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We ran outta posts edition

>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit

>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.
- Check your ping with the servers: http://cloudharmony.com/speedtest-latency-for-aws:ec2-us-east-1

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.

>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5

>iCBT2 Sign-Up (Closed): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.

>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Wednesday, December 9th, 23:00 PM (EST).

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Tree of Savior is somewhat unique in that the games translation is heavily supplemented by fan contributions provided at IMC's offical Github. Is this genius or laziness? It's both!

>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0
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Dead
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>>123371079
Cute
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Doppel sprite best sprite
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xth for cawfee
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defending the sword->pelt->hop3->doppel->drag thing
I know that, but considering I see doppel as incredibly useful for a drag with cyclone/ deeds/ double pay, there's only 1 rank left out, and I don't see many useful barb 1 or corsair 1 stuff for dragoon.
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Everytime I open the launcher my eyes immediately focus on the female Wizard's tits.
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Last thread?
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>>123371296
why not instead do hoplite 2 > squire 2 > dragoon? (for that squire utility/money making potential)

or hoplite 2 > cata 2 > dragoon? (for that mount utility)

why go hop 3? 50 extra crit from finestra doesn't seem that good once you factor in crit gems / pumping some points into DEX.

5 more points in pierce/stabbing doesn't seem all that good since they scale pretty badly
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>>123371239
that guy drawed another /tosg/ attention whore right?
anyone has the end result?
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>>123371372
LAST THREAD >>123325265
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>>123371660

Thanks anon
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>>123370601
I was streaming since first day of kCBT3, until iCBT1 began.
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>>123371453
I'm a min/maxer so I never really think about putting utility class in my DPS-centered character.
We discussed this a lot around here, cata is shit, and there is a high chance that on further ranks of dragoon you'll get a skill that can't be used while mounted.
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>>123371453
The extra 50 crit rate rate is worth about 42 points of Dex, that would be better put into Str. Putting 42 points into Str at rank 7 actually gives you 80 Str because of the 10% Str bonus per class rank. Anything you can do to get crit rate without Dex is a good thing, because Str increases faster. And if you're going to build for your final high rank class you might as well take good buffs from low rank classes, and Finestra is the best buff for spears and Deeds of Valor is good in general.
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>>123371815
Then do what that another anon said and go corsair2 for ridiculous hexen damage.

Spear Lunge makes Hexen hit harder and you can use it with 1h spear+memedagger
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>>123371815
>unmounted dragoon
See, that's the first problem here.
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>>123371296
No hoplite? That self buff is insanely op, 150 crit chance at level 15.
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What's the Grimoire and cards thing Sorcerer's class info is talking about? Do they mean the cards you get from bosses randomly? Do they get consumed on use or anything and do they have different attributes?
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>>123371453
>>123372295
Also multi hit skills like Stabbing scale pretty well because physical attack and element damage add directly to every single hit.
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>>123372342
>dragoon
>one handed spear
I don't see the point of focusing on dragoon if you're going one handed.
>>123372368
what's the problem?
they seem to be going for the FF dragoon more than the real deal.
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>>123372804
It's a shame since Dragoon reminds me of Rune Knight from RO.

In the G-Star trailer they are mounted but that doesn't tell us much about the class. A bunch of the skills are greyed out also.

Prob will go Hop 3 > Doppel I guess. Cyclone with 2handed will probably be damn good.
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>>123372804
Because Dragoon's apparently have the one handed spear equip attribute which means it won't matter what spear you use, not to mention you use 2 handed spears with 1 hand with finestra anyway.
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>>123371296
Whats the point of using pelt if you're not going to use a shield?
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>>123372368
Weren't dragoons mounted infantry? I thought they used firearms too
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>>123373118
Swashbuckling doesn't require a shield.
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>>123373050
>2 handed spear with 1 hand with finestra
I know the sprite ends up wielding it with one hand, but you don't actually get a free slot whenever finestra is up.
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>>123373183
It requires a subweapon though.
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>>123373183
It requires one handed weapons, I'm almost sure. Anyway, why would you taunt every single enemy on screen if you're not doing a tank build?
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>>123373006
Pretty sure any class can use those mounts. The skills greyed out there are skills that can't be used with two hand spears.
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>>123373403
you can always use the weapons switch? have a spear/shield for when you want to tank and the two handed spear for dps
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>>123373504
Why go Dragoon then.
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>>123373006
why don't people ever up the quality on youtube like damn nigga
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>>123373528
why not?

>have one handed weapon/shield equipped
>use swash buckling
>switch to two handed spear
>kill everything

wow
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>>123373528
Why?
Because you fucking can and there's no reason not to.
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>>123373403
Well, that was on the other anon's dragoon build. sword2 and high doesn't look that hot too, so I would go high for the cartar stroke doing strike damage and being multi hit.
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>>123373624
That's retarded.
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>>123373691
why?

swash is one of the best skills out there honestly. it aggros an entire room for you.
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>>123373691
>having a full screen aoe taunt in a game about grinding mobs endlessly is retarded

dude...
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>>123373747
Don't make Dragoon then.
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>>123373494
some of those are skills that can't be used mounted too.
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>>123373790
you're fucking stupid. see >>123373762
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>>123370810
reposting because new thread: Could hopc2 something then fencer do well despite haveing to change weapons frequently?
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>>123373790
>Don't make a class that can use one handed spears and shield/dagger if you want to use swashbuckling

???
you're not making any sense here my man
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Other than to play the mini game, what are cards for?
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>>123373489
>>>123373183
>why would you taunt every single enemy on screen if you're not doing a tank build
For grinding obviously, have you not played the game? You use taunt to pull everything to you then AoE them down. Mobs are spread out in a lot of maps so it's a great tool.
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>>123373873
>>123373898
Dragoon isn't 1h class though.
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>>123371239
Gurinu tea
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>>123373980
>has 1hand spear equip attribute

whatever you say lol
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>>123374091
Still isn't.
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>>123373691
>>123373790
>doing what you can do to min-max is stupid because muh dregun phantasy
>im a min-maxer
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>>123373980
>what is weapon switching

all you fucking do is press L3 in (controller) and your weapon is switched
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>>123374143
>it's not a 1h class just cause I don't want to use a 1h spear

autism
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>trying to see what the crystal in saknis plain does
>kill monster as it links to crystal
oh boy
>>123373904
Sorc stuff, gem food
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>>123374196
>Mace on Dragoon
no
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>>123374269
nigger it's just an example from my other class. god damn you're fucking retarded
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>>123374327
Why are you arguing if you don't even have a Dragoon.
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>>123374148
I'm the anon that mentioned min maxing and I'm not the one you're replying to.
maybe he just want to be a special snowflake.
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>>123374021
gween tea
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>>123374269
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>>123372524
>>123372524
a-anyone
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>>123374638
kek
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>>123374638
Fake, there is no red spear in this game.
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>>123374493
holy shit you're good
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>>123374638
>MS paint spears on dragoon
no
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>>123374493
ya got me there
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>>123371815
>I'm a min/maxer
>I don't see the point of focusing on dragoon if you're going one handed.
Maybe to min-max?
Why do you say you are a min-maxer if you don't want to min-max?

Just equip a fucking 2h spear and roleplay then, faggot
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>>123374662
Yes.
No, they are not consumed. They behave differently and have different stats.
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>>123374736
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/equipment/thspear/?item_name=&order=name&grade=4&stars=All&search=

http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/equipment/spear/?item_name=&order=name&grade=4&stars=All&search=

=^)
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Well, I can see pelt's appeal for Dragoon, but I guess I'll be going swordie 2 for the buffs, including restrain. I can party up with another pelt later on.
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>>123374965
That's orange though.
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>>123375097
shit you're right
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>>123374979
>going for gun ho, concentrate and restain

you do know how terrible those skills are later on right?
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>>123374854
Well, in the case of changing to one hand to use swash buckling I understand, but besides that you're already implying that all dragon skills can be used with one handed spears, that I doubt, even so that in the trailer he used gae bolg, that probably can only be used with two handed spear.
and you're implying two handed spears will never beat one hand spear/meme dagger combo, which I think is too soon to confirm that.
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I don't know barely shit on swordsmen as I've avoided them, but I'm considering a pelt over a linker for OBT as I want to be someone heavily useful to any party and core to party play.

That said I need some help, I've already got most of my plans ready if I were to go linker again (Wiz->Pyro->Linker->Linker->Thaum/Sorc->Alch)
Depends on if thaum can later share 2x EXP or if Sorc gets Temple Shooter nerfed.

For Peltasta play here's the thing, Peltasta 3 looks very appealing the later we get but is very heavily dependent on if we get more mob density later on

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/t1sckyez7v/
I imagine Rank 7 would be Centurion unless Squire 3 is very enticing.

As it is now I'm not sure how many people will enjoy a Centurion party, but it seems it'll be good for WoE/party play if done right. If it's bad I can fall back onto Pelt for tanking/gathering.

With current mob density Pelt1 is usually enough, but not always?
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>>123375097
looks red to me
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>>123375298
it's canon orange
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>>123375262
Dragoon*
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>>123375243
but its like an arde dagger right
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>>123374979

why the fuck would a party want two dragoons? i'll take the one that has the god tier mob pull over your shitty minimal damage increase any day.
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>>123375456
>only dragoon can go pelt on c2 now
ok
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>>123375284
>or if Sorc gets Temple Shooter nerfed.
Hell nop, i'm already planning Sorc2 to see how strong it can get.
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>>123375456
Swashbuckling becomes irrelevant at 150+
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>>123375581
just saying if there's a choice over two swordsman and one of them has swash while the other doesn't. you know who's getting benched
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>>123375609
Necro gives you more damage output than sorc2 does.
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>>123375694
Actually it becomes more relevant than ever thanks to gigantic maps with low spawns, makes it so much easier when you don't have to run 5 miles to tag 3 enemies.
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>>123375694
>Swashbuckling becomes irrelevant at 150+

Swashbuckling is literally the best in Demon Prison. 150 is right smack in the middle of the grind.

It gets even better AFTER that because most mobs don't auto aggro all the way until 200.
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Easiest boss battle ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ErNHWG0jJQ
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>>123375284
your build is viable if you are going to party 24/7 but other than that, you are just a dead meat.
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>>123375694
god you're retarded just stop talking. i bet you haven't even hit 150 or partied with anyone in demon prison.

i'll tell you right now that the fastest time i had grinding was when we had a swordsman in the party with that skill. it was top fucking tier in demon prison 2. you could aggro the entire room full of tree fuckers and aoe them down.
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>Party quests still give x3 lv8 cards at level 200
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>>123375753
Lv10 bats would be nice, but are skeles and cannon really that good? Tbh i never saw cannon in action.
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>>123375935
That archer handicap.
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>>123375935
>level 1 boss
>level 120 archer
>still needs 2 auto attack
L O L
reroll while you can lad.
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rate my pure auto attack swordie/hoplite build

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/yl7zjqrl02/

>implying 40% chance to stun with each attack is bad

shit's gonna rape in pvp
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>>123376052
1 level of shoggoth is the same as putting 10 more levels into Summon in terms of DPS, but you also get an extra 80k hp tank.

