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Dueling Network General #1998

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BEFORE ASKING TO BE SPOONFEEDED, TRY THE FOLLOWING:

● Read the carefully cards.
● Lurk and read carefully the archives.
● Try and keep your deck as close to 40 cards. This increases dramatically your chances of drawing the cards you need.
● Google your Deck before you post it here. If your deck is/was competitive it will probably have topped an event.
● Most Yu-Gi-Oh Games have an option between Singles (Self explanatory, a single Game) and Matches (Best of 3). It is recommended that you play Matches, as Singles does not teach you how to use your Side Deck.
● Remember to play-test constantly and try suggestions before you discard them, even if someone recommends a weird tech choice.
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Summoning Sifr with D/D/Ds

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27667663
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Reminder that PePe being Tier 0 is a meme propagated by BOSH shilss and that the OCG meta is barely affected, instead they have several deck diversity as seen on pic related.
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You're all shit.
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Discord for Pendulums WHEN
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>>123402429
>Try and keep your deck as close to 40 cards. This increases dramatically your chances of drawing the cards you need.
LOVE this meme
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>>123402753

Reminder that you are a fucking retard who doesn't understand the difference between tops and representation.
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>>123402783
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>that archetype you love that will never, ever have any more support

What's her name, /dng/?

Why does Konami hate Morphtronics so much ;_;
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>>123402948
>d-doesn't c-c-counnt!!!11 ;)

I think your shilling would work better on Pojo champ. Now go and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
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>>123403175
You nigs got a fucking smart phone.
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>>123403604
That makes it worse for me, it shows they clearly CAN make good support for Morphtrons but they just choose not to
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>>123403175
galaxy/photon, hieratic and dragunity
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>>123403604
>>123403818
>>123403175
You poorfags should get a fucking job on Mcdonalds.

Why Konami would buff a shitty poorfag deck when they can just buff the already good Tier 1 and sell even more new product?
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>>123402746
Neat
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when?
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>tfw Kozmo getting BTFO
>tfw eMeM crushing Kozmo at less than 80% power
Feels great man.
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>>123404038
>Why Konami would
Shut up mexican retard.
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>>123404038
>Why Konami would buff a shitty poorfag deck

Because its playstyle is both fun and inventive? Because it has a lot of good cards already? Because it's my petdeck and I want it?

>>123403943
Didn't Galaxy beat BA at some big tournament a while back?
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>>123403175
Are Magnet Warriors an archetype?
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>>123404168
When they feel like it.
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>>123404312

they will be
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>>123403175
Most of the DT ones, Watts, Vehicroids, Cyberdarks, Venom, Inti & Quilla/Aztec/Mayan, -eddons, SKYFIRE, Dark Synchro, Centipedes, basically I love most of them, but they're all dead.
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>>123404312
I still can't believe there wasn't a retrain for them in the Nostalgia support.
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>>123404253
just wait for the new kozmo support
you`re shitty MeMe deck wont stand a chance against the death star
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>>123404368
Lancelot is so fabulous
Post more fabulous XYZ monsters
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>>123404469
They're called PSY-Frames.
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>>123404579
>j-j-just wait for Merlin
my absolute favorite meme
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>>123404579
The flying monkeys are what will make Kozmos tier 0
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>>123404312
I summon Valkyrion, The Maaaaagna warrior.

I tried finding the commercial but couldn't.
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>>123404768
You mean DOG Fighter? ;^)
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so whats next on the nostalgia support?
i hope its something from the gx era
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>>123404926
Dragunities
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>>123404898
what? don't reply to me, stranger
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>>123404926
DARK WORLDS
A
R
K

W
O
R
L
D
S
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>>123404926
Dark Magician shit.
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>>123404926
It'll be another thing for Kaiba, I'll bet. Though with his Blue-Eyes upgrades, I can't imagine what else there could be. Maybe a retrain of Lord of D?
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>>123404926
>i hope its something from the gx era
Classic era only
Nobody should ever nostalgia for anything from GX and beyond
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>>123405054
Better not be, they've already got enough shit
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>>123405198
XYZ dragon canon shit
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>>123405329
>Xyz Dragon Cannon
>3 Level 4 Monsters
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>>123404926
Random Jam support that not-so-secretly works with Slifer and Mask shit.
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>>123405235
GX was 10 years ago.
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Are the ratios good?
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>>123405597

BAKANA

YOU ARE LYING
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>>123405597
So?
Anyone with a brain stopped watching after Battle City
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>>123405853
>watching anime AT ALL

You're the retard here.
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Hey /dng/, I know you have to have an english copy of a foreign card you intend to run, but where do you keep it? Like I want to use this German Leo I have, but would I Just leave it with my extra deck with the english copy? And furthermore, would I get in trouble for that technically being like a 16th card in my extra deck?
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>>123405538
>Melchid the 4 faced Beast retrain that tutors mask cards
>mask of Remnant retrain
>Masked Beast ritual retrain
>MASKS
Sign me the fuck up. If they made a new anti-Pendulum Mask and a mask tutor oh boy.
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>>123406045
>watching yugioh when it was actually popular in the early 2000s
>anime
I bet you think the first season of pokemon is anime too
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>>123406120
>I know you have to have an english copy of a foreign card you intend to run
Since when?
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>>123406260
Julia's fault.

Basically if your opponent can't read your cards because they are in some foreing text you can get a game or match loss and even get DQ of the tournament if you can replace it with an english copy.
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>>123406260
Both regionals I've ever been to have required that if you are playing a foreign card you have an English copy on hand for reference so I Just assumed It was a required thing
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>>123406243
>anime isn't anime if it's popular!
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>>123406260
>>123406120
You don't /have/ to have a English copy, just need to have the English translation written/printed out. Same as using an old card that has an errata. If you have a English version of the card, keep it in the side, in a different color sleeve or unsleeved.
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>>123406723
You're damn right
Anime is only watched by losers
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>>123406243
>tfw I didn't know YGO and Pokemon were anime when I was a kid
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>>123406787
Ah ok, thanks.
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>I watch anime
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Is their a card like metamorphosis but for synchro?
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>still watching the anime
>still not playing magic
>still hating the pokemon tcg
>STILL no scans
whats does this dragon lack?
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>>123406120
>>123406781
Now what about tokens? It's own colored sleeve in my side also? or can I make It match my sidedeck/extra deck so the opponent doesn't just look at it and see I have a token?
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>>123406929
>Summon ritual trish
>Use synchro-metamorphasis
>Summon synchro trish
only in my dreams
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>>123405715
hell no
start by asking yourself why the hell three vampire shadows are in your deck
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>>123406929
This Is the /closest/ we've got
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>>123407091
A token can be anything that can show ATK/DEF. If it's a Token, use whatever. If it's a regular card, keep it in a different color sleeve.
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>>123407450
Alrighty, thanks. I was wanting to use the actual Gorz token for Gorz.
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>>123407204
Because it lets me grab Duke/Sorcerer/Vamp when Normaled. I run other cards to help me Tribute for it, too. It's never very dead.
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>2015
>still no Gaga archetype
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Should I buy a playset of E-Tele for $8 each? Also, are there any other similar staples that've recently tanked in price?
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Giving a shot from FrogGods to Gadgets. Wish me luck in singles.
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>>123407980
If you need them sure, go for it. For your second question: http://yugiohprices.com/
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So wait ; Are these actually going to be good or what? Or is everyone just going to tear through these for staples like most decks?
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Easiest/most reliable way to summon Toon Ancient Gear Golem?
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>>123407680
Tbh vamps are best for turbo in beelze and I don't even see him
Take out...
Airforce
1x vampire kingdom
1x vampire shadow
Pyramid turtle
1x book of life
Time space trap hole
Both Storm of the monarchs
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what's a non-meta, playable deck, that's fun?
examples: fabled, mermail
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>>123408442
Whoops forgot pic
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>>123408442
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How do I Shiraui?
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>>123408602
Gravekeeper's is fun
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>>123408602
>Mermail
>Not meta
J-Just you wait
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How are the maindeck ratios? I replaced Armades with Number 11: Big Guy, but can the deck itself be better?
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>>123408602
>Fabled
>Playable after Brio got banned
???
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>>123408442
>>123408656
I honestly believe that they'll be good but we'll just have to wait and see really
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>>123407804
That card is really, really not good.
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Some guy just tried to Scattershot, Raigeki and Fiendish Chain a field full of Majespecters. Reading is so hard.
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>>123409042
>Not maining triple junk synchron for sicknasty quasar plays
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>>123403175
>tfw new Meklords never ever
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comeback fag here. how to beat these penjaloons without playing them?
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>>123409521
dont comeback
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>>123408564
I did forget Beelze in my Extra, but I don't find them needing to turbo into Beelze or Bram or anything. It has flexibility to react to the current field without having to 'turbo' into anything.
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Fuck this card. Losing a game because of this shit is the worst feeling.
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>>123409521
lots and lots of summon negation
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>>123409702
now i remember why i went to reddit...
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>>123409702
b-but i just did. why? is it hard to beat them?

and i came back because monarchs. i think i'll stick with them again.
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>>123410054
like this?
>>123410036
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>>123409145
are you an idiot
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>>123410036
Why do they keep printing solemn cards? They're either broken or shit.
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>>123410150

stay there
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So this card has basically stole Kaibaman's job right?
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>>123410484
Yeah.
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>>123410519
because if they are broken and short print everyone will try to get them and that equal more sales
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>>123410312
ok there's potential
still have to wait 2 months
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>>123409365
Night howling is better than quasar in every way though
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>>123409338
M-maybe he just wanted you to burn you for 1500 and the rest was just admitting defeat
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>>123410754
sweet.

i guess i'll >>123410523 for a while.
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where do i have more chances of getting one of those "value cubes"
target or walmart?
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>>123404645
Nigga please that's the Viser Des archetype
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Give advice pls
I want to use something like this because I like Toon Rollback
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>>123411376
walmart for cubes
target has pack holders of random cards
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>>123409206
Same here, their cards will rise in price soon enough, this may be the last week where you can get them cheap.
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>>123408656
It'll define the meta for a long time
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>>123410543
I find the lore of the BEWD interesting. In the anime, it was held by a girl named Kisara who died protecting the one she loved from his father and then went on to serve him as a duel monsters card.
The OCG/TCG shows that if Kisara never went to Egypt she grows up to be a priestess with two knights protecting her and she learns to control the BEWD and merge with it to form Azure eyes silver dragon or Blue eyes Spirit Dragon.
I wonder if more cards will come out to keep the story going.
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>>123411970
>for a long time
More like 2 months.
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>>123409915
What current field are you reacting to? The meta? In that case hell this is a lost cause

Also tfw is that extra deck? No Cowboy... a fucking key beetle? Wtf are you gonna protect? Vampire kingdom? No ragnazero... no Gaia charger... 2 fucking vampire knight faggots...no rebellion dragon...

