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/bwg/ - BioWare General #884 (old /dag/)

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Psychopathy and Autism edition

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BioWare General Thread:
>New IP, Dragon Age, Mass Effect, Jade Empire, Star Wars KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Baldur's Gate, waifuism, and etc.

News:
>MASS EFFECT: ANDROMEDA leaked details
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1144160
>Dragon Age: Magekiller comics out next week!
>Neverwinter Nights and Baldur's Gate 60% off on GoG.
>DA:I on sale on Origin like usual.


Dragon Age shit:

>Check THIS before asking questions:
http://pastebin.com/5dazGqUA

>DA:O Mods
http://pastebin.com/UFaZuPsv

>How do I import my save into DA:I?
>http://www.dragonagekeep.com
You can use this website to create your own DA World History by bringing over your choices from the previous games. You need an Origin account.

>Where is my Warden?
Shitposting.

>Yar I'm a piratefag, help me break the law!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzqpBc4MrAMXY0h3NGh1dVduYmc/view
http://daitools.freeforums.org/save-game-editor-t421.html

>/dag/ (incomplete) Art Archive
http://dagnaart.imgur.com

>/dag/ booru
http://dagna.booru.org/index.php

>Help me /bwg/, I wish it just died!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnkuKddg1YU

Friendly reminder to be strong for mother.
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>>123554474
miranda loved you the moste
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c(´・ω・` c)
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How do you want your franchise senpai?
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DAILY REMINDER to spot and ignore psychopaths
>Psychopathy is traditionally defined as a personality disorder characterized by enduring antisocial behavior, diminished empathy and remorse, and disinhibited or bold behavior.
>Boldness. Low fear including stress-tolerance, toleration of unfamiliarity and danger, and high self-confidence and social assertiveness.
>Disinhibition. Poor impulse control including problems with planning and foresight, lacking affect and urge control, demand for immediate gratification, and poor behavioral restraints.
>Meanness. Lacking empathy and close attachments with others, disdain of close attachments, use of cruelty to gain empowerment, exploitative tendencies, defiance of authority, and destructive excitement seeking.
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>>123554735

Just politically correct my shit, familia
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>>123554735
c-can you make my choices matter?
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In his life Hawke truly loved only Varric, but they weren't destined to be together — he had to escape from Kirkwall. When he returned, he resumed his relationship with Varric, but his beloved drowned during a walk through the Storm Coast.
Hawke decided to resurrect Varric. He carried a baby by himself and gave birth with the help of blood magic. He raised the boy, calling him his son. He mentions the child's prototype, Varric, as Hawke's father. With age, Varric Jr., unawared of his true origin, begins to resemble the deceased more and more, and Hawke begins to re-experience the unforgotten feelings. Throughout his maturation Varric begins to experience a vague feeling like the memory of a past life. He accidentally meets up with the mother of real Varric and very vaguely recognizes her.
Hawke feels jealousy of suddenly appeared Varric's girlfriend, Bianca, who also stayed at their home, but being both a lover of Varric and his father, he can not speak openly about it. The growing tension in the family puts everyone on the verge of insanity, and the girl eventually goes away, and Varric demand an explanation from Hawke. Finally, he shows him a piece of red lyrium with the images of former Varric. When he learned that he lives a second time, Varric is going through the shock and misunderstanding of what he is and who is Hawke for him. At first, he pounces on him in an attempt to hurt him, but this impulse turns into a passion, and they make love. Soon Varric feels able to understand everything, and, saying only "thank you", leaves his home, and Hawke realizes he is pregnant again.
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>>123554895
If that choice is kill all white cis men, then yes
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>>123554972
thank god
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>>123554735
Stay the FUCK away from ME...
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>>123554712
(´・ω・)つ(・(・Kneading tits
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Solas morning, /bwg/.
>>123554735
Add more elvhen lore please.
>>123554793
I'm glad I don't know any people like that, sounds tiresome.
>>123554814
>>123554895
>>123556003
Stupid memesters.
>>123554972
Um sorry but some of the most important Dragon Age charactres are white and cis, so it's not going happen.
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Why kill /dag/ in favor of /bwg/?
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>>123556489
there was a poll, you should have woken up earlier.
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>>123556489
Because /dag/ is pretty much out of Dragon Age material to talk about and nobody who likes Dragon Age even posts here.
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>>123556003
Don't worry senpai. I trust my friends at the ME team to make a safe and progressive game on their own. After all, the only place more progressive than a fictionalized medieval world is our own world hundreds of years into the future
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>>123556783
>they employed some friend of Jennifer Hepler to write for ME:A
Things are looking up indeed.
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>>123556783
buxom blonde human women........
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>>123556865
Um... /dag/ likes Hepler...
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>>123556952
Speak for yourself
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>>123556952
Only dwarf-fags who forget that she didn't write the dwarf noble origin, and Andersfags.
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>>123557113
Damn, she wrote Sebastian too. He was boring as shit.
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>>123557113
She wrote the dwarf lore, Paragon of her Kind w/Kristansjon(who should've taken over as lead desu, he's fucking great), Anvil of the void, and I think but I'm not sure that she wrote most of the chant of light. I liked her and don't think she deserved being bullied out of the job, that whole thing was as immature as the whole "ME3 ending raped me" fiasco
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>>123557453
>She wrote the dwarf lore
I'm not sure about this, I don't remember who exactly did it though so it might have been her.
>who should've taken over as lead desu, he's fucking great
He's either working on the new IP or has been kicked out, kind of sucks since he's probably the oldest Bioware writer left in the company.
>I think but I'm not sure that she wrote most of the chant of light
Pretty sure that was Mary Kirby.
>I liked her and don't think she deserved being bullied out of the job, that whole thing was as immature as the whole "ME3 ending raped me" fiasco
Can't say I liked her personally (her stuff was either too boring or too stupid for my tastes), but yeah, the whole thing was dumb because it's not like if she was personally responsible for the fiasco that was Dragon Age 2.
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>>123557675
>Pretty sure that was Mary Kirby.

Yeah it was.
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Alright guys, I want to play through the expansion packs for NWN with a single character. What's the best build for most enjoyment? When I played the OC I always felt like I was missing out on something. I first tried a dwarf warrior but he kept failing persuasion checks and wasn't very fun to play as. I tried a mage focused on necromancy but he kept getting one shotted. I tried a rogue but she was awful at combat and there's so many trash encounters that it got very boring to play. I've pretty much given up on the original campaign now but I want to play the expansions as I've heard they were good. What's a good class, race and build for that? I want to be a steaming hot elf who can both talk her way out of trouble and still be able to deal with the combat in a fun manner.

The two classes I've considered is either playing as a paladin or as a bard. Would that work? Any suggestions at all would be most welcome.
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>>123559303
Spellcasters are kind of shit compared to fighters in NWN, so avoid bard. I'd say go with paladin if you have trouble with dying and persuasion checks -- they're sturdy, have high CHA and persuade asa primary class skill.
> I've pretty much given up on the original campaign
Can't say you're missing out.
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hello...
how are you...
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>>123559990
Shut the fuck up.
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at least i can say that i've tried...
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>>123556486
Good morning! Another day, another Solas.
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>>123559632
I've never played as a paladin before. Anything special to keep in mind? What should my stats look like and what's the best race to pick? What feats are good? I'm not used to RPGs giving me so many options.
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>>123560471
Nice to see you, vhenan.
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>>123560471
>>123560569
Pls go away, faggots.
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>>123556489

Because we can now legally share our swtor stronghold lifestyles.
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>>123556893
In a Bioware game? Never. Ever.
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>>123560523
>Anything special to keep in mind?
I don't remember if that feature is present in the OC, but you pretty much can't steal anything in the expansions because that gives you chaotic points and a paladin must stay lawful good. You generally have to be consistent with your alignment in dialogs too.
>What should my stats look like
At least 16 charisma, about 14 strength and constitution, 10-14 wisdom (depends on how much spellcasting you're planning to do). Intelligence is the least important for a paladin, I think. You can get it to 9 or something. Charisma and strength are the most important stats, look out for items that increase them as you play.
>and what's the best race to pick?
Human is probably the best for any class because of extra skill point bonus, but I think an elf or a half elf would work too since they don't have a penalty to their charisma. I know half-orcs have it for sure, not sure about dwarves.
>What feats are good?
I remember that feat that adds a bonus to your attack based on your charisma being useful, there's also a bunch of extra undead turning stuff, but I can't remember their names off the top of my head. There are a lot of guides for pretty much every class though, you should check those out. Blind fight is useful for any class though, I always take in NWN and NWN2.
>>123561310
That doesn't look like a buxom blonde to me.
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>>123560471
>>123560569
>The time between the posts is exactly the time you have to wait until imagesamefagging + uploading an image of that size
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>>123561372
>That doesn't look like a buxom blonde to me.
That's because it's a character from a Bioware game. I don't think there is a single one fitting that description.
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>>123561372
>I don't remember if that feature is present in the OC
Nope, nobody cared when my greedy dwarf ransacked the plague ridden houses while the coughing dying occupants looked on with teary eyes.
>You generally have to be consistent with your alignment in dialogs too.
This is good to know.
>>123561372
>At least 16 charisma, about 14 strength and constitution, 10-14 wisdom (depends on how much spellcasting you're planning to do). Intelligence is the least important for a paladin, I think. You can get it to 9 or something. Charisma and strength are the most important stats, look out for items that increase them as you play.
This is super useful, thanks!
>I remember that feat that adds a bonus to your attack based on your charisma being useful,
This sounds overpowered, didn't notice anything like that while making my other characters, is it high level one or something?
>Blind fight is useful for any class though, I always take in NWN and NWN2.
Will do!

Thanks for the help, hopefully I will be able to have fun now. Playing the early OC several times was a drag. Especially the second time around. Hopefully the expansions are as good as people say they are.
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>>123561479
>being this delusional
Stop shitposting.
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>>123562018
He's probably right tho. Stop samefagging, faggot.
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>>123562018
Just step your samefag game up, that was whack.
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>>123561856
Well, Shadows of Undrentide is nothing special other than some funny moments with Deekin, but it's still worth playing because your character carries over to the next expansion. Hordes of the Underdark is really good though even with the dated visuals, you can see a lot of Gaider in the setting and the plot.
It's been a while since I played them, sorry for not being more specific.
>>123562474
I don't even know wtf is a whack.
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>>123561547
Pretty much every Mass Effect girl gets boob and ass implants between 2 and 3 (other than Miranda who already had them), can't get much more buxom than that.
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>>123562786
Blonde women aren't allowed in Bioware RPGs though, they're too pure and hot.
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>>123562875
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>>123562947
She's a lesbian though. They would probably have put her in a wheelchair too if they thought that they could get away with it. See, a normal healthy blonde woman is heresy and goes contrary to the "diversity" agenda they have, therefore they need to need them some sort of negative so that they don't have as much "privilege" as normal women have. It's only alright as long as she's dysfunctional.
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>>123563113
She was also a dumbass
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>>123563113
>need to need them
Need to GIVE them.
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>>123562875

Uhm, calpernia... or whatever her name was...
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>>123563207
Retard you mean, yeah. A mentally deficient dyke.
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>>123563242
Who?
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>>123562786
In ME2, Miranda literally had the biggest breasts in the galaxy.

In ME3, Liara, EDI, Ashley, and a bunch of NPCs outclass her.
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>>123563242
>this
>buxom
>>123563312
Wow rude.
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So Bioware games have a reputation of being dating sims with action or RPG parts mixed in, but does anyone of them feature a romance that you don't initiate but rather your partner does? One where you can't just end their advances and they simply will keep trying to make you fall in love with them? Or are they all just power fantasies where the player always have complete agency over everything?
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>>123563534
>Wow rude.
But it's true.
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>>123562947

Yeah blonde elves are allowed because they're still coded as PoC.
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>>123564320
Ayy llamao
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>>123564320
>giving Aerie normal person hair
Blasphemy.
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>>123564513
>>123564562

You're right her hair was messed up. It's been so long since I've played BG2 I didn't even realize it.
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>>123564293
>does anyone of them feature a romance that you don't initiate but rather your partner does?
Baldur's Gate 2 -- you can't initiate conversations yourself and everyone hits on you because of that. It also has some catfights if you happen to be a male human, elf or half-elf because the elf girls desperately want your dick.
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>>123564790
>It also has some catfights if you happen to be a male human, elf or half-elf because the elf girls desperately want your dick.
Sounds hilarious. Do they accept rejection, or do they leave your party if you don't pick them? I always thought Bioware made it way too easy to friendzone characters.
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EYM...
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>>123564293
i want a game that does that. now i'm sad. does one exist?
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>>123565625
Fuck off.
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>>123565625

I guess she has basically forsaken Bioware games. Her asspain over DA:I ended her fandom.
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>>123565883
>Her asspain over DA:I

oh damn, i missed it. last time i checked on EYM like a year ago she was still playing it. what happened?
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I've not even tried Inquisition yet, how does it compare to TW3? Thinking about giving it a spin after I'm done with Bioware's older games. Is it really a singleplayer MMO like people say it is or is there actually a good game in there? Heard stuff about timers also that worries me, does it waste your time in any way? I'm not sure I've got the spare time for a game that doesn't respect the time I invest in it. So please, tell me how it is.
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>>123565784
>does one exist?
I don't think so, anon. Sorry.I suppose some dating sims might actually fit the bill but eh.
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>>123566075
Sidequests are all uninteresting but you need to grind power points to advance in the main story and won't get enough of them without cheating to progress in the story without doing said shitty side quests. At least the environments are pretty.
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>>123566327
that's a shame. i kind of understand why Bioware doesn't do it, because there's no doubt that someone, somewhere, would bitch about how ~problematic~ they think it is, but i'd really like it.
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>>123566478
This is pretty far fetched. Not all the side quests are uninteresting. Some of them are. But you'll be focused on leveling up and trying out new abilities and armor before you start thinking anything is boring
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>>123566478
Fug, Bioware games used to be pretty much free from grinding. How's the main story then? Is the villain good? Does it have lots of twists and turns? Is it something to write home about at all?

I love pretty environments but that alone probably isn't enough to keep me playing. I suppose I ought to ask how the combat is but from what I've seen from gameplay videos it seems pretty bad. Cooldowns, skill trees, over the top skills, no real tactical camera...
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>>123566719
Which are interesting in your opinion?
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>>123566821
The main story is rather standard. There is some time travelling if you pick the mage path, that's about the only memorable thing. The combat gets tedious fast if you insist on playing on nightmare or something because of all the damage sponges, which makes the repetitive nature of the combat just too prominent.
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>finally get Trespasser cuz its on sale
>mfw my dwarven male inquisitor sprawled out on the couch during spa
muh fuckin dick families
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>>123567739
Post your hottie
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>>123556003
ME team has Mac the Hack as the creative director. Hope you like your vidya RGB
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>>123566609
Is there anything that they don't find problematic?
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>>123568071
This is worth watching:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16AHDT4POZc
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>>123568707
I haven't been following ME personalities, who's worse -- Mac Walters or Casey Hudson? I've seen more Casey jokes on /v/, but maybe that's just because he's kind of funny looking.
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>>123568860
Casey, Mac is a hack but also a pushover and isn't responsible for the worst things in ME.
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>Patrick Weekes @PatrickWeekes
>I guess this means I don't get to cut codex entries in future Dragon Age content.

