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Back to business, then edition

AC7 Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zuBSUJfpBk

Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSIzQqQ8AhE

<< Update 12 Trailer >>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YWgl6-6lrI

<< Frequently Asked Questions >>
[ http://imgur.com/a/tvBPL ]

<< Recent Events >>

Continuing to che through Excalibur Onslaght, people still not killing all of the aerial units
Co-op tournament has ended, rewards now available
Gold box? It's probably more Idol emblems or tickets
Ace Combat 7 has been confirmed to return to Strangereal. VR equipment will not be required to play the game.

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<< Ace Combat website (JP) >>
[ http://acecombat.jp/ ]
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[ http://ace-infinity.bngames.net/ ]
<< Project ACES twitter (JP) >>
[ https://twitter.com/PROJECT_ACES ]
[ https://twitter.com/hashtag/ACEINF?src=hash ]


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<< Old OP >>
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<</aceg/ pilots spreadsheet>>
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<</aceg/’s guide to Ace Combat Infinity>>
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Previous Thread
>>124449498

Because it bears repeating, with alterations
>AC7 Soon™
>HD Collection Never?
>PS4/PC/XBOX Port NEVER(?)
>Don't believe the statbars
>You chucklefucks let it die again
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First for dildo plane.
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>>124560803

Its either that or get thrown into the aircraft graveyard and rot forever.

At least they are made useful by providing live training to our boys.
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>>124561087
You're just jealous because it's beautiful.
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Not sure if anyone still cares about Infinity right now, but Doko Demo Issyo (Literally what) collab challenges are up.

Quite a few challenges requiring specific planes, but there are 4 that reward 50k credits each using each plane types (Fighter, Attacker, Multirole, Pistons).
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1st for
FEMININE
DICKS
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>>124561436
>Aigaion
>feminine
You're one of those machine fetishists from /m/ aren't you.
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>>124561526
For reference, our /vg/ league team manager knows the /m/ council
If the amount of mecha plane anime discussion didn't trip you off to the /m/ population, nothing can
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>>124561186
>sometime in the future this will be done with F-22s
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>>124560934
>this OP image

indistinguishable in the catalog you chucklefuck!

nah you're alright, at least you made a new thread
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>>124561787
>If the amount of mecha plane anime discussion
We don't even talk about it that often anyway.
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>>124561787
Speaking of which, anyone gonna watch the new Makurossu?
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>>124561087
I'm not an expert on this, but just guessing, wouldn't having the fuselage elongated like that induce more Gs on the pilot during a pitch change, as in being further away from a fulcrum?
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>>124562223
Do not question the beautiful flying axe.
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>>124562110
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>>124562361
I always forget how fucking big planes are
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>>124562361
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>>124562223
It's literally shaped like a dick. Don't question the influence of reality
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>>124562361

Its fucking perfect.

Favorite Plane
Favorite color scheme
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>>124562560
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>>124562629
>I remember the vast majority of 6's DLC being free
Are you for real? Only a few skins were free. As the game began dying only a few more skins and the multiplayer maps became free, while some of the free shit was being pulled off the marketplace for god knows what reason.
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>>124561402
One month to do it, and all co-op so no TDM before new year. Cool.
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>>124562361
>>124562560
>>124562837
I wonder if gameplay will look like that. Not to think negative but, this looks fucking good.
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>>124562837
Looks like the superweapon may be ours. Now that I look at it, it strongly resembles the Arkbird
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>>124563084
It's a titanic flying wing again. I wonder which Belkans are responsible this time?
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>>124563079
These apparently are indeed gameplay stills. It shouldn't be much of a surprise, Ace Combat's more recent titles have paid pretty good attention to visual fidelity
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>>124563084
That's what I liked about AC5: we had a superweapon on par with the enemy for a change
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>>124563084
>>124563248
How the fuck does something that big even get off the ground if it's prop driven?
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>>124563385
Because Ace Combat.

don't question video game logic
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>>124563279
The cloud and weather and day/night effects are whats getting me excited.
>>124563385
When has physics ever gotten in the way of Project Aces?
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>>124563279

Remind me of this.
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>>124563279
I got this burning feeling that those UAV carriers won't even be considered the mid campaign boss. Seems like the reveal is too early.
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>>124563385
By the power of Belkan Space Magic
Don't lie, you know it to be true
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>>124563385
The propellers spin really really fast
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>>124563627
I'm betting on the space elevator being the big bad.
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>>124563385
There's theoretically impractical options.

Osea has a mass driver, so they could build something like that to give it a push into the air. There now appears to be a space elevator so it could've been built high up on it because fuck logic and practicality we want this thing off the ground. Could've been piggybacked on any other flying nonsense kind of like a glider launch.
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>>124563597
Woah....so this is....the power of belkan clay
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>>124563705
I think the Space Elevator will relate to the mid campaign boss. Either that or Belka will just tip it over causing it too fall on a city or something.
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>>124563838
>>Could've been piggybacked
>build an even bigger plane to launch your already impractically large plane

Yup, it's Belka
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>>124563084
The big flying thing? The one that launched UAVs which the Osean F-22 shot down?

Or are you assuming we're playing Euresan underdogs this time haha it'd be cool to be part of a new yellow squadron but nope
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>>124563079
Its made on UE 4, there's no reason for these not to be ingame screenshots
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High quality trailer download here http://www.allgamesbeta.com/2015/12/ace-combat-7-announced-for-ps4-includes.html
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>>124564018
or they're building some super space weapon and are using the elevator to transport the pieces.
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>>124564018
Knowing Belka and PA they'll probably use it for building a colony, and dropping it somewhere on Osea.
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>>124564117
So, can we have a mega-carrier full of Aigaions?
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>>124564117
>build an even bigger plane to launch your already impractically large plane
A huge plane to launch a big plane that launches lots of little drone planes.

YO DAWG I HEARD YOU LIKED PLANES SO WE PUT PLANES IN YOUR PLANES SO YOU CAN LAUNCH WHILE YOU LAUNCH
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>>124563297
https://youtu.be/JtfBZjCcnF4?t=1m10s
<<Data link to A-sat targeting system...>>

It was at this moment that AC5 became my favorite PS2 game. All that enemy chatter freaking out about the Arkbird was so gratifying. Having a super weapon on your side was great.
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>>124564295
>>124564232
>>124564160
1995 burns strong in their memory it seems
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>>124564295
Estovakia pls, I can only get so erect.
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>>124563279
>>124563079
>>124562560
>>124562361
>>124562110
>>124563084
>>124562837
The actual res for these are much higher than what the PS4 would output at
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>>124563838
maybe they attach reins to the drones like a dog sled and when it's up in the air they come back to the plane
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>>124564493
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>>124562837
What's that say above Navy? It looks like USS Theodore Roosevelt to me but it's too blurry to be sure.
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>>124564540
Yes I like the way you science.

How'd you like to work for Belka designing our newest superweapon?
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>>124564708
It does indeed say USS TR
Probably a placeholder skin
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>>124564718
1 Step ahead of ya
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>>124564708
No idea. Kno mentioned in the Pa twitter that we're officially back in Strangereal, so that's unlikely
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>>124564925
>166628 or something
>666
GALM CONFIRMED

I'm kidding of course
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>>124564493

>higher res than what the PS4 would output at

Could that mean what I think it means
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>>124565171
Hey, if Strangereal can have stonehenge and King Arthur, why can't it have Theodore Roosevelt?
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>>124565171
Someone should ask him about dog fight mode

>>124565364
Bullshots, yes.
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>>124565171
>>124564925
Ah, nvm. So it is. Might be a placeholder in that case, though it's an awfully specific carrier to choose.
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>>124564160
No we must get more Belkan. They're building the elevator to get a tractor beam in range so that they can stop the orbit of the moon, dooming the coasts of Osea and the Yukes.
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>>124565412
I think it means that he thinks it means that a PC port is a possibility but yes, you're right.
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>>124565393
>Theodore Roosevelt is the space elevator
>Speak softly and carry a big stick
>The space elevator is that stick
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>>124565562
Even sony exclusives do this with the screenshots. I'd love it on PC, but I think I may have to buy a PS4
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>>124564160
>>124565393

I solved it.

The space elevator connects StrangeReal with RealStrange, and Theodore Roosevelt rode it to cross dimensions.
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>>124565702
Also, they could be upscaled. 2000x1208 is an odd resolution
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>>124565743
PERFECT
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>>124565743
That actually sounds interesting
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>>124565743
It's so crazy it might just work
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>>124564493
>>124565412
They could always just edit screenshots. Guess we won't know till later.

I wonder if they will keep the destruction gore. It was a nice edgy touch to the combat. ".
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>>124566114
I hope so. I'd prefer some sort of particles and such
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I hope we get contrails like AC6 again, that shit looked nice.
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>>124566401
Infinity doesn't have them?
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>>124566473
Not quite, I don't think?

I remember being able to see obvious furballs in the distance in AC6 and there's plenty of opportunity for that in Infinity but I can't say I've noticed it. Maybe I'm blind.
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>>124566473
No, they were pretty strictly exclusive to 6. Was meant to go with the whole "angel" theme the game had going, as if you really were flying through the heavens, so to speak.
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>>124566838
>as if you really were dancing through the heavens, so to speak.
fix'd
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>>124566643
>>124566838
Why. Implementing the contrails wouldn't even be that hard, wouldn't it?
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>>124565743

When Infinity was announced and information started coming out I got super excited because they sorta mixed Earth and Strangereal.

I had this theory that Earth sorta became Strangereal after the Ulysses asteroids or something, and thats why the planet sorta looks like ours
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>>124566643
Infinity doesn't render things past a certain distance. It uses the assault horizon engine which was made for only up close.
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>>124566973
Well yeah, that's kind of what happens in Infinity. If there was more story maybe we'd get more than just bootleg USEA.
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>tfw HCAAs seem actually decent
But do they get faster at higher lvls? the fuckers crawl at lvl 2.
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>>124566941
It'd be too much graphic processing for the system to handle. I already see slowdown often enough on Adriatic.
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Do you guys think the story to Infinity will be completed?
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>>124567287
Slightly faster. You'll get the shits trying to hit anything flying at a decent speed away from you at 2000m+ though.
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>>124567493
no
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>>124567493
There there anon.

There there.
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>>124567493
It's been finished for over a year
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>>124566973
>Earth sorta became Strangereal after the Ulysses asteroids or something

I thought the same theory also.
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>>124567493
In 7.

I think PA is crazy enough to make a final countdown scenario.
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>>124564137
>Spanish subs

But otherwise, HNNG THAT FRAMERATE/DETAIL
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>>124567724
But there's no Erusea in Infinity
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>>124567682
>>124567128
>>124566973

Also thought this, like the impact of the asteroids was so great it brought about some sort of alternate dimension.
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>Elevator jumping girl
Is she the new waifu of this game?

Actually, can we get a new waifu list?
>AC2
Edge
>AC3
Rena
>AC4
Yellow 13
>AC5
Nagase
>Zero
PJ/Pixy
>AC6
Shamrock
>ACI
Omega
>X2
Sulejmani
>Assault Horizon
AC-130 lady

Did I miss anyone?
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>>124567493
It's finished, as in, it's purposely incomplete. "Infinity" in the title means the war goes on forever.

The campaign is just the prologue to the Online Co-Op.

Missions 1-5 establishes what USEA is, why the UNF hires the players to go on the Co-Op missions, and why players have to keep on fighting on the same maps over and over.
7 gives a reason for why the Butterfly Master keeps on reappearing, and 6 & 8 are initial strikes that allow UNF can send players on the Co-Op missions into Eastern Europe/Russia. Likewise, 8 shows that the meteor drop reoccurring in Tokyo every so many missions isn't a coincidence.

The story isn't "We're gonna stop USEA and the Butterfly Master", it's "The UN and USEA are gonna have massive airbattles forever."
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>>124568278
Yellow 4, not 13
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>>124568278
My AC5 waifu was the Yuke Major.
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>>124568381
>Implying I wouldn't rather bro-fuck Yellow 13 over the dead fish Yellow 4
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>>124568410
Did she used to be your lady friend?
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Trailer makes me worry DFM is back. Put my fears to rest
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>>124568653
iirc word of god is no DFM
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>>124568606
Nah, that's just an old war wound now.

>>124568653
Was not included in Infinity.
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>>124568527
>Has a fat cry over his daughterfu for the entire rest of the game
>Not a wet fish

Yeah nah mate, I'd rather have a go with the corpse
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>>124568653
I thought the same especially how the camera angle was and the way they were flying. But that could have just been the cinematic styling or whatever the fuck.
Either way I doubt it'll be in the game considering how much backblast they got for it back in AH
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>>124568278
> zero
PJ'S gf
> 6
Talisman's wife

Ftfy
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>>124568278
>AC2
The Gripen and the XFA-27.
>AC3
Cynthia, Fiona and Rena are more or less on the same level, which is good. It'd probably be faster to just say Parker, Dision and Simon a shit.
>AC4
Meh.
>AC5
Bartlett.
>Zero
Pixy.
>AC6
Snake Pit for being insane to the point of flying in the middle of the battlefield. Pasternak would be a close contender if he wasn't a fucking idiot.
>X2
Fuck everyone. One side was comically evil and the other was almost literally "goodest goy" tier.
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>>124568281
Who the hell is the jackass with the Infinite-111 Emblem then?
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>>124568828
>Talisman
>Wife
Pick one. He's a NEET, it's been discussed.
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>>124568653
>the DFM in Legacy was completely optional and could be easily ignored altogether
>then Infinity has no DFM at all

Going by the recent trend it seems highly unlikely it will have DFM.
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>>124569015
>Pasternak would be a close contender if he had more than three lines
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>>124569047
Wait what? Did I miss a dank meme or something?
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anyone else get a 'place promised in our early days' vibe from that space elevator?
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Are the PSP games set in Strangereal?
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>>124569204
Skies of Deception is, Joint Assault isn't
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>>124569162
>All but 2 of the planes in 6 have an im@s skin
>They're also among the best in the game
>As a result, players tend to use the shit out of them when playing
Because of this, we like to joke that Talisman is a titanic weeb
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>>124569120
Even if he had very few lines it seemed to be the kind of officer that was seriously concerned about his men, he even tried to snap one of his mates of out the ">tfw no gf" depression.

