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THE BABY EDITION

>New Patch Includes - Keeper
Added The Keeper (unlocked by donating 1000 coins to the greed machine) and new items:
Keeper now holds... a single fucking penny
Rib of Greed
Keeper's Store Key
Karma
Sticky Nickels
Deep Pockets

>New Patch Includes -
Item nerfs
Alt+F4 now doesn't work for dying
Stopwatch nerf (only on-hit, still special)
Didn't change unavoidable damage rooms


>General Information
http://bindingofisaac.com/

FAQ:
>What does "item" do?
http://platinumgod.co.uk/rebirth
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Binding_of_Isaac:_Rebirth_Wiki

>What's that HUD that people are using?
https://github.com/networkMe/missinghud2

>What is "thing" on the post-it note?
Top row: Mom's Heart/It Lives, Isaac, Boss Rush
Middle row: Satan, ???, The Lamb
Bottom row: Mega Satan, Greed Mode, Hush

>What is Hush/Blue Womb?
New boss in a new area that opens when you beat Mom's Heart before the 30th minute.
Pretty much a bullet sponge though, so have fun with that.

>How to unlock The Lost?
1. Unlock Missing Poster.
2. Die holding Missing Poster in Sacrifice Room.
3. Congratulations, you have now unlocked The Lost in a fraction of the time of everyone else.

>How to unlock The Keeper?
Donate 1000 coins to the greed machine.
If you're not up for autistic level of grinding, use cheat engine;
1. First scan for the value you have in the greed machine.
2. If only one result, change it to 999.
3. If not, donate one coin and try again.
4. Repeat step 3 until it works.

>The Keeper has no sprite and dies instantly!
Remove players.xml from your resources folder.
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>>123372472
>/biog/
YOU BLEW IT
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>>123372472
>/biog/
I'll take it.
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Can't we get a thread with everything in the OP in order?

this is not as much of a failure as the last one but still pay attention next time
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>>123372472
>first /dota2/
>now /biog/

Batting a thousand
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>>123372472
>/dota/
>/biog/
You fucking guys
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>/dota2/
>then /biog/
OP YOU FUCKING DINGUS
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>>123372653
>>123372734
>>123372749
>>123372769
>>123372949
>>123372981
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first for BAD DAMAGE
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>>123372472
>/biog/
>not /blog/
Ya dun goofed.
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>>123372472
Binding Isaac of General

>>123373101
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>>123373580
Should be Curse of the Blind
There's nothing worse than Blind in greed mode
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>>123373650
>no items
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>>123373580
can i post this on reddit
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>low range against Mask of Infamy
It's cool, I didn't like this run anyway
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>explosive shot as ???
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with all these shitty "balance" nerfs dota general fits better
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>>123374287
Try not sucking at the game maybe, explosive shots are always great
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>>123374313
But the last dota patch was pretty great.
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>Forget Algiz rune before Hush
END ME
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What changes would you make to the game if you had power over it?

What upgrades would you want to see?
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i finally did it...all the post-its are done. i never have to play that piece of trash keeper again. now i just gotta find a bunch of items and do the speed challenge and it's finally over.
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Now wait just a fucking second here
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>>123375546
What's wrong with the keeper?
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>>123375790
his tear rate is too awful to knock back champion mobs and he dies to those moving spike button rooms because he's a slow piece of shit. also his flies tend to get him damaged upon entering a lot of rooms.
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Does anyone else reset if they don't get a damage upgrade by floor 3? I feel like the game is unfair if you try playing with base damage at that point.

Don't bully me. I posted this on reddit before and I got downvoted to oblivion.
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>>123376098
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>>123376098
Only as Eve.
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>>123376098
git gud
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>Do an Eden greed run
>starts with IV bag
Oh shit awesome
>starts with 1 red heart
>his shot speed is worse than Lazarus
>WITH Growth Hormones, he's a little slower than Maggy and my damage barely reaches 2
god fucking damnit

Fuck this game
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I present to you a gift, my children.

If you play Isaac or Eden you get:
6 coins

If you play Maggy, ??? or Lazarus you get:
Sacred Heart

If you play Cain you get:
2 Angel Chests, but you dropped that Lockpick in favor of a Curved Horn so fuck you.

If you play Eve, Azazel, The Lost or Lilith you get:
Absolutely nothing. Fuck off you devil deal reliant scrub.

If you play Samson or The Keeper you get:
The Wafer

Remember to come back any time, my child. Angel rooms will always be there for you and God bless.
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6 runs reached this thunder-cunt.
6th run finally did it.
With worse items than half the other runs.
All because he didn't fucking eat my change before I could grab it.
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>>123377505
>Azazel
>reliant on devil deals
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>>123377723
The guppy dream is real my friend :)
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>>123375769
Happens to me sometimes too, I have no idea
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What can we get out of the way?
>muh brimstone
>muh mom's knife
>muh steak
>fucking eggmund
>everything is shit
>coop babies
>mega stan
>spongebob
>shit item pool
>greed box jamming after one coin (x98 coin)

I'm sure there's some I've missed.
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>>123377505
>??? gets sacred heart
my favorite character and favorite item
truly I am blessed
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>>123378186
>he doesn't like brimstone or mom's knife
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>>123378186
>not using the hourglass donation machine exploit to get it to 999 in one run
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>/biog/
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>First Hush kill
>Ludovico with 4 tear delay (based Cancer) as Samson and massive damage from Cricket's Head
>Cancer Zodiac
>Trinity Shield
I'll never have a run this easy again, just end me now
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So I'm playing Greed Mode
Picked up Lump of Coal from the shop
Then Krampus drops Lump of coal
Do they stack?
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Haven't paid too much attention to Isaac since Edmund patched in more items in afterbirth after 109 hours.

Has something like that been done again or no?
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>>123378495

I don't like Mom's Knife, I think it's too strong for how boring an item it is.
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>>123378186
PERMANENT
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>>123378186
DRY BABY
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>>123383404
>>123383690
INVINCIBILITY
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>>123383746
PRECEDENT
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I just played the Lost for the first time since the Holy Mantle addition.

THE D4 THROWS AWAY THE MANTLE

The D4 is absolutely fucking pointless on Lost now. Who would give the Mantle up?
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Fuck me. I didn't update until today, and I got every achievement I could in offline mode. Now steam says I didn't get any achievement post second-to-last update, i.e., everything keeper related.
Is there a way to make them pop up without having to do everything over again? If I have to beat the Hush again with the keeper, I'll kill myself.
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>>123387047
Should have played in online mode anon ;)

don't worry, the steak is good to eat even when its cold. Just inch at it for a few days.
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>>123387385
I always play offline, and I never got any problem with any achievements until this time. It had to happen with the most boring and hair-pulling character there is.
Wasn't there a thing you could do in stats screen? Alt+something, I think. People did it short after afterbirth launched, to fix something about the importing of previous data
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I'm gonna finally win a run with the keeper.
Already completed boss rush (thx broken stop watch), on my way to mega satan.
The battery + glowing hour glass = infinite glowing hour glass.
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>>123386643
If after 6 floors you have shit damage, it's better to reroll your stuff than keeping holy mantle.

Holy mantle won't help you killing shit you know.
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Jesus christ Ed why would you ever retweet this shit.
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>>123386643

Last ditch effort to win once you've been hit by your final boss and decide those 12 Breakfasts you found aren't helping enough.
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>>123388697

Jesus christ my eyes
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>>123387605
Alt+F2 it was. Everything fixed! I feared I had to use The Keeper again, but now without getting stop watch. Disgusting.
Only 1001% remaining now
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Will they ever fix the 1001% achievement for those who got everything before the last patch? This shit is starting to piss me off.
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>>123388697
>no D6
Absolutely irredeemable shit
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Can the reroll machine still turn shop pickups into batteries?

I've got a really nice infinite money thing going in greed mode with car battery/blank card/2 of diamonds.
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Having 2 black and 1 soul heart, a 3 soul hearts devil deal will kill me, right?
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Never forget.
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>>123392874
hella freaking epic ed!
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>>123392874
That sure must have been fun for the six people that happened to live near edmund and could actually participate.
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>>123392771
Correct. If the deal gives you any soul/black hearts, you'll survive, but otherwise, no.
Example: if at 3 soul hearts and you take Abbadon, you live with 6 blacks.
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>>123388697
Who is that ghost above Isaac supposed to be?
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>>123393025
The Lost, who else?
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>Playing as Keeper
>Entering a room with Gazing Globlins
>One of them was a yellow champion and he instantly pins me down between a rock and a wall and I lose
>No unavoidable damage guys
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>>123392998
Could you pay it forward with Abaddon? E.g. you have one soul heart and you take Abaddon, do you die, or do you gain fewer Abaddon hearts?
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>>123393391
>I got myself cornered
>wtf bbq baka desu senpai unavoidable

Right.
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>>123393414
If you have 3 or less soul hearts, you lose all your soul/black hearts and then gain the bonuses of the item.
It goes like this:
Pay price of item
gain bonuses of item
Your stats update

So if it's a devil deal, let's say you have 1 heart and are offered Abbadon.
>lose 1 heart
>gain effect of Abbadon, raising HP to 6 backs
>Stats update and since you aren't dead, death animation doesn't play.
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>>123394381
Nice cheatengine
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>>123394648
>Restock is Cheat Engine
Kay.
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>>123394648
It's legit.
Yeah I'm not putting more effort than the developer to play as the most broken character in the game
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>>123393181
I thought the lost was the ??? one.
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>>123393547
>Yellow champion Gazing Globlin
Looks like you never met this guy, and he spawned right next to the door.
Oh sorry, didn't realise you play on normal mode.
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>rumors are rumors till you hear them from me. im currently playing with a lot of ideas on ways to expand and improve isaac, some of them might not be appreciated by all but understand that i wouldnt ever do anything to ruin any aspect of the game and things will be heavily tested before anything becomes official.
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>>123396853
>heavily tested
>Greed mode released with Blood Banks
>something THAT obvious "slipped through"
Ultra kek.
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>>123397059
Wait, was that not intentional? piratefag here im still on version 0.
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>Q:Will rebirth be full screen and have resolution options that dont suck!?
>A: yes rebirth features all the support that any normal non-flash game would feature.

the fuck. there's no options for anything. fucking tyrone.
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>>123397152
It was not. They pulled it within a few days when achievement notices of people capping the Greed Machine and getting all the unlocks first try rolled in. No more Blood Bag or Blood Banks and it's much harder to abuse the shops.
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>>123397367
Just press F nigga Jesus Christ
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Should I?
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>>123398167
Yes.
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>>123398167
>Time 00:00:06
Not losing much, are you? Unless you have a streak to keep. Doubtful since you're playing Keeper.
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>>123398167

Enjoy your one shotgun blast every 5 minutes
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>>123398167
>Six shots

More than enough to kill anything that moves
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>>123398312
It feels like I'm using a downgraded version of Monstro's Lung
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Do you think flying is worth picking up in the boss rush room on cathedral?
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>>123398167
>christmas themed keeper

cuuuuuuute
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>>123398516
>Boss Trap Room having an item

You'd be retarded if you didn't
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>>123398524
I also applied KAPP A seed to it, it gives your character grayscale which means that Keeper will no longer turn back to Isaac after picking up certain items.
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>>123398167
What is with that hat?
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>full clear chest
>not a single chest outside the initial four

Hate it when that happens.
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>>123376098
One time I didn´t get a damage upgrade until Womb 1.
Still won
GIT GUD
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>>123399170
Use the seed H0H0 H0H0
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Can I get some tips for beating Family Man?
Whats worth giving up Dads Key to win this challenge?
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>>123403197
Skip any tough rooms by using the key.
About the only Spacebars worth picking up are shit like Krampus's head, Blue Hourglass, either Candle, and D6.
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>>123403197
I used the Red Candle.
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>>123403197
Any Candle is your best bet. They do nice damage and block tears, so they're pretty great.
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Tech X+Brimstone+Krampus Head+Rubber Cement=Ludevico Techinque doesn't work.
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>playing Rebirth on Vita
>Lost runs become dramatically easier any time I pick up the Parasite

I never thought I'd be so appreciative of shitty hardware slowdown
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>>123404506
Have you ever played vanilla vanilla?
Because it's actually running in flash, it runs like utter shit even on some quad cores at the time.

