/twg/ - Total War General

First for Chrissy Lee, the hot piece that would probably have been VA for Big Karl

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> tfw when your giant ballista hits an enemy formation dead center and wipes out half the unit

>He didn't post the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvKRbi2ovDY

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>>123335591

Second for he is finally with his forefathers, sharing stories about bloody raids into what is now Germany.

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>>123335591
>>123335793
fuck man, came here to shitpost not to feel.

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

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>>123335294
>forgot the fucking announcement

Way to go, retard. You saw the mistake made in the first new general yet you did nothing to correct it.

New, proper thread w/ proper OP picture AND the goddamn announcement vid: >>123336357

Feels welcome.

>>123336498

Fuck off, I included it, I just accidentally put it under the Warhammer section.

Pretty sure the all caps make it obvious, though.

Fuck your Shogun shit, this is the one true Charlemagne edition.

How much Saxon blood should I spill?

>>123335294
Islamic factions will be an invading force from north africa that you can't stop at the source like the moors.

Screencap this.

OK, let's get this thread off with some campaign posting.

I thought I had wrapped up wars with Germanic shitters, but the refugees from razing the Baltic coast came all the way to fucking Britain just to shit on me.

We'll remove them from premises quickly, and then start ravaging the Roman world with our

BIG
CELTIC
SPEARS

>>123337787

The Islamic Factions already control most of Spain during that time period retard.

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>>123337478

>yfw if Christopher Lee was alive, they would have had him narrate the announcement trailer as Old Man Charlemagne.

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>>123337897

forgot pic

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>>123338463

What the fuck CA, I love the Celtic pack but this clipping is horseshit.

Anyway, we're about to remove Rugians from premises.

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>>123339118

We take the offensive, and march towards the enemy. Their cavalry charge our forward skirmisher line, opening themselves up to be taken out by our own cav.

>>123339118

Im pretty sure those clipping capes are from a mod you installed, vanilla doesnt have those

>>123339118
I really wish I knew how to keep my celts visible like yours in FOTE. Damn missing textures.

>>123339629
>>123340690

Well maybe FotE is fucking things up to some extent, it's the only mod I'm running that could cause the clipping.

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I love EB as much as much as the next guy, but the custom battle rosters are fucked , why can every faction feild every unit?
> German barbars can recruit hoplites

>>123340926
I would take the clipping if it meant I could have the fucking textures back

>>123341529

go press the multiplayer battles shortcut in the folder

back up your edu before you do that though

My guesses for the 8 playable factions:

1. Charlie.
2. One of the mainland Saxons.
3. One of the Anglo-Saxons.
4. One of the Muslims.
5. Christian Iberians.
6. Roman Sicily.
7. ??? One of the Slavs?
8. ??? One of the Celts?

I also hoped that at least the Avars, one each of the Irish and Welsh, Lombardy, and at least one of the non-Charlemagne Frankish factions would be playable.

Shouldn't be too long before we get unlocker mods, though.

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Reminder that I got it all right two months ago.

Which faction are you going to play your first campaign as?

>>123344323
I would say Asturias, but I worry that will be the easiest faction that kinda breaks the ideas of the DLC

>start small, have large potential for growth
>enemy at doorstep, safe distance away from allies so they don't get antsy
>have diplomatic bonuses with the big boiz
>easy to justify expansion wars, fewer penalties for constant war

>>123344323
Charlemagne so I can shed the blood of the Saxon men.

>>123344323
I want to say the Theme of Sicily so I can reestablish the Exarchate. Don't even think think they'll be playable though, so I'll probably just go with Charlemagne.

>>123344876

I'm actually thinking that they may not be playable.

We know that Charlie will be in, and the Steam page strongly implies that mainland Saxons, Vikings, and Muslims will be playable. And I'll preorder Warhammer for everyone in /twg/ if CA doesn't make one of the English factions playable.

That's 5/8.

Lombardy has to be in because its Charlie's main Christian rival.

6/8.

Celts are popular and have ridiculous faction density on the map (10 factions in 12 regions), so we can bet one of them will be in.

7/8

So for the final faction, we have as strong contenders Asturias, Byzantine Sicily, one of the Slavs, and the Avars.

Personally, I'm betting on the Avars, even though I want Asturias more than anything. I don't know why you think they'll be easy, there'll probably be some kind of vassal system, so you may not be dealing with divided Taifas, but instead a more or less united Iberia.

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Welcome to AMD master race

>>123344323

Wessex, remove viking filth.

>>123344323
The Muslims, because they'll most like be Cordoba or some other Muslims in Iberia, and the both the different religion and the start position will probably make for an interesting campaign.

>>123337787
>>123337787
in 768, Umayyads already settled down in spain. Charles Martel was Charlemagne's gramps, damn son read some books

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>>123344323
I hope there'll be more rivers so boats can go further inland this time around. How else am i suppose to pillage paris

>Turks happening
>Berserk happening
>Charlemagne happening


Looking at you EB2 team

Why is M2TW so good?

>>123350919
Modding.

>>123350191
>Berserk happening
Wait what did they get off that fucking boat ?

>>123350191
DOAX3 happening is fun too

>>123351501
YES, there is sticky on /a/

>>123350919
Mods. That's it.

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I want to get into this series...
Should I play it based by release order? Which games should I avoid?

>>123352164
Every game is good now, first shogun and medieval are propably dated as fuck if you never played them.
For start choose the one that you are most interested in history. You love knights and crusades? Med 2
You like Japan? Shogun 2
Napoleon? Napoleon, or Empire for pre Nap
TRIARII? rome 1
rome 2 and attila are fun too, but i wont recomend them to you at start

>>123352445
>tfw no TW game set in three kingdoms era

>>123352164

The newer games are a lot harder and more comples than the earlier ones, especially Attila. I would recommend starting with a classic like M2 to familiarize yourself with the basics, before moving onto whatever game's setting you like the most.