Flesh hoop is better than cannon, and with skels are just icing on the cake.
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I heard you guys like Chaperon
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Why do the goddesses wear such lewd outfits?

I mean... why don't they just go nude?
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>>123375940
That's the ideal I'm going for but unfortunately finding a group I'm willing to party with guildwise 90%++ of the time is very tough.

I'm also curious about the interaction of Umbro Thrust's armor breaking and Arrest's weaken defense working together
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>>123376171
>autoattack build
>no corsair

excuse me
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>>123376171
>swordman
>rape on pvp
you're raping my sides
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>>123376194
My temple shooter are him, +100exp
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Paladin's Conversion is buggy as hell. Mobs don't even move an inch. They don't even react when attacked. Sometimes they "aggro" other mobs and try to cast things, but nothing happens.
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>>123376171

Restrain's stun lasts literally 1 second. It's shit.

And Hoplite is not good for pvp.
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>>123376429
>>123376546
what's good in pvp then?

is it your class? i bet it's your class.
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>>123376638
Meme cloak
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Man, the word about Bokors getting shat on (again) must be spreading. While I was collecting materials to craft my next weapon, 4 different swordfags challenged me to duels. Even though I had a bare minimum of 20 levels on all of them.

Dudes. Stop. Just because my very existence is painful, it doesn't mean I'm not going to lay down the law on you.
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>>123376194
you can get it from quest (boss drop). I even got 2.
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Holy fuck being on Saule is fucking suffering, no parties to grind with in Demon Prison to speed the process up and doing dungeons with the BRs is a fucking nigthmare due to their shit build paths and no Attribute investment.
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>>123376927
why are you even on saule
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>>123376927
>he fell for the Saule meme

why would you ever switch to that server? anyone with some common sense could tell you they will extend the beta
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>>123376927
Why are you on saule anon? Why are you doing this to yourself?
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>>123377019
I fell for the 1 more week meme. It's too late to reroll I'm already at rank 5 level 146.
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Here's my dragoon build:
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/fazawbg9gx/

Also, let me ask you guys, is restrain autoattack-only, or can I stun people with skills as well?
Also, r8
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>>123377106
You can make a lv90 in like 2-3 hours anon. Why are you doing this to yourself?
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>>123371206
But that's the kill stealer hairstyle bro.
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>>123376180
Do you have 2 sorc and necr to say that or did you pull that from your ass.
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>>123377135
restrain is shit. concentrate and gung ho are only good early level and fall off very quick at 140 (just like blessing/zalicai)

you're better off taking highlander for cartar or peltasta for swash buckling
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>>123377170
>2-3 hour
tell me your secrets ToS forum
the double exp is great but level 90 in 2-3 hour?
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I have an Archer C3 and soon will pick up rank 4. I want a good pvp class.

wat do?
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>>123377348
they must know some secrets that i don't.

i no-lifed it on saturday with my hoplite and got to 86 in a little over 4 hours.
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>>123377418
scout > rogue > rogue

scout for cloaking and rogue for backstabbing
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>>123377459

No one kills her ever, she must have shit drops. There is even 2 of them at all times fucking with prison grind.
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>>123377616
Shit drops. Shit mechanics. AoE is over the top.
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>>123377274
Not them, and they're wrong in saying one level is equal to five new levels but
>Sorc 2 gives no new skills whatsoever and only lets you toy with 15 points again
>The Int/SPR scaling is 1.3 for level 10 Summoning
>You get this without having a superior tank
>You will not have Necro's Decay which reduces the target's maximum HP, which Shoggoth has a guaranteed application of for a while after being summoned, including on bosses
>You will not have Corpse Tower's damage output alongside your Shoggoth, summon, your own attacks, familiars, Salamion and Skull Soldier(s)

Sorc1+Necro1 has more to offer than Sorc 2 does
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Close to Rank 5. Sword C2 Barb C2. Go for Memesair or Doppelsoldner?
Also, would Doppel work with a dual wield build? I don't feel like using Two Handed weapons without the Highlander crit attack passive.
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Underrated goddess.
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>>123377771
doppel is c6
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>>123377298
Why are the buffs so shit? I don't understand. I can always invest on attributes, concentrate alone would give more than 100 damage at LVL 50.
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>>123377602
Have you tested this?
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>>123377772
Not lewd enough.
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>>123377298
>zalciai
But it actually scales unlike blessing
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>>123376180
Last time i checked Necro's summons had terrible AI.
Also lv5 summon attack is 0.8x INT
lv10 is 1.3x INT, that is additional 50% damage from INT, it's x% increase so in future it will get stronger.

Anyone can provide webms/vids of necro? I know we had one guy with summ1/necro1.
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>>123377772
are the goddess virgins?
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>>123377839
you don't need extra level on the skills for the attributes though
and 100 isn't that hot of a shit later.
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>>123377815
Oh yeah I know that. uhh.. would taking barbarian to C3 with no highlander passive be ok for a doppel?
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>>123377714
What would you take before summoner and necro?
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>>123377958

Vakarine is. she's will give her purity to the first level 600 revelator.
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>>123373895
When you switch out of Spear to Rapier, you will lose Finestra. So you'd only benefit from Spear Lunge or Finestra, but not both at once.

If this sounds alright to you then there aren't any other issues.
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Cleric x2>Krivis>Sadhu x2>Druid

or

Cleric>Krivis x2>Sadhu x2>Druid?
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>>123378309
Well that's shit, guess I'll go with barbarian c3.
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>>123377942
>tfw no summoning attribute
>necro has an attribute for shaggy
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I don't feel like doing anything at all.
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>>123378174
Whatever playstyle you want to toy with. Just know that Thaumaturge's only synergy with the classes comes from Familiar, Flesh Cannon and the Int buff prior to summoning your cards and Salamion. It and Elementalist are the two wizard classes with the least synergy when in the same build as either class and they're what you'd want someone else in the party to be

>>123378423
Necro not only has an Enhance attribute, but a chance of summoning an enlarged Shoggoth which is double the HP of a regular Shoggoth
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>>123377714
>/tosg/ theoretic department expert opinion
Here I will name 1 reason why necro and its circus gets btfo.
1 beta maxed full int templeshooter abilty is enough to kill any pack of dungeon mobs and is an overkill if linked, you can use it every 30 seconds.
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Leveling a barblander sure is fast, but I feel like I'm really mismatched for the class. Barbarian doesn't suit my playstyle at all so I'm going to reroll.

Will this build work /tosg/?

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/hizc1hgztl/

Take pyro for early game, linker is mandatory, thaumaturge for synergy with linker, and sorcerer for fun. However I don't know if 2 ranks in sorcerer is worth it and what skills I should take.
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>>123378414
>>123378043
Unless there are (better) alternatives
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>>123378540
congrats, you can do that same thing with level 5. Except you overkill because Shoggoth just decayed everything in its vicinity
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>>123378423

you don't need since you can feed cards to your shooter.

and talking about shooter, i hope they nerf him a little bit and buff the others to make them a little more interesting. like having a card for each situation
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>>123377714
this may not be relevant for this specific cbt but I feel the need to mention that all sorc skills were moved to c1 for testing, so in the future there may be a bigger difference between sorc c1 and c2
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>>123378492
Azai Gonzou best dad.
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>>123377848
no but at rank 4 you have wugushi and scout.

it seems like wugushi is a good option because of the poison but your opponent can just use 0 cd antidote.

That leaves you to Scout.

and then at Rank 5, you have Rogue and Fletcher. I recommend going all the way to Rogue 2 at Rank 6 for Backstab.

With meme Karacha set, you can easily hit 40k per backstab. That is one hit kill on any person and you can use it twice with 10sec cd.
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>>123378540
I don't understand how that makes taking sorc c2 good when you can do that in C1 and have Necro debuffs on everything for higher overkills
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>>123378613
>>123378721
Proof. And show that awesome pet control.
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>>123378683
He really is a man among men.

His death still leaves me empty inside.
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No pet yet.
Considering blowing some money on that just for the hell of it.

Any differences between them if you don't have a class that makes use of them?
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>>123378626
>buff the others
I want to farm with mummyghast pulling everything around him into my firegrounds.
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>>123378758
>Awesome pet control
>When the game lets Templeshooter miss whatever it wants or target a boss's traps
What are you even trying to do in this conversation?
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>>123378808
You can actually get one for free, check and see if you have a coupon thing in your quest items.
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>>123378912
Huh? Never noticed.
Lemme check.
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Throneweaver is the best looking boss.
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>>123378626
>you don't need since you can feed cards to your shooter
You feed the cards to shoggoth too

>>123378983
I love riding on him.
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>there are people right at this very moment, in this very thread, playing with a controller
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>>123378758
>Proof.

right after you prove your statement.
oh wait
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>>123378969
Only realized it myself the other day. Some of them even give stats.
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Any of you guys have a spare beta account ?
I'm dying to play it but missed the chances to register.
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>>123378859
>Awesome pet control
They need to fix the pet controll for joypad. UI's overlaping.
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>>123379078
Works better for swordsman classes and allows you to sit if you can't already. Controllers are surprisingly good and this is coming from someone that hates them.
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>>123378859
Too bad for you.
>>123379131
I asked it first.

Also you are welcome to find a way and try to outdps me. I will blow you away.
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>>123378912
>>123379168

Hardeeharhar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnH5BGfrV7o
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>>123379078
Controllers are comfiest, but need some tweaking/keybinding.
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>want to do demon prison
>there are already groups, mostly already full controlling pretty much both channels
why are there only two channels there? Fuck, I just want to solo and feel the thrill of almost dying to the mobs because I'm made of glass
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>>123379078
The game was designed for controllers. People who aren't using them are gimping themselves with broken extra supported controls thrown on as an afterthought.
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>>123379348
>complaining when there are two whole channels and double exp
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>>123379308
>asked it first.

doesn't matter
burden of proof is on whoever makes their retarded claim first.

either way you're not going to prove shit and neither am I, so I don't bother responding.
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>>123379427
I'm surprised the game doesn't dynamically allocate channels based on zone population, because it damn well should.
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>>123377772
>underrated
>literal cunt who gets you to kill demonbro for a few xp cards
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>>123379308
Have you even used attack ground? It's awful.
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>>123379526
She'll reward you with mad pussy in the end, I swear.
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>>123376171
>>123376546

Restrain is not even 1 second, it is like half a second, barely an interrupt. And when everyone is just running and jumping away from you, it is useless. You need hard CC if you want to PvP.
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>>123379308
Not that guy but i have seen a templeshooter doing 5k per crit, can necro really outdamage that?
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>>123379337
wasn't screwin with you, maybe you just haven't done the mission yet that gives it to you but it is a quest item and I've gone through two so far.
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>>123376194
Is this a good sorc card before temple shooter or something? I have one, guess I'll save it
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>>123379374
How do you browse the inventory with a controller?
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>>123379702
Its 10k. It fires from both hands. And its not even ability.
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>>123379662
Restrain is surprisingly great in PVE, because it interrupts those fucking spin attacks. It's not a PVP skill by any stretch.
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>>123377714
This is only because it's a beta test and they didn't properly distribute sorcerer skills among circles yet.
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>>123379702
Sure it can.

With 5 in summoning you're looking at 3-3.5k crits on templeshooter.

