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Metamorphosis Edition

Eyes Yet to Open >>124578207

>DLC Info (Out 24/11/2015)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbGdIdHOO3I
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/bloodborne-ps4/the-old-hunters-dlc/

>I can't access DLC, the Eye isn't showing up in the Dream!
Fix: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Planners
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
http://bloodborne.frontbuffer.com

>MP Range Calculator
https://mpql.net/tools/bloodborne/

>Screenshots
http://gematsu.com/gallery/bloodborne/
http://imgur.com/a/UsDJ2

>Guide Scans
http://justsomefaggot.imgur.com/

>Concept Art
http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_bloodborne_a.html

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules: http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Chalice Speedrun Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkznHPuGY4

>CD finds & Weapon Variants
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1163029848
http://pastebin.com/V03vDSCq
http://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3184gy/chalice_dungeon_resources_faq/

>Where to go next in BB
http://pastebin.com/kr9TbvKS

>Wikis
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com
http://bloodborne.wikidot.com/
http://bloodborne.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodborne

>I need help in Chalice Dungeons!
1. Make sure you don't have an Oath rune equipped, your network is set to Worldwide, & your chalice is set to Open
2. Set a password with at least one number & one letter (the more the better)
3. Provide glyph if necessary
4. Due to 1.05, there is no longer a way to Dungeon skip via SRRC
5. More info regarding MP for CD's @ http://pastebin.com/R2ZSmner

>Wheel, Fight Club, and Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/dD7Cv5mx
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I want to fuck Kos in the mouth.
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Freindly reminder that if you watch anime your father probably hates you and himself, knowing that he raised such a pussy for a son
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Imagine being Gehrman in that nightmare and having to be all like "damn,Kos, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your tentacles and horrific ayy lmao face. I would totally have sex with you, both me in the nightmare and the real me." when all he really wants to do is fuck Maria in the Cocktower. Like seriously imagine having to be Gehrman and not only sit in that wheelchair while Kos flaunts her disgusting tentacles in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing her stretchmarks and leathery skin, and just sit there, nightmare after nightmare, hour after hour, while she perfected that dance. Not only having to tolerate her monstrous fucking visage but her haughty attitude as everyone in the Hamlet tells her she's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, KOS LOOKS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch her broccoli looking alium face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been hunting nothing but a healthy diet of Cleric Beasts and heretics and later Fair Maidens for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Yharnam. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on her dimpled stomach as she sucks it in to writhe it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get eyes on the inside because of her "statuesque (for that is what she calls herself)" beauty, the beauty she worked so hard for with Micolash in the previous months. And then the cosmos calls for another miscarriage, and you know you could kill every single fishman in this Hamlet before the Healing Church could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Gehrman. You're not going to lose your future doll fucking career over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
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>gank squads never stop spamming their guns
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>>124596076
My mother is the one who got me into anime, and my father got me into video games. Hell, I could ask my mom for hentai recommendations if I wanted to, and I play with my dad every week or so when we aren't both working.

I'd say they're both pretty proud.
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>>124596194
>mum could give you hentai
There is an extremely high chance she touches your pp regularly
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>>124596252
I'd hate to be the one to spoil your fantasies, anon.
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>>124596076
>being this triggered

>>124596252
>implying that's bad
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New to the bowblade, what should I upgrade for the best dps? I heard skill increases the arrow damage too, but i'm guessing bloodtinge would be best?

Also, is Simon a bitch to fight?
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>>124596305
Bloodtinge increases the arrow damage, skill doesn't affect it at all. Simon just gives you the bow for free later if you leave him be.
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>>124596305
Simon uses his bow 90% of the time. I managed to kill him at BL30, it was a pain. Both SKL and BT scale with A ranking, BT affects arrow, SKL the blade. If you're not going to 50/50, then do 25/50
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>>124596110
I think, at most, it's a visual bug for abyssal gems. Maybe a patch will come, but I imagine all it will do is change the gems' representations on the status screen. It would at least explain why sharp gems can hit at least 27.2 bonus scaling but do fuck all because there isn't an "abyssal" in their name.

>>124596136
No, don't. MLGS is best described as a quality weapon with some arc damage on the side. Investing in arc for it means your tricked R2s and L2s do more damage. The rest of the moveset is fucked.
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>>124596359
>>124596393

Ok thanks
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>>124596252
>he doesn't get blowey joeys
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If you attack simon and fail to kill him will he still be at the same spot?
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So guys what do you think of Vaati's new video?
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>>124596506
Holy Moonlight Sword is a projectile weapon for pure arcane builds, and a melee weapon for quality builds. Beam spam with 50arc is more than enough reason to use the thing.
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>tfw invading in beast form, roaring and baiting hoontas into enemies.
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My mind is blown right now guys. So the Reiterpallsch is not that much weaker than the threaded cane and it scales a tiny bit harder but even with the skill scaling gem it doesn't seem like it would be worth taking over the threaded cane as back up to Rifle Spear. What do you guys think?
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>>124596675
Stuff it with brainsucker gems and shoot people.
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>the Rakuyo has different combos for the L2 depending on if it's done after an R1 or an R2

Time to start leveling that 50 SKL build and be a so called "shitter"
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>>124596853
thanks m8. i own you
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>>124596675
All scaling gems before abyssal are shit, and there are no abyssal skill scaling gems. That's why your skill scaling gem is shit.
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>literally beast cutter
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>>124596950
segmented swords have been an anime staple since the beginning of time senpai
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who Cock-Addled Hunter here
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>>124596860
Don't know why, but the quick jab r2 gets me turbo hard
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If there is something in this game that truly triggers my autism that has to be the bowblade.
Does the fancy mechanism of this shit even make any sense?
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>>124597078
>"It just works."
> - Simon the Harrowed
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>>124596835
thats cool. I didn't go arcane, I went skill but I might try this on another character
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>>124597078
It doesn't, but none of the trick weapons do, if you get down to the details
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>>124597165
Reiterpallasch doesn't get any scaling off the flat arc because it's a split damage weapon, so the bullets still scale with only bloodtinge. It's just that the flat arc gems add their damage on top of everything, including bullets.
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Cute?
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>>124597430
thats crazy. I had no idea that arcane worked like that outside of the papers
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what build for bow? any weapon to accompany it well? pls help this noob out, just finished my first ever playthrough as a generic quality build
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>>124597437
Looks like a dude taking pills to turn into a female
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>>124595905
How do you guys keep changing the OP?
One of us will put more info or change something, like
>CD finds & Weapon Variants
to
>Chalice Dungeon Glyphs for Gems, Weapons, Runes, etc. Please update
and you fuckers go back to old outdated shit.

Just pay attention, holy shit.
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Robin too strong
http://strawpoll.me/6201206/
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>>124597437
Nose is too long, personally.
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>>124597476
It doesn't, all flat damage gems do that. Flat arcane gems are the easiest to farm for though, since all of the others only appear in chests. Regular arcane %damage gems wouldn't actually do anything on the Reiter.
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>>124597203
Excluding the threaded cane and the beast cutter almost all the trick weapos can more or less be replicated IRL with a samller size.
I even saw a guy replicate the saw cleaver in metal with almost exactly the same mechanism like in the game
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>that feel when more in sync with NPC's than the goddamn host.

How do you feel about people summoning Old Hunters and co-opers?
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>>124597437
I'd marry him, good job anon!
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>>124597203
The Axe would be pretty easy to make
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>>124596835
I shoot for 180-225 with 27.2%'s on my BL43.
Think I'd do more with those?
That's also the damage vs other players, not NPC's.
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>>124597496
>>124597586
>>124597717

bullies desu...
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Is the DLC OST out yet?
I need it in my life
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>>124595905
someone draw ayyhunter and beasthunter in Jojo poses

also i just realized, when micolash talks about kos (or kosm) and asks if he can hear our prayers.... considering the old ones he aligned with are mergo and mensis.
he was talking to the hunter or more like trying to contact kos through the hunter ?
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>>124597714
Co-op is great, but only after doing your first playthrough solo. Otherwise, you can't really say you beat the game, can you?
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>>124597776
I'm not bullying! she's a cute girl but she'd be an even cuter boy! you really did do a good job
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i can never tell when someone is actually saying senpai and desu or if they're trying to say f a m and t b h
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>>124597741
Best way to make the bullet damage pretty is either farming bloodlickers for their weirdly common off shapes, or farming gun watchers for their 31% off shapes. 27.2% physicals are the easy way out.

>>124597837
Micolash is wearing the Byrgenwerth student uniform, using Choir spells, and babbling about Kos, Rom, and the cosmos. Why would you think he's aligned with Mensis?
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>>124597905
well, you can if you're not autistic.
so that rules most of us out.
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>>124597905
not that poster but you're sort of right. Some of us just lack skill per say. its the way life works. I think i'm at my skill ceiling because the dlc is absolutely brutal to me. like I just can't parry or anything. Its been a truly terrible experience and I haven't even taken out ludwig.
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>>124597714
I will only ever co-op if I've beaten the boss by myself already. So it's usually, first character is a run through, 2nd and up is jolly co-op.
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>>124597964
I thought Micolash was the head of the Mensis group.
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>>124597631
>>124597739
Yeah I mean they can be recreated, sure, but anything that's folding/clicking/attaching/whatever is very rarely practical, or safe, in combat situations

Imagine the hammer part of the Kirkhammer accidentally detaching mid-combat onto your leg
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>>124597837

There's already a picture of that, with the ayylien at least.

Ayys vs. Ferals fight club when?
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IT AIN'T FAIR MAN
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>>124597964
well the brain of mensis is hanging around in his castle

it´s more about him saying his intro as a reaction to the hunter being connected to kos
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>>124598025
Same for me, but i'm more autistic and actually refuse to use crutch items like fire paper/resins on my first playthrough as well
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>>124598025
>Co-op for a boss and kill him with a friend
>try the boss on my own and die
>decide to ring
>the guy I helped kill it before comes and helps me kill it now

It is an oddly warm feeling to be reminded me that a Hunter is never alone.
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>>124598041
Which would be silly to think, because the game says nothing on the subject at all. He uses choir stuff, has a mensis cage, and is host of the nightmare (whatever the isometric fuck that's supposed to mean). He's a confusing character in all ways.
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>>124597792
Check the archive if you want it.
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>>124597714
the old hunters usually get in the way. They stagger bosses out of parry/backstab animations and steal visceral attacks (doing no damage in the process).
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>>124598056
>let's talk about the realism of trick weapons
>ok I'm going to start with the hammer that is as large as the character and is held up (and wielded by) a sword the size of an arm and as thin as 2 HDMI cables on the inside of it

You must be real fun at parties.
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>Please, bring to an end the horror…
>So our forefathers sinned?
>We hunters cannot bear their weight forever…
>It isn’t fair, it just isn’t fair

It really got to me when Simon said these things, usually i don't get emotional from NPC dialogue in souls games
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I'm really, really liking the Boom Hammer... why does it have to be so... basic?

What are the chances of From patching it to be better? Will that ever happen?
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>>124598265
Have you never heard Gehrman talking in his sleep?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rLtdiFaV8k
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>>124598060
i´d love to see the two drawn like this
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Anyone around SL 30-50 that wants to take on ludwig? He's been giving me shit for 5 hours now
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>>124598319
Nothing wrong with basic. And no.
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>>124598146
>He uses choir stuff
Mensis and the Choir started as literally the same group of people and were tightly knit until the moon ritual shit began. ACB/AoE are not exclusive to either party, and Micolash is not the only Mensis scholar to use ACB anyway.
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>>124597837
No actual Jojo pose gesture in game
what a shame
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>>124597964
>Best way to make the bullet damage pretty is either farming bloodlickers for their weirdly common off shapes, or farming gun watchers for their 31% off shapes. 27.2% physicals are the easy way out.
It's a 43 skill twink, I just never though to apply flat-arc gems to it. I'd probably just revert to phys gems anyway since I'd lose out on the weapon damage.

>>124598265
Sounded like a whiny baby to me. Like, just move out, nigga.
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>>124598402
Actually, you're right about that. DLC introduced a new NPC with lots of phantasm stuff.

It's weird that the item description would call it Choir gear, then.
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>>124598265
Yeah, Simon was sort of forced in and relatively out of place but that last bit really stuck.

Still have no idea why they didn't use a character already in the lore or one that had implied lore, especially when we LITERALLY got 0 executioner lore and 0 HoH lore in the DLC
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>>124598354
I have but it didn't really get to me
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>>124598361
that´s kinda low for ludwig unless you´re a god at dodging.
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>>124598480
Well, the flat arc would apply to weapon damage too. So all of your melee attacks would be getting the +200~ arcane damage on top of natural skill scaling. How much are you already getting with whatever gems you have?
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anyone tried to npc hunter for paarl?

don't want to summon him if he;s only going to die 10 seconds into the fight
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>>124598615
He doesn't die surprisingly, but he doesn't do much damage either. He's a distraction though, and that's really helpful against Paarl.
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>>124598615
he´s not completly worthless , but don´t expect him to survive the fight
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Who's doing the narration at the end?
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>>124598496
What more do you need from the HoH or the executioners?
The executioners are a small, fanatic group of church hunters that really, really hate vilebloods and specialize in hunting them instead of beasts. The HoH are hunters that put down blood-addled hunters before they can go on a rampage and cause problems for the hunt, or become beasts themselves. They're mercy-killers.

That's all you really need to know. There's no more story there to tell.
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I'm going to make a STR build focused on the ayymygdala arm, is there any other relevant stats other than VIT/END/STR ?

And is there anything I need to do before killing Amelia and rushing through the dlc ?
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>>124598730
of the dlc ? gherman
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>>124598146
>and is host of the nightmare (whatever the isometric fuck that's supposed to mean)

I really don't think it's that confusing post-DLC.

A Great One can establish a separate layer of reality through sheer willpower, and it can be shaped by a host

The two concrete examples are:

MP+Hunter's Dream+Gehrman
Mergo (Wet Nurse depending on who you're talking to)+Yahar'gul Nightmare Inception Edition+Micolash
Orphan of Kos+Yharnam and the Hamlet+Maria/Laurence/Ludwig is the iffy one, simply because it's never specified who the host is and FROM said the DLC was supposed to be split into two originally so it's hard to say if there were supposed to be two separate hosts and two separate nightmares originally, but I'd say Maria is the likely host simply because she's at the pinnacle of it all. Wouldn't explain Ludwig's nightmare tidbit, though, since I doubt she got to meet him while she was alive.
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>>124597486
pls respond
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>>124598569
I know, but im doing a low level playthrough and I need the rakuyo for cosplay purposes
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>>124598763
pure str gets you max damage with amy arm/ pizza and kirk

if you decide to pump skill to 25, you also have max damage with saw cleaver, ludwigs, axe

or you could put some points into arc for tools and MLGS
up to you
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Where do you guys think I should go next?

I'm level 65, I just beat Ebrietas, and I've attempted Logarius a few times but I seem to always get him down to just under 1/4 health, then I get stabbed by a million flying swords then combo'd.

Is he weak to anything? Bolt and Firepapers don't seem to do much.

Should I just go take on Micolash, and get the Bloodrock to +10 my Sawcleaver, and maybe find some better gems then attempt him again? Or is now a good time to try the DLC and maybe finish some chalices?

Stats:
25 vit
16 end
35 str
25 skill
base bt and arc

+10% stamina, all damage down +4%, more echoes, and +2% hp while co-oping runes.

+9 sawcleaver with I think +18%, +12% and flat 7, and whatever droplet from Father Gas.
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I'm doing a forbidden forest co-op character with simon's bowblade, where should I go to get the best possible gems?
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>>124598842
Ludwig is a hunter. Hunters end up in the hunter's nightmare. It's not rocket science to figure out what happened to his ass.
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>>124598842
ludwig got pulled into the nightmare by being a blood crazed hunter
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>>124598952
How did you manage to beat Ebrietas but not Logarius?
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How much sense does it have to upgrade strenght over 60? Im using pizza cutter
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>>124598857
full bt build (50bt)
14skill/ str lets you use tricked bloodletter and chikage

use saw spear too because it doesn't scale that well anyway
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>>124598842
Host is orphan, he's keeping the promise his mother made for the fish people allive.
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>>124598763
If you aren't doing 50str/25arc and filling your lost Amygdalan Arm with abyssal nourishing gems from Amygdala, you're doing it wrong.