Although it has to be said is the most feature complete and challenging game, so you may want to check it out even if you aren't a fan of the setting. Especially with the new Charlemagne DLC coming out in 2 weeks.

>>123352520
there are some mods for it for med 2, but not translated

>>123352164
It really depends on the period you feel like you would enjoy the most.

(I didn't play original Shogun and Medieval)

Rome 1 is good, might be a little hard to play nowadays though
controls are very clunky, same for Medieval 2
Alexander is not fun

Medieval 2 has great time period and lots good mods, it might be worth playing just for that
Kingdoms is good

Empire is only good if modded with LME or Darthmod

Napoopan is like Empire, but better in every way. It's on a smaller scale though

Shogun 2 has great presentation, it's a good starting point imho because it's not too complicated, the battles are fairly straight forward and everything looks and sounds really great
The standalone Fall of the Samurai expansion is good fun too, if you like gunpowder shenanigans it might be for you

Rome 2 was garbage at launch, but they did a lot of work to fix it. If you like the time period it might be worth a try

Attila is great, I really like it. I don't know if I would recommend is as a first game in the series though, I think it's somewhat more complicated and more difficult to get into

>>123352445
>>123352645
>>123352775
Thanks guys, you're cool.

>>123351587
Fuck yeees.

>>123352645
>the newer games are harder then the older ones
Lol nope. The battles got smaller scale and faster paced from rome 1 onwards

>>123353382

Rome 1 is the fastest paced and easiest game in the series by far. You can wipe entire stacks using just a general unit if you aren't shit.

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>>123353382

M2 is literally the only game slower than Attila and R2. It's also much less challenging as a result. Not to mentions the AI is absolute garbage by comparison.

>>123353575
>m2 slow
>where cavalry basicaly wrecks everything

>>123344323
>"Reminder that I got it all right two months ago."
>leak told us what the map is.
>draw it in paint.
>"Look guys I guessed the map!"

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>Canterbury is a city in the Charlemagne DLC
>Kingdom of Kent a faction

BASED
A
S
E
D

unlocker mod when? Can't wait to conquer Britannia as the glorious Jutes.

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>>123352520
>>123352647

You mean this one?

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?1904-Rise-of-Three-Kingdoms-(RotK)

I think its fully translated

>>123350191
Also
>Witch Hunters happening for DoW1

>>123356084
As a mod or...?

>>123356342
That French mod by Friedrich_P and KRMZ where they disbanded and didn't let anyone touch their mod back in 2007.

It's out now for Soulstorm. Thudmeizer and co. finally got through to them after 8 years of negotiations.

>>123335294

>Charlemagne gets announced
>seriously considering getting Atilla now
>Turkey shoots down a Russian jet

Fuck sake Turkey.

>>123356617
Based Turks

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>>123358149

Just got Atilla and I don't know where to start. I don't want to begin with a fuckhuge empire, nor do I fancy migrating and raiding. I want to learn the game (buildings, units and tech) the classical way first. Preferable without horse archers.

>>123358347
>choking puppy to death

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>>123358612

Franks

>>123358612
>>123358727
Franks is good vanilla barber experience

>>123358612

Lakhmids

>>123358863
Love me some iceni, so cool, thanks.

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Why is Patch 17 so shit anons?

That auto setting for battles sucks major dick. Pre Patch 17. I ran everything at extreme perfectly fine at 78-110fps. Since 17 the auto settings lowers the graphical quality despite manual settings being extreme. Clearly it was made for those with potato computers to stop complaining about technical issues whilst alienating those on high end ones.

I no longer play battles because they look so shit now. Rome 2 is now just a city builder lite.

I hope Attila never gets that shit.

>>123358149
Nothing based about Islamist cunts anon that happily help ISIS. Turkey should be removed for their crimes.

Turkey invaded Syrian airspace to shoot down Russian jets that passed into Turkish airspace for just 17 seconds over a 2.5km wide piece of land. Thats an act of war and article 5 of NATO does not apply to Aggressor members.

It was a planned downing.

>>123358612
>just got Attila
>he doesn't realise steam is having a black friday sale starting on Thursday and ends on Monday thats why theres been no midweek madness and only 48 items on sale instead of the usual 160+.

If you waited you could have got it cheap.

>>123360040
Holy shit your rettard

>>123354851
And its fucking boring. Its just better to play those KOEI ROTK games instead.

>>123360223
>rettard
Looked in a mirror lately anon?

>>123362873
He's probably "Greek"

NEW TRAILER '

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbvY_fij9E8

WE WAAAGH NOW

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>>123364337

WHERE ARE THE FUCKING TOMB KINGS CA?!

Why are you forgetting about karloman? charlemagne's brother?
Shouldn't he be playable?
Because at the beginning the empire was practically split between the brothers
until karloman died(presumably charlie had a hand in this)
>>123364337
Nice

>>123364448
SECOND EXPANSION

2017 YEAR OF THE SKELETON

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbvY_fij9E8

MY DICK IS DIAMONDS

>>123365097

HOLY FUGGIN SHIT DAT CAMPAIGN MAP.

>>123364337
I really like the animations on the goblin

He did a good job of getting me hyped, I would have promoted him instead of squashing the guy

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>>123365097
FIRST CHARLEMAGNE AND NOW THIS

>>123365206

Grimgor hates goblins

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You're alive?!!!!
Charlemagne resurected /twg/ the same way he resurected the Western Roman Empire!

