/evn/ - Dead in the Sands edition

Please don't let two threads in a row die

What games are y'all looking forward to?

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>>124149753

Sakura Santa

>>124149753
sc2vn2

>>124149753
Enclave :^)

>>124148397
It's been a while since I've been on /evn/, what's been up lately?

I have in the mean time gone and worked on more programming, but that's really it.

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The YAMATO DAMASHII in this has reached critical levels in the first five minutes.
>Who cares that you're a dragon princess? I belong to the Royal Navy.
>Take me home so I can fulfil my duty to smear myself across the bow of an American ship.
>Fuck riding your stupid dragon form. My balls hurt.
>Trying to scare me with a sharp dive? You are no match for grorious Zero Fighter Plane!
>I, manly Nipponese army man, will now teach a dragon how to fly better by grabbing their horns.

>>124156390
You haven't missed anything. Some artist took money and ran like 5 threads ago but hasn't been named. Congrats on being productive with your programming

>>124148397
Make that three times

Is there an evn with lots of paraphilic/depraved content?

>>124156390
There's been a decline in the frequency of shitposting, and the threads started dying.

ded

Post progress!
Or bitch about something.

Dedder than ded

>>124166470
I'm creating using my daily job income as budget. Yesterday I was making a sort of prediction on how much I'll spend on all sprites.
5 characters, some facial expressions, some objects... U$ 330,00.
Backgrounds: 40,00 each, and there are 13 of them.
My main problem now is music... I have no idea about it...

>>124166470
I made an appointment for a quote for voice acting.

in spanish, because I can see if I can get my favorite VAs to voice the characters.

>>124166470
Trying really hard not to buy more synths here, but it's the end of the year and everyone gets desperate for travel money.

>>124166470
Progress: woke up at 5:00 today, expect to come home at 19:30. Another day wasted working for $6k a year. I sure hope I can start leeching wealthy countries' money soon with my indian blockbuster comic adaptations.

>>124169707
Just ded

Anyone have examples of some good gui in a game? I've been thinking of branching out into new designs.

>>124179619
That depends on the theme of your game. I find it cool when the UI looks like a holo-tech-thing when it's sci-fi novel, and when medieval stuff look like wood carvings...

>>124173121
progress: I failed and ended up buying one more

>>124166470
Why are my artists having a competition to have the most insane excuse?

>>124173121
Sorry for the ignorance, but what are synths?

>>124183602
what are their excuses, if you don't mind me asking?

>>124183654
The bad guys in Star Wars.

>>124183860
Oh, I see. I just though it'd have something to do with EVNs.

>>124183654

Anyone who uses a synth is a facist.

Mic a normal piano you pinko commie socialist dictator.

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>>124183654
Synthesizers. Bleep bloop machines that earn me a living.

>>124184728
When pianos make 28 detuned saws per note

How do you make a short game longer? Do you extend the story some way? I only know how to write short stories. They don't have gameplay like stat raising to make them longer, but I don't want to add time extenders that don't fit. What do you guys normally do?

Itch.io now has a board, which includes a forum for recruiting

http://itch.io/community

>>124191479
Good writing can carry filling - for example, Les Mis section about french sewers or LOTRs walking and walking and walking.

>>124181089
Cousin, are you going to fit in your room or are you going to be exiled by your synths?

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How can EVNs even compete?

>>124191995
No idea, cuz. For now, my harem is loyal and full of cute synth girls, but they already outnumber my family members by far.

>>124192565
Is this that maggots one?

>>124196214
That's hilarious because I thought that, too. It is.

>>124166470
I started commissioning background work and got another new one today that I love. I really miss doing them myself though. It can be relaxing

>>124196214
>>124198513
Are you both talking about maggots, as in maggotbaits the vn or?

>>124192565
>tfw can't draw
>trying to get better
My dream is to make my nukige ideas come to life and provide quality lewd entertainment just like my JVNs. One day.

>>124183825
The winner for this season of excuses is being in a coma for two months despite posting on a fairly frequent basis on their social media.

The most common one is their grandmother dying. The leading cause of death in grandmothers has to be having an artist grandchild at this point. Almost never their grandfather however. It doesn't elicit the same emotional response.

>>124201258
Very rarely do I get an e-mail when it happens saying there was a family emergency and they are going to be late on the commission. Most of the time it is a month after deadline and I'm asking what's going on that the grandmother suddenly died.