>>124598842
It really only gets confusing when you try to work out what "hosts" actually do. You can see Nightmare Frontier from Nightmare of Mensis, and you can see the ship masts off the coast of Nightmare Frontier in Orphan's arena, and you can see Yharnam itself below the water from the beginning of Fishing Hamlet. I'm pretty sure all the Nightmare areas are just the same giant Nightmare dimension, and hosts don't really affect anything at all.
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>>124598952
Loggy tip

Backstab him while he does his animu powerup to prevent the phase change
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>>124598952
Logarius should be beaten before Rom. You're pretty deep into the game to still be having problems with him. Protip: you can destroy the little sword thing spawning the projectiles. You can even lock on to it and just shoot it with your gun.
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>>124598952
ebrietas is much harder

go to 30 vit and then get 2 hp runes (puts you up to like 38 vit)
he'll be easy then

and wear tomb prospector set because it has good arc def but still alright phys
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For people that don't read HP lovecraft, most of the realms are inter connected, dreams and nightmares included
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>>124598979
>If you never kill Orphan, you'll eventually end up in the Nightmare.
>Unlike the other hunters you find, you're so strong that you'll keep on living.
>Eventually you too will become a horrible abomination like Ludwig or Laurence.

That's an interesting thought that they could allude to in any kind of sequel. Place clues that X boss is the Good Hunter from the first game. And have them on multiple bosses just to fuck with people.
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>>124599041
A Great One can't be the host, don't be absurd.
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>>124599081
on my first playthorugh logarius gave me more trouble than any other of the late game bosses
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>>124598941
Thanks
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>>124598952
Clear depth 2 root dungeons for +15% physical gems, upgrade your weapon to +6 or +7, and melt his ass.
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>>124598496
Yeah, if there is one thing i'd outright criticize about Bloodborne it's lack of interesting NPCs.

When i think about how many lines of dialogue you can squeeze out of Hawkeye Gough in Dark Souls 1 for example depending on what you do Bloodborne really just pales in comparison.
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>>124598952
Destroy the sword he plunges into the ground, that's what summons the flying swords. He's strong agains arcane, fire and bolt IIRC. The trick is to parry and visceral him. Before he goes super saiyan you can stagger him too quite easily.
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>>124599025
never go past 50
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>>124598265

Try speaking to Ludwig's headwithout wearing church gear.
>crazed mixture of whinnying and screaming

Couldn't put him out of his misery quick enough
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>>124598595
Oh yeah, that's true.
25skl/10blt/8arc, non-trick does, vs players, ~320, trick does ~275, tricked R2 shots do 180-225.

I'll just fuck around with it later today. Thanks for the idea though brah.
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>>124599168
From has a habit of doing shit like that. One of the armored core games has you fighting the player character of the last game as a boss.
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>>124598235
And I just realized that the hammer part is actually a fuckin stone.
Speaking about the bow it looks like those branch thingies pinch the blades to hold them in place, and have some kind of spring inside that gives tension to the bow
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>>124599021


Because Ebrietas was a joke?
>Beastblood pellet
>Bolt paper
>Hit it once to engage battle and its HP bar
>R1 L1 L1 L1 L1 to boost beast
>she falls down
>don't visceral and just combo head
>she starts charging up or some garbage with her head down
>just unload on her with R1's and she died.

10/10 fight.

>>124599081
This is great advice thanks. I was trying to basically run to the other end of the arena and fight him around pillars to avoid them.
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>>124599168
Probably not, because Moon Presence is nameless.

>>124599198
Stabbing him in the back while he's trying to buff will prevent the whole super saiyan thing.
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So according to From Soft the DLC was originally supposed to be split into two seperate DLC, but no matter how much i think about i simply can't think of a spot where the first DLC could have ended without it either being retarded, or one of the DLCs having significantly less content.

Where do you think was the original split?
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>>124599323
>Probably not, because Moon Presence is nameless.
who said anything about names?
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>>124599349
Maria has final boss vibes
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>>124597969
>>124598023
The bosses are designed with single player in mind. If you add another player, the boss has to focus on one of you, which gives the other person breathing room. You're not meant to have that breathing room, and having it destroys the tight design of the bosses. Just get better at using i-frames and you can beat the game with 10 Vit.
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>>124599349
DLC 1 Hunter's Nightmare

DLC2 Research Hall + Fishing Hamlet
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>>124599472
Yeah but imagine them putting 2 areas, and 4 bosses into the first DLC and then the second DLC literally just being Fishing Hamlet

I doubt that's where the split would happen.
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>>124599349

We would have gotten more content if there were 2 dlc, there is stuff missing because deadlines and pressure.
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>>124599349
dlc 1 ludwig and laurence

dlc 2 maria and kos

it was probably planned to be episodic dlc from the beginning
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>>124599349
They probably meant that they originally intended to have 2 separate DLCs, but when they began working on the first one, they decided to just put all their assets into making it and only do one instead of 2.

I seriously doubt they were working on 2 separate DLCs simultaneously, complete with their own level design and then just suddenly up and decided to take all the work they'd done so far and moosh it into one amalgamation of content. They probably just decided to put twice as much work into the first dlc instead of making a 2nd.
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>>124599349
Everything pre-research hall would be the first DLC, and everything research hall and after would be the second DLC. First one is about hunters, beasts, and the church experimenting on beasts with Ludwig and Laurence as bosses, and second one is about ayyliums, people being turned into ayyliums and experimented on by the church, and Maria/Orphan as bosses. No, Living Failures isn't a boss, it's an interlude.

Final prize for the first DLC would've been beastmode, and penultimate prize for the second DLC would be kinmode.
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>>124599543
>>124599472
>>124599349
Yeah, Maria clearly was an ending to the DLC.

I'm betting they were going to have four areas, but when they ran into trouble either with time, creativity, or budget, they nixed one of them and we got what we have now.
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>>124599349
I think:

>Hunters Nightmare and Research Facility was meant to be one DLC
>Ludwig, Living Failures, Maria and Laurence
4 bosses keeps it fairly in line with Artorias and the Dark Souls 2 DLC's.

Most likely why they combined it was that they had no idea what else to add in the fishing hamlet.
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>>124598754
It's fun to write one-liners like that and make it sound like they couldn't do with more fleshing out, and you can do something similar with Cainhurst who got some fleshing out through the DLC anyway, but HoH/Executioners were in dire need of actual story and got absolutely none

Executioners being the more prevalent of the two, by far.

>Church took after our holy shawl, but we're an order of church hunters
>We really, really hate the Vilebloods for using a brand of blood that the church acknowledges does bad things
>Good thing no other blood does bad things
>MAN WE REALLY HATE THOSE FUCKIN VILEBLOODS THOUGH
>Our leader is undead just like theirs though haha
>And uses blood magic just like they do
>Also we use it sometimes too
>We also use Cainhurst relics with incredulous frequency
>Our weapon is called Logarius' Wheel but Logarius doesn't use it and never once did
>He has a scythe shaped like a Pthumerian Elder firescythe and a weapon from a previous game and is way too tall to be human but don't mind it
>PYRAMIDHEAD

They're either the "useless fact book" of the Bloodborne world or needed a few fucking lines of story to make them remotely cohesive.

HoH are a really shitty one shot, the idea is cool but gameplay/story wise it ends up sort of just being an Eileen circlejerk, the Executioners as well. There's no actual depth to being in either covenant, whereas Confederates and Vilebloods both get some motivation.

>Vilebloods
>Killing top-of-the-food-chain hunters for Blood Dregs to stuff up their queen's cooch for a Great One child

>Confederates
>Cleansing the world of Vermin, a task they righteously took up as they're the only ones who can see them

>Executioners
>REEE VILEBLOODS REEE
>No Vilebloods you can actually kill in-game unless you do Eileen's story

>HoH
>Eileen handed me a badge
>sweet
>gonna go pvp with this now haha
>random chance to pvp with otherwise friendly hosts

Should've been a new NPC. Meeting Eileen's mentor would've been cool.
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Does the beasthood meter increase faster the more damage you deal, or is it entirely based on which attacks you use?
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>>124599168
>Bloodborne 2
>the hunter is the final boss
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>>124598819
Nah, that's the guy in the cloak at the very start of the fishing hamlet
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>>124599528
oh I know and I don't doubt it. I'm just saying some people are bad and can't improve. these things DO happen lol
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No love for the most "special" girl?
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What is the etiquette on Online IDs? Is it okay uploading a video to YouTube with people's PSN IDs on display, or should I change it to their character's name in the settings?
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>>124599647
>Bloodborne 2
>Everything is the same but slightly different ala Dark Souls 2
>Reads your save file of Bloodborne, and takes your most played character's equipment setup, shears off a leg, and recycles the gehrman fight

I'd probably still get it.
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>>124599647
>It's not called Bloodborne 2
>It's called something completely the fuck else
>Great One implications are spread thin as fuck, maybe one or two references
>No one's even called a hunter anymore
>Boss's name is "The Last Hunter" and is a fucked up beast/great one megafuck
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>>124599647
it would make 1 of the 3 ending canon and i doubt from would do that

you fight a hunter , a wheelchair host boss and squid boss and all three of them are hinted to be the good hunter, but not outright statet.
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>>124599647
>Bloodborne 2
>you are the final boss
>you beat it by deleting your character
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>>124599561
This desu.

The plan was probably 2 DLCs before they began developing it, and then while they were developing it they were just like fuck it and put it all into one. I'm also sure that we would've gotten a little bit more content, like one additional area if it really was 2 DLCs, since the deadline would be different.
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>>124599709
>not having it to character name in the first place
I like it when I summon people and they either have a retarded name or their name matches their character. Plus I hate the fact that I have a shitty PSN ID and Sony has no fucking way of letting me change it. I don't want to make a new account either because I have purchases linked to this one.
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>>124599701
>takes like 20 endurance to swing it twice
>has less range than my dick
it's shit m8
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So I am at a crossroads..
I only did a STR Character but now I am at BL 86 with 40 vit 20 end 50 str 13 skill and base.
Should I go the 25 skl for more damage and eventual claws?
Right now I am enjoying using Amy Arm.
Should I go ALL IN VIT?
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>>124599865

Other people still see your psn name if they have it set to psn, its just you who sees their character names.
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>>124599831
Nah, it'd be easy.
You just have to have more than one reference to the Good Hunter's fate.

Maybe you fight a big ass Great One, and it drops the Doll's comb, implying that this great one knew the Doll.

Or you have a beast that drops something similarly related to the Good Hunter.

And so on.
For added fucker, they could make it so you can only ever fight one of them in a play through.
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>>124599945
I know that, but it helps me cope with the pain of not being able to name change and hoping that other people set it to character names also.
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>>124599803
>The Last Hunter
No.
"The Good Hunter" is the title of the final boss.
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>>124600014
I do it anon, i do it...
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>>124599196
Funny thing, I actually just discovered a fuckton of bloodborne dialogue I had never heard before yesterday while grabbing all the NPC's

>attacking Gilbert's window
>attacking Iosefka's window
>visiting gascoigne's house with gascoigne dead and not visiting it once before that point
>Ludwig Church Hunter oufit yes/no and without CH outfit, killing him either way
>Adelle church outfit on/off
>killing her slutty butt

etc.
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>>124600014
Just make another PSN account and use that for future digital purchases and DLC lol
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>>124599865
Post the ID for keks.
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>>124599841
If it had been 2 DLCS, the 2nd one would've probably been something else completely. I think the extra time and manpower was just put into fleshing out the first one and making it as good as it was, as well as stuffing as many weapons as they could into it.

That's one thing, I think. They probably had the weapon and spells planned at first and then decided to just put them all into 1 DLC. That's why a lot of them just seem haphazardly handed to you and the density of weapons is so high.

I'll also bet that the beast rune was a last minute addition and flaming cleric beast as a bit of a last minute recycle just for the sake of having some proper way to earn it.
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>>124599831
But from does that all the time with their other series. Even DaS2 assumes that DaS1 ended with someone linking the fire.
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>>124600043

Now I want to see The Good Hunter's fucked-up beastly form
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>>124599865
Why not make another account? I started a new account a couple years ago after having my old one for years and it's not a big deal. You can switch back to your old account to play your old games, but just start playing stuff on the new account and it'll feel better over time. The sooner you start on your new account, the better.
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>>124599929
any help with this?
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>>124600109
Nah, they put too much work into Laurence for him to have been a last minute thing. If he was Blue Smelter 2.0 I'd agree.
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>>124600187
>The Good Hunter
Good is an adjective, not a title. Just because the Doll calls you that doesn't mean that's your title.
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>>124600109
Honestly i feel like both the Beast and Milkweed rune were very last minute additions. The models are really bland and i also feel as though it's more fan service than anything else.

Does being able to change into a beast/kin and back at will really go with the lore? I don't think so. So yeah i think it really was 100% fan service, because so many people were very disappointed that there was no beast mode in the game.
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>>124600125
someone linked the fire , but it´s not clear if it was the CU or just some other bloke like solaire.
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>>124599929
Claws don't really need skill, you can use them just fine with only strength. For maximum claw fun, pick up two abyssal heavy gems in chalice dungeons.

Raise vit to 50, and raise arcane to 15 for all those super useful buff tools.
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>>124600125
>But from does that all the time with their other series. Even DaS2 assumes that DaS1 ended with someone linking the fire.

HOLY FUCK
H O L Y F U C K


REDDIT DETECTED

DARK SOULS 2 IMPLIES NOTHING ABOUT THE CHOSEN UNDEAD LINKING THE FIRE OR NOT

IT IMPLIES THAT EVEN IF YOU DONT LINK THE FIRE YOU'LL GO HOLLOW AND THE NEXT FUCK WILL ANYWAY UNTIL INEVITABLY THAT SHITTY FLAME GETS LIT

THE ENTIRE POINT OF DS2 WAS THAT AN AGE OF DARK CAN NEVER LAST AND THAT THE SERPENTS WERE TRIPLECROSSING FUCKS

FUCK YOU VAATI FUCK YOU DAVECONTROLLIVE PLAY THE FUCKING GAMES SO THAT YOU DONT LEAD YOUR SHITTY FANBASE TO DUMB FUCKING CONCLUSIONS

REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>124600317
First off, you wouldn't even want to refer to the character as a hunter, unless they're human, for the most part. It's too on the nose. You want there to be a degree of wiggle room.
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>>124599701
Gratia sliders when?
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>>124600202
>>124600089
If you have a Vita then it's a pain in the ass because you have to wipe it every single time you want to change PSN IDs. My PSN ID has Vita purchases linked to it so I'd rather not switch accounts. I'm just going to hope one day Sony lets me change the ID.
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>>124600125

DaS 2 is not canon though
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>>124600361
>Dark Souls 2 has ANY point
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
right back at ya, buddy
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>>>124600452
Sony will never change it, topkeklord69analboy.
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>>124600243
He literally is Blue Smelter. That boss had one or 2 new attacks, too. His second phase has like 3 attacks and they could recycle the model rigging from Ludwig's spit for the lava spit, as well as recycle most of the attacks from the crawling swamp zombie dudes for most of his attacks (which is exactly what they did). Laurence's 2nd phase has like 3 actually new animations. He's mostly just a patchwork of recycled animations, which more than anything is a sign that he came into being as a concept near the end of the animation portion of their dev cycle, since they only have so much time to access a mocap studio.

Laurence was an afterthought.
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>>124600361
Slow the fuck down, retard. Miyazaki said in an interview for DaS1 that Solaire links the fire in his own world after helping the player with Gwyn. DaS2's dev said in an interview that the ashes you find for your estus flask were Solaire's dust, after he cooked himself to link the flame. And if DaS1's Dark Lord ending was canon, there wouldn't be a DaS2 for exactly the reasons illusion Gwynevere says.

