj4zyA.Aw19kA==

Holy fuck things die fast to twin beam lasers. Is the best defense a good offense?
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>>124943810
>some power and some speed
>vulture
Does not compute. Get the FDL anyway.

>double L beams
>things die fast
Or Python.
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>>124754753
star citizen is gonna be better than you

how do you feel?
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>>124944665
will probably be playing HL3 by the time it releases anyway :)
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>>124944448
Well, yeah, I'll get the FDL when I can afford it. But this is the best I can afford since I am a newfag at this game still.

I meant sacrificing the shield cell and thruster speed to free up some power so I could fit the beams.
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Haven't played in 4 months, what have I missed? Is making mad dosh the only thing people do still?
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>>124944783
lel

its supposed to release next year
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>>124945223
just like it was "supposed" to be released in 2014? ;^)
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>>124945638
i didnt hear that!

but its now in its testing stage, these guys are so damn rich theyre spending shit on mansions n cars. its gonna happen, i just hope its well optimized
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>>124944815
IIRC it depletes the capacitor super fast anyway. Fun but not really practical.
Try one fixed beam and a cannon or g pulse.
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>>124946769
Alpha 1.2 - meaning basically nothing
also they're blowing shit tons of money on getting famous actors to do voices
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>>124947585
Nigga pls, their alpha is what our premium beta was.
Face it, SC is happening. Will it be a fun game tho remains to be seen.
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So I bought this from steam and was wondering if I buy Horizons from FD store will my steam saves/progress carry over to FD store Horizons or do I have to wait until they release it for steam?
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>Chilling in LHS 3505 doing bounties in my Vulturefu
>Suddenly an anaconda comes up
>tells me to wing with him, leave, or die
>tell him he's being a bit rude
>he just sends me a wing invite and turns away from me
>target: Anaconda
>sub-target: Power Plant
>leave the guy floating dead in space
>he logs out right after I get his plant to 0% and send him "talk shit get hit"
overall a 10/10 first PvP experience
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>>124948685
>things that never happened
Or he's a fucking braindead retard in a stripped trade conda.

Vulture is a shit ship in PvP and any competent FDL/Python/Conda will fuck it up no problemo.
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>>124949073
Considering how he was using pulse lasers in every fucking slot presumably he recently acquired it and felt like tough shit
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>A Cmdr decides to attack me
>He becomes red
>Still clean
>Maybe it was just an accident
>He persists
>Decide to defend myself
>Get wanted
How does this fucking shit work?
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>>124948685
>talk shit get hit

No matter what happened there, 10/10.
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>>124949508
Then you got lucky and catched a genuine forumdad in open. I envy you, damn.
Gonna check the gulag tomorrow for a salt mine thread.
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>>124948685
Post your BH Vulturefu build for a fellow Vulture BHer, senpai
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>>124949968
Here's what I'm using right now
http://coriolis.io/outfit/vulture/24A5B4A3A5A4C3C0v0v000n--4bf4--2h.Iw19kA==.Aw19kA==?bn=Vulturefu
It's probably far from optimal and the LS probably isn't necessary but I like being able to get into situations like this and not give a fuck
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>>124949960
Forumdad?
Is that like an armchair general for a video game?
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>>124951185
No, it's worse. Far far worse.
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>>124951321
Explain further.
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Cool, I just met Putin.
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>>124951429
Let's begin with the obligatory.
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>>124951547
Jesus christ
>>124951478
>part of the nationalists
I chuckled
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>>124951634
Our adventure through the gulag continues.
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>when the only thing not clean in the HAZRES is fucking eagle wings
why bother
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https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=209146
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>>124950725
Thanks!

Here's what I'm aiming for, I have most of it, except for armor and hardeners:

http://coriolis.io/outfit/vulture/24A5C4B3D5A4C3C0v0v0408-0n4a2b272525.Iw19kA==.IwBhrSuo

I played around and figured that armor and hardeners might be really worth it for sustained fights, since the drop in top speed is very minimal, and wheter thrust/weight affects ship turn rate is unconfirmed.

Since I'm hunting in RES, I don't need a frame shift scanner, and I don't really move around much, so I can drop that FSD for a lower rank and get a better second shield booster, or switch it out for a chaff maybe (though it would be the only thing apart from armor that will require for me to return to station).

