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Half our skills don't work properly edition

>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit

>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.
- Check your ping with the servers: http://cloudharmony.com/speedtest-latency-for-aws:ec2-us-east-1

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.

>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5

>iCBT2 Sign-Up (Closed): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.

>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Wednesday, December 9th, 23:00 PM (EST).

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Tree of Savior is somewhat unique in that the games translation is heavily supplemented by fan contributions provided at IMC's offical Github. Is this genius or laziness? It's both!

>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0
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>>123911573
First for bokors.
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>>123911573
So what do the paladin's non-battle clothes look like?
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cattly a qt
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>>123911408
probably, you don't have to go to 166, that's just the most efficient thing to do. There's always the 175 dungeon you can do to get more levels even though it's kind of bad exp wise, you just need to reach the 186 curve reset and everything is gucci.
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>>123911891
>>123911897
Where are you so I can bully you
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>>123911231
Nuale doesn't seem finished. Not only does she not have any abilities but when I ride her my camera centers weirdly, like you can see in the webm. I'm starting to think they intentionally made TS the best choice so people would use it, since a lot of other cards aren't finished/broken.

>>123911445
New character
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>>123912003
I'm in Kvailas Forest right meow! I'm trying to get an actual combat class to the area with desert chupacabras so I can grind them out easier.
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モンストランス
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>>123912206
If only you could smack shit with it
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What now?
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>>123912206
>they said I could become anything so I became shield
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>>123911841
I didn't grind until demon prison at all. All I did to get that far was to:

>Do quests
>Use cards when I was more than 6 or 7 levels below a map
>Do dungeons for 15 levels(50 to 65, 90 to 105, 130 to 145)

I did not grind at any place before demon prison, just played it a lot smarter than my first character.

>>123911921
Access to the 175 dungeon as soon as possible is better than maximizing my stay in Demon Prison.
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>>123911327
I don't know, but I tried monk to avoid pala C2 shit and ended up with a different type of shit.
Guess idk what I would be doing for Plague Doc. Now I'm just thinking about Druid to "fix" the pala->monk shit, 'cause kamehameha is also another shit.
And everything was fine until Rank 5 with Priest/Pala1.

>>123912375
Tell me how is shape shifting.
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So bets on what they'll break on the last week of the beta
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>>123912604
my heart
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>>123912390
>>123912206
Thaum appreciation thread.
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>>123912521
Druid is pretty underwhelming. Carnivory is like a giant Cure, except it hits 30 times spread out to everything on top of it and it cant hit flying. Transform and Shapeshifting are both buggy and kind of bad, there are some really useful transformations though like Pantos which gives you access to a massive speed boost.

Invincibilty grass is actually kind of fun but you still get knocked around, it doesnt block the damage.
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>>123911408
It would seem at first you don't have enough but... according to this you do

That said, even at lvl 190+ if you can leave there you'll have some exp missing so you should spend it at trees where the getting is good.

Your quest list for L8 cards is missing 3. (190 total)

That said, save yourself some hell later and just grind there a bit more than that level, trees2 is good grinding so I would suggest staying there at least 5 levels.
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>>123912521
Didn't use it much since only 8 class levels and I maxed out Carnivory first

I guess the attributes can be really good for some combinations, like evasion and bonus damage for Sadhus and crit rate if you went Monk>Druid

Almost none of the enemies you can transform to have useful abilities, it's usually just their basic attack. They sometimes have spells that straight up crash your game, too.

Some have a heal that you can use endlessly with no cooldown and pantos have a speed buff that makes you super sanic
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>>123912761
I decided to pop my cards now. Getting access to the 175 dungeon is great, and I want to get to Falconer as soon as possible, too.

200 is jsut a bonus.
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>>123912965
well go tell us if it works out then I guess
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>>123912761
How many level 6 cards are there
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>>123912750
>>123912801
Nice. One more broken class to the list.
The game is ready for OBT, guys.
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>>123912965
That's a mistake. 175 dungeon is barely a level of experience forboth runs.

You also would run yourself out of the range of 2nd demon prison experience thus screwing yourself out of one of the better leveling spots.

If you did do this I recommend: Minos (but there are HARD hitting mobs on the map), Roxona Market (mainly for money though), errr and I thin it was Istora was pretty good.

If you can take REALLY hard hits, you can do Roxona East.
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>>123912801
That being said there will probably be a combination of classes, gear and transformations in the real game that is super broken, no way will they actually balance mob skills well

The attributes give a ridiculous amount for the entire duration of the transform, like +75% max health
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>>123913158
I have no idea sorry, unfortunately on my list I just started listing what maps give what level cards at Lv8 cards, I'm not even half done with my experience card guide
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Hw do we revive /rog/ back to life?
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>>123910157
Arde'll be nerfed to shit by release.

>>123913207
It's worth it, I do it even though I can't kill the bosses (always die to some bullshit when I'm almost done killing it). If you're solo caster, take it one set of spawns at a time. If you're anything else, I have no advice because I only have one char who can do it who is a sorc.
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>>123913431
ehh, even if they nerf Arde all that'll do is nerf the early game for most classes. People will just get a Karacha dagger later
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>>123912423
Please post your results, am very eager myself to try out a tank if Alchemist and Linker falls through in kOBT.
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>>123913245
and +100% evasion.
Does the AA works with memeset/sacra/memedagger procs?
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Leather mastery add evasion, Plate adds hp, what does Cloth add? Mdef?
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>>123912097
The 2nd spell you did is super good, it sucks in most monsters on your screen like a super AoE Ice Pillar.
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>>123913503
assuming sadhu aa, yes

also every proc of carnivory, zaibas, cure and possession
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>>123913431

>shit

if the damage formula stay working as today, even if they nerf the fire dmg to 30 ppl would still use it
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>>123913236
>>123913207

175dung isnt that bad

it gave about 40% a run. solo. at 180+. before event
and except archer mobs, stuff is easy to solo
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>>123913431
>Arde'll be nerfed to shit by release.
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>>123913708
>rolling an archer
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>>123913794
But muh chaika
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>>123913931
Chaika class when?
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>>123913708
>memecher
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>>123914019
>open beta
>yfw dragoon, plague doctor and musketeer sucks
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Post cute doppels pls
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>>123914321
What is Featherfoot supposed to do anyway?
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>>123914321
jokes on you

i'm going memenobi
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>>123913431
>Arde'll be nerfed to shit by release.

No it wont. Why do you believe they'd nerf one item with elemental damage when tons of them exist? Karacha dagger is even easier to obtain than Arde, it's just higher level. If you think they're going to nerf every similar item then you are seriously overestimating how much Korean devs care about balance.
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Please kiss me!
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>>123914464
Life drain.
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>>123914476
What if shinobi is an int class.
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>Accidentally hit Swashbuckling while using a two-hander
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>>123914321
That's the secret of this game: All the classes suck.
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>>123914321
You can already say which class potentially sucks if they didn't have a multi hit in the trailer.
Featherfoot for example is probably going to be decent, with two short cd multi hit spells
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featherfoot + thauma's int&con reverse skill how OP would that be
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It took me a bit to make the webm because my computer was in japanese-mode because of VNs. Had to restart it and then I went to eat.

I hadn't bought any health upgrades yet as you can see in the webm, but I would have over 32k hp with all of the upgrades.

I don't think the attacks got any damage boost from hexing aside from the normal magic defense reduction since it usually does 515 damage for each hit. I thought it would do a lot more since hexing gets that attribute, but I assume that only works for effigy right now.

My gear also isn't optimal for this kind of transformation, I'm sure if I had all the damage related gear like the awakened stuff I could do a lot more, and I'm sure any ghost mobs would die pretty fast.

This seems like the only useful transformation for combat that I've found so far, any other druids should help me look for more. I looked in one of the later areas again for a non-elite large mob to transform into, and the only other one I could find was the rubabos, and its attacks only hit once.

I also went and bought sacrament and blessing from a pardoner and tested them out with the 3 hit attack. Sadly it does not add an extra hit.
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>>123914712
str/int hybrid

hoplite attribute suddenly has a meaning

desu i have no idea, really need some info on the skills to see what could actually synergize with it
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What kind of staff should I buy my level 62 Bokor? I've got 50k to spend
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>>123914825
Musketeer will be god tier, then.
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>>123914901
>Swell Head
>Blood Suck
I wonder how much of a hickey that would leave
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Slut tier: Sorcerer, Archer, Oracle, Peltasta, Highlander, Scout, Squire, Necromancer, Sapper.

Not a virgin tier: Rogue, Bokor, Barbarian, Rodelero, Fletcher, Linker, Quarrel Shooter.

Pure tier: Falconer, Swordsman, Dievdirbys, Sadhu, Wugushi, Monk, Priest, Krivis, Cleric, Psychokino.

Cutie tier: Druid, Chronomancer, Fencer, Hoplite, Pyromancer, Cryomancer, Hunter, Ranger, Paladin, Doppelsoeldner, Corsair, Schwarzer Reiter, Pardoner*, Thaumaturge, Elementalist, Alchemist, Wizard, Cataphract.

All you cuties deserve much love and kisses!
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>>123914971
So what do you think about going all STR/DEX/CON Cleric>Krivis>Bokorc3>Druid, making an army of the undead, and just joining in the fray with them?
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>>123915120
Which head are you talking about ;)
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I want Chronomancer to be good. Can you reincarnate bosses? What can back masking reverse?

I just really really want it
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>>123915307
PvP class
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>>123912110
Anon I'm not selling them, I'm giving them away. Do you still want them?
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>>123915203
The 3 hit attack on the big black griba is a magic attack, so what you really want is a good mix of int and con, but that at least lets you only deal with 2 stats instead of one.
It would be a great idea honestly if only zombies didn't do so pitiful damage outside of bwa kayiman, I think they still only do around 150 every bite, no matter what my strength is.

At max level spirit is also extremely important for the zombies, I think they get killed in 2 or 3 hits with the 20 spirit I got when I rerolled my stats.
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>>123914825
It's so funny that they parade balance, but this is literally what it comes down to.

It either needs to multihit or have a stupid high hidden multiplier to be worth a shit.
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>>123915390
no pls
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are there quests in the crystal mine secret zone?
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>>123915506
Yes
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>>123915437
>At max level spirit is also extremely important for the zombies

that's what I've been fucking telling people all day, I swear if it's not an absolutely MANDATORY stat to nearly max out on a Bokor c3. Wouldn't you think you should max SPR and like, INT on a cleric>krivis>bokor3>x? Maybe Druid for invuln and Carnivory? Which doesn't even SCALE with INT?
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i'm the only retard that has a lot of cards, did the demon grind until 167, had 147 lvl 7 cards, lots of lvl 8 but still only pops cards to stay in the same level as the mobs of the maps?

i fell that if i pop everything, i'll ruin the fun
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>>123915878
Yes
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I might have found the purpose of the stone in Spring Light Woods.
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>>123915390

>dispeller scrolls
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>>123916000
there's one with fishing rods and another one I think
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I need a meme dagger. Help.

Poor Sadhu on market channel 5.
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>>123914698
Fuck off you retarded fat shitnigger.
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>>123913708
>only useable by archer class
>level 170 req
OK I admit that 272 lightning attack is pretty absurd (and it has 19 earth awakening),

>>123914686
Because unlike the 170 stuff, it's accessible early with a 'good' drop rate (though karacha apparently drops alot, I've seen people wanting to sell recipes for 400k), and near on doubles your damage on lower damage multihit moves.

The awakening system just needs an overhaul to be more relevant I think.
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>>123915819
If hex and effigy even worked correctly int would also be really good with bokor because of the multiplicative effect of the third hit. Zaibas, cure, effigy, and carnivory all scale with int so I'm honestly glad I went with this reroll and pumped into int, since it makes me much more powerful than just a slightly beefed up double punch.

It might be worth it for some to pump con, spr, and int on a build like mine if they want more survivability for their zombies over themselves, I just want to see how tanky I can get myself with this big black griba transformation though. a 75% max health boost is huge when I have 18k base health.

I still agree with some that strength and dex is important for bokors though, at least while you're grinding at the demon prison. You should definitely give yourself around 100 spirit while grinding their though so harugals don't destroy them. Rerolling once you get out of the demon prison grind is probably the best thing to do, especially since you would become a druid after that.
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>>123916000
I've tried donating to it with no results. Please share if you find anything interesting. I gave 5 and was unable to do anything to talk to it after and noticed no buffs on me or in the area.
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>>123916212
I'm soloing it right now. If I get one after I do the 5 runs I'll give you one.
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>>123916153
Yeah, it's either timed, or you just have to sit near it for a while. The 20 fishing rod one gave a buff that's like +100 defense for 30 minutes... there's little use for it on that map (and fishing rods are pretty rare, getting 20 was suffering).
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>be wiz3 ele3
>feel horribly jealous of anyone who is a Linker
this game just promotes envy
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>>123915201
Where do I fall? I assume the asterisks on Pardoner mean the same as last time.
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>>123914674
Didn't noticed the last thread was about to die.
This is basically the last question for me about this game until the OBT, I guess.
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>>123916385
into the fat autistic shitter tier.

Fuck off
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>>123916236
how do you know those scale with INT? Where's it say that?

Also will we be able to re-roll stats in the full release game?
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>>123916304
May the RNG smile on us.
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>>123916349

i'm going linker at my r6, kek
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>>123916385
shitstain tier
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>>123916476
I don't know if it says anywhere on the skill but I've noticed a significant boost in damage after pumping int for all those attacks and the attack on the big black griba.
We also might be able to reroll in the final release, but it'll probably be a cash shop only item.
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are blue classes supposed to be bad?
>tfw no blue rank 5-6 class
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anyone have the gem chart?

