/bbg/ - Bloodborne General

Xth for freeing the Great Ones.

>>124554136
oh my fucking god

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/9389 This'll be my first skill focused build with arcane. Arcane is simply too much fun to ignore. Did I do gud bbg?

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xth for I won my second match of PVP out of two and then decided to start over so I could be undefeated and because I didn't like my full BLT build for just bowblade.

Can anyone help me with Defiled Amygdala?

Password is BBG at the lamp.

Worth it to bring Queen Killer?

BEAST MODE IS FUN

GO MAKE A BEAST CHARACTER. SERIOUSLY. THIS SHIT IS BANANAS.

Beast mode is best mode

>>124554279
>>124554354

Beast cutter's range and stagger can be used fairly well in pvp. Sure its not a top tier abuse weapon like the fucking saif but its not terrible

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>>124554581
use its hyperarmor

>>124554347

>ayyliens not using parasite

this triggers me

>>124554136
Remember when the worst thing here was Loranon? Goodish times.

Living Failures. Part Two: Meteorite Boogaloo, Password bbg. Pls don't die this time.

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>invading in Nightmare Frontier
>dealing with ganks left and right
>shitting on all of them with the whirlybird special
>getting dat delicious hate mail

>>124554729

Pretty much. Unless you're in a narrow space you wont hit with an r2, but your r1s will be your best friend

>>124554417
I can help you. I never seen anyone summon queen killer but with the cannon could be useful.

Are you using the wma2 glyph?

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>>124554136
>Backstep bladebow into a parry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOJk0HW_hJw

>>124554783
>>124554136
I enjoyed the few days near the DLC release when people agreed with me and defended me against your idiocy. I remember this one time, somebody went for the usual "zebraposting" deflection and multiple people showed up to tell him he's retarded.

It was nice while it lasted, but I guess the old crew is back to rev up those circlejerks again.

Anyone having problems getting summoned?

Send help to story Amygdala.

Ringing at fog gate, password is bbg2349

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>>124554729
missed the best part

>slow ass pvp in NF
>only two people i can connect to are a laggy ass guy with a rakuyo and an ayy lmao R1 dashing like he's got the blade of mercy, who brushes off shoulders after every fight he wins.

Also ayy lmao mode is the new BoM dash spam tbhfam.

Is putting points in Arcane for Discovery worth it?
Also when do these ticks spawn in chalice dungeons? I know that visceral attacks can spawn them but that doesn't happen while I'm still in the room, right?

so is all in bloodtinge best for bow or equal in tinge and skill?

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>>124555063
whoops wrong webm

>>124555224
Basically if you even turn your back for too long, they can show up. But it's not even close to common or certain.

How do I get good against Orphan?
I know I can back stab him but I don't have enough time to pull off a charge before he turns around.

I can parry him unreliably and his 1st form does me in before I get to 2nd more often than not.

>>124555004
Don't be acting like the hate for Loranon is just some meme. When a person goes that far out of their way to act like an asshat to people, those people are going to hate him.

>>124554982

No, regular defiled chalice layer 3

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>>124555051
Still ringing... I just want my chalice.

>>124555382
Just learn his moveset and how to respond. ALWAYS spam dash/roll when you get grounded. If you do it right, you'll have room to get out of the way of almost all his followups.

>>124555413
It is a meme though. People created a bogeyman because they had nothing better to do. More than one veteran user admitted to riling him up for fun because the thread was dead.

He rarely even acted like an asshat. The story that's told in the comic in the OP? He tested flat damage gems in rifle spear and shared results and people attacked him for "attention whoring" and call him autistic.

>>124555004
Are you loranonposting, anon?

>>124555224
Only when you visceral something big, only after you leave the room, and even then only sometimes. Look for stuff like lever/chest guards, scourge beasts, brainsuckers or the miner/gravedigger guys, basic pthumerian skeletons, emissaries, and beast patients won't cut it.

>hey arc dude
>we know you suffered to get through the DLC
>and have shit gems
>so here's some horrible flat gems
>and some 20% bolt radials

>every enemy from here on and the last boss has gigantic defense to bolt

>>124555382
>beat him without even attempting to backstab
Finding out you could was shocking to me. Stupid videogames conditioning me to never try shit like that.

>>124554895
Beastclaws Samm, if you're out there. You're my hero

>>124554419
Gonna make a 45str/20skl character for my first game so I can use everything.
Mostly for Beast Claws though.

>>124554982

Jesus Christ. From full HP.

that was my last Madman's Knowledge

Spent the rest at messengers cause I underestimated this fight.

I'll get more and try again tomorrow. Thanks.

>>124554332
no input from anyone? respond please? I have literally never done skill anything only strength hybrids and quality, Hell i even did strength bloodtinge before trying a skill weapons out.

>>124555858
Ok. Good luck

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>>124555217
>mfw parasite has BoM-tier dash attacks and a 1k+ damage WoG with hyper armor

>>124555825
It was a fun fight, good work.

>>124555885
if you want to fuck with arcane go 15,18, or 20
25 only gives you access to tiny t which will do shit for damage and eat 6 bullets while also being totally useless all the time

>>124556001
Tiny T absolutely massacres Celestial Emissarry.

>>124554332
no thats a terrible build
why 10 blt?
why 25 arcane?
dont bother leveling endurance
and pick the origin that makes you the lowest level at the stats you want

>>124556001
ok thanks I just put it up to 25 to squeeze some more damage out of augur but that makes sense I can put those 5 into skill or strength

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>>124555063
I outskilled this guy healing on me

>>124556117
It's great for Living Failures too if you're careful to line up more than one Failure to hit with each use.

>>124556117
not with 25 arcane
unless you mean ng+ ayymissary
in which case you can just hit it with bolt paper and high ar for similar results

>>124555627
Bullying took place because loranon shoehorned it where it wasn't necessary and fueled the flames even more because of the resultant spergout. Quit trying to change the story, familia.

>>124555885
Go to 20 arc to use the gloves for the stagger. Either stop there or go to 50+ arc for damage.

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About to fight Logarius, I can probably easiily beat him but fighting a boss alone isn't as fun as doing it with friends.

Pass is snowy
ringing by fog gate

>>124555627
I know exactly what happened with the rifle spear thing. I was the person who asked him to test its damage with flat gems. I appreciate that, by the way.