>>124569204
X is, X2 isn't.
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>>124569015
Yeah, Snake Pit and Ghost Eye were pretty swell.
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>>124569162
Nah just somebody can't tell the difference between Shamrock and Talisman. Or Melissa or that lady with the daughter.
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>>124569204
X, yes.

X-2 (Joint Assault), no. It's set in... "RealStrange". It's our Earth's geography and similar history, but with traditional Ace Combat shenanigans (giant air battles, famous aces, super weapons, etc). It's a similar feel to Infinity.
Assault Horizon is literally our Earth, no superweapons or anything, totally separate continuity from RealStrange. There's even a line from a pilot mentioning "Ace Combat", so in the AH world Ace Combat is a video game series to them.
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>>124569385
>All but 2 of the planes in 6 have an im@s skin
The fist is the CFA-44, what's the second? The Tornado?
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>>124569482
Well, AH technically has that nuke thing, Barely a "Super weapon" though
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>>124567493
It was all a dream
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>>124569482
>There's even a line from a pilot mentioning "Ace Combat", so in the AH world Ace Combat is a video game series to them.

What
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>>124560934
You know, I'm still excited for AC7. But immediately after watching the trailer for the first time I felt a little unsure. I couldn't tell you what felt wrong but something did. Then I gave into the hype and had a great time. But after watching the trailer a few more times, I think I can articulate why.

Look at AC0’s trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzBO0XV6Jps

It’s very melodramatic and yet cool in that distinctive AC fashion. It shows off lots of great music and action and it’s got that great corny AC dialog. More importantly, it shows off actual parts of the game; the way the planes fly and the cutscenes/characters look.

None of that is in the AC7 trailer. Take the voice acting. It’s ACX-tier bad and sheds no light on the story. It’s not just poorly acted, it’s generic with no real meaning or context. And then there’s the “gameplay” or what substitutes for it. I know that what we’re seeing isn’t what the final gameplay will be like, but it doesn’t look like classic AC gameplay. Instead the planes follow each other real close in what looks like DFM, not to mention those ridiculous missiles. I know it’s not what the final build will look like, but why would they choose to make it look similar to DFM in a debut trailer? It’s doesn’t give off that classic AC feel. The whole thing felt generic. Like it was something some western studio would do for an unrelated project. If I had seen this trailer with no knowledge of AC I would have told you it was a generic arcade game with no story pumped out so there could be a VR-compatible game at launch.

I’m still looking forward to AC7. But I feel more concerned than I would have if they had just made a press release with no material, and that bothers me. Even after the end of this trailer I still have no idea what kind of game AC7 will be. Hopefully we get a clearer (and good) picture as they release more promotional material.
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>>124569459
Wasn't Melissa the lady with the daughter or are you talking about Shamrock's wife WHO MAKES THE BEST QUICHE AND BRING A BOUQUET OF FLOWERS FOR HIS DAUGHTER I uh what were we talking about?
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Never 4get
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>>124569625
Yes, that's Melissa, and his husband died in the blitzkrieg, in one of the cutscenes it's kind of implied that she recognized her husband's bug's wreck too.
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>>124569162
It was a few months ago. We were trying to discuss the personalities of the player characters.
I think the popular theory was he's just a NEET who lives in base housing, playing videogames and collecting anime figures.
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>>124569565
Yeah
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>>124569827
Do you have the description for the rest of the characters?
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>>124569593
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znvwIRcj0u8
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>>124563385
see >>124563597
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>>124569605
The thing is, it's just a promo trailer
Everything looks prerendered, and there's no classic alt title, implying the game is very early in development
I think we're seeing a trailer designed to build hype, not reveal the meat of the game
Give it time, and we'll see what happens at E3 next year
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>>124569590
>It was all a simulation
Fix'd for truth

>>124569792
>a plane with "Melissa" written on it
>Melissa says something like "he named his angel after me" or something
They pretty much stated it was him.
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>>124569974
>a plane with "Melissa" written on it
>Melissa says something like "he named his angel after me" or something
Wait, what? I don't remember that detail being in the cutscene, and the wreck was charred too.
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>>124563385
>if it's prop driven?

Why does the fact that it uses props matter? The most powerful engines in service is a prop engine.
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>>124570078
It was told, not shown
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>>124570078
Maybe I'm crazy then
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>>124563385
You know we have props that break the sound barrier, right?
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>>124569919
I don't, sorry. If I remember though:
>Mobius
Awkward guy who doesn't say shit
>Blaze
Autist who only replies in yes/no
>Cipher
Edgy dude or qt grill.
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>>124567493
It turns out Infinity is just a video game in the strangereal universe.
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>>124569605
Well to be fair, you can't really compare ACZ's teaser to AC7's. ACZ already had loads of history behind it whereas we're essentially going in blind with AC7. AC4 had a similar trailer, iirc, and its story didn't end up being as worldly as AC5, ACZ and AC6 - all of which were kind of connected by a narrative thread of varying tension: Belka

We've returned to Strangereal proper for the first time in... almost ten years, my god. It's kind of expected of them to tease it as they did, even if the execution of the tease itself was pretty underwhelming.
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>>124570078
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye0uA-AZgMo&list=PL0F73CE7E2617F2B3&t=220s

Now the unrelated odd thing is that earlier in the cutscene her husband's face is obscured in a photograph like what Blaze had all through AC5 but Talisman is obviously not Melissa's husband.
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http://strawpoll.me/6187995/r
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>>124570479
Belka is hardly relevant to AC6. You could beat the game without ever getting to know that Aigaion was the brainchild of a belkan defector.
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>>124565743
Weirdly enough, remember how the early trailers for ACI had two parallel lines in place of where the two ls for "fell" were? And then how at the end of the last campaign mission in ACI the same thing, but with a another line that connected the two separate lines? You can see it here: https://youtu.be/IhpEgbzHhLY?t=20m40s

What if the two lines are the strangereal and realstrange worlds and the line is them connecting in AC7?
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>>124569605
as well as the answers you've already received, I think it's just a product of it's time. Trailers these days are often very sparse on details and tend towards teasing more, in particular for already established properties.

I'm not a marketer but I think the idea behind it is to build a "question" or some sense of mystery or intrigue. That builds hype in the audience and makes them want to find out the answers to the questions the trailer raises. You see it with contemporary movie trailers too.
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>>124570878
http://strawpoll.me/6187995/

Good job linking the results page anon.
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>>124570952
muh assault records

the flavor text was there anon
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>>124570952
>Aigaion was the brainchild of a belkan defector.
WAIT WHAT
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>>124569184
Dude I thought the exact same thing when I first saw it.
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>>124571115
One of the gault team survivors from zero moved to estovakia, designed aigaion using sekrit clay dokuments
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>>124571115
One of the wizard units I believe.
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>>124569963
Yeah nigga but that thing only weighs 1600lbs for an almost 250ft wingspan

and it disintegrated in light turbulence
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>>124571115
One of the rot team members helped design it, if I remember right.
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>>124571115
I think it was a guy from Indigo squad.
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>>124571115
Look at the ACZ and AC6 assault records
Lorenz Riedel
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>>124569953
I hate AH but damn, that's funny.
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>>124571062
That sounds really fucking stupid but they never did say what those lines were for. Might have been for AC7, might have been for some season 2 shit that got scrapped in favor of AC7.
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>>124569625
Ah. I was getting her mixed up with the lady who marries the Estovakian pilot.
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>>124570952
Which is why I said connected by a thread of varying tension. There are a few links and easter eggs to the Belkan War and the Unsung War. They're in passing, but certainly there
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Playing Zero with PCX2. Is the ground supposed to be fucking up? And the sound gets slow or laggy.

Is my PC just shit?
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Everyone who knows me knows that I have only one question - will there be Area 88 planes in AC7? And will they ever come back to Infinity? That's the only thing that matters to me at this point.
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>>124571285
I actually really liked that the ACZ assault records list him as "MIA" instead of outright saying he moved to Estovakia. Makes me wonder what some of the other MIAs got up to.

Also was it ever actually hinted that the Aigaion is based off of the Hresvelgr or is that just fan wankery?
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>>124572258
Ground and sound glitches are part of the package with PCX2 emulation. Ace Combat is always gonna be a bit glitchy unless you're on software mode
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>>124572258
They have emulation difficulties.
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>>124571062
I doubt they're going to jump the shark that bad, more likely it was alluding to how the series was "jumping" from the realstrange universe back to the strangereal universe

I get the feeling the Erusean-colored Mobius emblem is something that's going to appear in AC7 considering we already know Erusea is part of it
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>>124569967
>>124570479
>>124571068
Yeah, that makes sense. I'm sure that once they were sure they wanted to make it they wanted to get a trailer out to quell the idea that Infinity is a last minute cashgrab before the final end of the series.
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>>124571285
>>124571381
>>124571476
>>124571589
For a second I thought you fucks would list all the ace squadrons from zero just for shits and giggles
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>>124572258
>Is my PC just shit?

Yes
You have to use software mode to emulate them properly, and if you're getting slowdowns in hardware mode then I'm guessing you CPU isn't near beefy enough to handle it
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>PS2 still working
>My copy of Zero is scratched

Fuck this I'm playing 5 until I get a squadron of Falkens again
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>>124572281
Just play Strike Fighters 2 m8.
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>>124572441
It'd make some sense too, an anti-ribbon fighter.
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>>124572707
Ouch, that sucks.

Used discs of Zero should be cheap, you just have to go hunting.
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>>124572707
>My copy of Zero is scratched
And how is that a problem? You can fix it DIY with toothpastes and I'm pretty sure there are stores that unfuck scratched disks for pennies literally everywhere.
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>>124571062
There's a lot of weird symbols and imagery in those ACI trailers.

>that area 88 tease etc
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>>124572775
>the enemy ace has a ribbon killmark on his plane
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>>124572847
>for pennies literally everywhere
>pennies
>everywhere
Not in Canada anymore.
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who would win in a dogfight: /aceg/ or /wtg/?
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>>124572775
>>124572441
>>124572978
>Mobius was shot down
>We Razgriz 2.0
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>>124572750
I don't see any Area 88 planes in that game.
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>>124573329
You can get to fly the Crusader, that's more than enough.
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>>124573116
>/wtg/
>doing anything other then troll each other, whine about balance and shitpost

impossible
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>>124572690
Everything is fine in hardware mode(except for sound gets disoriented sometimes). I tried to run in software mode but I guess my CPU is too shit, game is unplayable slow.
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>>124573116
We have whales, they have balanse)))
Hard call to make, but I'll err on /aceg/ because our lvl 20s can beat their spaded planes
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>>124573531
>troll each other, whine about balance and shitpost
/wtg/ and /aceg/ are oppsosite sides of the same coin. When we face each other, we can finally see our true selves. There may be resemblance, but we never face the same direction.
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>>124572339
>Makes me wonder what some of the other MIAs got up to.

There's one on Mayhem that you only run into on Ace difficulty during a Knight one that people swear up and down that is supposed to be Yellow 13.

http://acecombat.wikia.com/wiki/Erich_Klinsmann
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>>124573627
>>124573660
In all honesty, it depends on wether it's on WG or on AC. Generally speaking the average AC player usually is creative and doesn't give a shit about energy management, don't make use of the third dimension much.
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>A year of whales got us AC7

How much fuel do I need to buy to get that HD collection
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>>124573906
Also I can't empathize how the average AC player thinks that the tighter the turns are the better it is.
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>>124574925
now that you mentioned it, any way to make your plane in ACI do a coin flip turn like those pesky enemy planes? I tried adding air breaks and pitch parts on an f-22 and it's not coin flippy enough
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>>124573586
what CPU do you have?
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>>124575141
The AI essentially cheats like a bastard, so you can't, simply put.
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>>124575585
thought as much, I tried doing the whole, "standstill to warp speed" thing the AI likes to do, could never accelerate fast enough even with the right parts
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>AC7 is real
>mfw
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>>124575341
AMD 5600k
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>>124569605
Infinity was the same with not even a minute teaser. It wasn't until the very last trailer that they showed the good stuff.
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>>124576702
>APU
>an A8 no less
yeah, that's not going to cut it for most stuff, those things are designed for low-power graphics
Haswell Pentiums are GOAT for emulating, you can overclock the shit out of them and they're cheap as dirt
if you ever plan on building an emu box you should go with one of those
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>>124577027
Yea, I plan on upgrading later. Ace Combat Zero was the only game I'm emulating anyway. It's until I find it somewhere cheap, (I'm not paying 80 fucknig dollars).
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>final rank 260 after my last mission

Did I do it? Was the 100 fuel sacrifice enough for lucky numbers?
>>
End of deception event is on the promo screen
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>>124579490
You could just, you know, check the lucky numbers.
Better hope somebody right behind you doesn't get last second points.
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>>124579490
You might get lucky, as long as no one a head banned or a last second sneak bump.
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>mfw Desert Arrow
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>>124579772
In desert arrow for any air target I usually just fired off one missile and let a wingmate finish it off while I shot at other targets. Did wonders during the waiting times.
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>>124579916
Problem I had was with running out of ammo for my gun after pounding the ground targets. It took way too long for the dumb AI to take out an enemy for me.
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>>124579647
Hope the Nighthawks is top 3000....
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>>124580090
I generally stopped firing my gun before the target was dead in order to save ammo. More often then not people end up using more then needed due to bullet travel time and the want to kill a thing until it's dead.
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>>124580240
Good point. Time to boot up the PS2
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>>124580361
Really what you should do is count how many shots it takes to kill a target and remember that forever.
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>Finish mission
>Finally rank 1080+
>I can finally get to the top 1000
>Forced sorties over
>Calculation starts

It hurts so much
Got 5 Excal 1, 2 Excal 2 and 1 Excal 3 today though so I guess its fine....not
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>>124580609
It will never be fine anon.
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great song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcQ5bk5bhjk
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goy up boiz. that emblem is smex
https://twitter.com/ACEINF_INFO/status/673774745322565633
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>all evidence currently points to Ace Combat 7 being PS4 exclusive
>mfw I'm going to have to buy a PS4 when it comes out

Dammit Namco.
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I still can't believe we made two threads in one day, and made the third in the next day.
Just how much does people waited for this announcement?
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>>124581736
>the hype
>the reality
>the AC:I servers close
>I get my life back
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>>124581736
>Just how much does people waited for this announcement?
You must be new aren't you
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so guys..

what if

they do it

>AC7 Comes out
>its a solid 8
>finish the campaign
>it was more than you hoped for ... but it was missing something.

