/scg/ - Star Citizen General

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2nd for hotasses

I've just asked Steam to refund E:D, because it's boring as fuck. Hoping they don't mind too much that I tried to find the fun for 30 hours though. Is this a better investment?

>>123765913
>a batter investment
Yes. 2.0 Is looking really good, even in it's infancy.

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>>123765785
dude what

>>123765913
Get the cheapest game package and enjoy the game.

>>123765913
Yes, Instead of being trapped in Braben's broken, psychotic "vision" you'll be walking around in massive spaceships of your own!

There is a reason why all the /edg/ shitposters went back to /v/, they have nothing left to justify a general.

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>>123766745
Horizons will surely change all that!

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will there be female spacesuits like this in the verse?

>>123767863
looks a little problematic to me, chief

GTX 970; Y/N?
Asus or EVGA?

>>123768453
3.5

>>123768453
NO.

>>123768551
Aw.

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>>123767863
Something like this.

Except we'll get a genderneutral SJW-oriented hambeast-friendly 'female' model instead of one that might actually look like a woman, of course.

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Sad to know the Redeemer is bound to be nerfed hard when it's flight ready.

>>123768453
Wait for Pascal

>>123768730
Not really

>>123768731
Won't that be fucking expensive?

>>123768863
There's no way it's going to keep all of those guns. Even though they're mostly S2 and S1, that's still 9 forward facing weapons (the machinegun I think is S3).

>>123769008
Its mostly arbitrary numbers with no practical performance until its in-game.

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>123769369
Link to video?

Last I played, I had a spare Tigerstreik nose cannon, though I have an Avenger and an Aurora.
I know I bought a couple guns, but I was sure I didn't buy one. What can I do to be sure that it's spare and what can I do to sell it, if I do have a spare one?

>>123768884
The smart move right now is to wait for late 2016 for a new graphics card.

If you want to buy something in the next few months, get an i5 6600, a new main board and 16 GB of DDR4
Then you add an adequate next gen card next year, and you'll be able to at least play in 1440p with GSync or freeync (lolAMD, yeah I kn ow) or with an Oculus.

>>123769430
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/299909/i-get-so-sick-from-helmet-shaking/p1
all yours my friend

>>123769531
I already have an i5 2500k and 8gb DDR3.
I don't think it's that necessary for that upgrade yet.

>>123769645
Then buy some ships goy.

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Did they release any other pictures with clothing/uniforms concepts?

>>123769625
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=65&v=j_qAtqm4XUI

I don't think that's shaking from speed. I believe it's a bug with being far away from the center of the instance or something. I forgot what they called it.

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>>123770007
Except pic related of course.

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>>123770007
This is the only one anyone needs

>https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/300085/crucible-repair-times

>there are people who want to spend 30 - 60 minutes repairing a Hornet

The most badly damaged hornet should take no longer than 10 minutes from barely working to "fully" repaired. Less than that time to fix vital equipment so I can leave, so thrusters and jump drive and maybe landing gear. I can't imaging spending 30 minutes waiting for my ship to be fixed, nor 30 minutes fixing simply a fighter craft. That would also imply that a large would take significantly longer than 30 minutes. Fuck that.

>>123770568
30 minutes should be the time for an Idris/Javelin on the verge of exploding being fixed by crucibles.

>>123770007
>https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/173962/starcitizen-artwork-collection-updated-16-11-2014/p1

>>123770568
Did you read the quote

it said 30 minutes with a repair crew of one, meaning some chucklefuck jumping out of one machine, making a slight adjustment then moving onto the other, then repeating. Wasting loads of time.

Then 2-3 minutes for a full repair crew.

Thats fine.

>>123770568
You're forgetting that these times are meant for the final game, where losing your ship or dying would actually matter.

>>123770032
No I tested it, screen shakes if you are accelerating, no matter where you actually are, if you go slow it doesn't happen anymore. The problem is the game is so fucking retarded that when you reach your top velocity your engine still fires and your thrusters fire too to counter that acceleration of your main engine instead of it all just shutting off completely. You can see it in cruise mode pretty good, especially in a hornet. Main Thruster is firering and the smaller ones give counter thrust so you don't exceed your limit and probably because they are so retardedly designed keep you from spinning around.

Lads, what's the difference between the Star Citizen Starter kit and the Aurora MR AC starter? The Aurora MR AC one says "Includes everything you need to play Star Citizen today" But the contents both seem to be the exact same.

Also, I need a referall code. Can anyone pass me one?

>>123771764
STAR-NJ53-QJHZ

Its a defunct package from back when you needed to buy an AC pass, but that doesn't exist anymore.

So they're the same.

>>123771764
>what's the difference
None, it's exactly the same.

>I need a referall code. Can anyone pass me one?
Got your back, comrade. STAR-MQ7Q-5H6R

>>123765913
>>123766745
i payed 50 bucks for E:D aka "muh immersion empty sandbox grinding simulator"

for fucks sake man, im still mad about this fucking game

>>123768453
y
asus

>>123771764
URR- A - FGT - UUH - FKKN - NGGR

>>123768884
Not more expensive then maxwell.

>>123768884
Yes.
Just like how back in 2009 the GTX 280 was $300, then the GTX 480 was $600, then the GTX 580 was $900, then the GTX 680 was like $1200, and the 780 was about $1600 and the 980 $2300, so logically Pascal will be about $3000.
This is how the hardware market works. You fucking retard.

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>>123772930

>>123769645
>i5 2500k and 8gb DDR3.
Yeah.

That is hardware from 2011. I have the same setup, and it is good enough.

And I'm telling you, the i5 6500 or 6600,16 GB of DDR4 plus a new board is the correct step if you want a hardware upgrade right now.

Buying a graphics card now is retarded.
You can either get a 980, which is relatively expensive but still not enough to really game in 1440p (or 4k, or with a VR setup)
A 970, which equals trolling yourself.
One of the AMD cards, which equals trolling yourself even harder, but instead of paying for heating you can just turn on your PC now.
If you get an air-cooled model, you will also go deaf or have the card constantly throttle back because boy is that AMD reference cooler design shit.

Or you wait for 2016, and buy one of the upcoming cards with actually fast HBM, potentially better nVidida GPUs or non-shit cooler designs from AMD.

>>123773009
DDR4 doesn't make much of a difference in gaming

>>123773009
>a 980, which is relatively expensive but still not enough to really game in 1440p
lel what a retarded statement, a 980's performance is wasted on anything below 1440

>>123773009
If you actually knew anything, you'd tell him to get an i7-5775C or i5-5675C and keep his DDR3/eventually get better RAM.