Just delete it
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>>123411567
>1 (one) Masked Sorcerer
>No Toon DMG
>Only 2 Terraforming
>Lose 1 Turn in a special summon heavy deck

Fix it.
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>>123410543
So much hotter than Blue Eyes Maiden or whatever her name is
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>>123412105
The deck has performapals
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>>123412105
Don't reply to him. He's retarded.
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>>123412373
>Only 2 Terraforming
I can't tell if you're memeing me but I thought 3 Terraforming was a bad idea 100% of the time

>Lose 1 Turn in a special summon heavy deck
Toons can't even do anything their first turn, except Toon DMG who isn't even in the deck yet
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>>123412426
>Structure deck is all about Magician pendulums
>only meta main deck card is the single Performapal card.
I don't stand corrected.
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What deck should I play on Thanksgiving?
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>>123412869
>only meta
Did you forget the time where Magicians where meta to the point they had to limit Insight?
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>>123413124
blackwings
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Any Black Friday Yugioh deals? ;_;
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>>123413124
You should spend thanksgiving with your family you fag.
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>>123413124
Hungry Burger Turbo featuring chickenwings
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>>123412354
Well no shit, this deck can't compete with T1. But it's not bad as a Rogue deck.

I don't R4 often, I just took out Key Beetle. Why Ragna, what is changing its ATK that can be targeted that I care about? I do need to add Charger. He's the deck's Boss, and can be really handy. Rebellion targets, and I don't R4 often. Kingdom is nice for the dumping eff when I use Duke, and the ATL boost.
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>>123413320
What if that anon doesn't have a family?
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>>123413472
Friends then
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>>123413549
What if we're his friends, /dng/?
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>>123413353
>Draw a burger
>Warrior
??????
???
?
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>>123413847
THERE'S STRONG
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>>123413805
That's pretty pathetic then desu
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have you ordered your BIG GUY card yet /dng/?
mine arrives this saturday

also, will we ever see its final evo?
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I think it would be cool if Blue-Eyes support brought back Synchro Fusion, possibly making a BEUD retrain that way by visually combining the Synchros with Twin Burst or Alternative.
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>>123414107
I want it but it's a piece of shit card so I want to wait until it becomes dirt cheap
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>Needing friends or family
A true duelist stands on his/her/xir own
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>>123414178
4 burgers isnt that expensive m8
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>>123412354
>no rebellion dragon
But that's a good thing.
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>>123414107
I bought mine already, also testing TeleDAD Big Guy.dek to go with it
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>>123413278
20 dollars

now help me out
>>123411567
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>>123413847
It should've at least been Beast-Warrior to have something to do with the burger part.
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Post warriors, /dng/
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>>123414574
>>123413353
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>>123414574
warriors, /dng/
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>>123414574
warriors, /dng/
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>>123414323
I'm not giving more than a dollar for that meme
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>>123414574
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>>123414574
Warriors, /dng/
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>>123414574
>Fiber Glass sword
da fux?
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>>123403179

>results don't matter
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>>123414574
Dream Clown is best Warrior
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>>123413472
>>123413549
>tfw you realize you have no friends
>you don't even celebrate holidays
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>>123414574
warriors, /dng/

>>123414665
you dont love your meme enough buddy
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>>123414574
warriors, /dng/.
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>>123414574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_NjqQGuYlk
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>>123414881
oh fug, forgot my image
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Help me make wind-ups good, I feel like they could be if you throw in clowns
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>monsters that can attack directly are banned
>attacking directly is now a win condition

How does this change the game?
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>>123415164
>mfw all monsters are banned because all monsters can potentially attack directly
>mfw Royal Decree becomes banned
>mfw Trap Monsters rule
>mfy Burgers become worth hundreds overnight
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>>123415164
leave my toons alone
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>>123414886
>that effect
jesus christ konami
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>>123413413
>Okay with vamp being in the deck
>not okay with rebellion being in the deck
>thinks charger is the boss of the deck when beelze or red hot archfiend could be

Just stop touching my vamps pls
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>>123414574
Have some more warriors, /dng/.
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>>123415138
You've had your time, buster.
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Do burgesstomas miss timing if the trap activated to trigger a summon is chained on/part of a chain?
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>>123415734
Burgers respond to you activating a trap. They can't miss the timing.
CL1 opponent's eff, CL2 your trap, CL3 burger, CL4 your trap, CL5 burger, etc
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>>123408126
>all of the monsters in your main deck are level 4
>not running max kagetokage
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>>123415734
Do they say "When...you can"?
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>>123415974
They respond to activation of effects, not to state changes. Yang Zings miss timing because they respond to being destroyed. You can destroy shit during a chain's resolution. Burgers respond to a trap activating. Traps can never activate in the middle of a chain's resolution
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>Playing OG Trap Monsters vs Harpies
Certain match-ups should be banned.
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>>123416374
Then no, they don't miss timing
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Since this place doesn't help me build my deck, where should I go?
Pojo? Reddit? Facebook?
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>>123416648
What deck?
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>>123416648
Pojo
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>>123416648
I can help you build a deck, anon.
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>>123416648

reddit
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>>123416729
my shitty toon pet deck
>>123411567

>>123412373
replied to me, but then just disappeared
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>>123415873
They can totally miss timing, you moron.

>>123415734
You can summon a Burgesstoma if the last chain link is a trap.
So lets look at a couple of chains.
CL1: Trap activation on the field
CL2: Trap activation on the field
As we can see here, a trap card being activated on the field is the last chain link (2), so you can definitely activate and chain a Burgesstoma's special summon effect.

CL1: Trap activation on the field
CL2: anything that's not a trap activation
In this situation, you cannot summon a Burgesstoma, since the last chain link is not a trap card activation on the field.

Reminder, for Burgesstoma to work the trap CARD must be activated. What do I mean by this? It means you can only activate Burgesstoma when the trap card is being flipped up (activation of card). Some Trap cards can activate their effects after they've been activated, you cannot activate Burgesstoma in this situation.
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>>123416875
Go to Pojo, they like petdecks more than here.
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>>123416875
Are you black anon?
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>>123416648
reddit or pojo

are fb groups even good? i bet most of them are stuck up faggots that rarely win
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>>123416960
Except that unless it's a mandatory effect chaining to the trap, you can ss your burger. The only way would be to do something like have LaDD on the field who has to activate.
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>>123416648
>w-w-why won't you guys spoonfeed me???
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>>123417354
Except that you always have to give your opponent a chance to chain something, so if they chain MST or something to your trap activation, you're fucked and can't SS any Burgesstoma.
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>>123417179
Nope

>>123417014
>>123417192
Pojo sounds like it'll be first choice to learn and get advice

Don't worry though, I'll always be lurking and posting here <3
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>>123417354

You can't if it's during the opponent's turn because of priority
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>>123416875
Maybe if you didn't play shitty nostalgia decks we would help you.
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>>123417470
He didn't say that though, did you reply to the wrong person?
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>>123417628
How else can you even interpret that?
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>>123415653
Why not? The deck can probably be fine, but it just needs a way around clowns and kozmo
>>
Is still worth it to have Castel in the Extra? With all the Kozmo and Majespecter shit being untargetable it makes me wonder if I should run it.
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>>123417763

The deck is way too butchered to do anything.
No loop, no zenmaity, nothing.
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>>123417756
You could interpret it as:
>Since this place doesn't help me build my deck, where should I go?
>Pojo? Reddit? Facebook?
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>>123417910
What else would even be worth his spot?
>>
>>123417910

>what are floodgates
>what are floating fields
>what is the best deck this format, pepe
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>>123417910
Yes, are you fucking stupid. It's still removal and can send back continuous shit
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>>123417472
>always

No, just during their turn they get priority
If it's your turn, you could chain a burger to a trap before they can chain something
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>>123417962
Couldnt you take the pepe/majespecter build and turn it to replace the majespecters with windups?
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>>123418160
So you're telling me that during my turn I can chain all of my shit to my own cards before asking an opponent if they have a response?
That's not how it works you little shit.
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>>123418190

>take a good deck and put a bad deck in it

I don't understand where you're coming from.
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>>123418160
>If it's your turn, you could chain a burger to a trap before they can chain something
Except you can't fucking do that
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The dream is dead.
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>>123418368
>Players on my lolcals bought that shit $60
>Some even wasted $180 on the playset
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>>123418329
>Majespecters
>good
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>>123418368

>not hoarding kozmo cards for their BOSH support

If PePe fucks over Kozmo, they won't be able to sell DOCS. They're going to make sure Kozmo doesn't die.
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>>123418368
I don't understand why people didn't realize it was going to be quickly outclassed. Do people really not look at the OCG?
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What kind of food does /dng/ like/love to eat and or enjoy?
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>>123416374
Traptrix Rafflesia could've depending on which homebrew translation you used.
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>>123418720
>JUST WAIT FOR MERLIN GUYS
>MERLIN WILL SAVE THE DECK
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>>123418720
They don't even need Kozmo for BOSH though, they're going to bring a ton of cards that players wanted to get from a long time, like fuckboi, Rafflesia and Infinity, and that's without taking into account cards like Solemn and Ariadne.
>>
>>123418775
>Do people really not look at the OCG?
Have you seen how clueless people are in these threads?
>>
Thinking of picking up YGO, how diverse is the meta on the competitive scene?

