/rlg/ - Roguelike General

Haha, I made it in the OP even if I died!

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>Foodshop at XL11

aw yiss

>>123657715
>reposting ye olde screenshotte

>Gastronok, Maurice, Erlocha, Joseph on single floor

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cue laugh track

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>>123657683
Remember six gorillion goyim.

>>123657715
Looking at that ogre defensive stack made me laugh

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>>123657781

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>>123657379
>PWMangband.
the fuck is THAT

>multiplayer angband

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>>123657813
yes, gib more uniques
fuck

>>123657876
>all those shields of ignorance

>>123657893
>multiplayer angband
how does that even work?

Can I disarm traps in DCSS?

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>>123658093
Not anymore!

>>123658239
kek, ok

>>123658093

Yes by walking right into them

So I tried PWMangband
first off there was nobody in all the six servers
second when I tried to connect the game crashed

I can see this is going to be a very fun tournament

and it keeps crashing

>>123658982
>>123659108
Motherfuckers should've picked literally any other *band and I'd play it.

>>123657909

>Przechwytywanie

Hello fellow PL

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>>123659173
I mean I don't know
it might be a problem on my end maybe
but this window hasn't changed in five minutes

please try, anon

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There's a new build of KeeperRL out. Anybody here tried it? Good enough?
Yes I know it's not as deep as DF.

>>123658093
dcss devs still have a fetish for removing features

>>123659437
stop posting any time

>>123659483
This is my first KeeperRL post, mate. Just want to know if it's worth a try.

>>123659309
Gonna give it a shot, will report in awhile.
>>123659437
I'm enjoying it, I like leaving the dungeon with a dude and explore other dungeons and kill things, then return with the loot.
And chopping off limbs, that's also fun.

>>123659554
yeah okay bub
not a roguelike so fuck right off

Regarding PWMAngband, the competition will be played on what is effectively a "local" server with turn-based settings on. This is what I've gathered from the competition thread.

IDK how good it will be, but at least it should be interesting.

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>>123659309
Something I don't understand. Isn't the latest version 1.1.11 Beta 3?
Why do servers say 1.1.2?

>>123659913
I'unno
>>123659854
>"local" server with turn-based settings on.

but how does that work? x can only get a turn after y moves and y can get a turn after z moves and z can get a turn after a moves etc etc etc?

How does that even work?

gimme a link to the news page

>>123659854
>local server
>keking euros this hard

>>123660470
It hasn't been announced yet.
You can check the thread here: http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showthread.php?t=1086
>>123660554
"Local" means on your local area network, or in this case, hosted on your own PC.

It will play just like opening a skirmish match in an RTS on your own system.

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Alright this time I'm sure it's not possible to dig into these item vaults.
Goddammit.
I can't live without that loot.

>CDDA
>spend 1 hour reorganizing all my shit, throwing away useless stuff and disassembling the rest to make space in my car
>game crash
Yeah ok fuck this

>>123660924
>It will play just like opening a skirmish match in an RTS on your own system.
I wish I knew what that meant.

>>123661160
Should've been a dwarf bro
They can walk through walls bro

>>123661504
It's one player.
The server is simulated, but irrelevant.

>>123660924
Whats the point of playing that variant then

>>123661550
Not these walls though, since they're not diggable.
Same thing with wraithform.

>>123661891
So the only way to get in is to phase door?

>>123662030

What, there's no teleport?

>>123661160
Probably you have to dig around until you find the one wall you can dig through.

>angband vault design

>>123661160
God I hate tome, that ugly piece of shit. Its ability system or whatever it's called also sucks.

>>123661160
I remember literally getting stuck in a vault like that. I teleported out and said fuck it.

>>123663341
preach it

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>>123663341
Thanks for sharing, senpai. I hope it's a load off your mighty chest.

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>>123663523
He's right though.

>>123663616
he really is. Nobody gives a shit about ToME in this general.

>>123663523
>>123663391
I'd just seen that pic and instantly remembered how ugly those tiles are.

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>>123663703
If nobody gave a shit about ToME, we wouldn't have the rage baitposts.
It's just angry people who can't win on normal/adventure.

>>123663341
I agree

>>123663853
fuck off, weeb.

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>Summon ultimate also summons rudeposters
A tragedy!

He's right though, TOME a shit.

>>123663910
hey, he may be talking shit, but it ain't got nothing to do with chinese cartoons

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>>123663341
>>123663616
>>123664051
NO BULLY

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Guys, I'm doing a pacifist run.
I mean I haven't killed anything yet, those pets are outta control! It's not my fault!
Also I'm considering popping into Olympus to test Summon Ultimate. y/n?

