/poeg/ - Path of Exile General

1st for chris lurks in poeg and steals our ideas

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>>123313652
so?

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How's life, pooh-eeh-gee?

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>>123314223
it's just 'pohj'

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>Game is so dead that new threads aren't made until the old one 404's

What went wrong /poeg/?

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>>123315597
Not enough anime.

Why are maps so boring?

>>123314565
pehh ohh eee gee

>>123316628
because you're not playing with me:)

why the fuck did they announce ascendency three weeks before the new challenge leagues

literally unhype for talisman because of this. now everyone is just waiting for the new expansion. why is GGG so retarded?

>Not pronouncing it as "poe egg"

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>>123318171
Just wait as they release beta access a month before ascendancy and people lose interest even faster, and they rush the release because
>MUH MARKETING DATE
I don't get it, why the fuck do they set a date, it's shooting themselves on the feet

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>>123318171
apparently because normies plan vacations and business trips many months in advance. and they get angry when ggg doesnt give them a heads up on release dates.
ggg *could* have just given a date and a name. but no info. and that would solve the problem.

chris must be desperate and/or greedy for fresh players.

>>123314565
>>123317968
>>123314223

it's fucking "POEg" as in edgar allen Poe but with a guh sound at the end.

>>123319514
there is no beta holy autism

>>123320369
you make me mad

there will be another p2p beta. i guarantee it

>>123314223
>poo edgey
Is that what Pajeet became after his dad died of dysentery?

I wish the beta access trend would die. Beta access should literally be limited to other gameplay developers to help tweak numbers, nothing more.

>>123320194
Literally release a 30 second edgy cinematic that ends with an updated PoE: Ascendancy logo and 'Q1 2016', and then gradually tease a few pieces of concept art between now and the end of February, and then finally dumping a gameplay trailer around Valentine's Day for a March 4th release date, with pre-patching starting March 1st.

Is that too hard?

>>123320464
okay what do i get when your fucking shit guarantee is wrong? i'll take your first 10 chaos drops on the new temp league when ascendancy drops.

>>123320578
you must be new if you think chris won't spin some shitty cash grab gimmick like a p2p beta

it's going to be a pattern every year

>new expansion announced
>challenge leagues
>p2p beta
>expansion begins with new challenge leagues

>>123320464
There's no beta, Qarl already confirmed:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/3u0ym8/path_of_exile_ascendancy_expansion_what_to_expect/cxb3str

>>123320545
>Beta access should literally be limited to other gameplay developers to help tweak numbers, nothing more.
thats called a closed alpha. and ggg already does that.

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>>123320889
>linking reddit in my poeg

BWUHHHHHHHHRUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEE

>>123320997
>i'm wrong time to sperg out even more!!!

>>123320997
Well they confirm stuff here since they don't have identification :P I'm sure some of the devs still use it though.

>>123321257
Can confirm, we do read all these shitposts

>>123320923
an "alpha" is when you're still implementing features (PS you don't need other people here, this is done entirely in an IDE).
a "beta" is when you test the shit you made (This would be where you invite other people to both use it normally to find usability and balance issues, as well as play like a psycho on coke to try and find any weird issues)
a "gamma" is a pre-release build that you'd put out for final quality assurance testing after all of your gameplay and mechanics changes have been made
and a "gold" state is the final public release

please don't call anything where balance is the goal an alpha, because at that stage you're beyond the alpha point in development.

>>123321616
>mr pedantic autistic faggot is still around and also still being wrong

nigga you're an omega

>>123322178
here's the (You) /poeg/ needs to stay alive

>>123321616
There's an alpha server for Path of Exile, that they use for other players to test stuff. It's literally called "Alpha access"

>>123322269
Then ggg named it wrongly.

Which actually makes a lot of sense when you look at how they do things.

But still, if I call a cow 'cat' it doesn't suddenly start meowing and chasing mice. A misnamed beta server is still a beta server.

>>123322463
chris literally called the p2p beta a "paid league" in a forum post back in january when he first announced the awakening

>>123322685
And Chris is a barely functional retard.

>>123322846
i just dont know why people are so quick to give these greedy scumfucks their money

>>123322846
and yet he still doesn't go on irrelevant autistic tirades about shit literally nobody cares about. what does that make you?

>>123322463
Alpha version describes a development status that usually means the first complete version of a program or application, which is most likely unstable, but is useful to show what the product will do to, usually, a selected group.

The Alpha releases aren't available to public, only to a select chosen few. It being called Alpha is correct.Have you even done software testing you fucking kek?

Kinda hyped for Ascendancy. Just about every class revealed so far makes me want to try it.

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>d2 has 3k viewers

I ripped at level 95
/blog

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1483908

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Fertile_Mind

Someone made a Divination Card for this, what the literal fuck.

>>123326710
$1,000 well spent :^) I love supporting Grinding Gear Games!

>>123326710
That's Bex's card, she's becoming a mother.

how do i change the hud back to the old on with the grill senpai?

>>123329919
You don't, it was really sexist

Just got the unique strand map as a drop. Never played it before, is it a rip map?

>>123330197
Not really, just the very last boss is just very, very annoying unless you play trap/minion build or chill/freeze immune.

Since talismans are corrupted, only rares will be useful.
With that in mind, do you think talisman rarity is effected by IIR? I want to know if its worth going heavy MF this league or not.

Other mobs can pick the talisman up, so they very likely would just re-drop the original. But the initial drop might be effected by IIR.
Thoughts?

>>123329574
>A mother's parting gift
Did her kid die or something?

>>123331895
not so much die as aborted

>>123329574
>implying bex is female

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Diablo 2 is such a comfy game. Why aren't there any comfy games anymore?

>>123333016
Oh okay, that makes more sense; I suppose the unique jewel for the card is supposed to be symbolic, then? "Fertile" as in the fertilizer her abortion will be used as once it's scraped out, and "Mind" referring to the wisdom of not bringing a child into this modern day in age.