>>123916000
there is one in fedi sub that wants zolem cores, gives a 5 minute attack buff or something, farmed 50 cores and donated randomly
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>>123916385
Kill yourself.
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>>123912446
>Do dungeons for 15 level
>I did not grind

Well, I mean, that's kinda a grind man
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>>123916426
There is no best card, the differences are incredibly minor as things are. Maybe when the four slots are used for mix-and-match like intended, but as things are just use whatever
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>>123916556
>>123916472
>>123916741
Friendly reminder that the harshest insult to an attention whoring shitter like Cattly is to ignore them completely.

Stop taking the bait.
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What was the point of people just jumping around while kiting mobs in dungeons. They still get hit
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>>123916905
animation cancelling, you need to jump around as a wizard if you want to auto attack because your backswing is long
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>>123916978
A Squire was pulling mobs for us and instead of just taunting and containing them in a small circle it was just pure chaos with him jumping around
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>>123916878
I see, thanks.
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How is Saule?
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>>123917073
then he's just dumb
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>>123913236
>>123913431
>>123913680
Guys, don't forget that the exp is kinda shit because you are almost at the top of the curve.

That menas that the lv175 actually gives GREAT exp lv 186+ because of the reset, even though, at that level, each monster only gives about 70% of its exp.
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>>123917108
loose
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>>123916905
If you kite properly you won't get hit. Jumping let's you cancel animations so you can still do your normal damage while moving around constantly if you do it right.
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>>123917182
Oh thank you very much I often forget this.
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>>123915201

Dicksize tier when
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>>123917108
Full of BRs, why do you ask?
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>>123916879
>calling it by its name
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>>123917271
jumping is dumb, just stutter step. stutter stepping wizard lets you auto faster than jumping and you don't look as dumb doing it.
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>>123917182
I take that into account when I do it, but it takes ages to run because I'm incapable of killing the bosses at the end due to my ping meaning by the time they give me a notice for when to evade, they've already hit me before I'm out of range. I've yet to get talt from a box as a result since I just abandon the dungeon after all my gear breaks.
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>>123917460
BR's are not always that bad though... are they?
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>>123917609
>stutter stepping wizard lets you auto faster than jumping
How would you cancel the animation that way? I messed around with it for a bit just now but it doesn't seem possible. Could you record a video of you doing it?
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>>123917524
My mistake, anon, thanks for reminding me.
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>>123917073

>taunting and containing them in a small circle

You are a wizard aren't you? You can get killed easily if you stay in one place, even if you guard. You are supposed to jump-attack them and try to contain the mob. Also most mobs will miss attacks if you jump-attack over them.

If it was pure chaos he was shit though
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>>123916385
higher than slut
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>>123917760
It's pretty fucking awful.

t. someone dumb enough to still be playing on Saule
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>>123917609
Jumping cancels animations for enchant fire, swell left/right/body, and reflect shield. Stutter stepping is faster for normal attacks though.
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I think somebody bought my memeed Rune Mace with a pic of Grita on it for 600k
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I didn't know I was going to make it ;_;
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>>123916494
Sorry Anon, 5 talts.
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>>123916385
you are successful Bait Tier. congratulations
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>>123918331
It's fine, you tried for me.

Back to public spam i guess...
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>>123918469
Name?
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>>123918271
buy warp scrolls for the other areas roll out
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DULLAHAN CHANNEL 1 GET IN HERE
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>>123916472
I'm underweight for my height though!

>>123916556
>>123916741
>>123917993
Please don't be mean, I just want to be kissed.

>>123918405
I'm not baiting anynyan, silly!
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>>123918530
My TM is Hearn.

I feel like a dagger would help, not even sure.
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>>123918920

70
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>>123918920
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>>123918660
Where does he spawn usually?
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>>123918920
>>123918982
>>123918985
I wonder if I only have 6 likes because I'm a bokor and rarely party with people. ;_;
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>>123919074
>be Sadhu
>somebody asks me what Sadhu does
>show them OoB
>get a like
>repeat everyday
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What the fuck does this mean? I can't log on now. Is their patch server fucked or something?
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>>123919260
Sounds like a DNS problem, flush cache maybe?
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Is farming arde dagger the fastest way to make money? Attributes are costing me a fortune.
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>>123918920
D-Do I win?
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>>123919481
farm world bosses, make millions off the overpriced recipes, Arde is as low as 400k nowadays when your attributes can start to cost up to 300k each
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>>123919260
Most likely a DNS issue, see if you're having an issue with DNS anywhere else (try going to purple.com, ibm.com, a few other sites it would have to resolve and you haven't been to recently) if issue is DNS, check if specified on both PC and router, if in router contact ISP if in PC note down what you had and try removing it then putting it back.

>>123918815
You are literally better off purchasing one and making money by farming to pay it off. The time invested in runs/etc, just isn't worth the trade off.
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release date when?

i want to actually play
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>>123918920
I don't have many likes because I'm not a slut.
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>>123919492
W-woah... slut
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>>123918920
i have 78, not even trying
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I am quickly approaching the point where my pet's usefulness will plummet, thanks to level gap.

Maybe if I dump enough money in its evasion, perhaps it won't die too easily?
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>>123919787
cant you just growl everything?
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>>123919563
You know, I noticed that Gabija sells Ardes for 400k, but Laima has them around 500-600k usually. But Gabija is more expensive for basically everything else
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>>123919787
Unfortunately they're meant to level with you if you actually level and don't gain almost solely from EXP cards, what a bummer. My pet was actually outleveling me when I was doing 2nd prison after awhile, now he's back down to completley useless as I'm 181 and he's stuck at 155.
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>>123919787
are you gonna falconer at r6?
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>>123919871
Damage is not the problem because Rush Dog ignores all defense.

The problem is that when pets die, their STA goes to 0, and their AI gets even worse. They turn lazy and unresponsive, not to mention slow.

>>123920028
Yeah, this is a really serious issue. Hunter is probably the #1 worst class to make as your first character for that reason.
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>>123919563
I can't even afford my attributes that cost 60k and take an hour to learn. I can't earn the money fast enough to constantly learn them.
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I like the friend I met in ToS very much, but I wonder if they see me as being that important in their life. Probably not.

I get really lonely in MMOs sometime.

/blog
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party quests from Fedimian actually give great exp!
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>>123920342
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>>123920205
how come? wouldn't levelling your pet from the start be good?
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>>123920192
Yes, this is the standard Beastmaster build.

Would not recommend unless your pet isn't already at least 140 or 150 before you make the character.
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>>123920453
Because your exp card exp and such doesn't factor into what the pet gets so you'd outlevel the fuck out of it.

Instead, you use a different character to level the pet then transfer it to your Hunter character.
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I'm thinking of what I'll play after this character is done. Might make something that mounts or a hunter or something. Does the hawk work with that?I have a velheider but I want to be a special snowflake. I hope there are better options at release. Maybe have some be world drops.
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>>123919074

half of my likes comes from the "wow cryomancer is so cool" effect

bitchies loves my snowball, tree and psychic pewpew
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>>123920453
You get the pet at rank3, around lvl 50. By the time you get him, he's already hopelesly low level.

He also doesn't benefit from your EXP jumps when using cards. Every time you use a card, you're leaving your pet behind.

I started this hunter when my Velhider was 133. he's 170 now. Had I made him around high 150s, he'd probably be relevant all the way to 200.
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>>123919439
>>123919649
I totally forgot that I cleared out my DNS for some reason, I normally use Google's. Looks like my ISPs DNS are taking a nosedive, once I switched them back to Google's everything is peachy keen and I connected instantly.
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>>123920453
Hunters were fucked from the start
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>>123920662
You can only use the Falcon as Falconer. They don't even let you buy it if you don't have Falconer in your build.
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I feel like alch jewing is essentially at its limit for this beta, basically all the low level areas have nobody, same for most of the high level areas. If it's like this after a barely month, I fear for the longevity of the final release. It almost actually makes me want them to lower rates or something.
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>>123913494
I'm currently on c2 right now. I'm beginning to realize that your boss rotation revolves around spamming umbo/rim blow in high guard, because your damage otherwise is quite pathetic compared to other circle choices.

Also, I was frustrated to find out that the poison attacks from the birds can't be blocked either, though I guess they count as elemental attacks, so whatever.

I really hope they add some way to block at least a % of magic damage in the future, as in, get staggers on enemies that attack you with magic. Even ghost-type wraiths that whack you with thier hands can't be blocked, and that's kind of bullshit for this class.

I'll need some more time and skill points to grow it some more, but I think I'm onto something with the high guard skillspam idea.
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im getting shitfucked by mobs in this fucking recommendation quest jesus fuck
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>>123920753
Oh really? I thought the falcon from Falconer was more of a visual thing from the abilities. I didn't know it was an actual pet you raise. That's kind of neat I guess. No wonder I never see them.
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Paladin's Barrier is broken as hell. Half of the time it lets the mobs go through and doesn't push them away when deployed.
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>>123920925
We knew that for quite a while.

You desert it
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>>123920342
Try asking them?
People aren't able to tell what you're thinking unless you tell them, and believe it or not most people aren't like 90% of 4chan, they won't laugh at you for being honest.
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>>123920785
Don't worry, when they implement guilds and WoE alch jewing won't drop as fast
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>>123920454
Won't you have to level the falcon too?
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>>123920785
all 'craft/create/sell classes' are down atm. so many ppl got to 200 so fast. thx xp event

the golden jew times are over
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>>123920342
If you do this >>123921067, make sure to take a screen shot of the results.
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>>123921240
I compulsively take screenshots of almost everything in this game so I'll have many memories to look back upon years in the future.
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As a Hunter, for as long as your pet isn't 10+ levels below the monsters, it's OP as fuck.

Nevermind the skills. He's nearly invulnerable to actual damage. He can take swarms of Wendigo Searchers and Lizardman Magician around his level, and only takes around 600 damage or less from them. On the rare ocasions they do hit him.
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I'm lv115 right now, and don't know where to level. How do you guys make it to the 130 dungeon?
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>>123921863
Quests should have taken you from 10X to 126~
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>>123920813
Peltasta is pretty easy to level if you grab the Cafrisun set and keep leveling Concentrate's attribute. Double hitting concentrate is strong early game. If you see a Pardoner with spell shop open you can grab Sacrament + Blessing for triple hitting both Concentrate and Blessing per auto attack making it way stronger than skills. Its what I did for leveling a pelt>rodelero alt.
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>>123922238
What quests? I've been doing Mage Tower and the 3rd floor is a bitch for questing. Can't find decent quest areas either.
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>>123920813
How long would it take to farm up a cafrisun set? I don't have the cash to buy it up right now.
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>>123922558
did you do all of the owl forest quests?
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>>123915201
>mfw all my characters are either pure or cutie tier
>mfw I'm a man
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>>123922590
Depends on how many other people are killing that monster. It spawns once every 30 minutes and there's 10 channels. If you're lucky a few of them will be around to kill. Usually you can get at least some of the pieces quickly.
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>>123921863
90 dungeon to 105/108, then do all quests from stele road tot mage tower to 2/3f? go do kateen and all the areas after that, then go back to mage tower. You should finish mage tower around 118-120 with current rates. You can either card to 127 for class advance, and then do the fedimian suburbs > forest of prayer line, or the reverse (fedimian suburbs > forest of prayer then card to 130).
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>>123920813
I went Peltasta C2 all the way to test it, and it's a meme class. You don't get shit for going C2, High Guard is kinda useless as it adds less than a third of the block you get by Guarding. The -50% atk reduces your damage by 80% thanks to linear defense being deduced flat, what completely kills any future rank's damage skills while High Guard is active. Damaging skills are a joke too, you're better off autoattacking.
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>>123922590
>poorfags
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Please aware me as to why people buy primaluce?
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>>123923005
I'm just hoping c3's skills are useful. That's all I'm in this class for at the moment.
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>Two blue mobs in a day
>Going from 91 to 94 and getting a class level from one of the mage mobs in Maus 3F
Maybe the game's telling me to just go swordie in release
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>>123923019
sorry for being on a server where the SELL PRICE is like 20k per piece.
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>>123923019
>unit price
>10
I'm sorry, what server are you on? I was looking at them on Gabija early yesterday (back when I would have cared) and they were a lot more expensive
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>>123923292
I went until lv 68, class lv ~12. I believe both C3 skield skills will have shitty DPS as well, since they don't seem to scale off your weapon the same way other classes do. Either way, you won't be able to do damage with them while using High Guard, which at lv 10 gives you measly 240 BLOCK that aren't really useful. You also can't crit. And your only option to keep using a shield is going Rodelero, which is the most useless class in the game.

Devs hate tanks. That's all.
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>>123923686
Change channels, yours might be bugged
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>>123923798
>And your only option to keep using a shield is going Rodelero

hoplite
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hue
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>>123923005
The flat block gained from High Guard is affected by the 25% block attribute right? If you take Hoplite after you could get an extra 20/30% block from Finestra for a good amount of passive block. The attack loss shouldn't be that bad at higher ranks if later skills have high attack. You just have to rely on skill damage more than auto attacks. And the point of High Guard is to allow you to block some attacks and use skills at the same time instead of standing around holding C.
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>>123923798
>devs hate tanks

You bet they do. For all the false promise of the counter-umbo damage, less than half of the bosses have attacks that you'll guard on a regular basis, and any class with c1 pelta will get everything they need out of the skill the few times they tank in a dungeon.

DESU, I think tanks are helpless without a party in any game. I was a tank years ago in a WoW guild, and it was the same deal then.
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this will never stop being funny
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>>123924226
This really irked the shit out of me when I first saw it, I was expecting a fat dude and I get this shit, terrible translation.
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>>123914686
That's exactly why they'll nerf arde... it has almost the same bonus damage as a lvl 170 item, only 95 levels earlier...