>>124201258
>coma
>a fairly frequent basis on their social media

Yep, but one month not two.

>>124201258
I was fired after my grandmother died, but if the employer had asked for proof I would've provided it. I don't blame them for not being able to wait though.

The pleasure of being cummed inside vn

live, friend

>>124192565
That just sounds like you're gonna have a bad time.

>>124201258
>Almost never their grandfather however. It doesn't elicit the same emotional response.

Aye, fight me

>>124211217
I would, but my grandma died so I can't make it.

>>124199787
I think they are talking about maggotbaits

What's trending in the world of vn at the moment? Gotta pander to the folks.

>>124217983

tits and gays, but not together (this part is important).

>>124218467
So my idea of a gay man trapped inside a harem protagonist's universe is a no go?

>>124218626
It's a go if he gets fucked by the actual harem protagonist in the end.

>>124219150

> BL where you steal a harem protagonist away from the girls.

I'm mildly interested.

bampos

>>124162490
Where did all the shitposters go? Was there a migration to somewhere new?

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Threadly reminder to NAME AND SHAME (con)artists.

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Who is actually going to play this game? Tbh 20$ just seems too much, maybe if it was 10.

>>124230435
I'm not going to purchase a game whose devs keep saying they're disappointed in it.

>>124230618

This. If a dev doesn't believe in their own game, why should I?

I can't speak of the price, maybe if the game is really long or turns out to be amazingly written...

>>124230618
>>124230756
>keep saying they're disappointed
Link?

>>124230618
I think it's more that the project took so much of their time/lives and was almost like a magnum opus. Now it's probably a pretty steady commercial release vs a really amazing game.

It's probably worth $20. The sakura games and a slew of KN are currently sitting at around 10$.

>>124230853
http://auro-cyanide.tumblr.com/post/125252854306/why-working-on-long-term-vn-projects-is-suffering
tl;dr
>The other primary problem I have is so much of my work for BCM is a long way below my current standards and I hate that. Especially since it’s meant to be commercial. Honestly I don’t want to sell it, I feel bad offering this to people when I know it’s not my best, but so much time and work has gone into it, and I’m not the only one involved. Fixing it would only mean years more work, so there is really nothing I can do, but I hate it so much.

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>>124231821
What the fuck, are they retarded? Why would they ever willingly admit that the game their working on is low quality to (potential) customers?

>>124232305
I'd prefer they be honest about it than hype it up as something fantastic when it's shit.

It is suicide on their end though.

>>124232450
Then why sell it for 20$ if they know it's shit and tell everyone it's shit? Just seems weird.

>>124232305
>>124231821

That's the artist talking about their work. I honestly don't think there's anything wrong with what she said. She's just being honest and she's right, if she fixes it again she'll likely just improve yet again and be right back where she started.

There's devs knowingly putting out garbage flaming bags of shit for money and the BCM devs are not it.

>>124233086
I don't care. If someone says to me they feel bad about selling something and really don't want to, then put a price on it anyway, that's a sign to me honor their wishes and not pay for it.

>>124233086
>That's the artist talking about their work

Considering it's a visual novel, if the art is bad then the writing has to make up for it. Can you see the writing being worth $20?

>>124233431
Isn't the writer a huge fan of Diabolik shit? And god was that a shitty game, it doesn't really bode well for a writers game when all they like is shitty writing from other shitty games themselves.

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Well, at least the gui looks a bit better now. A little bit too big though, for my tastes.

>>124234307

That padding though.

>Someone made a post in my dead lsf thread
I'm alive!

> people at tumblr keep tagging ML as otome

I understand that it's because of the confusion between "female-targeted" and "otome", but it triggers my autism.

... At least I hope that's it and not people actually somehow thinking it's otome, because then oh boy aren't they in for a surpise.

>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/afterthoughtstudios/a-more-beautiful-world-a-visual-novel
Anyone play the demo for this? It's too ugly for me to play on a whim.

>>124239591
>that voice acting
No thanks.

>>124218626
>>124219150
>>124219494
I am so into this. I want to see this. I NEED this.

>>124238568
I'm imagining a very confused player wondering where the female protag is.

By the end of the game they've converted to the fujoshi side.

>>124238568
Brace for a lemma thread blaming the devs for all the misleading promises.

>>124239591
>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/afterthoughtstudios/a-more-beautiful-world-a-visual-novel


Is this Spice and Wolf?

Which reminds me, I can pull off a "modern witch" thing in my project but then witch hats are gonna cost another dollar.

