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>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit

>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.
- Check your ping with the servers: http://cloudharmony.com/speedtest-latency-for-aws:ec2-us-east-1

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.

>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5

>iCBT2 Sign-Up (Closed): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.

>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Wednesday, December 9th, 23:00 PM (EST).

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Tree of Savior is somewhat unique in that the games translation is heavily supplemented by fan contributions provided at IMC's offical Github. Is this genius or laziness? It's both!

>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0
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First for IMC-tier of programming skills.
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Westerners were a mistake
iCBT2 was a mistake
Stats were a mistake
Class advancement was a mistake
Action MMORPG was a mistake
Ragnarok was a mistake
ToS was a mistake
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>>124632964
Fanart by ZUN?
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>>124634358
It's the Elets.
For some mysterious reason their shockwave attack heals you.
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can't get the free xp shit to work but the class advancement does
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>>124634702
It's
fixed
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>Was able to become a 200 druid due to the exploit, basically all I wanted
>Try a transform STR build
>its shit

Well that was quick.

Dropped.
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>>124634752
ripip
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>>124634702
How exactly did you get class advancement to work? For some reason just adding the line to the hotkey.xml does nothing for me.
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Xth for kissposting
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>>124634949
just copied the line from last thread

put it in place of the LHand line attack, the one with C and it worked
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>>124632964
>Previous thread
>>124589606
>>124589606
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Reminder to scold all kissposters.
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>>124634614
As a follow up on skill levels, attributes locking to circles of skills are also pitifully low.

Pyromancer should get an attribute to increase number of hits required before the fireball is moved locked to Circle 2 and the attribute only going 3 (3 hits required then it gets pushed freely) on C2, and maxing at 10 on C3.

Linker attributes are largely uninspired garbage.

Pyromancer's Staff attribute is trash needs to have about 10x as many levels to it and a timer on it

Quarrel Shooter needs another attribute to increase to Caltrops damage after bleed was removed. Simple solution:
+1 Hit per Attribute Level - Max 10 levels, time sink 30 minutes (+7minutes a level) + gold ofc

Conceal - Should max at 1, attribute for length
Detonate Traps either scale explosions with level or attribute for it

Punji Stake- Knockup but NOT knock 'away' attribute

Flame Ground - AoE increase attribute (Since there's no other way to increase the range of it btu decrease the time it's up)
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the xp penalty should be dropped so we could level at Tenet until 100+. Tenet was fuck as fuck and the only place that resembled RO
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>>124634438
>Westerners were a mistake
Actually if it wasn't for us, the kOBT would release with massive exploits.

The Koreans players can't test for shit, or they keep the exploits to themselves. That and the fact nobody plays the game anymore over there.
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So, whats the best build for an elementalist into warlock? Is it wiz3>ele3>warlock?
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>>124635394
>nobody plays the game anymore
Why though?
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>>124635368
This retard.
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>made 4 million in 30 minutes
God I love Dragoon.
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>>124634758
Druid Transform is good if you get Panta movement speed buff.

Also Carnivory and Sterea Troph.
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Bundled up in pajamas, a blanket, and with some hot chocolate for the daily kissposting!
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>>124635001
Oh that's great then, thanks. I didn't much care for Warlock or Featherfoot anyway. I hope someone from /tosg/ will carry my support ass through 3 circles of chrono Any chance you know if Back Masking works right on the kcbt?
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>>124635368
>fuck as fuck
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>>124635520
Not enough grind.
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Hey /tosg/, I'm the guy who tried to write down all the bugs and other QoL changes needed I encountered. (took some of them straight from the general, credits to the anons who posted).

Sadly, I didn't have time to further test other classes, and such, was left with a incomplete list.

I'll be honest - I never used a google docs file, or anything similar, so if you think it would be worth reporting all these at the end of the beta, any kind anon (with time on his hands) could try and make one, post these, and complete any other bugs they encountered.

That is, if you believe IMC cares. Personally, I don't want a DOA game - especially one that managed to entertain me in a long while.

http://pastebin.com/yMZpAA0q
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>>124635520
Because the game is a massive clusterfuck, and a boring slog to get to classes that are even remotely fun. The devs can't even decide if they want it to be a questing game or a grinding game, and instead of trying to lean one way they just hamper both avenues with low amounts of quests and low spawn rates and stats that hamper the ability to aoe grind at all.
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>>124635520
My Korean friends says that they got disappointed by the game, and since they get 2/3 new mmo releases per month, they can afford to be picky.

The main issues were:
- Auto-attack centric gameplay (ToS is nicknamed Tree of Auto-attacks).
- Linear progression and too many mindless blue quests.
- Lack of gear variety. They want something similar to Diablo 2/3, with more game changing modifiers.
- Dumb monster AI, lack of challenge.
- Incredibly boring dungeons.
- Poor optimization

When he actually told me that, I was like "hm, so that's exactly the same feedbacks we westerner gave to IMC".

IMC reply to quest progression:

Q) Following the quests seems like a single path which only grows on and on.

A) TOS has a lot of quests prepared for the players, but players can still have access to most maps without proceeding these quests. Also there are maps which are unrelated to the main quests, so the players can take different path if they wish not to proceed with those side campaigns. Addtionally, I am a lvl 178 Barbarian Test Server who has not rescued a single goddess and has only done my class advancement quests.

We think of quests as a way to learn about the ToS universe and a huge tutorial in order to be familiar with game mechanics. From now on, we are planning to make quests to be slightly more focused on the gimmicks.

http://tos.nexon.com/news/gmnews/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=33+
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>>124635043
Still doesn't seem to work for me. Can you please pastebin your .xml?
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Was nice to play with you (Van and Loli) guys. See you next beta /tosg/
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>>124635347

Linker attrib are ok. I picked linker for my r6 and after i got that earth damage bonus attrib, Lv 5 earthquake has been a best. i can kill the mobs of downtown with 1 hangman letharquake.
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>>124635347
Divine Stigma: Duration - Increase max level to 10

Melstis: Moving during Channel - Max 5, at max movespeed is normal. Time gate or something and increase SP cost

Statue Zemnya - Max 10, -1% SP cost of skills in Aura per Level
Statue: Laima - Increase Radius, Max X, +1% radius per level

All statues should have 2 attributes minimum, one for Decrease cooldown by 10 seconds and the other for an alternate use (like listed above), you should onyl be allowed to have one on at a time. Alternatively just lower the default CD and have the CD be the tradeoff on attribute.


Monk is actually the only good example of attributes done right I can think of.

>>124635895
Super accurate. Unfortunately that feedback from the devs really does't feel okay.
I've still got high hopes for ToS but most of my hopes right now are on R1EMU instead of the dev team unfortunately.
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>>124635930
pastebin.com/1pp1ctKq

it's for mousemode, you'll end up with my hotkeys but w/e

the quest is set up for fletcher right now, go change the number
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>>124636105
After seeing their responses and the sheer amount of time it took them to fix anything at all, I have absolutely zero hope for the game.
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>>124636218
Well, it's always possible that they're playing it close to the chest with a lot of the data on classes/etc and intend to change a lot of it up before OBT, but given kOBT has already been scheduled for december we'll know sooner rather than later at least.
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>>124635895
It is unfortunate that the best way to lvl up is doing quest for cards and then saving them up during the spike to ease up the grinding. Cause right now at 180-185 the only real way to lvl up is to quest or solo the pq. The mob density seems to have disapeared. If only only Roxona was like demon prison d 2 and dullahan didnt freeze up and was more active the end game would be much more enjoyable,
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>>124635572
I plan going Chrono1->Alch1 myself (but I think I'll get more dps at rank7 and 8), but I can help you with my subpar pyro2linker if you wish
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>>124636413
Tfw you miss the MMO era with rarer quests every 10s or so level that are not advertised, you have to get knowledge, speak to unmarked NPC and complete the quest by thinking. Gave you a unique reward worth the time investment. Was fun and challenging.

Nowadays MMO quests should be renamed "chores" or "quests", because they stopped being fun since 10 years.
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>>124636494
Sure, at release we'll level together. It will be fun. Going Chrono 1 for the cute costume?
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>>124636413
Now imagine doing that for another 300 levels
Keep in mind that Egnomes give you the same experience as trees almost and the mobs are 100 levels apart.

Imagine only getting 5k/mob with that same density at 250.
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>>124636151
Thanks. I still can't seem to get it to work, though.
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>>124636904
>>124636413

Implying that's not intended game design to make you buy 1hour exp bonus potions from the cash shop.
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>>124637085
tfw even the exp potions only scale linearly
tfw your +5,000 EXP per kill pots are underwhelming by level 300

tfw none of the devs know higher order math and just winging it.
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>>124637026
Infinite quest cards exploit has been fixed. That's why it doesnt work.

You can still do the class advancement tho.


<HotKey ID="FreeClass" Name="FreeClass" DownScp="control.CustomCommand(&quot;CLICK_CHANGEJOB_BUTTON&quot;, 2005)" UpScp="None" Key="C" UseShift="NO" UseAlt="NO" UseCtrl="NO" OnEdit="NO" />
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>>124637257
tfw the person who initially posted it deleted his post so we don't get mass hysteria but everyone keeps reposting it anyway
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>>124637257
I think 6 ranks is max now
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>>124637026
just copypaste the whole thing into your hotkey for mousemode

it has to work bruv
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>>124636621
I think we can have the best of both worlds. I mean the quests we have these days are useful in practice, they can give direction to players or just a nice little bonus for killing something they would have anyway. They've gotten really mindless and awful though, you're right.
First we need to get rid of generic "interact with x" quests, they aren't fun and aren't what you'd be doing anyway. Killing six boars or collecting 12 boar livers or whatever is fine, because you'd probably be killing them anyway. It's fine to have a "Go to the end of this area and grab the bauble" quests because it ties in exploration, though. Call these sorts of things tasks, or chores or whatever like you said.
Then have quests in the style of old Runescape like how you described, being much more significant, interesting, and rewarding.
Finally, make sure tasks/chores aren't mandatory. Plain grinding is a workable alternative but these days you do need something more. Get creative with the idea of grinding and trick the player into thinking they aren't doing it. Most people here killed a few hundred trees in DP2, that was a grind. If they were positioned in a dungeon-like formation during a quest (not task) or something and we were told to get to the end for a super special reward, it wouldn't feel like grinding. Along with that there's also the usual dungeons, maybe PvP experience, etc etc.
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>>124636621
No thanks I quit iRo during comodo since it was boring to wait on field bosses and the only places to farm effecitvely was glastheim and turtle island.
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>>124637257
Yes, that's the thing I've been trying to get to work, but it just doesn't, for some reason. No matter what buttons I map it to, it doesn't seem to activate ingame.
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>>124637479
The problem is that even those types of quests get broken down into the same exact shit.

Furthermore, it still means that this quest becomes borderline necessary when creating an alt.
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>>124636652
>Going Chrono 1 for the cute costume?
Yes, it's just way too cute (wish I could use pink boots like the master though).

I didn't really like Sorcerer and can't play without Haste now, too.
Rank7 and 8 I'm planning to go dps, but if only one circle is enough I can go Chrono2 with the other.
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>>124637381
He reposted it afterwards.
I thought he just wanted to try it out himself, but apparently he had some other plan in mind.
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>>124637773
I like to share.
Beta ends in a day, so why not?

I would obviously not spread such an exploit in an OBT/release.

Shitstorm is good, forces IMC to fix shit, since these exploits were reported for weeks, but they ignored them.
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>>124637773
>>124638041
Also I removed the first post because I mistakenly added jobquest id in it insteand of jobclass id.
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>>124638041
Good luck with begging for second hand bug tips in the obt
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With all the exploiting going on, does anyone know what those users were doing early on to increase their melee range?
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>>124638041
Just let it all burn, they fix next to fucking nothing and ignore all kinds of problems and feedback.
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I can't play for now, please, someone post a webm of the Psychokino's c2 and c3 skills in action? We had more info about Centurion than of that class. If possible, test Raise and Gravity Pole on duel. With and wihtout Dispeller scrolls.
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This is a collection in Constructor Chapel B1.
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>>124638398
I wonder why they ignore all complaints about the game thou. It's like they don't give a shit about it being dead on arrival.
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>>124638325
I will not care during OBT. Playing legitly is more fun. Still, sorry for ninja'ing your tips, Dmn, that was cunty on my part.
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>>124637660
That's true, but really I mostly said make it a quest in the interest of being concise. You could add a variation of dungeons or what have you under a different name as a basic element of the game and be good. Just have a task that's "Go get the whatever from the end of tree castle" as well as a few that are "Kill trees in tree castle" "Get tree boogers from trees in tree castle". They're mindless but you'll complete the basic ones while doing the first one, so you'll hardly notice. It will feel like one larger, more rewarding task. The more I think about it the more of a problem the generic tasks sound like, though. Now you need to make tree castle and what not just so you can have these group of tasks seem less awful. Again though, there are a lot of benefits to having them as well.

There are two things that need to be solved to replace what tasks/chores bring: Easily accessible direction for the player (where to go next, what options are available) and short term goals within the long term goal (kill 30 trees for 1% of a level is a much easier goal than kill 3000 trees for one level)

>>124637738
I'm convinced they'll have costume dyes in the cash shop. There's no way they won't.
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>>124638398
>market crashes and eats items
>hey imc, look what's happening
>thanks for your report! we're looking at it!
>they fix 6 days later
>1 day after fix market breaks again
>hey imc, look, agains
>thanks for your report! we're looking at it
>6 days again to fix
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one of you koreanboos post the exe/dll files for the client and i'll see if i can start extracting ipfs
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>>124638759
>exe/dll
Is just the .ipf fine?
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>>124638539
Because if they listen to all the feedback they'd have to scrap a ton of stuff and take it back to design, as well as fixing a shit ton of code. Instead, they want to push for release.

>>124638685
>people literally cannot progress in the quests to level and test the game because bosses crash them
>takes them a fucking week to fix it

It's really been an amazing ride.
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>>124638581
>I'm convinced they'll have costume dyes in the cash shop. There's no way they won't.