Gimbals are a good choise, because of lower power drain and DPS is actually higher than fixed because of more time on target. They do pop chaff, but I just wait untill it passes, while my batteries charge. If I'm point blank, chaff doesn't help them anyway.
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>>124951634
We go deeper
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>>124951753

I've seen the forumdads talking about how they cant wake their children on the Steam discussions.

It's fucking weird.
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DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO GET MAXIMUM COMFY AND GET THE VOICEATTACK SOFTWARE + http://www.elitedangerousvoicepack.com/

FOR FREEEEEEEEEEEEEE

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>124952004
literally solo mode
>>124951868
holy shit I never knew about this shit
maybe I should browse the forums
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>>124952004
I don't get it.

Does he actually know there's solo mode?
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>>124952370
>I should browse the forums
Godspeed you mad bastard.
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>>124952356
GAVPI is literally all over google when you search for free VA alternatives.

If you want VA specifically, but for free, good luck.
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>>124952004

This faggot cant even make it to unpopulated systems?

I'm lucky to see more than 5 players a day.
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>>124952794

I'd let them vaporize me before I pledged to Princess Bitch.

If I ever meet one of those waifu faggots I'm going to blast him or die trying.
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>>124951958
Yeah, I really like the gimbals.
It's amazing to bring an eagle from full to 0 in a single capacitor charge.
I do like the flexibility the A FSD gives me, just so I can easily link up with wingmates.
The hull boosters would probably be a sound investment for me considering I enjoy ramming people to finish them off, thanks for the idea anon!
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>>124952794

Fucking hell those guys make the Empire look bad.
Impeach that cunt.
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>>124951478
>Putin
>flying best ship
Not surprised to be honest, family memeber.
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>>124952794
The only thing she's got going is an okay piece of artwork.

The anti-slavery agenda and all the viral shit she's doing is clearly populist.

Her powerplay missions are boring courier stuff.

Her shield is not worth the effort.

Her community is a bunch of anti-social unorganized neckbeards.

Meanwhile ALD is a heaven for bounty hunters and the players are as organized as you can get given the tools we have.
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>>124951868
second post and my sides are already gone
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>>124951478
>HUICHE
>Hui is dick in Russian and Ukrainian

Coincidence? Or something more?
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Guys, whats a good hazres site to go to in duval space? I want that extra 20% bounty reward.
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>>124954198
I'm in Kokobii
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>>124952608
Bless your soul thanks for this. I don't know why I didn't consider free alternatives even existing.

However, I did see a video of someone using Voice Attack and being able to request docking in a starport. That's pretty much the only reason I want it but I'll see if GAVPI can do the same.
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>>124953820
That's the epitome of daddism.
Hate multyplayer>>>>>dictate how people who love it should play it cuz MUH FEELINGS.
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>>124952794
Damn son, what hud mix is that?
It's sexy as fuck.
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>>124953572
Hey is that a mashed potato planet? Why it is so ugly?
Are you sure it's worth 60$?
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>>124954198
Wait, extra 20% bounty?
Did I miss something?
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>>124954412
That picture is 6 months old, don't have the numbers left. Sorry man
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>>124954548
what do you expect from dead planets ?
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>>124954724
I don't expect nothing from dead planets, I expect Ftroop to up their shader game.
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>>124954198
I'm having fun in Gende.

High tech station right beside a planet with three types of RES to choose from, along with CZ for the civil war.

It's also just 27 ly from HQ, though it's not an important system for overall powerplay effort.
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>>124954571
If you are rank 2 with ALD, which is laughably easy to obtain, you get +20% bounty payouts in ALD control systems.

That being said, if I'm correct, it's actually 30% now, because ALD is in 3rd place.
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>>124948516
yes you can link the accounts
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>>124948685
>not winging with that alpha and terrorizing the stars with your new bro
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To understand the forumdad, you have to realize that they are all babyboomers and early genX'ers. The "this isn't how I imagined it how dare you not cater to me I WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MANAGER!" type of people you run into every day. They ruined the economy, the job and realestate markets and wrecked the environment leaving the rest of us to suffer through endless guilt trips while they try to blame their fuckups on all the younger generations. They poison everything they touch, what they're trying to do with Elite is just a symptom of what they are.
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>>124952004
On one hand I feel really bad for him. I'm just picturing some grand dad marvelling at how good video games look nowadays and losing his shit that his old favorite is back to life and getting BTFO by some savage.

