/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

>>124393962

>PSX 2015 Footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjK5f7ozzOM

>>124393962
>you will never see two NPCs talking to each other

>>124394141
>you'll never see an npc actually moving from one location to another

>>124394109
literally bloodborne 2
souls franchise is finished
its over

>>124394467
That's part of he reason why Dark Souls is so depressing. You're the only sane guy in the entire world.

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>invading worlds as a naked fat ugly guy

requesting the pic of the gargoyle's butthole

>>124394558
Sounds pretty comfy desu, nobody to annoy me

will Dark Souls 3 bring in more cheesy ways to kill bosses?

hitting them until they die is only fun for so long

Just did a no death run do I still get the ring If I got cursed by nashandra?

>>124394862
Does the screen says "YOU DIED"?

>>124394818
did you know if you use a phoenix down on gravelord nito it casts death instantly?

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>>124394624

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My favorite game of all time has a pretty mediocre metacritic score. I wonder what other great games people are missing out on cause of shitty "critics" that can't see past the minor technical issues.

>>124394927
ok thanks

>>124395045
I was going to talk about a diamond in the rough, but Dark Souls is just too flawed for this.
>get it on my old computer
>was slow as fuck despite my PC being no pushover
>couldn't use keyboard and mouse without installing fanmade patch
If you compare it to others games where you just install and play, Dark Souls is a pain in the ass.

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>wanted to try to go infinite stamina and HP melee only against the fire lizards
>it still took 15 minutes
>they also heavily damaged my armor
>find out they respawn anyway
This is the only truly unfair enemy in the series

>>124395045
the co-op bullshit was not minor

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b-be still my throbbing boner

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Someone has a png file of the Father's Mask? I want to add it to this picture.

Suggestions for a fun build to go with now that I've bought Scholar? Just finished Fallout 4 and looking to get back in to DS2 PvP again.

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Why aren't you invading at low SM, /dsg/?

>>124395045
>trusting reviews from "journalists"
Also, the PS3 version has 89 from citics, which is less that DaS2's 91 on all platforms, so that should give you an idea about these "critics" reviews

>>124395579
you're going from bad to worse anon
refund while you can

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>>124395035
Every time someone posts this I just furiously masturbate imagining fucking him like there's no tomorrow, and right after that being held down and pounded by him in return.
Oh, yes. Yes.

>>124395579
Use jester chest, estoc, ring of blades and flynn's ring for a a wacky jester build

>>124395631
ive been gone too long
did they seriously make the monastery bullshit again?

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Why aren't you invading at high SM, /dsg/?

>>124395045
It got a pretty shit port

>>124395856
I don't play dark souls pham

>>124392131
>seath is 2stronk
>i killed it once and died in its dying animation, and havent been able to down it since

Bow the nigger's pussy. He has no long range attacks other than breath, which does little damage and only a little curse.

>Arrow him
>run to the other side
>repeat

Nigger never touched me.

>>124395894
;_;

>>124395641
Maybe DaS2 is just a better game and you're blinded by shiny.

>>124395650
>Bad to worse

Is Scholar that shit? I haven't actually bought it yet but it's only a tenner on G2A and I figured the online would be a bit more populated. Please enlighten me.

>>124395938
there is no reason for seath to ever hit you even if you use bare fists, unless you’re trying to get the mlgs

>>124396308
Just a meme from /v/.

Question, why do I get invaded by dark spirits every now and then? I thought only humans could be invaded by those.

And I don't mean scripted AI dark spirits, I know when those appears because the messages on the floor warn me so. I mean real players, I know they are players because there are no messages and they do retarded shit like running away when on low health.

>>124396514
>running away when on low health.
AI dark spirits can do that ya know

>>124396308
all they did was move loot around and add a lot of unnessessary new enemy placements, like all the claw manikin in earthen or the fucking platoon of knights in iron keep
also durability bug, sm, and no full orb are still things

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>>124396514
Also should have mentioned: I mean being invaded by those while in hallow form

>>124396308
I bought DaS2 Scholar Edition on this sale, it's my first time ever playing a souls game and I'm having a blast. I also heard that it's way more difficult than the original one, but there's nothing that can stop co-op.

>>124396620
Can they also have names like dorspin34?

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>>124394109
I hate how heavy weapons go from shit's heavy yo to it feels like nothing at all in the recovery.
DaS2 was much smoother in that regard.

>>124396308
I can only really speak for myself, and hope that if you feel about stuff similarly to myself, that it'll help you. Scholar is REALLY bad, even worse than Dark Souls 2 Vanilla. The additions are the DLCs for free basically, which is nice (even though they're really bad), and the actual new content is kinda minuscule. Instead of fixing all of the problems from vanilla, the dev team instead opted to compound them even more so by making the enemy placements pants on head retarded. Some are ok, whatever, but a lot are either sending a million hyper aggressive guys at you, or incredibly jarring like putting an executioner's chariot in the middle of the upper floor of Drangleic Castle.

>>124396840
>completely different people at entirely different times swing weapons at different way and move at different speeds
>this is somehow a bad thing

>>124396998
>sending a million hyper aggressive guys at you
If only there was 4 player coop.

