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Previous Thread: >>124313613

>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit

>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.
- Check your ping with the servers: http://cloudharmony.com/speedtest-latency-for-aws:ec2-us-east-1

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.

>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5

>iCBT2 Sign-Up (Closed): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.

>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Wednesday, December 9th, 23:00 PM (EST).

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Tree of Savior is somewhat unique in that the games translation is heavily supplemented by fan contributions provided at IMC's offical Github. Is this genius or laziness? It's both!

>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0
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>>124356660
the recipe itself is easy to get but farming for masks kind of sucks I guess, people are buying them for like 25k each. On the bright side they spawn in Dina Bee Farm and the maps around it so you could grind on them while you farm your mats
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Second for ded gaem.
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Warlocks are cute.
CUTE!
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I'll pet you next time I'm not in a rush, Honey
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Still no featherfoot skills info.
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nth for likes being displayed across all servers.

My Zemyna likes are showing on gabigabi.
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>>124357496
looks like the slut brigade has all gathered
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>>124357496
That changes eventually. Mine was like that, but after a while it erased them and my friend list and started fresh. I think restarting the client will trigger it
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first for Featherfoot skills never ever,
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Goodnight /tosg/ I love you.
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>>124357496
Everytime I see these screenshots I see fucking Choja talking in shout.
Can't that whore ever shut up
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>like
>run away
>get liked back anyway
That's cheating.
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>>124357758
>liked someone
>don't get liked back
10:1 ratio forever
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>>124357654
Too bad I don't.
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>Another Like&Dash

Are these people asking me to bully them?
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>>124357912
Will your name be displayed even when you like through /memberinfo and nowhere near close to the other person?
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>>124358032
Considering >>124357758 posted, he probably knew I gave him a like.
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Does hitting the anvil with a skill instead of a normal attack affect success in any way?
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THE DEED IS DONE.
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Looking to buy kisses.
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>>124358293
Swelling them before hitting doubles the success rate
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>>124358293
Resurrecting the anvil will ensure a perfect upgrade.
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>>124358380
1m?
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>>124358315
This is you isn't it?

You're just postponing it.
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>>124358458
1 silver
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>>124358293
these sounds legit >>124358421 >>124358452 but whatever you do, never use EQ Lv 15 at it. that skill is so stronk.. your anvil and item will be destroyed
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>>124358492
Damn it. I wish I'd thought of that.
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>>124358421
Wait, can you swell anvils? I remember you could telekenesis them and fuck people over. Can you use that spear stab on them?
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Hatsumi thought she could do the log-out trick but wasn't fast enough.
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>>124358660
s t o p
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>>124358492
>change name to something hard to type
>like
>log off
>logs on later and change back to something else
you will never know who I am
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>>124358293
smite the anvil it ensures higher success
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Send Rank 7 skill gifs
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>>124358492
>Thinking you don't have your own like and dashers
I got you right when you were teleporting.
Not technically a like and dash but you weren't there any more right after I did it so I'm counting it.
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The heck is Hauberk doing here?
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>>124358942
New model and everything. Guess I'll do what he says but he doesn't even give EXP Cards.
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>>124358942
He looks different.
What did Vakarine do to him.
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>>124357392
>Second for ded gaem.
There's really no alternative so even if ToS is flawed, there's literally no upcoming mmo with a class system that even comes close to the game.
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>>124358942
>furry shit
dropped
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Anyone have that image with the full meme armor set?
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>>124359110
Nothing, this is technically before the Demon Prison.

This is his updated model/artwork.
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Is it worth it to go Sadhu2 just for possession?

If not, what alternatives for a non OOB nuker cleric?
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Paladins are such a letdown.
Literally useless without Daino.
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Any pictures of female templar? I know for a fact that we'll get a female guildmaster
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Here's his model with colours.

>>124359315
Check last thread.
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>>124359227
So they're going to explain how he got inside that mage? (and then killed it to transform back and then wanted to possess you in the same way)
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>>124359315
There's some in the old thread. A lot of people don't like it but I think it's great.
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>>124359315
I'm gonna try to rush to templar on release I think to make the /vg/ guild.
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>>124359405
Oh ya? Good to hear. I want it to be one of us rather than new blood that comes in on release. I'm sure there will be plenty of good folks, but lots of autists too.
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>>124359382
mfw there are people who actually read and care about a MMO's lore.
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Any new item tiers for weapons/armors? I know lv15/40/70/120/170 but is there new ones?
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>>124359481
Is it okay if I'm a kissposter?
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I dunno Hauberk, you kind of betrayed me in Demon Prison.

>>124359382
He said that his spirit was shattered into a thousand pieces and he's searching for it all. This is but one of his many fragments that someone has accepted, and he's using them to find his soul fragments.
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>like and dashing
Why is everyone so shy?
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So it seems those impossible to dodge magic attacks actually hit you as soon as the mob casts them, before the damage is registered.
I was running along when a mob threw a fireball at me. I got the warning that my armor was down to 30% right when it threw it. Well before the thing actually chased me down.
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>>124359557
Yes so long as you're a good leader. Ever lead a guild before? Let alone a /vg/ circus?
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>>124359557
it's fine there will be three guilds anyway enjoy being head of that one
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>>124359481
If you've ever played other MMOs with /vg/, like FFXIV or TERA, then you'll know what I mean when I say:

I would much, much, MUCH rather the /vg/ guild leader be an actual, literal autist. Especially if the alternative is an ERPing kissposter or a wannabe normie.
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>>124359559
>We only freed a few on mage tower.
>Hauberk will find us and take revenge for what we've done.
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>>124359559
>>124359647

Forgot picture.
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>>124359484
I loved reading Lineage 2 lore. All those zones were with their history were great. Can't say the same about any other MMO I played afterwards.
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Making a Sword 3 > Rodelero 3 > Templar on release
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>>124359628
Yes I have, it was the largest on my server. Everyone called me mom, it was endearing.
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>>124359575
>go to try it
>theyve already fucked off

Okay. Fine
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>>124359689
>this guy fucked one of the godesses
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>>124359608
Yes, magic attacks are completely unavoidable. Your only hope is to kill/stun/kd the mob before it does anything.
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Maybe this is why he was such a pushover in Demon Prison?
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>>124359840
Don't know how it is with anything else but a frozen mob can still cast magic.
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>>124359641
I've been in and officered quite a few, I know what you mean. We should hope for a healthy mix though. Best leader I had was the /gw2g/ guild one, but they quit. They knew when to pull the leash but also that it was a 4chan guild and to relax. Worst I had was the Wildstar "WildBoyz" one, he brought all his autistic friends along and it was like the worst parts of CoD Bros mixed with autistic shitposters.

What I'm saying is the autism must be in balance. A bit of ERP, a bit of shitpost, a bit of autism, and a bit of normie.

>>124359749
Which game?
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>>124359559
Plot twist, the dreams of Lamia revelators had were caused by him in order to eventually meet them and get them to put his body back together. The revelations you're collecting that were made of pieces of Lamia are also parts of him he made under an alternate appearance since he knew he'd be torn apart one day.

You'll be faced with the choice of whether to fully restore Hauberk or to put the pieces back into that wandering barefoot vessel that was used for "Laima".
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>>124359641
>wanting another stall

Best thing that faggot did was give catatonic lead
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>/tosg/ gets a guild with its own guild hall
>nowhere for like dashers to hide
>they get hunted down, surrounded and kiss raped
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>>124359840
You can avoid Magic attack with Rodelero's Slithering skill.

http://webmshare.com/play/oKDzo
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>>124359870
>soul stone
Literally Diablo
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>>124359924
TERA, it was one of the more populated servers before the merge. I got vanarch and everything.
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>Pull him out!
Hm.

Also you give back his soul stone after you let him reunite with his soul here.
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>>124359960
Normies shitposting like they're 70 IQ monkeys from /v/ and /pol/ is disgusting.

>>124360000
That entire guild should just die. Every single person in it is a 70 IQ monkey trying too hard to be a normalfag.
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Thoughts on Priest 2 > Krivis 2 > Druid 1 for a hybrid support/dps char? I want to be useful in group while still not retardedly useless solo.
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>>124360154
Ah, I couldn't get into TERA. With the talk of old /vg/ guilds I was hoping I'd re-unite with old friends
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>>124359575
>>124359765
I had to move on and actually level this character. It's a long road ahead of me.

I hope you people still like me after I become a stupid useless Rodelero.
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>>124360068
that was my plan all along.
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>>124360267
>class 15 before level 15
What.
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>>124360068
>Templars can summon members to guild hall
>proceed to kissrape them
>can't leave until he's satisfied
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>>124360203
I agree 100%.


Infact, that faggot solid begs literally everyone to come back and play that god awful game every day
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>>124360218
pretty nice but heal and cure not doing damage against flying really pisses me off
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>>124360453
Is that one other attention whore still pretending to be a girl? I stopped paying attention to the general when I stopped playing.
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>>124358839
Already posted what I got as webm in previous thread.
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>>124357306
Dracula?
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>>124360382
>Battle Orders
Obvious buff, probably party wide with a bonus if they're guild members

>Blistering Thrash
Attack, tied to the guild as well. Maybe guild members nearby follow up?

>Mitigate Penalty
I have no idea. Maybe affects dungeon lockouts from the icon?

>Decrease Craft
Could be any number of obvious things. Crafting time, crafting materials, chance to succeed upgrades

>Warrior Call
Summons guild members (party members too?)

Let's speculate /tosg/.
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>>124360382
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>>124360519
Zaibas for flying, as well as auto (boosted by blessing/sacrament).
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>>124360528
Depends which? Saber? Yes, voice changer and all, could? Think its actually a land whale. It comes into the voip every now and then and pipes up a word or two and then shuts its mouth afterwards
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>>124360152
Is it really that surprising? The lore is pretty diabloy.
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There will be no lewdposting while I'm in the /tosg/ guild. It will be a clean and pure environment for us to grow and become strong.
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>>124359554
220
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>>124360573
Blistering Thrash is clearly a Falconer C2 skill.

Battle Orders and Call are definitely Templar skills.

Mitigate Penalty and Decrease Craft may be Squire or Templar skills. (Mitigate Penalty looks to be Squire, but Decrease Craft looks to be Templar.)

Look at the icon prefixes.
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>>124360218
Might as well grab krivis 1 and pardoner 1 for the aoe cure2. You know, for those debuffs cure cant cure and without waiting for your dumb as shit team mates to step on the square. Just pules a fucking 30 second cooldown cure
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>>124360519
Could get a level of Bokor instead of Druid for that Effigy spam, whatchuthink?
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>>124360360
Grinding to 15 does that. THe cards give you slightly more level than class level exp
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>>124360687
Oh, I just assumed they were all Templar skills from the context of the post.
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Can alchemist's roasts their alts gems on the same account?
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>lewdposting on the rise as beta draws to a close
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>>124360837
Is there any reason they wouldn't?
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>>124360837
Yes

Pardoners can get donations from themselves too
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>>124360837
Does it work the same as Squire weapon maintenance?
Open shop > switch character > use shop
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>>124360716
Cure 2 seems situational.
Zaibas AOE is nice (and Daino 10 will help as I have a shitload of buffs).
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>>124360989
Did i forget to mention it clears literally everything? Im talking telekinesis, stuns, bleeds, burns, poisons, doom.

Also, you can craft your party dispellers too. At cost its only like 600 per
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>>124358673
Oh, that's good info. I didn't know exactly what the calculations where, but I did know we got damage penalties vs higher lvl mobs (which is a pretty dumb mechanic with the exp rate we got)
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Anyone want some awakenings while I sit here and wait for attributes?
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>>124360583
Not to be that guy, but I'mma need sauce on that. Nothing is popping up on any search.
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>>124360583
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>>124360267
Anon as my rodolero failed because I went pelt2 and nobody is doing dungeons, I give you my support and help on gabija. Just pm me.
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>>124361050
I see.
How does Simony work btw in regard to skill levels?
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>>124361234
Name?
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>>124361379
Shieruu.
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>>124361297
Simony level and skill level are taken into consideration.

Skill level: 5
Simony level: 1

Scroll max level is 1

Skill level 1
Simony level 5

Scroll max is 1.