It should be like +45-60 fire damage, not in the fucking hundreds, they won't nerf the mechanics, they'll just nerf the item so it's strong but not the god damn best shit in the game and doubling your damage out of nowhere.
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>>123924151
>false promise of the counter-umbo damage

what
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>>123924017
My build for OBT will be Sword>Pelt>Hop3 for Finestra majesty. If they fix Blocking, maybe interchanging Spear+Memedagger with Spear+Shield for top utility. It's funny how Hoplite is a better tank than Peltasta, with its Block buff on Finestra. They kinda mix well.
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So like...how do you make BIG MONEY in this game? At level 65 am I just supposed to be poor? I've got 50k to my name

how do I make it 5000k?
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>>123921716
How much does your pet deal now?
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>>123924450
Demon Prison already gives you 3~5m if you never spend any dime while grinding.
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>>123924450
Level up. They you'd be swimming in recipes later, keep them first until you get some mats for some then craft then to either sell to npc or the market
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>>123924226
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>>123924494
2k+ crits, easily. More level fo Rush Dog don't give THAT much extra damage.

If I dumped several millions into atk and crit rate, shit would be much crazier though.
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>>123924450
You grind and/or get lucky with drops. Even just levelling at Demon Prison you will get probably around 300k an hour of just killing mobs not counting anything they might drop ontop of it.
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>>123924361
I was talking about how umbo-blow does almost double-damage on staggered enemies. It says to the player that peltasta revolves around blocking and punishing, something that can't be done on too many of the game's mobs. So many enemies have unblockable attacks, and even the ones that do often have slow AI. You're better off playing a class that doesn't have to wait for a block to deal decent damage.

C1 pelta > hoplite gets the best of both worlds, really. They get damage abilities to use when there's nothing to block.
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>>123924356
They've known about the power of the arde since before icbt even started. Why would they nerf it now?
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>>123924617
so you think just 1 circle of hunter can be good enough for rushdog damage?
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>>123924356
what if they just made it a high level rare drop instead of low level, that way it'll be just for twinked out characters instead of literally everyone
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>>123924753
additional circles of Hunter are just for giving your pet other things to do. The main draw being Growling in c3, and how great it works at CC. Hunter also doesn't have a lot of attributes, because you're supposed to just invest in your pet's stats.
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>>123924572
Why is yours level 1
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>>123924753
A single circle of Hunter is pretty good, I would recommend it, but only if you have a high level companion.

C2 has Retrieve, which is an OP single target, and C3 has Growling, the most OP AoE CC there is in PvE. The Hunter kit is pretty balanced at all circles.

At C1 I was doing 1.3k damage Rush Dog with a 13x pet, at C3 Iam doing 2.1k damage with a lvl 170.
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>>123924907
yeah i'm just gonna go with 1 rank only to get the stronger pet and and the auto rushdog

then ranger into falconer maybe, will see
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How do I make the boss spawn in the 200 dungeon? I can get over the gate but he isn't there.
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>>123924146
This all works on paper, but reality isn't so sweet.

Going Pelt C2 then Hop C3 is already wasting a Rank 6 slot while gaining too little. You might stack BLOCK that way, but you're going too far without damage just to get passive bonuses that aren't that useful. When you have High Guard up, all your damage is reduced to half BEFORE applying enemy def, so even good damage skills will deal shit damage during HG(don't even think you'll be using Umbo/Rim Blow offensively at higher ranks, their damage is shit). You could have more damage skills and more overall BLOCK if you pick a damage class and learn to Guard. You also get the bonus of being able to CRIT.

Just reminding you that all the Block in the world will still do jack against magic and Ghost attacks. Stacking CON is more important than any class or skill against those.
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>>123924986
Hunter would be pretty strong if they just made the pet level up at a good speed and gave rushdog an enhance attribute.
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>>123925039
You have to kill 2 monsters on the top right and bottom left corners.
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one thing that bothers me with the dagger is the awakening bonus. lot's of items get shit awks and the dagger has a wonderful one for mages... we knwo that it's suppsed to be random placeholder, but with the koreans, you'll never know
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>>123925227
Thanks
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>>123925248
>we knwo that it's suppsed to be random placeholder
sure we do
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>>123924561
>>123924563
>>123924632
when do you do DP? Luckily I hear Bokor3 rapes it

And when do bosses drop actual good drops? Best i've gotten is a 4k xbow
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>>123925089
Also give back the Companion equipment
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>>123924948
IT'S JUST A BETA BRO
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So am I done with prison 1? Only thing is the battlefield down there but I don't know how to get there. I never saw the trees people were saying to grind at.
Bee farm should get me at least a level or two, right?
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>>123925089
Lack of enhance attribute is basically criminal.

Hunter should get an attribute that gives the pet experience and scales similar to Enhance.

+1% pet experience per level
Max 100
Only takes effect while playing on the Hunter of course.
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>>123925725
The trees are in the Second Demon Prison, which is accessed through a hidden portal in Shaton Reservoir. They're basically Gust-spamming HP sponges with a good exp reward
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>>123925882
Oh okay, guess I'll go do the story quests at the bee farm then head there. Thanks.
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>>123919074
People like seeing my train, though...
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>>123926014
They hated me in the demon prison and insulted me if I ever ran a zombie train through a room while they were in it.
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>figure out how to pull enemies into broom trap
>at level 164
whoops
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>>123926124
Only thing I dislike about mass-zombies in Demon Prison is when those shits run around in an already filled room. My frames suffer enough without them and their flashing yellow contributing
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>>123926217
Turn off everything in the user.xml
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Big Black Griba is cute!
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>>123926412
But then I won't get to see all the wonderful flashes in any other reasonable location that isn't a 700 spider Demon Prison chamber. And those flashes are important
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Hello.
We are IMCGAMES TOS Team.

We will be performing Server Maintenance from 01:00 EST to 05:00 EST on December 1, 2015.
Game Service will be unavailable for approximately 4 hour.

The following has been changed/fixed :

Fixed the problem of the debuff effect from the skill “Skull Swing: No Jump” persisting well after its supposed duration.
Fixed the problem of the faces of Fedimian market NPCs not being printed properly.
Fixed the problem of level-restricted quest’s texts printed in Korean.
Fixed the problem of not being able to activate Dievdirbys’ Vakarine skills when in a mouse mode.
Fixed typos

Thank you for your patience.
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wew lad got stabbed
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>>123926635
such quality fixes.
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>>123926635
>Fixed typos
every time
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>>123926929
how's that build anyway? Archer>Ranger>Sapper2>Rogue2 seems really good/fun
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>>123926635
>didn't fix the channeling bug
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>>123927045
Archer 2, no Ranger.

Swift Step crit buff is bretty good.
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>have to wait until halfway into next year to be a plague doctor with an army of undead

also I imagine the male outfit will look better without the skirt/frills, might even make it a male just if it looks better
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>>123927163
you also get that multishot quick charge
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Anyone want to do the 130 dungeon? I finally hit 130 but the dungeon area is completely dead with no one around ;_;
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>>123927301
Yeah I forgot about that. Also very good.
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>>123927246
>have to wait to be a cutie cannoneer shoving her big balls down enemy throats
I almost wish I didn't know about them
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>>123927163
meh recasting swift step is annoying, and it also forces you into stacking crit rate.

I'm honestly going QS for the ranged stun on kOBT, at least that's OP in pvp.
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>mfw Brandish is wasted on c2 Pelta shitter
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>>123927552
QS Scout Rogues PvP quote me.

>>123927598
>c2 pelta meme still going full force
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>>123927598
It's just a beta.
I'm just as angry, but it'll all be gone soon.
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>>123926635
When are they gonna list the things they break along with the things they fix? You know, save us some time?
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>>123926929
>tuppin will never sit on your dick and grind it
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>>123927684
What is this meme? c2 Pelt is fucking useless shit. Fucking redditors.
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>>123927598

What's the drop rate of Brandish anyways, 0.00001%? There is many sage walls around and the drop rate is 0.01% so why the fuck don't we see that spear
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FUN TIME IS OVER

POST THE MOST OVERPOWERED BUILD IN THE ENTIRE GAME
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>>123928126
Everybody would use a Spear, but not everybody would use a Shield
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>>123928202
Pyrolinker, easy.
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>>123925725
Do the side missions, I see from that picture you haven't even talked to the kupole.
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>Soloing the 90 dungeon because no one is doing a full run of it
>Cockatrice damage
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>>123928126
It's a DPK item
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>>123927397

Please respond.
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>>123928204
The fuck are you even talking about?
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hue hue again

Those "no way someone tested this" quests are easy to do on Hunters.
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>>123928439
After the maintenance, I'm 2/2
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>>123928202
Considering Pyro-Linker is the only class in the game that can solo everything, probably that.
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>>123928428
No it isn't.
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>>123916476
If it's a magic attack, int improves its damage, period.
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>>123928508
I could solo everything on my Barb if I had a way to clip past the gate in the lv200 dungeon.
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>>123928202
I tried to duel a pyro-linker once and he linked me to a fireball and I died instantly.
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>>123928538
You could verify this fact yourself, by checking any database website if you would like.
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>>123927598
Someone actually has a Brandish?

Pictures or I don't believe it.

>mfw I NPCd a Gamble spear without knowing it was ultra rare.
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>>123928342
>>123928508
like only 1 rank of pyro and 1 rank of linker? that's enough to be OP? or how many ranks of pyro and how many ranks of linker?
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>>123928692
It's glowing red, how can you not know it's ultra rare?
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Welp there goes the levelling plan.
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>>123928692
What?
Where did you get the Gamble from?
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>>123928606
aaah, I actually didn't know that thanks
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>>123928636
There's basically no way you can solo Cerberus without having the ability to link. I suppose you can cheese it, drag Cerberus out of the boss room, and then bug it out, but I would hardly count that as killing it.

>>123928731
Pyro C2, Linker C1 is fine for most things, C2 if you want to do bigger pulls or feel like you need a longer bind on your Hangman's.
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>>123928770
Have fun missing an entire circle of skills for a while due to that.
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>>123928770
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>>123928770
gotDAMN
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>>123928918
yeah, that actually completely buttfucked me out of an entire free class advancement.
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>>123928770
That's kind of amazing
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>>123928413
I thought I spoke to everyone. I'm so bad at finding side missions. Where about is it?
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>>123928762
>>123928808
I am not sure how I got it. It was just in my inventory.

Curiously, looking at my Adventure Journal, it's not listed there. That'd odd, I swear I had it.
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>>123929117
Make sure to scroll all the way up if you searched the item name in your Adventure Journal.
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>>123928904
Spiritual Chain is really good if you aren't Kirito.
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>>123928770
THE FUCK! Thats amazing!
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>>123928770
Can bosses get blue?
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>>123925725
Can you please stop spoilering text that has no reason to be in spoilers?

It's really quite annoying.
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I'm level 80 and still not r4
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>>123929296
Did you hit class level 15 at an earlier level and proceed to still get class levels?
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>>123929154
I did, it's still not there.
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>>123929406
*at an earlier rank
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>>123928770
>censored

Quilin pls ;_;
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>>123929406
no, other than having to do like 2 quests because i didn't feel like skipping the bridge in miner's town
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>>123929249
I've heard of a white harpiea appearing before someone crashed the channel it was in, no idea about story bosses. If story bosses could be blue, that would be legit absurd as far as exp goes since with current rates bosses are giving an average of 80k per kill (which means a blue one would be fourty MILLION experience from one boss kill). World bosses is irrelevant because they give shit exp anyway.

>>123929296
Did you do what I did and kill a blue big kepa at level 14? Or were you one of those guys who hit class level 15 and then levelled a bunch more ignoring the big glaring "advancement" button?
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>>123928636
you retard! get a quest, finish it, don't turn it in, use the portback from the Quest at the gate and jump while you get lifted up - fucking magic and you're over the gate
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I'm starting to really regret going Sorcerer. I wish I went Chronomancer to test it out. I know it's broken but who cares it's beta. Are there any Chronos around?

>>123929291
But it's fun
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>>123929637
It's not fun it's cute.
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>>123929637
It's pointless and annoying. It makes me divert my mouse constantly to your posts.
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Remember to vote so you know what kind of people you're playing with!

http://strawpoll.me/6138164
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Druid is garbage.
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>>123929718
>what is 4chan x
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is the beta still going on? wasnt it supposed to end?
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>>123929637
When you're grinding the demon dick, you'll stop regretting you went sorc, trust me.
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>>123929637
just go Chronomancer at rank 6
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>>123929718
>>>/reddit/
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>>123929864
We're in the extended beta for players who hit Rank 6 during the last one.
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>>123929740
Druid has potential as a tank.
>>123926427
If I was level 200 and only put points into con I'd have 45k health.

Carnivory also deals some decent damage.
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>>123929637
It's Fucking stupid.
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Why is this allowed.
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>>123929718
Sorry I spoiled your time. Habits are hard to break, anon.

>>123929919
That's why I took Sorcerer, I've been using the same cryo 1 offensive spells forever and they really fell off. It's all going to be wiped anyway though so really, I could have just used all my cards and maybe got to c2 to test things out.