Those two are the processors with the highest IPCs out there.

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Did anyone try to get a smaller ship under a connie/tally's shield? Can you shoot it while ignoring its shield once under it? Are you protected by the bigger ship's shields? Can you combine ships to get better shields?

>>123776201
this is relevant to my interests.
someone please test this, for science and all

>>123776201
>>123776383
I can only play more than 3 minutes if I use the solo hack so sorry no can do

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Due to finite HOTAS space, I've moved auxilary functions to an MFD.

anyone think of anything else to add?

Got landing, QD, IFF/Name broadcast, and ship lights covered. Thinking I might be forgetting something.

>>123769531
>Oculus
lol no, I'll never buy that one.

>>123777806
pic of your battlestation please.

>>123777909
I'm on some shitty desk due to moving soon, so I don't really have a battlestation. Just enough space to mount a few peripherals, not really worth taking a picture of.

>>123774654
>broadwell
>ever
No.

>>123778071
atleast tell me what app you are using for the MFD

>>123778167
Roccat PowerGrid, on a little 7" Chinkshit tablet

>>123778081
Nice argument.

Anyone have any video of somebody using the Merlin from inside the Constellation, if that is even possible on the PTU?

>>123778196
give me the profile

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>>123778648
I might share them when I'm done making them.

>>123779397
nice

>>123779397
fucking hell man,I have no idea how to create anything with PowerGrid that doesn't look like total shit, great fucking work.

>>123779397
excellent use of autism.

>>123779632
I haven't really looked at the alternatives yet, don't know if they're better.

Main problem is the lack of any feedback from SC itself. I made that screen to disable individual missile pylons so you can select what one you're firing, but if you die everything obviously gets thrown out of sync because the program doesn't actually know anything

>>123779747
Thanks, friend.

>>123779852
>Main problem is the lack of any feedback from SC itself.
Don't worry I'm sure they will hire some fucking mexican to create a app they can sell on the store later on :^)

>>123780065
>Implying they would allow such cheating mechanics as to be able to interact with the HUD/UI without looking at your groin-mounted MFD

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>>123768649
Looks fantastic space sluts is what this game needs.

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>>123768649
>wanting to be naked in space
I just hope we will have enough variety for non-eva clothes.

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Zero Suit Samus-style female spacesuit pls

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will there be space succubus in the verse?

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>>123782210
tfw no cute space waifu

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>going through salvage
>find this this

wut do?

>>123784339
this it

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>>123776201
Anyone?

>>123783174
It's not about being naked, it's just that this is what counterpressure skinsuits that are in development right now look.

There will of course be 'armor plate' like segments to pretoect the suit, in various sizes and forms.

But the basic suit is kept as light and tight as possible.

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>>123784751
Seems pretty tight to me and their approach is same armour for everyone, there will be tight spacesuits for sure but I don't think we will have skimpy unzipped tight suits like in the first picture.

>>123784339
Fuck-fuck the man-thing. FOR CLAN ESHIN!

>>123785237
Well, yeah.

The first pic is like some 1950s pulp-sci-fi babe in a latex-catsuit. Which is sexy, but doesn't belong in SC.

The other pics look a lot like what an evolved variant of the current skinsuit concepts might look.
Which can still look kinda sexy, and I think should belong in SC.

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>>123786885
We will see, I hope they'll release some character customization module during 2016 where we can check the different spacesuits and planetside clothes.

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>>123767863
>>123768649
>>123782210
>>123783174
>>123783691
>>123783904
>>123783961
>>123784339

Go back to your containment thread wiafu fags. Who let you cocksuckers out of /meg/ anyways?

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>>123788391
>being this mad about clothes in a video game

>>123789195
>>123787365
>>123785237
Is this all Star Citizen concept art? If so, hyyyype. That outlaw armor is sick. I hope there's something similar in-game.

Is Elite Dangerous worth playing? It's on sale for $15

>>123789905
>concept art
that's a literal model that is literally in the game right now

>>123790043
asdfasdfasdfsadfad

>>123789992
I dont't know, might wanna ask in their general :^)

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>>123789905
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX20bMC6vUw

You can see more in the galleries there. >>123770986

>>123789992
That's just the shell of the game, they're jewing the actual content in DLCs, $60 for the first one, that lets you land on planets.

>>123789195
>Outlaw Heavy
>Literally a fatass

didn't know thats what it was denoting

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L-lewd.

>>123789992
it's good for atmosphere but nothing else. if you can make your own fun you will enjoy it. if you need your hand to be held by a story then don't get it.

>>123789992
It's worth $15.

>>123793309
No it isn't.

Take your shilling to /edg/, not that they would think its worth $15, either.

>>123793465
>says game is worth 15 dollars
>shill

Back to /v/ with you, poorfaggot.

>>123793309
There's no content to warrant that, and their business model should keep you away from it.

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>>123789992
It's shit.

It's impressive at first: the exploration, the way your ship handles, the combat, etc

Then 2 hours in you realize you've experienced the whole game and are now expected to grind the same combat encounters/trade routes for dozens of hours before you can afford better ships.

>>123793569
>Poor
>Voting with your dollars against bad buisness practices
>"Poor"

Better go buy the deluxe edition of SW:Battlefront, because I'm not poor right XDDD

>$15
>price of literally a 1 hour movie or 1 cheap meal

elite has enough enjoyment and content for $15 give me a fucking break you entitled manchildren try getting a job that isnt at maccy ds

>>123794639
>YOU'RE POOR XDDD

>>123793850
E:D is fun enough for 15 fucking dollars you poorfaggot. SW:BF has nothing to do with this.

>>123794689
yeah, you are
and I feel sorry for you
do you need a meal ticket?

>>123789992
It's okay for 15 bucks, I bought it full price and was left disappointed by the lack of variety/content.

> $15 for the privilege of eating shit
baka desu senpai

>>123794753
stop projecting, it's pathetic

>>123789992
I think so. It's ok for when you're really bored and want something space-y to mess around with. Get it while it's cheap though. I find it impossible to justify spending more than 20 dollars on it, and even 15 is a stretch.

>>123789992
I thought about getting it as well, but 15 is too much for an empty game, and even more when you realize they're selling the rest of the actual game bit by bit, 60 dollars a bit.

I'll get it for that price when they include the rest.

> actually considering buying Elite:Dangerous
Rarely have I seen such a disgusting amount of grinding required for what is essentially a singleplayer game with some tacked on multiplayer elements.

>>123795482
*forced multiplayer elements
Remember they decided to remove the promised offline mode on the last minute.

>>123795482
What disgusted me the most is the linear ship progression.