This isn't rocket science.
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>>124600361
Slow down anon. At the end of DS1 someone does link the fire, either you or Solaire. But you're right in the sense that DS2 says nothing has nothing to do with this, however.
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>>124599701
>>124600450
How does Gratia even look like?
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>>124600452
Keep your old account for Vita games, but use your new account for PS4. Or get used to factory resetting your Vita when you want to switch accounts. Or buy another Vita for the new account. Or stay sad.
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>>124600537
>Miyazaki said in an interview for DaS1 that Solaire links the fire in his own world after helping the player with Gwyn


[Citation needed]
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>>124600361
wat.

isn't the whole point that you're meant to make your own conclusions? I think it's a fair call to say that in DS2 the chosen undead in DS1 linked the fire, but also it is very likely that by the time DS2 came about, there had been a few ages of fire or dark

let's be civil, friend
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>>124600526
What's funny is that even if any of that shit is true, that's still way more work than they put into Blue Smelter.
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>>124600501
I like when people make this argument like they have no idea what a trilogy would look like

>dark souls 1
oh shit it's a cycle

>dark souls 2
shit let's break it familias

>dark souls 3
THERE WAS A POINT WERE WE SHOULD'VE STOPPED AND WE HAVE CLEARLY PASSED IT BUT LETS KEEP GOING AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS

DS2 mirrors that fine with the crown shit, people should be mad that they waited until the DLC's to tell the fucking story, not that it "didn't have a story at all"

>>124600537
>This isn't rocket science

Is this a new meme or something?
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>>124600537
source
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>>124600508
The only time I've ever seen Sony let someone change their account name was when they were reported for an offensive name. If your name can be considered vulgar or racist then get a friend to report you and PSN might force you to pick a new name. The other possibility is that you get banned though.
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>>124600317
It's the fan's name for the player character. In each game, the fans refer to the pc by the name that your level-up waifu uses. DeS is the Slayer of Demons, DaS2 is the Bearer of the Curse, Bloodborne is the Good Hunter, DaS1 doesn't have a level up waifu but titty lady and toothy dick both call you Chosen Undead so that stuck.

If you were going to reuse the pc character as a boss in an act of pure fanservice, you might as well refer to them by the name that the fans do.
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>>124600354
>super useful buff tools
Which Tools are good for the Beast Claw? I thought Beast mode has a built-in Roar in its moveset.
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>>124599701

>Fuckhuge Huntress with a penchant for beating the shit out of beasts
>can't break down a wooden door and dies curled up in the corner

Gratia a shit
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>>124600609
Go read the fucking Design Works nigga
If you go Dark Lord Solaire will unfuck your decision. It was Miyazaki talking about the whole 'your decision is meaningless' aspect without devoting an entire game to the concept.
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>>124600782
anime bone and beast roar tool

the built in roar is ass
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>>124600564
Probably exactly like the giant lady corpse you find her fist on. She has a red ponytail.

>>124600609
I could go search the entire internet for it if I didn't just wake up, and I'd probably find it. In fact, I probably have the exact interview in my bookmarks somewhere. But it's too early for this shit and you're overreacting in a silly way, so instead I'm going to pull a random link and hope it's the right one. So here you go.

http://pastebin.com/u/kaelsmith
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>>124600782
>Beast mode
>Good

senpai...
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>>124600770

>DaS1 doesn't have a level up waifu

and this is why it will never be the best souls game
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>>124600770
I didn't know that. Thanks for making me feel foolish.
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>>124600317
>Not a title
It's his Cosmic Entity Title, anon, these are facts.
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>>124600883
No shit Gratia is the corpse, but what does she LOOK like. Pictures, I need pictures of Gratia.
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>>124600884
b-but muh jump & roar into ACB combo that's guaranteed to kill anything and everything
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>>124600685
Because they put way more work into bloodborne than DaS2. There's really no comparing the two games other than the fact that it's a meme to hate one, and a meme to fanatically ignore all flaws in the other.

"It's okay when bloodborne/miyazaki does it!"
Face it, Laurence is a shitty, low-effort last minute copout made entirely of recycling content. Recycling content seems to be a recurring theme in bloodborne, what with you fighting the same enemies for half of the game across various different areas. It's just okay when miyazaki does it
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>>124600721
Nonsense. Dark Souls 1 and 3 are a story and probably will flow directly into each other. Dark Souls 2 is fanfiction and AT BEST it takes place in an alternate reality, Star Trek-style.
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>>124600902
good job baka
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>>124600885
DaS1 didn't have a level up waifu, and instead it had the most interesting NPCs in the entire series, who actually feel like they live a life of their own and don't center around you. The amount of different dialogue you can get out of NPCs in Dark Souls depending on what you do is immense.
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>>124600782
The Beast Roar tool is basically Force from DaS1, but better. Beastmode's built-in roar is entirely different: it doesn't knock shit down and only staggers, it does minimal damage, it's slower to startup, and it builds minuscule beasthood.
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>>124600782
The built-in roar is shit, It is every bit as slow but only staggers instead of knocking back, and doesn't stagger long enough to be useful.
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>>124600782
The roar is just a stagger/reflect tool. The damage buff comes from the free beast pellet mode. It's basically a berserk meter. The roar is a bit OP in PvE though as it can stagger literally everything, even bosses like Maria.

You can either go bolt paper and be a dark beast or do a STR + ARC quality build and use the shell for the retardedly OP arcane buff. Personally I did the latter because I like easily-renewed resources and bullets are way easier to get than bolt paper.
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>>124600885
Well to be fair the level up waifu is still in the game, she's just a boss instead.
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>>124600984
>ACB
You're rolling Arc with Beast Claw? Sounds fun as fuck. Any good?
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>>124601118
Maria has no poise, dude,. Everything staggers her.
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>>124601009
I agree.

You can't really disagree on that point.

>recycling content seems to be a recurring theme in bloodborne

More like a FROM thing in general.

You'd think Demon's Souls has nothing to contribute to Bloodborne, but the sheer quantity of sound effects from it is staggering.

Dark Souls 3 is looking to have an absolute fuckload of stuff from Bloodborne just straight ripped. It wouldn't surprise me if no reviewer even mentions this because most of them are PKeks or Xboners more then likely.
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>>124601010
yeah same dude

- Vaa "girls in white church outfits are amelia" Ti
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>>124600839
She was probably succumbing to the beast blood and punched herself in the stomach to death
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So I miseed out on going to Hypogean Gaol, I killed rom the spider, then I killed bloodstarved beast.

And I don't think I can go there because the worlds all fucked up. Is there anyway I can get there now?
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>>124601038
The lack of colour correction in your image is triggering my autism.
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>>124600984
>>124601140
Arc beast claws actually sounds pretty great.
You could slot a bolt gem on them and become darkbeast.
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>>124601225
>Xboners
Do these people even still exist?
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>>124601264
Hypogean Gaol is the same lamp you found the three npc hunters at.
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>>124601264
Unseen Village = Gaol

The only thing you missed out on are maybe some twin shards, since now the bagmen are dead and have chunks on them
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>>124601264
The area that was Hypogean Gaol is now Yahar'gul. You can still kill Paarl, but you've missed out on the NPCs/items that were there.
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>>124601225
I think many people are noticing reocurring themes nowadays across the souls games. Just take the bloated head people in Oolacile with all the eyes. And i think Miyazaki is aware of this issue, and i think it's good that he calls the series quits after DaS3
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>>124601264
If Rom's dead then you can't go to Gaol anymore. You have to get there the hard way, fighting through the hordes of respawning red phantom enemies and lasers.

All of the items and stuff and paarl will still be there waiting for you, but the church bitch will be dead.
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>>124601284
The amount of cute in you is triggering my heart
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>>124601285
iirc doing this fucks with beasthood.
also it was a joke, someone came in here yesterday and was ranting about how good his beast mode combo was. By the end it had a whole bunch of conditions piled on top of it to work at all.
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>>124601285
Arc claws are kinda shit since beasthood only boosts physical damage but still reduces your defenses. I'm sure you could hit some interesting numbers with three abyssal cold gems, but you'd want 99 insight and clothes with low beasthood so your defense penalty doesn't go any higher than -20%.
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>>124601371
By NPCs, do you mean Adella?
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>>124601361
>>124601362
>>124601371
>>124601395

EEAAAAH. I see. Thanks for that boys.
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>>124601381

I mean good.

Bloodborne had its moments, and felt fairly unique, but it still seems so derivative of other media.

Hunter attire straight ripped from french films, majority of the mythos heavily influenced by Lovecraft, and theres still a berserk reference here and there.
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>>124601505
yep
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i just noticed that the Menstrual Blood Theory got debunked since you get Adeline blood from that Syringe on her arm.
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>Archibald completely missing
>Ayysefka still doesn't make any sense
>Executioners still have no lore
>Maria doesn't have a dad
>Oedon is no less vague than he was before
>Arianna and Adelle are still dead ends
>Fucking darkbeasts
>FROM literally cannot make more than one complete DLC per game
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>>124600853
But Solaire went crazy and tried to kill me. He's dead.
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>>124601630
>Menstrual Blood Theory
That only applied to Dark souls I think, anon.
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>>124601630
It's funny that Miyazaki would go so far as to strap an NPC into a chair so you have to draw blood from her yourself just to refute that particular fanfiction.
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>>124601643
B-b-b-b-b--but in Lordran the flow of time is convoluted

:^)

Please subscribe to my channel for more lore videos.
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>>124601643
not canon senpai
one of the only things in DS1 that explicitly isn't, actually
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Selling my soul for a ludwig kill, alternatively I can help you with a boss of your picking.
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Man, even at lowish levels Flamesprayer and a fire saw spear just beats up the earlier chalices and takes their lunch money.
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>>124601759
Level and password, m80. Afterwards, you and I are going on a trip.
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Why is being an ayy so damn fun?

>invade research hall
>catch the host and his jolly cocksuckers just as they come up the elevator
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>>124601381
I don't think it's really an issue. It's one thing to reuse visual themes and concepts between games, and it's pretty benign if the only assets you're recycling are engine code and sfx samples. BB's problem is more with the fact that the same enemies appear and reappear so many times in so many different places throughout the game. Considering that your first real combat encounter is a horde of yharnam villagers with the pitchfork variant, the sabre variant, the sickle variant, the shield variant, the gun variant and the torch AWAY AWAY variant, and the brick dude and the dog; the fact that you encounter these same enemies in Central Yharnam, Cathedral Ward, the path to Hemwick, Forbidden Woods, Yahar'gul and the Hunter's Nightmare is pretty silly. They're primary enemies for almost half of the game, and almost every single enemy type outside of Byrgenwerth and Cainhurst appears in at least 2 different areas of the game.

You really get tired of fighting the same things after a while. No other souls game ever had this problem.
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>>124601230
Back up what you're saying without random insults. I'm not a fan of that guy and I don't know what he says about DkS2 but I've played through the games and there seems to be no connection between 1 and 2.

Dark Souls and Bloodborne have just as many connections just by merit of being From games and having Patches, Moonlight Greatsword, and Chester from Oolacile. What source do you have for your belief that DkS1 and 2 are in the same world/timeline/dimension?
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>>124601759
I'll help. I could use some help with Defiled Amygdala after, but if not I just like helping anon.
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>>124601880
bl30, ghj.

Think I have all of the chalices on my 80 toon
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>>124602000
I'll be right there with my own BL30, give me a minute.
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>>124601926
Bro I'm not even a lorefag but:

In NG+ you get the Dark Souls Lord Souls in conjunction with the Dark Souls 2 Lord Souls when you kill the bosses.
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So question..
If using mostly Amy arm, should I go 50 STR 25 SKL for a little bit more damage and beast claws potential or keep SKL at 13 and go 50 VIT? I cannot go arcane or it will put me on the 100's
This is important
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>>124601905
I dunno, but it's especially fun when you're a low level.
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>>124602061
Cheers.

>>124601967
feel free to join, ghj. Think I have the defiled chalice, but not 100% if I did the skip or not. Been a while.
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>>124601168
It staggers her charge attacks that even the burial blade can't intertupt.

It also staggers orphan of KoS. Does he also have "no poise"?
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>>124602187
what gems are those?
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did they ever explain why doctors and gascoigne wear bandages over their eyes
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So what happened to Caryll?
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>>124602187
Kick it up to 43 bruh, can't invade anyone below 30
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>>124602187
Dude, they literally give you Farnese's hair in this game. Why didn't you go with that?
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>>124602438
why is there a vial of iosefka's blood outside wetnurse?
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>>124601926
If you don't think that Dark Souls 2 is a sequel to Dark Souls 1 with the lord soul shit and the timeline presented by NPC's (namely Straid) and item/spell descriptions, you are beyond help
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>>124602201
Ringing bell outside boss room.
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>>124602438
It's a nod to willam. Just like the choir hat.
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>>124602496
She became Oedon
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>>124602530
Why is one of the most powerful healing items in the game right outside the last required boss fight? Good question anon, but maybe it'd be silly to think someone else couldn't have gotten a sample from Iosefka and left it there. She does give it out like candy, after all.
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>>124602438
When hunters become blood-addled, their pupils collapse, which makes for a very obvious visual indication that they're about to go all beasty. They bandage their eyes probably because they don't know what's wrong beyond the fact that they suddenly went blind and their eyes are fucked up, or to hide the evidence of their imminent beasthood.
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>>124602124
I do good ass damage with both at 50str/15skl, but I also only have 42 Vit as I like stamina.
I'd invest in Vit.

Hell, why not 120? Everybody's doing it!
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>>124602530
fake iosefka was a choir member, she had some sort of connection with mensis
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>>124602518
I didn't like how it looked from behind. Besides, I think she looked better with long hair.
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>>124602793
the blood is from the real iosefka though
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>>124602756
Invading at 120 subjects you to legitimately OP shit like builds with 99 arcane and 50 vit, or 50str/50skl on stake driver. Yes, it turns out stake driver is actually really strong when you softcap all of its scaling.
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>>124602553
he got me right in the i-frame
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>>124602961
Ringing again. We've got it this time, anon.
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>>124602961
Still ringing outside the boss fog by the way. Been here the whole time.
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>>124602857

God dude you suck at sliders jesus christ
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Wait for a fucking second.
Isn't this a Maria's brooch?
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>The Bergynwerth Spider hides all manner of rituals, and hides our lost master from us.
Does it mean Rom was stopping rituals, or merely covered them up? I was under the assumption Rom was stopping Mensis from completeing their ritual, but if that was the case they wouldnt be chanting in the Gaol at that time. As well, Micolash and friends had been reduced to mummys at that time, so how long had they been in the nightmare for? It couldnt have just happened recently.

Also the gates being unlocked when Rom dies makes me think he was working to protect the Mensis ritual.
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level 48 at the one reborn looking for some co op
password is cute
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>>124603163
It's green but that appears to be the only similarity. The jewel is too small.
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>>124603163
No the gem is too small.
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>>124603126
I wasn't trying to make her face. I just like that face. All I was copying was the skin, hair and eye colour.
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>>124602920
I know, I have a 99 arc and I fucking hate it.
My 98 is
42
25
50
15
6
10
for reference.
I have something like high 400's AR for the Claws, around 1,100 AR with them at max beasthood. Amy Arm doesn't do the greatest, but the fast wide-arcs are still good for PvP. The non-tricked club is near-useless if you ask me, I get most of my kills from R2's, charged or otherwise.
779AR on Whirligig if you like that, I hit Laurence for almost 1,200 for my first R1 when tricked with Beast Pellets and Bolt Paper applied, full meter does over 4k for a charged R2.
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>>124603089
Ringing as well
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>>124603228
Rom is probably just hiding the Mensis ritual, and not working against it in any way. The second half of that note is the victim of bad translation, it's actually referring to the Amygdalas everywhere. You know, the ones that become fully visible after you kill Rom.
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Anyone feel like helping me kill bloodletting beast in lower pthmeru before my bus comes?
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>>124603301
Those claws shouldn't be hitting over 1,000 AR if they start with 400, 300 beasthood is the final breakpoint and only gives a +70% multiplier to AR. If you really are getting that high with them, then they might've buffed beasthood with the patch and nobody noticed yet.
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>>124602920
Just another thing that confirms that people staying on lower levels are afraid of facing actually strong builds instead of opponents made of glass.
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>>124603228
He HIDES the rituals, anon. He's the reason you can't see the red moon, or the Amygdalas. He's keeping the ritual from sight so that Mensis can continue to work in secrecy.

Worth pointing out that spider in japanese can also mean cloud, and the symbolism of Rom obscuring secrets the same way a cloud obscures the moon is pretty relevant. It also implies that the lost master is the Moon Presence, which would make sense since "Mad men toil surreptitiously in rituals to beckon the moon."

