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Wondrous Amazon Edition

(emergency thread pls excuse pasta)

Lived fast died young >>123361083


>Patch 1.07 Info and How to Access the DLC
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/11/20/bloodborne-the-old-hunters-out-tuesday-patch-1-07-detailed/

>Planners
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
http://bloodborne.frontbuffer.com

>MP Range Calculator
https://mpql.net/tools/bloodborne/

>Screenshots
http://gematsu.com/gallery/bloodborne/
http://imgur.com/a/UsDJ2

>Guide Scans
http://justsomefaggot.imgur.com/

>Concept Art
http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_bloodborne_a.html

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules: http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Chalice Speedrun Guide
[YouTube] Bloodborne: Chalice speedrun to Cursed Rotted Foetid Isz (embed)
http://imgur.com/a/YobZp

>CD finds & Weapon Variants
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1163029848
http://pastebin.com/V03vDSCq (embed) (embed)
http://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3184gy/chalice_dungeon_resources_faq/

>Where to go next in BB
http://pastebin.com/kr9TbvKS (embed)

>Wikis
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com
http://bloodborne.wikidot.com/
http://bloodborne.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodborne

>I need help in Chalice Dungeons!
1. Make sure you don't have an Oath rune equipped, your network is set to Worldwide, & your chalice is set to Open
2. Set a password with at least one number & one letter (the more the better)
3. Provide glyph if necessary
4. Due to 1.05, there is no longer a way to Dungeon skip via SRRC
5. More info regarding MP for CD's @ http://pastebin.com/R2ZSmner (embed)

>Wheel, Fight Club, and Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/dD7Cv5mx (embed)
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Delivery for Rom from Kos
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Anyone help with Ludwig? Pass is bbg567
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>Just get the DLC today
>Haven't played in forever
>First character is lvl 87
>Wondering why the item for the DLC isn't here
>Realize I started new game plus+ on that character and didn't actually do anything yet
>Next best thing I have is a level 50 Arcane build

Is that good enough? What's the recommended level for the DLC?
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get you asses here, we'll come back to this one after that other one maxes out
>>123376245
>>123376245
>>123376245
>>123376245
>>123376245
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Living Failures was piss easy compared to Ludwig. I didn't even had to use the Shaman Bone Blade.
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on my 24th try for NG orphan of kos on my ARC character

am I just really fucking bad or what
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I haven't played this game since September, and now I've just found out today that the DLC dropped yesterday. Is there anything else I missed?

Is the DLC worth?
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>>123387707
it's worth
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>>12338497>>123384978
Was super hard on my arcane build too. Bolt gemmed saw spear did the trick for me. Midrange to bait his jumps in p1, and hug him hoping for the best in p2. Viscerals are useless since arcane builds shouldnt have a lot of skill.
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IMPORTANT:

Has anyone tried Arc gems in the Pizza Cutter?
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>>123380492
>raped
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>>123387707
>"is the best DLC in any souls games so far worth it?"
gee boss dunno
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>>123380634
I'll help you if you help me friend
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THAT'S IT


I'VE HAD IT

I FUCKING QUIT

FUCK THE OLD HUNTERS

FUCK LUDWIG

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT

FUCK

FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK'

GOD DAMN I'VE PROBABLY SPENT A GOOD 24 HOURS TOTAL TRYING TO KILL THIS FUCKING FAGGOT BUT I KEEP DYING AT THE END OF HIS SECOND PHASE

EVERY SINGLE TIME

I'VE HAD IT

I'M SO FUCKING TIRED OF FIGHTING HIM OVER AND OVER

AND OVER

AND OVER AGAIN

AGAIN

AND AGAIN

I'M FUCKING DONE

FUCK YOU FROM

AND FUCK YOU SONY
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>get to Ludwig for the first time
>wrecking his shit
>haha this is easier than Amelia what's the big deal
>phase 2
>he starts comboing the shit out of me with his sword
>back off to heal
>he shoots a fucking lazer beam and gets me down to 2% health
>back off further and frantically mash triangle
>suddenly he starts doing MLGS R2s and snipes me from across the room

Well fuck
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Are there any Skill weapons that benefit a great deal from Beastmode? I've got the blade of mercy right now and it's decent, but the damage increase I get for max beasthood is not very high. It's also tough to actually get the full combo off on anything due to lack of hitstun. Was looking at the beasthunter saif, the move set looks nice with the escape from the transform attack.
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>>123395740
>hollowed
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>>123380931
You have it good mate
>Get DLC
>The item doesn't fucking spawn even though I meet the conditions
GG FuckSoft
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What's an easy boss that people beckon for that I can still access at level 80? I need Insight and this seems like the best way.

I've been getting a lot of beckoners for Amygdala, but most of them sit there and make me do the work.
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>>123395740
why so salty?
if you are having a problem with ludwig just summon Valty, you fucking sperglord
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>>123395682
Saif has two ARC scaling abyssals plus 27.2% fire gem.
Kos has one triangular 9.8% ARC+72 flat damage plus two 67 flat arcane gems. It's not even the highest damage output i can get, i will grind tomorrow for arcane gems with flat arcane bonus.
>>123395721
It really is. You can host in both Hunter's Nightmare and laboratory at the same time if Laurence is active as boss.
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>do a straight quality build because thats what I always do first in Souls
>Cleaver is basically the only weapon I can use
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Why does Bloodborne has the shit jumping controls from DaS1? Can't remember how many times I've accidentally jumped instead of rolling during a fight.
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How many quest are in Research Hall? i have a save on USB but i accidentally killed on of the speaking enemies. The one talking about eyes.
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>>123380634
Joining
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>>123395740
>Frenzied
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>>123380225
Re posting from previous thread for friendly help

If anyone wants any tips on how to solo LUDWIG here is what i did:

New game+ stats and soul lvl
Level:100
vitality 30
endur:31
stre:34
skill:26
blood:12
arcan:17

Weapon: lvl 10 axe with 460atk

Rune:lake and great lake for maximum damage reduction,impurity to summon valtr and anticlock

Ludwig moves and how to avoid them but no gaurentee cause from cant make proper hit boxes:

Charge: move where he pauses for a second and lunges forward.Dodge to the left to avoid never to the right cause hell kill you with the horse head half of his body

pounce: the easy version to avoid where he jumps and lands on you. when he jumps you will automatically lose lock on of him so you should be able to roll to the left or right to avoid damdge

Ceiling crawl: the bullshit move where he crawls on the ceiling and lands on you.
The best way to avoid i found is to wait a few seconds till you see blood falling from the ceiling and run straight towards the directions hes coming from and always run to the left.
Dont try and jump roll or roll cause those will most likely get you hit and even then running under him like i have didi will still get you killed so its just a matter of luck bullshit

Claw swipes: never try and dash thru cause his baby arm will always hit you if you try so always back away
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>>123395740
I beat him first try
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>>123395740
god damn that anime was terrible
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Is there an effective way to farm chunks outside of chalice dungeons?
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>>123395647
Sorry m8, I didn't know, I've been out of the scene for months.
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How do I dodge a fullscreen undodgeable move
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>>123395740
>can't beat Ludwig
>posts images from a shitty anime

These things always come in pairs, anon.
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>>123395568

Yeah gem it like you would a meme wheel and hold tricked l2 for fun.
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>>123395740
How's life, DSP ?
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Still looking for help with Forgotten Madman, pass is bbg, glyph is glyph is 4j56, BL 56

pls help
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>>123396236
He didn't even more when Ludwig was charging up. He's just shit.

Now he backed into a corner and said it was bullshit because he couldn't move

How is someone this bad
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>>123396236
You should pray to the random-number-generator.
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Want to make a str/arc build for the MLGS (in;b4 MLGS is a quality weapon! How dare you not go for the absolute optimum build!), hows the number on this build look, anything I should consider switched around a bit like taking 5 points out of vit and into arc for that tool damage?
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it may consume time, but on NG can you just re-enter hunter nightmare to farm echoes that drop from killed beasts by Old Hunters? Like the 2 at the start.
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>>123396054
cont:

Dash attack: this is the move he always uses first when you wal thru the fog gate.
Dodge diagonally left or right to avoid

chomp/bite attack: dash forward to the left never to the right because thats where his attacks come from.Never back dash cause he lunges forward while chomping at you at least 4 times so back dashing will get you hit

Phase 2 sword bull shit:

He has two AOE attacks one where he holds his sword downwards to create a ground shock similar to wrath of god then one where he holds his sword to the sky and does that giant tidal wave similar to the sky sword(the one you use on the flying manta ray) in demon souls.

Also, the version where he does the tidal wave also has a small burst AOE that can stun lock you before he swings it so back away from him and then run at him towards his back but beware as the move slightly homes in on you and he will slightly turn towards the direction you are running

All his other attack are easily avoidable if you dodge forward to the left or right while listening for his grunts( the noises he makes before he swings his sword) before he swing his sword.

Dont go crazy on him tho cause you need to be able to have stamina to constantly dodge around to his back to keep him from hitting you and he does have a quick turn around to hit you from behind so be careful and listen for the grunts.


I barely beat his ass and i was on a sliver of health when i delivered the finishing blow.

Also forgot to mention in the first post to summon one of the npc to help you deal with his first phase.
Dont get cocky if you make it to his second phase cause the npc will almost always die and you wil still have to solo him yourself.

Hope this helps anyone

Mfw finally beat ludwig.
Can someone tell e what he says when you speak to him after you beat him?

I did care and killed him when i had the opportunity cause hes a fag as far as im concerned.
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>>123396260
Is it effective all-round or just the L2?
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lewd
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>>123396401
Of course I forgot the pic
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>>123395740
>join League covenant
>summon the two covenant related NPC's
>???
>beat first DLC boss
it aint rocket science nig
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>WOW I pressed dodge and nothing happened
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Is Ludwig the hardest boss so far? Only tried him twice but seems harder than headless bloodletting beast. Really hate these super aggressive type bosses though.
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I DIDN'T PRESS THE ATTACK BUTTON
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>>123396173
>>123396259

Guilty Crown was good you fags
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>Doesn't dodge when I'm pressing dodge
>Attacks when I'm not even pressing the button

!?!?!!
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Can someone help me on Laurence? He keeps giving me the spicy keychain
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>DSP can't even beat Ludwig

is he summoning?
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Anyone have that glyph with the 2 cthulu dudes for getting radial flat arc gems. Want to kos on a higher plane. I've already gone through getting arcane radials from watchers so I don't care if it takes a while, I'm already insane.
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>>123396585
>summoning on your first playthrough

I think Skyrim is more your speed friend
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>>123396568

I'm doing a 117 build with 45 vit, 50 str, 25 skl, 22 arc
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>random number generator
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>>123395740
watch dspgaming right now and you will feel better abut yourself
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>>123396585
You can't summon Henriett and Valtyr at the same time.
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DSP is like NG++ level and he can't even beat Ludwig on NG+. what a fuckin scrub
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The amount of people summoning 2 players for Ludwig is astonishing.
if you're around 40-60 sure but at 85-110?jesus christ
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>dsp is a ludwig sword shitter
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>>123396984
it just makes sense
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>Random Number Generator

Is this faggot serious!?
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>>123396054
>Level:100

Get the fuck out shitter. This is BL60 DLC at most
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Fuck it. I'm done. I'm summoning. Breaking my streak since DaS 1 Gargoyles, which I only did because I wanted to see how it works. Orphan can go suck a dick.
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>invader can trigger pressure plate traps
Best invasion spot in the entire game hands down.
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>>123396984
he is going to grind for levels later isnt he?
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>>123397149
I was so fucking close to beating him before, having a break now
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I'm feeling really good about myself now because I beat Ludwig pretty easily.
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>>123396767
Is that from the DSP stream? Did he say that?

If so, In his defense, that happens to me sometimes. I see an attack coming and I press circle to dodge but the character doesn't do anything. Sometimes I even press triangle to heal and he won't heal. Maybe my controller is fucked?
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>>123396882
But Madara's younger brother AND Valtr you can :^)
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I'm not even good and I beat Ludwig on my first try at like 80 with 30 vit.

What are people that hung up on?
He telegraphs absolutely everything.
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>at 50% health
>gets hit and dies
>Ahhh 100% health Ah-ah-ah-ah-ah!
>random number random number
This is priceless
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I'm gonna create an ayy lmao, but I'm shit with names and faces. Anyone have any cool suggestion?
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>>123396379
THIS!