You go for bigger ships, either specialized in hauling cargo or fighting. Small ships feel obsolete really fast once past the initial grind.

Just CCU'd my 325A to an M50. How did I do?

>>123795941
Congratulations on CCUing from a ship that was shit by design, to a ship that is getting nerfed with literally every patch

>>123795941
>Originfags

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>>123795645
This.
> Starter ship has shit for cargo, shit for jump range
> Only real option is bounty hunting till you can afford something better
> progress into either a hauler, or a better combat ship
> grind more, as in 10-20 hours more
> upgrade to next tier hauler or combat ship
> you could actually consider mining or exploration now, but it's definitely less profitable so after the novelty wears off you go back to grinding trade routes/combat
> do this for another fifty or so hours until you can afford your next big upgrade
> quit the game when you get to the 'best' ship because there's nothing fun to do with your pimped out fagboat

Avenger > any of the 300 series

>>123796115
Fuck, really? What are they nerfing about it?

>>123796710
The better question at this point in time is what they didn't nerf

protip: absolutely nothing

>>123795645
>>123796575
actually, i feel you senpai but i dont even see a point in getting a big ship, because now your maintenance prices go way up, also you cant fucking dock at every station anymore

i hate this the most, we have linear progression and on top of that there is not even a straight advantage to be in a bigger ship, itu just causes problems

>>123796758
Well shit, so basically the only ship worth upgrading to is the star child, the hornet?

>>123796580
for combat? yes

>>123797450
I'm just fucking with you, friendo. It got hit by the nerf bat pretty hard but it was pretty ridiculously OP to start out with. They may have gone too far but it'll probably even out.

Its not a better fighter than the 325a though, if you were looking to do that.

I wouldn't say the F7C is anything special. Its more of IM mode and gimbals that give it its power.

M50 will probably be good for speedy interdiction but not in a furball. Depends what you want to do.

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>starship brand you hate
Origin
>starship brand you love
RSI

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>>123797450
At that price range? There's no real replacement for the Hornet yet. If you're going for a Hornet, your best option is the Super Hornet, which is going to get some major competition from the Sabre, and already has competition from the Gladiator (which is a fucking stellar gun and missile platform).

The Gladius is currently the best in that range, as the package for the Gladius is slightly more expensive than an M50. The Hornet, though, is definitely at the top of the current fighter food chain due to its accessibility and armor.

>>123798229
>The Hornet, though, is definitely at the top of the current fighter food chain due to its accessibility and armor.

Nah

Its 100% gimbals being fucking broken as hell.

Ever fought a fixed guns Hornet user? Its like fighting a cripple.

>>123798229
>already has competition from the Gladiator (which is a fucking stellar gun and missile platform).

Except it flies like a fucking freighter.
While every ship got a buff in some way in 2.0 the Gladiator is still a lumbering whale.

Even dropping the S5s in the torp bay gives you a tiny boost.

Also the 'dynamic' speed isn't going to be dynamic forever, your speed will remain the same once you take off.

meaning once you drop the torps in a fight, you won't get any increased speed.

Enjoy flying a brick with subpar weapons loadout and an expensive gimmick.

>>123798104
Origin is definitely the most hated. They're a luxury-less luxury manufacturer. It's like buying a modern Cadillac and ending up with jump seats, metal furnishing, and a purely mechanical instrument panel.

I'm going to hate myself for this, but Aegis has the most ships that I'm looking forward to flying, so I'm going to have to go with Aegis as my most loved.

>>123798408
I put that under "accessibility," but it's my fault for not being specific. Gimbals make things stupid easy to hit, as long as your HUD doesn't vanish on you, which is currently a crap shoot.

>>123798941
>>Also the 'dynamic' speed isn't going to be dynamic forever, your speed will remain the same once you take off.

>meaning once you drop the torps in a fight, you won't get any increased speed.

That doesn't make any sense, anon.

You're telling me I lift off at full load and go 180m/s

Launch everything, go 180m/s

but as soon as I touch down, even if I don't change anything, I'll speed up?

yeah, nah.

>>123798229
The Gladius is actually cheaper than the M50 from the looks of things.

The Gladiator being competition for the Hornet is news to me though. Might consider it but that is already getting up there in terms of ships and I'm a progressfag. Maybe I should go back to my 325

>>123798104
The starfarer should get an upgrade to fuel 2 ships at once.

So was the Avenger nerfed or what did I miss?

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>>123799195
If you're trying to upgrade, yeah, the Gladius is $10 USD cheaper. The 325a will see a balance and update pass eventually, though, so it may turn into what we wanted it to be from the start. On the bright side, at least you didn't "upgrade" your 325a to a Cutlass, as I did. Pic related.

upgraded my p72 lti to a connie andro.

how dumb am I?

>>123799194
Did you miss the memo?
That's exactly right.

I'll try and find the post but a dev came in commented on it.
The speed caps will only change when you change loadout, not in-flight.
The only thing that changes in flight will be inertia and acceleration.

Speed caps will remain the same.
Don't ask me why.

>>123799609
I haven't actually applied the CCU yet so I guess I could always melt it for store credit if that's still possible

>>123799636
That's some upgrade...

>>123798104
>RSI only has 3 buyable base ships
>Consolidated Outland has 2
They need some love.

I would shit myself if RSI or Anvil made the new Corvette. Aegis and MISC have too many ships right now.

>>123799659
>The speed caps will only change when you change loadout, not in-flight.


https://youtu.be/dai5WBZwtD0?t=5m13s

Whatever you say, senpai

>>123800048
yes I know it works like that currently.
Did you read what I said?

It's being changed as that's how it's supposed to work.

>>123800142
[Citation required]

>>123799861
does that mean I'm only slightly retarded?

I've got plenty of disposable income, but this is the last dollar I'm giving to Chris Roberts untill there's a working game or it fizzles into abandonware.

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>>123800229
Here you go you giant cock sucking faggot.

Never challenge my posts again, cunt.

>>123800276
I'd laugh so hard if that was your only ship

>>123800379
Stupidest design decision I've read all day

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>>123799770
It's definitely still possible.
I don't know why they changed things so that the m50 no longer is the fastest thing around. You'd think the one thing it is supposed to do better than any other ship would remain the one thing it could do better than any other ship.

>>123799993
At least Anvil made the Crucible. Though a few more ships from the supposed current biggest military contractor wouldn't go amiss. At the same time, every single ship Anvil has made has been a standout success, while RSI can't say the same thing currently.

How about one from each? Give a little choice on the matter to the average citizen, as if two new corvettes is ever going to happen.

