/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

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>>123296271
I don't know how to read Chinese

Your game looks good. You're doing a great job.

>>123296507
it's Korean, tho. Try that.

>working on a somewhat successful game
>crippling depression

I'd throw away all my years of dev if it meant I was mentally ok

the only thing keeping me from killing myself is needing go finish this game for the sake of the others working on the project

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Here's a change of 'pace'.. heh

>>123296896
Seems to be a pretty constant pace, really.

I love your progress, CASH_OUT dev.
Keep em coming.

>>123296546
Thanks man, I appreciate that.

>>123296687
I don't know that feel. Perhaps you should consider yourself fortunate that people are looking forward to something you're doing. I could disappear right now and none of the communities I visit would notice I was gone. They most likely never noticed I was there in the first place. It's a bad feel.

What would be examples of when branches or loops would be used in a shader?
Why support them if they're not used and just slow the pipeline down?

>>123297984
I don't know anything about shaders but I think those features may be there for the sake of making the language Turing complete.

>>123297753
ultimately you realize that none of it even matters

it's not fun anymore

all will be forgotten in 20 years

online communities only temporarily alleviate loneliness

all having a game has given me is a terrible and stressful sense of responsibility

as soon as it's done I'm done as well.
maybe even before then

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>>123296687
>>123297753
>depression meme
Stop being so negative and focus on short term goals it's not hard holy shit, if you have a religion spirituality can help if you don't find something else worth "fighting" for

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Alright, new version is live!

http://kish.itch.io/balls

Mostly minor fixes regarding the chat and there's an option now to play a sound notification when the match starts.

>>123298146
They don't have to be turing complete.
They have to calculate a value in finite time. Which is essentially just an expression.
I'm trying to think of an example of something you couldn't do without for/while/if statements.

Unity is so confusing. How many tutorials until it starts making sense. I've also read a bunch of the documentation. I just want to know the tool well enough that I don't get stuck transitioning ideas from my head regarding mechanics and UI into code.

>>123298313
Also playable at:
http://46.101.214.124:8080/

>>123296687
Berserk isn't finished yet and Evangelion 3 + 1 isn't out yet. Truly there's plenty to live for.

>>123298432
Nigga, it doesn't matter how much you read up on shooting guns, you'll never know what it's actually like until you shot the damn thing.

>>123298742
Shit taste, baka tbqh fampai.

>>123296090
Thank you for using an anime image :)

From last thread before it died:

I figure I'd help for the winter jam by doing a few quick NES style loops.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s194YGJgyYqu

If anyone needs anything, reply and I'll see what I can do.
Ta

why are you faggots attacking winter jam

>>123298936
Oh sorry I have translate that to mega shit taste... I think no horizon isn't finished yet so maybe you can enjoy your cowtit harem desu? Cohai bitch may also be looking forward to some shit like another season of strike the blood or Copellion.

>>123299475
don't listen to the haters
you are doing cool stuff
good job

>>123299475
its almost perfect but i need something slower
can we discuss this in private so there won't be 4 games with that melody

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>>123299071
Get checked for a brain tumor
>>123299475
Vocaroo fucks the quality use something else, I like it you should finish a song with it

>>123300509
who is she

>>123299475
Sounds nice. I'm making a game based a bit on an NES game, so I'd love a song in that style, once I've made some more progress I'll start posting.

>>123300893
me

>>123301009
Bullshit, nobody smiles on the internet.

So how did you guys learn how to code? What language do you use and why?

>>123298313

git gud, dev

>>123300080
>>123300509
>>123301000
>>123300305

thanks fellas, have another

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1QqCFVch9zQ

add me on skype at luke.sanderson18, if you need 8bit music doing then let me know and I'll give it a go

>>123302848
;_;

>>123302418
I recommend that you start with webgames and go from there, haxe/flash/js is pretty good (haxe being the superior tech atm)

>>123296090
we need to cut our hair like hopoo to become sucessful?

>>123303191
>tfw I will never have cute baby cheeks like hopoo

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How do you feel about the Source Engine?