But at the same time, yeah solo mode is a thing and where in god's name are these old farts finding so much god damn action? They talk about this as if it was just a merciless never ending warzone with tons of marauding carrion feeders waging an endless battle. I've crossed like 3 traders so far and not a single player in an actual combat ship other than my buddy. Do they not know that if it doesnt say CMDR it's not an actual player?
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>>124956396
>alpha
>can't even beat a vulture with a conda
>bro
>logs out when beaten instead of self destructing like a true captain
pls
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>>124956986
Good thing they've already parted with their money and now Brabo has to pander to other demographic to get some more.
Or that's what I hope will happen.
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>>124952356
i have the voice pack and could upload it but for voice attack itself its no dice
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>>124957323
Considering how much the npc's love to interdict these days, he's probably getting harassed by the ai and doesn't even realize it.
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>>124952356
There's a cracked version of it floating on some torrent tracker
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>>124951868
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So, for a bounty hunter/space cop/paladin such as me, is ALD worth it to put up with getting interdicted all the time?
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>>124955213
Wait, you have to be rank 2 with her? Shit, how do you gain merits with powers? I never really paid attention to powerplay.
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>>124935849
Yea I've read that page, my question came because I was doing some of those long range trade missions and my trade rank was going up because of them. So I guess the money you get from the mission counts as trade profit? Or is it the moving of goods?
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>>124958295
M-maybe he did 1000 hours in solo and switched to open? He.. he can't expect shooting npcs is pvp, can he?

>>124958410
Pledge ALD, grind that combat rank and bounties, dump the bitch once Elite.
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>>124958295
I guess he means he's hot shit taking four tooled FDLs all by himself all the time. Or he's batshit insane.
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>>124958517
>long range trade missions
>trade missions
>trade
>or I guess the money you get from the mission counts as trade profit?

Yes, the server transactions counted as a trade also increase your trade rank.
You are selling the goods after all.
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So it looks like zachary hudson also has the bounty payout increase as well. What the point of siding with ALD then? I would just have to travel a fuck huge distance for the same bonus, not to mention hudson has the better payout because he is higher in galactic ranking.
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>>124959407
>wanting a gay frag cannon instead of a burst fire railgun
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>>124959407
People just naturally assuming you aren't a smelly fucking feddie scumbag
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>>124959696
at least we can all agree that alliance is literally pure garbage
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>>124959696
>>124960202
Gee I wonder why Empire gets all the attention.
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HERE I GO AGAIN ON MY OWN
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>>124952356
Look for voice attack links I posted on the old /edg/ it should still be on the archive
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>>124960375
Yup. He's been playing this slave game since 1984.
Fair enough I'd say.
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>FDL never
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>>124960823
Please.
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>>124960823
you are never going to make it in a vulture
you should get something with more cargo and head to Robigo, or if you are doing the killing, do take the missions for the killings so you will have a chance to get some ranks too
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>>124961539
b-but I like the vulture
its cute
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>>124961539
When you guys talk about Robigo, or any kind of place is it fairly close to the starting area?

In fact, is the starting area the same for everyone? The galaxy is so fucking huge I find it hard to believe it would spawn everyone in random parts. Plus, the powerplay mechanic seems to only be in the starting area.
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>>124960375
>>124960202
Yes absolutely. I'd support putting our differences aside to destroy that Nu-Male faggot Mahon and claim their rares for the real factions
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>>124961726
Robigo is 400ly away from anything. That's why there's money to be made there. You get paid per distance traveled.
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Why is there's no Confederate Flag Paintjob for Viper, Braben?
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>>124961726
Most of the Galaxy is completely empty, and Powerplay covers all human inhabited systems which is roughly 1000 ly across in all direction IIRC.
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>>124961703
just don't get the idea to get the silly idea of getting a clipper
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>>124960627
Not the guy who asked, but im intrested too.

cant find anything in the archives
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>>124962652
>ISIS
>independant
ALLAH HAS FORTOLD VICTORY
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>>124962891
they even have black childs stadium there
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>>124957538
Could you upload the voice pack plis?

>>124958165
I tried looking but no dice
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>>124954198
>Hip 16607
>Jura

has conflict zones and RES and HazREs right next to stations. These are also located in Empire space for the 20% passive
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>>124947970
SC will probably be cool. It will never live up to the image of the game that the fans have constructed in their heads though. I can't imagine the final release going well, the forum whining will be intense.