>>123800276
I have tens of thousands to spare, but I didn't get more than an Aurora, why do you guys blow your money on crap the moment you get it...

>>123800379
Cunt cunt CUNT

>>123800497
Almost. Got that and the LN package. Two of my best IRL firends are ingame too. Investing in some quality bro time.
>>123800590
I regret my decision, but there's no looking back now

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>2 weeks

>>123800895
Well, I hope it ends up being a fun ship for coop.

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Speaking of Corvettes, what's your Ideal Corvette /scg/?

>about 130m long so that it's relatively nimble
>Turrets with S3 guns
>main STS turret. Smallest of its type.
>large missiles
>ability to refuel a few larger fighters (not as good as Starfarer, but enough to allow escorts to follow along for a while)
>ability to distribute some ammo
>modular rooms

In SC I envision corvettes to be the main ship of many large battlegroups for organizations, so I want them to be self sufficient in that they can bring fighters along, since it won't have a hangar like the Idris when they only need to land to get fuel/ammo. Maybe the corvette can have a fold-out landing pad for this stuff?

>>123799993
>Consolidated Outland has 2
Which ones? They only have the mustang IIRC.

Can you outfit the F7C until it's an F7M or is that impossible? How does the former do in AC at the moment?

>>123801295
F7C-M

and no, you can never have the dual seat or higher powerplant size.

I have 60 bucks in credit, what should I get? I like the 315p for exploration, but the Avenger looks more suited for combat.

>>123801176
The biggest things a Corvette has to do is carry one to two fighters, perhaps docked in a similar way to the Merlin on the Constellation, and be absolutely coated in anti-fighter defenses, perhaps with a torpedo bay for anti-capital usage. The main purpose of the corvette should be fighter cover for larger ships, however.

Modularity is also important, for instance, in turning what used to be turrets into missile and torpedo bays or fighter prep and refueling stations into cargo bays, so you can customize the ship into relevance no matter the mission. Hell, if I wanted to I could start working on floor plans right now, but I doubt anything would come of it except some moderately good theory crafting time in here.

So Derek Smart died 20 minutes ago. Had heart palpitations, came in to the hospital and when asked to wait, he had a stroke right at the desk. Too much hemorrhaging before they even got him on the table, nothing we could do. If you have a package with Line of Defense, I suggest a refund.

>>123801862
Who?

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>>123801176

165 meters long

4x S5 Manned Turrets

1x Torpedo Tube (ala Javelin)

2x Size 5 Missile Hardpoints

Small hangar built straight into a rear cargo bay capable of holding and maintaining a single ship up to the size of a Redeemer. Bigger ship equates less cargo space.

A Medbay, a Brig, and an Armory.

Oh, and the ability to use it as a Space U-Boat.

>>123801843
>carrying fighters
No. That was once the idris, and look what happened. This is why I had the idea of giving it the ability to distribute some ammo and fuel instead of having ships land. Maybe, if it HAD to have a hangar, it can hold a squadron of Merlins since those are small as fuck. But a hangar large enough to hold normal fighters would be too much, and it already happened to the Idris turning it into a frigate and gaining more than a hundred meters in length.

>floor plans
If you know how to 3D model there's modding section on the RSI forums where you can post your stuff and add progress. It's pretty cool there.

>>123802250
I agree with everything, except the hangar. I'm really anti large hangar because of the Idris.

>dropping off tons of hired mercs led by a few real charcters into a pirate controlled gold horizon station

>silently hunting another Corvette or other ship
moist already.

>>123799636
That was pretty dumb tbqh

>>123802545

>I agree with everything, except the hangar. I'm really anti large hangar because of the Idris.

I know what you mean. Redeemer might be a little too big now that I think about it. Smaller craft like an Argo would be nice. A Prowler would fit very nicely with a U-Boat theme but I have no idea how big it's supposed to be.

>>123802849
>>123802250

>cargo bay area doubles as hangar that can hold 4 Merlins and an Argo
>more ships = less cargo

Can't honestly disagree with this.

>>123800379
whats the hell? they waste over a year on developing a system that allows to dynamically calculate acceleration based in the mass and the top Speed as a function of that and just throw it out of the window now?

>see "Call for Crusaders"
>DEUS VULT MOTHERFUCKERS
>lame ass security thing for the crusader system

I want to go on a space crusade against alien scum.

>>123802545
>Maybe, if it HAD to have a hangar, it can hold a squadron of Merlins since those are small as fuck.
Kruger Intergalaktische Corvette Albion (to keep the theme set by Merlin and Archimedis) with Docks for 4 P52s
>muh dick

>>123804060
Lore: Kruger Intergalaktische received the contract for the Corvette after aegis failed to deliver and instead concepted a frigate and no one else was able to.

>snub fighter docks
>fighter hangers

I want this meme to die, not every large ship needs to have fucking gimmicks.

>>123804650
You don't understand anon, everything bigger than a Cutlass MUST be a carrier!

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>>123803712

Ah, greetings fellow Hunter. We shall join in battle against the Space Pira-err I mean the Vanduul for the glory of the Federa-fuck I mean the Empire.

>>123804060
>>123804410

Personally I'm partial to the idea of a Esperia-made Corvette based off of a sneaky Tevarin Hunter Killer ship.

>>123804650

You do realize that contemporary Corvettes hold helicopters, right?

>>123804863
There's a difference between having a utility craft strapped to the side of the hull and having a hanger bay full of shitty snub fighters.

>>123804650
>hangers

>>123805054
>hanger
:)

>>123805062
>>123805210
This meme can die while we're at it too.

>>123805368
orthography is not a meme, you dimwit

i went back and just watched a couple ship videos on YT

the gladiator needs a serious redesign, this thing is so unremarkable its not even funny

also the freelancer needs another pass

did they ever mention reworking the aurora or is it done?

>>123805690
Gladiator is great, but thanks for your youtuber-tier opinions

>>123805690
Every ship will be touched up at one point.

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>>123805690

>the gladiator needs a serious redesign

Not really, the Gladiator is one of the better ships.

>also the freelancer needs another pass

See pic.

>did they ever mention reworking the aurora or is it done?

Every single ship is getting another pass.

>>123805690
>the gladiator needs a serious redesign

I totally agree

It was designed before they got the Anvil style guide done
It's stuck in some limbo between Anvil and Aegis
They really should remove the chair lift shit, it's an annoying fucking Aegis gimmick

>>123805910
feature creeeep

>>123805786
>>123805910
sure i might have shit opionions, but the shape and look just are : unremarkable

if you think about the gladius, the hornet, or any other fighter you have a quick image in your mind

the gladiator is just some weird distorted hornet fuck

anyway i just wanted to write down my thoughts thats all, love you guys

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Why don't CIG just design good ships, instead of going back 4 times to fix each one?

