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>News
- Cloud Strife from Final Fantasy VII is set to arrive as a downloadable fighter.
- A special broadcast for Super Smash Bros. will air some time in December.
- PM 3.6 now available for download: projectmgame.com/en/download

>Resources and Guides
http://pastebin.com/TD8zsDJ1

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>>123819520
IN 10 FUCKING POSTS
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First for Pac-Man
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>tfw you can never perform well under pressure or when others depend on you
h e l p
e
l
p
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First for falkore getting salty again
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>>123819812
STOP POSTING IT EARLY
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>>123819749
>>>/adv/
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>>123819746
https://twitter.com/HouseOf3000/status/671128236793925632
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Still lookin for 1v1. ID:Holford92
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How much money in total has Smash 4 put you back (we'll pretend you DIDN'T buy a whole console/handheld just for the game).
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>>123819926
Pac-Man.
So technical. Love it.
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Palutena is beautiful.
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>>123819979
>Game costs $60
>Bought it for $60

Verdict: $60.
Next question.
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>>123819979
Bought both games, all stages, all characters, two Miis and a Mayflash. And even though I wound up playing Super Mario 3D World more than Smash 4, I DID buy the console solely for Smash originally.
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>>123820189
How much more are you willing to pay for DLC?
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>>123820189
No DLC?
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>>123819979
>Bought 3DS Version on release $50
>Bought wii u on black friday a year ago came with windwaker and smash4 for $300
>fucked up NNID so bought mewtwo $3?
>bought the pack that comes with ryu, faggot crybaber from mother 3 whats his name, and royboy $9
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>>123819942
I can go for a few. NNID is Koopa1989.
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>>123820285
>>123820317
I don't care for the DLC characters
Extra maps aren't very big to me either, I just usually play FD/Omega anyways.
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>>123820306
>having shit tastes
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>villager dittos
>can cut down my tree
>can water my saplings
This can't be a 5-5 match up
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Talk me out of buying this
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>>123820151
Best.
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>>123820456
best girl when
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>>123820559
It's your donut money, use it on whatever you want.
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>>123820480
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>>123820340
>faggot crybaber from mother 3 whats his name

Lucas.
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>>123820559
Looks great imo.

How much? Doesn't matter, totally worth it.
Is there a Link/Zelda version?
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>>123820446
>I just usually play FD/Omega anyways.
oh. you're one of THOSE people
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>>123820340
>Lucas
>crybaby
I don't get this meme
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>>123820559
>You'll never get laid again
>Your SO will dump you
Pick one.
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>>123820559
It's $450 for something that's just gonna collect dust on a shelf
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>>123820658
What's wrong with that?
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Where is the Lucina cuteposter, I miss him.
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>>123820625
>water bucket can gimp my up b
>3 turnips is more than my 2
>2 is more than my 1
>3 fresh turnips beat my stale turnips
Truly the most unfair ditto. GGs Kokonoe was fun
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>>123820658
I'm just trying to get better mang
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>>123820921


GGs, I hope that was as stupid as funny for you as it was for me. I play this game for dumb shit like that
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>>123820559
You're a poor as shit donut man who can't afford it.
Money match some of the rich kids at a local so you can buy it.
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>>123820943
You're not gonna get better only playing on flat stages.
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>>123820853
No idea, but since you saved my edited picture take this one until he shows up.
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>>123821045
What other tournament stages do you suggest?
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>>123820721
He probably isn't getting laid right now anyways
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>>123821009
I think picking the most smug villager had something to do with it. Nothing beats Lucario dittos though
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>>123821217
Battlefield
Lylat
Dreamland
Smashville
Town and City
Duck Hunt
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>>123821312
What's smug about blue-and-yellow? Wouldn't the male and female villagers with lowered eyelids be the smug ones?
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>>123821343
Don't forget Omega Guar Plains
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>>123821217
>battlefield
>town & city
>lylat
>delfino
>smashville
Wuhu and Tinywings
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>>123821343
Guess I'll add them into the mix.
I personally hate Duck Hunt though.
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>>123821131
Best ship.
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>>123821514
>Pilot wings
>Delfino
NO
FUCK OFF
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>>123821404
Sleep tight villagers are the cutest ones.
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>>123821217
Battlefield, Smashville, T&C, Dreamland and FD are standard tournament stages. Duck Hunt and Lylat are at most tournaments. Sometimes a tournament will have Castle Seige and Delfino.
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>>123819406
>she farted
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>>123821642
Are those even legit tournament stages? I thought dynamic stages that kept changing were never allowed in actual competitive play.
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>>123820793

True. I could maybe just buy the smaller one.
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>>123821716
>boatshit
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>>123820853
I think he was here last night.
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>>123821776
Delfino and Castle Siege are allowed in some places. IMO Castle Siege should never be allowed, and Wuhu and Pilotwings should be allowed.
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>>123821716
Not even best battleship, fuck outta here.

>>123821829
>2hushit
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>>123820658

i've always hated fanart that tries to make ness look "badass". he isn't. he's a pudgy little american kid.
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>>123822016
how is that badass in any way
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>>123821945
I've always enjoyed playing pilot wings but I imagine a lot of people would be against it in competitive play.
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>>123821829
They were talking about ships and they are only good for masturbating, at least 2hu has gameplay and music
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>>123821546
I also really hate Duck Hunt even though it's a really good counterpick for my character
Fuck that camera

>>123821776
They're legal if they're not shit
For a long time Delfino was legal but most people are of the consensus now that the shit parts outweigh the non shit parts
PS1 is legal in melee despite having a shit transformation or two because 90% of the time the stage is good.
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Anyone wanna play?
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>>123821850
He was.

Maybe if we post more Lucina, he'll come back.
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>>123821945
>Pilotwings
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>>123822058
>cap turned sideways
>half-cocked angst expression
>nose bandage
>posing
>wrapped bat

it's almost as bad as garbage like this
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>>123822114
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>>123821945
>Stallingwings over Castle Siege for any reason
nah man
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3ds anyone?
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Does anyone have the New 3DS XL with the "c-stick?" Is it any good? Wondering if investing in one to upgrade from my ancient original small 3DS is worth it.
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>>123822352
>any map that extends the floor all the way to blast zone
nah man
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>>123822352
>wanting backthrow siege onver any stage
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>>123822323
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>>123822529
C U T E !
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>>123822415
In around 10 minutes Jacob if you're around. It's the Koopa anon.

>>123822439
I don't find much use for it. Its more of a gimick than anything. Compared to the GC controller c-stick, it's not very useful.
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>>123822415
I hate you go away
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>>123822439
it's useful for monster hunter, feels kinda shitty for smash. improved loading times in games and menus and stuff is nice though
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>>123822439
I have one
I didn't find the option to set the c-stick to tilts though
And I only use it for tilts on Wii U
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>>123822482
>>123822497
>1/3rd of the stage
>Vs 1/2 of Pilot wings allowing you stall indefinitely, and the other 1/2 heavily encouraging it
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>>123822728

no you go away

>>123822686

okie dokie pokie
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Thanks for the buttkick Pher. DK vs Bowser is GOAT matchup. Too bad my DK is shit Also that last hit, dayum.
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>>123822929
>losing to pher
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>>123822929
Nice edited picture
Did you steal it in mexico
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>>123822686
It kinda looks like the mouse nipple thing on old IBM laptops or something and it looks like it's in a janky spot.

>>123822805
Well the bigger screen would probably be the reason I get it then because this tiny 3DS is ass.

>>123822859
>WhatsThePoint.jpg
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>>123819942
Ggs Holford. Thanks for the set. Cheers, you got a good set of characters there, who was your main?

>>123822916
On my way.
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>>123821716
>>123821962
Best ships in my opinion
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>>123823023
Is it really stealing if its from Mexico? I liberated it from its shitty 3rd world country.
>>123822997
I make people feel good about themselves when I lose to them.
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>>123823176
DELETE THIS
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>>123822916
Room up Jacob.
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>>123823051
Fox with Link as my secondary, usually against heavies.
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>>123823176
>I liberated it from its shitty 3rd world country.

Touché
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>>123819406
Why'd you make it early again
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>>123823365
Ah right, fair enough.
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>>123823421
Wasn't really early tho
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>>123823269
Panchito pls.
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Anybody want to play?
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>>123823543
It was though.
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Why haven't you anons married Lucina yet?!
Oh yeah that's right. She's mine!>>123820853
>>123822114
>>123822323
>>123822529
>>123823140
Y'all have some great taste I'm sorry I'm not the hero you wish and dream for..
I can only wish and dream as much as the next guy to have Lucina in my arms.
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>>123823615
Calm down.
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>>123823546
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>>123823628
>having a smash waifu
>having a non blonde waifu

lol
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>>123823628
Your waifu a shit. She ain't got no tits.
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>>123823660
I'm just saying it was.
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>>123819406
>- A special broadcast for Super Smash Bros. will air some time in December.