It really obvious that bloodborne has rng bullshit when it comes to bosses being stunned.

Sometimes id hit ludwig once and it will stun him and other times he would tank my attacks and attack me thru them.

You can actually visceral him in his first phase i found out but its random as fuck and only happened once out of the forty times i fought him and it was the npc valtarr who did it.

At least in demon soul if you managed to hit a boss 5-6 times it would always stun them if i remember correctly so you'd always know when to go in, but in BB its random as fuck and you never expect it
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>Dsp is 117
>Can't beat Ludwig

HOW
CASUAL
SHIT
CAN
ONE
MAN
CHILD
BE
!
?
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>>123397313
I think people are trying to do the DLC right when you can unlock it at like BL30. It doesn't feel made for that low a level though
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>>123397395
Name it Ayla Mao
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If that Vlad the Implier anon is around, can you post your build? Thanks.
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>>123397449
it's NG+
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>>123395849

>swag all over him while helping a host
>not hit once the entire first phase
>hehe now the second phase is cake
>I blink and he smashes me 3 times with the fucking sword killing me instantly

The dlc does not play around.

Anyone got any info on summoning bugs in the dlc? I can help all I want for Ludwig but I can't summon for Laurence. Bell rings, but no bell maiden appears. Then I have to restart the ps4 if I want to co-op again. Happens every time I ring the beckoning bell.
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Am I retarded or how the fuck can I avoid Ludwig's stomp? The startup is really fast and you're usually guaranteed to get combod if you get hit by the first hit, at least on NG+3
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>>123397420
>You can actually visceral him in his first phase i found out but its random as fuck

It's not random DSP. Which fullscreen attack can't you dodge? the moonlight wave?
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>>123397557
And?
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BOSS IS CHEATING
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>>123397313

I beat him at 58 with a +7 weapon and shit gems, he's not that hard
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I can't wait until DSP reaches the Living Failures.
I wonder how we'll react to a boss being made after him.
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So with the new spells is Arcane fun now?
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>>123397752
fucking kek
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>>123397313
>He telegraphs absolutely everything.
If you don't catch his charge early enough, he'll one-shot you because, like everything else in this DLC, his tracking is absurd. The only one of his attacks that killed me, but it's pretty fucking bullshit and did so multiple times. The second form is laughably easy, though.
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>>123397449
Have you seen his stats ? They're all over the place.
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>>123397796
As long as your character is an ayylmao, yes, arcane is finally fun.
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Those fucking fish giants were more difficult for me than any boss in this dlc. Took me more hours than I expected just trying to kill them and I only downed them so far on my skl char. Now that I've got the sword, I'm never going back down there again. Fuck you From for making those shits.
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>>123397796
Yes

More so the lumenwood form than the spells
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>>123380225
Whats a good str weapon to use against Ludwig, fucker keeps raping me.
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>>123397974
axe
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>>123395740
I left some tips in the thread anon and i just sollo'd him so read them and see f they help.

You still have to pay attention in the fight even though im telling you what he does.

>>123396054
>>123396470


>>123397131
EAT A DICK!
im using my new game plus character cause all other characters i have made are at the beginning of the game.

And most people who have beat ludwig are way past new game plus cause some fag even posted a video of him soloing ludwing yesterday and he had at least 60 vitality(full health bar at top of screen)

SECOND OF ALL: Beating him on new game plus is most likely harder than beating him pre new game so stfu.

If anything i made it harder to beat him for myself.
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>>123397974
>Fucker keeps raping me
Well he is a rape horse after all
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FUCK YOU LAURENCE AAAAAAAAAAH FUCK
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>>123397974
Whirligig
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Now that the DLC is out what is the best OST in the game and why is it Ludwig The Holy Blade?
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>Using a bone of Maria in front of her to go anime
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what gems did the guy with MLGS have to hit 1k attack on his blade?
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>>123398048
>And most people who have beat ludwig are way past new game plus


What no they aren't. Basically every anon here beat him solo at BL30-80
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ONE

HUNDRED

PERCENT

DAMAGE
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100 (one hundred) percent
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100% DAMAGE RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR THAT I CAN'T DODGE
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>>123398257
Agreed, that song is what kept me persevering through the anal destruction he was giving me, 10/10 best song in the whole game
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>>123398304
Flat arc up
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RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR
A
N
D
O
M
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>RANDOM
>NUMBER
>GENERATION
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>Giant Landshark thing in the fishing Hamlet starts eating me
>would kill me because I'm at half Health
>Your Note was rated fine
>Full Health again

Thanks whoever rated this Note.
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Random numbers generators, son.
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>those people>>123398257
I still like Gascoigne's Theme and the Bloodborne credits song more.
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>>123398525
no problem
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So I currently do rather shit damage with the MHB. What's a decent spread without having to level up too much. I'm at 25 strength now and 14 arcane.

Additionally why didn't they put any fucking Blood Rocks in the DLC. They introduce so many new weapons but no items to level them up.
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Ludwig is the Bloodborne Ruin Sentinels to DSP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sshsKHNKlJQ
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>From Software fans deny the existence of RNG

So at this point dsp is spouting shit that /v/ would say except he's actually serious about it. Nice.
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>>123398525
I thought it was pretty funny.
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I just noticed that you can still get Bradors Set even if you kill him before he invades you four Times. The Set Pieces are at the Places where he would invade you.
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>>123397796
It was always fun.
It's just even funnier now.
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>>123397395
Name him Wannabe Whateley.
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what's a good level to co-op orphan?
Im level 116 at the moment and can barely find anybody
Am I too high or too low?
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Still need help with the Forgotten Madman, BL 59, pass is bbg

pls respond
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>>123398130

Oh god its really uncanny. Miyazaki does love him that berserk.
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Finished all the DLC bosses finally. Offering help all evening for any area in the game or DLC
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>>123398365
>>123398367
>>123398415
>>123398508
>>123398520
>>123398568
>>123398708

You're all clearly FROM fanboys
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>>123397313
>>123397732

>All these shit talkers making it sound like its a walk in the park just cause they beat it.

I just beat him and you guys are full of shit.

Hi hittbox is ubelevably shitty as there are times where i was standing right under him in his first phase and its like his attacks would whiff right thru me at times i would expect to get hit by him and i would hesitate and backdash only to get hit by a claw swipe.
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Where is the Blood Rock in the DLC?
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>>123398708
RNG is something that will only really fuck up your boss fight if you're speedrunning and you need to get the boss to perform a specific attack in order to kill him faster and save time because of some stupid convoluted tactic.
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Optimal level for DLC co-op?
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>>123397856
not to mention the move where he crawls on the ceiling and falls on you.

sometimes you'll get hit even though you are running right under him even in a straight lin
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>>123398808

Wanna help ng+ orphan at 110?
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>>123398618
There is a blood rock I found one it is around the orphan place
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>>123398906
Lv120 and I find beckoners within 5 minutes.
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>Look at me i'm the camera man hoohoowoohoo

Uh yeah you fuckin retard, you are the cameraman, you literally control the goddamn camera, fat faggot...
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>>123398840

Maybe you should stop trying to cheese it by standing directly underneath him. He has moves he does to counter that, especially in the first form.
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>>123398906
I'm 80 and I'm finding it easy to get summoned.

They keep dying though
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>>123398525

What notes have you guys left? I left "please carry on in my stead, and may the good blood guide your way" on a grave, it's gotten 30 or so fines now. And before the chest in upper cathedral I left a warning about the fall, I sprinted towards that chest and fell right down first time.
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>>123398736
I love all the new areas for pvp. So much fucking fun.
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>>123396880
Holy shit you were right. I can't beat him either but He's doing stupid shit like dodging to the right during his combos and healing during a telegraphed charge attack.

Thanks anon, I feel like I can actually fight and maybe beat Ludwig now.

Actually, Would anybody be willing to watch me stream the Ludwig fight in a few hours and and watch me fight him? I'd like to see from another perspective what exactly I'm doing wrong.
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>>123399021
Oh thank fuck.
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stuck
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Do any enemies drop chunks commonly in the new areas?

Fuck farming for chunks.
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>>123398992

Yeah, what password?
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>>123398840
We're not full of shit, you just ARE shit. I came on /bbg/ expecting to hear bitching about how the most famous hunter and the MLGS were such easy bosses
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>>123399171
Yes, they are all fucking great and you can always host in nightmare by not killing laurence when he becomes a boss.
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Now that i think about it this is the first time DSP plays a From game in NG+. I wouldn't be surprised if he gives up at some point.
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>>123397617
Dude i alreaydy beat him and im not dsp funny guy.

Just cause i beat doesn't mean its always HURR DURR HES EASY GET GOOD FAGGOTS!

Ludwig has alot of bullshit most of which consist of him not having any cooldowns from these big ass one shot attacks.

Their aren't any openings when it comes to fighting ludwig like you would expect.

He is always constantly attacks and moving around.
You figure moves like the charge attack and ceiling slam would leave him idle for at least 10 seconds after he uses them but if you arent close to him after hes done doing the moves you wont get to punish him cause he start attacking and moving 2 seconds afte he uses them
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>Beast Claw Rune in the DLC
>No beast claws
>still have to go do shitty chalice dungeons AGAIN

whelp

>le ayylmao rune in the DLC
>it's the only way to use le funky parasite weapon
>okay that's fine I guess
>upgrade parasite
>it literally requires cursed arcane gems to do absolutely anything

W H E L P


>>123398202
Holy shit this. Just beat him, he's a giant nigger. Had to break Fashion Souls and put on some fire shit, which I hear he doesn't even actually do fire damage -- not sure if that's true though, since I won in that attempt.
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>>123399280

kosm
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>WOW HE'S CHEATING LIKE CRAZY
DONE!
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>>123398878
Fishing hamlet, explore the caves where the boss is.
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>ludwig
>not cheating

nice game bloodtards
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>>123399431
>it literally requires cursed arcane gems to do absolutely anything
How much arcane do you have?
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>>123399473

I'll be by the praying slugs in a sec
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laurence in NG++ can suck my fucking dick
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Despite Ludwig being a giant piece of shit, I honestly think Gehrman was way harder for me to beat.
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>>123399097
>>123399292

Chessing him?

In the second phase you have to stay in his face to finish him off and his first phase consist of keeping a distance while waiting for the right moment to strike which he has ver few cause he always moving all over the place.
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>>123399525
fourty ol' lickaroos worth
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>>123399356
I don't even want to know how long it's going to take him to kill Orphan
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>want to create character named Charles le Sorcier
>people will just end up thinking "le sorcier" is some le ebin reddit meme because they haven't read the book
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>ARC saw
chopping gank squads never felt so good
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>ludwig jumps in the air
>DSP doesn't even try to dodge
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>>123399431
you get beast claws in the dlc. Just kill the npc with it and you get the badge.
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Beast mode is overrated, vanilla claws do the same damage with faster attacks
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>>123399473

Ringing
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DPS definitely is a shitter but you guys did see that right? His attacks literally went through Ludwigs body and did no damage.
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Man, I hate Kos' glorious winged faggot phase.
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FUCK!
THIS!
FUCKING!
SHIT!
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>>123399767
GET SHREKED
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did anyone figure out yet if we can do anything with the NPCs in the cells?
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>So much fun, so much fun to play this piece of shit
>Let's make a 20 $ DLC with a difficulty wall at the start of it
Sick rhymes, DSP.
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>>123399767
fuck those whale guys, they're tough as shit.
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>>123399767
bring a shaman blade brah
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>>123399473

I got whomboed by the lightning and placenta. Let me know if you need help again. He was 2/3 down when I died.
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>>123399767
that anchor is disgusting. I had more problems with them than any of the bosses
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>>123399747
holy shit i saw it. holy shit wowowoow he attacked and it did nothing WOWOWOW
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FUCK.