>you go to the main menu to start your campaign+

>a new option in the menu appears
>it has three sub options within it each labeled a number.
>4
>5
>0
>all 3 games HD remakes and support VR

yfw
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>>124579647
That bastard is right, the Alect Fenrir really exists. Now she just turns off her stealth mode.
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>>124582164
> and support VR
I'd fucking flip my shit.
It's never going to happen, but oh my god if it did I'd be so fucking ecstatic.
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>>124582164
there is a padlock
$30 to unlock, each.
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>>124582307
So it probably has ECM as one of its special weapons?
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>>124582164
>hiding that behind a complete game
That's stupid, if anything they'd push that shit hard for marketing purposes.
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>>124582583
FUCK YOU YOU WORK FOR IT. ITS THE CHERRY ON TOP
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>>124582583
>Ace Combat 7
>Strangereal
They already have all the marketing they need.
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>>124582164
>finally manage to beat AC7 on Ace difficulty
>message after final mission says "X-02 Wyvern obtained"
>check hanger, it's not there
>suddenly loud noise outside your window
>neighbors shouting
>look out
>Wyvern taxiing down your street

If we're talking fantasies, may as well go all the way
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>>124579772
>XMAA
>Desert Arrow

You fucked up son.
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>>124582871
I actually just came to your comment
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>>124582583
>marketing material says it comes with a surprise but only if you can prove yourself to be a true ace
>people finish the game but find nothing
>some guy finishes the game on ace with nothing but an F-4
><<congratulations, you really are a true Ace!>>
>HD remastered trilogy unlocked
>>
The stats are in;
10,000 = 20245pts
5000 = 35069pts
3000 = 46805
1000 = 91139
500 = 135522
200 = 312688
100 = 391229
20 = 604132
1 = 2400773
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>tfw Ace Combat will never get the rights necessary to include air superiority fighters from Supreme Commander
>will never ever get to fly these planes in any game ever

I know it would be a random and obscure thing of them to do, but I think it'd be neat.
>>
soon
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>>124584001
>flying anything but the ARM one
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>>124584001
I wanna fly a Mig 37

so close to trips
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>>124584151
I assume you mean the blue "normal" looking one?
I have no idea what ARM means.
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>>124583826
>1 = 2400773
That overkill
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>>124584335
twice second place and triple third!
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>>124584276
Whoops I mean UEF. Still on the TA factions
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>>124584335
Tanakaichirosan at work

Must be nice having enough money to spend thousands on a f2p game and enough free time to treat it like a full time job
>>
>project aces will never develop an arcade flight shooter equivalent of super smash brothers
>The combined selection of all IPs held by Bandai and Namco's original fighters
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>>124583826
>rank 260

I don't believe it
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Do you expect the war to involve more than Osea and Erusea?
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>>124584760
>this map again
fanfiction is not appreciated
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>>124584509
>k 260
Well done! I was 50 places off getting a lucky Typhoon.
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>>124584805
That's the other map you're thinking of with the countries flags at the bottom.
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>>124584805
>>124584760
I'm so confused with all this map shit someone post a legitimate one for fuck sake
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>>124584865
Only official one.

>>124584760
Is the best fan made one I've seen.

If you see a white background map with flags and loads of names, that's the fan-fiction one.
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>>124584805
this is the proper one
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>>124582004
I'm new to /aceg/, yes.
But seeing the usually ded threads suddenly became this active is a bit jarring, all because an announcement.
I waited for this game since ACX2, saw my brother played AH and convinced to never touch that fuckin cancer
>>
>>124583826
Daily ranking stats. Look at that goy go!
https://twitter.com/ACEINF_INFO/status/673803725555675136
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>>124584976
>>124584760

I just realised how small strangereal is compared to real world. I mean the total landmass of the 2 largest countries (osea and yuktobania) is about 1/4 of the entire world's landmass, not counting antartica
>>
>Guts finally gets off the fucking boat
>AC7 finally gets announcement

It was their fucking plan.
>>
>>124585502
>Guts gets onto another boat
>AC7: Defense Horizon crashes and burns
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>>124585395
>https://twitter.com/ACEINF_INFO/status/673803725555675136
Unreal. Must pour a small fortune into fuel and contracts.
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>>124585597
Fucking dammit or worse,
>Guts gets on another boat
>AC7 goes into development hell
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>>124585497
Must be how they get away with these massive flying fortresses, strangereal is smaller and has weaker gravity
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>>124585697
Worse yet
>Guts gets on another boat
>AC7 secretly gets outsourced to a western developer
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>>124585817
>Tom Clancy's Ace Combat: HAWX 3
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>>124585817
Anon please, I want to sleep tonight
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>>124585919
There is no sleep, anon.
Only eternal waking nightmare.
>>
this always bugs me, why is the arcade flight sim genre such a small niche in video games? there seems to be no shortage of people who's willing to jump in to be a digital infantry with FPS, I mean arcade flight sims are hardly that difficult to get into, hell I'll speak out for tank games and ship games as well, there just doesn't seem to be a lot of these in the past decade
>>
Did anybody manage to fix AC4 emulation problems without using software mode? My computer isn't strong enough to emulate in software mode and I've been meaning to get into the AC series.
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>>124586179
>>
Can someone post a link of a list of pixy's reaction images? I really need more buddyposting
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>I'm paying $400~ to play one game
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I still can't believe we got beaten by the fucking HOPE SQUAD
>>
>Alect emblem doesn't play End of Deception

Well, black smoke might be cool.
>>
I want that fenrir, but with only 50 stocked fuel I don't think I can get it
>>
>>124588336
Well, I mean they had more HOPE than us. How about next time we actually let Belka set up 7 nukes near the goal?
>>
Away from my PS3 so I can't check, but anyone know what the ranking bracket prizes are for this coming tourney?
>>
>>124589614
Junko would find a way to out-Belka even Belka.
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>>124589710
Alect Fenrir's top 200, Alect emblem's (black missile smoke) top 1000, Nighthawk skin's top 3000.
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>>124563385
>>
>>124583826
>around 2000s with supplied only
>miss a single day
>drop out of top 5000

oh well

>>124561787
Eh, mostly as a fan. At some point I got in contact with Goldtiger but never could help much because of my toaster.

That said, if you think AC7 led to a heated discussion, you should have seen what became of /m/ when Gundam AGE was announced.

>>124588336
Basically Mobius choking and bad luck. I'm really just considering going crazy formations this next game to see what happens.
>>
>>124591178
Is there any way to see the game or is it lost forever? I was at work when it happened.
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>>124591361
http://archive.klaxa.eu/VGL5/

Takes a while to download but everything's there
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I hope the Tonka is in from the start.

ADV/F3 too.
>>
>>124568653
Why is everyone so worried about that weird Cobra meaning DFM ? The Yellows did Cobras in 04, it's just that it was never useful and they'd get shot down everytime they did it.
If they can implement a proper Cobra, one that isn't on rails and pauses the game for cool cinematics, I'd get all giddy.
>>
>>124592539
I don't think he meant the cobra bit, konno said the footage wasn't pre-rendered, that it's in-engine and the chase scene looked awfully like DFM, now as for pulling cobras, I tried pulling one off in NTDM, does nothing but gets me killed
>>
>>124593040
>>124592539
Anyone else notice when the camera for the F-22 returns to normal after taking out the flanker, it has that DFM feel to it? Like when you exit DFM or exit a QTE in AH and the camera returns to normal.
>>
>>124593261
But the camera cut to the normal one after shooting down someone in AH. I always found that incredibly jarring.
>>
>>124587903
1/2
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>>124587903
>>124593516
2/2 that's all i got, senpai
>>
>>124593261
yeah that's what worries me, I sure hope that's done just for the teaser as an eye candy
>>
>>124593261
>>124593040

"In engine" doesn't mean actual gameplay, it's obvious that the entire event was built with the trailer in mind

I think it's far too early to be guessing on what the game's going to be like, wait until we see an actual gameplay showcase before starting up the doomsaying
>>
>>124591516
>30 Tickets has a nugget head now
my fucking sides
>>
>>124582871

I like the way you think.

You're hired.
>>
>>124593895
not trying to doomsay anything, just a concern, that said, the series does need some serious gameplay update though, critics of the series say that the gameplay hasn't really changed much since 2 with minor tweaks and additions here and there until AH came along and gave us that infernal DFM among other things.
>>
>>124593040
>konno said the footage wasn't pre-rendered
He meant the planes flying part, right? Because obviously K̶e̶i̶ ̶"̶E̶d̶g̶e̶"̶ ̶N̶a̶g̶a̶s̶e̶ MYSTERY WOMAN jumping off the tower and stuff wasn't gameplay footage.
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>>124594406
>Ace Combat 7: Ace in the clouds
>You play Centurion Ace McCloud
>>
>>124586405

I reckon having to pay aircrqft license fees up front scares off most developers.
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>>124587903
<< yo buddy, still alive? >>
>>
>>124594394
They can add plenty to the gameplay without going all automated cinematics
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>>124584001
If that would be a thing, I wouldn't consider it complete without the Seraphim Experimental Bomber. God, I love that thing.
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https://youtu.be/nCuMLqEiiws?t=1h32m9s

>"My favorite Bandai Namco franchise, and its celebrating its 20th anniversary..."
>That solitary Ace losing his shit
To you my friend, wherever you are.
>>
>>124595831
What if he thought it was Tekken?
>>
>>124596138
The noises he makes when jets fly by says otherwise.
>>
>>124596138
How old is Tekken?
>>
>>124596138
>Getting excited for Tekken
It's like getting excited for CoD or worse. The game barely changes each iteration.
>>
Do you play AC in first or third person view?

https://strawpoll.me/6202431
https://strawpoll.me/6202431
https://strawpoll.me/6202431
https://strawpoll.me/6202431
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>>124596881
fourth person view clearly.
>>
>>124596881

but there are 2 kinds of first person view
>>
>>124597117
Why would you use the shitty one
>>
>>124596881
I fly like a true ace, that's all I have to say.
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>>124596881
I thought everyone was playing in 1st person, interesting
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>>124596828
Only true for everything past Tekken 5.

Though to be fair, Tag 2 and Revolution aren't mainline games.
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>>124596265
21 years.
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>>124597472
I play 3rd because I like looking at my plane
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>>124596265
The first Tekken was released in December 94 in jap arcades and the PS1 version was released in 95. It was a launch title like AC1 was.
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Will AC7 be the ultimate AC game, featuring 5's dialogue system, 0's ace style system, and 6's multiple ground and air operations?
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>>124597597
Which is pretty much the last 10 years of Tekken. And Tekken 7 is already out in arcades so it's not like it's a surprise that'll shake people but I digress
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>>124598463
>Dialogue system
Woof << >> Woof
<< Woof! >>
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>>124596881
Third person.
Unless I'm using the FALKEN, in which case first person all day erry day.
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>>124598463
>not wanting 5's dialogue system, X's mission selection system and 6's operations system
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>mfw just using my supplied on Retro Tokyo Hard for the credits has raised my MR by 50 points in 2 days because I MVP more than 70% of the time on it.

In other news, temporary hard mission bonus is gone.
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>>124596881
I can't play in cockpit view because the cockpit is just on the screen in front of me and not all around me. I don't feel like I'm in the cockpit, I feel like I'm staring at a picture of a cockpit on my screen. Which I am.

The new VR system might actually solve this, or at least make it feel more realistic.
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>>124582529
LAAM,QAAM,LSWM
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>>124599781
I just got back in Infinity, do Retro missions pays a lot?
I'd rather avoid flying retro planes entirely if possible but is the credit boost that big or something?
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>Try that under 1500cst room for the first time
>Take my LAAM R-101 and strip it's useless parts
>Suddenly it's 1490 cst while playing the same way
>steamroll everyone easily

I knew this wouldn't work at all
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>>124599987
I like LAAM on Fenrir as 4AAM on multirole is shit. However QAAM is also shit, and I prefer LASM more on Fenrir.
Now I am not sure whether I go full goy in this tourney to get this black bitch or just keep flying my beautiful silver-grey vanilla and wait for the return of Mobius.
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>>124600513
Retro missions pay the same as any other missions. No reason to play them unless you enjoy them.
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>>124600513
>do Retro missions pays a lot?
No, it was a hard mission bonus that lasted until the end of the Rena Flanker tourney.

It's just that a lost of the times the non-clubber hard rooms I found were piston rooms, so I joined them.
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>>124600917
>>124601257
Thanks
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http://asm.aceinf.glasscore.net/#011l01030r050g0y0c3v1j1w1s04

If cost restricted TDM happens, I am considering buying the golden goy skin and use this build.
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When is the tourney to win the Double Nugget?
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>>124602484
Upcoming cost restricted tourney. 1500 total cst. Only if the leak is correct and bamco doesn't change any details.
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>>124602484
Probably right after Alect.
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>>124603149
I'm expecting Cipher or Razgriz re-run after Alect.
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>>124599781
Maybe you should try your hand against Dick Bong anon. See what kind of ride you're taken on.
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>AC7
>Not assault horizon 2


why...
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>>124587912
You all might, but I had planned on getting a PS4 anyway, the is just further justifies my purchase over an Xbox one. It already has a solid list of titles.
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>>124603391
Probably would get destroyed.

Dick bong anon can keep up with mr 2100 jets on his piston iirc. I can only keep up with 1900s. I'm only level 11 though.
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>>124599781
>>124603391
I'm seeing a lot of1300+ cst props around. Mine is as -FA- at lv. 10 so it means a LOT of people are bringing theirs to lv. 11 and above. There's always some fucker scoring more than 90k.

This is great news for the next prop TDM.

