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This should be legend card back 2bh.

>Deck lists, news etc:
http://tempostorm.com
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/
http://liquidhearth.com/

>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/
http://arenamastery.com/

>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com/
https://hearthrank.com/

>Watch and learn quest
Just post your region and battletag in the comments below and we'll help you out.

>Deck Tracker:
https://github.com/Epix37/Hearthstone-Deck-Tracker/releases
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>mad scientist is now a 1/2
>piloted shredder is now a 3/2
>muster for battle now makes two dudes
>mysterious challenger now fetches a maximum of two secrets
>dr. boom is now a 4/4
>shielded minibot is now a 2/1
>flamewaker is now a 2/3
>savage roar now costs 4
>justicar's Tank Up! now gains 3 armor
>lightbomb now costs 7
>life tap now costs 3 mana

there, i fixed hearthshit
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1st for what the fuck are you supposed to do here other than concede
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>>123485331
Hello reddit.
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>>123485410
just topdeck bgh like a true digital athlete
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>>123485331
You've met with a terrible shield, haven't you?
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>>123485410
Play acolyte and hope you draw brawl.
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>>123485331
>life tap now costs 3 mana

You'd need to buff warlock class cards accordingly if you make this change and don't want the class to be shit-tier.
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I've been thinking about mad scientist, the problem is just vomiting on turn two and bumping it into whatever for your free secret. What if the deathrattle only triggered if your opponent killed the scientists - akin to how secrets work now. Would that make it more balanced?
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>>123486313
>>>/reddit/
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>Can't stop playing brawl
Send help.
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>>123486479
Sorry, the only way to cure cancer is chemo.
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>>123486313
No it would make the card useless you fucking moron.
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>>123486479
>mage
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>>123485331
Kill yourself my man
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>>123486479
>literal constructed deck
kill yourself
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I find it funny that "in this meta" has become like the HS version of "in this economy" in that it doesn't really mean anything but it can be used to justify every kind of wild statements and crazy opinions.
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Why does everyone complain about Mysterious Challenger. All you have to do is attack face and you waste all his secrets.

It's so shitty. Easily the weakest aspect of the deck.

If I had to give it a compliment I would say that it thins out the deck making it easier for you to topdeck the good stuff.
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>>123487313
lol
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esports
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>mfw control warrior mirror
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Remember when this cancerous piece of shit was considered "le honorable class" and people would spam well met in these threads?
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>>123487313
"I never played against a secret pally but lol mysterio looks pretty weak"
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>>123487394
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB5amG5J7no&feature=youtu.be&t=27m35s
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So is there like some config file I need to delete or something? I don't understand here the disconnect is here.
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>>123487403

Honor is a fool's prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
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H O W do I play oil rogue?
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>have three (3) legendaries (Loatheb, Trade Prince, and I can't even remember what else) in rogue arena deck
>was offered pretty great choices
>draft and play carelessly because it's my third arena today
>just barely make it to 7 wins by the skin of my teeth

Who /notutilizinggoodrng/ here?
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>>123485410
Kill yourself faggot
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Have you ever got queued against a streamer before?

I hit Hafu in arena once and lost as Hunter. It was her, too, cause I checked after the match. This was back in beta I think
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>>123487742
Double poison and oil your 3/2 assassins blade. Hit face then blade spinny. You should have done 10 damage sometime before this.
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I got my Thanksgiving present. Seriously, this thing was absolutely based.

>three shieldbots
>two FOLLOW DA RULEZ
>two TAZDINGO
>almost every single fucking card was high tier value, no shitty cute cards, so many big fat bodies on nice lean mana costs
>the only cards that weren't quite straight up value were the flame juggler and flesheating ghoul and both of them were clutch at just the right times
>dragon consort into either hungry dragon or dragonkin sorcerer just kept fucking happening for stupid tempo
>kept pulling OP murlocs out of murloc knight
>even blessing of wisdom got some great mileage, when you have a gorillion fat bodies to stick it on it tends to last long enough

First loss was to the silliest aggromage draw I've ever seen, I was dead on turn 5 and that was with him at 30 life with every single one of my minion attacks towards his. Second loss was to a guy who had three legendaries in his deck, and got to drop four. Sylvannas into Chromaggus, Chromaggus duping The Beast of which he played a second copy after I burned my board to kill the first. Couldn't pull a Peacekeeper to deal with the second before I died in two hits.

I'm still salty about that tri legendary deck. The guy made some fundamental play mistakes in his opening turns but all his tempo screwups got fixed by Sylvannas stealing my Piloted Shredder which popped out a 4/3 Succubus, and then a few turns later Chromaggus, of which he only got one double draw off of, but that double draw happened to be The Beast, and then the second Beast rolled over my face.

At least he didn't pop a legendary out of the Shredder, although I guess none of the legendaries are really good at two mana. Seriously, fucking Succubus.
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>>123488097
>weren't quite straight up value
>flame juggler
does not compute
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>>123488097
Fucking Succubus indeed!
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It's probably under-tuned, but how is this idea?
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>all these horrible plays at dreamhack
jesus christ
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>>123488551
I realled loved that set in WoW
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>>123488551
young priestess is better most of the time and its not seeing play at all out of ten
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>>123487525
What ever happened with that, did he get the win in the end?

>>123487589
It's postponed this week because muh turkey eating day
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>>123488551
Make it, Deathrattle: Give the a friendly minion +1 Health and this Deathrattle.

Would be pretty neat to combo chain it if you can keep getting minions out
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>rank 4
>aggro mage
>aggro mage
>aggro druid
>face hunter
>mech shaman

WHEN THIS SHIT STOP
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>>123488470

Don't get me wrong, he's good, but he's no Knife Juggler for maximum value potential, especially in Paladin. An amazing turn 2 play when on the draw and facing an opposing early play, but mid to late game he's pretty bleh compared to his compatriots Mad Bomber and Knife Juggler.

But he's great to regain tempo early game when on the backfoot, especially against a bunch of screaming retard aggro X/1s.
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>>123489045
When you stop playing.
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>>123489045
Lmao I've just faced 4 control warriors in a row at rank 5
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>>123489045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCiFO7qV54E
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So far so good. Never played with Solemn Vigil, it's been really good. Mukla champ too.
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>>123489045
>Not teching against trends
Bearing that shield must be rough
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>play saboteur
>paladin is on 6 mana
>plays murloc knight
>awkward silence
>"Well met!"
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Anyone have Zetalots new Priest he's playing in this tourney right now?
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Watch and learn, Aethor#1307. NA.
Pls.
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>>123489045
>rank 19
>secredin
>Wallet warrior
Kill me
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How do you win control warrior mirror matchup?
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>>123489678
You play for fatigue and try to be as efficient as possible

Try to predict their threats and have removal handy and don't milk that acolyte for 3 cards
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>>123489678
how does the other guy win? you just circlej-uhm, "tank up"
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>when you draw based reno against aggroshitters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7t6rZUZmfE
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these casters are so fucking dumb

priest lost like 25 turns ago when he drew cards
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>>123490205
Somehow the other guy is always more efficient than me and has justicar on 6, every time
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mindcontrol the scientist pro plays right there
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WHY IS THIS WEEKS BRAWL A FUCKING ROPEFEST
PLAY ALREADY YOU FUCKING NIGGER
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>>123490493
should have played the zombie chow earlier desu
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Is this game good?
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>>123490494
Hmmmmmmmm....
Let me think...
So many possibilities...
I wonder...
What to do...
What now...
So many options...
I must consider...
Hmm... What to do...
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>>123485331
>fixing the meta by completely breaching the core game philosophy of fixing cards by shifting the meta and avoiding nerfs

u should really consider necking urself m8
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>>123490429
:^)
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>tfw don't have the last wing of naxx yet and opponents are fucking puzzled trying to figure out what secrets are on the field since avenge didn't proc
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>>123491119
literally negative win rate in legend
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>>123491119
>dropped ranks

L M A O
M
A
O
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What is it, /hsg/?
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>>123491252
>>123491434
>autism the post
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>>123491506
THRILLHOUSE MEMESTORM
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>>123491506
Greenskin
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>>123491506
PUT YOUR FAITH IN THE LIGHT
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>>123491506
always winds
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>>123491520
What's the matter, ran out of memes?
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>>123491506
eredar lord
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>>123486605
Sounds like his idea is in line with Blizzard's philosophy of nerfing cards.
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>>123491520
literally negative win rate in legend
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>play x cost minions/spells still aren't 60 gold quests

I know 2 of them can just be cheesed, but it's still usually more effort than a 2 win quest and they're auto losses that way, so they don't count for the 3 win reward.
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HOLY SHIT I DON'T BELIEVE THISA WHARIUHASUBDASNBDOIASNBIDHBAOUF ASDNFASN FÇLASF

I LITERALLY OPENED THIS SINGLE PACK WANTING A GROMMASH FOR MY PATRON DECK

THANK YOU JESUS
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>>123491506
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>>123491119
>post the single win you got
>not the 20+ losses
kek
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>>123491896
>autism the post
kek
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>>123491828
You're welcome
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>>123491828
>Disgusting golden

Dust that shit and craft the regular version
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>>123491828
grats senpai
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>>123491896
>>123491773
>>123491668

lelelele staymad austim kiddso kek lmao:^}
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>>123491937
>>123492040
>triggered samefag
lmao
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>this thread
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Seriously?
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>control hunters
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>>123492306
>no memes allowed on ranks higher than me, they make me feel inferior
>i want to be taken serious
get styled on
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>>123492306

get fucked tempo mage shitter
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>Just got memed on by Majordomo

Kill me
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>>123492306
>>123492509
>>123492516
Like how do these retards make it to legend? He literally played Mindcontrol Tech before Shrinkmaster While I had Mirror Image up.
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>>123492641
they play good decks to legend and after that nothing matters and they have fun. you should try it some time.
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>>123492641
Everyone makes mistakes eventually, anon.
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>>123492641
he got to legend, stopped caring and is now playing cheese to piss off tryhards like you
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What do I buy, 15 classic and 7 tgt or 22 classic?

Don't particularly want so many classic since you get them from rewards and brawls but tgt and gvg aren't great either.
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>>123492641

get fucked tempo mage shitter
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>>123492641
Face Hunter, see >>123491119
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>Shields up, red alert
>[Shredder noise]
>I see you
>Who am I? None of your business
>Hehehehahaha
>Put your faith in the light
>You win this one, friend
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>>123492961
>no turn 1 play
>no turn 3 play
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>>123492786
I'd lean towards more classic myself, TGT has so few good cards compared, it's really not worth it unless you're trying to get every card
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Kek
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>>123492432
>hunters
kek
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>>123493082
Are we posting deck names?
yours are shitty :-D
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>>123492961
Better and improved
>I FEEL ICKY
>SHIELDS UP RED ALERT
>FOLLOW THE RULES!
or
>REPORTING FOR DUTY REPORTING FOR DUTY REPORTING FOR DUTY
>[Angry machine noises]
>[Angry abomination noises]
>NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!
>Heuheuehueheuheu
>Put your faith in the light!

Fuck midrange.
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Brawl is the most fun way to play HS
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>>123493181
>he was still pointing the arrow at my face

I think his peanut of a brain had a little meltdown
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>>123493238
Automatically disqualified for actually buying portraits.
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>>123493369
>midrange
>icky
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>>123493238
I dusted a card in the shaman deck and forgot what I named it. The red X made me chortle.