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>>124394109
>gaping dragon

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What the fuck. I've killed so many bosses so far and have just one boss trophy. I'm at 10% so far.

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>>124397142

>>124396701
>Platoon of knights

No idea why but that made me kek fucking hard.

Well, I've bought it now anyway so I'll see how it goes once it's installed. If anyone is ever up for starting some jolly cooperation that shit'd be cool.

>>124397312
>what is soul memory

How much fucking Vit does iron flesh need I'm at 50 with third dragon ring and soldier ring, I just want to meme roll fuck skae

>>124396840
>wanting long recoveries
fuck orf ffam

>>124397658
What do I even do about this

I'm at Shaded Forest currently, got like 780k soul memory. There are no signs to summon people and no one ever summons me. What do? I think I died too much and ended up with too much souls

>>124397728
>wanting to spam buttons with 0 punishment
dasdreck pls

>>124397728
>reading comprehension
No, I want a smooth transition to the default pose.
look at >>124397593
He keeps the sword on the ground for 2 seconds.
That's just bad.

>no demon's souls
>no ds3
Hello Sony

>>124397957
wish I knew

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How do I fight these things? THey keep killing me. I attack their asses and never let them face me. But I can't do that all the time. Some times the area is just too narrow.

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Hey /dsg/, we're playing in the VGL 5 in a few against /ink/!

twitchDOTtv/the4chanNOSPACEcup

GET IN HERE
GET HYPE
BACKSTABBU

>>124397601
steamid:Sormir
i was about to make a new character anyways, i can show you around if you want

>>124398461
>down 1-0
Are we going to lose?

>playing SotFS
>killed Nashandra
>now it's time to do the DLCs!
>crown of the sunken king
>stuck because everything kills me
>crown of the ash king
>stuck at fume knight, he kills me in one combo
>crown of the snow king
>stuck at Aava, he kills me in one combo

Time to uninstall that game for a few months and come back at it once I'm calm because right now I am mad.
>only characters to help me are AI
>when I put my sign down, I'm summoned only to clear the area, not to fight the boss
>probably overloaded on souls anyway

>>124398845
New to soul series

Do people really make new characters?

Can't you just use one of the many soul vessels available to respec? What's the point? I kinda want to try making a mage, but what keeps me from just respeccing?

>>124398347

Kill them in one or two hits. A jumping attack from a Great weapon should do it in NG.

>>124398913
Yeah because we have fake solaire as GK.

>>124399038
there are only so many soul vessels you can get in one ng cycle
also different characters for different purposes, like dedicated invaders/summons

>>124399038
Restarting with the SM/SL.

>>124399161
Anon if you do that you won't be able to play with the other anon, right?

So the NG+ allows you to respec?

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2-1 now, come on Git Gud

>>124399378
3-1*

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Are the rumors of a Demon's Souls remaster justified?

>>124399474
3-2

>>124399616
no

>>124399616
There's not enough fanarts with the heroes interacting together.

>>124399038
If you just respecced your character your Soul Memory would be the same, so some people restart in order to play with friends etc or just if they don't want to take a character to NG+

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>>124399474
3-2 now thanks to some encouragement

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Guys this game is killing me I don't think I can watch
SCORE A FUCKING GOAL DAMNIT

I might plat Demon's Souls over Christmas. Only gotta collect all spells and craft just about every weapon type.

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>>124400209
3-3 senpai

Lads in Dark Souls after I got past the dragon guarding the bridge he fucked off, seemingly forever but I went back recently after a few hours elsewhere and he magically returned. Then he flew off again.
What makes him come back?

>>124400272
Not sure where you are but when you are at the beginning he will come back when you kill the gargoyles and try to cross the entire bridge again.

>>124400314
Leaving the game.

>>124400314
crossing the bridge, around the half way point

>>124400473
Thanx faam
Also what is the benefit of invading other people?

They killed Git Gud.
Fucking squids.

>>124400595
other than pvp?
you gain humanity

>>124399616
The PSX keynote isn't over yet.
>these VR games look like utter garbage

>npc invasions in black gultch
im dropping the third nuke on Japan

Never played 2.

What is Soul memory?
Does the game not use humanity points?

>Final Score: 3-3
Do we bother /ink/ now?

>>124400595
You get one humanity if you kill the host. If you invade as forest hunter you get some upgrade materials instead.

>>124400595
Dark Souls? You get humanity.
Dark Souls 2? You get various covenant rewards and souls.

>>124399616
We'll have to see what comes about during Sony's weekend thing, but likely not.

There was that pic of all the BB with a DeS on top, but that could mean anything from nothing to a port to a full remaster.

It'd be nice if it was the latter, I've been waiting for more games to come out on PS4 so I can talk myself into buying one for BB.

>>124400795
SM is a number equal to the total number of souls a character has ever gotten through any means. How many you have affects who you can play with.

And no, DS2 does not use humanity in the way that DS1 did. You're either human or hollow, although you can be varying degrees of hollow.

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>>124401063
>post yfw it's Bloodborne: old hunters editon coming to PC

>>124401219
You forgot to mention that even lost souls counts in SM, which means you can get grouped with high-levelled players if you fucked up a lot.

>No soul sucker
>No dark hand
Literally no point to invade in Das2

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>>124401316
Probably something like this.