>>124596881
>>124597472
I think first person is more authentic but sometimes I find it difficult to "position" myself when the planes is flying very fast, and sometimes even a bit of dizziness. I think 3rd person gives a better notion of spatial positioning. That said, as others mentioned, I like to see the plane I'm flying too.
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>>124596881
I use first person (real first person not the hud only version) most of the time but I also use third person sometimes to look at the waifu on my plane.
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>>124587912
>implying I didn't already do this to play GZ when it was first released
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Helicopters soon?
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>>124605335
Wow, what a poor return of investment. You should have at least got one or two more games with that.
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>>124606973
NEVER, but the way infinity is going they'd be flying around at mach 2 anyways.
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>>124606973
AH is there for that.
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>>124598463
>It'll feature dating minigame
>Turns out the girl in the spacesuit will be the player character's girlfriend
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>>124569482
>Assault Horizon is literally our Earth, no superweapons or anything, totally separate continuity from RealStrange.

Not entirely true, the Nosferatu ends up being a Cold War superscience project for the slavs, bouncing in and out of NATO's eye over the years due to being a total ghost of a plane. It's not part of the game's plot, but it does factor into background lore.

And yes, miniaturization of railgun technology is sufficiently advanced tech to constitute superweaponry, over in Burgerland we're only just now actually getting EML catapults set up on carriers with the Gerry Fords, and feasible railguns proper are still being worked out by the Navy nerds.
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>>124607273
I just took all that as fluff for a bonus plane, I wasn't aware the Nosferatu was actually considered a serious part of the AH world.
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>>124607220
>ac with romance subplot/minigame
I'm strangely ok with this idea
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>>124607735
>you get prepared to propose to her
>you even bought her flowers
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>>124607853
>You die in a nuclear explosion
>Now playing as Mobius 1
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>>124603396
>He wants AH2
Kongo admitted AH wasn't the best direction for the games. Why would they continue its closed plot?
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>>124607989
That's pretty damn stupid anon. Low quality thinking right there.
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>>124608245
>Not aware of death flags
>Thinks AC7 won't pull a CoD twist
you naive child.
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>>124607989
>Now playing as Mobius 1
>Who is in his 40s by the event of AC7
>And will go by the callsign Infinite 1
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>>124568278
Literal fags please go.
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>>124608501
>Death flags
>When literally nothing has been shown
>We don't even know if the F-22 pilot is the player

The only retard here is you
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>>124608501
>implying we know jack shit beyond Lighthouse, Strangereal, Skydiving grill and UE4 about AC7
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>>124596881
3rd person for most of the game.
1st person for tunnel runs
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>>124598741
>not wanting Zero's Ace Style system on top of that
As long as they have god-tier radio chatter like in the trinity I'll be fine with it
You can hardly have 5's dialogue system on top of X's mission system since 5 shoehorns you into missions based on what you say to Chopper in regards to a coin
Other than that it's just press left or right for a different soundbyte which is funny but pointless, although I guess it did help a bit with immersion
The Ace Style system is an actual gameplay element and one of the coolest things about Zero
Considering how far technology has advanced I'd bet they can make it really involved and maybe even a bit obfuscated so you're not sure exactly what it is that changes it, it depends on your own specific playstyle and you unlock planes that work with it
That would be pretty cool, just so long as there's not some autistic "play 200 games to unlock the next node" infinity bullshit
I want to be able to reach the best fighter in the game after one playthrough
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>>124568278
>AC1
Every female wingman
>Zero
Espada 2
>AC6
Melissa Herman
Ludmila Tolstaya
>ACI
Camilla
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>>124609185
Then again you might play the entire game without unlocking your favorite plane if things go wrong. It should rather be a purchase system where you earn money to buy planes, but parts and higher tiers of specific planes are locked behind Ace Style. Think F/A-18A -> F/A-18C -> F/A-18E being an upgrade line where you only get the A by buying it.
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How many times have you watched the new trailer?
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>>124568828
>>124569047
>Talisman's ex-wife
>Talisman is a NEET
>They're divorced because of that
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>>124609446
Far too often
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>>124609446
Only twice. Its a really shitty trailer.
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>>124609446
3
It's pretty bad and the dubbing is terrible even for AC standards
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>>124609383
yeah, I guess that would work better
come to think of it though something that encourages you to use a bunch of different planes would be nice too
as it is you tend to unlock your favorite plane and then keep using that for everything, if I had some real reason to use a different one I definitely would
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>>124607597
I'll let you in on a secret:
Milfic writers love superscience black project shit, exploring the bounds of what could happen if weapons tech were to advance an order faster than it does IRL.

Give it time (and a mass of rogue asteroid fragments hurdling straight for Earth to foul up the present world order) and AH would've mutated into Infinity as the Military Industrial Complex is freed of regulation and goes straight out of control.

That said it probably would've only been fanservice if the CFA-44 didn't get to have its own little section near the end of the ASF-X Shinden II Master File.
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>>124609669
>>124609816
Get the fuck out.
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>>124610125
Don't be autistic.
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>>124610125
They have a point. I've watched at least 10 times by now, and as a trailer, it does seem rushed and unpolished. I'm hoping (there I go again, when will I learn) this is just a teaser for the explicit purpose of showing that AC7 does actually exist, and at some point we'll get an actual trailer and more actual information.
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I for one hope we can choose your operators again in 7. Seeing their different reactions/behavior for each mission was one of the great things in JA
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so I've been thinking about how to make an arcade flight sim more "open", now I don't mean open world but more about giving freedom for the player.

here's some ideas I had in mind:
-allow the player's ability to chose a side in the conflict, like in AC3

-optional missions that can affect the "main" mission like in ACX

-be able to recruit (purchase) wingmen through a preselected pool or unlocking them by completing certain missions/crippling certain aces instead of killing them, or just call in a friend when you're online.

>AI wingmen will have a "skill", like Infinity's data link, so depending on who you fly with you will have a different bonus effect

-customisable planes with parts and paint that are available through shops or mission rewards

thought about a loyalty meter for the wingmen, depending on how you play (AC0, knight, merc, soldier style) some may leave if they don't like how you fight but if their loyalty meter is high you'll get an added affect from them but this might be terrible in execution.
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>>124610942
I'd rather have 3 wingmen but only 1 is changeable.
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>>124611304
the "rescuing" wingmen bit I got from the Strike Series, you know, the jungle desert, soviet, nuclear strike games
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>>124611526
never heard of it my man
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>>124611628
Old mostly sega genesis game.

but yeah fixed wingmen would be easier for the radio chatter rather than an interchangeable one, which also means better story experience.
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Reminder that the protagonist from AC7 will be the boy for AC04 who is now seeking to get revenge on Mobius 1 for the death of his family.
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>>124612235
that'd be stupid.
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>>124610818
To me it smacked too much of HEY GUYS IT'S STRANGEREAL RELAX IT'S STRANGEREAL LOOK AT THE BLUE SKIES AND THE SCI FI STUFF, STRANGEREAL!

visual direction for this stuff has been crazy even before AH, just look at the opening video for X.

I mean, I'll bitch about 7 to the end of time for selling out to MUH STRANGEREAL but some of you people have the most bizarre paranoias over the visual direction.
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>>124612235
>Mobius one killed his family
>Intro is yellow 13 shooting down random plane and it crashes into boys house
???
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>>124612235

Wat.

Yellow 13 was the guy who inadvertedly caused the fighter to crash into the lighthouse bro.
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>>124612905
>>124613094
Maybe he means family in the sense that Yellow squad was his adopted family?
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>>124612905
>>124613094
Maybe he's just an idiot and took that "The yellows became my family" line to heart.
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>>124568278
ACX is Crux
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>>124587903
here's a bunch I made
http://imgur.com/a/bkSwu
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That background looks familiar... Is this a herald of a demon we thought was dead?
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>>124607853
> Chopper, squadron's motormouth
> Shot down over Osean territory, KIA
>PJ, squadron's motormouth
>Shot down over Belkan territory, MIA, may or may not be dead but disappeared regardless
> Marcus, squadron's motormouth
> Shot down over Chandelier, game made you think he was dead, turns out he's a cripple on a wheelchair now
Noticed a pattern ? Screencap this and mark my words, they're gonna pull this shit off again.
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>>124614385
>yfw AH is the Black History of Strangereal
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>>124614451
>Mobius 1, squadron's motormouth
>Shot down over nowhere, disappears forever
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>>124614602
what if the << YOU'RE MINE >> guy from the trailer is actually moobuss wun guyz
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>>124614451
>laser to the canopy
>not KIA
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>>124610942
>Actually hard opposite armies who aren't only obviously there for you to kill, they're out to kill you too if you're not careful
>You can avoid gameover even after being shot down if you eject before the plane explode
>Depending on your actions you could fail missions forcing you to retreat and that wouldn't be a game over and instead change the story
>The IA's reaction change dynamically, steamroll them too hard and they'll abandon faster. You can decide to pursue or not. The opposite can happens on your ass
>You can choose your own strategies, not just listening to a briefing. Just choose a briefing from 3 or 4 before each missions
>The military force of each sides are represented by a percentage changing according to which Aces, squadrons or super death weapons you managed to kill, which change the story and the number of missions against the losing side.
>A side losing can also benefit another enemy side too, which lead to special missions
>Some planes have special skills. Like VTOL planes can protect ground allies more easily, etc
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>>124615150
It wasn't on the canopy though, when he noticed the laser he started banking to the right, showing off the belly of the plane to Pixy.
Knowing the design of the F-16 it likely hit the engine.
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>>124612235
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Which would you prefer? An original story or a sequel?
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>>124616992
Either one really, a sequel to all the events in strangereal looks like what we might be getting but there are lots of other countries that haven't been really explored yet so an original story isn't out of the question either.
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>>124616992
Well the trailer shows Osea and Erusia fighting so it'd be cool if it's a sequel to five where Belkan agents infiltrated other countries to pit them against the winning alliance of the Belkan War
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>>124617773
Was Erusea mentioned in 5?
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>>124617829
I think only in Operation Katina
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I want AC7 to lead into AC3.
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>>124617829
>>124617936
Yeah Arcade Mode in AC5 has you play as Mobius 1 fighting against the last remnants of the FEAF.
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>>124617951
You and me both buddy.
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>>124618063
>15 years later
>FEAF back again

Fuck man that F-22 was Osean but I really want them to include Mobius 1 somehow, at least a callback. HD Farbanti would be pretty but I doubt it would still be flooded.
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>>124617951
Advance led into AC3
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>>124619146
Maybe into the US version.
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In half an hour I'm opening a room, feel free to join
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>last level of AC7
>suddenly a radio chimes in
>Yo buddy...
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What do you guys think about the glorious Belkan game "Heatseeker"?

I have played it before, but all I remember about it is that the plane contrails are neat.
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>Pixy fought in the Second Usean Continental War
Where in 0 is this stated? Who did he fight for?
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>>124622014
Direct to TV version of Ace Combat.
Pretty damn fun though, nothing will beat doing a carrier landing in a SR-71, and the last couple mission are a right bitch to do.
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>>124622019
If I remember correctly, his interview in Delarus is around the same time as the Second Usea War.
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>>124622019
In the ending of zero you can see an ISAF flag outside
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>>124622019
>>124622942
Interview took place in 2004.
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Which jets are the canon jet of the protagonist in each game? I'm feeling a proper playthrough coming up soon.
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>>124623145
just look at the cover art.
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>>124623145
1 and 2 Su-35
3 I actually have no idea, changes with the route
4, X, X^2, Asshurt Horizon Raptors
0 and 6 Eagles
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>>124623330
>1 and 2 Su-35
>1
>Su-35

It's the YF-22
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>>124623768
My mistake, I simply associated Scarface 1 to a flanker
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>>124623330
also 5 was f-14, or typhoon if you're in europe since their box art is different
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>>124623330
>0 and 6 Eagles

0 was the F-15C, 6 was the Strike Eagle
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Is there a link to the AC7 announcement? I had work all weekend so I missed the stream. I heard about the "OH SHIT!" and wanna see it for myself.
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so since Falken was from AC2 what were the new original planes in each game?
4 had the Whyverns
0 had Morgan
6 had the nosferatu and Shinden II
X has a whole bunch

not sure about the others
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>>124625578
There's no Shinden in 6, I thought that was an infinity original or something?
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>>124625578
>Falken was from AC2
No?
AC2 had the XFA-29
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>>124625783
2 had the XFA-27 as original playable and the Falken, which was unplayable.
Both 0 and 5 were supposed to have the Adler, which was scrapped
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>>124625739
I think he's mistaken, It's AH that had the Shinden, and it also had the CFA-44.
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>>124625326
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_O-It8dEnw
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>>124625578
>>124625739
Shinden's first appearance in a game was Assault Horizon as DLC. Before that it was a plane being developed in the Nagase novel I think.
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>>124626050
>>124625739
my mistake, it was AH
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Am I the only one who likes SAAMs?
Pic semi-related.
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>>124626072
Thanks but is the fucking video uploader talking over it? Pretty annoying.
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>>124626072
>Watch trailer
>Bad voice acting
>The goddamn pilot's talking
DROPPED
R
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P
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>>124626072
What a shitty reaction. The guy in the crowd was more hyped before the trailer came up. I was banging my table when I heard "20th anniversary." And seeing the "Project Aces Presents" made me lose my shit.
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>>124626327
If you just want the trailer it's in the OP. I thought you wanted to hear the OH SHIT guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN5tam4Fo7g
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>>124626489
I did wanna hear the OH SHIT guy but the uploader says WAIT in his dopey voice while the guy in the audience says it so I can barely make it out.
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>>124626408
I was eating pizza at my firend's house and when I saw it by casually checking I started screaming.
Then I told about it to the friend I had intruced to the series a couple of years ago and we actually hugged.
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>>124626216
The mighty destroyer of bombers but sadly not ICBMs!
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>>124626216
Seems like one of the most useless special weapons in the game. You waste so much time steering the thing and it's still not guaranteed to hit. Considering that co-op makes it so that every second you aren't firing a missile or hitting something is considered wasted time, I don't get how people make the SAAM work.
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>>124626408
it's a niche genre and something tells me the majority of the attendees there don't even enjoy the sound of roaring jet engines
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>>124627784
I don't understand why it's a niche genre. The game play should be everything that the average retard gaymer goy wants with the added bonus of feeling like a badass by flying around in jets.
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>>124627435
It's been some time since I played ACI, but I remember liking them because they were basically LAAMs except they actually hit and damage things. They're good for dealing a reliable shot at long range while you fucking gun it towards your target.
Though I'd rather have a bomb as an SP weapon, more versatile.
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>>124628006
jet pilots aren't in anymore.
Its all about edgy special forces sci fi super soldiers.
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>>124623145
Scarface is both Su-35 and the XFA-27.
Nemo doesn't really have one I think.
Mobius is F-22
Blaze is F-14A
Talisman is F-15E
Cipher is F-15
Gryphus, Antares and Bishop are F-22
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>>124607273
>actually getting EML catapults

The things don't fucking work. Even worse, when we decide they don't work in three years it'll be a massive problem to replace them, since the EML launchers were part of the Ford's design so there's no room for all the steam catapult hardware.
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>>124628691
>The things don't fucking work.
proofs
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>>124628368
>It's been some time since I played ACI, but I remember liking them because they were basically LAAMs except they actually hit and damage things.
I've been using SAAMs nonstop for the last couple days.
They're like LAAMs except with comparable (actually, I think it's less) range to 6AAM and you have to keep your focus on that target so your missile isn't wasted, meaning you're wasting time not shooting other things. Mildly better success rate against red planes, but even then they can decide at the last second that they don't want to be hit and literally slide sideways to dodge. MiG-29s can do this too, but I've only seen it happen twice ever.
On top of this, due to the lack of range advantage, once your SAAM finally reaches the target, the points are handed off to someone else and you get no credit.
They're pretty much worthless if you have LAAMs. Or 6AAMs. Or HVAAs. Or anything that isn't 4AAM. The only use I can find for these things is to pop Hard red planes with a mildly better hit rate.
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THRUST VECTORING OWNS THE SKIES
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>>124630491
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CONFIRMED FOR AC7
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>>124609250

>AC6
>Melissa Herman
>Ludmila Tolstaya

Not even mentioning Lanner.