Other than that, of those classes, only cure, monstrance, daino, zalciai and aurukas are craft able into scrolls.
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How do I hunter? Been leveling up rush dog and the one that adds your pet atk. Str and dex right? Im level 50 and in tenet chapel now.
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>>124360241
Sorry to disappoint!
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>>124361406
Thanks.
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>>124361652
Mm, no problem
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New enemy, seems like another Demon Lord.
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>>124361706
Why are all the Klaipeda Demon Lords cute while Orsha gets abominations?
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>>124361706
Looks like the first few CBTs just got half the story?
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Wugushi does pretty decent single target damage huh. I guess that's why they say it's a good boss killing class. Boss is 175 instance boss.
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>>124361413
Upgrade your weapon and Reroll :^)
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>>124359129
You can always go back to RO
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>>124361413
I've been in your shoes.

I made mine full DEX, up until around 200 DEX, at which point I started going STR instead.

Just make sure your pet is always fed and it should be easy.

What level is your pet right now?
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>>124361950
A3 W3?
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>>124362102
A3 W2, but will be W3 once I class up.
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No one warned me about this
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>>124362084
Level 27 somehow while I'm level 50, how the fuck do you get into the pet menu? I cant seem to click the fucker using mouse control.
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>>124361950
That damage doesn't look like anything special to be honest
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>>124361950
That's pretty average.
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>>124362181
It looks better and more reliable than my pyro sorc damage.
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>>124361950

>doddler

wtf
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>>124362149
You should be able to right-click your pet. If you can't, try zoning to another map.
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These enemies have great animation. It's a shame this boss is very annoying.

Also, HONK. https://my.mixtape.moe/jhrpiv.webm
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>>124362149
F9.

If your pet is that low, I would SERIOUSLY advice you to quit now.

The usefulness of the Companion only lasts as long as the thing is above monster's level. Unless you have a pet from another character that's AT LEAST, don't dare running a Hunter.

As long as monsters are under, or at least the same level as your pet, it's pretty much invulnerable. Not because it doesn't die when the HP is 0, but because nothing ever hits it, and if they do, the damage ridiculously low. Those things are sturdy as fuck.

But their usefulness goes out the window onsters are 15 levels above them. They start dying to one hit, which caused them to forget their current given order and lose all their STA. Without STA, they become slow and unresponsive. Pretty much useless.

Mine was 133 when I made my Hunter. I got to 195 Hunter3 Falconer with my pet at 175. Stuff at the last few maps was killing my pet with a single slap. I was already over the 186 exp wall though, so it was easy after that point.
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Quickening level 2 on the TS. It's a bit faster I think. When I get to level 5 I'll get a Necro to help me test it on their skeletons, it should be more visible like that. I really hope this isn't a super minor increase, considering it's only auto attacks as far as I know it should be pretty substantial.

>>124361640
It's okay anon. I'm sure we'll be friends when the guild comes around

>>124362359
Those lucky Koreans
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>>124362405
Well fuck. I'll try to level up the pet first then since I got time for some painful archer class tree. The pet was actually quite useful though, hitting some with 400-500 damage in there.
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>>124362334
Is that weird? Of course I'd try tree of savior.
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>>124362315
Then you must have pretty shit gear or not know what you are doing because I do that dungeon pretty much daily on my Pyro/Sorc and that damage doesn't look very impressive. Seems to be about equal to what Flame Ground and 1 Fireball would do. Add your other spells and Temple Shooter's S Skill alone already taking off 1/4-1/3 of the bosses health and it pales in comparison. And that's not even a class that's particularly good at boss'ing.
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>>124361950
It doesn't scale though
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>>124362634
Needle Blow and Gu Pot both scale off attack. Wugong Gu and Zhendu don't, but you can still improve them with elemental damage.
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>>124362426
"Oh shit a trap, I must kill it!" Best AI ever.

>>124362619
I actually want to see a pyro/sorc with low ping kill a boss.
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>>124362359

they should allow sound on webms outside of /b/.
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>>124362703
Maybe our new japanese overlord will allow it, someone should ask him.
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>>124362703
please no
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>>124362703
did you mean /gif/ and /wsg/ or does /b/ allow sound webms too now?
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>>124362803

why not?
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>>124363028
I realize I'm one of the few people that feel this way but I've always preferred 4chan as an image board. I feel having full on videos, with sound, is just a bad fit.
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I'm going falconer c2 when the iobt starts and you can't stop me!
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Anyone know how to activate the 3 globes in Residence of the Fallen Legwyn Family to open the treasure chest? I solved the rotating statues and lighting up candles but have no clue for the one on the left of the map (closest to anti gravity portal). Does the Assistance something machine do anything? I can't talk to it at all...
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>>124363264
As long as the ads won't start flying when I open a webm, I'm fine with it.
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>>124363298
>open the treasure chest
Just wait at the anti gravity circle till the top of the hour.
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What do you get from the 160 dungeon? Just hats?
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>>124363409
I got up to the treasure chest but it says I need to complete all 3 puzzles to open it. Probably they fixed it?
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>>124363409
So all the other 'puzzles' are bait that do absolutely nothing? Can you just stand at the chest on the top of the hour and open it, or do you have to explicitly take the gravity circle up?
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>>124363598
>>124363621
You need to take the gravity circle up to get the buff that lets you open the chest.

Not sure what all the other stuff is for, if anything.
I know there's an event with glowing balls of light but I think, with no basis, that it's just on a timer.
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>>124362334
>>124362596
>implying you're the real doddler
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>>124363437
One anon in a previous thread said h e got a shovel.
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>Orsha isn't a demon side town
Well what's the fucking point of having different starting areas then?
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>>124362334
>>124362596
>>124363776
I know doodler is trying ToS and that he posts on Reddit. Didn't think he was a 4channer though.
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>>124363675
>>124363621
The other puzzles are probably for grinding if all it needs is waiting at the anti gravity circle since they spawn a lot of mobs.
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>100 levels into Orsha
About time the story started connecting.
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>>124363903
Different low level stuff. Split factions are awful, all they serve to do is segment the playerbase. In a non-PvP focused game it's a fucking terrible idea, and even in a PvP game it has its pros and cons. WoW made it popular and it only worked in WoW because of the lore and the enormous playerbase.
Splitting the players in ToS would be a death sentence.
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>>124363945
And here we find Goddess Lada, another trapped Goddess.
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>>124364269
Nice tits.
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>>124364269

Goddess Lucy Wilde.
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>>124364269
The only good goddess is a goddess trapped in my basement
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>>124364269
>>124364430
Reminds me of Dark Souls.
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>>124364448
Kinda looks like her
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>Decide to solo the 175 dungeon
>Didn't check the time
>4 am lag

This is going to be longer than I thought.
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So question, I could have sworn multishot was not affected by aoe attack ratio... but it definitely looks like it's affected here.
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>>124361215
(C87) [Shoot The Moon (Fuetakishi)] High Elf × High School
something
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>>124364269
Vakarine dethroned. This is now the best goddess.
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>>124364680
Whoa, did they buff archer?
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>>124364846
I'm using Vubbe Fighter gloves to get aoe attack ratio of 2 (it gives +2 but archer has 0 normally). I guess... against small monsters, that's enough to hit more than one target with Multishot?
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>>124364680
>>124364890
Multishots can natively hit more than 1 target if I'm not mistaken.
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>>124364680
I wonder if i can multiattack with Oblique/Stone
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>>124364680
now try without the glove.
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>>124364680
AFAIK from 220~ levels of archer so far multishot hits 1 target BUT if more than one is in it it'll alternate hitting them.

You're still doing the same amount of shots.
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The heck is Beholder doing here?
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>>124365274
Beholding, stupid
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>Gooks still haven't given us information

Selfish shit blood slant eyed grey skinned little sluts
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I'm about to do a rush to 200. I will post images and webm's if players here are interested at all in the progress and how quickly I can achieve this
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>>124364890
Small monsters have 1.0 ADR so with 2 AAR you will be able to hit both, if it affected Multishot. It certainly looks that way.
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>>124365429
Absolutely. Poop sock hard and time the whole thing. Keep track of your route. I believe in you.
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>>124364680
>>124364890
Tested on kcbt with vubbe gloves. LV5 multishot. Doesn't seem to work. 6 hits total.

Can you test more?

>>124364935
Stone does have a 2ndary hit for about half the damage to a target close to the primary one. Neither Oblique or Stone scale with ratio.
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>>124365429
ICBT? No one cares. Now if you rush to rank 7 on KCBT I'd be interested in it.
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>>124365559
I think those Magicians are medium sized.
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The next part of this quest line involves you finding a huge statue of Goddess Laima.

Interacting and continuing with the quest however causes a crash, so I guess Orsha is done for now.
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>>124365139
>>124365225
>>124365434
Yeah it's definitely caused by aoe attack ratio. I made an incredibly shitty video that shows how it works after putting on vubbe fighter gloves. It only works on small monsters, any medium or large monsters only take 1 hit. I tested with the little critters in demon prison 1 without a weapon on and it seems to work there too.
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>>124365983
This means multishot is incredible if you could somehow stack enough AAR. Circling could also help.
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>>124366074
Circling should make it work on mobs of any size... might be worth testing.
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>>124365983
Disregard, I forgot there was a bug with Aoe Attack Ratio where for some reason you have to leave map put them on then rejoin map to see it and it only checks it on map join.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6onLWg_kVk

In the spirit of archer testing:

Full Draw spreads Wugong Gu. This gives you two initial targets with which to spread the poison. Hitting one skewered target appears to spread the poison on both. I'm using Wugong Gu 1 and you can see it spreading to 2 other targets.
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Another cool map movement feature.

>>124366185
Full Draw seems to duplicate many effects on Skewed targets, like Time Bomb Arrow.
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>>124366179
What do you mean, disregard? It clearly does 16 hits without, 32 with.
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>>124366265
It's really creepy how your character always looks at the screen
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>>124366074
Falconer is suddenly decent tier
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>>124366298
I meant disregard my previous post responding to someone, I chose the wrong one sorry.
I meant:
>>124365225
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>>124366265
Yeah, I think Wugushi's poisons might be the best use of Full Draw's effect. You could do both Ranger and Wugushi and spread both effects, since skew lasts a long time, but the mobs would probably die before then.
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>manually entering an awakening portal as the alchemist who cast it will disconnect you
That quality.
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>>124364674
Well it took about an hour. 40-50 sp/hp pots. 2 deaths. But I did it.
Leveled up from 187 to 189, no class levels though.
Not sure if that was worth it.
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>>124366152
I have a falconer, but I can't test this right now
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>>124365983
>>124366298
Perhaps there's a threshold for medium and large size monsters?
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>>124366532
People have been speculating that mobs of different sizes have different aoe defense ratio. I saw one mention 1/1.5/2 for small medium large, but I haven't looked into it myself.
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>>124366532
>>124366603
Tomorrow I'll test it if I remember. Shrink body will make it pretty simple to test.
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>>124365983
Do you have a Gladiator Band to test this with, too?
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>>124366823
I don't, no. Anyone who's an archer that has one should be able to test though.
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Good night /tosg/. Remember, beta group screenshot in about 13 hours. I'll miss you
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How many enemies does high anchoring penetrate through?
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This is the last part of the Orsha quest you can do for now. It's an orb the hands of a giant Laima statue.

I wonder what happens next.
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>>124367071
Enough to include your waifu
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Here's Plague Doctor's costume.

It seems Plague Doctor has Kabbalist's class emblem, and vice versa.
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>>124367073
Who the fuck would pick the scenery in our starting area over this? Why the fuck did they save all the good stuff for this beta where people might have already formed negative opinions because they just gave us the mundane shit?

What the fuck
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>>124367071
Not enough to be worth getting
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>>124365983
Tested on small mobs on kcbt, seems like it works though the monsters died in 3 hits.

>>124366074
>>124366152
>Circling
Yeah sure if it didn't have a cooldown of 75 seconds.

>>124367071
High anchoring hits everything in it's path up to 5+skillLV targets. It's really nice when you're still a ranger but drops off badly after that because it's only one hit.
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>>124367187
Not a fan of the belts and general shape, but the little potion is cute. Could have been a lot better. I like the others so far though.
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What's the orsha equivalent of demon prison d2?
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Got lv200 at Zemyna and was planning to call it quits, but then I thought "how far can I go now?"
Went to Gabija and now this.