Also I renamed the Reno warrior deck simply as 911
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>>123493493
dude stop hacking me
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>>123493082
>>123493238
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>>123493369
I always comprehended Sludge Belcher's entrance cry as something around the lines of "I'm still funny", not total gibberish.
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>>123493671
He says ''Tummy feel funny.''
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>>123493082

meh, i cant bring myself to ladder anymore
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Like sirously who plays wallet warrior?

watching a stone wall for 10 hours is more fun...
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Solitaire the deck
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>>123493953
>I'm poor, stop playing decks I lose against because they take long
just concede
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Damn, mine shaft is kicking my ass on normal mode. What the fuck. I feel like I'm having terrible rng in this.
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>>123494090
Are you under valueing hero power
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>>123493953
People who fucking suck at this game and think they can control the opponents turn
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Are there any /vg/ approved resources for learning the ins and outs of Hearthstone?
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>>123493238
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>>123494398
Did it just now, really seemed like I was having bad luck for a few games, double 6/6 a lot of the time and draw like only heals or only more draw, no aoe, sometimes no minions.
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>>123494069
im not poor you fucking faggot, but doing nothing is more fun than playing wallet warrior you retarded fucktard
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>>123494842
Whatever lets you sleep at night poorfag aggro shitter :)
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>>123493824
I usually stop at around there and start fucking around in tavern brawls and casual. Everybody above that has popular decks with every card and legendary they need for it. Kind of kills the fun to face the 3rd wallet warrior in a row with your F2P decks.
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>>123493953
Control warrior and face hunter are the same thing, just one rushes and the other stalls. Both are cancerous in that regard
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>>123494448
Trump Teachings.
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>>123494992
hhahahaha should i screenshot my collection for you retarded faggot?

nah youßre not worth it...

btw whinign about an aspect of the game is really underage, faggot
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>>123495204
>mad german
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>>123493953

I have fun playing wallet warrior, I enjoy wondering what is my opponent playing next and checking my options for counter play, I also enjoy playing long games.
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>>123495204
Stop pretending, it's okay to be poor. Just concede against wallet warriors and remember to emote "well played" when they emote "thank you"
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>>123495337
>underage international wasting all his pocket money on a casino card game =^)
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>>123495156
Are those videos still up to date?
They're a year old.
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How's everyone's Thanksgiving been?
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>>123495569
They mostly talk about trading/curve/mana and other basic stuff, not specific decks. I think.
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>>123495575
Wing 3-less
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>>123495575
Sorry I actually live in the real first world and we don't celebrate nigger holidays
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>>123495569
Yes they are. You also can watch iDraft as well to get a sense for arena. Those are newer
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>>123495392
>german perpetuating the stereotype of an angry country that uses smileys
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>>123495575

sorry but im white
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>>123495575
We had our thanksgiving over a month ago, but it was good.
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>>123487394
what the fuck happened to Darkwonyx. I'm certain he used to look pretty good back in ESGN days
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>>123491434
Damn,Kripp was a magnificent motherfucker back in the day!
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>>123495569
The game mechanics didn't change.
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I think reno paladin may actually be fucking viable right now.

Everyone tries to play around midrange and secrets and then you reno their face up and they dont know what the fuck to do
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>>123492625
Was it a mage?
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>>123491434
how the fuck does kripp manage to look asian and yet not.
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>>123496378
he's a gypsy
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holy shit it's literally MingLee
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in brawl we were both at fatigue then enemy priest mind controlled my malorne, but then i uldaman'd it, shadow madnessed it, and then crushed it
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masaan confirmed viewbotting by twitch admins on reckfuls stream
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>>123496681
Top kek
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>Play the new brawl once
>Turn 6 force of nature blood lust
>Mfw when
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>>123491434
>tfw in the second pic Kripp has the exact same hairline I have
>I'm going to look like him in the third pic soon enough

please no
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Post 'em
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>secret paladin
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>be me
>playing mill rogue
>cheese an opponent to death
>he was playing secret paly
>"a recent opponent would like to be your friend"
>timetobm.jpeg
>turns out he's a bretty swell guy who was just impressed I managed to beat him with a meme deck

Well that was unexpected...
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>senjin
>shit card nobody uses
>footman
>shit card nobody uses

>belcher
>great card that is used in 90% of decks

I just don't understand
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>>123497930
Your shield is appearing.
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>>123498106
tbf lots of dumb people thought it was shit before naxx came out
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This Tavern Brawl deck has lost once out of 12 games and it was against a deck that, as far as I could tell, was identical to itself.

Have fun.
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>>123497880
post your ladder dick
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>>123498106
maybe he's just new, huh faggot

>>123497930
that's because belcher is these two shits in one card, which somehow turns out to be great
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>>123498368
>somehow
why are you retards acting like this is some magical mystery? it's a taunt that dies and produces another taunt instantly. it's obviously amazing against any sort of aggro
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>>123498546
hoot hoot motherfucker
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Do you like the Patron Warrior deck after the Warsong Commander nerf?
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>>123497930
Basically it's good because aggro is a thing.
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>>123498582
after hoot hoot your 5 drop has the value of a below average 4 drop, and elsewise it's amazing. fucking shieldbearers
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So Reynads Zoo deck turned out to be a meme right
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>>123498586
new patron is fine
still strong against aggro
can still fill up the board but can't abuse that 1/2 attack minion on board
don't have to be afraid of playing minions because no more frothing otk
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>>123497930
Belcher is one card you have to play once, that your opponent HAS to kill twice (if he doesn't silence it) unlike Divine Shield Taunts that you only have to hit twice.

Belcher is also only one card that you have to draw and play vs two.
You would also never want to play Northshire Footman because it can't kill anything and gets killed by anything with 2 attack, which is every minion run in most decks bar Jeweled Scarab has at least 2 attack.

Sen'jin on the other hand is a fine choice for a taunt if you're missing Belcher as it can be played for less mana and can kill everything a Belcher can faster, but will hold up less minions when you need it to in a "stand or die" scenario.
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>vs control priest as ResidentSleeper priest
>this nigger thoughsteal x2 my dr 7
>i still won
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>>123498757
Turns out it was a deck that is only good in the hands of a very good player or just Reynad specifically, which when you're that good any deck can be called good if you can get wins with it.

Reynad's Shaman on the other hand is ridiculous and can literally steal games, but lacks strength against anti aggro decks or people who know what threats to kill, which varies on the build but generally stay the same.
Ooze and Harrison shut down the deck hard though
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>>123498295
>85% mech mage


Gee whiz, who'da thunk it.
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i ganged up my tirion twice in this brawl. i feel like i'm bm'ing the guy without meaning to
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>tfw i see people with 2000+ wins stuck at rank 13
>only have 200 wins and i just started paying for cards/naxx this week
>rank 9
how the fuck do people get stuck in those ranks
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>>123498586
I like it but it's really hopeless to play against control, especially warrior.
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>>123499752
They don't grind a lot I suppose. I get bored around rank 7-9 every season and then drop hearthstone for a week or so at times.
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>>123499752
Making their own decks like retards

And/or playing like my friends who just play things on curve without thinking about anything
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>>123496778
really? did he get banned?
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>>123499752
Quite normal. Many play very casually since the game started.
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All these stupid reno deck. Get out memed.
Also 5 wins till gold boys.
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>>123499752
how do you know they yave 2000+ wins?
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>>123499752
I have 220 wins from playing ranked until like rank 18 then just not playing the rest of the month

But other than that I hate the grind
If I play my murlocadin deck at rank 13 which I enjoy playing I just get a bunch of shit rng and play against mech mage, overload shaman, and secret pally
So it just gets pretty infuriating and I stop grinding

Its not like other games where you can play a lot, enjoy different things, and even improve
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>>123499994
no they can't prove that he's the one doing the viewbotting so they can't ban him

but he's getting viewbotted
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>>123500118
saw someone post in d2g about it yesterday

they posted their profile with 2000 wins and rank 13 3 stars
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>>123500186
maybe they didnt grind much that season? i've hit rank 3 before but i'm rank 15 curently since i dont play as much
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>>123499961
i play shit on curve like a tard and im rank 5

I play secret paladin
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>>123499752
Grinding the ladder is honestly very dull I can see why some people don't go for the free epic
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Anybody want to be coached through arena? If you are able to communicate with an iPhone compatible app, reply with your EU battletag and I'll get you to those 12 wins.
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>tfw find arena boring but constructed fun
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how do you want your enemies?
just give me those guys who take 10mins for every turn
you got it senpai
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guess whats the only golden legendary i've crafted, and guess whats the only golden legendary i've opened
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Is dragon priest any fun?
I think I just need to craft a Ysera and a light bomb to make it
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>>123501419
nope
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>>123501419

No, do control priest instead
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Alright guys I think I've hit the wall, Using a literal f2p druid deck I'm stagnating at rank 14 and cant really get past 13

What the fuck do I do now everyone I face is wallet everything
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>>123501584
i hit rank 3 with super aggro a year or so ago and i'm shit. it had more to do with how fast your matches are than anything
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>>123500949

:^)
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>>123501449
>>123501476
Hmmm okay I'll take a look at some net decks for that then
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what is the most cancerous class in the game and why is it mage?
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>>123501694
How am I supposed to play aggro hunter i presume without haunted creepers
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>>123501919
Nah Druid. I've won so many games thanks to innervate, tree men, and growl
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>>123501919
It's Paladin 2 bee frank
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What if there was a card with a battlecry that destroyed your hero power but granted you an incredibly decisive spell for use in end-game?

For instance:

Mage: Silence, then destroy the entire enemy board
Warrior: Gain 20 armor
Paladin: Fill your entire side of the board with 4/4s
Druid: Your hero permanently has like 4 attack and you also get 10 armor
Hunter: Deal 15 damage to the enemy hero
Priest: Heal your entire board to full and grant them like +3/+3, also fully heal your hero
Rogue: Equip a fucking ridiculous weapon
Warlock: Fill your hand with cards, and whenever you play a card you can draw another if your deck has any cards in it
Shaman: ???
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I don't know if it's just that i'm garbage, or if my decks are lacking in quality but i've been unable to climb past rank 4 for nearly a week now. I winstreaked down to 8, struggled a little bit to climb to 5 hit 4 and now i've been trapped in an endless loop of getting back up and then losing all over again. Are these decks strong enough to push into legend with or am I just shit?
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New guy here, is it worth playing arena, even though im not deck master? Or should i buy packs?
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>>123502023
So I destroy my hero power then just instantly win if i'm a Hunter/Rogue/Warlock. Sounds like a good idea that's been balanced properly.
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>>123502180
Obviously not those particular spells, but shit around those lines that keeps the theme of the hero power but makes it completely ridiculous.
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>>123502072
>I don't know if it's just that i'm garbage, or if my decks are lacking in quality
It's the former. Actually think about the games you play and just press "print" whenever a semi difficult choice comes up so you can review it later.
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How come Rogue has no AoE?

Blade flurry, Skulker, Vanish and that's it.

One requires a buffed weapon, the other requires undamaged minions, the the last one also wrecks you.
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>>123502180
honestly it sounds like warlock would just mill itself depending on how long the effect lasts
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>>123501919
Too many bullshit spells
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>>123502023
this is the worst OC I've seen. it turns the game into one deck from each class and whoever pulls this off first wins.

just fix justicar truehearts better hero powers and people will use them
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>>123501919
because they literally don't have to play the game
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>>123501919
it's druid
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>>123502346
You forgot Fan of Knives.