Orphan does not let up when you have it down to his last bit of health come so close so many times.
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> Mfw slaying plebs.
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I get the feeling this DLC is going to be hit with the nerf bat very soon though.
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Kos is a qt
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Lady Maria? I am a robin.
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TH FOR SNEK
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>>123400431
It's interesting that her body isn't rotting after hundreds of years after death.
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>>123400451
plip plop plip plop
If you wear the enlarged head you can hear the sound of dripping water
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Where I can found fast ARC/Fire/Bolt gems in dlc? Don't have gems for weapon
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>>123400398
Think so? imo it would ruin it. NG+ is supposed to be challenging, that's the whole point. If people are having difficult in NG then they just do not have a leveled up weapon or good gems.
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Can you still get radial fire gems from the second layer of the first dungeon? All they are seeming to drop is fire paper and vials
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>>123400538
Corporeal earthly decomposers probably can't metabolize whatever star-stuff she's made of.
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>>123400538
She's in a nightmare that probably depicts her carcass from a point not long after she was killed.
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>>123380225

>MFW USING MOONLIGHT SWORD

>MFW FIST OF GRATIA WEAPON

>MFW NEW ARE REMINDS ME OF TOWER OF LATRIA FROM DEMON SOULS WHICH WAS MY FAVORITE ARE

Aside from the bullshit boss battles, this dlc is some 10/10 shit.

I cant wait till i get to this orphan fag you guys keep raging about

Also, can someone tell me if the Fist of Gai can be used as a replacement for the gun?!

Can the fist open enemies up for a critical/visceral like the guns do?
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>need the Old Hunter's Bone crutch to fight orphan
feels fucking bad man
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>>123400519
>bloodtinge builds went from gunspamming katanafags to crazy blood mages with frenzy mace
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>>123399693
I just put a bunch of flat arc gems on mine and it came nowhere near 25ish% phys gems. Got 40 Arc and 35 Str on this build
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Is it wrong that i wanna fuck Lady Maria? Isn't she a corpse? is that necrophilia?, is it wrong if i still wanna fuck her?
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>>123400648
I summoned 2 guys for Orphan, all three of us spammed OHB, don't feel too bad anon
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>lumenwood actually glows in the dark
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>>123399592
I'm in the same boat, I can't beat the fucker, even with a summon and valtr we only got him down to his second stage once, and then he fucked me. I just wanted to use my main character for the new dlc, and the game is violating me, someone please help
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>>123400742
Provided she didn't soil herself when she died the first time it's probably not that big a deal.
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>>123400057
>>123399730

thank you very much
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>>123400742
She's not a corpse. She's just capable of fucking with her own blood because she's Annalise's not-daughter.

You're a necrophiliac subconsciously if you really projected that onto her.
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Anyone wanna help with Orphan I'll ring by the gate password is scrub because that's what I am
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So now with all these cool new weapons out is there any hope we'll see an end to the days of 80% of everyone in PvP being the same Ludwig R1 spammer or Evelyn *unzip* shitter?
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>>123400908

No prob. That went smoother than expected. Nice catching Orphan in the snake mouth, that was cool.
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Has anyone figured out why the saw cleaver in the trailer had a lightning effect on it? In the Gascoigne fight.

>>123396505
I hope Piaton got out safe
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do you think Kos just wanted to become a human woman, turn her child into a human child and live among us?
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>>123400956

Yes.

Plenty of variety possible now.
I'm excited for themed invasions again like a beast mode invading Old Yharnam
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>>123400956
already happened, m80. Everyone I've invaded since the DLC came out has been using min/maxed new shit.

The church pick seems to be 10/10. Too bad I still can't fucking find it.
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>have to leave for work in 10 minutes but I can't help but watch DSP fight Ludwig over and over
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>Getting annihilated by Orphan on my quick NG character that didn't go into any of the chalice dungeons
>It's getting to the point where i'm considering saying "fuck it" and unleashing my OG SL140+ character that earned the Yharnam Stone

I get the feeling it'd be overkill, but this fucking boss.
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>>123400538
She's not actually dead. Great Ones are destined to lose their child. The lost child Great One ends up in a nightmare of its own, across planes of reality so far removed from its parent so that the two could never find one another. The Carcass in the Hunter's Nightmare is a creation of a nightmare itself, the vessel that carried and birthed the Orphan into that -our- universe.
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>>123401084
Literally just as bad as Synths
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>>123400648
It is the only fight in the entire game that I've ever needed to use the Bone and I'm fine with it.
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Post huntars
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>Trying to find pizza cutter in DLC
>Horribly underleveled so I'm just running through to get shit
>Holy shit so many things are happening oh my god
>See something with a red light on it and interact with it because fuck I don't know
>I either invited someone to my game to help me or summoned the bell ringing woman
>Whatever just keep running
>Stumble upon something that looks a lot like a boss arena, but that's not what I'm here for
>Turn around, there's a player who came to help me behind me
>Oh shit oh shit oh shit he probably thinks I called him here to help with the boss
>Turn the game off

fuck
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>people complaining about the enemy tracking in DaS2, but somehow loving this game
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>>123401170
It's in the jail area, there's a hunter in one of the cells who attack you with it, kill him and you get it.
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>>123400841
>I'm in the same boat, I can't beat the fucker
>even with a summon and valtr

HOLD ON

I'M SEEING SOMETHING IN THE COSMOS
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>>123401216
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>>123401206
>>123400648
>>123400776

Does Hunter Bone actually add more iframes or something?

I beat him without it, but that could be useful for NG+
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>>123401259
For one thing, unlike Das2 you're not a slow piece of shit even with having your AGL high
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>>123401358
Someone needs to edit pizza on that cutter
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>>123400841
you can summon valtr for laurence? where is he?
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>>123401259
haha b-team is evil haha

miyazaki supervising wasnt enough haha if he doesnt direct it it's shit (except for ds3 haha that's a-team right haha) :) xCD
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>>123401368
As far as I know it only increases the distance you roll/teleport. I don't use it often though so I'm probably not the best source of information on it.
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>>123401358
>the DLC turned this game into furryborne
For fuck's sake. How long before people are ringing bells to yiff while roleplaying their fursonas?
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YO THIS GAME IS LITERALLY BREAKING DSP!
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37 failures now
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>>123401358

I, too, am an ironic beast hunting beast man with the beast grinder upper
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>>123401358
>>123401434
>Delivery for one large pepperoni Pizza, courtesy of Yharnam Pizzeria!
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>>123401529
AYO NIGGA HE GON CRY ON STREAM NIGGA
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>>123401289
It's ng++, that fucker is a mean one
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>>123400673
you need Abyssal gems for S ARC scaling
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>>123401358
This is currently my new favorite setup. Granted I haven't used half of these fucking weapons yet so maybe that'll change.

Fuck, they really went all out for this fucking DLC
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>>123401529
He's gone completely silent. This is a good feeling.
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>>123399273
Yeah, you can find a little bit of everything on most enemies and locations
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>>123401529
he's not even gotten to Orphan yet
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>mfw DSP is on tilt
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>>123401529
>heals right in front of ludwig as he's about to swing
>expects not to die
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>>123401450
Right at the bottom of the stairs, you can't miss it unless it's not there for some reason
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Anyone wanna help a newbie through Yahar'gul?

BL 59, pass is bbg
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>>123401529
I haven't beaten it yet so I'm not gonna watch, does he upload his streams?
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>1300 damage Whirligig R2 on BSB

Damn, son

Also, what weapon would be good for a mid level cultist invader naked except for the Cleric Beast helmet Brador wears?
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>he's going rage quit the stream and play fallout 4
>later will say it's impossible unless he grinds the game out
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>>123401810
Kos parasite or Amygdalan arm
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>>123401216
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How far from the end am i after killing the bloodletter hunter the second time?
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>>123401778

Yep. What lamp?
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>>123401216
The Old hunter carb is the carb that those blood hunters with the beast cutters wear right? Damn I wish there was a version without the cape.
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>>123401601
How come?
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i havent even fucking seen that before oh my fucking god hilarious
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>>123401963
You're close.
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hahahahaha that reaction
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>>123401980

First one.
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DSP HASN'T SPOKEN IN 10 MINUTES. THIS IS FUCKIN AMAZING
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>he just ran head first into the fucking death wave
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So I found out I had sliders for Kakashi-chan all along. Now I'm trying to make Lady Maria, but so far, she looks nothing like her. Fuck.
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>>123401368

It makes your rolls/quicksteps even faster and they go a little farther too.
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Could all you DSPfags please go back to /dsg/? For fucks sakes.
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>>123402121
Who is this semen demon?
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I feel bad for laughing so hard
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>>123402154
i've never even seen that move before.
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Ringing by the fishing hut lamp. Someone please help me kill Orphan. Password is bbg42
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>>123402117

Ringing
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How long until the pulls the "need to grind it out"
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>>123402160
She uses the same face as the doll, if that helps at all.
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>>123401216
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>>123402273
First time I saw it I thought the first blast was the whole attack, and then promptly ate the stagger wave of death.
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>>123402302
Be there in a second.
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WHERES ARCHIBALD
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>>123402215
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I accidentally said I could hear the bell ringing instead of I can't,

Does it fuck something up?
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>>123402160
>>123401216
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YES! YESSS! GET FUCKED!
>reward is a SKL weapon
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
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>>123401216
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Ailing Loran is pushing my shitty in with 18% gems, can't kill shit. Is there a way to get some fucking decent gems in this shithole?
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>>123380225
So I just solod Ludwig on NG+ (harder than some chalice dungeons) and turned the leaver on this clocktower. Making my way down though, and I can't get back up, and have been looking for ages. I have an old hunter key but that led to nowhere apart form a useless war pick. Can any anon point me out in the general way to go?

God tier DLC so far.
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>basically no reason to use the pick over burial blade
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Gonna try and reroll an arcane build to make the most of the return of the MLGS, and I'm missing an offhand weapon, help me out here guys.
Offensive-wise, I'm rolling 30/20/5/30, and with only 5 bloodtinge to work off, my options are limited.
Is the new shield any good? It looks cool.
Otherwise, would I be right in thinking pistol is the best option between the starting guns?
I would play the DLC myself, but I'm outta money until next year.
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Why do you guys have such troubles with Ludwig? He telegraphs his moves like a mofo.
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>tfw found the blood rock

Aww yiss time to final upgrade on pizza slicer
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>>123402654
pick is way better than burial blade, though
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>>123402654
Pick is way faster and allows to play very aggressively.
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>>123402375
Fuck I got greedy. Ringing again.
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>>123402654
I like the picks 1H moveset better
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Where do you get the set Simon wears? It's the only set in the DLC I still haven't gotten.
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>>123402785
Ringing as well.
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Is 800 AR on +10 27%phys LHB and 400 AR on +7 18%Rakuyo good? Mainly worried that my saif and LHB and MLGS are too weak. They do 600, 800 and 800 AR respectively. 50/30 Quality
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I'm 28/28 quality build.

Which DLC weapon do ya'll recommend?
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>>123402805
fishing hamlet
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>>123402309

Fuck, that Amygdala laser gets me every time. Again?
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>>123402749
>>123402758
>>123402793
BB does more damage and has the same moves for the scythe, which you'll probably be using a lot more.

Pick does have nice 1h moves but compared to the scythe they're too situational.
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>>123402654

>doesn't have crappy split damage
>1h moveset is way faster

You miss out on the rally boost though
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Did any of you try the Whirligig Saw with +phys% +arcane gems? Is it good like the Flat Arcane Wheel?
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>you will never be able to tenderly rape fake iosefka with your cosmic tentacles
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>>123402426

Yep. You just locked yourself out of the best gear in the dlc

Better start a new character
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>>123402971
it's WAY, WAY faster. i don't even like the scythe, pick is one of my favorite weapons in the DLC. scythe is a slow hyperarmor weapon
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>>123402302
need one more?
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>>123402686
This thread is mostly newfags who summon on their first play. What do you expect?
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>half of orphans attack come out with a weird delay
>the other half come out instantly

god this fight sucks
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>>123402619
Anyone?
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Could someone help with ng++ Laurence? Ringing my bell at the fog wall, password is bbglf123
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Anybody want to help me with Orphan of Kos?
Sitting in front of the door.

Password: poopnugs
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>>123402913
Try a str scaling gem on saif and let me know what happens, and use blunt gems for lhb
Also how are you so worried about damage when you know you have a quality build with top gems?
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>>123402685

Don't invest in ARC if you're going to use the HMB. It doesn't actually gain much damage with high ARC. You're better off making a quality character if you want to make the most out of that weapon.

As for the Loch Shield, yes, it's pretty good. Very useful against bosses like Logarius and Orphan of Kos.
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>>123402426
it makes no difference. i told him i could hear the bell on 2 characters. he calls you a liar, he still invades you and you still get his armor
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>Rakuyo's L2 changes if you use it after R1 or R2
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>>123380225
So, compared to the rape train that Horsefucker Ludwig was, Living Failurs and Maria were piss easy, especially once you get the parrying windows of the latter down.