Pleb.
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>>124629091
I've got a <1500cst SAAM YF-23 setup and it works pretty well in both Normal and Hard maps. It only needs Propulsion M/L and maybe the steering circle (S is plenty) if you want to simultaneously track pairs of reds easier.

HVAA is great but I'd only use them with Warhead L and Awareness. And I wouldn't use them in Hard mode either.
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>>124631163
Was that one of the unique friendly pilot's with some radio chatter?
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>>124612235

Wasn't he writing the letter to Mobius 1 though?
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>>124630491
I'M THEIR ACE THEIR ONLY ACE
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>>124630558
I want an evade button in AC7 that pull this kind of moves
>>
>>124631660

Yes.

>fought in all the same engagements as Garuda in an F16

Lanner>Kei
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>>124632126
>Evade button
Enough of this shit. A "cut thrust" button would be enough for doing this silly stuff.
>>
>>124632126
>evade button
All air maneuvers must be done manually nugget.
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>>124632126
>Evade button
I'll pass
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>>124632126
so you want a "please rape my face with missiles" button?
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>>124632126
There is one, it's L1+Left stick.
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>>124633164
That doesn't let you do cobras, that's the point.
>>
Hope they bring back bore-sight from AC0. That feature was damn useful I'm surprised that it isn't in Infinity
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>>124626084
Actually the novel came after.

It was DLC, then the star plane of a technical document, then the star plane of a light novel, then became a rank and file plane for Inf.
>>
What if the raptor is the rival ace and the flagship jet for 7 is a flanker?
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>>124635995
That would be so sick. It would also be sick if we're the Erusians too.
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>>124636281
But I don't wanna fight against based OSEA
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>>124636281
Erusea x Belka alliance best day of my life
Flanker with laser best plane of my life
Filthy Osean vultures need not apply.
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>Playing Join Assault
>tfw Sniper OS

this feels like cheating
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>>124636803
Fucking Oseafats.
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>>124626216
SAAMs and HPAAs are the best
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>>124636803
>Osean bitchbois getting their shit pushed in by a smaller country's army that is taken out by a single plane
>Based
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Anyone wonder what the collective Osean boipussy feels like?
Probably loose from all the cock it's taken.
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Why did nobody tell me that PSX emulation is actually fucking good now that a Jap got involved?

Electrosphere is baller as all fuck.
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is Joint Assault emulatable?
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>>124639870
It's a piece of total garbage that's only slightly worth playing if you have a few friends to play co-op with.
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>>124640125
I didn't ask about the quality of the game.
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>>124639870
It is
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Can you recommend any books on modern aviation theme? Fiction/Non-fiction - doesn`t matter.
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>>124640943
How emulatable? The sound is completely fucked for me and its slow as fuck
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>>124641197
Is your computer a piece of shit? I emulated X perfectly at 3x resolution, I can't imagine the sequel being much different.
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>>124641432
Its pretty bad but I was able to run god eater just fine and that had alot going on.
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>>124641109
If you don't mind a nursing twist, Trauma Junkie is a great book. Flight nurses are fucking badasses.
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What if Mobius One is Blaze and Nagase's daughter from Ace Combat: Syndicate?
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>>124642923
What if Yellow 13 is actually your brother?
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>>124643287
What if Nemo is an AI?
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I've never played 6 so I can't verify myself but is it true Galm 1 is mentioned in one line of enemy radio chatter?
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>>124643371
yep

"Galm One shoot down the enemy ace and your reward will be multiplied 10 times"

https://youtu.be/cjplnNOu5_4?t=11
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>>124631163
>>124631660
Lanner is literally best girl.
><<No man can touch me in the skies!>>
><<Garuda Team, you're the best!>>
10/10 would waifu.
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>>124625578
X-2 has the Valorac
3 has pretty much every plane from its roster
5 has nothing but it did make the FALKEN playable rather than enemy-only.

Arkbird, Kottos, Gyges, Aigion, XB-01 and that one Espada Squadron was escorting are planes too, they're just very large and enemy only
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>>124644287
>and that one Espada Squadron was escorting are planes too
But anon that IS the XB-01.... The "Hresvelgr" or something like that.
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>>124644698
>>124644287
I could swear it was just XB-0, without the 1 ...
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>>124645000
That's because the XB-01 doesn't exist, only the XB-0, which Espada escorted
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>1500 MR alt account
>B7R 4 P/0 bots
>C rank
>Avalon 4 P/0 bots
>C rank
>WBA 4 P/0 bots
>C rank

>Create room 4 P/4 bots
>wait 30 minutes for it to fill
>S rank

WHO WOULD'VE FUCKING THOUGHT
To all you stupid low MR retards creating non-challenge rooms with 0 bots, suck my fucking cock you stupid pieces of shit. JUST ADD MOTHERFUCKING BOTS. YOU STAND TO LOSE NOTHING AND GAIN EVERYTHING.
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So let me make sure

Osea = USA
Yuktobania = USSR/Russia
Belka = Germany

Usea?
Erusea?
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Holy shit, I just realized.
This new Ace Combat won't have one simple tunnel for the final level, no it won't.
We will actually go through the orbital elevator either up or down.
I'm kinda hyped right now.
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>>124647023
Usea/ISAF = NATO
Erusea = Facist Italy/France
Emmeria = Western Europe
Estovakia = Combloc
Aurelia = Australia
Bad guy nation from X = Spain/Mexico

>>124647424
Down the elevator into a Geofront. Calling it now.
Final battle in a massive underground cavern against a rival ace or something. I'm also banking on this game not having controllable wingmen.
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>>124647424
>Fly up orbital elevator in 2nd to last level
>Final level takes place in space
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>>124647023
I am, and always have been, 100% sure Erusea's language is french, but in some aspect that does not related to french history. Just look at the freaking names
>Jean Louis Flaubert
>Mihael
>Gene ( I guess he never got a grip after all )
And then there is that Arch of Triumph full of erusean flags, but that was in San Salvacion.
And so on. I don't know why no one draws this parallel, and why Project Aces doesn't explore the idea of them being France more. Oh, and for some reason Farbanti is pretty much re-arranged Washington.
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>>124647550
>ace combat molemen
>>
spAce Combat
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>>124647825
>Farbanti
><<Johnson Memorial Bridge, heading 010>>
><<Johnson Memorial Bridge>>
><<Johnson Memorial>>
><<Johnson>>

>>124647934
Ace Combat 7: Antmen
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>>124647424
You're picture is missing V2 and the Gründer logo, here, have this. I think it's smaller though, sorry.
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>>124647550
>Leasath is Spain
Have you forgot about sapin?
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>!SORTIE ORDER!
>Excalibur
>The host has closed the room

Why
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>>124647550
Spain would be Sapin though. And Aurelia is just California I guess, seeing how they have the Golden King and the Golden Gate Bridge.
And then guys from X are all South Americans, I'm betting that Leasath is some commie shithole like Venezuela.
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>>124573116
>wtg ever dogfighting
>implying they dont just fucking ram their planes in the ass because they dont bother aiming shit
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>>124647550
Leasath is Argentina.
Aurelia is Los Malvinas.
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>>124647424
>AC7 will never have 5+ branching paths involving wildly different end-points such as laser planes in space, an massive underground NERV with a collapsing roof, or blowing up a world-ending meteor and the fragments with an experimental weapon
Fuck increased development costs.
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>>124648234
>Diego Navarro
Some sort of devious Latin American BUILD WALL guy then, I suppose. Totally forgot about Sapin.
I'm just convinced that Aurelia is Australia because of the southern hemisphere shit. It also bring me joy to imagine a shitton of IRL shitposting Australians bantering everything that moves while flying multi-million dollar jets.

>>124648454
I think you mixed up Aurelia and Emmeria. Ammeria is just Western Europe. King's Bridge could easily be the be the one Lisbon has.

>>124648540
>Aurelia is the Falklands
Fixed that for you.
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>>124648540
>Malvinas
It's the Falklands Islands you third-world scum
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>>124648540
>Malvinas
Wanna hear an Argie joke? Belgrano
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>>124648621
>UE4
They can do it
>>
>check out new AC7 screens
>Sukhoi with Erusian emblem, saw that in the trailer
>but there's also an F/A-18 with USS Theodore Roosevelt on the side
what the fuck
did I miss something
I thought we were in Strangereal
It's gotta be a skin, r-right guys?
>>
>>124649329
>Ace Combat 7: The Final Countdown
>>
http://www.dualshockers.com/2015/12/07/ps4-exclusive-ace-combat-7-gets-key-art-promises-photorealistic-visuals-and-immersive-storyline/

>photorealistic visuals confirmed

hyped
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>>124649329
Hue hue hue.

Hope you're ready for the old "worlds collide" plotline.
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>>124649329
Realstrange and Strangereal are going to merge through weird physics

Your objective is to stop it.
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>>124649667
How is this going to even run at a decent framerate?
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>>124649667
I've been refreshing pages and opening up new links in hopes of AC7 news. I'm more than hyped

>>124650527
If Bamco can somehow get the game well optimized on PC around 4k, I'd be willing to build a PC just for that
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>>124650527
Why would it not?
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>>124649329
It's an unfinished skin. Use photos as reference textures, make bumpmaps, then change the RL parts to strangereal.
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>>124645000
>>124645396
ya'll are thinking of the XB-10
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>>124649667
>a multitude of futuristic aircraft to fly
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
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>>124650823
I never played AC2 remake, is that in the remake as well?
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>>124651015
i'm pretty sure it is
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>>124650823
Ah, so that existed then
Thanks
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>>124650527
If the trailer is actually from the gameplay engine it should be running at 60FPS
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>>124650636
It's a PS4 exclusive.
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>>124649329
more like Theodore Rusevelt
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>>124650636
>PC
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>>124650527
the last AC looked good in 256 mb of ram
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>>124650527
Metal things are much, much easier to make pretty than people or vegetation, you need far less polygons and in the case of planes sometimes you won't even need a real skeleton, it's just a rigid body with a few moving parts
As such there's not a whole lot to render, which means you can make the stuff you ARE rendering look absurdly pretty, especially in a game like Ace Combat where you'll probably only need high-res textures for the player aircraft
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>>124651831
The PS3 has 512 of ram
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>>124651337
There hasn't been any confirmation yet. We know it's going to be on the PS4 with VR support but they never mentioned it'll be an exclusive title.
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>>124651971
And you can skimp on details on ground objects too.
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>>124651971
>>124652109
more to this point about ground objects
Sins of a Solar Empire did something pretty clever where when you started zooming out a ship would turn from a 3D model, to a 2D sprite and then to a single-color icon which really saved on processing power and let you have hundreds of ships on-screen at once without much of a performance impact
you could easily do something like that with ground units or other planes, make it just a tiny dot at huge distances, have it become a 2D sprite at long distances and only turn into a model once it's close enough to get a good look at it
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>>124652003
Site only lists PS4
Trailer only lists PS4
All mainline ACs have all been console exclusives
Boyes said it was "exclusive to PlayStation VR", which was later corrected to being PS4 exclusive.
There no reason to believe it will be coming to PC.
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Anyone here played Dogfighter? I bought it a few months ago before I found out that Ace Combat exists but there were literally 0 people online when I tried it out.
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>>124652496
That's called LOD
I was really hoping for okay ground details in AC7 but looking at the screenshots, well..
At least the planes should have the right scale this time, right?
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>>124650527
It's UE4
It will always be 60fps no matter what.
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>>124652721
Looks terrible.
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>>124651015
>>124651054
I played it, and that's a positive, but it's not anything major.
There are 3 of them as TGTs over Snider's Top ( Somewhere near the White Valley, you know, where Breaking Arrows take place ) in the end of operation Belíssima. THEY'RE A PAIN TO SHOOT DOWN GOD FUCKING DAMNIT. You'd be amazed by how many missions were ruined because I kept crashing into the fuckers.
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>>124653036
>Belíssima

irmão?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OH5e6fWjgU
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>>124653176
Are you implying I'm a dirty HUE ?
E aí irmão, ainda tá vivo ? E valeu, cara, nos veremos de novo.
Alguma coise sobre Ace Combat em português me deixa excitado.
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>>124653441
I had a feeling AC was at least slightly popular among us hues, even though I've never met anyone in real life that liked it.