Also, Flurry itself can be as powerful as you want it to, and it hits heroes. Flurry is pretty fucking powerful.
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EVERY FUCKING GAME

A FUCKING SHAMAN
WITH THAT TROGLODYTE FUCK
STOP
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Stopped Hearthstone when TGT came out.

I just watch some streams, and it seems the trend is now fatigue control warrior decks with Reno and shit.

And a lot of people complain.

This goes to show that Hearthstone isn't fun, after all. No matter what meta will exist, it will be boring as fuck to play, because the game trapped itself in its own rules.

It was good while it lasted.
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>>123485410

>Do nothing but hero power for first 3 turns

>Enemy uses 4 cards + coin + all of their available mana to get a strong board out

>Upset that you have no board control
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>>123503026
People are going to complain no matter what; that is the absolute worst metric to judge a game by.
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>facing a constructed tier dragon priest in arena

oh good, dr 1 through 3 made me want to punch myself already
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>trump heals for 34
>has board control as games
>still loses to freeze mage

Holy shit mages can suck cock
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>>123503152
Except that the crying part is the majority one. That's where you should start to worry.

Of course, if you play Magic The Gathering you will have that guy who says he hates Blue and control decks, but that's like the exception.

I've never seen so much hatred about decks and strategies than in Hearthstone, but I understand. The game is frustrating after some while. VERY frustrating, to the point you can't enjoy the game anymore because you feel you're playing some kind of coinflip fiesta.

And I'm saying that as a guy who used to do good results at tournaments.
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What makes Trump so fun to watch?
I never watch Twitch/Youtubers and he isn't particularly funny overall but I can't stop watching him
I guess he's kind of insightful?
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>>123503026
>it seems the trend
Retard.
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Since when does Unearthed Raptor break the game? My opponent played it and now there's no timer so he's trying to stall me out.
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>>123503573
The client died and you've already lost. All you can do is exit out and go back on. It's still broken despite them saying they fixed it
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>>123503365

its balanced because mages are faggots
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Are there any recent statistics about Hearthstone's playerbase, popularity and stuff?
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>>123503941
Blizzard isn't going to shoot itself in the foot by releasing those numbers.
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>>123485331
(puke)
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>playing spells deck vs warrior
>playing slow, waiting to get maximum value from my effigy/ duplicates off of antonidas/ rhonin
>draw antonidas with 5 cards to go
>on 30 health + 5 armor
>opponent goes into fatigue
>dupes my antonidas
>plays alex
>no longer have enough life to survive the long game, despite having a ton of firepower to last
>lose

Why can't this game feel better in defeat? He won solely because of Alex.
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blizz is gonna nerf paladin, right? ;_;
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>>123504519
In about 6 months of course and that will only be for dr 6, not the cancer that is mid range paladin either.
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I fucking hate the arena. Why do I even play anymore. The literal best card I got was a chillwind yeti, and thank fuck I have two of them. There was NOTHING I could do to make a good deck, even in retrospect. My first opponent busts out snowchuggers, coldarra drakes, flamestrikes, polymorphs. My only removal was rockbiter.
What the fuck am I supposed to fucking do
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>>123504369
>mage gets wrecked


This will never not make me smile.
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>>123503504
I like his stream because he's such a boring and failed person that the only thing he actually has to talk about is the game. Compare that to Reynad, Forsen and all the other faggots.
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I hit rank 5 but dropping a back to 7 while fucking around, will I still get the rank 5 chest or do I have to grind back up?
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dark peddler in zoo.

Is it worth it.
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>>123504838
It doesn't matter what class I post about, someone will shittalk it, no matter what. It's inane.
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>>123504762
>A new arena run!
>"oh boy!"
>choose between warrior, hunter or priest

And it's only going downhill from there.
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>>123505053
Yeah.
Zoo has shitload of good 1 drops and a 2/2 body is actually not that bad in a deck that has so many buff cards.
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>>123504041
It actually seems that it's rising rapidly lately. That's why I'm asking. Also I know that they release stats about WoW every 4 months or so, so I guess they might do that for hearthstone as well.
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A friend from steam gifted me a new vegas ultimate edition this thanksgiving. Is it any good? Will this work on my windows 7 32 bit shitty pc. Kinda want to try it because i got burned out playing hearthstone yesterday. from rank 7 to 12
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>>123501329
honest question

why craft a golden lego?
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>>123504954
you have the rank 5 chest, don't worry. check it yourself at the quest log
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Sylvannas walks in
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>>123505401
Greetings.
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>>123505165
How do you deal with it? Do you take your loss and suck it up? I don't have that much gold.
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>>123504369
>He won solely because of Alex.
no, he won because you played greedy
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>>123505165
hunter is fine
quit complaining
>>
Playing rank 2+ what is good against druid, paladin and warlock
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>>123505739
Hunter is still the second worst arena class.
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>>123495575
>Rag hits hero behind 6 dreadsteads
Esports baby.
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>>123505480
no more deathrattle. the hype is real.
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>>123505812
what??? hunter is average
rogue, paladin, druid, mage are top
warlock, priest, warrior are bottom
shaman and hunter are ok
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>>123505480
I still don't know what to cut for this and Museum Curator.
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>>123492961
>I'll never tell
>Shields up, red alert
>Put this apple on your head
>Reporting for duty, Reporting for duty. Reporting for duty
>[retarded murluc noise]
>I see youuuuu
>Who am I? None of your business
>Hehehehehahaha
>Put your faith in the light
>I give up
>>
Why is Mirror Image so sexy
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>>123505784
I farmed it to legend with secredin, but I think midragedin will do the job better since there are Way too many Warlocks and CWs out there as you noticed.
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>>123506282
>1 sw:d
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>>123506412
>playing rogue
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>>123506094
Not only can he not rely on beast synergy but his hero power does not affect the board at all (which is more important in the minion heavy and slower arena) nor does it give him card advantage like warlocks.
That is why hunter has always been a pretty bad arena class. He's only marginally better than warrior because he can at least race to lethal with steady shot but that requires him to set up the board first which is much more difficult than with other classes tools.
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>>123505127

fuck off mage shitter
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>>123505275
Way better idea to play NV rather than hearthstone.
Especially if you played fallout 1 and 2.
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>>123506423
Because Jaina.
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>>123506454

versing little to none control warriors, infact i think i versed around 5 paladins in a row, all varying in aggressiveness
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Just got this in a pack, it's basically dust neatly packaged in card form, right?
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>>123507008
Yes, enjoy your 1/4 legendary.
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>>123507008
she is going to suck that horse.
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>>123499313
You get mad when someone posts something bad and just as mad when someone posts something that wins every game.

Up to 19 wins out of 20 by the way. Stay mad, /hsg/.
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>>123506454
also its kinda funny how it can go full circle where rank 7 and up your versing the worse shit and at rank 1 you can even verse the worse shit by some legend player with thousands of points and it can randomly beat you
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>>123506976
dunno, I was facing a control warrior like every 3 games on EU
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>>123507008
I 'd keep it for the memes, but if you need dust for actual cards then dust it.
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>Fatigue mage vs Zoolock
>both drawing fatigue cards
>YOU FACE JARAXXUS
>continues until she puts me at 1 health again
>I AM MALGANIS

I cant stop this feeling. Deep inside of me.
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FUCK. Can anyone help me doing Watch and Learn! quest? Thank you.
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>>123508003
You have to post tags and region
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>>123508003
forgot to post battletag:
Quetzal#2786
Europe
Thank you in advance guys.
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guys, I can't wait to meme all over everyone with the new murlocks.
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>>123508307
Yes you can
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Why is everyone playing druid on arena?

Are they just trying to ramp to good free magic?

Did some streamer do this first?
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>>123506959
Not Jaina. Tits too small
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Dont have malganis

Have Jaraxxus while I wait
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>tfw you open a Thalnos

What deck should I build now?
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>>123508147
Got help already, thank you!
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I did it finally.
What next?
Mage?
Shaman when murlocs are out?
Face?
Rouge?
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>>123508762

congrats man
>>
Why is the thread so dead? ;_;
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Arcane Golem or Argent Rider?

>Wulfrider replacement
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>>123509767
ded game
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>>123508467
Druid has always been a top pick in arena

Rogue, mage, druid and paladin are must haves if you get the choice of them
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>>123508762
You're now a officially approved c.u.c.kold dragon dildo faggot
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>>123503865
Pretty sure they only fixed the exponential death rattle copying with brann
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>>123509887
I'm sorry, I goofed. I meant tavern brawl.
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>>123509870
Arcane Golem for sure
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>>123509894
This is reno control priest.
but i like dragons too
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>>123509921
ah right forgot about that
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>>123510042

Wont ramping your opponent for a charge minion be bad for me?
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So boys which bot do you use ? Which is the easier to find cracked ? I use heartranger but this 4hour lock unless you pay is so annoying.
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>>123510163
If you are playing agro it really does not matter if you ramp them if you kill them a turn later
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How does a guy that has his skin ripped apart and sewn back together have such immaculate teeth?
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>>123510513
>immaculate

Are you british?
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>>123509767
This game is dying in case you haven't noticed yet.
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>>123510317

I'm a Zoolock

I understand your logic. But going balls to the wall Aggro is more hit/miss than a midrange looking for a charge to buff that will die later

My T4 is almost always Wulfrider, Power Overwhelming, Face, pass.

I could keep doing that since Argent is weakening my punch. But golem for 1 extra damage while ramping my opponent T4 seems dicey as fuck.

Also, Argent has a better chance at living past a turn if I have something to hide behind and dont have to PO it.
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>>123510513
Better question: what the fuck is wrong with that face?
Something is wrong with it but i can't put my finger on it.
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How many arena wins should this take me to if I'm not an absolute shitter?