I come from playing the Pokemon TCG and that's literally one of two cut and paste decks every single game
>>
>>123418779
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>>123418775
Of course not, remember all the times you see someone posting ">OCG lol who cares?" or something like that? That's the people that got Kozmo for sure.
>>
http://articles.alterealitygames.com/the-problems-with-the-pendulum-mechanic/

http://articles.alterealitygames.com/the-problems-with-the-pendulum-mechanic/

http://articles.alterealitygames.com/the-problems-with-the-pendulum-mechanic/

QUICK

HOBAN POSTED A NEW ARTICLE

ABOUT

P E N D U L U M S

EVERYONE PRAISE LORD HOBAN
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>>123418842

But Kozmos are already good, they're just not as good as PePe. Noble Knights were always shit.

>>123418854

>They don't even need Kozmo for BOSH though

No, but they're not going to sell DOCS if the only cards worth anything in the set become worthless.
>>
>>123418923
First, there's no need to trip. Secondly, usually there's one really good deck and a couple of decks that are right behind it in terms of topping tournaments and stuff.
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>>123418923
About the same here. We're moving into a 2-3 deck format soon.
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>>123418996
When your first sentence is:
>Since the Pendulum mechanic was first released last summer they haven’t had too much of an impact on the game.
You have a problem.
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>>123418775

Not even judges look at OCG for the rulings and instead come up with their own
>>
I need a DDDeck
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>>123418996

>Pendulums definitely have a lot of problems they have to overcome if they want to compete with non-Pendulum decks.

Oh, so that's why emem is dominating the OCG and pepe is rising in TCG. It's because they can't compete with non-pendulum decks, and the only reason they're topping is because nobody else is playing a non-pendulum deck. Praise lord hoban!
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>>123419226
I DDDon't have one for you.
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>>123418996
>>123419103
>Pendulums definitely have a lot of problems they have to overcome if they want to compete with non-Pendulum decks. Some of these problems may not be fixable with the current card pool

What the fuck, his whole article is

>Pendulums are a shitty mechanic
>There's no good pendulum deck yet and we may not have one for a long time
>Why the fuck you Xyz with Pendulums retards?
>Use Synchro with Pendulums retards
>I give up we need more cards this shit is unplayable

What the literally fuck Hoban?
>>
>>123418996

>Cards like Ignister, Luster Pendulum, Plushfire, and the Magicians are a solid start to fixing these problems, but it’s going to require more innovation than just that.

He said, right after the website he's writing for hosted an event where a pendulum deck took the majority of the tops.
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>>123418996

Retards like these are why TCG players don't win worlds.
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>>123418996
>Haven't had too much of an impact on the game
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>>123418996
>Not that special summoning from your hand is a bad thing, it’s just not the kind of power I’d be willing to give up the two cards I’d have to use to set scales to be able to summon from my hand.

I mean, I can kinda see it, but then you're putting the ability to ss from hand in decks that were never planned to do that. He needs to get over the whole "GOTTA SET SCALES TURN 1" mentality.
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>>123419029
Raccon is still an expensive card, and Odd-Eyes cards are required for the deck.
>>
>>123418923
>literally one of two cut and paste decks every single game
Exact same thing in YGO.
>>
>>123418923

That's every single card game. You will not find a tcg with a metagame that has tons of decks competing for the top.
>>
>If I start with a five-card hand and use two of the cards as scales, then I’ve only got three cards left to actually do something with. My opponent is then drawing to six and I’m at a huge disadvantage. It’s difficult to expect to use your three cards to compete with their six.

Is he stupid?
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>>123420221
No, he's right
>>
>>123420221

>this thought process

Holy shit

This is 12 yeal old mentality
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>>123420096
what is modern and legacy
>>
>>123420221
He's assuming that the scales don't give you any other sort of card advantage. I think
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>>123420221
He's right, if you're using Pendulums don't generate advantage.
Which is why Luster Pendulum & co are so good.
>>
>>123420458

Formats that don't matter.
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>>123420221
And I thought my mindset was paranoid.
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>>123420478

It also assumes that your other cards won't benefit from Pendulum summon
>>
>Using two scales that don’t replace themselves is just too high of a cost to compete with non-Pendulum decks.

>Pendulums definitely have a lot of problems they have to overcome if they want to compete with non-Pendulum decks.

I can't believe he wrote this. Non-Pendulum decks are basically at an automatic disadvantage if they can't break your scales.
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>>123420548
>a pro tour format doesn't matter
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>>123420221
He's only stupid if he's thinking in terms of relative use. If he was thinking in terms of utility, he'd see that setting scales is almost always useful, outside effectless scales.
Does he think madolche ticket is a -1 to put on field?
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>>123420748

Yes, under his logic all continuous spells and traps are -1
>>
Hoban confirmed for bringing deskbots to the next tourney. Scoop up those 001s.
>>
>Synchros are more powerful than XYZs
I guess that's why Synchros died the minute Xyzs came out.
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>>123420664
Yeah there's also that
>>
>nameless 4chan posters thinking they know more about the game than Hoban
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Basically, fuck your pendulums
try bringing them back from the graveyard you filthy motherfuckers
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>>123420954
>I guess that's why Synchros died the minute Xyzs came out.
It helps that Konami banned all the good Synchros around that time as well.
>>
>Majester Paladin, the Ascending Dracolayer definitely helps with this problem
I guess we know which card is going to rise now.
>>
>destroy my pends and pile them up on the extra for the next 3 turns
Thanks familia-tachi
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>>123421124
>Foto_virus_devastador_de_deck.jpg

Get the fuck out mexican retard.

>>123420954
They didn't. Back then the only "good" Xyz play was splashing Tour Guide, Sangan and Revise Dragon into Synchro Plant to tutor more shit to synchro later on.

Then Konami told Tewart to stop being retarded and change back the xyz material rulings and banned Brionac, Trishula, Bulb, Spore, semi limited tengu and killed a lot more of shit along the way.
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>>123421124
Will do, kiddo.
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>>123421532
Caught me ;)
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>>123420548
>Formats that don't matter.
Holy shit, that made me dizzy. First the results didn't matter, now the whole fucking format doesn't matter, I have Bohemian Rhapsody playing in the back of my head now. Nothing really matters, Nothing really matters, the joy of creation, the joy of creation. ..
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>>123421532
>complains bout mex
>goes with weeb "revise"
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>>123420548
>d-d-doesn't count
one of my absolutely favourite memes
>>
What are some good Yugioh related YouTube channels?
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>>123421532

Caught me :^)
>>
>>123421639
>Hey guys, lets see how small we can get the text on a card just to see if anyone will read it?
jesus fuck.
>>
>>123421532
>Revise Dragon
Who?
>>
>>123421164
Blastfan and accelerator seem like they would be perfect for pendulums.
But then you have shit like turbo>oracle, which is completely useless because there's no level 4 genex synchro.
It's depressing
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>>123421808
>>123421740
The water level 3 2000attack exceed from GenerationForce.
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>>123421532
Sorry I use duck duck go on mobile nigger
if I was a beaner I'd have a fat ass and would be hoeing myself 24/7 even if I had to as a trap but dreams don't come true
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>Blue-Eyes Decks becoming popular
>Get to do this every time I duel one
Is this heaven.
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>>123421937
There is no card in Generation Force called Revise Dragon.
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>>123421807

>>123421937
Number 17?
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>>123414574
Now we post cuties, /dng/.
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>>123422010
m-muh waifu ;_;
>>
>>123422058
There's only 6 exceeds on GenFo anon, check the one that matches what I told you.

>>123422127
Yeah that exceed.

I remember when people still used Kibou and Revise on their extra decks.
>>
>>123422198
cuties, /dng/.
>>
>>123422198
>good design
I bet she sucks
>>
>>123422261
>exceeds
>Kibou
>Revise
Who?
>>
>>123422409
XYZ
Number 39: hopu
Number 17
>>
OK I'm actually seriously trying to get into this article and critique it as objectively as possible but look at this shit:
>Scout gave Qliphort a way around this. It lowed the cost of placing scales by a significant amount because it did what the other scales didn’t and replaced itself. Even still, you’re starting at a minus two instead of minus three.
No
No that doesn't make any fucking sense. Scout upon its initial activation is a fucking net 0 if we're talking about purely hand advantage. Even then that's FUCKING stupid because when you're talking about advantage you talk about overall fucking card advantage, and OVERALL Scout is actually a +1, and a continuous +1 at that the longer it stays active.

Simply thinking in terms of pure hand advantage is BAD because it forces you into a mindset that is completely backwards. In this same example a hand of Luster, Mascot, and Wavering Eyes is "Bad" because the initial activation of the Scales is a -2, and the cost of activating and resolving Wavering Eyes is a whopping -3, woah holy shit this combo must be dogshit right?