Maybe I'm reading too much into this.

reminder that block is the most overpowered defensive mechanic in the game and you should abuse it whenever you can

>>123335286
I'd much rather abuse you, anonymous.

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>>123335891

>tfw trying to get some currency together so I'm listing junk at 1chaos b/o in hopes that someone impulse buys it

>>123333016
does that mean she thinks she is super smart for aborting her baby because the patriarchy would just bring the child down?

>>123334078
>cheating

fag

loli gf anon here we're actually about to start playing diablo 2 soon it's her first time how exciting

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>WoD on sale for $12

welp... fuck playing talisman 2-b-h(desu)

>>123337895
>>WoD
whats that catposter?

>>123338580
the current WoW expansion to be honestly honest

>>123339164
Don't do it.

>>123337895
>>123339164
>world of warcraft

if you're gonna buy blizzshit, anything but that

>>123339253
>>123339321
but it's so cheap... and you can buy gametime with gold now... and i haven't played in literally 5 years so i have a lot of content to catch up on

>>123339463
But it will be the end of you anon, you know you already have things in your life you need to focus on, why would you put turn your back to them?

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>>123339729
>implying i have even anything vaguely resembling a life

kek. i got nothing to lose except even more of my sanity

>>123339920
its nothing like you remember it.

you are better off on those pservers on vg than on official if you want to waste some time and have fun

>shavs div card
is shavs basically worthless now?

>>123340557
yes, just like kaoms.

>>123340557
I bought one for 3.5ex last league; I regretted it immensely.

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>>123336654
It would be nice if we could get a closed, secured, cheat free platform, just for PC gaming so that bots and hacks were a thing of the past. I imagine this issue is going to become central once VR/AR becomes the norm people will get tired of hacks and shit ruining their immershun and that will be the end of piracy and simultaneously the rise of games completely not existing in physical form and costing hundreds of dollars a month with mtx for everything you can imagine.

>>123341496
>closed, secured, cheat free platform, just for PC gaming so that bots and hacks were a thing of the past.

as long as pcs are general-purpose computers that wont happen.

cheating will end when in the future, the use of persistent real-life identities will enforced in all social media and vidya, and ToS will be upgraded to some stronger legally binding document making you financially liable for breaking it

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>>123341948
>cheating will end when in the future, the use of persistent real-life identities will enforced in all social media and vidya, and ToS will be upgraded to some stronger legally binding document making you financially liable for breaking it

You mean just like it is now in real life how we all have an identity and are legally bound by law and thus we have no crime?

No, the only solution is to move everything outside of our hands, in a closed, secure platform such as the cloud. I don't like it but it's the future, We had the chance to prove ourselves with LAN gaming and we blew it. Enjoy you're shit future, you earned it.

>>123340557
div cards have made high end uniques worthless

why isnt riot shitting themselves about this?

>>123342146
>>You mean just like it is now in real life how we all have an identity and are legally bound by law and thus we have no crime?

identity-enforced liability means a ban would work not on your ip, but on your identity

ie. get banned on a game by certain game dev, and you are banned on all their games. and if they have agreements with other companies, you could banned in their games too

until you pay your fine. this has no rl equivalent (yet) and if it did, it would be a bit orwellian (which may likely happen in a police state anyway)

closed platforms exist already, they are called consoles

>>123342442
by riot i mean reddit

>>123342442

because the high end dosh shifted to crafting.

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>>123342532
>identity-enforced liability means a ban would work not on your ip, but on your identity
cool, I'll just steal my brother/cousin/friend's identity who doesn't play vidya then.

>closed platforms exist already, they are called consoles
Are you claiming there's something wrong with that? PC's can upgrade their hardware. Taking the positive side of consoles to create a secure platform for PC gaming would be a good thing. You could still load up your shit OS for everything else. But a closed binary blob that gets updated every week to close loopholes would be the perfect solution. But it's more likely that everything just gets moved into the cloud. It's better for all the greedy shitheads ruining the world.

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>Move into Malformation Piety room
>8 out of 11 zombies with 14,000 hp, and capped resistances instantly fucking die
COol fucking game poetards I'm so fucking angry my left side is going numb and my chest hurts; i'm gonigf9hgsdfgsasdf8hs8

>>123342894
>still botting

You're not even playing fag

>>123342894
>cool, I'll just steal my

biometrics are already starting to become a thing. companies like microsoft and google are doing everything in their power to related users to actual persons in order to sell your info to marketers. shits only beginning

and no i dont have a problem with what consoles could be if done right. but as it is now, they are shit. moving shit to a cloud will happen but not before something happens to magically make isp's and mobile carriers less shit

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>>123342932
i can't play diablo 2 the 25 fps animations hurt my eyes. i just treat it like my own personal tamagotchi instead.

>>123343359
>moving shit to a cloud will happen but not before something happens to magically make isp's and mobile carriers less shit

low orbit satellites errywhere

>>123343364
I guess that's cool man

what realm are you on

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>>123320224
It's pee oh eee jii. Fuck all you niggers.

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>2016
>playing d2

>WW3 literally started a couple hours ago
>still no AH

gonna die without having fun

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>>123343839
i simply am not there

>>123342926
Should've had your minions all blocked capped senpai.

>>123344434
I just wanted to know what private server was worth my time, Man.

>>123342146
>closed, secure platform such as the cloud
Games like Path of Exile are already played remotely, with server-side verification of everything you do. Cheating comes from the client side, and as a client, whether we're connected to one or many servers isn't an important distinction. If you plan on introducing client machines into the butt, then it stops being closed and secure.

In essence, what you're talking about is having the client be paper-thin, like the VAX terminals of yore, but how does a server on the butt verify that a client computer is a thin terminal rather than a general purpose computer in disguise? Everything required to verify the thin client's identity has to be in the client somehow, so it's always possible to reverse engineer that identity. Much like how Blu-ray encryption hasn't held out, because the disk has to be decrypted on the machine you're using, so the security isn't actually very strong.