But Loranon has a very, very annoying flaw: he always deflects the responsibility for his actions onto other people. Never takes responsibility for anything, always blames other people for his own behavior, never takes the effort to meet people halfway and instead expects them to do all the work, never even tries to understand where someone is coming from or even understand what they're trying to say, and when the inevitable miscommunication happens always blames the other person for being "too stupid to grasp the concept". All in all, Loranon is a person who *could* be smart, but goes through far to much effort to isolate himself from other people, and as such his intelligence is hampered by a severe lack of experience. Everything he says and does reeks of naivete and unpolished opinions on the world around him. And, of course, without the ability to really understand other people, he defaults to selfishness without realizing it. It's kind of gross, actually.

Also, I get the sneaking suspicion Loranon honestly thinks he can "shitpost at other shitposters until they leave" or something retarded like that. It's just terrible.

>>124556145
the 10 BLT to mess around with some other guns besides the starting ones. Also it assuages my OCD to have even numbered stats or divisible by 5

>>124556234
>Bullying took place
That's the end of the story actually. Retards acted like middle school children.
> shoehorned it where it wasn't necessary
He posted it once. One little nudge. And the result was a full on freakout and attack. Instead of "I don't care about riflespear" it was "LOL FUCKING ATTENTIONWHORE AUTIST NOBODY CARES LOL"

>>124556201
I have not had the chance to use it on them, but I assumed it did well against them as well.

>>124556228
meant ng, not ng+

>>124556296
Ringing now.

I'm looking for help in NF Amy, can I get some? Ringing at fog door, pass is bbg3416

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>>124555936
>mfw arc users still cry.

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Anyone have that video of that japanese guy destroying orphan of Kos?

>>124556385
>he
Anon, come the fuck on now. It wasn't one little nudge, and the all-caps nobody cares shit didn't come up until well after loranon started his massively cringe inducing spergout.

>>124556296
>no slayer of demons sporting fluted armor in that picture.
why do people forget that DeS exists?

>>124556385
>anon asks how to get good shotgun damage
>"look at my completely useless riflespear damage data that was ignored earlier in the thread"
>"riflespear anon, that's irrelevant here"
>"UGH THAT'S WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PLACE YOU GUYS MAKE FUN OF PEOPLE THAT WORK HARD AND DO RESEARCH >:("
>bullying ensues

>>124556334
>tries to understand where someone is coming from or even understand what they're trying to say
I actually do understand where they're coming from and understand everything they say. I just discard most of it because it's usually garbage. That's where the greentext comes from. There's usually so much garbage in the posts directed at me, I have to put emphasis on every little bit of idiocy included in their post.
> when the inevitable miscommunication happens always blames the other person for being "too stupid to grasp the concept"
They often are. I make the mistake of expecting reasonably high levels of maturity and reading comprehension from people browsing Fromsoft related threads.
> Everything he says and does reeks of naivete and unpolished opinions on the world around him.
My outlook is the furthest thing from naive there could be. I'm misanthropic to a fault. That's not naive. That's realistic.
> I get the sneaking suspicion Loranon honestly thinks he can "shitpost at other shitposters until they leave"
No, I just flat out refuse to back down. To more they ask me to leave, the less likely that becomes.

i fuckin love church picks r1 untransformed combo

does it get any modifier transformed?

>>124556687
bc souls games didn't get popular until dark souls and the world is full of faggot shitters

>>124556663
>It wasn't one little nudge
Actually it was. All I did was inform him I'd posted a test on rifle spear damage if he was interested in a strong shotgun. That's it. Everything else was me responding to childish aggression.

>>124556705
>"riflespear anon, that's irrelevant here"
But that's not what happened. What happened was immediate attacks about attentionwhoring and arguing that rifle spear doesn't count as a shotgun.

>>124556445
Thanks beast bro

>>124556768
sad but true...

Based Firion. Thank you so much.

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>>124556716

>>124556850
It really doesn't. Even the anon that asked for the help said your "research" was irrelevant. There are two (2) instances where you come across riflespears one of which is completely missable why would that anon have included them when asking for shotgun damage?

l m a o

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>be me
>see patches
>forget I need to talk to him to get the rune
>straight up kill him in one swing
It's me, I'm a retard.

>>124557130
>. Even the anon that asked for the help said your "research" was irrelevant.
Long after they had finished making attacks about autism and attention whoring.

I sorely wish I had screencapped it. The whole thing was fucking ludicrous. Especially the revisionist history that people push around with that comic.

>>124554347
crazy damage

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>>124556716

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So I get around 450 ar with my bowblade with this setup. Is that decent? I've never been gud with builds and I just kinda kicked up my skill so I could use the blade a lil better.

>>124557310
That was with 3 mensis gems so it can be pushed to stupid levels if you do chalice shit.

>>124556687
>>124556768
>>124556949
Demon Souls sucked anyway

>pure ARC orphan of kos
>takes 200 damage from my bolt or fire cane

I don't have arcane gems but I bet he's just as tanky to those too
How are you supposed to do this?

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>>124557469
Incoming shit storm.

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>>124557259
you're clearly never going to admit you're incorrect or a jackass. Can we all stop senselessly arguing about this crap and just get on with our lives and make this board not so shitty? Because I come here to talk about bloodborne and pve with anons, not to see people attack you or have you bitch and moan.

Everyone needs to take a sedative, too much fucking frenzy up in this bitch

>>124557469
YOU FUCKING SUCK ANON

>>124557469
It's true
Also Fluted had more gaping seams and worse textures than Bone Ash's shirt, shit was ugly

>>124557423
>lost bowblade with 40 skill
jigga what

>>124557469
AWAY AWAY

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Which one of you guys was it?

>>124557469
just don't reply lads.

>>124557746
I-is that bad? I just wanted to circle rune so the bow mode would be decent

I'm looking to build a skill/blt or skill/arc character, what would be a good way to do that without katanas or broccoli?

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>>124557225
I was going to go for an arcane build, but the bowblade look hype as fuck.

I imagine I can't plop an elemental gem into it, since it's a skl/blt weapon. Fuck, it just feels like all the really cool builds are for builds I'm not doing. Maybe I'll change to something else, I haven't pumped much into arc yet, been splitting levels between it and vit, and I'm only just passed Gascoigne.