I feel like I'd have almost as much fun watching the buttmad unfold as I would with the game itself.

>>124401405
>corrosive urns

>>124401316
Why do you need BB on PC, anon ? DaS3 will come out next year on PC and it's more or less the same.

>>124401853
>Why do you need BB on PC, anon ?
to see the shit blizzard that would occur

>>124401953
No one would give a fuck except those turds that bought a PS4 just for BB.

>>124401853
Because DaS3 doesn't have Gascoigne.

guess no ds3 footage or DeS remake

>>124402143
How do you know there won't be some Gascoigne counterpart in DaS3 ?
>"Hollows all over the shop...You'll be one of them sooner or later..."
>goes Hollow halfway through the fight

>mfw /mk8g/ is getting raped by /5fnafg/

>>124402710
The video posted yesterday was supposed to be the DaS3 footage. They didn't show it again in the keynote.

DeS remake was never going to happen. That tweet was just showing all the collaboration games between From and Japan Studio. Nothing more, nothing less.

>>124398347
There's no way around, circle them.
If the space is too narrrow, lure them into a more open area
Be sure your weapon is as upgraded as you can

Anybody else run warmth in the arena?
I've been doing it and haven't lost a match yet

>>124402883
wrong general familia

>nintendo keepers

>>124396760
If you're talking about DaS2, you always could get invaded while hollowed by players. The only way to stop that is to burn an effigy at a bonfire, but that won't stop the NPC invaders.

>>124397957
From experience, no one ever really summons in the Shaded Ruins in SotFS. If anything, try to check if there are summon signs directly in front of the boss gate.

>Nito

SO what do I do? Nito himself is easy, but I have to deal with 20 constantly reviving skeletons. As soon as I kill one batch the other batch has revived. And I randomly get hit with some red thing that I can't predict.

>>124404771
Either poise, use a divine weapon, be able to kill the giant skeletons in 1-2 hits or die.

Also, let Nito kill the skeletons for you with his aoe. The red spike occurs after you hear a high-pitched scream from affar.

>>124404965
>use a divine weapon

Fuck. I always forget that. I'll have to go back and make one.

>>124405524
You can just use the ASS, its one purpose is to serve as a free divine for skellington slaying purposes.

>>124407410
>>124405524
>>124404965

Thank you for the divine tip. I had completely forgotten about that. I had a shortsword i was able to make divine. Jesus after the skeletons, that fight is laughably easy.

These lords aren't living up to their names.

Now I have 100,000 souls and no clue what to do with them.

>>124407410
>You can just use the ASS,

I actually don't have enough faith for that. heh.

>>124407410
>>124405524
The best one is the Occult Club from Anor Londo reverted to Divine +5. Has low req and one shots the regular skeletons with a backstab.

>>124407763
You need to have faith to use your ass in that game?

Wow, it must sucks.

>>124404771
I usually put on high poise, bring lots of estus, and bait nito til' he's near the middle area(so I don't aggro the giant skellys). From that point, I just unload DPS upon him, like he's Four Kings v2.

>>124407939
>You need to have faith to use your ass in that game?

14. Only priest has that at the start.

>>124408390
So everyone else is forbidden of shitting and farting? That sucks.

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>fire arrows do less damage than standard arrows

>>124408634
your joke wasn’t funny to begin with, dude, don’t drag it

>>124408952
>what are resistances

>>124408952
>stick your arrow in tar baking it even more blunt than it already was
>light it on fire because fuck everything
>Y IT DEAL LESS DAMG?
Chosen Undead, certified retard

>>124409073
I like my own jokes, fuck you.

>>124408952
Defense stacks.
Fire arrows is stopped by physical defense+fire defense.

Soul level increases attack too right?

>>124410152
By itself, no.

So, my game started crashing my PC, it never happened until now. Is there a fix for this? I get that memory blue screen

How do I become more sorcerer-ish? Despite having 40 int and a witchtree staff+10, i seem to be relying on my magic longsword more. It just seems like a more reliable source of damage than casting spells.

How the fuck do I fight the 4 kings? I die in 2 hits. I can't orientate myself.

This is like the 10th time I fight them. The fight lasts like 20 seconds tops.

All the other Lords were total jokes, but these guys have me stumped.

>>124410789
If you have high burst damage, i.e. big fat weapons, dark bead, etc. You can put on Havel's armor, tank through the attacks while going all out on the bosses. The key is to kill one before the next one spawns.

>>124410789
Full havel.
2 hand whatever damaging weapons you have
Either that or spam fire whips

>>124410596
The game is built around melee, there's nothing you can do about it.
absolutely pure magic runs are near impossible at best and tedious at worst.
Accept it and use strong magic weapon or a no physical damage weapon

>>124411336
>>124411335

I did full havel and beat them. I just got sick of fighting them. Havel is basically cheating though.

How am I supposed to fight them?

>>124411336
So I should keep the staff in the offhand for buffing and the occasional long-range cheesing, huh. The magic-infused longsword seems to suit my needs well at the moment, but are there any weapons I should check out?

>>124411889
>Havel is basically cheating
Is that the secret to beat Aava?