There was a female npc with a recolored cleric outfit (red dye) in a story quest on Orsha.
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>>124638532
>templeshooter card
what does it gives?
inb4
>STR+1
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>>124638759
This please. I'm not good enough to decompress/decrypt their new format thingy without the binaries.
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>>124638886
I'll have to find 3 more collections to see. I'll check the other two floors.
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>>124638759
I believe in you anon

>>124638853
There you go. It's possible they were just re-using assets or wanted class masters to be somehow different, but dyes are such an easy money maker, and we've already seen they're doing hair dyes.
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>>124638840
no
i already have ipfs
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>>124635895

http://pastebin.com/MRYczpMz
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>>124639194
k, tell me which files you need
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>>124638853
Many NPCs with currently unattainable hairstyles. Also Chronomancer Master's shoe colors and different eye colors in some trailer videos.
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Tfw Doddler himself is spreading the exploit hotkey (with an incorrect jobclassID to boot)

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/exploit-infinite-quest-rewards-and-unrestricted-class-switching/123654/295
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>>124639497
Wow, been quite a while since I've seen Doddler.

When did he stop with iRO again? After renewal wasn't it?
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>>124639497
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Who the fuck is doddler. Another redditor shiteater lurking tosg?
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>>124639737
Not sure, but he's definitely browsing vg and reddit.

>>124639791
>Who the fuck is doddler. Another redditor shiteater lurking tosg?

Underrated faggot detected.
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>>124639497
>incorrect jobclassID
He edited it. He's a responsible guy.
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>>124639407
i don't know what files the korean client has
they are using two separate anticheats that might have moved shit around
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>>124639914
Tfw he's among us right now.
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>>124640038
It's okay, on 4chin, nobody knows you're a doddler.
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>>124639891
>Underrated
I didn't play RO. I played another mmo at that time.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>124638432
Magnetic force is shit, doesn't even gather that many monsters and has a very small aoe range. The damage also sucks.

Raise is fun since it levitates enemies and they become immobile, but they can still place fireballs and other skills similar to it down and inflict damage on you. You can use icewall+psychic pressure on them even when they're levitating.

Gravity pole forces nearby enemies to the pole, making them immobile, but they have to already be very close for the skill to work. Enemies from behind you can easily disrupt your skill. Does a bit of damage, only lasts 5 seconds, but it lines the monsters up.
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>>124639791
howunderage.ru
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>>124639791
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>>124640038
>>124640195
tfw this could be him >>124638759
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>>124640371
>>124640374
Fuck off toddler
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>>124640371
>.ru
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>>124640353

That's cool. Magnetic Force really needs a buff, bigger aoe and some multihits. Also, i've heard that monster's can resist it, they should fix it too. thanks for the info, but i still want to see cool vids
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Who is Tittler?
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>>124640662
http://xn--80acbo6d9a.xn--p1ai/
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>>124639932
so you want all my exe and dll files?
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>>124640836
Yes. Don't forget explorer.exe and system32.dll.
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>>124640787
Very active contributor to the Ragnarok Online scene, with stats calculator, database and a shitload of other things.

Having him around for ToS will make the game so much better for everyone. Implying IMC doesn't totally fuck it up.

Tosbase Flash is the current Doddler of ToS though. Honorable mentions to Fate and Disc tho.
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>>124639497
>>124639914
>TFW I cant get it to work.
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Dmn, did you report the channel switching boss reward abuse? I would but I'm lazy.
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I don't want to play games that aren't Cute of Savior.
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>>124641105
Use it on a character that isn't r6.
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so did these lazy niggas only ..like.. disable the RESTART_Q thing ? but other commands still working
9/11 lazy
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>>124641453
"Hello,

Thanks for abusing report. We already fixed it with changing some files in the server."
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>>124640836
basically anything that looks important in release
i don't need the music or any of that bullshit

it should be <50 Mb

don't include CheatLogData or extradump* or stackdump*
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>>124641402
I tried. Pressing C does nothing.
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>>124641453
You've seen this entire beta. What the fuck did you expect from them, actual interaction and intent to change things for the better?
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>>124641684
Use the right code, you mongoloid.

Also keyboard mode.
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>>124641208
No, I don't know of this bug.
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Will I ever see /tosg/ anons again?
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>>124641873
Basically during a quest boss fight, if you channel switch before killing the boss, you'll end up with boss drop. The quest is not cleared, so you can rinse and repeat.

You can make mad dosh this way.
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>>124641532
>i don't need the music
Sorry, I don't help plebs.
Give me few minutes.
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>>124642009
Of course, we're here forever.
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>tfw paladin is a shitty melee/support/mage hybrid instead of a badass holy avenger purging demons
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>>124642049
It's still boring as all hell, though.
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>>124638532
Bonus for this one is HP+45
B2 is the same (Kani card + 8 orbs), gives MP+18
B3 has only 6 orbs, but also Sapphire and Regina Crossbow, gives HPregen+5
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>>124642241
You summed up ToS. The game where in kCBT1 it was more viable to channel switch to find blue mobs (before the spawn rate nerf), than actually play the game.
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Haven't really paid attention to the current beta, has imc fixed the lags and other issues? How's the game now that people actually got to test higher level stuff?
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>>124642009
Don't worry, I'll be back.
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>>124642238
There was a new skill added to clerics that looked like a paladin skill, but we'll never see it from the koreans because no one cares about paladins.
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>>124642278
these non % bonuses.

>>124642373
>has imc fixed

HAHAHAH
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>>124642342
Yeah, it's a shame what a tedious slog this clusterfuck is. It's really cute, but still has so many issues that I just can't see them getting off their lazy asses and fixing them.
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>>124642342
How has the game progressed since the first kCBT anyways?
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>>124642495
it's not a paladin skill, during the last trailer you can see it in a skillbar with zero other paladin skills

i'm more mad about no 2h sword holy fire purging shit
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>>124642373
>IMC
>fix
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What are /tosg/'s favorite tracks ? Except Pristine
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>>124642571
Shy updates here and there. But compared to what still needs fixing, it's a few drops in a ocean of piss.

It feels like IMC is understaffed. Also there is NO WAY WHATSOEVER that ToS is ready for kOBT this month. Nexon doesn't care, but it will seriously be Tortanic level of shitstormery.
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>>124642009
I'm always here.
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>>124642571
They increased the EXP rate added more classes and nerfed everything that isnt the swordsman tree. They attempted to balance archers but ended up making them just a pain in the ass to play as your first character.
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>>124642747
I don't like my MMOs to have music, I usually just turn it off entirely
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>>124642683
Disappointing. No rank 7 class has any synergy with Paladin either. Just remove the class already IMC.
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Considering the rate they're making maps and quests, you'd think they could spare some time on balance and fun.
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shit dead game, stop making generals of this shit
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>>124642935
the only "synergy" there is for now is conviction to buff up zaibas from krivis

and smite i guess is decent for a monk build to just smack demons
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>>124642373
>imc
>fixing anything
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>>124642828
>nerfed everything that isn't the swordsman tree

But Cleric builds are better than everything else. If they wanted Swordsmen to be the best then they did a shitty job, because everything pretty much sucks ass except for Barb into Corsair or Hoplite into Doppel.
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Hi /tosg/!

What are some good R5-R7 late game classes to compliment a C3 Highlander!
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>>124642747
Viento.
Fell in love the moment I first heard it, and I still can't get enough of it.
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>>124643038
How much elemental resist debuff does Conviction add? Is it even worth it? Feels like it will be a meager non scaling bonus.

Fuck I hate this flat damage bulltshit so much. Never hated a games mechanics as much as ToS.
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>>124642747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzjRFaHCVkA

I love this track so much. They really need to make the bosses this theme appears in a lot more balls to the wall.
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We are all talking about balance, but frankly, balance is the most easy thing to fix.

I mean, they should really care for maps, skill mechanics, effects and quests for now, since balance can be done after that just by changing numbers, moving skills to classes/circles and via new attribs.

Ofc we knwo that they will fuck this up in the end, but is not that hard to understand what is the priority.
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>>124643072
Yes but Clerics were even better. Clerics are great. Swordsmen are great. Wizards are okay. Archers are shit.
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>>124643030

PERIA WHEN
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>>124642790

They have another game that just ended their beta called Wolfknights. IMC is a typical KR mmo factory.
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I almost feel bad for them, the game would be a nightmare to balance without just completely breaking everything everywhere.
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>>124635895
>-auto-attack centric gameplay (ToS is nicknamed Tree of Auto-attacks)
Confirmed for dropping the game before reaching level 90 with his barblander
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>>124643207
>Swordsmen are great

If you follow these two specific builds with this specific gear and ignore everything else, then yeah, they're great. But everything outside of those two class combinations is dogshit that does lower damage than wizard and archer classes.
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>>124643221
Isnt WK kind of dead tho? It didnt generate anywhere near the attention ToS did. They should focus all they have on ToS. Clearly they bit mroe than they could chew, even if one can appreciate an almost simulatenous western release.
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how hard would the game be if every time you die you respawn in Klamidia with all red gear
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>>124643189
The priority is obviously fixing a bug that lets people circumvent the boring slog of the game in a beta test so players can no longer test different skills and different classes.

Fixing the actual game? Fuck that shit, that isn't how IMC rolls.
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>>124642747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLUD6SQh55w

I kinda wish the game had more biomes available. This track would had fitted some desert planes/oasis.
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>>124643403
>Klamidia
Lost it.

It would make Priest with Resurection in high demand. Class interdependencies is great in MMOs, it brings the community together.

Fuck this fast food solo mmo nonsense that WoW democratized.
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>>124643403

A bit I guess. Let's go with this Everytime you die, all your gear drops and you lose exp both in class and base lvl
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>>124637257
So no more ways to get free xp cards?
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>>124643262
Their goals should be to make every class fun and playable rather than equally strong. I wouldn't care if Pyro-linker was worth two of any other class if Cryo wasn't such a bad option, mounts shouldn't disable half your skill tree and also archers.

>>124643403
Not harder, just more annoying.
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>>124643351

Judging from what I read(which is not much), reception is okay for a KR only early beta mmo. Nothing in the range of TOS(obviously) but okay for a new KR mmo.
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>>124642747
Best song coming through https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdv2rC_zzBw
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>>124643601
So far nope, but I'm sure Dmn or someone else will find a workaround, since they applied a quick fix, they didn't actually fix the core issues.
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>>124643403
>Every time you die you lose one "like"
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>>124643573
It's funny that it would be worse if you only lost job exp.

>>124643601
[TreeTip] : You can do essentially anything with those commands and unless they patch the whole thing people will save them for RMT in OBT/release
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>>124643328
Thats not entirely true, every class tree has at least one path that does stupid damage. It's when you look at it in comparison to everything else other classes get you realize Swordsmen have it the best off.

Swordsmen can be built in a variety of ways and not be completely awful unless you pick Rodelero or something.
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featherfoot videos when? I can't wait to see my menstrual explosion waifu on action.
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Yet another exploit surfacing:

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/exploit-hidden-frames/124194

IMC PLS.
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>>124641820
Thanks m8.
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>>124643658
I fully agree. Right now I think players are fighting against limited resources to use their skills and strange and poorly thought out skill design decisions. Right now all classes are more or less boring by intent of balance... I don't think a single job you unlock makes you feel "wow, this is great"... and that's a big issue. You never feel strong.
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>>124643735
Im aware you can do a lot with those commands, but you need to know struct of command and parameters needed to be passed to work. And i don't know any of them
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/exploit-hidden-frames/124194/2
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>>124635034
Kyun is waifu material
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>>124643403
How about this:

Every time you die and accept/timeout, you respawn in the Klap with red gear.

BUT!

If someone princess carries you to a goddess statue, you will revive with no penalties!
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>>124644052
YOU CAN CHANGE HAIR
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>>124644079
>I don't think a single job you unlock makes you feel "wow, this is great"... and that's a big issue. You never feel strong.

Sadhu does.
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>>124643709
Guards start attacking you if you have < -10 likes.
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>>124644073
HOW
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>>124644264
And they nerfed it already. GG.
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>>124644212
Sound like real life!
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>>124643709
>>124644271
>to get a Like you must Kiss
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>>124643132
Corsair.
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>>124644052
What do you mean surfacing?
That faggot Dmn was posting this shit 3 weeks ago.
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You know i actually cant find the terms of services anywhere on the tos website.
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>>124637257
why dont you guys just dump this games shitty lua list
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>exploits in closed beta

QUICK, EVERYONE LOSE YOUR SHIT
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>>124644520
Why don't you just download IPFSuite?
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jCBT IS ALREADY ON GOING WHY ARE THERE NO R34 FUCK
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>>124644568
These exploits are so amateur not even prototypes have them.
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>>124644598
Pixiv
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>>124644408
>faggot Dmn
#SlayTheGay
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>>124644598
The game isn't doing very I well, I doubt any worthwhile artist will waste time drawing ToS porn.
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>>124644568
I'm just waiting for someone to make a Kelly comic with "honest hard-working players" and a crying statue of liberty.
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Kek, they should really give us more 2 weeks. That crap that was found in the extension beat out everything that was found on the first 3 weeks,
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so is the game just completly broken shit or does it just have issues that can be fixed if imc stops being lazy?
I really wanted tos to be good
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>>124644768
Wasnt there a doujin artist who wanted to make a doujin but the game wouldnt run on his craptop so he moved on to other things?
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>Heh heh I'm gonna exploit the shit out of this game to teach IMC a lesson hehehehe
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>>124644859
Game is completely broken and needs to revamp EVERYTHING. That's said I had fun while it lasted.
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>>124644859
>IMC
>fixing anything ever

It's broken shit and will stay that way. Sorry mate. It's cute at least though, so you could probably play with some people here next beta before people get sick of what a tedious, broken, directionless slog it is.
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>>124644598

Wait until after it ends.
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>>124645010
>That's said I had fun while it lasted.
Same.The only annoyance was channel crashing. I don't care about memelords changing their hair or gritaposting or even multiclassing-into-centurion.
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notes on Incineration so far for my fellow aspiring Plague Doctor friends

INCINERATION
Incinerate enemies with status ailments. The duration of incineration increases depending on the number of status ailments on the enemy.
Level 1 (Damage 1051) (Special Damage 68%) (Base duration 5 seconds)
-20 second cd
-target must have a debuff to use Incineration "Level 5 is more than enough in my opinion"
(so he thinks maxing the # of debuffs your character has for Incineration isn't worth it)
-level 1 duration is 2 seconds. +1 for each new level (so level 5 is 6 seconds)
-1 debuff = +2 seconds regardless of Incineration level (no limit to number of debuffs)
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>>124644859

>tos
>good
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfEnsjvLfIQ

IMC PLS
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>>124641532
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wjengqg98vxg3p8/New%20folder.rar?dl=0
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>>124645016
If people keep memeposting this kiss shit then I'd rather play with reddit and br's
Also the smug anime girl meme makes it pretty clear I should disregard whatever you say
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>>124645278
Chris-chan, this was already known for weeks here.
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>>124645239
Zalciai/Incineration confirmed Meta.