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>>124557835

>>124556716
You don't need to greentext at me if that's what you're worried about, I'm not and never was one of those idiots you're trying to pretend exist. I mean, you've tried to call me one countless times, but you call everyone that. I honestly think it's just a thing you do so you don't have to change your mind, or maybe even so you don't have to admit you're wrong.

But no, there have been so many times you said you understood someone, only for them to say you didn't at all and misread them, but then you accuse them of somehow being too stupid to understand their own argument that they just posted, and then you reduce yourself to shitposting. What are you basing your supposed understanding on, if the people you're trying to understand say you don't? It simply cannot be; you claim an impossibility.

If you call yourself misanthropic and claim it's realism, I have no choice but to say your opinions of the world and its people are based on incomplete information. Misanthropy is an error that requires you to make assumptions and generalizations about people without actual evidence. You can say you have enough evidence to make that judgement, but that is another impossibility: if all people are unique in personality, then you have no place to assume anything about them from what little you've seen of them. If you see one post by me and immediately assume I'm a fool, then you're the fool for assuming anything of me that you haven't yet seen.

Let me ask you an unusual question: how many pictures of skeletons have I given you to date? I'm guessing two, but I'm a bit fuzzy on the identity of the first person.

>doing Chalices for the first time
>Undead Giant in Pthumerian Labryrinth bends me over

how 2 git gud

>>124557880
it's more than fine to use a physical setup with 40 skill

you're gaining about 4% max damage in bow form in exchange for losing up to 27.2% physical damage in untricked

>>124557880
it doesn't make sense tbqh
31% is only 4 more % than a 27, and it only effects the bow
the scaling is the same so you essentially are justifying dropping your blade damage by 27% because you have 5 more bt

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>>124555694
>tfw they added bolt resist to every boss because you cheesed the fuck out of everything with the tonitrus

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I don't know what's even happening I just see to sperglords going at it

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>>124557612
>you're clearly never going to admit you're incorrect or a jackass.
I've admitted to be an asshole repeatedly. I'd never admit to being incorrect though, since that hasn't really happened yet.
>Can we all stop senselessly arguing about this crap and just get on with our lives and make this board not so shitty?
First step might be to stop memeing about loranon.
> Because I come here to talk about bloodborne and pve with anons, not to see people attack you or have you bitch and moan.
So stand against the nonsense. Don't support their bullying. If you see somebody losing his mind and attacking somebody while whining about loranon, tell him he's being an idiot and to stop posting. If you see somebody asking who loranon is, tell him it's an idiotic meme and to ignore it. I'm not going anywhere, so it's up to the thread to learn to behave a little better.


>>124557385
>>124557337
>>124556993
you do realize that this kind of post is considered a shitpost right?

>>124555627
>>124555738
Just flawless'd his first form, then his second flailed and killed me in two strings. Fuck this thing.
This game is great when it isn't giant flailing monsters, but that's like 60-70% of the bosses.

You think Djura or Eileen managed to kill any great ones while they were dreaming?

>>124558178
It's pre-DLC stuff anon
you just wouldn't UNDERSTAND

>>124558189
derailing is against the rules, loranon-kun

Why aren't there any Amygdalas hanging around the hunters nightmare?

>>124558189
But anon, the reason they aren't defending the loranon is because the loranon is a jackass who can't admit he's wrong. You're even doing it right now.

>>124557259
hi there, Im the anon who wanted my shotgun to do damage like npc hunters in the comic and what happened was first you put all that rifle spear info and someone literally replied "k" and another said something along the lines of "Nobody will find any use for that guide". And you said they were "being assholes" and chaos insued with you trying to say how your guide was so important and nobody was calling names until you got rude. Next thread I was like "man I want my shotgun to do damage" and you rushed in telling me about the rifle spear like nigga please I aint talkin bout no rifle spear, and people started talkin for me and all I wanted to say was that I dont care for the shitty rifle spear.

>>124558062
What level are you?

Also, just charge in to the sides, three slashes then out, especially if its charging its roundhouse slash. Also the you can focus the tumor on his knee which deals a ton of damage when popped, but it only works once.

Any hints for Maria when she goes full anime?

>>124558461
hit her without getting hit

>>124558307
There are. Dead ones.
Right after the sloping tunnel after the first axe Cthulhu you take cover from the turrets behind an Amygdala's skull.
Its dessicated body is just behind it.

>>124558230
>Djura
>hides and cries on top of a tower with a gatling gun
>Eileen
>2nd time you meet them, they're getting their asswhoped
>3rd time practically dead

You're a good hunter because everyone else sucks shit.

Also, got me thinking, has anyone one done a Djura cosplay with the Gatling gun and just sit on the tower and wait for 2v1?

>get summoned for lugwid
>apparently host ran out of vials or something
>halfway through realize hes been hiding up the stairs around the corner where fudge is made
>realize i'm soloing the boss for him
>silence myself out

nah fuck you m8 shoulda got more vials before starting.

FRC Pthumerian Elder anyone? Will set p/w to bbg if someone responds

>>124558461
You can parry her in all forms.

>>124558379
Like 70. My vit/end are both 15, Skill is 25,and Bt is 45.

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>church pick tricked L2
>that damage
>that range
>not even that much stagger to connect into other things

what is this for?

>>124558584
He was testing you and you failed. Welcome to the Hunter's Nightmare.

>>124558584
>Getting someone to play the game for you
>Making someone else fight a boss on their own that's got extra hp

People will actually defend this behavior here

Hey guys, so i was working on defiled chalice before the dlc came out. i got stuck on watchdog. anyways, now it says my dungeon got deleted. does this mean i cant get any help with it anymore?

>>124558592
ringin, but you should always try to go for a max length password with numbers and shit
>>124558696
hyper armor breaking
>>124558676
>15 vit
lmao

>>124554332
25 arcane won't do anything. why level a physical stat if you're going to level arcane? and those five points in bloodtinge are an absolute waste.

>>124558230
Djura gave up the hunt in Old Yharnam, so no. He's a bitch ass nigga.

Eileen became just as blood-drunk as those she hunted, too busy hunting hunters than beasts.

>>124558696
I think it's actually the fastest attack in the moveset. Basically just for pokes and following up larger swings as far as I use it.