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>>123657715

>>123664567
I'm newer to the game but when I tried to cross the ocean there were water dragons with fire breath that hit pretty hard even through my instrinsic demon+equipment fire resistance, so if you do try to cross the ocean I'd be careful. Don't know what Olympus is like.

>>123663341
I know /rlg/ has its shitposts, but this is some /a/-tier autismposting.

I suppose it is the weekend.

>>123665473
Doesn't matter, have basically infinite teleport. Got a few ambushes, teleported, avoided. Already in Olympus, will report findings soon.

>>123665556
>stop liking what I don't like

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Summon Ultimate summons.
I think I'm gonna stick with GWOPs, since they summon durrgons.
Plus they have like 11k HP. You've been good to me, great unclean ones. Nurgle's pestilence upon you.

just go kill the serpent

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>>123665621
Yes, that is pretty much what the post I quoted was saying, anon.

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>>123666454
No, that post explained why that game is bad, then other people joined in and then someone said "abloo bloo bloo you can't say tome is bad you're hurting my FEELINGS"

Tome is shit and that's it. I actually have it filtered, but I disabled my filters in this page just to see what was going on.

>>123665309
I had 6 uniques on one floor for me on d:4 or d.5
Sigmund, grinder, eustachio, natasha, pikel and yiuf

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Why doesn't anybody actually change how their shit looks in this game?

What server do y'all play on crawl.develz?

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>>123666831

>>123667251
Lantea

>>123667392
Excellent. I'm ready to have my weak ass tech torn apart by da real turn-based gangstas.

>>123667335
ah, the smug anime face.

But anon, there is a superior reply to that. The pony image. It is a reply that cannot be topped since it shows so much dedication to the discussion you're willing to get banned just to outsmug your adversary.

It is the ultimate reply.

>>123667335
Just a digression, but it amazes me that some people just watch chinese cartoons and suddenly think to themselves: "wow, this frame would make a great reaction image on an anonymous image board".

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>>123667570
enjoy your ban I guess

>>123667251
Everyone plays on different servers based on their location.
CAO, CBRO, and CSZO are in America.
CDO, CUE, and CXC are in Europe.
CPO is australian.
And I'm going to go ahead and assume you aren't living in japan or korea.

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>>123667570
You are already dead.

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Eh, I guess since I'm already here, might as well clear it out.
Then... well, I plan on clearing everything, so probably wrapping up quests.
Although it just dawned on me that I literally cannot kill the metal babble. So that's one thing that won't be done.

>>123667840
yes, but I won!

>>123667810
Arkansas, USA

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>>123667615
Priorities, anon.

>>123667615
I think it's more like "heh, that was amusing and I would like to amuse other people with it".

Weird concept, I know. Sounds an awful lot like fun.

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>>123667615
This is a sense that comes from years of experience in shitposting.

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>>123668135
you wouldn't recognize fun even if it slapped your face with its huge barbed futa cock.

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>>123668283

>>123667986
crawl.s-z.org is in georgia.
I had to google a map to find out where Arkansas was ;_;

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>>123668469

>>123668515
>filename
Degenerate kindly depart.

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>>123668643

>>123668515
Is it out yet?

>>123668483
I see, says the blind man. I was asking about only to make sure I could spectate the people in this thread who are crawling, and vice versa. Thanks all for putting up with the shitposting, and good luck.

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There is no love. Only quivering mass.

>>123668838
Shitposting?
I must have it filtered.
But yeah, all the anons here will play on different servers. I know quite a few play on CSZO and CXC.

>>123668832
that's an old minigame, anon
the new one isn't out yet, only procupine dodger updates

>>123668898
I know what I'm playing when 4.0.0 comes out!
Probably going to be a Dragon.

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>>123667089
>not changing it the right way

>>123668990
Nice, I've got a nice fifth of Johnny Walker Black Label on a chilly, rainy day. Taking a shot to toast all of the wins today, and hopefully I get my first 3 rune!

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>>123669382
>fading LOS
>tiles
>right

>>123669896
>I can only have fun if my eyes bleed

>>123670474
Tiles are the eyekiller.

>>123597265
wow you are a dick

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It's going OKAY.
Seriously fuck the gods and their teleporting bullshit. This is annoying as fug.
>still on the same floor, sweatwipe.png

Why the fuck does ctrl f show things in your inventory now? Is this some kind of joke?

>>123672072
I've asked several people and they also have no fucking clue.

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Woo! Fucking finally.
I don't think I like this game very much though.
Last fight was awful, they can't kill me but they have a shitload of health to chew through.

>>123670613
actually

how the fuck do I remove the clouds at least?