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>>123318453
This desu

>>123345141
>Cheating comes from the client side
That's exactly why you lock down the platform the client runs on so that they can't run anything but the games they're playing on it. It would require investment in a great deal of additional hardware just to cheat, all of which would be regularly subjected to being rendered obsolete. This would be far beyond the scope of the subset of players currently cheating on PC. Just think for a second, how many people run bots on the PS4? It's virtually unheard of.

>Everything required to verify the thin client's identity has to be in the client somehow, so it's always possible to reverse engineer that identity
That's exactly why you have regular binary updates. Reverse engineering takes time and regular updates will ensure their previous work is constantly nullified. It would be almost pointless to look for loopholes knowing the method used for obtaining them would be broken every week.

>>123342442
div cards for high-end uniques have abysmal drop rates

the 4x drop rate on t1 shit made them worth less

D

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could Trump build a wall to stop the reddit/shitcore incursion into poeg? if so then he has my vote

>>123345854
>Just think for a second, how many people run bots on the PS4? It's virtually unheard of.

that has to do with the type of demo ps4/consoles are aiming for

mostly casual games, shit you play for fun with other people on coop, etc

the autismal demo who bots has little to work with on ps4 so there is not enough incentive yet to develop botting tools

>It would be almost pointless to look for loopholes knowing the method used for obtaining them would be broken every week.

this sounds insanely costly. there is a reason its not being done right now by even AAA devs

>>123346981
>implying trump would play dead leagues with no economy

luhmayo senpai baka

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Friendly reminder that Paid Leagues would solve 98% of PoE's problems while simultaneously providing more incentive to buy supporter packs, and helping GGG make ¨PoE even better.

Anyone who says otherwise, i remind you most Rulers of Wraeclast agree with this, and your freefag opinion has no place in this game..

>>123347000
>the autismal demo who bots has little to work with on ps4 so there is not enough incentive yet to develop botting tools

you can play final fantasy xiv or elder scrolls online on ps4 both of those are filled with bots on pc so i'm gonna have to disagree.

>this sounds insanely costly. there is a reason its not being done right now by even AAA devs

it's no more costly than steam releasing beta client updates every other day. if you make an OS that becomes the de facto standard gaming platform because it's the only secure platform in the world you're going to have a shitload of money to update a few files each week.

Do animeposters have souls?

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>>123347471
does anyone here

>>123347000
>there is a reason its not being done right now by even AAA devs
oh and also it's not being done right now because as already stated, the platform games are ran on PC is open anyone can make anything for them. create a locked down platform that only games can run on and keep it updated regularly specifically against cheats and cheating would be far too inaccessible to bother with.

>>123347464
>you can play final fantasy xiv or elder scrolls online on ps4 both of those are filled with bots on pc so i'm gonna have to disagree.

disagree all you want. but those cater primarily to pc gamers


>>123347464
>it's no more costly than steam releasing beta client updates every other day. if you make an OS that becomes the de facto standard gaming platform because it's the only secure platform in the world you're going to have a shitload of money to update a few files each week.

that already exists. they are consoles and you can still cheat on them. 100% bulletproof security isnt technically feasible as long as you have access to the hardware

>>123348145
>disagree all you want. but those cater primarily to pc gamers

PS4 is the largest console platform out right now and those are two AAA games. quantify "cater to" please.

>that already exists. they are consoles and you can still cheat on them

consoles aren't designed specifically to combat the blight that is cheating on PC gaming. it would have to be a platform designed specifically with, say, competitive gaming in mind but could be for any game that wants a secure platform.

>100% bulletproof security isnt technically feasible
it doesn't need to be and there's no such thing.. it just needs to be a lot less accessible than it currently is on PC.

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>mfw i'm the best player in poeg that doesn't associate with reddit

feels good to be pure

>>123348145
>consoles and you can still cheat on them
and I should add that no, you can't. you can cheat and get banned for using a modded controller, you can mod your console and not be able to connect to their servers. you can hack saves and not be able to play on any premium service. but the amount of functional hacks that don't get immediately banned on the premium services are slim to none. PC needs this kind of thing. I'm sick of every game being infested with bots and some retard trying to deny it.

i'm trying to use Sven's Glide Wrapper for d2 and the -w property isn't working, any help mr botter?

>>123350991
yeah glide looks awful use direct2d instead

>>123351094
but then I dont' get all the other excellent benefits of using this wrapper

>Devilians, Our Closed Beta Events and Alpha servers have been an amazing journey that we look forward to getting even bigger! Now everyone will get a chance to try out Devilian! Our Open Beta starts Wednesday, December 2 at 10:00 AM PST

reminder

>>123351325
>Trion is fucking terrible and ruins every game they touch

reminder

>>123351369
true fact but you could have fun with it for a month or two before it goes full-blown p2w

>>123351418
>fun

>>123351585
i had fun with archeage as a f2p player for two months until trion pissed everyone off so bad everybody quit and then the game was pointless because it's a pvp mmo with nobody to pvp

>>123351684
>f u n
>u
>n

>>123345854
Since I prefer to talk about real things that actually happen, Blu-ray encryption constantly has new keys being generated, and they're broken just as quickly because it has to be locally decrypted.

Botting is primarily about understanding the network traffic of the game, and it has basically the same problem, that network traffic always has to be comprehensible to a client that you have physical access to. The only way the server can vet what your ethernet cable is plugged in to is via network protocols---handshaking and the like---but when you have physical access, you can always play man in the middle. So what do you think your binary blobs will contain, and do you think your blob developers will have more time on their hands than the forces of botting?

I don't know if anyone actually cares enough to go through all this trouble with consoles. I do think people would go through the trouble with persistent online games on PC, because gold selling is very lucrative for certain people who don't mind jumping through technical hoops.

>>123351094
is there a way to have my account name set in a shortcut or something so i dont need to type it every damn time

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>>123351724
you have a point

im too old to actually video games anymore

>>123351753
>Blu-ray encryption constantly has new keys being generated, and they're broken just as quickly because it has to be locally decrypted
But then they also don't have to go through an auth server and be subjected to an official legit check as a console like PC game platform would be.