In addition, your shoggoth hits for 1300 (at level 1), you have the 5 skeletons hitting for ~900 each, and then corpse tower or flesh hoop depending on how your tastes roll. In ADDITION to all of that, you get decay on the shoggoth which is an insanely good debuff.
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>>123376638
Sadhu with possession and Zaibas and mostly monks and the mage class that can throw in a 12 sec sleep.

Like this guy >>123376546 said, hoplite is for pve if you want to go pvpve at least you go BRarbarian cause half of their skills stun far longer than restrain.
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>>123379509
>burden of proof is on whoever makes their retarded claim first.
>Necro gives you more damage output than sorc2 does.
Thats on you then. You wont even summon anything until you have KILLED mobs first and GATHERED corpses, faggot.
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>>123380043
And you have never, ever played the class. I'm glad you just confirmed it by not realizing you BUY CORPSES
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>>123379846
I don't know, but I know the game didn't have mouse support at first. I assume it's like browsing the menus in more typical RPGs.
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>>123377839

>implying you will have max concentrate at level 50

That shit takes years to max out, and you won't have to money to max it at level 50 when you start from zero.

Sword2 is literal trash.
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I don't know how to make money, what's a good place to grind for some?
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>>123380043
Still waiting. :^)
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>>123380108
Ofcourse not, I'm playing with one. And he is shit.
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>>123380210
Uh-huh
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>>123379923

imo u can do 4k crits with summoning 5. how's your int? u got the +49 boots?

decay alone + lvl 5 summon > summoned lvl 10 for dps, u don't even need to add the other skills in the mix.
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>>123380279
>>123380207
>T rated for teens
Forgot where I am.
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>>123380359
>You wont even summon anything until you have KILLED mobs
I mean if people want to say stupid things, they should give warning they're going to say stupid things
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>>123379846
R1 + Start opens UI mode, you can just move the mouse cursor and click around in the inventory.
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>>123379337
I dont know about that either but classes with pets get them for free.
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>>123380493
>>123380210
Right back at you kiddo.
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>>123380359
>can summon all kinds of cool things as necro
>still rather suck on templeshooter cock forever instead of a whole group of summons
why are you so gay anon
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>You can jump during sleep
IMC please.
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>>123380575
A sorc+Necro has actually played Sorc. A Sorc2 has not touched Necro.
>I'm playing with this one person and the class is shit because I said so
The moment you say something like kills being required to summon is the moment you lose credibility because you actually have no idea about anything regarding the class. You're just trying to use someone you supposedly party with as an example.
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>>123380132
HOLY SHIT you guys are insistent. I guess I have no choice then, I'll roll pelt. T-thanks.
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Lets finish it this way since you're fucking children. You find how to measure our dps and I will beat you at it. Until then you're /tosg/ cocksucker theoritists.
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>>123380691
>Getting gangbanged by necro summons while taking temple shooter's two crossbows
>"I-I'm not gay... y-you are!"
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>>123380867
What are you even here for, reddit?
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>>123380867
>theorists
It's funny because that's what you proved yourself to be. You have never touched the class, yet you pre-judge it
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>>123380867
Speedrun party mission solo, go ahead.
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>>123380968
Have you played socr 2? No? Why are you talking to me then?
>>123380986
Which one?
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>>123381049
any
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>>123380829
Why then that makes lolipantsu expert in everything!
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>>123381209
Name one, clown. I've been soloing dungeons here while you were still a fucking wizard.
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>>123381360
Just choose one you indecisive twat, I'll beat your time anyday.
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>>123378548

Please send help!
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>>123381442
Why the hell cant you name one? You are the one who offered it.
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i want reddit to leave
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>Hey Revelator! Tell that guy over there that I don't like him!
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>>123381360
damn, Kirito rolled a mage class in ToS.
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>>123378367
What's the point of sadhu 2?
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>>123378548
>>123381501

So what is your playstyle? How do you expect people to help when you give no information as to what you are looking for in your build?
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>>123381618
Being more ofa fucking faggot than you are already.
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>>123381561
Fine, go do seven hues.
I was giving you the choice since you'll probably need the handicap =^)
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>party members start kissing right in front of you
Why! Why is that allowed!
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>>123381576
hey, that's the best kind of quest.
free exp card.
now when you have to get someone's bag things get hard.
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>>123381680
I was already playing by your retarded offered rules since it wont even be pure dps. You couldnt offered just to kill a boss because you would lose.
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>>123381980
that mission is literally boss -> walk -> kill some mobs -> walk -> boss

quit bitching and get to it
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What are all the mob colors and what do they do?
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>>123378492
what's your most fun build?
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>>123381759
Say no to public indecency.
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I dont even know this game but i like the cute pictures, post more cute characters.
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>BT tries to ks the only one monster I'm killing in demon 2

Really? These fucking subhumans will even try to ks the only one monster I'm trying to kill and he has a party with him.
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>>123382874
cute-o-mancer is cute!
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>>123382471
To clarify, I mean special flashing colors. Like the white ones.

Also are you supposed to be able to get gems outside of dungeons?
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>>123382472
Probably stacking cons on a tank and feeling immortal, but to tell ya the truth everything gets old fast.
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Do Monster Gems give tons of Gem Exp or something?
I've never gotten one but I see others buy, from my perspective, useless ones in shout all the time.
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Anyone on Laima want to do the 190 dungeon?
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>>123382891
There's a fucking group of these subhuman shitlords on laima called fourtwenty that are maximum autists.

Couldn't even KS me without having 3 of them to stop me so they all 5 went in to steal my room I was soloing.

I watched them do this same shit on others, worse part is that they're fucking stupid slow at leveling. I wasn't finding parties so I was taking breaks after every hour or so of demon prison (1lvl/hr~ish), and these fucks took 4 days to leave 1st demon prison.
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>>123383237
yes it'll instantly boost a gem to 5 stars if you use one
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>>123383286
Damn, that's pretty good.
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>>123383237
It's pretty fucking intense to use, that said you would still need hundreds or thousands of these to reach a lvl 10 gem.
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>>123380350
I don't have the boots awakened yet. Can't find an alchemist :(
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>>123383384
I have like 5 cross character, I'm saving them until I can find something I want to actually buy in this game.
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>>123382670
>peltasta
You are the public indecency.
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>>123382670
>NTR in ToS
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>>123383604
TFW THE FUCKING BITCH THAT I GAVE MY FIRST KISS TO AND ADDS ME ON STEAM MADE ME BLUSH RED IRL AND THEN NTR'D ME THE NEXT DAY!
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>>123383252

Shit I forgot there was one, where was it again?
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>>123383862
mage tower entrance, on fedimian suburbs iirc
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>>123383862
Just outside Mage Tower
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Anyone doing awakening services in Laima? I want to try the dream set and roll for necro instead of alch.
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>>123384267
How much?
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>>123383850
>blush red irl from pixelkissu
Best feeling
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>>123384336
A high5
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How do you guys distribute points in Necro?
5 in skeles, 5 shoggoth, 1 hoop, 1 disinter, 1 gather, 1 tower, 1 cannon?
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>>123381580
>Kirito rolls a Wizard
>He proceeds to use a Sword
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>>123384425
Oy vey, you think high fives don't pay the bills goyim?
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>>123383252
nick?
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>>123384336
First time looking for it, how much I'm supposed to pay for 4 pieces plus arde dagger?
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>>123384503
>Wizard Blade
>>
What's the most amount of crystals you can feed into the Crystal Mine Lot machine?
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>>123384612
CuteMaids, we're sitting outside Mage Tower and spamming Shout Chat.
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>>123384456
5 in shoggoth, 5 in skel, 5 in either tower or hoop
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>>123384879
Isn't Cannon insane on bosses though?
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>>123384509
I don't speak hebrew . How much is a cube/string amulet worth?
>>
Archer C2 or Ranger C1 for Hunter>Falconer?
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>>123384793
aren't you 200 already?
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>>123384642
100
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>>123384879
No skills for corpse gathering?
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>>123385061
what isn't already insane on bosses desu? I'm still killing bosses with fricken Cure and Zaibas in Demon Prison because I don't have time to use my other spells.
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>>123385147
You purchase corpses from the master.
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>>123385123
Thank you, I was curious if there was some rare 1000 crystal gem but I didn't want to farm that many.
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>>123379078
but the controller is literally god tier for any melee classes. mouse/keyboard for UI interaction tho of course.

the only key bind i would change is allow L3 to toggle sprint instead of hitting the stick twice in a direction. R3 can be weapon swap and "ctrl lock on" can go to hell cause who the fuck even uses that?
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>>123377616
>>123377710
Ans she bugs a fucking lot too
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>>123385243
even if there is, what would you even use it for?
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>>123385268
I use Keyboard board and turn my controller into a Keyboard. This way I can map it the way I want, like having Out of Body on L3 and having Pravirti on Right stick flick, I'm like fricken spiderman.
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>>123377714
Salamion is pretty useless
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>>123385410
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>>123385096
nope, just got 190 today come join us :O
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>>123385541
Out of Body level 10 goes off screen, it's pretty funny how far I can fling my body. I would like to see how far level 15 goes but it's probably better for me to go Druid
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Quick!
Who /cute/ here!
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>>123385205
All the other options for Necro aren't exactly amazing mobbing tools either. I'd rather kill bosses faster than get skills you won't use anywhere
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>>123383589
Blame the Peltasta master.
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>>123385717
hey
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>>123385717
What are you even asking? Everything is cute in this game. It's near-impossible to not be cute. Or are you calling out to some secret circlejerk? Explain yourself.
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>>123385234
>You purchase corpses from the master
I wont comment on why is he even selling corpses, but won't even 1 point in disinter let you farm/grind without need to go back for corpses?

>>123385061
Can anyone make webm of Cannon in bossfight? With memeset and its multiple hits it should wreck the shit out of any boss.
>>
>Link 5 mobs together
>Hangman
>Swell body them all
>AoE
>Loot explodes all over the screen

Yes
Yeeeeees
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>>123386109
>Everything is cute in this game
I disagree. While PC and NPC are cute, the monsters are damn ugly, i haven't seen even one tit on any mob, let alone two tits.
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>>123386109
You can look cute. You might even act cute.

But are you CUTE?
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>>123386246
tfw no winged frog pet
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>>123386246
S-S-Shut the fuck up
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>>123386219
>[Slide whistle noises]
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>>123386246
Popolions are cute.
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>>123386341
Piggy pet confirmed in files.
Alpaka pet confirmed in files.
Red Panda (lesserpanda) pet confirmed in files
Hawk alternative (Raffly and Owl?) confirmed in files

No winged frog though
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>doing the gale plateau mission solo
>killed biter regina
>killed chapparition
>killed these panto totems
>protected the paladin symbol
>killed the huge poison doll shit
>took 50% of the big tree boss who summons bird
>lag a little bit
>one shoted
>mission is over

i'm done for today
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>>123386431
I want to fuck a Kepa.
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>>123386219
>white mob
>swell body
>kill it
>drops fucking nothing

Really, IMC got me this time. Monstrance does the same shit no?

>>123386321
he's acute

>>123386364
>tfw no lamia pet to bully
How are you gonna deal with that?