>>124246865
You can charge for custom hats on steam to compensate.

Where are you shit poster-kun?

>>124249049
What do you need, anon?

>>124249524
Shit this thread up senpai. No survivors.

>>124249906
They expect to find one of us in the wreckage, brother.

Human Exploitation Project here.

I'm adding a ship capacity/type/construction mechanic. Where if you're playing as a smuggler with a wooden boat as a starter, that ship would sink if you put more people in it than stated in the specs.

Might also add religion aspect to it, like if there are Christian refugees on the same ship with Muslims, the more likely they'll get thrown off.

>http://cliqist.com/2015/12/03/a-more-beautiful-world-shows-how-not-to-run-a-kickstarter/

Wrecked

>>124250765
Have we started a fire?

>>124251000
I can't wait until your updates start coming more slowly then eventually not at all as you peter out and realize you'll never actually make it.

>>124251110
:) I'm actually on paper right now. I'm just dumping additional stuff here.

The actual code is up until the part where the player selects who is he gonna play as.

>>124251324
>:)
Fuck off.

Mission complete

>>124251110
I can't wait for the opposite. I wish for /evn/ to be filled with nothing but Human Exploitation updates and progress.

It's not like anyone else is talking about or doing much of anything

>>124251542
It's not going to go anywhere. It's just another idea guy only instead of daydreaming he's posting it here.

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>>124251110
>>124251860

Why the negativity? Mad that your own game is fucking dog shit and will never see the light of day? Lmao'ing at you, you fucking faggolini crunkshit-tier kran jan.

It's going to happen soon anon, soon. I just need to finish my current project and proceed funding and building it.

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>>124251000
Hello sir, do you have a minute to talk about our lord Patrick Bateman?

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>>124252007
Woah there buddy, ease up off that projection.

If he/you actually makes something, I'll livestream myself eating my hat. You can pick which kind too.

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>>124252321
>projection
Except you seem to be the one projecting unto me. Instead of a hat, you can eat my wrinkly brown asshole, because that's all your negative mouth is good for, jitterkunt.

>>124252321
Eat a modern witch hat pls sempai.

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>>124252745
Whatever you say, pal.

>>124253229
I'm not your pal, fåm.

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>>124253229
Sorry shikateer, but you're not getting the last word. How angry do you even have to be to still try to defend your shit opinions with some shitty one liner, as if trying to imply you don't care? But guess what, you do care. Go have sex with someone, fag. And afterwards, make sure to tell them about how "great" your game is going to be.
Spoiler: It's going to be shit. That is, if it ever gets to see the light of day, llmao.

>>124253914
I thought that small circle above the "a" in "pal" was something on my monitor.

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>>124253947

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>>124253229
Oh, and I'd like to add on to >>124253947
and repeat what this stranger said >>124253914
I am not your pal. We will never be friends.

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>>124254256
Fuck, wrong image. I am obviously not crying right now. The fuck shit. Here is the image I had meant to post. Oh, and nice job posting worst girl from a shitty anime >>124254215
Not even going to say anything anymore? I weep (not literally for I am not a gab-gobbler) for your shit responses.

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>>124254256
>>124254478
Oh, I see now. You're lashing out because you're lonely. That "wrong image" tells the whole story. You don't have to be cruel for attention, you know.

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>>124254921
>cruel
Except you are the one who was lashing out first. See
>I can't wait until your updates start coming more slowly then eventually not at all as you peter out and realize you'll never actually make it.

So nice try. I think you're the one who is lonely which is why you keep replying. These smug anime girls will never fill the void in your heart.

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>>124254921
>>124255360
I don't even give a shit about exploitation reignite whatever fag. I just don't like you. At all. Doesn't being a Cumgrunter get tiring? It must, with how much you do it on a day to day basis. fuckin up, ay kunt?

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>>124254921
>>124255360
Can I film your amateur adult videos, guys?

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>>124254921
No response, huh? That is what I have thought. I'm going to go take a shower, not because I am mad, but because I am sweaty and it's ninety degrees and I also have a chronic sweating problem. But guess what, this chronic sweating problem from my genetics will not make me as dislikable as you are. Giddy up, fuker.
>>124256053
Stay out of our business, this doesn't concern you.

This is the only place that I think is safe to post anything about the project. Welp.

>>124256805
Pls post.

What is this, smuganimegirl.jpg hour?