Worth noting that in medicine, ROM refers to the rupturing of the amniotic membrane in pregnancy prior to the beginning of labour (aka their water breaking). Considering you fight Rom on a thin surface of water beneath a lake, and immediately see the freshly C-sectioned Queen Yharnam and hear the cries of Mergo immediately after killing him, that's also a pretty relevant bit of symbolism.
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>>124602920

But with 99 ARC you can only have about 35 VIT. Sure, it makes you pretty strong, but you'll die if you're so much as sneezed on.
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>>124603231
Jesus Liz
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>recruited all the people to the cathedral
>did elieen's questline
>done unseen village and killed paarl

anything else to do before killing amelia?
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>>124603689
You can go to BL135-140 and have 50 VIT, 99 ARC and even few points in phys stats to use more weapons. Being at 140 also softcaps your natural defense.

Honestly, thanks to that softcap i think 140 is the most balanced FC pvp level simply because going higher won't give you any real advantage.
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>>124603513
Nah, that was a while ago. Gems and Beasthood stack individually. You get your ~480ARx27.2=____x27.2=____x27.2+_____x70=end result AR.
It's how I hit 9k with my Kirk and 32.6% blunts, especially instead of a visceral on broken head armor for Amy or Bribri.
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>>124603562
Fear has nothing at all to do with it, matey. The higher you go, the less build diversity you encounter.

At BL150, there are exactly three builds: 50str/50skl, 50skl/50blt, and 99 arc. 50str/50blt might pick up steam once the DLC runs its course, but that's later. At BL100, there are seven builds pre-DLC: 50str, 50skl, 50str/25skl, 25str/50skl, 25skl/50blt, 50arc, and 50str/25arc. Build meta in the 80-120 range is just more diverse than in the BL150 range, fights are more interesting, and the players are generally less shitty. I don't know why the latter is true, but it's awfully consistent.
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>>124603037
fucking yes. Finally!

Just tell me where you wanna go and il be there
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>>124603881
>fights are more interesting, and the players are generally less shitty. I don't know why the latter is true, but it's awfully consistent.
>muh difficulty
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>>124603816
you can't bring the whore or the asshole to the cathedral before killing amelia, I thought.
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>>124603887
Are you up for Defiled Amygdala? Same password.
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>>124603816
Go to Hemwick.
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>>124604050
you can, but only if you killed bsb
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>>124603881
>At BL150, there are exactly three builds: 50str/50skl, 50skl/50blt, and 99 arc
Also 99 VIT single stat builds.
Also 99 BLT snak mages with 500-550 AR evelyns.
Also high stamina single-stat builds like rakuyo or bom ones.
Also specialized MLGS builds with nourishing gems, STR/ARC builds with nourishing gems and amy's arm and boom hammer.

BL100 is only good for single stat builds. BL140 (fuck 150, 140 is the real meta) allows you to create vitgouges and hybrids plus caps your natural defense, while still giving you ability to invade 120 and be invaded by 100.
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>>124603816
Kill the witches, upgrade your weapon to +6, clear Pthumeru dungeons depths 1-3, and hintertombs dungeons depths 2-3. That should cover everything possible before Amelia.

Of course, if you actually do the depth 3 dungeons you'll shit all over the rest of the game with your turbo gems, especially if you do depth 3 roots.
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>>124604093
What chalice was that?
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>still see people saying that Bloodborne's online is shit

I will never understand this. You ring a bell, you go into a person's world and either slap their shit or help them slap shit. What is wrong with the way bloodborne does multiplayer? How is it in any way worse than its predecessors?
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>>124603865
The 480AR is already after the gems, isn't it? Without gems and at 50 strength + 25 skill, your claw AR should be 254.
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>>124604274
Sometimes it takes stupidly long to connect. I've tried waiting hours before getting connected.
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>>124603481
let me have another go at amygdala, if no one helps. i will
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>>124604274
BB's online is very good now, it was shit in a first month after release when nobody was connect to anyone.
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>>124604239
Cursed Pthumerian Defilement. You could just use the SRRC with the same password instead if you like.
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>Looking for gem farming spots on Reddit
>Some guy posted a thread about having trouble with Ludwig
>'It's probably because this character only has 22 Endurance.'
>Everyone starts ragging on him for ONLY having 22 End

Isn't that overkill?
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>>124604445
>reddit
Just stay there.
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>>124604374
If you can connect in 5 minutes, exit and re-enter the game.
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>>124604445
I have 16, a little more would be nice but its not like the other games in the series where you need to have a shitload so you can wear armor with decent poise. Stamina also consumes basically nothing and if you have the Hunter of Hunters mark your natural regen is pretty sick.

Reddit is just a bunch of fags, as always
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>>124604445

what is it with fucking memesters and endurance in this fucking game, it's a joke stat, 20 end is more than enough
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why all the weapons are wrapped in bandages?
Any logical purpose for that, other than to increase the edgyness?
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>>124604274
>70% hp penalty for summons
>can only invade if host has summons or is trying to invade with the area boss still alive
>numerous bugs with matchmaking (e.g., restmode bug, SRRCing with an oath rune on)
>oh yeah, fucking SRRC
>only recently have most people found out that summoning is proximity based, could've helped explaining MUCH earlier
That about covers it.
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>>124604274
There was hardly any build variety in vanilla BB. But now it's great.
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>>124604414
Seems they changed how chalice cooping works, trying to use the root chalice but it only gives me a list of chalices
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>>124604607

10/10 gif
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>>124604592
To soak up more blood.
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>>124603481
pass?
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>>124604445
End is the dump stat. Only level it if you've leveled everything else and you're a few more levels away from completing your build.
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>>124604414
Nvm, remembered the makeshift altar. I just had my d5 dungeon there so I didnt see it.

Searching now
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>>124604604
>summoning is proximity based
Not anymore, not as bad as it was at least.
Prior to DLC patch you could only invade people standing a few meters away from you, now you can invade people who are near the fog gate to one reborn while being at second lamp post.
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>>124604178
50 vitality and Clockwise Metamorphosis gives 1,724 hp. Going to 99 vitality gives only +461 more hp. If people are willing to spend 49 levels just for that in a game that doesn't let you stack defense the same way DaS1 did, they're retarded.

Evelyn gets 29 more base AR at 99 bloodtinge than it does at 50 bloodtinge, which is even more of a waste of stat points than the 99 vit one. Madaras Whistle is probably plenty strong at that point if it works anything like the arcane tools, but considering the user themselves can literally walk out of it I don't see it being even a blip on the radar. Unless the people you're fighting are retarded I guess, which would be in line with what I said earlier.

High stamina Rakuyo and nourishing phys/arc split weapons are a legitimate point, though.

However, I personally think making hybrids with no downsides is fucking retarded. There needs to be some offset to investing in two different damage stats, otherwise there's no reason to invest in a single stat when investing in two gets you the same shit and then some. Again, a higher level reduces build diversity.
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>>124604592

Absorbs beast blood for later use in rituals?
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>>124604178
>BL100 is only good for single stat builds
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>124604626
I just co-oped with anon with the SSRC an hour ago. It auto-matches when you pick the co-op option and have a password selected.
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>>124604881
Sure, let me see your two stat builds with like 30 vit or none of them being taken to actual softcaps.
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>>124604604
SRRC and oath runes don't actually fuck with each other, that was just people trying to find a scapegoat for SRRC being really slow. The network maintenance before the league patch made it a hell of a lot faster, though.
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>>124604292
>base AR at +10 with 50str/15skl = 239
>with gems applied = ~491.880079872
>max beasthood = 836.2561357824
I know I get over 1,000, I've seen it before. There is a small margin for error with scaling and rounding up, but it's not gonna make up for the missing 200AR.
Oh well, just fuck around with it, you'll see. I don't have a screenshot of it on me.
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>>124604592
To soak up blood, because otherwise it dries onto the metal of the blade and degrades it.
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>>124602496
The witch you fight to get to him presumably tied him to that chair and killed him.
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>>124605032
>>124604604
>SRRC

Okay, now, I was here at the start, but I have no idea what SRRC is...
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>>124605094
>caryll
>a hunter
>using blood, ever

Caryll was too pure for that.
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>someone last night wanted help with shadows of yharnam
>'ok no prob ringing as we speak'
>absolute shite at the game
>gets killed 1 minute in to the fight
>go check out who the fuck was it in players met thing on the ps4
>it's fucking nyanners

top fucking lel
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>>124605015
Not even the same guy.
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>>124605180
Sometimes I'm impressed these e-celebs even manage to make it that far in the game, but I suppose they just end up letting summons carry them through.
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>>124604834
I can't stop hearing the guy taking that picture yelling, "Stay. Stay!" to that poor dog.
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>>124601225
>It wouldn't surprise me if no reviewer even mentions this
it's because it's completely standard across the industry. every AAA i know internally has a giant asset library and doesn't think twice about using anything from it. the bulk of the cost of art is asset creation, especially in this day of high-poly modeling, so if you're expecting entirely new assets from any company with less employees and dosh than like rockstar games you're going to be disappointed
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>>124605180
Does the cunt post here or what?
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>>124605394
It's also an industry standard to not ever mention the flaws of a game unless your goal is to do nothing but bash it and condemn it to a 7/10
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>>124605394

fo4, every call of duty game, battlefield does it, gta5 had tons of shit from 4, just from the top of my head
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>>124605127
Short Ritual Root Chalice. It matches you with other players.
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>>124605483
we all know games journalism is shit, i'm just telling you that you don't live in a reality where you're going to see new assets every game, for very basic economic reasons
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>>124599543
I mean, depending on when they decided to combine the two DLC packs there may have been more concepts for Fishing Hamlet that they decided to abandon once they didn't have to make two separate areas
Like maybe we would have gone deeper into the caves or something but they decided that it was big enough when bundled with the research hall
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>>124605180
>the traitor to loli
>in my /bbg/

Patches are you tryin' to trick me
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>Byrgerwerth
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>>124605394
Normally it doesn't matter, I know it happens all the time.

But a lot of these sounds have been used in all 4 games now.

Any kind of bell ringing? Its from 3-1.

When you hear it over, and over, and over again it gets old, especially since Demon's Souls has a very... video gamey sound design, where as the others try to be a bit more realistic.
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Does anyone want to help with Paarl? It's NG+ and everything is stupid strong.

Lvl 117 ringing at the fog gate please help.
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How do you kill Simon early? Just looking at gameplay of level 70+ people still getting rekt by him. Is the wooden shield of any use since and any way to kill him fast?
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>>124599349
It was probably going to be hunter's nightmare->fishing hamlet, and the cathedrals->research hall->maria
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>>124605853
I still don't know why people are trying to kill him at all when he just gives you the bow later.
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>>124604274
When people (or at least when I do) say the online is shit we mean that the latency is mostly going to be ass, the hp penalty is fucking ass, you can only invade people actively looking for co-op or pvp, and the other things like that. The actual combat is pretty great but everything else ruins it.
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>>124605853
There's a webm around of
>L2
>L2 to parry his arrow shot
>arrow will hit you
>visceral, restoring hp
>repeat
Don't know what level the guy was at, but he said he was really low, probably around 30.
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>>124605456
Didn't she make a video off of some /a/ meme and then delete it a while later with some sjw rant? She probably still lurks around here. Every e-celeb that gets their start on 4chan eventually crawls back as an anon.
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okay level 50
doing ludwig
password is hell
ring by the gate
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>>124604824
>There needs to be some offset to investing in two different damage stats, otherwise there's no reason to invest in a single stat when investing in two gets you the same shit and then some.

Yeah, something like a simple skill build doesn't work at 120 because you have nothing useful to invest in after hitting 50/50 vit/skl without making a hybrid. The reason this doesn't fly with reddit is because they don't stack vit.
I think it boils down to reddit being more casual. They typically don't go for FRC gems and only invest in vit when approaching BL150. I think it was two weeks ago that they tried discussing an "official" meta and the overwhelming consesus was to do so because they weren't tanky enough at 100/120, which leads me to believe they're spending their points in end or extra scaling stats instead of vit which is suicide in an environment with FRC gems.
In no way am I attempting a circlejerk but /bbg/ regulars tend to finish CDs and thus realize the importance of vitgouging and the near pointlessness of investing in end. Not that I've tried it, but I'm sure reassuring the reddit community that FRC gems change the way builds should be made will be met with a slew of "we don't have time to grind for that" and "fights are over too quickly" comments.
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>>124605853
I did it a few hours ago and I'm a shitter. I used a few Madaras whistle, which took like 800 hp off of him. He's super easy to just melee to death, it just takes a while. Anything will stagger him, but he jumps around a lot: literally just hit him, dodge arrows (which is really fucking easy) and repeat until death/you die irl.
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>>124604274
soapstones

sometimes you don't want to have to communicate to someone and agree on a password.
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>>124605976
Because in order for him to hand it over you have to kill 3 bosses, and by the time you get all the equipment to do so, you're probably already half way through the game
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>>124604445
over 9 is overkill
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How many Blood Dregs do you have saved up, /bbg/? I just noticed I have 99 on me, and 76 in storage. I stopped offering to Annalise after the hundreds of Dregs I gave her were erased from the Register.
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>>124606097
So what you're saying is I should make a BL150 build with perfect gems and just wreck their shit. Probably combine max lake, great lake, arcane lake, and tomb prospector set for maximum tankiness.

Sounds kind of fun, actually. Time to rev up those chalices.
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>>124600072
Try going back to ludwig's chamber after reloading but before moving the stairs. I think you need to insert the eye pendant or jump to the cell key but something makes Simon show up there, I just found that out last playthrough.
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>>124604274
Bloodborne, I feel, favors a style of lookign for co-op that most people simply didn't want to try.

You're supposed to ring your bell at the start of a level, and find your friends, and adversaries, along the way. That's what I think was the intention. The team talked about being able to walk through Yharnam is meeting other players and not knowing if they would help or hinder them.

Instead we have people just standing in one place, waiting for a ringer to come along.
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>>124605853
I killed him around BL30. What I did was stand at the door (the one regularly leading to upper cathedral elevator), wait for him to come close and spin axe him, he'll get back up with a backwards dodge back into the hallway and shoot two-three arrows 90% of the time, at which you just repeat the process. At around 50% hp you can just poison knives him, 20 poison knives do a little more than half of his hp if you manage to hit them all. I can upload a video of the method cause I saved the clip when I beat him.
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>>124606234
But Ludwig is the only hard boss of those three. Living Failures isn't even a boss, and Maria is super easy to cheese since the only attacks you can't stagger her out of are parryable and telegraph for miles.
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>>124606054
Please senpai
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>>124606483
On my way
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Anyone want to give me a hand with Defiled Amygdala? Password is bbg123
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>>124606483
wish I could help anon but I'm at work
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>>124606396
yeah, the bell system feels like some originally much more antagonistic system got axed by some literally satan producer who was worried about accessability. you have to opt in twice to even be at a risk for getting invaded -- once at the title screen and then again in-game
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>people still call Rom a he
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>>124606679
>people still call Amygdala a she
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>>124606679
People don't know shit about anything. Should be pretty apparent from how many replies Loranon gets on average.
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>>124606569
Still trying to kill him from last night?
I'll help ya if you're still stuck by the time I get back home.
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>>124606569
going
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>>124606738
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>surgery altar
>you move it by putting an eye in its skull
>you literally need to put eyes on the inside to unlock it
This fucking game.
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>>124606648
Well originaly the idea was that co-op would be seamless. You could literally just be going through the level and another player would just fucking show up, no notice or anything. And at that point it was up to the players that encounter each other as to if they should work together or not. So imagine you're walking through the fishing Hamlet, and you see another hunter step out between some houses. Maybe there's some indication as to his oaths or something. Maybe executioners always see vilebloods with a red aura, and vice versa. Maybe Leauge members are always blue to each other. You can decide that you're going to kill that other player and rush them down. Imagine then again, coming upon two other hunters fighting one another, and you happen to be a Hunter of Hunters.