>>123929948
I'm mostly interested in c2, but I've heard masking just crashes the game so maybe I will. Whatever I guess, I'm sure there will be another closed beta, maybe with more class ranks. I'll give it a go then when I won't be locking myself into ice pike forever.
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>>123930056
This is a no bully environment, thank you. If you need to bully someone, please go outside and turn left to reach the "Bully Park"
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>>123930389
>>123930056
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Are they going to fix the Market bug, do you think?
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>>123928692
>>123878238
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>>123930389
>>123930479
Haha, nice posts my friends, upvoted.
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>>123929735
>Boy playing as a girl - 50
>Boy playing as a boy - 28
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>>123930679
Now that's just being hypocritical
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So after more than a month playing tos , I've come to the conclusion that there are no useless classes just awful class synergy. Am I wrong?
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>>123928019
20second cd
>Bringing in 5 more mobs is useless
pelt3
>Bringing in 10 more mobs is useless
Nice maymay friend.
Umbro Thrust and High Guard are useless
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>>123929997
do you mean rank5? because i just logged on my lvl 146
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>>123930743
No, it's cute :^)
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>>123928472
That quest was piss easy on my Pyrolinker

>>123928770
That should be against all the rules.
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>>123930873
Yeah, I dunno. You're not a very cute person. You can work on it, though
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>>123931032
Post your character shithead, I'll be the judge of who's cute here.
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>>123931032
Stop feeding shitters. Just ignore retards instead of making things worse.
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>>123931110
Close your eyes and imagine a future in which toasters are sentient and can drive cars. That's my character
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2 hand weapon should get double or triple the stat of a gem to counter this duo wield meme

imagine a reiter with mana-mana and 2 green gem, it gets more Crit rate for being an offhand, on top of the crit rate by mana-mana, and then the reiter gets to use another main hand weapon for more green gem.

And now a poor fag like you use a 2 hand sword and it only offer 2 socket for green gem. The reiter essentially get 2x your crit rate because he has a offhand.

This duo wield meme needs to stop now, it just kills any 2 hand swords and staff because any 2 hand user get less free stats and are garbage.

Also fuck you too shield users
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>>123930915
To be fair, gajiba still has rates 1.33x the other servers, so on the others it would've only put me at like 38 or something somewhere.

The overkill on the other neraby enemies removed the exp shown on the viewer that I actually got from the big kepa, but it was probably in the range of 1.23m exp after looking at tosbase data.

At least I can transfer a memeset to it and use that for a while since they don't seem to be selling anymore.
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>>123931396

we need a two handed atk speed buff
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>>123929060
The database would have them and the kupole is near Vakarine on her north west.
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>>123932030
Alright thanks anon. I'll finish up the bee farm then head back to grab those.
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>>123932115
Also after finishing the main quest in demon talk to the kupoles since they do give side missions.
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Post class themes

Bokor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWTaSNQULHE
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>>123928770
PFFFFTHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>123932115
Remember to go back and speak to the angel chicks after you've cleared the floors main objective, as t hey all have additional card side quests.
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>>123932225
>>123932282
Oh like the ones that gave me the main quests? Will do. I think I'm missing 6 or 7 tier-7 cards, hopefully that's where they are.
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>>123932350
Yeah, all of them have extras.
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>>123925725
>153
I never thought I'd see the day.
I finally caught up.
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Anyone up for lvl 90 dungeon? I just need one more run
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>>123915201

Holy shit anons. Why did no one tell me Wugushis were this lewd?

I never see them around, but I just got in a party with one and she was shamelessly showing her panties to everyone. I think I will have to move Wugushi one or two tiers down.
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>>123933223
Some classes are rare.
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>>123932620
Weren't you 110 or so last night? That was super fast anon. Impressive. Maybe we can grind demon prison together later?

>>123933223
I like you a lot and I don't know why.
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Never tried mages. What are good c1 skills to take?
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>mfw someone died or disconnected on a boss
>explosion of gems
>see monster gem
tanks for the fee gem
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>>123933345
Max energy bolt, reflect shield, earthquake until you're secure in second/third rank. Unless you're going further wizard circles you later re-skill into full reflect shield, lethargy, sleep. You very, very rarely use sleep and almost as rarely use lethargy though, so if you like the other abilities feel free to get creative. Just max reflect shield because it's at least okay.
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>>123933345

go for EQ 5, letargy 1, reflect 5, bolt 4

respec later.
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>>123933486
you can't pick up gems others drop
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>>123933578
Yes you can, they work the same as any drops. Or do you mean monster gems specifically?
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>>123933345
Depends on how much you plan on suffering. For easy advancement to rank 2, lethargy 1, earthquake 5, and whatever you feel like for the rest. Proceed to run to mines first floor ignoring story stuff (you can come back much later to do it, if you do at all), and then run to one of the plant spawns (one near the exit to 2f, the other is on the lower right. Lethargy a clumped bunch and earthquake them repeating that until the spawns are kinda sparse, at that point you either run to the other spawn and repeat there, or swap channels and repeat in the same spot. Do this until 15.
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Anyone else feel Twin Arrows (Archer c3) is pretty underrated?
100% attribute bonus kinda makes it breddy gud.
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>>123933779
It should have been a buff that makes your autos hit twice.
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I saw HoneyBingo afk-ing at dina bee farm and I liked him then ran away.
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>>123933663
I know for a fact that you can pick up someone's monster gems.
A huge group wave came in while I was leveling on time and didn't see the monster gem that dropped right before they left. I sat on it till I could pick it up.
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bitch just makin shit up now
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>>123933528

>rarely letargy

lol this murica.

letargy gives you the "double earthquake" and extra 20% dmg on your autos on everythings, helps a lot on bosses and it takes only 1 point
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I hope they do some really interesting things with attributes in the future. The ability to turn them on and off opens some possibilities.

>>123934010
no pls, I was studying. Come back so I can like you.
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For what purpose?
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>>123932254
Pardoner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHgxOXEQaFU
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>>123934197
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>>123934569
Have you seen the wiz3 linker3 yet? I don't even know if he can deal any damage to things.
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>>123934569
that's a top pve build in Korea, it has amazing sustain, double multihit spam, it's basically cheating with the right gear and skills.
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Oh god that Lizardmen that pops when you burn that epitaph vines in Namu Ruins is frustrating. Fucking throw in about 15 of them that has super high hp and magic damage on top of it. Who fucking designs quest like that? It's meant for you to spend a lot of money on with icoins. Fucking Jews.
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>>123934758
What gets me about that is feelings on earthquake aside, it breaks links 90% of the time. Really, Wizard is the only Wizard class that doesn't synergize with Linker.
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>>123934602
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVXnoanopzA

shekel shuffle
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>>123934758
I've seen the wiz3 linker3 guy already. He's a pro sufferer.

I wonder what happened to Diev3 bro
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>Defeat the monsters at Kovos Hall
Kill 4 monsters between 2 channels and spawns completely stop.
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>>123934870
Link -> Hangman -> Sleep -> Missiles will oneshot everything linked and shoot like 9 missiles out in random directions. Most of the time Missiles oneshots anyways, so you just need to link -> missiles to kill 5 things.

It's still terrible don't do it.
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>>123935164
>Back before anyone played and it was just the skill builder
>Everyone's pure support cleric build had Diev3
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>>123935164
I'd love to get an update on him, although I don't remember if he was in gabija or LoliPantsu's server.
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>>123933893
I'm perfectly fine with it not being overpowered as fuck like that.
Still a really good skill as it is.
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>>123933721
I'm pumping all to dex. Maxed bolt, Quake and Shield (dunno why I did this since I dodge everything).

I wanna take Pyro and then maybe Psy.
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>>123935262
I always forget that missile is a thing.
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so did any tried hunter3>falconer? do you get 2 pets following you?
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>>123934569
2 memes in 1 char

nice
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>>123935476
yes
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>>123931669
Wait what really? Gabija seriously had higher rates than others this whole time?

Jesus christ why am I even on Laima, life is suffering.
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>>123935323
It's like a double punch but with cooldowns. It was awful. A single level 15 oblique shot did more damage than 2 twin arrow shots, and then it ricocheted to another target. If anything they should've made twin arrows consume stamina, not enough skills do that.
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What is this? I have statue parts
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>>123935514
Yes. someone from an old thread tested it.
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>>123933578
You can on the initial drop, you can't if they drop it from dying.

>>123933575
>EQ5
>No sleep
Nice meme.

If you're linking at all sleep is the only skill that will stay relevant after WizC1.
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>>123935331
Serious question: Why on earth would you max dex on a wizard? your attacks hit 100% of the time and cannot miss (outsdie of magic missile). int is not without slight merit, and con would do you better.

>>123935514
Ever since the 2x exp rate event kicked in, another anon tested it and posted the result many threads back.
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>>123913392
>tfw no there are no one from /rog/ anymore
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>>123934569
It's probably the highest DPS build in the game. Spiral Arrow 100% attribute is pure destruction
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>>123934569
mfw 2 memes in one

That's probably pretty decent though.
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>>123935527
that's not a statue part its something else, keep looking
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>>123935516
That's because you didn't level the attribute.
It literally gets double damage from attributes.
Just put 1 point in it and level the attributes. Each shot is going to be more than double the damage of your normal shots and it shoots 2x for 18 SP per use and 3 times per CD. Its strong.
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>>123935640

>respec later
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>>123935502
shit almost all the good archer builds are beyond broken then
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>>123935527
They activate a chain of quests when you talk to a concerned npc when you have all the pieces.
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Is there any way to turn on the EXP numbers showing up when you kill shit like on the korean version?
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post progress
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>>123933779
That's the main reason why I want to go archer c3.
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I hope the new patch would break the game and make it unplayable
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>>123936140
Cleric.
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>>123935516
>15 oblique shot
WHY
Holy shit, the SP drain is real.
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>>123935643
To evade shit. I keep reading that INT and SPR are shit, so I would rather not getting hit than sit on my ass regen huge pool of hp.
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>>123936624
Please don't fall for the INT is shit meme.
Just stop.
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anyone here knows the tierlist at the korean meta?

besides pyrolinker and endgame pyrothauma, which combinations are rolling strong?
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>>123936496
>he doesn't have a diev3 dropping a level 15 -SP cost statue everywhere
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>>123936496
It's an instant cast multi-target skill. Why would it require anything less
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>>123936673
I'm melee type of guy, as I said I don't know jack shit about mages.
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Has anyone here gotten an Arde Dagger solo?
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>>123936624
Int isn't shit at all but Spr is almost entirely worthless and actually works against you in a lot of builds. Get enough Con to survive and then put everything into Int.
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>>123936729
Just watch korean gameplays on youtube
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>>123936881
Me. I always solo 50-175 dungeons.
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>>123936824
Because it costs 40 fucking SP per use. That's absolutely ridiculous for the minimal damage gain you get over just dropping 1 point in it for 1/4 the cost.
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Soloing the 175 dungeon takes forever.
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>>123936951
Same, I've just never gotten actual loot from the cubes. Sitting on like 150 talt though.
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>>123936881
ofc
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>>123937069
I've gotten a suncus,beetleback,arde, lots of cards and more talt.
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At what point does the level 130 dungeon stop giving any meaningful exp?
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>>123936968
The 175 dungeon is probably the easiest one to solo at the level you unlock it though. Can't imagine it being bad unless you are some retarded full support Cleric spec that doesn't have any DPS whatsoever
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>>123937250
Do it till 150, not like you have much to do anyway.
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>>123937320
Damn, I was hoping it was worth doing till at least 155
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>>123937461
gotta suck the demon dick anon
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>>123937296
I'm a pyro/linker/sorc. I've been at it for about 25 minutes (with a bit of wasting time between stuff since I'm alone) and have cleared most of the map, but I can't kill the bosses for shit.
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>>123936960
>caring about sp

Hi plebbit.
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>>123937541
You are doing something wrong then, you should tear through that place. The last boss is a Molloch and they are kind of a pain for Pyro, but you should be able to absolutely destroy any of the trash in seconds.
Do you have a Templeshooter and are abusing his S skill? Placing Fireballs down and then linking them to enemies?
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>>123937567
If you're the richest person on the server you miiiight be able to keep up with that SP usage and still be able to afford upgrading your attributes.

Everyone else would care when using it at that rate. That's probably the fastest way to piss away your SP in the entire game.
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>everyone refers to me as she because I play a girl
What the fuck happened?
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Maintenance is 2 am server time?
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>>123937831
We're all cute little girls anon
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I have a proto-druid with cleric 1 krivis 2 so far.

How many more bokors, krivis and sad2hus do I get?

It doesn't seem like they are going to fix effigy any time soon, but having a no cd skill seems like it would be a lot better than autoattacking 99% of the time.

Sad2hu would get OoB damage on zaibas/carnivory, which sounds powerful but I bet is a bug. Possession gets interrupted though and I don't really know how well all of my meme gear works with OoB.

More krivis just gets more zaibas which doesn't really sound fun.
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Does Wugu's poison not really scale? At what point does their damage fall off?
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>>123937767
Alchemist SP pots are cheap. I used lvl 15 Oblique with no problem and the damage gain was significant if you add attribute damage modifier.
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>>123937767
>richest person on the server
>Concentrated Level 5 SP potions cost 400 silver
lol
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>>123937831
Because you play as a fucking girl you retard.
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>>123937704
Nope, I feel like I'm at a disadvantage in a way due to the camera not giving me a heads up on what's coming enemy wise since this dungeon goes downwards not up/sidewards, meaning once it's in range to link I've already aggro'd it and it'll rape me if I stand still trying to do so. As a result, I'm throwing templeshooter into mobs via hold position, not riding it at all while it tanks damage, linking the enemies and flame ground/fireballing them once linked.
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>>123937929
You have no idea how many times you'll be popping those using 40SP every second, do you?
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>>123937840
34 minutes left onii-chan
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>>123938030
So? recipes you find go for 10-40k
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>>123919787
You're still using the Savage Bow?
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>>123929735
If the character is a boy, there's a 19% chance of it being played by a girl. If the character is a girl, there's only a 15.6% chance. If you want to find girls, look for boys.
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>>123936960
>there are still people that think 1 in oblique is enough

You are probably level 50 or so.
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>>123937906
Get C2 Sadhu. Possession being interrupted is part of a bug that affects all channeled skills right now. Effigy being no cd is the exact reason I like it so much, but it's actually shitty for a number of reasons and is kind of redundant with Sadhu.
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>>123938214
Its definitely enough with the attribute bonus.
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>>123937958
>>123937901
>2009 2011 2013 everyone would refer to you as he because there are no women on net
>2015 you are somehow she
fucking pc teenagers
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>>123938030
I'm Archer 2 at level 200 with level 10 Oblique that I spam inbetween cooldowns and I have no problems with money.
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>>123938085
And you'll be spending more on SP pots than that between finding them kekleos
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>>123938416
I take the 400 more damage including attrib bonus for a measly 28 increased sp cost.