Deathwing over Reno was the right choice, right?
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>>123510792
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Ok guys, I have enough dust and gold to craft

>Justicar
>2 LOE wings
>Finish Mid Range Paladin

or

>Anthonydas
>Wings 3 and 4 from BRM
>Finish Tempo Mage

What do?
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>>123487958
Made Zilea ragequit one time by running skillstrike in mech mage. Tuned in just in time to catch the end of my game.
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WHAT DO U THINK OF MY AMAZING OC GUYZ?
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>>123511141
I'd say go Mage route.
But I like mage dick.
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>>123510950
A few really strong cards but you probably wont go too far without any aoe, i would guess 5 wins. Deathwing was correct
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>>123511857
>fatigue warrior vs fatigue warrior
>4 games of pong
>game lasts literally forever
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>>123511857
>/reddit/
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just got legend with this

my favorite is coin voidcaller into shredder into doomguard
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>>123512013
>Rogue Card
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>>123512013
It's a rogue card you dip
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>>123512143
remember when every pro said dark peddler would be bad because they've literally never been right about anything

especially Amaz
>>
>watch and learn quest
>only person on my friends list still playing is not very good
>spectate him
>he loses his first game so I lost interest
>start doing something else and I forget about it
>come back to this
>open my pack
>this happens

Man, I'm such an asshole.
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>>123497880
havnt played much this month
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>>123511141
Wait for the meta to settle after all of LoE is released.
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>>123512143

I have the exact same list but I get btfo with it by secret pallys and reno

any tips
>>
>>123512586
i wish i had that many friends
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>>123512470
Just thank him the next time he's online.
>>
>Matchmaking not rigged u just salty XD
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>>123511857
>Rope
>Bots will win everytime
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>>123512819
yes, and almost paranoid
>>
I just witnessed literally the most unfortunate player i have ever seen in my life in tavern brawl.

turn 5: summoning stone with a pyromancer out
-> claw -> summoning stone spawns another pyro. kills both.
-> 3 damage to all minion sspell -> stone spawns justicar trueheart. kills it instantly.
-> confuse ->stone spawns lightwell. kills both on resulotion
-> concede

hilarious
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>>123513026
>Complaining about claw, when pyromancer x2 does the same job
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>twitch memes
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>>123513312
>dealing 2 damage to the whole board and killing your Pyro is the same thing as 1 AoE Dmg and 2 Targeted Dmg
>>
Trump can literally fuck right off with this Reno memedecks.
>>
>>123513717
I wish the defensive classes besides Mage could have secrets.
Would make sense because of Shadow magic being all mindgamesy and stuff
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>>123513717
>autism the post
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>>123513717
>1 friend
>hunter
lol
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>>123512143

>copied deck
>dont have malganis
>Play voidcaller
>its death pulls Jaraxxus instead of the doomguard.

replacing those with something else until I get my Malganis.
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>>123512615
never keep an egg without an activator

never keep an activator without an egg
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>>123513846
kek this game just now

>"uuaghhh why am I playing such a bad deck??"
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>>123489613
Help.
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these fucking flavortext man
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>>123512145
>>123512354
ooops I can't into borders
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>>123514515
i dont get the joke on mounted raptor
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>>123514741
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>>123514741
Jurrassic park reference
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>>123514115
Not the same guy but I hate almost everyone I play against in this game. If I add someone as a friends it's either to complete the watch and learn quest or to go tell them to kill themselves.
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>>123514883
so why dont you add your real life friends

you do have those right? I mean you play hunter but it isnt true that ALL hunter players are unlikable sperglord faggots right?
>>
>play 4 aggro decks in a row
>decide to play anti aggro deck I made
>play 2 control decks

Fuck you blizzard.
>>
>>123515049
>add your real life friends
anon I dont think this autist as any
>>
>>123514515
The fuck is that first one supposed to reference?
>>
>>123515118
>>123515049
Not that guy, but fuck you. Some people don't have many friends that play hearth.
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>>123515049
I have irl friends I play with in league
But they don't play hearthstone
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>>123515119
do we REALLY need to explain it?
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>>123515218
>league AND hearthstone
ultra casual detected
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>>123515049
>>123515118
Most of my friends don't play Rngstone, they play other shit that's actually fun.
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>>123514515
Remember someone is paid to make this
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kek and all this meme stuff
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>>123515369
who wins in that scenario?
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>>123515369
Why would you play cancer in legend? Isn't that the fun zone?
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>>123515302
not him but I feel like a super casal myself.
>grind, play with friends
>switch game
>grind some more, play with friends on server
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should i craft archmage for this shit deck?

how can i improve it? (i don't really want to buy brm for flamewakers but I figure it's kinda key for these decks so i might have to)
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>>123515447
Got defeated, but don't lost any points so guess it was an draw
>>
>>123515302
man you sure got me
>>
>>123515049
Literally go kill yourself.
>>
>>123515489
Nah faggot Hunter is fun, this game was made for aggro but kids like you cry and shitpost all about control here control there
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>>123515634

haha look at this loser. probably receives autismbux too
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>>123515745
>smash face
>fun
I just wish I could actually hit stuff with daggers as rogue for once without the threat of being zerged down.
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>>123515804
>is on an imageboard that discuss children's card game
>calls other people losers
Alright there Chad settle down.
>>
>>123515857
>how do i win games

Yes you fucking faggot just smash his face in, like in real life

THIS IS FUN
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>>123515991
Hello reddit
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>>123515531
Go for a more mech mage approach, tempo mage wont work if you don't have flamewakers. Archmage works in mech mage also
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>>123515531
Loatheb instead of Rivendare.
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>tfw you get two legendaries that you needed in the same night
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didn't know le autistic asian man played the piano
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>all these LITERAL friendless autistic faggot tears
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>tfw Dad hasn't streamed in 8 years
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Remember when Thrall and Uther were supreme honorable dudes, playing shitty midrange decks and giving us stars?

What happened man.
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>>123516604
I'm not friendless. I just don't have any friends that play video games.

Who /workforce/ here?
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>>123516593
Not only that, he's pretty decent at it too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci0um6j4I-c

I'm actually kinda looking forward to hear him today.
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>>123515531
Get rid of mech yeti and put in piloted shredder dummy.
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>>123505379
thanks senpai
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>>123516724
>it's pre-recorded
J U S T
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>>123516628
>watching forsen
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>>123516831
>tfw inner fire
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>>123516724
>You will never watch Trump take your girl to value town
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>>123516831
>9 hp
Why?
It becomes a fuck huge taunt with Argus or Sunfury, and you can't even kill it with the self harming AoE like Elemental Destruction, Hellfire, or Excavated Evil, which is only used in 3 classes
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>>123513962
Nah faggot you just want more OP stuff for your already gay OP class
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reno mage has really changed the meta
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>>123516831

so give the priest something to inner fire.

Might as well give it more health and taunt. that way, they can buff their free card and you get to see them create a free wall.

>aggro main OC creators thinking they know how to save the game.
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>>123516604
Hello reddit
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could I spectate somebody here so that I can complete the spectate quest?
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>>123517305
Post your tags and region first, jeez
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>>123517131
>Priest
>OP
Only if you're some hyper aggro nigger that lets me heal off your shit damage and set up a giant taunt because you're too braindead to trade or run a deck that can't
Hope you like Excavated Evils into Circle Heals :^)
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>>123517364

n0lif3 #1614

NA
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Anybody else trying out Brann in Control Warrior decks? Any luck with him?
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>>123517498
literal power creep
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>>123517285
>triggered memelord redditor
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What deck uses Forgotten Torch? It seems like a swell card.
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>>123517498

>Aggro main OC who thinks they can save the game

How's that job application to Blizzard going. Would love to see more power creep like this.

That's where the money is.
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>>123517593
The murloc tag is more valuable than beast :^)
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>>123516604
this honestly should be Renos audio
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>>123517436
Hello reddit
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>>123517593
that means I'm doing it right :^)

>>123517721
lmao!!
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>>123517678
Only a staple in freeze mage but can be worked into any other mage deck
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>>123516913
>>123517087
>>123517216

holy shit autists its a joke card featuring a character from a wow R34 comic. The joke being that all the enemy minions join your side when they see Monara and the minions adjacent to her are spit roasting her and therefore unable to attack

fucking spregs the lot of you
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>>123517593
>literal power creep
No way that would happen. Blizzard are actually good game designers.
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>>123517926
>being an autistic weeb
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>>123517926
s-source?
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>>123516638

They learned how to play the game.
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>>123517729
It would be if this existed
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>>123518242
OP
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>>123517926

>using Dr. Graveling's WOW character for a porn card
>not making obscure porn jokes in the card

Then make it a 0 drop for 6/9 :monsters adjacent to Monara can't attack. Monara Can't be Silenced. (Sex screams all night)

Must I do everything around here?
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>>123517863
Woah... this is actually pretty well-made...
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>>123485331
Nah, mate. Too far (and I hate secret pally as much as the next guy).

>Mad Scientist is now 3 mana
>Piloted Shredder is now a 4/2
>Mysterious Challenger pulls 3 secrets
>Boom is 7/5
>Minibot's alright)
>Flamewaker is fine
>Savage Roar costs 3 But FoN costs 7
>Justicar 'tank up' is fine
>Lightbomb is fine as is, it destroys his own stuff so, you know.
>Life tap is fine as is
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>>123518357

cant attack. Monsters adjacent to Monara can't attack. Monara can't be silenced.

0 mana, 6 attack, 9 health. 100% porn lockdown.
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>>123518301
>3 mana conditional that's outclassed by 2 other cards in the same class
Nah
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>>123518686
So how is 3 mana deal 6 damage worse than 2 mana deal 3 damage or 5 mana deal 5 damage?
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>>123518551
>would make him shit
>no, 3/3
>I'd rather if you made him either a 5/5 or 7 mana
>no, make him 7/7 spawn one boom bot on battlecry, then another on deathrattle
>I kinda disagree but I see no way to nerf it without killing the card
>definitely
>Savage Roar is OK, Thaurissan is what needs to be fixed
>I disagree somewhat but also see no way of nerfing Tank Up without making it useless like Hunter's upgraded power (even though they're obviously different decks)
>Lightbomb is really annoying but I agree it needs no nerf
>Yes
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>>123518740
Overload =/= Mana.
You can use both Lightning Bolt and Lava Burst at 4 mana, it wouldn't work if you they were 2 and 5 mana
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>Play Nefarian
>Steals Sacrificial Pact
>Enemy plays Jaraxxus next turn
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>>123518930
shut the fuck up already jeez
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>>123518936
>play Nefarian
>don't get shit
>opponent plays Jaraxxus
>start spamming Thanks and Sorry
>they concede
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>>123518992
No, fuck you. Someone asked a question and I answered it.
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what would you guys say are the top 3 most powerful heroes right now

I would say Paladin > Warrior > Druid
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>>123518930
you are spending mana from your next turn
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>armor caps at current hp

are warriors fixed?
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>>123518930
are you legit autistic
why are you ignoring the Overload mechanic?
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>>123519175
>Killing the class against Aggro
How about no
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>>123519124
But it's still 3 damage for 2 mana vs 3 damage for 3 mana.
The conditions have to be met so you get rewarded, thus the 6 damage for 3 mana, whereas Lava Burst is more reliable for a harsher penalty.
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>>123519175
>destroys a class
>hurr guys did I fix it
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wow. fuck this game. this is some serious degenerate bullshit. even though I vastly outplay my opponents, I keep fucking getting streaked because of RNG. fuck this.

>inb4 HUUUR rank 25

No, I'm actually 3 (was, since I quit this shitty game)

Does anyone want my account? It has all both Naxx and BRM and also a bunch of cards
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>>123516831

Kreygasm

I forgot about this Draenei cum dump.
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>>123519350

For free?
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>>123518018
>those picks
Thanks for reminding me why I don't play arena.
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Have you guys tried Obsidian Destroyer in control warrior?

The card is very underrated, honestly. It's wonderful against aggro and ok against control.

I'm climbing quite fast with a list that uses 2 of them instead of boom
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>>123519350
I'll take it. Zanic#1490 NA
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>>123519437
heckler is okay
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>>123518242

SMurloc
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>>123519414
yes

>>123519478
added you
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>>123519441
would be fun to play with hogger
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>>123519441
>It's wonderful against aggro
>7 mana summon something cushier than a fucking goldshire footsman
nah
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>>123519441
I haven't had a chance to run with it yet, but I thought it would be very good in a control warrior deck?

Are you running bolster or more of a wallet style warrior?
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>>123519205
Because I've actually been playing Shaman lately and know how Overload works: You spend less mana upfront so you can burst your opponent from a lower mana total on your current turn.
You can Lava Burst + Lightning Bolt someone from 4 mana as opposed to 7 mana.
This is a huge difference especially when you're already Overloaded from the last turn or need to dump your hand for lethal.