>>123386431
Yes they look cute when they explode after death.
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>>123386246
slimes and shaman dolls are qt
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>>123386246
Succubus had tits and she was kinda cute cause she didn't have enough lewd compared to the goddesses, like she was a succubus in training, like "D-Did I get it rig- why aren't you falling for me revelator?! Tch. I'll just have to get rid of you with power"
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>>123386246
Succubus have two tits and a whip, son
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>>123386125
The corpse gathering skills all fucking blow, you only get 1-3 back at a time
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>>123386416
I've gotten 4 recipes from one pack of mobs like this. It makes me moist.

>>123386590
Don't mess with the special mobs anon. They're just for the beta I think so they probably aren't the most well tested things. Don't get greedy.
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>Try my necro again.
>Use ice wall
>Those stupid pets hit my ice wall and don't even trigger the shards

This fucking class.
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>>123386721
If they were just for beta they wouldn't be so rare.
They're an actual mechanic.
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>>123383261
I'm also in Laima. Good thing one of the people are here and was leveling so I asked him to party and we got a party going on now. Sorc + temple shooter and linker is OP
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>>123386575
>play full CON autoattack priest
>Ironbaum
>just stand in place and hold attack button
>take his firebreath in the face
>twice
>left with 2k hp, out of 20k
I'm getting too lazy.
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>>123386125
>I wont comment on why is he even selling corpses
you used to have to gather corpses for Necromancer, you had to kill certain monsters for certain corpses, it made most of your skills useless so IMC did the right thing and just combined all the corse types + sold you corpses. They never fixed the corpse gathering mechanic though
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WAKE ME UP
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>>123386764
Good to know, guess i'll roll pyro3 or pyrolinker instead of cryo.
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>>123386948
CANT WAKE UP fricken useless spell
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>>123386246
>i haven't seen even one tit on any mob, let alone two tits.
Go back to the constructor chapel and take a close look at the earth spectra. Use that camera mod if you have it.
>>
Anyone for lv 130 dungeon on Gabija?
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>>123387143
What is this camera mod?
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>>123387280
Where did you learn the float spell from?
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>>123387280
WHO IS THIS SEMEN DEMON
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>>123386219
>Do this
>Two bloodstones pop out
>They sell for 100k on the auction

Oh, I had to rebuy them from the vendor when I noticed. Anyone need these?
Also do I just vendor Talt? With all the talk about them here I feel like they do something
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>>123386821
I-I'm also a pyrolinker, let me level with you too sometime, please... it's not like I'm tired of assholes KSing me or anything and sorc keeps all baddies away.
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I'm a priest (job13) in doubt between +100 crit attack for maybe 200 extra damage on crit hits (20~35% prob) or constant +81 holy dmg on AA (27/hit). Basicaly Velniup +5 or +5 valtas and also the effects on gear set, because I don't expect AA everything as I'm doing now and prob double punch everything, then maybe cafrisun wouldn't be decent on leveling.
I checked the archives and there was people recommending a elemental dmg set (from awakening) instead of cafrisun. That leads me to question myself if that would be good or a if a stamina set wouldn't be better. I could use Earth plate set for +25 stamina (10 from 3 pieces and +15 from boots) and Riena plate for +10. And even then, if any of these would be better than vubbe and rokas for the str/dex bonus, that also allow a stamina boot to be use (+10~15) + any pants. Even more, if I should really drop leather armor passive or just invest in plate for that little stamina bonus.
Can anybody help me out here? I'm really lost.
>>
>>123386948
before you go go

>>123386906
Hey, HEY Revelator! Wanna buy some fresh corpses?!

>>123387280
Wow a slut and a cuti...
>shitty wep
whatever
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>>123387368
Right now they are just vendor and/or gem fodder
>>
>>123387368
Make an alchemist and use the mega talt recipe
>>
Where can I find Cemetery Golem?
It is a lv 82 monster.
>>
>>123387471
You can power up gems with things other than gems? Oh well shit. What else can I put in these things?
>>
>>123387280

sorceress are so ugly. fast, remove this crappy costume.
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>>123387550
Literally everything
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>>123387307
see
>>123387280

>>123387319
Technically, the one in front could have Float. I wonder if it works on players in PVP.
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>>123387394
Cafrisun is superior to elemental damage gear if you use autoattacks only, if you use smite/punch, cafrisun does not work.
Also get Velniup and five hammer +arde dagger.

I am priest 3 and i kinda regret it. Priest 2 is amazing but 3 adds just little damage and one semigood skill, stoneskin. I'd rather want priest2/rivis1 than priest3.
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>>123387585
Oh well fuck. Thanks

>>123387491
Sometimes I can't tell if you're joking, /tosg/
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Somebody memeshout a picture of a goddess on Gabija please. I need to test something.
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>>123387550
>What else can I put in these things
Put your dick in it
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>>123387781
Look at that cutester
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>>123387394
well at some point you're gonna go Monk I assume, and when you're a Monk you'll stop using auto attacks and instead just double pawnch everything. Cafrisun does nothing for you at that point.
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>>123387379
Got a full party right now and going to do some stuff in a bit so I might not stay for too long. My name is really easy to remember it's Autobots, just message me or something.
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>blue pawndel
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>when you hit that 186 reset
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>>123388659
Why does experience reset like that at 86 and 186?
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>>123388743
resets at 136 too
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>>123388478

>cloth armor
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>>123388743
I honestly have no idea why we have EXP resets but I'm not complaining
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>>123388743
to give you that feel-good notion before throwing you back into the grind
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>>123388743
this would actually be great game design if it happened at the deadzone around 170 but no
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If I get Summon Familiar to lv3 to pick up the Hasten trait and then respec and lower it to 2 so I only get AoE Ratio and SP Buffs, will it keep the Hasten trait active?
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>>123389151
None of the resets happen at "dead" zones. It's pretty dumb. Yeah, yeah, I know that aren't any real dead zones before 150-170.
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>>123389226
yes, it's Summon Servant though*
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Anyone got a way to clean up the botters in Grand Corridor in Gabija? They're sitting in a decent spot for grinding stoulet hearts and exp, which I was planning on doing for a little bit. It's Veinika Altar on the Grand Corridor map and I only have a blue kepa orb, so I can't do shit about it.
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>>123387781
I want to cuddle with HoneyBingo.
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>>123387972
Yeah, I guess you're right.
Would be rewarding go full/half plate for passive bonus and stamina set or just mix 3 leather+plate (riena plate for +10sta)?
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>>123389429
>he doesn't have a red harugal orb
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>>123389151
They just need to add more spawns to the areas around that level.

Uskis ARable Land

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST THAT MAP
>MFW I GET THERE
>MFW KILL STUFF NEARBY
>MFW WALK ACROSS THE FUCKING MAP TO GET 5 KILLS
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>>123387781
See that purple powder? It adds like 3k XP.
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>>123389448
pls
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>>123389619
Please cuddle with me?
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>>123389571
Ya I noticed. Was pretty nice. Does this work the same for cards? I probably should have saved most of these materials for those for when I hit sorc/necro. Oh well.
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>>123389726
>Does this work the same for cards?
Sadly no.
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>>123387781

beware of waht you're feeding to these gems. sometimes is better to sell them no the market or finish some recipes
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I used to play Ragnarok a lot, and even tried leveling a thief on iRO Classic yesterday (before being disheartened at the sight of Prontera and leaving.) Any chance this game could scratch my RO itch?
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>>123383252
waiting for healer for 190
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>>123389978
probably not, it's more like diablo.

unless the artstyle is enough for you
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>>123384630
S-senpai?
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>>123389978
Probably not it's very different.

I'd just suggest a lowrate/midrate RO server to scratch it and try ToS if you think it's your cup of joe after.
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>>123389778
Alright, so I can only feed cards to cards?

>>123389895
It'll all be wiped relatively soon anyway. I'm not too concerned with the long term.
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>>123389978
It's pretty different desu.
Also, cards are completely useless for most people in this game.
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>>123390686
I guess the card system in RO is more comparable to monster gems here, except they are also mostly useless.
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Do you think the developers meant for kissing to happen?
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>>123390964
you tell me senpai
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>>123390524
>Alright, so I can only feed cards to cards?

Yes
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What does a cryokino class progression look like after Wiz > Cryo > Kino?
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>>123391536
2 more Circles in Cryo with whatever you want for Rank 6.
There's no point in taking any Cryo at all if you don't get it to C3.
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>>123391536

i went to cryo c3. going for sorcerer or alchemist r6
you can go linker -> sorcerer
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>See some Falconer running around
>meh doesn't look very interes-
>His falcon swoops down and picks him up
>Proceeds to fly around shooting mobs

That's pretty fucking sugoi senpai
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>>123391720
>>123391871

is Cryo "competitive" at all or is it just a "I don't want to play Pyro" thing?

Does the Icewall Psychic Pressure combo scale with m.atk?

Is Cryo fun?
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>>123392063
Ice pike is stronk, and it does synergize well because you can freeze the mobs after you hangman them, assuming you're going linker, which you are. The damage isn't as high but it's still pretty good. C1 is perfectly fine, C2 is garbage, C3 is pretty good.
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>>123392231
So Psycho and Linker are a requirement?

That leaves no rank for going Alchemist.
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>>123392431
Wizard -> Cryo -> Linker -> Psychokino > Sorc > Alchemist
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>>123384635
good for priests
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>>123390892
if monster gems let you use other classes skills it could get C-C-CRAZY but they dont
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Oh god I just realized Backstab counts as one hit. I have so many #1 damage hits on monsters and I never realized.
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>>123392510

>>123391720
>There's no point in taking any Cryo at all if you don't get it to C3
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>>123392595

>>123392231
>C1 is perfectly fine
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If I use stabbing with a Kiritosair, will it stab with both weapons each attack?
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>>123392510
This is Lolipantsu levels of retardation, anon.
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Daily reminder that whoever has any rank of linker is a pleb and cancer.
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>>123392063
It's strong, but doesn't have nearly as much damage output as Pyro. The problem with Cryo C3 is that it doesn't synergize with Linker at all. Your C3 skills, which are honestly the strongest and most interesting part of the Cryo kit, are basically lackluster Linker alternatives.
Basically you either go all out C3 Cryo /w Psycho and your pick for the final class or you don't take Cryo at all and throw Linker in there somewhere. Going only C1 into Cryo is pretty much a waste since none of the skills you get from it are worthwhile compared to what other classes can do.
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>>123392661
It is, what's wrong with C1? You have a single target spell with CC that does okay damage and has 3x overheat. A very solid AoE line that does good damage and freezes, even hits 5 times on bosses. Ice wall which has plenty of uses and lots of synergy with other classes. Also that shit move no one uses.
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>>123392547
Are thre any weapons that have stuff like "chance to use x skill on hit" or things like that? They'd be pretty good if you could put monster gems in them and level that skill up.
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>>123392063

yes, but u need to gitgud, son. you're not going to faceroll things like pyrolinker, but your potential to be awesome is there. psychic pressure alone is good, with the icewall is godly, ice pike is good and ice bolt is ok, you may feel the pain when u hit c2 cryo since it's a long way to c3 cryo (lvl 17) but oh god, it's feels good.

also, your potential do solo bosses and etc is wonderful. once u hit cryo c3 you'll have a good rotation of spells to grind. snowrolling > pressure wall > bolt + pike > pressure > snowrolling > repeat...
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>>123392776
it just werks
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>>123393172
Would waifu.
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>>123393172
LoliPantsu levels of answer, too.
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What's the music that plays while you fight Fire Lord?
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>>123393172
that is not a Future-Proof™ approved build anon
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>>123393552
how does he even kill anything?
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>>123392805
>anything that's strong or viable is cancer

Enjoy your gimped classes anon.
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>>123393112

oh and yes, it scales with your matk and all the + elemental dmg bullshit, aim for a memeset, lots of int and u are golden.
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>>123393172
>j-jack of all t-trades!
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What's a good route for swordsman?