What do you guys call your forums fags anyway?
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>>124951547
>mfw I fit right into the middle of that fucking graph.

>>124952004
Shit I played the older games as well (Frontier Elite 2 and First Encounters). Speaking of which why the fuck do those games still have a better mission system than Dangerous?
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>>124959314
But technically I'm not the one doing the trading. I'm just getting payed by someone to move their shit to another station.

I fucked up my wording, I've been doing courier missions. I don't know why those count as trade income. In the end I guess it doesn't matter and I'll just take the xp for something that isn't trading.
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>>124963879
Go put your children to bed and file your taxes and prepare food, DAD!
But a very good question.
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>>124958474

seconding this question
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>>124963602
>What do you guys call your forums fags anyway?
>>124951185
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>>124959635
Is the hammer any good? They really need to make more weapon variants generally available without locking them behind grind walls.

>>124964030
Go the fuck to sleep son, daddy wants to play with imaginary spaceships.

The mission thing is so weird because Braben fucking coded most of Elite 2 himself. He knows exactly what he did. Unless his memory is failing him in his old age.

>>124964179
It tells you on the power's screen how to gain merits. Also read the Powerplay manual.
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daily meme
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>>124966796

If he doesnt fight back purely by ramming you then they had one job and fucked it up.
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>>124966796
KSP is shit
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http://www.youdubber.com/index.php?video=xMV9WNDkCzM&video_start=10&audio=m3zvVGJrTP8&audio_start=39
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>>124973346
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>>124973346
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYwQ9wOOLxA
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>>124973901
Got more?

>>124974282
Too bad you can't replace the ship voice.

>>124974461
:^)
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>>124941506
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=165258
Basically doing missions is how you rank up.
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>>124952356
>>124962828
http://kat-tor.xyz/voiceattack-v1-5-7-cracked-t11269168.html#comment
Lucky for you I still had the link in my history.
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>>124975348
did they nerf this? Pretty sure I did more than 50 charity missions for empire and My rank is only allied and none .
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>>124908745

15% increase in shield strength for double the weight and 33% more power consumption.

It's just another way to make the general-purpose ships with their ample headroom that much more OP in combat compared to dedicated combat ships.

A prismatic Anaconda with max stack of shield cell banks has effectively 10K shields.

7K for a similarly equipped Python.
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>>124976696
I don't think so. A few weeks ago I got up to Post Commander and Earl. I just hit Marquis by doing some charity and trading missions. You were doing charity mission for the empire-aligned minor factions right?
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>>124949698

Did you have "report crimes against me" set to off?

You might think it's on, but check it anyway.
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>>124949698
Were both of you in powerplay factions and were you in his faction's turf?
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>>124965086
>Is the hammer any good?

It's a great way to fire three reduced-damage shots in rapid succession and miss with two of them in order to do 1/3 of the damage you would if you'd just fired a standard railgun.
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>>124890415
The first few times I docked I had no idea about vertical thrusters because my friend has the whole forum dad set up for 100% immersion and his controllers have a different button for everything so I was just flying up to the pad, popping the ship in reverse and sliding in nice and easy. The only real trouble is when I accidentally hit boost instead of landing gear as I was heading for the mail box in an eagle, sending me spinning into it with the same friend going "Any other ship, you'd hit the toaster racks you lucky sod"

I have no idea how people find docking hard.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dHENa4bVDs

Flight assist off always looks more fun.
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Someone kill dads with me.
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>>124980634
Imagine docking when the controls have been changed would be actually challenging.

What control set-up do most people use on here anyway?

I just use joystick and mouse.
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>>124917258
Always wondered why elite lore insists on a harsh punishment for interfering with a generation ship. But then I finally got it.

You are determined, idealistic person obsessed with the idea of exploring the big unknown.
You forgo your material belongings and family ties to fulfil your destiny.
To reach for the stars, to step on a virgin alien world, to start a new civilization under a new sun.
You enter the Generation program.
You've passed the brutal selection process and rigorous training.
You've shown great aptitude in many different roles.You're the best of the best.
They've chosen you to be a chief executive officer of this mission, it's head honcho.
This is you're dream come true.
You see this mind bogglingly huge ship, the technological marvel of it fills you with pride.
Everyone is in their cryopods. That's it.
The ships computer puts everyone to sleep and ship departs to it's epic journey.
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>>124982912
100 years later.
Your ship computer suddenly awakes you from your sleep. Apparently there's another ship trying to contact you.
You check your navigation computer. You're halfway to your target, a distant system Bleaehfhrshen-df-0165645468.
You look on the monitor.
It's a strange ship resembling a fat tick with a gaudy orange flames paint job on it. On it's sides it's written in bold and gold: "KISS MY ASP".
"But that's impossible! We're in the middle of nowhere!"-you think to yourself.
You answer the call.