>codex entries
>future Dragon Age content
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>>123567739
pics pls
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>>123569082
Reminder that Weekes argued against a quest log in ME3 and is responsible for the useless list we got.
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>>123568006
>>123569119
getting a new GPU on cyber monday, pls no bully
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>>123569003
Didn't Mac write that Kai Leng pissing in plants novel though?
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>>123567557
Uegh, I hate time travel plots. Seems like DAI just isn't for me.
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>>123569404
Oh god
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>>123569404
nice
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>>123569404
He's a reaver with a big axe. Yea yea cliche high fantasy dwarf
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>>123569798
Why so solo, m8? Where're your buddies?
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>>123569798
want to h*** his h***...
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>>123569928
oh its after the last fight so they faded away I guess
I run Varric, Dorian, and Cass/Blackwall tho
Btw does it seem like the new horn of valor upgrade is crazy OP? Basically a lifesteal aura...
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>>123570729
Who is you're waifu, by the way?
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>>123571123
Surprise!
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>>123566075
You already presuppose that Inquisition is shit, so I doubt you'd like it.
>>123566609
I remember reading an interview with some older devs (Gaider or Laidlaw) and they talked about how they think that initiating dialogues yourself instead of having companions approach you (like in NWN or BG) allows for more player character freedom. Besides, I've seen more regular gamers and not sjws as you seem to assume get made at Leliana and Liara falling in love with your player character for not good reason.
>>123567739
>>123569404
I don't understand how anyone could possibly find that stupid looking swimsuit erotic.
>>123569082
>content
>not games
I'm still not hopeful, lethallin.
>>123569372
He's also responsible for you getting to say goodbye to your waifu.
>>123569659
>cat
>unshaven man
Ugh!
>>123569798
Nice colors in this pic.
>>123571123
>Alastair
Which Dragon Age character is this?
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>>123571007
well in the game I romanced Dorian but I'd rather Oghren to be quite honest
humans, elves, qunari all a shit
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>>123571642
i kind of implied sjws but i was also thinking of all the dudes who got mad about Anders and Zevran hitting on their male characters.

got a little annoyed with Leliana myself because no matter what i always unintentionally start romancing her when i just want to be her friend and talk about cute shoes.
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>>123571642
I don't understand how anyone could not see the sexual appeal of wrestling singlets.
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>>123572080
She's not a homosexual male.
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>>123572327
Why is she even doing here?
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wich dorf do you wanna get pinned by???
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>>123572403
*What
Someone should start to sleep well...
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>>123572080
shitposting and pissing everyone off
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>>123569537
It's just one small quest... Its not even a big deal.
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>>123576509
That's a flattering angle for him tbt
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>>123576549
He looks good from every angle.
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Jacob...!!
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>>123554474
Magekiller is out Dec 16th.
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>>123578489
k
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Alright, /bwg/, potentially stupid question coming through, please no bully. I started playing BG1 and is there anyway to get your party to move faster? It feels like 98% of the game so far is walking from point a to point b (but admittedly, I'm not very far) and it's a total snoozefest.
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>>123578091
why would you call for that cheating fuck
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>>123577571
His head looks like a guitar chip.
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>>123579462

Movement speed never bothered me. You could cheat and give boots of haste to every character which would double their move speed.
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>>123579462
BG games aren't like Planescape where you can toggle running, looking for boots of speed is one of the challenges of the games. I don't think you can even find enough of them to give a pair for everyone in the party until BG2's ending though.
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>>123580284
>>123580982
Alright. Thanks guys.
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>>123569082
He could just have said games but he chose not to.
See ya...
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>>123576509
How did that get on his head?
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>mom kicks me out of the living room and invites people over
>can't play dragon age
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>>123582235
>Doesn't even have its own computer
>Shitposts 24/7 with its mom around
Fuckn kek
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>>123582235
uhmmmmmm........
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>>123582352
What else did you expected from her?
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>>123582020
By getting put into the helmet slot in the inventory menu.
>>123582235
Cum here Vhenan, let me give you a huggle.
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I hired a hitman from the dark internet to take care of all solasposters irl. It's over soon.
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>>123583443
You're the saint, anon.
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>>123583443
It's a good thing He watches over us from the astral plane?
Fen'Harel enasalin.
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>>123582352
I play DA on a console. I'm on my rig right now.

>>123583096
>tfw no Solas to give you a hug.
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>>123586043
>tfw you sit on your hand until it's numb and then hold it with your other hand and pretend that you're holding hands with Solas
I'd give anything to touch him, if only for a moment.
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>>123586494
that's not good for your hand
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>>123586585
I don't give a fuck anymore.
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>>123586676
Please lethallan, you need that hand to meet Solas again.
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>>123586494
How ugly does a girl have to be to reach this level of loneliness?
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To the continuation of a great franchise!
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>>123587410
*likes* *links friend* hahaha ikr
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my ass
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>>123587194
I guess you're right, vhenan, gotta keep if together for Fen'Harel.
>>123587309
Fuck you.
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>>123587309
Not her, but I'm a shitskin and white girls seem to be throwing themselves all over my people while asians throw themselves onto white men so...I can't compete nor do I want to.

Would rather stick with 2D that never betrays me...oh shit. SOLAS COME BACK.
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>>123587565
*licks you*
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can you please go back to regular shitposting? this is getting depressing
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Do you think Kim Jong-un is a fan of Jessica? I think he is
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>>123587830
Literally nobody cares about NK.

>>123587806
This is what happens when you make a bwg, when its other games have their own generals.
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>>123587701
I think you're just ugly, you smell, and/or have poor social skills
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>>123587701
Not even your 2D husband wanted to stay with you and you even made your 2D self white.
>>123587914
But this was already happening before the first /bwg/ resurrection.
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>>123587701
I'd give you a hug irl, no homo.
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>>123587962
That's the usual response, "there must be something wrong with them and that is why thye don't get approached like bees to honey!"
People always want to make it someone else's fault to hide the faults within their own environment.

>>123588046
Always so kind just like Solas.
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>>123587701
Sounds like a whole lot of excuses. The reason you don't have a BF is that you don't go outside and keep posting here about a fictional and not even good character.
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>>123588357
<3
>>123588607
>not even good character
Objectively wrong.
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>>123588607
And then there's the internalized racism highlighted by her "ideal" self being pale as a ghost.
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>>123588357
I would argue that the usual response is for people to blame their own hardships/issues on the environment or society rather than admit truths about themselves. ex. "Why should I lose weight? It's society's fault for saying I have to be thin."

Unrelated but did you intend to make your Inquisitor look like that? Is there a story behind it? Was it born premature and just never developed?
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>>123588913
I read that in his voice and how it makes her cry. That was funny.
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>>123588907
do you really think >>123588357 is anyone's idealized self, kiki
really
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Who is /losttheirfaithinhumanity/ here?
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>>123588913
Skin color and prejudice and being a deluded lardass are quite different things I'd say, but that's not video games.
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>>123588913
>I would argue that the usual response is for people to blame their own hardships/issues on the environment or society rather than admit truths about themselves.
It is much harder to reasonably blame society, it is way to large and it would sound completely absurd for someone to say, "it's society's fault that showers need to be had" etc. That is why they turn to personal attacks and assume there must be something wrong with the immediate. It's a nice way to derail the fact that attraction these days has a lot to do with the current trend.

>Unrelated but did you intend to make your Inquisitor look like that?
Yes, my objective was to make what I deemed perfection. I altered every part I could touch and fit it to my tastes.

>Is there a story behind it? Was it born premature and just never developed?
No story since I don't think it an abomination. Funny you say that because I was actually born 3-4 months premature.
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>>123589662
Why did you give her any eyebrows though?
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>>123589751
I felt it took away from her being. It covered her personality, and restricted her from fully expressing herself. I wanted her face to be clear and in view at all times.
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>>123589969

I hope your shaved your eyebrows off irl too? That will get you all the solas you want irl.
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>>123590193
I'm nowhere near as beautiful as my quizzy.
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bring back the gays
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>>123590193
>That will get you all the solas you want irl.
Stop shitposting, Solas isn't real.
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>>123590362
Hold my sides, /dag/. I think they're going to fly away.
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>>123589565
Hue.. are you the one that made this for me?
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>>123589662
>That is why they turn to personal attacks and assume there must be something wrong with the immediate
Only when people blame society for their loneliness. As you said it is too large and varied to reasonably say that everyone within that society is not willing hang out with you because of social conditioning/prejudices against your race. Are their issues with society regarding prejudice, race, etc.? Yes, of course. Is that sole reason you are lonely? Probably definitely not.

>>123589603
Plenty of people who face adversity from segments of society because of their skin color are not lonely because they find others within that society that are not so prejudiced.
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>>123590587
>Solas isn't real.
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>>123590754
Nah, just a suitable picture from /dag/ folder.
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>>123590546
Gays?
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>>123590362

I know. But if you shave them off, you will be a step closer.
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>>123590870
Not yet.
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>>123590841
There's no social conditioning or prejudice against my race, nor do I have problems with that.
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>>123587701
You're pretty (from what I saw), have great skin and hair, and you're slender. You shouldn't have any problem at ALL finding guys.
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>>123591246
Then why do you believe you are lonely? Unless you're a different solaswife this>>123587701
made it seem like you don't think it's your fault you are lonely but other people's.
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solaswife selfies...?
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http://strawpoll.me/6117093
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>>123591412
>from what I saw
You mean that 7-8head and boy hair?
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>>123591964
That is me. I was initially being cynical and sarcastic, but I blame myself for everything besides sex and attraction. I don't wear makeup so I stay ugly (if it would even make a difference), I can't hide my melancholia well and it makes me very tired, I allowed myself to become an introvert and stopped going outside after i lost all my friends due to other people. That's all I can think of on the spot. I can't say I haven't tried, I exercised and lost weight, got haircuts, was nice, showered everyday, but nothing seemed to change in the romance department and maybe that was my personality, something I don't even understand myself. I gave up after a while and keep to myself unless they are course mates and I like to offer people help with their assignments.

I've resigned myself to dying alone and a failure in all except video games. Cheers.
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>>123592412
There's no self-imposed-social-exile on that poll...
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>>123593039
>Playing BW games
You failed at even that
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>>123593094
right, should have added mental problems as well
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>>123592412
Being single is no one's fault. Being lonely is your fault.
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I want /r9k/ to leave...
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>>123593209
I play more than just BW games.
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>>123592795
Her forehead wasn't even ayylf-tier and her hair was up, not in a guy's hairstyle.
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>>123593323
What if you don't really feel lonely except for when you think about a fictional character?
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>>123593380
My hair was cut short into a tapered style.
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>>123593441
Then it's god's fault that they're not real
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About to do a baldur's gate series playthrough because I haven't done one in like 8 years. I want to min max the shit out of it and go full cheese because I was not into minmaxing then.

I have a berserker cleric as the protag and was thinking of adding a kensai/mage because that is the only other cheese class I can remember. Kensai/thief looks much better for ToB.

Any other very cheesy class combos? And is there a good guide for using spell casters properly, this stuff is patchy all over the place mostly in old forums with heavily biased rants rather than information.
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>>123593495
Post it on the booru.
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>>123593604
>tfw could have lived your life contently without realizing what you're missing
>fall in love with a bunch of pixels instead and feel profound sadness because they set impossible standards for actual people
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>>123593906
>>fall in love with a bunch of pixels instead and feel profound sadness because they set impossible standards for actual people
No. We fall in love with pixels because they are always within our reach and never truly leave.
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>>123593773
>was thinking of adding a kensai/mage because that is the only other cheese class I can remember. Kensai/thief looks much better for ToB.
Kensai/mage has time stop, kensai/thief has OP traps, depends on what looks like more fun to you. You can always have all three, though it gains XP so slowly it's only possible to play if you go solo.
>Any other very cheesy class combos?
Ranger/cleric.
>all druid spells
>all cleric spells
>can wear plate unlike druid
Fighter/thief/mage multiclass is also quite cheesy but has the same slow leveling problem as kensai/thief/mage.
>And is there a good guide for using spell casters properly
I don't know of one, http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/258273-baldurs-gate-ii-shadows-of-amn/faqs/11334 seems to have a good rundown of the spells but it doesn't really tell you how to play one. Just buff yourself up before every fight, learn which spells strip other mages' defenses, and enjoy your contingencies, time stop, alacrity, and deva summoning later on?
>>123594284
>they are always within our reach and never truly leave
They don't truly exist or have any capacity to respond either unless you try to summon them in dreams.
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fuck off with the bwg shit
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>>123593339
/dag/'s got to go.
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>>123595279
>>123595306
you're tearing me apart anons
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>>123593906
I'm sure you could fund an ugly bald guy that wants to commit genocide quite easily...
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How do we save Bioware from the SJW, /bwg/?
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>>123596241
We stop buying Descent dlc
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>>123596203
Let me know if you find any...
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Eva Braun was the first solaswife. Discuss.
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>>123596898
>Solas was rejected from art school and now he ruins every wall he finds with his shitty paintings, also wants to commit genocide
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>>123596898
But she was actually hot irl.
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>>123596898
The Shemlen Question...
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>>123597926
He looks so hot in this picture.
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Women. Am I right?
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>>123598673
Wrong.
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we're all gonna make it
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And you all thought /bwg/ was a good idea

I warned you...
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>>123599703
>Having enough life and soul within you to collect shit from stuff you like
Still normie
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>>123599824

There is literally no difference...
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purity
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>>123601693
RIP in peace sweet prince...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAiw2SXPS-4
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>>123601693
It's hot for a man, but hideous for a woman.
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>>123593223
yeah you can't leave that out, i would have picked it too.
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>>123602508
Looks like slim Weekes.
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What fucking language is this
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>>123603190
What fucking book cover made in medieval times looks like that?
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>>123603327
Um... DA isn't reality...
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angels...
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>>123603878
>>>/bsn/
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>>123603190

I want to know why it has what looks like a five star review sticker on the front but no words that might explain where the five star review comes from.
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>>123604460
It's just an advertising gimmick.
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>>123604047
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>>123603327

Pretty sure the first edition of Chaucer's Canterbury Tales looked like that.
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>>123611146
Does that elf even have any muscle tissue?
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>>123611759

In her neck maybe.
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>>123611146
What the fuck were they thinking with those designs?
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>>123612046

I dunno but I'm sure now they look at them and think "this was a mistake". Sort of like what Hawke looks to be thinking in that pic.
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I can't wait to go to Tevinter and slay some Qunari.
I also am looking forward to flying cows and fashion.
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>>123595026
>>123593773

So I was trying to keep it to 3 PC's so I was thinking Berserker/Cleric, Kensai/Mage and Archer/Cleric. Very strong tank that can dish out a lot of damage, an incredibly high damage melee with spell cheese and a druid/cleric with great auto attacks.

The only thing is that during BG1 this leaves me with good tank/dps, good dps with no armor and a good ranged. Should I add in a fourth that will round out the team early and late in the series or fill in with NPCs?