I didn't know it was THIS better, the rates here are crazy
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>>124367294
It's 5+level AAR, not targets, sadly.

It stays good as a way to pull a bunch of faraway things later. Not a bad skill either way.
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>still no plague doctor skill info

FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE
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>>124367321
Orsha eventually stops around 100-115, and you go to Fedimian to do Mage Tower, so anything past then is what you've already seen.

However, I'm currently Level 110/Class Level 5 (R4) and I'm going to do Klaipeda's quests up to Mage Tower.

I'm on 116 Level 4 EXP Cards and I just got to Akmens Ridge. I'm gonna stop for now and continue later though.

There's also a few more maps from 103 to 115 in Orsha I've not done which I can pick up later too. I don't think I'll have much issues with levelling.
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So what the hell does switch gender actually do?
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>>124367393
>It's 5+level AAR, not targets, sadly.
Well anyway, it hits a lot of targets but falls off because of its shitty damage.
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>>124367423
Sorry I'm too lazy to level up my paladin.
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>>124367429
Did they fuck with the level/class exp ratio? In our beta you are usually around class lv10 at lv110
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>>124367608
grow up futa cock for female character
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>>124367913
They either fucked with it, or enemies in the other area give a higher base:class ratio.
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Anyone got the formula for attribute levels cost total cost?
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>>124367913
He got a blue that spiked him to cl15 r2 and way beyond what he should've been in char levels. It desynced his progress.
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>>124368189
Oh okay, that explains it then
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Did anyone get to scout c3 in the beta? How was it?
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>>124368394
There was an anon posting about it. It's meh. Split shot is just Oblique 2.0. Go ahead and make one if you enjoy all your split arrows flying into dead monsters.
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>>124368394
Split Arrow is OP. Totally worth it.
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>>124368489
Figures.. It seemed like it would've made a nice path into cannoneer. Why are all archer classes so shit.
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I apologize if I missed something in the faqs, but is this game still in closed beta? The dates seemed like it might be outdated and it came out of closed beta.
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>>124367387
This is so weird, I don't even know when (or if I even should) use my exp cards
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>>124368575
Feels shit all the way until you get to C3 though.
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>>124368667
>iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Wednesday, December 9th, 23:00 PM (EST).
Learn to read. Release is nowhere near.
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>>124368580
If cannons are really slow, it might be worth taking Scout C3. The skill is pretty good, the problem is that auto-targetting skills are all like that. Happens with Falconer's Hovering too.
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>>124368736
When I made my most recent character (which got to 200, unlike the rest that I had some dislike of for one reason or another), I skipped the first story quest and just grinded until I got to 50 and then 5 runs of the 50 dungeon. Good luck getting a full party for that though at this stage of the game, especially a healer.
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>>124368394
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxV6Mna2Zcw
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>>124369061
Fuck this really, you could still make it to another rank 6 with the time left but no more people would do dungeon runs
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>>124367236
It probably just wasn't ready yet.
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>>124369296
You could probably recruit a high level player, and use dodgy mechanics to have them in your dungeon to help you, but not have them kill anything. Downside is you're losing one source of damage, but in exchange that damage isn't going to give you one exp per kill in exchange.
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>>124369429
Could I like, invite a high level healer. Then kick him inside the dungeon to just put down heal tiles?
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>>124369429
>>124369476
You can have a high level player take monsters to low hp and with party xp set to individual have a lower character kill them to still get full xp from them.
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>>124369238
>blowing through SP faster than even alchemist SP pots can regen it

Damnit, IMC.
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>>124369061
With Gabija's rate, you could skip the 50 and 90 dungeons
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>>124369595
Quarrel shooters use 100 sp per stone shot at level 15.
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>>124369850
>>124369595
Did they change anything with Archers on the new patch for kCBT?
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>>124369843
Skipping 90 if you're pelt based, sure, because you have areas that are solid mob density and easily killed. Skipping 50, not so much, since everything between 50-70 is basically ass density or a pain in the ass to kill.
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>>124369595
Quarrels can probably outhandle L15 alch pots.
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>>124369850
>>124369990

Unless you really need that stun duration there's no need to max Stone Shot, though.
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>>124369850
There's still literally no reason to take stone shot to lv15. 22 sp at lv1 and you lose a minimal amount of damage.
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>>124369913
Aside from adding r7 its hard to say. Datamining is impossible right now because we have nothing to open the .ipf files with. I think they might've purposefully changed it so that we can't datamine all the shit they add in their patches before they release it.
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>>124370063
>>124370095

This isn't true. I have previously tested with stone shot both at level 15, and level 1.
Level 15 stone shot doubles my damage. (I have a quarrel c3)
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>>124370178
And now try it at a higher level. You get some 300 bonus damage that doesn't scale for 71sp more per shot.
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>>124369238
Isn't that literally just oblique shot?
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>>124370329
Oblique bounces only to one enemy, Split two. Oblique suffers a damage penalty on the bounced shot, but Split gains a damage bonus.

It's a very strong upgrade.
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>>124370063
Stone shot levels actually give insane damage, but even it's base damage is fucking insane.

>>124370268
I haven't actually tested the exact damage, I'll do that later with a weaker bow to see the exact increase I need to get exact numbers with no deviation, but the increase in damage is p.silly actually, then again the base damage is silly.

>>124370329
Stone Shot is similar, honestly there's at least 3 "Isn't that just Oblique Shot" skills and I imagine we'll see more later too it's a good mechanic just underwhelming the way they have it now because they're too similar.
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>>124370397
It's still isn't very impressive damage.
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>>124370268
Level 165.
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>>124369476
>>124369539
Don't even need to do this, just put exp share to individual and you kill shit yourself, the high level player just supports you.

Did that as a lv102 linker with my lv50 pyro friend.
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Any Scout can give input on Flare Shot?
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>>124370651
Unless it was changed it's literally just your base atk every second on an incredibly small aoe for the duration.
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>>124370803
What the hell does Scout C1/2 even offer
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So is there a consensus of the most painless way for taking archer to r6?
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>>124371038
Archer 3 Quarrel 3
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>>124371038
Just level Oblique, and take any class
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>>124371023
Access to Scout 3.
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>>124371038
Ranger3 sapper2 for AoE memery
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Help me, anon. which gem should i put on my two-handed sword? highlander going barbarian. Critical rate or Critical attack?
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>>124370095
the real reason is stun duration, but it's good enough at lv10
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>Log onto zemyna to learn an attribute on my first character, to see if the power of earthquake 15 is real
>someone announcing they'll pay people 100k to assist them in awakening an item
I was legitimately shocked.
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>>124371049
Quarrel has something to offer at least. Scout's got nothing until C3 and even then it's not worth it.
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>>124366185
>>124366265
Full Draw spreads the poison, but it suffers from the severe damage reduction.
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>>124371685
You get two instances of it, and double the number of targets it will spread to. It's good for Wugong Gu.
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>>124371283
Rate, crit attack is useless if you don't actually crit.
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this game is so dead
how do i level to 200 now
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>>124372079
What level are you right now? If anything past 130, solo.
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Are there any sapper c3's here?

How is the class at the final circle, and is it worth it for that extra damage on broom trap
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>>124372163
Apparently not. The C3 skill is really hard to use, and not actually better than Broom Trap. Sappers I met say it's better get something else instead.
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>>124371920

b-but muh full dex
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I made it, /tosg/.
Cuties should expect to get kissed any minute now.
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>>124372376
Why not oracle? You could've had super thighs.
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>>124372376
>memedirbys 3

wow.
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>>124372376
>>124372505

How does safety zone statue work, do you constantly have to be running counter clockwise around it to enjoy its effect?
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No extension
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Anyone on Gabija for 50 dungeon? I don't want to grind Yognomes when I could be getting talt instead.

Also, if anybody wants to donate Varv Skins for my future Beetleback shield, I'll gladly accept them.
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>>124372359
So ranger c3 sapper c2 is another viable option.

I'm unsure how it would stack up to archer c3 ranger c3 however. The question is does ranger provide enough aoe by itself. (Assuming you have a funded ranger and a funded sapper)
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>>124372587
Run three times around it
Buff lingers for about 15s.

>>124372913
If you haven't got the memo, this isn't really a testing beta, it's more like an advertising beta. They don't care about testing shit else we would have Dragoon/Orsha/etc.
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>>124373005
You get Bounce Shot, Full Draw and Barrage along with Oblique. Dunno how much more AoE you need
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>>124373067
I just with I had more time to get one more class to r6
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>>124372587
Just once. It really has three circular zones around it which you have to step on in the right order.
You do that by running counter-clockwise and on level 5 get 14 seconds of immunity (it should be 18 but I guess this has to do with lag?)
Can circle around it again when the timer's almost run out to refresh the buff, though it seems to give you less time for each cycle.
Still, that's around 45 seconds of immunity, the spell is surprisingly good.
There's also a limit on how many times you can run around it (or how many people can do it) until the statue disappears, and the limit seems to increase with skill level.
>>124372484
mind control kissing
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>>124373067
>>124373327
Whoa, thanks, doing Diev 3 next beta.
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This happened a while ago. Still salty about amount of retards I had to deal with.
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>>124372972
That was fast.
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>>124373327
You can only do that to people you duel right? Nobody will duel a lewd druid.
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>>124371038
archer-quarrel-quarrel-quarrel-anything else
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>>124372972
I'm still lv32.
Still haven't used my cards though, but don't think it'll pop me to 50
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>>124373128
Yet barrage is the only one that will actually clear shit at higher levels out of those skills.
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>>124373640
Well, not all skills can be winners anon. That's like asking Doppels to have 3 Cyclones
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Anyone would like to donate their Vubbe Fighter's Blood for meme glove?
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>>124373469
These are the type of people who go on tos forums also the ones that sell to talt scammers and sell their equips/recipes for below or equal vendor price in market.
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>>124373067
>it's more like an advertising beta
Advertising their buggy piece of shit and incompetence? Inability to make proper fixes without breaking anything, quickly handling their own mistakes? Releasing a simple hotfix not on maintenance day?
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>>124373640
Is your ranger fully geared in 175 ilevel, with gems and upgrades. to at least +10?
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Ded thread.
Why is there still no new information regarding the new classes? What about classes who got c3 or c2 like necro or sorc?
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>>124373531
Thanks to OP Pardoner buffs, yeah.

>>124373630
Don't rush. Make optimal use of the EXP on the maps you currently are.
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>>124374510
Sorc got one (1) new skill, Necro already had a lot.
>>
what new skills does squire c3 get?
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>>124374549
Pardoner buffs really make the earlygame much less painful. I'm surprised you went pelt > hop1 though.
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There is a 31MB patch in Korea but I don't know where to find patch notes.
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>>124374549
Forgot to ask: How exactly does the C block improve my blocking?
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>>124374643
It just does.
What meme build are you going? Your skill picks are pretty bizarre already.
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>>124374643
Increases it 500%
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>>124374643
open your f1 stat list. press block. if you have the attributes, see your p.def go up by ~25%? and your block go up by like 600. Essentially, if you have a shield you can block a whole bunch of hits you'd normally take, in exchange for not being able to attack.

This, however, does not work when you're getting gang raped. You seemingly take a hidden block penalty the more things are attacking you at one time, so it's not like you can use swash and then just stand inbetween 10 enemies and not die while using block.
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>>124373469
You don't technically need to make the highest bid public, which is known as a sealed first-price auction.
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>>124374693
I disagree, sword gets pain barrier 1/conc5/gungho5 the rest in bash or thrust. pelt gets 1 in guardian, 5 in swash, 5 in umbro blow, and 4 in rim blow.
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>>124374625
It wasn't my plan, actually. I intended Highlander2 at first, but went with something with a little better synergy instead.

>>124374693
pelt hop rodelero3

I didn't get Finestra first because there are no good 40 spears. Will save and get a Grand Spoonton later.

Will probably get rid of Guardian though. This skill is garbage. I would rather have Rim blow instead.

>>124374706
>>124374807
I see. Thanks for the information.
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>>124374510
>there are 3 anons in kcbt
>24 new circles to see

I wonder
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>>124374912
There are at least 5, though two seem to not want to socialize with us.
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>>124373469
He'll be committed to the highest bid even if unsatisfactory, he's just fishing for a big catch.
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>>124374902
Assegai is probably the best 40 spear. Silver spear would be if cheminis weapons could actually be made.