It's a great fucking concept for a game, and probably the literal perfect thing for the Souls games. I think they realized that with how the game and the systems worked that they just couldn't get that to fucking work, so instead we have the bells we do now.
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>>124606569
>tfw you have your own completed shared Lower Pthumeru, Defiled, Pthumeru Ilthyl, Lower Loran and Isv chalices saved and ready to co-op in
Shared chalices were the greatest idea they added desu senpai. On my way, bringing muh bowfu.
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>>124606997
Please, grant us eyes.
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still at ludwigs nightmare fog
password is hell
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>>124607204
Make sure you're set to worldwide and don't have the restmode bug active.
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>>124607063
I hope they eventually make that game, because that sounds cool as hell. They got kind of close to it with the pilgrims of dark covenant in DaS2, but there just weren't enough players invading down there to make it work. Probably because invading down there was too much work.
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>church bell giants

Coolest fucking enemy.
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>>124607091
Agreed
As a bowblade twink, I've made it my mission in life to pincushion that undead giant faggot for someone at least once a day
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>>124607305
is it a problem I am level 50
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>>124607305
>restmode bug active

Is this still a thing? You mean the bug where you can't connect after taking screenshot or going out to PS4 dashboard?
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>>124605180
why would she be lurking in bbg?
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>>124606569
sry. got 1 hit killed. ringing again
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>>124607427
nope, it was patched a long time ago. Not sure why it's suddenly being brought up today.
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>>124607368
No, it never is if you're using a password.

>>124607427
No, neither of those are a problem. An issue arises if you've set your ps4 to restmode in your current session of the game. Anon may have done that because I just got sent to the title screen without being sent to his world.
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I will reset everything
>>124607573
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>>124607342
Aye, my next task is to make a lower levelled character. Make a pure BLT and stay under BL100 for sure.

>>124606569
You still ringing? Sitting here outside Amy's gate, you're in the shared glyph right?
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>>124607573
You're not supposed to actually quit out when that error message pops up unless you're the host, anon.
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>>124607754
I know. I didn't get sent to his world even after waiting on the prompt for 30 seconds.
The problem is likely not on my end, either. I just invaded someone to make sure my shit wasn't fucky.
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>>124598152
>prospector olek joins the fray
>hitting enemies for a whopping 87 damage

I'll admit, their zeal is hilarious. Slowly walking up to a Pilgrim only to see a molotov careen in from off-screen to blow it away followed by a dash attack is refreshing. Or watching Queen Killer fight a combo satan dog rape squad.
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No idea why this isn't working I can invade as well
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all lowercase hell
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>>124607961
Sorry, man. It might be a NAT type issue. You're sure you're set to worldwide and using the right password?
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I'm fairly sure I've picked up every weapon since all the ones I don't currently own have had their bodies looted, but the trophy won't pop. Any ideas?
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>>124606569
>>124606569
did you guys win?

or should i ring again?
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>>124608228
Fed here, beckoner got squashed. I'm ringing again.
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>>124608118
gerhman?
shield?
torch?
hunters torch?
beast claws?
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>>124608228
Nope, got one shot at an eighth of its health. Ringing again if you're up for it.
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>>124608347
The only ones I don't have are Canon, Shield and Torch and when I go to the bodies they're on, there's nothing to pick up so I assume I've already got them
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>>124608310
ringing
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>>124608456
We're chillan waitan for you brah.
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LUDWIG
PASSWORD IS NIG
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>tfw parry chaining Maria with the piercing rifle and winning ar bl 46.

Krill Kosby is gonna wreck my anus.
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>>124608573
10/10 password
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>>124608573
but nig is lowercase
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>>124608423
Rosmarinus?
Beast claw?
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>>124608310
>>124608356
>1 hit in the doorway to the fight

fml, i swear i'm not usually this shit. ringing again if you guys need it.
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okay I swear I was just fooling
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>>124608118
Anons here have said that you need to buy the starting weapons from the messenger bath in order for them to count.
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>>124608840
Damn that actually worked, you're a hero anon
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Holy shit, the past three hosts that summoned me have all died to CRF merciless wankers, how is that possible?
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>>124608919
They got too greedy trying to impress your female character.
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the blood dripping above me gives me ptsd
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Is it possible to make a viable FRC beast embrace + claw build given the extreme reliance of the moveset on END?
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>>124608310
>>124608746
We did it! Thanks a bunch, anons.
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Bowie in his new song Blackstar looks reminiscent of a Bloodborne character, no?
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>>124608746
No worries, I saw it. Goddamn bullshit. We got him in the end tho, had to get Bloodletter out.
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Buscemi thanks so much
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>>124604050
You just need to kill 3 bosses, there are a total of 4 bosses before amelia
Gassy
Laurence v.5
Scrub starved beast
Mob boss of hemwick
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>>124609281
>>124609313
i know this is probably out of my place to ask.

but can we do the same thing for me?

pls?
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>got cainhurst summons
>got the snek whistle
bt build coming along smoothly

can't wait to get fucked by logarious
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Congrats anon. I was worried with how often he aggro'd toward you.

>>124608913
Not all heroes wear capes. Except in bloodborne because everything has a fucking cape.
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Why can't I stop playing this game?
I've done all but the last Chalice, beaten the game three times and keep coming back.

Now it's increased with the dlc.
What is it that makes you stay?
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>>124609425
Gimme a password fgt, I'll help out. I'll just be co-oping via SRRC today anyway.
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>>124609125
The moveset doesn't have an extreme reliance on endurance, even at 15 and no stamina rune you can get six attacks in. And that's with beast's embrace increasing the stamina costs.

If you wanted to make a level 98 FRC beastmode build, just have 50 strength, farm headless bloodletting beast for abyssal heavy gems, then farm Isz merciless trio for a 27.2% triangle. If you're worried about a patch nerfing the clearly broken abyssal scaling gems, farm normal BLB for an abyssal tempering with flat physical secondary since they're slightly better on claws than watcher gems.

You'll actually be getting more damage off the claws than the stat screen tells you, since they get a huge damage boost with the embrace rune on.
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>>124609368
Who?
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>>124609568
same pass.

bbg123
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>>124609548
Making new builds
Invading
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>>124609461

Sweet Macauley Culkin cosplay, dude.
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>>124608573
I think you mean PASSWORD IS ***
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>>124609372
It's possible to do it after only two bosses if you kill Cleric Beast, kill Gascan, buy the emblem and enter the Grand Cathedral area from the front. It'll cost all the blood you just got from cleric and gas, though.
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>>124609707
nope

you need to beat another boss, literally just did it
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>>124609630
Ringing my teeny tiny bell.

>>124609548
It's a very well made game. I can't stop playing it. I already want to make another bowbuild.
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>>124605853
I killed him easily at 60
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>>124609568
Sure, I'll be there. Same password, yeah?
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>>124609956
Yep.
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>>124609947
>early
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I will never play this game, not for another 4 years when they bargain bin PS4's since I won't buy a $400 Bloodborne machine

Fuck you Sony, fuck you so fucking hard you fucking assholes.
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>>124609826
Are you trying to say you have to kill another boss before Arianna decides to go with you, because you only need to kill cleric/BSB and gascoigne to reach them.
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>>124609630
Ringing.
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>>124610001
>Still seeing 70+ people getting rekt
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>>124610021
i'm saying, that if you get to her without killing bsb or amelia, she does not go with you
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>>124610007
>not having a PS3 and buying demon's souls when it first came out
>not buying dark souls 1/2 on the PS3 you already own
>not buying a PS4 for DaS2: darker and soulsier edition and the release of bloodborne: better than souls
>not planning to buy DaS3 and miyazaki's secret new sci-fi project on your PS4

You have only yourself to blame.
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>>124610007
Well let me know when you pick one up so we can do some jolly cooperation in 2019.
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>>124609691

Soft kek
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>>124609956
we waiting senpai.

thanks bth
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>>124610103
That's interesting. Nevermind, then.
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>>124610208
I won't spend half a thousand dollars on a machine that's good for 1 game.

Sorry, I just won't.

>>124610225
By then I probably won't even care about video games anymore, I'll have a career and a real job.
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>>124609703
Fuck the censoring. Seriously fuck it.

>make ARC character a creepy old dude specifically for PvP
>get tentacles
>name includes 'TheMolester'
>appears as 'The********'

Immersion ruined.
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>>124602891
>>124602687
Why would a simple clinic doctor like Iosefka have access to brewing her own strain of old blood, though?
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>>124610420

Bruh I got a career, 3 kids, a wife, and I still make time to have some fun online. You never outgrow the things you really enjoy.
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>>124610420
Yeah, that's super interesting and stuff. Now if you'll excuse us, I'm going to talk about how I love playing Bloodborne with other people who love playing Bloodborne.
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>>124610445
I always rush to BSB so I can make a chalice dungeon and find out if my name is censored. Some of the things it censors are just plain buttfucking retarded
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>>124610542
I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's probably in the item description someone, and that we don't really know how clinic doctors rate in Yharnam.
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So I was summoned to Ludwig last night and as he was entering his 2nd phase I hit him with a dash attack and he glitched out and died. Anyone else experience this yet.

Happens at 0:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz143JpVCHs
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>>124610007
I bought a PS4 for Bloodborne. I almost regretted it when it was vanilla, but now that the DLC is out, it's worth it for me. I've already put hundreds of hours into the game and I still want to play more.
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>>124609956
>>124610000
thanks guys. some smooth work right there.
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>>124610420
This is a general dedicated to one game, that you claim you have never played, and probably will never play
I'm not quite sure what you're doing here
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What's the point of the Church Picks tricked L2s? They do like no damage and it's only one move in the moveset.
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>>124610784
I love this bow so much.
>tfw you get a cheeky transformation attack on Amy's head
Best kek.
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>>124610549
Sounds comfy.
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>>124610792
Bored as fuck, haven't picked up any games or anime and not much interest in them anymore. Seriously considering lifting weights. I don't even want to kill myself this week, which typically accompanies the lack of interest.
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>>124610734
Not really, the game is basically a straight line with occasional side alleys that don't actually go anywhere. If getting there required a cutscene, it's probably optional.

Also where did post go
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>>124611181
>he didn't play the game
dude, there's so many dead ends
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>>124611050
If you have nothing better to do with your freetime than to consider killing yourself and can't afford a PS4, then maybe your time would be better spent trying to get a raise or a better job.

>>124611256
>side alleys that don't actually go anywhere
Beg pardon?
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>mfw egg apostle is in DaS3

will it out-berserk Bb?
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>>124611336
sry m8. missread
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>>124610784
No problem. It was fun.
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Is it true that if you don't move when Defiled Amygdala jumps, you will be safe and in a good spot to hit the head when it lands?
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>>124611517
Only sometimes. You have to know how she jumps and line it up to a small degree, otherwise Amy will land on you anyways.
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>>124611574

God dammit.
I need a guaranteed way to miss it. I got stomped with it at 10% health 11 times last night.
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>>124611747
Look up when she jumps, and roll just before she lands. It's really easy once you get the timing down, the window for damage can't even be three frames.
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I remember seeing an image that showed how all the areas connected. Was it somewhere in the OP and I just can't find it?
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>>124611860

I'll give it a try, thanks
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>2 hours of farm
>no second 25.3% radial
Jesus Christ. It was really miracle
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>parasite L2ing the ihyll descendant behind the pillars

oh my
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>>124601580
Is it worth watching Brotherhood of the Wolf because of Bloodborne? I brushed up on my Lovecraft recently after playing Bloodborne too.
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God damn why do I find the bloated head people from the DLC so cute?

If you think about what they would be like under the bags it's super fucked up. But damn I still find them adorable
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Anyone mind helping me with Rom? Pass is bbg, ringing near fog, BL32 if it matters
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So can you no longer summon Gascoigne and Alfred by ringing your bell on those message spots? They basically replaced that with the old hunter bell stuff, correct?
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>taking out entire gank squads with an alium pose

It's so easy to shut down but it keeps happening


GRANT US EYES
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>>124612392
It's pretty much the exact same thing, just made them separate from player summons
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>>124612187
Wouldn't an Ebrietas 24._% arcane gem with flat arcane second triangle gem be better than that one?

Honestly, I think you'd have better luck farming off shape gems from ebrietas since she has a guaranteed 24.etc% primary effect.
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>>124612187
Are you farming those fucking bone ash hunters in Isz? I swear I'm up to my ass in Tempering and Bolt, but only a few Arcane.
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>summon two guys for Amelia
>Both have Whirligig
>They just fucking hold L2 and she gets stunlocked to death

Did no one play test this
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>>124612413
>It's so easy to shut down
No it fucking isn't. If you misjudge and make a poorly timed swing even once, you won't have a chance to escape it's reach. It's actually completely fucking retarded because of that and the enormous range. The window to stop the attack is minuscule and after that it's a fucking nuke with endless reach.
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>>124612301
>I'm a robin!
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>>124612547
>Summon someone for boss
>Both of us had Gatling Guns
>Stun locked the boss in the corner with a hail of bullets flying at it

Amazing sight to be seen. Wish I could get 3 people to do it and record it.
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>>124612234
I tried watching it once but got a bit fed up with it, they only really wear the hunter outfits at the very start of the film anyway.
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>>124612610
Anon, please. Please.

All you have to do is parry the alium. Is he posing? Shoot your gun. It's that easy.
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Anybody know what, if any, weaknesses Ludwig has?
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>>124612547
>boss is challenge for one guy, fun for two and total massacre for three
This is not exactly new to souls in general.
Even with bad weapons like barely upgraded gemless canes and 3 people around, scrub stompers like Papa G just melt.
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>>124612786
>All you have to do is parry the alium
And what if I'm two-handing my weapon? Or what if I just finished a jump or transform attack? I won't have time, and then his infinite range hyper armor nuke goes off.

Just be honest with yourself and others. It's not easy to stop. It's not fair. That's okay, Bloodborne PvP isn't even really meant to be fair. But don't kid yourself.
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>>124612610
This post is micolash-undodgable-instakill-spell levels of retarded.

The range isn't infinite, you can be out of range with one dodge. And that's if you don't just shoot it instead of trying to backstep out of it and being murdered with instability frames.
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>>124612797
i can only assume he's weak to fire paper and serrated weapons because he's a beast

>>124612547
pretty much any 3 weapons will stunlock amelia
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>>124612547
>summon 2 guys for amelia
>Both have saw cleavers
>They just fucking mash R1 ands she gets stunlocked to death
Did no one playtest this
>>
Holy fuck decorated hunter garb
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>>124612916
>The range isn't infinite
It's more than two backwards dashes. That's as bad as some boss nukes.
> that's if you don't just shoot it
The window for that is tiny and once it's over, there's hyper armor for the rest of the animation. Not to mention how many weapons involve a two-handed mode with no guns or parry choices.
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>>124612797
He's a beast. Fire and serrated weapons work fine.
Learn to doge his charge and get under him when he does the 4 swipes combo (you can get in after first or 2nd swipe without getting hit by the rest), then just empty your stamina.
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>>124612234
Solomon Kane, Hellboy, and Van Helsing would probably be closer matches.
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>>124612890
If you have a two handed weapon, you can stun an ayyy out of his pose. A transform attack will also stun them out of it. The real hyperarmor only comes into play well into the animation.

If you would have to dash forward to attack a posing ayy, dash away instead. People die to it because they get greedy. The time it takes you to dash forward and begin an attack will let him rev up the hyperarmor and expand your asshole with eyes.
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This took 4 to 5 Hours to get but it was worth it. Now Time to get another one or farm the Watchers in pwmf for a 27.2% radial gem.
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>>124612468
27% is better
>farming Ebrietas for off shape
Absolute madman. And I don't think off shape gem from her will be 24%
>>124612524
Watchers. Out of shape
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>>124613062
Isn't it funny how you're the only person saying it's hard to dodge out of? Maybe you're just bad. I've fought against it a few times and got away untouched, but I can imagine someone who spams R1 might have more trouble.
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>>124613138
>, you can stun an ayyy out of his pose
Not if he activates it during an opening on a missed attack. The window to halt the attack is way too brief.
>If you would have to dash forward to attack a posing ayy, dash away instead
Without even a hint of exaggeration, every time I dash away, I die anyways because the attack has LUDICROUS reach. Happened 5 times yesterday with 3 different Parasite builds.

>>124613197
>Isn't it funny how you're the only person saying it's hard to dodge out of?
But I'm not. That's been a common comment since the DLC released.
> Maybe you're just bad.
That title is reserved for people who defend imbalanced game design.
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>>124613150
Did you actually farm a lever watcher for off-shape gems? And stopped after the first radial and triangle?