That said, while this DLC feels kind of disjointed (which could be excused saying it's a Nightmare and all), all of it seems really fucking solid so far. Now I'll have to make a character for every fucking single weapon too.
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>rakuyo L2
>hyper armor, 360 hitbox, hits twice, moves forward, chains into itself, catches people dashing

Spin to win
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>>123402686
Honestly, I think its my controller, if only because I read the telegraphs, hit dodge, but get hit anyway. Like there is a weird delay on my dodge.
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>>123402785
>>123402898
Sweet, still got the echoes and the insight. Such a fun fight.
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>>123402898
Thank you for your sacrifice.
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What's up with the shadowy thing on top off Kos? Can you interact with it somehow?
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>>123403143
>poopnugs
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Is old hunters going to be the last and only dlc for this game?
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>>123403291
I beat Ludwig and Failures first go, Maria kicked my ass like 5 times though
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>>123403114
The shittiest part is getting elevated by his attacks while dodging through it with i-frames and your attacks randomly ending up as plunging attack leaving you stuck for few good seconds and giving him all the time in the world to unload on you. It's fucking retarded.
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>>123403143
ringing.
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>>123403329
You're welcome friend.

>>123403143
I will ring.
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>>123403339
You kill it and the dlc ends.
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>>123403178
I do 600 AR with top keks on Saif. I am worried because I have seen people who have over 900 AR on here with LHB. How much should AR should I be dealing with top gems and LHB, Saif and Rakyuo with 30 skill?
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Anyone wanna help with BSB in Ailing Loran? BL60 pass bbg
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>>123403392
Probably
but it gave so much in terms of weapons and stuff that its guaranteed to live on longer
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>>123403392
Yes.
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With all that parasite fun i've almost overlooked Saif, but this thing is just magical if used correctly, you can get in, out and punish opponent for every shit roll he does.

I thought it would be another spammy cleaver but it's so much more unique and fun.
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>>123403487
I really hate that fight. I can kill BSB fine everywhere else but that small ass room always fucks me. Especially the grab attack.
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>>123403394
I'll admit it here - It took me like 32 tries to beat Ludwig, but that's probably I came here on NG+ (really want Parasite for my madman character), so that's probably something that has to do with it.

I beat Living Failures on the 'first' try (First time I entered I let them kill me so I don't fuck up the Milkweed questline)

Maria took...about 8 tries maybe? I always have trouble getting down the parry windows for all attacks and end up eating most of her hits.
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So arcane is good now?
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So I just beat Maria who was really easy, which is a shame. I found Living Failures harder than her. Anyways, I got the Celestial Dial. Do I use it in her room or the Grand Cathedral outside the Old Hunters or in The Old Hunters? I'm a little confused.
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>>123403680
It was good before.
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I FUCKING HATE YAHAR'GUL
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How hard is it to get to the "end" of the chalice dungeons? I just want the trophies
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>>123402654
pick is way faster
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>>123403613
I haven't used it much but the lunge on the folded R1 seems REALLY useful in theory. I'll have to give it a shot later.

On another note, I'm glad we finally got an Arcane Tool that can be used regularly.
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>>123403680
>now
It was always good.
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hes back
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>>123403621
Same, I shit my pants when I seen him in that fucking cave in the DLC.
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>>123403776
the one with church pick?
bait him to the jail door leading to the antler guy and hit him from behind it
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>>123402619
>>123403127
Keep exploring research hall.
Moving the stairs granted you access to new areas
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>>123403817
I swear every one of these ends the same way
>enemy runs into the cosmic pose
>instakilled
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>>123403716
walk up to the clock behind where Maria was sitting
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>>123403462
>>123403475
hmmmmmmm
one of yall doesn't seem to be getting through
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>>123403482
At 50/25 my lhb is around that area
The people that have substantially more AR are a higher level than you and/or are using blunt gems

As for saif, my 10/45 character reaches about 570 AR
Again, try a str scaling gem
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What armor has the best physical defense? Executioner's?
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>>123403129
Please respond
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I've done it, across 6 builds I wield every weapon with effective stats at +10 with decent gems. Suck my dick. choke on it.
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Anyone wanna help with the fuckers in the well and the fishermens Hamlet?
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Probably a silly question but you can't summon Valtr for Laurence if you killed him in Forbidden Woods right?
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>>123404079
I think the Yahar'gul set is pretty high
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>>123404121
>finally
Bruh it's almost december
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>>123404034
Fuck, thought I had time to heal and run.
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Should I upgrade normal beast claws to +10 or are the lost or uncanny ones better?
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After 45+ attempts DSP broke
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It's nice to know I'll never be as bad as DSP
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>>123404331
Normal
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>>123401775
i forgot that i had the alien rune equipped

i dont know how you don't notice that but yea
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>>123404393
Ya mean Ludwig?

I mean I took like 30 tries to do him too but boy, the fact that at least I'm better than DSP makes me feel better about myself even if that's an awful thing to say.
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>>123404393

He's on full tilt right now
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I don't think he's gonna make it, guys.
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>>123404285

half the weapons were only available yesterday you dip
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>>123403979
It's just too fabulous.
Won't work on good players at all though, there's enough time to get back and even parry you when explosion goes off.
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>people telling him to grind more
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How do the females look with the beast rune?
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>>123404070
Okay, that makes me feel better. I need to grind for STR scaling gems using that database though. You know how much a fully decked out Rakuyo does?
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>>123396928
What level is he? I felt severely under leveled for Ludwig.
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I still have no idea how to reach that second prisoner, help.
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>>123404306
fuck i almost had him and then died

still ringing for help
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>>123401601
>S scaling
what are you on about
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>>123403795
i actually prefer cursed brew to blacksky. the damage is serious and the delay is awkward
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>>123400431
Ive been trying to find her face for a while....I think ive been looking at her side flabs...
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is there an old hunter/Valt summon sign anywhere in Cainhurst?

trying to take down logarius is early is suffering
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>>123404602
He's 115
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>>123404602
117 and hes on NG+
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45 vit on NG and Orphan can still one shot me.
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>>123404153
anybody? ng++ btw
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>>123404689
Well I haven't gotten that yet, but Blacksky just SEEMS practical.
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>>123401216
>>123401995
there is
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Should you EVER raise endurance?
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>>123404637
fwiw i have marginally less AR with 25/50 STR/ARC, minimal SKL and nourishing gems

you can run arcane ludwig's if you use nourishing gems. you will do less damage, especially with the 1h, but do a lot more damage with the beams. pretty standard tradeoff
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>>123404763
>one shot
No, he can't
You can even jump out of his slam combo in his second phase, too
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>>123404637
fucking christ.
There's a GEM that changes your scaling from fucking A,B,C w/e to S scaling.
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>>123380225
Still farming bloodstone chunks at Yahar'gul.
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>>123404637
>120 BL
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>>123404689
They both have their uses. Brew is literally a great fireball from DS1 except faster which makes it GOAT, blacksky is a fast spammable soul arrow that actually can stun some enemies and has a good tracking.

I'm using both in pvp and they are great.
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I hate arcane build. Why there is no fuckin gems in main game? Who decided it's will be good idea?
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>>123401216
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>>123404906
BL98

Ah, another mememaster. Circlejerkers please go, BL for PVP has been above 100 since demon souls, fuck off.
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Nice to know that the old hunter NPCs are just as useless as I thought they'd be
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>>123404585
Exactly the same as males
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Need backup against the Living Failures. Anyone down for co-op?
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>>123404906
>DLC comes out on a weekday
>people prefer to play the DLC in the little hours they have instead of making a new character right away
wew what a surprise right?
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>>123404306
Thanks a bunch friendo.
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>>123405086
>expecting helpful NPCs in a FROM game

You deserve to fail for trying to summon in the first place
>>
Orphan during the last 30% of his Health in Ng+.. Jesus.
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>>123405127
You're welcome comrade. There were so many close calls in that second phase, great fight.
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>>123405086
Summon Valtr and Madara's younger brother mega pleb
both of those are better than the blonde kirk slut
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>>123404819
If it your first playthru, sure like 15-20. But if its not, leave it at base since runes bump it up anyways
>>
Sorely tempted to pump my str and turn this arcane character into a str/arc one.

Problem being I'd never get any co-op if I did that.
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is orphan weak to lightning?
>>
Anyone want a hand with anything at all DLC-wise?
>>
>>123405109
even on a character that you beat the game with you shouldn't be above 80BL
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>>123405161
b-but Tarkus...
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>>123400431
porn when?
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>>123405343
>>123405104
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>>123405442
I'm there m9, give me 2 mins to login etc
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>>123404430
I'm sad to realize that I'm pretty close.
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>>123404724
>>123404735
I was like 98 and had a lot of trouble on him, but yeah DSP is a faggot.
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>>123405442
what level and password?
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>>123405442
I'm not the guy you're responding to but I'll ring for them. What password?
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>>123380225
Who Boomhammer here? Does this monster of a weapon work with Oil?
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>>123395740
git gud faggot
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How hard is the DLC going to be on a NG++ character? Really don't want to make another character
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>>123397313
Try playing it on a difficulty other than NG. He's hard on NG+ and he's extremely hard on NG+7
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I need help in fishing hamlet ng++
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God, I want the soundtrack to this dlc already.
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>>123405408
Give me a few days once the tests are over.

Also gotta draw that tenteclefingersHunter/Doll porn.
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>>123405557
>>123405527
Living Failures. Password is "locomoco". I'll be waiting at the Research Hall lamppost.
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>>123405360
>game is full of 2-stat weapons
>can barely cap vit and 1 stat at 80
>"so don't level your vit"
so why level at all

people are just making up random numbers. there's no natural cutoff for all builds
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>>123405661
Really, really fucking hard. Most of the Chalices are kinda trivial in comparison.
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>>123405682
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rej1lAt5VRU

This guy has the songs uploaded, best we got so far. This one has sfx for some reason.
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>>123405297
It's not my first, but I'm trying arcane. Depending on my background I can get an extra point in arcane if I take the lowest possible endurance. It's 9 end and 54 arc vs. 12 end and 53 arc.
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Should I finish the story chalice dungeons before starting the DLC? NG level 96, on the first Loran chalice.
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>>123405360
Fuck off, newfag. Bl100-130 has been the meta for longer than you've played the souls series
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How many chunks/rocks have people found in the DLC?
Any enemies that drop them consistent?
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Bloodlevel 120 here, anyone want to help with orphan on Ng+?
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>>123405868
If you have Mensis gems there's no need. You could do it with below Mensis gems as well, though.
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>>123405868
you don't have to, and you get a lot of new weapons in the DLC very quickly, so it might be worth just popping over

but depending on your skill level and build ludwig can be really hard, and gems can help
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>>123405723
Level 80 give you more points than you'll ever need
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>>123405868
It shouldn't matter either way Depth 4-5 Chalices are harder than anything the main game can throw at you. Do DLC before or after. Just don't go at the DLC with +10 FRC Gems Weapons and expect a challenge.
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>mfw DSP for the first time might actually drop a Souls game/dlc
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>>123402579
do pthumeru ihyll, get root chalice from 2nd layer boss, use glyphs to farm for 27% gems
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Wolfman pizza cutter available for co-op any area and dlc. Just finished helping kill Orphan on NG+ and helping someone through Unseen Village.
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can anyone help me with NG orphan

password is noparent
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>>123405934
no enemies but there is a lot of chunks and one rock.
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has the DLC added any new ways to get beast claws?

or am I still gonna have to murder my way through the chalices for em?
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>>123405983
Second time. He didn't manage to finish the DaS2 dlc, either. Babied out in Horsecock Valley and called it quits.
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>>123405934
there's 1 rock and like 20 chunks, maybe a bit less chunks but that's the ballpark

they're all found/consistent drops from imps
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Name a better co-op weapon than Simon's Bowblade

I'll wait
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>>123405718
Ringing now

>>123406020
I'll help after Living Failures
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Are the male bubble-heads voiced by the guy that did Zant's voice from Twilight Princess? That insane screaming is so familiar.
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Do I need to kill Luswig's decapitated head to complete the Harrowed Gunter's quest? I know there's dialogue with him if you do. I already got the HMS by wearing church garb and talking to his head.
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>>123405723
/bbg/s 98 meta isn't a random number, with Bl you don't have to fight Bl 150 shitters.
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>>123406020
i'm at the gate ringing
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>>123406109
Whirligig Saw
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>>123405942
pass?
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>>123406058
i heard that the badge dropped by the beast claw hunter in the first area unlocks the claws

can't confirm, though

>>123406109
bowblade is awesome. i was 100% expecting to be disappointed and instead it's great
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>>123406058
If you coop with someone with beast claws you can buy them. You could always do this.
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DSP on suicide watch
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>>123406014
Could you help me fight Laurence?
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>>123406259
what's so great about it?
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>>123406217
bbg

I can get him to under 30% but he just spams his abilities at that point.
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>>123405983
He absolutely refuses to summon the NPCs.
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>>123406310

WHAT
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>>123406184
it's a carefully-chosen number for people who want as much advantage as possible against kobra, but are too scared to fight shitters from reddit
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>tfw I purposely stop all my builds at 117 so I can invade 98 memers
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>>123406006
Finally beat Ailing Loran, now getting assfucked in defiled since I've only got 30VIT, is there any decent gets even around 20 - 22% around this level? Can't farm 27% until I beat defiled and ihyll
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>>123406345

What pass and lamp?
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>alright I give up
AH-AH-AH-AH-AH
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>>123406369
He's going to summon now, if that doesn't work he'll quit
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Orphan ate all my bullets. How do I cheese him?