Guardian is a one point wonder, if you get it and use it for the 18% evasion attribute.
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>>124374912
information is probably already being spread in the closed korean forum, they could just copy paste that shit.
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Does the blue hair achievement work in kCBT?
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>>124374510
There's a multiple reasons and they've all been said time and time again.
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>>124374510
Lurk more, newfag.
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>>124374628
No new notes since the 3rd.
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Can any Ranger post their skills tab?
I'm afraid that Musketeers can't use their skills.
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Starting a character on Gabija, would anybody have excess money they could lend?
I could trade you on Lamia, however I doubt that would be useful.
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Why aren't you people rolling in Saule for that there 1 week extension?
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>>124375432
what's your username
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>>124375505
Because it's not getting an extension.
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>>124375525
mamba negra, I'm at klaipeda entrance right now
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>>124375430
But rangers aren't weapon locked
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>>124375430
Ranger's don't have weapon reqs

>>124375505
Saule isn't getting one
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/announcement-on-extension-of-beta-period-and-exp-event/119537
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>i have no beta key
>when can i play this game?!
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>>124375562
>>124375565
The above poster Is not me.
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>>124375565
Gas the BR.
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>>124375624
Whom are you quoting?
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>>124375629
You're lying.

>>124375667
I'm not bruzillian.
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>>124375525
>>124375629

In any case, I haven't created one yet, currently deciding on my class.
However in return for helping me fund this, I'll give you a spare beta key in case you find an alt account character useful.
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>>124375027
Didn't know about Guardian Attribute. Good to know.

Does that mean I am not going to be levelling up Gung Ho? Can't use both at the same time.
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>>124375754
Prove you're not brazillian, if I give you a vuvuleza, what will you say?
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Will there even be a maintenance if its ending on the next day
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>>124375792
Well, meet me by the statue in West Siauliai Woods ch1 and post your username here.
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>>124375301
pls response
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>>124375884
"HUE HUE"?
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>>124372163
Everyone other sapper I met complains about Spiky shooter, but I think it's fine. I has its issues with that long ass cooldown and problems with aiming (it only shoots the arrows from a side, a monster can activate the trap and still be left unharmed because the arrows went the other way). Still, it's 835x10 at level 5 with strike damage property, it's good burst damage ,that I mostly use against single targets I want to kill quickly. Collar bomb also has 1200 base hitting 11 or 10 times (I guess?tooltip says "setups", but I don't trust it) at level 10 and broom gets 525 base iirc, with each broom dealing 20ish hits that's a lot. I guess it depends on what you plan on taking later on, I don't regret picking sapperc3, though I'm starting to think I'm the outlier here
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>>124375683
probably himself and i'm in the same boat as him so... : when and how do i get to play the game
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>>124376162
Nobody knows
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>>124375884
>vuvuzelas are brazilian
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>>124375580
>>124375576
Does it say All? Their skills do have a lot of weapons mentioned now, on kCBT. So, rip I guess.
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>>124375884
NOOT FUCKING NOOT
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>>124375923
I hope you weren't just sitting there waiting for me?
0091.
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>>124376530
Yes, I was, but I was tabbed out, unfortunately. I've replied to your whisper.
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>>124376423
Fuck. Does it not include Muskets? Guess it's gonna be picking utility classes on the way to that now
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>>124375875
Honestly? flip a coin. If you want to level gung ho feel free, but if you want some extra evasion at the cost of a bit of power use guardian. I don't know how much evasion you'll gain from it with that much dex, but it probably wouldn't be that m uch so gung ho will probably suit you better.
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>>124376609
none of ranger skills require you to have a specific weapon, according to tosbase. Unless they changed it, you should be fine I guess
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>>124376609
Hopefully it's just temporary. It happened in the past, they simply don't have animations for that weapon done yet.
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>>124375956
I BEG YOU
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>>124376609
Does word "ALL" saying anything to you?
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>>124376956
sent
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>>124376609
>>124376696
>>124376978
Here is kCBT.
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>>124376978

>>124376423
>Their skills do have a lot of weapons mentioned now, on kCBT.
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>>124371558
So I tried the poewr of EARTHQUAKE 15. It was not real. It was fucking pathetic.
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>>124375875
You can have both, use one at the right situation.
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>>124377040
lol
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>>124377005
So bow, xbow, dagger, shield, ???, pistol?
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>>124377109
Cannon.
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>>124377005
OH WOW THATS NEAT

Hm. What about Quarrel's Stone Shot? Does it works with mucket or XboW+Cannon?

And, well, id like info about Split Shot and Schwarzer skills, but there are harder to see
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>>124377127
AND NO MUSKETS
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>>124377109
The bomb is cannon. Can't tell if pistol counts for rifle too though. Don't remember if rifles had their own icon.

>>124377136
Quarrel skills work with Cannons.
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Plague Doctor and Featherfoot infos where
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>>124377040
>he fell for it
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>>124375298
God, those goggles are adorable
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>>124377209
What about Archers? Does theirs' say All?
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>>124377040
You didn't set it up right.
Did you Lethargy + Quickcast and have the Linker attribute?
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>>124377384
Let me finish this quest, but I'm pretty confident that no_
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So Wiz3 > Ele3 > Warlock 3?
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>>124377341
I didn't fall for it, I had a wiz3 that was my first character that I abandoned way back when. I originally got it because magic missile looked like it'd be a solid skill. How mistaken I was.

>>124377405
I only got to c3 wiz on my first char, so no I did not have a circle of linker with earth buff. I cannot see it magically improving the damage by thousands.
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Is it just me or does Vertical Slash just suck?
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>>124377512
Improves the damage tenfold.
You'll 100 damage instead of 10 damage now!
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>>124377476
>warlock(3)

Also, elementalist is garbage.
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>>124377621
It requires quite a bit of preparation, but I've managed to make it hit 5k or so.

Considering it costs next to nothing I've come to treat it as some kind of filler attack to try to setup while going about my usual Highlandery business of killing things.
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>>124377731
>Also, elementalist is garbage.
See if I care. I like the outfit. And the Warlock outfit is cute too.
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>>124377775
Do you have it at level 1 or 5?
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>>124377476
I'm going to be the guy that goes Cryo3 -> Sorc -> Necro -> Warlock and regrets his decision at the end of it all. Possibly Sorc2 if Riding is a circle 2 skill. But if it's circle 1 I'll stick with that even if they nerf Templeshooter because Cerby is a cute little Helldog

>>124377791
You can only wear one outfit at a time, man
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>>124377040
git gud
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>>124377845
5.
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>>124377849
You can only wear one outfit on the outside, yes.
I'm not like you sluts who are naked under your clothes.
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>>124377857
So instead of 100 damage it now does 185?
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>>124377384
Kneeling is All.
Musketeer is slowly becoming a meme class.
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>>124378074
Archer2/Scout3/SR/Musketeer confirmed
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>>124378074
The Highlander kind and the Quarrel Shooter kind?
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>>124378074
Doesn't the gun symbolise musketeer?

>>124377675
Even though the tooltip says 10% per level for the earth attribute?
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>>124378074
Can't use Oblique Shot on Muskateer? That's bad.
Kneeling Shot might be good if you could use skills while kneeling.
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>>124378157
s/and/or
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>>124378197
The Gun is for pistols, like Xbow/pistol combo
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>>124378292
Strange, since I would've thought it would get a green icon if that were the case (being an offhand weapon like dagger or shield).
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>>124378353
They didn't update them yet. Cannon also is red, even though it's offhand.
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>>124377980
Wow, can you please not call me a slut?
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>>124378197
Yeah, probably.
I haven't even read the tool tip, I don't know what it does.
I thought that the majority of stats were made up, I just wanted to join in.
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>>124378154
there are clearly sapper skill
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>>124378398
what's the icon for musket, in that case?
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>>124378481
No idea, can't check the files.
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Here mates, it's fixed
Now we can play
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>>124378074
they probably just haven't added icons for the musket yet
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>F.O.Es now spawn one time per week

what the fuck
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>>124378875
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>>124377791
But you don't need to go ele3 to get the outfit though.
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>>124378812
Muskets are the only thing missing. If its usable, they would have just placed ALL
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>>124378875
Wait what really? Sorce?
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>>124378875
>all boss drops now cost 100x their current price

That's what that change implies.
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>>124378934
True. But Ele2 has Meteor and Ele3 has Frost Cloud, and I was under the impression they were both decent.
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>>124378967
musketeers in the trailer could use all the archer skills

chill the fuck out bruv
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>>124378875
>F.O.Es now take one whole week to kill
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>>124378812
Cannon is also there. It could also say "All" like Swift Step if the problem was a missing icon.

The fact is these skills are all arrow restricted, regardless of subweapon, Musketeers on suicide watch
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>wake up
>still no Plague Doctor skills info/webms
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>>124379050
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Found a collection in Pilgrim Path.
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EVERYBODY FUCKING CALM DOWN
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>>124378967
>I can use multi shot with a cannon
>but not with a musket

If that shit is true, only Sapper and wugushi could be compatible with Musketeer, maybe Rogue is muskets are indeed 1h. I hope they're lumping muskets and pistols as firearms in that icon
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>>124379305
>>124379198
>trusting outdated videos
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>kill quest boss
>no loot

fucking faggot gooks
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>>124379380
>being a retarded mouthbreather
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>>124379305
>6k HP
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>>124379368
Because cannon is a subweapon, multishot with a cannon is just you shooting with an xbow
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>>124379368
>I hope they're lumping muskets and pistols as firearms in that icon
THEN THEY WOULD HAVE LISTED IT AS 'ALL'
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Delicious archer tears. You class tree is shit and nothing works well together, just accept it. This is just continuing the tradition.
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>>124379386
>ToS still doesn't let you own a house and build your own little farm with dairy cows and Poppolion pets
In the year 2019, this will be a thing
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>>124379515
you are a literal monkey with no brain
>>
It's actually sometime IMC would do: instead of coming up with new, interesting abilities Musketeers, they just recycle Archer skills with new weapon compabilities.

>inb4 the 4th variant of Oblique Shot
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>>124365983
Suddenly falconer doesn't look so bad if dropping an enemy's adr allows multi to become AoE. I'm sapper 3 archer 2, I may take falconer over reiter now.
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>>124379813
It is already a recycled SR. Musketeers is essentially an unmounted SR
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>>124379967
You still need some aar yourself, since archers have none by default.
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>>124379813
but we have 6-7 variants of Oblique already
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>>124379975
SR is Silver Ranger from Lineage2, yes?
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Any Pardoners available in Gabija? The ones in Klaipeda are gone.
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Since Corsairs can now use Pistols, how would their Double Weapon attack work?
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>>124380419
I can't do this anymore
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>>124380495
THE WORLD NEEDS YOU MATE
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Heal Tiles don't cap at level 5 anymore.
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>124380425
>Can you sword without delay after normal attack

It's pretty unequivocal
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>>124380419
Stop crashing the channel goddamnit
>>
DRAGOON
INFO
WHEN
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How much should i jew for the Talisman? It's used on the Pentamion Recipe. I got 2 from a golden mob right now.
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>>124380519
What's point, its gonna be over soon anyway

>>124380569
Its like they're preparing Clerics for bigger parties
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>>124380569
holy shit
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>>124380569
>the whole heal tile thing was because targeting was different back then
>they're insisting on it instead of making like any other skill
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>>124380569
Everyone going Cleric C3. Are they doing anything to Guardian Saint? I heard it's pretty crap.
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>>124380695
Oh mate

Just let people play with some buffs
I moved to Gabija week ago only cause of Pardoners, Alchemists and Squires. And im about 200 lvl now.

And there's a lot of people playing now on 50-150 levels

Why don't you help em, while you can?
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>>124380695
But I need buffs ;_;
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>>124372163
Broom trap gets about 230 extra damage per beam, which figures to about 3.4k bonus damage to anything that gets hit for the full 15 or so rotations. Spike shooter is really only for bosses or bulky single targets; just drop the trap in the center left of the boss and it deals pretty hefty damage. Collar bomb becomes devastating against grouped mobs at level 10.