Either get a lost bloodletter for the waning bloodtinge gem you probably have floating around, or farm Ihyll bloodlickers for their much better off shape rate.
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>>124612326
pls senpaitachi
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Anybody up for a challenge?

NG+++ Ludwig. Should be sufficiently hard even with co-operators.
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>>124613358
>>124613062
>>124612890
>ayy pose
>range worth shit

It has just enough range to surprise someone from behind a door. You can backstep out of it unless your face is lodged in the ayy's broccoli.
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>>124613448
Yeah I will help
stuck on ludwig new games plus 5
whats that password senpai
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>>124613358
>That title is reserved for people who defend imbalanced game design
Nope, stop that right now. Whether or not it is in fact imbalanced is the question being discussed, you absolute plebian. Present evidence first to validate your conclusion before you start using your conclusion for other stuff, otherwise you're just all talk.
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rifle spear worth using on a 50bt build for pve?

i just found out that using it at base isn't much worse than 25skill (only 15% damage increase)
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>>124604178
I'm glad more people in /bbg/ trying 140BL.
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genuinely scared kos parasite will get the nerf
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>>124613358
They won't listen, mate. Let them have their crutch.
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>>124613385
Yeah, farmed a Shotgun Watcher. And nope, I stopped after the first acceptable radial gem stone. I also have another 31% one that constantly depletes my health by 9 points and two shitty waning ones. Weapon Durability down isn't that bad, I'll only use it for pvp. However I may continue to try and get another 31% one but for now this is good enough.
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>>124613521
Then explain why I consistently die anyways even when I do nothing but back out of range?

>>124613547
>Whether or not it is in fact imbalanced is the question being discussed
It's obviously imbalanced. It's got Beast Cutter tier hitboxes with hyper armor almost the entire time and can deal over 1k damage in a PvP setting.
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>>124613537
BL 130, password "taniwha".
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>>124612890
>it's not easy to stop
>it's not fair
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>>124613552
Rifle spear with three tempering gems is a stronger blunderbuss, yes. Only problem is you can't BMA it, which really hurts its damage potential.
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>>124613623
they'll nerf the ayyspolsion

and the pizza's ability to stunlock npcs with the constant cutting attack, making it useless
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>>124613714
ringing
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>>124612890
switch to your gun when he switches to 2 tentacles.
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>>124613702
If I had never fought a kos parasite before, I'd probably believe you. But the fact of the matter is that I've yet to get hit by the ayybomb, because the range is nowhere as long as you're pretending it is and one dodge backwards is more than enough to get out of the way. Assuming you don't just shoot the filthy slug fucker instead.

So you can stop trying to convince me that the things I do are impossible, retard.
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>>124613702
Then your face must be inside his broccoli when you start dodging. You should try to parry it from that range. Also, the damage is complete shit unless you grind out the best gems for it.

I don't know what to tell you if you can't deal with it. Half the time I pose, the MLGS or Rakuyo is there to knock me right out of it. The other half I only manage to nick one cooperator because they back the fuck off. I only get kills in cramped areas.
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>>124613623
>gank squads bitching about anit gank weapon
>-30%hp
>luck based parry
>two peopel gunspaming for stagger and parry while other mlg_pro fight you in close combat
And I still never invade three AYYY LMAO or Bloodletter fags. Yeah, invaders are so strong!
>>
>>124613905
>>124613972
>one dodge backwards is more than enough to get out of the way
So long as you continue to insist on this lunacy, we're going to get nowhere. The range is well over two backwards dashes. I've had this demonstrated to me more than once.
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Is the Kos Parasite worth using a blood rock on?

Anyone think it's good?
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>>124600615
I wish there were more anons like you.
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>>124614093
The uncanny one is. Unless you're going elemental, I guess.
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>>124613860
Well that was embarrassing. Sorry about scrubbishness.
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>>124614034
And I've dodged out of it with just one more than once. So of fucking course I'm going to insist on what I've seen, since it's an observable fact.

Here's an actual, honest-to-god pro tip for you, used by real life pro players in every competitive game ever: if you think something is overpowered and has no counters, use it. You're either right and it'll be nerfed all the faster for you using it, or you're wrong and someone better than you will demonstrate the correct counter.
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>>124613623
Even without Chalice gems I was almost one-shotting people (doing about 800 ~ 900 damage). Now I can reliably output 1k+ damage and I've still got a long way to go before I've got the best gems.
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>>124614206
>if you think something is overpowered and has no counters
I didn't say that. What I said is that filthy worm wizards need to accept that they're using something that's not even remotely balanced. That's all. Stop pretending like it's easy to shut down. It's not.
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>>124604178
I honestly don't see the point in leveling any stat past 50.
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don't worry man
just keep your health up and we can get it
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>>124614307
But it is. Again, dodge backwards or shoot it. There are options. No weapon in the game has a range so short it requires you to be directly on top of a player to hit them, so there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to escape its range with a single dodge.

You lack skill. What more needs to be said?
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Are the DLC weapons mostly world drops? or are they more like Bloodborne style

>find badge
>buy them

Because I don't really wanna dump 100,000's of Blood Echoes just to try errytang.
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>>124614307
>that's not even remotely balanced

>one swing of the untricked moonlight blade can knock them out of it
>a fucking rakuyo can knock them out of it
>it can be parried
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>>124612413
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>>124614172
Yeaaah. I suck today. Not even watching my health. I'm gonna call it a bad job and get some sleep, maybe that'll cure me of the shitteriness. Sorry for wasting your time.
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>>124614372
Hunter tools don't softcap at 50, they have their own unique softcaps. Some don't slow down until 70, some don't slow down at all and continue to get good scaling up to 99.

>>124614449
All of them are found in the world with the exception of the Piercing Rifle, which is bought using the one new badge in the DLC: the Oto Badge.
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>>124614525

np man
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>>124612464
I think its kind of stupid you can summon old hunters first and then ring your beckoning bell, but you can't ring your beckoning bell and then your old hunter bell.
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>>124614418
>dodge backwards
and die
>shoot it
Only if you're lucky enough to be at the ready when the animation starts. Properly applied, the attack can be activated during an opening that makes sure to keep the user safe from staggers and parries.

> There are options
Not really. If they use it right, I won't have a choice. The parry/stagger window will be over by the time I have moment to respond and I'll have no choice but to hope I don't die from 5 meters away again.

>so there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to escape its range with a single dodge
The reason is the ungodly range you refuse to acknowledge.
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>>124614615
I think it's stupid that Alfred and Cascoigne take up summon slots now, when before you could have two summons, the host, and Alfred and just fuck BSB's day up.

>>124614668
Stop acting like you know what you're talking about. I've explained to you how to do the thing you think you can't do. Either go and do it, or shut the fuck up about it already.
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>>124614093
The parasite is insanely good but has slow regular attacks (dash attacks are quick as fuck, everything staggers and the L2 is a WoG with hyper armor).

If you want to get the most optimal version of the weapon for gems then go for Uncanny
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>>124614449
>Because I don't really wanna dump 100,000's
All but one rifle are world/NPC/Boss drops.
If you want all versions for your autism's sake prepare to dish out roughly 800K blood echoes for lost and uncanny versions.
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>>124614668
In that case it's your fault for having handed them the opportunity to them. Accept the fact that you get punished for your shitty play.
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>>124614802
>you can buy the different versions

Since when was this a thing?
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>>124614493
People talk about beastomodo being shit and ayylium being god-mode, but beastomodo has better damage, massive stagger-chains, a fucking homing leap, and is nearly impossible to counter unless you're a scrub spamming L2-roar every chance you get.

Meanwhile ayylium has great hitboxes, but it's slow and absolutely everything can be parried.

I've had WAY better luck with beastomodo in PvP. Now if only I could get rid of the goddamn high-pitched beast buff screech going on 24/7...
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>>124614761
>Stop acting like you know what you're talking about.
But I do. I've fought loads of parasites.
>I've explained to you how to do the thing you think you can't do.
No, you've ignored my arguments and repeated the same nonsense like a broken record player. The range is too great to make escape safe or reliable and the stagger/parry window is small enough that you can miss it because you pressed R1 at the wrong time. Press R1 at the wrong time even once and they can hit the big red button and kill everything in the room.
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>>124614869
Messenger baths in chalice dungeons sell lost and uncanny versions of whatever DLC weapons you've found.
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>>124614869
When DLC happened.
Find some bath messengers in chalices and they'll have lost and uncanny version of any DLC weapon you already acquired.
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>>124614770

Why did they have to make it look like a Cauliflower....
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>>124614846
>In that case it's your fault for having handed them the opportunity to them
It's not reasonable to get killed in one hit because you gave them a single opening. IF the raneg was halved, it would be reasonable. But as it stands, you can't even reliably just back off and wait it out.
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>>124615013
Something something becoming a lumentree thing. It's definitely not what I thought kin mode would be. I was hoping for a more amygdala/ebreitas like head.
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>>124615013
You're a flower bed mang.
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>>124614901
The homing leap has terrible tracking, telegraphs for nearly a second, and doesn't curve its flight path, so I'd love to know how you're landing it against anyone. Aside from that and the useless roar it's really fucking good though.

Little known fact: ayymode has hyperarmor on a whole lot of attacks, not just the L2, and most of its attacks have weird multi-hitbox nonsense that makes it difficult to iframe through. It's clunky to use, but the two handed R1 combo is great to punish R1 spam with.

>>124614910
Oh, I get it. You're that loranon faggot again. This explains why you literally can't understand anything that contradicts what you've already convinced yourself of.

Fuck off and actually play the game you inbred.
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>>124615217
>This explains why you literally can't understand anything that contradicts what you've already convinced yourself of
If you were sharing reasonable or true information, I could take it under consideration. But you insist that the explosion range is less than two backwards dashes, and as such, are full of shit. Understanding isn't the issue, I'm rejecting your dumb shit argument.
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>>124615050
Considering you take extra damage when you're hit while quickstepping and during attacks, yes I do believe they intended mistimed strikes to be SEVERLY punishing. Learn to fight without having your face rammed into the cauliflower and you should be fine with dodging away.
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>>124612797
Hit him in the side to stun him. Don't stand directly behind him or he'll kick you with his horse legs.
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>>124615217
The leap may have bad tracking due to lag, but it's a great gap-closer. Don't use it as an attack: use it as a unstoppable forward dodge that can stagger people and even 1-shot them if they're stupid.
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The Madaras twin in the forest isn't appearing. Wat do?
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>>124614901
I'm yet to play against someone who's actually utilized the beast moveset

>ARC visceral damage
Honestly don't even think a tier 3 clawmark rune could fix this.
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>>124615361
You can't reject jack shit because your supposed information is based purely on theorycraft. I say it's possible to escape with one dodge because that's what I always do, whereas you go on with hyperbole about killing everything in the room with one button and people *pressing L2 in response to you using an R1 attack, which somehow gives their starbomb enough time to execute before your R1 finishes so you can't dodge*. What are you, fighting time travelers or something? Are they seeing you use an R1, then traveling back one whole second into the past so they can use an L2? Bullshit, you're spamming R1 and getting punished for it like the shitter you are.

You'd repeat yourself like a broken record all fucking day if I gave you the option, because you don't know how to actually think for yourself. But fuck you, because that's not how logic works. If you want to say the L2's radius is too large to escape with one dodge, that the hyperarmor is too much to break with one or two attacks, or that the casting time is so fast a single errant R1 is all it takes to die horribly, then it's time to post a webm of you doing exactly that to people. Because I'm looking at all these kinmode webms right now and seeing the complete opposite of everything you've been saying to this point. Do your eyes not work or something? Do you need new eyes? Because I might know a guy, no joke.

You can say all the words you want, but right now all the evidence is stacked against you. Fuck off and take your middle school debate club rhetoric with you.
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So I have an arcane character, pic related. Is it worth it to level it to 120 just so I can get 70 in arcane? I mostly coop and do general fuckery with it, does the 20 points make a big impact on tool damage?
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>>124615509
Interesting idea, I'll give it a try. Still seems like I'd be leaving myself open to someone who was familiar with the range, though.

>>124615813
Nourishing gems, mate. They boost all damage, including physical and visceral.
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>>124615786
You crushed three vermin and rolled off the cliff to see if that triggered him?
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I don't feel accomplished after finally beating BLB. Just annoyed and frustrated. What a fucking shitshow of terrible design decisions.
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>>124613358
too shy shy, hush hush, eye to eye
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>>124615786
Talk to Valtr and exhaust his dialogue, smash a vermin and reload the area, talk to Valtr again until he gives you the pose and roster, talk to him some more, reload the area. Younger Madaras should appear.
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>>124616129
>terrible design decisions.
kek
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>farming rit mats for ihyll root for 8y2wes5u for flat arc radials for parayysite

I'm doing this for you bby
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>>124615997
You can quick-dodge to skip the wind-down animation.

The only thing that actually leaves you open is the roar, and that still has its uses: like staggering bosses and stopping ayylium-posing.
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>>124615881
>. I say it's possible to escape with one dodge because that's what I always do
I find that extremely hard to believe.
> whereas you go on with hyperbole about killing everything in the room with one button
Because the range is that big.
>. What are you, fighting time travelers or something?
No, I'm fighting people who know the parry/stagger window on the attack is brief enough that good timing can protect them.
>you're spamming R1
No I'm not. That's not even an effective playstyle with weapons like Reiterpallasch.
> If you want to say the L2's radius is too large to escape with one dodge, that the hyperarmor is too much to break with one or two attacks, or that the casting time is so fast a single errant R1 is all it takes to die horribly, then it's time to post a webm of you doing exactly that to people.
Fuck that. I don't need to prove myself to you. It's not like it would do anything but encourage more of you to make parasite builds.
>right now all the evidence is stacked against you.
You don't have evidence. You're insisting your own anecdotes outweigh mine.
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>>124615997
I feel like nourishing gems would make the parasite damage kind of underwhelming though.
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>>124616227
Yeah the camera in that fight is perfect. The game is best played while not looking at it.
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>>124616242
>8y2wes5u
Isn't %arc better than flat for kin? I thought flat was only good for the L2 damage.
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>>124616371
You, didn't lock on to it, did you?
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>>124616376
Flats probably better if you're a twink as well.
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>>124616376
I've got a parasite for each
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>>124616353
>I die anyways because the attack has LUDICROUS reach. Happened 5 times yesterday with 3 different Parasite builds.
>Fuck that. I don't need to prove myself to you.
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOW WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
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>>124616287
That would be a legitimate use for the roar, wouldn't it? It even boosts beasthood at the same time, fancy that.

I use it in pve against groups of enemies to quickly build beasthood, though. Hitting a cluster of snail ladies can give you 500 beasthood in 3-4 roars.

>>124616353
Fuck OFF loranon, holy shit. You're just repeating yourself and being retarded everywhere. Go make a webm and post some actual proof, you overblown faggot.
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>>124616435
No. I'm not stupid. You still can't fucking see shit because he bends over his legs, which are the only place where you can hit him, so all you see is his fucking back.
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>>124616556
the angle of his head to his neck annoys me here
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>>124616353
Eat a fucking dick you goddamn shitposter. Either back your shit up with video evidence or piss off.
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What is Kosm?
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>>124616771
Kos
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>>124599236
Does executioner's set count as church gear?

Cause he's normal otherwise.
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>>124616771
Nothing, because there is no such thing as 'Kosm'
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>>124616684
You think a Great One cares for anatomy?
>>124616771
Micolash spouting nonsense.
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I can't decide where to go from here. I can either just put one more point in vit and stop OR I can go up to BL116 by pumping skl up to 44 OR I could just throw a few points into skl and a few points into endurance and stop at 105 or 110.

The build was mostly for the bowblade, but I already feel like it does sufficient melee damage at 25 skl and without a end rune, I suffer and can't even roll after doing a single charged shot.
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>>124616353
>Reiterpallasch
>not meant for r1 spam
Calling it right now, you are shittier than a backed up toilet.
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>>124616558
>>124616730
>back your shit up with video
>go make a webm and post some actual proof
You both realize that this applies equally to the guy claiming the L2 is extremely manageable?
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>>124616829
Yep, anything with a holy shawl is church gear. Even Gascoigne's set.
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>>124616863
>he button mashes with Reiter
Holy fuck.
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>>124616865
There's already at least one webm in this thread where the L2 misses people because of its short range, maybe even two. Where's the webm where it obliterates everything on the screen because of infinite range?
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>>124616865
Except we all know the L2 is manageable because we can fucking manage it. You're the one saying you cannot. This is like Lucifer stating that you could not midroll through WoG spam in DaS1, it is factually incorrect.