>>123806538

Probably because the original ships are just hangar models that were built long before component and weapon sizes were determined, and they all need to be built from the ground up to be able to fly and hold all the shit like shield generators and power sources.

You do realize that items in this game have mass and take up space right? As in, the shield generator isn't an invisible value attached to a menu list. It's an actual object in the ship that needs power from a generator? The same goes with weapons, life support, etc. Then there's the fact everything needs to re-done in order to facilitate the recently finalized damage/repair model.

Basically the short answer to your question is that you're a memester from /v/ that needs to shut the hell up.

>>123806874
not him but:
>the shield generator isn't an invisible value attached to a menu list

its not?
i knew that the thrusters are actually a functioning part of the ship but i thought that was about it

>>123807359
You can see your shield generator on more than a few ships. Its mounted particularly obviously on the Cutlass.

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>>123807359

Yup, all that shit's mounted internally and requires power, cooling, etc. in order to function.

>>123808096

You have difficulty understanding context, don't you?

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>>123808096

>>123808096
>yfw vederation false flags an accusation of false flagging

>>123806097
>>123805690

Gladiator should have be slightly longer than the hornet and almost as wide wing-tip to wing-tip. The gunner should sit behind and slightly above the pilot and use an all-in-one console to control missiles, engineering shit and a remote turret. Behind the gunner should be a tiny space for personal storage and avionics.

The central core of the ship should be two modular slots, one thin one on top and one human-height space beneath.

Lower module options:
- Torpedo bay
- Cargo hold w/ lift
- Living quarters
- Probe bay (or maybe just load these as torpedoes)

Upper module options:
- Remote turret
- EWAR suite
- Tractor beam turret w/ hatch to cargo area

Wings would have quite large, multi-purpose mounts for missiles, sensors and fuel pods. It would have two gimballed S2 guns on the front mounted similar to the Hornet nose turret.

I don't mind the overall style but it's too small and the bubble turret looks fucking retarded.

Now that they have finally accepted that remote turrets are fine, they need to change that back at the very least.

>>123808573
>>Gladiator should have be slightly longer than the hornet and almost as wide wing-tip to wing-tip.

Have you ever seen either ship

>>123806874
>Probably because the original ships are just hangar models that were built long before component and weapon sizes were determined, and they all need to be built from the ground up to be able to fly and hold all the shit like shield generators and power sources.
What kind of absolute madman would design ships without knowing those sizes then?

>>123798104
>starship brand you hate
Origin
Consolidated Outland (although the beta van is nice, too many things to dislike about the mustang)
>starship brand you love
Kruger Intergalactic
Musashi
RSI

>>123809881
That kind of man that wants to finance his dream by selling JPEGs?

>>123809881

>What kind of absolute madman would design ships without knowing those sizes then?

The kind that promised a hangar module where players can walk around and in their ship. If you look back at the release history of the game you'll see a progression from a module-based system to an incrementally updated system. Back in the kickstarter days, and for a couple years after, the game was set to release in modules that would be combined to form the full game. Fast forward a bit and CIG realized this is extremely impractical. Now modules (and the alpha access system based on them) have been abolished and we're moving to a tiny section of the full game and building the rest of the game around it instead.

One of the biggest drawbacks of doing something nobody has ever done before is bumblefucking your way through it until you know what you're doing.

>>123810293
>CIG realized this is extremely impractical.

This.

I have no idea how they expected to release the social module so early on without doing the bulk of the work for FPS or even the PU.

>>123810449
I think the idea at the beginning was to get some money and rip some investors off while not actually developing a real game but then it got so much money and media attention that pocketing some millions and just be forgotten like any other kickstarter project was out of the question and they had to start developing an actual game because the backlash for Chris would have been too big. Would explain why literally nothing happened the first year, they weren't expecting they actually had to develop anything.

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So I'm trying to come up with a proper sizing of Corvettes, and I keep landing on the thought that we already have three corvette sized ships: the 890 Jump, the Reclaimer, and the Carrack. The Carrack, however, is the only ship that fits the mold of what a corvette, in a Chris Roberts game, should be. A militarized variant with the drones replaced with missile bays and the lower module slots replaced with hardened turret sections would fit the purpose without having to create a whole new ship around replacing the Idris. This would also give CIG the time to make the frigate that would be in-lore replacing the Idris without worrying about a new corvette to replace the now bloated Idris'.

I wonder if they're getting the same idea?

>>123811321
>I'm trying to come up with a proper sizing of Corvettes
Why?
>theorycrafting

>>123811321
>taking an existing ship instead of selling an additional new JPEG to some Furry Org

>>123810973

>I think the idea at the beginning was to get some money and rip some investors off

Maybe you're not aware of this, but Chris Roberts had a decade-long career in movie production. He's not poor and he has money without the need to swindle anyone.

The original plan was for a game on a much smaller scale. In fact, the original plan was to use a million dollars or so to build a prototype that they could present to a publisher. However, the crowdfunding campaign was drawing in so much cash that they just decided to switch to a fully crowdfunded model.

This meant that they basically had to build their own development studio from the ground up. The first two years of this game's development were spent building a game development company literally from the ground up and trying to rig CryEngine to actually work the way they want it to.

Today, there's multiple studios in multiple countries. CIG Santa Monica, CIG Austin, Foundry 42 Wilmslow, and Foundry 42 Frankfurt. The purpose of having teams all over the world is twofold: One, tax benefits. Two, creating the infrastructure necessary to run a world-wide persistent universe as well as a data delivery system to keep it running.

From the outside the development of this game seems disturbingly quiet and uneventful. From a business perspective the entire thing has been both extremely challenging, and extremely successful. The fact that CIG and Roberts have gotten this far is quite impressive considering how many hurdles had to be jumped.

>>123811882
Alright Ben

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>>123811553
What? Theorycrafting is a good time, unless you're one of those types that hates any and all enjoyment of a thing you don't like.

>>123811559
>Selling a militarized variant of a preexisting ship
Surely they won't follow up on the success of the Starfarer Gemini with another ship that people already really like in a similar vein, for a flat upgrade in price, too.

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>>123812309

I'm not Ben but I am one of the ten people autistic enough to have kept up with almost everything about CIG and this game.

>>123811321

A Carrack-corvette would be a little small, and would need a hell of a lot more firepower. And it would need at least double the current crew, and add the facilities for them.