>>123672447
Grats anon!

>Last fight was awful, they can't kill me but they have a shitload of health to chew through.
Maybe because you were playing a tanky shielddudeser?

>>123672640
Well I did finish the fight with like a ~3000 crit at least.
Assault is a fucking beast.

>>123649590
why

>>123672447

So nice to see a non-Crawl win. Grats anon!

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uh oh

>>123673168
Stay safe anonymous

>>123673350
>>123673168
the titan decided to give the room layout a severe makeover and seperated the boss from us. turned out no problem

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So how is your stash coming along?

>>123675495
are you going to buy everything from every shop?

>>123672569
I don't know, but you can just set particle density to 0. Or disable weather effects. I'm not sure what you're talking about, I just started playing.

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So what kinda skill points should I take on this faggot?

>>123676551
Put some points in tiles, family.

>>123675495
>still no wand of healing
I'm sorry, anon.

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>>123676653
>>123670474

Thank you waifu2x

>>123676551
dex and cun

>>123676197
>>123676949
>>123677343
What the hell are you doing?

>>123677523
SCALING MY HATRED
IT'S TWICE AS BIG EVERY TIME

Actually I'm just trying out waifu2x because the first version was 2small

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Cheibriados reminds you to take it easy! Shit posting is fast posting, and fast is verboten. What roguelikes are you playing today, dearest /rlg/? I'm the crawl babby, still spatting it up in brogue. Surely one day I'll get that amulet though.

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>>123677702
>elona art with waifu2x
I can't stop kuming.

>>123677915
it really is great

>>123677765

Alternating between PosChengband and Crawl.

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yeah fuck you too game

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>>123677765

>>123678389

Let me guess. You opened a door the game warned you about, right?

>>123678768
I know
I should have known better

but

BUT
LEVEL 50
CMON


(I managed to escape)

>>123678992

Vaults don't follow whatever rules that govern enemy spawns in levels ESPECIALLY in Dreadfell.

>>123678992
At least there are only a few of them. I once found a map-wide vault in the Old Forest with a fort filled with Patchwork Trolls and reams of bandits that were like twenty levels my senior.

dck stream when

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>>123681894
it's saturday night in spaniardland.
He's banging hot chicks.

>forced to use windows to play DDA
>can't stand that godawful font
>can't use GLORIOUS UBUNTU MONO MASTER RACE for some reason
what the jizz

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CHRIST IT'S SO SMALL
HOW DO PEOPLE PLAY LIKE THIS

>>123665886
those look awesome
GWoP are great. Spellwarp Automatons are good against casters, they have some absurd magic resist, like 70% reduced damage taken from breaths and spells or something.

How do I know which skills to use in ToME? it feels like every time I invest in certain skills, my damage completely drops off midgame and I have to use every skill in my inventory just to kill a single worm mass.

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>>123683730
>not using 80x25
It's what Whales would have wanted.

Holy fuck there's been 300 commits in like ten days.

so if I have a wand of lightning where I can do E-squares and a wand of doors i can basically make an unpenetrable fortress?

>>123684194
IT'S SO GOOD
SO ROUND
SO PERFECT
I'm gonna check if I can actually play it using a virtualbox but I barely have 1 G of ram

>>123683730
Thats what she said

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>>123684391

>>123683915
it's probably best to read up how damage works on the wiki or something since it's complicated

your weapon's base damage and the attributes it uses and your weapon mastery level are all important to increase damage

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So why exactly I can't butcher orc corpses as a gargoyle of Zin?

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>>123684391

>>123678768
See, the thing is though
The thing is
Games are often meant to be won. Usually a reward is to be had for exploring every nook and cranny.
What's the dice roll on that? Like, what's the probability you open the door and it's not a pack of fast breeding teleport spamming, levelporter disenchant breathing summoners summoning summoners and instead is a moderate or even severe challenge you're capable of overcoming with enough skill, forethought and expension of cons- Well, I mean, y'know...

Or even just something interesting and enjoyable to see? Or even, I dunno, something that isn't more than a suckercockpunch thinly veiled as an idiottest? Y'know? It's not entirely unfair I guess, considering that guy survived, it just totally ruins that level from now on I guess?

But nawwww, it's all "bruh, it told u bruh y didn't u listen about the runed doors bruh"
Probably because that goes against everything that is otherwise indicated by the game's actions so far.

>>123685005
>Tome players

>>123684975
Zin considers eating sentient races impure and verboden

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Anything I should aim for right away?

>>123685005
This is bait, right?