>complaining about hosts when you choose to help them
literally stop co-oping and just PVP instead
like, fucking cry more lol

>>124558570
Yeah, but Eileen is an old ass lady.
And you're telling me Djura didn't go Vietnam chopper gunner on some motherfuckers with that thing?

>>124558749
>>124558709
>get summoned again
>they summoned henrietta
>didn't realize it until i got in the boss itself

MOTHER FUCKER

>>124558696
I think someone posted a webm of it, and I think it might do good poise damage. I could be wrong because I don't touch quality weapons

>>124558021
> there have been so many times you said you understood someone, only for them to say you didn't at all and misread them
That's because they're stupidly self assured of their idea. I examine the ideas and arguments put forth every time and many times I've been forced to reject their premises or reasoning.
> then you accuse them of somehow being too stupid to understand their own argument that they just posted
No I don't. I call them too stupid to understand my own. They usually come at me with a question or point that I refute early and easily. They then continue to rephrase and restate that first refuted idea over and over. The only conclusion left to me is that they're too dumb to understand the idea I'm putting out there.
> Misanthropy is an error
You're the naive one. The world is a shithole, and most humans are living in poverty and fear. If people weren't shit, that wouldn't be the case. People are shit. End of story. inb4 some idiot thinks I feel like an exception to this
>You can say you have enough evidence to make that judgement, but that is another impossibility
No it's not. The planet is a warn torn, polluted, overpopulated mess. That's the fault of people. People are shit.
> if all people are unique in personality, then you have no place to assume anything about them from what little you've seen of them.
Cause and effect. The earth is a shithole, the cause is people.
>How many pictures of skeletons have I given you to date?
No idea. I know I'm the original though and that there's not many others who have held the title for long if at all.

>>124558323
>the reason they aren't defending the loranon
It's not about defending anybody. It's about improving the quality of the thread. They can't make me leave. All they can do is learn to stop burning the thread down if they notice me.

>>124558461
I usually stay as close to her as possible. That fire/blood anime shit always seems to track when I'm far away. Don't be afraid to try to stagger her with charged R2 from behind after an attack either. also see >>124558674

Don't be afraid to be aggressive. It makes her and orphan much easier

>>124556716
Please get a trip, it would solve everything.

>>124558543
Interesting. Thanks.

>>124558883
>henrietta
I say this, too. Even though it's wrong. It sounds better

>>124558696
poise damage

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>>124558945
>improving the quality of the thread

>>124558791
>>124558893
well that's pretty neato. i guess I'll try it when i am getting R1 mashed.

>>124559039
np, vaati

>>124559191
>>124559039
called out

>>124556385
no, he definitely posted it three times in that thread.

that being said, the spergout was almost completely undeserved in the beginning and it's actually the only time i've seen him spread useful information.

>>124558945
see >>124559126
>>124559008

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So for a bloodtinge build, I want Lost Chikage, regular Simon's Bowblade and regular Bloodletter?

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>>124558676
>15 vit

>>124559330
lost chikage
lost bowblade
dunno about bloodletter, been using normal because the other versions don't look worth it

>>124558543
I thought that at first too, but I think they're just meant to be a ruined Amygdala statue to mirror reality.

>>124559330
For full BLT Lost Chikage, Lost Bowblade, and Regular Bloodletter (and hope you get some offshape 31% blt gems while getting your 2 circle ones so you can have some for your letter).

goodnight /bbg/

thanks to all who assisted today, and glad to help those who rang me in!

>>124559330
no ignore chikage and go saw until you get bloodletter faggot

>>124559405
Gotcha, good to know. Just don't want to waste my bloodrock.

>>124559407
They could also just be reused assets.

>>124559301
>please let me plug my ears and ignore you
Go ahead and ignore me, but I'm not gonna give you the tools to do it. What sort of backwards fucking motivations do you think I have? Why would I facilitate people effectively muting/shadow banning me?

>>124559287
>the only time i've seen him spread useful information.
I spread info all the time. The majority of my interactions in the thread are taken in a positive way. I've posted lore theories that came to be accepted and often help people with build advice and boss killing.

>>124559330
depends on the spread
lost chikage and bow blade if 50bt and base reqs
regular bow blade and lost chikage if 25/50 split or similar
always regular bloodletter

>>124558791
I'm still ringing, I suppose we could try changing the password?

>>124559450
Don't let the bed-vermins get ya.

>>124559453
No, I'm using Bowblade and Saif until I get Bloodletter.

>>124559539
>>124559434
Good to know, thank you. Writing this shit down so I don't forget and fuck up this build.

>Djura had three companions
>one participated in the burning of Old Yharnam, and horrified by what he had to do, threw his weapon away in disgust and sat back and let himself roast in the last building he put to the flames
>one became blood drunk and was whisked away into the Hunter's Nightmare, where he continues to defend beasts against the crazed old hunters
>the last gets killed by some asshole who ignored the big ass warning on the door
Djura and pals had a rough life

>>124559330
can you show me your build anon-sama.
ive been trying to find a bloodtinge build for bow
but there's so many variations.

>>124559453
>just did this today
>fucking ludwig with base stats 35 vit and 30 BT that I didn't even get a chance to use

>>124559534
So what about that Blood-letting Beast theory? I recall quite the vehement shitstorm over that.

>>124559585
might be a good idea, this is taking a long time
you're world wide right?

>>124559657
>one participated in the burning of Old Yharnam, and horrified by what he had to do, threw his weapon away in disgust and sat back and let himself roast in the last building he put to the flames
No. One became Paarl.

Read Miyazaki's interview about Paarl. I'm pretty sure he's the last one of the Djura trio. It would explain why seeing/spawning Paarl is the trigger to make Djura docile.

>>124559726
your fault for puttin points into blood that early :^)

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man im having so much fun with L2

>>124559657
Who are the last two companions you're talking about

>>124559778
>>124559778
>So what about that Blood-letting Beast theory?
That was one of the big arguments we've had and one of the times I turned out to be wrong in hindsight. I still hold that with the information available at the time, my theory was robust. I couldn't predict Firesage Demon Laurence

>>124559810
l i t e r a l l y nothing else to put them in because bloodletter was coming up within a few levels anyway

unless I wanted to get bloodletter with like 20 BT like some sort of bitch

>>124559843
thats actually an effective shield the fuck?

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>>124559684
http://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/9401

I'm extremely boring, but I think this will be okay.