I'm archer c2 and sapper c3, I couldn't really see any other class to take at r5 since I want to go either reiter or falconer and most if not all archer classes are wasted choices if you only take one circle.
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Where is the lv190 dungeon located?
I just turnd leve190 and know it's somewhere in mage tower 1f-5f
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>>124381045
Its in fedimain suburbs right in front of the mage tower entrance m8
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>>124381118
woah, i just walked to 3f and still no entrance. So it was right OUTSIDE of mage tower. Thanks for saving me time
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http://strawpoll.me/6183572

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzjRFaHCVkA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVkuSb0q12k
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>>124381247
>voting before listening to them fully
Fucking shitters.
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>>124380076
Multishot appears to work with the vubbe gloves. That's all I really need.
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Where the hell is the plague doctor info?
>>
>>124380883
Would it be viable going ranger c2, sapper c3?
Sure you miss out on spiral shot, but the extra damage from barrage ads to your already powerful aoe arsenal
>>
I fell for the 'do the dungeons alone to get more XP' meme.

Clearing the 175 dungeon is taking an eternity
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>>124381518
I wouldn't know man. I'm debating either getting my archer/sapper to r6 to test out falconer or starting a new archer to test ranger and wugushi.

I'm definitely rolling archer for the next beta though, fuck the haters.
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>>124381687
Some builds can do it really quickly.
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>>124381518
Ranger is shit worse than memelander desu, Archer c2/c3 is much better. If you want more AOE go with Archer c2, Sapper c2 Wugushi c2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hGeZ9jFjD0
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>>124381687
Shouldn't have went Archer bro
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>>124381796
weak bait
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>>124381796
0/10
>>
I haven't played Archer yet, but I hear the only good classes are Sapper and Wugushi, and that Scout or Ranger or something has a skill than can duplicate one of Sapper's AOE skill but I don't really care for that, I'd rather go 2 Sapper 2 Wugushi. Can anyone tell me which skills to get?

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/5tz98cj836/
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>>124381518
Consider that kneeling shot adds damage to sapper traps when used.
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>>124382164
I hadn't realised.
However, if your going to say this, you have to consider the damage that you would be losing, not having a skill like barrage. Considering its a zero sum game at the moment.
So can you say, that kneeling shot would add more damage to your rotation against that pack of monsters, then multiple barrage fires?
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>>124381518
My personal opinion is that you're better adding more multi hit skills or improving one that increase in amount of hits than increasing ones you already have simply because the damage scaling won't make up for it in comparison.
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>>124382164
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/zaz9safy0d/

I'm playing with this build right now. You can also swap Wugushi c2 with Sapper c2 if you want, but broom trap is pretty good for grinding Demon Prison.
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>>124382160
Max Needle Blow and Throw Gu Pot. Zhendu attribute is better for bosses; Wugong Gu for mobbing (get Zehndu as you already have lots of AoE). Ignore Bewitch and Detoxify (buy Antidotes)
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>>124382164
Eh, not as much damage as just taking another skill and using it while broomtrap is up. If you are archer 2 or 3 for any other reason I'd say go for it, but taking archer 2 or 3 just for the kneeling shot boost is a waste.
>>
>lv70 LFP at lv50 dungeon

Why
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>>124382457
My experience with Wugu 2 speaking but throw Gu Pot is not lots of AOE. It's better than nothing but not really that amazing. You definitely want Wugong Gu as well.
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>>124382160
lol

only good classes are scout and quarrel
and archer, but you have it from the start
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>>124382576
niceme.me
>>
Pardoners are gone again on Gabija. Anyone? Please? muh buffs ;_;
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>>124382567
>>124382457
How's this?
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>>124382552
EXP anon. As long as there's no 20 level difference.
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>>124382369
I'm not sure what your in favour of with that statement?
Both ranger c3 and sapper c3 improve in the amount of hits, (Spiral shot and collar bomb both gain in this regard) And both rangers and sappers skills seem usable at c3 (Spiral shot and spike shooter)
So it could go either way in theory, unless someone were to directly compare them
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>>124382615
so, mate, do you think im joking?
>>
Are archers full DEX or 50-50 on DEX and STR?
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>>124382567
by lots of AOE I meant his Sapper C2. Throw Gu Pot hits hard and it's better in every way than Wugong Gu.
>>124382735
Looks good
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>>124382904
FULL STRENGTH YOU FUCKING DIPSHIT
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>>124382904
STR:DEX:SPR
2:1:1

It's best one for archers
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>>124382669
PARDONERS WHERE? THEY'RE GONE AGAIN
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>>124383158
ch1 near statue
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>>124382790
Ranger is the new meme.

>>124382904
It's really difficult to calculate your stats without taking your items into count. Just add DEX until you get 350~400 Crit rate with Swift Step/gems/accessories on and then pump Strength until you start vomiting blood. You will end up with 2/1 or 3/1 STR:DEX. You can also get more HP with lv 6 red/yellow gems.
>>
Does anyone know if Multishot has a lowered Critical Chance?

I've got a spreadsheet I'm working on for calculating damage values and making everything matchup but I've tested 20 times both multishots and haven't crit against these damn panto archers, stone shot and oblique critting every 2-3 times.
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>>124382735
Sapper here, looks pretty solid.
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>>124383126
>SPR on archer

Stop spreading memes.
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Will I make it to top 1000 before the beta ends?
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>>124380569
i guess if you hypothetically land every square on a fucking huge boss that's 147+INT+Memelemental damage x 15 x 2
bige damag
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>>124382904
Full str with some con until dex stops being useless.

Just grab gems for evasion and crit rate.
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>>124383538
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>>124383345
Nevermind, got it to crit after a while, damn that took a bit.
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Is it worth taking 2 circles of Sadhu just for Possession? Or should I get 2 circles of Krivis for ZaibAOE instead?
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>>124383690
Sadhu is 60% worth it for Possession alone. OOB damage is great but you'll find it is very situational. I only use it against bosses and areas with no aggro.

Even with the bug that interrupts you Possession is still worth it.
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>>124383512
nah, im just joking aroung

but seriously
look at what they saying

con
dex
int
sappers
wugushis
rogues

how can i be serious out there when they talking so serious about that shit
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>>124382735
Zendu 10 is much better than the pseudo AOE from Wugong gu 10.
Wugong gu 5 is enough with 60% attributes and some flat elemental damage from your equips.

>>124383690
Cleric>Krivis c2 >Sadhu c2>Druid
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>>124383538
>>124383615
I'm surprised I'm still in the top 10. I guess everyone is too burned out on ToS to tryhard for ranking points.
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>>124383837
My goal is rank 10 but meh. I'm just having fun now with the remaining days of beta.
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>>124383837
>burned out

no, people simply aren't wasting time on something that will get wiped
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>>124383829
>Still with the Druid meme

Druid is complete garbage, you're better off with an extra circle of Krivis or Cleric
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>>124372163
it's pretty good. Though double exp kinda warped it. I solo demon prison from 141-160 and just quest till i can solo the 175 dungeon. Saves me a lot of time.
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>>124383825
>79 crit rate
>quarrel shitter
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>>124382790
He wanted to go ranger C2. Seems kinda useless to me unless you want C3, especially when you could improve multi shot and critical rate instead then go sapper 3.
>>
>>124383837
>>124383615
Any tips for ranking up faster?
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>>124384024
100% maps/Do most quests even hidden ones/talk to everything/ make everything/ buy stuff/ upgrade all stuff/kill everything/ kill everything multiple times/go to item dungeon/craft stuff/Go everywhere/complete collection
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>>124383829
>Cleric>Krivis c2 >Sadhu c2>Druid
Cleric c3 new meta tho with 15 tiles heal (must have for group, and decent damage against non flying). So I was planning either cleric3>sadhu2>druid or cleric3>krivis2>druid, thoughts?

Note that OOB attack speed got severely nerfed in latest kCBT patch according to Disc.
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Has there been any word on whether the r6 armband will stay after the wipe or is it just a beta prestige thing that'll disappear?
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>>124383924
>top possible speed is garbage
confirmed for never seeing red panto
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>>124384141
>Sadhu got nerfed

I don't want to believe
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>Someone is selling mana-mana.
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>>124384230
check previous thread, ctrl-f "attack speed". Disc made a video.OOB Attack speed was at least halved, so that's a severe nerf to OOB dps.
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>>124384184
well memed
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>>124383829
>>124383792
Still undecided Zaibai 10 vs Possession 5. Cleric 3 a must. Going Krivis 2 gives me tools vs Sadhu's only Possession (considering OOB will be seldom used, especially at r7+ with other spells to add to the rotation). Welp.

Tl;dr Krivis 2 vs Sadhu 2? (Cleric 3 a must)
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>>124384493
Krivis c2,
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What is the minimum level that I should stop doing the 50 dungeon again?
I hate this place and haven't even fought Gesti
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>>124384493

If what >>124384290 says gets confirmed, there's really no good reason of going Sadhu anymore.
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Have a few questions for anyone who has played certain archer class combinations:
1)Scout+Hunter/Falconer, will it hide your pet?
2)What if Falconer is 'riding'?
3)Scout+SR What if riding?
4)Rogue: Burrow. What does it look like in terms of invisibility? Is it like rogue's 'outline' to enemies or is it true invisibility like seeing a scout in PvE not in your party?
5)Scout: How many hits does flare do per second?
6)Scout: Can you dispel scroll fluflu?
7)Rogue: Is Feint as garbage as it seems? 15second cooldown, does it only target 1 enemy or a group?
8)Scout: Is fluflu damage DoT or 1time? (If DoT ticks/second?)


I should probably state my goal I'm trying to find an optimal combination for PvP utilizing QS3.
Here's an example of current data I have that's accurate for Quarrel Shooter (With my current lvl 79 gear).

I don't want to do this for every archer subclass so I want to just rule some out, and since I'll do scout either way I need some info on flare/flu.
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>>124383943
What class did you rank on rank 2? And what were your most used skills in demon prison?
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>>124384579
70-71, My first character didn't do dungeons and I had to grind at storage.
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>>124384604
Possession has been fixed to do Holy damage, as it was originally intended, plus the 'stop' action, it's really powerful. Only downside is the channel, which prevents you from moving.

Btw, Cure 15 is probably the strongest hitting skill in the game at high level. Even stronger than Carnivory. Not including the Holy damage.
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>>124384626
>7)Rogue: Is Feint as garbage as it seems? 15second cooldown, does it only target 1 enemy or a group?

it's apparently a must have iirc. When you level it it increases the number of targets it hits
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>>124384717
Possession was godly without the bug, or maybe it was a ninja nerf? We need to confirm it with the anons playing the kBeta. if it was in fact a nerf and they also nerfed OOB, that means Sadhu is not even half as good as it was before, I don't see a reason of wasting ranks on it, instead strengthening the classes I have or going for an entirely new melee build with Monk
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>>124384579
That's a mistake to not have faought Gesti, here is how you do those levels.

1)Do everything in 2F and keep a warp
2)Farm a few extra levels (55~) in 2F Egnome room
3)Unless you're close to reset time do all quest areas up to like the 65~70 quests (Up to King's Plateau [don't do quests just grab warp]) then go to Gytis and do those quests
4)If you're not 60 do egnomes to 60
5)Do 5x Lvl 50 run, you're now lvl 70
6)Continue questing

You don't even need to use those cards, but the thing is you lose all the boss exp if you farm egnomes first or just rush straight through the maps.

With 2x you can just egnome to 60 dungeon to 70 and only do the main quests alone that path though.
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>>124384626
>Here's an example of current data I have that's accurate for Quarrel Shooter (With my current lvl 79 gear).

that must be a lot of data, you know
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WTF OVERKILLS REMOVED
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>>124384626
Flare does about 1 hit per second and is decent sustain damage on things you can keep stationary.
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>>124384998
It is. Might as well share here, it's view only so there's no harm.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TImHLqbFRDckx4ypfxFhUYKAHuFlLb6vRhD7nN0SNxg/edit?usp=sharing
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>>124384921
This seems so wrong, I neve did any of that and didn't have to grind

I understand the purpose of the Demon Prison grind, but what is the point of this one?
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>>124384919
Possession channel behind canceled by a hit was definitely a bug (confirmed by GM on official forum). Several skills got affected. I believe it was fixed on a recent patch (dec 3, check patch notes). Only Knockback and other CC should cancel Possession, not regular hit.
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>>124385109
lol mate what are you doing with your life

that's so wrong and incomplete
why don't you actually play the game, while you still have some time.
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>>124385167
Exp now or later is all the same really, if it keeps you stable on the levels it's fine, just don't go PAST.