Too bad Rebirth's characters look like trash in comparison.
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>>123407986

Yeah I played a few dozen hours of vanilla vanilla, but I never noticed XXXTREME slowdown except when there was absolute horseshit going on on-screen.

I think I've logged way more hours in Vita Rebirth by comparison so it's probably more noticeable to me.
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>>123407986
That's just like your opinion man
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>>123404506
So, can the Vita / WiiU not actually handle Rebirth or is Nicalis just shit at optimization?
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>>123407986
I don't mind the characters too much, but a lot of the item sprites look god awful. Afterbirth's art quality in general dipped really low.
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>tfw you take a chaos card to blue womb

scale this, mcmuffin
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>>123408867
>Update 1.0.8 - Chaos Card now deals exactly 1 damage to Hush
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>tfw I got 1001% and don't know what to do anymore
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>>123410938
Move onto other games.
Go try Paranautical Activity.
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>>123410938
Rogue Legacy is pretty good.
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>>123411293
no its fucking not
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>>123412749
you're right it's amazing
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>>123413005
amazingly bad
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I'm so done with the Lost man
Just got Brimstone and still died
What the fuck do I hold R for to win with this piece of shit
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I miss the days.
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>>123413759

I hate how fucking garbage it is now. It was nerfed so hard. If it had a one or two heart cost to use, I think that would be fine, but bringing you to half a heart just makes it useless to use.
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>>123377505
>WAFER ON KEEPER
I just got it and found out it does absolutely nothing.
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Talk about a good start. Didn't even need to deal with Rag Man thanks to a lucky High Priestess.
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>>123413092
I agree, its pretty boring, but it's decent. Not great. But ok.
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I don't think this run will end very will.
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>>123415156
It's pretty incredible but I hate it. It's pretty shitty but I love it.
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>>123413918
Of course not. That would be fun.
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>>123415352
D e c e n t.
I completed it once and had no desire to play more. I know there are people who keep grinding. Basically this game is grind for gold.
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>>123415319
I feel ya senpai
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>>123408412
>Giving Nicalis any benefit of the doubt.

Them niggas are fucking awful at optimization.
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>>123415489
Really, that's where the game ended. It had an actual conclusion, so it's the best place to stop.
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>>123408412

Considering it can handle the Dynasty/Samurai series just fine I'm gonna blame Nicalis. You get the worst slowdown when the game is calculating multiple bullet trajectories from Isaac, but you'll also get some fucking awful slowdown when the Wretched or White Pestilence start jizzing all over the place, apparently white creep causes bad problems.
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>>123415690
I liked the story actually. Though I think underground and area above are unbalanced as hell unless you've grinded a lot.

Now im waiting for nuclear throne to come out of early access. Also darkest dungeon seems to come out soon too.
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>>123415889

I can't see myself ever picking up Nuclear Throne unless it goes on sale when it leaves early access.
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does the new lost unlock work in challenges?
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greed mode isn't fun
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>>123415889
I never said it was bad, just that the end of the story is the natural stopping point.

>>123416091
You might still revive as The Lost, but I don't think you'll get the unlock.
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>>123416380
Yeah I understand, I'm just amazed they made a enjoyable story in a roguelike game.
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>>123416367
Feels more like a test mode than an actual game mode.
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>>123416091
>>123416380
i just tried it it gave me a soul heart and it keeps going half/full when i go in and out of the sacrifice room
unless an item does that or something
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Dry Baby and Ghost Baby within a minute of each other. Zodiac's neat.
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>decent Keeper run
>find D4
>can't resist
>get Dunce Cap, Soy Milk and My Reflection
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>get polaroid
>beat hush
>accidentally go down to sheol instead
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it doesn't seem like it at first glance but Brownie is just as poorly designed as Rag Man

if you don't have enough damage to shit on him right away he just spams out of control

>a billion corn dips
>corn poo land mines that spray projectiles if you hit them
>slicks the floor
>can activate tard rage and pinball around the room at impossible speeds
>turns into fucking dingle when you kill him
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Shame how shitty Greed mode is, because I like the Ultra Greed fight, minus the scaling bullshit.

It's a fun and fairly difficult fight, but doesn't usually feel unfair, and it's hectic with a lot of shit going on, but never feels like there's too much happening at once.
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>>123416671
I don't think that was a sacrifice room anon
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>>123417806
On the other hand, he doesn't have that much HP, and it's more likely than not that you'll be killing dips pretty quickly by that point. I'd take him over Infamy or Bloat any day.
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>>123418428
>I'd take him over Infamy
Yeah no. Mask is 2 variables and a minor annoyance after a few runs with him, but Brownie is so fucking many AIs running at once and is total garbage.
Mask>Brownie>Bloat in most runs.
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>get amazing build as blue baby
>already beat mega satan/isaac/blue baby as him
>go into angel room after beating mom's heart
>forget that I need to go into the dark room and walk into light

JUST
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who is better, Mathas or Northernlion?
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>>123419214
Mathas is an annoying fag tbqh
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>>123418761
>Remember to take the Negative mere seconds before muscle memory makes me take the polaroid as the lost
>Beat the heart but go to the light anyways

Every time.
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which one? stop watch is still decent item
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How many of you unlocked the Lost through legitimate means?
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>>123419924
Define "legitimate"
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>>123419858
>stop watch is still decent item
please
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>>123420089
Playing until you randomly got the rooms instead of using cheats or seeds.
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>>123420170
Are you serious
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>>123420170
You really think somebody would do that shit without seeds? Anyway, the unlock method changed.
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>>123420269
What is it now then?

The wiki still shows seeds.
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>>123420170
Who the fuck is actually gonna go around as Isaac with half a goddamn heart just on the off-chance that a mulliboom is going to spawn for once in like, 30 runs? That's unreasonable.
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>>123420403
Read the fucking OP you moron
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>>123419858
welp nvm
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>>123420585
>picking up Brother Shitty
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Oh look guys it's the "guess I'm just fucking dead then" room
Love it Edmund please let me suck your dick
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>>123421629
You'll only take damage if there's no room on the right side.
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>>123420585
No.2 litreally fucked my shit up it's worse than bob's brain
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>>123422414

its not even close to being as bad as bob's brain

play with your sound on and its nearly impossible to take damage from no. 2
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>>123420542
Well now there's no seed for the missing page.
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>>123418428
No damage upgrades on any character, barring Azazel, and it takes at least 2 hits to kill normal little poops. Corn poops have more hp

Add that to the bullet hell Brownie makes and you'll be hard pressed to outkill his spawns, deal damage, and not get hit
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>>123413432
just keep rerolling until you get ___gud____
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>>123423901
Haha ebin! Upbloated my friend!
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>>123312268
>401KB
How you even keep this quality without artifacts?
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>>123424323
The Lost isn't that hard, you just need to use the D4 to reroll the holy mantle intoGIT GUD
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>>123424323
git gud
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>>123424490
>relloing holy matle
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>>123424705
>not wanting to reroll into breakfast/snack/dinner/lucky scab/liver/the body or any of the other numerous fantastic items Ed designed to work well with The Lost
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>>123424436
Recorded in OBS at 1080p with a bit rate of 2500, cropped out everything outside the room to hide my stream info, and used a .webm converter to handle the rest
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Any piratebro got a coop link?

I'm trying to baby it up, but I've got an older version.
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>>123425045
http://igg-games.com/the-binding-of-isaac-afterbirth-free-download.html
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>>123425045
>I want to see all the 6 million babies
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I cannot stand the Keeper. At least The Lost had flying and free devil rooms. And worth while unlocks.
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>>123425452
Very funny.
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>>123426204
it works for me bro
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>>123372472
>Alt+F4 now doesn't work for dying
Who /requestingrefund/ here?

Jesus Christ the recovery frames for the keeper are fucking bullshit I have taken damage in one second flat.

Cuntmund should stop patching out fun and fix the fucking game.
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>>123426378
But patching out Alt+F4 is fixing the game
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>>123426378
>Edmund should stop fixing the game and fix the fucking game
>asshurt babby who relied on glitches to win
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Go ahead, I've got all day.
>>
ISAAC
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDRmA8pIu6s
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>>123429687
who spends their time making this shit
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>>123430051
The same guy does a lot of SCP voiceovers. They're mostly really good.
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>>123430051
it probably only took like 20 minutes to make
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>>123429473
AND
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>>123430381
ISAAC
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>>123430540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMR0Aldn6WU
http://imgur.com/w8GovfL
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>>123430540
LIVED
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hahaha holy shit

It's a good thing I never had a serious investment in this game.

What are the chances Stillbirth ISN'T a colossal fuckup?
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>>123430609
I wish this played after you defeat Isaac with Isaac
>>123430771
>What are the chances Stillbirth ISN'T a colossal fuckup?
12.5%
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>>123430771
It was a typo in the first place. There's literally nothing wrong with that.
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>fighting monstro
>use dead sea scrolls
>it summons monstro
>monstro is killed by monstro
wild ride desu

>>123372472
/biog/
this aint bioware gen I tell you hwat
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I just beat Hush on the first try with The Lost. With Mom's Knife, no gnawed leaf, and only one orbital.

I really wish I had recorded that just to be able to prove I did it. Though I think Edmund might have really ramped down the damage scaling, because he went down quick.
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mixed feelings
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>>123432950
left
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>>123432950
>eve
>7 hearts
What are you DOING
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>>123432950
HP up in the item room
I hate my life now
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magic fingers or jar of flies?

i have 50 coins and 12 damage and playing as the lost
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>>123433584

jar of flies, no contest
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>>123420686
hes part of the conjoined transformation

but i doubt that works on the baby factory
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I would've lost ages ago if I didn't have Lil' Brimstone. Goddamn what a carry.
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>ooh, finally got technology 2
>it's pure shit
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>>123434795
>People still think Tech 2 is bad
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>>123434865

It gets worse the later you pick it up.