Not one for dubs myself but that does kinda sound good if you get the right person to dub it.
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>>124595831
He sounded black, they're always overexcited, still hilarious.
>>
<<Let the victor... be justice.>>
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>>124653607
Well, when I got into the series, many of the links in Youtube and Google would lead into Ace Combat BR's facebook page and channel, plus Projeto Electrosphere, so I was sure it was popular here. Unfortunatly, never found another Ace IRL.
Also, as much as I don't like dubbed movies, I love the voice acting in regionally produced movies. Thing is we'd need a lusophone that looks exactly like Pixy to pull this off. His name would be Lazaro "Fadinha" Falcão.
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>>124654028
>Lazaro "Fadinha" Falcão.
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I don't normally come to this general but I just wanted to say I was so fucking happy when this announcement happened at PSX. I fucking broke down from the emotion.

Fucking hell, guys. A proper AC with VR on PS4, I can't fucking wait.
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>>124654197
I'm usualy not that autismo but I chuckled at my own joke
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>>124654228
I'm seriously buying PSVR just for it.
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>>124653880
<<Preparations are complete, ready for battle. All aircraft, follow Mobius 1>>

[Agnus Dei]
>>
For anyone who cares, I'll be resuming the Ace Combat Zero: The Belkan War stream at approximately 6pm.

I look forward to seeing anyone who cares to join me for this on the 11th.

In the meantime, I may do streamed/supplied hosting, but no promises

Laters Aces.
>>
>fortress intolerance

who NAMES this shit
>>
Does the Alect tournament start tonight?
>>
>>124654536
<<Message incoming from Allied HQ, 40% of allied forces are already lost>>
<<There's too many of them, we can't handle them all!>>
<<Where are the reinforcements ?!>>
.
.
.
<<Time to dive into the fireworks1>>
[Mayhem]
>>
>get Rena's flanker
>ohboyohboy
>forget how level 1 planes feel after running my level 17 chihaya

well that was a wake-up call
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>>124654678
>6 PM

It's already 9 PM. And what's happening on the 11th?
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>>124654828
><<And, Mobius 1... An end to the war would make a nice birthday gift as well.>>
SkyEye confirmed best girl.

>tfw no EagleEye from the old AC4 trailer.
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>>124654801
I thought it started tomorrah.

>>124655119
The first special plane I ever got other than the stupid Mirage White Tiger was the MTD Stripes and even at level 1, that handles better than any other plane that I own, including a level 7 F-20, level 5 Hornet, and level F-14D.

Your level 17 plane must handle like a feather if a special plane feels sluggish to you.
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>>124655385
<<Mission acomplished Cipher, let's go home>>
<<We wouldn't want to keep anyone waiting for 'ya>>
No, ACZ's EagleEye is best waifu AWACS.
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>>124655613
no it moved fine, I'm mostly talking about the missile speed, homing and lock-on range.
>>
<<I figured you'd say that. This is gonna cost you extra>>
>>
>>124655669
><<Heroes really do exist. We've just seen one, and now he's coming home.>>
Fuckin' I'll fight you m8. SkyEye has your back at all times, even during a heavy meteor shower. I bet he'd even gaze at the stars with you on a totally heteroerotic bro date.
>>
w-what about Oka Nieba
>>
>>124656093
>w-what about Oka Nieba
Filthy Yuke scum. Not fit to lick my boots.
>>
>>124656093
He'd be great as a lead vocalist
>>
>>124639267
What
There were at least two good emulators around, what's new?
>>
Sorry,nothing to sell.
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>>124655613
>other than the stupid Mirage White Tiger
Holy fuck I really AM the only person who doesn't have it, and I've been here since the Block1 special unlock 20-sorties challenge.
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>>124656041
<<Charlie 1 here, that pilot that flew in, is it alright ?>>
<<Yes, we've got Mobius One on radar!>>
<<So did we win the war ?>>
<<I don't know, history determines the winner>>
Okay, maybe he is a real bro, but he doesn't even know if you're the winner of the war, even though the reality is clear.
>>124656093
<<La la la la, listen to our beautiful voices!>>
He sounds like a great buddy to cuddle during the rain, no homo totally homo.
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>>124656460
Doesn't matter if you're the winner, since nations and politics are so fluid. What matters is that you're a hero who saved his people.
Also, Bravo 1 is second best grill.
<<Altman use your hand grenades!>>
>>
>mission where you have to fly a boeing through a ravine where you're being shot at
Awful design. This is just pure garbage.
>>
>>124656876
>Not taking this moment to do rolls and shit in a 747
C'mon dude.
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>>124656396
if you didn't pick it up out of notifications during that time, you won't be able to get it.. only newer players can get it as a drop.
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>>124656869
The radio chatter from Megalith is one of the best of the series in my opinion, I hope we get another infiltration unit to listen to.
<<Damn, they've got a flamethrower>>
Also, the one line after you destroy the second generator, I know he's not even a character but it always hits me in the feels.
<<Leave him, he's dead!>>
Ii wonder if he was asking a comrade to stop shooting at an erusean because he was already dead, or if they lost one of their own. Still makes me sad regardless of sides.
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>>124655385
I don't know, the way SkyEye screamed for Shamrock by his first name in AC6 made my kokoro go dokidoki.
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>>124657394
GhostEye.

SkyEye is 04.
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>>124657394
whoops meant to say Ghost Eye
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>>124657036
This shit is 100 percent garbage. It maneuvers like two mig 31s strapped together and you can't avoid the fucking airmines no matter what and there is no real way to dodge missiles from those faggots in the last stretch. how do you even do this
>>
>>124657598
Acquire aptitude
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>>124656876
it's simple you git gud
>>
>>124657314
<<Tango 2 block off the elevator!>>
<<Shoot! Shoot! Over by the stairs!>>
><<Leave him, he's dead!>>
I like to think it's related to that particular team pulling out to another position, where one of the SF members is trying to either tend or drag out a fallen comrade. Shit's pretty heavy- the infiltration unit had probably one of the hardest tasks of that operation.

>>124657394
><<All planes, get in there and save him!>>
I... Did Ghost Eye want me to just fly on over to the ice and pick up Shamrock?
>>
>>124656297
I didn't realise that the absolute shitshow that is ePSXe has been completely superseded by XEBRA, which is insanely accurate by comparison. It blows my mind to boot up a game and have everything just work, and look the same as the actual console.
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>>124658029
I've never been more attached to characters you never meet than the infiltration team in Megalith. I really felt the urge to get that shit down quickly before they all died.
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>>124658348
>you'll never throw grenades with Altman
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>>124657394
You know, no one cares about WSO. Marcus isn't the only one operating that F-15E
>>
Why do these threads suddenly have more than 2 posts per 24 hours? Did the announcement really bring in a ton of new people?
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>>124658029
<<Have they blown that generator yet ?>>
<<We can't hold off any longer, we're pulling back>>
<<No don't give up yet, our air support will do something>>
Shit must've been intense.
I wouldn't mind invading Megalith in ARMA, Ace of Duty : Usean Warfare 1, or an FPS of sort. In fact, I think Ace Combat 04 could make into a pretty good FPS, it just seems so appropriate.
After all, it's got so many ground missions ( Siege of Farbanti, Liberation of San Salvacio, possibly Liberation of Los Canas, even though we never got to see that ). Then you have Whiskey Corridor, shit's pretty much Desert Storm but in AC.
>>
Crux is the cutest support.

<<That was a little too risky, sir.>>
<<It made me nervous just watching you.>>
<<It wouldn't feel like a victory if you weren't there to celebrate it with us, sir.>>
>>
>>124658659
<<Sir, uh, I mean, Gryphus One>>
I take back all I said about EagleEye, he's great and all but Crux is the ultimate waifu.
>>
>>124658618
>implying you could possibly turn down a collaborative ACxCoD combined arms clusterfuck crosover vidya where you're pilot and ground soldier, occasionally simultaneously

>implying they wouldn't have to invent SUPER STRANGEREAL to contain the amount of ridiculous bullshit that'd ensue
>>
>>124658618
All of those operators have so much faith in their air support. If I don't hurry up and help them I'd feel like I was letting them down.
I'm imagining a pitched CQB in tight corridors- the lightly armed SF unit lightly armed with SMGs against fanatical Erusean officers armed with machine guns and flamethrowers; and their hasty retreat once the main silo door is opened up.

I don't know what it is about Ace Combat, but the writing and chatter makes all the support units so endearing.
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>>124658526
>Shamrock starts crying to Talisman about how his family is dead
>guy in the back seat just sitting there silently feeling super awkward
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>>124659035
I've been dreaming about a super combined arms video game ever since I was a kid.
Imagine a game that manages to do both shooting, driving and flying equally as well, without cramped as fuck maps.
ARMA is the closest, but it feels hella clumsy.
>>
>>124659035
Nah, Strangereal's ground wars are already insane enough.
>Tfw you get to see Lt.Baelz face during the landing of Operation Bunkershot, a la D Day but with 21st century weapons
>Tfw you prevent his death
>Tfw your name is Collins
Also I imagine Istas Fortress would be GOAT to invade. We never saw any allied ground units in that mission even though it's heavily implied you're supporting a ground offensive.
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>>124659354
The problem is that you wind up with incredibly one sided engagements when you pit ground forces against air support. There's no way to do it in a satisfactory way.
>>
>>124659435
>Playing as a Submariner, waiting in the sunken ruins of Farbanti
Yes please.
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>>124658618
Nah fuck that, it would be hell on the ground with all the superweapons. Can't escape space lasers and cruise missiles on foot.
>>
>>124659435
The Lt from infinity died in override (the one with the aigaion in tokyo) though.
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>>124659493
>ground forces fall back
>ground erupts
>suddenly the floor is AA guns

>sky status: shattered
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>>124659118
This, just like that <<Leave him, he's dead!>>, I always feel like they're my true comrades even though I'm on air and they're on ground.
I can only imagine what the later stages of the mission were like.
>Holding position near the Sub-Control Room, dozens of wounded and dead on the floor
>*BAM*
>Blackout hits, those red auxiliary lights turn on
>Burst doors open
>Have to continue holding the position down until Mobius One destroys the nuke
>Instead he's dicking around, shooting at other missiles that will self destruct anyways and shooting down an Ace at the other end of the map
And they still don't sound disappointed.
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>>124659493
MANPAD's fo days
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>>124659606
I was talking about AC04 though, and just in case they retcon Baelz's death. Because let's face it, they don't tell you he's dead, but the fact that he's quoted in AC5 and that Collins substitutes him heavily hints at it.
I just headcannon it as "he's just wounded lol' though.
I'm wondering now, did Collins participate in any of the other ground offensives ?
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>>124660170
>they don't tell you he's dead
Yes they do, twice actually. Once on the 5th mission once on the 8th mission.
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>>124660384
Dude, he doesn't even appear until later on in the game, how could he be dead ?
Mission 8 is Shattered Skies I think, and while it would be pretty cool if he died at that mission and continued to lead the landing forces as a ghost in Bunker Shot, I don't think even Ace Combat is that silly.
>>
>>124660384
>>124660170
>>124660812
Baelz only shows up once during AC04 at Mission 9, dies in that mission and then collins takes over in the same mission after he dies.
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>>124662010
Well, to be honest, Collins only appears at the very end. Not only that, but he only introduces himself after that long radio silence after HQ asked for Baelz, meaning that the radio phone might've just been vacant, or he was wounded and being treated at the moment.
Stop using that logic stuff, I WANT TO BELIEVE
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>>124662010
>>124662409
I'm pretty sure he's dead. Even the radio operator is disappointed.
<<O-oh, uh, good job guys.>>
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>>124663053
Was he that disappointed ? I don't remember that.
Guess I'll have to replay that mission.
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>>124663175
Compared to how smug he was during the initial stages of the mission, yeah. Remember, if it weren't for Mobius 1, the ground invasion would never have worked.

Also, there needs to be more missions with huge furballs like Shattered Skies and Mayhem. Ground pounding missions put me to sleep, but the UAV fight in 6 did as well.
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I kinda want the new fictional aircraft (like the Nosfu and Morgan) to be extremely cute and tiny, with the joke being nanomachines and nanoballistics.
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>>124664158
>N-NOTICE ME FENRIR-SENPAI
>Fox 2 Fox 2!
I think I would die.
>>
>HEY KID YOU LIKE THIS SONG
>WHY ARE WE FIGHTING THIS WAR UGHHHHH
>HAVE I TOLD YOU ABOUT MY BROTHER IN THE ARMY I REALLY LOOK UP TO HIM

why this
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>>124664115
Well, too bad buddy, because one of this game's superweapons is confirmed to be a fuckhuge UAV launcher.
Now that you think about it, where did all those Malebolges come from anyways ? Were there launchers around Gracemeria ?
>>
>>124664505
Ace Combat 5's squad was kind of lame
What made it worse is that Nagase's English VA is also Aigis' from Persona 3.
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>>124664505
>I FORGET DO YOU EVEN LIKE ROCK AND ROLL?
>>
>>124664582
Nah, he had like 50 launchers on the CFA-44.
>Revealing the game's superweapon in the teaser
Yeah nah, Bamco ain't that retarded.
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>>124664505
nagase more like nag-ase amirite
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>>124664158
That's pretty much the Delphinus, although I may be wrong.
I used to underestimate the size of the FALKEN, until you got to see the canopy open in 5 inside the hangar, with just a tiny pilot inside.
I don't know, does anyone know how big the Delphinus is ?
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>>124664909
More like Nag-ASS-e
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>>124664909
Nagase is cute ... CUTE
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>>124664740
Dude, I don't think Pasternak could have all of those hanging on his freaking wing. Only other option is he ordered all of Strigon to launch those before RTB.
Also, by Superweapon I mean a mid game one. Don't forget, Stonehenge is a Superweapon too.
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I found this while searching for ace combat chatter. It's delicious and the uploader has a few more videos for other games.
SkyEye has such a soothing smooth voice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6eOs1SSQyk
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>>124665025
Wiki says the R-101 Delphinus is 12.6m wide and 20.48m long.
For comparison's sake, the F-15C is 13.0m wide and 19.4m long, according to wikipedia.
So, no.
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Why is ACZ's teaser so much better than AC7's?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FXJ4bGw1xk
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Where should I read the whole history of Strangereal? If anything, more focused on 0,4, and 5
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>>124665491
I've been watching creepy shit all night and this kinda freaked me out a little for some reason.
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>>124665692
How? The chatter is kind of soothing itself.
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>Mobius 18
So did all of the squadrons like Viper, Halo, Omega and the like just get rolled into Mobius?
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>>124664627
I kinda wonder how did any of the Wardog Squadron wingman become Aces. They all have the personalities of liberal arts students, not a fighter pilot.