Obviously that's pure hyperbole, but he's being disingenuous over fucking basic game design. And this motherfucker is sitting here talking about writing a book? Get the fuck out of here
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>>123422198
cuties, /dng/.
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>>123422198

cuties, dng
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>>123422448
I bet this is another jew scheme to lure retards.
>>
>>123422445
Number 39's name is not Hopu. Nor is Number 17's Revise/
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>>123422347
She's a fair choice for a spellcaster-oriented deck as she provides effect immunity to the same number of cards used to summon her.
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>>123422448
Why don't you write your own book and enlighten the masses then?
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>>123422448
Calm down.
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>>123419103
He's right though, they didn't have an impact because very first pendulums until Qlips were shit
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>>123422605
You'll never get me to call hoppu Utopia, Tewart
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>>123422198
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>Literally only three new cards
>Rest are reprints of Yugi.dek
>Which were already reprinted earlier this year
KONMAI PLS
>>
>>123422828
You just did gay boy
>>
>>123422828
>hoppu
Shut up mexican retard.
>>
>>123422752

>being a retard who can't read
>>
>>123422965
I know you are anon, it's ok don't worry about it.
>>
>>123422932
You know that trying to pass as a mod or janny can get you banned right?
>>
http://en.rocketnews24.com/2015/11/26/yu-gi-oh-millennium-puzzle-forged-from-pure-solid-gold-to-go-on-display/

I wonder if they'll also display this thing at nationals or worlds.
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>>123422198
cuties, /dng/.
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>>123422715
You could've just said yes
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>>123422943
You fucking nigger

>>123422945
>calling me a mexican
stop falseflagging and don't fucking reply to me you mexican shiteater
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>>123422198
>>
>>123423489
Shut up mexican retard.
>>
>>123423602
Don't you reply to me you fucking mexican.
>>
>>123422718
>Why don't you write your own book and enlighten the masses then?
this desu senpai
stop complaining about what some retard thinks
write your own articles if you are so tough
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>>123422198
Posting the cutest of them all
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>>123423713
Shut up mexican retard.
>>
>>123423567
i just immediately fell in love again. anyone got a DD decklist?
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>>123422198
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>>123423771
That's a guy though and that's pretty fucking gay
>>
>>123423771
I'd stick it in his cloaca.
>>
>>123423771
gross
>>
>>123422198
Good taste
>>123422010
I'd give them a month before it stops. Blue eyes can't function in the TCG and is too slow for OCG.
>>
>>123424068
I didn't say it was good. Just fun to beat because BOOM 5000 DAMAGE.
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>>123424034
Glad you think so cus he's all mine

>>123423980
Back off
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>>123422198
cuties, /dng/.
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>>123424461
Okay, this is pretty cute
>>
>>123424126
Faster than usual, janny.
Keep the work up.
>>123422198
cuties, /dng/.
>>
>>123424262
I know that. I just meant enjoy it while it lasts.
Blue eyes needs some protection aside from Azure eyes to be better.
>>
>Mod killed the literally guy and gay roleplaying

Finally, thanks a lot.
>>
>>123424839
Is Waterford Whispers News like The Onion?
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>>123424262
>BOOM 5000 DAMAGE
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>>123425185
Nice bait.
>>
Somebody recommended me a "turbo" Cyber Dragon deck to get back into the game, but I don't even know what turbo means. Can anyone shed a light on this for me?
>>
>>123425471
>BEFORE ASKING TO BE SPOONFEEDED, TRY THE FOLLOWING:

>● Read the carefully cards.
>● Lurk and read carefully the archives.
>● Google your Deck before you post it here. If your deck is/was competitive it will probably have topped an event.
>>
>>123425072
Yes, but Irish
>>
>>123425658
So why isn't it called The Potato?
>>
>Literally guy even got his posts deleted immediately

Is /dng/ so bad now that we have to have our own permanent janny?
>>
>>123425551

>● Read the carefully cards.

what

>● Lurk and read carefully the archives.

>archives


>● Google your Deck before you post it here. If your deck is/was competitive it will probably have topped an event.

Google only gives me some random reddit post
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>>123425738
don't even attempt to post any neps
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>>123425731
Too obvious.
>>123425738
We keep him well fed, so he's loyal now.
>>
>>123425738
Having someone to clean up shitposter messes isn't a bad thing at all
Sometimes the shitposting makes this place unbearable
Shitposting not to be confused with funposting of course
>>
>>123425738
We've always had one, ever since they got really irritated by Accel's Iris Heart posting.
>>
>>123425058
>>123425738
>implying that's literally anon
She put a space between her replies. That's how the mexicans got her.

>disrespecting the dead like that
Deplorable.
>>
>>123425879
I wish cats were as loyal as jani.
>>
>>123425854
Yes, archives. We have those.
As for the rest, google better.
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>>123426165
they aren't the same nor go as far back
>>
>>123426165
>Yes, archives. We have those.
And they're shit. They go back maybe a month.
>>
>>123418996
>memeban
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i need suggestions for a dirty cheap deck that can still be decent
i have only 60 burgers
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>>123426550
just wait for structures
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>>123426639
3 of the new pendulum right?
>>
>>123425862
I don't think that he'd delete posts as long as they're on topic. I've attached some to on-topic posts and he hasn't deleted them
>>
>>123426550
Try geargiakuri.
>>
>>123426735
Three of that and a handful of 25 cent commons. And some staples here and there. ß60 should be more than enough.
>>
>>123426846
will check it

>>123427008
thanks friendo, you da best
>>
>>123426550
Zombie Hunt
>>
Fucking hell, is Checkmate going to keep updating once every 2 months despite Percy doing faster updates?
>>
>>123425058
>implying the literally guy was bad

Kill yourself.
>>
>>123427365
he was annoying and you know it
>>
>>123427365
>endorsing shitposting
>>
>>123427592
You're annoying.
>>
>>123427365
>W-why did my posts get deleted?
It was shitposting and you know it
>>
>>123427706
Your mom endorses this dick but I don't see you complaining about it, cu ckster.
>>
>>123427746
shut up I'm insecure about being annoying
>>
>>123427753
That's not what he said though, did you reply to the wrong person?

Besides, literallyanon would never be mean enough to say something like that.
>>
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What to add/how to finish this deck /dng/?
>>
>>123428004
OCG cards.
>>
>>123427592
>>123427706
>>123427753
By far not as bad as tripfags, though.
>>
>>123428004
upstart goblin and reckless greed
>>
>>123428093
for tcg play obviously
>>
>>123428004
Summoner Monk, Swallow's Nest, that one trap that lets you summon a banished Dark Monster, maybe a copy or two of Harpist, and staples
>>123428097
Of COURSE literally anon wasn't as bad as tripfags ;)
>>
>>123428004
3 swords of revealing light
>>
more pp18 spoilers when? I want #37
>>
Why does Nightmare Steelcage exist when Swords of Revealing Light is infinitely better?
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>>123428187
how about now
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>>123403175
F A B L E D S
To a lesser extent sharks
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What's your current favourite deck /dng/?
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>>123428724
>Nightmare Steelcage
just chalk it up to anime filler cards
>>
Why?
>>
>>123428774
Now, you delete it. Jk I don't really know man
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>>123428968
nostalgia hopefuls
>>
>>123428724
Anime, and because you can't just run 6 Swords of Revealing.
>>
>>123428862
synchron
with grayyyyyy lmaos on second
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Your $130 Destroyers and $90 Farmgirls are still good, right?
>>
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>>123428862
Moemails
>>
>>123428862
Declan's Devious Dudes are taking the spot as of right now
>>
>>123428862
Kozmo. I don't own it IRL, though. I'm not retarded.
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>>123428862
Magicians.
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>>123428862
Shadd--
Majespecters.
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>>123429261
This is so satisfying
I was upset I couldn't easily buy a Dorothy card because idiots were selling and buying them for 70+ dollars
Now these losers are just losing money and I'll be able to buy them for 50 cents in a week or so
I win :)
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>>123429261
Reminder that Hoban was right.
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>>123418352
Turn player has priority to chain.
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>>123430006
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>>123428862
Infernoids
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xth for trash cards that suit you perfectly
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>>123428862
OCG Burning Abyss is a thing of beauty.
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>>123431718
>3 new cards and 37 shitty Duelist Kingdom/Battle City reprints

Who would pay money for this garbage?
>>
>>123431831
nostalgiafags
>>
>>123431831
>Nostalgia set is marketed towards nostalgiafags
You could fill it with all the fucking kuriboh variants and those faggots would still unironically buy it.
>>
is this so called "me" the toughest duelist here?
no on ever wants to shadow duel him
>>
>>123431980
How do you ironically buy something?
>>
>>123432334
You buy it as a joke, like people who buy Ojamas or Dustons.
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>>123432330
I'm always here fag boy.
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>>123432430
You're a joke.
>>
>>123432446
are you "me"
im asking because every time someone says "why dont you shadow duel me" the other guy never accepts
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>>123432330
the fuck do you want?
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>>123428862
D/D/D or Monarchs. Both have some great monsters.
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>>123431980
>1 package with Kuriboh, Winged Kuriboh 1, 9, and 10, Kuribbon, Kurivolt, Kuriphoton, Rainbow Kuriboh, Kuribandit (the best one), Junkiriboh, Sphere Kuriboh (easily the second-best), and Relinkuriboh?

Fuck, I'd buy that.
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>Guy at locals bought a Kozmo deck sans Dark Destroyers for ~$450-500 from another regular who was getting out of the game for a while
>Didn't pay it in full
>Owes the guy ~$300
>Kozmo prices now
At least he has Ghost Ogres and high rarity staples, right?
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What has even been the more overpowered victoria you had your opponent over so he never player back.

Pic related.
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>>123434215
Can you try saying that in English instead of whatever monkey babel you just spouted?
>>
>>123434215
Did you just use Google Translate to try and fit in?
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>>123434119
You now know a guy who will never get $300 someone owes him.
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>>123434215
Fuck off, Mexican.
Gogeta SSJ4 should've gone seriously.
>>
If I'm going to buy a Spell Ruler card, and I have the option to get one with MRL or SRL on it, which one should I get?
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>>123434215
>What has even been the more overpowered victoria you had your opponent over so he never player back.
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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Artifact Super Quantum 3rd place
>36 players
Well at least it wasn't a team tourney.
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>>123434591
Always get the MRL if you can.