>>123365097
>>123364337

That accent is sex to my ears

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFxOqFRgD8o

>>123365148

Are there any full pictures of it out?

>>123365467
where do i know those guitars from

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>>123365097

ERR WE GO BOYZ

'UMIES, STUNTIES 'ND SPIKEY BOYZ WEZ CUMMIN FOR YA

why is attila so shit

even rome 2 is preferable

>>123365928
why are you so shit

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>>123365928

>>123365928
CA lost their magic touch ages ago my friend.

How long was EB2 development time? 8 years?

>>123367340
>this is what Medieval 2 fags unironically believe

>>123367490
look out, he is gonna retaliate with the ol' "rome & attila are shit" one two

>>123364337
Campaign map and the bits of battle footage (Especially the siege) looked great. Not that I expect it to look quite so good in action, but still. I am a bit worried about the lack of Vampire Counts. Chaos is apparently in better shape than them judging by the fact that they got shown off over VC.

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Hi

It seems CA has commited a mistake - I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume out of ignorance, although the systematic perpetuation of such myths does look oddly like intentional foul play wishing to whitewash history.

For those unawarae, Charlemagne was actually moorish (as were most European peoples at the time). There is a lot of evidence pointing this out, and the only reason it is not more widely known is the literal genocide (of race, culture and even history) commited in Europe that has become known by the whitewashed term of "Renaissance".

I hope CA fixes this, as it is frankly just disheartening. It is the 21st century, time to stop letting historical revisionism and obvious propaganda shape your worldview.

>>123368741
Chaos was already announced in form of their own trailer, dwarfs and empire all had their respective videos as well

They probably won't show first Vampire Count footage in another factions trailer, they will get their own trailer tam tam

>>123365590
I'm pretty sure it's used in Snatch (probably the last boxing scene), but I don't know if it's originally made for it

>>123369058

6/10

Mostly reused bait, but decently crafted for what it is.

>>123369682
I just honestly wanted to share the picture since it has become relevant and decided to have a little fun with it

>>123369082
Still, we could've gotten the goblin saying "We could even have a go at those blood sucking gits if you REALLY want to..." and show a shot of a VC city or something. Like I said, just a bit concerning that we've seen nothing outside the announcement trailer.

>>123369058
The only race charlemange belonged to was the Human Race.

>>123369058

>Hyphenation in the text

Disgusting.

>>123369592
That has to be where I recognize it from, I saw Snatch again very recently

>>123369739
Why would they do that though?

They will show the Vampire Counts in their own trailer, there is no reason to use their footage in the orc trailer instead of using the already established factions

Why would you want to take attention away from the orcs?

Obviously you want to see the Vampire Counts and that's exactly why they don't just add the first gameplay footage of the faction as some throwaway line in another factions big trailer

>>123370164
I want to see all the factions. Its less a desire to see them as to know that they're in the same level of completeness as the other factions. I don't think having a nod to one of the main factions, when you bring up every other faction, is a "Throwaway line". I was just thinking of a b-roll shot of a castle or something to show us that they are in fact coming along. No need for battle footage. Not sure what you have against seeing more footage in anycase, but whatever mang.

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>tfw EB2

>>123370505
I don't have anything against seeing more footage, it just makes no sense whatsoever to show Vampire Counts in this trailer

>>123370654
>It makes no sense whatsoever to show a teaser shot for the 5th faction after showing off the 4 other factions

That's what you sound like

>>123370938
Why do you have to be so retarded?

They other four already had their trailers, Vampire Counts did not.

They will get their own big trailer a couple weeks from now.

It makes no sense whatsoever to take the big trailer for one faction and shove in the gameplay reveal for a faction that previously did not have any publicly available gameplay footage

The fact that the marketing people behind this thing agree with me proves that you are retarded.

I don't know what is wrong with you, I'm starting to suspect you feel some sort of autisitc need to search for something wrong with the game that you can go worry about at this stage

>>123371217
Read the posts bitch nigga, I never said to show off game[lay footage. Just a shot of like the exterior of a castle or even just Manfred sitting on a throne or something to let us know, "Oh look, CA is in fact working on that and we can expect to see something of that in the coming weeks." I didn't even think it was that big a deal, you seem to be the one who is set against it so much. Christ, you seem very dead set against a position that nobody is taking.

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>Napoleon Campaign as Russia
>in the Coalition
>get a mission to take Finland off Sweden
>well okay, who am I to argue with orders
>Declare war, Austria and UK declare war on me
>well shit, not in the Coalition anymore
>army invading Ottomans in the South
>army taking Finland from the Swedes
>Austrian doom-stack bee lining it for central Russia
>just about manage to get the Northern Army there in time
>50% militia, 50% line infantry oh shit gonna get messy
>Austrian agents burning everything down and killing my generals
>set up Romania as a buffer between me and the Turks
>its a messy war with them, taking too many losses, mostly Cossack cav so who gives a fuck
>on Istanbul's doorstep
>Austria all up in my shit
>Napoleon no where to be seen
>mfw

This is insane. The infantry melee bonus isn't worth shit, my men can't shoot anything and I'm stuck with nothing but lots of militia and fuck all artillery.

How the hell do I fix this?

>>123371496
They don't need to prove that the Vampire Counts exist to please your autistic mind you moron
fucking lmao

You are clearly retarded, apply yourself

>>123364337
>>123365097

>that siege

Dayum

>>123371496
>>123370938
jesus christ you are dumb as fuck

>>123371656
>"Stupid autist wanting to see more of the game he's looking forward to."

