/emugen/ - Emulation General

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>>124279365
Every time.

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Off to a great start I see.

>>124279980
Thanks doc.

>>124278715
RA on WiiU when?

More like "dead in 5 posts edition".

>See SCP now has a new fork
>way easier to use than the old one
>PCSX2 DS3 native mode is borked
God fucking damnit

Getting a Mario Kart itch, but haven't played since DD. Is MKWii any good?

>>124284273
>SCP
Why not DS4Windows?

>>124285826
>Why not DS4Windows?
Doesn't do DS3 nor pressure sensitive button for PCSX2 afaik.

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>>124284273
>>124286413
>DS3
>Why not DS4Windows?
I'm an idiot. Ignore me. Except for my Mario Kart question

Do you guys link all your emulated games onto steam? If you do, do you link just the emulator or do you use Ice to link your individual games separately? What's your favorite Steam Icon for your emulated games?

>>124289514
>Using steam for non-steam programs

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>>124289837
>Not having one program to neatly organize all your games, Steam or otherwise
>not having Ice so that it adds emulated games in an instant and with proper tags for each console
I'm sorry, anon, but I would not be able to find an anime face smug enough for this. I can think of literally no disadvantages to using Steam for non-steam games.

>>124289514
>Do you guys link all your emulated games onto steam?
No. Why the fuck would you use Steam? It's a fucking DRM program designed to spy on you.

>>124291132
>It's a fucking DRM program designed to spy on you.

So is Windows.

You can't play games without being spied upon.

>>124291132
Yet you probably use Windows, Google, and do all the other shit in life that allows fuckers to spy on you.

>>124291220
>So is Windows.
>Yet you probably use Windows,
Windows only spies on you if you accepted the new 7-8 updates or went to 10. Earlier versions have backdoors but not active spying without those components.

>Google, and do all the other shit in life that allows fuckers to spy on you.

No I do not.

>>124290625
Steam is slow bloated garbage, faggots like you drop by all the time trying to hook up PJ64 to their Steam library and end up failing miserably.

>>124291873
>Earlier versions have backdoors

Oh well thats ok then.

>>124292191
Sure, just set your firewall to block all incoming connections unless addressed to a specific program you have purposely installed for your use and even if they try to use the backdoors their connection requests will not be accepted.

>>124292067
>slow, bloated garbage
If you have 256MB of VRAM, maybe. Even with Big Picture mode and Overlay on, if you have a semi-decent toaster, it runs fine. And the only emulators you should have hooked up is pcsx2, dolphin, DEmul, and retroarch for everything else. I already have everything hooked up.

>>124292968
"Hooked up"
>Speaks like inserting links into Steam's overlay for emulators is plugging in a toaster

>>124291313

> Yet you probably use Windows, Google, and do all the other shit in life that allows fuckers to spy on you.

Look at this pleb

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>>124278715
I asked this a while ago, but how do you change the video plugin of mupen64 plus?
I'm on linux and It doesn't have an UI.
>Retroarch
I heard that it had some problems with it.

I tried google but a lot of guides are really outdated and most of them are about the configuration of the imput.

Halp

>>124291873
>Windows only spies on you if you accepted the new 7-8 updates

Do you actually believe this?

>>124294309
If you want to contradict it, post legit links to how 7-8 spy before the updates this year.

>>124293420
Yeah, I phrased that weirdly. I'm sorry senpai. I'm used to imagining links and shortcuts as cables connecting files in my head, even though that's not really how it works.

Wanna tell me how that relates back to emulation or even the steam shortcuts for emulated games conversation we were having?

>>124291132
Cause muh cheap games

>>124295838
It's PC. Games are free.

>>124294273
It's all done through the mupen64plus.cfg file.

Also, RetroArch is mostly fine for N64. It has a couple of issues, but for most games people will play, it's a superior option to standalone. More options and features, an actual UI, and no disgusting audio lag (easily the worst part about standalone mupen).

>>124281048
You can already install it on the vWii, is the WiiU even cracked yet?

>>124299753
Yes, it even has a backup loader now.

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>>124299814
see you in a week or two emugen

>>124300192
https://github.com/dimok789/loadiine/commits/master

Have fun. Remember the new Xenoblade game is out today.

Fucking worthless.

https://github.com/libretro/RetroArch/issues/2500

>>124300520

What kind of files are missing exactly?

>>124301231
System menu and fonts (which are copyrighted, so they would have to ship with glitchy free fonts). The BIOS pack in the wiki has all the files needed though, so this shouldn't be an issue for anyone here.