SRL is a dead giveaway that It's a reprint, and is worthless to collectors.
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>>123434215
>What has even been the more overpowered victoria you had your opponent over so he never player back.
u wot m8
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>>123434494
The worst part is he sold his deck because he needed the money for college. So now he's out around 300 bucks and doesn't have his textbooks
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>>123428862
the one thats winning, so D/d/d/d/d/d/d/d/special summon
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>>123434692
MRL it is then, unless they're ever overpriced compared to SRL

Also since you're so smart tell me
Is this a fake?
The borders look uneven, but idk if old yugioh cards were just bad quality or what
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>>123435130
Looks fake to me.
>>
I haven't been in the loop the past couple days: what's the deal with Kozmos? They suck now?
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>>123435302
thanks bud
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>>123434312
>>123434391
>>123434495
>>123434653
>>123434775
>dont understand la raza and meaning

gringos culeros

i mean how hard you have culeado your oponent motherfucker
>>
What the fuck?

Apparently the japs are dropping Ariadne and are bringing back Rafflesia.
Is it because of Twin Twister blowing the fuck out of their backrow or something?
>>
>>123435526
source: your ass
>>
>>123435495
The fuck is "culeado"?

>>123435526
Maybe because you need to draw Ariadne, it's normally only searchable by Paladin and Wavering.
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>>123435130
Is that Ultra? It's hard to tell from the low-quality pic.

It looks legit, probably just an error on the die-cutter setup. Someone may have gotten fired over it, but I wouldn't suspect it of being a counterfeit.
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>>123435526
>>123435752
>not using Ariadne AND Rafflesia

OMG

OMG

OM EN GEE

I DIDNT FUCKING KNEW

OMG OMG OMG

I DIDNT KNEW YOU COULDNT USE BOTH

BOTH

BOTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

ON YOUR DECK

OMG

YOU HAVE TO CHOSE

YOU CANT USE TWO GOOD CARDS IN THE SAME DECK
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>>123435720

look at the deck lists

http://ygodr.blog.jp/archives/1045982750.html
http://ygodr.blog.jp/archives/1045931097.html
http://ygorganization.com/ocg-11232015-ocg-japan-decklists/
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>>123435526
No, it's because Clash Circus Act is becoming more popular there because it's more aggressive.
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>>123435970
you're the guy selling it on ebay aren't you?
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>>123435998
I didn't say I'm not using them though.
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>>123436097
No, I just work in a printing office, and see miscut shit like that all the time.
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>>123436046
>http://ygodr.blog.jp/archives/1045982750.html
>ygodr.blog.jp
>.blog
>linking blogs on four chan

Go back to tmblr landwhale, I dont want to read about your personal life
>>
>>123436254

Damn, good bait

You earned this (you)
>>
>>123436353
it's lazy bait though
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>>123436480
All bait is lazy.
>>
>Hastor is only $0.25

Damn, that sucks. Even for a tin promo.
>>
>>123403175
Satellarknights
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>>123438506

Reminder that Konami made the Summer Triangle, Winter Triangle and Winter Hexagon, but no Spring Triangle for some reason
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>>123436048
>circus act
kill yourself and stop pushing your meme that never caught on.
>>
>>123440374
harsh
be mean to people that actually deserve it, like other bullies
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>>123440478
Fuck you.
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>konami will never make a banlist based on gameplay
>konami will always make a banlist based on jewgold
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>>123440591
be nice to me, i am sensitive
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>>123440693
Shut up faggot.
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>>123440764
jokes on you, i like being talked to like that

>>123438117
>synchro
are you surprised?
>>
>>123440971
I'm sorry, I didn't mean it.
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>>123441039
no takesies backsies
>>
>>123441118
I'm not taking anything back. I'm just clarifying that my previous comment was in jest.
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>>123438959
>Springtime Triangle comes out

Overlay 2/3 "Satellarknight" R4
Detach to add a "Stellar" from grave to had

We can dream
>>
>>123435526


What's twin twister and what does it do?
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>>123442135
MSTx2 for a discard
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>>123441720

Betelgeuse already adds from grave to hand
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>>123442412
I want to dream of good cards, anon.

Not think of bad ones.
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>>123441720
>>123442549
>Helmetknights still crying about not getting a 2 mat
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>>123442636
>their "2mat" card is going to be banned.
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>>123442760
>their 2 mat was generic and better played in other decks
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>>123442636
Not crying, wishing

We had our time in the sun, I'm not mad
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>>123402429
Who's the fag in the OP pic
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>>123442963
>We had our time in the sun
L M A O
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>>123443112
we won worlds
I had
>fun
playing the deck and did alright at my irrelevant locals, and I was able to cash out
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>He still hasn't switched to Magic or Hearthstone
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>>123443328
>Hearthstone

Stop shitposting.
>>
>>123443320
>worlds
L M A O

>I had
>fun
Faggot.
>>
>>123443328
>He doesn't play all 3
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>>123443427
Is "L M A O" supposed to be an argument or something
>>
>>123443464
this desu
Get on hearthstone every day to do the dailys, have a yugioh and magic deck is either of the playerbases want to play at locals
>>
>>123443525
Is
>won worlds
Supposed to mean something?
>>
>>123443464
>he doesn't play 1 exclusively
unfaithful degenerate
>>
Yo, anyone have any good Dark Magician decklists?
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>>123443328
>Hearthstonefag trying to sneak his irrelevant game into the daily Magic shilling
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>>123443770
Hearthstone's the most popular vidya in the world right now other than league and DOTA
>>
Who here is hyped for #2000?
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>>123443857
Nice meme pal
>>
Can we have a thunderking without the negation effect? The card really needs to go to two to be anti meta.
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>>123443923
Just use mistake
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>>123441720
ATK 1000 DEF 2600
2 or more Level 4 "tellarknight" monsters
Once per turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; excavate cards from the top of your Deck equal to the number of monsters used as this card's Xyz Material, you can Set any excavated Trap Cards, also send the remaining cards to the Graveyard. If this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard: You can add 1 "tellarknight" monster from your Graveyard to your hand.

:)
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lemme get at them foodstamps
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>page 8
ded
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D E D
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SHVI-JP039 裏風の精霊 Urakaze no Seirei (Spirit of the Backdraft)
Level 4 WIND Fairy-Type Effect Monster
ATK 1800
DEF 900
(1) If this card is Normal Summoned: You can add 1 Flip Monster from your Deck to your hand.
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>>123449568
I read that as 'Spirit of the Backyard'

>Captcha is grass
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>Blue-Eyes is still shit
>Monarchs completely shit on it
>Implying I cant just summon Alternative Dragon and pop Erebus
>implying I cant just dump White Dragon Spirit, revive it and banish dominion
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>>123449568
Oh boy, this'll be good for Shaddoolls!

Ha...
Haha...

;_;
>>
3 Brilliant Fusion, 2 Garnet for PePe, right?
>>
>Playing OG Trap Monsters
>Opponent plays Vanity's
>My Imperial Customs prevents it from going away
This deck just gets shat on. I hope we get a new OG Trap Monster in SHVI
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>Nigga gets mad as fuck because he lost to a first turn 7-mat lord magnus
>When he ragequits he says "google me, ya bum"
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>dueling kozmos with emem
>enemy main phase
>i have an empty field
>"farmgirl eff"
>pays 500 to search
>???
>ask if he's retarded
>"oh sorry cant read LOL"
>doesn't add the dark destroyer he searched back to the deck saying "you've got an empty field anyway"
>he goes to BP, apolgizes and swings with farmgirl
>damage juggler ;)
>he scoops
How in the FUCK do you fail to play one of the most helmet-tier decks around?
>>
>>123408656
>dragonpulse super
>don't even run it

pend call super is awesome though. and dragonpit
>>
I TOLD YOU FAGS KOZMOS ARE SHIT
>>
>>123443923

>we need more floodgates

shit /dng/ says
>>
>>123449568
Is this why they killed shaddolls, a stratos?
>>
>>123452485
Did you google it?
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updated the build to this post-feb list, haven't droped a game except one where i opened 0 monsters
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>>123455909
Which trap cards are those?
>>
>>123456079
3 xyz universe, 3 Icarus attack, 2 raptor's gust, and 2 the huge revolution is over
>>
>>123456497
Arigatou gozaimasu ^•^
>>
>>123457193
fuckin' weeb
Ieie
>>
I can't find a competitive TCG deck that satisfies me.
OCG? there's tons of decks i'd love to play and have already tested.
TCG? good god, those few deck ideas i had got completely smashed by this meta.

Any fun, TCG decks able to sometimes beat the meta?
>>
>>123458241
SpellCanceler deck
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>>123455909
So is huge revolution over starlight road better because it's a counter and doesn't SS? Or is it countering something specific? Not to updated right now.
>>
>>123455909
>except one where i opened 0 monsters
Yeah. And with 11 traps and 9 spells it's no wonder it happened. That's half your deck right there.
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>>123455909
Replace Huge Revolution with Raidraptor Desperate ;)
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>>123458241

>best TCG deck is just a watered down version of the best OCG deck
>complain about the TCG meta

what
>>
>>123458791
Where did i imply that i played the best meta deck in OCG?
In OCG there are more ways to build satisfying decks that can also snatch victories against the meta.
In TCG, i find way less options.
>>
>>123458982

>In OCG there are more ways to build satisfying decks that can also snatch victories against the meta.

In what way? It's not the card game is THAT much different.
>>
>>123459201
Solemn notice alone allows more counters to every meta, but there are lots of other examples.
>>
Infernity archfiend at 2 when?
>>
>>123449568
Summon Spirit, search Squamata, fuse with Quickplay fusion for Wendigo, dump Shaddoll Fusion to grave. You got a wall to prevent OTK and when Wendigo does die she gets you Shaddoll Fusion. Construct got banned but Shaddoll can still work, just use more Hedgehogs and Roots.
>>
>>123422448
Pends are like a DoT but instead of D its +
>>
>tfw want to play slifer
>all the decks for it are shit
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Thread's dead, post Noble Knights.
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Keepthing thread alive with Chron Artifacts
>>
>>123466060
Add some Cydras and fortress to the side to absorb some kozmo ships. I'd max out the dualities and possiby cut a cyclone for a mst.