Seriously dude, you seem very upset about my desire to see a teaser for a faction that we haven't seen hardly anything of (Even though we already got a trailer for a Pre-Order DLC faction). Did Dracula fuck your mother or something? Are you Wesley Snipes? When is the next Blade movie coming?

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You guys ready?

>>123372169
not that guy, but please shut up
you are embarrassing yourself

you really wanting to see vampire counts is exactly why they will reveal their footage with their own trailer and series of videos
you would have to be mentally challenged to take focus away from orcs and campaign map by premiering vampire footage in an unrelated trailer

their goal is to market the game, not to show you what you want to see right now just so you can stop tip toeing from one foot to the other like a child that's about to piss itself

>>123372406

>ORCthrough

...what?

>>123372469
How am I going to embarrass myself on an anonymous image board? Half of those posts calling me a retard may have been me for all you know. Not going to apologize for wanting to see more of the game or expressing concern that we've seen more of the pre-order faction than one of the base factions. Not expecting them to focus on them at all in the orcs trailer, just something like the Dwarf teaser at the end of that one Empire video to get us hyped for the next thing. Really not sure why that's such a big deal that you even needed to respond.

If I can't play as true christian Spanish removing kebab I'm going to be upset.

>>123372485
They are going to be playing as the Orcs in a play-through of the campaign

>>123373063
>true christian Spanish

spaniards are kebabs

>>123373063
>wanting to play as a nigger

>>123369058
WE WUZ KEENGZ AND SHEEIT

>>123370629
whats up with this EB2 meme? never played the mod myself

http://www.totalwar.com/games/total-war-warhammer-high-king-edition
Anyone actually thinking about buying that?

>>123373715
>buying the goy collector edition
>ever

"no"

>>123373715

I can't hardly justify buying it at all with the Pre-order DLC fuckery.

I'm sure as shit not gonna buy the Ultra-Good-Goy Fuckmeintheass Edition

is it possible to change capitals in warscape era games?

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>>123373881
>Really wanted to buy the Shogun 2 grand master edition that had the neat chess board back when it was released
>Couldn't because i was a poor student
>Now i can afford the collectors editions but have bought none becuase none of them have anything worthwhile in them

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>>123370629
>tfw vegetation


>>123373708
EIGHT (8) YEARS

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>>123344323
why no Swedes?

>>123374592

Because Swedish "Vikings" were beyond irrelevant in the period

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>>123374543
wtf how and why? i thought it was already released for years? is it owrth picking up?

>>123375242
beta was released. last year. no

>>123374592
Sweden/Norway a shit

Denmark was the only Norse nation relevant at that point

>>123375242
Current build not worth it. But the next one will be.

It's a good time for mods and Berserk. Witch Hunters is out....EB 2 will be out...

>>123375242
They're huge autists and bloated the game.

>>123375558

they didn't bloat shit, they just had nobody to work on it

>>123376030
For most of the 8 years the only guy really working on it was a writer. It wasn't until the past 2 years that some guy took lead and whipped the artists and modellers into shape.

And then he managed to recruit even more help when the momentum built up.

>>123374754
n-not the southern ones!

>>123375484
he if they could pull the Viking forefathers out of their arses for Attila then they can let me lead Swedish Vikings to conquer Rome

>>123371654
General Winter?

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>>123369058
>capsammochal peoples
>mocha is even in the name

>>123373063
>Spanish

Didn't exist yet, you can be a Visigoth insurgent

>TW games are notoriously bugged and terrible on launch
>CA acting like they're doing day 1 DLC "for the consumer" and not just gutting chaos because they know everyone wants that and they want to entice pre-orders before honest reviews come out, which irritates the shit out of me
>but I've been dying for a warhammer TW ever since I played Rome 1

I'm so conflicted right now
I mean, I want to buy it so I support fantasy settings in TW alongside realism and I know I'm going to play chaos, but at the same time I feel like I'm willingly getting fucked for doing it.

>>123339118

The clipping isn't CA's fault, those cloaks are from vanilla R2 models. I'll need to re-assign the textures to Attila variants that won't have the clipping.

And when I get to the celts I will be more or less doing them from scratch so hopefully >>123340690 spooky phantom celts will be solved then.

>>123344323

Emirate of Cordoba and Charlemagne. Former for
J I N E T E S
I
N
E
T
E
S

And what should be a fairly rich and varied roster - elite Umayyads, rank and file Andalusians bringing some sturdier troops and couscous for the light infantry and cavalry.

>>123376990
Wait a year or two, buy the entire, complete game for $40, bide your time with RotDG

>>123376990
>Ten total war games.
>Only two have been shit at launch.

pls.

>>123376990

P I R A T E
I
R
A
T
E

>>123377150
Okay three
Med 2 Rome 2 Empire

>>123376990
With Attila I waited a couple days to see how the game turned out, since the launch was great I bought a key that included the preorder DLC from the internet

so, do we know which faction are playable in Charlemagne, and which will be behind DLC?

WAAAAAAAAAAAGH

>>123377920
>DLC for DLC
That would be some next level shit

>>123378229
well, Charlemagne is more like expansion than DLC

What's the point of seiges past the fact you have to break down their wall ?
Once you have the seige equipment build , there's no purpose in not attacking
Why is the option to seige the city till it surrenders even there? I know thats how it was in history but be real
How many times have you seige a city into surrender ?

>>123377920
Well at least CA is not paradox to make DLC for DLC

>>123378229
If it was one that expanded the map to the Byzantines, the splintering Abbasids, and other slavs I wouldn't mind. Course, CA never
So this is probably going to be the last campaign pack for Attila, isn't it?