So more DLC is going to be announced, correct?
/ssbg/ predictions for possible DLC?
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>>123823757
Old thread was about to die anyway.

Calm down.
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>>123823779
K. Rool, Wolf or Snake, or maybe even all 3 but I doubt it.
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>>123823779
Goku and Ridley
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>>123823717
>having a blond slut for a waifu
At least it'll be easier to tell it's not your kid senpai
>>123823779
inkling
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>>123823915
>all 3
Muh dick.
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Reminder to ignore and report shitposts!
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>side b instead of down b

EVERYTIME
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>>123824036
This bans the falkore
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>>123823964
my waifu isn't a slut
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>>123823779
Chris Redfield or Jill Valentine.
RE was actually on Nintendo systems.
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>>123824036
thanks esam
>>123824270
>more capcom characters before we get konami's attention
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>play smash bros 4
>grabbed
>thrown
>kicked into the air repeatedly
>lose
>everytime
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>>123824509
Anyone looking for 1v1?
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>>123824509
have you tried avoiding being grabbed?
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>>123824270
>not Wesker
He'd be way more fun than either of those two or Leon
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>>123823779
Spongebob + Bikini Bottom stage bundle
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>>123824835
True. Wesker would probably offer some interesting gameplay.
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Let's go back in time /ssbg/
How far have we come?
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>>123824964
>Bowser S+
>S+ at all
this was a meme list day 1
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>>123823750
>needing useless sacks of fat
>not licking your waifus speed bump chest to hear her cry how sensitive she is there
Anon its like you've never tried a more smaller titty girl before.
>>123823717
Why would I want a blonde bimbo anon.
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reminder to report shitposts
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>>123825062
fite my day 1 bowser cuh. that shit was fire
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>>123823750
Samus doesn't wrap, huge difference.
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>>123824653
Have you tried shut up
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>>123824964
>Palutena
>A+
If only.. If only.
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>>123824964
>Samus has always been lowest tier
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>>123825167
no
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>>123824964
Started from the bottom now we're here
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>>123825223
s-sorry
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Anybody want to 1v1?
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>>123825448
Launch Ike was actually worse than Zelda.
Keep in mind Zeldas been nerfed from launch.
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>>123825309
I had such hopes when Sakurai said the devs thought she was really strong. I mean I didn't expect them to be RIGHT, I'm not that stupid, but I thought it could have been a ticket to mid-tier at least.
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>>123821776
No, after DL64 got released everyone has been on that FD/BF/SV/T&C/Lylat/DH/DL64 stagelist. No stupid moving/transforming/wall/hazard jank from Delfino/Siege/Halberd
Pilotwings and Wuhu were cut really early on in Smash 4's lifespan though which is great though
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>>123825448
praise sakurai
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>>123825621
>inb4 she was actually top tier
>they nerfed her because of this before the game came out
>had to rush it out so they didn't even test it
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>literally do worse with ness

god i hate you so much pher

j/k ggs bb, was fun. thanks for indulging me
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>>123824964
>diddy
>C
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>>123825749
the MU is 80-20 senpai
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>>123825621
I'd like to think my Samus is fairly good regardless of tiers, but there's only so far one can get with one of the worst characters in a game.
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>>123825621
>Yfw she had a functioning jab and kill throws pre launch
>Taken away because she was the best
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>>123825702
I bet she was not even a tier above where she is currently in that un-nerfed form, they know absolutely nothing about how their game is played.
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>>123825831
"good" is relative anon.
She could have combos and be able to kill at 60 which wouldn't matter if every other character could kill at 0 or something even more stupid.
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>>123824964
Funny how most of that C tier has skipped up to around A.
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>>123825826

it's probably 55-45/60-40, but ness is so much better than charizard I HAVE NO EXCUSE FOR THIS SHIT
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>>123825874
>dev grabbed a screw attack item while playing samus
>stood next to a cluster of three other players
>jump>double jump>up b'd
>THISU FIGHTER IS STRONGU!
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>>123826028
That's exactly what I'm saying. You can only get so far with a character who is objectively worse than the others.
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>>123826216
>>123825749

okay, i feel better now

next really is last for me tho
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>>123826216
Goddamn that was nuts! I shouldn't have used fire breath ;_;
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>browsing /v/
>in the mood to get angry, so I go into an sjw thread
>find that picture of Alice's conversation that is posted here once in a while
At least keep your shitposting contained on the related /vg/ threads you niggers.

I almost confuse the thread with /ssbg/ while ctrl tabbing
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>>123826586
>>123826569

ggs my man, thanks for sticking through as i try desperately not to get 2stocked with jabdragon
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Dubs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7CewcWnKs8
Samus is fun but suffering
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>>123826686
no
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>>123826879

I'll join.
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>>123826837
Ggs Jacob. Nice to fight both your Jab Dragon and Ness, been a while. Thanks for the set. Fair dues surviving Giga Bowser but I had no choice to transform after I saw you going for it! I swore I turned items off though, that was my bad.

The flame wars were real!
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>>123826879
Over exaggerated video
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>>123826879
I'll join
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>>123827042

yeah, i was glad i could kind of hold on for awhile as charizard, but i struggle to not become horrendously predictable, so i can't keep my defense up.

and i still can't beat your bowser at all without just spamming up b and hoping i can juggle you for 2 solid minutes. any advice? with either character
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>>123824964
>Sheik and ZSS 1 and 2 since Day 1.
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>>123827120
Obviously it's staged but those things happen in real play.
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>>123827204
They sure do.
>>123827148
>>123827032
1 more for dubs
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>>123827374
I would love nothing more than dubs, but
>tfw company over
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>>123827120
yeah, the video's always bothered me too because some of those "problems" are stupid.
>why can't I hit someone with a missile at point blank range
When are you every going to want to hit someone with a missile at point blank range?
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>>123827175
Sure. I actually think Charizard vs Bowser MU is surprisingly 50-50 depending. Both have tools which out prioritize the others, for example Zard's jab beats mine, as does your fire, but my tilts beat yours as do my defense.

Quite frankly I thought you did well with him, the only point I can think of is landing the kill shot. Flare Blitz is your friend. It's essentially an all in one option but I think an excellent mix up at kill % would be to get me airborne and try to catch my landing with a Flare Blitz to kill me.

Even if you think this may be too risky, at even modest % at say 30-50% it can make for an excellent tool to condition me into an overtly defensive move, giving you free reign in the neutral.

Besides that, it just comes down to who whiffs and punishes the other first.

As for Ness, yeah the juggles were crazy! I found the n-air far too late till towards the end but that is fundamentally what you must do: Keep me in the air. Even if I somehow adapt to the PK thunder, you should try to cover my landings with n-air, f-air or even baiting out an air dodge into your b-air.

At the end, it comes down to two things for Ness: Can he get me into the air and juggle me OR can he catch me in a PK fire chain?

I think spaced n-airs and f-airs however would make my life very difficult. The only openings I have are to grab you, but short hop spacing would make that nearly impossible, forcing me to consider far more slower and potentially dangerous options, also keeping a lot of breathing space for you as either f-air locks me into an air chain or b-air can potentially kill me.

Hope this helps.
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>>123825749
Don't feel Jacob, Ness vs Bowser is 70-30 in Bowser's favor.
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>>123827463
It's all good, anon. Another time.
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>>123827619
*80-20
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>>123827613

that was very informative, especially since i'm still really green with zard. some of those games were remarkably close, or at least much closer than i expected, considering i still struggle greatly to space with zard. and for some reason flare blitz still terrifies me, so sometimes i catch myself just not using it AT ALL except when i accidentally side b instead of down b and am sent hurdling off the stage

thanks for the advice bb, means a lot

>>123827826

*99-1
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Did the Lucina cuteposter leave? ;n;
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>>123827374
you guys full?
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>>123827180
As it should be.
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>>123828159
Hitlist anon got him.
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>>123828215
Do not provoke voreposting
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>>123828316
Sluts. Why couldn't cute girls like Lucina and Zelda be high tier?
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I would FUCK Sheik. Male or female desu
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>>123828215
Totally not
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>>123828316
>jtails tried to ruin it by bringing about diddy
>zero joined him and it was decided that diddy would be the best
>zero goes to japan and convenes with sakurai
>diddy gets killed and zero goes to sheik
>comes back and nairo overtakes dabuz in tristate to put the real top tiers back
all is right in the cosmos
>>123828518
that is zelda
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1V1 anyone?
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games anyone?
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>>123828518
They're all top tier in cute.
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>>123828518
Zelda is cute!
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>>123828638
It's not beautiful Smash 4 Zelda.
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>>123828738
>super smash BROS
>all these girls
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Are there any players who consistantly pull off 1-frame techniques in Melee or 4?
4 especially since Smash 4 players are always tooting their horns about muh frame perfect needle fidgeting muh 1frame perfect pivoting muh 1 frame pikachu upb cancel etc
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>>123828724
Im hosting
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>in team FF
>go Little Mac
>win first round 7-1
>two players switch to Mac next round
>mfw play 30 minutes straight with three Little Macs

Too much fun! Not so fun 75m and Orbital Gate Offense ;_;
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Hosting dubs in a sec, feel free to join
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>>123829267
I'd join if I knew which version of the game/what your FC is.