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>>124257265
Check the file names, ass, not all are jpg, so shove it up your fuckening squid hole before opening it and spewing.

There has to be a better way to keep the thread alive than this

The fire rises.

>>124260326
NO BROTHER THEY EXPECT THIS THREAD IN THE ARCHIVES

>>124259986
Well, we can try discussing something like why you think your game is shit

>>124233867
I think the irony is that she loves those games yet is a hardcore social justice blogger too.

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Has /evn/ reached the end of the line?

>>124265045
It's not like it would be the first time

>>124259986
Yeah, like posting actual progress


oh wait

>>124262654
All women are masochists, that's hardly surprising at all. Diabolik is like the 50 shades for Japanese tweens.

Newbie to /evn/ here. Has /evn/ ever hosted its own jam and such?

aahhh...

>>124267787
No because no one here finishes anything

>>124267787
>Newbie to /evn/ here.
This was unnecessary. Your second sentence already made it abundantly clear.

ML anon, when that demo droppin'? How soon do you mean by soon? A week? A month?

>>124270391
>No because no one here finishes anything
le nodev ebin meme

>>124272073
Post progress

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>>124272858
added 849 words

>>124272858
Nothing. Too busy shitposting.

ahh

what, just because I'm on vacation none of you can be bothered to post screenshots and keep threads alive? plebs.

>>124277812
perhaps you should spend your vacation with us instead of fooling around with girls eh

>>124278019
>girls
gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

>>124272946
>>124273643
849 full words of shitposting? I'm proud, Anon!

>>124272858
Listened to 300 copyright-free songs, filtered 70 to re-filter later and use up to 7 in my project.

>>124270743
Before the end of the year, I promise. Real life has been keeping too busy to sit down and finish.

I start my december break today so ideally the demo should be online next week.

>>124270743
I'm not going to make a demo for my vn... I don't think there's enough in a nukige to "tease" without giving too much away...

>>124289675
Who are you?

>>124289675
Nukige get demos all the time. It's how you convince people to buy your product. Unless your game is like 30 minutes long or only has like 5 scenes I don't see why not.

>>124290480
Oh, sorry, I didn't know the question was directed at ML devs, I though it was just a question thrown out there, like a "post progress!" thing.

I'm nobody ;]

>>124291657
>;]
Stop that.

Is there any reason to not use kickstarter? It seems everyone fucking does it whether they actually need to or not, so I'm genuinely considering it just to get some extra funds.

>>124291103
I believe it will take 2 hours or so... and it has 12 eroCGs in it... maybe I could so something that happens in the middle of the story...

>>124291764
Failing and then having your failure be studied for years to come for how not to do their kickstarter. Failing and then realizing no one cares about your game and giving up.

>>124291747
ok, sempai :*

>>124292676
Really? I'm yet to see a postmortem concerning a failed kickstarter VN. No one seems to give a shit when a VN fails. And if no one cares about your game you're not gonna get sales anyway; in that sense it'd probably be a good way of gauging whether you're wasting your time or not.

>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/afterthoughtstudios/a-more-beautiful-world-a-visual-novel

This campaign is so weird. It just name drops any random game or VN it can think of instead of talking about the story or characters.

>>124293686
When people do research into how to run their campaign they look at deji's list and see what you did wrong.

>>124293693
because they don't have shit worth talking about.

>>124293693
I find it hilarious that they have S&W and Maoyuu's names so prominently in their trailer like they would be on a 'by the makers of' screen, but it's just 'inspired by'.

>>124293693
What do you guys think about having the promotional art not match the in-game art?

>KS thread last night on /v/
>Turns into a hybrid VN thread
>Some guy asks why are there so many shitty BL/otome/indie VNs
>Someone name drops /evn/

So... do you guys actually get a good following or money from making indie visual novels? Because 99% of these indies look like shit compared to stuff like Majikoi and Baldr Sky.

>>124295974
It doesn't? Pics?

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>>124296141
>a good following or money from making indie visual novels

>>124296141
>indies tend to look like shit compared to games made by professional companies
Woah. Who knew? This is the case in Japan too.

>>124296141
>So... do you guys actually get a good following or money from making indie visual novels?
The majority of people posting on this thread? No, because most of them have never finished a game other than maybe a tiny short free project anyway.

Some people? yes.

Plenty of japanese indies look like shit too.

If some guy asked why there were so many shitty BL vns, though, he was probably drunk or thinking about Japanese ones, barely any exist in the evn world so far.