Lingering hitboxes are a meme that should have died with DaS2.
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>>123405718
>>123406130
Oh fuck they do more damage than I remember.

Also, why'd you go the long way to the boss fog? It's right after that large church dude I visceraled off the ledge.
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Goddamn, the Piercing Rifle does some pretty good damage already at just 15 BLT. Does it get absurd at higher levels?
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>>123406352
well I'm ringin
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>>123406348
the arrows do real serious adult damage and can backstab

180 base + S scaling + 3 gem slots = vastly more ranged damage than any gun, for 1 bullet, and it can backstab
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What's the point of this place if I can't even hit them?
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>>123406184
*with Bl98 you don't have to fight Bl 150 shitters.

Also you can still do some invasions in Mensis and hunt down PvEers.
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>>123401216

I sure wish I knew how to cap bigger images on my ps4
Now I just feel embarrassed
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>>123406425
>can't invade 80 memers
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is the new rally rune any good?
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>>123406514
>>123406514
Some F/R/C lower loran root glyphs have 22 percent gems with elemental damage iirc

here's a decent list
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true
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>>123406608
Oh really? I had no idea. Here, I'll follow you next time. Ringing again.
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>>123406687
Change the capture settings to PNG
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>>123406739
Ringing again as well.
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>>123406717
If you're a shitter that loves to facetank, it's godlike.
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>accursed brew
I totally missed this, where can you get it from?
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>>123406670
Use the bow
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>>123406558
bbg123 and before the fog wall
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>>123400956
Yes I haven't been playing online as I want to wait till the first of December before I renew my psplus but the game has the variety necessary for long lasting renewed pvp till ds3.

This dlc saved and revived the game big time

>>123400398
As someone who just beat Ludwig on new game plus I hope not.
I just want them to properly balance the shit hitboxes and hit detection and balance out fags like Ludwig with some cooldown from major threatening attacks that can 1 shot you.

I like the challenge but the bullshit is not needed.
I also noticed my npc would glitch they the floor a die a few time while fighting Ludwig. They would have full health and then just disappear then 2 min later it say valtr has died
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>>123406831
Talk to the immortal fishman that's mumbling about byrgenworth while you have the milkwood rune equipped.
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>>123406831

Wear alien rune and talk to mumbling npc at start of Hamlet
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>>123406425
116-117 is the sweet spot. it's the breakpoint for level-based DEF, it has enough points for 2-stat builds without obvious 50/50 shit (you can only get 50/50 by making a big cut elsewhere), and it's not scared of fighting bl150 players
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>>123406858
I'm doing it. Can't hit him.
>>
This expansion is depressing as motherfuck man :(

where do I get the third brain fluid for our friend at the bottom of the research ward?
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>>123406771

thanks senpai
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>>123406937
Feed her her own.
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What can i do with Vermin?
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>still gets keked even with the summon
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>>123406937
Adeline
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>>123400908
So I've been hearing rumors hat the doll appearance was based on Marie.
Is it true
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>>123406640
Thank you so damn much
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>>123406937
I have yet to find a single brain fluid. I totally forgot about that. Fuck me. I have no idea where I would even look.
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>>123395849
very similar thing happened to me. I beat his first phase first try and was feeling boss as fuck. I was thinking yeah can't wait to post a webm for first try victory against this fag on /bbg/. then second phase happened and he rekt me. Felt bad.
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>>123406670
it's just easy access from the other lantern
>>
Ok, normally I don't look for help but after getting as far as I have I can't seem to find anywhere new to go
So I just beat darkbeast paarl, which only led me back to an area I cleared before (honestly that boss feels like a complete waste of time now), and I've already done the chalice dungeon dropped in the church of the good chalice. Any tips on where I should go next?
Everywhere I explore feels like I'm just running into new dead ends and [this door is locked]s.
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>beasts of the nightmare are so persecuted and endlessly hunted they back away in fear without the use of fire
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So um... does a boss eventually die if put out of bounds?
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>>123407183
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>>123407195
There should be a deathbox at the bottom of the world, but there's no guarantee they won;t get caught on some other geometry and sit there stuck forever.
>>
dspgaming has broken and crumbled, /bbg/ wins
>>
What is the lore for orphan of kos?
>>
Would it be doable to get the beasthunter saif early? I think you could, theoretically, sprint to the shortcut that links back to the hunters nightmare lantern, and then from there get the saif. Just seems like the dog/crow/hunter pack near the ladder could be an issue.
>>
So, is it true that you can save the little girl now?
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>>123406197
thanks
>>
>>123407172
you have to kill the boss of cathedral ward

to get to the upper half of cathedral ward you either go through the door to the right of oedeon chapel, or you buy the badge from the messengers

there's an optional side area before the cathedral boss, called hemwick charnel lane, that you should explore
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>>123407162
>easy
>after 2 winter lanters and at the end of the level
Are you for real?
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>>123406730
Sheeeit, are these legit?
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>>123407114
you have to hit those, er, 'heads' that are left on the floor that keep saying 'plip, plop'. there's one on the stairs and another high above next to some ladder iirc.
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>>123407363
you're welcome
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>>123407410
They are, 5pwujscd is a favourite farming spot for a lot of people
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>>123406906
>>123406913
oh shit thanks

completely unrelated but hes completely invincible right? Like he has a health bar yeah but he just keeps getting up
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>>123407397
Thanks m8
Explored the cathedral ward earlier but all I found was the church workshop, looks like I missed something important
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>>123407329
since that pack is the only problem, and you just have to get up a ladder, and the lantern is close by, you can probably pull it off if you try enough times
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>>123407329
I just did it actually straight after Amelia, the only time you'll die is from the hunter having the range to vertically slice you all the way up the ladder. I recommend you kite him away
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>>123407475
Oh okay. Then there's another on a balcony tending to some flower. I guess that's the third then.
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>>123407363
I'll ring as well
>>
Is there a good place to grind physical damage gems in the dlc?
>>
>>123407520
Thanks nigga, time to try some Isz
>>
>Moonlight greatsword is now a quality weapon
Why would they do this? Even a normal holy blade is better for arcane builds, you'd think a sword made of the cosmos itself would do arcane damage even without the beams.
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>>123407410
legit, but the physical damage for those gems is most common. elementals don't drop often from merciless watchers, but it is more common in isz
>>123407407
I didn't mean I think it's easy, I just think the developers intended it as a shorter, easier path. Whether or not they succeeded is debatable
>>
Odd request, but does any anon here has a pic of that blood moon that happened sometime ago?
>>
>>123407537
the church workshop has a lower area that exits into the second half of cathedral ward. it's easy to miss because it involves dropping down a lot
>>
>parry Maria just a little bit late
>stunlocked by the fire trails and can't get the visceral
Fug this is the most annoying thing.
>>
BL80 here, anyone need help with anything?
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Guys has anyone tried talking to the Bandaged Beast Man in forbidden woods with the beast rune on?
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>>123407624
what the fuck? I killed that faggot and didn't get any brain fluid out of him...

OH SHIT
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Scaling coefficients for DLC weapons:

Beasthunter Saif: 0.3/0.7/—/0.55
Beast Cutter: 0.6/0.3/—/0.495
Church Pick: 0.4/0.7/—/0.55
Holy Moonlight Sword: 0.8/0.6/—/1.0
Simon's Bowblade: —/1.1/1.1/—
Rakuyo: —/1.0/—/—
Boom Hammer: 0.9/0.25/—/0.625
Whirligig Saw: 1.1/0.3/—/0.77
Bloodletter: 1.0/—/1.1/—
Amygdalan Arm: 0.9/0.25/—/0.625
Kos Parasite: —/—/—/1.6

Piercing Rifle: —/—/1.0/—
Gatling Gun:—/—/0.4/—
Church Cannon: —/—/0.5/—
Fist of Gratio: 1.0/—/—/—
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So how does this DLC go in with the lore and general story?

Ludwig is well, ludwig, and hes just there along with all the other hunters because "eventually all hunters will go to the hunters nightmare"

Living Failures are just wronged experiments guarding Maria

Maria is the chief of the research hall and Gehrmans apprentice

Orphan of Kos is.... what?

How does the fishing village make sense?
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How much content was added to the base game?

The League, Old Hunter bell/summons, Valtr, the Madaras Twin, the whistle tool, and two new doll lines. Right?
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>Threaded Cane: the essence of hunting with style and formality

>Beast Cutter: GET OUT OF MY FUCKING WAY FUCKING BEASTSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITS raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrghhhh

No wonder those guys became blood addled with weapons like that.
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>>123407009
>>123407028
oh shit, thanks
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jesus fuck he can barely reach the second phase with a summon and now he's crying again
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we did it reddit
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>>123407664
you can get up to 22% droplets i think, from the braindolls in the fishing village
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>>123407834
>Orphan of Kos is.... what?
It's an orphan, of the Great One Kos, meaning that it's Kos' child, which crawled out of her dead body
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>>123408013
Is he NG or NG+?
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>>123407834
Orphan is just what the name suggests I guess. I think it's mainly included because we had nothing to go on for Kos outside of micolash ranting and it's just like a nod to confirm, Kos was a great one like all the others, he definitely wasn't formless like oedon or anything. He's dead now. He was involved in granting eyes to rom.
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I REALLY wish they didn't put those random one or two trees in Kos' boss arena.
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>>123408093
>He
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>>123407771
>>123407624
the third you get from slapping her slime form once
but just slap once, not twice or more since it can kill her
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I hate him so much.
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>>123407880
Basically another full tombstone.
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>>123408084
NG+
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How in the FUCK do I fight Laurence no leg form.
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>>123408083
hurrrrr
>>123408093
Yeah thats it I guess

I mean, AOTA didn't have too much to do with the base game either.
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>>123407772
fucking awesome, thanks

nothing too surprising except Kos Parasite

i've been trying to find damage exploits but no luck yet
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>Invading the Coast
>force players to solo the Orphan or die at my hand
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>>123408256
glue yourself to his side until he starts moving around a lot, but close enough to the front that you don't get caught in the lava hitbox
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Does anyone wanna carry my newb ass through Old Town on my new character? I'm not finding anyone and I don't wanna deal with this place alone.
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>>123408245
No wonder, it a;so doesn't help that he can't dodge or read attacks for shit.
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>>123406642
It's shit. Good luck to hit anyone
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Does anybody else feel like much of the DLC is cut content from the original game? Maybe they cut it out on purpose to release for DLC shekels later or maybe they just didn't have enough time to make it properly.

Basically all the area you access above grand cathedral with the elevator and beyond feels like it was supposed to be in the original game. It feels like they then made that 'tacked on' quasi-reskin of the yharnam area to make it fit with the rest of the game as DLC content. It's fucking phenomenal stuff (honestly, Miyazaki's artistry really blows me the fuck away) but it really feels like it was supposed to be included with the original game in the first place.
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>Laurence is literally just a flaming Cleric Beast they said

Fuck you guys, he has a whole bunch of new moves and becomes a fire slug halfway through, spreading lava everywhere
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>>123408110
You can fight him in the water.