Also I just realized I don't have any good thiefing. Are warrior mage thieves good and is there any benefit to just doing mage thief other than faster leveling?
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>>123612830
Flying cows?
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>>123615407
>didn't talk to Dorian
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>>123615695
It's been since early January aside from dlc, man. I remember a lot, but forgot quite a bit too.
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>kill maxson for his jacket
>danse will no longer speak to me
>not even one exchange referencing me betraying the bos
>forever standing in sanctuary, mute
b-bravo...
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>>123616034
Dorian confirmed they had flying cows in Minrathous but without wings.
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None the wiser.
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>>123621023
Is this traced from a female animu character?
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So is Dragon Age inquisition actually fun? To be honest, I am very surprised that there is an active general on /vg/ for Bioware games considering their general reputation across 4chan. Never posted here.
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>>123623090
DAI is shit. DAO was mediocre. BG 1 & 2 were great. KOTOR was okay. JE was fun. NWN was a good mulitplayer game and had a great toolset.
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>>123623090
DA:I is fun as long as you refrain from critiquing it as you play.
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Do anyone else here feel weird about David Gayder? I mean on one hand he's an okay writer, he made some cool mods and at times it seems like he genuinely cares and that it's just not a job for him. But on the other hand he's an outspoken radical anti-white gay supremacist who writes awful eroges for lonely teenage girls. It seems like they're hardly even the same person. Is the braindead librul spiel just a persona that he has adopted to become more popular and increase his job security or has he changed incredibly much over the years? Is the writers department at Bioware a henhouse where they turned him into their gay pet pig or something? Whatever happened to him?
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>>123623982
I don't see what's wrong to writing content to appeal to one category of your audiences, although I wouldn't say it's for "teenage" girls, but women in general.
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>"Bioware General"
When the fuck did this happen? I've missed so much
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Alright guys, it's time to wave goodbye
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>>123623090
personally, i liked it more than 2 (not that that's hard). there's a lot of stuff to do, but sometimes it feels like a single player MMO because a lot of the quests don't really have much impact on the main plot. if you like post-EA Bioware games at all then Inquisition is pretty good.
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>>123624295
>but sometimes it feels like a single player MMO because a lot of the quests don't really have much impact on the main plot.
Anybody who likes exploring and/or "questing" wouldn't have a problem with this at all. I know I didn't, I'm used to it. It's how I was getting 100% on maps and quests in WoW. Inquisition was nothing compared to what I used to be doing.
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>>123624096

We're inviting disaster is what we're doing.
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>>123624082
It's nothing wrong with it by itself but he seems to think that games with tumblr approved writing and trash romances are somehow better for it. He used to write fun stuff that wouldn't have been out of place during a PnP RPG session but nowadays he writes awkward yaoi and bishounen romances whilst wearing problem glasses and I'm not sure if he has noticed the change himself. He might be a victim of the trendy nerd culture or something.

I doubt any girls who have matured would go for his stuff except the most desperate of outcasts.
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But it isn't just his recent work that is troubling me, just check his twitter feed where he defends radical muslims after the Paris attack because it's on the feminist agenda because of reasons. Or how about the disdain and contempt he quite openly shows for fans who don't like his creative output or don't agree with his agenda. He used to be a very apolitical geek but now he's a radical, he used to be a chill dude who could take critique and banter on forums but now anything he doesn't fully agree with trigger him. Has the little fame he's gotten gone to his head? I just keep wondering why he went sour.
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>>123596241
I think we both know the answer to that.
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>>123625730
Can you give me some examples of his tumblresque content? I do not know anything about tumblr.

>I doubt any girls who have matured would go for his stuff except the most desperate of outcasts.
Mature girls want to get splitroasted by African Americans or catered to like 50 Shades of Grey.
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>>123627558
Anybody going to tell me what the fuck happened to her face?
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>>123625730
>>123626850
I'd get more bitter and snarkier the more I had to interact with fans too, everyone probably does so that's not entirely unexpected. When you're in a position to just tease people who you consider to have dumb opinions with a large fanbase and company that would support that, wouldn't you do the same thing? It's immature but it's gratifying in a small way. Either way I don't see the point in getting all hung up on a writer's social views: out of Cassandra, Morrigan, Alistair, Zevran, Fenris, and Dorian probably only Fenris and to a lesser extent Dorian would qualify as an awkward YA romance and that's like 15 minutes of 15+ hour games.
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>>123627942
this >>123627558 is triss, also a piss
this>>123627942 is a model based on a porn star or something made by an outside studio that does cinematics.
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>>123628124
this looks nothing like that mutant eye popping face she has in DA:I
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>>123627558
>Can you give me some examples of his tumblresque content? I do not know anything about tumblr.
Everything that he types or that comes out of his mouth. He's an social marxist, an incredibly destructive useful idiot among many that are destroying what's left of the west through corruption of academia, media, politics and culture. He wants homosexuals to be a protected class free from criticism of any kind.

This is the climate he wants to help grow in the video game industry:
http://heterodoxacademy.org/2015/11/24/the-yale-problem-begins-in-high-school/
It's pretty much already the case.
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>>123627558
Some of us just prefer the Pious templar shit.
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>>123629705
I just don't have enough time in my life to stress over what a few individuals are saying about politics or social topics, I've stopped really caring about any of the social movements going on. It's like a great weight off my shoulders. I highly recommend apathy.
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>>123629705
Yale students act that way? What a shithole. That shit doesn't even happen at CCs.

But if he's doing that I don't know what he's thinking. Victimhood is the worst because it also fails to compensate the actual victims. Nevertheless, that's a damn shame.
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>>123627990
>immature but it's gratifying in a small way. Either way I don't see the point in getting all hung up on a writer's social views
It's not his politics, not really. It's the personality change. He might have been a revolutionary commie before for all I know but he never made a huge fuzz about it. Now he's just spouting leftist buzzwords when he's not fawning over dick. He used to be just another geeky missfit but one of us y'know? Now he's just an asshole.
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>>123629705
>trying to force the redpill on /tumblrgen/
Your efforts are probably wasted
>>123630625
It very well could have been influenced somehow from being under EA?
The whole fucking world seems to be brainwashed these days.
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>>123630576
Yeah, he's been doing talks about how awfully hetero and toxic masculine the video game industry supposedly is. I'm pretty pissed off about it because I'm gay and I don't like that it is so political. Why would we need a "safe space" if we're just normal like everyone else? Why wouldn't it be just as okay to offend my sensibilities as someone else's? And so on. I fucking hate identity politics. Just because I love cocks doesn't mean I'm a liberal faggot.
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>>123630625
You probably don't really know his personality to say there's been a change. He wasn't active enough on social media back in the day to come to any sort of conclusion

>>123631034
>EA Brainwashed the gay nerd who basically invented gays in modern AAA games
Do you truly want to know how far this rabbit hole goes?
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>>123630557
Glad you're back. Wise words.
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>>123631034
It all started when EA bought Bioware now that you mention it. They were also the ones who wanted DAO to be an edgy game for kids who like silly amounts of blood instead of catering to the old DnD crowd like they planned to from the start. "This is the new shit" indeed.
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>>123631283
>He wasn't active enough on social media back in the day to come to any sort of conclusion
He was very active on forums though, and much less of a flaming homo. He was actually pretty insightful and interesting back in the day.
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>>123631252
I feel ya man. I'm not a guy but I've been playing games since I could walk. I never saw anything wrong with them or their writing. The main characters were always cool or interesting. I never cared about straight guy characters doing straight guy things. At the end of the day that was just the character needed for the plotline and nothing else. They pretend as if there was some sort of hidden agenda to every fucking video game. Their only purpose was for the player to enjoy it.
At the time being homo or females in certain positions weren't though of, but who cares. Things change over time, there's no need to force ideals through stories or characters where they don't belong, and while I'm not saying I wouldn't like to see female protags or maybe a homo in a story, there's no need to retrofit every single game. If it happens it happens if it doesn't it doesn't. But when you force things there will always be consequences.

And yeah I never understood why homosexuals were always a sensitive subject. They stress trying to integrate them into society then are flamboyant about how special they are, so now people give you strange looks or want to have special talks about you coming out of the closet. Who the fuck cares?
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>>123631575
Idk about your dnd experiences but my GM has always loved having a dark twist on his storues and loves to flesh out the gory details. Looking back on DA:O it actually feels like a pretty good visualisation of a dnd campaign
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>>123631575
Just play Demons Souls desu
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Guys. Let's just put all the straight men on an island chain with each island for each race and throw all the women in vending machines spread across them. That way they can focus on philosophy and kekoldry or whatever they think about and let the women out when they feel like it. The gays get the mainland because I hate the beach. There, I've solved all social conflict. Where's my peace prize?
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>>123632030
what
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>>123632030
>the_gays_win_again.png
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>>123631283
Links for wholesome education please.
>>123632030
N-no thank you.
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THIS is what happens when you make /bwg/

I warned you...
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>>123630557
Apathy is exactly what the social Marxists want from you. They want you to lose faith in every system that keeps society together so that they can easily tear it all down. That's gramscianism 101. They promote homosexuality, promiscuity and hedonism in general to destroy the family unit, a source of stability. They corrupt your language and destroy words so that you no longer can properly express yourself or your thoughts clearly. They undermine religion so that social unity and cooperation is lowered. They even want to ruin your day dreams. Fiction is these days not about how good of a writer you are but how "progressive" what you write is. Art is also corrupted, artistry and talent is rejected as subjective concepts. Every cultural institution is infiltrated with these people.

And so on and so forth. By losing faith in politics you've already let them win.
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>>123632281
Accept your new gods.
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dag, you there?
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>>123632527
Wonderful, the pillars are crumbling. Soon we will strike a final blow, ensuring the new world order and you and your ilk will be... obsolete.
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>>123631745
>And yeah I never understood why homosexuals were always a sensitive subject.
Because the gay mafia don't want you to discuss it. Sodomy is an unhealthy practice for anyone and gays are very promisculous so they spread disease.
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>>123632927
Fen'Harel free us...
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>>123632927
The final goal is communism but there aren't any real commies left to do the revolution so we'll just forever slide further into decadence and insanity.
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>>123633021
rude
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I wish vhenan-chan was here, she'd save us...
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>ywn be the Fen'Harel of the gays
You guys know where one can find elvhen orbs?
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>>123633263
LETHALLAN, I SUMMON THEE.
I PLEAD, ANSWER OUR PRAYERS.
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>>123633351
I've got two big orbs for ya right here, boy ;)
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>>123633351
Let me know if you find a source. Maybe they'll have more and give a group discount.
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*puts on my sad female brit voice*

What's going on here?
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>>123634132
RUN WHILE YOU CAN

WARN ZEM
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>>123634481
ZUMBODY HEL ME
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Which Bioware game has the most fat hairy males?
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Oh boy...
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>>123640979
>she uses mounts
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>all these romances in DA
>can't play because gameplay feels so fucking boring
Even ME was more fun despite I don't like shooters in general.
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>>123641725
>Not playing the game with new perceptions each time and fresh experiences.
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>>123640979
>bog unicorn.
>think I'm going to get some magical flying unicorn shooting rainbows or some shit
>get some shitstained horse with a huge nail through it's mouth
For fucks sake
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>>123641993
Um, what?
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hello...
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>>123645552
it's me...
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>>123630557

Same tb|-| except I have the time. This is simply what happens if people live in peace for too long. WW3 will put an end to this.
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>>123645854
I was wondering if after all these years you'd like to release a fucking game.
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>Patrick Weekes @PatrickWeekes
>Me: I could make a Twine-based dating sim where you romanced reptiles & amphibians.
>@Mike_Laidlaw & @BioMarkDarrah: ...
>Me: For example.
But we already have Mass Effect, Weekes...
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http://www.biowarestore.com/viewall/result/sale
A big sale, m8s
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>>123647483
All shit
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>>123636937
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>>123640979
Why the fuck did they make the horses so big?
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Solas morning, page 10.
>>123612830
Me too, vhenan. Tevinter also used to be the heart of the Elvhen empire, so I imagine it has a lot of ruins full of lore to explore as well.
>>123613990
I'm not sure about archer/cleric because you won't be able to use a bow, and bow proficiency is pretty much the point of an archer.
As for thieves, they're pretty useful in BG1 (especially in Durlag's Tower which is full of deadly traps), their usefulness lessens in BG2 because you can shrug everything off. However, you also get super OP traps in ToB. So I don't know, just taking Imoen or something for special areas might be enough.
>>123616108
Instead of doing
>open console
>click on him
>showinventory
>get ID of the coat
>player.additem coatIDgoeshere 1
, you killed an innocent 20 year old for fashion. Danse is just ashamed of you.
>>123623090
This is Bioware General though?
>>123623264
>DAI shit
>DAO mediocre
Shitpost harder.
>>123623982
>an outspoken radical anti-white gay supremacist
What's the source for that? I could understand complaining about Weekes being 'le sjw', but Gaider has never said anything of the sort. Stop parroting /v/ and fuck off.
>turned him into their gay pet pig
Dorian was literally the first time he spoke about his gayness openly and he hasn't done so since. I don't understand all this hate for Gaider when you could go bitch and moan about characters like Steve or swtor's gay island or that newest AC game that are actual pandering instead.
>>123624238
Vallem enasal, vhenan.
>>123625730
>yaoi bishounen romances
Jesus wept, use more buzzwords. Yeah, those Morrigan and Cassandra sure are fully yaoi desu.
>>123626850
Literally the only Paris-related tweet he retweeted (not posted) is this
>if only we had a seasonally appropriate story about middle eastern people seeking refuge being turned away by the heartless
How is this "defending radical muslims"? Fuck off to /pol/.
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>>123627990
I once read somewhere Something Awful forums that he's very awkward and shy irl and kind of smells of cat piss. I guess that easily translates to appearing haughty.
>>123629705
>asked for proof
>EVERYTHING HE SAYS
>posts some unrelated /pol/ material
Yeah, nice shitpost spree.
>>123631742
>He was actually pretty insightful and interesting back in the day.
He also posted his own personal Carth fanfic and complained that they didn't have the time to add a bisexual Haer'Dalis romance. Some of the posters in this thread make me wonder if you only became familiar with Bioware after DA:O and just imagine everything before that as some perfect nostalgia land with no 'pandering to womyn' or whatever.
>>123632030
Nice shitpost. Masturbate while posting harder.
>>123632527
>le redpill shitposter straight from /pol/
>also posts anime
It all makes sense now.
>>123632907
>>123633392
I'm here now, vhenan.
>>123632927
Spoiler this shit.
>>123633263
Well I'm glad I wasn't there in real time because shitposters make my blood boil.
>>123633351
What does this even mean?
>>123634132
It's not sad, it's anxious.
>>123639108
Probably swtor because it actually has more than one body model.
>>123640979
>All New, Faded for Her
S-stay strong, vhenan!
>>123641725
So don't play? Literally nobody is forcing you to do anything.
>>123647483
>the only Solas related stuff is T-shirts
Lame.
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Who's idea was it to have fucking gender neutral hair? Does it really cost that much resources to make seperate hairstyles for both genders instead of having shitty hairstyles for both
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>>123652637
>>123652730
Pls start to use a trip so I can filter your posts easier.
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>>123639108
None, the only fat ugly hairy males around are the devs.
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>>123653426
You can already see that they struggled with the hairstyles we got (bald spots everywhere, the same base with sideburns used in styles that shouldn't have them, awful meshes, etc), giving each gender 5 styles or making unique meshes for even worse hair would have made the CC look unprofessional.
>>123653472
I only make about 10-15 posts a day, it's not hard to make two clicks to hide them.
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>>123653828
It is hard. So please do it.
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>>123653943
Learn to deal with it, kid.
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>>123653828
They offend my eyes, I wouldn't have to see them in the first place if you just tripfagged. We all know who you are anyway so you might as well.
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>>123649872
Fanservice.
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>>123646465
Will you fight in WW3?
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>>123652637
>>DAI shit
>>DAO mediocre
>Shitpost harder.
Does your bottom hurt when you read truth like this? DAI is Bioware's worst game by far and Origins with the exception of the origins themselves was a very bland game. It was certainly not as good as BG2. I think it was due to development troubles and the fact that their not-dnd system was too inspired by MMOs and wasn't very fun to engage in