Did swordsman -> highlander -> highlander -> ???
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>being afraid of weebshit in a weeb game

Which cesspool did these dickwads crawl out from? I want normalfaggots to leave.
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>>123393754
Start over

Sword -> Pelt/Sword -> Barb2 -> whatever
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>>123392231
>C2 is garbage
C2 is literally the stronger version of C1.

Don't get me wrong, it is garbage, but you are getting the idea wrong.
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>>123393686
if I had a chance desu, I would reset to Cryomancer C3 into Sorc. It's just that this build is so easy to level up and this was my very first character.
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>>123392805
Excuse me while I bunch up the whole room then double the experience and drops I get from them. Excuse me while linker makes it possible for me to kill swollen enemies in time
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>>123392005
For 20 seconds every 2 minutes or some shit like that, not that great.
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>>123393754
Swordsman is just a meme, above level 170 and you'll wish you had leveled a monk or sadhu instead.
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>>123392005
>Proceeds to fly around shooting mobs
it's literally a less bad version of Kneeling Shot
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>>123392850
C1 cryo skills will be almost useless at level 200, except for maybe ice wall.
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>>123393824
Can I not do this similar to the skill and point reset potions?

I'm not playing a swordsman all over again, I'd rather just play an entire new class.
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>>123393838
>>123393590
>bla bla bla look what pleb i am
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Why haven't Hoplites become a meme yet?
They seem really strong
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>>123393991
once you get to roxona after the shit maps it just gets easier instead of harder so I doubt that
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>>123393951
>>123394074
Well it looked cool. Not like "wow I'm gonna make a Falconer" cool, but still cool.
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>>123394117
we don't have class reset potions, you're gonna have to redo it if you want a new build. Time for you to make an archer
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1 Pyro C3 Linker C1 Alch
2 Pyro C2 Linker C2 Alch
3 Pyro C1 Linker C3 Alch

1:
Pyro C3 Seems like a waste since Flame Ground has 100% uptime with Pyro C2 and Hell Breath seems underwhelming. So it would be entirely for 5 more ticks of Fireball.
5 enemies can be linked.

2:
100% Uptime on Flame ground, Access to Fire Pillar and 2x 10 Fireball ticks
8 enemies that can be linked and access to Buff sharing with 100% uptime which can be incredibly good depending on group setup.

3: 2x 5 Fireball hits and less than 100% uptime on Fire Ground.
10 enemies can be linked and access to Stat sharing with 50% uptime.


Is it just me or is Pyro C2 Linker C2 the best choice?
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>>123394167
long cooldowns and hard to overkill with
people prefer barb cause they like spamming skills like autismos
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>>123394167
30 and 40 second cooldowns on your only skills, nobody likes using spears because of muh Kirito
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>>123394226
Is my build seriously that bad?

Kinda shitty that games do this. Maybe I should read the games fucking encyclopedia next time.
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>>123394246
Remember that you can use a gem to get 6 links in C1.
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>>123394115

no. pike does 3 hits, just pump your int.
bolt is okish since it's aoe and has 3 charges and don't forget: frozen targets takes something like +20% extra dmg. wall scales infinitely, either with linker, psycho or toy hammer alone.
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>>123394350
well I think you're probably fine, just go Highlander C3 Squire into Doppelsander, screw the haters.

The thing is that we're at the point of cookie cutter builds so everyone is recommending the same shit, which is Peltasa into Barb2 or Hoplite 2 etc. If you like being a Highlander then just roll with it, it's a closed beta anyway, game ends in three weeks, just see how it goes.
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>>123394129
I might be a pleb, but at least I'm not a weak pleb
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Equipment should lose 1 Potential whenever it hits 0 Durability. Gear condition might as well not be a thing when there is almost no punishment for letting it break.

>>123394246
How about something like Pyro C2, Linker C1, Thaum C1?
As Alchemist you will most probably play support and the Thaum buffs would let you bring yet another thing to the table. If you get the monster gem for Joint Penalty you will still get 6 links from C1 in Linker, 2 extra targets and freeing up a gem spot doesn't seem all that worth it to me when you look at what Thaum C1 has instead.
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>>123394350
Squire has a cute outfit, therefore your build is fine.
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>>123393172
>>123393552
Just noticed that wiggy that print this legend too

>>123393586
He doesn't.
wiz 3 is garbage damage tier and he probably fell for the "giving quickcast to my friends!11" meme
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>>123394583
>Equipment should lose 1 Potential whenever it hits 0 Durability

No
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>>123394246
linker 3 is shit, the lifeline buff only applies to 1 member in the party.

Pyro 3 linker 1 is going to be better solo, pyro 2 linker 2 is going to be a bit weaker but more helpful in partys, I'd pick that because I want to be loved, and I'll be handing out pots to everyone so they like me.
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>>123394167

Because it's not that good. Long CDs, only one use of Stab and Pierce and the rest of the time you auto attack.
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Oh look, a blue mob. This will surely propel me into Class level 11.
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anyone have an extra key , or know of a place still handing them out
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>>123394509
Does this mean that I will do highlander for a third time and then advance to squire?

Still pretty new to this game
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>>123394246
If you plan stopping Pyro at C2, you should just go Sorc C1, would make better results than Linker C2.
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>>123394334
I want this meme to end, dual wielding was cool long before muh kirito
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>>123394783
Sick gains senpai
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>>123394852
But Kirito made it extra cool 8)
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>>123394791
g2a has keys going for $7 right now.
That's how much I paid cause I knew I wouldn't get in at a reasonable time before it ended.
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Where in Greene Manor is Druid Ellie?
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>>123394831
Not a fan of Sorc to be honest.

>>123394583
Thaum seems good but the damage might be useless later on. I think it's +358 Attack damage on shrunken enemies? 218 without.
Both the buff sharing and 8 links will always stay relevant.
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>>123394852
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>>123394931
it is really worth paying for it, I assume all progress is going to be wiped
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>>123394852
Kirito is just a ripoff of Drizzt, right? :^)
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>>123394808
yeah, C3 means circle 3, each circle is a rank in the same class, for example right now you're Highlander C2. Of course whatever I just typed I'm not even sure if it works out that well but you can find it for me.

I mean do you like the Highlander so far? The other classes are the spear lines which don't really work out with Highlander C2 in their kit, Corsair wants Barb, so that leaves you with more Highlander and Squire. Squire can repair equipment for yourself and your team, you will be the most beloved guy ever in the 130+ dungeons. And then at rank 6 if you ever get there, you can go Doppelsiender since I think that's the best option.
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>>123395060
I think it's worth it, I've gotten a lot of play time so far so it's justified the price pretty much. Plus you get to try to game out right now instead of waiting. Beta is extended until december 9th so that's another plus.
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>>123395029
Doubling drops, exp, and silver with Swell is always going to stay relevant. Even once you hit level cap you will still always be grinding from drops and money.
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So, what do you guys think?
Should I go another circle into Archer and then Schwarzer Reiter or 2 circle of Rogue?
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>>123395060
if it's like 7 fucking dollars then hell yeah it's worth paying. People were paying 900 dollars for an Overwatch beta key you know. ded game btw
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>>123395029
Buff sharing is much less relevant than you might think. There is basically no situations where you can actually use it unless you have someone that's Krivis C2/3 and keeps up Daino fulltime. It shares a lot of buffs that other classes can't even properly make use of and pushes the actually important ones off the bar
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>>123395316
is the full game free
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>>123395219
I can buy all stuff I need with the shitload of money I make from Alchemist.

>>123395371
What about Daino scrolls though?
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>>123395304
Whatever floats your boat senpai
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>>123395304
>Ranger arguments on /tosg/
not again! I'd say Rogue C2 with the meme xbox/dagger build
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>>123394783
>not overkilling it
>potato as name
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>>123395178
I do like highlander I just kind of feel like I'm not choosing the right skills to level higher than others. I'll go ahead and look up a skill guide for the route I'm going toward, squire seems like a good choice after c3
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>>123395530
arguments are only with the archer 3 retards thou
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>>123395060
it isnt imo. game is clunky and buggy as fuck

maybe if your friends all already have keys
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>>123395405
Yes this is a f2p mmo with no cash shop... so far.
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>>123395651
honestly the only reason I'm dumping so much time into this game is because I have literally nothing else to play for a month.
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How core is hunting/keeping track of field bosses in ToS? I feel like that's where all the silver is being made (and actually good equipments).
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>>123395530
You are my favorite cuteposter.
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>>123395606
>not getting 1600% skill
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>>123395535
I can't overkill.
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>>123395304
>spr
I recommend blue gems. Also, what do you have equipped
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I'm really interested in a Squire build now since I haven't played a two handed swordsman so far and I never had a crafter/merchant character.
Can anybody help me out?

Is Squire C2 good or should I go with something different for Rank6?
Are Squires desired in dungeons?
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>>123395965
The reason I went with 20 spirit was because I capped with lvl 1 alchemy pots and I didn't want to waste money. I couldn't dish out my SP fast enough. Gear is Regina+Arde
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http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/641291/
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Can someone explain me why sorc has a p**sive for sp regen? Is this some sick joke?
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>>123394115
So is everything else from rank 2 you turbo nerd
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>>123396078
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/c2-squire-guide-and-general-feedback-dont-play-squire/118849/13
apparently don't go Squire C2. Squires arent really "desired" as in nobody will be like LFM Squire but you will always wish you had one when your gear breaks which it fucking will.

Go DoppelSoeldner at Rank 6, it has crazy DPS with Cyclone.
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>>123395026
Top of entrance from The aqueduc zone.
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>>123396363
Once you invest some money into it you restore SP so quickly. The neko's sp regen is crazy good on its own already and if you stack some sp regen you can go from 0 to full in a matter of seconds
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>hit lvl 50
>no one doing dungeon
ded game
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>>123383459
>:(
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>>123396363
It kinda makes it easier to make up for the summon's drain when you despawn it and you're chilling out of combat for a bit
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>>123396363
because sorcs need low spr to use their skills efficiently, the passive lets them make up for the lost sp regen of having low spr
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Going to try this build. I don't know if it would work or something trying to be tanky in this game.
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>>123396213
What about clothes
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>>123396795
At this point I usually take whatever gives dex and str.
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>>123396452
>sword into squire
It's a wonder how he didn't quit after sword c2
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For the people who wanted confirmation, here's Growling working on a Field Boss.