>>123938553
Not really. I made way more than I spent and was much faster too.
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>>123938553
You realize mobs drop silver, right? Loads of silver at the higher levels?
You make much, much more than 500 silver every 30s when you are grinding.
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>>123938291
I could just go bokor2 though or bokor1 krivis3. Honestly I would only get both just because I want to try both, not because it works well.
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>>123937929
Not that Anon but...
400? Gabija?

I'm alchemist on Laima and I sell my Lv3s steadily for 600, normal price is 700-900 for Lv5

>>123937567
Again not that anon but..
When initially leveling up this is actually a big issue if you're not the kind of pleb who waited til after people actually got Alchemist. Riding the initial archer wave straight from the start using just small/SP pots (then Big SP pots later), you can barely cover the cost of lvl 10 oblique spamming, not sure about lvl 15.
L10 - 29SP
L15 - 40SP
SP pot - 288SP over 45s CD
You can oblique twice a second but let's assume you're doing once a second. In 45 seconds:
L10 -1305 SP
L15 - 1800 SP
Alch L5 - 445+623=1068 over 30s CD
Over 30 seconds:
L10 - 870
L15 - 1200
With Alch L5 you're barely covering L15 OS, this is NOT counting natural regen which depends on if you're stupid enough to invest in SPR

Either way while leveling, maxing it is stupid, when you have access to alch pots it becomes tenable.
Source: Math
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Is it maintenance already?
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>>123938426
People would address you as a girl if you play female character even back in 2001, you fucking nerd.
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Does anyone know where I can get Legwyn Family Gloves? Doesn't seem like a monster drops it or anything and there's no recipe for it.
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>>123938841
we have an oversaturation of Alchemists on Gabjia, potion prices are plummeting pretty hard
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Swell body stacks twice on bees and it's cute
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This guy is up? I think.
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>>123938724
In that case, try anything and everything. If you only care about effigy then C1 will let you test that enough, really needs to be fixed though.
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>>123938887
Wrong, you are he until you yourself would state otherwise.
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>going around all maps where the jews are afk
>crashing the maps
youre never gonna make shekels kikes
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>>123938974
Why wouldnt it? Read what your skills do, BRshit.
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>>123938974
OY VEY
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>>123938916
Necroventer Fieldboss in Legwyn Residence. Not the dungeon but the actual open world place.
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>>123938841
You also have small dowtimes between mob packs.

Using lvl 15 is no problem.
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>>123938974
You're cuter
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>>123935295
He was on Zemyna.

>>123938174
Yes. Still attemping to make a +15 one, too.
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>>123939256
Thanks, also do you know how much Earth boots go for?
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>>123938841
And you'd be using SP at double that rate considering you can use it 2x in a second.
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>>123937767
No problems here.
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>>123938974
Does it in turn net 4x experience?
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How much more XP do we get if we solo dungeons? I want to get past the 180-190 level gap
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So is Bearkaras supposed to be some race of monsters or a single monster? Because I keep on killing that nigga and he keeps on pulling a Jesus and coming back from the dead stronger than he was before every 10 levels or so.
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>>123939191
>

>>123939214
>>123939565
Still only doubles the drop. Just the size increases. I want to get ten Thaums together and see how big a bee we can make.

>>123939331
thx
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>>123939303
Small downtime should all of a sudden account for a difference of 1,512 SP if spammed? This isn't even counting the fact that OS can actually be used TWICE a second not ONCE.

We're not claiming a small amount here, we're claiming multiple points running at the same time wouldn't sustain it.

None of the small differences like SP Recovery (minor won't effect such a large difference or even be worth that of a potion), SPR investment (Meaning you would reroll later to get rid of it, so most people won't) or 'severe downtime between mobs'.

Assuming any place you actually care to spam it, the SP cost is untenable.

Furthermore the Damage:SP is not effective, I'd make a fucking chart but you sithlords will never just accept that you're wrong despite math proving it so.
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>>123939652
Small gets into medium then gets into large and no extra large?
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>>123939652
As you can see from that webm, they max at large size.
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>>123939690
I kill shit fast
I never have downtimes
I make enough of money to sustain this and even more


>BUT YOU DIDN'T BECAUSE MY MADE UP SHIT SAYS OTHERWISE

nah m8 go fuck off to >>>/reddit/
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>>123939690
>>123939303
Why are you guys even talking about spamming it with no downtime? That's retarded and not something you actually do, even if you have it at lv15.
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>>123939034
If you don't want to be called a girl, then don't fucking play as a girl.

People would address you by your real gender only when thy know you personally.
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>>123938974
Rabbee is Small type.

>>123939652
Spion is Medium.

Swell makes small grow to medium and medium turn to large. Swelling a small twice will make it go small > medium > large.
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How do I get to Rukas Plateau from Gateway of the Great King?
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>>123939785
>>123939820
Oh, well okay I misunderstood the skill.
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>>123939968
you press N
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>Fixed the problem of not being able to activate Dievdirbys’ Vakarine skills when in a mouse mode.
This is, without doubt, the most devastating bug that plagued Dievderbys. Thanks IMC.
Fixing this will greatly improbe the gameplay of the class and most likely elevate it to a higher tier.
Get ready to see a Diev or two in every party from now on!
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>>123939652
>>123938974
This shit is annoying on dungeons.
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>>123940247
Do you think they'll address the market bug too?
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>>123929735
But I play both.
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>>123940247
What bugs do they actually have? I haven't seen anything about them, just chronos.
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>>123940247
get a load of this buttblasted dievdirby babby
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>no Thanks xD

I'm scared
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Muncher stop being a shitter.
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>>123935919
Yes goy, be sure to do that too on official release. Thank you for your patronage.
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>>123940338
They'll be addressing the missing head of the market guy on Fedimian
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>>123939898
There are least 5 places I was able to level where I could do that and the results were good pre-150~
SDW, Penitenice, Ashrongs/Dandels, Constructor's Chapel (when other douches weren't around).

I'm sure there were a few others but I can't recall them directly. 2 of those are post-Fedi so you could use Big SP Pots but they still won't cover that gap.

Even if you consider you're only using it 1/4 of the time it's available (Once every 2 seconds) a normal SP pot (All you can get before Fedimian and before anyone goes Alchemist) isn't enough to cover it.

Not to mention my response was to a memeshit who declared you could spam it freely.

Let's take it astep back though let's say you use it once every 4 seconds (1/8th the actual use)

L10 - 29 SP (Over 45 seconds [SP Pot])
29 * 45 / 4
326 SP
SP Pot over 45 seconds: 288 SP

Using it once every 4 seconds, you still are over the top, this is however now enough to be covered by SP Recovery, perhaps.
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>>123940310
I always ask my parties before I start using it. If they don't respond I just swell the mobs that die quick anyway. If I'm linking a big group together they're dying pretty quick anyway.
Shrink is fantastic in dungeons though, 75% less damage.
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>>123940615

L1: 102 Attack 81% bounce damage 10 SP
L15: 446 Attack 95% bounce damage 40 SP

You can attack without stopping if you lfet it at L1, at L15 it is highly unlikely, at L10 you barely come close if attacking once every 4 seconds.
The flat damage is much greater, but this money in pot cost that you cannot regulate down based on leveling area early on could easily be invested into Attributes instead and points may be spent as their SP Sustain becomes realistic.

L5 at 18 SP is actually a bit more sustainable as it can be covered by normal SP pots with a little to spare.
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>Maintenance
Finally I can fap and watch anime
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>>123940615
>SP Pot over 45 seconds: 288 SP

Alchemy pots exist you fucking retarded shitnigger
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I'll miss you
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Why would anyone play Sapper when Pyro does everything they do better?

Flame ground = Broom Trap on half the cooldown and no spending your jewgold just to use a skill

Stake Stockades = worse version of Fireball
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Bokor is fun

tfw I won't make it to c3 before beta ends

also I didn't realize, the "Max zombie spawn" thing is only spawns PER cast of Zombify? You can have like...infinite zombies?
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>>123940615
>>123940737
Not to mention that flat damage increase ain't gonna mean SHIT when the level cap is higher in retail.
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>>123940787
I can play Fallout 4, again finally I've only been able to play on maintenances
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>>123940826
>Bokor 1
>Fun

How? I wanted to kill myself when I was playing one.
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>>123940884
Pretty sure I just ran past you two
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>>123940960

git gud
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>>123940920
Then the sp cost is even less relevant. Thanks for proving my point.
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So now that it has been confirmed that IMC is going to nerf Templeshooter in the Korean OBT, is this the strongest DPS wizard class?

Pyro C2> Linker> Thaum> Thaum> Necro
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>>123941123
wat
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>>123941141
>necro
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>>123940960
It gets even more fun??? When? How?
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>>123941141
>strongest DPS wizard class
>Necro
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>>123940825
Its fun
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>>123941227
CHOO CHOO
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>>123941141
>Confirmed
Is it? Not that it would be surprising.
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This guy scolded me yesterday for kill stealing his mobs
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>>123940789
Perhaps you should read the POSTS (plural) thoroughly you fucking inbred.

I gave the numbers WITH Alchemist SP pots and my point stands that while you can eventually max it, if you are not a shitter that is waiting until after the game is out for a week so you can use alchemist pots.

Assuming you are actually trying for something to be good and go through archer ASAP, you will not have access to Alch pots until 2-7 days in when people hit that point. Up until the point you reach Fedimian you will only have SP Pots which heal as much as I stated, after you reach Fedimian you will have Big SP Pots which aren't actually that much more (still not enough to sustain spamming L10 or 15 anyway).
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>>123940825
Because I can stab things later on for 50k twice every 10 seconds. What you thought the game ended at rank 4 or something?
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>>123939530
Where is your 100% Limacon?
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>says maintenance is 1:00
>maintenance is actually 1:01

IMC confirmed worst devs
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>>123941331
Keep talking out of your ass redditnigger. I'm having a good laugh.
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Its time. I'm actually nervous on what they'll fuck up in their last maintenance. Whatever breaks and we might have to put up with it till the beta ends
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>>123941331
You'd be waiting longer than that for the prices to drop.
I'll probably approaching the level cap before these nigs even begin their characters.
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>>123940825
>Pyro tries to steal Sapper's spot at constructor's chapel
>Blow up his flameground
>Switch to dagger and smack his fireball away
>Drop stake stockade on spawn

You were saying?

You're right though, sapper's CDs make it largely middle of the lane funwise.
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dead game?
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>>123941317

not good what you done there anon-kun
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So why do some people suggest grinding meme prison until 168 instead of 165? What does those 3 levels do?
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I'm thinking of a pyro2 > linker > chrono build, but I was wondering if anyone else has a chronomancer that can speak about how useful they feel it is?
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>>123941421
>Can't understand basic math
B-Better say he's from reddit

>>123941475
Yeah if they're that stupid I don't expect them to get anywhere that fast. Honestly I've already got my alch build planned and can hit r6 in 2 days but I've got a job and would rather not miss hours and sleep just to do it.
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Does anyone have any idea as to some of the differences between the korean version and ours? I really like ToS and I want to know how it's being developed, something us gaijins can't get yet.
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>>123941317
What a fag. If its not aggro'd to you and its not dead, its for everybody
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>>123941594
Right now half of Chrono's skills are bugged and don't work right. On paper they sound super strong though, Back Masking has a ton of potential uses and shit like Haste is always sweet
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>>123941627
Buttblasted redditnigger in denial. Delicious.
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>>123941563
It means you don't have to grind at 197-200.

This however doesn't matter at all because you can just do the dungeon like twice and get the experience missing.
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>>123941563
meme safety net
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>>123941627
youre in tosg people dont math here, even when its clear as day to people who do.
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After meme prison grind, do you just quest until 200? No grinding?
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>>123941723
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>>123941317
I was in that pelt's party yesterday.
>rude
>broken english
>attempts to be elitist in the 50 dungeon
>no attempt whatsoever to roleplay as a slut
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What do I play after the ToS beta ends?
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Blog post:

I made a new character on Friday, and today I got level 200 just right before the maintenance, couldn't take a screenshot but here is how it went, for anyone who is interested:

Day 1: Normal questing, timed my 90 dungeon runs to do 5 before reset and 5 after reset
Day 2: Normal questing, timed my 130 dungeon runs to do 2 before reset and 2 after reset
Day 3: Normal questing into demon prison grinding, started at around level 152 I think, and I decided to take the advice of that anon in other threads and keep grinding until 167.
Day 4: Normal questing and level 200.