And unless you're planning on using more than ones of Mr.bones I suggest you cutting a gorgonic for SHark or something.
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>>123466804
+1 Pot
+ 1MST
+ 1Shark
- 1 Gorg
- 1 Ring of destruction
Updated gona test.

Also Super Quant Artifact is broken.
>>
>>123467310
Not really up to date when it comes to the newer cards and what they do. What do the quantam guys do?
>>
>>123467430
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmRaiO4gsjg
>>
So how come I never draw wavering eyes? and when I do, I draw all 3 and no pends? And opponent isn't playing pends? and a stick of butter is like 3.50?
>>
>>123469114
The answer to all of those is the same.
God hates you.
>>
COMMON MAXX "C" WHEN
>>
>>123469453
How poor are you that you can't even afford the super?
>>
>>123470830
How dumb are you that you can't even reply to posts correctly?
>>
>All beginner decks in the pasta are outdated

help
>>
>>123472351
Just play PePe
>>
>card has better artwork in a gameboy color game than in the card game
>>
>>123469948
How easy is it to pull maxx c anyway?
>>
happy thanksgiving to americans

don't reply back to me
>>
>>123474516
Don't tell me what to do. Be thankful for your (You)
>>
>>123474516
Thanks man!
I hope you have a good day too :)
>>
>>123472351
Have you tried Google?
>>
should I buy odd-eyes fusion for 22 bucks or will price plummet?
>>
Why is Pojo so slow?
It's even slower than this thread
>>
I've been testing a Hazy Flame deck lately. I haven't had a PePe matchup (or any pendulum for that matter) on dn yet, but I'm curious how a more experienced player thing they might stack up. They seem just like a slower precursor to Majespecter. With enough Anti-Summon it could be "sekrit tek" against some meta matchups, maybe?
>>
So if I attack when a Super Quantum Xyz monster is equipped with this, can I send it to the graveyard immediately after the first attack so it can attack 2 more times?
>>
Sup, /dng/?
I'm a beginner with Yugioh. I've been running an XYZ gadget deck, which I enjoy a lot because of the searching and ability to throw monsters out like there's no tomorrow.

Are there any other easy-to-play/fun type decks out there? I think I need some variety.
>>
>>123477009
Noble Knights
>>
>>123477009
OCG Raidraptors to Rank-Up like a champ.
Harpies to swarm with no need for pendulums and also access to Chidori and Zerofyne.
OCG DeDeDe for comboing.

Don't expect to actually win matches against anything but petdecks.
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A happy thanks"you for saying literally"giving to everyone here at dng
>>
Dead thread, share pictures of cute Yugioh-related females.
>>
>>123478954
Right back atcha, anon. Get fat and pull a Bank Destroyer.
>>
>>123478989
>>
>>123478989
>>
>>123478989
>posts most basic looking Harpie
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>>123478989
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>>123481115
For some reason I only have Dancer pictures. I've got plenty of other qt's, but no Channeler/Queen/Harpist.
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>>123481408
Channeler a shit
Queen is the queen though, you need to fix thag
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>>123481581
I found one featuring Queen.
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>Having things to be thankful for
>>
What petdeck are you thankful for, dng?

I'm thankful for my Harpies
>>
>>123481956
All my decks are petdecks. I'm thankful for my obviously superior build of Harpies, and for my Kaiju Dolls.
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>>123481956
Gimmick Puppets and Ojamas.
>tfw no more support for either, mainly gimmick puppets
>>
>>123481956
D/D/D and Volcanics.
>>
>>123481729
Cute art, my two favorite Harpies <3
>>
>>123481956
Thankful I finally found a hobby (yugioh)
I suck at reading and am not great it, but I really like it
Also thankful I have you guys :)
>>
>>123481956

Ultra Athletes
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>>123481956
Madolches and R/B Haruhi
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>>123485021
How do i make an Ultra Athletes deck, anon? Ever since they debuted in Duelist Alliance i wanted to make one, but had no clue where to start.
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>>123485338

pic related is what I use. results may vary as I switched to speedroid engine after ROTA got hit.
>>
>>123485946
>Speedroid engine
>No Invoker
That's like, the entire point of the thing
>>
>>123486214

Oops. Good catch.
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>>123485946
>chimeratech but no cybers
>>
Solemn Notice is so getting banned in the TCG, right?
>>
>>123485338
>Ultra Athletes
>Commons and Rares
Explain this
>>
>>123480697
who is this semen demon/fluid droid
>>
>>123487382

Banned? no
Limited? definitely, but not after 1 format
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>>123487382
>Solemn Notice is so getting banned in the TCG, right?
It'll get rarity bumped to shit that's for sure.
>>
>>123487510
she's a mexican, don't bother.
>>
>>123481956
Normal pendulums. Painful decision, unexpected dai, and RotA all fit perfectly in madolches to give them a usable pendulum engine. If they're using removal on the pendulums, they're not using it on your 'dolche spells, and vice versa.
>>
>>123487704
so? what are you, gay?
>>
>>123487881
no, you shouldn't like mexicans unless you're a spic yourself.
>>
more anti-meta

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27674317
>>
>>123485946
>>123486214
Post updated list please. Also, why no Air Force?
>>
>Great Turkey of Gratitude
>Level 10
>Light
>Winged-Beast
>3000 atk 3000 def
>Can only be special summoned once per duel
>When this card inflicts battle damage, draw 2 cards

Y/N
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>>123487960
I bet you can't even get a white girl.
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>>123487510
Jackie Bernal
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>>123488278
>Tattoos
>Spacers
>Fat
>Xbox
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>>123487960
Mexican women are very unlikely to be feminists and can cook
What's not to like?
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>>123488278
>>123487960
ugh never mind, she's fat for my petite taste. Im sorry anon, I shoud've trusted you
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>>123488278
>Xbox
>Gages
Nah
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>>123488159
i have a white gf, thank you very much

>>123488278
ugghhhh, just imagine when she's old

>>123488402
>not mentioning she's a spic
you're fucking garbage vorcia, you know that?

>>123488439
ummm, that they're mexican??? you fucking retard.
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>>123488678
>racism
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>>123488678
Someone's mad.
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>>123488402
>implying she'd even be interested in a bony asian who posts anime and still plays yugioh in 2015
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>>123488678
>>>/pol/
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>>123488827
>>123488994
Reddit please leave. You are not welcome here.
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>>123488815
Isn't this a /gsg/ meme?
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>>123422930
im hoping theyll bring the booster pack that went along with this over, and just throw in the new cards from this. honestly i just want that fucking new.
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>>123488075
>against Memeroids, pet decks and players that kept doing completely retarded plays

Am I supposed to be impressed?
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how do I use this meme card?
why did Konami had to rape it so hard when it got printed?
bahsahka soru?
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I find the irony of Spirit of the Tailwind being Wind, the attribute of the worst doll fusion and the only one of the 6 attribute fusions that's outright bad, almost delicious. That can't be an accident, it's like a 1 in 6 chance.
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>Deskbot 007 + Deskbot 001 makes ignister
>Ignister pops 005 or 006 to spin
>005 special summons 002 from grave
>002 searches 005
Really, deskbot's only problem is the terrible early game, and 004 helps with that.
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https://youtu.be/1vFyPzF8dnw
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>>123489272
one off in superheavy samurai
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>playing with Dinomist
>playing the Dino Thunder theme song on repeat
>winning with Rex
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>>123488142
Alternatively
>can only be summoned once per duel
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>thread has been up for 2 days
>barely reaching 600 posts
>80% of the thread is shitposting

Can we not make anymore threads?
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>>123491884
I would rather you just stop posting
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>>123491884
>80% of the thread is shitposting

Thats not true, though. This thread is slow as fuck but its the best thread we have had in quiet a long time.
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>>123491884
It's actually mostly shitpost free, which is why it's lasted so long.
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>>123492147
>just a moment ago there was a "discussion" about jackie bernal being mexican and why white girls are "the best"

>best thread in a while
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>>123491884
>http://pastebin.com/7Ek4GFUW
>Tier 1 and Tier 2 decks: These decks are the ones that will be most played at a tournament level. Learn to play an easy deck so that you can learn basic mechanics, rulings, and things like card advantage / tempo before coming here. Or alternatively, just grab one of these and win games because yugioh is unbalanced as fuck.


=================Tier 1 decks===============
Tellarknight:
http://imgur.com/K0vkPR7

Shaddoll Seraph:
http://imgur.com/HNL8VSq

Nekroz:
http://imgur.com/98kzUIr
==============================================
===========Tier 2 and petdecks=======================
Zefra:
http://imgur.com/0NS13bb

Yosenju:
http://imgur.com/3JxnKGD

Hungry Burger:
http://imgur.com/IBUJ6xw

Synchron spam:
http://imgur.com/crwFwts

Madolche:
http://imgur.com/VpbhxrR
==============================================


These are from previous formats. They may or may not still be relevant. Use with caution.
============Non updated decks================================
>Burning Abyss
http://pastebin.com/7DdcGfNx

>Qliphort
http://pastebin.com/fhBDJTiP

>Nekroz
http://pastebin.com/fPP7xJfn

>Satellar Knight (Good for beginner)
http://pastebin.com/pUG01fW5

>Harpie (Waifu deck)
http://pastebin.com/N6spjtzQ

>Heraldics
http://pastebin.com/08mxvYm1

>Gusto (Waifu deck)
http://pastebin.com/rsM3vSfA

>Crystal Beasts
http://pastebin.com/TMduD4j5

>Winky Facts (Chronomaly Artifact)
http://pastebin.com/9ac2pjek

>D R A G O N S (Mythic)
http://pastebin.com/X4GtCrqJ

>Spellbooks
http://pastebin.com/r7tTce04

>Shaddoll
http://pastebin.com/4HGceQrA

>Gadgets (Traditional dng deck to learn with)
http://pastebin.com/1ejimQR7

>Fire Kings
http://pastebin.com/uJ1MtEXr

>Evilswarm
http://pastebin.com/32yUpQGy

>Blackwings
http://pastebin.com/sg9jy2Jf


We should update this at least
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>>123492387
Let's discuss the CURRENT American TCG and what belongs in each tier Tier 1 there

T1: PePe/EMem, Kozmo
T2: There are other decks?
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>>123492580
Just pepe on T1.