And yes, it worked and he did nothing but stand there and take damage.
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>>123397000
Swordie C2 is officially a memebuild right?
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>>123397039
That boss gets bugged all the time though even without your heavenly influence, assfaggot.
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Does higher levels in Jolly Roger increase the chance to pillage?
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>>123396452
>I've been playing C3 Swordman C1 Cataphract C2 Squire

EVERY

FUCKING

TIME
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>>123397039
>3752 hp
Enjoy your time in prison
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>>123397298
I didn't notice any difference at level 5.
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>>123396452
is this a joke?
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>>123396452
>that build
>CBT feedback

> Kill Stealing

>Kill stealing is currently a feature of the game and full exp is given to the person who deals the last hit,

Disregard everything this guy says
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Anyone else here got to Necro? How are you finding it? Specifically Flesh Cannon. I only have it at level 1 for now, the cast time kinda puts me off. How's Corpse Tower anyway? Every single other Necro I've seen has it, but muh shoggoth and muh skeletons
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>>123393838
You might be swole but you're still a faggot.
>>
On full release there will be gangs of cryos using ice wall to block out large sections of the city. God help us.
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Did the Market eat everything again? There was like ten pages of Wendigo Tooths yesterday and now there's only one
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>>123394693
Partied with lifeline linkers, this is false we all got it.
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What do yellow enemies do? Double drops?
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>>123396452
Corsairs are also nice for a party since Jolly Roger gives a lot of exp bonus.
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>>123397906
Nothing's stopping you from destroying their walls.
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Toy Hammer 10th explosion is that good or people just meme about it?
Fucking 1.5kk.
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>>123398264

>level 18 icewalls with audra and gem

i think they die by duration before u break it
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>>123394353
remember that you can use several lv1 link gems to boost your links to how many you want
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>>123397943
Yes? Some of my stuff that disappeared came back earlier today tho. Except my arde
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>>123398149
What exp bonus? Jolly Roger gives a small damage bonus and a chance to make mobs drop silver and items on hit.
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>>123397954
I don't know who's right, but this is how misinformation spreads. Still going linker C3 though, it's like a superior peltasta
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>>123394246
As a pyroc3 linker1 you are right.
Pyroc3 is overkill for the skill investment.

1: Pyro->Linker->Pyro->Thaum->Alch
2: Pyro->Linker->Linker->Thaum->Alch
3: Pyro->Linker->Pyro->Sorc->Alch
4:Pyro->Linker->Pyro->Linker->Alch
5:Pyro->Linker->Linker->Sorc->Alch
These are the choices I see as viable.

1/2: "I might have to solo" EXP support options
3:"I don't need a party but it's nice"
PLP will do fine, temple will carry you, no problems.
This is probably the strongest option to be honest
4:"I don't want to deal with too many hotkeys"
5:Supporty DPS (Probably best damage you'll get unless Temple Shooter is nerfed while still having the buff sharing and nice links)

It is of note that while Lvl 6 grants an extra link Lvl 11 doesn't, so C1 Linker can gain 1 link from gem, C2 Linker cannot. That said, 10second CC on that short of a cooldown from hangman's is fucking gnarly.
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>>123398403
>release
>gangs of cryos
>gem
haha but no
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>>123398264
Cryo is a rank 2 class. One guy could easily bot 20+ of them and just endlessly chain cast it. Hell, he could even put two layers of wall down. Enjoy.
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>>123398424

ppl have vem report that 2 of the same gems in the weapon only gives +1 skill.

but i don't have info on gems working together if you put one on your weapon and other in your armor/gloves/shoes

maybe it's bugged
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>>123395371
Friendly reminder that the personal shared buffs go over the buff limit and you don't need daino.

Friendly reminder that daino scrolls are actually quite cheap.
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What is toy hammer?
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>>123398486
From what I heard from my party member earlier that had a 3rd party exp program on, we were getting the full 4m exp per hour with a full party and Jolly Roger. Usually in a full party at the current rate you can't get 4m exp per hour at full party.
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>>123398591
>>123398264
I'm playing a pyrokino right now. I couldn't give even a portion of a shit how many ice walls you put down.
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>>123398118
Like a blue mob in terms of the amount of loot and silver you get. I killed one in the demon prison and got nearly a million silver.
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Is there any way to make your summon stop Hold-ing a location or do I really have to guide him along with waymarks
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Stabbing and Pierce's cooldowns are too long. I wish it at least got two uses before overheating
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>>123398804
I use the program too and I'm a C2 corsair. I've never seen any bonus exp. I've gotten 4.5-5 million exp per hour at Second Demon Prison.
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What happened to barblander discussions? Have we all realized that they are completely unnecessary in end level dungeons?
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>>123398697
>Friendly reminder that the personal shared buffs go over the buff limit and you don't need daino.
That's complete bullshit. The only things that don't share and don't count towards the buff limit at the things that appear on the 2nd line of buffs.
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>>123398868
True maybe for pierce, stabbing could use slightly lower CD but overheat would be overkill.
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>>123398591

>20 cryomancer bots with the cryorite attrib lv 5

kek, i can see this kind of shit happening in a pinoy server
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>>123399018
What the fuck is cryorite even for?
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>>123399103
Apparently flooding the ground according to >>123399018

Also selling afterwards, I guess.
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>>123399013
Yeah, maybe just lower CD on stabbing. I just wish I could use it more
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>>123399103

some recipes, also, you can sell it for 60 silver
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>pyro
>supposedly ranged class
>has to cast fireballs directly in front of a mobs face

What am I doing wrong?
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>>123399357
Short answer, yes.
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what do i get at c3 barb besides seism

i've heard giantswing is memey on bosses?
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Reminder to give your kiss virginity to someone special and not a Klaipeda kiss baiter.
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>>123398845
I was wondering about this too but no one answered me senpai
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Does +aoe ratio from equip stacks with skills?
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/scout-cloaking/121556
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>>123399357
>What am I doing wrong?
Not having Linker.
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>>123399013
I don't think overheat on Pierce would be too strong. Its the only decent attack Hoplites have that can overkill some mobs when comboed with Spear Lunge. Two uses for it would feel better for grinding. Stabbing is fine as it is.
Has anyone tested max Throwing Spear much with Geras Spear? I want to know about overkill potential since I only took c2 hoplite.
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>>123399357 this >>123399526 and: place ball near mobs, kick ball into its face
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>>123399357
Cast it and then kick it to the mobs' faces
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>>123399357
Yakyuu my man
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http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/645292
>Crystal Spider Cyrstal
>Cyrstal

>>123399357
You're not leading the mobs to it or hitting the fireball at the mobs from a safe distance.
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>>123399357
you can hit them by pressing "c". The whole mechanism is probably being removing soon, as its only purpose was to generate hype in game trailers
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Did the people with super zoom out shared their wizardry?
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Anyone have an idea what bracelets I should be using on my sorc? Wizard Bracelet is pretty straightforward, but I can't find anything that could fit the second slot
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>>123399958
another wizard bracelet?
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>>123399958
Another Wizard Bracelet
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>>123399958
why not two?
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Does anyone knows the drop rate of a monster gem?
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>>123399958
that is easy another Wizard Bracelet [/spoiler}
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>>123399463
>>123399463
anything besides carter, skull, cleave, and seisem is a waste of your low mana pool
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>>123399760
>The whole mechanism is probably being removing soon, as its only purpose was to generate hype in game trailers

What's the point of baseless conjecture?
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>>123400018
>>123400039
>>123400043
>>123400065
.... oh. You can use the same bracelet twice.
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>>123399507

some skills. tested with my wizard and it works with earthquake and energy bolt but does nothing to psychic pressure and snowrolling
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>Reflect Shield no longer prevents cast interrupt
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>>123398592
my dad works for IMC
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Overleveling the 50dungeon was a mistake. Now I don't get exp from mobs on my next quests
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I want to make a Rodelero.
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>>123400330
just rush through the questline without staying too long in a map. You'll soon reach appropriate enemy levels soon.
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>>123400412

The only good thing about them is spats.

>>123400330

Warning: Meme
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>>123399463
Giant swing can't be used on bosses. It's not worth it because despite the animation it's actually single target damage. Use it too much in dungeons and it pisses off your party members resulting in you getting kicked, has happened to me before.
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>>123400412
I'm working on that too. Not like I have anything better to do.
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>>123400476
>>123400493
I would rush, but I kinda need money for a new weapon soon.
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>>123400298

?
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>>123400279
>>123399507
The AoE ratio only stacks with skills that has anything AoE "number" mentioned.

e.g. Earthquake and Energy bolt are affected but not Fireball/Flame Ground
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>>123400109
alch pots are like 700 silver
sp is not a thing in this game
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>>123399357
Cast fireball, slap fireball into things, link it.

For the most part fuck the official forums, but this guy has a decent video of the idea: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/video-pyromancer-solo-lvl-90-idungeon-historic-site-ruins/119458

for the most part you are right though it's pretty annoying and as such you should invest in some CON, when you reach things like trees at 2nd demo prison knocking fireballs into them becomes harder than you'd expect.
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is the seal of space totem in demon prison 1 bugged? I can't get it to activate
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>get bored of my barbarian
>make a pyro
>is even more boring to repeat the same quests
>realize it'll be the same for every other class

I'm_in_despair.jpg
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>>123399357
You go linker and what you do is you put fireballs down, use joint penalty to connect the fireball to enemies, and then use hangmans to stack it all up. if you do it like that your fireballs will splash damage upon themselves too which further increases their damage. it gets really ridiculous really quickly
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>group with a bunch of BRs
>everything goes smoothly despite having no healer
What is going on?
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>>123400298
Maximum gay.
Also IMC.png
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>>123400298
>>123400606
the new patch broke things again, casts will always be interrupted now unless you have Surespell or something

t. buttblasted Sadhu
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>>123400823
just ignore the quests and grind
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>>123400628
AoE ratio affects Hoplite's Pierce and Spear Lunge and those don't have an AoE ratio listed on them.
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>>123400330
1. Quests quests quests EVERY QUEST
2. Farm Tenet Chapel 2F for a few levels (55-60~ish)
3. Lvl 50 dungeon (5 runs, preferably with 3-4 players 5 is fine if you're shit)
4.QUESTS QUESTS QUESTS EVERY QUESt
You'll fall off on levels before you reach lvl 90 dungeon
5. Constructor's Chapel once you can farm there, if you're a 'place and forget' (Flame ground, Zaibas, Broom Trap, Stakes) type of class get into the rooms ASAP for fat exp if not go to storage with a party or 2F for the event, again witha party
6. FINISH QUESTS/CARD EXP til 90
7. 5 RUNS of lvl 90 dungeon if you can solo it do so, if not try to run with as few as possible, even a 5man guarantees you lvl 98.
8. QUESTS QUESTS QUESTS, DONT SKIP ANY
9. Grind Starving Demon's Way or Kateen or other maps you see with good spawns around this lvl
10. If you fucked up grind Legwyn's
11. Lvl 130 dungeon if you can duo it do so, if not, man fuck this dungeon but do your 2 runs anyway. Then back to fucking grinding
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>>123400628

snowrolling and psychic pressure have that number mentioned.
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>>123401071
12.Grind Penitence or similar areas until 145~
13. Grind Demon Prison until 155~
STOP TO DO FUCKING QUESTS BEFORE YOU OVERLEVEL THE AREA BY 5 LEVELS TO MAKE SURE YOU GET MAX BOSS EXP
14. If you still haven't gotten your '30mil exp' missing from cards (more like 25mil when counting all the boss/killing exp you do for quests...) GRIND 2ND DEMON PRISON (from Shaton Reservoir)
15. Grind til 165 there then go do quests, keep questing, yup, keep going
tada 200.