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>>124300338
>just checked
>little brother updated it even though I told him not to
>5.5.0

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>124303480
Don't worry, you're going to be able to emulate it soon

>>124303480
This is why you block nintendos update servers on your router. That way shit dont get updated unless you really want it to.

>>124303480
Nigga, it updates automatically even if turned off. You have to either keep it offline, or do what >>124304543 said.

>>124299328
and standalone is inferior to pj64

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>>124294273
>>124299328
Ok, I finally figured out the problem.

People was telling me to edit the cfg file. The problem is that I couldn't find it anywhere (not even when enabling "show hidden files" so I thought that those were outdated guides; BUT:

> https://code.google.com/p/mupen64plus/wiki/FileLocations

>>Where the heck are the files?
>>Due to the flexibility of Mupen64Plus and its cross-platform design, they could be just about anywhere!

So I just did this:
>Open terminal in emulator folder
>sudo bash
>sudo mupen64plus --configdir /directory/where/you/want/it/to/be

Why?
I don't fucking know but it worked.
brb, adding it to the wiki or somewhere.

>>124310556
lookin good

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>>124314009

Innit?

>>124317829
Noice

Could you try quake II or fear effect 2?
I'll try it myself but I'm traveling only with a 2gb ram laptop.

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>>124317829

Does it lag without the overclocking?

>>124300520
Why do end users must always make a big deal out of things?

>>124318513
why does retroarch break what is otherwise working in standalone? it's only human to flip out at autists on the internet. they are pervasive and fuck up what is otherwise good.

>>124318294
Sure, any specific spots where it lags?

>>124318440
Yeah, the first part there where it's at 20fps is without overclocking.

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>>124319075

That's good to know. Doesn't it break a lot of games? I would expect most games to be quite timing-sensitive.

>>124318741
Have you done any software development at all? Then you would know sometimes things break.

>>124318513
Would being a developer earn me a right to bitch and moan?

>>124319570
No, I don't consider myself a developer, yet I still bitch and moan. Call me a fucking hypocrite if you will =3.

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>>124319075
>Sure, any specific spots where it lags?
Quake II?
Not that I remember. That shit was made with wizardry.
Fear effect 2 (from what I remember) suffers from the "resident evil scene delay effect", where it stops for a little before getting in the next screen/scene/. Also, is kinda slow (not surprised when you see the NPCs and characters model and their detail).
It's still high level wizardry tho.
Pic related

>>124319367
At 1.5x clock most games I've tried worked - aside from audio and FMVs - at like 5x clock lots of things start breaking.
I can't test some games though, just because I'm building on VS2015 which breaks some things, and PCSXR is kinda broken on windows anyway (AFAIK the dynarec hasn't worked for a long time).

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>>124319882

Sounds like it could be loading related, not the CPU being the bottleneck.

>>124320056

Interesting, sounds easy enough to implement.

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>>124319882
Oh fear effect.
Why you disappeared

Where are all the emus?
I don't see any emus.

>>124319442
that's not about some regression; that's about the dev deliberately excluding files included with standalone which is causing inoperability.
ie: fucking autism

>>124321121
maybe he just forgot you fucking shithead

>>124321219

Not wanting to ship copyrighted files is not autism anon.

>>124319882
>Fear effect 2
>suffers from the "resident evil scene delay effect", where it stops for a little before getting in the next screen/scene/.
Didn't get that at all at stock speed from what little I tested, so can't say.
>Also, is kinda slow.
Yeah, pretty consistent 40-45fps. Oddly, overclocking by 1.5x makes it run at 30fps, and by 2x makes it run faster than normal at ~45fps.

>>124321219
unfortunately, it's not. it's a fucking pattern.
shithead.

>>124321309

Meant to quote

>>124321121

>>124321309
running a fine line there. if standalone is doing it, then there shouldn't be an issue.

>>124321493

Maybe standalone is made by a bunch of lawless pirates based in Eritrea?

>>124321645
if there is a legal issue, which there fucking isn't, then let the actual devs deal with it.
until then, it is creating unnecessary complications and further alienating a potential userbase.
it is fucking autism at its finest.

when is mgba getting shaders
(don't say retroarch, i don't want that bloated pos.)

>>124310626
The fuck are you prefacing everything with sudo for? Retard

>>124322391
newest build has a couple of shaders, but
use retroarch

>>124322670
s-sorry...

>>124321973
There is a legal issue since it is copyrighted. It is essentially the same as a BIOS and those are not included for the same reason.