>>123828968
I can, but it's not very useful to be honest.
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>>123829464
You can what?
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>>123829464
Both systems, but currently hosting WiiU. Feel free to add my 3ds code for future dubs.
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>>123828968
>pikachu up b cancel is frame tight
>needle fidget is 1 frame
>perfect pivot is 1 frame
Ignoring how wrong those statements are, of course. I've utilized those three techniques, I've pulled off shield drop cancels which actually is a one frame input but I'm not consistent enough with it to start applying it a bunch in matches. And melee has a bunch of frame tight techniques that people do all the time. Invincible ledge dashes, spacie shortens, etc.

Personally the problem I see with difficult techniques in smash 4 is that people just pretend they don't exist because they're kinda difficult. Japanese don't do this but there are still people that say perfect pivots and such are useless because they find them too hard. Techniques like shield drops or ledge dashes in melee have been known for the longest time but only in the past few years have they become practically a requirement for competitive play.

1 frame links with no buffer are found in traditional fighting games. Or speedrunners. Or whatever other thing where people strive for optimization, and the first thing people do is practice and get consistent. Sm4sh players could learn from that.
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>>123829739
ledgedashes arent 1-frame tight
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>>123829556
Perfect pivot, wavedashing, etc.

>>123829663
I'll go ahead and do that, then.
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>>123829154
>somewhere, in the depths of nintendo wifi, pher is busy ruining a 12 year old's night in For Fun, as little mac

this always brings a smile to my face
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Join or get keked, Beezy
One for dubs.
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>>123829875
Frame tight != one frame.
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>>123829875
No, I never said they were. But an invincible ledge dash is frame tight and the more precise the input it, the better.
>>123829920
>wavedashing is not that useful
what
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>>123829920
>PP and WD arent that useful
>PP and WD are 1-frame techniques
sasuga 3DSfag
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>>123829932
That's not my intention anon!
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>>123830020
It's nice if you're playing against someone who doesn't use wavedashing, but I prefer other methods.
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Punching Lucina in the back of the head! Killing Lucina!
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So realistically, what do we think Simon Belmont's chances are? He's my most wanted character, and his moves would work well for a Smash moveset, but he wasn't a meme character for the ballot like shovel knight so he got no attention.

What do you think, guys? Will we ever get to Smash on the bridge/stairs leading up to Dracula's throne room with the moon looming large in the background and vampire killer blaring?
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>>123829739
But even speedrunners have trouble with 1 frame techniques, I know DKC speedrunners rarely get PBs because theres a 1-frame technique in a few levels called jumprolling that saves a bit of time
And then theres other factors like n64 games all being poorly optimized pieces of shit so 1 frame in Diddy Kong racing would be like 10 in any other game because it runs at like 15 fps most of the time
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>>123830368
don't bully!!
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>>123830437

i think castlevania has a genuine shot at getting a rep. or rather i should say, castlevania WOULD have a genuine shot, if konami cared at all about video games anymore

i 100% legitimately hope their corporate office burns to the ground, and they're forced into bankruptcy
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>>123830574
I'd want Soma over a Belmont anyway.
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>>123830502
Frankly, she kind of deserves it.
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>>123830227
What the fuck are you talking about
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>>123830227
Do you play Super Smash Bros Melee for the Nintendo Gamecube?
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>>123830853
ye.
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>>123830853
I do from time to time
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>>123830450
The ones striving to be the best always practice their one frame techniques. speedrunners streaming their run will be absolutely sure to mention that what they just did was a 1-2 frame input Having trouble with something is always alleviated by practicing it. You don't have to be 100% perfect to be able to consistently utilize it. Hell, Mang0 and Westballz waveland so many times in a match, I don't fault them for missing one or two.
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anyone want to play melee/pm
east coast
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>>123831284
host
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>when the team stacked
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>>123831284
>east coast
Who is this?
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>>123831598
it's krakhead
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>>123830574
Someone should then buy up the good franchises and keep them going (Goemon, Castlevania, Suikoden).
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GG's on the dubs lobby.
>dat mii fighter
>dat ganon
Good times.
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>>123831694

eh, everything has to end. either a franchise closes on a good note, or eventually becomes some lazy jew's moneymaking scheme.

one of the appeals of smash is that you can enjoy the nostalgia of your old favorite games, without needing to hope capcom doesn't fuck up again for the millionth time.

i would rather konami dies so that its franchises will stop being ceaseless raped. i would honestly prefer to never see anything with the name SILENT HILL on it ever again.
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rip dubs
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>these dubs
GGs ladies. I'm going to try host 3ds dubs again, so feel free to lemme know if interested. Hope this encourages our 3ds friends to play.
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>>123831519
I'd tell you to gimp yourself but you already main ganondorf
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>>123832169
SAVAGE
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>>123832131
>>123832047
I find the similarities in these two pics to be quite odd. Must be the power of Tomoko Sunday.
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>>123832169

I'll take that as a compliment.

>>123832550

Best kind of Sunday.
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>>123832131

host dubs, fuckwad
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>>123832686
2 more for 3ds dubs back the fuck off?!
>>123832714
Somebody still feeling woozy from all that Tomoko beating you senseless.
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>>123832648
>tfw beating that dumb old man with ONLY Mortal Draw in last play of Twilight Princess
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>>123832131
Are dubs going to happen today?
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>>123832131
I'll dubs
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>Be uni student
>"Game Room" in the student recreation building
>Guy brings his WiiU everyday and 2 GC adapters.
>Group of these kids play smash all day
>Start playing with them
>All they play is 8-player
>They all use customs
>They all freak out whenever they pull of some half-decent combo because of their custom moves
>mfw this whole situation

Should I just stop going to this place because I feel like 8-player smash is really messing up my play style in 1v1?
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Reminder that this Tuesday we have yet another weekly tournament for the Wii U players! Consider stopping by and showing me how gud youve gittened.

http://challonge.com/tourneytuesday30
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>>123833439
Doesn't he kick you if you get that close?
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>>123833851
>>123834046

i think moxy is too busy sucking some dicks
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>>123834067
convince them that 1v1 is more fun
challenge everyone to a 1v1 money match and trash them one by one
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>>123834141
I'm telling him to stop sucking dicks, wait a minute
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>>123834067
8 Player Smash is pretty staple in my local, though we also do 1v1s and doubles just as much. I don't see how 8 player would mess up your 1v1, if anything it should sharpen your reactions and move priority. Also its pretty fun.
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>tfw all these fun characters you want to play but their neutral is fucking ass
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>>123834141
>not being able to multitask
Literally git gud.
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>>123834345
Who are you trying to play? We might be able to help you with our high population of low tier heroes.
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>>123834248
>trash them
I'm bad

>>123834296
It is fun sometimes. I've pulled off some cool stuff and won a few matches myself but idk about sharpening your skills
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>>123834275
No, I was deleting your favorite pics on r34, Cucckyy.

First guy was asking for WiiU dubs, no doubt. Will host with 4th
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>>123834491
>I'm bad
git gud, it can actually be really fun
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>>123834639

we already have 4

>>123834141
>>123834046
>>123833851

>moxy
>basic arithmetic

choose

none
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>>123834410
It's just a lot, falco is one of them. I play a top 10 character so everyone else is so lacking but fun in their own right but I just wish these lower tier characters I find fun just had something more.
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>>123834657
u right. That's why I bought my own WiiU recently.
to git gud
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>>123834790
Will admit I was never a fan of math, but I could outread your ass.

>>123834046
>>123833851
Two

Unless you're the fourth
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>>123834345
>fight some guy on twitch
>tells me "its strange fighting someone who has no idea what neutral is"
>i still have no idea what neutral is
Fuck whatever the neutral is just fuck shit up
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>>123835090

HOST

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST
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>this fucking connection time
Imma cut you if you don't already have me added
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>>123835105
The neutral is when both players go back and forth and wait for the right opportunity to attack one another.
>>
>unable to join game

fuck everything
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>>123835105
Neutral is when neither of you are still recovering from a hit. There's a whole chase, combo and evade game after a hit is landed most of the time.
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>>123835856
>>123836203
He still won't understand it, that's just dorf's way of playing the game
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>>123835183
Calm down Jacob
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>>123836394
fuck off kokonoe
>>
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>>123836394
Jesus Christ
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>>123836483
I want to do it with Kokonoe too! >.<
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>>123835856
>>123836203
I sort of get it thanks anyway
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>>123836394
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>>123834067

>hey guys, I got the latest version of game
>I love game, it has character and other character
>>hey guys I have a better idea, how about only 2 of us play game, everyone else can play a 14 year old game or just watch


don't even think about smash, just think about what you said

are you really that kind of person?
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>play 3ds dubs they said
>it will be fun they said
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>>123836872
where did he mention melee at all
>>
And that's the power of 3ds dubs
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>>123836937
>>123836896
What am I missing?
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>>123829134
>>123829134

GGs
was fun
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>>123836937
>>123836896
In retrospect, I shouldn't be playing 3ds outside with this ass freezing weather and no battery life for the sake of keeping my word. My b.