>>124298984
>If some guy asked why there were so many shitty BL vns, though, he was probably drunk or thinking about Japanese ones, barely any exist in the evn world so far.

And even so, the japaneses BL vns translated to english are less than 10 so I've no idea what he's talking about.

Who's ready for 48 hour /evn/ jam next weekend? It's easy to make a vn with renpy so this shouldn't be all that hard.

>>124304881
>it's easy to make a shitty vn with renpy
ftfy

>>124304881
Funny. The people here can barely make progress, how are they going to make even a shitty vn in 48 hours?

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>>124171675
>music
gotcha senpai
https://soundcloud.com/dr-doomsday
I'm already making the music for someone else's evn, but I still have time.
Send me an email sometime.

>>124304881
Is this a shitpost or something actually planned?

> going through music portfolios
> being so tone deaf that they all sound exactly the same

fuck

>>124310313
Either you're really bad at this or they are.

>>124310313
That's... impressive.

>>124234307
Wait what those are the sprites? Ew

I want to run a kickstarter, but since I'm the project lead and artist asking for money for the art seems wrong... W-would I have to hire another, more professional artist in order to look more professional? I don't want to pocket, say, the 50% of the Kickstarter money for myself. It looks unfair.

>>124314006

See, thinking like this will almost guarantee you find yourself overwhelmed. Can you actually afford to provide the equivalent of 50% of the funds for free?

Just word it like "salaries" or something.

>>124314006
Why do you need money for art if you're the artist? KS is for getting funds you need to make and finish your game. It's not something you do for the hell of it.

>>124314986
That's a silly question.

Is heterochromia ever ok?

>>124316092
It's never not okay. Why are you even asking.

>>124316092
Sure. Just don't overdo it.

>>124314006
You're getting paid for your own time and can use the funds to better the game in a variety of other ways. It is an individual's own decision whether or not they decide to pledge. As long as you're transparent and honest, then nobody should blame you for having a kickstarter.

Honesty and making money don't often go hand in hand however.

Getting new background art is such a highlight of my day I hardly think about anything else.

>>124320149
Let me see. I want it to be the highlight of my day too.

Hey!

>>124314986
>Why do you need money for art if you're the artist?
To pay yourself to work on your project so you don't have to work your fulltime job to survive?

>>124331414
Just do a patreon then.

>>124331874

Visual Novels don't really work with the patreon system, and patreon is super easy to cheat.

>>124331874
Plus you need to already have a large following to get anything substantial on patreon. An audience that takes years to accumulate.

> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1159578400/heart-of-an-angel-broken-wings

> 20k for this.

>>124333010
A+ campaign page, my interest is piqued and I have faith in this team.

>>124333010
Is this a troll project? It's been up for a while, too.

>>124333010
>tfw I want to make a KS for buying a new pc

>>124333584
Include it in the development costs in your VN's KS.

> all the evns that look remotely interesting still are pretty far away from being released.

>>124335939
>interested in a few evns
>they get delayed for at least another year
Sounds about right

>>124333584
I've had people I spoke to once aggressively forward me indiegogo links to fund them buying a new computer

>>124335939
Never pay attention to WIPs, anon. That way lies only madness.

>>124335939
People making monthly vn when? It would draw a vast amout of attention like Sakura gimmicks.

>>124339728
Any links? I gotta see this.

>>124341476
Impossible. People would have to find an artist whose willing to actually turn in shit on time. And a month? Shits impossible, fammy.

>>124341873
Presumably you'd do them all in advance but yeah it would be difficult to find a steady artist for any aspect of the vn. Writing for something like that could be done in a week though.

>>124341873
If you have a game that covers a long time period and uses almost no CGs, just sprites and backgrounds, you could release updates every month. Not whole VNs, but at least new content updates.

>>124342943
That's a lot of words to say episodic monthly VN.

>>124333010
Their KS is so full of typos I want to back them JUST to see what fuckery comes out of it.

Sign them, Sekai.

>>124344894
If you like typos go pick up any esl demo on lemmsoft.

>>124345496
But this one has the balls to put up a kickstarter. THAT'S what makes it appealing.

It's like that stupid mashed potatoes kickstarter.

>>124345895
There's a difference between being earnest yet dumb as a rock and randumb ironic cash grabs.

Is there a market for netorare in evn?

>>124346051
There is a market for just about any fetish you can think of. Man's dick knows no bounds.