Egnomes give 2mil exp/hr.
You can totally skip this, and with 2x exp it might be a good idea.
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>>124384626
Feint is mandatory but only lvl 1. Make sure you max out the attribute. rogue c2 is the best dps in the game atm with karacha.
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>>124385183
My possession still gets canceled by any hit
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>>124385309
>My possession still gets canceled by any hit
That's a bug present in icbt2 that's been fixed in kcbt3 december 3rd patch (according to patch notes). It's been confirmed by a GM that it's a bug. It just hasn't been fixed on slowpoke icbt2.
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>>124384632
Ranger. Just for barrage. It's falls of but it tags enemies to lure for broom traps. Use every single of them even claymores. Claymore rank 15 with 20% attribute i was able to overkill sometimes.
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>>124385232
It's accurate and I have played quite a bit, I'm getting info I wanted before finishing.

All of those numbers are numbers from both of my characters directly.

The only things inaccurate is I left out a few pieces of data I don't intend to use at all and will not influence me greatly:
Blessing/Concentrate damage
Defense debuffs
Elemental damage, which I actually did add but I simply don't care about at the moment.
Elemental resist (My attacks won't be elemental so no problem)

I imagine they'll nerf ele damage so I'm not taking the meme set into account here, at all ON PURPOSE.

I did however take it into account on my pyro and the numbers are accurate for my damage. (I left out MAMP cause I test without glove for anything I care about and I don't stack mamp so it's just glove MAMP)
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>>124385019
You're gonna have to post source on that.
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>>124385409
For broom trap? Wouldn't you need to lure them for spike shooter instead?
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>>124368736

Are the rates on servers different? Wtf?

How are them compared to Laima?
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>>124385457
you could have just scraped tosbase
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>>124385389
But still OOB doing half the damage now? At least they should remove the whole invisible buff mechanic, Setting it up takes at least 2 seconds.

I've been testing the damage formula and I'mt 99% sure it's a bug and the devs never intended the buff to happen. The formula doesn't make sense at all.
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>>124385019
You need even more damage to overkill weaker mobs now I think
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>>124385409
Expect the floor mat that takes 3 seconds to prep. That's really useless. Also make sure you get atleast 8k otherwise you can't soak up damage well.
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>>124385457
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TImHLqbFRDckx4ypfxFhUYKAHuFlLb6vRhD7nN0SNxg/edit#gid=106372346&vpid=A1
this thing can be useful. as wel as magnum opus. but not the "main" thing.
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>>124385549
I mostly did.

That's how I got the default values and then the rest were simple formulas to get varied info I wanted on DPS, total DMG, DMG, DPS/SP, DMG/SP etc

This didn't take much of my time, maybe 4 hours on and off watching anime and freestyles while doing it.
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>>124385520
Yes, I was playing on Zemyna before and Gabija's looks like about 30% more exp.

I think Laima's is the same as Zemyna's
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>>124385519
Spike shooter is only for clearing the big goats. Even then its not as reliable. Also just put them on top of clumps mobs and it will kill a few.
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>>124384717
>Btw, Cure 15 is probably the strongest hitting skill in the game at high level.
zaibas hits the same amount of times and has about 10 times the base damage of cure
the only thing cure has going for it is a 3 second shorter cooldown and holy element
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>>124385585
I actually made that one as well.

The main page is placeholder, I'll probably fix it up in a few days to show the EXP cards and their value for skipping a map or not as well as how much you lose for skipping Main quests at a glance.
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>>124385109
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TImHLqbFRDckx4ypfxFhUYKAHuFlLb6vRhD7nN0SNxg/edit#gid=106372346&vpid=A1

I think this will be super useful for quest tracking. props to you for your hard work anon
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>>124385552
Invisible buff is intended. It's one of the many hidden skill combos. It actually used to give much more than double OOB damage but it was nerfed before kcbt2. Also Fade mechanics made mobs and boss regen HP if they don't have any target, happened during kcbt3.

TL;DR, Sadhu OOB got nerfed 3 times, OOB buffed damage, Fade HP Regen (can't outdamage a regening boss), OOB attack speed.
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>>124385686
base damage is a small difference when you are geared properly for multi hit skills.
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>>124385782
Wait fade now lets mobs regen their HP?
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>>124385859
>zaibas hits the same amount of times
even when you're geared properly for multi-hit skills zaibas is doing 11,638 more damage than cure
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLxJLJJIGoQ

Here's a plague doctor skill y'all.
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>Hit Probability
I wonder if this is Accuracy or something else. Seems pretty low for just Accuracy.
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>>124385686

http://www.tosbase.com/database/skills/40104/
Zaibas 15 = 19 hits

http://www.tosbase.com/database/skills/40002/
Cure 15 = 38 hits

Shit you're actually right if you take Zaiba's Overheat into consideration. 19 hits x 2 = 38.

Higher based will not matter as much at very high level, compared to Holy Element, which affects a shit ton of monsters.

Then again, Zaibas as higher range so it's easier to hit with it, and has AOE so hits don't get drained as fast as Cure.

K, you win.
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>>124385739
>>124385723
But the problem is - kCBT have increased rated, and it will be increased on later servers, cause more levels and locations will be added. And we will have about 2 times more quests.

So looks like quest tracking will be useful for, i dunno, adventure journal only
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Reminder that the missing girl, which is the same girl you rescued in the mines, was Laima all along.

I am getting close to 75. Anybody has a Beetleback or Sage Wall they'd be willing to part with?
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>>124386104
Also keep in mind Cure doesn't hit flying.
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>>124385898
Yup. You'll still kill trash mobs quickly, but it's very noticeable against elite, and you can't outdamage a boss. The trick to fade is to have someone take aggro, like Krivis' Flame (Austras Koks).

Still, Sadhu got nerfed so many times. OBB setup time and mechanics was already a nerf by itself. It's like IMC doesn't like fun classes.
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>>124386179

Always wanted to know who that bitch was.
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>>124386179
Are you on Gabija? I don't have the beetleback itself, but I do have a recipe if you feel like farming the Varv skins yourself
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>>124386259
You mean Aukuras, not Austras Koks (which is a Dievdirbys statue).
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>>124384626
Hawks cannot be ridden. When i try to ride my Velhider, I get the generic error about missing attribute. When I try to ride the Hawk, it returns nothing. I assume it's impossible since it doesn't even return the standard error, meaning the game didn't even check to see whether I had the attribute or not.
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>>124386292
Yes, I am on Gabija, but the recipe is worth it's NPC price anyway. The varv skins are more expensive than actually buying the shield on market right now.

I'd buy it myself, but all of my stuff is on Zemyna.
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>>124386014
all of the collection buffs are pretty SHIT so that sounds reasonable honestly

>>124385960
>it's an aoe that hits directly in front of you in a small area
NEW AND INNOVATIVE MECHANICS THANKS IMC

>>124386104
ultimately cure will be very slightly better for bossing because of the lower cooldown and holy element being relevant more often than lightning element
it's practically impossible to kill more than one mob with cure, though. zaibas is far, far superior for general play.
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>>124386259

A pet can probably take aggro. I always bring my pet in dungeons when I'm soloing because if I die the boss' hp won't reset.
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>>124386331
>>124386259
Yes Aukuras, my bad.

Btw Fade tends to make bosses heal to full HP instantly in group dungeons, very annoying.
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>>124386482
The collection from zone before gave +3SP regen.
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People keep talking about these Collections, but how the fuck do you even get ones other than the story tomestone sets?
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>>124386135
Well you'll still go Orsha OR Klaipeda, to be honest I started this before knowing about Orsha possibly being another starting town, so yeah.

I admit a lot of it no longer has a use, but I tried to be decently thorough with it so if I do start klaipeda again I should have a quick time.

>>124386591
Damn that's nice.
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Rank 7 was added to tosbase sim.
You can pick new classes, and see their skills, but only skill names and icons.
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>>124385297
Archer c2> Sapper c2>Rogue c2 is pretty much the best deeps in the game right now double Broom Trap + Vendeta + Backstab is OP AF.
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>>124386728
Most of these collections you see posted were added in latest kcbt3 patches in various chests.
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>>124380569
>>124380816
>>124383603
Rolling Cleric3 during release.
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>>124386834
Ah, that makes sense then. Thanks
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>>124386860
Tfw Cleric tree will have even more damage potential that Wizard, even without taking Sadhu. I feel both good and bad, as I like hybrid dps/support classes, but I feel bad for Wiz who have shitty survivability.
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>>124387046
Don't mind, we wiz are meant for support anyways, we would never dream dealing the same damage as our cleric overlords.

;-;
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>>124377980
lol
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>>124387202
Well, technically you have range (Cleric spells are mostly melee based), so you have that going for you. But in ToS, range and kitting work strangely, they don't give as much an advantage as other similar games.
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>>124384015
I had played around with some builds, and it looks like the class choices are as follows:
Ranger c3 > sapper c2
Or
Archer c3 > sapper c3

If rangers barrage falls off at rank two, three ranks in the class is required. This leaves two to take with sapper c2 and still secure your broom trap.
However the other route is archer c3 for more frequent hits via multi shot, and also allowing you to take sapper c3 for harder hitting traps.
Although your damage will be slow against single target monsters, compared to the ranger build above.
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falconer or schweinsteiger?
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>>124387595
Falconer for costume
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>>124387595
Did you take nay jobs that have skills that cannot be used while riding?

If yes, Falconer.
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>>124386541
Even if other members of your party are hitting him?
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Future proof build:

Cleric 3 > Krivis 2 > Dievdirby > Plague Doctor
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Best level 40 bow?
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>>124387950
min +10 Iron Bow
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>>124387873
Fade in a party buff, in group it's buggy, as soon as you cast it, everyone will be Faded and the boss will often instantly regen its HP, very annoying.
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>>124388070
Can't afford to +10 it unfortunately.
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>>124387950
>>124388156
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/equipment/thbow/?item_name=&order=rlevel&grade=2&stars=All&search=
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>>124388292
You miss out on possible awakenings by not showing white items. (Assuming you have an alchemist willing to do it for free)
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>>124384921
Did I fucked up then?
Should I keep going or its better to leave, do the quests then come back?

With this 2x+Gabi's rates is so easy lose the track
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>>124388156
> +10
I don't understand why do I need to +10 weapons. There's some kind of bonus for +10 equipments?
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>>124388402
with those rates it's literally irrelevant

you can be fine with zero dungeon runs all the way to 100+
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>>124388378
At level 40 this seems unrealistic to bother awakening, but you're right. If you can afford it, or have an alchemist friend...
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>>124388402
It honestly doesn't matter with the ridiculous exp rates we have now. It's actually very hard to ever fall behind, you'd have to skip entire zones worth of quests and never do the dungeons
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>>124380569
Huh, taking Cleric C2 got a bit more interesting.

I guess I'll be taking Cleric C2 > Krivis C2 > Sadhu C2 > R7 then.

Depends if that new skill is for Sadhus, otherwise it'll be Sadhu C3. Also, I've not seen any attack speed increases yet when levelling Out of Body.
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>>124388478
http://wiki.tosbase.com/wiki/Damage_Type#Missile
Penalty goes down by upgrading your bow, I don't remember numbers, but you need it at least +10 I think.
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need bokor masters to report in.


large zombie vs wheely zombie? whats better? and is it really worth muh shekels
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>>124388478
Yup for archers, it reduces the projectile penalty against monster size.
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>>124388890
neither of those attributes affect bwa kayiman damage
so they're actually useless
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>>124388939
thank you. what a shame. wheely zombies looked pretty entertaining
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>>124388494
>>124388596
I'll stay here until all of my gear breaks then, haven't even used my cards (not that they will help at this point)

Later I decide if I do the last 4 runs
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Plague Doctor skills and attribute info was posted on the Tester Forums (no videos), here's the images.

https://imgur.com/a/6NLyo

All in Korean, but it's better than nothing.
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>>124388890
Large zombies I think do a little bit more damage, but not when you're using bwa kayiman. Wheelchair zombies have a faster movement speed, which also doesn't affect bwa kayiman. I just bought one of each and left it at that.
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>>124388817
Sup Disc. You're taking Sadhu C2 for Possession alone then? Is it worth it? Seems like 2 ranks that could be used elsewhere. 2 ranks for 1 single doesn't seem worth it, even though Possession is quite strong.