>>124325827
this is exactly the kind of bullshit that I would expect from the team.
if it's truly a fucking problem then why is it available in the github repo.

>>124321493
Then they're legally in the wrong and are pandering to user laziness.

>>124326793
mudlord

>>124326413
Then you have less reason to complain since you can just download it from there.

What's the best torrent site for Wii games or Virtual console games?

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>>124335834

>>124326925
10/10

>>124336735
>sheeit

>>124307175
>and standalone is inferior to pj64
pj64 is the best N64 emulator.

>>124339327
>using malware64

I always download PAL ROMs because I'm European, should I really be doing that, though? Don't some games fuck up because they're running at 50?

>>124341105
emucr builds contain no malware.

>>124342407
yeah. if you don't download them, nobody will.
thank you for helping to preserve them.

>>124342564
>supporting software that uses malware in any way

>>124342717
So yeah some games do fuck up?

Hm, is this an emulator only thing or was it actually like this for PAL releases?

>>124342862
No, they don't, at least, if they're PAL games. Ya know why? BECAUSE PAL GAMES ARE DESIGNED TO RUN AT 50 FPS DIPSHIT.

>>124342862
with few exceptions (99% of the time those being games developed in europe) the ntsc version is superior in every way

>>124342779
philosophically i'm with ya buddy, but,
pj64 is just better than everything else.
no amount of shilling for mupen is going to change that.

>>124343052
The slowdown breaks things in some games.

>>124343052
Quite a few of the less popular older games were not.

>>124343146
PAL games tend to have bug fixes and sometimes extra content due to being released later.

>>124335834
if only the player name was emugen this would be a perfect OP pic

>>124343274
Mupen? Fuck Mupen, CEN64 all the fucking way.

>>124344040
THIS

What kind of fag needs gay shit like more than 20% speed or gimmicks like sound.

>>124344217
>gimmicks like sound
i kek'd

>>124344217
>>124344217
>What kind of fag needs gay shit like more than 20% speed or gimmicks like sound.
CEN64 has sound btw.

>>124341105
Funny you say that, I just installed P64 and asked it to NOT install whatever adware it offered me.

It installed it regardless.

>>124344040
CEN64 is dogshit playability-wise at the moment. Mupen64+ is currently the best N64 emulator.

There's also the stuff about optimizations that are impossible on Windows and only possible on Linux, which honestly makes me hope that the Windows variant of it will have a fork that has every optimization that Windows can support even if it won't be 100% accurate like CEN64 intends to be.

>>124345187
AND IT UNINSTALLED MY CHROME EXTENSIONS

HAHAHAHA WHAT A CUNT

>>124305010
Eventually console firmware and other software will update over the air through internal wifi chips from distributed networks across the US from other like-consoles and there will be no way to stay on old versions beyond living out of range of anyone else who owns said console.

>>124342564
r u sure

>>124345389
>Mupen64+ is currently the best N64 emulator.
What a joke

>>124346474
Or make a faraday cage.

>>124345125
>CEN64 has sound btw.
It has "sound". See those quotation marks? "Sound".

But yea, PJ64 is the best. And it's undergoing huge overhauls that will lead to it being multiplatform.

>>124343450
>PAL games tend to have bug fixes and sometimes extra content due to being released later.
Also, once we hit the 6th gen, a fair few high profile PAL games supported 60Hz, anyway.

>>124349456
Project64 is written in Cpisspiss and has no 64-bit cpu recompiler. Doesn't sound too promising to me.

If Marathonman is successful with making a dynarec, I think CEN64 will be promising.

>>124350336
There's nothing wrong with C++ used right, dumbass. Dolphin, Citra, and Xenia all use C++, and look how well they turned out.

>>124350549
>Citra, and Xenia all use C++, and look how well they turned out.
So emulators that don't actually emulate anything with even a remote level of accuracy?

>>124350549
Those are poor examples. Even BSNES is more impressive than any of the ones you mentioned. If you seriously think mediocre emulators prove that there is "nothing wrong with C++ used right", then I wonder if you even code at all.

epsxe is better than fpse on Android yes?

>>124350336
>>124354060
you're just jealous of people that can actually code. And if you can actually code, explain to me why C++ is bad.

>>124354060
Well, they do progress a lot faster than new emulators usually do. Also, bsnes is coded in C++ too, though that one has a lot of NIH libraries along with it.

>>124354890
garbage collection

>>124355262
cpp doesn't have garbage collection.

what's your point?

Anybody know where to find the list that have forced progressive mode in PCSX2?
Because it doesn't match the list of games that support it on the actual console.