Zalciai has similar CD (20s), is cheap and easy to use, can tags plenty of mobs with it.
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Wasn't RO beta like this, too?

I remember there were several exploits you could do because the server accepted editted packets without checking if the action was valid.

It seems Kim Hakkyu still hasn't learned how to write a server software from scratch.
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Unsurprisingly the retards calling for bans are the same idiots who posted that the EXP was totally fine and that they had no trouble leveling (With the disclaimer that they only made it to 130 so far.)
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>>124645278
we've known about all the dumb lua bugs and hair shop for like 1month+ assuming you follow this thread, why is this a big deal now?
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>>124645421
Okay, can you fuck off to Reddit without them continuing? Your personality is fucking obnoxious
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>>124644598
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=53080827

how do you turn frames into webms, I never learned that shit. anyway

>tfw you can't use stabbing on rogue tits
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>>124645421
There is no need to be upset.
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>>124645434
F-Fine.
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>>124645523
I'd post a smug anime girl but I'm not as obnoxious as you :^
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>>124645716
But I haven't posted a single image in this thread
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>>124645501
Why IMC didn't fix it if it's been know for weeks?
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>>124645478
How the fuck are they 130? I work 50 hours a week, spend time with friends and play bloodborne dlc and still managed to get lvl 200s on 2 ARCHERS.
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>>124645253
Ebin xd
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>>124645434
same for the faggot posting his chrono-mancer slut
like he is the first faggot on the world to ever try out that shit class

Like 2/3 of the posts on /tosg/ are attention whores, I bet they're keep posting shit even when the beta is over from stuff no one cares about.
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People played fucking ragnarok online 2, and that was complete trash, this game should hopefully stand a bit of a better chance. The potential is there to make a non-bad game out of it at least.
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>CheatLogData in game's root folder

How come I just noticed this now lol
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>>124645450
is Pandemic single target? Also how does Incineration get cast? Is it like an aoe that spread to nearby units or what?
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>>124643484
>>124645016
>game was so fukin boring xD i was so done like every1 else we all agree it sux big time
>fukin expoitin like crazy fuckin dumb game company XD HAHAHAHA i don even care dis game suxxxx lmao im expoitin cuz i hate dis game :P
>WTF why would THEY FIX the EXPLOYUD i was usin to NOT HAVE ANY FUN in dis game fukin retard IMC i hate dis shit even mor now definitely not playin PREORDER CANCELLED
>AMIRITE GUIEZ ? WE ALL fuckin hated dis game all da time xD o someone replyd to my kiss bait :^) hehe
>the anonymous hacker known as 4chan wins again
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>>124646086
Incineration is multi target, it's a pbaoe. A bit like Zaibas, except that it doesn't linger on the ground.
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>>124645814
Probably because it wasn't reported :^)
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>>124645421

All in all I honestly think /tosg/ was one of the better, more civil threads as far as /vg/ MMO threads go, we had a good run and I hope it stays that way at release. The kiss stuff is mostly harmless IMO and it's just a few people, though I agree they should keep it to themselves.

If you think this is bad you've clearly never been to TERA, XIV, any of the cancer weeaboo ERP MMO generals. /rog/ is aight though.
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>>124645867
That's nothing

I got shot in the face by a gang of hassidic jews right before the beta, cornered and anally raped by a pack of stray dogs that somehow managed to shit down my throat, fell down some stairs and landed on my back, threw up in a geyser of blood, shit, and vodka all over myself, and was dragged into my computer room, and while I was being beaten by several arab terrorist suicide bombers, I still managed to jack off to Grita and level 3 full SPR archers to 200.
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>>124645278
>100 iCoins Required
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>>124645867
niggas can't even manage the EXP cards or some shit

or too retarded and can't clear simple linear quests
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>>124646012
It lists my //pings and //fps
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>>124643164
Conviction lowers resistance by 100 for 5 seconds. It has a 25 second cooldown and 2 charges. It's garbage.
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>>124646232
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>>124646459
Apparently it lists every // command you use in the chat.
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>>124646327
I remember misclicking the tera general and was fucking 90% erp 10% about some shit in their life and 0% about the game. That made me rethink about generals in general
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>>124646327
>The kiss stuff is mostly harmless IMO and it's just a few people, though I agree they should keep it to themselves.
This fucking garbage is annoying and only invites more shitposting. Worst thing is that mods don't respond to reports at all.
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>>124646542
Figured as much. IMC is eternally clueless.
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>>124645972
Problem is RO2 didn't have 7 years of development and paid trips all over the world for their staff to gather data.

ToS has been a huge money sink for a while, and if it doesn't start producing money soon the project may die sooner than we all think.
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/v3yqpaeeif/

Plague Doc build.

I was gonna test this build out but too bad it was patched. Hopefully they fix bokor and pardoner....
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>>124646327
Kissing is adorable. It's a very cute game.
The only person who went overboard with it with Cattly and that's because he's a cat ear wearing boy slut who deserves to be captured and chained up in the inevitable /tosg/ guild hall rape dungeon. To the bed, the wall, whatever. He needs to be bullied and teased until the pleasure center of his brain snaps and he's forced to like girls. Put a cow headband on him because after days of this treatment he'll only be good for being milked by sorceresses.
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>>124645421
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>>124646327
I agree. Sure, they should tone down the kissposting, but it's not a big deal and it takes up so little of the thread. The only times when it took up more were really early in the beta. It's nothing as bad as most MMO generals here, probably because we're still in beta and don't have those generals leaking into it. Hell, if the people that didn't like kissposting didn't respond to it telling the world how much they disliked it, there would be even less posts per thread about it. The posts themselves are like 1-10 posts a thread, out of 750+.

/tosg/ is one of the few MMO generals I can tolerate. I can't stand /xivg/ at all and refuse to ever be associated with it
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>>124646232
>>
Does anyone know how Kabalist work?
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>>124646957
>What is SP the class.
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>>124646957
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-kcbt3-changes-summary/40733/887
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>>124646724
I'd argue that RO2 probably had a more tortured development. The original game spent almost 6-8 years in development, and had a sub optimal game to show for it (though I enjoyed what existed). It was so poorly received that the entire game was scrapped. They decided to reuse their Requiem MMO engine and slap on RO nostalgia assets on top of it to cash in quickly, the end result was a game with almost no soul and just plain not fun to play.

For all it's faults, TOS is the better game. With a bit of work and polish, it COULD be successful... lets just see if they have (and even know) what that takes. I'm skeptical, but we'll see.
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>>124646724

Source? I am one of the lucky few that found TOS just a few days before ICBT2 regisration.
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>>124646753
Oh boy, Doc theorycrafting!

That looks good, but wouldn't you want another rank of Krivis instead of Pardoner so Zaibas isn't utter shit? Incinerate + a few debuffs + L5 Discerning would probably last until the next incinerate is up anyway.
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And then Fedimian died
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>Wanted to spend last day with a special person and maybe kiss
>Game went up in flames
>They haven't log on for days
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>>124646086
>first time doing webm
>amidoinitrite

also to the anon who told me filesize limit 2.8, it didn't work so I had to use 2.7 :(
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>>124647172
>>124647147
Any more info besides the SP recovery skill?
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Patch notes for maintenance soon
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>>124646828
Actually Cattly should just be permabanned for representing everything that is wrong with /vg/ and 4chan in general these days. You know, gay roleplaying, pretending to be cute anime girls, steam boyfriends, and just general attention whoring. I love moe anime, but it has been absolutely ruined by these people.

Oh but I'm sure he'll "clean up his act" when launch rolls around.
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>>124645421
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Remember that tripfag that used to come here? People ignored him and went away.

Kissfags are just ERPfags who need attention and mask their delusion on a gesture that isn't even kissing. Just ignore them and they'll go away.
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>>124646915
>a little bit of cancer is fine, it's not like it could spread or anything, hehe
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>>124647434
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-kcbt3-changes-summary/40733/878

Scrolling up a bit from that post would also have done the trick, senpai.
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>>124647414
Cleric tree: the multi-hit that keeps on multi-hitting
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>>124647326
Yea I think Krivis c2 will be better during the lv45-85 run compared to bokor. With bokor c2 being able to afk farm demon prison to rank 6 I think it would be fine path.
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>>124647627
This. People stop giving them attention.
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>>124647409
>My special one got bored of the game after the second week
We can comfort each other if you want
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>>124647414
>7 hits in 4s
>probably 14 hits in 8s (level 5 + debuff)
>20s cd

Sure is balanced in there.
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>>124647414

That took like 3-4 seconds. Watch someone just walk away in PVP

We need a stun. C''on IMC.
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>>124647414
awesome, thanks.

do you mind showing what it looks like to use Zalcai and spread it to enemies with Pandemic, then burn them with Incineration?

thanks a ton for all the plague doc info
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>>124647903
I meant Marielx. I don't know you at all.
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>>124648001
It's not a ground lingering spell tho. The target is still afflicted by the fire if it moves away.
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>>124647627
Crazyaga?
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>>124648027
Oh the Mexicanfag? He went alche right?
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>>124646753
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/wff299mfni/
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>>124647301
>Q) How did you collect information?

>A) To collect information and documents for backgrounds, costume designs and etc, our staff traveled to various places including Lithuania, Turkey, Nepal, France, China and etc. We still have many more places to go.

http://blog.treeofsavior.com/en/?p=134
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>>124647668
Yeah, no, you overexaggerating is what's fucking dumb.
>Two guys use a thanks gesture close to each other so it "looks" like a kiss
>They post calling it a kiss
>That's the end of it until someone replies
Usually, the person replying is someone talking about just how terrible it is, when it's either easy as fuck to ignore or doesn't affect you in the slightest. 10 posts maximum out of 750+ is not a drastic change in quality in the thread, if you just ignored it and stopped making a big deal out of it, it'd be even less of a problem.

>>124647595
All he does in these threads is post "who wants to kiss?" once a thread. The rest is you escalating things way too much, and the thing about /v/ is something you wouldn't even know if he hadn't told the general only recently. If you want to request one person be permabanned for posting asking for kisses, that's fine but you should be asking for a whole lot more perma bans across /vg/ considering ERP and ERP boyfriends are a much larger problem.

You people are getting worked up way too much over what is considerably light-hearted compared to the rest of this board's content
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>>124648245
So we know where the Q&A budget went.
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>>124648290
I saw him posting on a /v/ thread with his character and some fags think he represent /tosg/ or something. Was fucking disgusted.
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>>124647627
>>124647831
This isn't how /vg/ works though. It just ends up turning into a circlejerk among the attention whores, and eventually the basis of the entire thread becomes about being "known" by other members of the thread and them knowing you. The already borderline-forum style of /vg/ just gets turned into one big hugbox clique. Every single MMO general on this board is like this, with extreme examples being /wowg/, /xivg/, and /terag/.
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>>124648001
if that actually worked, I would
Pandemic seems to only want to work with certain debuffs, not entirely sure which ones

either that or it's bugged, idk
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>>124648351
Traveling is not expensive
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>>124648482
How do you propose /tosg/ to be different then? I want this general to be about the game and not some disgusting ERP faggotry when we all know we're all guys here.
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>>124648351
Nigga they crowdsourced translation & localization.

I expect nothing else after that.
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>IMC makes an innocent "Thanks" emote for players to express their gratitude
>IMC's face when everybody uses it for impure acts and it is never actually used to thank at all
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>>124648498
so it doesn't spread Zalcai at all? Hmm. What about something single-target like Hex or Divine Stigma?
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>>124648545
Then pay me a trip to Korea, Nepal and France, since it's so cheap.
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>>124648657
Why would you spread Zalciai? The thing does already aoe debuff with the same range as Incinerate.
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>>124648482
When it's only a few posters, I think we can just ignore them and discuss the game.
When it's more than 50% of the thread, Something must be done.
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>>124648602
Well that would require fucking mods to do their jobs, but they've already given up on this hellhole so we're back to square 1. There isn't really a solution I guess.
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>>124648724
Are you a retard?
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>>124648760
Self moderation.
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>>124648657
don't have someone that can Hex to test
Divine Stigma also doesn't spread
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>>124648545
>traveling is not expensive
Paying the hotel bills and replacing all the equipment stolen by brazilians and chicks is the expensive part.
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Level 10 tent doubles buff duration.
That is all.
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>>124648290
>the rest of the board is shit so a little bit of doodoo in here is ok

People don't just post innocent kisses. You greentext epic kissvirgin smug anime reaction posts literally for the sake of riling up people who don't like kissposting.There's kissposting and there's being stupid faggots about it, and you're being stupid faggots about it. There's nothing light-hearted about turning your shit into an obnoxious meme.
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>>124647595

I agree completely, and I love. I remember the days when stuff like that was the domain of Gaia Online and anyone who brought that shit here would rightfully be told to fuck off there.

Or maybe I'm just too old to still be playing MMOs and nostalgiafagging and I should be the one accepting what this site has become and fucking off.

Wish it wasn't so hard to find a decent group of people to play with when guilds affiliated with 4chan in any way tend to become ERPfests,

(Sorry for the offtopic post)
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Is there a guide to do this exp exploitation that i suddenly see everyone talking about? haven't played in a week+
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>>124649340
>You
Stop trying to generalize, just because someone thinks you're overreacting doesn't make them a kissposter
I can count two posts in the last thread that fit what you described, one of which was just blatant supposed ERP probably by someone who doesn't even play the game to begin with.

Every single one Cattly has posted, with the exception of one thread where he talked about what he'd want done in real life, has just been "who wants to kiss before [...]" and then nothing

Again, just because I think you guys overexaggerate doesn't mean I'm a kissposter. Hell, if you want to bring up images, there is only one image I ever post in these threads and it is pic related
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>>124649421

I love moe anime as well**

(Hell, I even learned moonrunes to be an even bigger weeb)
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>>124649340
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Nichijou is one of my favorite anime of all time.
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>>124649340
>he hasn't kissed
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>>124649659
>>124649765
Like clockwork.
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>>124649645
Sure you did buddy.
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>Meta talk
Meh. Has anything intredasting been discovered today?
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>>124649857
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>>124650000
Plague Doctor info is slowly coming.