Old DCSS uniques are such shits though, jeez
Should've just dove.
>>123685628
Says the ascii tome poster

Oh my god I hate dda's font so much
I need another pc

>>123685005
>I guess, considering that guy survived, it just totally ruins that level from now on I guess?
I had to come back to that level and died

games are..

fun

fun I guess

>>123686034
Nothing wrong with wanting to be able to see.

I got an old T30 thinkpad working, somewhat
I'll see if I can install Lubuntu on it

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good ol archer unique killed me through the 700hp heroism infusion on high peak 5

blood of life is gone, I'll try to make a run for the stairs

>>123687245
>Lubuntu
you need to go lighter

>>123687245

Install XP as a lot of these RLs run better on Windows.

>>123687669
how can I play with the ubuntu mono font
it just doesn't work

>>123687710
are you retarded
I am using windows

apparently som keys of the thinkpad don't work

you know what

I'll just play dcss

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So I did:
Unassuming Cave
Druid Dungeon up to level 6
Puppy Dungeon up to level 4

What do?

>>123688410

Try reading the spaghetti.

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>>123688628
I did.

>>123688410
kill keethrax
save poppy
kill hotzenplotz
die in small cave

>>123688410
Next you need to kill yourself_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

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Are the elven dungeons not the same as the elven ruins? Or is this just typical ToME4 stuff?

so guys im really losing determination in DCSS i always end up getting bored and making fuck ups.
think im gonna take a break
i tried tome and that shit wasnt my style
doomrl was good for awhile
whats the best chengbad?

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>>123689184
What even is this character? I'd say do the druid dungeon and listen to the druid about where to go but this character looks shitty enough that it probably can't even do that.

>>123689379
>kill keethrax
Isn't he supposed to be one tough son of a bitch?

>>123688410
What stopped you from checking out the vault in Puppy Cave? Afraid of the cavernous level? If you do check out the vault, run the hell out of there if it's mixed, mixed vaults in Puppy Cave are 80% deadly.

Other than that just go to Caverns of Chaos, the main dungeon, and down to dwarves. If you happen to find R1, you can do that too. Not sure about R2 on level 10. What's your race/class by the way?

>>123689538
>>123689649
Dwarven Duelist.
I've splatted my last character on the puppy cave vault, so I'm weary.
Are any of the random dungeons worth looking for? I heard they also feature some easier ones.

Main problem is a huge stack of various gear that I can't ID because of the lack of altars.
Makes me nearly want to get into the unremarkable dungeon to find one, but that's even trickier.

>>123687792
>how can I play with the ubuntu mono font
what game

>>123689573
you're thinking of keriax

>>123689951
Dwaftown has a guaranteed altar. Just don't die to an ambush on the long wilderness walk.

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This is a thing now.
Kinda gay.

>>123690101
cataclysm dda. I can use ubuntu mono with cmd (omega/frozen depths/unicorn/forays) but DDA is DDA
doesn't accept any good fonts

>>123689951
Did you generate Small Cave at level 1? Then you might try running through it without killing anything. If you didn't, don't even think of going there now without magic mapping and controlled teleportation.

Puppy Cave's vault can be anything. Jellies and mixed are a no-go, but it might be something easier like orcs or gnolls+hyenas as well. You should check it and just run if you see something dangerous there.

>>123690237
It sounds more exciting than +4 ac -1 ev +some resist no one cares about, at least.

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>>123690452
shut your mouth

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>>123690730
I don't know what mutation potions have to do with demonspawn mutation possibilities.

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>>123690129
No, I mean the black druid.

>>123690183
Neat, of my alignment too.
Wilderness? The flatlands/woods encounters don't seem to tough. Swamps and hills might be tricky through.

>>123690435
I grabbed the blanket at level 1, but I may have gotten a level or two in there.
Plan to visit the Unremarkable Cave at some point soon. Does the High Mountain Village after it have any benefits for neutral characters?

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Guess I'm getting lucky this round.

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>>123691712
>Giantbane

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Is this the vault?
Looking good.

There also is an altar on this level somewhere.
Lucky me.

>>123691712
Put on the hat.

>>123692214
True, I forgot after the gay ass antennae mut'd onto me and took my helmet off

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>>123691893
FOR YOU

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So what is the benefit of doing this?

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Vaults don't have loot?

>>123691712
>giant bane
>is actually a rapier??
And drop the noise ring

>>123692516
I g uess you know which one to use

>>123692749
But the tree ;_;

>>123692756
I think lesser vaults don't.

>>123690994
>Does the High Mountain Village after it have any benefits for neutral characters?
Yes, killing Oracle and eating her corpse, gives +Le and +Ma, don't remember how much. She casts death rays, so don't stand in straight line. Also eating her curses and dooms, so you need to remove this ASAP.