Is the PS4 community for DaS2 completely dead?
>Have never been invaded by anyone expect an NPC
>Almost no summon signs anywhere

People have rated my messages, so there has to be some people.

>>124412071
over 3m SM is where you'll find most invasions, in drangleic castle, cadinal tower, iron keep and dlc

>>124411889
Lots and lots of rolling and hoping that they don't spam too much magic

>>124410596
Use the staff as a melee weapon

>>124411981
No. The secret to beat Aava is DODGE

>>124412871
Tried that. I avoid the first hit, but the second hits me and the third kills me. Same with Fume Knight.

>>124404771
>Nito
Alright, first of all, don't wander too deep into the cave because you'll aggro the giant skeletons. There are 4-5 lil skellingtons that'll rush at you, so you either 1-2 hit kill them (a weapon +10 should do it), have enough poise to walk beside them, or bring a divine weapon to stop them from reviving; Nito itself can damage them so he can kill them with the AoE spells for you during the fight, although they'll revive

>And I randomly get hit with some red thing that I can't predict.
Is not random, is a spell that Nito casts; you should hear a scream before the attack, so you'll have to time a roll between the scream and the attack
Don't forget to kindle the bonfire for estus for the initial fall damage

>>124412871
dont dodge to late. the hardest thing about aava is how she delays the attacks and catches you out of iframes

>>124412945
Dodge inside, bro. The second and third hits shouldn't get you at all even if you don't roll.

>>124410789
You really just need to learn his attack patterns and dodge, but don't play too scared since you are FUCKED if you end up fighting several of them at once.

Should I install DaS? I want to be cozy, this is important. I've been playing DaS2 since September.

>>124413170
>to
i need sleep

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>>124413630
ds1 will give you a headache if youre used to 2.
I guarantee it.

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Chain set under rated fashion wise.

It is sleek as hell. I use the body, and combine with something else typically. No helmet.

The other heavy armors tend to be really bulky.

>>124413630

Dark Souls is better than Dark Souls 2. Demon's Souls is better than either.

>>124407763
>These lords aren't living up to their names.
It's symbolic of his fall from power along with the rest of the gods.
See, the only difficult Lord Soul is __4kings___, and that's got meaning too.

>>124401389
>has ever gotten
No, he made it pretty clear.

>>124412071
Its not dead but it went down when the bloodborne dlc came out
>I wonder why

>>124414724
Yeah but Demon's Souls is dead.

>let's have Sif but add a bunch of fast little guys that inflict toxic!

>>124415036
and disable summoning

>>124413769
>Seath was turning women into Ayy so they would contact the Great Ones and grant him immortality

>>124415036
RRA is like Capra Demon, but in a bigger room and with some time to let you attack the rats, and he can actually stun his own dogs with his attacks unlike Capra.

>>124394109
>24 MARCH 2016

for all platforms?

>>124414883
>Yeah but Demon's Souls is dead.

I played last month. Got some invasions.

>>124415036
Let's make 'imaginative' and 'new' bosses for Dark Souls 3:

>Triple Pursuer

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>still no option to pre-order prestige edition

>>124415827
A large guy in armor wielding a sword and shield.
He does some long sweeps with the sword while following the player at a walking pace.

>>124415681
Read anon

発売日:
PlayStation(R)4、Xbox One(R):2016年3月24日(木)発売予定
Windows(R):2016年4月12日(火)発売予定

Holy shit. Why do my weapons degrade so fast in the Ivory King DLC?

>>124415827
>Lightning Smelter Demon
>Dark Smelter Demon
>Poison Smelter Demon
>Toxic Smelter Demon for a Challenge Area
>Bleed Smelter Demon
>Petrification Smelter Demon for a Challenge Area
>Curse Smelter Demon

>>124416012
i don't speak moonrunes mate

>>124414724
>Demon's Souls is better than either.
Yes
>Dark Souls is better than Dark Souls 2.
No, poise ruined DaS. World design doesn't save subpar gameplay. Get over it.

>>124416869
>poise ruined DaS
Kek.
>subpar gameplay
>compared to DaS2
Double kek.

>>124415874
Why would you preorder?

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>>124416858
There are numbers between the runes numbnuts

>>124416858
You don't need to be able to read Jap to understand that

PS4 and Xbox One in Japan release 2016/3/24

Windows and EU/NA release 2016/4/12

>>124417258
poisestabbing faggot clearly has no rebuttal, nothing new.

Fair Lady moves her lips when she talks. That makes her and Andre are the only ones in game to do that.

>>124417697
And Alvina

>>124417551
Idiot who couldn't counter a poisestab is still anally pained, nothing new.

>>124417697
I think every non-human-model does it, but I'm struggling to remember all the NPCs.
The snakes do it.

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>>124417258

>>124417947
Elizabeth too.

Oh wait.

>>124417947
I found a very easy counter to poisetabbing braindead gameplay, actually. I switched to a better game.

>>124417551

Epic.

>>124417258
Well Miyazaki seems to agree that poise was a mistake.
Considering how close DaS3 gameplay is to DaS2, you must be pretty mad that you're stuck with your dead game forEVER.

>>124418154
twitch.
tv/medkitz

>>124418135

I take it wasn't Dark Souls 2.

>>124418135
Lord of the Fallen?