>checked
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>>124649340
>being this butthurt about some nerds pretending they are anime girls on the internet
I bet your American
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Do you think we'll be able to do things like this in the full release?
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>>124650184
I think you are the amerifat here
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>>124650184
>I bet your American
You bet his american what?
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>>124650134
Oh well, never got a get on vg before. Speaking of plague, since the cleric tree is usually based around religion, shouldn't featherfoot and it switch trees?
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>>124650420
Boy, you have an odd taste in timing
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>>124650420
hehe so innocent and light-hearted
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>>124650420
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>>124648245
found the image funny for some reason.
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>>124650573
Are you suggesting that isn't innocent and light-hearted? Because I think the number of posts in this thread complaining about him outnumber his two posts. Just pointing that out
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>>124650526
I just got done clipping my nails, I am about to go make dinner. I promise I haven't been around until just meow.
>>124650573
The light-heartedest. If you don't like it, report me, block me, hide my posts. Do not give me any attention.
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>>124649624
Why do you defend this? >>124650420
>>124639420
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>>124650134
I sorta got lazy with the Plague Doctor things, and Pandemic isn't really working right now (at least, that's what I believe cause shit aint spreading like aids right now)

if you want the webm's of the rest of the skills let me know
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>>124650709
>do not give me attention
b-but i like you senpai
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They better add chocolate skin colour on release.
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>>124650739
Please, I'd like to see what Healing Factor and Bloodletting do at least.

I also saw in the Tester Forums that Pandemic might be bugged so that's probably the case.
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>>124650227
You mean being a lonely Shepherd and consequently giving birth to a dog girl?
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>>124632964
Qt barbarian. This is the only time I like barbarians.
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>>124650791
You can give me attention privately. I'll link you pictures of dinner too when it's done if you wish.
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>>124650227
Nora > Horo
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I fucking can't stop laughing.

We need a drawfag to sketch two people kissing surrounded by an angry lynch mob.
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>>124650716
Why shouldn't I? That's two posts, now scroll up and count the number of straight up over-reactions about kissposting. If you guys are so determined to claim kissposting is ruining the general, I'm determined to insist that the fact the number of complaints about something so easily ignored outnumbers the posts they're complaining about is ruining the quality by a greater amount.

You can ignore him, you can even filter his images REALLY easily if you cared to. But the people complaining about something so minor are a worse problem than the people doing it
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>>124650917
I don't know, man.

She's got that kind of "I'm ovulating, you will do" look on her face.
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>>124650828
What would you want 48% herpes rate in ToS?
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Still no info on c3 squire skills?
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>>124648842
>Posibillity that Bokor Doc meta might not work after all
shit

if it ends up not working, at least makes it easier to pick a build
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>>124650876
Bloodletting makes you bleed in exchange for lv2 status effect immunity.
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>>124648940
It doesn't have to be lvl 10. Lvl 1 tent will work but its pretty pointless on low duration buffs.
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>>124650739
The mask is a skill, right? Do you have that available to use?
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>>124651216
Aukuras' and Ogouveve's attribute debuff also need to be tested.
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>>124651061
Probably because it's the definition of avatarfagging. If you really believed in that philosophy of just ignoring things you don't like, then you wouldn't be replying to me.
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Did they fix the infinite card exploit? I can't do it anymore
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>>124644181
Do you think they'll allow marriage in this game?

Asking for a friend.
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>>124651821
>ctrl + f
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>>124651740
>If you really believed in that philosophy of just ignoring things you don't like, then you wouldn't be replying to me.
If you had any common sense you'd have realized the flaw of this before hitting submit. But since not, I can reply to you without feeling the need to over-exaggerate on how much of a problem your individual post is. After all, your post, which I replied to simply asked "Who do you defend this?" but now you're suggesting that me answering a question is the same as over-exaggerating because one person posted his character twice in the last 338 posts?
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Did we get more Featherfoot info beyond standing in bloodpools to regen HP?
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What I've learned from this thread is that there are two types of people

People who are cute

And people who are dangerously uncute
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>>124652051
*Why do you defend this?
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Hey /tosg/!
Post you character so I can draw them in MS paint
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who wants to cuddle under the blankets with me? :3
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>>124652209
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>>124652209
Do mine.
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>>124652369
u don't know how 2 zoom m8?
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>>124652209
Hey
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So Cleric>Krivis>Bokor>Krivis>Pardoner>Oracle> Plague Doctor?
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>>124652369
Heres a zoomed one.
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>>124652504
Cleric > Priest 2 > Paladin 3 > Plague Doctor
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>>124652357
>>124652469
>>124652369
I'll be back when i'm finished
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>>124650876
sure give me a few to convert these vids
>>124651363
yes I do

here's Fumigation in the meantime
>gotta get rid of bugs
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>>124652209
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>>124652209
I look forward to seeing your art of the other characters posted in reply.
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>le girls kissing cute gilss xDDD
>but this is le forbidden le love ^_^
Put on tripcodes so I could filter your cancer, shitstains.
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It seems that Kabalist is the natural upgrade for Sadhu/Krivis builds
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>>124652608
Draw them together
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>>124652209
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Why am I still not banned? I want to stop playing
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>>124652209
I have been usurped, get my good side.
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>>124651594
possibly bugged, according to >>124650876. I'd check myself if the forums weren't down right now
>>124652110
next on my to do list if you want info on that, otherwise I'll just finish up PD and call it a day

here's BeakMask
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>>124652560
>all that food
>nobody around to share your cozy campsite with you

That's so sad.
Are we going to have a /tosg/ Last Supper? I don't think it's enough to just quietly cutepost until we fade into oblivion.
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>>124653394
No matter how many times I see this .gif it still makes me laugh.

>>124653467
That's a really nice animation.
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>>124653514
If their maintenance does its job, we could probably have a get together before servers go down. Channels currently still do crash, but if we're lucky they'll fix shit without majorly breaking something really basic with the maintenance
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>>124652209
Please be gentle.
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>>124653467
>Beak Mask
>The front of the mask contains a drug that protects against status ailments.
>Blue smoke exhaled when mask is just put on.

That's neat.
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don't even care if they're bad. still rolling one a male one
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here comes some more shitty cropped webm's

this one is Bloodletting
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>>124653997
Those cute stocking covered feet are just fucking killing me.
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>>124653856
Wowie, what class is that? It looks neat.
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>>124653997
>That satisfaction at slicing her own arm

Jesus
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>>124653856
This right here is why this game could use full face helmets. He's got Sauron-tier warlord armour and then a cute fuckboy sheep face.
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>>124653997
Healing Factor
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>>124654046
Dragon Master. They ride dragons.
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>>124652209
Can't wait to see when you're done.
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>>124652209
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Kabalist > Plague Doctor
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>>124654218
This is why I'm going murmillo as soon as it becomes available.
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>>124653997
>>124654237
and the last one, Pandemic
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>>124653794
Oops please spend 100 hours of mspaint for my char.

>>124652209
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>>124654241
Neat. What rank are they and what do they do?
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>c4 fuckers
>not a single c4 squire to polish my spear
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>>124652051
>>124651061
Honestly, did you yourself even scroll up and quantify the "innocent kissing" vs "overreacting assholes" posts? Some memer instigated by saying this game's only redeeming quality is cuteness ( >>124645016 probably the same person who posted >>124645253 ), followed by the reaction here >>124645421 , which was met by a bunch of smug reactions from the kiss defense force. You idiots instigated this bullshit, made way more overreacting posts, and you're telling me that the people complaining about kissposting are the ones with the overwhelming numbers shitting up the thread?

I mean really, if that is the only point in your defense then you are just flat out fucking wrong. Both parties hold an almost equal number of posts. The only reason you're stuck here replying is because you think I called you out specifically for some reason.

Look, I'm done. Obviously nothing will be done and my time has been wasted. If you want to reply for the last word then be my guest. Just remember when this becomes another drama-infested bed of attention whores, I was here trying to warn you.

In all honesty it's because I really like this game.
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>>124653467
>>124654317
When are they going to let cryos pull their hoods up?
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>>124654528
Anon, I'm lying to you. They're not called Dragon Masters. I'm sorry. They do have dragon in their name though, technically.
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>>124652209
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>>124654623
Please calm down mister it's just a cute game where everyone happens to be cute and does cute things. Did you not get kissed yet?
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>>124654623
The game has lots of flaws, and major ones at that. There is no need to be upset, friend.
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>>124654775
Oh. I got all excited. What do they actually do then?
>>124654623
I only post asking for kisses a few times a thread, chill out~
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>>124654528
>>124654886
they are supposed to be ff style dragoons but they just suck
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Was I the only one stupid enough to try and join a guild of the forums? The one I joined is fucking dead with only one or two people I actually talk to. I just wanted people I could play the game with.
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I'm going to draw them realy fast since there is a shit load ok?
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>>124654886
They're dragoons, but they're ground-based spear rather than the mounted unit you might expect from anything other than Final Fantasy. Some of their attack animations are neat, but they seem kinda underwhelming right now. But hey, you can jump over bosses as large as Necroventer
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>>124654971
>joining a guild in closed, apocalyptic beta
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>>124653631
Are there any good monster free campsite locations like in >>124654237 ?

Klamidia is great and all but I think those have the best potential for cute. Uskis Arable Land comes to mind but it's kind of far for alts to travel.
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>>124654969
Oh, that's dragoon then? I heard they weren't great. Considering I'm gonna be rolling a swordie on launch, I want to see if there's anything I actually care about other than templar.
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>>124654885
>that (You)

Ahahahaha holy fuck
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>>124655005
Take your time Anon
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>>124655126
Templar is also a waste of a slot, only it waits until r7 to ruin your build. At least you get a guild out of it, I guess. Guess you might as well go Squire on the way there to maximize your in-combat uselessness.
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>>124654971
Was it this one
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>>124655126
hard to tell, balance is literally irrelevant right now because the whole game could change

also we don't know what they could possibly end up having at circle 2 and w/e
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>>124655109
Miner's Village might work. Most of the locations ideal for it are later, when mob density really thins out.

I might do a little warping around in a bit and find some zones to list here, but most are a bit far and out of reach from alts
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>>124655263
If an outfit is cute or nice looking enough, I am potentially willing to waste a slot on it. I do plan on making a guild though, so there is that.
>>124655301
Are they rank 7 or 8? I'm not aware what the current cap is in the Korean beta.
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>>124655102
Yeah I'm an idiot. It'll probably be dead and gone by the time the game actually launches.
>>124655283
No it was some shitty weeb one
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>>124655445
Dragoon and Templar are both rank 7, cap at the moment in Korea is also 7
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>>124655445
7
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>>124655445
I feel you mate. Templar outfit is pretty cute, but I think I prefer Doppel and Fencer outfits.
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>>124655283
>autism.png
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>>124655516
>>124655527
Ah okay, thank you very much. I wonder what C2 and 3 of Templar will have.
>>124655557
I like the templar outfit, it is likely what I'm gonna use if I don't get anything cuter along the way.
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That's it. I'm gonna do it. I'm going to be the guild leader of /tosg/.
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>>124655361
When I get home I'll search around a bit as well. The image in my mind is one of those camps or at the very least a nearby scenic clearing that squire maidens can set up a banquet at.
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>>124655805
What's it gonna be called? Nice Boat?
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>>124655805
Please keep the name Cattly so I know not to join it.
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>>124655805
You're gonna have to race me!
>>124655928
Wasn't me.
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>>124655845
I agree with the idea, I hope we can find something suitable. It's a shame all the farm areas are not only a little far, they're outright dangerous to traverse for anyone low leveled. Tenant's Farm would be a really nice place

>>124655928
You know it's easy to know which posts are Cattly, right? >>124655719
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>>124655283
I actually would like to join that guild, seems more focused and organized than anything that could come out of here, they might be a bit too much into RP, but I can deal with that if people are progressing and achieving goals in game.
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>>124656163
a few autists here will achieve far more than those fags
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>>124656084
You got me. It's the way I type, isn't it?
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>>124656350
It is, it's easy to spot. Not that that's a bad thing, it shows you do actually talk about the game in threads as well, you just never attach your character to those posts
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>>124656084
>they're outright dangerous to traverse for anyone low leveled

Protect your low level Laimabean date as she tries to make it to the Gabsite!
I can't wait!
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>>124653856
It Cata the only other Platemail costume Swordsman has? God I hope they add in those alt costumes for rank 1.
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>>124656549
That sounds really fun, actually
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>>124656465
There is no reason to then, after all. I don't follow the Korean beta stuff much, so most of it is me cluelessly asking about that.
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>>124655805
do you know who to invite
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>>124643171
this.
i get hyped as fuck fighting bosses with this track.
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What would be worse, joining the /tosg/ guild or a guild from the forums?
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>>124656852
>join /tosg/ guild
>reap benefits
>possibly raid guild bank
>leave for other more fun guild
I've been to enough /vg/ guild to know not to trust these guys. And the drama that comes with it isn't even worth it.
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>>124656852
Forums, are you kidding? Why not just join the reddit guild?

The absolute closest you get to the ERP boogeyman is people occasionally talking like anime characters or kissing in the guild hall.
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>>124656852
Reminder that a guild full of homos, avatarfags and kissposters isn't a "/tosg/ guild".
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>>124656852
I always imagine /tosg/ would be the bit more competent and informed player than your average forum goer
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>>124656852
ERP and drama with a few small cliques toward the top of progression vs guild full of normies and potential BRs who are all guaranteed to be c3 archers and future-proof wizards.

Take your pick.
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>>124656852
With decent leadership, /vg/ guilds aren't always bad. I used to go out of my way to avoid them when I first played a few MMOs that /v/ and /vg/ jumped on as well, those were just bad cases with awful leadership where they absolutely shit up the server. Just use your own judgement before joining one.
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>>124657097
literally no
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>>124652209
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>>124657253
Is you a gril?
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>>124657140
I still don't see a /tosg/ guild being that bad, at least not yet, The worst we've seen so far is a few shitposters and Cattly, but Cattly still plays the game and contributes other than the kiss posts.