If you get it on the first couple floors it's just okay.
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>get hit as the keeper
>Enemy touches me again
>Die during recovery

Anyone else having this problem? It has happened to me every run, an enemy hits me and then touches me immediately during the recovery frames and I die.
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>>123434907
This I won't deny, even as an advocator of Tech 2 and Soy Milk; I'm not going to pick up something so drastic. However, I believe them to both be better than people take them as.
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>>123434907
>killed by a charging worm
>literally does so little damage on it's own that it can't stop a charging worm from across the entire room
maybe it's good if you have a fuck ton of damage buffs but on its own it's literally worse than nothing
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>>123434907
>>123434865
I hate it when spoon bender and rubber cement don't appear in the same run. I don't think I have ever had that combo outside the d100
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>>123426536
That is doing things the bethesda way!
>Uh oh people are having fun better patch the glitch before anyone can have fun
>Meanwhile People can still get stuck under the map

The game has always been kinda broken but it is in its own stupidity that the game is fun, let's be honest the point of the game is too get as broken as possible given how the item pool is polluted by shit items. I liked Isaac Eternal better than Afterbirth, it has been a grindy adventure.
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>>123435012
Tyronne fucked up, even in the original Edmund made it so other items would carry to either tech 1 or tech 2.

If you get curse of the blind and pick it up late game you are essentially crippling yourself.
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>>123435274
>I can't play without abusing a save exploit to cheat death
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I am curious but also scared
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>>123430771

It was a nice theme for Judas though. The king of devil deals but has very low health to work with. It made him unique.
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>>123435791
Doesn't do shit senpai
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>>123435791
and it does nothing... okay.
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>>123435791
>>123435870
>>123435914
quality game quality synerge tbqh family
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>>123435689
Thanks I did not see the same fucking response above.
>U mad
Is this general really that dead this is what we must resort to to get it going?
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>>123436315
>I literally cannot beat this game without abusing an unintentional consequence of the continue feature
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>>123436267
Welcome to Afterbirth
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>have 3 pretty flys
>get another pretty fly pill
>use it
>it does nothing
THANKS EDMUND
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>>123436434
I bet you unlocked Keeper legitimately, right? Yeah, piss off.
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>>123436627

That's been a thing since vanilla
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>>123436660
>it's legitimately impossible for me to finish a run without making use of a save-related exploit
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>>123436689
I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET INFINITE ORBITALS DESU
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What do you guys think of my Lost build before I died on It Lives?
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>>123436434
>>123436660
Not that guy but I did everything legitimately except for the lost on hard mode given that the game has a lot of bullshit rooms.

So basically one must be a true autist to beat the game for
>Muh achievements
Literally nobody gives a fuck when one could simply use cheat engine.

The point being that patching the game is okay but they still got to balance the game, I also beat Mega Satan on Hard Mode with the Lost without using continues and Afterbirth did not take that into account, so yeah the deal here is that Edmund and Tyrone break shit up and people find a way to exploit and have fun, this is was literally how Wrath of the Lamb worked.

Now there is some pretentiousness about the game where Edmund and Tyronne truly believe that the game is well balanced when both have admitted to ever have played it all that much.

The frames for the keeper are super weird, you can get killed instantly at full health.
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Would you guys play the coop if the modders actually put their minds together to make it online?
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>>123437134
Yeah but I was hoping Nicalis would do that at some point, I mean fucking Hammerwatch can do it, why can't this game?

I mean it would be cool to use that 30% worth of content that gets unused.

Literally how does co op even work on 3DS, there are 3DS exclusive babies.
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>>123437280
>3DS exclusive babies
seriously?
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>>123437280
>3DS coop
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Does Tech1+Brim do anything other than add a visual effect?
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>>123437632
there should be a small laser around the brimstone beam

its barely visible
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>>123437563
>>123437493
I can confirm there is co-op one. player uses the touch screen and the other the buttons, it is super fun really.
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>>123434865
Tech 2 is always awful, unless you got some dope ass tear effects to back it up. Otherwise you might as well forget it.
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>>123437019
Marked and Anti-Grav totally fuck it up but otherwise could have taken you all the way.
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>>123437764

I know this is fake but that is legitimately the worst control scheme I've ever heard of.
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http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Babies
>this is the second-longest page on the entire wiki
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>>123438359
>using wiki
go back to reddit
>>
>an entire day of doing lost runs to beat hush and mega satan (only things i need left to 100% the game)
>had a run with extremely low damage and shitty items for the hush fight, i somehow managed to get him to half hp but i died
>turns out i forgot i picked up a 1-up in the Caves 1
>use d4 to reroll myself
>its shit
>go into shop, only one battery there for sale
>buy it
>get gnawed leaf and the BBF bomb fly
>park myself in the middle of the room, afk for about an hour and then i beat hush
>died in sheol but i didn't really care since i didnt have the angel room key or any angel room shit at all

>couple of runs later
>first item room after resetting the first floor is epic fetus
>not bad
>second floor item room is money = power
>go into shop
>bomb donation machine to max out money
>along the way get the angel room key and like 3 orbitals (meat cube, sworn protector, and sacrificial knife)
>make it to mega satan and win


well thats it boys. all i need is to find the mega blast in a devil room and then i've 1001%'d this bitch
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>>123438359
Wow, a lot of effort went into shit no one will ever see. I'm pretty bitter about this.
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>>123438678
What was your setup for beating Keeper's stuff?
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>New expansion adds modding support to fix tyrone's fuckups
>don't want to pay them any more money
>Reddit's obtuse as fuck system means that you won't be able to download mods if you don't log in and it says you have the expansion
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>>123438359

>THIS is what "Fighting mega satan will yield rewards :-)))))" was for
>Judas' doesn't even fucking do anything
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>>123438967
i did hush and the chest first, i got a death's touch in the first room which helped me and then i got some tears up items which helped me immensely when i got lost contact and sagittarius in the two rooms in blue womb which basically meant hush (or anyone else) couldnt get a single bullet off because the lost contact would nullify it and since the scythes are so big and fired so fast it was a snooze

next room was dark room and i got moms knife early and some other stuff that i cant quite remember.

for the final run which was mega satan i found dad's key in the first room which was lucky because i could take moms knife from a devil deal. i had some damage ups too and an algiz rune which i popped as soon as i took a hit of damage once i almost killed the ultra greed/sloth/gluttony/pride combo. it took like 2-3 seconds to get mega satan through each phase and kill the angel minibosses so the rune lasted the remainder of the fight.
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never forget
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>>123438359

Goat Head Baby is the most insultingly useless one of the entire list.
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Beat ultra greed with a 0% chance of jam, 99 coins and a two of diamonds card.

I was only able to put 70 coins in the machine.

I am beyond mad.
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>>123439580
>only 70
senpai
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>>123439580
sucks. it is possible to put in all of your coins with 99 + a 2 of diamonds though, i've done it.
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>>123439580
I just had my first Blank Card game break
Machine broke after 10.
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>>123440062
That wasn't even a broken game, I just had ludovico with azazel, which means I did not bought a single thing except two damage up, keys, and hearts.

The entire point of greed mode is to not be greedy and try to keep as much money in the end.

It makes 0 sense that the machine can jam.
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>>123440629
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>>123438359
kek
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>>123440886
is that its actual name or just what the wiki gave it?
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>>123439482
I love how it works as both a Loss parody and as an actual explanatory tool

RIP in peace
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>>123438059
Re-rolled all the items I had then into existence. Before that I had nine lives, but I made sure to use them all before re-rolling. I'm on pre-mantle afterbirth because the later versions wont work.
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>>123437714
Is this an actual thing or just a ruse
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>>123442145
sorry fun isn't allowed here

only slowly chewing your steak
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>>123442485
that's super greed desu
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>>123438359
I love all the redundant shit
>Skeleton Baby
>RED Skeleton Baby
>Jammies Baby
>NEW Jammies Baby
>Bear Baby
>POLAR Bear Baby

Literally fucking why
>>
>haven't played since Fallout 4
>play as Keeper
>pick up the wafer
>still take full damage
epic
any other bullshit I need to know about this character?
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Damn this room's got doors.
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>>123444174
You can only take 1 heart deals unless you get him to 3 hearts by donating another 999 coins
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>>123444174
Each time you donate 999 cents, he gains a coin heart.
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>>123444174
Yeah, the coin hearts count as red hearts so you'll basically never get angel/devil rooms, and 2 heart devil deals will always kill you unless you have some way to cheat it like a strength card or judas' tongue.
Also all of the unlocks suck so unless you really want the 1001% achievement and mega b last just don't fucking bother.
>>
So I was just doing some testing and if you hit the D4 while you're holding an item above your head it'll reroll your entire inventory except for that item. This is basically useless except when you have curse of the blind.
>>
Is The Battery bugged? I'm doing a shitty Blue Baby run where I have The Bible (due to lack of damage - my only damage up so far is fucking SMB Super Fan) and a kinda high tear rate, but the battery won't fill up past two notches on the 2nd charge.
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>>123444613
It's a "bug"
needs 2x2 rooms to charge more senpai
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>fucking hate familiars
>think most of them are a waste of an item
>unlock lilith
>maybe this will be fun

>it's not
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>>123444303
>>123444391
Are you trying to trick me? I can't find anything confirming this
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>>123445108
Incubus is one of the best items in the game, let alone best familiar
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LOL
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>>123445108
Incubus is best familiar.

It's just a copy of whatever shit you do.
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>>123445502
fuck off i just fapped
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>>123445213
its one of the best items in the game if its on anybody other than lilith
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>>123445108
Lilith is fun as fuck, especially in greed mode where you can just keep using it by clearing waves. Buy some battery items and get more familiars. Using her special item literally doubles your damage output so that it's like you're playing two of the same character in comparison to anyone else.
>>
Bob's Brain stacks with Explosivo and the negative familiar.
The more you know.
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>>123446343
*Bob's Rotten Head
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>>123446343
>Bob's Brain
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I'm finally done with this game, now I can return to having a functional life. Thanks, Joker card into first room mega blast.
>>
>>123446441
For such a poor choice of spacebar item, it sure has a surprising fuckload of synergies. Didn't fagmund say it was one of his favorite items or something? I think I can vaguely recall reading something like that on the boi blog.
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>>123446640
How d we fix BRH? Make it auto-recharging, like a candle?
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>>123446798

It should at least be a one room charge.

And you should be able to tap space again to detonate it if you whiff or want to hit a tinted rock.
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>>123446798
That or once a room.
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>>123446798
That's stupid. Make it a 2-charge, at best, so it's a sidegrade of Mr Boom.
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>>123444660

Ended up dying, but finally made it to Blue Womb only to find out that Pinking Shears do not work on the Hush. Fan-fucking-tastic.
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>beat boss rush as Keeper
>game crashes as I leave
>reload the game
>starts me back at the start of depths 2 with no post it cleared
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>>123447124

Yeah, items like shears, meat boy, dead bird etc won't aggro to Hush. It's a load of horseshit.
>>
>>123446983
Mr. Boom isn't an offensive item, though. It's a free bomb use every 2 rooms so you can hit up more tinted rocks, search for secret rooms on bigger floors, or actually get those single pennies surrounded by rocks.

Rotten Head by contrast is harder to get to explode where you want it to in passive situations. It's really for killing off that one annoying champion, bunches of enemies stuck together, or dealing a little more damage on a boss.