>>123692120
Yep, gnolls and hyenas, one of the easier ones, though with your DV/PV you should still be careful, gnolls can do some damage.

How awful is *corrode? I got it on a +7 rapier of draining with RF++.

>>123692875
yea i dropped the ring already
does having more rpois actually matter after one +? I thought i've read somewhere it actually helps more.

oh wait, it's just a vorpal +7 rapier.

>>123693001
Its not bad,procs every 5% i believe on hit so

>>123693057
No it doesnt

>>123661340
>not having autosave on

>>123693163
>procs every 5% i believe on hit so
so that's a 10% chance every single turn at mindelay. It looks pretty shitty to me.

Aww yiss.
The altar was place like shit, but we did it bros.

>>123692876
>You feel excited!
FOR FUCKING WHAT THEN

>>123692970
Well, since I can't use magic as a duelist, I guess there's no point killing her. Might pick up the companion and the loot though.

>>123692756
Not really, not lesser ones, but you can still find some mithril or adamantium gear which can be better than what you have.

What's a race/class combination that's actually fun to play as AM in ToME4 beyond wyrmics?

>>123693303
Oh its on hit towards you, if you get it
If you block it or evade, it doesnt proc obviously

As you read the scroll of identify, it crumbles to dust.
_o - 3 potions of beneficial mutation
TIME TO GET BIG!

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Boss of the Moss: A Halfling and his Make-Believe Swords

I also popped my ring of the dead on the way

>>123693467
hmm, that's way better

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>>123693324
Forgot pic.

>>123693325
Oh, that's neat I guess.

>>123693472
>You grow a pair of horns!
>Your helmet ... falls off.
Everytime

>>123693517
Mhm! Its the same for *confuse on equipment and stuff. BUT PLEASE; i could be wrong, im not that much of an experienced crawl player, i just say stuff i read in here to the guys who ask about that

>>123693472
>inb4 horns, talons and evolution

>>123693497
I just realized I never picked my second prodigy.

wow

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This guy seems to regen faster than I can deal damage to him. Should I just ditch?

>>123693497
Didn't you already die on that character? Or are there AoLS in ToME?

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>>123693741
>>123693754
I was thinking against it but I literally got big. 2x 2+str and one +2 dex
AND I had 2 cure mut pots in the sack too.

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That broadsword looks pretty good.
Now time to haul the rest of my stashed gear down here and ID it.

>>123694007
>thoose mutations
Godspeed anon, youre good to get that orb!

>>123693953
blood of life allows 1 resurrection and so does ring of the dead. had em both

>>123693446

Cornac Doomed for the extra category point or if you want to live dangerously then a Yeek Doomed since they get a major boost to willpower.

the +6 shillelagh "Devastator" {shatter}

Rememberthe6billion mosad is coming

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Gee Trollmire: 1! How come the RNG lets you spawn TWO uniques?

>>123694248
Haven't unlocked Doomed on this computer so I'm going cursed. Same thing r-right?

>>123695845
> mosad is coming
wha
who are you
what do you want from me

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What's the IDing philosophy in ADoM?
How do you go about it?

>>123696828
Mainly talking about quaff-ID and read-ID of course.

>>123696828
scrolls until you find identify, then bless it.
That's the end of the ID minigame.
After that, never wield-id anything, ever. Drop everything on an altar first.

>>123696318
>Not even drowning town guards to start the game
Gosh guys, am I doing it wrong or are we lookin at a total pleb?

>>123697041
So basically read-ID anything I have doubles of hoping for an ID scroll?
Gotcha.

>>123696318
Wow the game just randomly crashed and there's no save, not even the autosaves. And the character didn't die since it's not on high scores. Rude.

>>123697110
I've never felt the need to get extra XP before the T:1 dungeons, it's not like anything on those is strong enough to not fall apart once a breeze hits them.

>>123697110
you really don't need that kinda cheese on nightmare

>>123696318

Cursed can be fun if you go with the category that curses items and you get the right curse stacked with several items for some fun effects.

But yeah, Cursed is the more melee version of Doomed.

Acid blobs are HUGE assholes.

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Just kill me.

Should I really be doing the alchemist quests right after doing the elven dungeons like the pasta says? They seem to take you into really high level areas.

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Might as well kill all cats now.

>>123698940
>>123699428

GAS ALL CATS
RACE WAR NOW

>>123693324
>Well, since I can't use magic as a duelist, I guess there's no point killing her.
Every 5 points of Le gives one more skill advancement per level and Ma influences luck rolls. Once you have enough piety to just take off curse and doom (and enough escape options or power to survive the trip from HMV to the nearest altar), you should eat her unless you don't like free stats. Wear a blessed amulet of balance when attacking her if you are worried about alignment drop.