Watch out for invisible walls, though if you want to get too much distance
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>>123408460
Yeah the DLC really fits seamlessly into the base game, much more so than Artorias of the Abyss did and I think that was actually confirmed as cut content. Miyazaki really is great.
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>>123408460
I honestly think Hunter nightmare was cut content. Everything else "feels" original.
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>>123407834
> hes just there along with all the other hunters because "eventually all hunters will go to the hunters nightmare"

No, according to Simon they're drawn there because it is the center of any Hunter's "guilt"/curse. Which makes a whole lot more sense, since "ONLY BLOOD CRAZED HUNTERS" from the hunter's eye or all hunters going in general are both incredibly flawed considering some of the charactes in the DLC.

>Living Failures are just wronged experiments guarding Maria
Up to interpretation. I think they are experiments along Iosefka's line of experimentation, and Maria doesn't have the heart to kill any of them.

>Maria is the chief of the research hall and Gehrmans apprentice
Some people say she's knowingly guarding the secret or is charged with doing so, a likely scenario considering the Doll's new dialogue. I don't think she was chief of the research hall at all.

>Orphan of Kos is.... what?
Kos's apparent child (even though Great Ones can't have children?) who is orphaned when she dies (supposedly Byrgenworth's doing if the raving lunatic on the way to the village is telling any truths). He is also, apparently, the source of the nightmare.
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Does anyone have a Isz Root chalice gylph with Bath Messengers in it?
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Finally beat those two fuckers with anchors down the well and got Maria's weapon.
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>>123408473
Stop listening to /v/ermins
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>>123408204
what
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>>123408473
>paste cleric beast
>give him watchdog texture
>add fire shockwaves to EVERY ATTACK
>remove tripping from base cleric beast, add it in for DLC
>add second form where he has 3 (three) moves
>name it after the most important character in the entire game

The DLC was great, but you're fucking shilling.
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>>123408460
it's too attractive of a marketing scheme to not if you think you can get away with it which is what they've done.
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>That stern "please, stop!" when you hit the door
I want real Iosefka to dominate me
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>>123395740
If you're having that much trouble, just ring-a-ding-ding baby. What NG are you playing on?
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>>123408423
not every weapon is a competitive PvP weapon

honestly From PvP is not competitive enough to deserve this kind of scrutiny

it's like Smash 4 or some shit
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>tfw I'm actually rooting for DSP now because I want to see him get fucked by Orphan of Kos
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>>123407834
It explains why everything that happened in the game.

The Fishing Hamlet is where first contact with great ones happened; the dead body of Kos washed up on shore. The parasites in her body gave the townspeople mutations. Byrgenwerth found the town and that started their experiments. They killed the townspeople and drilled holes in them to get the eyes in their brain. Because of this the Orphan of Kos cursed Byrgenwerth with Vermin in the blood which is the cause of the plague. This was the event that started the whole chain of problems which lead to the beginning of the game.

Maria killed herself to guard the secrets of what happened.
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>>123408761
>shilling
You should probably look up that word in the dictionary.
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>>123408639
Good going, friend
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>>123408761

How am I shilling as I bitch about being misled about a boss?

Marketing boogeymen meme?
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>tfw I just realized what blood ministration is referring to

This entire time I kept thing of it as "administrating blood". I just realize that in this context it means to bless or sanctify. Now it makes sense to me why its seen as an art only available at Yharnam
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>>123408460
>>123408787
Sony literally published Bloodborne. Of course it's fucking cut content. Just be glad it was Sony and not Bandai, Bandai didn't even give us the important cut content in DS2
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>>123408761
not him, but yeah. NewCleric sucked ass. Laurence is too important to be a reskin imo.
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>>123408761
shilling is a meme
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megamule when?
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>>123396193
The blue eyed werewolves in Upper Cathedral Ward.
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>>123409012
elaborate
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>>123408596
>even though Great Ones can't have children?
Great Ones can have children, they're just destined to die

the dialogue after you kill Orphan implies this is part of their natural life cycle
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>>123407834
The corpse of Kos, a Great One, washed up on the shores of a fishing village because the sea is a medium that separates planes of existence. It was pregnant, and it's unborn child survived in its dead womb.

The villagers, worshiping the body of a dead god that just appeared at their village, gradually transformed into fish-like monsters as a result of the otherwordly influence of the whole thing. Authorities at Yharnam and Byrgenworth find out and investigate, conducting horrible human experiments on both the villagers and their own captive test subjects in order to better understand the great ones, the kin and the cosmos itself.

In the nightmare, the fishing village resides above Yharnam itself, with the city visible beneath the sea, and only accessible through the astral clocktower when the clock is at a certain configuration. You literally walk through a space in the clock and emerge on another plane of reality, where the fishing village lies over Yharnam.

Whether the fishing village ascended to a higher plane because of the influence of Kos and its child or it's only like that in the nightmare because it's a nightmare is up to interpretation.

Basically the horrible things that Byrgenworth and the church did at the fishing hamlet are their greatest secret, and the heart of the nightmare is the grieving orphan of a dead god hosted by the mind of a guilt-wracked hunter who was implicated in the Nanking of the fishing hamlet.
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>>123408943
Be careful anon, vaati is watching.
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>>123408460
I don't think so. They don't even have enough time to polish original game. Maybe they had only concepts of some locations
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don't respond to vermin
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DSP COULDN'T BE LUDWIG, HE RAGEQUIT
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>>123404839
>fwiw i have marginally less AR with 25/50 STR/ARC, minimal SKL and nourishing gems

That's exactly my build. Thanks for the tips Anon, I will definitely farm Nourishing gems for it after I do the DLC on that character.
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Apparently I'm a super hardcore Souls player because I beat Ludwig

Neat
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>>123408954
>>123408982
>>123409018
I had no idea /bbg/ was so triggered by the word shilling

I will have to use it my self for guaranteed (you)s

>>123409149
http://illusorywall.tumblr.com/post/100174538929/dark-souls-2-unused-dialog-from-japanese-text

>>123409178
What was the dialogue again? AND WHO WAS FUCKING NARRATING IT
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He's given up.
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>>123407880
just the patch ignore>>123408204
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>>123408916
Me too. But after 60 attempts he has lost it
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Jesus Christ that was some hard DLC. Thank fuck i'm back to having 100% trophies.

I can see why Kos has a 0.4% trophy clear rate.

Maria was by far the best boss in the entire series. Kos and Living Failures were disappointments. Only thing I didn't figure out on my own was the Milkwood quest (and Brew spell) and the Church Cannon.
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>>123409012
>Just be glad it was Sony and not Bandai, Bandai didn't even give us the important cut content in DS2
dark souls 2's original base game content was way bigger than bloodborne's though (not including shitty chalice dungeons). I hate dark souls 2 but in terms of content the original das2 without dlc is bigger than bloodborne + toh.
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How the hell do I get the item on the pic?

I tried restarting the stairs mechanism but that didn't work, tried jumping down the elevator shaft killing myself and searched for secred can't find anything
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He actually gave up.
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>>123408943
>Because of this the Orphan of Kos cursed Byrgenwerth with Vermin in the blood which is the cause of the plague
The Vermin and and the plague were around from the very beginning, they were in the old blood all the way from when Byrgenwerth discovered it back in the chalice dungeon. That predates first-contact by a longshot.
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Can anyone tell me where the Bloodrock is in the DLC? I got to Orphan of Kos, and I can't find it. I activated the elevator btw, so if it's by the elevator, directions will help.
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>>123409115
Did they up the drop rate for them? I've been getting a chunk every 3-4 runs with only one eye rune equipped.
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Lumenwood Garden isn't as pretty when the nightmare is over and the sky changes.
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>dashboards
>minecraft
>cod
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>>123409393
hey anon, how hard is it to get to Yharnam in the chalices?
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>>123408943
>Maria killed herself to guard the secrets of what happened.

holy shit that fucking sounds ridiculously accurate, and I felt the same about the fishing village and Kos being first contact
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>>123409283
>What was the dialogue again? AND WHO WAS FUCKING NARRATING IT
if you want to have a conversation don't shitpost in the same breath
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>>123409402
"searched for secret passages", jesus christ
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Beast Cutter or Whirligig Saw

This may be the toughest decision of 2015
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How awesome was the Maria fight man?

My new favourite souls fight of all time. It even put gascoigne's to shame. It wasn't particularly hard but it was fucking FUN.
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Throwing in the towel at Ludwig, pfft
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This is very very fun. Big M's done it again
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>>123409402
there's a door you can jump into from one of the elevators
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>there are people who give up rather than just taking beast blood pellets
Beast blood is the way. Beast blood is love.
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>>123409414
ride the elevator down and go down the tunnel with the singing brains
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Man, fuck everyone, I enjoyed the Ludwig and Living Failures bosses. Great music and visuals, and super fun to coop.
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>>123409401
Without DLC from ds2 or chalices in BB they're actually about the same.
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Does the Beast Cutter do serrated damage in both forms?
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>>123409408
the plague of beasts didn't begin until Brygenwerth fucked with the fishermen. The Parasites were in Kos' blood.
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eheh
what a baby
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Am I the only one who found Living Failures the hardest boss in the DLC? They made me panic on several occasions, found Ludwig a ltitle difficult, died to him about 5 or 6 times, beat Laurence my 2nd try, Maria my 3rd, and Orphan I wanna say my 7th? But Living Failures kicked my shit in
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Looks like fish people was peaceful. Not like those who worshiped Dagon.
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>>123409748
>Kos' blood
The fishing villagers literally refer to the kin as 'the bloodless ones'. We also get a Kos parasite and it's nothing like the vermin.
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>>123409626
I fucking loved it too man
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>>123409486
She threw out her weapon in disgust and drank poison. Theres a dropped cup by her chair.
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>>123409626
>she has no hp
>she is easily parryable
>she is staggered by anything and everything
>she has no phase that changes any of this, unlike Gehrman

yeah haha awesome fight
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>>123409734
you're fucking delusional
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>>123409795
Maria's the hardest for me. I killed Failures and Ludwig first try. Haven't been to the other yet
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If you open Yammy's cell door you can summon him for Failures I think
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>>123409402
you missed a door
in the room with the 3 wheelchair men
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>>123380225
>Tfw just beat most of the main game proper on a new character so I can play the DLC
Still a good game, but I wish the dlc was more tuned for right around Rom instead of near the end of the game so I could actually use the new weapons for a while instead of near post-game stuff.

Onward to rage at this Ludwig everyone keeps talking about tomorrow.
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he actually gave up on fucking ludwig
i dont know what i was expecting
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>>123409581
Saw

That shit tears through people with fairly shitty gems on it.
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>>123409905
Definitely the easiest boss, at least for me.
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What does the lever before Orphan do?
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>DSP actually gave up
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>>123395740
> GOD DAMN I'VE PROBABLY SPENT A GOOD 24 HOURS TOTAL TRYING TO KILL THIS FUCKING FAGGOT BUT I KEEP DYING AT THE END OF HIS SECOND PHASE
What the hell man
if you managed to live through that bullshit charge on the first phase, segond phase should be easy
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>>123409847
The people of innsmouth never worshiped dagon. the tales are unrelated.
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Can anyone help me with the stupid sharkbros on my skill character? I just want the damn Rakuyo but I don't have shaman blades.
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What was Gehrman manic over?

I'd assume it's Maria, but then it says in the same item description that she admired him, so I'm a bit confused. I don't think the friendzone would be THAT forced as a part of a Souls story if that's what "admire" means over romantic involvement, but maybe I'm wrong.
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>>123410007
Activates the elevator if it's raised when you're at the bottom
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>>123409882
my nigga
>dat fucking music
holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
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>>123409748
>the plague of beasts didn't begin until Brygenwerth fucked with the fishermen.
Maria is a hunter and apprentice of Gehrman, Gehrman is also hunter.
Hunters hunt beasts, so if there were hunters, there must've been beasts.
The beast plague predates first contact
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>>123409581
Why not both? There's two rocks in the game now.
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>dsp quit
>at ludwig
>despite how he can get to his second form pretty reliably
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>>123409986
You get like 4-5 new weapons before Ludwig, that's quite a bit. And if you can beat him you get even more
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>>123410094
How do we even talk to Gehrman? I've heard some people can make it to the gate with the flowers before the ending, but I've never figured out how.
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lel phil
>SEE ITS NOT EVEN A RAGE QUIT HURRR
>IM TOTALLY NOT RAGEQUITTING BECAUSE I SAY SO
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>>123409984
>>123409683
oh what the fuck
how did I miss that

thanks friends
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>>123410094
The doll was based off Maria, she wasn't aware he was obsessed with her to this point.
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I want to FUCK Lady Maria!
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>>123408460
I think everything before Ludwig (and Ludwig himself) was tacked on, but everything from Research Hall onwards was likely meant to be in the real world, not the hunter's nightmare. Seems like after killing Mergo you should have been granted the Eye that'd let you take the life up to Research Hall, do all of that area and both Failure and Maria, then have the Fishing Hut be the true last area of the game.