>>123364448
This memer is single handedly delaying the reveal of vampire counts with his constant memeing.

>>123378430
In Attila their walls start crumbling down if you siege for longer periods of time, if you wait long enough the enemy will eventually run out of supplies and attack you in the field so you don't have to fight a siege battle

>>123373715
If they release editions for other factions I might get a vamp count version just so I can have my own Book of Nagash or Arkhan.

>>123378430

All the time actually.

>siege city with army
>leave them there and go off and do other things
>a few turns later enemy sallies out and I fuck them up in an open battle

EZ.

>>123378430

I always try and starve and force the enemy into engaging me in a field battle in shogun 2

I dont think they ever outright surrendered tho

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Does Himyar get any special events like the hunt for spice / breaking free from the Sassanid rule like Aksum and Lakhmids get? All i've got so far is the game asking if i want to spend 500 jewbucks to repair a dam

>>123378430
In the Attila it's mostly pointless since they go on forever, but in some of the older ones I sometimes found it worthwhile to just wait it out to reduce casualties. If it's only 3 or 4 turns I think it's better to wait.

In Attila it's worth doing if the army garrisoned inside has attrition but you don't. If you're armies are evenly matched it's a good way to weaken them before a fight.

>>123378616
*CA never does that for their campaign packs

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Playing Third age with DaC as isengard
>wiped out rohan, and isengard is spewing out doomstacks
> the ring has been spotted in an elf city up north
>mineminemineminemine
> march lurtz and and stack up north to kill those damn elves and take the ring
> finally get to the city,
> i have more guys, but the autoresolve says its about 40:60 infavor of the elves
> will be a hard fight but i can still win, iv won in worse conditions
> its a forest map, the kinda where you cant see the units half the time behind all the trees
fuck, its been fun lurtz, give em hell before the end takes you

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First shot of Sylvania for any of you interested.

Looks spooky, what do you guys think of the fact that they got rid of the cities expanding on the campaign map feature that Attila and Rome II had?

>>123378430

sieging seems pretty worthless in attila and rome 2, it takes so fucking long to starve anybody out, and with limited armies, you have to use a single full one to siege

>>123379858
Don't miss the opportunity,send more units after you lose (or maybe win).

>>123380325
Good, i am tired of waiting for growth

Why doesnt Charlemagne have the blood DLC installed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNOy63UZXvM

Is Attila bad because of it's dlc model? Attila and charles the man is both on sale for 28$ together, so I'm wondering if it's worth it for charles

>>123380672
why should it? Theu are 2 different DLC

>>123380684

Attila has 90% of the things that made Rome 2 bad.

>>123380672
Because "Rated T"

>>123380684
please fuck my gay ass

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>>123374543
>yfw Guts got off the boat before EB2 was completed

Shogun 1 and Med 1 are both on the Steam sale for a couple of quid if you don't already got 'em.

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>>123380919
fuck

>>123380639
I never actully got the ring in a third age campaign before, what happens if you get it? Do you get like some big bouns?

>>123379858
>Not having Lurtz with 20-stack of nothing but uruk raiders and uruk archers

Do you even roleplay bro?

Btw I'm also starting new DaC campaign but having hard time deciding what faction to play.

>>123380684
seconding

>>123380764
I heard it was pretty bad but the dlc model CA went with seems to be the biggest complaint I think I hear about it. Maybe I should just wait until it comes out before asking again?

>>123381059
Eriador or Khand for #fun. Lindon or Dwarves of Ered Luin for utter turtle rape forever.

>>123379858
If possible try this tatic, for orc factions, when i use it atleast it's pretty effective

> wargs/trolls up front
> berserks behind them
> orc raiders and orc bands and the weaker ones behind berserkers
> then urk-kai units behind those
> othalic guard at the back
In a seprate formation farther back
> archers up front
> one unit of orcs or irks
> atillary in the back
Where the general is depends on how good ans what kind , weaker generals I'll but in the back by the archers, generals like lurtz I'll put in the the urks in the forward formation.

>>123378902
No it's up to you to find and ally with the jewts so that the two of you can jew the world.

>>123381059
> Not role playing mordor
> using infinate money cheats and turtling in mordor for 100 turns building up fuck tons of doomstacks
> waiting for the right time when the other factions are all at each others throats
> not releasing all those doomstacks into middle earth wiping our everything in your way
Kinda sad the took out sauron unit in the latest version , he was fun as fuck

rome 2 came out three years ago

I need comparisons

How did arms & armor evolve from attila times to carolingian Charlemagne times?

>>123381050
Everyone hates you, you get the 9 ringwraiths as generals and your uruks get better stats.

>>123383083
check last thread. there was pics of european, japan and china arms and armor comparision up to gunpowder. It was 2 pics if i recall

Should I buy Rome II or Attila on sale? I like both settings.

What DLC is mandatory for them?

>>123383367
Came to ask this.

>>123383367
Rome 2 has a better setting and I'd prefer it to attila, but from a purley gameplay and technical standpoint attila is mIles ahead
If you get rome 2, Get the DEI mod
R2 DEI>Attila>vanilla rome 2

>>123383662
>DEI
>50 skirmishers trying to kill one guy with a buckler . webm

>>123383662
Also attila is MUCH more difficult then rome 2, even with DEI
If it's your first total war then get rome 2 with DEI

>>123383367
Rome 2 was rubbish on release, but they did a lot of work so if you like the time period it might be worth playing

Attila is great, it's my favorite Total War.
I thought it was harder to get into and more complicated than the other though
DLC wise Sandpeople and Longbeards are best for Attila, maybe Celts if you want to be a bong, Viking Forefathers are not too great. I have not played Last Roman

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>>123383083

http://www.mediafire.com/view/w84iplhziirioxi/29393051-Armies-of-the-Dark-Ages.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/view/j0kfj6bwz2occ4j/WAR_096_-_Carolingian_Cavalryman_768-986.pdf

Mail is still predominant sort of armor. A lot of manuscripts show what seems to be scale but there is debate as to if it is scale, artistic license or whatever. There are also depictions of lamellar but it's rare.