The initial concept for Origins was great, early previews showed a lot of promise but they really botched the execution. Major themes such as the mage stigma was not handled well at all and all the xlocks weren't much different from orcs when it came down to it.
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>>123652730
>>posts some unrelated /pol/ material
>Privilege bullshitz
>Unrelated /pol/ material
You can try to bluff that you know shit about him but have you actually listened to his talks?
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>>123654737
Those early Dragon Age screenshots look like shit desu. The characters look like they belong in some cartoon and not a dark fantasy game
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>>123646465
Actually it was arguably WW2 that fucked the west to begin with. While tumblrinas and plebbit still live in the colonial ages the west isn't what it once was. Recently we've gone into full self destruct mode. Not even when sandniggers kill a hundred or so civilians it is still not enough to awaken the population. The Jews would love a WW3 but I hope that the few sane men left don't let it happen.
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>>123654974
It wasn't supposed to be a grimdork 2edgy4u game at that point, It was meant to be the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate 2. You know, Bioware's best work?
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>>123654223
I don't think any DA fans lust for oversized horsecocks, that is just gross.
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>>123654251

My usual k/d in shooters is just barely above 1.0 so I suppose I will wait it out in a bunker.
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>>123655326
>It wasn't supposed to be a grimdork 2edgy4u game
But that's part of what makes Origins so good compared to the other much lighter sequels
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>>123654124
Well your shitposts also offend me but you don't see me begging for you to get a trip.
>>123654737
> DAI is Bioware's worst game by far
It's not even the worst game in the franchise.
>It was certainly not as good as BG2
Where did I ever say anything about BG2 in particular? I'd never argue with anyone that it's not a timeless classic with an excellent mod community that will likely will never get replicated no matter how Bioware tries. However, BG1 looks more generic and is less fun than Icewind Dale, Kotor1's story doesn't really hold up by today's standards, NWN OC is worse than DA2 in terms of it being absolutely pointless, ugly looking and bland (all your henchmen get killed off and your expansion protagonist outright c.ucks Aribeth from OC protagonist).
>The initial concept for Origins was great
What, generic Faerun adventure? Please. The only source of "initial concept of Origins" at this point is concept art which makes Alistair older and gives Isolde a balcony or something.
>Major themes such as the mage stigma was not handled well at all
It was introduced well in its quest but it was never meant to be the main focus of Origins.
>>123654876
I only follow game news that have to do with games so I haven't listened to any podcasts about misogyny and privilege in gameing or whatever, do share if you have a link to some relevant ones.
>>123655326
That literally looks like NWN2 with slightly updated graphics. I don't understand you people who complain about Origins being not original or unique enough and then go on to indirectly jerk off over probably the blandest Obsidian game.
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>>123655606
If you ask me that was one of the worst things about DAO, visually it was awful and it was all so try hard in a such an immature manner. The constant blood splattered all over the characters made me cringe. I don't mind a realistic portrayal of a pseudo medieval society, the rotten teeth was a good thing in a world building sense but pretty much everything else was much more goofy than any D&D antics could ever be.
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>>123655809
>all your henchmen get killed off and your expansion protagonist outright c.ucks Aribeth from OC protagonist
based Gaider
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>>123655809
>That literally looks like NWN2 with slightly updated graphics.
It's just an upgraded version of the aurora engine. Didn't the release version of DAO also run on that? They've used the same engine but with upgraded an renderer since BG1, the first game not to use it was DAI which used frostbite.

Anyway, I prefer high fantasy flamboyant designs to the utter trash that was DAO's art direction.
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>>123655809
>It was introduced well in its quest but it was never meant to be the main focus of Origins.
Actually it was meant to be a huge part of the gameworld. Read some early previews. They just completely failed at actually delivering on their initial ideas.
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>>123656131
You get a gay kobold bard companion though, one that is Gaider's self insert. Surely this makes up for it.
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>>123655474
W R O N G
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>>123656326
>It's just an upgraded version of the aurora engine. Didn't the release version of DAO also run on that?
Yeah, Eclipse or something. I'd say that art direction matters more than engine, just look at how different NWN2-MoTB (highly mystical atmosphere all over the place -- glowing trees and dream realms, etc.), The Witcher 1 (aims for realism, very well designed environments that have a folk tale feeling), and Origins look.
>Anyway, I prefer high fantasy flamboyant designs to the utter trash that was DAO's art direction.
I actually agree with this, and that's one of the reasons why I think Inquisition is better than Origins.
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>>123655809
>probably the blandest Obsidian game.
While it does have some engine problems the art direction was very good, especially when compared to Origins. "Bland"? Why do you lie?
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>>123657187
Meant the OC, obviously.
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>>123657051
>The Witcher 1 (aims for realism, very well designed environments that have a folk tale feeling)
I still think TW1 is the best looking RPG I've ever played, it's just so incredibly atmospheric and beautiful. Even more so than its sequels, they really hit the nail on the head art direction wise.
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>>123657372
I think the OC still have some merit but yeah, Justin Cherry knocked the ball out of the park with MotB. Even if the OC is inferior I think it is above Origins. Maybe not by all that much tho. The godamn wizard hats in Origins is enough to put it behind Drakensang and that game had a truly generic art direction, but at least there were proper wiz hats ffs.
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Speaking of art direction, am I the only one that thinks that Matt Rhodes is shit? He's a faggy SJW and likes Disney films way too much sure, but I just think he is really bad at design and drawing. Was he originally just a regular tumblr artist or something before he got hired?
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>>123658147
Well, NWN2 OC has some pretty atmospheric areas, I can give it that. However, it also has the fucking endless ork and hobgoblin caves, and Obsidian clearly ran out of time to complete some maps in the final act of the game. Origins feels much more polished. And I liked the dumb hats and slutty mage outfits, it's a shame they abandoned them
>>123658881
He's not a tumblr artist, he's worked with Bioware since Jade Empire. I don't like or dislike his designs, but Nick Thornborrow is a better concept artist in my opinion.
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>>123658881
Agreed. His art is awful and disneyesque. I blame him for there not being any good looking or realistic looking armors in DA games
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>>123659261
>Obsidian clearly ran out of time to complete some maps in the final act of the game
The project was a complete trainwreck, it's amazing that it got released at all. Josh Sawyer just barely managed to pick up the pieces and get it through the door before they had to cancel it. That's why a lot of things are half baked, like Neeshka's romance and a bunch of other stuff.

From what I've heard NWN 1 was an even worse disaster, they worked on the engine as the same time as the game and were really bad at communication so they continously scrapped content as they worked on the engine. The final campaign was thrown together in like a month or so at the end when they had things more finalised. That's why the expansion packs are so much better.
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>>123659553
Wasn't he responsible for the goofy helmets that the inquisition troops wear? I wish they would get a new art director.
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>>123659917
I wish a new dev would take over the DA franchise entirely
CDPR
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>>123659261
>but Nick Thornborrow is a better concept artist in my opinion.
Better? He's miles above Rhodes.
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>>123660116
I'd like to see a Japanese dev team make a DA game. Maybe P Studio? Team Ninja? From Software? Imagine the waifus.
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Is Jade Empire any good?
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>>123661117
No.
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>>123659768
I know they struggled with NWN2 and there's a ton of cut content, but it still doesn't give that absolutely half-assed feeling DA2 does. God bless Avellone and Sawyer.
>>123659917
He also designed that shitty dlc armor with the intention of it becoming 'iconic'.
>>123660116
I don't know, from the way they talk about Cyberpnk, it seems like they're really glad to be done with fantasy.
>>123660521
Dawn of the Seeker: the game?
>>123661117
The combat is pretty different from other Bioware games, but it's pretty good.
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>>123662683
I'm really looking good forward to see how Cyberpunk 2077 turns out, although I'm sort of tired of cyberpunk RPGs already. I'd much rather see a proper hard science fiction RPG or one set in a completely non-standard setting. Like say an historical setting like ancient Babylon or Carthage. Heck, a modern one would be pretty cool. Alpha Protocol was neat.

There's so many possibilities. Anyway I'm just happy that they aren't just going to make another fantasy one even if the Witcher series was good.
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In DA:I can I use the Mirror of Transformation as many times as I like? There's small details of my character's appearance that are driving me crazy
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>>123662683
>Dawn of the Seeker: the game?
Pls no, anon, why did you have to remind me of that?
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>>123658881
>Was he originally just a regular tumblr artist or something before he got hired?
He's been with bioware for years, so no.

I'm pretty sure Don Bluth has been way more of an influence on him than the Glen Keane style disney has been using for like 20 years now. His style is cartoony but it doesn't look like anything disney.
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>>123663527
Yes you can.
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>>123663446
Have there been any cyberpunk rpgs? I can't think of any.
>>123663527
Yes.
>>123663749
If I have to suffer random Qunari fucks channeling Fen'Harel and Felicia Day preventing a prototype breach from opening, I'll at least make others feel shame as well.
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>>123665180
>>123665396
Thanks
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>>123665396
Godamn Rhodes a shit. Why did they choose him the be art director?
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>>123665958
His art's not terrible, his style is just not what people have come to associate with the sort of dark fantasy genre Dragon Age falls under.

I just scrolled through his tumblr expecting stuff like tumblr nose from the way the thread was talking about him, and I'm honestly not finding anything terrible. >>123665396 looks old in comparison to his newer stuff too, so that's not exactly fair.
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>>123665396
There has been three shadowrun games recently released and Do Sex is sort of an RPG. There's also been a bunch of cyberpunk platforming games with RPG elements.
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>>123666318
>his style is just not
Fit for any fantasy RPG. Not even lighthearted fantasy games like NWN had such an faggy style.
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>>123662683
>He also designed that shitty dlc armor with the intention of it becoming 'iconic'.
This is a huge fucking problem with Bioware. Same thing as when they design companion outfits with the intention of it becoming cosplay. It's so fucking forced. Just design practical but good looking armor for fucks sake
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>>123655967
I didn't mind the blood spatter. You can also turn it off can't you?
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>>123663749
WHY did they have to go with that kind of shitty animation for that movie? It could have been so much better.
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>>123665396
>Yen and Ciri on crack cocaine
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>>123663749
Didn't Bioware passively declare that non-canon by having Cassandra say that what really happened has been exaggerated or is that just something I've conjured up in my head?
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>>123669702
Cass downplayed it but that's just something that she would do. Her boyfriend from it is canon at least.

>>123667852
Nowadays most of their armor is practical, at least compared to Origins.

Morrigan still wearing the same outfit ten later is stupid though.
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>>123667852
>Just design practical but good looking armor for fucks sake
>Wanting a game that caters to toxic while male shitlords
Why do you want to scare away their 90% majority female audience just to make your whyte mail power fantasy feel more macho?
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>>123671303
>most of their armor is practical
Maybe, but it's ugly. It can be both practical and good looking. Like in Witcher 2 and 3
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>>123666993
What's so bad about it? If you don't like more cartoony styles I guess I can see why it isn't your cup of tea, but I don't know what's so offensive about it. It reminds me more of something I'd find in a comic book than in a disney movie.
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>>123671609
It's pretty in concept art but falls flat in the game itself, which is something that's common with almost every other form of media.
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>>123671679
It just reminds me of tumblr comics way too much. If he aped say early Thorgal comics or any of the heavy metal/metal hurlant artists then I would have approved but there's something off about his work that doesn't sit right with me. Maybe it's how effeminate all his characters look, maybe it's because it's too clean or maybe some other reason. I don't really know since I'm not an artist myself but his concepts just look cheap and dumb to me.
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>>123672215
Agreed
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>>123672215
Well you just have to remember cartoons have been around long before tumblr was ever a thing and, given Rhodes' age, it probably had absolutely no impact on how he developed his style.

This is what the average tumblr artist puts out nowadays. Rhodes doesn't really come close to it.
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>>123671303
>Nowadays most of their armor is practical, at least compared to Origins.
Actually they are hilariously impractical, but then so was every armour in Origins and most fantasy armour in general. The Witcher games actually have fairly decent realistic armours though but those are exceptions to the rule.
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>>123671584
Because of muh sekrit club meme
There should be a balance of masculinity and femininity (unless the game calls for one or the other with set protags) but some people can't handle the idea of content that caters to their female fanbase and exaggerate.

They also don't realize the idea of making the fantasy seem attainable. Aka not forcing people to spend hundreds to make steel armor and kill themselves walking to conventions im it. If you niggers want to LARP medieval shit they have separate places for that. Don't force it in video games and don't force tabletop in video games. They get their own genre and physical game items for a reason. To separate it from video games and make it its own game and its own unique player base.
Don't combine them as if they are one and the same.
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>>123672738
That picture is really disgusting.
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Which is strongest in DA:I, Archer or DW? Which do you think is more fun?
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>>123672738
Why does people who can't draw upload their stuff to the internet? This is one of the most awful things I've seen for quite some time, what the fuck, is that Morrigan? Is it meant to be grotesque?
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They make armor and such found ingame realistic within reason. You don't have to aspire to super-realistic portrayal of medieval armor and weapons as the setting itself isn't realistic.

If your story is set in literal 13-century England, then you should make it as realistic as possible. If it's England-esque Ferelden, it doesn't matter as much. But stray too far from your base inspiration and it starts to look ridiculous.

It shouldn't have anything to do with cosplay though. That's silly. What percentage of gamers actually participate in cosplay? What percentage actually go to conventions? It is a really low proportion. One thing I do definitely hate is not being able to customize your companions equipment and appearance.
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>>123674248
They can draw but they've fallen back on some crutch techniques that have been popularized by tumblr, like the randomly colored animal-like nose and the red ear tips.

Usually I can give a pass to the whole tumblr nose thing because I get it, noses are hard as hell to draw and you can't wait until you're perfect to start putting your art out there for people to see, but I really have no fucking idea what the artist was trying for here.
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>>123674503
>artist
>>123674456
I don't know about that, anon. I think there's something to be gained by realistic portrayals of things in fiction. It adds richness in my opinion. Like hollywood hacking vs realistic hacking on film and such I appreciate if the creators know their subject matter and don't just bullshit their way through it all. Some amount of realism can also add a lot to the story or gameplay. If you take into account that there's no gravity in deep space or that the distances between stars are fuckhuge you get another story or game or whatever than you would have if you just didn't. Now I'm not saying that realism should always take precedence over drama but that entertainment doesn't have to be stupid.
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>>123676131
I didn't say they were a good artist.
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>>123674082
DW rogue has some potential, but it's only fun in late-game when you get AoE daggers and gear that prevents you from dying in two hits.
I like archer a lot better, it has some really high damage with all specs and you can craft yourself some cool bows. Some people think it's boring though since you just have to stand in one place and click a button.
>>123674248
I checked out that person's deviantart and it's full of Naruto, Undertale and furry shit. Fans of those generally have no taste whatsoever.
>>123674456
I think that one of the reasons why Inquisition outfits look a bit dumb at times is because they reuse assets from Origins (Morrigan, some mage outfits) and 2 (a whole load of them) and mix this new 'modern hipster clothes with spikes' (most inquisitor outfits, Leliana, Sera, etc.) aesthetic for no good reason and end up with a complete mess. Mass Effect had a similar problem.
>>123676364
>implying that she said anything wrong
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>>123676462
They did inject some headcanon in there, like them being a mother and having to ask Flemeth for help for something.
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>>123676131

> realistic portrayals of things

I'm talking strictly about armor and what characters wear here. Not about gravity or distance between stars. And I'm only really talking about fantasy, though some of it applies to sci-fi too. I hate the way in Mass Effect 2 the other squadmates walk around in their normal clothes, even in brutal environments.