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>>123303191
If you're going to mimic heads for success then go all out, mang.

>>123304184
I'd rather not be suicidal, thanks

>>123302973
honest criticism
I hear some strange staticy sound
it is quite offputting
it sounds like a very low pitch audio loop got distorted
either that or the quality of the output is low
I dunno if its intentional or not

keep doing what you do

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Question:
What should my total resolution be for this game?

>pixel, side view
>adventure game
>game maker
>designed for the computer
>16x16 px blocks
>3 block tall main character

>>123304132
Perfectly fine if you're making a multiplayer first person shooter with not huge maps

>>123304805
if it's anything below 4k lol @ u and ur toaster

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_5c8_PEYdw
After watching this I want to make a supermodel sim agdg


give me some ideas on gameplay

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>>123304881
what if I'm making a comfy top gear esque roadtrip driving adventure game with a brush based vehicle

>>123305345
I expect this project to last exactly 10 hours

>>123305916
Well you're wrong i already gave up

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>>123306223
I'm upset but also aroused. this will be implemented. gg homie. you made the thing happen

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>>123306223

>>123306501
>be about 12 years old
>get GTA 2 for my friend that live nearby
>i teach him how to change the car sprites
>he made a dentist car with a huge toothbrush on top
>we stopped talking years ago

just thought i should share it

>>123306792
GTA was truly golden for modding

GTA3 and its sequels on that engine were fantastic. including San Andreas. VC a best tho

>>123304805
please halp

>>123307305
if pixel i think 64x64 is good
for regular 2d maybe 128

>>123307436
I mean what is a good total room size in pixels

>????x???

How to make a life simulator like the Sims or Harvest Moon or even Animal Crossing 'fun and interesting'?

>>123307674
i do 250 but i also do regular 2d

in pixel art everything is small as fuck so it doesn't matter just do it x2 times the size of your character

>>123307830
1 Grind
2 art style
3 "mini-games" / "events"
the most important is the learning/exploration built into the grind/world

Help I'm running out of good variable names

>>123305345
quiet audio loud music god fucking damn

>>123307830
You don't, you make them comfy

>>123308182
>naming variables
Just make one big array and refer to them by the number

>>123308121
>learning/exploration built into the grind/world
Do you think either is possible in a side scrolling setting?
I ask because other perspectives have exhausted me.

>>123307830
P-O-R-N

Order of game making from easy to harder:


1. Snake
2. Ping Pong
3. Asteroids
4. Space Invaders
5. Tetris
6. ?


Agree or disagree? Suggestions?

>>123308630
you just gotta do it right
I don't have all the answers
spend time brainstorming

>>123308903
I'd put pixelated 2d platformer above tetris.

>>123296687
>somewhat successful game
If you know its going to make money, pay someone to speed things up

>>123308903
I've never made Snake but I'd imagine it is harder than Pong

>>123308903
Swap snake and pong.

6 would be a simple 2d platformer.

>>123309210
I made snake and I tried to make pong and failed
snake is easy because grid and no collisions

>>123309671
have you ever made grid-based movement, before?

>>123309804
Yes, I made snake. My post needs a ","

>>123309154

I wish I had a brain.
But yes, I will. My ability to limit my own ambition and scope is not very good.
Neither is my coding hayooooo

I feel like Pong would be easier than Snake. Unless its like PC vs AI Pong.

>>123304609
thats vocaroo im afraid, its cripsy in my tracker

>>123309906
that's actually my fault, completely missed you mentioned you had made snake. But thinking about it again, I think you're right. Snake's "collision" would only be checking for entities in the same cell.

Then again, I jumped straight at continuous methods of movement and coded my own collision detection. Never made a grid-based game, ever.

So making an RTS is actually quiet difficult.

http://strawpoll.me/6094152
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http://strawpoll.me/6094152

>>123310263
I imagine it is. But if some studio decided to go for it a serious thing, it wouldn't be a bad bet. RTS doesn't have much good choice, right now.