It's the same reason people use Sludge Belcher over Sunwalker because X+5 =/= 5+2.
The damage has to be spread differently and so it is a different case.
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>>123519175
that would do nothing to fix the control matchup and only buff the aggro matchup, which should never happen under any circumstance

aggro shitters honestly just need to either get good or fuck off with their horrible suggestions
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>>123519594
Wallet warrior, this is the list I'm using (I'm currently 6-0 with it (played mostly agains tempo mage/secret pally/face hunter, which is why I'm not running BGH)

>>123519584
It sounds really bad but it's actually ok. Better than Boom, at least.
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>>123519716
my gripe is actually fatigue warriors
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Post cards that will never EVER be used
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>>123519572
Don't think I ever got an invitation
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Could Elise Starseeker see play in Renolock?

What other decks tend to cycle through their entire deck regularly, increasing the chance of discovering the golden monkey

Control warrior? Priest?
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>>123519716
>>123519847

what if Fatigue damage ignored armor then?
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>>123518807
>Scientist
I dunno man, think about it like this. mage secrets are 3 mana anyway, so you're essentially paying for the secret and getting a free 2/2 out. Hunter secrets are such tempo swings that they should probably be 3 mana anyway. But without doing that, making sure they can't fuck you by turn 2 by playing a scientist (which they hard mulligan for), they're still getting a 1 mana discount.

>Challenger
To be honest, I'd make him a legendary if it were up to me. But 7 mana seems fair if he pulls all secrets.

>Boom
Yea, I kinda like the idea of that. Not a nerf, but makes it more of a thoughtful play to put him on board, rather than "when it's turn 7, play him"
>Thaurrisan
Yea, it's a tough one. But they're going to run it anyway. But with my suggestion, they can't do the 22 damage combo without Thaurrisan.

>Tank up
They armoured up and passed a lot before Justicar existed. I think it's fair to have it do 3 armour since after 2 turns of tank up, they've gotten 3 turns of armour up.
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I don't understand how people can stand playing against Control Warrior... It's so boring... And I play mech mage, which is far from being an aggro deck
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>>123519884
I don't really understand why not. If you have Ice Block in play it will be a 5/5 for 4 guranteed
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>>123519962
>build a deck
>you put good cards in that you want
>mostly even synergetic ones
>throw it all out for a minion only deck
>BUT THEY BE LEGEND

Elise can never be good.
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>>123520104

Mages that use ice block dont care about developing a board though
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>>123519962
the problem with elise is that on average you will get the golden monkey with 2 cards left in your deck.

even if you get it early all your removal and board flips are changed into potentially clunky and slow cards which may outright lose you the game if you lose board control

not saying that it WONT be played but as of now it seems like its simply too slow and gimmicky to see any real play
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>>123519716
Planeswalkers ruined Magic.
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>>123520163
There's a new Aggro Mage that runs it.
Surprised I haven't seen them use this.
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>>123520153

How many bad legendary cards can you name?

Its obviously meant to be a late game play, when you can play a 4 mana 6/6 with taunt and the game looks grim, then suddenly the 7 cards you have left (half of which may be useless like low drop minions or draw effects that'll only fatigue you faster) suddenly become crazy good.
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>>123519884
it has been used before on very gimmicky decks when mad scientist was released
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>>123519884
Dust Shadow Form, 1 Bane of Doom (have 2), lock and load, golden savage combatant (have regular one) and Anub Arak for Justicar?
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>>123519993
Armor should only block physical attacks. Spells go through.
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>>123520273
>tfw get 6 milhouses
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It's a shame Reno will never be nerfed despite being as broken and non-interactive as pre-nerf Patron decks and Leeroy.
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>>123520104
>Ice Block
only freeze mages use that.
not the guy you're replying to, but I've tried countless times making a secret mage deck, with secretkeeper, mad scientist, arcanist, the other 3 4/3 dude, the 2/4 gnome bitch that heals you if you have a secret, etc., and it simply doesn't work. even if you put some early game cards like unstable, mana wyrm, etc. it ends up being too damn slow (or not fast enough against control decks)

plus the card says AT THE END OF YOUR TURN, which means bgh as soon as you pass
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>>123520335
Didnt mean to quote, although I guess responding to a post about dustable cards is appropriate for my question
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>>123519962
>Roughly get the monkey in the last 5 cards
Not gonna see play

If it refilled your deck with legends it would create fatigue decks but from what we know it just replaces existing cards.
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>>123520358
if you think reno is broken you are literally bad at the game
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>>123520373
correcting myself, only control mages use that
and trust me, I've tried using Ice Block with him
it simply doesn't work lel
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>>123520273
It's not a matter of legendary cards being bad, even though a great many are. It's a matter of losing your removal cards, your life gain/security cards, your win condition cards, etc.
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>>123519716

>That -12 effect on Jace

Does that just essentially remove his entire deck from play and then cause his hand to become a new deck that he'll draw back one turn at a time?

Holy shit

Also how does Entrat the angels work? Do you pay as much mana as you want after the 3 white mana cost or is it always 2 of any mana and you summon 2 4/4 white angels?
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>>123520358
This is fucking true i even think reno is the most broken card is this game right now heal 29 for 6 mana wtf come on
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>>123519884
My boy illiadin will never see play the way he is now. They need to revamp a lot of cards to make them playable in todays meta but as if blizz would do that when they take months to nerf a deck that kills the meta
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>>123520462
>decent stats
>heal to full hp and the only condition being you don't have duplicates in your deck
>not literally broken
fuck off warriorkuk.
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>>123520462
He singlehandedly beats an entire classification of decks and they have no control over it other than getting lucky enough to kill the other player before they draw him.
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how can i improve this? am willing to dust pretty much anything
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>>123520462
>autism the post
Said the faggot who plays reno ofc
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>>123520629
>Beat their face in
>They heal
>Beat their face in again because they didnt affect the board
It only punishes aggro shitters that rely on top decking burn spells to get their skillful kill, you aren't an aggro shitter right?
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>>123520629
kuktrol sounds better m8

>>123520671
you need grommash
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>>123520578

The point of the golden monkey is that its an option when the game looks bleak, rather than play it when you're ahead and fuck your deck up

Realistically, she's a TazDingo without taunt. Fine, fair enough. Weaker than Sen'Jin, but she trades with shredder and lives, makes your deck 2 cards bigger to stave off fatigue, and gives you access to a 4 mana 6/6 taunt late game.

The point of the golden monkey being an amazingly cheap minion is that it lets you come back when you're gonna lose if the game looks bad.


Its the opposite of a "Win more" card which so many new cards fall into. Its a "claw your way back" card
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>>123520652
Face needed a direct counter.
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>>123520739
sorry, I didn't know you were actually retarded :)
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>>123520739
Because control decks totally just ignore the board and let aggro control it from turn one, right?
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>>123520629
>have to build your deck around an entire card which then makes your deck less consistent compared to more rounded decks
mad aggro babby?
no good warrior even runs reno
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>>123520671
Swap Chromaggus for Grommash. Looks like perfect dragon warrior otherwise.
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>>123520652

If you over extended so hard that you've got no steam left, and he reno'd so that you've effectively lost, well tough shit

Play a more consistent deck rather then "IF I DRAW MY SHIT EARLY GAME I CAN BURST PEOPLE BEFORE THEY INTERACT"

Now THATS interactive. Fuck aggro

Go be poor somewhere else
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>>123520817
>control warrior, dragon priest, oil rogue, freeze mage didn't exist before Reno
literally retarded

>>123520865
>implying you have to builkd your entire deck around him
>doesn't know people just run him, wait to draw all their precious duplicates and then play him
see above
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>>123520756
>>123520879
do i need to add any activators or will deaths bite do fine
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>>123520739
>make an entire deck filled with cards that can do damage on the turn they are drawn
>am supposed to feel bad for dealing damage with a card on the turn its drawn
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>>123520864
It's much easier for aggro to control the board early just going off of mana cost, throw in the fact that reno means you can rarely use duplicates then it becomes even easier to beat them in the early game
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>>123520817
No it did not but you cried so much on reddit so they gave you the meme card
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>mind control tech stole tiron from aggroshitter
WELL MET
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>>123520589
jaces -12 is the only noncontested win condition in the game but you very rarely are able to get it off because the only decks which can make him work generally have a deathgrip on the game several turns before you have enough loyalty and people concede long before you can cast it

Entreat of angels summons x=3white + 2y where X is # of 4/4s and y is any mana if you hard cast it and x=2white + y if you draw it as your first card (which happens quite often due to pic related)

its actually an extremely fun deck to play and along with lantern control is one of the only true control decks playable in magic
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jesus fuck the redditor aggro babbies are at it again
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>>123520973
>If you over extended so hard that you've got no steam left, and he reno'd so that you've effectively lost, well tough shit
great argument retard

>Play a more consistent deck rather then "IF I DRAW MY SHIT EARLY GAME I CAN BURST PEOPLE BEFORE THEY INTERACT"
LOLOL JUST SWITCH DECKS BRO!!!

I swear, Renotards are worse than people who thought nerfing PW was a good idea
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>>123521046
>stole tiron from aggroshitter
i dont get it
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>>123521116
fuck off retard
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>>123521230
shit your diap again?
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>>123521230
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>>123521302
stop projecting, cucontrol. everyone knows only literal children need cards that punish them for trading badly and missing board control, which is people who use Reno. stay mad your precious get-out-of-jail card gets nerfed soon, though

>>123521397
stop samefagging
>>
honestly its a shame aggro didn't just get a counter card, it got a nullifier card

simply because aggro decks were fairly cheap to make, relatively easy to understand and as a result allowed new players to actually enjoy the game long enough to get more interesting decks

I fear that without these entry level decks the playerbase is going to stagnate quickly
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>>123521125

>You will never be this poor and mad

Look, you're arguing about the interactivity of a card

And then playing a deck that essentially relies on drawing the right low cost burst damage cards that can kill your opponent before he has the power to react.

Thats non-interactive gameplay. And its not fun for the people getting stomped by lucky draws.

Reno counters it. And supports building new decks and using different cards due to lack of dupes

Ergo: Aggro is shit. Reno is good.
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>>123521087
Hearthstone really needs more of this sort of effect. At least discovery is a good step in that direction, I guess.
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>>123521505

>Allowed new players to enjoy the game while ruining the game for their opponent, the other new player

Aggro is shit. Aggro is dead

Long live reno. Its better for the game
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>>123521505
the entry barrier has been absurdly high ever since BRM. A new player can't get into the game unless they're willing of spending 300+ dollars (or grind arena for months)
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>>123521550
>trading minions and controlling the board isn't interactive
>one-turn heal for full HP is
actually, literally, pure unadultered idiocy
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>>123521575

Tracking is the closest we have so far

If control hunter ever becomes a thing Tracking is gonna be GOAT.