Then add Shit Tier: Kozmo and everything else.
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>>123492293
>3 posts
>''dicussion''

You are the only one shitposting. Fuck off.
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Happy Thanksgiving /dng/!
Reminder to vote on a date and time for the full power OCG tourney with all the fixins
http://strawpoll.me/6094969
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>>123492580
Kozmo are trash

I assume Konami will actually give them good new cards though and not leave them to die
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>>123491884
I always wonder why people like you come in to the thread just to say something of that nature. Can you tell me why? Also, how do you get so much time to shitpost?
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outskilled
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>>123492580
>T2: There are other decks?

This format our american tier 1 decks are so fucking weak that fucking anything can top.

You like madolche? Ok put in some brilliant fusions and otk the fuck out of people

You like Infernoids? Have fun, it doesn't even take much sack to fuck this meta

BA? Yea neutered BA can still top, sure

Tella? Sure, why not

If you're a roguefag this is the format for you, until the next set.
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>>123494292
If anything can top this format, where's your top if you're so tough???
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>>123494292
ARG and Regional results say otherwise.

9 of 10 times what tops is Pepe, then Kozmo.
There's no Madolche, Infernoid or other rogue shit tops.
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>>123494409
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLrcz_6o0tA

I don't travel to YCSs/ARGs, but this format is a joke.
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>>123494557
>How to be stupid 101
>Step 1: Say shit with no backing evidence whatsoever
And any minute now you'll move on to step 2
>Realize you're wrong but argue about it to save face on an anonymous website
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>>123494796
I still don't see any citation showing all these Madolche, Infernoid and shit deck topping.
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>>123494942
Look at the past ARG. Look at the link above. Look at any regional.
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Uncontested: Kozmo
Tier 1: Performage, Majespecters, Brilliant Fusion
Tier 2: Infernoids, Nekroz w/ Performage
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>Bout a month ago
>Trying to sell a luster for $20
>Guy shows interest but offers $15 AND wants some more cards
>Decline his offer and explain its a 3 of in the best deck, I know it's only going to raise but just need some cash
>"It's a super and supers never get that high, it's only going to drop soon." In a condescending voice.
>Refuse and just pack my binder away
>Luster is now $40
I love it when shit like this happens. Tell me your stories when you made a bad trade or didn't trade and it worked out in your favor.
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>>123494796
The other guy is right though. Despite this format being pretty low in terms of powerlevel, there's only been one instance of Madolches topping and that was a Regional, and Infernoids have only topped an ARG tournament so far. Burning Abyss has completely fucking disappeared and I have no clue what FUCK you're talking about with Tellars

Everything else has mainly been Pendulums and Kozmo tops. Like seriously, if you're in the business of proving someone wrong then take the 5 seconds to post a fucking source or something
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>>123495051
You're the one trying to push your view, your side of the argument is the one that should bring the evidence.

Until then: Source = Your ass.

The only thing that does top is Pepe and Kozmo.
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>>123495069
That's not how tiers work.
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>>123495069
>Deck Usage but not percentage of Tops
What are you trying to prove?
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Holy shit, I just did nothing for 30 turns against psyframes and decked them out, how do I make a webm of this
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>>123492580
Madolche, Infernoid, Harpie, Geargia, Tellar, Magician variants.
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>>123495217
>>123495246
>percentage of tops
THAT'S not how tiers work. The more a deck is used, the more people expect the deck to win. Tiers aren't based on tops.
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>>123495346
>Tiers aren't based on tops.

Please put a trip so I can filter you and stop reading your nonsense.
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>>123495346
Sorry to say m8 but i'm pretty sure you're retarded
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who else is buying the buster blader nostalgia deck only to give this little fella a good bed so he can finally sleep as much as he wants without waking up?
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>>123495346

>Tiers aren't based on tops.

/dng/ EVERYONE
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>>123481956
Magnus Turbo and D/D/D
>>123494409
You should shadow duel him
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>>123495346
>Tiers aren't based on tops.
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>>123495346
Anon please
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Why are you on 4chan and not spending time with your family?
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>>123495208
I don't give a fuck if you believe me or not, just know that if you actually check tops you'd be embarrassed.
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>>123495069
Deck usage is not the same thing as tiers fuccboi
>>123495287
The player was probably stupid if he didn't run rabbit or some other shit
>>123495191
People like this are the best meme at locals
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>>123495346
>99% of Decks are now Pure Jurracs
>Jurracs are now tier 1 despite losing 99% of the time to the remaining 1%.
I had NO idea that this is how it worked but I am enlightened.
Thank You.
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>>123495450
>>123495518
>>123495556
>>123495635
>>123495646
>>123495809
>>123495835

guys, the joke is on us, he was merely pretending
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>>123495191
>played apex avian odd eyes magicians when the starter deck and DUEA came out
>paid like 30 bucks for everything
>forgot to sell everything
>used odd-eyes in Qli, price remained stable
>now playing odd eyes magicians
It's so infrequent that my investments and laziness pay off.
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>>123495940
Why is it the only way to stimulate conversation on /dng/ is to purposely bait everyone?
>>
>There are actually people on /dng/ who think results, literally, don't matter

How exactly do we go about purging stupid people like this? Or are we just doomed?
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>>123495835
>Jurrac Giganoto is the new thing to turbo out
>The fucking meteor synchro is the best out to everything
>Guiaba and velo become money cards because they can help with making evolzars
Full Keks meta confirmed
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>>123495835
Let's say in every single tournament now there are 12 Hurrah players and 4 Kozmo players
And every tournament, top 4 always goes to Kozmo

This means Kozmo is unquestionably a tier above Hurricane despite how represented Jurrac is.
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>>123495940
Thanks for the (You) anon, here are some more for everyone else

>>123495973

>>123495992

>>123495993
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>>123495993
/dng/ loves talking shit but when it comes to dueling and tournaments, /dng/ knows nothing or very little. This will never EVER change.
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>>123496168
>a tier above Jurrac despite
Fucking autocorrect

But things like Infernities stayed tier 2/relevant enough by topping a single event every format or so despite nobody else ever playing it.
>>
Checkmate update maybe in another month
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>>123496262
What else do you honestly expect from a bunch of shitposters on a Mongolian Chinese Cartoons forum
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>>123495764
That's how arguments works anon, if I make an statement or argument and you say "no no, is not like that" and I don't believe you, you're supposed to bring the evidence to back you up and prove me wrong.

This shit is logic 101.

>Counterclaims must be provable and supportable by reasons and evidence. Not just, 'Because I said so.' When you're countering an argument, in order to disprove it make sure that you disprove it with evidence.

So until then Source = Your ass.
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>>123496426
I said rogue shit can and does top, and you said it doesnt. So you go look it up, dumbass.

Also by your atrocious grammar, you must be European. Go to bed, lesser fucking life form.
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>>123403179

>EM Infernity

Dude like what?
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>>123496636
>Still no citation

Source = Your ass
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>>123496168
>63 players brings Kozmo
>1 player brings Jurrac
>Jurrac takes 1st in a highly improbably situation
>Jurrac is a tier above Kozmo because of placing 1st
ya ok kiddo
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>>123495993
Just post more of the opposite. Stupid people are prone to hivemind mentalities and when they see a lot of the same opinions popping up, they naturally adopt them.

Basically: Become a better poster yourself and contribute to threads more.
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>>123496426

>I don't believe you, you're supposed to bring the evidence to back you up and prove me wrong.
Wow
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look I am meta now
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>>123496725
ok
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>>123495346
>Tiers aren't based on tops.

>>123495346
>Tiers aren't based on tops.

>>123495346
>Tiers aren't based on tops.
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>>123496840
Then you have a thread full of retards talking about shit they don't understand like now
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>>123496995
Yes, this is exactly how you dispute a claim. You can't just say shit and expect everyone to believe it`
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>>123497231
>>123496995
>>123497018
>An argument stands on legs of evidence. If there is no support or clear justifications for an argument, it cannot be sound or valid.

>A person can refute an opposing argument by successfully countering it through evidence, whether it's evidence that conclusively disproves it by its findings or because it's more recent or credible evidence.

Until then

>shit decks are topping XD

Source = your ass.
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>>123496730
Neither of these scenarios are how you actually determine how good something is (ignoring the concept of "tiering" them). It's about how often a deck gets top such and such, not just about a deck getting top such and such OR how often the deck shows up at a tournament.
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>>123497384
If you bothered reading my post, you'd see that I was actually supporting you, you dumb retard
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>>123497231
That is true. Let me quote the rest of that post. It's missing context.

>I make an statement or argument
>You say "no no, is not like that"
>I don't believe you, you're supposed to bring the evidence to back you up and prove me wrong.

The one making the claim is the guy asking for evidence which is wrong. I'm probably getting baited but I have to follow my own advice to post more non-retardation.
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>>123497565
What the fuck are you even saying? That's right, that's exactly how it works. If you make a claim or an argument and someone asks you for more information or evidence to back it up, you're supposed to present that evidence in order to strengthen your argument. Otherwise you're either spouting shit or just straight up fucking lying, which considering how hard you've been trying to circle around the topic, I'm going with the latter here
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>>123497454
I know, I added your quote for that reason so people can see it when reading the reply chain.