>>123302980
Great job dev :))
still procrastinating and not making progress though ;_;

>>123309197
>pixelated
Ah the old "art style is a genre of game" meme. Love it.

>>123310879
lmao stop making pixelated platformers dude

>>123311017
Don't worry friend, I'm making a vector 2D platformer.

>>123310459
I think an indie RTS would be awesome, but by the looks of it you need a lot of programming experience to get it right. I'm just playing around and getting the path finding to work half decent is intense.

>>123311178
I remember reading up on some programming solutions they implemented on the first StarCraft and shit was hardcore.

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Hello everyone!

I decided that I didn't like how MonoGame handled Sprite Fonts, so I wrote my own Sprite Font class, made my own Sprite Font and wrote a handler class for them. Now they're much more manageable!!

Writer.Write() makes a cute dialogue box appear and types the text out character-by-character, but if you press space it will automatically finish whatever it was typing. The text box and its position, font, font size, text colour, kerning, spacing between lines, typing speed etc. can all be customized in the Write() method.

I don't have New Lines working yet, though, and I forgot to add spaces to my sprite font, so for now it just produces one long line of uninterrupted text! Oh well, easy stuff to fix.

What do you guys think about this font? I want it to be stylish without being hard to read. I think it might be too weird and I should find something more normal. I might keep this font and use it situationally, and pick a different font for menus and dialogue and stuff.

Also, I got my driver's license today! A little late (19), but, better late than never. Glad I got it before the snow got any heavier!

Fucking game maker studio fucking randomly deletes objects and sometimes randomly overwrites code.

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>>123311107
I'm really a sucker for nice, clean vector art. The fact that it's so underused in games nowadays makes me very sad.

>>123311492
Gamemaker is a toy. Time to move to a real engine.

>>123311551
mostly because there's a subtle line between clean quality vector art and clean beginner/lazy vector art, also masses can't tell the difference/all vector is cheap, and so something texture heavy has more overall value for the masses

>>123310459
>>123311178
Grey Goo failed despite getting quite a lot of media attention.

>>123311459
congrats
how is working in monogame so far?
seems like people sperg about outdated xna stuff

>>123311774
What's the latest RTS that succeeded? I'm struggling to think of one.

>>123311492
why would you use GM in the first place
GM is only slightly easier than using a framework

>>123311605
A toy that can get you millions of dollars.

>>123311929
Wargame: Red Dragon?

>>123311819
People knock XNA, but I enjoy working in it as an environment. Everything makes sense, it does just the right amount of 'helping', it's easy to get running and with MonoGame it's very multi-platform. I've heard people talk about why they dislike it, and I'm sure their criticisms are valid, but for a 2D game with simple graphics it's more than adequate.

MonoGame isn't quite ready, it's missing some features that were pretty standard in XNA (content pipeline is still really unpredictable and their pipeline tool feels like a bit of a hack rather than a real feature), but since I've seen MonoGame come a long way already I don't doubt that they'll sort this out in the future. In the meantime, it's not too hard to add them myself.

In a nutshell, I use it because it works and I already know how to use it. In the future, maybe I'll learn something else.

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i want to make a fighting game

>>123312851
me too

>>123313221
lets team up

>>123312102
>succeeded

>>123313406
i lied

>>123312851
dont make it like street fighter IMO

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Enemies "activate" upon sight (sound will be done later, need to look into flood fill), and can now die.

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>>123313528
i cant make it like anything because im terrible at just make game

>>123313742
why then git hub

>>123312851
Make a Punch Out clone

>>123313719
forget flood fill for sounds, anon. Use a simple spherical surface, that expands. Invisible, of course. Whatever is inside the sphere hears the sound.

>>123313450
Half a million copies sold is something that I would consider a success, yes. Especially when the base price is 40$/€.

>>123313878
what

>>123296687
Go see a psychiatrist, maybe get prescription for some depression meds (not all of them make people feel empty rather than just not-depressed).