>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1736020914/deleez-cookies

With how poorly managed this project is I'm surprised they didn't use stock sprites.

>>124346051
Judging by girlfriend stealer, which had support from christine love and a very low unreached goal; no. Dont let it stop you, I love ntr

>>124346591
You mean Boyfriend Stealer? It was abruptly cancelled and no one knew it existed. The only reason I even know about it is because I'm in these threads.

Hey /evn/ I challenge you guys to make a prefundia page for your respective projects.

>>124347838
No thanks.

I'm so stuck on writing. Every time I write the ending, it just becomes part of the middle, and it never ends. Please let wise advice rain from the heavens
desperation

>>124348372
You can end on open endings. Just do that.

>>124350607
Don't people rip their hair out when writers do that?

>>124346318
>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1736020914/deleez-cookies
What the hell is that

>>124351459
IKR everytime I watch the video I ask more questions

>>124351459
>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1736020914/deleez-cookies
>Daleez
>Sidji

Holy fuck this goy is back.

>>124351808
Who?

>>124346318
What is deleez, and how come I've never heard of it until now, especially with that level of art? Is the original game that bad?

>>124343663
You need to use a lot of words if you want to whack one out every month.

>>124353139
The guy said there is no demo because no money. It's great art was wasted.

>>124350925
No. If they did, why would it be a thing?

Why isn't there a lot of shilling your games?

>>124355273
Everyone's too scared to post their game on big bad 4chan.
>inb4 well you post your game then

>>124353529
>a lot of words
This is why you wouldn't be able to make one per month. You have to think more basic and not so reaching for the stars. Something that's reasonable enough for a month and not years.

>>124355273
No one on here has any claim that they'll finish. Finishing is the important thing and people don't do it.

>>124353542
The art is so-so.

>>124353542
>no demo
>because of no money
Does this guy understand what creating games is about at all? That you have to provide a demo before anything really happens?

>>124355273
Not like i'd get any notoriety and 4chan is a den of pirates. Also /evn/ likes to poke bloody holes in devs they find a reason to hate. You people even attacked cyanide tea..

>>124355395
What's basic for /evn/? Do they actually have a standard that's just the meat of the chunk and not the useless parts?

>>124355251
An open ending can be disappointing to me personally. But it doesn't hurt to try it. Thanks for the idea senpai

>>124355273
Maybe it wouldn't be a big deal if everyone did it. I want to see your games...I'd try to be helpful. Dreaming of crit for crit

>>124357972
People don't want crit they want to be told their game is flawless.

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for screenshot anon while they're on vaca

>>124358058
So, what's the idol of the vn world?

>>124356947
What did they do to cyanide tea?

>>124358665
PyTom

>>124352220
Sidji, the guy who did Daleez Resturant whose WIP thread got sunk by the otome peak of '15


His thread was basically burned to the ground by "speak in English"-esque comments since everything was in French when he first posted.

>>124356947
All I've seen people saying recently is that BCM's sprites and main menu image are shit, which is true.

>>124358665
Omniknight?

>>124359209
I was referring to the discussion about bcm's price.

>>124359342
I think people will still buy it desu

Are we going to hold a EVN award ceremony and nominate best evn of the year?

Who's here and just not bumping this thread? It's a weekend, I know you guys are here.

Doing some outlining, family

if eel sick

I'm actually working right now so I'm just glancing at the thread every now and then.

Compiling a design document for a new project. Problem is where to host it anonymously. Any idea?

>>124359342
If you consider that attacking you need thicker skin.

>>124367805
Pastebin

>>124359889
literally why

someone please save /evn/

>>124379049
>[File]
>[Save as]
>File evn.vg already exists. Do you want to replace it?
>[OK]

>>124379049
I'll do it on monday

>>124359889

It would be cute, but I don't think there's enough of us to make it worthwhile.

>>124358058
Nobody here wants to be told their game is flawless, but they don't want to be told they're horrible people for even asking

where's my sc2vn lewds?

>>124383838
shotacon

How important are nice backgrounds to you?

>>124384643
>tfw no reva+femach femdomming stunt doujin

>>124382674

This. That being said, people exagerate the extend ot evn's meanness. We usually only talk shit about people that mess up in some noticeable way, promise and don't deliver, or are annoying on twitter/lsf.

People who ask nicely usually get good critique (unless the question itself is very dumb).

>>124384918

inversely proportional to the quality of sprites.