I've been playing some emulated games on stream. If I posted my stream would you guys watch?

Are emulating the Shadow Hearts series and Xenosaga games possible with the ps2 emulator or are they unplayable?
Only games I really care about and doubt there will be remasters of those games

>>124361057
Shadow Hearts works decently from what I recall, Xenosaga on the other hand like to dip a lot regardless of your computer.

Should I emulate the DS or PS2 version of DQV?

best way to emulate okami is on ps2, right?

>>124362406
PS2 has a lot of missing effects in HW mode (including the filter and the whole drawing interface) and apparently even my i5 can barely handle it in SW mode.

the latest versions of PCSX2 have a progressive mode hack for that game which makes it look not quite as bad as interlaced on native res though.

If you can't run it in SW mode just go with the Wii version it'll look and run better (and you can use mouse for the drawing parts which is way better than waggle or stick)

If you have access to a PS3 just use the HD version it's much less of a pain in the ass.

>>124362156
PS2

>>124355247
>Also, bsnes is coded in C++ too, though that one has a lot of NIH libraries along with it.
Honestly to some extent, I think NIH is good. I really dislike seeing developers copy paste poorly written code.

>>124317829

>pcsx over clocking

God damn, that glitchy garbage? It's a fucking mess of out dated plugins.

>>124355262
>C++ suxx because garbage collection

Lol
I think you need to go back to your programming courses.

Or better stop arguing / whinning / advising about things you have only vague experience with...

anyone know which gba emulator has the least input delay? I usually use VBA.

I tried playing Rhythm Tengoku and it was unplayable. I completed the DS one with no issues (On an actual system though) so it can't be me just being shit at the game.

>>124368510
mGBA

>>124368510
Rhythm games are always harder in emulators due to the extra input lag over real hardware.

mGBA in RetroArch is your best bet. All the standalone versions are about the same.

Can you use hybrid wiimote with a real nunchuck?
the joystick gets permanently stuck upwards if I try.

Is there a SNES emulator that is in active development?

>>124369739
Nope.
Closest you'll have to active development is higan.

>>124369108
I figured it out, I just have to unplug and plug in the nunchuck repeatedly

>>124342564
They also have borked plugins

>>124369739
kindred gets updated every now and then.

>>124347021
What N64 emulator do you consider better then?

>>124350336
>Project64 is written in Cpisspiss and has no 64-bit cpu recompiler.
Gee, because porting the recompiler to 64 bit is one of the more complicated parts of the ongoing process of porting to 64 bit?

What's the difference between Snes9x 1.53 and Snes9x Next? In my subjective tests I've come the conclusion that Next has the least amount of input delay.

>>124380690
Snes9x next is an older version with a bunch of speedhacks added to make it run on low powered devices.

>>124381000
1.52 to be precise.

This thread has confused me, which N64 emulator is recommended? I'm using P64 for the GUI as I'm lazy, but this thread seems very conflicted.

>>124384867
All N64 emulators are shit one way or another, use what you want and remember to check the other ones if you get a problem.

>>124384867
Mupen64Plus-libretro for Retroarch exclusive shit like latency reduction and audio synchronization, and Project 64 if you can't into Retroarch for whatever reason, and GlideN64 (but watch out for the shills that live in this thread. GlideN64 is their sole reason for living).

>>124381000
Does it still emulate lag and all that shit correctly? The wiki rates its accuracy as mid tier.

>>124387740
I don't know because I don't use it but I doubt it accurately emulates slowdown, it might still have slowdown though just not really accurate.

>>124387740
No, only bsnes accurately does that

>>124387740
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCSv2CWJrnc

>>124378830
>What N64 emulator do you consider better then?
Project64 is better. I'd rather even use 1964 than Mupen64Plus. I'd even recommend the libretro version of m64p, if you're only concerned about HLE.

It's such a shame that Kirby64 is now bugged in M64p. It goes to show that they don't know what they are doing.

>>124389106
>Project64 is better

Can't beat RetroArch's spot on A/V sync

>>124361057
I hope you have a beast PC if you want to play the Xenosagas

>>124380350
>Gee, because porting the recompiler to 64 bit is one of the more complicated parts of the ongoing process of porting to 64 bit?
zilmar has little to no interest in writing a x64 CPU recompiler, hence why I made that comment. It's silly that there are people who are enthusiastic about using the 64 bit builds despite the fact that it only has interpreter.

It's sad that even Mupen64Plus has a x64 CPU recompiler.