All I am really saying is you should aspire to realism, but not feel strictly limited by it. I'm mostly complaining about cosplay being a factor in character design. I hate Bioware's erection for cosplay.
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>>123676608
>Shepard has to wear a helmet
>Miranda just has to wear a gas mask thing that covers her mouth and nose
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>>123676364
>tumblr nose
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>>123674248
Those colors hurts me on physical level.
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>>123676938
The character's angry so it's justified in this case. A rare example.
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>>123676608
>I'm talking strictly about armor and what characters wear here.
I just think it is an interesting subject and one that video games actually misinform people about a lot. Reality and history is just so much more exciting to me than heavy metal inspired goofy outfits to the extent that proper armour in video games gives me a stiffy.
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>>123676364
Why don't tese tumblr cunts play The Sims instead of they want a family simulator?
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>>123677261

You should be agitating for more stories set in real-life places like medieval Europe rather than trying to force fantastical locales like Thedas or the Sword Coast to conform strictly to real-life history.

But I don't think we disagree strongly here. Probably just a matter of degree. I like realism too, I'm just not as dead set on it.
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>>123677261
I hope Nevarra has stuff like your pic if we ever get to see it.
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>>123677086
Your nose turns red when you're angry?
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>>123677467
I wasn't necessarily speaking about DA or BG but generally regarding armour in fiction. I would love more historical games but even so I do think medieval european armours have their place in fairy tale and mythological inspired games since that's the environment where that came to be. I don't much care of the warped American retellings of our stories. Romantic fiction and works inspired by it needs the historical environment to work I think.
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>>123677904
>care of
care for. Sorry.
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>>123677594
Yes? Your entire face can turn red when you're blushing, which can be caused by anger.
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Some of the DA:I armors were a step up. I really liked what Gaspard wore, though it was a bit retarded that he showed up to battle wearing his masquerade mask. They're not up to Witcher-tier designs yet though. I can't see Rhodes ever making something like pic-related
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>>123677565
I think the one thing that Bioware is consistently good at is to completely underwhelm in the execution of good lore. All the stuff we've seen so far sounded very interesting on paper but was very dull to play and see for yourself. I mean even in the first DA the fade sounded like a really cool thing, that is until you actually visited it yourself.
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>>123678654
To be fair they were a lot more limited back then. The Fade in DAI was A+, but that's just my opinion.
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>>123678654
I will never forgive them for the terrible disappointment that was Val Royeux. I mean for fucks sake if you're gonna make dozens of big open worlds you can at least make the city one of them. Did we really need three deserts?
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>>123678845
I found it just as dull as in DA:O but eh, I found all of DAI to be really boring.
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>>123679003
>one of the largest cities of Thedas
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>>123678453
I thought TW2 had 10/10 outfits, but they're really meh in TW3. I think they replaced the concept guy with some other guy or something. Radovid wears Roche's coat with different sleeves ffs.
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>>123679003
Bioware either cannot or does not into cities. Their strength obviously lies in building more nature-filled environments.
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>>123679291
It's like they hastily added it last minute because fans requested it so much. All the scenes taking place there could have happened in different places
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>>123679596
Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 has some of the best cities in any RPG. But I suppose they're not really the same company anymore.
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post yfw you realized bioware peaked at ME2
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>>123679596
Yeah but at leats Denerim had the illusion of being a big city with buildings in the horizon. Walk up to the upper levels of Val Royeux and you can basically see that's it's just landscapes surrounding it all like here >>123679291
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>>123657051
>The Witcher 1 (aims for realism, very well designed environments that have a folk tale feeling)
Why does the first witcher feel so comfy? I wish Bioware's games were just as atmospheric and comfy to play.
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>>123677594
Yours doesn't?
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>>123679826
BG2 is actually really similar to DA2 -- you have a a big city in which most of the story takes place (Kirkwall and Athkatla) and a bunch of wilderness areas.
It's really crazy how one Bioware's '2' game is probably one of the best RPG's of all time and the other is well, Dragon Age 2.
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>>123681327
It's all about execution. With BG2 they could produce a lot of content very cheaply and had some good talent on the team that knew what they were doing. DA2 was originally an expansion pack for DA:O that got out of hand and they had to introduce a voiced protagonist and all sorts of stuff on a tiny budget in a short time. They were designed in entirely different ways too.
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>>123676364
>words words words
Is this done ironically or not? Not going to read that drivel.
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>>123680792

>That place looked worse in TW3 than it did in 1
I was a bit surprised
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>>123679867
They actually peaked with the Neverwinter Nights OC, that right there was peak Bioware.
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>>123682434
That's classic Bioware; "real" Bioware. I fear modern Bioware will never be as good as ME2 was, or even come close.

The focus on characters and world building, that episodic TV series feel, the Jack Wall and co. soundtrack, the fucking suicide mission... wipe my memories and let me play it for the first time again...
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>>123680792
>I wish bioware games were witcher games
Why cant people accept that they are two different games?
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>>123677904

Yeah I don't really agree. I believe Medieval European armor and clothing does exist in "warped American" fantasy, it's just not 100% perfectly accurate. And I don't believe perfect accuracy is a necessary or even desired goal in fantastical settings.
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>>123682837
>That's classic Bioware; "real" Bioware.
By peak Bioware I meant that it was awful. The Baldur's Gate duology was their pre-EA peak. After they started to focusing on consoles and got bought by EA I think the first Mass Effect is their best game. Had a better soundtrack than the later games and felt more inspired in general. ME2 felt way too claustrophobic and on rails for my taste, also didn't like how edgy they tried to be, the change in tone was pretty sharp. It's still better than any of the Dragon Age games and ME3 though.
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>>123682991
>I believe Medieval European armor and clothing does exist in "warped American" fantasy
It doesn't really, to the completely ignorant observer that may seem to be the case but it truly isn't. What most americans consider to be "generic medieval" settings and drapings in media couldn't be further from the true medieval reality. They're so distant from each other that they're completely separate things.
>it's just not 100% perfectly accurate
It doesn't have to be "perfectly accurate", just being more realistic than a chainmail bikini would do wonders for verisimilitude.
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>>123684304

They're close enough. But of course everyone has their threshold for "realistic enough". It is obvious that for you the bar is very high.

> chainmail bikini

Bioware has been abandoning those for some time now.
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Do daggers do more damage than bows in inquisition? I just wanna kill shit but archer feels kinda boring right now
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>>123683154
I personally prefer ME1 because of its tone and atmosphere, but I think ME2 is the better game. ME1 has more charm but it's also uneven and janky. Take away the shooting and driving mechanics and you realize they basically made a sequel to KOTOR. The real shame about ME1 is how much potential is there, and seeing where they had to make cuts to actually get the game finished. Like how on Noveria most of the main objectives have multiple solutions that you can choose to do. But literally no other missions in the game you options like that. It's just bizarre.

ME2 felt like they were trying to push themselves further, while keeping what worked best from ME1. They fucked up on the oversimplification of things like the inventory and the removal of uncharted worlds (rather than trying to improve these things), no NPCs to just chat up, some of the writing, etc., but I still think it's their best game overall. I don't think any other developer has come close to the "feel" of ME2 and the suicide mission.

ME3 was fucked from the start thanks to poor planning from the start and a rushed development cycle. It was originally meant to be released in December 2011, not even two years after ME2. And, unlike DA2, what's there has little redeeming value. Sad that the generic horde mode is considered the best part of the final act of a three part story driven single player action RPG.

ME1 and ME2 are easily two of my favorite games of all time. As much as I like DA, none of them even come close.
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>>123684598
Yeah, they just have regular bikinis now.
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>>123684598
>They're close enough.
They really aren't, it's like seeing a WW2 film and all the soldiers are wearing tuxedos or something. That's what it is like seeing people dressed up in rock band clothes that are supposed to be medieval type warriors. It works if the tone is right but if the game take itself seriously at all? I don't think it really does.
>Bioware has been abandoning those for some time now.
But their armours are no more realistic for it, they're still just as silly. Might as well have kept the bikinis because at least they would be honest about how serious their games are.
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>>123685181
>As much as I like DA, none of them even come close.
You liked Starcraft better than Warcraft, Star Wars better than Lord of the Rings, and so on too, didn't you?
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>>123685181
Agreed completely, I don't know about favorite games of all time though. I've played too many good ones to pick favorites. Starflight and Star Control 2 was more fun for me but I liked a lot of things they did with Mass Effect.
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>>123685540

> it's like seeing a WW2 film and all the soldiers are wearing tuxedos

Exaggeration. I know you have an extremely high bar for realism (and judging by your spamming images of Medieval armor you are an enthusiast for it), but you just have to accept that not everyone has the same bar. You say that perfect 100% realism isn't the point, but where do you draw the line? How realistic does it have to be? To what extent can the developer trade realism for style before you decide it's just "WW2 soldiers in tuxedos"? All you do is point and say "that's not good enough" in respect to Bioware games. Then you would probably point at the Witcher I'm sure and say "that is good enough". But rather than giving specific judgements you need to quantify what is and is not acceptable generally.

You act like you have some principled stand on this. But you have to accept that your exactly like most every other fan of fantasy. You just happen to have a little bit different threshold for acceptance on medieval realism.
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>>123685298
Hawt, such a shame about that face though.
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>>123685540

Drakeblood knights...
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>>123685948
I don't know if it's even sci-fi vs fantasy. Just mentally building a rough list of my favorite games of all time and I know ME1 and ME2 would be on it, without even having to consider it. DA:O could be on that list but it's just not in the same league for me.

>>123685969
Despite ME3 and the (possibly) shaky future of the series, I have too much love for those two games, even going back to watching that first early demo of ME1 with proto-Shepard in the bar. I've been playing games long enough that I can't even remember what the first game I played was, and not a lot of games come close to that level of fondness for me.
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>>123686290
>what is and is not acceptable generally.
How about armour that could conceivably be used as armour or just armour that can at least symbolize armour instead of the kitsch comic book spikey shit coming straight from an anime?

The thing that really grinds my gears about the first Dragon Age in particular is that it aims to be an "realistic" fantasy story. If you want to see that done right then try the Game of Thrones RPG. DA:O doesn't even try to be grounded. Instead they use the same BSDM costume armour designs as in DnD.
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>>123687170
I'd take yummy feet over realism any day
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>>123685948
Science/Speculative Fiction > Fantasy
This is objective fact.
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>>123687350
Feet are haram, tumblr would not approve.
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>>123687050
wat
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>>123687386
>this concept
I wish I could forget it. Along with ice-cream cerberus.
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>>123687170
>battle thong
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>>123687170
that's so bad
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>>123687848
Standard issue fantasy armour, gives a lot of magical protection. Maybe a charisma bonus as well.
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>>123687386
>>123687723
what the hell is it and why does it look pregnant
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>>123687848
behold, the thong of warding. also she breathes through her skin.
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>>123687170

>That handprint on her ass
Wew lad...

>>123687386

What the FUCK is this...? It looks like a cancer tumor that developed a will of its own.

>>123687652

The drakeblood knights in Dark Souls 2 are wearing that exact arnor. DkS is kind of a mix of realism and complete anime bullshit. Lovely 2bh
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>>123658881
>Matt Rhodes
He made Frodo a tranny dyke on estrogen in the LotR piece he drew, this is why we can't have nice things.
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>>123687170
does she have a handprint on her ass? hot
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>>123688387
seems kinda picky t b h
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>>123688326
The skin on her buttcheeks to be precise. Look at it wobble as she takes deep breaths.
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>>123688320
Rhodes happened
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>>123688364
>It looks like a cancer tumor that developed a will of its own.
It's the true face of the solaswife.
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>>123688613
rhodes doesn't come up with the ideas for these things, just the designs
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>>123688670
He's a concept artist, anon. It's both ideas and realization.
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>>123688816
ideas for what they look like, not ideas for the character itself. someone at bioware told him 'we want an enemy that looks like a pile of sentient meat in a bodysuit' or something like that and >>123687386 is what he gave them

rhode doesn't have THAT much power
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>>123688479
>Flirt with this slut in a bar
>She just tells me to bugger off
>Start a fight
>She's only wearing a thong and a corset, easy prey
>Her armour magically deflects all my sword strikes
>Erection grows so big I can't fight properly
>She stabs me through my heart
>With my dying breath I reach for her butt as she walks away and gropes it
Totally worth it.
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>>123689014
>what is collaboration inside the work collectives
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>>123689014
It's all Rhodes's fault!!!!
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>>123689334
Actually it is.
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>>123689226
people just seem to think rhodes has total creative freedom and the team has to work with whatever he gives them and aren't allowed to send it back or whatever
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>>123685298
She's fat for an elf. Guess that's what happens when you're a retard left wing
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>>123689134
it's the only explanation that makes sense with the angle of the print, too. that or a dwarf or midget or other short race i guess gave her ass a high five.
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>>123689334
>It's Gaider's fault!
>It's Hepler's fault!
>It's Weekes' fault!
>It's Rhodes' fault!
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Let's all post scapegoatfus!!!
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>>123689449
Rhodes is the source of a quarter of the faggotry at Bioware, the other parts are David Gaider, Weekes and Laidlaw responsible for.
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>>123689705
Hepler is the original Bioware scapegoatfu desu
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>>123689614
um....... it actually is weekes'es's' fault....
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>>123689449
People just can see the most of his concepts are shit but he's still the lead artist of DA-series instead of being fired.
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>>123689775
Shut the fuck up.
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>>123689541
>You'll never be a fat bearded dwarf that's slapping slut asses with his dirty miner hands
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>>123689784
whats shit about them

only reasons people have given is that it's not to their personal taste and how they're not realistic and it's obvious at this point bioware doesn't give a shit about being super realistic
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>>123689769
Hamburger Helper is the only scapegoat that didn't have all that much creative input. I hated her creative output nevertheless.
>>123690075
They're tumblr tier and objectively bad.
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>>123689449
Very few outside the company know this but Matt Rhodes' uncle's brother's son is actually the CEO of EA!!! BioWare employees must cater to every one of Rhodes' whims. Gaider was even FORCED to be his human footstool for a month after one incident... This is also why he's gained so much weight recently. He's to blame for both the lack of titty in DA:I AND the overabundance of titty in ME3. Truly monstrous.

Don't ask how I know any of this. ;)
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>>123678453
This armor looks just as silly and nonsensical as anything from DA, family.
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>>123690202
You know, it wouldn't actually surprise me if this was true.
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>>123690416
>you will never meet a naked cyborg martin sheen
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>>123690191
you forgot to call them sjw
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>>123690416
where's the dong
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>>123690524
I don't think there's any politics involved, he just likes girly men and dyke women.
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>>123689705
It's all Conal's fault.
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>>123690513
Real life TIM is better looking than Sheen.
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>>123689614
It's all of their faults, half the crew at BioWare is full of totally cancerous idiots.
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>>123690882
that part is so awkwardly choreographed
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Why did Bioware removed the "Divine Heretic" ending?
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at least Rhodes is a major qt...
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>>123691201
2edgy, remember that this is a romance simulator for teenage girls. That's way too dark for them.
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>>123691201
because it's something that would require a lot more focus than they were willing to/could give.

especially because a lot of people would want their inquisitor to do some really big things, like kicking humans out of orlais for elves or leading an exalted march on tevinter.
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>>123691340
>this is a romance simulator for teen girls
too true
mass effect 1 and DA:O were actually relatively well-written and mature and the romance were maybe a bit overplayed but it was fine. what happened? it doesn't even seem like the same people worked on those games.
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>>123690620
How do you even come to that conclusion? Most of his concepts are extremely generic with manly men and girly women. He even does a ton of gendered posing. There are plenty of actual issues one could have with his concepts you don't have to make stuff up to justify not liking them.
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ash was right
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>>123691548
>it doesn't even seem like the same people worked on those games.
probably because they aren't, i'm pretty sure like 50% of dai's writing team were newbies
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Do you guys think they will finally take a step back from all the SJW and tumblr pandering in the new DA and ME or are they too committed?
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>>123691951
A buxom blonde human woman and krogan cock are the two currently confirmed squadmates in ME:A...
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>>123691951
depends on what you mean by SJW pandering. i doubt they're gonna stray into "autistic otherkin demigirl uwu" territory but they're not going to stop having LGBT characters, they have too big of a market there.
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>>123691642
why does every female in ME have horrendous posture
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>>123692210
>they're not going to stop having LGBT characters
This is exactly what I meant, at least they should keep it lowkey instead of going balls-out retarded and making every single companion in the game bisexual and then start writing into all the background of their lore and in-game texts about the status of homosexuality in different regions of their world and shit. It's just total pandering and undermines the rest of the game because it makes it very difficult to take the story and the world and the IRL writers seriously.
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>>123691951
That's like asking if the next Neptunia is going to stop pandering to otaku. Don't be stupid anon
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>>123692595
>gay people are only acceptable if they never talk about it and keep it hidden
>I can't take gay people seriously

sounds like you're just a homophobe, my man
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>>123692237
And that's before she got her "upgrades".
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>>123692830
That's not really what I said at all, I really hope you are just baiting and don't actually think that.
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>>123692595
Krem's afterschool special really did not affect how I viewed Morrigan's conversation with her mum, Cory's attack on Haven, or any other memorbale parts of the story t b h
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>>123692595
they've never made every single companion bi and they have started touching down on how homosexuality is viewed through out thedas.