Hell, this song pretty much describes all Ace Combat wingman except Pixy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyA1almrnro
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>>124665857
Just weird distorted audio I guess.
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>>124665994
Only the best pilots got rolled in.
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>>124665495
Here's a picture to back that up, since we all know the wiki isn't very reliable.
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>>124665646
Play the game or go Wiki surfing.
I don't know where to find Aces at War anywhere, so I just kinda stopped believing it exists.
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>>124666042
Especially Nagase.
>I fly for peace!
>lol jk signed up for the Air Force
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>>124664627
>Aigis
> Bad
Pick one fag, you talking shit about best waifu ?
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>>124666097
The best we'll have is PDFs but that's not really the real deal. Hell of a collectors item though. Shame I can't read moonrunes
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>>124665097
I'd seen that pic before but I'd never noticed the thong until now.
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>>124666153
Oh shit you're right. Way to go Bamco.

Well at least they didn't give her DDD tits covered only with pasties over the nipples and make her the focal point of the game.
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>>124666340
>Not Yukari

Keep trying m8
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I'm bored. Is AC7 out yet?
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>>124666405
Even if it's just a PDF with pretty pictures I'd already be happy. Got a link to that ?
Also
> Tfw they release Aces at War 2
.
.
.
NEVER EVER
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>>124666720
You can find the entire thing on sadpanda.
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>>124666654
>Mommy issues bogaloo
I used to think Yukari was best waifu too, that is, until Aigis appeared. Only reason I'd rather waifu Yukari if MC wasn't a fucking statue is because she's a human with a real bagine.
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>>124666795
For real ?
Damn, and here's me thinking that was only useful for hentai and rare scans.
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Maybe I'm just forgetting wrong, but I thought there was a way to swap R1/L1 and R2/L2 in AC04???

Can you do it in 5 or 0?
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I'm replaying 04, 5 and zero, and I thought you could swap R1/L1 and R2/L2 but you can't in 4.

Can you in 5 or Zero? I don't remember using the bumpers for throttle.
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>>124667108
>>124667494

Well i look fucking stupid.
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>>124667107
http://exhentai.org/g/626489/52f6c1f9ce/
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> Inna B7R
> emergency mission is Shadow squadron
> get in a turn with the lead plane so close I could reach out of the cockpit and start shooting with a pistol
> he levels off
> Get Cobra'd really hard right as I go to level right be hind him and go for guns
> missile warning
> get hit before I have time to evade
> mfw
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Well guys, I'm wondering, who is handsomest Ace Combat and why is it Pixy?
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>>124668084
I don't suppose that's the guy who played Pixy in the interviews, is it?
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>>124668234
You bet your tight boipussy it is.
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>>124668437
he looks vaguely like Cedric from Harry Potter
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>>124668084
Who else is there?
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>>124665507
Cus PA had funding, Bamco's faith, a proven engine, and was more than halfway done with ACZ before they released the trailer.

AC7's trailer is nothing but a proof of concept, like the first Cyberpunk 2077, SW: Battlefront, or Borderlands 1 trailers. Everything but 3d assets are just placeholders, there's no release date, ETA, or even a "coming soon" at the end, meaning the game just got into development.

Also Bamco is disinterested in Ace Combat. I remember a facebook post by Kono basically saying that the only reason he keeps asking Bamco for more chances with the series is because of the (small) fanbase. This series was supposed to die at Assault Horizon, an employee said in an interview that AH needed to break 1.5 million sales or the series would be abandoned; it's probably the reason why they ported it to PC. So they might have had to cut back on costs for a cinematic trailer, and just let it ride on reveal hype alone.
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>>124671498
They don't promote this shit at all.

I wrote this in a thread about one or two weeks ago but I had no idea that this series even existed until a few months ago and I've been playing video games for about 30 years. One day I was looking up Shin's F-20 and I got led to the Ace Combat wiki, at which point I just assumed it was an amateur hobbyist project like Mugen.

Then I found out that ACI, downloaded it, and realized that it's everything that I ever wanted in a game. Prior to this, I was considering learning 3D modeling so that I could make my own flight combat game. I also had a few mockups and things planned too.

Now here I am a few months later, playing ACI like mad, even just spending hours in test flight trying out different planes like I'm a little kid again. If someone like me can go for nearly 30 years without knowing about this series even though it's exactly what I've been looking for ever since I first played Area 88 on the SNES, imagine all the casual players and regular chumps that they're missing out on who would actually still enjoy this series.
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>>124671498
the series just needs better marketing, need to make jet fighter cool again for the average player
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>>124672695
they tried to make it appeal to the casuals with assault horizon.
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>>124665507
@1:10 is that a rearrangement of Unsung War? I recognize those chords
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>>124671498
>Also Bamco is disinterested in Ace Combat. I remember a facebook post by Kono basically saying that the only reason he keeps asking Bamco for more chances with the series is because of the (small) fanbase.
I remember an interview of Kono where AC:I only happened because he ran around to different departments to find people to help him with the project.
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>>124673713
When will Bamco realize that Ace Combat's fanbase is incredibly dense and is almost a guaranteed sell? The only other time I was so fucking hype was when Guts got off the boat. I went up and down the house pelvic thrusting and dick grabbing for a good thirty minutes because I was so excited.
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>>124674119
If it's super dense and a guaranteed sell then why did 0 and 6 sell like shit?
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>>124673713
>>124672587
>>124671498
Let's just hope that kono doesn't fuck AC7 up then, otherwise it'll TRULY be the end for Ace Combat.
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>>124674119
>When will Bamco realize that Ace Combat's fanbase is incredibly dense and is almost a guaranteed sell?
They probably realized it after they saw how much goys were spending on infinity
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>>124674310
because 6 was an Xbox exclusive for a game series that had been mostly for the Playstation
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>>124674310
>Zero
Because Zero came out at the end of the PS2's life cycle.

>6
360 exclusive didn't help.
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Dear Bamco, I would appreciate the following merch as side business (ie. sold on lalabit) from AC7:
- Tapestries/Posters for each title (Specially Zero)
- Complete soundtrack collection (all games). There was so much good stuff that wasn't on Infinity Series Best.
- Re-print of Aces at War
- Re-print of A blue dove for the princess physical version

Anyone else think of anything good?
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>>124674580
Dakimakura of all the series AWACS.
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>>124674461
>>124674502
So it's a guaranteed sell except when it's not.
I wonder what your excuse will be if AC7 sells badly.
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>>124674879
two out of how many games?
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>>124674580
A recording of every AWACS guys hanging out with each other and doing cute things for one day. Optional 5 minutes of bickering about who has the better fighter pilot.
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>>124674879
Just because the fanbase is dense doesn't mean it'll sell well in relation to its budget.
They need to play the product development game. What is their target market?

If they make AC7 for people like us, they will have gotten that entire market segment, which isn't very many people in terms of quantity. It's a low risk, low reward scenario.

Conversely, if they try to pander to other gaming segments and attempt to penetrate that market, they run a high risk operation, and we run into the Assault Horizon case.

However, in this case, it's a bit different. I'm sure that many of us will buy the game out of brand loyalty and because of it being an Ace Combat title; this would be true even if it turns out to be AH-tier shit that also drags in a little bit of other markets.


Take a look at Phantom Pain's multiplayer. There were so many normies on MGO3 because of the AAA title hype. These are people who aren't normally MGS fans but bought the game because it looked cool. The same may be true of AC7.

We're a very dedicated fanbase, but there simply isn't that many of us. I consider it a godsend that we're even getting AC7 in the first place.
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>AC7 final level
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>>124675291
I sure love me some meteor shooting
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>>124672825
no not through gameplay, Ace Combat prior to AH is about as a fighter simulator as CoD is to a "combat simulator", the gameplay is fairly simple and straight forward.

I'm talking about making the general public be in love with fighter jets and high speed air combat again, like what top gun did.
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>>124675374
Me too.
I really hope there's some type of meteor shower in 7, especially now with that sexy engine.
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>>124675014
Yeah, yeah, there were a bunch of games that did sell well. The problem is they all came out over a decade ago. You can't really blame Namco for not being confident about the series, given that all the recent entries have failed. Except maybe ACI. Kinda hard to judge how ACI is doing.
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>>124675542
Didn't AH actually sell pretty well?
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>>124675425
We need Tom Cruise to make Top Gun 2.
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>>124672695
When people think jet fighter games, they think flight sim, which is an immediate red flag. Watch the beginning of Angry Joes ACAH review (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foI1baadkvk) and you'll see exactly what an average person wants in a jet fighter game.

Besides, people are more hyped for space flight sims like Star Citizen anyway. Why fly fighter jets around boring skies and landscapes, when you can do the same shit in outer space with features like planetary exploration, or space physics, or a deep crafted lore?

Average people cared about Ace Combat in the ps2 days, when AC4 and 5 were very popular, because it kept to it's roots and didn't try to pander to general audiences.

AC6 flopped because it abandoned it's playerbase and popularity by moving to the X360, and alienated it's new American-centric audience with the cheesy, eastern-centric story and marketing. Not to mention no one in Japan was interested in Xbox. Then ACAH flopped because of bad word of mouth, awful marketing (it liked being compared to call of duty), and cus it was a piece of shit game.

Average players aren't going to buy a game that got mediocre reviews, terrible fan comments,and looks generic as fuck. They'd rather get something that is unique, that stands out, with good reviews and good word of mouth. Which is exactly what the AC4, 5, and Zero were.
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>>124675721
Didn't you know Top Gun 2 is actually a thing?
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>>124674310
6 came out on a near dead on arrival console in japan. The 360 had almost nothing for it going into japan besides dead or alive, Idolm@ster and Blue dragon.

If you want an idea of how bad the Xbox one is doing in japan the PS3, Vita, and Wii outsold the Xbox one last week.
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>>124675584
Not sure. It can't have done that well, though, or they would have made AH 2.
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>>124675810
Just like how a Hollywood Yukikaze adaptation is a thing, right?
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>>124674796
I'll take the crux one then.
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>>124676112
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1745960/
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>>124674580
I hate to so say this but I think it falls to the fans to make some of these merch, like poster, pins, badges, etc. and selling them at conventions and promote the franchise to other people.

>but it shouldn't be our jobs to do that that should be bamco's
you're right it should be but these days they're not going to spend marketing money on a franchise that has a "small but dedicated fanbase"., the less they care about the franchise the worse the quality of the game will be
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>>124674796
I get one of Eagle Eye or Snake Pit (I know he's technically ESM and not AWACS, but dammit it still counts in my book).
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>>124675794
>alienated it's new American-centric audience with the cheesy, eastern-centric story
You getting 5 and 6 confused? 6's story is just kinda generic. 5 is the ridiculous one with the squad of brave heroes fighting evil with huge amounts of ridiculous plot twists and shit. I mean, Grimm is literally a teenager who gets in a jet and turns out to be one of the best pilots ever (I know he's just as unimpressive as the rest of the AI, but in story he's meant to be great). If that isn't the most anime shit ever I don't know what is.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZfoHtJSfUE

>that ISAF solo
>Kobayashi and the guitar guy straight up smiling at each other on the ZERO chorus build up
>mfw

Can't believe I never found this until now.
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>>124677385
ZERO was great but Journey Home fucking blew it out of the park, when it started up I just lost it.
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I didn't realize that the emblem themes from this tourney were so good. Had I known, I would've actually tried to place. One of the themes was that sick song from AC3 that some guy posted a few threads ago. I would cream myself hearing this at the end of an Infinity match.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NZRXCioU6E
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>>124677385
I still really want the piano sheet music for ZERO damn it.
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>>124676610
5's story is pretty eastern sure, but it didn't really show it until after the Journey Home, or until after Edge starts with her Blue Dove obsession. Other than that it was pretty region neutral, it immersed the player with a group of interesting squadron members and a great, well-paced story. Besides, the ps2 audience could look past some of the cheesy dialogue and eastern influences and appreciate the story as a whole, like they did with MGS and Silent Hill.

Compare that of AC6, which is completely corny, bad translations (the lips don't sync in cutscenes), forced emotional moments at every cutscene and story building moment, "dance with the angels", and pretty much a generic anime plotline that doesn't involve the player at all. All this for a Halo and Gears of War audience to consume.
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>>124678043
sounds like you need to dance with the angels, mister.
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>>124678043
I'll be honest with you, AC6 suffered from the early-360 model syndrome. I actually skipped all of the cutscenes because the parts with the dudes in planes was more interesting than the lady and her daughter. If you eliminated her plotline and actually just kept it to Voychek's perspective and how Garuda changes the morale of his prisoners, then that would have been good enough- a background story focused on how the enemy sees things. But making fun of "TENSHI TO DANSU?" Sounds like you should go dance with an angel, mister.
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>>124678043
>>124678170
Why the hell was AC6 so tragic?

>the women's husband gets shot down

>shamrock's family dies
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>>124678043
5 is vastly cornier than 6 and has way more melodrama. 6 doesn't do shit like introducing characters just to kill them in a contrived way two missions later. 5 does. 6's story also made sense, even if it wasn't very interesting. 5's story is full of ridiculous twists and makes no sense if you think about it.
I understand if you don't like 6, but at least try to come up with criticisms that make sense. Complain about the lack of planes or something. Everyone likes complaining about that. I like complaining about it at least.
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So, the game is still in early development. Going to wait till it gets gameplay details/if it's fully exclusive before buying a PS4
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>>124678456
War is tragic.
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>>124678456
>Shamrock holy fuck you're annoying shut up, okay I'll eat your wife's fucking cooking and buy your fucking daughter some flowers.

>Shamrock: My whole family is dead. They died during the invasion. What kind of ace can't even protect his own family?

>Aw fuck.
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>>124677385
>Pixy's piano recital, grade 8
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>>124679179
Nah, it'd be more like
>Pixy's Guitar Recital
or something. Piano just doesn't seem to suit him, you know? plus, sapinish guitars.
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>Looking back at past events
>See the giant "shitload of emblems drop festival"
>painful reminder I never got the gryphus emblem
Why should I live
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Some news about AC7.