Helmets are still largely spangenhelms but some of the first one piece iron helmets start appearing towards the end of the Charlemagne era (9th century). Coifs are becoming more common. You see arm and leg armor widely attributed - Charlemagne himself wearing it on his forearms and 'thighs' while others are noted for choosing not to wear it on their legs so they can better hop onto the horse.

Attila almost suffers from the same issue I have with S2,
Battle go way to fucking fast, unless your on defensive , by the time formations are in place and everything is good to go it's already over, and either your or the enemy army had mass routed usually the former , there no time to think or devise any sorta strategy

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>Tfw your jewish brethren convert to christianity
One more faction for me to remove.

>>123384278
>abu kariba

lol

>>123384349
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tub%27a_Abu_Kariba_As%27ad

Kingdom of Ailech
Duchy of Alemannia
Kingdom of Alt Clut
Angria
Duchy of Aquitane
Kingdom of Asturias
Avars
Taifa of Badajoz
Taifa of Barcelona
Duchy of Bavaria
Duchy of Benevento
Bohemia
Kingdom of Brittany
Duchy of Burgundy
Kingdom of Carloman
Kingdom of Charlemagne
Kingdom of Connachta
Emirate of Cordoba
Duchy of Croatia
Kingdom of the Danes
Eastphalia
Duchy of Frisia
Duchy of Gascony
Kingdom of Glywysing
Emirate of Granada
Kingdom of Gwynedd
Kingdom of Kent
Kingdom of Leinster
Kingdom of the Lombards
Kingdom of Mercia
Kingdom of Munster
Nordalbingia
Kingdom of Northumbria
Obodrite
Duchy of Pamplona
Papal States
Kingdom of the Picts
Kingdom of Powys
Duchy of Provence
Taifa of Sevilla
Theme of Sicily
Duchy of Spoleto
Taifa of Toledo
Kingdom of Ulaid
Taifa of Valencia
Republic of Venice
Kingdom of Wessex
Westphalia
Wilzi
Taifa of Zaragoza

Who do you want to play as most /twg/?

Kingdom of Kent here.

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>>123382914
>playing as gondor on vh/vh
>boromir secures dagorlad
>faramir ambushing orc and haradrim stacks in ithilien keeping the flank clear
>invasion event
>the witch king sets out with his morgul host and lays siege to east osgiliath and fights a night battle
>brothers try to link up and make for cair andros
>fucking hill of sorcery belches forth 3 stacks moving towards cair andros
>mfw
its kinda awesome what total war throws at you sometimes

>>123385278
>The last Jewish king of Yemen was defeated by Christian Ethiopians

Interesting
I always liked Church of the East stuff

>>123385487

Kingdom of Ulaid

ULSTER PRIDE

What DLCs for Attila are worth it?

Thought about getting the last Roman and Celts stuff (do Celts play different or just a barbar reskin?)

>>123386701
All culture packs bar Vikings and the last Roman.
Blood and Burning is essential.

>>123383662
What's so good about DEI? I've never tried it.

>>123386701

Empire of Sand is the best DLC atm, Longbeards isnt too bad either

Last Roman is good if you wanna play as based belisarius and reconquer the west

The Celts are the Hattori of Attila, they can deploy anywhere in the map and can do night battles anytime anywhere

>>123385487
Who /papalstate/ here?

>>123387152

Catholics out!

>>123387412
please don't tell me you are a protestant

protestants are the biggest plebs in the universe

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Poor little Ostrogoth

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>>123387152
What kind of units would they field around this time?

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Will we ever get to play as Australia?

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/featured/battle-long-tan.html

>>123388381
Australia: Total War

Play as Abos, normal people, kangaroos or dingoes

>>123387006
Way to many things to list were changed or improved
> battle and campaign ai
> lots more units added
> more factions added
> the combat numbers were torn down and rebuilt from scratch , and battles usually take around 20-30 mins now depending
> public order and buildings were redone
> added a supply route system

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>>123389187

>>123389187
>>123389357
what

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>>123388381
>Decisive defeat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVXRYlAKI0A&feature=em-uploademail

Important to note for any would-be's here.

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>>123384278
>All these ERE stacks coming at me even though they are at war with the Sassanids and the Huns
Boy they must really hate jews.

>>123389587
Clickhole is a parody site of Buzzfeed/clickbait stuff.

>>123390216
Isn't Clickhole the Onion version of Buzzfeed/Cracked etc?

Those two points from a list I don't klnow just make little sense without context

>>123390502
Yep, as much as Buzzfeed and shit is my guilty pleasure, clickhole is fun to go to to laugh at it all.

How much did Empire of Sand change your Attila experience /twg/? Just got it now.

>>123390816

HOT ARMORED CAMEL DICK

>>123390816
I hear that it's the best Attila culture pack

I plan on purchasing it when I get my shekels next week, I'm glad it will still be on sale then

>>123371654
Russians don't take attrition from winter areas, keep them occupied in your territory for as long as possible before engaging.

>>123390994
There still going to be sale on Christmas right?