>>124418337
Yeah. It was Scholar.

As someone who has played Dark Souls, Scholar of the First Sin and even Lords of the Fallen, but can't afford to buy a console for Demon's or Bloodborne, what's the next best thing? There has to be something, right?

>>124415827
Memory of the Queen: bossfight in Drangleic Castle throne room during the sunset, you fight pre-curse Sunlight Warrior Velstadt and Shieldbearer Raime, both are slightly tweaked versions of their present counterparts.

>>124418595
kill self

>>124417947
>I think every non-human-model does it, but I'm struggling to remember all the NPCs.
>The snakes do it.

Nope. Most don't. Those who do are the exceptions.

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>>124418289
Shh, you're gonna hurt their feelings.

Dark Souls 1 is the best game ever guise, it's simply the most epic of all epic games.

>>124418595
DaSIII

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>>124418595
This got me into DeS. Thank me later.

>>124418075
Hue.
I was going to post Elizabeth, since she's one of the only NPCs without a covered face.

Does Eingyi flap his gums?

>>124418289
And I don't agree with him.
Poise is a good system, and I dislike the insta-stagger/hyperarmor alternative.
Poisestabbing was an issue because people went full DSP instead of realising your opponent being able to soak a hit and retaliate is something you have to play around.

>>124418773
Most of the non-human-model NPCs that have visible faces?

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>>124418048
I don't need ugly pieces of burnt poo like that sitting beside my cute anime girl scales

>>124418907
That also happens to be better than any Souls game.

>>124395631
Cause low levs aren't fun. They just walk into your attacks.

>>124418773
Which is why there are people thinking Andre is Gwyn's son, since he's the only human actually speaking.

>>124419019
Not all of us here collect anime figurines to hot glue on family

>>124419028
That's not Beyond Two Souls
or Bleach, Dark Souls
or Murdered: Soul Suspect
or Titan Souls
or Blade and Soul

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>>124419150
But why? Are you gay?

>>124418656
why tho

>>124418869
Don't meme me, it's not there yet

>>124418907
>No PC version
RIP

>>124419220
Or Nomad Souls.

>>124419376
Or Mugen Souls.

>>124419028
Fuck yes.
This is how you tell a story.
'Reinforcements? I am the reinforcements.'
-Ash'cheeks' Riot

>>124419419
Or Reddit souls

>>124418595
If you can handle a slightly older game then Severance Blade of Darkness.

>>124399018
>Sunken king, Hard
Mildly challenging
>Fume knight OHKO's me
Learn his moves, up your adp to 30 if you're not already there
>Aava
Same as fume knight.

Just wait till you get to ivory and want that loyce armor, that's the true aneurysm inducer.

>>124419332
You're obviously neither gay or hetero. You want to fuck toys, you degenerate.

>that new trailer
Why are they recycling Freja into a setpeice gimmick boss? Wasn't she shitty enough the first time around?

>>124419589
Just tell him 105 agility through ATT/ADP

30 ADP is some retard suggestion

>>124419501
At least it had one.

Unlike souls games where we have to pretend that it has a story.

Also Miyzaki wishes he coud be Yasumi Matsuno. Too bad he retired.

>>124419337
Play it on emulator.
Looks beautiful with a cellshading effect, but isn't required. Aged like fine valens wine.

>>124419819
I'm pretty sure Miyazaki hides a paper notebook with the lore fully explained under his bed

>>124419819
>pretend that it has a story
They all have stories.
And I don't mean in the "read the description" sense, multiple characters talk to you about the story of the game as you progress.
The only way you could say they don't have a story is if you ignored NPCs.

>>124419681
What?

>>124420076
Considering the "lore" and "story" in the Bloodborne DLC retcons the main game, i'm conviced Miyzaki just make shit up as he goes along.

>>124420364
Demon's souls had a story

>DUDE DEMONS LMAO
>Kill them all.

Everything after DeS had a bunch of obscure bullshit that's supposed to make sense you really think about it, man.

Calling it now.
The final boss of Dark Souls 3 will be called The Dark Soul.

>>124420364
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjK5f7ozzOM
It's a giant legged boss invincible everywhere except a small weakpoint it at its front and protected by a horde of infinitely spawning mooks.

>>124420629
Any proofs?

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>>124420629
That would be very poetic

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>>124420687

>>124420673
Without an actual HUD, you can't say it's only got a weak point.
He hits it in the leg at one point, might be that the front bit just takes more damage, like the Gaping Dragon head.

>>124420617
>DUDE BELLS LMAO
>DUDE ANOR LONDO LMAO
>DUDE LORD SOULS AND MY DAD LMAO
>DLC: DUDE THE ABYSS LMAO
This is 4 NPCs.

>>124420617
>Everything after DeS had a bunch of obscure bullshit
I loved how DeS made the effort to explain miniscule things like your fucking character glow.
This whole 'time is convoluted' thing really bummed me out in DaS.

>>124420617
I wouldn't think too hard on the story of an exclusive I'd be paid to do

>>124420815
And that would kinda makes sense.

>DaS
>everything is about souls and humanity, and you can choose to let the dark soul run loose by not re-igniting the first flame

>DaS2
>Manus' dark soul caused trouble, and the undead curse resurfaces

I could totally see DaS3 having you facing the dark soul to finally end the undead curse.