I was really glad I took that advice, so I got to 200 really fast. Thank you dear anon, I know you are out there <3.
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>>123941835
you can quest straight to 200 yeah but do the 190 dungeon at least
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>>123941923
The game of life
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>>123941317
not goof
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>>123941923
Ragnarok
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I just realized the skill builder will update with new classes from the korean beta soon. Oh fuck I'm excited.
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>>123941923
Hope for another extension.
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>>123940341
Most of the time you place a statue it simply doesn't show up at the end of the cast (this seems to depend heavily on ping/channel load).
Sometimes the statue shows up, but doesn't do anything.
Sometimes, when you channel a statue and a boss throws/kills you, you get stuck in the animation until you teleport or relog.
They did something to channels though, so this is a lot less frequent than it used to be.

Sometimes the silence statue only silences a few mobs, and the rest of them keep attacking.
A lot of the time it seems like the silence actually only stops basic attacks and not spells.
Those two could just be due to mobs resisting the silence or something, though, so that's fine.
If you duel someone, they can get silenced forever, and even after relog the cooldown statue will increase their cooldowns instead of decreasing them.
This is also alright, I suppose, since duels are fucked in general.

And don't even get me started on owls. I have no idea when and how owls decide to attack, but it's completely up to them. At best, they seem to shoot three ticks every five seconds, which is alright (70k damage for l10 owls before matk), but most of the time they just don't do that and instead get kicked around by the boss.
The fact that the boss can move my statues while I can't is somewhat infurating, but not something I'd expect them to change right now, just like Ausrine only buffing one party member it could be a balance question rather than a bugfixing matter.

However, statues just not showing up, or showing up and not applying buffs, or me getting stuck in the building animation forever, or owls not attacking?
This shit adds up, the class isn't exactly very powerful or easy to use as it is.

>>123940356
I'm just kidding, this is actually great. Shows that they are finally starting to work on diev, so it's reasonable to expect more fixes later on.
Some bugs are easier to handle than others and this one seems like the easiest of the bunch.
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>>123941982
165 dungeon actually gives 6-7mil exp/hr (with 2x exp)
Trees give 3-5mil exp/hr (with 2x exp)

165 dungeon is legit people just skip it most of the time.

That said, congratulations.
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>>123941481

Alpha as fuck.
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>>123941317
Does this look like kill stealing to you? I was just roaming around to see if he needed help and pulled some monsters with me
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>>123942013
but i cant reroll
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So straight questing is faster then grinding until demon prison yes?

If say I'm 120 it'd be faster to just do all the quests and card then it is to grind at mage tower F5 right?
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>>123942127
So is it faster to stick with District 2 until 168 rather than grinding the annoying fucking trees?
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>>123941982
did you play for a 100 hours straight or something
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>>123942127
All I heard about the 160 dungeon was "it's short and it only gives hats" so I never actually did it. Was that a mistake?
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>>123941457
They'll break my heart.
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>>123941923
ASTA Online
kOBT Tree of Savior
Ragnarok Online pServer explicitly for PvP
MapleStory2

>>123942143
Anyone complaining about killstealing at chapel at this point in the game is literally a retard. They would ragequit in seconds if they were there a few days in to the beta when the majority of the players were there, it was fucking absolutely hilarious. I was KSing the shit out of this krivis, didn't leave him alone for 4 hours before he fucked off. Me and my friend told him we'd hound his ass down and KS him anytime, ran into him 3 times, KSed him each time, he changed his name or quit.
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Why did this happen?
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>>123942182
yes just straight quest to prison because the experience per hour you'd grind at Mage Tower to save some cards is absolutely pitiful compared to the experience you could've been grinding at 2nd Demon Prison if you hurried it up.
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>>123942309
That's what happens when you get the loading screen bug.
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>>123942123
Oh, I didn't know it was that bad. I mean, maybe they will fix some of those. Last time they switched a bunch of stuff around like zombie train getting canceled by attacks and something with Sadbu. Not sure if those are bugs though.

Actually, bugs aside how are Dievs? Looking at their skills they seem fun but terribly annoying to use because carve seems very, very underpowered. Long cooldown, high SP cost, and only a maybe chance of getting a material you need for a single ability.
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>>123942127
>Trees give 3-5mil exp/hr (with 2x exp)
Maybe if you are stuck with a full group and have to compete with loads of other people for spawns. Solo'ing them I never dropped below 7.2m exp/hr, usually I was sitting around 7.75m. If you have people in your group that aren't actually contributing much just kick them, they do nothing but lower the exp the people that actually kill things gain.
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Does the "Thank" emote ever actually get used for or interpreted as thanks?
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>>123941515
I'm a Pyro2LinkerSorcNecro and rolling a full CON shield build. If transposed INT will only apply before you summon stuff (and their stats will stay), it's better than my build.
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my game is full nodata ui strings even after verifying cache
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>>123942419
What class are you bro?
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>>123941982

class?
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>>123941627
Its better to just keep your findings to yourself and don't share it with these faggots. your an anon anyway nobody will remember you
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>>123942127
Now I'm thinking of using my cards. Uh oh
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>>123942465
Roll INT, you get the INT bonuses upon leveling. Its better for summoning and its better for transpose.
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>>123942235
The trees aren't really annoying.

Honestly if you can SOLO/DUO Isolation 4 than District 2 is fucking amazing, if you can't fuck it just go to trees it'll be better.

>>123942260
It was a mistake and someone lied to you. It gives a cube just like the other ones except it has 2 bosses and only one gives a cube, it's got some annoying "Go around and back" bullshit so traveling the map can be annoying but you can still complete both runs in 10-20 minutes (unlike fucking L130 dungeon..)

The bosses alone are great experience though.
L178 molich - 43k base exp
L178 Honeypin - 43k base exp

>>123942419
Maybe it's because when I was there Laima there were some cunt groups KSing and I found it easier to just leave the area if they were doing so (exp was not favorable having o compete with a 5man group solo)

Also curious though what class were you? I was Pyro3linker, but I feel if I took sorc I probably could have soloed without getting fucked.
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Krivis seems great
is that right?
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>>123942484
I was Pyro C2, Linker C1, Thaum C1 at the time.
I really don't see how you can only gain 3-4m in that place unless you have a full group with half of them not actually doing shit though. My gear kinda sucked too so it took me quite a while to kill packs
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>>123942127

I never see anyone doing that dungeon, and all I heard was that it didn't give good exp. If you have a video or something it would help a lot, maybe I will try to make another level 200 before the beta is over.

Thanks!

>>123942252
>>123942510


I think it was mostly about timing my leveling so I could do the dungeon runs exactly before and after reset, this way I didn't have to wait 24 hours to run the dungeons again.

I am also playing on Gabija, and I think we have more exp than other servers (?), unless that is a meme. But I played a barbarian and everything went really fast as I didn't struggle in any zone and kept overkilling stuff.
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>>123942584
senpai that's the 175 dungeon you're talking about, not the 160 dungeon which is just a hat mission
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>>123942541
But like I said, I'm not a thaum.
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>>123942235
The trees are pretty amazing if you know how to manipulate the spawns and travel through the portals with max efficiency.

My friends and I pretty much did trees until 170 and it was super fast.
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So, I played the Beta for a little while during the last days of October but I haven't touched it at all since, now I can't connect to the server.
OP says the second iCBT is not over yet, so what gives?
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>>123942465
Other than a few stupid mechanics (There's one shield skill or something that can be used where investing CON is better), investing INT will always be better no matter what you're going for as a thaum or whatnot.
1) One level of thaum allows for the investment and unless your build REQUIRED that rank for something else it actually syncs incredibly well with linker1 and pyro
2)INT scales WAY better than CON
At rank 6 you are getting 1.5X INT compared to CON
At rank 8 you are getting 1.7X INT compared to CON

If you absolutely need CON the safer investment is most likely a rank in thaum if you can fit it in comfortably.

>>123942619
Were you using swell body a lot?
Even when I was soloing unless the spawn was favorable and there were no other fuckheads around I was getting at MOST 5mil/hr (With 2x exp)

>>123942676
S-Sorry I said 165 and then mistaked from there. Just gonna go to sleep making mistakes like this.
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>>123942813
weekly maintenance, game will be back in 3-4 hours
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>>123942813
4h server maitenance
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>>123942813
Maintenance.
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Why are you morons even arguing about the efficiency of spamming fucking Oblique Shot indefinitely and how many shekels you're going to spend on SP pots? Plop down a goddamn campfire and sit for 3 seconds. None of this garbage min/maxing of your awful skill even matters until you're spending hours inbetween levels, also known as the Demon Prison grind. If your primary method of killing shit in demon prison is spamming Oblique Shot then you need to seriously rethink your build before you start thinking of your financial situation.

Even while leveling it makes zero difference. What are you doing with your cards up until you get level 7 cards and start saving them? You're using them for a quick and easy full heal via character or class level, right? You're using campfires when you're grinding in an area for an extended period, right? You're going back to your trainer to learn those 30 minute attributes then teleporting back with a saved quest turn-in, yes?

Please tell me you're not just taping down the Oblique button then crying when you hit 0 SP and cursing the Jewish overlords when you chug a SP pot and barely get any SP back. This isn't just a problem with archers and Oblique, it's every goddamn class. You don't see anyone saying "Yeah just take level 1 fireball as pyro it's way less SP intensive and it does good enough damage!" do you?
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>>123942813
Koreans lied to us it's fucking 9/11 all over again holy shit FUCK FUCK
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>>123934602
more like Alchemist
Pardoner and Squire is nothing compared to them
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>>123942373
Well I was more wondering what the faster way to 130 was so I should probably have worded that better but thanks!
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>>123942903
m-muh 150000000% damage multi shot!
m-muh 250% crit bonus!
Future prooof
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>>123942584
That's the 175 dungeon, not the 160 dungeon. Since I solo it (I make no attempt at actually finding a party), it takes me like 15-25 minutes to do without killing the bosses, and I just exit at that point because fuck trying to kill them solo with the ping I have.
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>>123942903
This guy fucking gets it
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>>123942868
>Were you using swell body a lot?
Nah, I couldn't kill the trees in a reasonable amount of time with it and figured I'd be better off just making up for it in quantity. The trees already have a ton of HP as is and most of my damage comes from linking and hangman'ing fireballs, so I'd rather start over on fresh mobs and just kill twice as many. With them spamming Gusts and cleaving for half my health it just didn't seem worth it to get up close which I would have to do if I wanted to burn through them having twice as much health.
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>>123942878
>>123942881
>>123942898
Of course... thanks m80s, I should really try and get into it this time, now that I have more free time than before.
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>>123932254
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vTKmVvyNRc
Bokor
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Reminder to report avatarfags, ERPfags, fagposters, and s-s-s-stutterfags
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>>123943146
We don't even have any of those. Worse we have is the kiss krew and they aren't even that bad
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>>123943146
Nah
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/opg8j7pjqp/
r8 me plz
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>>123942903
You're definitely right, but when I see someone make a completely bullshit point and tout it as correct when the math is clearly there to prove them wrong I have to lay it out, consider it a character flaw and having nothing else to do while the server is down.

>>123943065
Alright, I'll definitely have to work on getting more exp/hr there next time.

Curious did you alternate between miniboss room and 'main room' (first one with trees you hit aka 3rd room) or did you stick to one and alternate after awhile?
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>>123943146
Cuteposting is the lifeblood of this general.
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>>123915307
Just yesterday I party with a chronomancer for the level 90 instance boss rush. He used the revive skill on the boss. It worked.
He said that it's not guaranteed, and there's no indicator to show whether the boss has the revive status effect or not.
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>>123943146
Hello Reddit
>>
Servers ded
Make a hilariously awful ability for a later circle of a class

>Chronomancer
>Regression: Continuously drain experience from yourself and party members to heal and restore SP over time
>Attribute: Regression takes 50% from character level and 50% from class level
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>>123915307
back masking apparently crashes the game or something.
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>>123943242
>Rogue C1
>Wugushi C2
I don't understand
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>>123933779
it's fucking good, especially against cloth enemies
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>>123943065
do you regret going thaum
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>>123942868
>INT scales better
The difference between us is that you're spamming iCoins and I'm not dead.

Full CON memer here
Jokes aside, I run dungeon boss rush with some wizards and I can see them dying even on the way to the boss.
And because I'm a pyro, damage output isn't a problem.
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>>123942167
But you can anon, reincarnation is real you just need to kill yourself
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>>123932254
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ferGx_mtHdM
Sapper/Doppel
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>>123942408
You get materials from diev master, they're cheap. I see carve as more of a damage skill, it does alright against plants and leather.
Generally, statues feel great when you are able to just sit in a large room with a bunch of mobs respawning and have someone to swashbuckle them in.
Constantly having -32 sp costs and 20% cooldown reduction is not bad at all.
Even on boss fights statues are kind of hard to place, though, so the large room/swashbuckle scenario is pretty much the only time the class really shines.
In quests/solo, safety->koks->owls clears waves decently, provided that you actually manage to drop koks during safety, which is by no means a given.
I suppose with cleric2 this can get a lot better, but right now I just rely on zaibas (and other people) for damage most of the time.
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>>123943243
>>123943065
>>123942868
Pyro2, Link2 here. I had upwards of 7m xp/h solo pretty much all the time grinding 2nd Demon Prison. What I did was move back and forth from the room with the Firent, the one that needs you to use the crystal things to damage him, and the first big room with loads of trees. I ignored everything but the trees and just burned through pots to keep on going.
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>>123943242
>archer 3
>wugu 2
>only rogue 1

It's real bad.
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best xp i ever had was 6m hour duo with cryo3kino + pyrolinker templeshooter at the trees, there was a random party with our mobs a bit but the leveling was nice
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>>123943348
Well here's hoping that isn't a glitch. Honestly it seems a bit over powered, but with the cooldown it's all the ability has.