Compared to both Candles which do higher damage and recharge on a timer, Rotten Head is garbage.
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>>123446983
Mr. Boom is not an outstanding item either though. IMO only good for early game if you're somehow getting no fucking bomb drops. BRH could actually be a FUN offensive item possibly lasting a whole run if you give it a single-room charge, and it wouldn't even be particularily broken.
Also, Mr. Boom comes with a built-in Mr. Mega, so just upgrading BRH's charge time not wouldn't be too unfair.
>>
>>123447182

Weird, I got it to after trying to get some Mom's transformed knife action in to speed up the fight. The more you know, huh?
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>>123447182
How are we supposed to take this game seriously with as many bugs as it has? That's the issue I have. I can't be assed to do something difficult and have the game end up fucking it up anyway because the developers didn't test it out. Ugh.
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>>123447182
I'm pretty sure you're full of shit, unless it was changed very recently. It's more an issue of Hush having an aggroing range only about as big as his sprite.
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>>123447418

I just had a run where the Gemini familiar was hitting Hush but Meat Boy wouldn't. I'm not shitting you.
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>>123447482
I see. Fucking sucks then.
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>>123447327
>How are we supposed to take this game seriously with as many bugs as it has?
Nah dude it's fine, stopwatch isn't OP anymore :^)
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>>123445125
They want you to waste your time. Keeper is just a piece of shit to play, full stop. There is no way to make him more tolerable right now aside from unlocking his shitty starting items (one fucking penny, what what). You can wait for him to get buffed (bugfixed ayy lmao) or just suck it up and wish for death.
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>>123447217
>>123447276

Not everything has to be the best thing ever. You don't see people trying to buff trascendence or lord of the pit above all flying items, or shoop da whoop.

Make it scale off tear and bomb (glitter bombs, bomber boy, etc) buffs as well, with a +25*(actual tear damage-base tear damage), and possibly gain effects like godhead or ludovico's if you really wanna make it that much better. Like an explosive glass cannon that won't ALWAYS near-kill you. Two to three charges per use.
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>>123448176
Well I got lucky enough to get mom's knife, trinity shield and two chaos cards, so I knocked out a ton of shit in one run. All that's left is dark chest path and mega satan.

Is the 1001% achievement just for getting all the other achievements or do I have to collect every item too?
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>>123448326
>You don't see people trying to buff trascendence or lord of the pit above all flying items
Because flying itself is pretty good

>or shoop da whoop
pic related

The thing is, there's a huge divide between active items. They're either complete garbage, or extremely powerful. Very few fall in the middle.
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>>123448326
>You don't see people trying to buff trascendence or lord of the pit above all flying items
It's not a particularily valid comparison imo. Passive items cost you nothing to take them, unless they are super bad in the first place. Spacebar items, on the other hand, should be at least remotely competitive, because you can only take one. At least that's what I think. Also, both those items are good anyway, and belong in different pools, and you are not guaranteed to get either of them or other analogies, while BRH shows, like, every fucking run.
Even for Shoop, I've had a few times when I stuck with it and enjoyed it. I've literally never kept BRH longer than two minutes, and I believe the only way to fix it would be to ask yourself a question: "How can this item make me pause and ponder my choice when I run across another spacebar item". I don't really see myself pondering that with BRHs chargetime being longer than a single room. Shoop's okay with two rooms since it can murder a lot of annoying trash in one shot, BRH can't do quite the same.
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>>123448518
EVERYTHING

GOOD LUCK WITH MEGA BLAST
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>>123449051
>get Chaos
>break Greed Mode
pretty easy desu senpai
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>>123445108
>"Lilith is a great character"
>mfw I can't place any of my shots correctly because incubus trails behind me slightly

She's good at Greed Mode and boss rush and that's it
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>>123449365
I don't even know how to tell you how easy it is adjust to such a minor difference so instead I'll just tell you to get good.
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>>123449529
I did, she was the first character whose completion marks I finished completely
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>Keeper now holds.. A Penny!
what is this
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>>123450278
shit is what it is
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is this nerfed nickel?
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>>123451623
No, it's a rare penny replacement.
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>>123451623
No, it replaces a normal penny.

Worst case scenario, you lose out on a cent.

Or you trade a bomb for shop value.

Best case is getting something else to blow it up for you
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>>123452773
Best case scenario is getting a dime instead.
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>>123437714
Is this an edit?
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>>123454890
Take a guess, anon.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=345171576
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>todays daily
t-thanks d-100
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>>123455806
Man it's such an easy daily but I almost killed myself taking dr. fetus monstro's lung for the hell of it, turns out ipecac fetus monstro will randomly blow up in your face half the time and won't have normal ipecac/fetus's self explosion immunity.
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Character Tier Lists GO

Azazel > Isaac > scrubs
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so now with the new missing poster what is the best way to cheese the lost
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no one fucking told me that if you run out of coins you die
fuck you edmund I had such a good run going
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Not today.
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who designed this fucking room

>mfw getting floor 1 brimstone deal
although i haven't got much else good from this run, i spent like 5 minutes rerolling shit on floor 1's treasure room after like 3 batteries dropped in the same room for me, and every reroll was shit
lard was the last battery, not too bad.
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>SPEED! Challenge
how the kek are you supposed to beat this artificially difficult shit?
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>>123464975
that's not even a hard room

git gud
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>>123465041
i know, i just passed it twice on the next floor without taking a hit
but it's a fucking irritating piece of shit

>curse of the maze puts me back into it one room after i leave it
niggers
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>>123465262
Curse of the maze was buffed in afterbirth. Now it teleports you more frequently as well as mixing rooms.

>>123464993
You play it like the lost or keeper. Hold R until you get op shit, if devil deal is not enough to carry you, reset.
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>curse of the lost
>pick up pick
>amnesia
literally
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>>123465585
>pick up pick
anon
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>>123465585
>curse of the lost
>mining helmet in treasure room
>the sun
>curse of the lost next floor
>next floor, first pill i get is amnesia
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DUMB DAMAGE
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>>123469486
DEAL

WITH

THE

DEVIL

PRECEDENT
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Gotta keep the guppy dream real
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>>123466449
The Sun and The World should negate CotL/Amnesia the same way Dagaz negates curses.
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>>123466449
>use an amnesia pill
>immediately followed by a ??? pill
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the host for cutest item of the year 2015
the second best way to redeem bob's brain, too, just under pyromaniac

>>123470647
that would be great
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>>123470870
Is host hat a special item?
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>>123471519
Nope.
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>>123470870
FUCK WHY DID I PICK UP TINY PLANET WITH MOM'S KNIFE
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>>123471672
Cool, it's basically pyromaniac without shitting up other special items.
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Anyone else think the Stopwatch is op? I don't remember how I unlocked it but it's pretty much the best item, maybe other than Brimstone, I have found. I guess I'm just not very good at dodging. Do you guys like it?
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adversary is a huge cutie and has huge cute feet
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>>123472430
>watermarks
>>>/trash/
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>>123472430
Post some of mega fatty
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>>123372472
>Stopwatch nerf (only on-hit, still special)
>Didn't change unavoidable damage rooms

Do mods or edited maps still lock you out of achievements because I'm not going to deal with this once I get the dlc.
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>>123472653
>unavoidable damage rooms
I see no problem with this.
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Why the fuck does Brains go all the way to the Chest? fuck you Edmund
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>>123472972
They aren't too much of a problem now that lost starts with holy mantle and the keeper is allowed two hits, but they're still awful from a gameplay perspective when your game plays more like a slot machine than anything requiring skill.
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>>123473457
That's just how rng works though.
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>playing as Eve
>get soy milk
>whore of babylon procs
>still no damage
How much damage up do I have to get for this to do anything? Does soy milk even work well with Samson?
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>>123473808
The only way to get any damage is to have libra. Even with literally every damage up and multiplier you're still going to get less damage than default isaac.
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>>123472653
>unavoidable damage rooms
which rooms? i've never seen any rooms like this
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>>123473981
Can you give me the numbers?
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>>123474129
No because I only tested it in game with a modded starting map. Soy milk is never worth it unless you have a reroll engine and plan to get libra.
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great dlc
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Why can it break Edmund? What's your problem?
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>>123474036
Rooms filled with TNT and a single troll bomb, or something like >>123474392
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>>123474731
Might take multiple runs to unlock everything. If you have a problem with that maybe you should stop being so greedy.
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>>123474036
Champion Gurdy Jr. in a small boss room for one.
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>>123474392
>have a room like this
>curse of the blind
>playing as judas
>one of the rocks was tinted
>blow it up
>a big troll bomb spawns
>it kills me
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>>123475002
>Champion Gurdy Jr. in a small boss room
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>>123464336
Was doing that with brimstone
Fucking love shielded tears on brim
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>>123474036
Brownie with low damage

He'll pull off his bullshit tard rage before you can kill him and you will get hit by it
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>>123475226
>Get to boss rush with a great run
>Curse of the blind
>Get fucking Soy Milk
Out of all the bullshit in this game, that is by far the worst. What the fuck was he thinking?
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>>123475596
>taking items with curse of the blind
Your own fault desu
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>>123475713
I don't really have a choice when I have to do boss rush on a character that hasn't yet
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What kind of run do you need to consider trying Hush? I've got a great Lilith one going with 20/20, punching bag, and reasonable stats, and I cleared Boss Rush without getting hit, but I still can't help but think Hush is going to ruin the run.
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>>123475794

Have orbitals or alternatively, a way to recover health. Once you have those, then it's a tedious cakewalk.
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>>123475794
>>123475869
Ludovic is highly recommended. And if you have Trinity Shield, you can't actually lose
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>base game made it already hard enough to get acceptable items due to the massive amounts of shit items
>dlc adds more even worse items
great
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how many good items were added in afterbirth
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>>123475794

Three orbitals/the soul/trinity shield/one makes you smaller/gnawed leaf + automatic familars/shielded contact

Basically anything that makes you harder to hit. Your damage output is basically inconsequential since it'll take 5 minutes if you picked up not items and 5 minutes if you have every item in the game.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT3laWF0Jx8

Isaac is pretty gangster
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>>123475869
>>123475921
>>123476706
I did it with none of these (except one orbital). The two Punching Bags kept the spawns away, and Hush's continuum has a ridiculous amount of blind spots. Still a tedious as fuck boss, though.
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why the fuck do fucking enemies appear in curse rooms before they were already a large enough gamble but now they are fucking pointless
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let all familiars scale with a small percentage of your damage so they can at least be kind of useful post-mom without needing to get BFFs
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THE FUCKING BLOAT JUST FUCKING WRECKED A NEAR PERFECT KEEPER RUN
FOR FUCKS SAKE
TAKE YOUR STEAK AND STUFF IT UP YOUR ASS FUCKING EDMUND
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>>123477269
More enemies with more health = difficulty my friend :)
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>>123479030
Why does Brother Bobby, Abel, and Cain's Other Eye exist?
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can you use seeds to unlock the lost in afterbirth?
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How does Ludo work with Lilith?