>>124420617
>Considering the "lore" and "story" in the Bloodborne DLC retcons the main game

kek

it's not just a retcon. it creates a plot hole. somehow they managed to create a plot hole even though bloodborne's lore is really vague.

>>124420629
It's Dark Souls.
A recolored gank fight against the humanity sprites.

>>124420629
I'm betting on some sunlight/cinder boss, because you're just killing Lords of Cinder.

>>124421419
Care to explain?

I just started playing Demon's Souls.

Phalanx is dead and... now what? Do I try to get to Tower Knight and kill him? Getting through the bridge is a fucking chore and the tunnel below has these fucked up dogs in a tight corridor.

Also, where do I go now? Where do I get a good greatsword/katana?

>>124421656
if one area is too hard, try another
if all areas are too hard, kill self

>>124421656
1-2 is really easy, jesus

>>124421656
You can go back to the nexus and visit all the other archstones.

>>124421356
And at the end you die without respawning at a bonfire.

>>124421690
>>124421859
Isn't there a one good way? It isn't too hard but playing with an unupgraded long sword isn't very satisfying, aren't there any fun weapons around?

>>124421806
1-2 = Tower Knight?

>>124421614
the whole nature of the old blood, byrgenworth and the beasthood shit makes no sense anymore after the kos shit.

i'm too lazy to write a dissertation about it. just wait for a lore video or go ask /bbg/

>>124421931
You sacrifice yourself to free humanity from false gods, demons, and people whose humanity ran wild.

>>124421462
They keep spawning and you keep fighting them until they swarm you and you die.
Hell, I'd play it.

>>124422081
>false gods
Godhood is more complicated that real/fake REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>124422073
Can't wait for them to revert to 'it's just a dream, it doesn't have to make sense'

>>124396840
are you kidding? it looks like shit in dark souls 2

>>124416869
poise ruined das-knife user flipping ninja ring crybaby

>>124422385
The whole point of the Lovecratian setting is that there's no such thing as "just" a dream.

>>124418846
>when this webm is literally better than anything in ds2 pvp

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>>124422948
>tfw

DaS2 is just unsatisfying on pretty much every front. Even super minmax meta gameplay like this looks better.

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>>124422948
Let's compare a)...

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>>124423443
shitty PVP thread?

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>>124423443
...and b)

Could anyone help me out by placing a summon sign at Sinh? I want to kill him but the ass just keeps getting me at the most inopportune times.

>>124423614
>>124423714
loling out of my chair family

>>124423714
>Poochie died on the way back to his home planet

>>124423426
Are the quick Hornet swaps a macro or the guy actually doing it?
Because that's pretty impressive.

>>124421656
the penetrator sword is what you are looking for

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I'm a complete fag right now, aren't I?

>>124423793
Oh and, I'm at 29996771 soul memory. I'm a sunbro as well, if that matters. NG, no plus.

>>124423895

I'm pretty sure that's on a PS3, it's just muscle memory.

Why should I bother trying different kind of rods to use magic? Does the staff's stats change the spells?


Also, how's Lord of the Fallen?

>>124393962
So all my friends finally get DS1, and I've been playing it through it with them and we've all been having a blast. Problem.
I have over 700 hours in this game, never had multiplayer connection problems before, and now suddenly out of the blue I can't get a single connection to anybody. I can't summon, be summoned, invade or be invaded. They can see my summon sign, but it always fails. What gives? My internet is fine, this just happened last night from nowhere and I figured it'd be fixed by tomorrow but alas no

>>124424239
Certain rods let you use multiple schools of magic with the same weapon. Others have better scaling on a specific damage type too. Casting speed matters too. There's a lot to consider.

>>124423975
>prolapse shield
Fag detected.

>>124424239
>Also, how's Lord of the Fallen?

Bad, an Anon made a good comparison to the Souls series by saying DaS2 is Lords of the Fallen done right. Think about that.

>>124423981
I've got 273k sm, just put my sign down. If you want we could use the same god on the ring.

>>124424563
muh stamina. It's not like I block anyway.

>>124424463
Basically the game is saying: fuck off normalfag

you should listen

>>124424650
I don't give a fuck about mememasters "xDDD DS2 is shit amirite guise".

>>124424665
Er, I mean 2.7m sm

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>>124423975
>piss poor defence
>have to switch off of shield to cast magic
>one weapon
>18 fucking vigor
10/9 would slam like a nerd

Gwyn and all the other lords started as hollows. Everyone did. The Furtive Pygmy was a Hollow too, and he just got a different lord soul that instead of giving him cool powers, led to humans.

>>124425081
>not rolling
>using shields to block
valid criticism
>not rolling

>>124425128
no

>>124423975

2 has such cool and varied armor. And you can have beards! I'm jelly.

The character maker in 1 has beard options but it doesn't do much of anything other than stubble.

>>124425160
>rolling
if you can't roll punish you deserve to lose

>>124422610
There's not even any recovery in DaS. At least the guy had to lift the mace on his shoulder before using it again.

>>124425182

it's true. the lords are nothing special. They're just dudes who found lord souls in the fire.