The same for your second example. Whatever you're thinking could be used to craft a bot would be easily detectable and banned.

>I don't know if anyone actually cares enough to go through all this trouble with consoles
We definitely know they do. There's a market for this stuff outside of the premium servers where they get banned. They play on modded servers and modded consoles instead.

>>123351883
Your account name should just save after you type it in, not your password tho.

>>123352321
I have multiple accounts to multibox

>>123352359
i dunno i think i used the bot for this

>join the blamt race 45 mins late
>still top 20 of my class, top 100 overall

nice game nerds.

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>lebitors are BEGGING for overpriced cosmetics

Are supporter packs the biggest scam in videojuegos since horse armor?

>>123342926
I killed Piety with uncapped res, mf gear and elemental weakness in malformation yesterday.

learn to exploit dark shrines to become invulnerable

Whats the current version of PoE intl?

I'd check on their site but I'm IP blocked because I'm SEAman

>Version 2.0.4b here

>>123312969
what's this picture from?

>>123359249
Path of Exile

>>123357945
2.0.5b

was only a hotfix

>>123359249
Diablo 2

Are there any armor galleries online? I haven't ever been able to find a complete one.

>>123362181
what do you mean "armor galleries" like what certain armors look like on characters? Or MTX?

I know there is a 3D unique art thread on the forums

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/342452

>>123363856

Certain armors on characters. That link does well enough. Thanks!

>>123331746
you should get item quantity so they can drop more

>>123331746
Just to keep in mind, thanks to hidden potential Blues might be decent as well.

>>123331746
Also it is always worth going MF.

I go MF from now on in every league until I am so rich that I don't know what to do with myself anymore. Or I can't afford to buy any more JewTabs

>Gladiator gets 100% of Block rate as Spell Block
Rainbowstride, Stone of Lazhwar, it's been nice knowing you guys. You've been the cornerstones of my tank build since level 53 and 5 respectively, but now you can retire my stash. Your service will not soon be forgotten.

>>123315597
1 months are boring and not worth playing
people like me only enjoy the fresh 3-4 month leagues
when new league starts we will be alive as usual for good month

hf!

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Hi, /poeg/. I am having a liitle bit of a trouble with my first incin build. I have a gg tri-res armor shield with t1 hp roll, but i don't have a rathspith and moni for it. When i'm done lvling in dried lake, should i spec into block or just get as much life as i can and dont go in block/spellblock?

Darkshrine HC

>>123369570
Block spell block is too broken to pass on. I hope you're a scion.

>>123370062
Yes, I am a scion. At what block chance should i start maps? around 40%?

>>123369570
>Not Incinerate Totem
Ayyy

What's the deal with ball lightning? I have practically no damage on the tree, rocking a four link, and I'm still clearing at a decent pace. Makes for one hell of a curse on hit spec to boot.

>>123374983
I'm not used to having fun. I've played league for too long to actually enjoy playing a moba.

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>>123374904

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>>123374983
What now you little bitch

>>123375062
I'm serious though. I always thought ball lightning was just a worse arc. Still is I guess, but it's not bad.

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>>123374983
Yeah i fucking love playing a game where i have to rely on JAJAJAJAs and CYKAS in order to win. No matter how good i play that one spic fuck just throws away the entire game when he gets caught at the 50 minute mark and we can't defend 4v5.

Love dota.

>>123374983
I play poe and dota.

THAT'S what's wrong with me..

>>123374983
i simply do not enjoy playing ASSFAGGOTS.

>>123374983
>the fastest growing game in the world
>5 years later and still no one gives a fuck

nice

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>>123375082

baka

>>123375082
>>123378181
I seriously hope your mmr is higher than your playtime

>>123378506
People who haven't reached AT LEAST 5k mmr after 2-3k hours should commit suicide.

>>123378661
>>123378506
I am 5k2 and I'm >>123375082

Haven't really played in 2 years though

>add one thing to the game now
>add one thing to the Ascendant expansion
>add one Unique
>add one MTX

>>123379340
AN AUCTION HOUSE IM SO FUCKING SICK OF WHISPERING 40 PEOPLE AND THEY'RE ALL AFK, I ALSO WANNA SELL SHIT WHEN IM OFFLINE FUUUUUUUCK

You can't play the expansion if you're a tranny

A summoner unique that equips your skeletons with better weapons that do splash damage.

Non-SJW scion MTX

>>123379340
I really just want my Flame Golem to stop being so loud.

>>123380536
kill yourself desu senpai :^)

>>123380536
the only worse trade than what we have now is auction house one.

>>123381554
>no competition is better than competition
casualfags, everybody

>>123382365
the fuck are you talking about retard.

>>123382365
>>123380536
Besides pointing out how retarded you are for the nth time, the one thing you'll never ever see in PoE is an actual AH. So either give up or find another game faggot.

>>123382365
There is competition in the current trade system.

It's just that it's much easier to make arbitrage profits this way than in an auction house as the pricing information isn't as neatly presented.

>>123381201
Calm down h4ns

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is it any coincidence that shitcrows are also filthy degenerate redditors? i think not

>>123384706
>shitty bunny poster
Out of our fair general.

>>123383304
And that's a good thing. It's an aRPG, you're supposed to be out killing shit and clearing dungeons, not sitting in the ah all day.

>>123385000
except that's exactly what an auction house is going fix you mouth breathing retard

something to allow us to sell items while we play, rather than having to sit in our hideout all day or constantly teleport back to our hideout whenever we try to sell or buy stuff

Thinking about making a block based duelist-gladiator. Does anyone have experience with the playstyle and survivability? How important is Aeigis Auora for being super tanky? I'd prefer using something else, but healing ~200 effective life a block is REALLY strong.

>>123373796
i already started as scion

>>123386205
yeah i have some experience with it

Resolute Technique with 1 handed weapons sucks fucking dick.