>>124384643
there's non-shota characters too, ya know.

>>124385235
No, really?

>http://danzzila.deviantart.com/gallery/
>check out sprite artist for quantum suicide
>gallery full of cuties and hunks
>game not so much

What happened?

>>124386184
sc2vn stands for shotacon 2 visualnovel bro

>>124387237
Drawing appealing OC is much harder than fanart

>>124387237

yikes, what happened? The dakis in the gallery are hot and relatively well proportioned, but the guys in the game all look akward.

>>124387250
>no scene where FeMach stole Stunt's v card

>>124387237
Direction?

>>124356947
>4chan is a den of pirates
The only difference between 4chan's piracy rate and other places is being allowed to talk about it.

let's be honest, I don't think advertising your game on 4chan is appreciated well unless it's like some fetish game.

>>124391428
Incorrect.

The new telltale announcements have made me realize that 1) people still don't know what visual novels are 2) people still don't consider visual novels games

fuck this gay earth

>>124391545
Buying advertising on 4chan tends to result in hoots of derision, even though it's someone else paying money to support your hobby.

>>124392718
Who said anything about buying ads?

>>124392718

yeah, but there's no such thing as bad publicity. People talking shit is better than not talking at all.

>>124392854
Hi Alienworks

>>124396525

It's true tho.

>>124396960
It's mixed. Properly bad publicity can indeed tank a business. Some kinds of bad publicity are just wasted - they attract attention but only from people who would never buy your game.

>https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/love-language-japanese#/
>Needs 25k for a game where the art assets are already done

Still mad

>>124396525
We would like to announce that we are working on seven new games! It won't affect HRP though so don't worry!

>>124397384

Yeah, but in the world of indie games publicity is the hardest thing to get - awareness, even coming from bad publicty, is heaven sent. Your game would have to be truly shit for it to harm you.

>>124397427

this game keeps getting shadier and shadier.

>>124392854
That's not totally true. Sekai went from the savior of VN to being a curse word around certain VN communities after several blunders. That's not the same as people hearing about how shitty Fading Hearts is and playing for laughs.

>>124397996

Sekai still continues to bring lots of $$$ to their vns despite not even half of them being done.

>>124398215
>despite not even half of them being done
At least they deliver right? Unlike some fucking studios delaying shit. It's all about finishing the job.

>>124397427
>making a game that teaches japanese so the readers will be able to buy more products
Why haven't they done this a while ago? It's genius.

>>124397618
>ITT: thinking people are idiots

>>124398907
They delivered already a translated game.

>>124398907
You sound angry at something in particular, anon.

>>124384918
Not at all, unless they're so bad they detract from the sprites.
Like GUI, I'll hardly notice unless it's jarring.

>>124402030
Actually scratch that, once in a while I do notice. Cyanide Tea tends to do some fairly nice backgrounds that lend a lot to atmosphere.

>>124384918
I notice them and I actually look at the details, but I'm sure i'm rare. Most people dont even give them a second glance.

Tfw can't ever afford the musician I like

>>124404024
that's okay no one cares about music anyway

>>124408508
Don't listen to this guy, anon. He's the type of person who is perfectly okay with something like Highschool Romance only having three tracks that replay on a constant loop. Music is very important, so don't take it for granted.

>>124409892
>yfw everything is important

>>124409892
I would say music is technically one of the least important things, because bland music still serves its purpose and I've never seen anyone say they wished a VN had better music unless it was total ear rape.

However, nice music is one of the things that can easily raise a 'good' game to a 'great' game.

>>124409892
I always just assume that people mute the music and listen to their own stuff.

That's all I ever do when playing a VN

>>124411818
I've never done that. I also can't listen to vocal tracks while reading.

>>124411818
I only ever do that if there's voice acting. Can't stand english voice acting.

>>124411818
Muting music during a VN?
Fucking savage

>>124411818
I mute music a lot but wow I'd never play my own stuff... what do you play? I mean there's no way you do stuff with vocals, right?

>>124411818
I turn the sound right down since spending so long with music/voices etc gives me headaches, but I still recognise how important music is to the experience when done right. At the end of the day, it doesn't have to be Hans Zimmer or anything, but I think having at least a decent soundtrack is a necessity.

>>124414535
I'll usually play other osts from jvn. Shits a mile better then royalty free shit.

I'd say music is unimportant for selling the VN and bringing in profit. This can of course change as evn become more competitive and people need to stand apart, but for now most people dont even research that you used free stock music versus someone who costs 200$ a minute.