It'd explain why the Moon Presence feels so tacked on. Maybe going down to where the Church cannon is could have led to the cells and Ludwig.
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>>123410015
>>123409991
wat? is it live now? link?
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Is it just one guy talking about DSP throughout the entirety of the thread?
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>>123409247
>>123409279
>>123409284
>>123409403
>>123409643
>>123409991
>>123410015
>>123410167
That's quite hypocritical, considering how I see so many people in /bbg/ summon other players for him.
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>>123410167
He only got to the second form a couple times and outside of 1 or 2 lucky attempts, never survived in the second form for more than a few seconds. He spent most of the stream being crushed over and over by the first form and raging. He only got worse with time, and by the end he couldn't even make it to the second phase with a summon.
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In dire need of help friendos
I got to the top of the research hall, tirned the contraption that raises all of the stairs and then fell off like a fucking retard without getting 2nd brain fluid. Can you get back up there or lower the stairs again. I need that kin mode
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>>123410167
>gets to second form
>almost kills it
>"i got it I just need to stay close"
>gets to second multiple times
>keeps his distance
>dies
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>>123410101
Oh. Damn, this game scared me of doing anything.
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>>123408639
Dude fuck those guys
ragequited after 1 hour getting gang raped by those cunts
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>>123410169
Right, its more a comment aimed at the latter 5 and how the dlc will chew up a level 30ish character. Sure I ran through to get the Boomhammer(why no boomhammer love here, this thing is amazing) but I don't like having to bob and weave past enemies that near one-shot at low levels just to get some of the cool new weapons.
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so what are you supposed to do to laurence in phase 2, you cant get behind him because he leaks lava and all he does is pound in front of him with huge aoe and lingering hitboxes
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>>123410338
didn't knew dsp went to bbg
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>>123410094
i think it's more like she died before he could confess his feelings

every interaction with Gehrman suggests he's the kind of guy who is outwardly collected but inwardly having a total meltdown
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So what exactly is the lore behind the DLC anyway, mainly Kos being dead, not-Innsmouth, origin of our sins shit?
I'm not very good at deciphering lore
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Anyone else disappointed that Laurence, probably the most important character in Bloodborne lore, is just a Cleric Beast reskin? I mean, yeah he's on fire, and he loses his legs and spits lava but still...
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>>123410269
yes, he's been live and trying ludwig for 3 hours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-5LqnJw2ao
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>>123408761
you literally just described how its not a reskin. Also they cant just "give him watchdog texture"
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>playing bloodborne instead of fallout 4
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>>123410461
nigga look above the thread, literally two anons summarized it.
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>>123406403
Senpai, this general are full of people who beg for summons even on TOH. So of course they frown even at bl120, which is a souls meta. It is the essence of circlejerking
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>DSP going on a rant about Ludwig saying "IT'S HARDER THAN EBRIETAS"
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>>123408943
Which came first, Fishing Village/Kos or Chalice Dungeons/Ebrietas
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>>123410190
He's in the garden if you follow the path up the chalice gravestones to the left in the Hunter's Dream, most of the time. You don't talk to him in the boss fight arena ever before the end of the game.

>>123410229
I really doubt the mania being referred to is an obsession with Maria, but the Doll set itself says it was made out of mania. I just would rather believe he was obsessed with her after death, rather than assume based on vague storytelling that Gehrman was a giant beta kek who was the type of turbofag to lust after his own students while he was teaching them
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>>123410491
Does he just use the cleric beast theme?
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Maybe Oedon is formless because his true form is the Vermin. He isn't a single great one, but rather an entire species of parasites that live in blood and are normally too small to see --thus 'formless' according to humans that can't normally detect them.
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>>123409795
>yfw they did the space invasion attack for the first time and you saw the cosmic stars and shit

anyway no those guys weren't anywhere near ludwig. took me maybe 4 tries and felt I should have gotten them sooner but just was playing brashly
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>>123410094
gehrman was a total beta who was obsessed with dolls, his mania was doll making
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>>123410401
Don't lock on.

Stay behind them.

When the second one shows up, use a shaman bone blade to make them fight each other.

Defeat the survivor by staying behind him without locking on.

They really aren't that bad, brother.
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>>123410602
he has a heavily remixed cleric beast theme that desu is one of the better tracks on the OST
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>>123410540
Come now, anon.

>>123410491
Read the thread. Lots of people are.

>>123410452
>>123410580
Much more inclined to believe this stuff.
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>tfw Bloodborne finally got me to buy a Lovecraft anthology after years of telling myself I need to read some of his shit
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>they made the DLC for the incredible hardcore bloodborne fans
Is this fucking idiot for real
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>>123409481
Hope you have 50 VIT and everything geared for physical/fire resistance otherwise you'll die in one hit by Flame Doggy.
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>>123410580
We don't know what happened, but he clearly loved her and was obsessed to the point where he made a doll that looks like her and probably fucked it too.
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>>123410648
On this track as well, it just occurred to me how much the Moon Presence resembles a centipede.
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>>123409795

I thought they were very easy. I absolutely love that meteor attack, though. It's so cool.
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>>123409481
Can you kill Amyadala without being hit?
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How do you get climb up the labber in Hunter's Nightmare on the way to getting the Saw on a level 25ish character? I can easily parry the hunter by the ladder to death but there's a bunch of crows and a dog around him.
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>>123410701
>his mania was doll making
He only made one doll.
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>>123410701
>gehrman was the original weeaboo
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>get Ludwig to a quarter hp
>die

I just need to learn his moveset, it has awkward delays. Also, didn't realize it was possible to visceral him.
>>
>>123409795
Yes
they were retarded and never did enough damage to one-shot me at 23 vit and around 280 phys defense
the huge tree in the middle also blocks the meteor storm, but I got hit with the explosion from one when I hugged the tree too hard and that didn't one shot me either
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>>123406917
Is this confirmed cause I stopped leveling my main at lvl 100 and I could pump in a bit more stats
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>Blood starved beast is hard
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>>123410784
>quitting the *snooooorts* DLC entirely because he wants to play other games and because it's apparently too hard
>refers to him playing video games as "da bidness"
>>
>It's not a ragequit

Sure
>>
>it's not a ragequit, it's just bad for business because it's too hardcore!
Is this nigga serious?
>>
>>123409481
How do you feel about chalice dungeons where you have to fight enemies that will one-shot you at 50 Vit?

How do you feel about bosses that take ten years to defeat due to HP sponge bullshit?

How do you feel about a flame dog being the hardest thing in the game?

If you are fine with these, enjoy. I platinumed this game, and lord knows I never want to do anything like it again.
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>>123410492
>its not a rage quit
>raging beyond all hell
top fucking kek

what bl was he anyway? why didnt he just summon?
>>
What weapons/builds do people generally use for their BL43 twinks?
>>
any tips on dealing with orphan of kos? this fucker might be the hardest boss in any of the souls/bloodborne game(s)
>>
who here likes being a hardcore gamer
>>
>>123409481
>>123410850
>>123410787
Basically this. It's not super hard aside from defiled, I'd say there were maybe 4 bosses aside from those out of all the chalice dungeons on the way that were a bit of a stump.
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>>123410964
Of course its his business, you fucking morons keep giving him views.
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>>123410953
>tfw I literally kited him to death with oil pots and the flamethrower
>>
Just noticed how bloodshot his eyes were. Did he seriously cry off-camera?
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>>123410885
that we see
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>>123410420
>>123410420
>>123410420
pls respond, this shithead is a bitch on NG++
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>>123410750
>shaman bone blade to make them fight each other.
Why didn't I think of this?
You are my hero man
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>>123410341
Does anyone know?
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>Get DLC
>See my old character

>40VIT
>20 END
>20 STR
>20 SKL
>18 BT
>16 ARC

What the hell do I do with this? I'm in the middle of getting a platinum and I just can't be bothered to make a new character.
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>>123410138
Still only 2? What the fuck. I had hoped the dlc would add some enemies that you could farm rocks and chunks off of at a decent clip.
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>>123410492
>its over
how sad I would have loved to have seen more of this
>>
>the true Doll is in the Abandoned Workshop
>along with Maria's grave, confirmed by the Old Hunter's Bone
>and the Small Ornament, which we now know was intended for Maria, but Gehrman never got to give it to her

>and the Umbilical Cord that Gehrman used to summon the Moon Presence and enter the Hunter's Dream, in which a farcical version of Maria is still alive and is in love with him

OH SHIT
OH FUCKING SHIT
IT WAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF US ALL ALONG
>>
>>123411078
So you're inferring an obsession based on the conjecture that he may have made other dolls that we have no evidence of existing?
>>
>>123411037
Why bl43
>>
These Well Bros need a fucking boss fog, goddamn
>>
>>123411148

You can get them as a reward in Chalice Dungeons.
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>>123411037

Chikage is very popular. Basically, any build that uses guns so you can punish heals and stuff.
>>
>>123411168
The deepest and hypest lore
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>>123411174
his obsession is obvious in the descriptions
the work was super intricate and detailed
you can't just do that if you don't make dolls
>>
>>123411168
Are we sure Gerhman never gave it to her? The fact that it makes the doll cry probably means the original received it. It probably just wasn't buried with her corpse.
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>>123411029
115 NG+
He did summon his last 5-10 attempts or so and barely got to second phase before he died
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>>123411168
IT WAS RIGHT THE FUCK IN FRONT OF ME ALL ALONG. THE FUCK.

HOW DID I NOT FIGURE THIS OUT BEFORE THE DLC. IT WAS FUCKING OBVIOUS
>>
OFFICIAL TOP 8 BEST BOSS FIGHTS IN BLOODBRO

1. Gehrman
2. Pthumerian Elder
3. Orphan
4. Father Gascan
5. Yharnam
6. Ludwig
7. Amygdala
8. Pthumerian Descendant
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>Using the claws with the rune
Neat, this moveset is pretty fucking great. Too bad I'm primarily SKL.

I'm currently at 25/50/10/15. Looking to top out at 40 vit and 20 end, with this character sitting at BL120. I don't know if it would even be worth bumping up BLT or ARC at this point. Only thing I wish this DLC had was a similar rune or transformation for SKL users.
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>>123411227
Chalice dungeons are shiiiiiiiit

SHIIIIIIIIIIIT

Never want to go back to those after getting my plat. Unless there are some out there that have that shit in chests that can be refarmed over and over I ain't interested.
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>>123411029
>what bl was he anyway
like 200 something

>>123411050
But I use adblock as do most people here when they watch DSP so how can it be considered a business when he's not getting money from my views or from the views of other people on 4chan.

>>123411182
Because BL43 allows you to be summoned in literally every area of the game
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>>123411168
Whose umbilical cord is it?
That's the only one in the game that doesn't have an origin accounted for.
>>
>>123411168
The ONLY thing I want clarified on that.

Why can't he leave. Because isn't there dialogue or w/e that suggests he's been in there so long and he's so depressed that he even resents the doll now.
>>
>>123411182
So you can invade bl30's.

Also can everyone just shut the fuck up about DSP, who even cares?
>>
Last I checked he quit on defiled watchdog, or did he make it through?
>>
>>123411310
>115 NG+
what the fuck? that would rape anyone. havent tried ludwig NG+ yet but damn son. why would he go straight to NG+ to get his shit slapped?
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>>123411360

You could try putting Sharp gems on the Beast Claws. Scaling gems got buffed like crazy so it might just work.
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>>123411338
1.Named hunters
2.Orphan
3.Ludwig

Rest are still interesting, but those stand head and shoulders above.
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>>123411168
So Gehrman just made the hunters dream to bring back Maria.