I can imagine it getting much worse on launch, once everyone can play though.
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>>124657140
>decent leadership
Literally no one is going to drop time from their grinding to organize shit, pay some voip server and help retarded newbees. GM's and officers will just have their tight clique and ignore everything, then complain why people never progress and why no one is rank 7 along with them to complete the current content, they'll either start kicking the scrub players and make room for people who aren't even related to /tosg/ or quit and join a better guild, leaving a shithole behind with nothing but mongoloids who are lvl 100 with a rank 1 class.
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I wouldn't mind LoliPantsu as the guildmaster desu.

>Cute
>Pure
>Cheery
>Informative
>Fucked up build so bad it became a standard
>Is not afraid to bully people cutely
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>>124657415
Stop shitposting lolipantsu
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>>124657415
This post is the definiton of cancer.
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>>124657415
>pure
lol
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you can telepathy a stack of furniture and make it move
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>>124656852
I usually avoid /vg/ guilds in games, but /tosg/'s guild is one I'm actually willing to join. The game itself doesn't allow for a lot of what usually occurs, or at least it doesn't allow it to happen within the game itself. If shit is kept out of the guild chat I'd find it easy to ignore.

I'd never ever go for guild leader, but I'm more than happy to help the guild in the future
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>>124652209
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>>124657360
I'm not that bad, c'mon.
>>124657370
But I plan on organizing things to the best of my ability. I'm just going to need help is all. I dislike the circlejerks that usually form in these kinds of generals, which probably sounds ironic coming from me. We've still ideally got a few more betas before launch anyways to figure out how the whole guild system and whatnot work better anyway.
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Three hours until maintenance, what are they actually gonna do
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>>124656852
Don't get me wrong most /vg/ guilds are fucking utter trash, but it would be slightly better than forum guild. Guildless > both options.

IRC /v/ guilds are always chill though, but I think they're not advertising on here because most of you are fucking faggots and the game will die soon after release if they try to keep these design tenets.
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>>124657718
I'm not saying you're bad, I like you. But still, people freak out about your posts because you're still the worst they've seen in this game. They're being ridiculous because they don't know how bad it can get.
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>>124657824
The same thing they do every night: nothing.
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>>124657824
Put a big bandaid over their hemorrhaging lua files.
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>>124657354
No, It's a kilt man
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>>124652357
I'll be posting and drawing them as I go on
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How do you live with the fact this game is beyond fucked?
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>>124657824

>>124657962
I don't really have anything better to do
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>>124657951
Chris chan is that you?
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>>124657962
I generally just laugh at the incompetence and look at the cute characters and scenery.
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>>124657962
Max dosage of Zoloft.
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one day left of beta and people are still autoattacking big red kepa

why?
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>>124657951
lol
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>>124657951
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>>124657370
I would refuse to lead a guild by /tosg/ just because I don't want to run a daycare and have a full time (currently part time for a month or so though) job to deal with.

VoIP server is currently free due to Discord. Chat servers are free: IRC.

I fucking hate tight clique shit though, but unfortunately a lot of you fuckboys literally do it to yourselves, someone baits with some kiss shit cause LOLiCanKiss then you get mad and bam there's the split, split it further due to shit like "dex sucks" "but dex is current meta" and boom another split, unfortunately because while trolling is fun a good deal of /v/vg/ usually can't tell the fucking difference between someone trying to have a real conversation and "Lol it's troll time" these splits happen, and they happen often.

It's not like reddit/other generic-website-guilds aren't just as bad though so there's that. 1/2
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>>124652369
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>>124658092
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2atr-SKjM8E
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>>124652209
Too lazy to crop
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>>124658225
2/2
I've never been in a reddit guild (I hate the way reddit works [no meme]) but I bet it ends up the same, admin or mod and his friends start a clique, a few people don't like rules, it splits, etc. Even worse because it's not anonymous you know who to hate based off their posts.

Honestly even all the tos discords I've been to are all mostly trash and I can see a clear split happening within 3 months within most of the communities. I'd rather not state the exact triggering factors because they're pretty obvious and will come to light, but they're there.
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>>124658250
Song is pretty spot on. Don't feel a whole lot of anything most of the time.
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>>124657962
JUST LIKE MY LIFE
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I think you guys are looking a bit too far into this guild drama thing.

First of all, the kind of button mashing crowd clearing action game this is, there's very little room for any of the raiding elitism prevalent in other MMOs.

It's also all but guaranteed to be a social guild.

Lastly, and most importantly, this game is too stupid cute for any of that.
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>>124652469
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>>124658482
>>124658487
I kinda laughed.
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>>124657951
>>124658236
>>124658487
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>>124657951

epic meem lad
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>>124658482
No, templar alone will make it a problem.

>Templar summoning you for no reason
>Tell him to stop
"What are you going to do... quit?"

>Templar can only summon 16 people at a time
>Gets done smmoning the 32nd person
>Doesn't tell you he's not wasting another CD just for you the 33rd
>Tells you after when it's a 5 minute walk and you could have walked at the start and made it there in time
>Forever harbor deep emotions
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>>124657962
ABSOLUTELY UNPARALLEL RAGE.

AND THEIR FOCUS ISN'T FIXING ISSUES THE GAME HAS, RATHER, ITS ADDING MORE ISSUES

IS IMC THE LITERAL KOREAN VERSION OF ANKAMA? I S , T H A T , L E V E L , O F , I N C O M P E T E N C E , E V E N , P O S S I B L E .
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>>124658487
>>124658482
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>>124658482
I think the real reason there's no raiding elitism right now is just the fact there's nothing to be elitist over. Adding raids is one thing they should do in the future, just so long as they don't centralize absolutely everything. Just give genuine raids so that there's a little more to do and a little more to grind characters up to.

Like level 200 would be a nice spot for a raid alongside the level 200 dungeon. Just an introductory one not called Fedimian mercenary missions or the 160 dungeon. Something with more depth than the dungeons and missions we've had so far.
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>>124658828
calm down senpai
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>>124658828
calm down monkey
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>>124657962
I'm honestly a bit upset but not super upset, more than anything I'm disappointed with the fucking world, again.

I'm really tired of every video game company lying to me, not like half the companies, not 3/4 of companies not 99% of companies, every fucking video game company.

"Wow check out X online pretty good!"
"Wow look at these systems, new stuff, crazy interactions"

Let me be frank with you, when I first saw and heard about the cool interactions between classes and stuff the first thing I thought of was "There should be a rain spell and it should increase AoE of electric spells used within it" the second thing I thought was "It would be sweet if you had to be careful who you partied with even if just for damage boosts/loss like fire being weak around ice so the dps falling off some"

They didn't even fucking try, it's fucking sad in many ways.

that said the base game is sadly like every other MMO.

"EVERYTHING THATS SAFE TO BUILD IN AN MMO + THIS ONE NEW GIMMICK"
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>>124657718
The thing is, are you going to really spend time helping noobtards who have no clue about the game? and are you going to setup any filter to secure people who join are both related to this board and actually interested on the game?

When the only access requirement is posting on this threads or knowing someone inside the guild, it gets filled with a bunch of awkward randoms who never speak to the rest of the guild, or just quit after a week. And then you have the obvious tryhard cliques, who aren't going to drop people in their perma friend party to get more guild members trained.

I've been on plenty of 4chan guilds since WaR, and the pattern is repeated almost identically. Only had good experiences on AoW, and somewhat in Tera, but it's always so hard to keep things from falling apart when the foundations are so weak, if the guild is built upon nothing but a 4chan brand, all is going to crumble in the blink of an eye, the gleader quits or loses interest and suddenly there's a new guild but only the people the new guild leader liked are invited, and the shit players are left in the shitty guild (lodesadings etc).

I think a guild needs specific goals, the "fun" guilds where there's 0 requirements, and the "play what you want" attitude are only viable if your guild is full of laid back and charismatic people. People should be somewhat proud and feel lucky they got into a guild, and the only way to make that happen is by achieving certain goals in game, guild activities, and a slightly selfless sense of camaraderie where people are willing to waste some of their time to help someone else within the guild without expecting anything in return.
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can someone with level 20 haste use it and then transform into a panto and use the 3rd attack?

I can't seem to get over 60 move speed no matter what.
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>>124657081
What avatarfags do we even have? catty sort of is but that's mostly just the same shitpost over and over
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>>124658779
So we don't elect a dumb guildmaster, dummy.

And you're crazy if you think the summon won't be a "Cattly wants to summon you" prompt.
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>>124656852
I just wanna say I love you guys, yes even the animefags, the kissluts, the shitposters, the drawfags who can't draw for shit, the VAC ban baiter and even that flaming homosexual Cattly.

Thank you, that's all.
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peltASSta
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>>124659205
60 Movement Speed is the cap.
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>>124659154
Let me continue a bit.

Most of balance and numbers despite the going for flat numbers thing are just simply disgustingly unbalanced.

"20 more damage per level but it's also 3-10 more SP per use!"
Who even thought this kind of bullshit was okay.

I don't even know what the fuck they're planning with the mob density, but that shit alone honestly silently tears me up because design choices like this they don't even bother to explain because there is no explanation that makes it okay to go through 200 levels of this terrible fucking mob density, at all.

>>124659251
I don't think the templar has to be the guild master for those things to happen though.
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>merge
>extension
>yfw
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>>124657962
Sad. Expecting another PSO2 at this point. On the bright side, when I eventually realize all MMOs are shit and not worth playing, I'll finally get around fo my backlog of real video games.
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poasting superior mspaint
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>>124659191
Not him, and not in the running for leader but
>are you going to really spend time helping noobtards who have no clue about the game?
I will at least say that I have done this quite happily in every game I've played with /vg/. This by itself isn't a problem and I did that even during this beta when people asked for help with stuff
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>>124659380
No. Just let me go
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>>124659380
This is a great idea, an extension would be wonderful because they've had such a great track record for fixing problems so far.
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>>124659481
This game, being broken and all, is still far beyond better than PSO2
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>>124652659
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>/tosg/ guild
>update allows you to customize the guild hall, /tosg/ goes for the character creation tavern look
>alcohol is introduced
>
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>>124659531
Not that poster but I have too and I have in many games, however he is right, there's either laidback "Do whatever" guild where it doesn't matter and fi you want to try hard/do actual content and dominate shit you probably are better off leaving for a real guild or the people who actually aim to progress.

I strongly prefer the second but the downside is that if you leave your perma party to help a newbie that guy has to stay around for a while and retention in MMOs among people especially here isn't usually so amazing. If 2 in 10 lasts a year it's a surprise.

I don't want to be leader but I do intend to join the guild and help people out, but I also intend to at least on my first character level as fast as possible with either a perma party or party hopping with a few people (I'll stop at 90~ and solo/duo dungeon my 5 runs though since pyrolinker)

The other really really huge split is going to be Orsha v Klaipeda. I imagine we'll all go Orsha but yeah.
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They should really consider another extension. Look the amount of shit that was discovered in the last 2 weeks.
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>>124660075
>in the last 2 weeks
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>>124660017
me on the right
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>>124660075
no please

just wipe and start over at least
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>playing the same game everyday for 11 years
>making new characters to help newbies leveling
>chill and laid back forum shitposter

let's just make psor the guild leader and we are all good
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>>124660050
Well, the Orsha and Klaipedia split isn't that major. It mostly affects quest progression up to Gateway but then you can go to the other side's quests, and do both paths if you want.

>>124660237
Wow please don't post Bahamut alongside something like that
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>>124660075
This bypass was discoverd long ago just not posted 'til now.

No doubt RMTers have several more they're sitting on, XIGNCode in KCBT3 isn't even properly setup, there's just so many fucking problems waiting to happen with their current approach. Hell they quick patched this issue without fixing the core of it which should have never been a problem in the fist place, for some reason our data wasn't encrypted still isn't and kcbt3 wasn't for a long time, this is a big issue as well.
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>>124660237
Fuck off clique.
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People talk about not wanting end-game style dungeons and instead having them as a method to level up. You're ignoring the fact that that would cause dungeons to be entirely based on speed rather than doing it well. People will just get whatever classes can rush the fastest and pressure the devs into making content rushable rather than interesting or challenging.
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>>124660204
No point in having another CBT until we're at least on par with Korea's updates (class 7, new maps, etc).

And I'm pretty sure we don't even have that content translated yet.
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>>124660317
right they'll eventually meet up, but in the start with a permaparty or similar this can become a bit of a problem.

The leveling speeds might also not match up due to dungeons at different levels, grind spots, etc.
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>>124660435
is there any mmo on the current market with interesting and challenging dungeons?
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>>124660389
>>124660317
What is wrong with psor? He's a nice guy and have a lot of free time on his hands.
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>>124660460
BUT ID BE STUCK ON SAULE
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>>124660654
Wildstar
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>>124660435
If we're going to have dungeons, I just want dungeons that aren't barren, tedious, boring affairs filled with damage-sponge enemies, with next to no silver and very low chances for rewards.
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>riding around looking for a suitable /tosg/ campsite for Wednesday
>completely barren of players
This is so sad.
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>>124660674
>>124660435
>>124660237
Stop fucking posting static gifs faggot
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>>124660237
>>124660317
Defend the Inn quest WHEN?
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>>124660075
They have to fix their shit first.
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>>124660842
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>>124660837
Well, the game has been dead for the last two weeks and the exploits just killed it
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>>124660938
Stop reposting my reaction images.
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>>124660654
That are also repeatably fun? No.

We'll see if Path of Exile's new dungeon actually allows for fun after the first few runs at it.

I agree that I do want dungeons that are fun and reward you for progressing smart and enjoying them rather than rushing the content.

Since they've based so much on LNs already to give an example I would like dungeons similar to the concept in Isekai meikyuu de dorei harem wo , with monster party, changing dungeons every X days, etc.

If R1EMU comes out before OBT does I'll probably sink a lot of my time in trying to make an alternatively balanced the way I think it should be version of ToS.
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>>124660654
xiv arr and WoD both had dungeons that shit all over the average players, but they weren't hard

you can't make a dungeon that is difficult, interesting and stays that way after you've done it 50 times
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>>124660837
No one does anything legitimate anymore. No one goes on a drake crusade with me in the 190 dungeon anymore. No one does anything other than use their exploited level 20 skills in Fedimian or Klaipedia.