So why do people turn into beasts?

>>124560003
>>124559684
Oh shoot, I should apologize; for bow you will probably want more points into Skill. I've even seen people recommend 40/40 skill/bloodtinge setups.

>>124560017
In ancient Loran, some people upset a great one by having children outside of wedlock. It cursed Loran with beast scourge, which takes the form of vermin in your blood that slowly change you into a beast. Yharnam fell victim to the plague by using old blood found from Loran.

>>124559798
Got a link to that interview?

Pls not the mad-as-fuck wank demon one.

>>124560164
>by having children outside of wedlock
Where's this stated?

is the duplication glitch still possible?

>>124559960
>I still hold that with the information available at the time, my theory was robust.
I knew you'd say that.

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>>124559843
can't wait to find you family

Is the nightmare frontier supposed to be what happened to Loran? Was it subsumed into another plane of reality by whatever caused the beast plague to run amok?

>>124559781
Well, thanks anon

>>124560230
>Bastard of Loran is a harbinger of curses and sign of defilement
>Ring of Betrothal says marriage was an important blood contract only permitted to those slated to marry a Great One.

>>124559962
whats your sl? i planned on makin a ~60 bloodletter build. max vit to 35 asap and keep base skill/str and save up all the blood items then usin them all at once

>>124559798
I doubt the Powder Kegs had any connection to Archibald or his experiments on Darkbeasts.

>>124559861
The Gatling Gun hunter found in the Hunter's Nightmare, protecting the BSB and its family
The Saw Spear hunter who jumps you at the bottom of Djura's tower

>>124560385
np
>tfw hp drain and no rock
at least I was helpin out

are living failures kin?

>>124560017
Moon Cthulu multi-plane thinking blood drunk ancient egyptian orphan making triple vampire space insanity-inducing placenta or something's in the blood

>>124560164
Damn, that's a lot of head canon.

>one reborn taking away 90% of my health with one arm swipe

I'm ducking done with this shit.

>>124560583
In the same sense that people turned into ayys are.

>>124558945
Ugh. What a messy thing you've shat out. This behavior is part of why you're the worst shitposter here, you know.

You talk about people being stupidly self assured of their ideas, and you talk about them rephrasing the same one idea in several different ways. They do this because you failed to understand them the first time, and they're trying to get an idea through to you that you're failing to grasp. But instead you lay the fault on them, and accuse them of being the source of the problem, rather than trying to change the only thing you can improve: yourself. You're wasting an awful lot of your own time by not improving your own ability to communicate, and you're losing out on literally everything besides. All the knowledge in the world dances just outside your grasp because of this.

Which leads me directly into this other, highly unrelated topic. I apologize in advance, because I'm nowhere near my best right now. I've had this discussion with other, more intelligent people before and come out cleanly on top, But right now? Don't hold it against me if I'm too exhausted and hungry to manage anything coherent. I can only ever give you what you want, even if it's not what you wish it was. So instead, I give you this quote:

"The best way to do this, obviously, is to elect me Global Emperor For Life. One of my second or possibly fifth actions in office will be to build a Genius Force from humans scattered all across the pathetic mudball you call... "Earth". I will then force them to fix all the stuff on pain of being impaled upon the gates surrounding my capitol city of iron and despair. Within five months, I promise that you will have access to a functioning hoverboard and an anatomically correct lady-bot capable of crushing your enemies and giving you a sex-massage at the same time. Or a man-bot, if you wish. Whichever. They're multi-purpose. Your demand for nigh-instantaneous solutions to the world's problems shall be answered."

>>124560280
anyone?

>>124560501
> crafted in secret by Archibald, the infamous eccentric of the Healing Church, for his friends.

For his friends. That's startlingly specific. Also, he's an eccentric and so are the keggers. It's not a perfect theory, but it does make sense of the Paarl+Djura trigger.

>>124560404
Ring of betrothal has nothing to do with Loran, it's not even found in their chalice dungeons

The Bastard of Loran is a symbol of curses because it's a stillborn fetus afflicted with the curse of beasthood. There's no reason to assume that bastards were what caused the breast plague to go out of control in Loran.

First playthrough, doing a STR/ARC build, just recently found the Tonitrus. It's the perfect weapon for me, with perfect scaling... But it feels too strong. Like, the game just became 10 times easier the moment I started using it.

Is Tonitrus the Zaphander of Bloodborne?

>>124560720
The keggers are also heretics in the eyes of the church.

>>124560880
Durability is shit m8 and moveset is bland

you must be a weak boring faggot to like such a shit weapon

>>124560710
>What a messy thing you've shat out
It's easy. I'm lazy.
>they're trying to get an idea through to you that you're failing to grasp
No, they just don't see or accept my refutation and rejection and get mad about it.
>You're wasting an awful lot of your own time by not improving your own ability to communicate,
My communicative abilities are exceptional. They're important at my job and I wouldn't be able to do it without them.
>All the knowledge in the world dances just outside your grasp because of this.
Careful, you're getting a little pretentious.

>>124558945
too shy shy, hush hush, eye to eye

>>124560880
>it feels strong
it is, in pve
except it has das2 tier durability

Oh my fucking Kos, someone send help to upper cathedral ward. I can't deal with these brain fuckers. Can't even stagger their fucking arcane handcuff ability. PLS.
Ringing at lamp, pass is bbg1212

>>124560426
I was about BL60 when I got to ludwig
planning on stopping at BL79
40
11
15
11 I really should've just left this at 9
45
7
bloodletter has been really fun in the chalices so far but I think they were nerfed in 1.07

>>124560710
why bother?

>>124560880
Tonitrus is one of the few weapons in the game that actually works with str/arc. It's basically all you'll be using now until the wheel. It does good R1-mashing dps but that's literally all it does and its durability is terrible.

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What a shit boss.

>>124560938
Just because you want to blow shit up suddenly you're a "heretic" pfft.

>>124560815
>Ring of betrothal has nothing to do with Loran
Loran was merely a part of the Pthumeru civilization. Loran is Pthumerian. It's directly connected.
>There's no reason to assume that bastards were what caused the breast plague to go out of control in Loran.
Except that we know great ones valued marriage and that Loran was just part of "Pthumeria"

>>124560938
The badge was made in secret. And we actually don't know who considers them heretics.

>>124561089
She's easy, but I thought it was a really cool fight all the same.