Why do we get stuck in it?

Why does the doll have the power to level us up?

>>123411401
He's the Host of the dream, and the surrogate of the moon presence. Either it won't let him leave, or hosts cannot leave their nightmares unless they die.
>>
>>123411383
my best guess is orphan of kos, given the circumstances

>>123411401
the moon presence views him as its surrogate child
>>
>>123411448
you cant exactly choose to do the DLC on NG if you are already in NG+
>>
>>123411401

Isn't he the anchor for the Hunter's Dream?

I assumed you took his place if you killed him.
>>
>>123411504
Atmosphere and music still makes Gehrman fight the GOAT fight of Bloodborne and it was pretty hard until everyone learned to parry his shit up
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>>123411163
it was the regular DSP piss
"I press the button but it didn't work"
"I dodged but it didn't work"
"random number generator move"
"fullscreen undodgeable attack"
"camera is broken, A A A A A A look I'm the camera man"
"I can't move"
"stuck in the wall"
"game wouldn't let me roll"
"I can't heal"
"random number generator"
"look look look I'm pressing the button (while dead)"
"random number generator attacks that are undodgeable"
"I didn't want to do that but it did it anyway"
" A A A A A A A A A random number generator"
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>>123411545
>what is NG
>>
>>123411523
>Why do we get stuck in it?
all hunters (or rather, all the descendants of Bergenwyrth) are cursed to eventually be drawn into the nightmare world
>>
>>123411535
>my best guess is orphan of kos, given the circumstances
Wouldn't make sense considered that the orphan's umbilical cord is attached to the placenta it's swing around in the fight.
>>
>>123411040
aim for the second phase and try to get there without using much vials
>>
>>123407685
To spite you arcane fags looool enjoy losing to my 900AR getsuga tenshou, kid...
>>
>>123411338
>1: Lady Maria
>2: Gherman
>3: Ludwig
>4: Father Gascoigne
>5: Logarius
>6: Ebrietas
>7: Amelia
>8: Yharnam
>>
>>123411579
That's why he is lumped in with the named Hunters. Gehrman, Maria, and even Gascoigne are all fantastic fights that really show how bloodborne shines.

Gascoigne never gets enough praise. The arena you fight him in is perfect. At first the gravestones are your greatest ally, blocking shots. Then when he goes beast mode they are your biggest enemy. He's the true introduction to bloodborne.

Granted he is easy as hell now, but he really made an impression on me when I first fought him.
>>
>>123411040
I've found that dodging into him (trying to get behind him) works better than dodging to the side or backwards. Managed to get him down to around 25% a few times, but his second phase is insane.
>>
>>123411740
that's in a nightmare, though. you go into the hunter's nightmare, and then you go through the sealed clock, which clearly symbolizes the past

just like the real Doll is in the Abandoned Workshop, the umbilical cord in the AW could be the real umbilical cord
>>
>>123411834

new thread

>>123411834

new thread

>>123411834
>>
I beat orphan on NG+7, but holy shit I forgot about Laurence. He's such a damn bitch. I can get him down but when he goes no leg, I get rekt.
>>
Can anyone please help me with the sharkbros? I'm level 66 I just want the Rakuyo on my skill character if anyone can help. I don't have any shaman bones because my character didn't progress that far, made a new on for the DLC.
>>
>>123411960
I'll come, I'm gonna shaman them though
>>
I keep seeing the headpiece with the antlers everywhere, what is it and where can I get it?
>>
>>123411523
>Why do we get stuck in it?
You're not stuck it in, you just have to die in the dream to wake up. Gehrman is only trapped in there because it's his dream. He's the host of the Moon Presence, so he has to remain there so that the dream itself can remain. The dream is supposed to be an asset for hunters, a place of refuge and an imperishable workshop where they can take respite and properly equip themselves while on the hunt. It's not a prison but a tool to help hunters, and Gehrman takes it upon himself as the first hunter.
>>
>>123411960

What lamp and pass?
>>
>>123411917
This would, of course, imply that the real Orphan of Kos was hunted and killed by Gehrman long, long ago.
>>
>>123412064
>>123412087
Fishing Hamlet lamp, pass is bbg567
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>>123411094
Stick to his side and iframe through his attacks.
>>
>>123412073
i don't think you have to die since clearly you can die against Gehrman and respawn. i think you have to accept death
>>
>>123412152
rung
>>
>>123412223
The searching for a small bell message only plays once then never appears, the bell icon is still in my status bar though. Hmm, is it something about this area?
>>
>>123412182
I think that's just a necessity, since giving you only 1 life against the final boss and forcing you into NG+ if you fail would've been abhorrently bad game design.
>>
>>123412123
OH SHIT
>>
>>123412123
>implying Orphan of Kos isn't Nightmare Gehrman
>>
>>123411306
These games aren't exactly known for happy endings
>>
>>123412307

Exit game and try again
>>
>>123412413
K one sec.
>>
>get fuckwig to 25% health
>does that gay massive shockwave attack
>literally cannot escape it, seriously?
>>
How much damage does a top gemmed Rakuyo do with 40/40?
>>
>>123412583

9001
>>
>>123412335
well obviously there's mechanical reasons but the whole "not dying when you die" thing in all Souls games is a mechanical reason with a narrative role

the optional to let Gehrman kill you is "submit your life" and when he kills you in the boss fight he says "you must accept your death." so i think the narrative is saying that as long as you keep trying to come back, you won't die
>>
>>123412413
Thanks anon.
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>>123402468
lmao she just looks like pic related in drag
>>
Watching dsp made me remember how bad /bbg/ is. Some people are STILL stuck on ludwig even WITH summons, holy fuck this general is truly dead.
>>
>>123411168
>When you kill Maria, Doll gives you the new dialogue about feeling unshackled

Holy shit...
>>
>>123412498
Don't run away from him, circle around the back. Then R1 mash away.
>>
>>123412859
I disagree. This is the same face sliders, different hair. Trying to do a Maria but it isn't working out
>>
>>123412891(You)
>>
NG+ Ludwig isnt hard. Just gotta dodge into him. 2nd attempt and got him to 50% health
>>
>>123413108
Well, you clearly aren't denying it.
>>
>>123413301(You)
Here's another one, scent pie
>>
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>>123413058
Oops here it is
>>
>>123413301(you)
>>
>>123413581
>that fucked middle jaw
>that dipping chin
pls
>>
>>123413516
Thanks, another (you) and maybe I'll help you deal with Ludwig

>>>/gamefaqs/
>>
>>123413736(You)
Shitpost on gamefaqs
At least there people can't recognize it so easily
>>
>How'd u go full beast mode like that??

Anyone else gotten non dlc mail?
>>
>>123414059
I sincerely hope you responded by saying something about the beast pellet.
>>
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>>123413723
SEND HELP
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>>123408460
Research Lad definitely feels like cut content, I remember Miyazaki saying the game will be like one huge Tower of Latria, and out of all the areas in BB the Research Lab feels the most like it imo.

Plus things like Maria, her gravestone, and just how well Orphan, her, Ludwig and Laurence fit into the story feels too seamless NOT to have been pre-meditated.
>>
wrecked ludwig on my 4th try!!!!
>>
So Orphan is the first Pthumerean right? Its a big tall person just like they are.
>>
Yooo the doll has new dialogue after you kill Maria and the Orphan respectively
>>
>>123408787
Did they though?

Doesn't look like many people are playing TOH. The trophy percentages for the boss trophies are like 1% and less.
>>
>>123414395
>first
How? He is literally born only when you walk in

Also, I doubt he is even Pthumerian to begin with. None of them were related by blood to Great Ones and he doesn't have the "long face"
>>
>>123414426
I did that and didn't get anything
>>
>>123414681
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol43j6k-e5k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-S_Xr0e_Is
>>
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Ended up getting Orphan down to 30% with 19 vials, out of sheer luck and because i've been fighting him for 5 hours now

Then he started jumping around the arena like a madman and got caught in a combo of the blood shit hitting me from behind and launching me into a slam

Goddmmit I felt like that was one
>>
>>123414516

Well, it's a nightmare, so it could just be depicting an event that occurred.

I'm alternatively thinking it's Yharnam's child. That would make more sense in the overall plot of the game, considering the whole baby plot seemed to end loosely.
>>
>>123414243

They make this shit vague on purpose so they can either add to it or let fans speculate.

If a dlc came out for Dark Souls 1 about the firstborn and the statue at Sunlight Altar, everyone would go 'Ah, the pieces fit so this must have been cut.'

It's just vague as shit on purpose, in my opinion
>>
>>123414789
Mergo is Yharnam's child though, isn't it?
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Enjoy this.
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>>123414775
I guess it's because I was at the end with the house on fire. You must need to do it prior to endgame
>>
>>123415168

But what happened to Mergo? We never see him. Does Yharnam just take him and jet? Was Yharnam not just a ghost?

The picture of Kos being female kinda disputes that tho. Seems weird that the church would have ANOTHER alien hidden away in an even more hidden hiding spot when they already have Ebrietas.

I definitely feel like Orphan is a Pthumerian tho, the physical resemblance is there.
>>
>>123407772
How do you read this?
Care to explain anon
>>
>Finished my beast man with alien powers Str/Arc Whirligig co-op build

Fun
As
Heck
>>
>>123416325
yeah? I just finished banging my gf :^)
>>
>>123416806

Pics?
Did you slime up in her butt like my tentacle porns?
>>
>You have reached your co-op/invasion limit for the day. Please consider purchasing the 'Helpful Hunter' or 'Hurtful Hunter' packages for unlimited connections!

Wtf is this? Do you defend this?
>>
>>123417141
>dont have PSN

are....they making microtransactions of invading and co/op? really, REALLY? holy fuck, tell me thats a joke cause thats fukin disgusting
>>
>>123418416
It's true, mate. I just got the message too. Locked out of all multiplayer beyond the messages after a certain point. Bells completely grey out in your inventory.
>>
>>123418416
lad....
>>
>tfw SL 90 and still can't deal with the DLC area or most of NG+ in general post Vicar

6 months away is lethal.
>>
>>123408460
When you consider that it was rumored that weed be able to turn into beast when we get covered in blood since the reveal of the game I'm also certain this dlc is cut content.the beast transformation in the dlc is the beast form we were suppose to have from the start.

Sony bullshit asside, this dlc does make bb my goty next to splatoon for this year.
I'm still at the start of the dlc after you beat Ludwig and all the weapons and rest of the story just make this game feel complete.

To bad for Sony I most likely won't be getting dark souls 3 so they can't shill me with souls series any further.
I think bb is a good close to the souls series and ds3 is just nostalgia pandering hence them going back to demon souls style.
>>
Can someone lend me a hand at Lewdwig? I could probably get him in a few more tries, but I guess my nerve is slipping because I'm starting to perform worse.

Bb5tt6y4
>>
>>123408460

I'm pretty sure a lot of it is content that they considered putting in the game, but then couldn't because of time constraints.

Just look at how much content was cut from previous games. At least this time we got it.
>>
>>123419028
I feel like Beast mode and Moonlight dildo are two things that were obviously intended, but not the whole DLC itself. Planned DLC is different from cut content.
>>
>>123419376

But they had no plans for DLC initially according to them.

I remember hearing something about beast transformation being cut over a Nintendo patent when the base game was released, too.
>>
>>123413160
Only on the second phase with the sword.
Dodging into him constantly during the first phase will get you killed
>>
>>123419750
>beast transformation being cut over a Nintendo patent
Sounds like bullshit, honestly. I don't quite get how a patent could cover a relatively vague concept.
>>
>>123413015
Careful not to give out wrong info.
In order to avoid tidal wave you have to back away and avoid pre explosion and then run to the side around him to avoid it
>>
>>123420026
You can eat the first explosion.
>>
>>123420020

Because somehow Nintendo had a claim over animal transformations
>>
>>123419916
I did this in 4 tries. I dodged towards him each time and survived. It wasnt as bad as everyone said.
>>
>>123420020
Nintendo has a lot of draconian patent. Patent trolling is a huge part of their business model. They were early on the scene of a new technology and new industry and snatched up a lot of really questionable patents before ethics and regulation caught up to what should and shouldn't be allowed.
>>
DSP vods are up for those who wish to see the agony and baby-level crying.
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