>>123696828
>>123696982
Do the first dwarven quest, the guy will identify all your stuff if you already have Literacy. You usually don't need identification before that (priest in dwarf town will tell you about your healing potions if you chat with him and you have any). After that it's reading blessed scrolls of identify from time to time. Read on wiki how to bless your stuff if you don't already know.

>>123699428
No, you really don't want to. Keep the count as low as you can. The fucking game only tells you it will fuck you for the first kill, it won't tell you it will fuck your further for each next too.

>>123699428
How bad does this affect you?

>>123699838
I killed the cat lord with 6 acid balls and I killed more than a hundred cats

the cat lord is a fucking pushover

KILL ALL CATS

>>123699594
Well something like that early certainly helps a lot >>123694031

>>123699838
It's too late anon, I'm turning him into a deathball and XP piniata.
>implying I'll live long enough to meet him

>>123700039
http://ancardia.wikia.com/wiki/Cat_lord

>>123700117
>acid balls
No shit m8, I imagine he's a lot worse for melee.

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Well, that wasn't as bad as I expected.

>>123700491
Do I eat it?

>>123700638
no dumb dumb
you cook it with a fire spell and run away to guttalax to get a potion of cure corruption

of course you can't cook it since you're not a wizard so you're just going to run like hell and dip it in a potion of holy water when it gets rotten.

>>123700841
B-but muh stats.

>>123700938
>muh stats

yeah and you also get 3 corruptions you have no way to remove, jerkwad
I'd love to see you get to dwarftown with stiff muscles

>>123701096
Wiki says 1, but I guess you are right.
Could be even less if you bless the corpse?

>>123701369
no, blessing doesn't do anything
but seriously, don't eat that shit

So scrolls of acquirement are now ID'd already. Where can I view all the changes to trunk?

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>>123701490
I didn't.
How tough is he?

>>123701889
if you've killed the druid you will have no problems at all.

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>bully not so tough after being molested.jpg

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>>123702001
Is it worth getting rid of him at this point as well (assuming I can manage?).
Supposedly most of his skills aren't very useful and I'd enjoy the discount.

>>123658093
Nope, this is really swell in spider where you get to disarm webs that aren't shallow water with your face~ Cause long swords are useless!

>>123702606
>Is it worth getting rid of him at this point as well
no, never. You need climbing and detect traps and lots of other skills I forgot about.

Plus he'll kill you dead.

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so far so good. odd that i haven't found a single cloak or amulet yet though

How do I target stuff offscreen in Tales of Taj?

Also alchemist seems more broken than I remember, I bought the game finally and I'm golem alchemist with all my general points into staff stuff. I channel for ~80-100 and he hits for 80-100 himself and lifesteals 10% of the time.

>>123703168
>ring of poison resistance
>with poison resistance mut
you double bugger

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>>123702723
The only things I lack is disarm traps and pick locks, but of them not being terribly useful from what I've read.

>Plus he'll kill you dead.
His wiki stats make him appear weaker, but harder to hit compared to Hotzenplotz.

>>123703253
literally no other rings to wear. besides one of loudness

>>123703258
>a huge fireball engulfs you!
>stranger runes activate on the door, your eternium cap (+50,+90) is destroyed! Your blessed girdle of giant strength is destroyed! Your blessed seven league boots are torn apart!
etc
etc
etc

>>123703461
Yes, that's what happens when you try to use disarm traps.

>>123703461
Well, detecting them is easy enough.
You could try to find a way around it, or dig around it once I find a damn pickaxe, which should probably be earlier than finding enough gold to pay for all that shit.

>>123692749
Apparently it's for some permafood and salt if you have the know-how. Only good for if you're some determined wilderness hobo.

>Watch qw (elliptic's bot)
>it has fucked up
>keeps stepping around randomly

My sides

>>123703579
This. Using Disarm Traps is handicapping yourself.

>>123705753
Do not bully the bots

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>>123707280
The bots must become more than they are or they'll always be only what they were written to be. Bullying them into a frenzy is their only salvation.

Any plot-heavy roguelikes besides Tales of Maj-Eyal you could recommend, /rlg/?

>>123708436
Infra Arcana

>>123708436
The mystery dungeon games are pretty good.

>>123708436
The only other one that I can think of is ADoM. Plot heavy roguelikes don't really work IMO.
>>123708613
Terrible suggestion IMO

>>123708436
Play Elona. Find out about how two foreigners kill a hobo in his cave home, have you eat his corpse, take anything of value and leave you with some of his junk, including a chest of valuables they failed to open, to incriminate you, dig up his nest egg of gold bars which they swap out with a fake and give back to you without your knowledge, then have you kill his pet putits before leaving you holding the bag so to speak.