This guide brought to you by a faggot who's noteven lvl 200 yet, so take it with a huge steaming pile of fucking salt for everything past 13 as it's based solely on tosbase info and info from others at that point.
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>>123400018
>>123400039
>>123400043
>>123400065
you're all fucking bad
wizard bracelet gives 80sp
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>>123401458
...and 32 magic attack
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>>123401071
>>123401309
TL:DR
do all quest. do all dungeons you can
use all cards Lv6 and lower when you get them
save many Lv7 and all Lv8 cards
grind prison at 165 use all L7+8 cards.
do more quests+dungeons. be 200
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>>123401561
magic attack doesn't affect summons scrub
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Eh, I'm bored.

Going to roll a Wiz C3. Any advice? Is Magic Missile still bugged half of the time? Is Energy Bolt decent with maxed attribute?
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>>123401458

yeah, that's the bad part, i wish i could remove this bonus
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>>123401589
All my hardwork, reduced to this.

Apologize!
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>>123401309
>so take it with a huge steaming pile of fucking salt everything past 13

But what the guide says is true though 165~175 is the most horrible part of the leveling if you use all your exp scrolls before it you will be stuck trying to get to 175 for a long time.
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>>123401071
>>123401309
>>123401458
Except this is totally wrong. The 2x combat exp makes it possible for you to skip quests now; e.g. I leveled to around 103 or so from the level 90 dungeon and was able to get to 130 just doing quests in Kateen Forest -> Sunset Flag Forest, Mage Tower, and Demons' Way -> Apsimesti. I was able to skip all of the quests from Stele Road to Fedimian.

Similarly I was able to level to 70 with the 50 dungeon, card to 72 with saved EXP cards, and resume questing again at Akmens Ridge, skipping hours and hours of questing.
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>>123401047
>>123401184
gook engineering
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>>123401620
>Plants Bracelet INT+9
Then stop whining and awaken two of these.
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now that I'm a sapper c3 I don't really care about getting rank6.
I think I'll make a rodelero or sorcerer
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>>123401925

also, if you level psychic pressure past 9, it gets reduced from 5 to 4.
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>>123401793
>>123401589
>>123401309
>>123401071
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>>123401919
Nice stuff, this was mainly talking about pre-2x rates so indeed things have changed a bit.

Unfortunately the lvl 145-165 is still annoying as shit.
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>>123401719
>bored
Going wizard 3 isn't exactly going to solve that
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>>123401458
Thing is, I don't really care about my sp total. I'm Kino C3, so my important costs are percentage
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>>123401919
>skipping quest

those t6 are free exp still.
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Somebody please post an image of an npc in /yell on Gabija.
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>>123402359
First, the quests from Stele Road -> Fedimian give Lv5 EXP cards. Second, quests aren't very interesting the third or fourth time around, and I would rather spend more time in Demon Prison D2 later.
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>>123401719
Wiz 3 is fucking awful.
Magic missile is still bad and energy bolt is still bad.
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>>123401719
C2 and C3 Wiz is slow and weak and boring.
what the fuck u think u doing nigga
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>>123400298
This...isn't true is it?

I suppose it's all good and well I hit rank 6 on my psycho already then.
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>>123402691
IMC did it
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>>123401910
The 175 dungeon gives really shit exp. You may need to grind a bit as well as use your remaining level 8 and 9 cards to get to 190. The exp curve resets at 186 though so really its 175-186 thats another annoying part. Oh also the fact that no one does 190 dungeon because this game is ded.
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>>123399760
May I see it?
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>>123402097
what.. :--DD
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>>123400298
Is this really true?
I'm too lazy to go on my ele to check
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>>123402760
175 dung gave nice exp before exp-event solo
and the 190 gives good solo xp too

saw partys for the 190 at gabi the last days.
more then before. thx to easy lvl event. its not that dead
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Does anyone want to do the level 90 dungeon?
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>>123392805
>cancer
A single circle of linker is pretty damn strong. desu, it should divide damage and have a slightly lower duration and have a slightly lower duration ( 50% at 1-5, 80% at 6-10 and how it normally is rn at 15) desu.
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>>123403057
I think linkers are fine as they are desu.
They're only really useful when dealing with packs of somewhat tanky mobs.
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>>123403015
How does you even solo the 190 dungeon? I got fucking destroyed by the casters when I tried. Doesn't help that I'm a Pyro and can't really kill the guys on the middle path that drain fire damage either
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>>123401987
the character portraits in this game is SO FUCKING DISGUSTING.

jesus christ, it's like a mix of deviantart and some cheap anime knockoff abomination.

why didn't the gooks go for japanese anime style? they draw pretty much every anime for japan anyway.
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Reset again to test this stat build.

Do you guys think this is a decent and viable stat build since as far as I get into the higher levels having 150 meme dex gets shittier and shittier.
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>Demon Prison 4
>mages that do 2.7k homing damage
uhhhh
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>>123403057
I think Linker is actually fairly balanced, the problem is that they outshine every other class available at that rank. Even if you buff those other classes then the person will probably just take linker later because it will enhance those now buffed classes.

The difficulty with balancing Linker is that it scales infinitely. Maybe make it a class you can only get at a higher rank?
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>yesterday
>weapon +8 for 950k
>no money to buy
>today
>weapon +8 for 1.2kk with a shitty name
>with money
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>>123403057
Give linker 1 link per level again

More mobslinked less damage shared but vsmall difference here, this allows the balance of the bonus damage while still making us relevant compared to the stupid amount of mobs peltastas can gather.
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>>123403564
What is this? I'm guessing the distribution of player levels? But I can't read Japanese so I don't know.
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>>123403258
im Pyro,Link and its pretty easy. the usual ball-link combo

the Fire-Heal 'Elet' mobs are annoying, but only a little slow.
they have a blue shining skill, casting looks similar to earthquake. get hit by that = you get heald. use that
i just pull 2. link them. autoattack+energybolt them to dead. slow but easy
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>>123403398
Get used to that.
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>>123403675
>the distribution of player levels?
Yes, on japanese CBT1.
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>>123401987
They went kind of excessive on the character portraits. Like some of them are visible for only one or two times in the entire game. The majority of the demons fit into this category, but also a few just random NPCs and quests have them too. Like does the accessory merchant in Fedimian really need her own illustration? Who uses that npc?
>>
Reminder that linkers are memelanders of this month and should be considered a noob trap.
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>>123403808
nips are confirmed casuals
>>
So is there a general expected price for awakening?

Also, is there some place on the Internet with the ability descriptions in Korean?
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>>123403564
>all of these drop offs at the exp wall

lmao
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>>123403921
Wasn't much different on our iCBT2. People only got 80+ because 2x.
>>
what do people mean when they say dullahan 60/200 and stuff like that?
also he spawns in roxona right
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when the fuck are they going to announce the new classes? it's pointless thinking up builds now cause everything can change come rank 8.
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>sign up for beta 3 weeks ago
>still no key
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>>123404049
I had 3 lvl110s before the double exp, all of my friends hit 95+. All the people that kept playing this game got past 80, everything lower than that are people that quit in the first few weeks
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>+6 Velniup 800k (172~199)
>+7 Velniup 1.1kk (186~213)
>+8 named Holocaust 1.2kk (200~227) + String amulet
Which one?
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Not related but does anyone know how to make simulators like the tosbase or the Ragnarok ones?

I've always wondered this.
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>>123404049
Most people I know stopped around 80 when they fell behind on royal maus levels and would have had to grind
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>>123403284
Their eyes and ears are the only real bad parts.
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>>123404240
That is because you're not a casual, neither your friends.
We are talking about everyone here.
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>>123404149
maybe once the korean obt comes out but I doubt it
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>>123404313
coding?
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Question senpaitachi, can you use skills from other classes by using monster gems?

Or do you have to have that skill already within your class to "upgrade" it.
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>>123404813
no
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>>123404281
Make one yourself.
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>>123404745
We got ourselves a smartass
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>>123404813
When you win a free tire, do you get the car with it?
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>>123404870
>441k on upgrades only to reach +6
>400k recipe
>50k kozuka recipe
I don't think so.
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>>123405003
BUT IT WORKED IN RO
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>>123404186
so when is the next beta invite famz? their site says the current beta ends dec. 10th... what happens after that?
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Check out my new masterpiece senpaitachi
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>>123404313

What do you mean by "how"?
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Any Sadhu here? I got C2 a few hours before the weekly maintenance and I recall Possession not being interrupted by enemy attacks but now it can.
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>>123405410
9/11 would fuck
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>>123405410
Ya did good lad
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>>123405410
bretty gud
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>>123405410
>basic bitch weapon

you fucked up hard, why would you put your waifu in such a worthless item?
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>>123405410
Living weapons when?
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>>123405139
i dont mean to be annoying but why doesnt anyone answer questions about beta access? im just trying to get a grasp on how this game works atm
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>>123405410
Teach me how please.

>>123405878
We Mabinogi now.
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harpeia up on gabija demon prison 2
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>>123398804
>>123398951
Exp viewer working where?
The one I had broke.
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>>123405952
we aren't IMC how could we know what's next?
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>>123406087
Grab it from bitbucket newest version nerd.
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>>123406062
it's been up for like 5 hours, nobody cares about it
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Now that I've run my first instance dungeon as a Hunter C3, I can finally give a better review on the true usefulness of Growling.

The first run was a mess. The pet died for the first time since I made this character, and I realized I was out of food. Without STA, the pet AI becomes really sluggish, making it impossible to make use of anything in my Hunter tree. The healer left shortly after and we had to rush the boss to not lose the instance.

For the second run, I put together a 5 man party, running as lead. I had to, for the first time, acknowledge the pet as an object that had HP and could very well die and become useless in battle. Previously, I had identified that the Glizardons were the ones nuking it. Even at 150+, it was more than enough to kill quite a bit of its life.

I ran ahead of the group, kiting the rat behind me rapidly. Thanks to Praise's movement speed attribute, he doesn't lag behind me while running. I aimed straight at the Glizardons, ordered it to Rush Dog, and immediately triggered Growling. Doing so would instantly bind down the only things that could threaten the rat. I would then stand on top of the now powerless monsters, drawing all the Pawndels to be drawn to me, also becoming paralyzed. After that point, all that was left to do is let the Barbarians in the group spam their skills on the defenseless, grouped up mob.

cont.
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>>123403043
Sorry HoneyBingo I'm capped for today ;_;
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>>123400330

I skipped the Saule quest branch altogether.
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>>123406668
There are a few downsides to the skill, though. The most obvious one is the inability to cancel the skill. Once cast, the rat will stand where it is for the entire duration of 10 minutes. Does not answer to any commands at all. The only other way to break the Growling command is to move about 1 screen away from it, causing it to warp to your current location, and cancelling the status.