>>123313742
you can do it anon sucking at something is the first step to becoming sorta good at something

>>123314245
i already spent 6 months working on a failed project

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>>123307863
>Character is 52x32
>Room would be 104 pixels
Can you draw what you're trying to say?

What pixel length and width would produce a good looking environment for my 52 pixel tall humanoid character that will be platforming around outside and in dungeons? I'm not dense I just can't understand what you are trying to say.

>>123311998

I can't really code. I mean I can code in game-makers easy language, but I can't really code and fuck learning that on top of everything.

>>123314464
did you start another project yet?

>>123314464
Then you tried too large of a project. Start simpler.

what happened to agdg? why are there so many blog posters now?

>>123314845
no
>>123314896
my mistake was trying to use source engine

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>>123314962
>no
why not?

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>>123296090
Anyone here use Discord?

I wouldn't mind having a chat just for everyone to keep in touch on there as well as the two in the OP

https://discord.gg/0fAPCtLaw8D0aTZt

How much harder is, say, löve2d compared to game-maker?

>>123315124
not that knowledgeable on Love2d, but I believe there's no drag'n'dro in it?

>>123315124
about 200%

>>123315124
gamemaker has built in simple physics which lua does not have, it has box2d which is heavy. its also just a fancy wrapper around sdl/opengl so all it really provides is placing/moving sprites and simple geometry, everything else is up to you.

>>123296687
this, although once my game is finished i'll have an excuse to kill myself, since it'll be proof I didn't squander my life

>>123316248

Hm, sounds interesting. Thanks.

>>123315994

Ok, I hope you are right because I am willing to stretch to maximum 210%

>>123296687

Meds help, in my case a psychiatrist didn't though. Take meds a short while, figure out the root cause of your problem and fix it. Maybe you are fat, then you need to get thin. Maybe you are alone, then you need a girl.

>>123296090
>yeah i can make it to the winter jam
>suddenly remember I'm slow as shit

>>123316759
You have a whole month anon. You can do it.

>>123315043
ive lost motivation towards making a game.
i really want to work on my art. but i dont have a programmer slave

>>123317054
show art, the easiest way to find a programmer is showing your art to people. if someone thinks your art is good they'll be your programmer. if you get no programmers who want work with you after you post it then it means it has to be better and its a waste of time to try to work with a programmer anyway before its good

>>123317180
cant pay a good programmer on hopes and dreams

>>123316759
that's why it's okay to start early. just begin right now

>>123317624
It's the other way around fampai.
Artists are on way higher demand than coders for indie games. The programmer is usually the one that works for free.

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>spontaneously think of a nice melody for a song in my game
>can't figure out if it's just ripped from a song in my latent memory
Whatever, I guess

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Got this working

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>>123318347
what if it is?

lately humanity has an exaggerated sense of originality.

just do it. do not waste time/ideas/money on ifs and buts

>>123314483
im just not doing pixel art
its something a form of art that restricts you in every possible way and i don't advocate using it

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>>123296090
Progress

Making some progress getting the netcode to work, working in online and syncing everything perfectly is seriously hard, in fact im still having an issue with the player syncronization if the camera is moving, working on getting all the menus and shit to work at the moment, not bad for a couple of weeks work but im a while off yet, still need to do some actual art

Oh im gonna be releasing it for free so when its actually playable and doesnt look like shit il let you guys know

>>123317941
nope
web devs have more work than anyone else

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>>123318347
>can't figure out if it's just ripped from a song in my latent memory
It really doesn't matter. Just do it, you'll find a way to put a spin on it to make it original for sure as you build it into a real song.

>>123317624
... if you're working with someone else usually you work a rev share deal. 50/50

>>123317624
its ok anon, your art is shit and youll keep making excuses about why you cant make a game. i understand how you feel. i got over it though and i manned up. if you cant post your art here because youre afraid people will make fun of you then youll never improve. i find it funny how the loser mentality is so prevalent with people who fail. is it a coincidence? i dont think so

>>123317624
>>123319745
There are plenty of good programmers who will take a revenue share option if you have good art. When it comes to indie developers good artists have the upper hand on good programmers.