And who cares, because you never coop or pvp with anyone.
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>read the paleblood hunt
>the author randomly call Caryll a woman

God damnit you sick bastards, why does everything need to have a pussy for you guys?

>implying a woman would rise to high ranks and fame in this old age style academia byrgenwerth

bunch of autists
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>>124612217
tip top kek dude i tried it cus i been stuck on him since last night and... my sides dude they hurt ty for this
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>>124616242

I never noticed that Kos had a face
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>>124617065
>loranon is lucy without the trip
You know, that would actually make sense. They both have artificially inflated egos and talk like they've never played the game before.
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>>124617094
Rom was a woman, you fucking autist. Quit being a fedora.
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>>124617174
We don't know if Rom was high ranking or just a random student. Kos might've just granted eyes to a random nobody for shits and giggles for all the lore we have on her.

It's also possible Rom was a guy and got a sex change. It is kind of odd that all the Great Ones seem to be female.
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>mfw I've been listening to Micolash's voice lines every day

Why is he so hypnotic?
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Can you parry Kos' second form?
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>>124617094
I'm playing the French version, in the texts regarding Caryll the use of the used grammar reveals that Caryll is, in fact, __male
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>yfw you find out that you can press and hold the gurgling saws L2
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>>124604824
Your are upset some weapon builds really benefit heavily investing in multiple stats and people want to build accordingly?

Fuck fun right?
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The rally on the whirly saw L2 is godlike

You can literally just turn into a weedwhacker and mangle corpses until your health is full again
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>>124617345
We have no idea if MP is male or female.
Oedon is a horn-dog.
Amy's aren't really even considerable.
Wet Nurse might not even be a Great One.
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>>124617575
Wet Nurse is indeed a great one, going off the trophy info.
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Whats the stategy for gemming kos parasite? Just stack tons of arc and Arc% damage gems, or would arc scaling be better? Is arc scaling even worth it outside the most top tier scaling gems?

Or would going pure flat damage actually work out best?
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>>124617456

Well whenever I need echoes I just go get summoned and grind Maria into dust. Even better with a host, summon, or both who can time our lawnmowers to be near constant
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>>124617373
You never fight Kos.
Unless you've discovered some secret boss.
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>>124616353
Here's me cancelling a kosplosion and then winning the fight with one.

I remember more than once during my 1v1 invasions that if I just used L2 in the middle of the fight people who weren't clueless backed up and stayed out of range. Once people realize it can be parried it's going to be really difficult to get it off in a 1v1 situation, or people will just back up anyway because if you miss and you're in range you're dead.

>That's not even an effective playstyle with weapons like Reiterpallasch.
Transformed R1s are really good for spamming
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>>124617467
Holy moonlight blade wants ridiculous stat investment, yes. Aside from that most of them do plenty well with a 50/25 split, and then there are the weird cases like Logarius' Wheel and Chikage where both modes scale with two entirely different stats. For the most part, if we're just talking about minmaxing and stat efficiency then there's no reason to go beyond BL100, or even BL120 if you want to stretch it.

But nobody seriously talks about minmaxing because that's boring. I like playing in the 80-120 range because I find the variety refreshing and fun. I understand there are people who prefer higher levels for their own reasons.
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ITT: Parasite bandwagoners

I was milkweed from day one of the dlc and suffered through the brocolli head humiliation you fucking posers. Now you want in for the inevitably nerfed cosmic WotG
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ALL RIGHT
looking for some co op on kos or kosm
right off the bridge
password is awhoo
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>>124617575
>Wet Nurse might not even be a great one


Except the wet nurse is explicitly a great one
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>>124617725
Parasite's multihit attacks are just fucking delicious. Too bad it doesn't work with beast blood pellets since it's all arcane.
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>>124617869
ringing in a second
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>>124617697

I mean his orphan.

I already killed Kos himself, hence his kid is an orphan.
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>>124617943
Kos is a she.
And she washed up on the shore like that.
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I love kos parasites aoe explosion. Really is nice when you are 3v1 and they think they can just zerg you
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>>124617943
>I already killed Kos himself
when?
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>>124615974
These numbers are estimates off the top of my head, but I'm sure I'm +/- only a few points of damage for each. This is also ONLY for PvE, I don't remember the PvP numbers at all, but I guess that doesn't matter for you, just saying so if you asked after.

I have 99 Arcane, each cast of ExGloves does about 1,067, Blacksky Eye does 458, Augur 560, Accursed Brew 804, ACB is really hit or miss, but if all hit, it's either 2,700 or 3,200.

I have no idea what numbers 50 throws up, but there's your reference to decide.
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>the .flac version of ludwigs theme.
wow. jesus fucking christ.
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>>124618126

>yfw somebody uploads a .flac file that is just a shitty bitrate .mp3 converted to .flac file type
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>>124615974
Any ideas on this, anyone?
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>>124617869
forgot to change covenant, ringing again
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Anyone up for fucking Logarius' skull? I'm up here to become a wheelbro but his stupid martyrdom shit is keeping me from killing the queen. Password is wheel
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>>124618126
link
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Best way to start an Arcane user? Shooting for BL 70 or so for fun invades.
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>>124618334
didn't get to listen to the 320 version yet. comparing to what i hear on youtube and even in game is miles apart.
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>>124618105
Thanks!
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>Even now, after having killed all manner of beasts I still am anxious going into the second part of the woods

God dammit, what is it about dark wooded places filled with balls of giant fucking snakes that puts me so on edge?
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>>124618463
Farm depth 1 root chalices for good fire radials, and use the fire waning gem below cathedral ward for your +6 saw of beast fucking.
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Why does anyone inheriting the Hunter's Dream end up in a wheel chair? Does Moon Presence give you spine damage when it hugs you?
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>>124618603
Might be because he chops your leg off for some incomprehensible alien reason. Take a look at the cutscene again, your character has a pegleg.
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>>124618603
if you're gonna be stuck in the same place for eternity, why not be comfy?
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GRANT US EYES

GRANT US EYES
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I just had Ludwig die instantly after the second phase cutscene.
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>>124618438
still waiting my man
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>>124618713

I always thought it was related to the "beast blood climbs up the leg" superstition that is in the old hunter trousers description
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>>124618454
reddit post got deleted. can't find the links now. maybe some other anon has it?
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how high should i go for random invasions? already have a 43 and a 115 so im looking for something inbetween

will i get much action at 75-80 in late main game areas and dlc?
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>>124618603
You get a pegleg like Gehrman. Why? Goodness knows. May have something to do with that bit about hunters believing that beasthood comes up through their right leg.
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>>124618791
me too. internet has been shit today. everyone in my country got the day off. so i guess everyone is on youtube or some shit.
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>>124618868
my 80 and 76 builds are my main invaders, you'll get plenty
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Does no one do vicar amalia or something? I was hoping to get summoned for some bonus souls before I kill her but I've been standing here for like 10 minutes now, and nothin. I'm lvl 29, is that too low/high for most people doing her?
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>>124618603
Shit's crazy man.
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>>124618972
I got a summons for her at 25 or so.

some people say that 20 is the right level, others say 30 or 40. Amelia is hard to get summoned for at times, because it takes a while to open the gates and some people don't even know that you need to do that.
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>those cleric beast violins in laurence's theme
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>>124618454
>>124503152
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>>124619096
>>124618972
At level 32, you can be summoned by people who are level 10. The only origin that doesn't start with level 10 is waste of skin, and people only do that for challenges anyways.
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>>124618545
np bby

>>124618972
It takes forever to invade or get summoned there. I've waited 30 minutes for both before and nothing happened. This was pre-dlc announcement last time though.

>>124618774
Yeah, it's a bug. Did you have a co-op that died right before it started?
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>>124619181
brah this soundtrack. i appreciate laurence's theme more now that i can hear it properly without a boss fisting me.
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>>124617640
1 arc scaling gem is worth it on basically every weapon including kos parasite, so long as it is an abyssal (level 20). anything less isn't worthwhile

the rest should be arc%. flat arc is a trap; your AR will go up but your damage will go down. this is because the stat screen AR is the micolash punch damage; the tentacle attacks have a huge multiplier, which flats ignore.
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>>124618972
More like the level range for her is all over the place because you can do her immediately after gascan, after BSB, after hemwitches or after Paarl. My first playthrough I took my time as was like 50 by the time I touched Amelia. Others can be sub-20.
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>>124618439
I DIED LIKE A BITCH

IM SO SORRY

MARTYR NIGGERIUS WOULDNT GET OUT OF THE CORNER
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>>124619321
>Yeah, it's a bug. Did you have a co-op that died right before it started?

Nope, the three of us were alive at the end.
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So I'm making a character who is going to use chikage and bow blade. Any ideas on how they should look? My friend said to do Teddy Roosevelt and go hunting with the bow. Any other suggestions?
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>Spend several hours and crawl my way through the fucking chalices to make a pvp character
>Realize after invading for a few hours that pvp is complete shit in this game
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>>124618791
are you near the lamp?, because it won't connect from the elevator room
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>>124617626
>going off the trophy info
i doubt anyone will agree with me but fwiw i don't consider trophies worthwhile canon

celestial emissary for example -- it seems obvious to me that that boss was intended to be a false flag to hide the true secret boss, ebrietas, who is like 2 rooms away behind a breakable wall. in order for the false flag to work, CE has to be made out to be an endgame boss in the trophy info
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>>124598124
I am the opposite I will sump and cheese my way through the game my first run as hard as I possibly can in order to learn the game and see what I like and what I dont, then I can do self impossed super hard mode on subsequent play throughs without just blindly hoping I'm not wasting time on a build or path that is retarded anyways

I have wasted hundreds of hours on sub par builds and stupid choices in RPGs way too many times in my life
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OOOOOH MAJESTIC
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>>124619601

Skinny as possible, white hair and red eyes, lots of scars
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Can we agree on this?

Bloodborne + Old Hunters > Dark Souls PTDE > Dark Souls > Bloodborne > Demon's Souls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dog feces > Dark Souls 2 SotFS > Dark Souls 2
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>>124619474
whoever you were anon

you're a hero

a fucking hero
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>>124619795
Why is Micolash so great? He puts every other BB NPC to shame. Why can't the all be as goofy and eccentric as he is?
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>>124620040
No, sorry I can't.
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>>124619810
Too edgy for my taste. Got any others?
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>>124620040
yes.
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>>124620040
pve only?
Bloodborne + Old Hunters>Dark Souls PTDE>Bloodborne> Demon's Souls>Dark Souls>>>>>>>>>>> Dark Souls 2 SotFS>shit>Dark Souls 2
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>Practicing steak driver while exploring
>Die a few times, get butthurt
>Charge R2/R2 Axe spam my way back to the chillzone
Hunters Axe is best weapon
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>>124620040
>ds2 is bad meme

yeah nah you're a cunt

>muh sif and artorias

holy fuck reddit
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>>124618095

I'm pretty sure I saw it breathing very faintly while it was lying on the shore.
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>>124620252
>practice new weapon
>my Saw Cleaver is better
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>>124620359
This everytime
i really want to use the other weapons but the saw cleaver is the pinnacle of the weapons on Pve and PvP
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>>124620435
>pinnacle of pvp
kek.
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>>124620186
I spent 200 hours on Dark Souls 2 and wish I could get a refund for the waste of my life. Meanwhile I spent 2k+ on Dark Souls and don't regret it.

>>124620247
If we're talking pvp, I would have to say
Dark Souls > Demon's Souls > Bloodborne > Dark Souls 2

>>124620269
Have you ever thought that maybe so many people think it's shit because it's actually shit?
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>>124620040
accurate. majestic taste
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>that small gold whistle on the constable garb
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>>124620186
I've spent more time in DkS2 than you and I still agree with OP.

>>124620269
>r-reddit!

DkS1 DLC was amazing and not just because of prepare to cry faggotry. DkS2 being bad isn't a meme, it objectively has worse level design, atmosphere and characters. It's saving grace is PvP gameplay but SM fucked that up and the gameplay in general is just sluggish and awful. Completely different from any of the other games and not for the better.
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>>124620040
BB + TOH is almost up to the level of the original DaS. TOH added enough content to make BB passable as a complete game but it's still lacking both in breadth and quality in comparison to previous souls games.

An actual tier list would probably go like this:
DaS1+AotA > DeS > DaS1 > DaS2+SotFS > BB +TOH > BB > DaS2
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>>124620620
>lacking quality
moveset of each weapon > darksouls.
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>>124620252
Stake driver was the most dissappointing weapon for me. After fighting Djura the first time I was so hyped, but once you actually use it you realize it's shit.

I wish it behaved more like the boomhammer where you cock it then do a big hit.

Hunter's axe is the opposite, I thought it would be another shit axe but damn that moveset both modes is just so good.
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>The boss is about to die
>jump in with a smash to get the final hit.

I just can't help myself sometimes...
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>>124620530
>>124620574
>>124620040
So is this what you generally do in /bbg/. Talk about how bad DaS2 is? wow
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>>124620269
>soul memory
>good
>adaptability
>good
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so how does co-op in this game work? just starting it for the first time
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>>124620825
yes. better then you visiting bbg because you can't play it.
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Why sometimes I can't escape from saw r1 mash?
>>124620620
Disgusting post
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P-Please use me... I-I'm a good weapon, honest...
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>>124620530
pvp as in fighting and what not?

Bloodborne>Demon Souls>Dark Souls>Dark souls 2
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>>124620825
you know we've seen this shitposting tesuji like a million times right
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>>124620530
>Have you ever thought that maybe so many people think it's shit because it's actually shit?
This is the same reasoning behind call of duty and halo are the greatest videogame franchises of all time, why naruto is the best chinese cartoon in history and why the summer blockbuster of any given year is the greatest movie of all time, until something else beats it at the box office.

So many people think DaS2 is shit because so many people let others tell them what to think of a game. The same reason so many people that've never played DeS claim it's the pinnacle of the franchise. You literally fell for the meme and hoped the bandwagon of popular opinion rather than formulating your own.
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>>124620825
Yes. We also shitpost and make sweeping generalizations from handful of posts.
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>>124620925
>this tired ass meme

I have the game running right now.
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>>124620194

Become Giorgio A Tsoukalos on the quest to learn more about the ancient aliens of Yharnam
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What's Strength/Arcane like if it's even a thing? I just want to mimic Artorias
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>>124620914
the summoner rings a bell. the one being summoned rings a different bell.
then you just wait.

there are ingame passwords thst allow to exclusively get summoned by or summon password users.
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>>124620970
>Demon Souls > Dark Souls
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>>124620825
No we dont, an asshole like yourself comes along and starts shit with his
>r-reddit
>Ds2 is bad meme! H-Ha
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>>124620914
pretty early on the messengers will give you the beckoning bell. ringing it opens you up to cooperators entering your game, but also invaders

to cooperate with other people buy the resonant bell from the insight store in the dream, or the sinister bell for invading
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>>124620892
>bad features break a game
RALLY BROKE THE SOULS FORMULA

CHALICE DUNGEONS ARE SHIT

MUH GEMS

Plus, Soul Memory fucking broke the "SL meta" meme, which was a goddamn godsend.

>anime reaction image

hoboy
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>>124620825
>So is this what you generally do in /bbg/

A few posts = to whole general

This is the first time I've seen DkS2 mentioned in a few threads, actually.

>>124620914
You consume 1 insight to ring your Beckoning bell, if another player has rung their Small resonant bell in the area it will pick them up provided they are in your level range. It can take ages sometimes and just not work at all but with the recent patches it's been pretty good.
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Can you slow/rapid poison with transformed bowblade?