>>123386070
it's so effective you could just not play the game at all in fact it's almost like the game would be an ah simulator instead. why even have loot drops at all? just do currency drops only and give vendors vendor loot rng™

>>123384706
>h4ns
>autistic enough to play for 8+ hours every day to be in top 5
>tranny
>redditor

I'd rather be a shitcrow

>>123387801
hanz isn't a true denizen of poeg. he's a dirty interloper

>>123387801
http://webmshare.com/K7yPq

He sounds cute though

>>123386205
>but healing ~200 effective life a block is REALLY strong.
maybe you should look into doing maxblock witch.
bone offering + necromancer subclass + lazhwar(if you care about the spellblock)
200 es on block is stronk. 750 life on block is stronker.

>>123351325
i got closed beta access but never bothered to check it out because also got Tree of Saviour keys and >installing Glyph

anyone played it? looks like a generic as fuck d3 clone. is it fun?

also new grim dawn build dropped plus there was a mechanics revamp in mh2015. meh, every other arpg looks better than devilian

>>123386070
>selling shit is actually interrupting your gameplay

are you selling every single 1-2c rare you find?

>>123388821
i haven't played it, but if devilian follows the trend of previous trion games, it will have server capacity issues for a week and unless you pay them money you won't be able to play. when Archeage released everybody who didn't pay for Patron had to wait in queues for 8-12hrs. also, the game will have some sort of "labor" system that prevents you from progressing at a competitive pace unless, again, you pay them more money. it will more than likely also some kind of home/base/hideout/whatever that you can only buy with money that also gives you bonuses like earning gold, items, experience, whatever. the game is guaranteed to be p2w in more than a few ways.

trion also has a bad habit of lying to people. they have no problem pissing off massive hordes of people. do NOT give them your money. you will regret it

but, the game will probably be fun to play even for f2p players. it is free after all

>>123389168
sure as shit is a lot more interrupting than putting things into an auction house once.

>>123385000
No shit, I completely agree.

>>123386070
You ARE in fact a complete retard. Or you amazingly ignorant.

>>123385000
instead players sit in poe.trade all day, waiting for players to finish with their maps so they can finally buy something from them

>>123389596
ur rite dood, PoE has a perfect trade system. :^)

btw i play self-found only

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>Complaining about poe trade system

Would you rather go to a mule park game and talk to 7 other barbarians?

[Spoiler] AH sucks

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but poe doesn't even have a trade system

you have to use 3rd party sites

new league when?

when can I finally play this shit again??

>>123390594
non sense, you can right click people and click "trade"

that's all you need baby :^)

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Ya'll are practically begging for the Fixed Price Autist to show up with all this talk of poe's trading system.

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>>123391185
dafuq i do that boss with -max and shit

>getting hit

lol

>>123391185
>20k es
>93% res
>dies
holy shit

>>123388745
Sounds typical slav to me.

reminder poeg is home to the greatest HC players in the world

>>123389945
>ur rite dood, PoE has a perfect trade system.
Who the fuck claimed that, you projecting piece of shit? Stop putting words in other people's mouths thinking that gives your ignorant point of view any validity.

>>123392875
the point is that literally anything will be an improved trade system since PoE DOESN'T HAVE ONE

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Fixed Pricing, the savior of PoE's broken RMT driven and anti competitive game economy

>What is fixed pricing?
Fixed pricing is in simple terms a method to predetermine and assign a currency value to everything in the game, including the value of currency itself at a pseudo, "fixed" price in order to eliminate game cancers. For example: the third party real money trading of items. RMT of items is virtually eliminated by making all exchanges of items forced through the trade window with a predetermined fixed price attached to it. In order to determine a fixed price, a predetermined currency valuation system will be assigned to the following: affixes based on tiers and rolls low-high, maximum Sockets (<max = no/min value), maximum Links (<max = no/min value), Vaal Corruptions, Item Level, Item Base and socket color extremity. Each mod will be assigned a currency value corresponding to its RNG which reflects the probability of each Valuated mod occurring. The same system will be used for Maps, Flasks, Cards -- anything that can be traded.

Some other problems curbed by fixed pricing include the ability to effectively bot, scams, hacks, multiboxing and unfair hand outs

Naturally some players think that fixed pricing wouldn't work and here are some common misconceptions about it, problems and solutions.

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>The economy wouldn't accurately reflect the price of newly discovered builds and powerful items
Fixed pricing doesn't mean the price of an item can't fluctuate and adapt to a market. The value of all items can be tracked and players would be able to price any item within a small variable percentage of its fixed value. The fixed value could update each day or possibly hour, second or at any determined time interval. This would allow the price of items to meet supply and demand. To prevent market manipulation, fixed price trade values would only count once per item per day or otherwise a determined value and time interval. So you couldn't, say, trade the same item over and over again to control its value, it would only be tracked at a determined interval.

>Players wouldn't be able to help their friend by giving them items
This is true however players overall will be able to trade much more efficiently than before since the vast majority of the leg work is taken out of trade, with the bulk of the price already being determined. This in turn gives players more time to actually play the game. A player won't have to weigh the time it takes to trade vs running a map since the price is largely established.

Alternately, a system like that employed in Diablo 3 could be a solution to the problem, whereby players can give items to other players who were in the party at the time they were found in, "group found" items in other words. The idea being to encourage players playing together rather than annoying begging and hand outs. Unlike Diablo 3, players would still be able to trade everything they find with anyone anytime outside of the party.

continued...

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>>123393049
>>123393213

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>>123393213
>Players won't buy my item, it will be too expensive
Just as it is in the current system, players won't buy shitty items. If your item is desired, players will buy it and the price will continue to adapt to reflect the market value. And the price of everything is relative. An item can't be too expensive or too cheap, it can be worth precisely what the market will bear.

>Players will be discouraged from selling their item
Just as in the current system, players will need currency and items, which will prove to be a sufficient market mover. And just as in the current system, players may choose to buy low and sell high. The key difference here is ripping players off will be far more difficult.