>>124423714
Oh god hahaha. I don't remember still winning that invasion. Priceless.

>>124425453
theyre not Hollows though

>>124424665
Sorry, took a dump. You still there?

>>124425534
Then what are they, because they look a lot like mindless Hollows before they get the souls.

>>124425565
I've put it down again. Just helped some guy named ftvftv.

Wearing name-engraved for Nehma

Do people actually hit with the halberd 2h r1's in Ds2? pvp of course. The running one hand is generally what I can connect with.
Any tips using a halberd?

>>124425725
Can't see it. Damn shame. I'm right at the bonfire and I only see the Abbess sign.

>>124424239
>Lords of the Fallen?
It's -different-.
You know how people say that DS2's bosses are all 'big dudes with big weapons'? It literally applies to LotF, and most of the bosses simply aren't -that- great. The levels are very interconnected, though, and most normal enemies are pretty fun to fight, and have quite a few attacks.
More story, quite a few secrets and challenges (some of the challenges are very fun and engaging, actually).
Most enemies are easy as soon as you figure out how to handle them, even though the same could be said about Dark Souls, and it feels as if rolling is a lot easier.
tl;dr: Give it a try, but don't expect a game that's better than Dark Souls. Still fun to play it once, though.

>>124425814
Eddie should be there too. If you get 3 phantoms with you the fight is cake, boss ai is shit for that many. In my experience it's also easy if you go it alone and just learn his attacks. Last time I did him I was alone.

>>124423614
>babby's trying to be reactive but his opponent won't let him

>>124425937
I only have Edde and Abbess. No one else.

>>124425789
you gotta predict what your opponent is gonna do and use the appropriate move to punish them

if people try getting in your face then there's not much you can do, use an offhand or whatever

>>124426004
Where are you located? I'm in kentucky so maybe it's a region thing. I could turn that off even though there will be lag.

>>124426120
Sweden

>>124425128

I think Gwyn was hollow when you meet him. He doesn't say anything to you. Out of all the characters he really should.

>>124426149
Turned on cross-region play, then quit and restarted the game. Make sure cross-region play is on for you and you have the ring set to Nehma

>>124426346
Aight, hold on. I didn't even have such a ring.

>>124426438
The sexiest npc in Majula sells it

Ds2 maces were some shit quality. I hope Ds3 makes them a fitting weapon for my righteous paladin.
Subscribe please.

>>124426513
really? i thought she only sold upgrade materials

>>124426706
>Still no chain and ball flails
Fucking shit ass piece of trash game

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> Darkstalker Kaathe is the most important NPC in the entire game
>one of the only ones who sit the player down and explains what is going on
>ending of the game makes zero sense unless you talk to him
>is incredibly easy to miss

Dark Souls fans will defend this.

If I user herbs, is a hex based build viable in the DLC for DaS2?
I'd rather use minimum requirements for weapons like a broadsword or something and use hexes.

Or would the entire game be better as a quality with a bow/crossbow for ranged?

Can anyone tell me how I can get summoned for boss fights in Ds2? I checked the fast travel screen for locations with an orange border because someone told me those are the places with the most activity or whatever. Put a sign down in front of Ruin Sentinels but nothing happened for like half an hour. Am I doing something wrong? Should I switch locations? Where to? Currently at 380k sm.

>>124426893
>any serpent
>telling the true

>>124426839
Fucking whips, but no flails.
Why?

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What did /dsg/ think about the bloodborne DLC?
I haven't progressed much, I've done the first area and I'm stuck at Ludwig.

I kept hearing about how awesome the DLC is but so far I'm not seeing this. The level design is not very good, they literally took the cathedral ward and reskinned it. The enemies are pretty boring as well. Some of them are exact copies (villagers, dogs, old yharnam monsters, crows) and the rest are just NPCs with some cool weapons.
Frankly it seems that it's more difficult than it should be. Most monsters take ages to kill and do way too much damage, although that may be my low level (lvl 52).

Ludwig is kinda overrated, his first phase is the typical bloodborne boss, aka overly aggressive hideous beast. His second phase is pretty cool though. Still, he's not nearly as good as gehrman, artorias, alonne, FKA etc.

Did you like the DLC? Does it get better after ludwig?

>>124427145
Nobody is fighting the Sents because there's a petrified shit in front of them. You should go to another area. Saltfort will give you summons, the great portion of huntsman's copse until earthen peak is also guaranteed summon around that SM.

>>124427356
Thank you ^_^

Thank you for the help, Wanderer! \o/

That's a good Sunbro emote right

>>124427309
Maybe you should as /bbg/

>>124427309
Why are you asking /dsg/ about bloodborne

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>Skeleton Lords

Why was that even a boss battle?

>hurr just run around and kill the skeletons
>by the way, here's two wheel skeletons to totally catch you off guard after you kill everything

>>124427309
The area after Ludwig is literally tower of latria meets the dukes archives and the final one is amazing. Once you gitgud and get past ludwig, you'll see.

>>124426893
>you were the dark soul ALL ALONG Chosen One.

>>124427783
Because everyone loves skeletons.

>>124398347
Stand just outside of their aggro range and do a leaping attack with a big weapon. I remember my upgraded Claymore could take them out in one jumping attack when I buffed it with great magic weapon.