>>124660924
>/tosg has other Leviathan fans
Yes, you guys make me happy
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>>124660926
greentexting
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>>124659261
Let us all meet again in OBT. :^)
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>>124660654
Wakfu
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>>124660435
Think its less people dont want end-game style dungeons as much as its they dont want end-game style dungeons like the boring sleep inducing tier that we have right now.

Theres a lot of things they could do to make dungeons fun, but currently, its just a snoozefest.
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>>124661035
I fucking lived in Leviathan threads while it was airing. Some of the most fun I've ever had on 4chan.

>my screenshots are over 2 years old now

JUST
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>>124660926

Don't tell me what to do, faggot.

This game will be 100% dead by the time we get guilds anyway.
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>>124660926
>blatant roleplaying in a rpg

Unless you mean the "Kissu cute" roleplaying.
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>>124660926
Homosexual and other degenerate behaviour.
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>>124652723
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I finally made a Venier guys, I did it.

If anyone else is struggling to make one, I have 2 spare lizard amber that I ended up getting by accident (I didn't think I had enough). Are there any fencers that want them?
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>>124661014
I think dungeons that change or shift in some way are a great idea. GW2's Fractals of the Mist was fun for a lot longer than most dungeons are because there were a bunch of different mini dungeons randomized into a group of 3 making for the full dungeon run. I'm usually against randomized content in anything but traditional Roguelikes, but it might lend itself well to ToS. That or something closer to Fractals of the Mist might work as well.
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kOBT in 9 days.

http://tos.nexon.com/brand/20151208/index.aspx
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>>124661564
Zemyna?
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>>124661497
I like this. Thanks, anon
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>>124661378
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>>124661656
Yeah Zemnya, I can meet you at the fountain if you still need to make the weapon (They're on my pyro)
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>>124660654
Tibia dungeons are really great.
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>>124661323
Never seen it, want to sell me on it?
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>>124652998
Getting tired of drawing, maybe one or two more and I'm done
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>>124661651
>kOBT
>they still haven't fixed jack shit
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>>124661779
Nevermind. I think I won't be playing anymore. Thank though
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When did everything go so wrong, /tosg/? All I wanted was another good sandbox mmo, instead we got this themepark shit again. Why is it considered okay to lie to your players? This keeps happening over and over again, I can't take this shit anymore. I'm at my limit, soon I'll completely give up on mmos. Like that wasn't enough, imc is completely clueless about everything, balance, bugs, optimization... I want to play a viable wizard and instead we get this useless shit. Really, fuck you imc, you incompetent lying pieces of shit.
I guess at least the combat, artstyle and player interaction are nice.
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>>124661651
>Neo-Classic MMORPG

What did they mean by this?
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>>124661859
Pretty certain they did fix the infinite quest exploit at least, right?
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>>124661323
Leviathan threads on /a/ were some of the most fun I've had. I didn't realize how long it's been since it aired, but I've got an urge to rewatch it
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>>124661946
>themepark
Cute buzzword, cuteposter-kun.
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So what's everyone going to play after beta ends?
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>>124661651
Do I still need a korean phone number for this
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>>124661946
>Themepark

No one can give me a proper explanation for this term. People just call any MMO they don't like a themepark. I don't understand. At first I thought it was a WoW style MMO but apparently not, because ToS is a themepark according to anon.
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>>124661793
Three words:

retarded

dragon

girls


And Syrup.
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>>124661835
10/10. Thanks for immortalizing my cute Wugushi, anon.
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>>124661946
Clerics are the true wizards Anon, just play that in OBT. Everyone will love you too.
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>>124661596
RNG in dungeons is pretty much a necessity if you want to keep them from being stale.

I just don't like RNG every entrance I think that's just as bad, it forces you to learn the RNG instead of the dungeon and you do because you have to thus making it boring faster.

Reset daily/weekly would be fun, no need to limit amount of runs. Things like limited drop factors (Secret room that can open with certain triggers/rarely used skills and are seriously hidden not obvious AT ALL) would be fucking keen.

Imagine if you dig too close to a wall that happens to be loose you see extra rocks drop, you keep digging cause "Ooh more stones", and it fucking opens a secret room with a Lv4 chest, you happen to have either a key or Corsair friend and get some phat loot secret emoticon!!

Now imagine that but other cool scenarios created as well, they're seriously losing a lot of potential with combination options.
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>>124661968
Yeah, that was the one thing they attacked right away. Everything else took either a month, was acknowledged then forgotten, or was just completely ignored.
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>>124662249

xD
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>>124662091
korean obt
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>>124662249
:D
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>>124662138
Its Syrorin you faggot
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he's gonna get you
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>>124662091
I was considering resubbing to a certain MMO, but I have this odd desire to look through other F2P MMOs for a while. That, and finish up a couple of JRPGs
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>>124662249
Based John
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>>124659853
If this bombs in Korea it'll be exactly the same as PSO2 in that we don't get it.
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>>124661956
A new take on classic MMORPGs.

Essentially they want to go back to where MMORPGs were X years ago (In this case almost 15) and derive their own 'new' version of that as opposed to just following the steady year by year progression MMOs have followed.

Of course this is just a buzzword and they literally are following the same shit cause barely anything changed.

>>124662114
Yes

>>124661946
>Buzzwords
Truth to them though.

Unfortunately this is standard business practice, the only thing we could do differently than be players and get keked by businesses constantly is to try and make our own MMO, slowly branch out to make something truly great and inevitably either fail or get bought out for a crazy sum by Nexon/etc and become one of the shills.
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>>124662043
>>124662128
So, you're saying ToS isn't WoW style? Tons of meaningless quests, no reason to go back to low level maps. The world does not feel alive, its that same shit again. Just climbing up the map and never going back. MMOs are fucking dead and that makes me sad.
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How cute
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>>124662138
I like cute, but there has to be context. Is there an actual story/adventure or is it just cute things for the sake of it?

>>124662220
That actually sounds super fun. Not all that hard to implement either. I mean the base shifting dungeon would need a good amount of resources, but the specifics like the secret rooms, maybe bonus bosses, or whatever wouldn't be tough. A lot of stuff can be recycled for that sort of thing.
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>>124662440
It's Syrup.
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Gods can't be banned.
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>>124662543
It already bombed in Korea. Unless they repackage the whole thing it is fucking dead and I wasted a years worth of hype.

>>124662570
I already have ideas myself but I'm just curious Anon, what would your ideal MMO look like in this sense?

Please do note that this problem isn't an issue with just MMOs but a lot of the popular fiction they are built off of wuxia, xianxia, LNs, mangas, etc.

There are two types either "No levels" aka fighting heavy games and there are "Levels" aka progression heavy games.

What would be your way of balancing this? In particular wihle staying with the Progression/level heavy because that's where the audience is.
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>>124662570
It's more like old school mmos than wow. Much less hand-holding. The world is alright. The story is intriguing and leads to nice speculations and memeing in /tosg/.
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>>124662559
>Yes
Fuck. Fuck this shit
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>>124661793
The world's dumbest D&D group frustrates their DM as they do everything they can to (unknowingly) escape a railroaded plot. They also bully the DMPC a lot.
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>>124661651
Can I learn Korean in 9 days??
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>>124662128
nigga just google it

>The concept of a themepark MMO is much the same. Heavily driven by developers from the very start, new players begin with a set path to follow. The developer controls the experience, from the first time a player logs in with a new character and every time after, until that character achieves the level cap for that particular game. Developers restrict the attractions offered, often only allowing one ride at a time. In other words, once on there’s no turning back until the ride stops!

>Think of it like an actual themepark. The "rides" (quests, dungeons, battlegrounds, etc.) are built for you by someone else to create a very specific and directed experience. In a themepark, if you want a crazy thrill, you know to go stand in line for the rollercoaster. In a themepark MMO, if you want PvP you know you just need to queue for a battleground.

Compare hardcore themepark MMOs like WoW, Wildstar, ESO, TOR, to a sandbox MMO like SW Galaxies for example.
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>>124662617
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>>124662091
Mugen Souls, Dragon Quest Heroes and then go back to Path of Exile.
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>>124662570
>No reason to go back to low level maps
Dungeons with specific drops and extra talt for guilds, material drops, adventure journal, monster gems, Class Masters, several quests have you go back to them for the sake of it, high quality items for the market, normal gems, treasure chests, druid transformations, mimic abilities (potentially), class advancement quests, guild events (potentially)

In addition, they are low level maps. Of course you aren't going to want to spend your whole play-time there. Why the fuck would you want to? I don't like the experience penalty but you shouldn't be able to get the same benefit grinding level 10 mobs as you do level 150 mobs. You're blinded by nostalgia into thinking that having one single map that is ideal to farm on, because the community will find that one map, is somehow better than having varied scenery and mob type while leveling. You fucks don't know what you want.
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Didn't they say you could climb building and shit when they first announced the game? I can't climb shit.
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>>124662091
back to iRO...
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>tfw I've been saying IMC is incompetent and we shouldn't trust a developer who's only worthwhile games was from a decade ago
>tfw people just called me a hater
Do you fucking see now?
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>>124662825
Interesting.

>csfstdi_woof_awoo

That's gotta be one of you fags, right...?
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>>124662886
Ne
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>>124662895
>In a themepark MMO, if you want PvP you know you just need to queue for a battleground.
Well fucking yes. "If you want to do something, then you have to do it".

My first mmo was DAoC and that's exactly how it was. You want PVP? You "queue" to join one of the battlefields.
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>>124662617
I could literally do this in a day of coding lol.

As a matter of fact a game I play (King Arthur's Gold) had this and even made it available for players to fuck around with it, mid you it was a 2D game but it's probably the same amount of work, you essentially generate a2D file based off of a simple script with parameters, then parts of the 2D file correspond to different rooms that get created.

Bonus points that would be fucking AMAZING to do with friends (from an English WN).

Let's say this dungeon resets once a week, it's a lvl 200 dungeon. It can only reset with no one in it, and it gets progressively harder the longer it's past it's time. Monsters start to seek you from farther away and increase in frequency of mob density. The only way to get it to reset forcefully at that point is to have everyone inside die or to kill the boss on increased difficulty. Increase difficulty = Better AI (Work), and stronger stats (to a degree). Better difficulty better reward.
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>>124663134
Stop posting non-moving gifs
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>>124662854
>>124662929
Based /tg/

What a ride.
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>>124662128

I suppose it's the linear as fuck progression. Go to a map, do the same 10 boring quests (collect X, kill mobs, boss fight) and the game guides you to the next
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>>124662886
Step 1: Learn that it's Hangul not Korean
Step 2: No.
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>>124663216
Yes and that's part of how themepark MMOs work.
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>>124657962
But it's not, anon.
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>>124663134
>they made some mistakes so they're incompetent
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Thank fuck, they've updated their class simulator.

Contains R7 jobs.
http://tos.nexon.com/gameinfo/joblist.aspx

There's also the character class simulator.
http://tos.nexon.com/gameinfo/rankup.aspx

Note, maintenance is still ongoing for their website so links might not work straight away.
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>>124662854
That sounds like a lot of fun, I'll give it a watch. Thanks.
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>>124663324
God, it feels so sad looking back. I miss that show so much
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>>124663405
Which is NOT automatically a bad thing. Definitely not something that "wow brought in and killed the mmo genre" like many people seem to imply.
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>>124663249
She's blinking.
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>>124663474
Its in kimchirunes so its as good as a used paper towel for me. Any chance on translations soon? I really want to know squire c3 skills.
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>>124661990
>>124661323
>>124660924
You guys convinced me to give it a shot
I hope its as good/fun as it sounds
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>people expecting open world and non-linear MMO
Top kek, if you were honestly expecting this you're delusional.
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>Rank 7
>5/8 Red
>3/8 Green

Utitlity confirmed dead.
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>>124663615
>Its in kimchirunes so its as good as a used paper towel for me.
That's not the point here anon.

This means all information about jobs and circles are out, and more importantly will be public.

This means there will definitely be translations soon, probably on fansites. I expect TOSBase might be able to update with this.
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>>124663474
Top laffo. Warlock is some sort of magic fairly cinderella class, judging by the costume alone.
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>>124663798
It's not though, no r5c3 or r6c2 info is listed there. It's literally useless.

Elementalist is also missing and replaced by Warlock
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>>124663746
I wasn't expecting that at all. All I wanted was a game that wasn't a broken mess with consistently ignored issues getting pushed to open beta.
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>>124663324
>>124663563
>Her name is Syrup
>I throw my axe

This shit still puts me in tears my god
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>>124663106
my god please tell me that's from a Hentai
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>>124663995
>mfw people near me haven't watched K-ON or can at least recognize Mio at this point, or even just Kyoani style
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>>124662570
>Suddenly Reminded of ff14 Zodiac quest killing lady bugs for your epic weapon.

Fuck that noise. I want to explore more dangers not wasting minutes and fly stones going to payon dungeon 5.
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>>124663925
This is probably because Elementalist was listed in the files as Warlock for the longest time.

Expect them to fix this, hopefully.

Also, there's no R5 C3 and R6 C2 info because a handful of classes at that those ranks actually had skills added in kCBT. (i.e. Doppelsoeldner and Monk)

Any new skills which are actually in are present, check out Peltasta C3 and you'll see Langort.
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>>124664273
>ranks actually had skills added in kCBT. (i.e. Doppelsoeldner and Monk)

That should be 'actually had no skills added'.
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>>124662794
Shit man, it would take a while to write down my ideal mmo here, but its basically this: the world needs to feel alive. If you want to get to the place A, you need to walk and travel, not just teleport. Teleport would be allowed between a few major cities only with some complications. For example: city Z can teleport you to X and Y, but if you want to go to K, you need to teleport to Y first, that would make sense with ocean routes and stuff. Also, each travel costs money, incentiving people to hang out in the cities that are better for them at the moment.
Each city needs its own charm. Z city is the one focused at merchanting, while X is focused on spells.
Meaningful quests. Not something like: kill X monsters or gather Y flowers. Runescape quests and ragnarok job changes are a good example.
Tons of caves, including high level ones on low level maps to incentive people to go back there.
Non-linear progress. If I want to train on the place H instead of the place I its completely okay, both are around the same level with different monsters and drops, each one with its own charm. Place H may provide less xp, but better drops, while I provides a ton of xp, but you end up wasting your cash.