The second downside is that Growling doesn't seem to work on Dungeon bosses. Which is surprising, consider it does work on both Quest and Field Bosses, the latter being arguably higher-priority than the Mineloader and/or Harpeia in the 130 dungeon. Perhaps dungeon bosses have a particular tag that makes them immune?

By myself, I couldn't take full advantage of all the possibilities contained on this skill. Even with such tactics, a single hit of one of those monsters took well over half of my pathetic 3.7k HP. My damage output is quite lacking as well, duo to the Companion being not triggering Auto Rush Dog while growling.

The optimal use for this skill would be pairing it with a Peltasta. Using Swashbuckling over a gamebreaking CC such as Growling would quite literally immobilize everything on screen.

As far as DPS goes, Hunter might not hold a candle to a Fletcher or a Wugushi, though still having respectable autonomy with Auto Rush Dog, but as a support, I'd go as far as saying Growling is the single best CC skill in the game so far. Better than the entire Rodelero kit, by far.
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>There's a whole other city

Hot damn

>>123407096
But I spent all my money on bracelets and I want my dagger anon.
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>>123406668
>>123407161

Kek.

This is a long and round-about way to say that it's a shit class. Thanks for your input animufag.
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>>123406630
>farming egnomes on 1f
>harpy spawns on top of me
>call it
>literally one person comes
>don't even aggro it
>spend the next 3 hours solo grinding with a giant bird floating around
>it isn't even aggressive
>>
>>123407551
>Hit field boss once
>Crossing map and it doens't follow
>Traps infront of you every time

Disgusting.
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Is there some convenient list with all of the field/world bosses and their spawn times and locations?

Otherwise I'm going to ask for shout chat to spoon feed me every time.

Google-san also doesn't yield any results.
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>>123407949
fapped to that yesterday
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>>123407995
>fapping to drawings
l m a o
>>
Anybody got some Wendigo Tooth?
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>>123408063
>fapping to 3dpd

I respect your tastes but I must disagree and I have no interests in associating with your kind.
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>>123408237
>>123408063
>Fapping
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Whenever I see someone using the male barbarian costume, my brain automatically assumes that person is either a BR, a 13 year old, unskilled player or simply stupid.

Why is this, anons? Does it happen to you with other classes?
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>>123408063
>not fapping to drawings
>on a south vietnamese drawing forum
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>>123408329
>falling for the masturbation is bad meme

I bet you're religious too.
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>>123408470
2007 memes are back
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>>123408470
>not fapping to cambodian childrens' cave scribbles
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>>123408387
female barbarians/highlanders are no better.
actually, they KS more.
>>
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Missed these
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>>123408387
I've been using the female barb costume until recently discovering how charming and cute the default swordsman costume was.
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>>123408586

shiggy diggy is 2010 at best
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>>123408586
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>>123408387
That happens to me with everyone regardless of class.

I always have to move or change channels.
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>>123408387
If you give up panties for a male costume you fucked up.
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>>123408387

whenever i see one of those or a memelander, i always assume they are some kiritowannabefag. specially when they feel that they just have to dash everywhere.
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>>123408387
I keep thinking Archer classes are masochists
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>>123408668
What class is that? Cute costume
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Some more findings:

>Coursing doesn't seem to work. At all. The pet will grappel the target, but it can still move

>You can bug people in duels, enabling you to kill them even after the duel is over

>You can drag the corpses of people
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So what is better Black or Pink bunny ears?
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>>123409487
both are shit

anyone who wears them is trying too hard to be cute
>>
>>123409487
Depends on the rest of the outfit and hair color
>>
>>123409324

That is Doppelsöeldner.
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>>123408486
>Fapping instead of getting laid
>>
>>123409945
>not doing both
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>>123409628

Oh fuck anon.

Dont stop.

im so close
>>
What's the going rate for awakenings?
>>
>>123407949
You're retarded
>>
>>123410276
free if you have friends
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>>123409854
I imagined Doppel costume to be more armored or something. Thanks
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>>123410619
i dont
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>>123410276
on Gabi ? if yes just suck my dick really good and i do it for free
>>
So, what do Ausrine and Zemnya look like? Do they have portraits?
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What kind of particle effects you want, senpaitachi?
>>
>>123411309
I want a //effects. Everything is too bright
>>
>>123411309

> chat

rolling on floor laughing my ass off to be quite honest family member
>>
Ah... only if was as smooth as diablo 3.
>>
>>123410761
I'm going to reroll on that server later and take you up on your offer
>>
>>123411309
>epilepsy simulator

You should post that shit on the feedback session of the forums. That happens so frequently it's ridiculous. You don't even need that many people for it to start fucking your eyes.

And god have mercy on your soul if you have a Sadhu nearby.
>>
>>123410761
I'll kneeling shot you if you awaken my scale boots
>>
Does every class in the wizard tree only have 1 or 2 good and functioning skills out of 5?

I'm a thaumaturge but I don't know how are my fellow wizards doing. Linkers, cryos, sorcerers? Pyromancers need not apply they're Barbarian cancer tier.
>>
>>123411532
>diablo 3
>smooth
pick one
>>
Literally only white 2hand on market
how do i 170
>>
>>123411930
you buy a meme dagger
>>
>>123411820
>wizard tree only have 1 or 2 good and functioning skills
>Pyromancers need not apply
pyromancer included though
>>
>try some korean keywords to find tos videos on the youtubes
>end up finding a russian channel instead
>youtube recommends this video next: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwv1sBtWO64

what the fuck
>>
>use zalciai on an enemy mob
>fool myself and think its a blue mob
>get excited only to be disappointed
every time ;_;
>>
>>123411915
Even if you play it on a toaster you can get 60fps on low.
>>
I Just hit 111 and finished the Royal Mausoleum.
Should I still do gyttis or is it not worth it?
>>
>>123411574
>>123411775
going to bed soon. maybe see you tomorrow
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>>123411987
>>
>>123412028
EXP CARDS ANON

GET THEM

CONSUME THEM

FEEL THEM

BE THEM
>>
>>123411987
gross
>>
I feel like I burnt myself out. I barely feel any motivation to get to Rank 3 with this Cryo.
>>
>>123412294
I hate the fucking gyttis area though ;_;
>>
>>123412026
was not smooth in high GRs. especially with chargeMonk or WDs.
but this general isnt D3 and i dont play that atm. so whatever
>>
is it only the long armband that fucks up loading screen or all armbands?
>>
>>123412419
I noticed that it helps if you play with someone together.
>>
>>123412475
Oh, you mean you had lag playing the laggiest fucking classes?

Pretty soon you're gonna tell me your Rendbarb lagged in 78+

you foken monkey
>>
>>123412526
It's whichever one you get after you hit C6.
>>
>>123412615
in 4player ofc
and again.. im not playing that now. so i dont care.
but forum,streams,allSites said there are/was giant performance problems
>>
>>123412734
You don't get an armband for turning C6 nigga. I know because I'm C6.
>>
>>123406349
Doesn't work here
>>
Does the thresh bow exist?
>>
>>123412854
yea you need to be top 10
>>
Oh hey, items are back
>>
>>123411987
I did not expect the best handjob I'd ever see to be on YT

Huh.
>>
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I loved the puzzle quest at Valius place, why can't more quests be like that?
>>
>>123413196
That's a rumor too yo
>>
>>123413460
because puzzles are too hard for most people here
>>
>>123413460
>he wants more puzzle quests
>no one ever makes original puzzles
>done towers of hanoi in over 50 games
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>>123413460
it was the first and only time I actually had fun doing a quest in party
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This anon here >>123411930
is this shit worth 3mil? only have 5mil to toy with
>>
>>123413979
>potential 1

lol
>>
>>123413979
>1 potential

come on anon
>>
>>123413979
iirc the dagger is stupid easy to craft, so no it isn't worth 3m
>>
>>123413979
Just buy the recipe and craft it yourself. Its a lot cheaper that way.
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How much should I expect to pay for a meme dagger?
>>
>>123413979

You can probably craft it for 1m. Then buy a monster gem for 500k or less. So you can get that for 1.5m or less by yourself.
>>
>>123414256
All of it
>>
>>123414256
>4 ears
>>
>>123414464

More like 250k to make the dagger and 300k for a gem

>>123414256

450k if you find someone desperate


Laima prices though
>>
>>123414256

On Gabija, around 500k is the normal price.
>>
>>123414256
A few runs
>>
>>123414594
gabija meme2.0 is about 1mil for recipe, i wish it was cheap, also any anon do awakening?
>>
>killing glackuman
>blue tree spawns right over him
>I'm level 200
such a shame
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>>123414662
>>123414609
>>123414594
>>123414542
I'll try to keep it up with the runs then, the talt is getting to me.
>>
Are pawnd/els technically lolis?
>>
>>123414729

class level?
>>
>>123415497
didn't notice it increasing, so I'm guessing lower level monsters doesn't give class exp as well.
shit game.
>>
>>123415373

If you are on Gabija I can give you one. Got a few of them last night.
>>
Yo why am I helping a demonlord get his body back
>>
>>123415881
EXP cards?
>>
Why does /tosg/ champion the "need to grind at prison" meme?
>>
>>123415881
He did nothing wrong.
>>
Gabija still with higher exp?
>>
>>123415696
I am, but I would like it if you accepted at least some money for one.
>>
>>123415881
he's the nicest person you help in this game
he even tries to help you out, although he hits like a bitch.
>>
>>123415881
Cause exp cards. I'd gladly kill all the goddess for exp cards.
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>>123416127
>>123416127
new
>>
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>>123415881
You already killed innocents for exp cards. A demon lord or three is nothing
>>
>>123415986

Set up a shop at Klaipeda channel 1, near the statue, buying the dagger for whatever you want to give for it.
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>>123415881
Because he's a fucking bro.

And even after you backstab him like the exp card whore that you are, he still gives you a nice advice.

The only good person in this whole fucking game is a demon lord
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>>123415881
HAUBERK DID NOTHING WRONG
>>
>>123408387
Whenever I see any female character I just assume they're lonely males pretending to be girls.

But I quickly ignore the thoughts the resume masturbating to them.
>>
>>123410654
they wore the fanciest clothes to show they were extremely well paid mercenaries which was a sign to all the peasants to run away or get rekt
>>
>>123415881
trest noone, note the godesses', note evene youreselfe
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>>123407161
Hunter was never meant to be a competitive dpser, or a group suport/damage dealer, it's a solo classs, and has pvp potential.

Unless they bring back the old UI and make it so each pet learns different shit, and you can control said shit like sorc pets, hunter dps will be too unreliable, and growling is too gimmicky and probably will get nerfed if it makes some relevant high end content too easy, or said content will get the same attribute as dungeon bosses to avoid being cheesed.

Their biggest potential comes from cash shop pets being secretly better than the "funds" pets, and breaking the game, people would say "wow I found out how to break the game, this cash shop pet is the shit!" and people would keep buying it thinking it's some secret bug or whatever that wasn't intended.
>>
>>123417145
I want to make team up with Grita on Gabija

in bed.
>>
>>123418705
I hope they make the Pet AI more manageable, at some point. Right now the pet mechanics are really hard to understand.
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