> undermines the rest of the game
i really don't see how because with some characters you wouldn't even know their sexualities if you didn't romance them. the only one whose sexuality has actually been brought up outside of a romance so far is dorian.
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>>123692935
it's exactly what you said, I bet you disliked Dorian's personal quest because it was all about his sexuality
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>>123692596
Pandering is wrong.

Unless they're pandering to me.
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>>123693323
why is a volleyball game called dead or alive
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>>123693323
/bwg/na xtreme beach VOLLEYBALL...
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>>123693427
I don't know if this is a genuine question or not...
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>>123692595
Why should it be lowkey? Sera being a lesbian was barely mentioned ever and that's fine. Dorian being a gay was brought up in his personal quest and it had purpose. There's nothing wrong with that being an important aspect of a character's story or an unimportant one. It's only an issue if it's their only defining aspect which isn't the case and hasn't really been the case with any prominent bioware character. Even STEEEEVE who was a minor character had things about him other than his dead husband despite people who never bothered to talk to him claiming otherwise.
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>>123693114
>they've never made every single companion bi

DA2 came dangerously close though. i hope they don't do that again, it was so lazy.
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>>123693556
Let's post our waifu's swimsuits!!
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>>123694010
who lounges in a horse pen in heels and a bikini
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>>123694252
someone getting paid a lot of money to do so
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>>123693114
>you wouldn't even know their sexualities if you didn't romance them
You would know because of the tons of flirt options in all of the dialogue and because of BioWare writing you know it will never be unrequitted.

>>123693197
It's not what I said at all. I didn't have a problem with Dorian because he was written as and makes sense as a gay character. What I have a problem with is 90% of the cast of every single one of their games coincidentally being gay or bisexual just because BioWare knows that a gay person might be playing their games and doesn't want to upset them by locking off any romances for them. That's literally the definition of pandering. It's terrible writing.

>>123693832
My point is all sexuality in their games should be lowkey, straight or otherwise. I only mentioned gay romances because the straight ones are always lowkey by nature because the writers don't feel the need to make such a big deal out of them, but they always make a point to announce the gay ones and write so much about them in the lore. The obsession with characters' sexuality just takes away from the world and the story. These RPGs are supposed to be about telling a grand story, not taking a class in gender studies. It just totally ruins the atmosphere and makes it very difficult to take many of the characters in their games seriously because they are not true to life.
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>>123694252
Maxim's photographers I guess.
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>>123692595
>A single codex entry and a whopping two bisexual characters from the previous game undermined your ability to enjoy the story
Yeah I know what being triggered is like too. When I see a rainbow I get rape flashbacks and have to call the police
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>>123690191
>supposed to be Sauron
>wears something straight out of DAI, only without a shirt
I think he's on a quest to turn every Bioware game into his own personal fetish assembly. >>123691623 looks like it could belong in either Mass Effect or Dragon Age, that's how pervasive his stupid corset fetish has become.
>>123690202
Didn't he get his brother employed by Bioware?
>>123690882
>implying that Solas can be compared to a cheap trick using shem like Ironman
>>123691053
Stupid hair.
>>123691201
Scope limitations like >>123691381 said. I think it would have worked pretty well though all things considered: you declare a personal exalted march against Solas anyway because you're the divine's buttboy, and we aren't going to see the south ever again, no reason not to fuck it up.
>>123691548
>DAI romances
>not well written
Shitpost harder.
>>123692595
You make this post at least twice a thread, is there a reason why?
>>123692871
This actually looks better than her gorilla pose in ME2.
>>123693873
>FO4 lets you fuck everyone at the same time
>'polyamory'
>tumblrinas and 'gaming journalists' can't stop singing praises
Prepare for the future.
>>123694010
I wish they also used her body for Miranda and not only the face.
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>>123694373
>You would know because of the tons of flirt options in all of the dialogue and because of BioWare writing you know it will never be unrequitted.
i don't understand, are you saying there are no flirt options that ultimately go nowhere? because you can flirt with cass, cullen and dorian as the wrong genders and they eventually turn you down. you can flirt with viv and she shuts you down, and flirting with harding absolutely goes nowhere.
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>>123693832
Steve is literally a token gay character, how is he not the case? Making him gay was a conscious choice done by the writers. What purpose does him being gay fulfill at all? There is no in-universe or character developmental reason for it. He is there literally because people expect gay characters to be in their game.
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>>123694667
i thought being token meant being a cliche too?

first time i played me3 i didn't know he was gay. i didn't even know he existed. was really confused when he died.
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>>123689134
Underrated post
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>>123694556
>You make this post at least twice a thread, is there a reason why?
I've never posted in this thread before and the only reason I posted it is because I want a more serious and better written RPG. Having such a huge focus on sexuality only detracts from the game and isn't there for any reason other than to pander. Go look at any other non-bioware story-heavy AAA RPG that's come out in the last decade and you will notice they are not full of pandering sexual bullshit, not because they are homophobic, simply because it has no place being such a gigantic part of a game.
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>>123694373
>What I have a problem with is 90% of the cast of every single one of their games coincidentally being gay or bisexual just because BioWare knows that a gay person might be playing their games and doesn't want to upset them by locking off any romances for them. That's literally the definition of pandering.

Despite your whining, gay and bisexual characters are still the minority in every Bioware game except for maybe DA2.

DAO has 2 bi romances, DAI has has 2 bi romances and 2 gay ones, ME1 has bi romance, ME2 has NONE, ME3 has 2 bi romances and 2 gay ones

Even counting the minor characters that are bi or gay, straight characters are still the overwhelming majority.

There's far more blatant and worse pandering in ME, and it's not pandering to gays, it's pandering to straight men. All the gratuitous ass shots, insane cleavage, and skintight bodysuits pander more to straight men than the very small amount of gay characters does to the LGBT audience.

>>123694667
You don't need a reason or a purpose to make a character gay. Characters, just like people, can just be gay.
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>>123694667
>Making him gay was a conscious choice done by the writers
Really? I thought they were asleep when they wrote the entirety of ME3.

>There is no in-universe reason
If you truly require a detailed justification for every character trait I'll give you one since I have top secret knowledge, don't tell anyone okay? In the universe of Mass Effect some people are gay
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>>123691201
Please explain
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>>123695050
>. Having such a huge focus on sexuality
But the games don't do that. Like others have already pointed out, Dorian is the only character whose sexuality ends up playing a part in their personal quest and most reactions to it have been positive. The games themselves do not put a lot of focus on the characters' sexuality, it's the fandom and media who do that. Like when Dorian was revealed, Gaider literally mentioned offhand in an interview that he was gay and then the next day there are suddenly tons of articles about how big of a deal it was.
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>>123695413
It never made it past conversation and one piece of concept art but they toyed with the idea of the Inquisitor being able to become Divine at one point.

>>123695312
>Despite your whining, gay and bisexual characters are still the minority in every Bioware game except for maybe DA2.
Yep. There was a LOT of "but why are there so many straight people" from the LGBT fans when DAI's LI roster came out.
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>>123694373
>My point is all sexuality in their games should be lowkey, straight or otherwise
Why? Especially in narrative-focused games.


> the straight ones are always lowkey by nature because the writers don't feel the need to make such a big deal out of them
Everything about the City Elf Origin. In FO4 you are literally a person married to someone of the opposite sex with a baby which is a driving force for your character. I can go on
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>>123695318
>In the universe of Mass Effect some people are gay

Yes. Because the writers are pandering to gay people. In real life 50% of the world's population is not gay and they don't make a point to talk about it to everybody that comes asking. These are supposed to be RPGs, not political pieces on sexual issues in society.
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>>123695312
Shutup. Staring into Miranda's asshole during conversations does not undermine the game's writing.
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>>123695712
Romance and relationships are not the same as sexuality. In fallout 4 your husband/wife and the writers of the game don't feel the need to make it clear whether she is straight or bisexual, nor do they feel the need to justify her sexual preferences to the character. That's what I mean by lowkey.
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>>123695849
So characters in stories must accurately reflect reality? Even in settings that are not based on the real world? Sounds like a great way to limit a writer's choice.

Too many characters have light eye colors in every bioware game to be an accurate representation of the population of the world. There aren't enough asians to be an accurate representation of the population. There aren't enough illiterate characters to be accurate to the population of the world. Elves don't exist in the real world therefore they should not be in bioware games. I want the light-eye, anti-asian, literate, elven political agenda to stop raping me.
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>>123692118
>and krogan cock
I almost spat out my drink. Thanks a lot, asshole.

Actually I'm pretty sure that rumor is bs.
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>>123695701
Maybe because straight people are still the majority in gaming and otherwise.
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>>123696393
Yes. They must. If you're writing about humans, they will always be human, with human tendencies, no matter what your setting is like.

It doesn't make sense if you're writing about humans to suddenly make more than half of the population gay with no in-world explanation. There is now a huge disconnect between your world and real life, and that makes it much more difficult for players or readers to relate to any of the characters they are reading about, because they are not realistic. That's how writing works.
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>>123696738
>It doesn't make sense if you're writing about humans to suddenly make more than half of the population gay with no in-world explanation
where the fuck are you getting more than half of the population in DA is gay?
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>>123696136
So a character's sexuality should always be ambiguous or not acknowledged at all?
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>>123696393
I know you're not serious about asians but I honestly think that's true. They just love the "inclusivity" of black dick but asians are pretty much ignored whenever the diversity goblins strike. I wonder why that is, maybe because they're not fantasising about them fucking their wives or something.

I also think you should explain why the straight audience would want to buy a game that's all about sexual deviants who's akin to scat fetishists to normal people. Would you still buy Dragon Age games if every character you meet is an very open scat fetishist? Why not? Are you a scatophobe?
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>>123696951
Unless you're pursuing a romance with that character, then yes.
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>>123696951
Yes, unless it serves a purpose to do so. Dorian is a good example. They wanted to tell a specific story and his sexuality was important in order to tell that story. If there is no purposeful reason to mention their sexuality or make a character with specific sexual preferences, then why would you?
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i think we're being lowkey b8ed here m8s
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>>123696951
If you aren't making a porn game or using it for great effect in the story I don't see what the point is of including it at all. Every element of a story must have a purpose, what's the purpose of everyone being a shitpusher except furthering the gay agenda?
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Solas and his romance are overhyped as shit. It would maybe be alright if he wasn't thousands of years old. There is nothing you could teach such a person, nothing you could surprise him with, him falling in love with a literal baby (from his standpoint) is just weird. Also he acts like some total retard "Muh people" and keeps fucking up at everything he tries and judges all humans alike just because they are humans like some teenage neo nazi. How are you not wiser than that every such a long time period?
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>>123696921
Maybe not half, but certainly far more than is realistic. Either that or it's the world's biggest coincidence that all the gay people happened to join your squad/army/whatever and that all the gay people happen to be wherever you are adventuring and want to mention it.
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>>123697376
>Either that or it's the world's biggest coincidence that all the gay people
there are only two gay companions in dai
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>>123697265
By people pretending to be progressive dumbfucks or homophones who don't want gay porn in their entertainment?
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>>123697265
There's nothing "lowkey" here
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>>123697059
>Would you still buy Dragon Age games if every character you meet is an very open scat fetishist?
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>>123697370
>Weekes
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>>123697376
It's like all the BioWare protagonist's have an affirmative action policy for their groups of adventurers.

Hmm, gotta make sure there is a black woman, a couple gay guys, some bisexual people, and let's not forget an oppressed feminist elf... oh, great, all those people were just laying around in the path of my quest, great!

I'm just surprised gay people and all these other minorities aren't insulted by this treatment.
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>>123697370
Try harder.
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>>123697370
He's a pedophile nazi elf god. I think that's excellent writing.
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>>123697891
Given this is a BioWare gay porn game I'm surprised Kaidan and Steve aren't fucking each other on the floor right now.
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>>123697102
What queer bioware character isn't like this? All you know about Sera until you pursue her is that she likes women, the possibility of her liking men is ambiguous. All you know about Steve until you pursue him was that he was married to a man, the possibility of him liking women is ambiguous. The bisexual characters and Dorian are the only ones I can think of who make their preferences clear without a romance. And with Dorian it serves an obvious purpose with his story. If characters being in a heterosexual relationship w/ a baby and everything is not a clear statement on those characters' sexual preferences how is being in a homosexual one or making comments about attractions to the same-sex a clear statement on their preferences?
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>>123698067
Solas is not a pedophile, he'd be into dwarves if he was.
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>>123697925
That's exactly what it is, and none of those people will be insulted because they're seeing representation.
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>>123698104
Come to think of it, I don't know if they ever even interact with each other.

Traynor never ever speaks to anyone but Shepard and EDI, until the Citadel DLC.
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>>123697265
I wonder if vhenan-chan developed another persona or if it's a new full time funposter
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>>123698153
>All you know about Sera until you pursue her is that she likes women
That's the opposite of ambiguous, sorry. You're literally saying one of the first things you know about her is her sexual preference for women. Same thing with Steve. What purpose does that serve in the story?
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>>123697891

When Shepard opened the door to that room on the normandy where they planned the suicide mission and I suddenly got a bluescreen of total annihilation and had to live without a PC for 2 months.
Had nothing to do with the game though. Almost all condensers on the motherboard were wrekt, it was a miracle that the PC was even still running at that point. Yet I still get that scary feeling when that scene happens...
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>>123698252
>Steve only speaks with Vega for gay shipping purposes
>Traynor only speaks with EDI and Allers for gay shipping purposes
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>>123698243
Yeah, but it's very poor representation. If I were gay I would be absolutely pissed that is the only representation we are getting in video games. But I'm not so what do I know?
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>>123697925
>a couple gay guys
just Dorian. the other gay is Sera and she's a lesbian

>some bisexual people
Iron Bull and I guess Josephine, but she's not a party member...