>HEYYYYAHHHOLOLOLOHUEA *dorito crackle*
>H-hello?
>FUCKING FINALLY, TOUGHT NOBODYS HOME! HOW YA DOIN, FRIDGE MEAT?
>W-who are you? What are you doing here? How you appeared out of nowhere?
>NAMES CMDR FMSU, WHAT DO YOU MEAN APPEA... OOOH, I GET IT... IT'S THE FRAMESHIFT DRIVE M8.
>F-frame what?
>YEAH IT'S THE THING THAT ALLOWS ME TO TRAVEL FASTER THAN LIGHT AND DO JUMPS MORE THAN 30LY. DANK SHIT.
>H-how... where are you from?
>BULLSHITSKY REACH, YOU PROLLY NEVER HEARD ABOUT IT. ANOTHER ONE OF THOUSANDS NEWLY COLONISED *burp* BACKWATER SYSTEMS, NOTHING SPECIAL. WHERE YOU'RE GOIN BTW?
>B-bleaehfhrshen-df-0165645468.
>UHHUMMM... OH, MY NAVCOMP TELLING ME I'LL BE PASSING THROUGH IT IN ABOUT HALF AN HOUR. WANT ME TO BRING YOU A SOUVENIR?
>N-no, thanks, what about...
>SHIT, SORRY, ME MATE CALLING FROM EARTH ABOUT THAT PHAT ALIEN ARTEFACT DEAL. ANYWAY, BEEN NICE TALKING TO YA BUT GOTTA GO. FLY SAFE AND SEE YOU IN SPACE, COWBOY! HARHARHAR...
>Y-you too...

He hangs up.
You wait till he engages his fancy superliminal drive and disappears.
You check your time remaining until target. It's 100 more years.
You initiate self destruct sequence.
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>>124983123
Did no one think to go out and rescue the poor motherfuckers on those ships. It's going to be way worse when they step out on to their "virgin" world and see shopping malls and fast food joints everywhere.
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>>124983123
>Find a generation ship
>Park my T9 on it
>Move all the cryopods into my cargo bay
>Sell them to the nearest pirate station for a few thousand creds
>Their first memory of waking from their long slumber is being raped while a pirate snorts onionhead off their back.
>Just another day in the 'verse
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>>124960497
>Tfw the next update will render the Robigo run as a shadow of it's former self.


Grind while you can fellas. That's what I plan to do.
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>>124983859
They are supposedly in the interstellar space all the time and allegedly hard to find there.
The lore in this game is all kinds of retarded.
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>>124973346
Earth belowww us!!!!!! Drifting, falling!!!!!
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>>124984080
[MUFFLED DESHI DESHI BASARA IN THE DISTANCE]
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>>124984253
Yeah. The fact that humanity is confined to a tiny sphere while we have drives that can cross the galaxy in what a day's worth of jumping? While that's a fucking hassle for a player it's fuck all in real terms.

Humans should have spread through the whole galaxy with the FSD.
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>buy game on sale for 15 Shekels
>cool im spess mans
>eventually upgrade to Vulture
>wtb pvp
>travel between solar systems
>nobody
>say fuck it and go to reddit
>these fags probably love to talk about where they are and what they do, i'll just go hunt them there
>solo play
>solo play
>PVP IS MEEN
>SOLO PLAYERS UNITE
>"open world is full of griefers"

tfw i wasted my money

Also spess ship controls are a fucking joke in this bullshit game. Vertical and horizontal thrusters are gimped. What's the point of even having them?