>>123480058

In Afterbirth, the method of unlocking The Lost was changed. You now have to die while holding the Missing Poster trinket, as seen here:

http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Missing_Poster
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I WOULD HAVE FUCKING WON IF I HADNT PICKED UP FETUS IN A JAR
WHY THE FUCK IS THAT CONSIDERED A SPECIAL ITEM ITS SHIT
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FUCK THE GOD ROOM CHANGE I CANT GET A MEGA SATAN ON JUDAS DESPITE DOING EVERYTHING INCLUDING DONATIONS AND BEGGARS
FUCKKKK YOUUUUUUU
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>>123480816
and theres no seeds for this shit? it just comes up once every blue moon?
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>>123481428

I think Seeds cancel out achievements, but I'd check with someone just to be sure.
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>>123476091
>>123476647
>Placebo, Toxic Shock, Bomber Boy, Car Battery, Box of Friends (sort of), 8 Inch Nails, Based Incubus, Fate's Reward, Sworn Protector, Scatter Bombs, Epiphora (I guess), Continuum, Based Charged Baby, Dead Eye (I guess), Holy Light, Host Hat, Restock, Pupula Duplex, Eden's Blessing, Bumbo, Censer, Rune Bag, Seraphim, Based Serpent's Kiss, Tech X, Tractor Beam, Maw of the Void, Spear of Destiny, Chaos on occasion, Spider Mod, Purity, Athame, Empty Vessel, Evil Eye, does Lusty Blood count?, Cambion Conception, Immaculate Conception, More Options, Crown of Light, Deep Pockets (sort of), Based Succubus, Teleport 2, Black Powder, Glowing Hourglass, Circle of Protection, Based Sackhead, Nightlight (sort of), PJs, Head of the Keeper, Glitter Bombs, Jar of Flies, Binky, Mom's Box, Kidney Stone (sort of)

A pretty good haul. The rest are shit or extremely situational to the point of not being a necessity

I would say the issue with the DLC isn't the items, it's the rooms
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Y1DK
2K6H

Eden starts with Holy Mantle, Mom's Knife in floor 2 devil room and Polyphemus on floor 2 item room

Maybe
I don't have everything unlocked yet, so naturally it might be a shit run
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>>123481602
Is black powder really any good?
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>>123474829
i've had a good amount of rooms like that and i've never taken damage in them so far
also >>123474392 is only an issue on judas and ???, using bombs will solve that otherwise, and the lost & azazel can just fly over spikes.
>not being able to recover one heart
>not being at half a heart at all times as eve


but to be fair rooms like that aren't really rewarding to the player nor are they particularly fun or challenging, especially when normal item rooms exist anyway and the spike treasure rooms just spawn as a variant of them.

>>123475531
brownie is pretty shitty, yeah

>>123480816
she gets a single ludo tear and her incubi still get to attack normally
it's actually pretty shitty since you pretty much either have to pick the tear or the babies - trying to use both at once is an excellent way to lose your sanity.

it's basically like using the robo baby v2 with any other character except you have to pilot the robo baby directly onto the enemies

>>123480910
>not being able to handle dr fetus
nigga i finished a run with dr fetus and mr. mega, no pyromaniac, no wafer, no host, got through hush and megasatan.
literally covering half the screen with explosions every shot.
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>>123482357
It's unique and fun
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>>123482357
it's good if you've got high movespeed, since you can easily cover the screen in a giant fucking pentagram that does constant damage to any enemies inside it, makes gurdy a joke.
otherwise don't bother
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>>123482357
It's not amazing but it's pretty decent, it does fairly quick ticks of 10 damage in the circle. It should really hit flying enemies though, it's kind of useless if you don't get it early.
Also it's fun.
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>>123482554

Thanks for letting me know. Didn't make it to The Hush in time even though it would've been a sweeping win had I did. I just can't seem to get enough early momentum with Lilith in order to make it to Boss Rush/Hush.
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After i used D100 i become death destroyer of worlds

https://youtu.be/TS2ix8aF1rE
>>
MY BRAIN
>>
>Pick keeper
>Find swallowed penny
>Buy habit in the shop
>Unlimited spacebar item use forever

Damn this character is easy to make broken runs with
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>>123483293
as long as you can just get to the boss rush with either a couple of tear upgrades or literally any other familiars, you're pretty much set
since the boss rush will refill half of the box of friends every stage, leading to shit like pic related
>so many tears that the game was actually despawning them to make new ones
finding the habit is also pretty rockin'

as for the hush, just hope you find a 42 hour energy pill beforehand or something

that said, ludo is pretty good for the hush for any character, since it lets you focus almost entirely on avoiding hush's attacks instead of faffing around trying to attack back, although you'll want a magician card or something else to add homing to your shots so that the ludo will automatically follow him
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>your favorite item never shows up
>your favorite synergy item always shows up, but never with anything else

Goddamn Explosivo and soy milk.
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>pick up eden's blessing
>start with poly next run
holy fuck
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>>123483968
If you diplopia Eden's Blessing do you get 2 free items next run?
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>>123483354

BAH GAWD
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>>123483602
Yeah if only I could make it past floor 3
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I'll most definately enjoy this steak, fuck you edmondo
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thanks edmund
>>
Holy shit, today's daily was insane. I sacrificed the opportunity of going to boss rush and hush just to explore the floors and it paid off with lots of FUN

> Start run
> Fate on stone chest in first secret room
> Proceed to find almost the entire golden chest item pool
> Became Bob
> Became fucking Guppy
> Riding with mah niggas Devil Beggar, Rotten Baby, Mongo Baby
> Making abstract art with Juicy Sack, Bob's creep and Black Power
> Rerolled Cursed Eye into Butter Bean

Ed simply can't take away the fun from me
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>>123488259
>Brimknife

Ew, no
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it keeps happening
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>>123483708

Very next run I ended up with Tech X and a Guppy Transformation, so it ultimately became all good.
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>>123488636
>he picked up the knife after having brimstone
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>>123475794
Doesn't matter if it ruins the run, you'll never have to do it again afterwards.
>>
does the % below your pickups when you're donating in greed mode mean the machine can break?

what happens if it breaks? it goes back to zero?
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>>123493186
It jams like your regular donation machine.
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>>123493641
thanks. kinda freaked me out since the icon is a broken machine
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>>123488636

>He could've had 4 brimstones
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>The greed machine can jam

Literally why
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I JUST WANT TO DO MEGA SATAN ON EVE EDMUND

5 RUNS IN A ROW
NO DAMAGE ON FLOORS
Z E R O A N G E L
E
R
O
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>>123494747
You realize that you can reset the run if you're finding fuck all, right?
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>>123497261
that's what I'm doing but no angel room at womb1 like seriously stop it

I even downloaded missing hud to be sure I wasn't fucking up and it's never happening
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>>123493832
That's Infestation 2, not Mutant Spider

Dangus
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of fucking course the wiz is a challenge room item

and people say curse of the blind doesn't matter
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>>123498526
fuck me I forgot image but I'm sure you got the idea
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What the fuck guys I didn't even pick up the wiz and now I have permanent r u a wizard
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>>123498526
>wiz is a challenge room item
why is it an item in the first place
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>>123497791
To be fair, I still get them confused too
>>
>>123498681
Because it's cool and useful if you know how to aim like with retrovision.
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>>123499110

Infestation 2 is red, Mutant Spider is green.
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>>123499274
>like with retrovision.
>>
Am I the only one that hates the new room sizes

I mean new as in from Rebirth

double rooms are okay if they're horizontal and I do kind of like the L-shaped rooms but tiny rooms are 9 times out of 10 fucking garbage and 2x2 rooms are just fucking tedious early on (and they could've done something interesting with 2x2 rooms because of their size but instead they just shit a bunch of enemies in them and call it a day)
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>>123499274
>cool and useful
>retrovision
and i don't see how being incapable of attacking anything in hallway rooms or any room with rocks is cool or useful
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>>123498681
Trolling novice players
It was funny to see everybodys reaction when they got The Wiz on prerelease tb h.
>>
>>123499868
I'm pretty sure it was sarcasm anon
>>
>>123499825
I was cool with the 2x2 rooms

The stupid puzzle rooms that do nothing but eat time piss me off.

Especially if you're lacking flight or speed.
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REMOVE CURSE OF THE MAZE

I'M TRYING TO GET TO BOSS RUSH AND IT KEPT SENDING ME AWAY FROM THE BOSS ROOM LIKE 10 TIMES THE MOMENT I GOT NEAR IT

FUCK OFF
>>
>>123499825
I actually really like them, I still feel like there's not enough variety in room shapes. Maybe there will be a mod that adds more, but that would be a lot of work.
>>
>>123499868
Wiz + rubber cement seems like it might be fun in those kinds of rooms, desu
>>
>>123499825
>2x2 womb
>beginning speed and no flight
>those fuckers that pop up from the ground, shoot, then disappear
Sometimes I like it, sometimes I HATE IT.
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are you fucking kidding me
>>
>>123502368
What's the matter, anon?
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>>123502368
>no box of friends
gg
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>>123502393
look at the active items slot
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>Get Bumbo for the first time
>Bumbo is cute, CUTE
>he's my nigga
>Get to hush
>Rek his bluebaby lookalike form
>As he enters his true form, Bumbo crawls onto Hush and drops a bomb in his center
>Bumbo's sprite disappears as the bomb detonates
>mfw Bumbo's sacrifice
>>
>>123502368
HAHAHAHAHA
>>
Do we seriously not know what golden horse shoe does after 3 weeks?
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wow what a completely useless piece of garbage.
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>>123502836
>he doesn't know
>>
>>123502993
No, i don't
>>
>>123502836
probably nothing, edmund is enjoying himself

in a few weeks the effect will get patched in and he'll say it was a "bug"
>>
>>123502948
Tech X?
>>
So I'm doing the daily and I D6d the Rotten Meat that Widow dropped
And it rerolled into another fucking Rotten Meat
what the fuck, why is that allowed
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>>123503894
IT JUST HAPPENED AGAIN
WHAT THE FUCK
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>haven't gotten a boss rush in fucking ever
what the fuck? do I need to buy a Binding of Isaac(TM) SEASON PASS 2015 in order to get the SUPER DUPER MEGA BOSS RUSH DLC?

>>123503864
compared to what I had it was pure garbo. I practically killed moms heart instantly
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>>123504161
>he doesn't know
>>
So teleporting into the I am error room after the hush fight prevents you from going to the cathedral.