>Players will still RMT items, they'll just include the fixed price in the cost
That's fine as the market condition is still being met. If players want to pay real money on top of the fixed price when they could buy it without paying any real money to a legitimate player, so be it. They still will have to have the full currency value of the item, thus satisfying the market condition. No harm, no foul.

>This is no different than a vendor
As stated above, unlike a vendor, fixed pricing allows prices to fluctuate to meet supply and demand whereas a vendor's price is always fixed and may be too low or too high based on the current meta, fixed pricing is not as the price fixing is based on a supply and demand player controlled price.

>>123392990
And? Why is everyone complaining? Just write your own shit and set it to notify you whenever some idiot lists a god-tier item for cheap, or lists an item that can easily be master crafted to be amazing for just a couple exalts, or, god forbid, lists a mirror for under 30 ex. Shit happens more often than you'd think. Take advantage of the lack of auction houses and set prices. Doesn't take but a few hours and you're rolling in all the currency you'd ever want.

okay who summoned the fixed trade autie where are the skeleton points to counter xhim?

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>RMT shitlord logic BTFO and RMT site conmen quaking in their boots

no true scotsman would say fixed trade is a bad thing

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>>123393880
Guys stop, we all know the reason the trade system stays as is is because it benefits Chris and his RMTing ploy.

>>123394239
it would be a hell of a con, and not even illegal

but i doubt Chris is that morally bankrupt.

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I asked /poeg/ why PoE can't have an auction house. They responded to me like I just blew their minds.

I think I'm gonna be a stock broker.

Hai gais, wuts goin on her?

>>123394378

a small small vocal minority who play the game as a trade sim would have an AH almost destroy the way they play poe; which is jewing, scamming and flipping

but i think an AH will arrive eventually anyway

havent showered in like two weeks desu senpai

im almost as shitty as poe is

>>123394713
But are you a girl with a smelly NEET pussy?

>>123394378
idi naxy cyka

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/poeg/, do this

>go to d2jsp
>sell all your SC/HC exalts for fg (they're easier to sell)
>buy CS:GO keys with fg
>sell CS:GO keys on steam market
>buy cheap games on this sale + wait for christmas sale

There you go! Now you don't need to play this shit game.

>>123396551
But I don't want to play your other shit steam games. Fuck you. And why the fuck are you posting Boatsluts? I can play that shit for FREE, too.

>>123396551
i delete anything that goes into sc/hc

>>123397393
this 2-b-h

there are too many good free games out there to ever pay for any

>good games
>free

poorfag in sight

>>123397502
except 90% of free games are trash due to pay2notgrind systems

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Dead game, dead thread. Posting RIPs.

>>123398075
But, I'm not. I can easily buy the games I want to buy, without fucking RMT'ing my shit in PoE. I have also gotten all the games I want from steam on earlier sales because I'm not 12 starting my fresh account. I haven't found a game I want to play in over 2 years. Fallout 4 isn't even a rpg anymore. Fuck you Bethesda.

>>123397393

>And why the fuck are you posting Boatsluts?

I like to masturbate to boatsluts.

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>all those people who built their lives on the RMT or no trading paradigm immutability are sobbing right now

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>>123398334

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>>123398075
what's the best game you've ever played? i guarantee it was a f2p game

>>123398306
what the fuck is wrong with that exactly?

>have to work all the time
>pay money to stay competitive

>dont have to work all the time
>grind like crazy to stay competitive

there is literally nothing wrong with this. i've been gaming online for almost 20 years man. the current era of pc gaming is fucking amazing.

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>>123398740

>>123398578
>what's the best game you've ever played? i guarantee it was a f2p game

are you 15 or something?

for most adults, the best games were not f2p

d2, kotor, ragnarok online (before the f2p dedgame), sc2, ME1, FF4/5/6, smb3, sf2t. all p2p

only f2p games have to have been remotely decent for me have been poe and warframe. and warframe is now utter shit and poe is heading that way

>>123399160
you're a pleb honestly

>>123398578
>what's the best game you've ever played?
Morrowind/Fallout 1/Fallout 2/Warcraft 3/SC Broodwar/Deus Ex/Diablo 2

>>123398507
2hus>boatsluts

>>123399426
>>123397502
I, for one, am prepared to welcome our new Granblue Fantasy overlords.

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>>123398934

>>123399362
>Fallout 1/Fallout 2

technically f2p if you "bought" them during that GOG giveaway!

>>123399160
>>123399362
nostalgia goggles

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fuck is this shit

>>123399832
dude...nice builds

>>123399362
>ill just name /v/ favorite old games

this game really needs a playable midget race

like a gnome or goblin or something

imagine being the size of a totem

>>123399780
My ass. It's not like I tried to force any objectiveness or told you they're the best games ever made. You or the question asked what was the best games that I played, I answered. Fuck you.

>>123400027
I haven't visited /v/ in 4 years and have never browsed or lurked there so whatever you say. Why the fuck would I go to that cancerous shithole? /vg/ is already bad enough and I'm getting discounted /v/ here.

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>>123399426

2hu for music, boatsluts for doujinshis.

>>123398578
>what's the best game you've ever played? i guarantee it was a f2p game

did you play any goddamn video games at all before the age of F2P?

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>>123400942
>2hu for music
Refined taste in /poeg/? What is this?

>>123400303
witch with rats nest and -1% charactersize jewels
closest you can get.

>>123388782
I considered it, but witch is REALLY inefficient, and loses a lot in terms of health pool, damage, and requires an active skill to maintain life on block. Additionally, I REALLY want to use the corrupted legacy Anvil I have. It is something to consider being a block based witch, but having to manually maintain life on block seems a bit too tedious for me.

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>>123400942
remi is olev

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>ggg is a great company and poe is a great game

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>open chest
>chaos orb

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>>123405007
>kick barrel
>exalted orb

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>>123405185
>Turn over corpse
>mirror

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>>123405338
>play poe
>have fun

>>123405430
You ruined it here.