>>123497565
/dng/ can't into refutation of arguments.
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>>123497384
I made a claim, you refuted.
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>>123496636
>no argument
>''y-y-yuro!!!!11''

You fatties are so dumb.
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>>123459539
fuck that, put him at 3

archfiends cant do shit to the meta
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>>123498057
read it again then, stupid euro.
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>>123497783
Dude, guy number 1 is making a claim. He presents no evidence to back up that claim. Guy 2 comes along and says, guy 1 is full of shit. Guy 1 asks for evidence even though he has provided no evidence for his original claim to begin with.

Now, I AGREE that in order to refute Guy 1's claim, Guy 2 should present some facts, but Guy 1 needs facts to or else they can just run around a make up shit and I guess we have to believe them.
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Honestly surprised that nobody has done the
>Not going to spoonfeed you XD
thing yet.
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>>123498272
>no argument
>''y-y-yuro!!111''

Shut up, fatty.
>>
Let's make this easy.

1. Tommy says that the rain is made of water.

2. Jimmy says no nigga you're wrong, the rain is not made of water, is made from the blood of an old god or some retarded edgy shit.

If Jimmy wants Tommy to believe him, Jimmy must bring evidence to refute Tommy's argument.
That's how refutation of arguments work.
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>>123498473
>Both make a claim with no evidence
>Second guy has to bring evidence
I know how it works but your example is retarded
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>>123498473
what you're missing is that the stupid fuck who said that (though it's true) is jimmy in this situation.
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>>123498473
>Let's make this easy.
>1. Tommy says that the rain is made of God's piss.
>2. Jimmy says no nigga you're wrong, the rain is not made of God's piss, it's made of molecules.
>If Jimmy wants Tommy to believe him, Jimmy must bring evidence to refute Tommy's argument.
>That's how the Dark Ages happened.
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>>123498473
But Tommy can easily refute and settle this back and forth shit by simply providing evidence.
"No Jimmy you stupid hick, it isn't and here's the evidence, so unless you have some counter evidence I'd say to shut the fuck up and sit down, you fucking retard."
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>>123498473
It's not the same as the analogy though when you're making a claim that's presenting a new idea that isn't already established knowledge

If you're suggesting something completely new the burden is on you to back up your own point.
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>>123498473
>>123498385
No, what the fuck, in both of those cases that's not how it fucking works. The one who makes the initial claim is the one who has to provide evidence. You can't say something, have someone else say something and then say OH YEAH WELL WHERE'S *YOUR* EVIDENCE, you're the one who has to back your evidence up fucking first and THEN the other guy brings up his counter evidence

Holy shit has no one on this fucking shit general spent time in a fucking high school/college lecture? Y'all niggas are dumb as fuck
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WHO THE FUCK ARE JIMMY AND TOMMY
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>>123498938
Before that, who the FUCK are YOU?
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>/dng/
These are some of the best posts I've ever screencapped, can't wait to use them this Christmas!
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>>123498938
two hypothetical bitch boys
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>>123498836
Reread that second quote again.
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>>123499064
They're shitty hypotheticals, Tommy apparently just states random facts for no reason and Jimmy is a retard who believes in stupid shit. I rate the characters a shit/10.
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>>123499050
I have some of your posts capped as well gay boy. I hope that you enjoy them
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I love how all of this started because one guy just refused to post a link or any type of evidence of Madolches, Noids and Tellars topping. Just that ONE little thing led to all of this shit

Good on you shitposter-kun
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>>123499196
this is why i said they were bitch boys
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>>123498836
>An argument stands on legs of evidence. If there is no support or clear justifications for an argument, it cannot be sound or valid. A writer can refute an opposing argument by successfully countering it through evidence, whether it's evidence that conclusively disproves it by its findings or because it's more recent or credible evidence.

You're retarded anon

>Definition of Refutation

>You may remember arguing with your siblings as a child about which water park or amusement park your family should visit. Perhaps you loved the Arctic Plunge at the water park, and your brother preferred the Wild Demon coaster at the amusement park.

>If your brother presented his case for preferring the amusement park, then you probably also refuted it by presenting your case for the water park. This is only one example of how naturally an argument and the refutation of an argument fit into our lives. Let's look into these concepts more closely.

>Refutation is simply disproving an opposing argument. It is an important rhetorical skill because it is frequently the hinge point as to whether or not a writer or speaker successfully persuades the audience. We often see argument and refutation for a particularly controversial topic. This means that a reasonable person could easily prefer either side with valid justifications for doing so. Therefore, it is all the more difficult for a writer to persuade an audience to his or her perspective because the audience usually has their own pre-established beliefs and preferences.

>However, when a writer takes the initiative to face the very best arguments head-on and is able to first acknowledge their validity and then refute or disprove them, it is all the more persuasive.

>A refutation, takes this a step further by actually presenting evidence to disprove the opposing arguments.
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>>123499264
Remember when /dng/ spent a whole day discussing whether or not an FTK can happen on Turn 2?
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>>123497430
>neither
The first scenario said "every tournament". So if the kozmo topping thing happened 100 times out of 100, that's definitely how tiering works. Even in the Jurrac topping once example, Kozmo got 7 of the top 8 spots while Jurrac got 1, you couldn't say Kozmo was a worse deck due to that.
>>
>>123499050
doesn't sound like you've been here very long if this is some of the best.

I liked
>PROPHECY IS JUST EMPTY ADVANTAGE, JUDGMENT WONT DO SHIT
>WOW NOW THAT SOUL CHARGE EXISTS WE SHOULDN'T RUN UPSTART
>LIFE=CARD ADVANTAGE NOW?? SO LIKE 2000LP=1 CARD???
>PROPHECY HAS NO OUTS TO LEAD YOKE
And of course when fergul said tour guide is a -1 or some shit
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>>123499196
Implying Tommy and Jimmy aren't the hottest new 2-man comedy group
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>>123499264
This shit's hilarious dude. Pic is definately related
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>>123499264
What counts as a ''top''? Regionals? YCS only? Because we all know what Madolche won a regional. Noids won a YCS and I'm sure Tellars topped some stuff as well.
>>
has /dng/ ever been right about anything ever
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>>123499359
It was obviously aimed at the exaggerated misrepresentation of what they were saying and not what they actually meant.
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>>123499482
/dng/ has been right when it called you a faggot. So there's that
>>
>>123499482
Even with the few shills, /dng/ was right on the money about Noble Knights being shit, and that Merlin wasn't going to save a fucking thing. So at least we have that
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>>123499572
that never happened though?
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>STILL NO MADOLCHE TOP LINKS
>STILL NO TELLARS TOP LINKS
>STILL NO BA TOP LINKS

Source = Your ass
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>>123499641
I must be dreaming again

Let's be more than this
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>>123499641
Shut up faggot
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>>123499342
It was just 1 retard and like 10 others who knew they could add fuel to the fire by agreeing with 1 retard.
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>>123499475
For TCG I'd mostly go with YCS. I'm sure over the years you've seen random tops by random decks that never actually matter at regionals. If we took every single one or two-off instance of these sort of things as proof a deck was "good", there'd be a lot of good decks, which we know isn't true.
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>>123499690
>STILL NO MADOLCHE TOP LINKS

We talked about that madolche top for a few threads when it happened.

LURK MORE
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>>123499342
What was the verdict though?
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Can anyone share cool jap decklists and videos for godcards with new support that are actually not consistently shit?
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>>123499790
Just post the fucking link, that is literally all anyone is asking for

POST THE FUCKING LINK HOLY SHIT IT WOULD TAKE YOU TWO SECONDS, END THIS SHITPOSTING BY JUST POSTING A SINGLE FUCKING LINK YOU DIPSHIT
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>>123499690
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decks/Satellarknight
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decks/Burning+Abyss
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decks/Madolche
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>>123499782
Over the years there have been a ton of different formats though.

Just because X-Sabers are horrible now doesn't mean they weren't ever good. Just because Volcanics are kind of awful now doesn't mean they weren't good at some points.
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>>123499901
>w-w-why won't you guys spoonfeed me???
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>>123499782
I know. I agree with what you said.

But the topic was certain decks topping events and not about actually good decks topping.

>For TCG I'd mostly go with YCS

I agree with this as well. Lots of people don't take regionals seriously and there are lots of people who take T2/T3 decks to regionals after getting the invite.
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>>123500162
>Building your own decks
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>>123500013
I think it's pretty obvious the overall intention of when people ask what tops matter arew the ones that matter to now and not from when X-Sabers were good.

It's also important to note that not even 1 off tops in YCS really prove a deck is a good or relevant really. It's a matter of consistently showing up in both high and low levels of competition. So even really saying only tops in YCS matters isn't technically really true. There's always gonna have to be some level of critical thinking to have to apply.
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>>123500238
>>123500238
>>123500238
New thread
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>>123499901
Fuck off back to /r/yugioh and ask them you dumb faggot.
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>>123500281
>50 post early
Nah we'll stay here.
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So how the fuck are Madolche supposed to compete, anyway?
Main trap stun and hope you open it?
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>>123500210
This guy has the right idea
>>123500293
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>>123500293
>>123500823
Reddit really is better at the game and is more helpful I suppose...
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>>123505359

Considering Reddit almost won our /dng/ tournament...
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im going to sell my deck (pic related)
how much $$$ you guys think i need to sell it for
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>>123516109
15 burgers
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>>123516527
Im not american. How much is that in real money?
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>>123516737
15 dollars, 240 pesos, 14 euros
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>>123516904
But just silent honor ark worth that
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>>123517149
so? i could not pay more that 15 dollars for a shitty deck like that one
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