>>124561089
are you trying to be the 4kingsguy of this general or something

>>124561161
No. It's just tedious. She doesn't even attack you.

I know emissary and micolash are shit bosses but at least they do something.

>>124558075
So my 31% Blt gem isn't helping out that much? I wanna make the most of the entire weapon, so I'm just trying to balance out the two forms

>>124560980
Coming

>>124561021
>11 ya fucking blew it kiddo. Reroll remake character, you're done.

You'll never be as good as ya could have been


>tfw no respec

>>124560938
Am I the only one that just assumed they were declared heretics to turn them into scapegoats for the burning of Yharnam.

Church cuts them lose and gets to blame the whole incident on them and keep good PR with the rest of the public.

>>124560938
Actually that's a bit of a mistranslation. The powder kegs are heretical in how their methods deviate from the traditional ones of the workshop, not because they're religiously heretical towards the church. A better translation would be 'deviants' because the original doesn't have a religious connotation. That line is basically just calling attention to the fact that the kegs were radically different in their approach to weapon-making than the original or church workshops.

>>124560720
Weren't the Powder Kegs pretty much wiped out by the time of the Healing Church workshop?

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>>124558945
Your expectations and conclusions were long wrong from the beggining loranocunt. I realized that you're not in deep denial, you had slowy decrease your intelligene over the past months by shitposting repeatedly. You're facing the facts now fag and still you're denying.

Ok, fuck this.
Like four hours over two nights and I can't fucking beat Orphan form 2.

Come to the boss door before I eat my fingers in rage.

>>124561302
Yer telling me that the first time you fought her you didn't react to a 2nd witch? Figuring out the fight was fun, even though I have never once had issues with her I still like the boss. Its a gimmick boss done right.

I remember slapping down like 5 scarecrows before I caught on, and then when I killed the one I was surprised to see another.

>>124561089
at least the boss arena is pretty dope if you look up

>>124561021
yeah its hard to figure out which origin to start out. the one with like 6 blood/7 tinge i found the best. had the least skill

why the fuck did they make waste of skin not elvel 1

why do all the builds have such stats in arcane/blood

>>124561089
We get it, fuck off.

>>124561126
Yes we do.
>"A trick weapon fashioned by the workshop heretics, the Powder Kegs."
Heretics of the workshop. Considering the original workshop was abandoned and the church workshop is the current one, they were heretics of the church.

>>124561302
>It's just tedious
Charged R2 into Visceral does 1/3 of her health at least. At the very VERY least, she's a quick way to get a bunch of echos and has a pretty cool theme to her. I died the first time I fought her just because of that fucking grab.

Fellow Boom Hammer enthusiasts, what's the best imprint for the thing?

> Maria hits full anime
> only 2 flasks left
> audibly yell "GO TIME"
> Dodge every unzip katana masterfully
> win with a cool pose for the trophy shot
Why would anyone spoil this fight with parries

>>124561126
>Loran was merely a part of the Pthumeru civilization. Loran is Pthumerian.
>Loran was just part of "Pthumeria"
You're going to have to give some citations for that one, guy.

I mean, I know you don't, because if you did you would have used them to support your argument without needing to be asked. Instead you just came out and stated headcanon as fact, but I guess that's what you;ve been doing all along so it should be expect.

But no, go ahead. Throw down some item descriptions on me. Lets see your evidence for this Loran = Pthumerian claim.

>>124561434
>Summoning before you beat a boss solo
What's yer vit lad?

>>124561303
Go with regular variant with all tempering gems then
Only go lost if you pretty much only use the trick mode, like any other tinge weapons

>>124561537
Uncanny with Blunt Gems. Good luck farming the Undead Giants

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>Gehrman's bossfight
10/10 boss fight completely worth avoiding this game until GOTY edition. I fucking love that soundtrack

>>124561520
You're arguing semantics of the word choice of an english translation. You do realize how utterly meaningless that is, right?

>>124561465
I'm probably one of the few retards who didn't realize lmao2witch. I'm sitting there going "wait what's this second health bar" then she got me with the grab.

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>>124561434
Just one more try, anon. Strafe right and get a couple hits. Only attack on certain moves you know are save. Parry the lunge attack. Unlock the camera if the grenade throw jump is getting you. Buff your weapon. JUST DO IT

>>124561592
I didn't ask for a min max lecture, I asked you to come to the door.

>>124561332
Thanks. Killing wolves now.

>>124561383
>deviants
Beastfucking degenerates, the lot of them

>>124561303
think of it this way
a tempering 27.2% gives you 27.2% damage in your bow form AND sword form, so it gives you 54.4% damage in total
the blood 31.5% only gives you that in your bow form but gimps your sword form

>>124561345
I've thought of remaking from the very second I put them in, but I'll never get those 5 hours back.

>>124561481
I picked lone survivor because its skill+arc total was less than the other starting classes' but I went ahead and fucked it up by investing for repeater/evelyn

>>124561669
Fucking no one realizes how meaningless that is. I've seen at least 2 fanbases tear themselves apart over this kind of thing over and over and over for weeks and weeks.

>>124561669
>If you didn't read it in Japanese it doesn't count
Really?

>>124561520
Hm. So at the time of Gerhman's workshop, existed the Oto Workshop, which is said to be the precursor to the Powder Kegs. So once the Hunter's Nightmare was established and all the blood drunk hunters of the Oto Workshop were whisked away into the Nightmare, their remnants, or perhaps newcomers who thought the Boom Hammer was totally awesome, took up their design philosophy and were subsumed by the Church as the Powder Keg hunters?

>>124561864
yeah, really
we've already seen mistranslations

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>>124561587
>You're going to have to give some citations for that one
It's common sense. Chalice dungeons are all just segments of the massive "tomb of the gods" found under Yharnam. The labyrinth was created by Pthumerians and they're the ones who populate it. Not to mention all the Pthumerians you see wandering around in Loran. Bell Maidens, Sackmen, Watchers.

>Throw down some item descriptions on me
There are none. It's too obvious for there to be need of a description to hit you over the head with. Chalices = Pthumeru Labyrinth under Yharnam. Loran = Chalice. Loran = Pthumeru.

>>124561864
BB had kind of a shitty translation, honestly. Like, almost as bad as DaS1.