Btw, can you confirm if they fixed the channel skill bug with possession and similar skills, in dec 3rd patch (getting hit cancels the skill)?
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>>124389045
finally something. Thank you!
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>>124388817
Test if fade still makes mobs regain health
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>>124389045
>1 second cooldown on bloodletting
effigy 2.0?
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>>124389697
That's a minute you dolt.
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>>124389163
Yeah, because currently as an INT Cleric, I have next to no attack skills outside of Zaibas, and it's even harder to use Out of Body solo now with the speed reduction.

Also, someone posted that Shinobi might be in game already, but it's a hidden class.

This item is used for Shinobi, which is a hidden class as said in the description.

일호용 시약뱅

시노비 히든 해금용 일호용 시약병.

'Disposable Vial/Reagent'

'Shinobi disposable vials for hidden ban(? class).'
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>>124388817
Fucking IMC why do they keep nerfing all the fun classes?
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>>124389747
O
bad
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>>124389761
Messed up on the hangul, it should be:

일호용 시약뱅

시노비 히든 해금용 일회용 시약병.

(That gives the same translation I posted before.)

You need to be a Swordsman still according to posts though to be a Shinobi.
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>>124389761
Thanks.

Any word on channeled skill cancellation bug (Possession)? Is it fixed?
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>>124389903
I'll be able to check that once I get Sadhu C2.
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>>124389761
>>124389879
>they added Shinobi icons few weeks earlier so dataminers don't think they're available in this update
Based.
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>>124389761
Also, this was in the post's thread too.

으음 사실 찾고나서 바로 외침창으로 정보 공유하고 올렸다가 아무래도 게시판에는 안올리는게 좋지 않냐는 의견도 있고 해서 지웠는대
어제 오늘 보니까 다들 외침창으로 활발히 정보 공유하시고 계시고 다시 올려도 별 문제 없을꺼 같아서 올립니다.

주의 사항
보물상자가 보여서 입수하는 분이 있고 입수 못하는 분이 계셨습니다.
보물 상자가 안보인다고 하시더라고요.
조건이 있는건지 뭔지는 잘 모르겠어요.

Basically explaining where they found it, but they're not sure what to do with it.

Maybe it'll trigger an advancement quest when you pick it up as a R6 Swordsman (CLv 15).
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>>124389994
Speed still garbage? What's the point of choosing a Cleric INT build now that Sadhu got nerfed to hell?
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>>124390236
zaibas being the best damage spell in the game i guess? shame the rest of krivis' skills don't scale very well with levels
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>>124390132
Please translate this >>124389045
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>>124390348
>implying it's not the same person who made both of those posts
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>>124390236
Heal (buffed) + Cure + Zaibas + Sadhu autos (yes, even nerfed) + Possession + Carnivory + Incineration (yet another fucking multi hit aoe with a relatively short cd on a support labeled class)

Cleric are still better mages.
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>>124390236
>https://imgur.com/a/6NLyo
Zaibas, Possession, Cure, Heal, are great damage dealer. Plus Plague Doctor skills, INT Cleric will be more than fine, with plenty of spells to add to the rotation. It will just take them a bit longer than Wiz to have a full arsenal of spells for an effective rotation.
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>>124390348
I posted it in the forums on my kCBT thread, someone might translate it for me.

>>124390463
Also, Kabbalist is pretty strong based on what I've seen. Merkabah does a lot of damage.
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>>124390463
Seriously. My carnivory does 60k damage in one cast on my current character. If it hit flying mobs it would be the best skill in the game without a doubt. I don't know why they've made clerics such strong attackers, with cure, zaibas, and carnivory.
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>>124390880
Doesn't Carnivory lasts like 10 seconds?
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>>124390880
>I don't know why they've made clerics such strong attackers
I want to sit with the game designers and slap them for each shitty and unbalanced skill the game has.

The only logic I can see is that overall, Cleric have much less offensive spells than Wizard, so they made their rarer spells much stronger. Wizard has a shit ton of spells, at least half of them being trash.

tl;dr IMC can't into balance.
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>>124391090
>Cleric has few damage spells, so the ones they get do more damage
>Wizards have more damage spells, but do less damage

>This is somehow not balanced

Ok.
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>>124391061
Yes, but theres more than enough time for all 30 hits to proc, especially if theres multiple mobs inside of your grass circle.

>>124391090
But still, even though I really only have 3 viable offensive spells in cure, zaibas, and carnivory, I can use them each, watch everything die, and then when I move on to my next target they're mostly off cooldown. It doesn't need a lot of skills, just enough so that you don't have much cooldown.
I guess they're just really shit at balance. if anything, damage formulas need to be improved because anything multihit is incredibly strong at high levels, and you're seeing most of these skills in the cleric and archer trees.
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>>124391090
It's very backwards, the support Wizard provides is in a lot of cases much better than what Clerics can do too.
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>C2 Alchemist gets Synthesis to create certain materials you use Digging to get including Acids and Bombs
>C3 Alchemist gets Acid Combustion that scales off your INT and enemy CON
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>>124391293
>wizards have to spend three times as long and spend six times as much sp to deal less damage than a cleric
>balanced
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>>124391364
God please no
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>>124391293
It's not, because of the class system, you'll reach a point where you'll have enough spells, even as a cleric, for a full, permanent rotation, so a lot of Wizard's trashy spells will become obsolete.

Another thing I forgot to mention in favor of Wizards is that most of their spells have Range, while most of Cleric spells are melee based. But in ToS, range isn't as OP as it was in Diablo/RO or similar games.
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>>124390880
healing and supporting are minimal in this game

stop thinking of clerics as standard healbots from other games, they are just another type of mage
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>>124391321
Don't really like Carnivory all that much. Zaibas 10 does roughly that amount of damage, more or less depending on whether the mob is vulnerable or strong against Lighting. Can hit flying mobs, Zaibas 15 blows Carnivory's damage out of the water. Lasts for much longer. The only thing Carnivory has going for it is the fact that you can place it and has a bigger AOE.
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>>124389761

Oh, look what I found.
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any of the kcbt anons streaming?
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>>124391717
untradable quest item?
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>>124391506
Cleric with heals and support is still incredibly useful. It seems like right now that the best possible party is just 4 clerics and a wizard, with the wizard providing damage buffs through thaum and whatever else, and the clerics spamming heals and high damage multi hit spells.

The fastest dungeon runs I've ever had are when There's another druid alongside myself. The ones with multiple swordsmen or mages have all taken much longer.

>>124391687
Just remember that carnivory will be much stronger than zaibas on ground targets once release is around. 2.5k damage per hit, with 50 hits on total. All we have for druid right now is c1. Zaibas is still better than it, I would say, just because it can hit flying mobs, and that will always be useful.
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>>124391506
it's just weird that wizards are the support/buffing class and clerics are... also the support/buffing class, but slightly worse at support, but with five times as much damage.
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>>124391364
fuck you too transkek
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>>124391717
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>>124392069
Yeah, meant to say they have the same description, not image.
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>Korea 1: Offline
;_;
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>>124392069
y no more stream?
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>>124392069
Why is your skin grey up there?
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how good are hoplites endgame?

I imagine finestra makes their dps scale insanely well throughout because of the welfare 150 crit it grants.

Also they'll always have a tank spot if they want because of aoe taunt + finestra block.
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I don't understand the points. Why do I have 10k more on the left?
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>>124392321
Making a project. Education is important. Maybe later today if I manage to do it or someone helps me :^)

>>124392369
Some bug, or maybe it's "a feature", some sort of shadow cast by the helmet.
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>>124391364
Sure.
If Acid bomb is on a 5 minutes cooldown and has a high chance to completely flop.
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>>124392459
>Heineken
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Can you fall in love with boys in this game?
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>>124392672
Fucking disgusting. As expected of BR.
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>>124392459
ranking list doesn't refresh in real time afaik.
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>>124392727
>>124392938
report gayposters
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>>124384717

>Btw, Cure 15 is probably the strongest hitting skill in the game at high level.

Is Cure 15 the new EQ 15 meme?
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>>124393298
>Not liking cuteboys
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>>124389045

>None of the skills have overheat

They better be very powerful.
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>>124393342
38 hits * matk and holy element (best element in the game by far as dark mobs are the most numerous), you decide.
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>>124393342
It is still one of the strongest skills in the game, the only thing that doesn't make it the best is that it's still behind zaibas and carnivory in terms of how much damage it does.
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>>124392427
Hoplite c3 Doppel deeps is pretty solid, you can also get enough crit rate with Finestra lv 19 and gems to run a full STR build and hit like a truck. Hoplite c2 Kiritosair c2 is also pretty good if you don't mind taking Swordman c2 instead of Peltasta.
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>>124393342
kind of
cure has the potential to be strong just because it hits so many times and has flat int scaling, but it needs some retarded amount of investment to reach the level of other skills
it's also weak as fuck outside of bossing since the aoe is so small
almost certainly not worth taking cleric 3 for it
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What could this be?
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>>124393943
War of Talterium
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Parkaya Pravesha: Parkaya Pravesh means one’s soul entering into the body of some other person. Through this knowledge even a dead body can be brought to life.
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>>124393636
Apparently one of them, I think incinerate, is also a multihit skill similar to zaibas, cure, and carnivory. So that just means more damage for cleric.
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I'm starting to want a Templar more and more.
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>>124393943
What are the korean adventure journal rankings like?
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How much crit chance can you get with lv 19 finestra?
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Okay I'm gonna stream for a while, playing Cleric with new Heal.
hitbox.tv/Azebu

>>124394572
Broken. Everyone has 1.2m points.
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>>124394461
is this vote pole?
we democracy now?
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>>124394461
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>>124394653
inb4 Wakfu
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It seems that I can't log out of my shop character doing a kiss pose, but at least I can fuck myself
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>>124394774
wat fu?
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>>124394919
that`s the spirit
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Can someone post some made up featherfoot skills from your imagination? i'm desperate I'll take anything, I just need to get hyped and theorycraft asap.
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>>124395325
- Multihit skill who does damage and drains HP at the same time. Short range.
- Monster debuff who heals anyone hitting the mob (melee range only).
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>>124392427

I have a Hop3>Doppel and a Barb3>Doppel, both at level 200. I am currently leveling a Fencer (Barb3 too), and have a bunch of lowbies (memelander3, peltasta3, memedie3).

I haven't played Corsair or Rodelero, but I have partied with a lot of Corsairs2 (both Hop and Barb based) and a few Rodeleros3 (weird builds, not the one I would use).

If I have to go by pure damage output, I have to say that Hop3>Doppel easily takes the #1 spot as Finestra gives this build the advantage of full str, which no other build can do (and crit a lot). And str gets 10% extra points every rank, plus it makes Deeds of Valor give a lot more of attack.

Barb3 with Doppel felt strange. While it certainly has good damage, it is not nearly as good as the other one, and it still has downtime where the autoattacks feel simply weak (any autoattack compared to a Hop3>Doppel build will feel extremely weak). Deeds of Valor doesn't add stacks on dodge or block, so it puts this build on a weird spot.

Fencer is fine. Luckily I was able to get a Venier to test it's damage, and this feels like a much more solid build than Barb3>Doppel, as it feels like it has more synergy with a dex build and it gives the Barb3 something it has always lacked, which is pierce damage.

Barb3 really started falling off from level 150 to 177 (rank 6), I started to feel as if my build had plateaued and there was not much I could do to improve it. This was of course fixed at rank 6, Cyclone is an OP skill and makes any build instantly better, so for pure mobbing Doppel is better, but on everything else Fencer wins.

Memelander is fine, I haven't tried it at high levels but I have partied with a bunch of them, including a memelander3>doppel build. I have to say that they don't have much going on for them, I think they are perhaps close to a barb3 build, but in the end barb3 can just mob better because of seism.

Swordie2/3 is just garbage, and so is Lewdtasta2/3.
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>>124395325
> made up featherfoot skills from your imagination?
well ok
> i'm desperate I'll take anything, I just need to get hyped and theorycraft asap
i got you senpai

>Torture Trap: lay a Trap and torture your victim with kisses and feathers
see picture
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>>124395325
Blood Kiss

You bite your lip, losing a % of your max HP. Party members can suck on it using the kiss emote, recovering their HP.