That's fine, I didn't want to fight Satan anyway.
>>
Can someone explain how the chaos card works?
My first time getting it I went to the hush and I wiffed it and died. Am I retarded?
>>
>>123504336
What exactly are you complaining about? You say that as if Boss Rush happens randomly.
>>
>>123504348
Please tell me
>>
>>123504627
I haven't gotten one in over 10 runs, what's the deal?
>>
>>123504794
You have to get fast and get good
Beat Mom in 20 minutes or less
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>>123504794
You have to beat mom in under twenty minutes. It can still disappear if you beat her but don't enter the door by the twenty minute mark.
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>>123504523
It fires in the direction you're walking, not the way you're shooting. If you're still, it shoots downward.
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So getting isaac's heart with eve's razor blade doesn't make her take damage but the damage boost only lasts for the room instead of the floor.
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>>123505385
Can't you spam it and accumulate massive damage anyway, though?
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How do I beat Suicide King? I can usually get by through Depths 2 pretty easy but everything goes to shit from there.
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https://twitter.com/edmundmcmillen/status/670025861475667970

>i hope you dont get too full in todays daily run! also dont take the stop watch because its totally not an auto win item anymore... NOT!
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Quick question, does the boomerang work on hush?
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>hold R for 18 years until gedtting a single decent starting item
>boss is broom closet boss rush every time
this game is designed to be anti-fun
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>>123506924
>restarting a run consecutively
Get that soy milk and shut up
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>>123506713
epic
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>>123507141
>even bothering with runs that start with some stupid item like bomb mods, shit followers, and the shitty zodiacs
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>>123507498
>shitty zodiacs
does not compute
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>>123507498
You know the first item room isn't everything, right? You could've easily gotten Epic Fetus/Brimstone later on.

You don't even need a good item on the first floor, base Isaac alone is enough to get you through it.
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>>123507860
>wanting aquarius, aries, libra, pisces, or sagitarius
Somehow they and bomb mods end up being 95% of my starting items.
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Why is soy milk a special item when its so shit
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>>123508801
Soy Milk is no longer a special item
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>>123507498
>>123508594
Don't shit on bomb modifiers. Bomber Boy, Scatter Bombs, Homing Bombs, and Tear Bombs are great.

>>123508801
Soy Milk and Lil' Brimstone are no longer special items.
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>Lil' Chest
>Brother Bobby
>Ghost Baby
>Lil' Chad
It's like the game hates Lilith. I just want an item I can use.
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...

...why exactly the Ib Back does not always drop a coin. Was it nerfed for the keeper or something?
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>>123509634
That and piggy bank are nerfed for the keeper.
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>>123510314
>nerfed for the keeper
WHY
H
Y
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>tfw playing Keeper Greed Mode
>resetting until good shit
>Get Godhead Nine Tails start
>get to Womb
>decide to try my luck with Nightmare Wave
>whatcouldpossiblygowrong.jpg
>DOUBLE GREEN CHAMPION BLOAT
>DIE IN ONE HIT, BECAUSE APPARENTLY CHAMPION 1 HEART DAMAGE AND NIGHTMARE WAVE 1 HEART DAMAGE STACK INTO TWO HEARTS OF DAMAGE
>manage to calm down
>reset a lot more
>get Pupula Duplex Nine Tails run
This is surprisingly fun. If only I had Eden's anime hair for maximum tear slashes
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>enjoy your steak but don't take 20 minutes to enjoy it :^)
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>>123506452
"Throw" Your tears
Always go for the secret rooms
Get a bible
Safe you extra life for bosses, you don't leave the room.
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>get pill mimic + 48 hour energy + book of sin
>keep generating rooms full of batteries and then using book of sin with them all in hopes of tears up pill
>do it hundreds of times
>not a single tears up pill, but it spawns every single other pill

What the fuck Edmund? WHAT THE FUCK?
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>Devil deal wave in The Shop
>It's not 2 Stains, 4 headless worms, and a bunch of tentacles for once
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>>123512584
Enjoy your steak
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>>123512584
Well, just googled and found out there's a fucking PILL ROTATION.

At least I became so small that I'm invisible. Which is both good and bad.
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>>123512613

Really, so there -is- variation?
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>>123408867
I know this feel
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>>123512613
I don't believe you.
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>>123513971
>>123514590
I had it happen a grand total of once
It was 2 green bloats anyways
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>finally unlocked D6
All it took was a Crown of Light on blue baby, the Spear of Destiny, an ipecac. And honestly the only reason I got those angel room items was because I kept passing up the shitty devil rooms I was getting.
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How do we buff Friendly Ball?
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>>123518317
2 room charge, maybe a larger hitbox
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>>123518317
2 room charge is good enough.
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WHAT THE FUCK
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Afterbirth soundtrack MEGA link when?
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does the joker card not spawn in greed mode?
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>>123520067
>filter
mem
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>3 Eternal Hearts first floor on the daily
wow
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And so, the fighting force known as FAGOTS eliminate the drug kingpin, Hushpuppy.
God bless Bob's Brain
And God bless America
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>steamcommunity.com login still completely fucking broken for me so can't get on moddingofisaac
>find out about mod loader that lets you download from moddingofisaac
>find alternative download because the fucking thing is hosted on moddingofisaac
>in order to use it you have to log in to the site via your web browser for whatever asinine reason

fuck everything
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>Box of Friends doesn't duplicate Abel

I would bet money this is intentional and Ed is trying to force Abel into the "le epic funny bad meme items :^)" group along with Butter Bean, the Poop, etc.
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>>123524182
Except it does. They just overlap each other.
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Goddammit, I keep on getting runs as the lost that would destroy anything else in the damn game and I sill die to mega satan.
Also, if it wasn't for the damn stopwatch nerf, I would have beaten him by now. This seriously pisses me me off.
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>Gimpy + Dark Bum
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>>123525446
>serpent's kiss
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>>123525446
>>123526170
who cares the game fucking sucks and has zero content
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>>123526210
No, the expansion sucks and has zero content.
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>Do pay 2 play challenge
>1st floor cursed room Guppy's collar
>mini boss room dead cat
>2nd floor fucking game room blood bank get IV bag
>swallowed penny
>fucking 2 of diamonds
>tinted rock get fucking small rock
>flooded caves gold chest head of the keeper
>Boss rush explosivo end dead eye
>Womb cricket's head

I had fucking fun.
I didn't even need to use 2 of diamonds.
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>>123526556
nah. whole game.
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>>123526681
If that's your shitty opinion, why are you even in this thread?
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>>123526782
dude shut the hell up im definately not hear to answer your gay questions. the game sucks ass, simple as that.
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>>123526904
Wow, hostile much?
It just kind of boggles the mind that you dislike the game so much yet here you are hanging out in a general thread for it.
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>>123527182
im not "hanging out here" dude. The game just fucking sucks. what kind of idiot designer thinks everything being a massive health sponge is a good idea. and slidey movement that affects your shot trajectory? please youre gonna put me to sleep, fucking idiot this game sucks.
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>>123527375

is that you grant
>>
Finally unlocked the keeper, did it legit because I hate myself.

Can't be bothered to already ruin my sense of achievement by trying a run with him.

I'm going to bed.
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wait, do people think rag man is hard, or is this a meme
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>>123527375
If you weren't hanging out here, you wouldn't still be responding to me. You'd have made your post and left.

So, why ya still here? :^)
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>>123527495

he's not hard, he's just a colossal waste of time to get him on the first or second floor if you have no real damage or tear upgrades
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>>123527578
dude dont even talk to me idiot. mind your own fucking business you meme smiley user. this game pukes cum.
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>>123527705
Well, you're entitled to your opinion, I guess.
Have a nice day!
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>>123527814
shut the hell up cuteposting faggot. get a personality of your own.
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>>123474392
I agree nine times out of ten that's shit. But your playing as fucking Eve without the razor unlocked, that's a easy activation of Whore for you right there. Just don't get hit and collect spirit hearts after.
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Which bosses am I missing?
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>>123529295

>>123372472
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>>123526210
Unfortunately, this.

Vanilla Isaac had just enough amount of content for how uneventful the gameplay was, and it was fun enough. Rebirth has the exact same shit, gameplay is uneventful, no online multiplayer (which is really the only thing the original didn't have) and the game still fucking lags when there's too many things on screen. for 15 dollars, you're not even getting close to the same deal as you did with the original. This isn't even taking into account the backdraws of the expansion.

Big fan of Isaac here, big disappointment in Rebirth. So much could have been done but instead its just a rehashing in pixel form and thus more stuff to uneventfully grind through. If the game had multiplayer, I'd be much more excited but so far its not worth the time.
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>>123529620
>and the game still fucking lags when there's too many things on screen.
what kind of toaster are you running?
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Talk about good bomb placement.
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>>123530228
It depends on the scenario. Try shooting Loki's Horns and the Parasite over a lot of rocks. Pretty guaranteed you will get lag. Game lags whenever I defeat It Lives or theres a ton of explosions/shots on screen. This was supposed to not be present and part of the reason why a non-flash version of the game exists. It's just not well optimized. The fact it can't run on a Wii or 3DS is evidence of that (yes, I know they're weak but this is a fucking 2D pixel game.) To add to that, there aren't even options to turn off effects in-game, even more troubling.

The game was supposed to run well on poor PCs as well, Edmund said this in a Q&A. As it is, the game requires a moderately decent PC and that's a failure in what the actual goal of fucking making this remake.
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>>123530620
>doing BRAINS! challenge
>no fucking crawlspaces appear
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tyrone is such a fucking faggot holy shit
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>>123531747
>paid mods
and another community gets destroyed
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>>123531747
>>123531880

look at the date you fucking chimps
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>>123531985
I don't think that's really relevant

The fact that he wanted that at all is awful
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>>123531747
>>123531880
>>123531985
God damn, it's actually real.
>>
>>123532109
>>123532145

yes it's real, it was posted around when that skyrim shit was going down and that blew up in steam's face so hard its likely they'll never revisit it
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>>123532145
https://twitter.com/tyronerodriguez/status/593146296950624256
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>>123532225
Except for the fact that he put up a poll recently about modding
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i've never turned into guppy

what am i doing wrong
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>>123532637
Guppy's rarer now since Edmund nerfed Curse Rooms into uselessness and filled the red chest pool with garbage.
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After killing It Lives in less than 30 minutes, do I go through the big door or to the next floor for blue womb?
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>>123532953
No. You have to keep going to Sheol
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>>123532953
Go through the big door...

so many assholes in this general who will try to fuck your shit up. The game's bad enough as it is.
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>Necropolis
>still rocking base damage
>the run's lasted 30 minutes so far
Kill me now.
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Does this work... let's find out, "massively improved Combo system."
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>>123533642
yes
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>>123533642
Oh holy shit, it does.
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>>123533642
Hope you have bomb immunity, m8
The worst is when you can spam that shit like crazy, but kill have to be cautious because of self-damage
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>>123533874
At least he has Epic Fetus, not Dr. Fetus.
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>>123533642
monstros lung really needs to work like chocolate milk where you can fire before full charge

maybe then id actually pick it up
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simply ebin
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>>123534238
>not picking up Monstro's Lung
Get some taste
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>>123534290
Restart, the game is taunting you because you dont have keys
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>>123534339
>Monstro's Lung + Keeper base
Total hell, longer charge than base Azazel.
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>>123387385
>Onan's Streak
>this might be the run, pretty much everything went right
>cricket's body
>what could possibly go wrong?
>no
>lose all my health the next room
NO

What are some essential items for challenges? Bibles, soul/black heart books, invincibility, Brimstone/Mom's knife?
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>>123534495
Mom's Knife I believe makes it so Onan's Streak never hurts you from missing, since you don't fire a tear.
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>>123534639
Isn't that the case for all piercing effects?
I'm pretty sure Death's Touch won't hurt you either
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>>123534495
Dead Eye is fucking incredible for that challenge.
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>>123534720
Death's Touch and shit like it will ALWAYS hurt you because your tear has to hit the ground/an object, which triggers the Streak damage.
Anything that counts as a "tear" breaking on anything besides an enemy hurts you.
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>>123527495
>Rag Man post-Basement
Is this a generic enemy?