>>123390816
I could still tell it was the same game, but the new stuff made it better for me.

Also >>123390950

>>123387571
Barbar units plus a few barbar champions dressed like Romans

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>>123391076

>Russians don't take attrition from winter areas

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>>123386337
LAMH DHEARG ABU

PLANTERS OUT

>>123391090
Yes, I'm sure it will go on sale again during the Christmas sale

Right now it's on sale til December 1st

>>123391485
>LAMH DHEARG ABU

This looks like something out of an obscure African language.

>>123392513
I-It's Irish

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>>123390816
It's the most fun i've had in this game

>>123345304

Problem with putting Byzantines in there is that it isn't their "entire" faction. You'll be playing an independent Sicily with no ties to Constantinople - more or less.

anyone have that image of 'TW meetup'

>>123393012

Which camel unit are those?

I was gonna do a DaC campaign while waiting for EB2 but the new version is like 4 gigabytes and I don't wanna download it

what do I do instead

maybe a rhun campaign in MoS, they're fun as fuck

>>123335294
Can someone explain to me why Christopher Lee keeps being mentioned other than the fact he is based and dead?

>>123397052
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvKRbi2ovDY

>>123394132
Might actually work though, what was left of Byzantine Italy during this time was essentially on its own.

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>>123396184
Armored camel warriors. They rape horses.

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>>123397052

IN BORDERLAND RAIDS

THEY CAME IN THEIR HORDES

RANSACKING VILLAGES

TAKING THE SPOILS

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awright let's do this shiet

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>>123397052

kill urself my man

So in other news, the Sassanids are fucking insane this round. They conquered all of Arabia except for the Ghassanid's mud village, and just finished off Axum.

There's a good chance they'll continue expanding west in Africa (Cyrenaica is already theirs), and they've already entered war with me because of a stupid alliance chain (Varinians > Mauretanians > Sassanids).

How the fuck do you beat cataphracts and motherfucking savarans with Celtic snowniggers?

>>123397052
He is directly related to Charlemagne and looks remarkably like him and was allowed to use his name and household in all official correspondence.

Plus he released an album all about Charlemagne.

Got Fall of the Samurai collection from Steam whilst its on sale.

Recommended faction fellas?

>>123398637
>How the fuck do you beat cataphracts and motherfucking savarans with Celtic snowniggers?
You don't. Bend over and accept your new overlords

>>123398881

Jozai

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>>123398395

Ooh, new traits. we EB now

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>>123398637

So the Geats went and attacked the Roman city of 2500 wealth that I had intended to raid, and start off my conquest of Gaul with.

Instead, I'm going to save my Roman bros (so I can sack them myself later), remove Geatish pigfuckers from premises, and start the conquest of Gaul from the north instead.

>>123398960

I was thinking I could try making a cheese army entirely out of elite Ebdani raiders, but then the Savaran shitters will still probably outrun them, and of course outshoot them.

>>123399078
Traits like that are in Stainless Steel aswell.

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>>123390130
RIP faction heir

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>>123399078

ugh rhun's recruitment needs fixing

the first tier of barracks doesn't give a unit, and the third tier gives like 4 units

man

>tfw can't buy Attila and its DLC's right now.

Oh well next sale is December 22nd. I'll buy it then :)

>>123399487

What's the submod? Or are you just playing vanilla? I forgot how vanilla looks.

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>>123399324

Forget what I said about the Sassanigs expanding at all - looks like they're friends and trade partners with their neighbors in Africa and Asia Minor, and only at war with me and the Huns.

Part of me just wants to help Attila make this retarded world burn.

>>123399058
Why?

I like playing underdogs and they appear to be that... Is there something about them?

So I can grab everything Rome 2 for about $25 or Attila for $30


which one should I go for?

I havent been following them for a while now. Is Rome 2 good now? Are DLC for it worth it?

Have to say the upcoming DLC for Attila looks great but is the core game good?

please guide me I dont know what to do

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>>123399487

Look at this shit. I only get one shitty unit at the tier 1 ranges, but the next one, I get 3 more units. Rhun's roster is hella bloated.

>>123399560

MOS nigga

>>123399750
Well the next sale is December 22nd. So buy one now and the other next month?

Depends on the historical time you prefer. Roman era or post roman era?

>>123399853
>MOS
Do you have super PC or are suffering through those 3 min AI turns?

>>123399721

Underdogs. Good campaign location. Can get more guerrilla units than the others. I think they get some agent bonuses too.

I like their colours too. But Tosa will always be my favourite, the red coats are just too good.

>>123400304

I alt+tab for like 30 seconds

I dunno how all y'all are getting these long-ass turn times

>>123399750

Attila is the best vanilla TW to date and is miles better than Rome 2. The era however is subjective

So if you love Rome 2's setting, go for it

If not, go for Attila


I say go for Attila even if you like Rome 2's setting more

>>123400307
Sounds good. I'll give them a shot.

Cheers mate.

>>123400676
thanks
I like both the settings really so I'll go for attila

as for DLC, are there any useless DLC?

I'll probably buy all the culture packs. is last roman one good?

>>123399750
If get Rome keep in mind that the best DLCs are Caesar and Hannibal. The others are pretty shitty tbqhwyf.

>>123400919
Just to note, the culture packs only unlock the factions.

If you're not going to play a faction, owning the DLC is pointless. The AI still gets all the new units and shit whether you own the DLC or not.

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>Mfw a bunch of the campaign map shots on the Grimgor trailer show Azhag the motherfucking Slaughterer
Aww
fuckin'
Yissss

'E r e
W e
G o

>>123400919
Last Roman is okay. I wouldn't recommend it if money is tight.