>>123319590
We are talking about indie games, fampai.

Does anyone here produce music?

You should link your soundclouds. I'm trying my best to make music for my game, but its a bit of an ordeal to get the right balance of upbeat and non-intrusive.

Similar to the intro of the song "Faded" by ZHU.

>>123320175
that might be true but from personal experience its not recommended to ask for help or offer help here

Where is all the progress?

AGDG used to be booming with tonnes of people posting.

What an anime-encrusted shithole it has become.

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Made a wall texture today
Not quite sold on it. At least not in combination with the brighter one.

>>123321347
it's a hundred times better now than it was along the last weeks. Shitposting was at an all time high.

>>123321347
And then people like you come around and contribute nothing, only sparking yet another argument about how dead agdg is.
Take a better look at this thread alone, there is plenty of progress. It's a bit slower, but there's still progress.
Why don't you post some progress too?

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>>123321347
>anime-encrusted shithole
>zero (0) anime images ITT

>>123321482
>Not quite sold on it.
Yeah the beige bricks look far cleaner than the darker ones. It looks like those have been rotting hundreds of years more, i guess it's because the moss is so pronounced, but i'm not an artbro so it's just how i feel about it.

>>123321347
Anime games are top tier

I keep playing warframe guys, halp. I just want to make awesome low poly mech models!

>>123321901
>It looks like those have been rotting hundreds of years more

funny that you say that cause the bricks i made that texture from are pretty much exactly 100 years old.

but yeah the other one are too clean.

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>>123321482
i like it
looks straight from AOE3
here some of mine but its not game related

>>123322221
Are you the Hungarian (I think) anon who was doing 3D scanning a little while ago?

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>>123322659
>not going crazy with crazybump

hahahahahahahaha

>>123322659
Nah.. i'm the guy that was making handpainted asset packs though

>>123323253
KINGS

FIELD

i give up

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>>123323371
alright, take care

>>123321482
the random poly brigs sticking out are a nice touch

what's setting you off is how clean/pristine/uniform it is.

add some secondary maps to underline water drain paths/ dirt/grime/"rot"

>>123321482
just another 3d game that will never be made

if this was pixel art it'd be done a week ago

I left agdg a month or two ago cause of all the "baka desu :^)" spammers. Have they all died yet?

@123324145
Clever girl

>>123323310
>tfw found out
>perceived expectations suddenly sky rocketing

Well shit

>>123324145
not really desu senpai

baka

>>123324186
I think it's just me. All I want is a KF game with decent controls. Seriously, I don't want you to be pressured.

>>123323801
Joke's on you. My 2D skills are shit.

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>>123305345
everyone's doing that natalie dormer smirk

>>123324289
>tfw anon-senpai believes in you
With your love i can make it anon!

I believe it's save to say that the amount of KF players on the entirety of 4chan is about 10 people though.

hehehehehehehehehehe

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>>123321838
>>123323724
foiled, everyone post anime

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Hooray for progress.

Can any engine dev bros fill me in on how to use newer OpenGL functions in Windows?

GLEW doesn't play nicely with SDL and C++, and manually loading extensions is a pain in the ass.

>>123316258
Everyone wants to at some point, but we never have the courage to say goodbye to food and the other temporary pleasures when it comes time to actually do it.

Don't worry too much, life is short anyway.

>>123327538
you need to include glew before opengl

>>123327538
>GLEW doesn't play nicely with SDL and C++
Yes, it does.

>>123328016
>>123328164
>having to move my #include directives in between this one, but not that one, and can't be in a header file
Yeah that's my definition of playing nicely.

>>123328387
Christ, just include GLEW before SDL and call it a day.

>>123328387
>not having one pre-compiled header that has inclusions already set properly that's included in every .cpp of your project

You're complicating your life for no reasons

>>123327538
https://www.opengl.org/wiki/Load_OpenGL_Functions
and
https://www.opengl.org/wiki/OpenGL_Loading_Library
Specifically, glLoadGen.