>oppressed feminist elf
Sera's cause is the downtrodden commoner, not females in general. SJWs hate her because she's practically a self hating elf and she's terrified of mages, who SJWs love/identify with.

all the other companions are hetero
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>>123697891
The ending of ME1 were they all think Shepard's dead, but then they appear at the top of the wreckage with triumphant music playing...
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>>123698294
Vhenan-chan is somewhat knowledgeable about several vidya games and would be excellent company aside from the incessant Dreadwulf shittery and being defensive about everything.
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>>123698510
I'm a homo and it doesn't matter me, you seem to have an egocentrica tumblrina mentality m8
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>>123698014
Nice arguments there senpai.
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>>123698306
It's a trait which doesn't always have a specific purpose to a story. What purpose does her being blonde serve the story? Especially with characters like Sera with no real arcs or major roles in overall plot.
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>>123697925
I actually am but progressivism has been so deeply rooted into sexuality that you can't remove it. Me and my boyfriend have actually been called homophobes IRL during an discussion when we both thought that homosexuality shouldn't be made into some sort of handicap or stamped with an minority stamp when we're just regular joes like anyone else and any attempt at separate us from others would be demeaning, whatever the intentions.

But just like apartheid is now progressive the leftist doublethink apparatus just can't grasp that people are individuals and not labels. I have literally nothing to do with a nigger homo living in the US, we have nothing in common except our choice of partners when it comes to gender. Homosexuality is not a fucking identity or political stance, it's not a class or a race.
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>>123698580
You're right, there totally is no tokenism or pandering here with the gay black male, the black woman in a position of power, the lesbian, and the two bisexual people. That's 5 out of 12 main characters, literally almost half the main cast are token characters.
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>>123698483
I thought Steve and Vega were friends because they were the only latinos on the ship
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>>123698402
How did you survive?
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>>123698510
>Yeah, but it's very poor representation.
It's not to some LGBT fans out there because it's basically saying their sexuality is fine as long as it's never brought up or expressed in any way, which is basically how a lot of them have had to live their actual lives AKA staying in the closet, and that's not a fun way to live.

Sera's sexuality LITERALLY only becomes apparent if you hit the flirt option with her during your first conversation wit her. If you don't take it there's nothing else except for her getting together with Dagna (which is in the epilogue for a DLC).
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Why are you doing this? You, of all people?
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>>123698810
Always send him into the vents. Always
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>>123698156
Maybe if it was Gaider who wrote him.
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>>123699118
>which is basically how a lot of them have had to live their actual lives AKA staying in the closet
Do you live in pakistan or something?
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>>123698887
Oh fuck man come on, I seriously hope you are baiting at this point. You're seriously comparing sexuality to fucking hair color? What you're saying is so fucking unbelievably stupid I don't even know where to begin, I need to just leave and calm down, no wonder this general is so dead when everybody comes in a reads this shit.
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>>123699118

Well to be fair her sexuality is pretty obvious from her party dialogue. She is clearly lusting after females and never males.
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>>123699049

What do you think I am, some loser without something to do when the PC breaks?
Replaying the entire MGS series and FF9 on console is what I did...!
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>>123698981
Sorry that you guys are starting to go on the Feminist shitlist, really. I wonder how that will affect representation in the long run if it blows up more, and if you'll be replaced by peaceful brown religious fanatics.
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why does /bwg/ always spawn the same tired "muh gay agenda" arguments
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>>123699325
Take a shot and get back in the ring in ten.
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>>123699596
Because that's what happens when you try to bring sexual politics into your media where it doesn't belong.
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>>123699596
That's why changing the name was a bad idea. New names attract newfags. At least with /dag/ people knew that whining about how writers shove gayness down their mouthpussies.
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>>123699519
>and if you'll be replaced by peaceful brown religious fanatics.
This has already happened where I live. Being a white gay man just doesn't cut it anymore and it's considered to be way too normal in feminist circles.
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>>123699907
*gayness down their mouthpussies was futile
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>>123699907
>At least with /dag/ people knew that whining about how writers shove gayness down their mouthpussies.
...
Does what? This does not seem to be a complete sentence.
>>123698887
>What purpose does her being blonde serve the story?
She was the only character they could let have blonde hair without there being an outrage over that there are too many pure white people in DAI. (one)
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>>123698294
Too many/not enough homos discussion? That's not me.
>>123698676
I can't help it, the game he's from feels so alive and looks so beautiful, I feel an incredibly strong connection to him as I play.
>>123698727
>Solas and his romance are overhyped as shit.
Debatable; overhyped by whom?
>It would maybe be alright if he wasn't thousands of years old.
We don't know his exact age and while he has existed for a very long time, a lot of it was spent asleep. Besides, he doesn't have that much knowledge (or even less) of the modern world compared to Lavellan.
>There is nothing you could teach such a person, nothing you could surprise him with, him falling in love with a literal baby (from his standpoint) is just weird.
See previous point -- Solas as Fen'Harel was a ruler and we don't know how much or how little he interacted with 'normal' people. After the creation of the Veil, all his elf friends died or went missing and he only interacted with spirits from that point. He even says in his romance that you showed him that there are good things in the real world, good things he was presumably not aware of that the Dalish have (perseverance against all odds, starting anew after being broken, etc).
>Also he acts like some total retard "Muh people"
All of his 'my people' references are mainly there to give you an 'oh shit' feeling as you play the game for the second time and realize that he's been talking about the ancient elves all along. I don't think the intention was to make him look obsessed like Merrill was.
>and keeps fucking up at everything he tries
If he didn't, you'd just complain that he's a mary sue. Besides, he doesn't fuck up everything -- he managed to acquire both the anchor and get Mythal's essence, and now he's beyond the reach of Inquisition. All things considered, his plans are proceeding quite smoothly.
Can't comment on the last point because I'm out of space, but as I said, he's not that experienced compared to someone like Flemeth.
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That island solution wasn't doesn't sound so dumb after all now does it?
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>>123700358
are you drunk, anon
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>>123700050
Aye, I agree, we should bomb Bioware's offices just like the guys who follow the religion of peace do. I'm sure the media will write long articles about how nice anti-fags are after that and how they need to be more welcoming to us in society and produce more anti-fag children.
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>>123699907
All this new has been fantastic though. There's been incredible game discussion going on throughout the thread and I'm actually tempted to pull out the PS2 for BG because of it.
>>123699965
Too white and too male. Not enough rape or pedophilia in your religion I guess. I wish it weren't like this.
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>>123700297
>get Mythal's essence
Whatever he got, the best part of it still goes to morri
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>>123700591
Where's this incredible game discussion?
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it's all ogre now
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>>123700780
The posts about the gay mafia shoving sharpies in anon's butt or something IS game discussion. Where have you been?
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>>123700591
>I'm actually tempted to pull out the PS2 for BG
Dark Alliance? Did Bioware even make that?
>>123700919
>gay mafia shoving sharpies in anon's butt
It's funny because it's true, the gay mafia is constantly rustling my jimmies.
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>>123701058
I should become gay and join the gay mafia, we would never get shut down because we can use our sexuality as a shield.
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>>123699596
Maybe because that is what Bioware is all about these days? It's a shame because they used to make good games before they got librul brain aids.
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>>123700740

>He just absorbed Flemeth's ayylmao, Mythal's ayylmao goes to Morrigan
>Flemeth takes over Solas in DA4
>Solas voiced by Kate Mulgrew
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>>123701058
>It's funny because it's true, the gay mafia is constantly rustling my jimmies.
That's why I said it. It's a very serious issue and you should discuss it more.
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Post your DA:I character and your FO4 character.
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>>123701058
Evidently not. So much for that idea then.
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>>123701283
this post gave me brain aids
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>>123701384
I'm all for it, but why would his voice change when it's still the same body?
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Is Rogue fun in DA:I? I played Mage last time.
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>>123701695
The librul kind? You know what to do then, find yourself a black bull and start getting c.ucked.
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What a bunch of losers.
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>>123702015
Everyone will tell you archery is fun but ignore them. Be a dagger artificer stab shit and throw explosive skittles and spike traps at every nigger who looks at you funny
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>>123702252
This text doesn't work with an image of a NEET.
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>>123702304
Is artificer actually fun? I just made a DW rogue and was gonna go assassin, don't know if that's actually much fun though. Traps and stuff seems weird.
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>>123702004

For the same reason Revolver Ocelot's voice changed when he was possessed by his fap hand. It just works.

>>123702252

Sorry waifu.. . ..
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>>123702682
>You have to be employed to have fun on saturday nights
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So who's the Nazis of Thedas? (aka the good guys)
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>>123703116
there aren't any
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>>123702724
You get a thieves' lantern too and that's really fun to toy with. The traps are very good imo, lots of control with spike trap and you can cover a huge area of death with the thrown mines, but the real fun is the passives which generally benefit the whole party and make you have basically no cooldowns. If you take hook and tackle and it's upgrade you can just zip around as a human bomb barely enemies a chance to a react. The only issue is that you're fragile so you've got to cc everything/have all your defenses up first. Despite being traps they actually support a very aggressive playstyle rather than stealthing, laying them down, and letting enemies walk into them
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>>123702252
Solas would never make fun of me for being home alone.
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>>123702252

I'm home alone with my cat. Having an animal for your only companionship is right up Morrigan's alley so she'd approve.
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>>123703031
>lived at home until 20
>knew literally no one but her mom
>never had a job
>socially autistic
Morrigan is more of a NEET than most modern 4chan posters.
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>>123705462
>20
She was probably already close to 30 according to what gaider once said. It also fits her looks in DA:I, she looks good but too old to be 30, more like close to 40.
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>>123703031
>being employed in the first place
>>123705462
She even has a private den in the camp where she can eat pseudo-medieval ramen and watch the animes in the fade.
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>>123705646
>Morrigan looks 40 in DAI
What kind of 40 year olds are you hanging out with, ones that carry around an airbrushing kit with them?
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>>123705708
Ugh, she probably likes Free! and Death Note...
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>>123705646

You think this looks 40? Where do you live with all these beautiful perimenopausal women.
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>>123705462
I don't remember her being that qt, that can't be right
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>>123705761
I have no idea what the fuck you mean but she still looks to old to be 30. Leliana is also around 30 in DA:O.
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Why does Morrigan dress like a slut in front of her son?
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>>123705990
If you mean the airbrushing thing they've started selling airbrushes that apply makeup instead of paint. It's supposed to really erase lines and stuff.

And Morrigan doesn't look exactly 30, but she doesn't look 40 either. She's probably in her early to mid 30s.
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>>123705906

If you told me this woman was mid-20s I could believe it.

I've always taken Morrigan for early-to-mid 20s in DA:O and early-to-mid 30s in DA:I. But we don't really know her age. The toolset gives an age that's unexpectedly high, but IIRC Bioware has addressed those toolset ages and said they shouldn't be relied on.
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>>123706057
It's Wilds wear. He's a kid and doesn't know the difference anyway.
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>>123705945
Morrigan was best in DA:O, both romantically and for friendship.

>>123706057
ask ure mum lmeo
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>>123706162
It can erase fine lines, or hide them somewhat. I've known plenty of people who had those before their 20's.
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>>123705023

Same familia, except I have 2 cats.
And 2 ladybugs that seemingly plan to spend the winter here.

>>123705462
>>123705646

I'd say she is around 25 in DA:O. 20 seems unlikely. Gaider did indeed post that she is in her late twenties to early thirties in DA:O once, that was before he was tired as fuck of all the age questions for every character and was like "Whatever, decicde yourself"
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>>123706670
>And 2 ladybugs that seemingly plan to spend the winter here.
cute
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Is there anything Claudia can't do?
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>>123705870

Death Note... She would probably be team kira just like me! !!

>>123706954

I wonder if that works though, it should be too warm in here and that could confuse them and wake them up early. Time will tell...
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>>123708375
>being team Kira
s m h
>>123708421
Thought it was Quiet from thumbnail.
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>>123706057
Because she is one?
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>>123708375
We get them and stinkbugs by the droves right about this time.
>>123708913
Was there dialogue I don't remember supporting this? She never seemed the type to me.
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This is the first time in six months that I've come home from work and the thread has had over a hundred posts. I'm proud of you /dag/.

What happened?
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>>123708823
Wow, I already forgot Quiet was a character. What a disappointing game...

>>123709204
/bwg/...
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>>123709204
Were you not here after the release of Trespasser?
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>>123709138
She's had sex before, that's enough to be called a slut by virgin waifufags.
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>>123709647
I work really long hours
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> tfw it takes all your probes to get from "Poor" to "Depleted"
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I hate trying to copy other people's characters in Inquisition. So many of the options aren't sliders - they're that weird x-axis-y-axis thing, and it's nearly impossible to exactly duplicate the position the tutorial said. I've been working on this Natalie Dormer lookalike for an hour and I just cannot quite get it right.
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>>123709737
Then WHAT is zev in their eyes...
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>>123710653
Try windowed borderless, keep the images underneath, and swap between them?
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So the artifice focus ability is totally useless if you're DW? That's pretty lame. Assassin seems pretty cool but the focus ability for that seems useless as well.
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>>123710930
That's why you have mark of the rift
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>Playing BGEE for the first time
>Meet Neera
>Can't avoid the encounter
>all option lead to siding with her
>"and they must have gone to advanced bandit school or something"
>Terrible lolsorandumb line that doesn't fit in with the game and seems to forget the only "school" in the entire series are the ruins of an old magic academy

I feel like the person/team that wrote Neera has never played the game.
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>>123714030
>>Playing BGEE
This was your first mistake. Why are you playing that abomination?
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>>123714030

Neera is bad. And I mean really if they want to write a new female romance, did they really have to do yet another romance option with elven blood?
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>>123696951
Most people who play video games are manchildren who can't handle anything that isn't heterosexual
They are the equivalent of sjws except they get triggered off of diversity in any aspect.
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>>123710098
Planet scanning is potentially the worst minigame ever created. I have no idea why bioware put it in the game, my only guess is because they wanted to pad out the length or something.
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>>123717506
That being said, 90% of the mako is boring as fuck.
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>>123717252
>manchildren
Please show yourself out
>>>/trash/
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>>123717252
>ageist
>ableist
>people are not here for your approval
>people are not here to service you

I literally feel so attacked right now.
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>>123697370
>Solas and his romance are overhyped as shit. It would maybe be alright if he wasn't thousands of years old.
Solas isn't conventionally attractive so you really need to like his personality and try to understand him to appreciate his romance.
>There is nothing you could teach such a person, nothing you could surprise him with
You surprise him by not following past stereotypes and having him explore the present. Solas isn't all knowing, he just holds knowledge to one of the most powerful things in existence: the Veil. Other than that he has a lot to learn himself.
>him falling in love with a literal baby (from his standpoint) is just weird.
No. For one you are an average being plunged into a whole bunch of deep shit you don't understand and two he only likes when you respond with logic and inquiry, displaying intelligence and not ignorance. He grows to both respect and love you, and not see you as belligerent as Cassandra or hardheaded like Sera or Blackwall. Solas lives based upon "expectations" (he says it a lot), when people are not what he has expected he begins to respect them.
>Also he acts like some total retard "Muh people" and keeps fucking up at everything he tries and judges all humans alike just because they are humans like some teenage neo nazi.
Typical considering most humans nowadays can't fathom the concept or patriotism or nationalism. Those used to be prominent ideologies but now everyone is a selfish scumbag who doesn't care what nation he lives in or what ethnicity he belongs to as long as it's reaping benefits. I for one am very patriotic and it saddens me to see that "god bless [insert country here]" is no a fucking meme people laugh at. It is rare for people to truly want to die for their country unless its a communist country like China or similar to Russia.
>How are you not wiser than that every such a long time period?
He literally tells you that ALL HE DOES is study and spend time in the Fade. Did you even read the dialogue?
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>>123699596
I don't understand why people actually care about a characters' sexuality. There's no reason to care unless you are opposed to it. It's almost as if there are people who believe that their heterosexuality needs to be asserted. Nigga i don't give a fuck what you fuck nor do I care if you are open about it. It is what it is.
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>>123701515
Um... should I go first?
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stop raping me
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>>123720505
Stop watching me do it then.
>>123719780
Rational reasonings ma'am
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>>123720157
The problem is the pandering. It has always been there. Romances used to be heterosexual because homosexuality wasn't as popular especially in the demographic that was buying those games. Now the market for these games is more diverse so they make romances that will appeal.