- Split rover/cargo bay into thirds: one third missile bay, one third docking collar, one third cargo
- Swap scout ship hangar for vertical missile launch cells (hnnng)
- Add turrets to the lower nose and upper rear
- Make all turrets remote turrets with 2x S3/S4 guns and 8x S2/S3 missiles
- Replace big sensor masts with smaller, better protected sensors
- Add a couple of those automatic CIWS turrets we've heard about

This would make the Carrack-corvette absolutely terrifying for fighters. It would be a nice little patrol ship.

How much grind will there be to get better ships? Will I have to spend 3 lifetimes grinding in my Mustang Alpha in order to get a Mustang Beta?

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>Pocket ships: X85, M50, Merlin
>single seat "fighters": Aurora to 300i
>etc...
Is there any commonly accepted classification for the ship sizes by the community yet?

How do you call the Constellation's category? Or the size between the single seat "fighters" and the constellation?

>>123813461
we dont know
but i think it wont be as bad as E:D

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>>123813134
Yeah, it wouldn't take much thinking to make the Carrack a beast of a picket ship. We're not sure about how the interior is laid out currently, so there could be a lot more space available for crew than is needed, and so can be tweaked to fit more people. We know there's a machine shop/drone repair station and a medical bay in the main body of the ship. The machine shop could easily be replaced with additional crew space, with the drone launchers replaced with torpedo launchers or missile bays.

I agree, the thing would be an absolute menace to fighters militarized like that.

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>>123813461
>How much grind will there be to get better ships?
Those $750-$2,500 ships will be quite easy to get huh?

>>123814105
You guys are almost as bad as fucking Phoenix owners that think their VIP transport is an Andromeda+

>>123813461

Unfortunately nobody can really answer your question at this point. The in-game economy relies on a modeled simulation of NPCs interacting with the game world alongside the players. There's simply no economy or progression to speak of at the moment outside of Rental Equipment Credits. I wouldn't expect switching between variants to be terribly expensive.

>>123814486

I'll take Carrack owners over 890J cunts that think a Corvette should cost $800 any day.

>>123814258
No.

But the original idea was that the hull as such should be rather cheap, and the difficult part should be equipping your ship with the subsystems you need to really perform.

Which is why everyone who bought an Idris will probably shit a brick when he has to farm the hull's worth of ingame credits to just equip it properly.

>>123814258
>>123814581

Depends on whether CIG offers the ability to get in-game loans like in the Orion mini-game. Upgrading your ship and paying interest on your debt until you collect enough money to pay off the debt completely would be a neat way for players to get new ships fast while risking their character's reputation among financial organizations or loan sharks.

Well, that or you could just steal a ship you want.

>>123814821
>Well, that or you could just steal a ship you want.

Kind of brings a whole other set of issues that may overcome just legitimately buying something, but sure

>>123814486
I own one of those party buses, too. Still has more cargo than a Freelancer.

>>123814105

It doesn't really make sense for Anvil, the new kid on the block who is snatching up military contracts, to develop a highly advanced corvette-sized ship and retail it to the civilian explorer market.

>>123814486

The Carrack is very clearly not a corvette, but it's the right size, with the right tech level, the right manufacturer and roughly the right layout. Ships will be modular, ships will cover multiple roles with these modules.

I would most like to see this as a military-only thing like the F8.

After-market addons to a civilian Carrack would let you do the same role, but not as well as the military version.

i just got me a LTI supreme gentleman's hornet. but fuck i hate having two amd packages on my account. you can't fucking melt them for their actual value. .

>>123814943
You have no idea how much cargo a Freelancer holds, theorycrafter.

>>123815010

>I would most like to see this as a military-only thing like the F8.

I think the community would riot if that were the case. There's so many people salivating over the Corvette despite the fact we don't know anything about it other than its name. It's crazy.

>>123814554
>I'll take Carrack owners over 890J cunts that think a Corvette should cost $800 any day.
So much this.

At least the Carrack has an actual purpose. 890s will just end up as some fat neckbeard's creepy rape dungeon for his android space waifu, anyway.


What a combat-orietned corvette needs is some sort of docking platform that allows a fighter to 'land' on the hull to refuel and resupply.
So no internal hangar, which means docking like this this under fire would probably be very danerous, but it would allow the corvette to take one (or two) fighters along.

I doubt the Carrack would be able to do this, but some kind of ship of roughly that size should be able to have two such 'doking platforms' or whatever you want to call them.
Or maybe this is the worst idea ever, and I am worse than Hitler for posting this here.

This game looks fun as fuck but when I look at the ship's they're like hundreds of dollars, is it viable to play this game and not spend real money outside of the starter pack? Or will I just get btfo by people who drop thousands of dollars?

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>>123815930
Aurora poorfag master race here, you are fine.

>>123815930
Currently you can get almost everything in game purely through PvE or even racing, so no. You won't get shit on by wallet warriors.

Just grab something viable and then go into PvP.

>>123815930

> is it viable to play this game and not spend real money outside of the starter pack?

It's viable insofar as you can play the game. Most of the bigger ships and more expensive ships aren't implemented yet, but neither is the in-game economy. Small cheap starter ships that come with the game packages aren't worth much in a PvP fight. When the game gets closer to release we'll be able to earn United Earth Credits and purchase in-game ships with in-game money.

>>123815212

From a balance perspective getting the corvette right is crucial, for a couple of reasons.

Firstly a corvette, because of its size, can be seen as the biggest "multi-crew" ship or the smallest "capital" ship. This is really the interface between small-ish and large-ish, civilian and military.

Second, because of the anti-fighter role we can expect from a corvette it represents a very high level of threat to a fairly large group of players at once. This makes them the core ship for conflict between large organisations of players: operations would be based around either fighters protecting a corvette or corvettes protecting something larger.

>>123815648

The Carrack has a landing bay on the top for a light scout craft. By making it external they could significantly boost the size of the ship allowed.

>>123815930

If you don't like any of the starter options then have a look at the Avenger package. It's a competitive fighter with some cargo space and decent speed.

But not all of SC is about combat. It should be perfectly viable to do safer things in your Aurora until you have the funds to buy a dedicated fighter.

>>123803512
Welcome to CIG game design.

Spend years on a dynamic system, then just limit everything arbitrarily when a lesser pricepoint ship gets an emergent advantage

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>Connies and Tallys getting btfo in the PTU

P 2 W
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>>123815930
Basically a bunch of people gave CR $100,000,000 by paying to win. Their rationale was "but you can grind it in game" and "what is winning exactly?".

You will never ever be able to beat someone who paid $2,500 for a Javelin destroyer, with a shield generator the size of a warehouse and 25 NPC crew members on dual gun turret mounts, costing approximately $18 each.