Its basically that dude. I actually have a lot of another ideas but lets leave it at that.
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Why the oracle master don't talk to me? I want to meet every job master npc.
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>>124663430
Fuck off Narue
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>>124662794
See that's why I don't get why Nexon is trying to rush it out. They can jew the cash shop as hard as they want, but when the game is this unfinished, will they really get that much of a return?
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>Fabulous costume for a not so fabulous class
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>>124663474
>http://tos.nexon.com/gameinfo/joblist.aspx
>No new rank 6 abilities

Come on. i want to if Faloconer isnt gonna be shit.
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>>124664204
Nagisa best Kyoanus!
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Why is Cleric 3 > Paladin 3 not viable?
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>>124664531
I have the oddest desire to make a male warlock right now
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>>124664479
To them its probably just another drop in the bucket, this company shits MMO's out like a shitty mobile dev. Sides if they really have been bleeding them dry for 8 yrs, they're probably just wanting to get rid of it while making any possible bank they can from it.
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>>124664570
Because it has no real support functions, and priest buffs fucking carry you through the majority of levels since all youll have is smite/conviction/AA, though i guess if you went a magic build itd be more viable. Still sounds shit though.
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>>124664423
a lot of mmo's tried this and they're all dead because it's boring, people don't play games to deal with the same shit they do irl.
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>>124663474
>pie Romantica standing
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>>124664531
>All the skills makes Warlock look like some edgy faglord

>mfw it's just a fabulous faglord.
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Maintenance patch notes yet?
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>>124664821
>returned fire
100% accurate
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>>124664960
- Corrected some typos and translation errors.
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>tfw the exploits have made the game boring and uninteresting
Just fucking turn off commands on server side, how hard could that fucking be?
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Where did they find this weeb fag?
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>>124663474
It'll be a long time before I know how I'll end up changing my C3 Cryo build and whether it'll have Warlock, Featherfoot or something else as its rank 7 class
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>>124665075
>they only disabled that specific command and not all commands
Really IMC?
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>>124664821
>free test
wugushi confirmed high test
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>>124662091
FF14. Bloodborne. Wolfenstein.

I need a break. Will come back when we have Osha as a starting city.
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>>124665245
They didn't disable anything you dumb cuteposter. They just added serverside checks for quest restarting function.
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>>124664423
A few MMOs have tried this but unfortunately it doesn't usually work out, between guides and it mostly being specialization V social, social usually wins if you want to keep your player base, so instead they just don't do it.

I agree with quests, perhaps it's the oversaturation of quests that cause this problem. LaTale had some decent quests but there were so MANY that it was just quest grind. MS was somewhat the opposite where it was mostly mob-grind (I actually liked the way they did grind though cause it was balanced well back then).
Ragnarok also does quests well, not too often but definitely there and more 'epic'.

The last one is pretty important I agree, to any MMO that is level based.
Right now I'm actually hoping we see something like that, since they created the second initial progression of Orsha I'm hoping that we'll see more splits later.


>>124664531
>Use pillar
>Enemy uses fire pillar
Don't know which
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Is there a way to disable v-sync with some hidden haxor user.xml option?
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>>124665383
Okay random IMC dev, I'm sure you know whats going on.
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>>124665125
Hey, he's doing the best he can to stop the cheating :)
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>>124665639
It's not disabled since you can use that same keybind/function to restart legit quests.

My dad works at IMC btw.
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>>124665590
Why not do it in-game? The toggle's right there.
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>>124665735
Oh, right. Thanks m9.
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>>124656084
So I did some exploring and if you want to do some outside /tosg/ gathering on the last day I came up with a few locations.

There's the Miner's Village, obviously, but I really like the Entrance to Kanteen Forest. There is a cozy guard outpost there with warm lighting and an elevated cabin platform. It's also super easy to get to; it's one zone up from Tenet Garden and completely safe.
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>>124665590
Ingame settings has the ability to toggle it off
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>>124665853
Oh, I think I like the sound of Entrance to Kateen Forest
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>>124665848
I tried using a framerate limiter on the driver and it causes massive juddering, by the way. It's TOS Vysnc or no Vsync at all.
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>>124665990
>>124665853

Forgot my picture.
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>>124665853
i hate that place. too gloomy and only a single tree root crystal.
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>>124666098
This is way too ERP-friendly
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Where Featherfoots?

>>124665453

The warlock one has a giant smiley face on it.
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>>124666098
Yeah, I think that'd work out really well for a gathering
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>>124666098
nice spot

time to afk there forever cause there's no way i'll be online on time
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We're all moving to the first server when the game officially releases right?
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There's a post about what to expect for OBT, most we know already.

http://tos.nexon.com/community/dev/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=34

-Orsha and Klaipeda overlap at Fedimian, both Orsha and Klaipeda are intended to go up to Rank 4.

-Star Rating refers to area difficulty. Higher star rating means better rewards but more risk.

-Guild system, the post says you can initially have 20 members max (it's 25 in kCBT right now) but will increase based on characteristics.

-Companions raised through guild system gained from Guild Events (Raid Event). Raid Events are the events unlocked at the Guild Tower Lv 4.

-Magic Amulets are coming back, but they now appear at Levels 220+. (That wasn't mentioned in kCBT notes.)

-Character pre-creation from Dec 15th, allows early access to the tutorial area.

They're going to update with a more detailed schedule later, apparently.
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>>124666257
anything that isn't too full of BR and redditors
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Any anon on Laima with a toy hammer to sell? It's the last thing that i need to test.
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>>124666098
I see it already. There is going to be a food table set up right in the middle and two people kissing under that lamppost on the right.
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>>124666098
New meetup spot confirmed, what time are we doing this? I assume we're all gonna be there until the servers shut down as well.
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>>124666961
Now!
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>>124667063
We can't do it now! I haven't even started drinking!
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>>124667063
On my way then, might take a while since I'm not wearing anything!
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>>124667063
>>124667157
Huh, are we doing this now? I'm fine with that, I'll make my way there soon if people agree
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>>124666961
Servers shutdown at 2300 server time, right? So no later than an hour or two before then.
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>>124667157
I also gave away all my silver, so I gotta walk!
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>>124661035
I ran the 190 dungeons and 200 yesterday with some players who were leveling legit so there are still SOME around just not many
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Can I make it there at level 1?
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>>124667254
I have a feeling not many people will come because of the mess that's happened the past few days, but I'll come anyways.
I'll be in a centurion outfit
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>>124667362
i made it to fedimian at level 1 twice
I had to icoin through thorn walls though
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>>124667337
I couldn't find anyone, and just got tired of soloing Cerberus's way too many minos

>>124667362
I think you can be escorted there. Someone with swashbuckling can probably just pull and kill everything constantly while you guys walk to Kateen
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>>124667362
i hope you dont make it
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best to approach from Tenet Garden
fucking painful running though Owl Burial Ground
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Hello, I was absent due to being busy and shit like that and I wasn't able to play and lurk this general these days. Now I'm hearing about an exp and class exploit, may someone please explain it to me please? I just want to know, I don't really care about exploiting it, because I'm trying to play the game and exp the intended way, thanks.
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Knowing all the infos we have now about the R7 classes.

Have you guys watched the G-trailer again?

Noticed a few more bits now that I know what I am supposed to be looking at.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sayYpOhqJXg
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>>124667517
This was so kind I'll respond to you without bullshit.

Someone leaked a way to add in commands directly to your hotkey.xml file, this allowed you to do things like repair your armor remotely, open almost any shop remotely, start quests remotely (What WAS being exploited), and much more. The quests thing didn't check for pre-requisites so it allowed you to 'class up' to any class.

Part of it has been fixed but basically just the quest part you can still class up easily and do other such things.
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>>124666961
>>124667063
Guys please wait
>CBT will end on December 9th, 23:00 PM (EST).

We can all head there now but the idea was to have a final gathering as the servers shut down. It needs to be thrown in the next few OPs so everyone can make it.
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>>124667697
sure but that's not gonna stop me from hanging out there for 2 days
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>>124667697
Too late, I already walked all the way here!
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>>124667786
Same, it's a really comfy spot and I prefer here to Fedimian
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>>124667692
Oh, Thank you for your reply. Can you get quests from others jobs aswell? Like a Cleric doing a Linker quest?
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>>124667517
exp exploit is gone, and it was done by added code to xml files.
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ILL COME. ILL WEAR THE SORC OUTFIT
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>>124667930
Yes, that was part of the exploit. I'm not sure if the current exploit still allows that.
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>People show up and immediately act cute
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>>124668252
ch1?
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>>124668318
Yeah
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>Just reading tester forums
>KR player complaining about Archer requiring so much money and it's hard to get any as an Archer

It's not just on iCBT2 I guess, though the Silver Rate on KR is currently really good. Lots of silver drops naturally to cover the cost of potions.
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>semen demon skill videos
yes/no?
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>>124668490
>Archer requiring so much money
I don't see how they require any more than other classes unless you're a Sapper or some shit.

>Oblique shot spammers
Kek
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>>124668490
gooks are a bunch of losers

archer is god tier farmer unless you picked the garbo archer classes
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>>124668607
Do you even have to ask? yes
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>>124668607

Yes of course.
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I can already smell the guild drama, can you smell it too /tosg/?
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>>124668641
>unless you're a Sapper or some shit
That just shows how much do you know about Archers. Putting refinement and equips aside, you're going to waste at least 15m buying attributes to start doing noticeable damage and grind efficiently.
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BUTT
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>>124669519
Because the other classes get attributes for free, right?
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>>124669636
You can overkill shit with Seism, Helm Split and Cleave without spending a single penny with attributes. You can also manage pretty well with wizards and cleric.
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>tfw awkward loser even in internet meetups

guess it's kirito in my future
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>>124669847
Who are you talking about
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>>124669885
themselves
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>>124669847
That's cute, but you don't need to talk a lot in meetups. Just do what I do and stay mostly quiet
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>>124669518
Nope, we're just all having fun!
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>>124669926
Just join the guild and be awkward with everyone else
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>>124663771
>0/8 blue
Tanks don't exist in this game.
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>>124669847
Sit with someone! They don't bite much.
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So honestly while I've been getting very disillusioned with IMC lately and the way they've been handling class balance, balance overall and whatnot what I am getting excited about (and will probalby be let down) is what it looks like is going ot happen with guild towers.

I'm hoping very hard that guild towers will work similar to placing your own Emperium Crystal and that people entering into a certain area of your tower automatically constitutes PvP.

Of course with unlimited guilds this will become a problem at a base level so it either can't be a huge thing or be restrcited to certain Field maps

Google translate from the tos.nexon page: Guild Wars is also available with other guilds. Guild Wars destroy the tower of the enemy guilds or guild that is a PVP with pro-enemy guild members can face in the field. Yigyeodo in this war is that so you can get as much as possible, so I hope Staying in peace.


>>124669576
Saved.
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>>124669831
Barbarian damage falls off a lot late game if you don't invest in it. I bet you're one of those people that played Barbarian early game and think it's OP.

All the classes fall off in damage dramatically if you don't invest in it. Pyro is the best wizard class at the moment and the damage is just okay, Archers do more far more damage per hit but Pyros do more hits per second. Clerics are the worst DPS in the game and Archers outdps them even with 0 investment.
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>>124670112
How do you hide the IU?
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>>124670112
Some sort of BR meeting?
It's dead night in relevant timezones.
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>>124668889
>>124669184
ask and ye shall receive

I'll start off with Bloodsuckling
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>>124670019
Thre are 0/8 blue in rank 5 6 and 7.
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>>124670232
<HotKey ID="ToggleUi" Name="Toggle UI" DownScp="ui.ToggleUi()" UpScp="None" Key="F11" UseShift="NO" UseAlt="NO" UseCtrl="NO" OnEdit="YES" />
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>>124670251
It's dead night in BRland, too, so what the hell.
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>>124670112
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We need a professional screenshotter. Somebody who doesn't play on a laptop without antialiasing.
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>>124670251
NEET meeting
it's night time everywhere
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>>124670283
im autist, you edit this in what? user xml?
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>>124669576
>actually having blue hair
So it actually works in kbeta?
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Where are the maintenance notes
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>>124670251
>>124670315
>Pinoy Meetup
well that`s not better than BRs
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>>124670362
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>>124670403
hotkey.xml bottom of file but above Category closing tag.
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>>124670252
Ngadhundi
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>>124670420
It's not kCBT.
But I'm not sure if others can see the blue hair. It does persist when I logout though.
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>>124670470
>Cattly
>Pinoy
Who would've thought?
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>people who use "But it's a closed beta!" to justify IMC being a shit developer
Is there anyone more insufferable?
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>>124670403
>>124670498
Yeah, and then press F11 to toggle the UI on/off.
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>>124670562
That... makes sense.
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>>124670470
>It's impossible to be up at night

why do you use the "`" anyway, isn't that a thing BR's do? :^)
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>>124670485
Top lmao that awkward nerdmo hidden in the tent.
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>>124670604
Look, we're trying to be comfy here
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>>124670562
I'm as white as it gets. I'm just a NEET.
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>>124670498
YAS. thanks anon
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>>124670548
Kurdaitcha (this one was a bit buggy)
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>>124670650
Fuck that, I want to complain about video games.
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>>124670120
><specific class falls off>

Every class falls off past its intended ranks, except whatever gets mixed with Linker. Stop making it sound like only [Barbs/Highlanders/Archers/Clerics] have skills with fixed numbers.
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I don't want to say good bye.
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>>124670635
Sir, why u mad la , sir wkwkwkw
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>>124670775
You've still got a whole 24 hours to spend at the campsite with us!
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>>124670485
Retake this
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Another.
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>>124670728
Cleric has enough multihit attacks that it will never fall off.
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>>124670714
>>124670548
>>124670252
Bone Pointing (AI is shit and attacked the one in fucking Zimbabwe instead)
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So what exploits are they still did not fix?
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>>124670120
I have a level 200 Barb c3 Fencer and a level 200 Archer c3 Wugushi c3. Barbarian damage falls off after level 190 maps, but you still have the skills from rank 6 to add to the skill rotation and attributes to help. Archers are pretty good for PVP, but you can't do shit against bunnies and goblins if you don't have at least a +10 Lethena and 70% Oblique Shot/Multi Shot attributes.
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>>124670728
>Every class falls off past its intended ranks
Pyros are still top tier even at endgame. Cleric will never fall off because it has too much utility. Oblique Spamming Archers still do very respectable damage at endgame.
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What's the current exploit to job up and make a weapon repair shop easily?
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>>124670112
This one is cute but the other is better
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>>124670924
>Pyro
Linker

>Cleric
Heals

>Oblique
What is Stone Shot and Split Arrow?