GGs dubs. I'll rehost after charging this ugly little bastard. If not, tomorrow. Sorry.
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>>123837024
Ggs.
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>>123836872
>nobody mentions melee at all

holy shit inferiority complex
>>
someone else host 3ds dubs and I'll join
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>>123836936
>>123837124

didn't he bring his own?

or did he really expect 6 other people to spend most of their off time at a game club just watching?
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>>123836872
see
>>123836936
I never mentioned melee or forcing everyone in that group to play 1v1's I just asked if I should stop going and let them play 8-player lol you should just chill anon

>>123837196
What the literal fuck are you talking about lol
>>
GG's dubs. Good half game Horneaus but I can't play that slideshow.
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>>123837260
GG

Don't know what's causing it desu
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>>123837169
I'll join if it's in a while, see
>>123837089
Glad dubs wasn't that laggy, by the way.
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Anyone up for some fresh weekday 1v1s?
NNID - Tag7191
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this game is like

>47% spacing
>34% reaction
>19% tiers


am I about right?
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>>123837925

more like

>65% character mobility
>20% character matchup
>15% character framedata and/or range
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>>123836936
Will you fckin meleefags fuck off already dead game smash 4 is the newer relevant esports game sponsored by nintendo and has more vieweres eat shit fox only le upthrow upair memebags
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>>123837925
>33% aerial mobility
>33% grounded mobility
>33% stage control ability
>1% random
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>>123838181
(you)
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>>123838041
nyak nyak nyak, u funy muh nigga!!!!!!!!!
>>123837925
>tiers
>being a "percent"
wow, a real life scrub
tiers are determined in the aftermath/results of that shit
plus anyway this game is just like melee except lamer and no tech needed
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>>123837925
10% luck, 20% skill
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>>123838406
15% concentrated power of will
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>>123838406
15% concentrated power of will
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>>123838406
150% rage
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If you dont find kokonoe and moxy's slutty behavior at least somewhat hot then you must be gay af
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>>123838582
>>123838618
5% pleasure?
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>>123838806
fuck off penta
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>>123838838
50% pain
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>>123838838
10% pure
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>>123838838
>no one will ever lust for you because you're a rhino
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>>123838806
>>>/lgtb/
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>>123838906
100% reason to remember the name
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What music does /ssbg/ listen to while they play smash?
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>>123839312
My youtube playlist.
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>>123839312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4VaAq2bdIU
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>>123839312
>>
>>123838390

so you think a match between
>shiek
>ZZS
>rosalina

and
>zelda
>ganondorf
>samus

is equal?
>>
>>123839312
R&B
>>
>>123839312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPNdFHj2VJQ
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>>123839624
point is tiers are just ranks for how character does in meta
in game you think about the matchup not how low on the tier list the characters are
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>>123839312
if melee: whatever is on playlist
if project m: game ost that shit is crisp
>>
>>123839312
Either nothing and the smash music, or just whatever playlist/underground album I've been bumpin that week.
>>123839624
Where did he even imply that?
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>>123839312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI8vclJhgT0&index=103&list=PLag9m0g7GfRzRKi5b6fpzgzuB-TJSeuZ5
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If you play a character rank C or lower you play a dishonest automemederp gorilla mash character and need to learn how to play smash 4
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>>123840490
>Dedede
>A-tier
lmao
>>
>>123840490
do not post bad tier lists in this thread thank you for your time
>>
>>123840561
this is an honesty tier list, not overall
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>>123840490
How does it feel knowing that (you) will never be good at smash 4? always limitted by arbitrary "honor" rules and just blaming losses on "dishonest" characters
this is 100% scrubdom, have fun staying bad forever
>>
>>123840490
>samus is still C-tier
does the suffering end
>>
>>123839312
Weebshit remixes, rap or no music at all.
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>>123840490
>tfw most played characters are in S, A, B, D, and F
>>
>>123840645
this desu
People who unironically believe in any type of honesty should either read https://sirlin.squarespace.com/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub and quit that shit or stick to playing in for fun FFA
>>
>>123840645
>being this upset you play a skilless gorilla mash character
>>
>>123841056
Epic, the classic XDDD U MAD reply
You basically just admitted defeat, gg you immature shitposter, Ill be busy blowing my cheddar made from winning locals on hookers and cocaine, have fun going 0-2 every day with shitty fucking ike
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>>123841056
pick one >>123840964
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>>123841313
sonic player detected
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>>123841056
If they're so skilless what does that make you?
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Games?
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>>123841620
SAVAGE
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>>123839312
I train on guar plains so I don't need music
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looks like people are upset i called them out for playing dishonest characters
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>>123841620
SAVAGE
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Who will Zero's best man be?
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Is Pikachu not the most cancerous character in smash 4?
>fsmash is safe at most ranges
>all tilts kill.
>aerials kill, gimp, and combo
>can kill at 0%
>quick attack
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I wish committing suicide was a meme so ssbg was purged of shitposters
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>>123841985
Nairo.
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>>123841985
Mew2King
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>>123842006
What the fuck do you mean by KILL?!?!?!? ARE YOU DUMB LMAO
Pikachu makes the game more like SSBM so hes a good character, not like Palutena or DDD who make the game really slow and zzzzzzz

>>123841985
m2k or some random bitchboy from br huehueheueuehuueh
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>>123841985
Me desu
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>>123842006
not trying hard enough
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>>123842056
would you hang out with luigi
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>>123838390
>nyak nyak nyak, u funy muh nigga!!!!!!!!!

great point, thanks for bringing that gem to the table, tyrone.
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>literally impossible to get online
nice game sakurai

reported. not even fucking kidding.
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>>123842390
no prob CUUUUUUUUUUZ
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>>123842409
announcing reports is against the rules
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>>123842409
you're not supposed to say you reported something
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>>123842409
>announcing reports
get out of my circlejerk i mean thread
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>>123842495
>>123842559
>>123842589
fuck off kids I wasn't reporting anyone in this thread I was reporting Sakurai to Nintendo because his game is broken

fuck off
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HONESTY
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>>123842639
have you ever made a game? (raughs)
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>>123842656
ok
no
billy joel was cool when i was like 12
you just a fedora tippin faggot for publicly liking him in 2015
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>>123842712
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>>123842716

>hating on based billy joel
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>>123842938
not hating the music but please you are not le classy gentleman for liking billy joel
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>>123842170
>DDD makes the game really slow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQGzouCm0JE
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>A communication error has occurred.
>A communication error has occurred.
>A communication error has occurred.
>A communication error has occurred.
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>>123842716
>disliking billy joel

you're the fedora tipper here
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>>123842996

>you are not le classy gentleman for liking billy joel

How is this even related to each other?
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>>123842997
>overlaying music on game audio
oh lord
>hurrr i can spam gordos against this scrub look at me le MLG 90000000 apm xDDD
What was the point of this post?
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Post your youtube replays!
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>>123842997
he does
pure ledge stalling and never dies
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>>123843125
I'm not even going to spongebob this post
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>>123843124
Ive seen some shit
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>>123842938
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Has the date for the announcement come out yet?
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>>123843551
December 2016
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>>123842938
>Star
My nigga
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>>123843125
>spam
No, but I counter your bait card with this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ccbh-eopbY

These aren't mine so if you want to complain about the music do it somewhere else
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>>123843636
Nothing more concrete?
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>>123843551
>an announcement for an announcement

What a tease this shit is
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>>123842271
only if he brings the rope
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>>123843664
December 2017. One more year every time someone asks about it
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>>123843545
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>>123840490
>A literal gorilla
>Not a gorilla mash character
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>>123843545

Don't do this to me, anon...
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Anyone up for a few games?