The must have DLC is Empires of Sand. Beyond that is just preference. Some people think Blood is required, but I hardly notice the difference. The Celts are good too if you're interested in playing as them. Longbeards aren't necessary, in my opinion, as they're even more German barbars. Vikings is the worst.

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>mfw rhun gets eight (8) different cavalry units

can you say bloat

goddamn

>>123399750
Rome 2 was shit at launch, but they did work to fix it.
If you like the time period you might enjoy it.

Attila is great, my favorite Total War.
It's more difficult and complicated to get into compared to other Total Wars though, so I don't know if I would recommend it as a first game in the series.

>>123400919
Sandpeople and Longbeards are the best culture packs, Sandpeople being the better of the two.
Celts can be fun too, they are sneaky fuckers on the battlefield. Viking Forefathers are not very good, and the units are in the game to exterminate, you just can't play as them and there is really no reason to.

Last Roman is a fun campaign if you want to reconquer old Roman clay as Belasarius, but it's not essential or the main reason you are coming to Attila

Karl DLC is coming out soon

>>123400919
It's garbage. Don't buy any of the culture packs, they only add the ability to play as the factions. They're still in the game.

>>123400919

All of the DLC are good except for the vikings, empire of sand being the best out of the bunch

Last Roman is okay if you love justinian/belisarius

>>123401314
Isn't Rhun supposed to have a great start economically?
I only just started playing

>>123400919
Get the desert kingdoms culture pack at least. Viking forefathers are the most useless faction pack which i'd suggest avoiding unless you really want to start from scandinavia.

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>>123401191
Woah epic

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>>123399672

The Geats actually had a lot of men concentrated around Burdigala, and the enemy forces here will double due to reinforcements. What I'm mostly worried about, however, is my skirmishers firing into my own men if they can't get a good line of fire onto the enemy.

>>123401173
I'm not that anon, but which of the Rome 2 culture packs are any good?

>>123401314
>chaos gets 2 (two) different cavalry

I can't wait for sanic speed loading

Steam sale has cut down Last Roman to 5 bucks. Worth it?

>>123401380

yeah rhun is one of the easiest factions in the game, along with harad

>>123401508
As far as I can remember right now, they are all pretty meh. So unless you are a sucker for a specific culture you don't really need them.

>>123401649
Would you like to play as Belasarius and reconquer Rome from the barbarians?

>>123401649
If it interests you, yeah. It's pretty fun. Nothing spectacular though.

>>123401780
Do I have to get keked as I play?

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>>123401678
I started my first game with Gondor thinkingit would be the easiest

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>>123401386
>>123401375
>>123401364
>>123401326
>>123401236

thanks guys

>>123401887
I think you can avoid it, but why would you want to? Don't you want to lick the delicious Chad cum out of your wife's pristine vagina?

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>>123401236
Nigga, blood is essential.

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>>123400756

Tosa is great because of their extra naval bombardment range. It means you get to call in off-map bombardment in a lot more battles.

>>123401464

We stand eyeing each other across the river, and I harass them with my skirmishers. They take heavy casualties, and, enraged, their general himself leads the charge into our lines.

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>>123401937
Ha we actually got that idiot to buy all the dlcs for that broken piece of shit game

>>123401937
I hope you have fun anon!

I really really like Attila, although it took me some time to get into it.

>>123401937
The wisest decision you ever made in your life my friend. I reccomend you preorder warhammer while you're at it, you get chaos as a pre-order faction!

>>123402124
It's just shit ai family the AI can't feel any emotions

>>123402187
>>123402223
>>123402227
stop confusing me assholes
I literally havent been checking TW games for years and want to get back into it

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Suebi campaign up and running. Going to try beat vh/vh grand campaign, staying in migration throughout and winning with a vassal empire.

Already made Hiberia my vassal after liberating them, and currently razing roman cities to fuck with the other hordes and keep them from taking over nice cities.

>>123402454
Attila is pretty alright, though you'll probably have some problems with the provincial system and the general-only armies if you've played older TW games. Also agents can be a pain in the ass in the newer TW games. I would honestly suggest just getting Attila and one of the culture packs (I recommend Sands) and see if you like the game first before getting other DLC during the sale.

>>123402454
Attila is the best Total War ever made, beaten only by the upcoming Total War warhammer. Buy all the DLCs. You won't regret your decision my friend.

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>>123402454

ignore em

Attila is great

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>>123402454
>mixed

>>123402454
Don't let Sassanids grow too big if you decide to start from the eastern side of the map. They are almsot as big of a threat as the Huns are at that point

>>123402454
Attila is great, as I said earlier it's my favorite Total War.

As someone who's not very good at video games I just thought it was harder than the previous Total War games.

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>>123402584
Thanks Mr. Marketer

>>123402837
>>123402837
>steam review
>shits on empires of sand while defending radious

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>>123402837
Thanks to free weekend and complete morons

>waaa all DLC is inherently bad, everything should be free

>>123402454

They are just memeing, Attila is by and far the the best total war in terms of features, mechanics, and challenge.

>>123403223
>if you like a Total War game in the Total War general you are a marketer

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>>123402124

The battle of the Garonne is a great success. We lose nearly two full units of spearmen, and more than half of one of our skirmisher cav units, but it's almost a complete route for our enemy.

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>>123369058
I KNEW IT IT WAS THE FUCKING GERMANICS ALL ALONG AHHHHH

>>123402454
Did you buy it?

I-I shed the blood of saxon men

>>123404118
yeah base game + sands

>>123404489
I'm hype for Karl der Grosse to be honest