If the kiss takes long enough, they will receive a buffer that add extra HP on top of their existent one.

At the end of the kiss, both the Featherfoot and the kisser are filled with ecstasy, allowing them to ignore damage for a short period of time and leech HP with every attack.
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>you can only upgrade your guild territory by using your guild points
>you can get more furniture, territory expansions and exclusive NPCs like harvest moon
>your guild mates can setup stalls at the guild territory like a giant bazaar

>7 days guild event
>the war system is based on ranking with multiple ways of obtaining points (crafting, beating guild dungeons, questing, gvg, etc)
>open pvp similar to a faction system between enemy guilds
>half of your guild points are taken after losing a guild war
>your guild can only declare war against guilds of the same rank or above

Make it happen, please!
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Did they just fucking shut down the majority of the instance servers? I don't understand why I can't even do party missions when every town channel is dead and there is zero chat in shout even.
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>>124396354
It probably crashed, as usual.
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>iCBT2 is ending soon
>kOBT isn't announced
>kCBT is closed
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>>124396981
IMC will announce kOBT shortly after closing iCBT2, their team isn't that big.

I would expect kOBT to launch late december, because Nexon basically forced IMC hands for a release. The devs said they weren't ready.
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>>124396981
I'm suffering more to the fact that Sadhu can't catch a break they just keep nerfing him
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>>124394171
>switch gender
It would actually be hilarious if rather than having cash shop stuff like name change and sex change, that was put on the players.
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>>124397320
TERA did it.
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>>124397267
Dat Cleric buff tho, and Possession fix (Holy damage). Sadhu will still be a thing, but OOB will not be part of the meta end game, aside from cheesing bosses and specific encounters.
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>>124397550
How did Cleric get buffed ? The Heal or I missed something ?
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>>124397550
OOB is my favorite skill in the game.
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>>124397705
Heal is no longer limited to 5 tiles.
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>>124397237
What? isn't this new kBeta kOBT?
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>>124397705
getting like a bajillion extra heal squares isn't enough for you?
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>>124397726
It's my least favorite right now since it breaks every fucking particle in the game.
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>>124397868
kbeta is still in kCBT3 (but they renamed it to TEST SERVER). kOBT has yet to be announced.
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>>124395325
Blood Bath - AoE Heal, deal damage to self.
Blood Sucking - Dark type nuke that heal nearby allies close to the enemy for some seconds.
Bone Pointing - Dark Type High DoT line spell, activate first time to start spinning, second to stop and show direction it will deal the dot
Ngadhundi - Poison type dot.
Kurdaitcha - Increases magic damage but causes you to lose health
Levitation - Basically hovering from falconer but for wizzie
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>>124397726
OOB attack speed got halved in latest patch.
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>>124397913
>>124397843
somebody on this board confirmed that heal is still 5 squares though
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>>124398178
I know that's why I'm suffering right now
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>>124396280
>>124396315
Delete these

I'm sure featherfoots are pure.
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>>124398194
Why does >>124380569 exist then.
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>>124398285
>Has a skill literally called Blood Bath
>Pure

Pure lust, I tell you.
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>>124396018
Is it worth going Holpite 3?
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>>124398447
Only if you're going Doppel.
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>>124398363
because somebody lied to me
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>>124398447

If you are going Doppel, yes it is. You don't get fancy new skills or anything, but being able to get more levels of Finestra is what gives the build the ability to go full str. A Hop2 build would still need to add some dex in the end.
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>>124398515
>>124398629

What are the best skills for Holpite aide from Finestra? I'm currently at Holp 1 and the Stabbing gets interrupted when I get hit, don't know if it's a bug or if that's how the skill works but it's very annoying, Pierce is alright and I haven't tried Synchro Thrusting
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>>124398194
He's a troll. I'm watch Azebu stream right now, and he's casting 10 cells heal (Cleric c2, level 10 heal).

See for yourself: http://www.hitbox.tv/Azebu
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>>124398728

Finestra, Pierce and Stabbing in that order, with one point in Spear Lunge, Long Stride and Throwing Spear. Stabbing only gets interrupted if you get knocked back or interrupted, but not on hit.

Hoplite is mostly an autoattack class, so skills are only used when really needed, like bosses, mobbing or to overkill with pierce.
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>>124398629
Can I use spear with Doppel skills?
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>>124399010
yes you can spin with a spear
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>>124398728
You only need Finestra, Stabbing and Pierce. When you get to C2. instantly reset skills to get Finestra 10 for that delicious 100 crit rate and add 1 level for Spear Lunge. Also yes, if you get interrupted while stabbing it does cancel out so be careful before using it.
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>>124394171
So Sadbu can control monsters now?
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>>124399005
Weird, my stabbing gets interrupted by everything
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>>124399153
it's sometimes lag on my end, but if you are getting pushed around, you have pain barrier
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>>124399153
>Weird, my stabbing gets interrupted by everything
It's a bug. Same with channeled skills like Possession.

They fixed it in latest kcbt, but not on icbt2.
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>>124399153
Didn't you get pain barrier? :^)
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>>124380569
>Heal carpet bombing
Now I really want Cleric 2/3. Or I would if they hadn't just got done nerfing Sadhu; literally all my builds are in the toilet now. Cleric/Krivis are all that's left that I care about, and I'm not sure those two alone will cut it for grinding.

Would a single rank of Druid just for Carnivory before going to R7 classes sound worth it? ro maybe Dievdirby or some shit.
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>>124398728

Stabbing, Pierce and one point in Spear Lunge. Finestra 15 (or 17 with Zega Spear), 3 lvl 5 green gems in weapons and sub weapon, two Sissel Bracelets and you can go full STR with 300+ crit rate at base DEX

>>124399153

You have to hold the skill key, not press it repeatedly because lags fucks it up
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I can't wait for them to release a super novice kind of class, imagine character that can get all 3 circles in all of the basic classes.

level 15 Earthquake + level 15 pain barrier + level 15 multishot + level 15 heal. It would be a god damn monster.
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>>124399476
I dont think a single rank of Carnivory is worth it, I think the Cleric C2 Krivis C2 Sadhu C2 should still work fine, the thing is that later in the game you actually use Possession more than OoB, assuming they fix it, and they also fixed the holy damage on it so its really stronk now.
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>>124399476
>nerfed means it's completely worthless now

love this meme the MOST
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>>124398194
Can confirm with another webm.
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Every wizard rank adds a damage and a support
>Pyro (damage) / Cryo (support damage)
>Psychokino (damage) / Linker (support)
>Elementalist (damage) / Thaum (support)
>Sorcerer (damage) / Chrono (support)
>Necro (damage) / Alch (crafting)

So now we have Warlock (damage) and Featherfoot (?). It's very likely they will be able to heal allies, probably by giving them lifesteal.
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>>124399690
do the squares heal less now though or did they seriously just triple your heal/damage output with that thing?
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>>124399690
>/tosg/ guild heal tile dance floor
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>>124399824
Patchnotes said they heal less now.
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What good skills does Doppel have? Deeds of Valor seems like it would get me killed. Cyclone is probably the only OP one.
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>>124399946
Considering they just got 4 new skills, there may be more.
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>>124399824
keep in mind nobody besides sadhu actually wants to go cleric2/3
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>>124399868
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>>124399882
What's the point? 12 of those probably heal the same as 5 of the current ones we have
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>>124399946

Deeds is great, 50% more damage and attack speed when they fix it. Def is not that important. Rest of skills are pretty bad though.
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>>124400069
Maybe to make cleric c2 viable? Besides sadhu nobody takes cleric c2 anyway.
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>>124400069
No that would be a huge fucking nerf to anyone who stick to c1 cleric, considerably increasing the difficulty of the game and shit.

I doubt they rebalanced the whole game based on that change, they increased the heal squares because the new content requires you to heal more.
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>>124392459
Adventure Journal being an unreliable glitchy mess is even on their Known Issues list
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>>124399882
wait, less hp % or the recovery?
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>>124400215
They are making Cleric C1 garbage by making the squares heal fuck all now. A swordsman will have to step on 10 of them now to gain full health instead of just 3
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>>124400334
That is correct, 5% now.
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>>124395325
Crush:
Grind a party member's embarrassing places beneath your soft, feathery foot to restore all of his health in exchange for all stamina.
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>>124400423
>People here actually thought this was a good "buff" to Clerics

It seems that IMC is killing Sadhu builds
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>>124400517
>>124396280
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>>124399697
Well, that's the idea, but
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>>124395325
>>124399697
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>>124385960
>Another tiny aoe that appears to be limited by hit count like all the others
Either give me something larger than fucking zaibas, cmon just a little bit, or give me something that won't fizzle out immediately when a group of mobs walks over it. Or maybe I've been staring at wizard skills for too long.
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>>124400642
Flat heal is still the same though.
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>>124400719
Flat heal is nothing, literally nothing. Do you think I'll heal a lvl 200 swordsman with 5 squares of 500 INT + 5%? Do you really believe I'll be able to heal a full party with 10 squares?
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>>124400423
>>124400642
so heal amount of 10 cells is equals to previous 5 cells. Seems fair. That's excluding INT benefits.

Heal was too strong for non INT builds (Monk).

Going C2 will give you the same heal, C3 a better heal. Excluding damage side, which is better in every way.

It's definitely a buff and a good reason to go Cleric C2+. I like this change. All 3 Cleric classes (Cleric, Krivis and Priest) are viable now.
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>>124400874
woah it's almost like you have to actually commit to healing/supporting, fucking unreal dude

kill yourself it's a good change
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>>124400709
nigga, that aoe looks fine
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>>124400995
Man if only going full Support/Tank was actually viable. Try doing that yourself then fuck off.
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>>124400995
Not really, before Clerics who didn't go support didn't have much going for them but they could still do something, now they're railed.

Though it's not surprising, this IS the game made by the guys who made Arde Dagger and Highlanders, expecting good decisions is fucking retarded.
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>>124401276
What's worng with Highlander?
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>>124400996

For a 20 seconds CD AoE that deals a shitton of damage and leaves a burn, I'm completely okay with that size too.
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>>124400423
Did they nerf the damage too or is that the same?
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Well, time to think about a new Cleric build, Sadhu and Cleric are next to useless now.
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>>124401087
>taking an extra rank of cleric if you want more healing is going "full support"

alright

it's simply a good change because now if you want a lot of healing you'll have to sacrifice damage for it, no even because heal does damage too

you are just a baby mad that you can't full heal with 0 int and 5 squares anymore
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>>124401545
Nerfed. My level 5 heal does 328.
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>>124400642
Heal 5 post-patch is 50% less effective than Heal 5 pre-patch, but Heal 10 is equals and Heal 15 is 25% more effective.

That's definitely a buff. The catch if that now you actually have to invest into Cleric.

That's a great change.

Also the damage part and INT bonus are untouched, so it's definitely a buff.
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>>124401567
my new favourite meme
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Cleric 2 > Krivis > Priest 2 > Dievdirby/Druid > Plague
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>>124401648
You're forgetting that number includes MATK.
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Where the new thread at?
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>>124385585
>main chamber only has 2 cards

good list imo
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>>124401873
Whoever makes the thread post that the beta /tosg/ screenshot will be in 3 hours Klaipeda channel 3.
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>>124401808
Heal amount if affected by MATK? I thought it was only affected by INT
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NEW THREAD

>>124402616

THREAD
AND IT'S NEW

>>124402616
>>124402616
>>124402616
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>nerfs out of the ass for decent classes
>bad buffs for shit classes

The game is dead, there isn't even any argument around it anymore.
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>>124402701
Before we played the game everyone was excited that classes would be weak so you'd be forced to party up. You faggots never know what you want.
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>>124402834
It takes a toll when all IMC does is buff Casualmans and nerf Clerics and Wizards, while completely forgetting they also have Archers in the game.
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>>124385960
Why is her Zalciai green instead of blue?

Or is that a Plague Doctor skill that is only a recolored Zalciai?
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>>124403079
Enemy zalciai
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>>124400731
Jesus Christ...
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>>124400996
>>124401438
>20s CD

complaints withdrawn, I'll deal with it
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>>124400731
Amazing.
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