None of the classes are as strong as they were starting out. That's how the game works.
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And another.
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>>124670839
False. By that logic pyromancer and Archer c3 never fall off.

Everything falls off only if better things come along with more multihit, the problem is comparison of the skills available to you at that level not the skills themselves.

Pyromancer mostly don't fall off because of the raw pure AoE that is flame ground as well as 2(+AoE attack ratio if fixed)x2(Fireballs)x15 attacks every 15 seconds, and fire pillar/hell breath also raw AoEs.

If we get a multihit hard enough rank 8 though, pyro will fall off as stat sticks would do better to boost the rank 8 multihit skills instead.
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Who has the screenshots from the first meetup?

https://u.pomf.io/jzjivb.webm
https://u.pomf.io/znmyrs.webm
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>>124671003
There's always someone that catches a blink
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>>124670728
>Every class falls off past its intended ranks

>>124670120
>All the classes fall off in damage dramatically
HUR
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>>124670714
what the flying fuck

>>124670898
>>124670548
these look like shit

thx for posting
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<HotKey ID="CustomZoom" Name="Custom Zoom" DownScp="camera.CustomZoom(400,0,0)" UpScp="None" Key="F10" UseShift="YES" UseAlt="NO" UseCtrl="NO" OnEdit="NO" />

if you want to superzoom
400 is like world boss zoom out level
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when is the meetup?

dmn i need you to make me some level 20 transform, shapeshift, and haste scrolls so i can get there faster
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>>124671075
Multihits still remain useful far past their ranks, which we can already see. Cleric gets 3 crazy powerful multihit skills currently in the form of carnivory, zaibas, and cure, and zaibas and cure still do decent damage in comparison to carnivory, and the difference between the 3 will only get smaller the more you level up.
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>>124671056
Pyros are still amazing even without Linker though. C1 Pyro is pretty shit and C2 Pyro is good but C3 Pyro has 15 hits of Fireball, 30 second Ground, Fire Pillar, Hell Breath, and Fire Wall. That doesn't fall off at 200, the sheer number of hits you get is too great.
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>>124670898
>>124671140
and everyone's favorite, Blood Bath (the DoT + blood bath only works on Beast, Devil and Insect types, anything else is just the initial hit)
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>>124671086
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>>124671056
>Heals
That doesn't invalidate the argument. You're just reaffirming that it doesn't fall off.
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>>124671280
>sucking the bood of insects and demons
that doesn't make sense
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>>124671330
>>124671210

Better
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My favorite one so far.
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>>124671238
Right now.
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>>124671393
The discussion was about damage. Utility never falls off, you might as well talk about Peltastas in that case.
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>>124671056
Linker is a rank 3 class and it doesn't and will never fall off, ever. The idea that later classes are better sounds good in theory but in practice that's not the case. The early classes still matter the most for the majority of cases and are usually the best because you've had the investment in it.
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>keep getting revived
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>>124671407
>>124671330
>>124671210
>that fucking sorc still hiding her face behind the lamp post
stop trying to act pure
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Doing fine as a cryo in the current endgame. the only monster that fucks me is the bunny, but the reason is the element (ice) so i lost half of my dmg in these fuckers
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How long till the servers go down?
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>>124671470
That's not a real meat-up.
The real deal is tomorrow before the servers go down.
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>>124671551
>You're the one with such good taste
Oh wow
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Just felt like posting this again
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>>124671330
>>124671407
Aftermath

>>124671280
The regen rate seems super fast. Maybe it's not as bad as people thought. Maybe the attributes are good?

>>124671428
>>124671470
But I don't want to log on. I know I'll regret it though.
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>>124671595
23 hours
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>>124671537
Yeah how many of the rank 5 and 6 classes are legitimately better than C2/C3 Pyro?

Protip: None of them.
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>>124671640
Oy vey
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>>124671537
>except Linker
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>>124671598
>>124671642
You might as well come down right now just for fun.
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>>124671673
More like 1 hour
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Based Bushspider

release me from this mortal coil
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>>124671595
53 minutes. Then about 42 hours of game time left if it goes back up at 5am EST
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>>124671679
Pyro needs a nerf to be honest.
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>>124671679
>pyro c3 meme

is this the new archer c3
>>
Goodnight /tosg/
I love you
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>>124671679
That's more of a problem with Wizard classes in general. Most of them suck and need buffs.
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>>124671679
>Chrono back masks the pyro as he advances
>Not a pyro anymore

checkmate
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http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20151209T23&p0=904&msg=ToS+2nd+iCBT+Closure&font=slab&csz=1&swk=1
Not much left, shame if I get banned later
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>>124671962
I love you too!
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>>124671962
Sleep well, sweet dreams, see you tomorrow! :3
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>>124671679
I'll do you one better: None of the rank 7 classes are better than Pyro either
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>>124671640
The honest hard-working players are getting sent to concentration channels to avoid the great crashes, just like how my grandparents died in the shoah when they were only 6 years old!
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>>124671979
何!?
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>>124671679
Just go Chrono C3 to reset your pyro cooldowns.
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>>124671537
>Linker is a rank 3 class
When are you realistically going to need to link 10+ mobs though?
I don't think the game is even capable of successfully linking more than a few mobs before it bugs out.
I really think linker 1 or 2 would be fine.
>>
everyone blinks at the same time, it's kinda creepy
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>>124672243
>When are you realistically going to need to link 10+ mobs though?
Demon Prison.
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>>124671642
attributes are meh right now

however, the thing with Blood Bath is, if you link targets and then use Blood Bath, ALL of the link targets get affected.

I'll let the webm I linked show itself out (note I used Bloodsuckling as well)
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>>124672259
How would you know that if everyone's eyes were closed? Fucking liar
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>>124671637
The Leviathan posting made my day a lot better that's for sure.
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>>124672215
What is written on this tombstone
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Laima meet up WHEN?!
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>>124672304
>Linker being future-proof.webm
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>>124672383
wrong server friend
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>>124672304
Holy shit, how is Linker so strong? Does that heal just you or your whole party?

>>124672364
Thanks for the recommendation, I was just about to start it then I realized I didn't do my nip tongue. I'm looking forward to it.
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>>124672304
holy fuck that looks awesome
why isn't gore just a feature by default
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>>124672383
Just run an alt over here
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>>124672483
unfortunately just you, but a good sustain tool nonetheless
>>
Can anyone from the korean servers say if the Chronomancer skills are fixed? Quicken does literally nothing on our server, and Back Masking just crashed anyone that was in range.
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>>124672503
Way too much blood for a cute game like ToS.

They overdid it desu.
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>>124672304
Idk if this game will get a T rating because of this class.
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>>124672596
I'd really like to know this as well. Especially Back Masking, I want to know just what it can reverse.
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>>124672540
You sure? The new trailer showed that bloodbath also healed this other dude when he stood near it.
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Translated this.

Left to right:

>Download Client
-Available from Dec 11th, 3PM KST)

>Character Creation Preview
-Create characters early and preview the tutorial area!
-(Dec 15th, 8PM KST to Dec 16th; time not specified)
-[Game Start] button is under that.

>Event Details (The ! tooltip.)
Recieve a Hair Costume 'Luxury Hairpin' for participating in the Preview!
-You are eligible for the event if you create a character during this time period.
-Even if you make multiple characters, you will be rewarded once.
-Given out on 24th Dec. Any future information will be updated.

>Open Beta Test
-Begins 17th Dec, 3PM KST.
-[Game Start] button.
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>>124672304
Can blood sucking be interrupted on hit?
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>>124672669
oh, I thought you were referring to Bloodsuckling
yes, the pool of blood from Blood Bath indeed heals your teammates also
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>>124672743
Okay, so... what do we need to play kOBT, a KSSN or a Korean phone number or what?
>>
>>124672848
Verified Nexon KR account. Verification requires a Korean Mobile Phone number.
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>>124672806
Oh man, now I'm a bit tempted to take Featherfoot. I guess it depends on what rank 8 classes there are. I'm determined to go Chrono 3.
What's the cooldown on bloodbath?
Why doesn't physical link share heals?
>>
Screenshot what's going on right now
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>>124672948
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So what are the best full merchant builds?
>Wiz > Pyro > Linker > Pyro > Sorc > Alch C2
>Sword > Ass > Hop > Hop > Squire C3
>Cleric > Krivis > Priest C2 > Pardoner C3 (I really don't know how Cleric build works)

Something wrong?
>>
>Protag didn't like you
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>>124673105
Is Pardoner actually worth it? As far as I understand with that build you get to sell Blessing + Sacrament, Aspersion, Dispeller scrolls, and Daino scrolls. How is this more profitable than being Alchemist, aside from everyone and their dog doing the latter?
>>
>>124672383
Set one up and maybe 5 of us will show up.
>>
That's it. I'm going to level to Sapper before the ship goes down tomorrow.
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>>124672791
yes
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>>124672383
Laima mor elike Lameia am I right guys?
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>>124636013
It was great playing with you, Esperanto. Thanks for always awakening my gears.

I'll be online on my Doppel during server closure. I hope to see you there.
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>>124673105
Pardoner is a god damn mess, you probably want to have full builds like cleric 3, priest 3, or krivis 3 so you can make high level scrolls.

And the list of craftable shit gets smaller with each update it seems, at least I suggest holding on for a bit before making decissions. The most popular thing to sell on the buff shop is blessing 15 + sacrament 10, it's sorta cheap, but I guess it will be highly in demand, and you can leave like 100+ charges of each spell. making 300k overnight if everything sells.
>>
Who is Kyun?
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>>124673323
I like you, Anon.
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>maintenance on last beta day

wait what
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>>124673047
spoopy
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Sometimes I think the kiss guy and the angry at kiss guy guy are just one person each and everyone else here are super good friends. I'm going to miss you all.
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>>124672383
I'll come visit, only cause I like your name
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Hello.
We are IMCGAMES TOS Team.

We will be performing Server Maintenance from 01:00 EST to 05:00 EST on December 8, 2015.
Game Service will be unavailable for approximately 4 hour.

The following has been changed/fixed :

1) Fixed the problem of damage from the attack skill 'Out of Body' during the friendly duel.
2) Fixed the problem of not being able talk with Oracle Master.
3) Fixed the problem of skill tooltips not being printed properly.
4) Fixed the problem of client crashes occurring when using certain skills.
5) Fixed the problem of damage from "Cartar Stroke" applying incorrectly after acquiring the attribute "Cartar Stroke: Collision Damage".
6) Fixed the problem of repeatedly gaining stat points through an exploit.
7) Fixed the typos.

Thank you.
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>>124673654
>7) Fixed the typos.
>the

ALL OF THEM!?
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>>124673654
fuuuuck, sauce on that webm? is it heavy on fan service or just that part?
>>
Maybe if we all level Chronomancers and cast stop over and over the servers will stay up forever.
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>>124673795
fate/kaleid liner prisma ilya 2wei herz
it's nice
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>>124673654
What episode was this?
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>>124673795
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>>124673654
>5) Fixed the problem of damage from "Cartar Stroke" applying incorrectly after acquiring the attribute "Cartar Stroke: Collision Damage".

If this is what I think it is, Cartar Stroke's hit count is getting reduced to 4 hits, making it a lot weaker.
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>>124673795
Its mostly fanservice with buts of plots in the end
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>>124673654
>1) Fixed the problem of damage from the attack skill 'Out of Body' during the friendly duel.

Someone check Sadhu's Out of Body attack speed. I don't know if the Out of Body nerf occured before Dec 3rd, but that was the only noted change for Out of Body.
>>
>>124673925
I WANT TO SEXUALLY FUCK KURO
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>>124642747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSYxrOmQRWM

Just hype that shit up f.am.
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>>124673925
Too much yuribait keeps me from watching it.
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>>124673795

prisma ilya
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>>124673851
>>124673870
>>124673925
dayum thanks anons

so there's only 10 episodes right? at least that's all I found on nyaa
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>>124674182
3 seasons.
>>
FEATHERFOOT FEATHERFOOt FEATHERFOOT
>>
>Two or three anons engaged in serious disucssion about the balance changes
>Everyone else talking about Prisma fucking Ilya

/tosg/, folks
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>>124673546
>Using Simony for something that isn't Dispeller crafting
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>>124674513
go channel 1
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>>124674513
Just get an alt over to Kateen on Gabija, man. It's a pretty safe run
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Time is running out, anon. Declare yourself to Vakarine.
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Crashed.
>>
RIP IN PIECES

game won't be up ever again btw so if you missed the meetups then sucks to be you
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Oh God, did you crash the channel
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>>124674139
They're just friends anon. Close friends.

>>124674182
Three seasons and a buttload of loli ass ovas
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>>124674649
The faces really turn me off
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We Ch 2 now
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>female guard is a DJ for some reason
>her back is STILL bending over even in this artwork

Is her back permanently curved or what?
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>>124674929
muh immersion
>>
>>124674929
Where's her macbook?
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>>124674929
i want to insert my Penis
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>announcing the patch notes
>>
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Screenshot for maint kills the world.
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>>124675160
What's wrong with it
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>>124675339
It just seems a little odd. To do it now, especially.
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>yfw banned after maintenance
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>>124675271
Perfect.
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Hey look, someone came!
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New thread when?
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>>124675476
It is, especially if they aren't extending
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>>124675589
switch to gabija pls
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Well that was fun
>>
>>124675589
Nobody came in Zemyna too
>>
You guys are cute
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>>124675708
No it wasnt
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>>124674929
too much anal
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>>124675615
They're practicing for release.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>124674746
>>124674746
>>124674746
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>>124675747
That works I guess. It's just weird to even do one when there's just 45 hours left
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Trap, if you see this, I owe you a like and a kiss
>>
Are we starting a new thread with the most recent screenshot taken before the maint?
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>>124675917

>>124675917

>>124675917

migrate
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rip
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>>124675941
apparently not
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>>124675941
Save that sappy stuff for Wednesday.
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>>124675271
Chick in the middle's facial expression make it seem like she's got a vibe on full power sitting in her pussy.
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>>124671407
I still can't believe people posed for a second screenshot just because I was 30 seconds later to the gathering.

I sort of wanted to do a /tosg/ gathering in Zemyna as well.
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