>>124561774
And see that's the problem. In english you don't have a good word for 'radically deviated from established norms' without it either being religious or sexual. I can understand why they made the chocie they did, because 'deviants of the workshop' makes it sound like they were libertines going around naked rubbing gunpowder onto their nipples and having explosion orgies. But, inevitably in a game where a major moving force is a church and its religion, any use of the word heretic is going to be dangerously loaded.

anyone near lvl 35 in forbidden woods?

>>124561774
But anon...
If it ain't got kick, it just ain't worth it.

So it's 50STR only for Boom hammer without arc viable? or is arcane worth it for boom hammer?

>>124561667
Indeed.

>>124561735
Nothing min/max about it, you're just being a little bitch. A lot of people make the mistake of thinking sub 30 vit is going to work on him.

>>124562119
it's never worth it

>>124561974
So do you know the Japanese version says contrary, or is your whole argument that the English version is on par with head canon because of an insane paranoia for mistranslation?

>>124562025
>Chalices = Pthumeru Labyrinth under Yharnam
Except there are some Loran tilesets where you're in a valley in what is clearly a desert, and it's not possible that it's underneath Yharnam.

>>124561789
yeah the way to get bloodletter at a decent level is pretty much ignoring chikage, which is my mistake on my blood character

as soon as i got blood i just stopped caring about chikage. plus the moveset pissed me off and was too weeaboo

the only time i was thankful for high blood for dlc was for laurence since i just bma evelyn him on phased 2 a lot

bloodletter builds just require you to get it lowest as possible since its pretty much end game :^( nothin to do if you already cleared the game

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>unique and cool enemy
>only appears as part of a boss fight

Why

>>124554136
>Snek npc shows up
>Blows the whistle and eats himself
praise be to fickle snek

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>that music
>that voice
>that opening cinematic
>that moveset
>that being cute as fuck
>that transformation
>that looking exactly like the doll
>that setting your own fucking blood on fire
>that everything

Lady Maria is EASILY the best boss in the entire series. I thought Gehrman was cool, but holy fuck. I've been co-oping for three hours just so I can see her go full blood samurai. I also love and appreciate the doll even more now.

>>124562119
Why do so many people think boom hammer or any non arc weapon arcane? Yeah it has a scaling, doesnt mean you should pump that stat, bloodborne scaling works differently with gems and shit.

should I run thrust gems or regular tempering gems on my church pick?

>>124562386
I like Orphan more, when he grows the weird flesh wings it's one of my favorite enemy designs ever.

>>124562178
>nah-uh I can get by with my anime quicksteps

>>124562204
look at the huge difference between what we know as the "bloodletting beast" and its japanese name

>>124562317
>they're actually people
Oh shit. I didn't get a good look at them when I was running through and I just assumed they were literal dolls, but they're made of fucking people.

Goddamn, Mensis.

>>124562317
>cant rally hp back with them

whats the lore

>>124562346
>get cuaght by snek
>appears to be two sneks at once overlapped

some tremors shit

>>124562281
>Except there are some Loran tilesets where you're in a valley
These tilesets exist in other dungeons too. I've had one in Isz.
>in what is clearly a desert
It's depth 4 minimum. Depth is a literal indication of how far underground you are. I know you can see light, but there's no sun or moon visible. It's just abstract light. The same abstract light that can be seen leaking through cracks in the ceilings throughout all dungeons.
> it's not possible that it's underneath Yharnam.
It's magical arcane fuckery my friend. Pthumerians unlocked the Eldritch Truth.

>>124562484
How in the hell does that relate to the keggers? You can't just write off anything you want because of mistranslations elsewhere.

>>124562178
>I'd rather shitpost about the way you play a single player game than join you in playing it!
Lol ok faggot.

>>124562317
>unique
It's a skeleton with rayman anatomy
>cool
Well of course they are. They're nothing but skin and bones.

Now I'm thinking, what's the temperature in dreams/nightmares?

>>124562386
I NEED MARIA SLIDERS
GOOD ONES

>>124562651
Least I can beat OoK without help

>>124562580
>It's magical arcane fuckery
Well done. You've boiled it right down to "I need to rely on unsubstantiated deus ex machina to maintain my headcanon"
Go ahead, go right on believing it because I clearly won't be able to shake your firm belief in your own fanfiction.

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>>124562386
I thought she was going in for a kiss

Ebrietas now? Would like the echoes. And so I can revive the whore queen.
Ringing at fog gate, bbg1212

WHYY?! WHY THE FUCK DO ASSHOLES DRAG NPCS INTO FIGHTS WHEN I'M THE ONLY ONE HERE!

I swear to god I am growing to hate BB's pvp playerbase more and more.

>trying to kill Amelia at level 25
I don't remember what level I was when I killed her the first time...

>>124562725
Trophy's in the mail.

>>124562727
>Well done. You've boiled it right down to "I need to rely on unsubstantiated deus ex machina to maintain my headcanon"
Oh so you think magical white light leaking through the ceilings in subterranean tunnels needs a scientific explanation?

>>124562731
She does kiss you after getting a visceral onto you. A peck onto the cheek, and then you die.

>>124562731
She only does when she viscerals you

anyone up for some defiled amy in the story chalice? I've never co oped in the CDs before so do i just set a password up? If so will be by the fog gate pass is gitgud plz help

>>124562851
Just upgrade a Saw weapon and mash R1 with fire paper.

Standing outside Orphan's door, password is dicks. Let's have a party.

>>124562958
This. The only time I've ever had to fight amelia for real has been on challenge runs and she's honestly a shit boss. It's better to just blow her up with a saw and not linger.

>>124560969
Dude, humor me for a second.

For every theory I've ever seen you post, your every conclusion was based on evidence that could only follow if, and only if, the conclusion itself was true. I was there for the Bloodletting one and multiple other cases, and I was the person you were arguing against. I had said that Laurence's beast skull did not resemble Bloodletting Beast's skull. I was precisely as correct then as I am now.

In every case, if the evidence for a theory cannot be true without the theory itself being true, then the theory cannot be said to be valid. It is, at best, impossible to determine with the given evidence, pending more substantial evidence.