How do I make a tycoon game fun?

The last tycoon game I played was rollercoaster tycoon 2 over 10 years ago

>>123330036
First step, define "fun".

After you fail that (you're going to fail that) you can decide which enjoyable elements of video games you want to maximize for, and it will be lot easier to think about.

>>123330213
>First step, define "fun".
The player wants to keep playing it

>>123330036
For me the biggest source of fun was seeing expansion. If I was building a theme park tycoon, that could be showed with the park expanding, bigger rides, etc. One tycoon game I played was based around selling lemonade. As you progressed through the game, you went from a little stand on the street to an actual store.

>>123330213
Don't listen to this bozo.

>>123330213
The ability to make wild rides that you can't get off of.
Also giant skeletons.

>>123330672
Meant to reply to >>123330036

But I guess that's a definition of fun too.

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>>123330339
>>123330036
>>123330213
>>123330809
>>123330372
>fun

Remember when agdg was not dead?

>>123333219
Everyone's too busy making PROGRESS

>>123333286
y-yeah

>>123330339
So relentlessly addictive is how you define fun? Got it.

What you want to do is make your game a skinner box. Look it up.

Anyone know of a good pixel art program that is still free as in freedom?

Or a NURBS modeling program?

>>123333653
GIMP
Blender

They're not really similar at all though.

>>123333438
>the only way to keep people playing is to make it a skinner box
damn...so this is the power of the critical deconstruction...woah

>>123333438
>skinner box
C O M M O N _ M E M E

>>123333438
"want to" vs. "need to", maybe

>>123333806
Did I say it was the only way?

>>123333883
You implied it. Hard.

>>123333883
pretty much, yeah

>>123333914
>>123334032
You know we're Anonymous, right? There's no need to save face.

>>123334052
>y-you're just damage controlling
baka senpai

>>123334052
>more than 2 people agree
>M-MUST BE SAMEFAG

danny stop

>>123333914
>>123334032
>>123334107
>>123334195
Literally samefagging to save face. Stop posting.

>>123334301
No GETs on /vg/ except zeroes

>>123334195
Huh I wasn't even calling you guys out for samefagging. I was just saving time on saying the same thing twice.

>work on something big & difficult
>have to pee
>come back to a lost train of thought
>have to reread from line 0 to understand exactly what you were doing

it's also when i take a break to shitpost on 4chan

>>123333789
>interfaces designed by crab people for crab people
>not really useable by lesser people with human hands
Man I wish aseprite was still Free and that Wings3d somehow did NURBS

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>>123334416
>actually entering damage control mode and not just admitting his language was too strong and/or providing alternatives to his dank SKINNER BOX memeing

>>123334448
Do you not leave notes/comments for yourself, Anon?

>>123334448
Next time take your laptop with you and keep devving when you sit down

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take any game and add moba elements to it

>>123330339
That's not an adequate definition of fun, that's just a goal. In any case that's just as useless for actually trying to approach your goal (unless perhaps you're ok with addictive gameplay over something more earnest).

>>123336028
Warcraft 3.

Wait, shit.

>>123319908
not the person you're replying to but im here to say that you're a good guy anon

>>123319908
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias

But yeah, loser mentality is bound to cause to self fulfilling prophecy shit.

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>>123336028
Future Cop LAPD

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This is my new game w/ about 3 days of work. You can shoot stuff & do long jumps.

>>123338134
is this the undertale sequel

>>123338134
>heart farts little hearts

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h-hi aggydaggy

>>123339016
Blue splash in purple water?

In any case those sure are some sexy ground tiles!

Hey you! Don't make a good game, make a GREAT GAME!!!!!!!!!

>>123339312
I'm starting off on the right foot by making a great language.

>>123339016
is that in haxeflixel

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>>123339517

>>123339016
nice colors and character

>>123340443
Technically, I'm not making the language just to make a game, but a game is a pretty good project to be able to give the language some serious use. If I didn't care about also developing the language in the process, I'd just be using C++ or Rust or something.