I'd test it myself but apparently all your gems in storage dissapear between NG cycles..
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>>124620986
>This is the same reasoning behind call of duty and halo are the greatest videogame franchises of all time, why naruto is the best chinese cartoon in history and why the summer blockbuster of any given year is the greatest movie of all time, until something else beats it at the box office.
Wut?
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>>124620986
Why dont you give actual reasons and stop comparing shit with
>meme! Its a meme!
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>>124621202
>but apparently all your gems in storage dissapear between NG cycles
Wait what?
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>>124621080
>>124621105
>>124621148
so would it be possible with the passwords to just play through the whole thing with a friend? or would only one of us get credit like the older souls games?
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>>124620986
no, so many people think it's shit because it's the worst souls game objectively

normies don't think it's shit
only people that actually like the series

as an average game it's just average
as a souls game it's fucking terrible
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>friend keeps asking me to do Chalice Dungeons with him
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>>124620986
>The same reason so many people that've never played DeS claim it's the pinnacle of the franchise. You literally fell for the meme and hoped the bandwagon of popular opinion rather than formulating your own.

>Been around since DeS
>Hundreds of hours in all the games
>Fell for a meme

Okay buddy
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>>124620962
Yeah you are actually when used correctly
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>>124621257
>so would it be possible with the passwords to just play through the whole thing with a friend?
Yes, it was possible form the beginning though harder because you needed 10 insight to start before patches.
Now you need one.
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>>124621257
Same as other Souls games. It's a single player game with multiplayer elements.

>>124621282
You're missing out anon, CDs are pretty much only fun with other players around.
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>>124621067
STR/ARC is a good build. you can do 50/25 STR/ARC, or (20-25)/50 STR/ARC.

50 STR will let you use STR weapons and do the most damage with hybrid weapons like wheel, but you cannot use elemental weapons or damage tools

50 ARC lets you use any weapon you can convert to elemental, and damage tools. but your hybrid damage will be lower (still usable) and there's some weapons, like amy arm, that you can't convert

both are good builds
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>>124619181
>>124619361

Soundtrack where?
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>>124621392
>You're missing out anon, CDs are pretty much only fun with other players around.

Really? I did a load on my own and they were so fucking boring and repetitive. We could literally just do the actual game in co-op and have even more fun.
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>>124621282
It's ok, just tell him to rush first 3 depths by himself. The fun starts after that.
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>>124620962
>people were actually hype for threaded memer
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>>124620925
>defense against DeS criticism
It's a PS3 exclusive so you probably never played it you contrarian hipster faggot. You're just salty that it was too hard you casual gamer faggot

>Defense against DaS1 criticism
You probably never even beat it you casual. 2hard4u? gitgud lol. You're just being a contrarian hipster faggot for attention, nobody can actually find flaws in this perfect game.

>defense against DaS2 criticism
So here's your argument and he's me addressing each point individually and providing a counter argument. I'll concede some points because the game has flaws, and I recognize that you are correct in asserting them, but your generalizations are simply untrue. You've cherrypicked one or 2 flaws and missed the forest for the trees, refusing to acknowledge any of the positive elements while obsessing over one very specific edge-case flaw. I argue this knowing it's futile because you'll simply cite popular opinion and repeat that the game can't ever be good because you disliked one thing.

>defense against BB criticism
It's a PS4 exclusive so you probably never played it you contrarian hipster faggot. You're just salty that it was too hard you casual gamer faggot

We've come full circle. I guess the next souls game is going to be half-finished and full of flaws but fanatically loved for no other reason than the fact that a director has his name tied to it.
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>>124621121
>Soul Memory fucking broke the "SL meta" meme, which was a goddamn godsend
are you literally defending soul memory because if so, that's the most unreal shitposting i've ever seen. i take it back; you're innovating
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>>124621257
I've been doing just that. You'll get overleveled from all of extra echoes you'll be getting though. 1.5x more echoes for having to do every area twice, once as host, once as summon.

I remember being like level 50 by hemwick.
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>>124621439
I think 25 ARC is enough for any Tools that I'd want to use anyway

Thanks man
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>>124621594
>no feature can have upsides and downsides at the same time

neat world you live in anon

>but 4chan says it's bad so I can't have an opinion whatsoever
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So I just defeated the Orphan of Kos.
There has to be more, right? I mean, where did that dude who told me to kill Maria left to?
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How do I into Quality build?
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>>124621574
>I guess the next souls game is going to be half-finished and full of flaws but fanatically loved for no other reason than mustards getting something actually good to play after DS2.
FTFY
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>>124621510
Were they root dungeons? I should have clarified story CDs are always shit but doing the depth 5 FRC dungeons can be pretty fun.

I enjoy doing SRC co-op with randoms but I don't really like that 99% of the time it's for defiled Amygdala.
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Ok so I'm a new BB player. Just defeated Vicar Amelia and am currently dying to Paarl whenever I'm not trying to explore other areas. Tell me if I have a handle on things thus far:

So I'm a dude who wandered into Yharnam looking for Paleblood (don't know what this is).I got a transfusion and I got pulled into a dream? But then I'm also attached to another dream called the Hunter's Dream which is basically this game's Firelink Shrine. And my objective is to slaughter my way through Yharnam for...some reason. I'm at least aware of the gods/ aliens/ I don't know but I haven't run into any yet and I haven't given the Chalice Dungeons a go yet. But am I at least on the right track?
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>>124608640
>Krill Kosby

Kek.
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>>124621510
d5 FRC spelunking is fun since the threat of death is so real, you can get actual rewards, and you won't have the layout memorized

the best SSRC coop i get is when it's like 5am and the only coop you can get is japanese players spelunking in glyphs you've never seen
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>>124621121
>SOULS FORMULA
bloodborne isnt a souls game
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>>124621689
not when they are this retarded anon.
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>>124621067
Usually it's 50str/25 arc, and you'd use Wheel, Amy Arm, Tonitrus, and Boom Hammer. Then there's the 25str/50arc version that mainly tries to use Wheel's and Toni's trick mode with Executioner's Glove spam and Rosmarinus to back it up.

Holy Moonlight Sword is a weird weapon even by str/arc standards, though. The only arcane damage comes from its projectiles, so 50str/25arc will mainly be using its melee moveset while 25str/50arc will be firing sword beams all day. Even then it's more of a quality/arcane weapon and not a str/arc one, that skill scaling is high enough to still be relevant.
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>>124621769
yes it is
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>>124621252

I have zero stored gems in NG++. I used to have hundreds. Could be a glitch.
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>>124621121
DS2 sucks faggot
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>>124621689
so is your entire shtick that everyone who has an opinion must have gotten it from someone else

because if so i have some bad news for you regarding the philosophy of free will
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>>124621789
How does Quality/Arcane work then? Surely you'd be a really high level at the end of it all
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>>124620770
The roll uppercut for both modes is pretty good though.
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>>124621658
mkay. would I just ask in here if I wanted someone to play with or?
also I remember hearing the axe is the best starting weapon, still true?
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>>124621467
Come on anon it's linked right below one of the post you replied to.
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>>124621730
Yes. May Kosm guide your way!
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>soul memory and adaptability are good
even if i could get pass soul memory and adaptability the simple movement of your character in dark souls 2 is trash. floaty with no weight. still didn't feel right after i fixed the deadzone on the controller. walking in bb is more fun, that's why everyone rp walks.
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>>124621828
Fuck. Now you made me nervous.
My house is on fire and I'm one fight away from NG+ with a char that also has hundreds of various gems.
Going to back up the shit out of BB saves and hope for the best.
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>>124621689
What upside is their to SM? It doesn't even stop twinking. Souls SPENT would have actually had that effect but still would have been retarded.

Matching based on level makes it easier for friends to connect, easier for communities to organize events and so on. All SM does is restrict your ability to play with others and make it difficult.

>I can't actually argue anything so I'll just say your opinions aren't yours and call it a day
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>>124621574
>every other games defense force werent as polite and sofisticated as Ds2s. Truly we are above the other peasants with our well established arguments.

and tip to you good sir.
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>>124621957

I have a 35/30/35 mlgs build thats level 110 (my highest level character by far) that has ~800 AR
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>>124621693
Check properly the area right next to lighthouse hut lantern.
Also go check nightmare Great cathedral.
There's a surprise waiting for you.
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>>124621974
I see people ask for help here all the time and almost always get it.

I don't know about finding someone to do an entire playthrough with you. I did that with a close friend.
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Where the fuck is simon the harrowed

I just beat the whole fucking dlc and now I learn from pulls this eileen shit again and puts an npc in the one place i don't check or has it blend straight into the fucking background
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>>124621594
They reintroduced SL matchmaking in the arena specifically to pander to DaS1 pvpfags and you know what happened? Cancer.

SL matchmaking a shit, it's a shit for the very reason that /bbg/ desperately parrots the 98 meta because they need to set their level cap at a specific point in order to avoid another community that's congregated as a certain level range like a refugee camp.

SL matchmaking is shit because it becomes 'the biggest community decides the rules of pvp and sits in on the most active range being the traffic cops of multiplayer.' 99 and up becomes the reddit/gamefaqs sandbox and anyone else has to run from that range or else be subject to their autistic honorfag mentality and 150 'do everything' build meta. It sucks.
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>>124621769
;)
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>>124622249
fromsoft can't help you if you're blind.
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>>124622131
Excellent rebuttal. I liked the part where you chose to show that you thought you were above providing an argument by responding with a meme.
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>>124622283
i think you might need to cut back on social networking

you are oversocialized with respect to communities that you clearly hate

you should just like, hang out with friends
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>>124621769
Damn, he got you there, guys.
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>>124622283
Nobody cares about your shit opinions faggot
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Do I farm for my kosm gems in Isz?
and where do I farm bloodtinge gems for my bloodletter and etc?
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>>124621730
You wandered into Yharnam looking for Palebood. Reason unknown, largely believed to be for a cure to whatever sickness your character had.

You got the blood transfusion, trippy shit happened, and now you're a hunter bound to the Hunter's Dream. Your character remembers nothing about their past, and your current goal is to find the source of the beast scourge and put an end to it. Scouring the world for lore notes will help make sense of things.

On a side note, Bloodborne is the type of game that doesn't say you have a sanity meter. Bet you can't guess which one it is.
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>>124622131
he's not entirely wrong though

there aren't a whole lot of game ruining flaws for other souls games

it's only Dark Souls 2 that has so many fucking retarded, god awful mechanics that make the game absolutely unenjoyable
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>>124621730
Pretty much, except the transfusion didn't pull you into a dream-world, it's just you now have some Yharnam blood of your own and everything that goes with it. You are tied to the Hunter's dream, however.
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>>124622429
>shitposts an unambiguous strawman
>demands serious counterarguments
literally what would a counterargument even look like

a link to a wikipedia page on good faith?
>>
NEW THREAD WHEN?
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>>124621957
I dunno, the best I can figure without going over BL100 is 25str, 25skl, and 40arc. It'd probably be more feasible at BL120.

>>124621828
Yes, it's a glitch. There's been word about DLC gems disappearing under certain conditions, but you might've found a new variant of that.
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>>124622283
community deciding the meta is the way things should be

the DaS1 arena was dead at release because From chose retarded SL brackets themselves

if you don't like the meta, then pick your own

it's not hard
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> Slay Paarl without fucking trying on yet another fresh new run.
> Remember all the release month complaining about how hard he is.

Sometimes I think this general sucks, then I remember the old days.
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>>124622429
no you clearly put yourself and your game above every other game because you think there arent people just as arrogant about ds2 as they are about any other souls game.
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>>124622687
>There's been word about DLC gems disappearing under certain conditions, but you might've found a new variant of that.
Thanks for the reminder.
I'm going to check the slugs if it was fixed in 1.8 patch or not.
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>>124622584
>>124622486
>>124622028
Thanks. This game is kind of trippy compared to Dark Souls. Anyway I'm trying to wean myself off the Hunter's Axe but I don't know what I'm going to switch to yet. I'm still at the stage where I'm more trying to survive the game than anything else. But thanks
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>>124622909
I don't think it was.
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>>124622747
The same can be said for any boss. Literally every boss in this game crumbles like wet tissuepaper when you know the proper strategy. BSB? walk diagonally to the right and hit r1. Logarius? backstab and parryspam. Ebrietas? Hug the thigh
There's no bloodborne boss that's mechanically challenging outside of the dlc once you learn the proper method of fighting them.
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>>124621723
>How do I level two stats at the same time

Minimum 25/25 STR/SKL, pump SKL for more visceral damage, pump STR if you prefer STR weapons.
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>>124622916
What stats are you looking at for damage, in general? since you're using the Axe I assume you're a strength man?

You might want to give Kirkhammer a try.
>>
has anyone tested if beast mode changes how other weapon animations look? Like the hunter axe for example.
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>>124623318
Yep, nothing changes except for the claws.
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>>124620040
sounds about right desu. well done
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Well, this is awkward. Trying to make a new thread using http://pastebin.com/wxD03UzV, but the field is way to fucking long. What gets cut, anons?
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Can I build an arcane Saif user?
I really want to go Arcane for once but I also want to try the Saif.
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>>124623501
Why wouldn't you be able to? Just stick elemental gems in it, that's why it has arcane scaling.
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>>124623317
I've been putting most of my points into STR but I'm up for experimentation. Kirkhammer did recently show up in my shop so I think I'll take your advice. Either that or save up a bunch of Bloodechoes for Ludwig's Holy Blade.

Out of curiousity is it worth it to put points into Bloodtinge? I mostly use the pistol just to parry.
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>>124622916
The Hunter's Axe is great and could carry you until the end of the game if you wanted. Just don't invest too much in STR/SKL until you find your weaponfu, I guess.

I usually advise people to level VIT to 30 first and by then you may have found a weapon or two you'd want to try. If you aren't new to Souls games though you probably don't need this advice.
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>>124623119
FRC Pthumeru Descendant without chainstabbing
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>>124623736
how does one chainstab descendant?
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>>124623736
>without chainstabbing
>without
That's like saying "Paarl without knocking him down."

Of course a boss becomes difficult when you avoid using effective tactics against them, the point is that they're trivialized when you use those tactics.
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>>124623639
bloodtinge is really only something to put points into if you're using melee weapons that use it, like the Chikage, or the Bloodletter. Largely, no. Pistol damage is so low normally that it doesn't matter.

For the most part just get the stats for the weapon, get end to 15-20, gouge vit like a mother, and then get your damage stats.
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>>124623736
what's chainstabbin?
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>>124623676
im not new, but I havent played one since DaS got ported
thanks for the advice anon.
>>
NEW THREAD

>>124623805
>>124623805
>>124623805
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>>124623975
>get behind
>charge R2
>visceral
>run behind while they get up
>charge R2
>visceral
>repeat
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>>124623676
>>124623908
Well thanks for the direction. I'm going back to trying to kill Paarl and getting revenge on the two assholes behind Amelia's church.
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>>124623635
I was only unsure because I haven't fucked with Arcane like, ever.
How's this, then?

http://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/9463
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>>124622035

Environment, enemies, story etc aside I still think the controls or what ruin ds2. Literally hundreds of times I'm standing still, push r1, and my character turns and attacks off into the distance. Same for if you were strafing before you attacked.

So often I'm just fighting my own sword rather than the enemies.
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>>124623103
It wasn't.
Fuck, I was curious what kind of poorman wanings you can get.
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>>124623119
Honestly BSB is only difficult if you actually try to fight him conservatively on the third phase

His one attack is a joke to avoid and the poison doesn't matter until he is at 15% hp and you can just dodge once and rush him down

I feel like people over simply boss hints and shitters just completely miss what is happening because they are trying to do exactly what people told them
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>>124622747

BSB was the worst for this

I couldn't believe what a bullshit boss it was but today I can ace him without getting hit
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>>124598898
LOL

first
>halp ludwig
next its gonna be
>halp maria and her wepon :^(
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>>124617065
>you never coop or pvp with anyone.
You couldn't be more wrong. You're just too stupid to realize I'd have to be retarded to identify myself as loranon when playing with you.
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>>124617725
>Here's me cancelling a kosplosion
that proves literally nothing. I know it can be cancelled. The window is too small and the range is too big.
> if you miss and you're in range you're dead.
And yet you argue that this attack is reasonable. Clearly you're beyond hope. Blinded by fun, unable to realize it's legitimately too good.
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>>124618713

He wants you to look like Gehrman. Gehrman's his favorite.
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Is the MLGS bugged or some shit?

2H is fine, maybe a bit dissapointing, but the untricked R2 deals absolutely obscene amounts of damage
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