>>124427783
Same thing with those 3 mage faggots and their army of cripples in Tseldora

>>124427607
>>124427643
they are sony fanboys, you guys are probably more objective when it comes to bloodborne.

>>124428029
People here are biased against it because they don't want to buy a ps4.

>>124427783
Difficulty-wise, it's designed to be fight literally right after the dragonrider with an unupgraded weapon. It's just a basic horde management tutorial. Originally, it spawned like 6 wheel skeletons when you killed the caster, but they made it easier and instead made the first one you kill spawn a horde of normal skeletons.

>>124424650
Have a link or something?

>DES HAD A GREAT SOUNDTRACK GUYS I SWEAR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBVgcgIeD_g

>>124428340
>DAS HAS A GREAT SOUNDTRACK GUYS I SWEAR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3K1l3_W7TA

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>>124428340

Can I get the composite bow without the new londo seal?

I've recently been running around the 4 kings trying to learn the timing for rolling into the magic explosion attack and rolling out of the grab attack.
After 10 minutes of easily running around them I realized: could the 4kings actually be a boss fight meant for ranged attacks ?
There's a composite bow and the wizard blacksmith not too far, they're in a fuck huge room and the explosion and grab attack seems to indicate you shouldn't get too close to them, as for their range attacks, they're laughable.
I've never did a magic or bow run tho, so i'm not sure.

So let me try to understand DS's lore for a second, and you faggots can tell me if I'm right.

There exists a land -- we don't know if it's a planet, another dimension, or etc -- but this land is cursed to repeat itself. Life is linked to fire, time repeats itself and is wonky, great souls live on through their power/will and go on to be reincarnated. The curse means that, as long as the fire is alive, you will not die, but your will to live will, and your humanity will slowly drain away and you'll end up being a zombie that only thinks on instinct, lost to time and themselves. Out of those people, there exists one who's will and power are strong enough to make it to the throne and end the cycle, this is the dark soul.

What I don't understand is, can you leave this land? How do you get the dark sign, just by entering? Is it a dream? Where do the dragons come in for all of this?

>>124428905
if you try hard enough maybe

its not like Ingward is an important NPC anyways

>>124428905

Yes.

>>124428990
You didn't play the first game, did you?

>>124428905
Yes.

>>124428495
not really good but it shakes my colon and anus, so it works.

>>124429079
I just don't remember it kek

>>124428905
Valley of Drakes

>>124428917
You what? Why would you do that? I doubt you could even kill one King fast enough with a bow to not get gangraped since bows in general are kinda shit. Just make a +15 Claymore or some other good weapon and beat their shit up.

Are daggers good counters to longsword's/rapiers in Ds2? Are is the range to small to be effective?
If so, how could I make a dagger a damaging item using a faith build?

>>124429180
no, you just go to the seal building

>>124429306
Use a fucking shield. Shields are broken as fuck.

>>124429257
you sound like you never managed to fight more then 1 king at once.

>>124429609
No where does that answer my question.
I guess youre saying shields doing shield things are broken?

>>124429908
Shields are good counters to longswords and rapiers in Ds2. There, happy?
There are literally no downsides to use a shield to block attacks. Specially since running attacks deal shittons of poise damage so you don't have to worry about being poise counterhit by a Katana Shitter or a LSS faggot.

It gets even worse when you learn block canceling. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXpT_xNd_2U&feature=youtu.be

whats the meta these days?

>>124430372
having fun

I hope I can make 2hus in DaS III

>>124429667
Didn't mean to come off as snarky or anything, but the fight is a race against time and doing some cutesy thing with a bow doesn't seem viable in that regard. You can either cheese with with a red tearstone + power within pyromancy/magic build, or you can learn the patterns and how to avoid their attacks while still having enough confidence to hit the King at every opportunity instead of waiting around for the next attack you need to dodge. Just keep trying, be patient and eventually you will be able to do it.

>>124394608
>implying you can be fat in Souls games, or any RPG

>>124430372
get SL 250+ and do arena because there is no matchmaking

enjoy killing people in two hits while their maxed builds need 6 backstabs to kill you

>>124429257
Not him, but, I beat their asses on my bow only run with a +15 composite.

>tfw there will never be an item or armor set that turns you into a skeleton so you can meme around in invasions like the malignant tumor you are

just baka desu senpai 100 100

>>124430230
Thank you. I'll put this info to good use.

>>124425445
did you forgot that the guy rolled after the attack? it's not like this if you don't roll

>>124431340
>Large lower body
>Not fat
Sure

>>124431556
This would be a fun idea. Chameleon but with enemies.

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>mfw trying to farm Loyce souls

I WANT TO KILL MYSELF AAAAAA

>>124426893
>what is frampt
>what is link the fire ending

What kinds of builds/weapons do I want for a weapon-buff build in DaS2?

I just replayed DaS 1 with a dex/int magic weapon (later cmw) build and it was strong as heck, but from what I know about DaS 2 (almost nothing) it doesn't seem like (Crystal) Magic Weapon is going to do shit unless I have a magic weapon already

>>124432102
lowest possible base stats for weapon, infuse it toward the buff you want to use.