You will have a shitty brick-looking starter ship that can get 1-hit by a large capital ship weapon, and will not even be able to wear down their shield sitting in the same place for hours recharging your weapons.

You'll either have to grind for months/years to get a ship that big, and then insure it and hire people to help you run it. Or find an in-game organization and help them get their own Javelin. Or just move on to another game.

>>123816192
>>123816173
>>123816221
>>123816306
Thanks boys

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hello /scg/, im from /edg/ and id like to request a small section of your thread be given to us in the name of welfare
9/10 ED players are on the verge of suicide and will submit to your dick RIGHT NOW if you give them a place to post

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>>123816695
ne my guest

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>>123816605
>You will have a shitty brick-looking starter ship that can get 1-hit by a large capital ship weapon, and will not even be able to wear down their shield sitting in the same place for hours recharging your weapons.
A-WING!
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>>123816695
At least you guys have a game. We have lies, jpg ships and technical difficulties.

>>123813638
It's likely to be dramatically worse.

The Connie is supposed to be like ED's cobra mk3, the signature ship.

Cobra takes under 8 hours to acquire. Chris has estimated a "dedicated week" for the Connie. That's probably about 40h

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>>123816173

The LN is pretty great, in all honesty. Was better before hornetfags complained about a $35 ship having 4xS2 mounts and two of them got downgraded to S1, but eh, whiners gonna whine I guess.

Still though, it can run cargo, it can defend itself, it's got missiles and the ability to mount a Size 3 shield, it's pretty much the most well rounded "starter" ship available.

Being the best poorfag ship in the game is kinda like being the tallest midget on the basketball team, but still, it'll get the job done and more than likely keep your spaceass in one piece until you save enough shekels to grab something bigger.

>>123816695
go die braben, i hate you

Have any of you guys done the singleplayer 2.0 thing yet that was on rebbit?

How long does it take? I'm thinking about giving it a shot.

>>123816880
Fuck off Derek

>>123816695
>hello /scg/, im from /edg/

You can't be from nothing, anon.

>>123817159
What about the Mustangs? Are they good for anything?

I know the Beta is the comfiest ship at least.

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>>123816880
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcjpags7JT8

>>123817159
>Was better before hornetfags complained about a $35 ship having 4xS2 mounts and two of them got downgraded to S1, but eh, whiners gonna whine I guess.


All ships got a downgrade of weapon sizes.

Hornet got a weapon downgrade.

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>>123817112
I don't have any problem if the grind is worse, the progression isn't linear there is no end game ship, of course you can say that a Javelin is the ship ending all ships but there is a lot of stuff you will not be able to do with it.

Hell, a player could start with a Connie and decide to go for a Freelancer if they wanted because it's not the same ship at all.

>>123816695

We could always use a break from star citizen shitposting and see a bit of ED shitposting. Feel free I guess.

>>123817710
Why bother?

38k OG backer here, I CTD just loading the speesh station with the common as fuck i5 and meme card. 2.0 is a very buggy mess

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>>123818063
The mustangs are terribly fun to fly, the only thing is that it's hard to pick between the Beta and the Delta for me.

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>>123818516
>38k OG backer
Someone please tell me that doesn't meant $38,000.

>>123818857
Probably Citizen number, weeb.

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>>123776201
anyone with a PTU account able to test that?

>>123818176
>Hornet got a weapon downgrade.
What?

Other than replacing with F7A mil loaner with the 7C hornetfags actually bought, it hasn't been nerfed.

Hell, it's been buffed relatively speaking, it was supposed to be more agile, smaller, and less armed than the avenger it replaced in UEE. Now it's A LOT bigger and fits far bigger guns than it was meant to

>>123818857
oh it probably does.
>>123818516
You have an AMD? hue.
https://twitter.com/AMDRadeon/status/671058196547706880

>>123819052
No, the 3.5memecard

>>123819003
>Other than replacing with F7A mil loaner with the 7C hornetfags actually bought, it hasn't been nerfed.

Neutron guns got removed, wing guns got lowered a size. They said they nerfed it.

Unless you're thinking the F7A has upsized guns and the cannons included.

>>123814258
Probably easier to get than $2500 is for the average Star Shitizen.

>>123818063

I have an Omega and it's fun as shit to fly. Every time someone tries to shoot at me in AC I just hit them a few times with my shitty M3As and then zoom into the asteroids, dodging rocks like crazy.

Usually they'll follow me and at least half the time a few seconds later I'll see "X has died" because they plowed right into an asteroid and exploded.

>>123818516

The solo version doesn't crash like the live one does because it doesn't connect to SIG's servers. You're essentially just replacing Broken Moon with the 2.0 map and starting a freeflight with different rules.

>>123817710
It's pretty easy to set up. Obviously you have to download the PTU if you haven't. It works like a charm, though.

>Starfarer
>Caterpillar
>BIRC Merchantman
>Karthu-Al
I feel bad for anyone owning these ships.

>>123777894
>not wanting the future of gaming

easy to say when youve never touched one

>>123819503
Why

that Caterpillar segment looked great

>>123819503
>i have shit taste
i bet you own a hornet and think itll be useful in the PU too

post derek smart crazies, i wanna do a compilation

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>>123819798
>>123819602
I don't feel bad about your tastes but about the wait.

>>123820019
well khartus getting worked on now, we saw that in the ship shape about the connie

>>123819469

Cool, downloading now. Will report back I guess.

I just want to know how 2.0 is going to run on my old rig.

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GREETINGS SCG.

I have come here to suggest that the Corvette, or A Corvette at least, needs to be made by Drake Interplanetary and needs to be designed as as a Mothership for Search and rescue operation, without actually being a carrier of any sort, as In no capacity to carry fighters internally.

What it should have instead is a whole bunch(say 6) modular bays that can be swapped fairly easily between any number of things such as: Torpedo tubes, More Dakka, More cargo space, External Landing pads for fighters up to cutlass size, or a bay that cocoons a Launch/Shuttle/Boarding Craft. or whatever other "upgrades could be though of to slot into a relatively small standardized space.

Said corvette should be about 150 meters long, 60 meters wide, and 35 meters tall and vaguely resemble the bastard child of pic related.

Further more it should have docking clamps on either its ass so that three or more of said corvettes can join themselves at the ass to form an ad-hoc base putting their vulnerable asses together for protection and shifting shields forward and to the sides. They shouls have Minimall functional crawlers legs akin the the AT-TE so they can accomplish this ground side as well.

Just fuck my idea up Senpai.