>Rag Man Basement
STOP SPAWNING RAGLINGS YOU SHIT
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>>123534849
Alright, nevermind
Classic Edmund
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>>123529620
>Wanting multiplayer in Isaac

God, that sounds pathetic
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>>123534849
This was fixed. Death's touch will hurt you if it breaks without hitting a monster.
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>>123527495
You can get Rag Man in the basement outside of a boss room.
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>>123534339
sorry the games boring enough without having to wait 10 seconds for each shot
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>>123535242
go away you insufferable faggot
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>>123535884
He's right, you know
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Nice. NICE.
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>>123536073
visual bug
every time
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>Like an angered child, I stormed off in a huff from Afterbirth because I had grown so fed up with it
>Returned to WotL for some solace

Guys, send help. I'm having fun.
>>
Why can''t Azazel benefit from tears/range up? It makes perfect sense that her brimstone could attack faster or have more range.
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>>123536114

Yeah it was just a visual bug.

Fuck though
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>>123536385
Edmund detected that would be fun and removed it with the anti-fun lasers.
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>>123536385
>her
Out, heretic.
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>>123536385
>tears up
Decreases charge time.
>range up
Increases range very slightly
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Should I?
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>>123536786

No.
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>>123536786
nigger you have 10 hearts, and that massive damage up only costs 1.

plus you get to do the NLIAG&FYM strat
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>>123536914

But taking the knife destroys what makes Lilith fun
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>>123536786
>not taking every item you see the second you see it
it's like you don't even know how to play the game
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>>123537101
If that's how you're supposed to play the game then why does your score punish you for it.
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>>123537237
The punishment is extremely minor.
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>>123514113
you know. ima go buy a chaos orb, just in case
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>>123537237
The score is like golf. The lower the better. Duh.
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Off to a good start
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>>123537986
did you died
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>>123538057

On the last one? Yeah I was stupid and got careless.

Anyway all of this is shit, I mean fuck.

I guess I'll take brother shitty to keep angel rooms at bay
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>>123538331

Immediately things get better
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>>123538456

Nicer.
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>>123538331
>>123538456
>taking Brother Bobby
Literally worse than the Shovel in that instance. Should have gone with Satanic Bible instead and at least get back your heart.
>>
Quick idea for an item:
>Baptization
>All Devil Deal items are turned into Angel Deal items.
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>>123538792
and I forgot the most important part fuck
>All Devil Deal items YOU HAVE are turned into Angel Deal items.
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>>123538792
>>123538863
All items in the devil room pool, or all items you took from devil deals?
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GOD my damage is ass
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>>123539230
How about all demonic items, instead?
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It gets so hard to see I started taking stupid damage.
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>>123539431
There's a total of 40 passive Devil Room items in the game, but only 28 passive Angel Room items. Assuming you broke the game to get most of what's in the Devil Room pool, wouldn't your item leave you with a lot of breakfast?

And christ, I hope that's an active item, because it could really fuck over a good run if it were a passive. Imagine switching away Brimstone for Lazarus' Rags.
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Goodness me, that was almost... fun!
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>>123539916
It's a luck of a draw, that Brimstone could turn into a Godhead.
I think the bigger problem is, where would you get it? If you have Devil Deal items, you most likely can't get an Angel Room.
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>>123540072
Assuming it were a passive item, if you had curse of the blind you could inadvertently screw a good run over. It would make more sense for it to be a one-use active like Diplopia.

You could always get the item in an Angel Room first and then take a Devil Deal later, so Item/Angel makes sense.
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>>123540241
I wasn't sure on the passive idea, but the idea of taking it and saving it for after you take some deals sounds great.
Next question, what would the item sprite be?
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Needless to say, I died.
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>>123540241
>>123540539
If you want a symbol for it, just use the actual existing symbol for baptism.
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>>123540878
Whipping up a sprite now, then.
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>>123541561
>>123541579
Well fuck.
Have it anyway.
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>>123541561
>>123542258
Still better than the in-game item sprites.
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Devil room chance is 100% but goes down to 36%? when entering curse rooms? Or is it a glitch in the HUD thing?
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>>123543353

It's because you're taking damage I'd assume
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>>123543385
I take normal damage from enemies and the numbers stays at 100%, but the moment I go into a curse room it goes down to 36%.
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Good joke.
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>>123543597
Why aren't you playing azazel like a good boy, anon?
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>>123543657
Because activating Razor Blade five times in one room is fun.
>>
So are we getting anymore horribly bungled ARG characters forced down our throats you think, or has Breadboy learned his lesson about throwing a child's shitfit over his shittier design ideas?

I figure there's gotta be a Hush in the future somewhere.
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I'm a shitter who has been playing since the original BoI pre-Wrath, has Wrath and Rebirth, but only managed to beat the Heart once and never in Rebirth.

I just bought Afterbirth. Was this a good decision?
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>>123544298
>>
Is Black Powder any good?
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>>123544712
It's mostly nothing but if you don't have some kind of piercing shots you can use it against knights or something to save a few seconds.
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>>123544712
I pick it up every time I can.
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>>123544712
It is if you're fast enough, a large circle covering most of the room will kill everything fast.
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>get Tech X
>as Azazel
It does literally nothing.

Also is Azazel good? This is my first run as him and I have mixed feelings about the Brimstone laser.
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>>123545082
Extremely strong early game, but suffers a lot against certain enemies and bosses. Overall, he's the most powerful base character by far, but not very fun to play since his mini-Brim locks him out of most synergies.
>>
>one of the harder challenges, don't remember which one
>have to beat Mega Satan
>have Mom's Knife and almost full health
>Get Ludovico's Technique from one of the chests in starting room
>...There's no way anything could ruin this run right?
>>implying
>have the stats spider from earlier, knife is hard as fuck to use efficiently and does 1/5 of the damage it did before
>no
>final phase with half a heart remaining
>Ludovico's actually made it easy, but it was such a close call
I don't know what I was thinking. Is Ludovico's Technique good with anything? Most of the time it kills the run.
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>>123544712
If you have high speed, it's fun.

Does pretty good damage
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>>123545628
Brimstone and Tech
Ipecac too, because it'll constantly refresh poison.
>>
>>123544712

It's like a meat cube, if you remember you have it and use it right, it's good
>>
>>123545628
>one of the harder challenges
>have to beat Mega Satan
The only challenge you need to beat Mega Satan in starts you off with Trinity Shield and Mom's Knife. How is that one of the harder challenges?
>>
In terms of fun to play, by now I've settled on

>Actual Fun To Play
Isaac
Judas
Eden
Azazel
Lilith

>Sometimes Fun To Play
Eve
Cain
Samson
???
The Lost (With Holy Mantle)

>Rarely Fun To Play
Maggy
Lazarus
Keeper
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>>123545879
It may have been the daily run, I don't know, I've been doing challenges the past few hours. But still, I kind of expected Ludovico + Mom's Knife to do retarded high damage, but it does less damage than holding the knife and much slower.
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Well golly. My first run as Azazel, my first run on Afterbirth (yes, it's on Normal), and I got my first Heart victory since I bought Rebirth.

Getting Tapeworm makes Azazel really fucking fun.
>>
Quick idea for a Maggy buff:
Higher knockback on tears.
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>>123546908
Hey here's my #1 really great awesome idea to make Maggy a worthwhile pick;

MAKE HER TUBBY HEART-GOBBLING TARDGIRL ASS MOVE FASTER THAN A PIG PISSING MOLASSES ON A FROSTY MORNING

Boom solved done she's great now.
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>>123546908
Maggy now holds...child's hearts!
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>>123546007
Lazarus is fine if you just die right away.
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>>123547245
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You want a fucking incredible Lilith seed?

X1P8 KB6K

>Infestation 2 and Magic Mushroom floor one
>Seraphim floor two
>size down pill to counter Magic Mushroom, Car Battery, Fart Baby rerollable into Serpent's Kiss floor three
>Small Rock floor four
>tears up pill, BFF, Proptosis, Blood Clot in XL floor 5/6
>Blood of the Matyr, Dead Eye, Lil' Haunt choice in Boss Rush, Kidney Stone reward, insta-killing each wage, beating it in 17 minutes
>Godhead Womb 1 Angel Room
>Rubber Cement or Money = Power and Dark Bum or Fire Mind choice in Blue Womb
>absolutely shredded Hush within a few seconds, despite his HP scaling
>Soul in Chest
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>>123547771
Yeah, but then you may as well just play Judas, who has better health AND the Book of Belial.
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>>123544298
Not a single thing about your post is good.
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>>123547871
My strategy with Laz has always been to burn my first two heart containers asap then die taking a devil deal or something.

But yeah I'd rather play Judas almost every time.
>>
>>123548218
Also I meant to say better damage for the same health, not better health. If revived Laz had the same damage as Judas, or higher even, he might actually be an ok risk play.

I feel like Maggy could benefit if she had some sane gimmick, like maybe she can only have red hearts, and no soul/black hearts, maybe coupled with some huge boost to God Room chances or something. She is my least played character across every Isaac game and DLC. She's played for unlocks, then tucked into the same crawlspace as the Lost to die.
>>
i'm diggin' this greyscale easteregg, although it'd be nice if there were an easteregg that only made a handful of powerups show up visually (like just the flight ones)
never did like how isaac turns into this horrible clusterfuck of overlays

>>123546007
hard to disagree with that
>tfw trying to do greed mode with maggy

eventually managed to get one of those nearly broken-level runs where shit goes perfectly - thunder thighs on the first floor, steam sale inside a shopkeeper on like the second floor, ipecac in an item room, spoon bender in the shop.
shame i couldn't find a habit and hourglass.

>>123545628
ludo is pretty ballin' when it's purely on its own or with either of the beam weapons
for example, ludo makes azazel an ez win
otherwise don't bother.

also don't pick up explosivio with ludo because it respawns the ludo tear on your position whenever explosivio procs, or: every fucking time you want to damage something.
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>>123548391
I just wish there was a 'lock' function to your looks. Like you get something that makes Isaac look really neat or menacing, or you want to keep the visual clutter down. Click it on and he stays right as he is regardless of new items.