Ima go light my candle and pray to RSI. Maybe if i throw more shekels at them i can actually play a decent spess mans game before 2020.
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>>124974809
you can, google ASTRA
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I brought ED on release assuming it was going to be a polished and complete game, played it for a week or so, saw maybe 3 actual players, decided to wait until they release the update that lets you walk around and shit

hear they're releasing this update as a stand alone game or somthing?
how does this work?

how many more sheekels do i need to fork out to land and walk around on spess stations and planets?
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>>124985395
I dunno while lateral thrusters are fairly weak they help a heap with keeping your guns on target and your ship out of the line of their guns.

The pvp is pretty much a joke though, unless you go to a CG. Even then most of the fun targets are probably in solo.
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>>124985395
>tfw i wasted my money
Oh come the fuck on, basic Aurora costs more than this.
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>>124983123
>>124983859
>>124984080
Idiocracy finally gets a sequel.
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>>124985992
It works exactly like addons of the times of old. Ask your dadabout it, if you have one.
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>>124985992
>hear they're releasing this update as a stand alone game or somthing?
how does this work?
This update is an expansion that costs basically as much as the original game. Without it I guess you just don't get the ship upgrades that allow you to land.

>how many more sheekels do i need to fork out to land and walk around on spess stations and planets?
All of them. I don't think there's even a plan on when that will be available. Who even knows if ED will be alive in another year's time.

That said apparently each expansion will give you the previous stuff, so you could wait a few years and come back and get the whole thing for cheap. Again assuming it lasts that long.
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>>124981680
>tfw want to learn FA off in combat
>but in order to do it i have to hit z on my keyboard every single time and reaching from my controller to that is not exactly the best thing in combat
>try to rebind it to the back button on the controller
>no matter what, it pops up the prompt to rebind it, i press the back button, the prompt goes away, and the game doesnt respond to controller input until i move the mouse
Bravo.
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>>124986062
You know, i'm not saying they do't help. I'm just spoiled by Star Citizen and the crazy drift shit you can do in arena commander.

>>124986119
Yup it sure does. I wasn't referring to it as a waste as in im poor though. I bought a hornet and a redeemer.
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>>124986380
>>124986494
So, buy the game again to continue playing?
I think I saw this coming back when I stopped playing.
whatever community there is left now is not going to survive this multiple times.
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>>124986659
>thinking flight assist off makes anything better
>playing with a controller

I bet you solo play too :^)
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>>124986983
>playing with a controller is bad
Its more comfortable for me, and i didnt say it was better, i just want to learn it. And fuck solo play, whats the point of it? I barely see anyone anyways.
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>>124986849
I'm curious what the percentage of players who bought Horizons is. I can only imagine it getting lower each successive season.
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>>124986849
You overestimate the goyim consumer consciousness.
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>>124982912
>>124983123

10 out of fucking 10 m8
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>>124773134
Maybe its just me, but AI condas with two class 1 beam turrets can be a pain in the ass to engage.
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>>124990237
>attack AI anaconda
> 2 class 1 fragmentation cannons
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Just started this game, what should I do? Not keen on collecting shit tier bounties, its a little boring, want to either trade or explore.

Anything viable to do in this regard, recommendations? Have a basic eagle right now.
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>>124996030
once you get a cobra trade rares, grab some cargo space and a good fuel scoop. look up a rares route yourself tho.

easy money, you get to explore, fun
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>>124996234
>>124996345

How do you go about obtaining 400k+ to start off?
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>>124938361
sadly, this is why no one teams up to trade even for a few minutes. When first introduced, you could leave a teammate in a station and just do trade runs to and from that station. Then Ftroop fucking broke it, but the game was so boring no one knew because no one fucking did traded like that and mining was shit.

Its probly still broken and no one gives enough shits to find out and put it up on the forum....not that it would matter because those assholes would just bury bugs.
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>>124996391
400k+ is about 1 hour of bounty hunting in Eagle
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>>124996391
Just get lucky on a few bounties from nav beacon or resource extraction site. Make sure cops are there and just follow them as they get health low and snipe the last few hits in