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>three or more of said corvettes can join themselves at the ass to form an ad-hoc base putting their vulnerable asses together for protection and shifting shields forward and to the sides. They shouls have Minimall functional crawlers legs akin the the AT-TE so they can accomplish this ground side as well.

that is some ridiculous shit

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>>123816695

I stopped playing shortly before the Wing update and now with the steam sale my friends are trying to figure out how to exit and enter stations. What VISION has been added since? Is there shit to do with actual people now that combat is no longer 1 on 1?

>>123821851
Not that anon, but I used to 'play' E:D now and then.

Short answer? not really.

Unless you want to spend $60 on DLC

>>123821851
literally nothing has changed, and the base game will never recieve any more major changes, mark my words

after the retard fanbase gobbled up the horizons season pass preorder for 60$ scam frontier now has literally 0 reason to add things to the base game when they can put them in a season pass

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>>123822056
>>123822062

Fuck everything.

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>>123820705
Sounds OK.

Except that docking and leg part, that is extreme faggotry.

>>123817112
the hope is that playing the game is more fun so the time between upgrades doesn't feel like a totally horrific grind.

How much longer will the PTU be up?

I got an invite but don't own the game. About to buy it if I'll be able to play PTU for at least a couple weeks.

>>123825759
what

>>123825853

I got an invite but don't own the game. About to buy it if I'll be able to play PTU for at least a couple weeks.

>>123825961
thats odd
not sure how long the PTU will be up for, lets say another week, maybe two, a month max?

but once the PTU is done the patch will go live so what does it matter how long the PTU will be online for

>>123826156

Oh ok. I wasn't sure how it all works I don't follow the game really but I play AC whenever it's free.

>>123826578
Just get a cheap package now and get it over with. It can sit for years and you'd have access to whatever is available, and it all looks cool as fuck as far as I'm concerned. The more the merrier.

when does the sale end? tomorrow?

>>123827017

Seriously. The cheapest package is only $45, and you get Star Citizen, Squadron 42, and a ship to fuck around with. Beats spending $60 when the game launches.

You can choose between the Aurora MR and the Mustang Alpha, both of which are definitley entry-level ships, but they're still fun to fly around in.

What's the story with being able to unmelt melted packages? Is that still a thing we'll be able to do in the future?

I've bought a few LTI Archimedes and waited 24 hours and melted/rebought them with the credit just in case. I figure if I wanted a ship in the future I could unmelt one of the LTI Archimedes and then CCU it to whatever ship I wanted and keep LTI.

>>123828060
Or you could just buy them in game.

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>>123819215
>luring shitters into the minefield
the true hard counter for double hornets and badiators.

>Got into the PTU
>Didn't see the email till now

what did I miss out on?

>>123828683
jesus full throttle into the rocks.
crash roberts scrublord.

>>123829012
Ruining the life of Constellation owners, then crashing.

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>>123829061
not all hornet pilots are bad, but all the worst pilots are in hornets.

>>123828683
this kinda shit is exactly why i want the khartu
kill people without having to lay a finger on them

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>tfw ptu crashes after loading

>>123833602
Aye fucking tell me about it, I haven't been able to get onto a PTU universe room since last patch.

>>123832863
It's like you hate content.

>>123834230
>your group
Nice try. Not a mention of any orgs and you bring them up just to start a shit flinging contest. You're the reason /scg/ is shit.

>>123834616
No you newfaggot. Webms were made by regular people, and just to shitpost some put large kong logos in the corner so that everyone would lose their shit. The same with the other orgs. Fuck off.

>>123838070
Maybe you're just a garbage poster.

>>123827515
Tues. It got extended:

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/300242

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>>123840156
is this like a some sort of deal that you need to grab?

>>123840480
Some ships are only made available at this time so it's not a discount sale. (Except for the starter packs)

>>123841180
so you could call it a grab deal?

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>>123841864

>>123841864

No you could call it an Anniversary Sale.

>>123841864
i like your memes

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>>123844673
Only the dank memes.

>>123816695

>/edg/

You mean that thing that DOESNT EXIST?

Seriously, what gives?

>>123846354
From what I understand egd didn't have enough content to sustain itself. Not even enough content for shitposting. With 2.0 we can a least have some discussion about star citizen. Elite doesn't even have excitement over the new dlc horizons.

https://www.revivalgame.com

So this looks interesting.

>>123846354
>>123847380
Can you tell me when the release date for SC is again?
I plan to buy it. using E:D to fill a void.

>>123847562
>using E:D to fill a void
Using a void to fill a void is just going to make a bigger void

>>123847562
The release date is somewhat of a "sore" point, really. It's been used as trolling for as long as /scg/ has been a thing, if my memory's right. It also depends on whether you mean Star Citizen or Squadron 42. Current estimates point to late 2016 to early 2017 for Star Citizen, with some people throwing in their lot to 2018.

The current baby PU is a massive step forward, even with all the crashing and balance issues. We're finally seeing something resembling a shadow of the persistent universe.

>>123847452

>Illfonic

>>123847718
no bully anon im desperate. ED is fun though OPEN world you'll never run into anyone ever.
>>123847857
So it alright to say the next game I'll touch on is No man's Sky before this

>>123847879
Yeah, I know, but damn if that game doesn't seem awesome.

It also seems that they were paying attention to what CIG was doing. There's absolutely a market for MMOs that have in depth mechanics for non-combat roles and skill based combat that doesn't rely on gear. The magic system looks pretty intricate as well. Plus, you know, Cthulu and shit.

>>123847452
Looks like they learned something from CIG. Specifically their business model.

>>123848173
The open world would be less of an issue if all players played together but they don't

They went to all the trouble of making a multiplayer game, then gave people the option to opt out of the multiplayer part

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>>123841864
>grab deal

Hows my line up:

Sabre
Herald
Orion

Reminder that people have, and are proud of, spending literally hundreds of hours practicing in AC

using a flight model that entirely changed with 2.0

using a damage model that is getting replaced

in an arena mode not representative of PU combat

lacking most of the game's mechanics

and this makes them think that they will be good at the game at launch

>>123799993

>>123801246
2nding this, I thought Consolidated Outland was only the producer of the Mustang.

I don't even know what their 'theme' is, fragile, cheap, non-RSI fighter, is pretty much where they're at right now.

Does anyone know if there are any more planned ships for CO? If so, what are their expected roles / design considerations if any?

>>123851872
>Sabre
OK
>Herald
objectively bad taste
>Orion
cool, but way too expensive

So should I keep my Avenger Stalker or melt it and get a 325A or 315P?

>>123852142
Don't forget fast.

>>123798104
I want more RSI ships. It's how space should look.

too many faggy jet fighters in space

>>123852939
You, I like you