>>123708436
ADOM

>>123700117
He's a pushover if you have acid ball.

Killing billions of cats isn't recommended if you're playing a farmer.

>>123692756
>>123692876
>>123693325
>lesser vaults don't have loot

They can but only very rarely.

Found the bracers of war in a lesser undead vault once before Dwarftown.

who /cata/ here

>>123703579
>>123705965
So would you axe that guy >>123702606
now or later?

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>>123712581
OG reporting in

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>>123712581
/cozy/ reporting in. How many oatz u got bitch?

>>123714826
All I want is the ability to post up in the 2nd floor of a office tower in my tiny cozy nook hidden from the world but there are still no fucking z levels

>>123715632
We had a guy go full Depressionpants McSchizophrenia from a higher floor of an office tower months ago.

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If they don't stack, does that mean that one of them has a hidden ego effect?

>>123718364
>[+1,+3]
>[-1,+3]

>>123714826
Go home /fit/, you're lost.

I see a lot about farming, but I've never been close to running out of food. Is it just a 90-day seasons winter thing?

>>123719137
adom has like, weird XP rewards and effects for farming.
It's not about feeding yourself silly out of the irrational fear you'll die terribly from starvation later. You uh, learn things by growing stuff!
I think

>>123718551
Playing roguelikes at 4am isn't a good idea from the looks of it.

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>>123719137
>Go home /fit/, you're lost.

Not all who wander are lost...

>>123719137
I viewed it as a convenience thing. Want to spend 40 days welding on your vehicle and breaking wrecks down for metal? Gonna tackle this lab or make a sewer rover? No breaks for hunting. no breaks for foraging every third day. No bulk charcoaling and raiding ant hills for smoked meat and ant eggs. In 1 day you get an entire year or more of food and you're free until it rolls around again. Installing funnels in your vehicle with dirty water tanks keeps you supplied on the move.

>>123721864
And another thing,a side effect of getting it is that you have lots of time building up melee skills, bow skills, you gain a forge, kilns, and a smoking rack. It just gives you an incredibly stable foothold. Whether you get sick, get critically wounded, want to read for eternity uninterrupted, it's all there now.

>>123721864
But hunting NPCs is fun

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>>123722789
Indeed. It's much better when you're the omnicidal maniac

I got bored with DCSS so I installed FTL with Captain's Edition. This is some Star Trek shit. How did I not hear about this?

>>123724429
Cause you didn't beat http://rogue.rogueforge.net/rogue-5-4/ first

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>>123724429
you should have heard of Captain's Edition from any community that discusses FTL.

You would never have heard about it here because this is a thread for roguelikes, not games with a few roguelike elements that claim to be actual real roguelikes for marketing purposes.

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>>123724429

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Hey /dcssg/
I wouldn't play it all that much but uh....
Uhhhh....
http://www.kongregate.com/games/laFunk/idle-sword

Can someone tell me what to do for storage in Cataclysm DDA? Is there any way to pack things into containers and make them easier to move, or am I stuck throwing all my shit on the floor?

>>123727305
Dude we've barely talked about DCSS the last 3 threads.

>>123727609
Vehicles. You can make a cart out of wood and nails with no (low?) skills.

Technically you can throw stuff in a locker and pull it around, too, but unless you are super buff you won't get much in it.

>>123727609
Lockers are the preferred. 8000 vol, can only see contents when near, and block LoS. You can get sheet metal deconstructing ovens until you can remove quarterpanels from cars. constructing cupboards is a ghetto second. You'll want 2 fridges as well, If there's an underground, it's preferred to store your stuff there or store the things you'll miss in storage "vehicles" made out of wood framed with wood boxes from 2 wood frames. Generally, block LoS with lockers/fridges and put your stuff behind that so NPC's don't see and thus wont smash to get to something and boarding up doors/windows helps.

>>123727305
I've played it. It doesn't belong here. It's not a roguelike, it's a roguelikellike.

>>123727305
Not a fucking roguelike

>>123728057
I feel like a fucktard for smashing all my lockers early now. Oh well, thanks for the advice anon.

>>123728054
Yeah, I figured this would help. I stole a shopping cart from a grocery store and have been dragging it around everywhere.

>>123728473
Craft fishing hooks for fabrication 1. Then either do wooden needles for fab 2 or just make 2 wooden frames until you succeed. * place vehicle. Then examine andi nstall a wood box which costs your second wood frame. bam, a 150 vol "shopping cart" out of some 2x4's and nails.Since you already have a thing though, if you can get your hands on a steel frame and some duct tape you can put in a trunk or a cargo carrier onto your shopping cart to haul more for only 50 duct tape.