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>>123405430
>uninstall poe
>free up ssd space

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>boot up poe
>contemplate life decisions
>close poe

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>participate in a race
>lag 5 seconds in
>close PoE

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>spend 40 minutes planing my perfect build with full itemization
>open poe
>play for 2 weeks trying to get there

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>>123408453
i want this

i need this

>log in
>esk whispers "poeg is filled with degenerates"
>start crying
>log off

Anyone else hyped AF for blade vortex ? hurry druid was my favourite thing in d2, so cant wait to play blade witch

>>123409216
its gonna have a pre-buff shock nova aoe

so no

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>>123409216
does blade vortex work with facebreakers

>>123409453
its a phys spell, like EK, retarded catposter

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>>123409453
no

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>>123409453

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>>123409453

FRIENDLY REMINDER POE'S ACT 3 HAS THE BEST LEVEL DESIGN AND ENVIRONMENT ART OF ANY ARPG

ANY ARPG

dumb catposter is actually a genius desu. he's just pretending and trolling you all. it's really ebin

>hey everyone plays cyclone! Let's give them another cyclone since they like it so much!! XD
>only this time you have to pre-cast it instead of just attacking lol epbin

>>123396551
It surprises me that people go so far to avoid spending money. Literally get a fucking job, and use that income to but what you want. Not hard.

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>>123409453
hi catposter

have a surprise.gif

>>123408453
It only takes two weeks to get every class to 85. Once you're there dump regrets and buy your gems 20/20. Saves a hell of a lot of time rerolling for every build. Just respec and continue farming maps.

rate my blade vortex build

http://poeurl.com/zFgkvQl

>BV > echo > faster casting > conc effect > inc aoe > life leech
>hatred > herald of ash > arctic armor

What would be the best way to scale bladefall? spell damage or phys?

>>123412325
>conc effect > inc aoe
love this meme

>>123413596
where are the spell damage nodes located and where are the phys nodes located.

will you go crit or not also matters

>>123413786
let's say if it is 10% increased phys dmg or 10% increased spell damage

which one should I get? do they do the same thing?

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>>123413718
but anon, the only alternative would be added fire and i don't think that would improve clearspeed more than more aoe would

>>123413879
point for point they do the same thing

>>123412325
>BV > echo > faster casting > conc effect > inc aoe > life leech
bv - echo - faster casting - inc aoe - inc duration - added chaos/life leech

>>123414818
>added chaos
this would probably be good. i just realized the base cast speed is .5 which is ridiculously fast. blade vortex will definitely be an 'added damage' kind of spell, especially when you can reach over 10 second duration

why isnt anyone posting

>>123416501
Too much suspense

>>123412325
>non crit with a spell that has 6% base crit.

if there's one thing I've learned across my caster's, it's that spells with 6% base crit usually suck in non crit builds

>>123417428
but it's melee

it's going to be really hard to stay tanky enough to use it in HC

>>123417428
not if you go 800 str iw

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>not going dual blade vortex totems

>>123418456

the fucked up part, is that save for a CoC setup, 2x totems may end up being better if the aoe is as awkward as it seems it will be, if only because now you have 2x coverage

>>123418928
if it works with echo then totems will probably suck. if it doesnt work with echo then totems might be best

but since BV is a spell version of cyclone, and if cyclone doesnt work with multistrike, then im doubting GGG will let BV work with echo

>pick up 18 q enlighten
>server crashes
>log back in
>gone

FUCK GGG

>>123419554
Wow fuck you, you broke the server by picking up that enlighten. Why don't you think of others next time you fuckin' do something like that?!

>>123419554
in darkshrines?

20q are worthless

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>kill boss
>get a +2

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>kill boss
>get nothing
>quit playing until next league

aren't they fixing discharge so it only goes off once every second or something? won't this make CoC builds not ruin your framerate anymore?

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>>123425208

>Grinding Goyim Games
>fixing anything

O L O

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"valued poster"

>>123425764
Nice naming sense.

>>123343364
Are you playing singleplayer?

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>>123430041
nope.

read this from the diablo 2 wiki,

>Diablo II runs at 25 frames per second. The /fps will only display 25 (or less) on single player. On multiplayer it will display however fast your machine can handle.
>Values above 25 have no affect on game performance, since the game only updates every 1/25 seconds.
>A machine that displays at 150 FPS will not differ in any way from one that displays at 25 FPS

game looks fucking awfull. fyi diablo 3 has the same limitation only it's capped at 60 fps instead of 25. i wonder how the beelzebub mod makers got diablo 1 to render correctly at 60 fps. i'd love to see a diablo 2 mod do the same.

>>123430529
Yep, that's why I asked. You can see the difference between starting singleplayer and, say, creating a LAN game - move your cursor around the inventory, click on the items, etc. With 25fps it's very.. unsettling. With multiplayer it's easily detectable to be smoother. The wiki actually talks about the inner mechanics (like fcr/frw/fhr/fbr breakpoints) being fixed at 25fps.

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>>123431160
>You can see the difference between starting singleplayer and, say, creating a LAN game - move your cursor around the inventory, click on the items, etc

No actually, you can't. You may be able to feel the difference as there will be less input latency but everything you see on screen only renders 25 frames, in multiplayer and in singleplayer. What you see is exactly the same in both.

It really sucks if you ever played a game on a CRT monitor, a VR headset or a low persistence LCD monitor you need the game the render the exact same number of frames as the refresh rate or the game will look like shit. It can look okay if it renders many more frames than the refresh rate but generally speaking you want the framerate to be locked to the refresh rate. In Diablo 2 that's pretty much impossible unless you have an old 24hz tv and then you will probably suffer from eye strain if you do from all the flickering, You need a bare minimum of 60 fps but really that's not enough.

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after hours of research into blade vortex, i've determined that stacking increased aoe, increased duration and cast speed is the best option.

but now, i can't decided if scaling spell damage would be better than simply using added damage(from support gems, wands, etc)

and also the biggest challenge will be staying tanky enough to survive t10+ maps. i think getting VP is obvious, but that alone won't be enough to save you from one shots.