NNID = MLAKI5
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>>123840490
>ryu in E tier
Go home with this shit.
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>>123843874
I'll bring you freedom and your dick will take it
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>>123843990
>doing mad of to toon do little to no input
Thank us for losses too much
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>>123844385
what
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>>123844385
what
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>>123844385
That made 0 sense. You just spat words out??
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>>123844232
Anon pls
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>>123844385
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>>123844385
r u ok
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>>123844385
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>>123844538
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>>123844385
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>>123844385
Attempted translation
>being mad for maining a character of little to no input
Blame him for losing too much?
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1v1 anyone?
id is peridot-sama
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>>123844787
Much better thank you
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>>123844787
This went from making no sense to making no sense in a cleaner format.
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How likely would it be to get some 3ds dubs going
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>>123844385
real talk, I haven't laughed that hard in weeks. thanks anon, u tha reel mvp
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>>123845104

Anon, s-stop...
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>>123820446
>only playing FD/omega

holy shit no wonder you dont want ryu
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>>123844928
Host up.
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>>123845162
I doubt it'll happen desu but I'm here
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>>123845162
Me
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>>123845352
>>123845670

I WANT TO FUCK THIS CLOWN
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>Retard throws out a smash attack at a dumb time
>It connects because who the fuck would throw that smash there I can't read that
It's like shitting on a page in the middle of your novel
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In a tournament, who should win from Bowsercide?
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>>123846179
Not bowser because some characters can make it back to the stage if the game didn't end because bowser killed himself.
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>Get hit a bit up in the air
>Input jump + air dodge
>Game only reads the dodge
>Fall straight into a smash attack
EVERY TIME
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>>123846248
From my (and others) testing it's completely 50/50 for every character/stage. Completely random if Bowser dies first or it's a tie
>>123846321
You buffered both during hitstun. Shield has a higher input priority than jump so the shield input is the only that happened. Brawl was the game with a queue of buffered inputs.
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>>123845824
>>123845778
One more
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>>123846321
you can't buffer both a jump and a dodge and the dodge takes priority, buffer the jump and then air dodge when the jump starts, but don't get mad if they hit you before the dodge comes out.

you can't have the best of both worlds
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>>123846531
>Shield has a higher input priority than jump so the shield input is the only that happened.
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>>123846531
I remember testing it on some omega versus kirby and it was always a tie and always bowser losing on sudden death
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who 1v1 here?
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>>123846631
Sorry m8, sakurai's orders
>>123846678
Which patch was this? It's been changed quite a number of times.
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>>123846531
some stages don't actually kill the other person at all, like it will NOT kill them, you just double jump and recover, but on a last stock situation you will not have the chance to because bowser killed himself.

The only logical choice is to make the side b ALWAYS kill the other person but second so that bowser can only do this when a stock ahead. Give less or almost no control to the player being grabbed so that they can't "bowserside" bowser and make him lose in exchange.

Sakurai will never care to change this mechanic though
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>>123846706
I'll play
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>>123846753
probably 1.09 or 1.10. I remember it was last summer.
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>>123846762
Uh, let me restart my router. Ive been having weird latency problems all night,
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>>123847078
I just checked and even if I had utorrent open it had stopped downloading hours ago and my upload speed is capped to almost nothing
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>>123846759
Same question as >>123846753
but my first question was relative to tournament rulesets rather than results screens. Mainly because the initiator wins all other suicide kills, except bowser's is random for if it actually suicides or loses. If the ruleset favors the one who got grabbed, then bowser loses access to side b when down in percent cause they can steer him off stage.
>1.1.1 - When Bowser dies or ties or ties is now entirely random. Stages Bowser use to lose every time now allow him to tie. Stages where Bowser used to tie every time now allow him to occasionally lose. Platforms don’t seem to affect this behavior.
Sakurai did give more control to bowser in 1.06
>>123846878
Yeah, no reports of it being completely random until 1.1.1.
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>>123846582
sorry Mox, imma have to drop out of dubs tonight. I'm falling asleep.

Hopefully we can have at least one solid dubs session soon.
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>tfw you accidentally learn how to do tech you couldn't do before
It's the little things like this that keep me going.
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>>123847571
This, I accidentally learned how to do that quick ledge trump in a super laggy FG match.
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>>123847648
>practicing shit at 1/2x speed
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>>123847331
No prob, my man. Feeling a bit dazed myself. I'll keep on trying until 3ds players return.
I'm more in the mood for making people ragequit in TF2
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>>123847571
iktf
My first shield drop up air in smash 4 was while I was getting pressured on a platform with nowhere to go.
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GGs chad
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>>123848027
Good games, Peridot.
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>>123848410
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>>123848551
10/10 file name
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>>123848551
>that filename
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>>123848551
>>123848625
>>123848959
i dont get it
is it some hot ssbg meme?
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>>123848410
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>>123848625
>>123848959
I try
>>123849001
yes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBLzb-Rd40o
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>>123849148
Ness is pretty balanced desu
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>>123849271
Yes, his sister is on her way to become the next Zero
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>>123849137


>playing against shitters: the animation
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>>123849148

i want to make a webm of spiking madoka with ness's dair
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>>123848551

that's not me playing, is it?
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>>123850840
no
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Gotta stop for now Rakyy, people keep pestering me and I gotta answer them. Its been fun though, good games.
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>>123851063
GGs chazo. Sorry for taunting, it's unavoidable when memeing with Falcon. At this rate I'll never be able to show my face at my locals again and not be the last place.
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>>123823779

Cloud
>>
rip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO4jTHJWVOA
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>>123851110
>Sorry for taunting
Nothing wrong with taunting, never gotta apologize for having fun.

Also you can do so much more if you just play a little more patiently, which is a broad term, but when I say it I mean just sit still and hold up your shield. One of the games when you were pikachu on your last stock, I was sitting around 190% and you kept running up to me and throwing out random smash attacks, and I literally sat still and shielded like 8 consecutive smash attacks before i eventually grabbed you and killed you with a throw.

When your enemy is fishing for kills like that, just wait and hold up your shield until they throw out an unsafe attack and keep punishing them for it. On the reverse side, you really shouldnt be so obvious with what you are going for, especially if your enemy is just standing still and shielding. Just grab em.

Also, remember if your opponrnt likes to Jab jab -> Grab or smash attack like I was with the brawler and sort of with DDD (Yoshi does this alot too), dont fall for it. Just shield if they are going for a smash, or jump if they are going for a smash. Or jab, since youre falcon.
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>>123851327
>On the reverse side, you really shouldnt be so obvious with what you are going for, especially if your enemy is just standing still and shielding. Just grab em.
I really didn't think I would kill you with a throw because I was motherfucking pikachu the rat that can't kill. Although in retrospective I should have gone with an fthrow and attempt to kill off-stage.

I'll try to keep your advice in mind. Thanks senpai.
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>>123851806
Well yeah I know thats one of pikachus problems, but I just think theres no excuse for going for yolo upsmashes unless you KNOW youre going to land it.

Ive got decent reflexes so I gueess it can be hard to get the jump on me, but a lot of time I will literally just turtle until the enemy does something silly and I capitalize on it.

Sometimes I do the exact opposite with the Mii, once the enemy is within kill%s, I just start throwing out random side Bs praying the enemy gets hit or they drop their shield. It works maybe 40% of the time, and thats not worth it at all. Youll win more consistently if you just whittle the enemy away with careful grabs, even if your grabs suck like DDDs. It still upsets me that NONE of his throws kill until like upper 180%s near the ledge with rage.
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>>123851968
>I just start throwing out random side Bs praying the enemy gets hit or they drop their shield.
This is the main reason it's so tempting to throw out yolo smashes. I should stop doing that because no one competent falls for that.
> It still upsets me that NONE of his throws kill until like upper 180%s near the ledge with rage.
I know that feel
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>>123851968
>It still upsets me that NONE of his throws kill until like upper 180%s near the ledge with rage.
That's why you condition a grab response and throw out a dash attack.
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>>123852459
Go to bed, Jman.
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>>123852538
who
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Why does Dedede's mouth close during his side taunt when the game ends?
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>>123854873
dessert
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>>123854873
He is too perfect
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is it possible to fix ganon?