Its essentially thin 3 cards out of your deck and pick the one (The combo piece in this situation) you want.
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>>123521682
hunter decks were still possible without a significant grind given that they functioned okay at lower tiers even with less valuable replacements and several deck lists didn't require any legendaries what so ever

Entry barrier was high sure but not insurmountable, sadly those days are now completely gone
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>>123521087
>2 mana: look at the top three cards and draw the one you want
Am I interpreting this correctly?
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>>123521662
actually, 'aggro' isn't dead at all. Blizzard has literally stated what makes Hearthstone fun is controlling the board and trying to do good trades, which are the complete opposite of Reno
your card is getting nerfed ASAP, so enjoy it while you can, I guess
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>>123521776

>Aggro
>Trading minions and controlling the board

If you have board control then Reno does very little except buy you a turn of life.

The only aggro reno truly counters is aggro that has enough steam to deal 30 damage in roughly 5 turns then do nothing else. Shit like face hunter.
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can you imagine how fun this game would be if blizzard actually increased the powerlevel of cards across the board and added interesting tech and counter cards?

there would actually be deck variety instead of simply spell burn, minion based, and fatigue decks
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>>123521682
New player here. And by new, I mean I started about six months ago.

That's not true at all. I've reached legend already and I didn't spend a single penny in the game. Also, Trump has proven with his streams that you can reach legendary without any of the expansions (with Dragon Priest). Also, I rarely play Arena.
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>>123521889

>Blizzard
>Nerfing cards asap
>Nerfing cards not getting lots of play in tournaments

What fantasy world do you live in?

Warsong had to ruin the game for like 8 months before it got nerfed.
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>>123521889
oh please, if they were going to nerf legendaries this day and age dr7 would have been beaten with the nerfbat long ago
we're going to keep living in an era where every early misplay can be undone turn 6
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>>123521889

You think they'll nerf a brand new card they are selling? Oh dear.
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>>123521873
You can also stack the deck, which works wonders with counterbalance
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>>123521950
>If you have board control then Reno does very little except buy you a turn of life.
the same way Ice Block only buys you a turn, amirite guyse? :^)

>>Aggro
>>Trading minions and controlling the board

>he bought the 'HUUUR FACEHUNTER IS ALL ABOUT HITTING DAT FACE' meme
retard alert
go actually play the deck you're criticizing pls
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>>123522031
I'm talking entry barrier in terms of catching up and being able to build more than 3 decks, not just in terms of getting legend and stuff.

Getting legend is definitely possible, but I'm not sure if there will be a point where you'll be able to make whatever deck you want (assuming you don't spend money/grind arena, obviously).
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>>123521889
>your card is getting nerfed ASAP
Like Dr. Boom, MC, or druid combo, right?
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>>123522187
>I'm talking entry barrier in terms of catching up and being able to build more than 3 decks, not just in terms of getting legend and stuff.
That's me, m8. I'm currently running Tempo Mage, Mech Mage, Zoo Warlock, Midrange Hunter and Hybrid Hunter. Granted these are cheap decks, I still don't see your point.
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>>123522114
I have no idea what you said.
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>>123522063
>>123522056
>>123522060
>>123522279

Most of the community especially new players are aggro players, if aggro players start quitting the game because of Reno then they will nerf him because they are jews who want maximum shekels. They don't want a dead game.
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>>123522279
>he doesn't know about the staggering amount of people who are leaving Hearthstone because of Reno
just check the forums m8
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>>123522341
Yeah, maybe I'm wrong. You sure know it better than me, cause I'm playing since 2013.

But most of the time playing constructed I enjoy building different decks or trying very different tech cards, and that sort of stuff seems simply impossible if you don't have all the cards. Basically, I'd be VERY demotivated to get into the game if I was starting now.
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>>123522354
He lets you put the order of the top 3 cards of your deck in any order, and counterbalance allows you to counter the spell if the card on the top of your deck has the same mana cost
>>123521087
Is the draw phase before or after the untap phase in MtG? I forgot
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>>123522430
it wont be nerfed. if blizzard hasnt touched Dr Boom, Mysterious challenger, piloted shredder, or mad scientist yet its pretty safe to say they are only going to nerf truly game ruining shit such as decks that outright prevent entire subtypes of decks from existing (like patron did).


aggro is still possible. there are now just effective tools against it
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Is combo druid a meme deck? This shit just doesn't work on ladder, specially on this meta. Your combo is always on the bottom of your deck, you mostly draw dead cards on your hand, if the enemy gets board it's pretty much over, no AoE to come back, etc. Good for tournaments but terrible for laddering, fuck whoever thinks this is any good
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http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/20044154263

just found the aggro guy's post
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>>123522148

>Face hunter is all about hitting dat face is a meme

It actually isnt

Exactly what aggro decks that are about controlling the board and trading that get countered by reno are talking about anon?

Because it sounds like you lost a couple games to a reno player and now you just have a hate boner for the card
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>Priest mind visions the coin
Get fucked
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>they are only going to nerf truly game ruining shit such as decks that outright prevent entire subtypes of decks from existing
literally what reno does
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>>123522519
>and that sort of stuff seems simply impossible if you don't have all the cards
That's definitely true. However, you don't really need to build multiple decks. That's a luxury. The game is already free, and you can't expect to have the same amount of stuff people who shelled out shekels have.

Point is, you can reach Legendary with very cheap decks. Anything else is just luxury.
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>>123522445
Show me numbers and data, not some aggro shitters yelling in the forums. Also hs is not even the main priority for blizzard, it's wow, even they didn't expect hs to sell that well (1/3 of wow).
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>>123522586
They don't nerf Dr. boom, Mystererious challenger, shredder or mad scientist because aggro players can play them as well. Aggro players have no use for Reno in their deck.
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>>123522620
>Sorry, having to use all of the most broken cards in the game isn't "tricky". Brawl into reno into alextrasza doesn't take skill, you're bad and you spend hundreds of dollars on pixels.

HAHAHAHA AGGROSHITTER IN A NUTSHELL
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Is dragon priest any good?
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>>123522629
I don't even play aggro anymore you asswipe, stop assuming things

>Exactly what aggro decks that are about controlling the board and trading that get countered by reno are talking about anon?
every deck that isn't control deck are about controlling the board
i.e. playing as facehunter and having a Druid drop a DA on their first turn with coin, you can either LE GO FACE and let them ramp up extremely quickly or slowly take the board, and THEN go face
that's an universal rule that applies to all aggro decks, even facehunter
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>>123522658
literally not true. aggro druid and aggro hunter are still played at legend. whereas patron literally prevented midrange and super slow control decks (sans warrior) from existing.


even if aggro is completely killed off literally nobody except the lowest common denominator would care. Aggro isnt fun for the player or the opponent. at least with long control games where you play for value you are at least thinking and your wins and losses can be tracked back to specific plays/missplays where as with aggro you either lose or win based entirely on draws
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>>123522736
see
>>123522658
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>>123522629
because of the sheer value of certain lategame cards that can all but negate your board advantage
things like dr boom that can easily trade 4 for 1

normally aggro is build around the fact that by the time your opponent can reliably play those cards he's already dead, not so much with reno
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>>123523005
>control
>skill
Keked.
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>>123523005
>watching your opponent heal for the entirety of his HP from 1 (inb4 "BUT THAT NEVER HAPPENS!!") is more fun that slowly ramping up damage on your opponent's face whilst making good trading decisions and controlling the board
this is what kekontrols actually believe
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>>123523009
that isnt data thats literally just a shieldbearer spouting nonsense and showing how assblasted he is that his mindless garbage has a counter now
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>>123523005
>where as with aggro you either lose or win based entirely on draws
>coming from a guy defending a card which LITERALLY relies on drawing it on the right moment or it being an almost entirely dead draw
holy shit, this is just beautiful
you guys are truly fucking stupid roflmao
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What's a good Tavern Brawl deck to play
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>>123523308
epin :)
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>>123521682

been playing since tgt start, only bought naxx. managed to get rank 5.
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>>123523410
>netdecking even in tavern brawl

build your own decks at least once a week, anon. It's fun
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>>123523410
Tempo Mage
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>>123522897
Trump played it to legend.
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>Playing as Druid
>Face Secretadin, Tempo Mage, Midrange Hunter and Freeze Mage all the time
>Switch to Dragon Priest
>3 CW in a row
They don't even try to hide their biased matchmaking system
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>>123523514
But it's not. I hate Tavern Brawl, I just want the packs and the last win off my Patronio quest.
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>>123522897
Yeah just play on curve, heal your taunts and you win.
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>>123522897
It's brainless
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>>123523313
if you play brann + reno warlock you have another combo heal.
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>>123523410
Troggs, Summoning Stone, Auctioneer.
Build a midrange deck around that.
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>>123523650
Play zoo then. It's literally never bad
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>>123523617
>>123523652
>>123523654
What decks is it favoured/disfavoured against? I don't want to get wrecked by paladins constantly.
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>>123523201
>>123523204
>>123523313
control is far more skillfull than aggro and midrange decks. playing reactively for maximum value takes 10x the brainpower of playing shit on curve and flooding the board for "board control"

no amount of memeing or assmad complaining will change this fact


the sheer amount of anger from you quques is making my night
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>>123523634
>>Playing as Duid
You deserve it
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>>123523801
I don't think Dragon Priest has a single dreadful matchup like every other meta deck out there
The stuff it doesn't own it's 50/50 as far as I'm aware, like Hybrid/Midrange Hunter, Midrange Druid, etc
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>>123523634
favoured vs aggroshitters
disfavoured CW and handlock
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>>123523818
no matter how many buzzwords you spout, it won't change the fact that pressing your hero power for turns and then spamming legendaries is the most braindead way to play Hearthstone
stay cûcked, though
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>>123523801
Sucks dick against handlock, control warrior, freeze mage.
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derp wrong reply

>>123523880

>>123523801
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Holy shit this brawl, questing adventurers and mana addicts fucking get so much work done.
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>>123523634
>play freeze mage
>matched against 3 CWs in a row with Justicars
>decide to play some face hunter after that
>first opponent is a control priest who divine spirits his deathlords
>ironbeak owls and skill commands are bottom decked
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>>123489656
>Introduce my little brother to hearthstone
>make him a basic mage deck so he can start playing in casual

>Golden Control Warrior
>Secret Paladin
>Face Hunter
>Aggro Druid
>Aggro Druid
>Aggro Druid

So now we are playing FFXIV Together
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Here it comes!
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>>123524020
>>123524018
>>123523874
Okay, sounds like a pretty good deck to ladder with, will make.
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>>123523818
Yeah, gaining infinte life and wiping all my low hp minions with a single aoe spell takes a lot of skill huh?
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>>123524013
>considering your cards and attempting to trade up for value is too hard for me
Reno=Bull
Your Rank=Girl

prep the bull you beta bitchboi
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>>123523752
>>123523737
>>123523563
thanks anons
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>>123524172
>Farming low ranks
Literal scum

You shouldn't receive credit towards a golden hero above rank 10
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>>123517436
Hasn't Excavated Evil backfired on you a lot? I often would have liked the heal from Nova instead.
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Is it just me or is this game really fucking shit
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can we do a power list of cancers deck?
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>>123524307

It's not farming if I'm playing meme decks
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>>123524430
It's extra damage against Aggro decks and most of your minions have more than 3 health by the time you play it.
Plus it puts a brick into your opponent's deck
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>>123524676
Your MMR is still much higher if you can consistently make high ranks every season.
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>We want the game to be more about minion combat and players interaction than anything else!
>Attacking player can choose where to attack and you cannot interfere on his actions
Honestly, if this game wasn't Blizzard's, it would be dead on the water
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>>123524646
Titans of Cancer tier:
Secret Paladin
Facehunter

Gods of Cancer tier:
Druids
Midrange Paladin
Freeze Mage
Control Warrior

Asscancer tier:
Reno anything
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>>123525160
thats because blizzard is smart and don't want to make a completely ded game like magic
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Shaman's pretty fun with the new cards
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>>123524172

it is done
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>>123525160
It's probably really high on Blizzard's priority list to make a game where you can tab out/do something else when it's not your turn. If you could interfere with the opponent's actions directly, you couldn't do that.
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>>123525216
Zoofag detected.
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>>123525418
Why would you ever use Dust Devil?
It has the worst stats and Overload in the world
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>Play brawl with arena account, limited cards so I just go with a minion-heavy hunter
>Everyone, literally everyone is tryharding with summoning stone

GET A LIFE FAGGOTS
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>>123525609
>why would you ever use dust devil
>after he takes a screenshot of doing 12 damage with them by turn 3
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>>123525356
Of course they are smart, afterall this shit is working like all their games. What pisses me off is their fanbase of zombies that keep buying their shit, no matter how their devs fuck the game up
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>>123524646
in increasing order:
mill < midrange < control < aggro < secret paladin
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>>123523835

found the warrior shitter
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>>123525762
>tryharding with summoning stone
m8...
the real tryhards are the mages
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>criticize a deck
>"lelele X detected"
Wow, aren't you guys mature?
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Why aren't you farming hunters with miracle priest, /hsg/?
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>taking wallet to fatigue
>feels good
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>>123526009

Decklist?
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Why isn't control paladin a thing?