CoC would be an option, but how do you get enough crit, aoe, duration, cast speed, survivability AND the volls devotion? idk famz

>>123431861
I was talking specifically about the cursor lag, which is a big deal in such a game. And you can easily see the difference between SP and LAN, and how the fuck SP would get 'more input latency'? I mean, think about what you wrote.

The glide creator said that 25fps lock was because of the busy wait implementation, however it can be circumvented for processes like mouse drivers. How can you not see the fucking mouse lag in SP and how it is absent in MP.

>>123432505
>ky enough to survive t10+ maps.
Wait what there are 110+ maps now?

>>123432505
Blast Rain > Blade Meme

>>123409818
statue pussy to be honest

>>123432505
I want to take a boring old RF burner and tack on Blade Vortex.

>>123432953
Ah, I see what you mean now. I don't normally use Glide but if you use Glide, the mouse cursor does indeed render smoothly but everything else is still a blurry 25 FPS turd so to me, it's meaningless. Have a good day.

>>123434860
but RF kinda sucks because you can't do a lot of map mods like -max, vuln, half regen, shocking ground, etc

and i think the best way to scale BV will be with crit or added damage. the spell's damage looks pretty low by itself

ill probably try BV > echo > conc effect > added chaos > added lightning > life leech

Does anyone play hardcore still?

>>123436936
no

>>123436936
only me :^)

>>123436626
If it's really unbearable to you, then drop it, unfortunately. But it is so worth trying. Just think about all those runewords waiting for you, anon.

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>>123438014
I've already played Diablo 2 in every mode. The mouse cursor isn't what keeps me from playing. It's that the game is rendered at 25 FPS so everything looks like blurry shit. Mouse cursor doesn't change that.

Diablo 1 Beelzebub mod on the other hand..holy shit. They made the entire game run smoothly at 60 FPS, not just the mouse cursor but all the animations, item text labels, backgrounds, everything and at 1080p with zoom.. I wish someone would make a mod like that for Diablo 2

>>123439240
Diablo 2 sucks, stfu

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>>123439739
>d2 sucks

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>mfw selling alpha's howl for 1ex 10c after it dropped 5 mins ago

>>123439240
Maybe it's because you have a huge-ass monitor and are sitting too close to it? I specifically keep my 17' 5:4 for older games.
Anyway, if you (and hundreds of thousands) have played D2 with no issues, maybe something has changed in your pc setup. Or you have grown up picky and whiny. Or developed some eyesight problems (not to say that lower fps couldn't be an issue for others). Or you are comparing it to something silkysmooth and thus are annoyed by the difference.

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>>123440050
>Maybe it's because you have a huge-ass monitor and are sitting too close to it?
Nope. I have a 24" Eizo monitor and a 50" Vizio TV. It's called motion clarity.

>Anyway, if you (and hundreds of thousands) have played D2 with no issues, maybe something has changed in your pc setup
lol. and millions of gigantic shit eating faggots play video games on 60hz sample and hold monitors with no problems yet their entire screen is one of the most painfully disgusting blurry pieces of watery dogshit I've seen in my entire life. I'd kill myself if I were you.

>Or you have grown up picky and whiny
Words of wisdom from the generation that grew up with blurry as fuck LCD panels instead of crystal clear CRT's and preach the benefits of IPS monitors without owning a single color calibration tool to reap the benefits of one.

In short: You're a fucking moron. Kill yourself, retard.

>>123440701
You are obviously agitated, this being the shitposting general and all, and I won't write an aggressive response despite me being actually polite and calm in my wording.

Just last month I've replayed Ultima V on an actual Commodore, and I bet your ass it wasn't on an LCD screen. However, I keep my 17' for things like D2 and it puts less strain to my eyes than CRT.

But you do seem to be quite agitated with your disproportionate response.

>>123441489
Holy shit you're retarded

>>123441489
>>123440050
>>123438014
Firstly, offtopic, so gtfo. You can only post cats, anime and blade meme builds here. Secondly, you are awfully polite for poeg, so gtfo once again.
>>123441767
>>123440701
Oh, classic butthurt. Never seen that one on poeg.

>>123442383
you're being made fun of retard

>>123442627
Cats can't reee, their vocal cords literally don't work that well.

>crit flicker strike comk blade vortex coc discharge

discuss~

https://www.poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgMA_rPpAt-KbRm9glcrwFQI9GpDvOo9X1JTl_SXle_r0B9Ms6cI2CQ2xR8CBAc6WFXGg9vjahZvNukkqhps73w8BcBmRUe1BOQin9-iAASzaPLwH3zZ9zJyqcT2xq4LYa9sn8unMJ7N0iFTpRynDF9fP8EEVbXvDhQg5FFQR_ZIjM89_MRYWGPYvf4Ktz6DzDwtg1-mVzrh8kX-jzWSTeMpLho-fLiRzs9-rY12rOoYu-3464IH8kHZfJBVGjhZ86yqLdKfPmhl892exTs7d1NR5p2uJy8D7jOHHb6Cx_noQYfPMlltX5g_J0rIbqq18hRx
Rate melee necro witch for hardcore The idea of the build is to use a 2h weapon to sweep everything away. Plan on using Bone offering to make myself super tanky, and with potentially 120% increased duration, it will last a hell of a long time. Might throw in immortal call/vaal immortal call, or something like that, for funsies.

>>123443412
>120 points
>barely any damage nodes despite going RT

it's shit senpai

might as well go crit staves, much easier to do from witch start

>>123425727
who is this semen demon?

>>123443412

>poebuilder

paid leagues when

>>123447235
playerbase is slit enough as it is, between sc/hc/temp leagues.
more leagues would just kill the game.

ggg will just milk poe for as long as possible.
they might give paid leagues as a "dying breath" cashgrab when the game is completely dead. and drop development immediately after.

>>123391185
H-how?

I did that boss multiple times with hard mods with just 75% resistance, it hits hard but not that hard esp not with 20k ES lol. I usually have about 5-6k hp (depending on build) when I get to 76 maps.

>>123447235
Self found league when.