>nair wasn't trash
>grab has longer reach
>side B doesn't have a wind up
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>>123855408
>kills in 10 hits instead of 3
yes
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>>123855408
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>>123855408

ganon isn't terrible, he's low midtier and probably the 2nd or 3rd best heavy

heavies are just shit, fixing heavies would "fix" ganon, but there's nothing wrong with him inherently that isn't wrong with all of the heavies.

mobility is life.

also ganon is great at a low/mid level of play, which is primarily where their balance is focused, and what 99.5% of players are at.
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>>123848410
More webm to keep this thread alive
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>>123855551
>he's low midtier and probably the 2nd or 3rd best heavy
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>>123855725

i'm sorry that i'm making you feel less respectable anon
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Has the novelty worn off for you? Or do you still find joy in seeing Wario beating the shit out of Ryu or Charizard fighting the dog from Duck Hunt?
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>>123855551
>probably the 2nd or 3rd best heavy
Pretty big typo you've got there, I'm sure you meant to say he's probably the 2nd or 3rd worst in the whole cast.
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>>123855759
>ganon is the 2nd or 3rd best heavy
>using the term respectable in regards to metagame
triggered
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>>123855408
>Ganondorf
>needing fixing
>le ebin break all shields
>le ebin ganoncide
>le ebin ebil laugh
>repeat
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>>123855837
LOL
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>>123855837
>he's probably the 2nd or 3rd worst in the whole cast.

i think you've got some serious delusion if you think ganon is substantially worse than lucina, zelda, mii sword, charizard, mewtwo, etc

he's not good by any stretch, but he's not THAT bad. he just suffers in the way that heavies and characters with bad recoveries suffer

>>123855896

i assume he's referring to high level play, but none of the superheavies are good at high level, and most of the heavies are quite bad there, too. there's nothing uniquely wrong with ganon.
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>>123855928
>Lucina, Charizard
>worse than Ganon
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>>123855928
Charizard, Zelda, and Mewtwo all have TOOLS that let them PLAY the game instead of waiting for the opponent to mess up or hoping they fall into a smash attack and die at 60%.
>>
Link is absolute cancer

>arrow arrow bomb boomerang arrow bomb roll roll arrow arrow bomb smash attack boomerang arrow bomb bomb arrow arrow roll roll arrow bomb smash attack boomerang arrow taunt :^))))
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>>123856030
LAGGY
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>>123855984
>greentext
>more greentext
>BUFF GANON ;_;;;;;;;

thanks for the smile, anon

>>123856018
>have TOOLS that let them PLAY the game instead of waiting for the opponent

so does ganon

again, i just think you're under some immense delusion. ganon is as good as a superheavy is gonna get, unless they radically overhaul the game or accidentally introduce another gimmicky throw "combo" like they did with DK

>>123856030

ROLLING
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>>123856078
ROLLING
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>>123855928
>anime sword fighter
>bad
NOT IN MY GAME
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>>123856085
>>123856086
LINKS
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>Dedede can counter literally everything Bowser does without any sort of punishable opening
fuck off

go to FUCKING HELL
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How accurate is this for a top 10 tier list?
1. Sheik
2. ZSS
3. Rosalina
4. Mario
5. Peach
6. Pikachu
7. Ryu
8. Sonic
9. Meta Knight
10. Fox
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>>123856167
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>>123856085
Ganon has no combos. No approach options. No way to relieve pressure. No way to pressure an opponent. No mobility. No niche. His heaviest punishes are a single, sometimes two hits with anything additional requiring a hard read for his slow ass frame data to accomplish anything. Nothing going for him. Every other heavy has at the very least one of these things.
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>>123855928


>mii sword
>charizard
>bad

how exactly is charizard worse than ganon?

charizard is heavier than ganon but has more range on a lot of his attacks, they come out faster, and he himself is faster, runs almost as fast as shiek.
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>>123856167
adapt
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>>123856186
Put Pikachu and Ryu above Peach and it's a good list
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>>123856273
see >>123856167
>fuck off
>go to FUCKING HELL
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>>123856242
>I am bad at Ganon and so can you
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>>123856242
>>123856264
>pros
>command grab with huge range
>heavy
>very good shield break game
>reliably kills middleweights at 70 from mid with a soft read
>decent range and stage coverage
>a plethora of good kill moves

>cons
>slow as shit
>horrible recovery
>no reliable way to approach in most mu's

again, nothing very unique to ganon here. he has plenty of tools, he just DEMANDS constant reads and risk-taking, like most mid/low tier characters in sm4sh, and he struggles due to his lack of mobility and being one of the few characters left without a good recovery

y'all niggas need to just watch panchito (or even sakuyadorf) and realize ganon is 100% balanced at any level of play below high tier, which none of you will ever likely reach.
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>>123856356
>adapt
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>>123856414

so what you're basically saying is
>ganon is good if your opponent is worse than you
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>>123856374
>offers no points and greentexts a baseless assumptions
>>123856414
>a frame SIXTEEN command grab
>fastest shield break is frame SIXTEEN
>otherwise frame 81 or your opponent holding shield through two frame 20+ smash attacks
>ganon's smash attacking being a "soft" read

>DEMENDS constant reads and risk-taking
Thanks for the exact definition of a shit character
>watch panchito (or even sakuyadorf)
Oh. You're trolling. Nevermind, good one, you got me.
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>>123856414
>>horrible recovery
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>>123856186
Oh yeah Peach, I remember all those Peach players that joined all those tournaments and got so far in them
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>>123856736
Hello Peach main
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>>123856592

when did i say he was good?

work on your bait, babycakes.

>>123856686

panchito is arguably one of the best players here.

>being THIS buttblasted

>>123856702

it's sm4sh. legit 90% of the cast has a pseudo-infinite recovery. if yours is bad, you're gonna be hurtin', and this is one of ganon's actual problems.

but i'd rather some recoveries get nerfed, instead of his being buffed. everyone is already getting dangerously homogenized like melee
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>>123856773
Ganondorf actually has the best magnets.
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>>123856773
>work on your bait, babycakes.

but you replied
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>>123856702
>le ebin side b kill xD
fuck off
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>>123856826

i still don't think that makes his recovery less than awful. the only thing that stops the entire cast from demolishing him COMPLETELY offstage is the threat of a ganoncide

>>123856857

touche
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>>123856736
Well, every stacked event has a sheik in top 8. The ones with Nairo have a ZSS. The ones in the midwest or with Dabuz have a Rosa. Ones with Ally have a Mario. Only two have had a Peach in Saj and SlayerZ. Ones with ESAM have a Pika. Everyone else is hit or miss
>>123856773
>no points except another namedrop
>melee cast is homogenized
You're the one not trying
>>123856826
It's actually Doc. Dorf's just taller than Doc is.
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can someone teach me how to use megaman's leaf shield?

I feel like if I put it on its like a giant sign that says

>i'm going to run at you know

I kinda just try to touch them and like roll around them to dodge and hit for that SICK 2% per leaf
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>3 laggy ZSS in a row
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>>123856910
>no points except another namedrop

and? your response to me referencing panchito (or to a lesser extent, sakuyadorf) was

>STOP TROLLING REEEEEEE

your anus may be fractured beyond repair. i'm so sorry you had to find out this way.

>melee cast is homogenized

and? if i'm comparing melee to street fighter, mvc, or specifically tekken, it's EXTREMELY homogenized. the best thing sm4sh has going for it, is that it has a ton of diversity. granted, much of that diversity is very unviable, but still much less so than melee at this point.
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>>123856772
No such a thing as a Peach main. I'm just annoyed to see people put Peach that high in tier lists and ignore Villager completely, which has actual results (despite only getting first place in Japan) and is ten times more used than Peach. Also think Diddy still deserves being top 10 despite the nerfs
>>123856910
>only ESAM plays Pika
>only Dabuz plays Rosa
>only Nairo plays ZSS
>ONLY ALLY PLAYS MARIO
It's like you don't want tournaments at all. There are Pika and ZSS everywhere. Rosa a little less but she is still super abundant. And don't get me started about Mario, they are absolutely everywhere, they fill the whole tournament alone, there are more Mario now than Diddies before the nerfs, if I had a penny for every time a Mario gets on stream I would probably have around four dollars right now. Which is not much but is a lot of pennies
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>>123857173
>No such a thing as a Peach main
What?
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>>123857092
Watch how scatt uses it
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>>123857223

who is scatt?
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>>123856910
>only the absolute best players should count for the most famous top tiers
>but Saj and SlayerZ count for Peach!
Loving every laugh
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>>123857249
Best megaman player
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>>123857092
Have a metal blade in hand if the opponent is on stage, that's something to z drop when you jump around them.
Normally you use it to edgeguard recoveries without a hitbox or a small one. Jump down while they rise, possible footstool, and then rise back up.
>>123857173
I can name half a dozen Peach mains off the top of my head. And I was naming characters and players who CONSISTENTLY top 8 STACKED tournaments. I know that one local was won by a charizard, but the plethora of mario's on stream aren't picking up the money. Only Ally is really consistent when there's a bunch of top talent nearby.
>>123857316
Same thing. The peach mains were only mentioned because he was talking about Peach in the first place.
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>Ike and Wario constantly getting to top 8 and higher, prevailing on popular players like Anti, NAKAT and Ally, having a lot of players and increasing in popularity
>nobody dares top put them in top 10
>Villager constantly winning tourneys in Japan, also beating Vinnie, Ally AND NAIRO WITHOUT LOSING A SINGLE MATCH
>nobody ever puts him in top 10
>Peach mains barely get any results and mostly win in tourneys with literally whos, often not even in those
>everybody putting Peach in top 10, some people in top 5
Explain?
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so are miis still not allowed online in for glory? haven't played on wiiU yet and lost my 3ds ages ago.