The real issue is that the characters and romances aren't written carefully and with respect for the character and the consumer. They are written as caricatures and then used as part of their marketing campaign. The "agenda pushing" comes from the fact that because the caricatures are being used for marketing they are often essential or at least can't be ignored and often make huge leaps in proper story telling and jump to a point where you have to accept their romance or turn them down like Cortez or Anders.

Ultimately there is no gay agenda being pushed by Bioware, they are in fact working against the gay agenda by being unfaithful to the creative process by making 2D marketing tactics that hang around in game.
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>>123721276
So the problem is that they're not pandering to YOU anymore, then?
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>>123721487
The problem is that you won't fuck off.
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reminder that morrigan is psychotic like me, lmao
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>>123719780
One can be patriotic without shitting on everyone else and thinking it's fine if everyone else were to die to make their country greater. How can you equate Solas's beliefs with that?

Though, feeling super emotional because you happened to be born in within one set of coordinates is awfully primitive so you can't blame the majority of western society for moving away from something so illogical.
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>>123721276
It sounds like you need to stop being so critical of the game and just play it for fun. I highly doubt the average player is identifying the "caricatures" established through the NPCs.
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>>123717252
>diversity
So where's the sheep fuckers and pedophile romances, huh? Oh right, only leftist approved mental illnesses are okay. Homosexuals are disgusting, end of story.
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>>123721487
Not at all, why would you get that idea from what I wrote.

The problem is they are pandering by making something quick, cheap and obvious so they can show it in demos and have kotaku write nice articles about them.

Their design is unfair to people who are actually homosexual and the implementation is obnoxious to most people who play the game regardless of sexual orientation.

Bioware is combining bad writing, bad marketing and pandering to current trends to appease social bandwagoners.

There is nothing wrong with a character in game who has a different sexual preference to you who has an interest in you. The problem is when you jump for simple banter to a choice were you have to hop into bed with them or hurt their feelings and lose reputation.
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>>123722028
Pedos are actually trying to tack themselves onto the lgbtq group. When the left approves that, I'm going to invoke my inner Anders.
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>>123721573
The problem is that we haven't sent all straight males to an island with no internet connection yet.

>>123722165
Just get on the boat and leave already.
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>>123722295
You are going to force the protagonist to romance you and then blow up part of the city?
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Oh, it's not done yet...
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>>123722452
Less romance, more fireworks.
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>>123722376
That is very bigoted thing to say. You know who said things like that? Hitler.
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>>123721878
>One can be patriotic without shitting on everyone else and thinking it's fine if everyone else were to die to make their country greater. How can you equate Solas's beliefs with that?
In order for Solas to restore his nation and people he needs to kill everyone. It's only logical that he chooses his people over everyone else in the present. You think in war time we're trying to be nice with our enemies? The benefit of our nation is the only thing that matters, and if you aren't willing and ready to shit on other nations for that purpose alone, then you are not patriotic. You'd probably fall under the category of some silly humanist for world peace. Sjws and Feminists aren't patriotic, nationalistic or ethnocentric in the slightest. Look at what disgusting humans they are because they can't comprehend those values, which align themselves with loyalty, honor and reverence.

>Though, feeling super emotional because you happened to be born in within one set of coordinates is awfully primitive so you can't blame the majority of western society for moving away from something so illogical.
There's nothing primitive or illogical about it, and it's barely about "emotions". You are not a citizen of every other country, why would you care about another country in ways that does not benefit yours? Why would you not want your country (or people) to prosper even over others? The only reason is because you are selfish and ignorant. You cannot comprehend higher purposes above your own. There were greater civilizations even before our advanced civilizations, I highly doubt that they would ever condone anyone calling patriotism or nationalism primitive, emotional or illogical.
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your waifu isn't real...
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>>123722165
>The problem is when you jump for simple banter to a choice were you have to hop into bed with them or hurt their feelings and lose reputation.
Holy shit people who got mad that you get like a five point rivalry bump for shooting down Anders still exist? What? A character reacts poorly to being shot down. God forbid, companions actually react to things that aren't about killing a bunch of babies or rescuing nuns from a fire.
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>>123722295
I think they will approve of bestiality first, they've already begun to show signs of that. Pedophilia comes later, but they've actually already begun to include them too already.
>>123722585
Hitler was a nice old man, shame the bullies got to him.
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>>123722806
It's because some animals can very obviously consent and more and more people are starting to see that.

Personally I wouldn't but I can't argue about the consent thing.
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/bwg/ was a mistake. It should never have existed...
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>>123723021
make it stop...
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>>123723021
I was excited because I wanted to talk about baldur's gate but it's filled with people that liked DAII and DAI.

You people disgust me.
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>>123721487
Actually, you know what? What if I don't want to buy Bioware games if they don't cater to me anymore? If they started to make golf simulators would you still buy their games? Fuck no. So why should I keep buying them if they make homo dating sims these days?

Nigger, I'm gay and they don't pander to me at all. They pander to SJWs and girls who thinks that gays are like so totally cute. Fuck that shit. Fuck you. I wanted an adventure with swords and magic and shit. Instead I got a faggy bald elf, another faggy elf with sand in her vagina and a bunch of pussies. Thanks tumblr.
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>>123722612
You are being hysterical right now. You should lay down and dream about killing arabs in the name of Elvhen glory with your husbando. These silly diatribes are no good for anyone so come back tomorrow when your vagina isn't flaring in anger you fascinating creature
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>>123722612
Which Solaswife is this? You're my favorite.
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>>123723405
>having a favourite solaswife
how far have we fallen?
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>>123723219
Internalized homophobia is so ugly.
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>>123723216
BG is my favorite Bioware series. I'm of the unpopular opinion that the first game was the best, loved the low level adventure feel. Everything felt dangerous and exploring the wilderness was fun. It's a shame they don't make them like they used to.
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>>123723484
Internalized homosexuality is uglier but it feels so good.

You are confusing a terrible marketing ploy for a great stride in equality.
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>>123723597
And you are confusing a handful of gay characters with a major problem destroying the gaming industry.
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>>123723484
I bet he's mathc4mathc
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>>123723593
Yeah, I mean BG2 was great and all but BG 1 is the best. ToB, I feel, is the by far the worst.

When I was a young lad and couldn't afford my own games I played like 4 different versions of the BG 1 demo.
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>>123723216
>only 37 posters in the thread

you're either from /dag/ or one of the new shitposters arguing about homosexuals
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>>123723712
heh
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>>123723678
You are confusing my argument. Gay characters aren't destroying the gaming industry. The terrible content is destroying the gaming community. I was quite clear that the problem isn't new at all. There is a drastic decline in quality of banter between the PC and companions as the potential for meaningful interaction increases.
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>>123723219
They have Cullen mods. He's pretty fucking fantastic, but it is some solid first romantic relationship tier stuff.
>>123723473
That shit was absolutely beautiful and you can't deny it.
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>>123723021
http://www.strawpoll.me/6129432
http://www.strawpoll.me/6129432
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>>123723907
why would I be from /dag/? That whole series is more wasted potential than the ME series.
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Why is homosexuality and bisexuality such a big part of BioWare games compared to other RPGs?
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>>123724143
keep /bwg/, this shit's entertaining.
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>Pisses off Solas
>Pisses off his wives
>Pisses off tumblrinas
>Pisses off enemies of the homo mafia
The greatest thing to come of DAI and perhaps the entire series. Discuss.
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>>123724229
We've had the same exact argument each time we have /bwg/, it's not entertaining anymore
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>>123724263
I think you're mistaking her for Morrigan.
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>>123724172
Because a large potion of their marketing is focused on social media in an attempt to bring in new demographics.

Sexuality is a hot topic and there are a lot of angry people that will boycot companies they don't like and spend a lot on companies they do like.

I am no different, I like good stories and balanced and polished game mechanics so I don't buy new Bioware products.
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>>123723484
The only thing I've internalized is my bf's dick. How about you internalize this boot up your ass? I can't wait for homosex to stop being trendy so I can live in peace without some twerp bringing up how progressive he is and how much he can tolerate the gays. Just shut up and die already. Do you see homosexuals talk about how much they tolerate straight people? No? I wonder why. BECAUSE THAT'S TAKEN FOR GRANTED. How about instead of belittling homosexuals as if we were a class of toddlers you just let us do our own thing, eh?
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>>123724263
>ugly
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>>123724078
There's only, like, three of them, right?
The angry one, the sad one and the one who washed her hands of the other two?
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>>123724263
if she wasn't so lolrandumb i'd like her more. as it is she just pisses off everybody.

>>123724273
yeah but if we go back to /dag/ then we'll just change to '/dag/ was a mistake' and polls about trying /bwg/ again. we're in an endless cycle at this point.
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>>123723219
>What if I don't want to buy Bioware games if they don't cater to me anymore?
You and the 500 others who share that same opinion won't even make a dent on Bioware's revenue or game direction.
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>>123724487
>the one who washed her hands of the other two
Who now? They all seemed to be getting along fine from what I see.
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>>123724024
>Gay characters aren't destroying the gaming industry
They're destroying the west. Although Bioware doesn't seem genuine in their agenda. They just like to have someone to blame in case there's criticism, so now that there's plenty of niggers and gays in their games they can always blame them ebul racists, muh soggyknees and homophones for their awful metascore or whatever.
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>>123724441
I do not tolerate straights one bit. They are just the worst and I don't know how you can do it, mr spokesman.
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PLEASE shitpost faster so we can go back to being nice, dead /dag/...
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>>123724519
I like the way we've been alternating between the two.
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>>123724552
Only because tolerance comes in the form of letting a company ruin everything that you love.
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>>123724552
His point was not to boycott them. He was asking why he should buy a game he has no interest in.

What is your obsession with logical fallacies. All you have done is ad hominem and strawmen arguments.

You imply Bioware's gay characters are amazing for your own reasons and I am saying Biowares gay characters are poorly written and are only there to get the SJW dollar.

There is nothing wrong with gay characters, there is a problem with how Bioware writes and implements their gay characters.
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>>123724024
I think that problem lies in "quality over quantity" where they chose quantity. Most games are choosing quantity now a days, that's why DLC gets shit out like nothing.
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>>123724698
Didn't one of them tell the one or both the other ones to tone it down 'cause they were being rediculous? I think it was in the last /bwg/
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>>123724828
>Intolerance

Literally triggered, check your acceptance privilege, shitlord.
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Playing KOTOR again after a long time, which class of Jedi goes well with a dark side run?
I was thinking of going with Guardian, but I'm not sure
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>>123724905
right, i'm sure the evil sjw boogeymen audience is large enough to cause bioware and ea to focus mainly on them
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>>123724905
>He was asking why he should buy a game he has no interest in.
I'm not going to read your post because I was simply making a statement.
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>>123724552
So what? I don't care. How many SJWs with dyed hair are there anyway that buys their games just because of their "inclusiveness" and "diversity"? A hundred? Fifty?
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>>123724828
So it's bigotry and ignorance for a straight person to say they don't tolerate gays but it's okay for you guys to not tolerate straights?
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>>123724993
I'm quite sure it was two threads ago where they brought in the incorrect image limit, but that wasn't a solaswife. As far as I know they've all been posting as usual.
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>>123725267
Now you're getting it fagboy
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>>123725118
They are being used as part of their marketing. As soon as some one criticizes any part of their work they can go to their social media outlets and call their critics out as racists or homophobes and the SJW train runs all over the people with legitimate criticism. It isn't just about selling to the SJW demographic, they are literally using them as a shield to protect their shoddy work.

>>123725149
Your statement was a non-sequitur to the post you were quoting. I corrected you. I am sorry that you being wrong triggers you but that is a you issue not a me issue.
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>>123725291
No, I don't think it was then. maybe i imagined it...
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>>123725267
yes
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>>123725231
SJW are a dangerous crowd to upset, they've fed the lion and now that they realize they fucked up they can't stop because it will eat them if they try to stop feeding it.
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>>123724487
Looks like possibly four. Less outspoken one was chill and wasn't spammy. I don't know for sure, but I think she regularly lorefagged with me too. Maybe not.
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>>123725231
Your opinions will never change anything. It is simply fact.

>>123725423
I'm not wrong. Him not buying the game means absolutely nothing and he wastes his time even observing the idea that it has any true meaning. You're both being petty.
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>>123725267
It is also impossible for PoC's to be racist because it is okay to be racist against white people.
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>>123724828
hi mum
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>>123725559
that's right, because racism requires institutional power, which is something minorities don't have in america
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>>123725559
This is literally how some gay people think
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It's time for /dag/...!
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>>123725550
>Him not buying the game means absolutely nothing
THAT is petty.

His choice to not buy their games is not rooted in a hope to hurt Bioware, it is a personal choice because he no longer enjoys their games.

You seem to be projecting new meaning that isn't there. It means exactly what he meant it to mean. The fact that you don't like it or that it has no meaning for you doesn't diminish its true meaning.
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Is someone baking?
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>>123725640
Racism is passing judgement on others based on their race rather than their actions.

Implying that racism requires institutional power is classist.
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>>123725559
But only white people.
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>>123725820
There is no meaning, this conversation is inherently pointless, but we have reached bump limit so it has been fruitful.
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I hope everyone who posted in this thread dies, myself included
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>>123724969
>>123724024
I really like both of these posts. The reason I get so tired of all these discussions is because people are so quick to hone in on the gay characters and get mad at that as if they're the only one's being written one-dimensionally, especially the male ones. It's an issue with pretty much everything in the games, there are so many shortcuts being taken and getting by with just the bare minimum of effort. In just about every modern AAA game with a story-focus the writing and characters are pretty abysmal. Cortez whining about his husband was certainly not the worst character moment in ME3 Garrus and Tali were pretty fucking awful the entire way through, Mordin's 180 made no sense, Liara raping you, etc.
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>>123726096
We haven't reached page 10 yet. /bwg/ again please massa.
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Shit man. Playing through ME1 again and wondering why they didn't put this loot system in the DA games? So much more convenient for stuff to be automatically looted instead of having to stop and search around for the bodies that dropped it and then run over and pick it up and confirm a bunch of times. It's like they regressed in game design.
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I wish some of these angry self hating gays would post b******....
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>>123726213
>Liara raping you
woah woah woah
you're getting me excited
will she still rape me if i romanced her in the other games? do i have to call off our romance to make her want to hold me down and rape me?
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>>123726350
Has anyone ever actually posted one for you before?
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>>123726350
He's got a boyfriend anon
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>>123726504
We've gotten a hairy arse, a tummy, and a cock.
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>>123726096
The meaning is you missed the point. He stated a personal preference and you tried to value it based on Biowares potential profits.

You need to work on your interpersonal skills, your bigotry and hate are clouding your ability to connect with other people.
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>>123726151
everyone dies eventually. you'll get your wish one day, anon!
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>>123726708
>giving meaning where there is none
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>>123726409
>hold me down and rape me?

iirc it's not that kind of rape, it's gentle mind rape for the purpose of asari procreation disguised as a moment between friends
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>>123726954
>>123726954
>>123726954
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>>123723806
>ToB, I feel, is the by far the worst.
Agreed. I've never actually played any of the demos, bought the game because a trusted friend said it was good. Best gaming purchase ever. I don't know how many hours I've wasted on Baldur's Gate. I used to restart and try a new build before I even reached the city though. Only finally finished it a couple of years ago when I took the time to play it from start to finish.
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