You commit this same error when you talk about the world being so terrible. Yes, bad shit happens in the world. But rather than approaching it logically, you are making a statement (in this case, "people are terrible") and finding data that would support that statement were it true ("look at all the terrible things done by people"). However, it falls apart when a person looks at your data without first assuming that you are correct. This means your evidence cannot support your claim. And, for the exact same reason why you were wrong with the Bloodletting Beast = Laurence assertion, you are precisely as wrong here.

I needn't say anything else really, because that's the ultimate core of it.

>>124561021
Because I know what he can be when he isn't being a shithead. I've talked to him before.

Why's it say that I've discovered a small resonant bell, but then no-one shows up?

>>124562947
If your glyph is wma2 I can help you

>>124554136
At 25/25 with the bow, still leveling. Should I max tinge first or what?

>>124563095
>story chalice
>glyph

>>124563048
>>124562958
You assume I remember how to play.

>>124563018
I'll come if you help me back, fucker.

>>124563095
arent the story chalices static or is it a random glyph each time?

>>124562386
Shes okay, she has a lot of moves that stunlock and she literally fucking glides more than gehrman does. And her "yeah just let me slice you with my edgy blood from fucking 50 feet away" attacks are fucking annoying. And she constantly does those attacks. So shes meh in my book. I prefer bosses that get a bit more up close when attacking, projectiles are okay as long as they arent faster than Hussain bolt on crack and they do them conditionally.

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Enemies that trigger the absolute shit out of you.

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>>124562931
>>124562942
brb

>>124563160
>>124563289
Whoops. Forgot about the new patch again. I'll ring my bell at the stairs to the fog now

>>124563346
I don't think I've ever managed to fight one of those things without cheesing it. I just charge an R2 while they run at me and knockdown chain them to death from that. If the game ever made me fight more than 1 of them at a time I'd literally roll over and die.

How the fuck do you fight them?

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>>124563347

>>124563387
awesome thanks man, should I summon queen killer too?

>>124563346
In spoop or fighting factor?

Spoop and kinda fighting = bloodlickers.
Fighting = dogs. Fuck dogs.

Where’s the singing coming from in Hypogean Gaol?

The Choir working with Mensis confirmed?

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>>124563346
I can't fucking handle bloodlickers. They're too goddamned fast, tough, and agile for me. Getting behind them is hard, staying behind them is harder, and staying in front of them is suicide.

>>124563489
I wouldn't. Wastes another insight.

God dammit Firion. You're an absolute beast. I hope I can call your aid when I get into the DLC.

>>124563018
Been standing here for 5 minutes...

>>124563559
The NPC with infinite bullets for his +10 Cannon and 99 Bloodtinge is not a waste of insight.

>>124563460
don't get hit

>>124563460
shoot them

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>>124563558
You're not getting git gud enough.

Well its official, the saif has replaced the spear as the cancer.

>>124562386
>waifufags

>>124563661
I've got my beckoning bell on. Does level matter?

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>>124563660
>firion helped me when I got fucking mad after dying to Orphan's blood explosion AOE he throws in the air when he had about two HP left

Firion the real MVP.

>>124563696
Fair enough. It still does use another insight though

>>124563824
Firion has helped me at least ten times so far. He's the hero we deserve.

>>124563770
nothing will ever eclipse the meme spear
saif is fotm like memegig and rakuyo
saw spear will out

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>finally made a character that isn't steve buscemi
The game feels so.. Different

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>>124563346

>>124562931
> survive
> immediately unzips on me

>>124563762
I killed Laurence with a level 30 character so I could co-op in beast mode, then killed Maria just so I could get the same hat abhorrent beggar has. If that's not gud enough, I'm legitimately scared of what gud is.

>>124563973
He doesn't look amused by the events transpiring before him

>>124563973
is that matt damon?

>>124563973
Whose that meant to be?

>>124564014
Yeah, but you should be a gentleman and die to the visceral.

>>124563939

Oh no, its ice skating transforms and r1s are far superior to the meme spear. It is pure, unadultered bullshit

>>124564173
It wouldn't be an honest death

>>124563346
Saw spear's phantom range is a fucking nightmare so >>124563973

>>124563018
So I'm this guy and I'm not getting any people joining. I will help back, of course. Is anyone trying to join me? My internet might be shitting itself?

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>those fucking naked rolling giants

>>124563973
So that's where Julius Rosenberg ended up

>>124563973
>when you realize jet fuel can't melt steel beams

>>124564228
A last kiss is the best and only way to go, it doesn't get any more honest than that.

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>there are milkweeds
>in this thread
>right now
>with blue skin

Why do you do? Don't you understand that the lumenflower is the seed of your brain, enveloping you in its glorious blossom? A flower needs it's pot anons, you're not a celestial, you're a host.

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>>124563973
I swear to fucking god buscemi it hurts laughing now

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>>124563927
I-If only I could be as helpful as Firion

>>124564205
>r1s
>superior to the meme spear
>l1s
>that pathetic damage compared to meme spear's modifiers
>those mid tier dash attacks compared to the meme spear's dash
I don't believe you

>>124563346
Everything in research hall, specially the naked fuckers that run like pic related

sitting outside shadows of yharnam, bl 35, anyone wanna help?

>>124564401
I don't even know how he does it, to be honest. The guy is everywhere and has multiple max weapons I'm assuming. Might be different characters all built up for whatever purpose. Seriously a carry. We must aspire to be like him, anon. Jolly cooperating carriers. One day.

>>124564342
Yea but I look cute now, so who cares.

>>124564519
I could probably help if you need it

Why does the beast cutter suck so badly in pvp?

>>124564519
Gimme a code

>>124564169
Ayy, fuck off

>>124564171
Just some random hunter, dude

>want to get that cool looking alternative female Yharnam Hunter set
>want to play as an androgynous male hunter

What do?

>>124564680
slow and telegraphed
you can catch people off guard with the hyper armor but it's parry bait at worst and an easy punish to people who don't run into it

>>124564680

Too slow, too little damage.

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>>124564114
>bloodlikers are too much for your asshole to handle
You got me there that you rekt Laurence on level 30

>>124564683
>>124564672
bbg3d5gg

>>124564680
Low damage potential, slow, high stamina costs.

Its untricked mode is tonitrus-tier and the tricked mode is straight trash. Only redeeming feature is the kinda decent dodge attack in each form.

>Get back into the groove of Bloodborne after three deaths to Amelia.

I'm sure I'll get her tomorrow.
And my Boom Hammer too.