Leave LHS 3447 if you haven't already.
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>first time flying an anaconda through the letterbox
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https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=209834
>This includes colonists on the ancient generation ships, lost colonies, disappeared scientific expeditions and a host of others. Some will know from our timeline that many thousands of ‘generation ships’ left the safety of Earth beginning in the 24th century onwards, and headed out into what was then largely unknown – with just some data from probes to guide them. The process was completely unregulated, and many were not as well prepared as they should have been. In those days when faster-than-light communication didn’t exist
>faster-than-light communication didn’t exist
I thought in the lore we didn't have FTL comms. Despite the player chat and instant nature of things like fines and powerplay faction changes.
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>>124997780
Before ED came out there weren't any FTL communications in the lore. There's a book called Elite: Legacy that came out around when this game came out that introduces a new communication methods.
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>>124997323
>used to aiming at the middle of the mail slot
>KKRRRRRRRRRRRUNNNNNCHHHHH
>bridge perspective is at the top of the ship
>dragged my underside across the bottom of the slot
>ok, some hull damage... no big deal
>decide to pan around the ship in external camera to get a better view of how far the bridge is from center
>discover the ship's undercarriage is literally ripped right open
>mfw the Anaconda models hull damage
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>>124996391
just go to a nav beacon and bounty hunt. Just started about 3 days ago and I've already gone through about 1.5 million credits from bounty hunting. Got a new ship and shit. Cool stuff.
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>>124997323
>>124998610
get that auto-docker
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>>124997323
>>124998610

does anyone else feel that they should have made the letterbox bigger just for this reason?

i feel like they just designed the letterbox opening and completely forgot the anaconda exists
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>>124998610
>>124998873
It's really fine in an Anaconda, you get used to it.

Just aim for the top of the slot and you won't scrape. Look at where the bridge is in external view, it's way up top.
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>>124998873

The letterbox is fucking huge. You can fit three anacondas through it side by side, and two over-under with a little scraping.

The problem with the conda is that the pilot seat's at the very top of the ship so you may not realize how much ship is directly underneath you.
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>>124998873
What is top/best fighter? FDL? Even with the new shi
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>>124998610
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>>124999414

For PVP? Yes.
For PVE? The FAS, at least until we get better Class 4 hardpoint options.

None of the new ships in 1.5 or Horizons are going to be useful for combat.
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>>124999475
ouch
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>>124999475
Is that damage just random or does it have some connection to where the damage was dealt/what systems are damaged?
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>>124999612
fully kitted out costs less than 100 million? i have 60 right now
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>>125000139
what do you think anonette
>>
>Multi-Crew lets you fly in the same ship with friends, which will up the intensity and camaraderie levels of a joint mission even further! You'll be able to share and alternate control of weapons systems, turrets and flight duties to multiply your effectiveness.
I can't see how the ship systems in Elite have enough depth to justify having multiple people in control.
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>>125000262
Silly me for having some faith in FDev. I swear one day I'll learn.
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>>125000336
Multicrew is just an excuse for forumdads to kidnap other players and drag them across the universe against their will because their own kids won't play with them or were taken in the divorce.
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This looks promising.
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>>124759267
/f/ is strong in here
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>>125000336
They want the Star Citizen audience.
>>
can you do a planetary landing to earth on Horizons?
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>>125000336
what exactly do you differently in star citizen?
>>
>>125001684
In Star Citizen you throw more and more money into a pot and Chris Roberts spits in your face and makes wild promises about "next year".
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>>125001684
>>125001542
I've not played SC so I have no idea how their multicrew works. I guess you get to be a gunner or something. Sounds shit in that game as well.
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>>125001964
Once they release the Squadron 42 campaign thing, they'll technically have met all their kickstarter goals.

>>125002071
Think star wars, where you have ships like the millennium falcon which have crew-operated turrets as well as fighters which are just operated by one person.
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>>124982000
Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS X.

Hotas all the way. Wouldn't want any other pleb control.
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>>124961539
>you are never going to make it in a vulture
So should I just buy an Asp and dad it up until I can afford the FDL?
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>>125006291
Go for a python
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>>125006572
i'll cross that bridge when I come to it, but right now I'm wondering if it would be better to spend this 10million on an asp for trading or a vulture for RES
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>>125006765
I tried the Vulture and found it fucking boring to fly. But then trading is boring as well.
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Simfag that also plays Elite here.

Anyone know if it's possible to use my rudder pedals for yaw axis for shits and giggles? Otherwise I'll just test it out tomorrow. Sleep now.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojZC14XalWs&feature=youtu.be

>yfw bugs are the most interesting thing about planetary exploration
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>>125009094
Thargoids WHEN?
>>
>tfw can't play as a ruthless corporate agent on a major corporation's payroll
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>>125009094
>tfw you discover a necron tomb world
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I-I did it....I pre ordered Horizon. Also what ship skin should I buy
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>>125008696

The control bindings interface doesn't visibly differentiate between different controllers, but it actually does handle them. It'll bind pedal Z-axis to yaw just fine even though it doesn't specify which device the axis belongs to in the interface.