It has lots of healing, card draw, removal, and a free creature every turn to help establish and maintain board control.
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>>123526143
It is, pros just dont play it because they hate 40 minute games
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>>123526229
control warrior is literally one of the most common decks that streamers and professionals play
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>>123526143
because aggrodins like midrange, secretdin are better.
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>>123526281
it has burst, paladin doesn't
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Because turns 1-3 are the most imporant turns in the game. You can have all the efficient removal and healing you want, if you don't wrestle that mage or hunter for control of the board, you'll be dead regardless.
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>>123526061
Uh, that should happen in the majority of control priest vs control warrior matchups, retard. You should also be winning a majority of those types of games as priest in priest vs warrior too.
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JUST FUCKING DIE ALREADY
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>>123526120
This is the hand variant I've been experimenting with, and so far it seems like the best. I only have one drake and naaru, and I'm missing ressurect, so feel free to tinker if you have more to work with.
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>>123525609

Gives Tunnel Trogg + 2 damage on turn 1 with coin. Or you get the dream like I dead and play both dust devils on turn 2 and beat the devil outta him.

Tunnel Troggs rule

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0ximxe4XtU
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>>123526570
There has to be a good story behind this
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>>123525474
>500 wins as rogue
you must have the patience of a saint
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>>123526570
Your daily reminder that warriors, every patch, receive a new way to taunt up and armor up
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every time I see someone complain about Reno my dick literally gets hard

reading this thread has given me a halfchub imagining all the beta fuccboi aggro players wailing in tears the moment they see this alpha motherfucker hit the board and kuck away any chance those simpleminded ADD riddled cuques had of winning the game
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>>123527058
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Is it that painful to play rogue?

Thinking of making an oil rogue
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>>123527319
raptor rogue is fucking busted
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>>123527319
Raptor rogue is bugged as shit, oil is great
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I don't think I can do this brawl. I have a F2P account and everybody is just wrecking me. If you don't have Flamewakers and Summoning Stones how the hell do you win?
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>>123527910
i won with generic ramp druid
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>Both Circles of Healing and both Lightbombs were in the last 7 cards of my deck.

What are the fucking odds.
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>>123528096
4/30
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>>123528420

>average /hsg/ goer's understanding of probability
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>>123528096
That's why you also run 2 Holy Novas and 2 Excavated Evil now. 8 sweepers. You'll always have at least 2 pretty much in the first 8 cards.
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Explain to me why people think Shielded Minibot is an OP 2 drop but not Annoy-tron which even though has 1 less damage is a taunt.
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>>123528989
shielded minibot trades up. annoyotron does not
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>>123526994
Thats why I play sideshow shiteater
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>>123528989

The most valuable 2 drops have two health, meaning minibot trades favorably with them.
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>barely win after taking 62 damage and only because I drew my heals in the top half of my deck

I love how easy it is to play extremely high impact low cost minions and go face :^)! You don't even have to worry much about your mulligan when all your cards are cheap :^)!
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>>123529154
>not praying to baby jesus for turn 1 coin, minibot, turn 2 minibot.

You would be suprised how easy it is to get this thing to 9/9.
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Would you play this card?
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>>123530702
dies to shredder
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This morning I opened 3 packs from my arena games.
They want me to play something.
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>>123526994
>Your daily reminder that warriors, every patch, receive a new way to taunt up and armor up

Your daily reminder that priests, every patch, receive a new way to steal shit and heal up
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>>123530817

There are only a handful of cards that don't die to a shredder + its drop.

Sunwalker, Belcher, Ysera, Malygos and Deathwing.
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>>123531156
I'm an idiot.
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>>123531347
>Deathwing
>implying
Shredder will drop a doomsayer
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>>123531380
>>123531156
>>
What can I improve?

I think I have a decent deck but I'm stuck in low ranks, help me out please?
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>>123531620

probably easier to make a full face warrior than rely on enrage minions

it's actually not the worst either
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>>123531620

Shield Bearer and Voodoo Doctor are not good cards
Sunfury is pretty slow
Armoursmiths are not aggressive
You have a lot of spells

Get more minions, get more singles copies, get more weapons (arcanite reapers)
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>>123532153

>get more singles copies

I meant get LESS single copies. Two copies of cards makes decks more reliable.
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Do you guys think there'll be more subtypes in the future? Or go back and revisit old cards to give them subtypes, like they did with some mech cards?

Some possible subtypes I can think of-
>Undead
>Elemental
>Giant

It would be pretty neat to see old cards get something added to them, as well as additional support, in a future expansion.
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>>123530702
>give it stealth
>use hero power every turn
>fatigue rogue
>>
>players who pick paladin in arena
>play deathlord
>right before it dies
>play redemption

Also, go face with everything, dont ever trade. Maybe you'll be able to play Mysterious challenger on turn 6 and get a freewin :^)
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>playing at low ranks on ladder on the last few days because I never play
>people are playing UNBELIEVABLY slowly and roping very simple turns constantly

fucking hell this is suffering
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>>123532327
I hope they add planeswalkers
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>>123532565
What about mine?
Tried to make a useful Beneath The Grounds.
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>>123533165
so basically a way to give mill rogue a full board for 6 mana?
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>>123533289
New Patron?
Hmm. I did originally just have it as discarding cards, but I thought that would never see play, as it doesn't help Mill Rogue, just a win more card for them (on the occasions they do win).

I'm assuming you mean Prep>PtW>Oracle>oracle?
Is that really that bad on turn 6, since they don't charge or some shit?
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>>123456789
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>>123533723

I have never been lower rank than 19, what's it like?
>>
>8 cards remaining
>3 cards can win me the game
>don't get them
>lose

Games like that sure make HS enjoyable!

Who the hell wants good mechanics like searching and shuffling anyway, surely not me.
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>>123533648
it would be easy to board clear
but if they can't clear the board you basically won the game at that point
seems really strong to me but I'm a shitter so it might not be broken like I think it is
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>>123533769
So after beating Illidan, did you check your rank and you'd started rank 19?
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>>123533769

>never

But you have, friend.
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>>123533817
>37,5% chance to win
>doesn't win
That's how its supposed to work, yes.
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>>123533824
Maybe. I could change it to just when they draw cards, but I really wanted to move away from getting fucked by discarding shit.
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>>123533970

It's more that

>lost because there is no way to do anything about your deck or deck ordering and you simply rely on luck

I had many many turns to draw those cards and they would have won me the game nearly at any point.
>>
>tfw steam sale
Time for a break next month it seems

See you in 2016
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>>123533817
That's nothing bro. Yesterday I called tails and it ended up heads. I know, it's fucking bullshit.
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>>123520335
Dude here, crafted Justicar
Worth
Every
Particle
Of Dust
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>>123534075
And your opponent relied on the same luck and was better than you. Get fucked, nerd.
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>>123533769
Literally impossible.
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i got a new cardback today boys what's it from
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>>123534616
did you buy any other blizz game?
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>stuck at rank 10 all month
>"fuck it, go aggro, no matter how boring"
>get to 5 in 2 hours

is this deck OP? it feels even faster than face hunter
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>>123534616

from being retarded and spending money on it?
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>>123534616

A waste of money or a waste of time, it doesn't matter it's still terrible investment.
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I'm a Rogue main. I have 1600 dust. I WANT TO CRAFT EDWIN, but I know I should get far more important legos, like Boom or Sylvanas... what the fuck do I do?

Also, I need to DE Harrison to get those last specks of dust
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Rogue justicar would be too much if it made it a 2/3?
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>>123535182
>>123534934
>>123534851
no it just showed up today randomly
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>>123535418
get boom, he wins more games than edwin
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>>123535418
>de-ing harrison

why???????????????????????

why ever??????????????????
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>>123535660
Weapons aren't really meta right now. Also, BOOM?
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>>123535660
I DEd a gold Harrison for Rag, back in the day. I regret it now, but back then it seemed so right.
>>
do we like reynad?
>>
This new Reno priest deck is about 20k dust but it's so fucking good.
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:^)
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>>123535698

>midrange paladin is premier deck in the meta
>weapons arent meta right now

m8..............
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Is priest good right now or something?
Literally ranking up for the first time this week using a priest deck I made after GvG with 0 updates.
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>>123536243
well, priest got almost nothing from the last two expansions. just a bigger lightwarden and a two drop for dragon decks.
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>>123536452
uh excavated evil is fucking huge, giving control priest 8 board wipes in 1 deck
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>>123535639
any1 kno what this is from
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>>123536860
it's the blizzcon 2015 cardback
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>>123536452
>almost nothing
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>>123537024
thats this 1
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>>123537431
Correction: It's handed out for select esports events and was also given to all blizzon 2015 attendees.
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Is millhouse viable in this brawl?
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>>123536860
Blizzard Tournament participation
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>>123485331
>>mad scientist is now a 1/2
fine
>>piloted shredder is now a 3/2
unplayable
>>muster for battle now makes two dudes
unplayable
>>mysterious challenger now fetches a maximum of two secrets
unplayable
>>dr. boom is now a 4/4
still playable in some decks t b h
>>shielded minibot is now a 2/1
fine
>>flamewaker is now a 2/3
a bit weak
>>savage roar now costs 4
fine
>>justicar's Tank Up! now gains 3 armor
unplayable
>>lightbomb now costs 7
priest doens't need a nerf
>>life tap now costs 3 mana
warlock unplayable
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>>123537875
>>>piloted shredder is now a 3/2
>unplayable
It's a minion that spawns another minion. It needs to be weaker
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>>123537162
that card is not even out yet lad
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>>123537875
>Making shredder a 3/3 from a 4/3 makes him go from broken to unplayable
You're a retard
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>>123537875

>1/2 scientiest is fine

No it isn't, no card that plays other cards FOR FREE is fine.