like, I guess hitler shit and nigger shit could be a problem but then why not just let us play as the defaults?
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>>123857704
Villagers always been top 10 in japan's tier list
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>Sonic
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>>123857704
Tbh, a thing top tiers share is top players in multiple regions and consistent national placings.
Ryuga did well that one time but Ike is pretty much Ryo at this point. Wario is even worse off. Ranai vs the Americans was a friendly, last minute, crew battle, Nairo and Ranai have never met in a bracket match. Like I said, Peach has top 8'd at two stacked tourneys in America and many in Japan.
Of those characters though, I'd probably say Villager>Peach>Ike>Wario
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>>123857983
I haven't fought a sonic since like when the game came out what happened?
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>>123858082

i find sonics all over the place, especially on FG and in random Twitch tournaments

desu, i think to main sonic, you just HAVE to be either autistic, a furry, or an autistic furry.
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Hi /ssbg/
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>>123858253
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>>123858267
Hi.
Post main.
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>>123858358
Posting my main will give away who I am.
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>>123858358
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>>123858408
Does it matter? Post main. Preferably in picture. It's smash related
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>>123858486
Cool main. The way his jab transitions into nair and tilts is weird to me. Especially fade back/in nair because every other character does a bair/fair. I can't play him very well.
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Does anybody want to play?
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>>123858649

me neither
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>>123858881
I don't know faggot post your ID
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>>123858358
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>>123858913
NNID is Renetan, feel free to host.
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>>123858358
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>>123858968
Never heard of you, ever posted any memes on here?
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>>123858913
>not already knowing who it is
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>>123858889
It's okay. I don't put in too much time with Mega Man but I'm sure if you work hard at it, you can get better.
>>123858962
Peach is a fun character too. I like to edgeguard with her but it's not uncommon for me to umbrella facing away from the ledge and miss.
>>123858990
I was never good with Dedede. I'm really bad at playing the neutral with him, but his combos are fun.
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>>123858358
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>>123859126
>it's not uncommon for me to umbrella facing away from the ledge and miss
I know that all too well.
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>>123858358
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>>123858358
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>>123858358
Main and now it's time for sleep
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>>123858358
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>>123859764
>>123859864
>I just HAD to make sure everyone knew who I was on this anonymous imageboard!
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>>123859764
>>123859864
Typical Zelda main.
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>>123859961
>ANONYMOUS IS LEGION
>STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT
>WE NEVER FORGIVE, WE NEVER FORGET

ah yes, i remember being 16.
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>>123860081
Put your name back on retard
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>>123859764
>>123859864
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>>123860081
You know there is a reason that namefagging isn't the norm on 4chan right?
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>>123860137

primarily because autists that throw temper tantrums when they see other people voluntarily choosing to not be anonymous.

see above

>ANONYMOUS IS LEGIONNNNN
>SECRET CLUB SECRET CLUB ;( ;( ;( REEEEEEEEEE
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>>123860176
Ah, so you haven't been here very long. Carry on.
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>>123860196
Ah, so you haven't been here very long. Carry on.
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>>123860223
Ah, so you haven't been here very long. Carry on.
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>>123860176
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>>123860176
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>>123855408
The only buffs Ganon needs are a longer grab & a slightly faster jab, anything else is a bonus.
I'm scared of him becoming another DK if they buff him the wrong way.
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>>123860176
>retarded Zelda main THIS butthurt over being poked fun at
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>>123860332
>I'm scared of him becoming decent
For what purpose?
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>>123860176
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>>123860361
DK is beyond braindead, he's like prepatch Luigi only not as good.
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>>123860347
i know that you're new, so you're probably not aware of this, but: anonymous is actually more than one person

i know, i know. this shakes the foundation of everything you thought you knew, but try to let it sink in. take your time, i'm not in any hurry. :)
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>>123860412
Oh. That's a pretty dumb reason.
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>>123860418
BULLSEYE
Fuck off fusiongate
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>>123860332
Agreed. Ganondorf is annoying enough to deal with now. He's already a scrub killer so he'll never get a major buff, though.
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>>123860479
BULLSEYE
Fuck off Penta
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>>123860538

NO

EVERYONE NEEDS A FOLLOW-UP STRING OUT OF DTHROW

EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO STRING UPAIRS INFINITELY AND KO OFF THE TOP AT 50

E
V
E
R
Y
O
N
E V E R Y O N E
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>>123860538
>tfw scared for december nerfs
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>>123860952
>tfw all nerfs will be inconsequential other than Luma staying dead
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>>123861091
>tfw everybody tells you that you're no real good at Rosalina and you should stop but you enjoy abusing her bullshit too much
I love Rosalina platonically .
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>>123861209

i 100% believe rosa is the easiest character in the game to play effectively.
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Good afternoon!

Anyone up for dubs?
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>>123861281
>afternoon
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>>123861395

it's Chronos. all he does is try to find americans to play dubs with, so he has someone to carry him while exploiting his 900 ping.
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>>123861261
>aggro playstyle
>try out rosalina
>get destroyed
never again
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>>123860176
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>>123861261
I could never play Rosa effectively cause I'm always losing luma and I have no idea what constitutes a good punish. I can play villager, sheik, and even ROB relatively effectively, but more aggro than you'd usually see. I can't turtle up behind luma though.
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>>123861261
She can be a bit boring to play sometimes and without abusing Luma correctly your moves are not so safe but killing somebody at 100% with a huge as fuck Up Air that comes out immediately is pretty nice. I also like Rosalina as a character, I think she's pretty cool for a Mario character.

>>123861476
This.
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>>123861438
Stop being retarded
He's one of the few regulars who looks for matches instead of shitting up the thread and he plays with everyone not only americans
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>>123861578
>defending
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>>123861625
>attacking as a coward no name anon
Feels safe huh
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>>123861679
>wasn't even me
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>>123861679
>defending as a coward no name anon
Feels safe huh
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>>123861261
She's not the easiest but she's pretty fucking easy. Its pretty amazing how badly she beats certain characters just by doing her jank.
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>>123861707
Doesn't matter
My point stands
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>>123861772
>Its pretty amazing how badly she beats certain characters just by doing her jank.

list them please

i'm looking for an easy alt that hoses certain characters
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>>123861780
Are you the "waah Falkore" guy? God damn you're pathetic.
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>>123861839
Hi falkore
Was wondering where the shitposts came from, are you still getting triggered by chronos? I pity you
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I just wanted to play dubs, what's up with the heavy shitpossting lately? I'll be back for games later again.
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>chronos derailing again
baka senpai
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>>123861819
Are your best approaches low BKB?
Are your best approaches low range?
Are your your best combo starters grabs?
Is your ground speed shit?
Is your air speed shit?
Is your recovery easy to gimp?
If you answered yes to two or more of these questions, you're about to get bodied by a Rosalina!
CONGRATULATIONS TO:
Mario, Luigi, Ness, Kirby, Fox, Captain Falcon, and Wii Fit Trainer among many other players who weren't able to be mentioned in this post!
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>>123862250
Luigi and Ness get bodied by Rosalina, though.
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>>123862250
>2 stock somebody as Ness
>they switch to Rosalina
>2 stock them again

nothing can compare to this feel.
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>>123862337
>i can't read
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>>123862337
Yes. Those are two of the ones who answered YES to two of the questions, and will in turn get bodied by Rosalina
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>>123862208
>namefagging
He's looking for games retard
>tripfagging
He has his own stalkers who keep posting with his name so he needs his trip
>avatarfagging
Posting his mains like everyone else

Fucking autist
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>>123862431

Hi Chronos.
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>>123862390
>>123862409
Oh, I got confused because Falcon was mentioned and he actually doesn't do too bad vs Rosalina.
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Games?
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>>123862458
It wasn't me but he has a point.
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>>123862458
I'm not chronos
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>>123862484
Yeah it's pretty even they both pretty much fuck each other up. Dabuz thinks falcon wins it so that's why he goes olimar.
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>>123862519

Hi Chronos.
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>>123862519
>senpai finally noticed me
Best day ever
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>>123862484
Falcon has a really good bait and punish game. Rosalina has a really good wait and punish game. It's really hard to bait a Rosalina to approach when she wants to pick one spot and stand there until you approach. He has to take out luma with a dash attack. It's up to Rosa to be in center stage so that doesn't happen, and also to react and punish that approach. Once she's cornered Falcon and taken stage control until he's been pushed off, she's pretty much got the stock.

If she makes a mistake and does lose Luma, Falcon is one of the characters best able to capitalize though.
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>>123862574
>Dabuz thinks falcon wins it so that's why he goes olimar.

Dabuz is a fraud and a moron who barely understands the game, meta, or his character.

He is literally 100% COMPLETELY carried by Rosalina, the most braindead top tier in the entire game by a wide, WIDE margin.
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>>123862582
Hi. Just wanted to let you know that every time you see me posting with my trip I'm available for games since there seems to be some misunderstanding.