I'm using a set of CH pedals for yaw right now. Works great.

Also works for the SRV in Horizons so I can use a toe brake as a gas pedal.
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>>125009561
The Braben's face texture skin.
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>>125009561

Cobra. Your country's flag.

I love shooting down ships from countries I don't like.
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>>125009608
>Also works for the SRV in Horizons so I can use a toe brake as a gas pedal.

That sounds pretty fucking neat. Already have SRV throttle bound to my HOTAS though, might change that around because that setup sounds fun.
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>>125009682
I actually really want to buy the Polish one because of the red and white color but I don't want to be associated with those people
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>>125010362
Go for the pirate skins.
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>>125010362
>Polish flag in FD
Does not compute. Poland can not into space.
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>>125009890

I actually mapped the forward only reverse toggle to throttle negative on my HOTAS. It turns the analog throttle into a digital control, but I don't need all my analogs in the SRV anyway.

End result is toe brake = gas and the throttle acts like shift into reverse when pulled back past the halfway point.

Hand brake is mapped to the other toe brake since the SRV doesn't have wheel brakes anyway.
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>>125010465
nah son, they look pretty gay that skin is like the flaming dragon and fire shirts /v/ wears. I just bought the ASP ones cause it's the only ship I've been using since I got it from the black fri sale
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I am making a lot of very profitable long hauls from Robigo and outfitted my little cobra with a good FSD. I've decided to skip the Diamondback and most likely also skip the ASP to go straight for the Python. Is this recommended? I'm about halfway now. If I keep on grinding, I'll have the Python at a discount this weekend.

tl;dr is the stock Python any good?
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>>125012201
The Asp can do the smuggle runs faster for cheaper. I'd suggest grabbing one, getting it equipped for long jumping and when you get around 100mil, trade it for a python and max that bitch out.
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>>125012348
Sounds like a fucking plan!
Any tips on making the Asp a fast jumper?
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Is Robigo better than Fehu or are they about the same?
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>>125014180
They're the same except who you're getting friendship points from. Robigo feeds into the Alliance and a little bit of the Federation and Fehu into the Empire.
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>>125012201
Whats the story with Robigo? Does it just have ridiculous missions or something?
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>>125014180
>>125014278
I only found 800k missions from Fehu, and i'm Broker.
Currently travelling to Robigo to see if it's different.
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>>125014516
Robigo and Fehu are the new Sothis.

Smuggling missions ranging from 3-15 mill, standard transport 1 mill each, courier missions 100-500k each.

Got to get friendly with them if you want the high paying ones though.
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>>125014516
Both Robigo and Fehu are so far from the main cluster of inhabited systems that (as delivery mission payouts are calculated on distance) they have absurdly big payouts. We're talking 1mil for 2 tons of coffee.

Only downside is it's a 360 LY trip each way, so you stock up on missions first, then complete them all and head back.
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>>125014667
Nope, not even getting any on the board.
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>>125014706
>>125014709
What the smallest cargo capacity you would recommend for Robigo?
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Is landing on earthlikes even planned for S2?
Submarines?
walking?
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>>125015139
At least a cobra. Req. is an Asp or higher. Make sure your cobra has a good fuel scoop and are able to jump at least 18-20lys.
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>>125015139

First off, make sure you're Merchant or above or you're not gonna get anything good. Cobra or anything above that is fine, fuel scoop in mandatory.

ASP is the ideal ship due to the decent cargo hold and the big jump range.
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>>125014667
I've had 1,8m on Robigo with a rank lower than Broker when I first started.
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How common are the 3-5 million smuggle missions? I've only found one after many relog resets.
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Does anyone know any decent rare-trade routers to fly with my cobra?
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>>125015156
>Submarines?

Mybe, just fittle with the ground mechanism, biggest thing would be to make sea graphics and the effects you have when going really deep, like crushing depths and such.

>walking?

Hah, nope you will just ride a buggy in earthlike planets like in all other just more trees and greener stuff around you.
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I just grinded my way to an Orca and bought it. Just to see the world burn. top kek.
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Does government (aside from Anarchy) have any impact in the game?
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>>125018198
Nope
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>>125018318
new dad
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