Apparently the "oh shit" guy from the psx audience said on leddit that he talked to the announcer of AC7, and that the new cloud and weather system would be an important gameplay feature.

Players could shake off enemies by flying into clouds and vice versa, and clouds would inhibit visibility like it did in the trailer.

Sauce: https://www.reddit.com/r/acecombat/comments/3vw2hd/hey_everyone_its_the_oh_shit_guy_again_i_have/

Might add a new layer to dogfighting.
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>>124563297
Which then got hijacked. Seriously though hiw did the Arkbird got hijacked i mean one point it was on your side then suddenly your shooting at it
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So an F-22 Mobius equipped with the Mobius emblem just MVP'd and the drop reward screen is playing "Stardust" instead of the regular BGM. Anyone else get this before?
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>>124680060
Someone boarded it through a supply shipment being sent to the arkbird that they hid in. Along with a fucktonne of explosives.
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>>124680049
So RADAR useless in Strangereal?
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>>124680223
Did they show this in a cutscene or something?
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>>124680560
Explained in one of the briefings in 5. Also through some radio chatter.
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>>124679316
>sapinish guitar
heh
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>>124680118
That's what's supposed to happen, Galm emblem plays Pixy's theme, garduda Emblem Plays AC6 Theme, Razgriz plays Cum Historia, etc.. some don't like Gryphus (unfortunately).

I hope the Alect squadron emblem plays Armada/Alect sound track. Best one one in the game.
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>>124680851
No, the MVP theme was "Victory", but I'm talking about when you are opening the boxes and doing research. It's "Stardust" instead of the regular BGM.
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>>124680851
>I hope the Alect squadron emblem plays Armada/Alect sound track. Best one one in the game.
Sorry to crush your dreams pal, usually they say if the emblem is going to play MVP music on the rewards list. The only thing the alect emblem has for it is black missile smoke, no MVP music.
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>>124680519
He only said visibility, I'm sure there will be missions with jammer aircraft hiding in clouds to fuck with you.
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>>124681587
>Jammers hidden in clouds
>During a giant furball
>It takes place after a ground attack mission
>Fucking 8492 part 2
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>>124680519
Well duh, that's why you can't even lock on a semi-active radar missile past 10km
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>>124683208
76.5k credits. Can't really complain, money's money.
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Hope there's some ground pounder love.
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Is anyone of you /aceg/ gonna play some ACI in next few hours? I had my hands filled with work during weekend. Couldn't even be here to enjoy the reveal with you. And that makes me sad, goddamnit.
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>>124683208
76k credits or tickets every single time. This game does not give me fuel.
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>>124685424
4 AM east coast son. Aces be sleeping.
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>>124685805
As always, living in slavistan surely helps in everything.
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>>124683889
>you will never pound his butt as he pounds the ground
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So everyone's calling the lighthouse a space elevator. What are the alternative theories?

I'm betting it's a giant laser cannon for shooting down alien invaders
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>>124686427
>a giant laser cannon
Excalibur 2: Laser boogaloo

On another note anyone got any speculations as to what the hell Belka's done this time around?
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So think the PS4 will have an AC7 bundle? because that's the only way I'm going to be buying one.
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>>124687676
Probably
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>>124687676
>Earth not capitalized in spite of it being a proper noun

>>124686427
>>124687053
the gray men went to space and encountered a militaristic alien species
lighthouse is a giant laser cannon meant for shooting down Belkan aliens
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>>124687842
I think he means "on earth" as in "on the ground."
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>Chopper goal horn isn't Blurry
>Charlie Fragger goal horn isn't Danger Zone
Who the fuck is in charge of this team
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Hey /aceg/ if mobius 1 is a girl, what does she look like and what will you do?
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>>124688261
It's just a rewrite anyway. In the Japanese version he says that ridiculous so many gentlemen in one place one instead.
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>>124688347
Kim Campbell. Anyone else is bullshit.
I would have a beer with her, hard.
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I did this up to mess with people hopefully but I just saw that AC7 was announced.

Dammit. One day it will come back to the PC...won't it?
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>>124688431
>I can't believe there are so many gentlemen in the same place at the same time.
Clumsy as fuck but also bro as fuck.
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>>124683208
>Tornado challenge
>Random map room
>It's b7R
"Fuck it"
>Scarface 1 teammate ends with 70k, my Tornado with 50k
>Their Antares F22 with 30k and regular Su-35 25k
>Gold box
>Tickets

I've still no clue on what the fuck was going on.
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>>124688959
Unreal 4 supposedly makes porting between systems easy. Also, one of the AC7 ads said something like, "PS4 owners get exclusive access to PSVR", implying they'll announce other systems later on.

Also, for your picture, make the AC title solid white, but not the OVR-G, it'll look more legit.
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>>124688969
It makes the conversation flow a lot better, too. In the Japanese one he says they're awesome and then finishes the conversation by saying half the population of Estovakia must be waiting for them, and it's like haha very funny. In the English one he opens by talking about how women must love them, and then finishes with the same line as the Japanese one. Bringing up women twice in the one cutscene just makes him sound obsessed.
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>>124688760
Why not a small girl? :^)
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>>124688347
Be a part of her maintenance crew
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PS4 hasn't got any killer app. Do you think AC7 gonna be the killer app for PS4 ? Just like PS3 got MGS4.
And I think AC7 should be PS4 exclusive as intended since AC has history of being PS exclusive and to please those who hates other consoles.
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>>124689272
I hope so, but I think Bandai is still butt-twisted over Assault Horizon.

How's this?
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>>124688347
Same as >>124689407 because you can't have a maintenance crew with just one person.
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>>124689472
That looks awesome dude!
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>>124688959
let us celebrate Ace Combat finally coming home to it's original platform.

I do hope "PC or death" people will get a port. It would suck if AH was the only game
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>>124689973
its*

fuck me
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>>124689315
Yeah, I thought the "half the female population is waiting for your return" was weird. Why only half? It's an oddly specific quantity. If what you're saying is true, then that sort of helps with the bro image Pasternak was painted with. Just your big bro looking out for you; keeping the big bullies away while you escape back to home.
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>>124689472
I've made an additional tweak; how is it looking still?
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>>124690182
>>124689472
I can't tell the difference.
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>>124690338
There's a bit of drop shadow behind the ACE COMBAT logo to try and improve the look of it slighty. Make it seem less like the logo was taken off of the internet.
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>>124674879
If it does sell bad, I'll blame the PS4 really. The PS4 itself sold like shit, compared to how many of us still have our PS3s. They should consider releasing on both platforms if they want to make fat dollars with this.
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>>124688760
If I recall correctly she's also the only pilot to ever fly and land the A-10 with purely mechanical controls after losing all hydraulics.
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>>124691643
>The PS4 itself sold like shit
>http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/25/9797964/ps4-sales-worldwide-30-million
nigga what? having it on both consoles and pc is definitely better for the game's exposure but saying the ps4 sold like shit is just not true
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>>124689456
>PS4 hasn't got any killer app.
Bloodborne? Might not appeal to some people but it's definitely a high profile exclusive.
>And I think AC7 should be PS4 exclusive as intended since AC has history of being PS exclusive and to please those who hates other consoles.
And you're retarded.
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>>124691928
"I don't have a reason for buying it yet. Dead game for dead console."
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>>124691928
>COMPARED to how many of us ...
Let's say, I have 60 million eggs in a basket. Then I have a billion in another basket. COMPARING to the second basket, the first one is tiny, but let's be honest, 60 million is a lot. Same thing goes for when they say the Gripen is a cheap plane. It's cheap, but you can't buy it, because it's cheap compared to multimillionaire flying machines.
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>>124689456
>PS4 hasn't got any killer app.
Bloodborne and Until Dawn are both fairly popular.
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>>124610942
That and dynamic campaigns. Voicing the shit wouldn't even be an issue as voice actors are really really fucking cheap. And dynamic campaigns plus the fact that the enemies would fight back would really make it so that the players has a huge impact on the shit's outcome.

But the other hand that would also exclude like 3/4ths of the playerbase. So back to IL-2 I go.

>>124624762
Actually only the cockroachistani and spanish version featured the Typhoon. The frogs had the Rafale, everyone else had the Tomcat.

Ace Combat 3 had the F-22 on the international version and the Flanker on the japanese one.
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>>124642681
Thanks, will definetely read it.
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What's the bump limit in /vg/ ?
I think it's about time we got out of this dead end thread.
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>>124692989
750
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>>124692647
>>124692647
so what are you saying? if AC7 doesn't sell well it's because they're it's not made for an old console that people are moving away from? your logic isn't wrong but it doesn't stop it from being stupid either.

Comparing the install base between a console that had a successful 9 year run with one that's only been around for 2 years is retarded
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>>124693057
I had a feeling you were gonna say that. I really did
ALL HANDS ABANDON SHIP
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>>124658316
XEBRA is trash. MEDNAFEN is godly and you don't even have the "no GUI" excuse since retroarch exists.
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>>124647023
>>124647550
>>124648387
Each AC nation is a mishmash of different western and easter blocks. You can't pinpoint and accurate real world equivalent on them save Osea, Yuktobania and Belka. ACS tier.
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>>124689456
>>124692258
>And I think AC7 should be PS4 exclusive as intended since AC has history of being PS exclusive and to please those who hates other consoles.
>And you're retarded
Now, now. I think the reason they made it PS4 exlcusive could be either budget-constraint or Sony agreement with Bamco to make AC7 a promotion material for PSVR and perhaps helped financing AC7 hence in return they made it PS4 exlcusive.
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>>124693559
Oh come on, tell me you can't pinpoit Leasath again.
The place is very clearly a despotist South American shithole, where the poor really look up to their president-general. And the one that fits the description the best is Venezuela.
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>>124693623
Tekken 7 is also PS4 exclusive and has VR support as well.

I'm thinking the VR has a lot to do with their decision.
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>>124693664
>people looking up to their leader in Venezuela
>just had elections where opposition party got a crushing victory
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>>124693664
I'll concede you that one. But for example, look at Emmeria. At first glance it's 'murican as fuck but there are italian/spanish names all over the place.

Or how Usea is supposed to be the EU stand in but misspelled Spain is a thing. Again: trying to pinpoint all of the AC fictional countries to just one real world equivalents is dumb. Also because the fanbase probably cares more about it than PA does.
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>>124693931
>just had
And there's you problem.
Was Leasath invented just now ? No, it was created in 2006, we're talking about a decade difference here.
And back then, in Venezuela, everyone was looking up to Chavez, until the motherfucker died that is.
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>>124688280
To be fair, /aceg/ will never score a goal anyway.

I'd love to hear CAN YOU TAKE IT ALL AWAY-EEEY after a goal though, it would be hilarious.
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>>124694025
Never said all could be pinpointed, which is why I said Emmeria might as well be just California since it's only possible to pinpoint their capital, which is very obviously San Fagcisco.
And then you have occasional discrepancies, such as France/Erusea having Washington as their capital.
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>>124693863
Tekken 7 ? VR support ?
Now that's something. Implying that Tekken 7 might has first-person view in it.

>I'm thinking the VR has a lot to do with their decision.
Yup. Promotional material. Just like Eve Valkyrie : best played with Oculus Rift or whatever VR devices it support for best experience.
Besides, porting PSVR compatibility to Oculus gonna be a huge obstacle to pass if they ever gonna port AC7 to PC.
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>>124665097
>the small scar

dem details man. It's sad to realize how the in-game model looks like one of those cheap 3d porn games characters

>>124665491
When did SkyEye give the lead to other squadrons (around 26 min)? Which mission was that?
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>>124694147
>it's only possible to pinpoint their capital
->>124694025
>At first glance it's 'murican as fuck but there are italian/spanish names all over the place.
Also the golden king definitely isn't a 'murican thing. Like half of the people in the Emmerian assault record have italian/french surnames.
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>>124694328
Well, I never played G and I'm basing this off what I've seen in a walkthrough of the thing. No idea about the Assault Records, except for Lorenz Riedel, but him I've read on the wiki.
I guess you're right.
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new thred where
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>>124694494
> G
I meant 6
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>>124689456
Seriously. Does anyone here think that consoles other than PS4 (e.g.: PC and XB1) don't deserve Ace Combat 7 ?
All this console fanboying bullshit really annoys me, although I grew up playing Ace Combat series on PS1 and PS2, the consoles the series used to be exclusive on, but really....
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>>124694925
>consoles other than PS4 (e.g.: PC
dude
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>>124694925
It should really be on PC just for the virtue of ripping assets, high resolution footage and possibly modding.
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>>124695028
>the virtue of ripping assets
I'm pretty sure that people have ripped assets off of console games for a really long while.
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>>124695162
Has anything been ripped from Infinity yet? Although PS4 has a much simpler structure.
Regardless, they'll be out a lot faster.
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>>124695205
What would people rip shit off of Ace Combat for?
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>>124695384
>models to use in other games
>audio
>cut content
What do people rip in other games? I don't know, but there are always communities about it.
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Ace Combat 7 is 20% complete,
Lighthouse is the equivalent of Stonehenge,
FAS protects the Lighthouse,
Clouds are fully rendered, not sprites.

Source: http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/8431236.html
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>>124695564
I hope they put that cloud tech to work with severe weather battles, we need more stuff like that hurricane level in AH
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>>124695436
>models to use in other games
First, Bamco would sue the fuck out of you if you even thought about that. Second, the stuff that's in DCS and BMS is light years ahead of PA's shit. And modding both of them seems to be next to impossible, so forget about having AC superweapons in those. Summoning aliens by performing a Noh play would be easier.

>audio
I'm pretty sure that's already a thing for Maymay Thrust.

>cut content
Who cares.

>What do people rip in other games
IIRC mostly character models.
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>>124695756
>First, Bamco would sue the fuck out of you if you even thought about that
I didn't mean in commercial games, I meant in mods with other games.
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>>124695564
>FAS
Who?

Also someone please make a new thread already.
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>>124695828
FAS is the big drone carrier.
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>>124579772
>desert arrow
>chasing last awacs with only guns remaining
>it dives to the ground and clips through the surface
Godfuckingdamnit
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>>124694135
Hey, Pixy scored one.
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