>>123862585
I'm happy I could make your day better, Anon.
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>>123862654
Spongebob.jpg
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>>123862519
Stop encouraging this shit you moron.
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>>123862697
>every time you see me posting with my trip I'm available for games
>>123862510
oi
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>>123862740
I was referring to dubs but I can go for some 1v1. Need to get that rust off me.
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>>123862827
I have a room open
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yeah nah lol
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nah yeah lol
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>>123862997
>>123863046

>half a second delay
Well at least we tried, Australia. Do you main Mewtwo? Refreshing to see him as an opponent.

Anyone else up for 1v1? Since it's probably too early for dubs.
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>>123863080
nah, main dk
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>>123863080

sign me up
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>>123863161
Need to take care of something real quick, I'll be available in 10 minutes.
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>>123863161
Ready.
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>>123864273
>not making it a webm
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>>123864273
>The winner is, Meta Knight!
The timing is what gets me
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>>123864273
>yoshi gets upair-upb 2stocked
>throw his controller, looks like he's actually about to start crying

nice tourny 8/10
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>>123864378
i gahtzu senpai
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kay, last for me chronos, ggs.

i'd keep playing, but you figured out my zard, and i can't beat marth anymore with ness :^)
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>>123864753
Good games man. I love fighting heavys, sorry about all those nosferatus though. Hope to play you again some time.
>zard simply jabs away the arcthunder making it useless
Ebin.
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>>123864867

o it's np. i just refuse to play zard the 100% defensive/reactionary style you have to. so once you figure out my only approach option, i'm done with the character

tho i did SD on FD because it's horrendous for zard
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>>123864560
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>>123864273
>>123864560
That combo is really dumb
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>>123865039
>falkore.webm
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>>123865093
ok
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Would anyone like to play a few matches with me?
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>>123865093
Couldn't he do the same shit in Brawl
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Well?
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>>123865424
The leffens
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>>123865416
>not even the same up b
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>>123848410
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>>123865521
Probably thinking of Neutral B then or that song has affected my thoughts on MetaKnight
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>>123865424
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>>123865315
Yeah I'd love to smash you, hotness. ;)
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>>123865540
>TA off
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>>123864273
I don't know why people get so worked up over this when ZSS does the same thing but better
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>>123865716
Mario has it too
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>>123865315
are you a girl?
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>>123865716
I honestly don't get why people get worked up at all.
>>123865871
Mario's doesn't kill without really high rage or catching them on a platform.
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>>123865315
Are you still looking?
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>>123864273

>Losing to Borb
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>>123866087
No.

>>123866153
Yes I am!
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>>123866335
Host a room then, you added me a week ago I think.
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>>123865540

>TA Off
>Zelda not Up+Bing at the end, carrying them both up for the double KO
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>>123866335
Is something the matter?
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Good games, Nagalfar! I had a fun time playing against your Fox and Falco, they were both really good. It was difficult for me to keep up with them; I hope we can play again soon!
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>>123867732
Good games, Wozzler.
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>>123867732
GGs, I'm glad you had fun regardless.
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Massaging Wii Fit's feet after a workout!
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>>123867997
Are you aware that the moon grows full?
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>>123819749
Try to create pressure at home, go to every tournament you can and don't force tech you can't do under pressure if you feel you are.
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Why does Leffen play Melee in his kitchen? Swedish houses can't be that small.
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>still not december

FUCK
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>>123868543
>less than 24 hours until december
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>>123819979
0$
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Anyone still around making webms?
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>>123869168

I can make one for you if you need one, I suppose.
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>>123868543
>yfw the broadcast is on the 31st
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>>123869350
>It's December 2016
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>>123869350
>it announces Smash 5 for NX
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>>123869471
>smash 5 for mobile
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>>123869471
>now with even more dessert
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>>123869347
Neat. I'll send it before hosting dubs.
>>
>>123869471
>and Doctor Pit
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>>123861261
It's probably Ness 2bh
>>
>>123870909
Yeah good luck recovering.
>>
>>123864273
>>
So, December is the last Smash update?
Does this mean that this is the last chance for Nintendo to get a balance patch done right?
>>
>>123872209
No, it's the last smash-focused "direct".
>>
Help /ssbg/ im so bored with the Smash 4 roster, im starting to show interest in using Sonic. If I give you my address and write a letter saying that I let you, will you please kill me?

I fear the autism might take over and manifest into a physical form.
>>
>>123872465
You have to beat me in a FT5 first
>>
>>123872465
Just play le fast hedgehog of slowing down matches
>>
>>123872531
NNID?
>>
>>123872649
Wozzler, you host
>>
>>123872649
No. Local only.
>>
games?
>>
>>123872649
host
>>
>>123872685
ASL?
>>
>>123872743
18/m/ec
>>
>>123872639
But I can't. That would kill me inside to play as someone so fast and be so cheese.
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>>123872797
What does Extra Creditian sound like?
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>>123872961
no idea. EC is supposed to be east coast if that wasn't clear.
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Is there like, a standard monitor or TV to use with Smash? My TV has disgusting display lag, even in gaming mode. It's noticeably worse.
>>
>>123872814
>Actually giving a shit about what other people think of your main
>Falling for the respectable main meme
Everyone point at him and laugh
>>
>>123873107
What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
>>
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>>123873138
for smash4? hd
for thee others? crt
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>>123873163
No idea desu
>>
I wanna play smash 4 but I'm broke and don't own a wii u or 3ds. What do
>>
>>123873182
Well, for Smash 4, any monitors specifically?
>>
>>123873515
go to a tournament and steal one
>>
>>123873550
those benq monitors are pretty good in my opinion
>>
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Time for necromancy
Dubs?
>>
>>123873702
Awesome. I'll check 'em out. Thanks!
>>
Anyone wanna play?
>>
>leffen picking up marth for samus
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>>123869783

>Over an hour
>Still no dubs or replay
>>
>>123874672
DIdn't he always had a marth but never used him tourney or was that him just trying to figure out how to m2k's marth
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>>123858358
>>
>>123874814
>monsieur
>>
>>123874672
https://twitter.com/TSM_Leffen/status/671342239625388033

Fucking Samus players
>>
>>123874913
>le
>>
>>123874814

why do you tolerate carrrying kokonoe in dubs
>>
>>123875154
I don't carry anyone in dubs.
>>
>>123874678
>>123873869
Up for dubs.
>>
>>123875370
Also up for dubs.
Not 3DS though because fuck that.
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>>123858358
>>
>>123875334
you carry kokonoe
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>>123858358
>mfw
>>123875370
You'll have to go on without me, my man. Bracing for the apocalypse.
>>
>>123875702
would you get carried by pher
>>
>>123875702
I don't think that but why do you think so?
>>
>>123875759
how many are there in dubs now? Is there room for one more?
>>
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>>123858358
>>
>>123875784
koko is garbage
>>
>>123875857
gross
>>
>>123875761
Please kill yourself Kokonoe.
>>
>>123875897
no bully
>>
>>123875890
>ssbg's best rosalina
>>
>>123875435
>>123875370
>>123874678
Three, join them and that makes four
>>123875793
Have fun. Chronos, feel free to host in my stead. I'll join later.
>>123875857
Green Villager > Pink
>>
>>123875950
host then
>>
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>>123875857
That's not best girl
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>>123875964
>best rosalina
>best toon link
>best bowser jr

is there anything she can't do?
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>>123875890
Suit yourself.
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>>123875964
*only rosalina
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>>123875992
no

>>123875990
>>123875995
>>>>>>>implying
>>
>>123875990
I'm not Chronos though
>>123875370
Can you host?
>>
>>123876025
>best toon link
>best bowser jr
>Implying implications
>>
>>123876095
>no
Scared mother fucker.
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>>123876101
Hosting in a minute.
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>>123876263
maybe later
>>
>>123876095
I'm not implying, kekles. Uglier in everyway to the superior Mario Kart Villager and Green Villager.
>>
>>123876317
stop posting this you kek
>>
>>123876392
I thought the male village in MK was a girl
>>
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>>123876392
got me there
>>
>>123876025
>she
>>
>four days until Pokemon Picross
How hype are you?
>>
The NEW THREAD

>>123876690

>>123876690
>>
>>123876714
>9 posts early
go away
>>
>>123876775
Thread's gonna hit bump limit soon anyway
>>
>>123876682
>hype for something insignificant
>>
>>123876682

>hype for a pay to play/pay to win game
>>
>>123876831
the entire point is moving to a thread early means unless we finish this one off, that faggot will come back to bump it at page 9.
>>
>>123876968
And then it'll die shortly after anyway.
>>
>>123877075
There is no reason for two of the same thread on the board for 2-6 hours.
>>
>>123877162
And this one's gonna be gone soon.
>>
>>123877206
It is now. You may safely migrate.
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>>123877206
>soon

it will stay for another hour
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>>123858358
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>>123858358
>>
>page 10
Dead game.
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