>>123728151
>>123728419
Is that just like, an autoreply filter or some shit? Didja even look at the-
Alternate question: Hey guys, where do the tiles from stone soup come from, who like, makes those and stuff?

>>123730475
Hey, wait, there was a 3d tileset for dungeon crawl before stonesoup?
Whoa.
Whoa...
Brb, gotta go tape razors to my eyes to get ready.

>>123730660
>3d tileset
Nigga your drunk

>>123730878
DOOOOODE! FOR 6 EASY PAYMENTS OF 1 AMULET OF YENDOR YOU, YES YOU?, YES YOU!!! CAN HAVE A 8TH DIMENSIONAL TILESET! THAT'S A WHOLE 6 DIMENSIONS MORE THAN ANY COMPETITOR. GOTYAY GUARANTEED

>>123685005
Have you ever actually played tome4?

>>123730475
Elona uses some of those tiles as well. No idea where they originate from.

>>123732159
rltiles, I think.

look, ancient tiles from days of yore!
rltiles.sourceforge.net/dc-item.html


>>123730878
Quit following me!

http://rltiles.sourceforge.net/dc-3d.html

>>123731571
Yeah. Usually those blue runed doors aren't even that bad.
But like, there's not even any flavor or fluff or whatever in those "lol uber-vault get shrekt overlevelcappin on ur bases" and it's pretty... pretty random. I acknowledge that I might have to kite around a vampire twice my level if I dig up a grave, but I mean, not everyone plays summoners either.
Anyways, runevaults a shit, try and convince me otherwise while I splat these crawl characters.

>>123732715
>that triple sword tile

>>123732937
I asked because at least 90% of the time those overleveled mobs are completely manageable.

>>123733129
Totally reasonable and it makes up for the other cases where they make a level permanently unsalvageable, right?

>>123734235
I don't play tome4 but wouldn't you argue that if you had the judgement or were willing to put in the time and splats to be able to accurately judge your ability to dip them, isn't the uniques and other rare loot worth it for the massive effectiveness boost they'd give you over ignoring them?

>>123735560
I dunno, either it's a pushover vault with loot that's better than randomfloorvendortrash but usually not even an upgrade or it completely wipes you from the face of the earth with the only real challenge you've seen since you had to figure out if you needed another level before going to norgos lair.

>>123734235
Yes, yes it does. It's a fraction of a percent.

>>123736682
Except in dreadfell, apparently.

>>123735882
Someone needs to play higher difficulty settings.
Also
>not starting in Norgos' Lair
If you have ranged attacks or can consistently stun/slow/pin him there's no excuse. But the alternate form with a lot of ice elementals is annoying as fuck.

>>123663341
CAME HERE TO SUPPORT THIS MESSAGE DESU

>>123734235
>make a level permanently unsalvageable
I don't really see why this is a problem. You don't miss out on anything if you clear the level before opening the vault. Even if you have to abandon it, there is absolutely no reason to revisit any dungeon until you come back from the East, and by then you should be able to kill anything the vault spawned easily.

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>>123737769
msafw(my smug anime face when) when you posted what you posted

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>>123738437
Have you had breakfast yet?

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>>123738673
Have you?

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>>123738769
I'm thinking about going to this nice burger place nearby but I tend to feel guilty about eating meat these days.

Just picked up Eldritch since it was 90% off on steam. It's pretty fun but I am confused about some stuff. Anyone else playing it?

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>>123740092
I have played it a little. It's definitely not a roguelike though. It's a 3d action/adventure/stealth/platformer with a few roguelike elements. It has basically nothing in common with the game Rogue.

>>123740857
difficulty ramps up when you go into the second book, theres stone lizards that if they see you they immediately kill you if you stop looking at them

>>123741012
and that makes the realtime 3d action game more like Rogue how? "Sometimes kindof difficult and with some random things" does not a roguelike make.

>>123741138
i never said that makes it more roguelike, im saying that because they dude only played for a little

>>123740857
That is the dorf that gets sent to the caves to collect cave spider thread without any prior military intervention. Surely he is some filthy migrant.

>>123740857
>today's dwarves don't conform to outdated stereotypes
>dwarves can be tall
>and sexy
>and they don't even have to make things
>they can live in trees houses if they want
>I mean
>it's 2015 isn't it?
>maybe have a little elven wine
>curl up with a diorite musicbox
>um...a king? a little outdated, much?
>dwarven economy OFF pls, communes only