Knowing Nicalis, programming something like that is both out of their scope and would probably crash the game.
>>
>>123548391
>>123548487
I always enjoyed stacking items onto Isaac. Edgifying and disfiguring a cute little boy had its charms. I never liked the long train of familiars that always followed me, though.
>>
>>123548487
that reminds me, i've always wanted a way to toggle on and off certain items, so you can just not use that mom's knife you picked up in place of your brimstone, or the wiz you picked up in place of anything that makes sense
maybe it'd unbalance the shit out of the game, but i don't know. it'd be like just not picking the item up in the first place, except you still have a chance to see what something does without half the items being massive newbie traps
feels like a lot of things are there specifically to fuck over somebody who doesn't know any better like the wiz

but just being able to toggle the aesthetic appearance of an item would be nice
>>
>Lazarus isn't fun
literally just kill yourself
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Thanks eden's blessing.
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babies are content ;)
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>>123552201
FUUUCK YOU EDMUND FUCK YOOOOOOU
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>>123544058
>learned his lesson
Not even close. People are praising the ARG outside of this shithole, didn't you know?
>>
>>123548487
>>123548591
I remember when Rebirth (and then later Afterbirth) was advertised as having a function to export an image of your Isaac at the end of a run.
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I thought Edmund was being all 'we don't know about any unavoidable damage rooms'

But I just walked into a room in the Chest with quadruple Cage, I entered from the right side and the two rightmost Cages spawn on top of you causing you to literally instantly take damage no matter what

How can you not know about that

someone has to have designed that room
how did it not come up on the topic of 'hmm that might be unfair'


Fucking inept as shit Nicalis with their lies
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war, you moron
i didn't even put you in this position, you did it yourself
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>>123553460
>CAN'T BOMB INTO LOCKED CHALLENGE ROOMS ANYMORE
UDMEND YOU FUCK
>>
>>123546007
>Azazel
>fun

literally 0 synergies - the character
he's boring as hell
>>
>>123553641
You can, though. I did it a few hours ago.
>>
>>123504761
The whole run was based on Thanksgiving you lil kek.
>>
>>123513971
>>123514590
Sometimes I just get a bunch of shopkeepers and nothing else, it's pretty spooky.
>>
>>123504761
What >>123556630 said, but it I think it was also kinda because you get a dark bum on the basement 2 devil deal, so getting more heart containers would slightly cripple dark bum's effectiveness (it was shitting out eternal hearts too), so you basically just had to deal with not getting an item.
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>>123526210
>>123526681
>>123526904
>>123527375
>>123527705
>>123527971
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>floor 1 dark bum as ???
>get cornered by spiders and die two rooms later
i think that's enough isaac for today
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>>123557594
>chest with juutas
>1 heart left after hush fight
>getting the soul gave me 2 soul hearts
>decided to try get more powerful before going to mega satan
>first room 2 orange mega fatties that spawn rocks and jump all the time
Yeah I didn't want to win anyway.
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>100 posts until we get a thread with a properly formatted OP
>>
>1001% is still not fixed

Nice game.
>>
I've seen a few screenshots and webms here with damage numbers when hitting enemies, is that a new mod? haven't see it before
>>
>>123562817
It's a new shop item.
>>
>>123562850
oh neat
>>
>>123561851
I swear I didn't have it ready since yesterday.
>>
>>123562638
If you unlocked every other achievement before that one got fixed, you can never unlock 1001%, serves you right for biting into your steak too early
>>
>literally unavoidable light barrages from the Hush
Pretty fucking mad
Perfected the entire fight and lost to them
>>
>>123563634
>literally unavoidable
Um, move backwards and then up/down and around. If your speed is too low, pretty much everything in the game becomes unavoidable, but otherwise, you can dodge his god rays.
>>
>picked up Lil Chad without thinking as Eve
>he keeps dropping hearts right in front of doors
>>
>>123563634
>literally being this shit
>>
>see that afterbirth is on sale
>can get rebirth+afterbirth for 19.78
Should I get it or wait for a better deal?
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>greed mode as blue baby
>abaddon on first flor
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>>123464993
Brimstone baby carried me through it. Other than that my drops were crap
>>
TFW doing Hush on a Challenge and only getting hit once.
Pay to Play with Sacred heart and some other great shit, but no damage besides money. 2 shotting the Isaac sized Hush spawns is not fun with no tears ups either.
>>
>two consecutive deals when trying to fight Mega Satan

It's okay game, it's not like I really wanted to fight him anyway, that's all. I'll savor my steak.
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>>123565570
>go back to the Hush in the next run for revenge
>he doesn't even use the light beams for me to dodge
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>>123543597
>Good joke
>Has like 5 bombs and the fucking Nail

Nigger I'd kill for your luck
>>
>>123568715
He's talking about the lack of ability to bridge over because the middle rocks are both broken from Troll bombs. And Cricket's Head is lost on the other side until Flight. Rip.
>>
>>123548358
At least she has some of the better unlocks in the game
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>D100 into Soy Milk + Marked + Ipecac + Loki's Horns
>die from 12 hearts trying to get through 3 doors
Not even mad, honestly
>>
>>123569878
>high luck Ipecac + Loki's Horns
Fucking beautiful.
>>
>>123546007
Here's a better one:

>Fun if you're not a faggot
Isaac
Judas
Eden
Azazel
Lilith
Eve
Cain
Samson
???
The Lost
Maggy
Lazarus
Keeper
>>
>>123570747
>Maggy and Lazarus below Lost
Based.
>>
>>123570747
>Lazarus isn't funny
>literally better Eve the character
>>
>>123571254
in what fucking way is Lazarus better than Eve?
>>
>>123571398
I agree with this guy solely because "Eve now holds the Razor Blade!"
>>
>>123571254
>He doesn't have the Razor Blade unlocked
Even if you did, fun is subjective so feel free to make your own list.
>>
>>123565125
>Having more than one Heart Container as Eve
>Having more than three Heart Containers as Eve

At least the Razor turns them into raw damage. Best buff Eve could've ever gotten
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMmTwveS7T4
>>
>>123573796
That was... unexpected.
>>
>>123571254
Even without the Razor Blade, Eve is miles better than Lazarus

Dare I say even the Keeper is more interesting
>>
>>123572392
I don't have the Razor yet, and the three devil rooms I had seen by that point contained two black hearts and an enemy, three red chests with garbage, and two black hearts and an enemy, respectively. I found Dead Cat eventually, but I was in the Chest by that point.
>>
>>123574371
Keeper is more interesting, but much much more tiring to play with because of that bullshit that is
>always dies in 2 hits
and
>can't take 2 heart devil deals without Strength card or any form of HP up.
>>
>>123542548
That one's at least okay compared to shit like Marked/Zodiac and Circle of Protection.
>>
Give Lazarus an additional starting item that will make him not shit.
>>
>>123574571
>inb4 "Eden now holds Missing No.!"
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Which one?
>>
>>123574571
Suicide King xDD
>>
>>123574675

inb4 shovel
>>
>>123574674
>Eden now holds...
>Chaos!
>>
>>123574721
That's a good one tbqh
I commit naruto on the first floor every time anyway
>>
>>123574834
>Eden now holds...
>EVERYTHING
>>
>>123574935

>eden starts with rainbow worm, fruitcake, and three dollar bill
>>
>>123574862
It is, but it entirely goes against Lazarus' gimmick, and you have the potential to just reroll if you didn't get 3 items anyway.
>>
What if you could spend more eden tokens to start eden with more items?

Like 5 eden tokens = 5 random starting items.
>>
>>123575018
I'm still waiting for the Worm Pouch trinket. It is a fat worm with a gaping mouth that does nothing on its own, but gains the power of any Worm trinket you pick up, by "consuming" it.
>>
>>123575114

that sounds like you'd have way too much fun

you need to chew slower
>>
>>123575114
Then I would spend more Eden tokens every time.

Seriously, more stuff? That is a "yes" every time in this game. There is no drawback to having more stuff, unless you're a faglord like me and still don't know what the dice rooms do so you step on them to find out and lose a totally beast run.
>>
>>123575114

>Suggesting fun

LOL
>>
>>123575114
Lot of people has like 500 tokens
That would be too much fun, eat slower family
>>
So /boig/, have you altered any of the files to counteract Edmund's ban on fun?

>Gave There's Options, More Options, and both key pieces to each character
>>
>>123575742
I'm just waiting for the fix where Lump of Coal can't be sold AND spawn from Krampus in Greed mode.
>>
>>123575742
What a scrub
>>
Does luck effect "special shot" items?

Like with enough luck can my tears be ONLY teeth?
>>
>>123575951
Yes. And always 4 way shot with Loki's Horns, always fear, always make them love you, etc.

But you need a fucking TON of luck to get that shit.
>>
>>123576010

A constant 4 way brimstone with loki's horns sounds like fun. Throw rubber cement onto that shit and goddamn.
>>
>>123575951
I believe so. Depending on the item, you need a lot of luck to make it 100%.

>every shot procs holy light
>>
>>123575863
Is it really scrubbery if he's doing it for fun, though?
>>
>>123576172

Holy shots are cool, but the effect is so underwhelming, the beam appears and is gone in the same second, it also looks so fucking weak. If it left cracks in the ground or had a sound effect it'd be much better.

Holy version of brimstone when?
>>
>use temperance card as the lost
>demon judgement spawns on top of me and I die instantly

ok
>>
>>123576426
Actually, the holy shot is a 3x damage multiplier (for reference, teeth are 3.2x), and the AoE is deceptively large. It's a great effect, really.
>>
>>123576550

Oh I love the item, I just wish the effect had more "oomph"
>>
>>123576550
>>123576627

Oh wait, you mean visual effects. Yeah it can be a little boring to look at.
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Jesus christ ??? in greed mode is complete dogshit.
>>
>>123576674
>???
What is The Lost?
What is The Keeper?
>>
>>123576750

The Lost is legit right now. Holy Mantle is good shit, D4 can be amazing. And the nigga gets free devil deals.
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>>123576941
>TFW did Lost Greed pre-Mantle with 20/20 bomb tears
>TFW don't give enough of a fuck about Lost to touch him again until I finish everything else.
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Y-yeah, thanks...
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>>123577329

What, you don't have flight on the first floor? Fucking shitter. Get good.
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>>123576941
I still can't get anything done with this faggot.
>go behind stone head turret
>die cause it somehow hurt me
Fucking bullshit
>>
>>123577502
Turret shots spawn in the center of the head and then fire out.
>>
>>123577502
You can cheat, if you lose your holy mantle, quit the game and resume.
>>
>>123577502

That's a personal problem. The Lost is a solid character in his current state.
>>
>>123576750
the keeper is godtier in greed mode, wtf are you on?

also just now listening to the rebirth soundtrack, why is this so trash compared to vanilla?
>>
>>123388000
checked
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>>123577693
>Keeper is godtier in Greed mode
Literally what? Slow as fuck tri shot that doesn't synergise like normal tri shot, no flight, dies in 2 hits every time, and can be actively cut off from penny supply
It took me almost 100 runs, 6 of which got to the end, just to beat that shit.
>>
>>123520903
this
what the fuck why are there no links anywhere
>>
>>123577693

Some of rebirths tracks are good, but none truly top anything in vanilla besides the Cathedral.

Rebirths shop and library themes are a fucking joke compared to Vanilla
>>
>>123577693
Rebirth soundtrack is really good I don't know why so many people call it shit
Afterfun has god tier tunes
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>>123577693
>why is this so trash compared to vanilla
>People still believe this
>>
NEW THREAD TOOT TOOT
>>123578010
>>123578010
>>123578010
>>
>>123577907
idk if you noticed, but coins heal the keeper? and you can use wooden nickel every wave, which has chances to drop a nickel or dime?

maybe you should just get gud, i beat ultra greed on my first try with keeper
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>>123578016

It's good on it's own. Arguable vs vanilla.
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>Hush Tumor
>Use "A Card Against Humanity"
>Game has a fucking stroke
>>
>>123577329

>floor 1 ipecac
>complaining

fuck you
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