Scientist isn't fine, Madder Scientist isn't fine. Voidcaller isn't fine. As long as these cards continue to play very specific cards you've put in your deck for free they will never be fine.

Draw to hand or bust.
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>>123537979
1 week, Bud. Watch it replace the second Death in Priest decks
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This is my second time getting legend (I was 1547 before, but I started playing meme decks and dropped 1k ranks) My first time was with Midrange Hunter, now with Demonzoo. How do I start breaking into the upper ranks? I mean, I haven't given it a good try yet, but is it as hard as breaking rank 5 to legend?
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>>123537951
you're right, that new raptor card for druid is so good that a card with a slightly stronger deathrattle for an entire mana more would still be great

>>123537983
thats not what I said sperglord
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>>123537951
Sure, but making it a 4/2 or a 3/3 would be an adequate nerf. A 3/2 is just overnerfed.

>>123537983
>Clearly says 3/2
>Thinks it says 3/3
>Calling others retarded
not even him, but wew lad.
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>>123538072
Class cards should be stronger than neutrals and stronger abilities need weaker stats to compensate.
Blizzard has severely undervalued the ability to spawn minions on death and the card needs to be adjusted.
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>>123493238
> being german
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>>123538016
The entire problem with scientist isn't that it plays secrets for free, it's that it trades with 3/2's on top of playing secrets for free. Either it stays a 2/2 and draws the secret to hand, or it becomes a 1/2 and plays the secret.
>Voidcaller isn't fine
Where did the demonlock touch you? Show me on this owl.
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>>123538196
3 health is just too bulky because it survives most regular damage AoE and has the separate body to deal with.
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>>123538463
I tend to agree. Making it a 4/2 also keeps the stat distribution in line with its bigger brother.
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>>123538435

Voidcallers aren't fine. Turn 4 9/7s or 5/7s with charges are beyond broken.
Voidcallers pulling voidcallers makes it a significantly better shredder
Voidcallers pulling flame imps or gang bosses makes it a better shredder

Voidcallers will win more games than any other minion in that deck. They aren't balanced.
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What do you think?

I wish I had a couple of 'beneath the grounds'
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>>123538260
>there are people who irrationally defend a 4 mana harvest golem as playable because they hate the original card so much
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>>123539204
>beneath the grounds in mill rogue
You obviously dont have the right mindset, might as well quit
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>>123539259
Oh right of course, it adds cards durr
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>Farmed quests and brawl for a month for 1,400 gold

Welp, I got Thaurrisen and dipped into Naxx, so my next two weeks will be aiming for Loafofbread. How long did it take you guys before you broke down, said fuck it, and bought the adventures with real shekels?
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>want to play a fun and competitive Rogue deck
>have to buy 2 wings from LOE to make said deck

totally not p2w gays !! xD

nice game hsbabbies
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>>123539334
And if they have a full hand it just burns the nerubian instead of a card actually from their deck. And it adds even more brickiness to an already bricky dead, so yeah its shit, Theres a reason ryzen doesnt use it
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>>123539374
>work for an hour
>buy the entire adventure for best dollar-to-card
>spend my spare gold on fun arena runs

???
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>>123539383
its not p2w if you weren't going to win even after paying.
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>>123539242
Golem spawns a 2/1 that dies to most Hero Powers.
Shredder has a very good chance of spawning something much better
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>>123538635
>Turn 4 9/7s or 5/7s with charges
Literally the same outlier as a druid's turn one bear, except voidcaller is countered by hoot hoot.

>Voidcallers are a better shredder
And? It's a class card, it can be a better shredder.
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>>123539417
Oh, it burns the nerubian? Well that sucks even more. I'm excited about using this Brann card
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>>123539374
I've been playing since Beta, so I always had time to save gold, but as of LoE, I have a job and figured I don't really enjoy saving the gold, so I've started buying them.
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>>123539471
>costs 1 extra mana to play
>just so the DEATHRATTLE can SOMETIMES drop something with 2 more stats than a damaged golem
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>>123539428
I like doing my quests and knocking down the price by $5 every time I buy a wing with gold. $70 is too steep to me, for something I basically fuck around with for an hour a day.

Now it's less fun to keep grinding for gold, so I'll probably just break down and buy it with money soon.
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Why is this general nothing, but 24/7 crying about warrior when not only is it not even in the top 3 decks in terms of usage, or success (both ladder and touranments), but it also serves as the only counter to the most cancerous and least interactive deck in the history of the game. It's also a soft counter to hunter variants that play full charge and face garbage. It forces them to slow down with shit like Highmane, which allows decks like Zoo and Rogue to actually be playable on ladder since those automatically lose to the ultra fast face hunter.
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>>123539870
Is this pasta? Severely out of date pasta?
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>>123505624
>play shit quickly
>run out of steam
>get fucked in the long game
>play slower
>get fucked in the long game
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>>123538051
experiment with meme decks and discover the next reyzoo
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>>123539640
Most minions are going to have more than 1 health.
That by itself is already stronger, not to mention the hyper aggressive statline compared to most other minions at the neutral 4 mana slot.
Just look at Dragonling Mechanic: a 2/4 for 2 that summons a 2/1 on Battlecry.
The math doesn't make sense with Shredder because it's ability is stronger yet it has 2 more attack and only 1 less health.

Defender of Argus is a 2/3 for 4 that requires context to summon yet no one bats an eye at it's statine because it has more than 2 health, and therefore can survive AoE.
More health is strong.
Deathrattles are strong.
Shredder breaks the card math.
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>>123540362
and at 3/2 its literally worse than dragonling
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>>123540547
3/3 is too bulky and 4/2 trades too well to pop it open. What do you suggest?
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gladiator longbow in midrange hunter
y/n?
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>>123540912
What do you plan on trading with?
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>>123540953
minions with 5 or less health
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>>123540753
I think 4/2 is fine.
You see, people will play Shredder on 4 regardless of what you have on the board. If you played a 1 or 2 mana minion the turn before, they can no longer have the "DR 4" attitude and slam it down without fear of consequence.
Sure, they get another thing from it. But that's why they're paying 4 mana for it, instead of 3 mana for a vanilla BGH.
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>>123541146
Funny. But Hunter usually doesn't want to trade is what I'm saying.
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>he doesnt have gold leaper gnomes
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>>123541318
I still think him even being at 4 mana might be an issue, considering that Sky Golem spawns a 4 mana minion yet rarely sees play.
The main issue right now is simply competition because Shredder has barely any. If he was 5 mana it could be less of an issue.
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>>123541541

>using golden cards that don't create other golden cards
>using any golden card until you have a complete golden deck
>having spent enough to have a complete golden deck
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>>123541654
Yea, I guess you're right about the mana cost. But I wouldn't be as much of a dick to simply up the cost of Shredder to 5. That's harsh.
If it went to 5 mana, I'd think it fair to make it a 5/3. Then it can at least kill Sludge Belcher.
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>>123541352

>midrange hunter doesn't want trades

lol
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What twitch channel is dream hack on?
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>killing a CW shitter by putting him at 2 and stealing his Geddon with Sylvanas
Feels good man
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Would Al'Akir be overpowered if it was a 4-6 instead?
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Fuck you cunts using Kezan Mystic

I'm tempted to tech in my own so I can steal my secret back
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>>123542156
Yes.
Before the release of GVG it was confirmed to be the strongest class legendary with the highest win-rate of all class legendaries.

It's the rest of the Shaman deck that suffers.
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>>123542101
The Sylvanas was irrelevant then.
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>>123542183
Butthurt freeze Mage detected
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>>123541654
>>123541773
The problem with shredder is, he breaks every metric of balance put into the game.

He's too aggressively stated considering his effect, his mech tag, how little competition there is at the 4 mana slot, how fucking sticky he is and how useful stickiness is for aggro, and the fact that he's fucking neutral. Now let's talk about his effect, the other broken aspect about him. Much like Shredder, 2 drops are ridiculously overpowered in general compared to other drops. They do too much, are too aggressively stated, and trade up with 3s and 4s with no problem. There's also very few shit 2 drops to offset the number of good and game winning ones.

If you make Sky Golem 6/5 and make him drop a 5 drop, then he'd be on the same level of overpowered Shredder is. Shredder needs a mana crystal nerf without any other buff, or for his deathrattle to be changed to 1 mana drops, or a 2/3 (or 3/2) stat adjustment, to be on par with the other 4 drops in the game.

Alternatively, just nerf every overpowered 2 drop in the game, because fuck every minion in that mana slot, and how game defining they are.
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>>123541773
I just think the underlying issue at the moment with Hearthstone in general is the scaling of abilities, where proportionate to their cost a cheap minion can have insane value.
You see it pop up with a lot of minions where changing a stat value by only 1 point can make them either unplayable or unbeatable, because the points of articulation are so close together, meanwhile the higher costed you get the more you can change their stats.

For example if you were to change the health on a minion like Mysterious Challenger by 1 point in either direction the impact wouldn't be nearly as large as on Knife Juggler, because with Challenger you have 6 mana, 6 attack, and 6 health to manipulate while on Juggler you only have 2, 3, and 2, respectively.
And that's why you end up with Bloodfen Raptor being a 3/2 along with Juggler, yet Boulderfist Ogre being a 6/7 as opposed to Challenger.
Because Blizzard wants to make earlygame aggressiveness viable and have the game be fast as opposed to other card games.
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>>123542221
>not taunting cancer before death if you can afford it
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>>123542278
People who don't understand why 2 mana cost minions are so powerful don't understand the core HS was built on.

In the beginning, people coming from other card games were wondering why the fuck HS is so based on minion combat and playing minions every turn.
Blizzard openly said, they think the game is more fun when every turn you're playing a minion or minions and trading minions with your opponent.
As a result, they had to continually make minions awesome enough to explain why you aren't just using a control deck or a freeze-mage style combo deck.

What they didn't realize was that when HP is only 30 and there's no real way to defend without using all of the shitty taunts in the game, aggro decks aren't going to trade at all.
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Fuck solitaire decks tho senpai
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Been playing low level ladder, man people act strange here. People just stop playing after they think they lose. No roping although I did get roped once. People love emoting at me and always say Well Met before game starts. Just emote all game long.

Decks are incredibly generic or really stupid Rogue decks with absolutely no synergy.

Oh well just sharing what I saw at shit tier.

Also Eloise is really really strange, I can't tell if shes trying to arouse me or just likes whispering.
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>>123542460
every deck is cancer when you suck
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>>123542447
The number scaling is terribad. There are complaints about Mysterious Challenger and Dr. Boom, when by all means they represent the natural progression of card strength from those early game aggro minions.
Other fatties are just kind of shit though.
Imagine if Rag was changed to Destroy a random minion, or Deal 12 damage, he'd probably be more on par with the system as well.

If Baron Geddon and Illidan were 7/7s they'd both be on the weak side, but be semi-reasonable.
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Small Game Hunter
3 mana 2/4 neutral epic
Destroy all other minions with an attack of 2 or less.

Ironbeak Hunter
2 mana 1/2 neutral common
Silence all minions with an attack of 2 or less.
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Tell me why flamewalkers aren't OP
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>>123542872
They promote emptying your hand like a moron.
They require your opponent to have cards you actually want to use spells against.
They aren't actually that great in the early game unless you have a coin + mirror image or arcane missiles.
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>Being stuck at Rank 6 for 2 days straight.

Should I just whip out my trusty Eboladin?
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>mfw
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