>>123943417
Ya, I spoke to one that said every time she uses it her client crashes. I guess no one really knows how it works if that's the case for everyone. I just want to know if you could time your party opening their cubes, then if they get talt you could reset and reroll the drops. Reverse failed upgrades, revive players that died, etc. I'm super pumped for chrono for some reason
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>>123932254
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEJ8lpCQbyw
Highlander
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>>123943471
It'd be good if it was spammable like oblique instead of overheat.
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>>123943146
>see people kissing in public
>get jealous
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Which skills should you focus on first as a Fencer?
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>>123943538
Oh okay, maybe if the patch fixes more than just their mouse thing my next character will be one. I figure Krivis is pretty much required for them, isn't it? I mean with all the statue buffs.
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>>123943564
Perfect. I've learned to always do the opposite of what /vg/ says, I guess I've found my build!
Thanks!
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>>123932254
Sadhu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4oqQnmi8t8
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>>123943783
Never gets old
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>>123932254

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ZHetiuRb0

cryomancer
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Should I even go Alchemist when the game is released? Feels like I won't be making any money since everyone will try to undercut.
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>>123943739
Flanconnade. You will be using that all the time.
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>>123943242
Unless there's some hidden synergy I'm not seeing here that looks pretty lackluster
>>123943780
If that's your plan tho good luck and I hope the point in Rogue works out for you.
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>>123943878
I much prefer any circus music for Cryomancer
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>>123943924
you can at least Awaken your own stuff to save money or just not have to deal with jews
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I just hit 139 before maintenance went up. How long till I reach Rank 6?
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>>123943991
177-178, so pretty much right after you finished grinding Demon Prison.
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>>123943946
Well, obviously I'll be going further into Rogue in retail.
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>>123943991
Maybe a day of demon prison then a few hours questing.
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>>123943924
Make an alchemist alt to fund your shitty class choice. That's my plan, too.
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What's better for a Future-proof™ wizard build;
Wizard C3 Linker C2 Sorc C1 or
Wizard C3 Linker C1 Sorc C2
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>>123932254
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AykOVlEVjJA

Thaumaturge
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>>123943513
I don't go full INT, I have 50 CON and I'm fine.

>>123943540
Thanks, I kind of did similar but when solo I oftentimed just kinda slowed down and only did the main room sometimes.

Probably going to try to make another pyrolinker because I want to test thaum, I'll try to see if I canmatch your numbers then, thanks a bunch.
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>>123943783
is this anime worth watching
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>>123944115
Wiz3 link3
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>>123944041
Then you should have mentioned that, without know that all we're doing is judging it based on whats out now so we'd call it shit m8.
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>>123944040
>>123944074
I'm still five maps away from it though, do I just rush there? And its req level is 151
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>>123943946
I'm no genius, but I think the synergy he's going for there is poisons and vendetta..? Kinda weird but maybe it'd be worth something since the build really lacks any sort of AoE aside from Vendetta and the Wugu c2 stuff
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>>123944106
A lot of people are planning this. I just wonder if it'll be worth the trouble when ultimately multiple people will get there and drive prices into the ground. >>123943983 is legit reasoning, but I could also be using that time to level the character I actually want to play and farm silver there.
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>>123944172
Watch it and form your own opinions.
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Doppelsoeldner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVg7Fn3WtP0
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>>123944115
Wiz1 Pyro3 Linker Sorc
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>>123943924
Alchemist->Archer

Alchemist will still be a good 'fuck you jews' class to overnight make potions.

Can make 2,500 potions in 3~ hours and be safe when you wake up for all day :)

If you set some sort of basic macro can probably make it do something like 2,500 SP 2,500 HP and wake up to money+all your pots ready.

All the while your main is doing whatever you want.
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>>123944271
Fuck off Reddit
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>>123944267
>>123943983
Unless they change how Awakenings work and they let Alchemists set up shops for it you will always lose at the very least 2 if you supply the recipe and materials, most of the time usually 3, potential for having someone else awaken your gear. If you can do it yourself you only lose a single one. Can make a pretty big difference when you want to upgrade your gear.
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>>123944267
We still don't know if Magnum Opus will produce broken stuff that will make alchemists more relevant than they are now. I say it's worth it to have your own potion factory since unlike RO, you don't need to farm the HP/SP materials.
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>>123944214
Not that I've ever used it but isn't Vendetta super bad? some Rogue in thread pls inform.
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>>123944412
was that thing about combining bread with Nutella to make a sandwich a joke?
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Anyone else here loves this boss and watching people that don't know his telegraphs die every 10 seconds to him?

https://u.pomf.io/jdozxg.webm
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anybody got an idea how to reach 200 without getting a like?
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>>123944198
You can go prison at 140-141 and start grinding, just watch out for the harugals since they'll hit you for 1k or so.

If you can't take the heat find a party or grind prison 1F for a bit.
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>>123944474
All those gems, it's like confetti.
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>>123944474
I liked Necroventer back when I didn't care about him spamming his close range AoE
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>>123944474
Oracle has this great buff which shows you the hitboxes of the enemy's attacks, 100% uptime too
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>>123944385
Since you can't trade it to your other character this will only pertain to your own alchemist however.

I will say that awakening my own elder rod let me +10 it very easily still got 2 potential maybe I'll go for +15

The safety net of that alone is great.

Assuming someone gets past the encryption early on purchasing up recipes for good awakens in bulk will be a great way to ensure people come to you for that 1 extra potential at least on weapons.

>>123944412
This is one of the toughest parts, if it's anything at all like the current list I have no faith in it, but I'm hoping dearly that there will be some cool equipment to be made as well as ways to make dilgele/other 'drop only' stuff.

The most frustrating part though is doing it 1 by 1, it seriously needs to let me figure out the recipe then make 100 of them at fucking once like tincturing.
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>>123944431
Cast is pretty long and you have to aim for a mob with low health in the shitpool of effects that is your party members attacks and skills in order to proc it if there aren't any tree root crystals around.
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>>123944356
That's actually a fundamental /a/ mentality. Reddit would give you recommendations and hold your hand through your decisions.

>>123944431
200 Rogue here, Vendetta is bad. Long charge up, long cooldown, and you have to get the killing blow with Vendetta to get the buff, and the buff duration is abysmal.
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>>123944557
Never ever post your character here
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I made a support Druid build

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/a1onuj9ig5/

Tell me you'd invite me into your party senpaitachis.
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>>123943752
I think cleric2 is better for more safety wall and fade, so you can actually cast the statues and not get interrupted by random mob damage.
I only took krivis because I wanted to try zaibas.
Statues only give two buffs (three if you find a way to use ausrine) so daino is probably not required, unless you're rolling with other buffers.
Actually, I'm almost certain statue buffs show up on the lower line and aren't affected by buff limit at all.
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>>123944654
I'm pretty sure they'll make an account wide storage, they just have to. Not having one would be completely ridiculous for this type of game
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>>123943732

True story here:

>Just ran dungeon, chilling at entrance
>cute cryomancer party member sends me a like
>proceeds to come up beside me and gets into the kiss position
>Get really nervous, face heats up, heart starts racing
>"b-b-b-brb gotta repair"
>hop on my mount and trot the fuck out of there at sanic speed (i'm a cataphract)

Such is the life of a kiss virgin...
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>>123944724
Oh really? Well that's perfect. I might just make one then. Thanks anon.
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>>123944125

i hope they do some kind of mr rogers marathon like they did with bob ross.

+696 magic attack
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>>123944724
Statue buffs show on the lower line. Now that you mention it, are there limits to the lower line buffs?
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>>123944704
This, i constantly get likes while i afk wait for attribs near Pyro/Thauma masters.
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>>123944704
Seriously, you guys randomly like people if their names pop up here. It's cute and cool, but sometimes it throws me off.
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>>123944715
idk what you were thinking with that Diev build.

It should be 1/5/5/4.
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>>123944665
>>123944669
Thanks, I remember reading that it was bad but its good to get extra confirmation from people who are actually playing the class.
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>>123944818
>+34
The fuck, how?
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>>123944818
What happens if you fail the next one, does it drop back to +6?
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>>123944474
Fucking beautiful.
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>>123944850
/tosg/ are sweethearts
>The beta won't last long enough to spend christmas with /tosg/
Why korea
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>>123942903
Don't forget "You're hitting sit/stand once every 10~ seconds to get a regen tick, right?". I stopped chugging pots with this one simple trick. Alchemists hate me!
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>>123944669
>Reddit would give you recommendations and hold your hand through your decisions.
that sounds like something a le redditor would say :-)
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>>123944704
this doesn't work at all
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>>123944669
Assuming you could killshot with it every time its off CD wouldn't it only drop off for 10 seconds before you could reapply it if maxed at c2? And can't you release it early with more levels in it?
Instant by Lv7, right? Obviously the instant shot would only be a Lv1 but better than not getting a killshot.

But either way, sounds like that WOULD synergize with poison in a sense. At least while solo.
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>>123944827
Jolly Roger has a bug where it leaves its buff icon even after it's worn off. I've had 10+ icons down there before, so maybe not.
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>>123943530
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Hey depressed anon. Please don't kill yourself after the beta ends, okay? We'll be here waiting for you at the next beta. I know I will at least!
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>>123944958
You'll never know now will you, silly boy~? :^)
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>>123944936
Wow, that's more upsetting than I expected it to be. Maybe in 2019 when the game is released we can all enjoy the inevitable Christmas event together
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>>123944715
>Vakarine instead of Laima
Even when that statue works, it does the same as a warp stone/kaipeda warp scroll.
You don't even get to return to your statue after using it, like you can with the 5k silver warp scrolls.
Would've been great if your party members could just teleport to your statue, though.
That build looks very cute; I totally would.
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>>123944891
It breaks because 0 potential.
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>>123944891
At that potential? It blows the fuck up
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>>123944798

dude you're pretty moe tb.h fa.m
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>>123944981
Yes. And you can make it do absolutely silly damage with maxed attribute and bleed from backstab.
100% from attribute and then 100% from hitting a target with bleed.
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>>123944850
>you guys randomly like people if their names pop up here
Never happened to me.
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>>123944557
Make a male character
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>>123945149
Maybe for Christmas they'll extend it again? Or announce some new classes, or even when the next beta will start. Then we can all pile back here and speculate and bitch about things again.
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>>123942927
But Alchemist is this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULeDlxa3gyc
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>>123945312
I want them to wipe so that we can start fresh with the latest build from Korea. They've made too many fuckups this beta.
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>>123944876

dunno, but this is getting famous. imo some br did this with some kind of cheat.

that reminds me of the old ragnarok "hitbreaker"

>>123944891
0 potential, failure = item break
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>>123945304
confirmed for not working m8
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>>123945395
is it too hard for imc to do that for us
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>>123945304
I did, I even named it xXxNaruto SasukexXx as some anon posted a couple threads back, and spammed huehue when i pass by some one this didn't work
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>>123944715
What in the world is that Diev circle? 0 Laima for a support build? I'd kick you instantly.
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>>123944981
I only played with it at rank 5 and was too busy stabbing things at Rogue c2 to try it with more ranks.

>>123945284
Backstab attribute doesn't apply bleed, and it adds like 8 seconds or something to the cooldown. I'm not really sure what classes have bleeds besides Hoplite with the Pierce attribute.
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>>123945395
Nah I agree. Not much point left in continuing this beta. I really hope we don't have to wait long for the next one though, I'm having a lot of fun. I want to see what's in store for the game.
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>>123944780
I hope they have some kind of lodge barrack. An extra page of storage would be great too
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>>123944715
Some how you people come up with the worst builds.
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>>123945568
Highlander's Cross Cut is an almost guaranteed bleed at max level, except on enemies that resist it.

Different mobs resist bleed differently. Trees for example rarely bleed if at all.
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>>123945284
Since when does backstab apply bleed? When I was thinking of trying out a Rogue I was fuming that they didn't have a way to apply bleed in the class itself for synergy with massive bleeding.
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>>123945635
if nobody actually took some weird ass builds we wouldn't actually know that most skills don't work with catapracht
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>>123944818
Can somebody please work out the chance % of managing to +34 this 10 durability item?
Here are the numbers:
+1 100% 33,270
+2 100% 55,451
+3 100% 110,902
+4 100% 166,353
+5 100% 221,805
+6 88% 277,256
+7 78% 332,707
+8 68% 388,158
+9 59% 443,610
+10 51% 499,061
+11 51% 554,512
+12 51% 609,963
+13 51% 665,415
+14 51% 720,866
+15 51% 776,317
and 51% for the remaining 18 upgrades
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>>123944780
A treasure box in the lodge in where you characters can put items for everybody to share. Limited to 20 items, but expandable if you buy the mega treasure box for a low price of 19.99 dollars a month
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>>123945698
Backstab has an attribute that makes it apply Massive Bleeding. It's a special bleed.
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reminder that you all for the meme
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>>123945734
It's literally just 0.88 x 0.78 x 0.68 etc
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>>123945734
law of large numbers, so 50%
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>>123945780
It only applies Massive Bleeding if the target is already bleeding.
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>>123945749
Twenty spaces is plenty if just used for item transfer. Not too bad an idea.
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>>123945270

Yes I agree, I'm pretty cute if I do say so myself, probably the cutest cataphract on the server. But every time I have a chance to share a kiss with a cutie my autism and anxiety gets in the way and my mount moves on it own and usain bolts the fuck out of there

Just like real life
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>>123945827
I'm having fun. All that matters
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>>123945827
But I'm having fun
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>>123945780
It only does massive bleeding if the target is already bleeding normally.

lrn2reading comprehension.
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>>123944861
>>123945513
>>123945238
Oops guess I clicked it 1 too many times on the Laima skill. Don't beat me up.