I agree that it can only make a good VN better and shouldn't be totally ignored.

>>124415634
Royalty free doesn't necessarily mean bad. Lots of jap doujin game use stock music too. For example, many people said they liked 100% OJ's OST, but it's mostly royalty free. I also liked the OST of Ballad of an Evening Butterfly and thought it was one of the highlights, but it turns out it was just stock music.

For a not-exactly-but-still-kind-of-related example, Giant Bomb uses royalty free stock music that people genuinely enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2FDPgvm2l0

So, sour grapes time?

>>124419870
Ayy lmao. Good one, faggot. It's your own damn fault for spending thousands on music nobody even gives a shit about.

>>124419870
Are you referring to >>124419649 ? I didn't say anything about commissioned music not being worth it. Just that royalty free is not synonymous with bad.

>>124420127
Sorry you're too poor, I guess.

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>>124420325
Damn, you really do regret that purchase, don't you? Hey, I'm sure at least one guy will give a shit about your overpriced, "ripped off from some other game" music.

I don't care much for in-game music, but I love the idea of custom theme songs.

>>124419649
>someone else that's played Ballad of an Evening Butterfly
This makes me so happy. I loved that weird game.

>>124415634
Lots of jvns play a lot of royalty-free songs. Mostly from the smaller companies. Check out a nekomarudow and gyuunyuu soft(before they got really big). I'm not sure about gyuunyuu now since It's been any of their recent games in a long time.

>>124422464
They've rarely turned out well for EVNs, though they have been done.

leet leet leet

>>124427187
How someone justifies a 2k theme song is beyond me.

>>124428153
just license a nice song for a couple hundred and be happy

>>124428153

ML anon here - Voltaire is charging me $1500 and the way I see it, since I'm a huge fan of his, I'm getting both my own Voltaire song and a theme song for the game.

If you are not a fan of the musician you are hiring though, I agree that you can't really justify the dent in your budget.

>try a more beautiful world demo
>info dump on the third click
>further inspection reveals info dump, the game

>>124432483
ML?

>>124440067

Monstrous Lovers.

>>124440067
Militant Lesbians

>>124440067
Moody Lebanese

>>124440067
Mango Lentils

>>124440067
Meek Lawyers.

>>124440067
Music Licenser

>>124440067
My Liver

>>124440067
Munchy Labels.

>>124440067
Moot's Legacy

>>124440067
Miracle Liberal.

>>124440067
Mucha Lucha

You guys sure are desperate to keep a discussion going when there's clearly nothing to discuss.

>>124440067
Messy Load.

>>124449720
Who?

>>124440067
Mexican Lust

>>124440067
Monkey Love

>>124440067
Man Liquid.

>>124440067
Minx Leather

>>124440067
Massive Ladies.

>>124440067
Mother Language.

>>124440067
Messaged Last.

>>124440067
More Laughter.

>>124450193
The screenshots have left us and no one else is playing games.

>>124452210
When can talk about playing evn? Playing sunrider with default difficulty and it's balls hard. How do I get good?

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>>124450193
No good games have come out yet. It is taking forever, everyone is stuck in dev hell. But do not have worries, once the games I am waiting for come out, I will make sure to spam the thread.

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What are some good horror evn's? Pic semi-related.

>>124453558
I feel the same way, there's only so much I can gush about demos. But when the games come out I will talk you all to death.

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Wake up.

>>124454021
https://vndb.org/v5408 is at least somewhat noteworthy for the effort

>>124455215
What are some games you're waiting for?

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>>124411818
>That's all I ever do when playing a VN
People like you are why god doesn't talk to us anymore.

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Bcтaвaй!

>>124461471
What game?

>>124461507
Damn, you were quick.
https://vndb.org/v16532

The future of evn? http://traumendes-madchen.com/blog/?p=1319

>>124458680
That was fucked up.

>>124462006
Literally who?

Goooood

>>124433523
Funny what happens when someone who doesn't know anything about writing tries to write.

Can somebody talk about their game, please?

>>124470183
I'm working on a lewd game heavily featuring incest, lolis, and bestiality!

>>124470412
Post more art, I like your style kid.

I'm going to bed, somebody watch this thread for me.

>>124470183
Trying to talk an immortal out of suicide.

>>124470183
Harem with a bisexual protag and too much character drama with a side of monster fighting.