>>123945635
What's an awesome support build I could learn from?
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>>123945827
>not a cute anime girl
This comic is outdated.
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>>123945848
It doesn't apply well over a mere 34 samples.
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>>123946004
yeah but there should be occasional spikes so you'll eventually get it
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How many of each type of card should I have saved up to end my dicking?
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>>123945840
You need to account for durability, so this is incorrect
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>>123945972
Remember that this is all based on just the classes we have now, but you generally want to go semi-support rather than full support. That way you're dealing damage and buffing everyone. Keep in mind with that build you're going to have a lot of dead space where you can just auto attack or stand around. Pure support is fine, but it has disadvantages. Also, you're going to be going through living hell leveling that build. It's going to be nigh impossible.

If you want a more pure support build you could go wizard -> cryo -> linker -> thaum -> chrono -> chrono. Cryo is basically mixed support/damage because of the freezes. You'll have a lot better time leveling that.
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>>123946137
All of the level sevens and eights by the time you hit 165
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>>123946137
You'll use all your level 7 cards (140+) and most of your level 8 cards up to that point if you pop them at 166-167
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>>123946137
there's 149 level 7 cards, you should save all of those. Then you'll need around 80 level 8 cards depending on how much questing you care about doing. That'll be enough to get you out of dicking territory at 165
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>>123946137
All of it
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>2015
>not playing the best Archer

So, tell me, toasters, why don't you still not Quarrel?
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>>123945671
Bleed doesn't work on plants
sometimes the bleed icon show up for 1s and get resisted, just like when crosscut on earth archon
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>>123946385
>>123946418
Not that anon, but if I have every 7 and more than 80 8s I can use some 8s to speed up grinding? Please say yes
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>>123946418
What are yougonna exacly hit with these cards, rank6?
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>>123940884

Fuck off, Chad Thunderevelator.

This pic legitimately makes me angry and jealous
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>>123946501
I don't like picking stones, and I don't like them filling my inventory

but I'll be QS on obt anyways
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>>123946232
Why would you tell them to go chrono when the class is even more bugged then diev is right now? might as well go thaum 3 for massive buff damage or linker 3 for memeline.
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I reached level 172 grinding demon prison before maint. I have 200 level 6 cards and I haven't done the quests with 7 or 8. How many hours do I have left before level 200?
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>>123946729
Autism
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>>123946513
I think most people level to 165 to be safe but I think you could honestly leave it earlier, like 160-162 if you just keep on questing (pop cards to get to 173-174 to do those quests etc). The thing is that you grind at Demon Prison because there's a dead zone for quests if you don't. I had like 60 level 8 cards leftover that I didn't pop and I'm 195 right now, just waiting for maintenance to be over.
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>>123946729
You fucking serious

You're already lv 200, do the quests.
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>>123946701
With the build he showed us I assumed he hasn't played the game, meaning he isn't in the beta. Chrono either won't be this glitched, or won't be in the game when he does play it. Thaum 2 or 3 would also be a really good choice though. I mostly said Chrono because alchemist isn't a support class, at least not in combat. I always ignore the fact that you don't need to pick the shiny new class/circles.
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>>123946729
>I have 200 level 6 cards
Why the fuck haven't you used them?
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>>123946572
But Quarrel Shooter is the Best Shooter!
>>
he following has been changed/fixed :

Fixed the problem of the debuff effect from the skill “Skull Swing: No Jump” persisting well after its supposed duration.
Fixed the problem of the faces of Fedimian market NPCs not being printed properly.
Fixed the problem of level-restricted quest’s texts printed in Korean.
Fixed the problem of not being able to activate Dievdirbys’ Vakarine skills when in a mouse mode.
Fixed typos
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>>123946807
Well what levels exactly have the dead zone? Shit if demon prison is just to speed things up then fuck that, I'd rather just quest and have fun. I thought you literally had to because of some limitations in the beta. Like the way it was described I thought it was literally the only content that could give you experience at a certain point.
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>>123946729
>I have 200 level 6 cards and I haven't done the quests with 7 or 8

We told him to grind demon prison for a whole week... and he did it the absolute madman
hahahahaha
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>>123946232
>going through living hell leveling that build
>priest
>blessing, sacrament, arde, cafrisun, heals
Leveling seemingly non-viable builds is actually fairly easy now thanks to the on-hit bullshit.
At level 75 you're one/two-shotting every monster with basic attacks. It does fall off later on, but not slow enough to throw you into despair.
Besides, parties with random people are a thing.
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>>123946868
Not him, but no need to used cards if you made a character since the x2 boost. Just quest and kills things on the way, do the dungeons and you'll be sitting on cards
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>>123946810
Yeh but how many hours will that take man?

>>123946868
Just kind of forgot about them when I reached demon prison to be honest.

>>123946998
Eh, it only took 2 days.
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>>123946729
Doing all the quests and using all the cards will net you level 200 easily.
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>>123946954
Did they fix channeling skills being interrupted?
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>>123946968
The deadzones are everything after demon prison.
You can literally run for minutes straight and not find a single mob for those maps.
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>>123946968
The dead zone is basically if you avoid Demon Prison "grinding" all together and just quest and card, you end up at around level 170(?) flat with nothing else you can do, no dungeon, no quests, and severely reduced EXP for Demon Prison if you decide to go back.

So you do Demon Prison early to get the needed EXP, it's just people push it to the limit.
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>>123947034
You can probably roll through all the quests in like 2-3 hours.
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GAMES ONLINE LOG IN NOW
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>>123929637
I told you, Sorcerer is a meh/lackluster class, you only play it for the Templeshooter's damage.
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>>123946854
Right that makes more sense then.

I'd disagree on not considering alch for a support though since bitches will love you for the potions and awakenings and I'd argue that supplying pots is very much affecting combat.
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>>123947228
But the servers aren't pinging back. How is it online
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>>123947228
why would you do that
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>grinding in meme prison to 165
Why the fuck would you do this? You can get rank 6 at level 162
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>>123944352
Except potion making is an active skill, not a passive, and if you disconnect/channel crashes/game hangs, you lose all your progress on your thousands of potions.
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>>123947238
I don't completely dislike Sorcerer. I like being able to position my TS somewhere and have him clear out that big area for me while I piddle away at other groups with my little ice pikes. The decision was entirely based on the fact that I was doing such little damage with my build at that point. I'm thinking of going elementalist into chrono in the next beta, depending on what new classes there are.
I wish wizards had another choice for a damage class along the way. Not a big fan of elementalist thematically and I really like thaum.
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>>123947238
It would be interesting if they actually implemented a templeshooter nerf this patch. Honestly though, I don't feel like they should nerf templeshooter, I feel like they should buff the other summons.
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How difficult would it be to reach level 15 at rank 6?
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>>123947297
It's a crafting class though, really. I mean I get what you're saying but there's a big difference between buffs/debuffs/control and making sure people have good gear/potions prior to the run. I might say Squire is a mix though, in fairness.
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>>123947238
Sorceres is basically only TS, but even with that Sorc>Necro.
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>>123947450
>You can get rank 6 at level 162
How
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Are necormancers fun? I'm already a sorc, but am considering going necro. Would that be a bad decision?
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>>123947618
Nah, TS is stupid overpowered. Don't nerf it into the ground, and don't change what's special about it, but reducing its damage per shot by like 20-30% would be good. Buffing other summons would be nice too. I'd say to around the level that chapp one is at, the grim reaper, maybe a tiny bit stronger.
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There's more than two hours left. What have you been doing /tosg/
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>>123947621
I'd like to know too. Level 200 is easy shit but class level has only become more of a shitter ever rank.
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>>123947741
watching supergirl
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>>123947741
Listening to this new Intervals album.
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>>123947741
boosting my coc barracks and watching streams

with some snacks

tfw it's 3am
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>>123947741
I took a bath
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>>123947734
Well it was more I feel like if summons did around 2k a hit each, they'd feel more justified, since for now they're doing ~1500-1600 on normals while temple is doing that x2. If they got buffed to 2k, and temple got nerfed to 2x1k, I'd accept that.
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>>123947741
I watched the first half of the first episode but had to interrupt it. With that tiny bit I want to say the manga is better but I know that would be unfair. How was the Sea King arc? Was it as fucking outstanding as it was in the manga?

I've been sitting in /tosg/ talking about video games. Also I made terrible rice.
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>>123947741
just started fallout 4 and im getting stuck at terminals what the fuck
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>>123946385
>>123946418
>>123946343
So I saved 145 level 6s for nothing
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>>123947464
I thought you can craft while logged off?
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>>123947859
The trick is the amount of water.
You need different amounts for different kinds of rice.
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>>123947859
>Also I made terrible rice.
How could you you fuck up rice its just water and rice grains in a pot
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>>123947956
you don't save level 6 cards anymore, especially not after the 2x EXP boost.
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>>123947956
You'll still get class levels. You're only class 9 when you hit 200.
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So does anyone have the specific number of level 7 and level 8 cards in the game and how many are available at about level 170?
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>>123945985
fuck off
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>>123947845
Even if he only did 1k per arrow TS would still be significantly stronger than the other cards because of his absolutely ridiculous S Skill. There's nothing that comes even close.
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>>123947845
That's fair. I think the best way to make Sorc more interesting is to let summons receive buffs. I know it would be an enormous buff to the class but numbers could be tweaked to compensate. A more resource heavy change would be to give summons abilities they use when they aren't in ride mode, so even if one doesn't have as good DPS it could still be someone's favorite. Like putting a shield/heal on its master, or casting its own buff on the party.

>>123947992
Nah that wasn't the problem, I'm super good at the rice part. There was a sale on tofu so I figured I'd get some, but its been forever since I cooked tofu so I tossed it into the frying pan with the rice rather than before, and I got the wrong kind. It was just awful.
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>>123947859
Was pretty good. Solid 8/10 minimum
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>>123947859
I've yet to watch it but the anime has been underwhelming aside from a few moments

>>123947956
You can get off prison earlier, try using math or that excel sheet people have been passing around
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>>123947956
he fell for the save your cards meme
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>>123947956
Level 6 are still worth decent class EXP bro.
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Anyone here level 15 rank 6?
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>>123947732
Necros are fun at first but their damage is shit.
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>>123947741
probably going to read some of my manga backlogs.

>>123947956
get on my level
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>>123948351
>grinding to level 260 without quests

Nah
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What's your plan?

http://strawpoll.me/6148609
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>>123948415
Why are you locking all your stuff, from armor to recipes?
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>mfw hibike shitposter makes me hard as fuck everytime
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>>123948475
>no happy merchant's guild option

Guess ill go with /tosg/
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>>123948475
The /tosg/ guild could be really good, but like all /vg/ guilds everyone will hate it endlessly in the thread. Don't believe their lies.
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>>123948485
What does locking even do?
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>>123948415
I'm sitting on these, I just use them to get within five levels on the quest map
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>>123948574
the problem would be all the ERPers who join the guild
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>>123948496
That guy made me curious and watch the anime but it turned out to be /u/ shit so I dropped it.
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>>123948485
those are some higher value ones
don't want to vendor them by mistake
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A daily reminder to pull your partner in with your hands when kissing if he is just sticking his lips out being shy. Also http://tosken.48s.jp/itemsearch_e/ is superior to tosbase except for maps and quests.
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>>123948621
Let them be. Their sweaty faps are not your concern. Revel in their autism and enjoy it, anon. It's what /vg/ was made for.
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>>123947732
Necro is good. You get your Shoggoth that's slightly weaker than your boss summons from Sorc but doesn't drain any SP, 5 skeleton familiars that auto for about 1k each every second or so, and Flesh Hoop which is corpse parts that are circling around you for 15s and hit everything coming close to you for about 1k a tick. You also get Flesh Cannon which can completely destroy bosses if you stack those meme items with elemental attack on them, that kinda goes against stacking int to make your summons stronger though so it's a bit of a trade off. A lot of Necro abilities also give Decay to enemies, which lowers their max HP over time and makes it significantly easier to overkill.

Overall it synergizes incredibly well with Sorc. It's just more damage all around.
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>>123948485
I carry two sets of armor and I accidentally sold some parts this one time. Also locking recipes I will get to craft

>>123948632
>hibike
>/u/
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>>123948574
>/rog/
>2 /vg/ guilds in cookieRO
>endless hating from both sides in the threads
>everyone is chill and helping each other out in game
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>>123941141
>has been confirmed that IMC is going to nerf Templeshooter
link please, I really need to start thinking what should I do when ts gets nerfed
I mean, high circles wizards really suffer
-sorc is shit
-necro is shit
-chrono is support (and shit)
-alch is jew class

also

>necro as dps
wew
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>>123948772
>>123948772
new bugs
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>>123948698
There are a lot of reasons you're wrong but I can't be bothered posting
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>>123948154
Wasn't so much I was saving them it was more that I never needed to use them.

>>123948150
At this point it seems they'll get me just under four levels, just over two if I use them at the end of prison. Not sure if that really amounts to much either way.

>>123948415
Seems I missed a lot of quests. I know I used like maybe 20 to keep my levels within range but no where near that many.
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>>123948351
One of my friends is 13level.
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>>123948808
k
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>>123948574
kek, no, every same fucking thing happens when vg makes a guild. keep them close, but never join them.
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>>123948717
Outright confessions of love between girls is /u/shit anon.
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>>123948475
>no friends guild /elitists option
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>>123948589
how do you sue that table i dont know excel
or did you just enter all that maually
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>>123943513
Wrong way of thinking.

You are not supposed to be a mass of health that sometimes has half damage, you're supposed to be a fucking galaxy destroyer glass cannon that sometimes has to give up half damage for more life.
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>>123944474
oh...can you jump over his stone throw or something? Looks like you were right next to the hitbox.
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