Hmm... to make a winter jam game, or focus on pushing out my first demo for demo day... that is the question

>>123342286
demo for demo day.

>>123342286
Demo day.

Jams are good if you're shit at gamedev and need practice. If you're making your big game idea though, your time is probably better spent on your game.

Is it even worth it

>>123343073
Only if you are skilled and have a great idea.
Otherwise you can just be like most shitters here and make a game "for fun" that no one will ever play.

>>123343073
No.

Gamedev is enjoyable sure, but if you're in it for the money, you'll be sorely disappointed.

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New enemy yooooooo
It can block your shit

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Game with your favorite quests?

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>>123344272

>>123344337
f2p or paid quests?

does anyone here actually use an ECS?

>>123343683
can enemies only attack you from the side because you were too lazy to animate it?

>>123344778
It's not finished yet, I'll be working on the top and down animations later.
After I got the side attack in I wanted to see how it looked in game

>>123344928
that will be a lot of work (triple the amount of frames)

was it worth it over making it a sidescroller?

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>>123344337
>you will never beat dragonslayer for the first time ever again

>>123345050
He's been working on the game for like 3 years now so I think he knows what he's gotten himself into.

I'm using singletons and you can't stop me

>>123345129
>been working on the game for 3 years
If he knew what he's gotten into, he'd be done by now

>>123345129
>more than 3 years for a pixelshit game
jesus christ

>>123338134

Orthographic projection for a 3D platformer sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

>>123345409
My point is that you shouldn't newsplain.

Newsplaining is a word I just made up. It's like mansplaining but instead it's a newfag trying to tell an oldfag how it is.

>>123345470
>>>/v/

Do you know of any other sidescrolling RPGs beside Valkyrie Profile and Darkest Dungeon?

>Gender Bender DNA Twister Extreme
>released nov 23rd
>Owners: 3,830 ± 1,496
>25$
>"Over 375,000 words"
Why aren't you make extremely shitty porn VN's agdg?

>>123344337
you've got to be fucking kidding me

>>123345639

If you mean platformer/turn-based RPG hybrids then Indivisible is in the process of crowdfunding right now.

If you mean real-time combat there's a few of them like Fortune Summoners or MapleStory on Steam.

>>123345706
I was gonna but then a buddy offered to program my shitty porn pixel platformer instead.

My game is technically a playable game, but it's missing 90% of it's intended features

I can do a kickstarter now right?

>>123345706

That's a 50% margin of error but even at the high end the ratio of work:payoff is pretty low. 4k sales after over two years of development is barely minimum wage for a single developer. If the sales were actually lower or they had more than one person to pay...that's not great.

>>123346010
There's plenty of 5k sale games for 5$ that can't have more than a month or two of solid effort

>>123345773
I mean literally any RPG in which exploration is identical to that of a sidescroller. Now that I think of it Paper Mario fits too.

>>123346904

Sure but the one linked there specifically has been in early access since Aug 2013.

>>123347059
Girlfriend Rescue, 5$, 3,217 ± 1,371
shitty rpg maker game
july

Lucky Rabbit Reflex!
20$, 3,217 ± 1,371
Oct 9, 2015

>>123345393
Why would I? I want you to finish your game, anon.

>>123339016
PORN
WHEN

>>123347517
Dude it's a dog what the fuck.

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>>123348295
And?

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>>123348295
>>123347517
>>123339016
While we're partially on topic. Someone know the source of this? I must play.

>tfw submit a broken as fuck programming assignment
well shit :/

>>123348368
https://inkbunny.net/Harmarist
http://harmarist.tumblr.com/

>>123339016
Is this the one with the slime at the start? didn't know you posted here. seriously though, needs more porn

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guys HELP i got too drunk to dev and now i feel sick. what game should i make in this state?

>accidently an infinite loop
>have to kill Unity
>lose a couple hours progress
yes retards I saved. This is from corrupted Prefabs. GG unity.

>>123348467
>pic
Furry one, duh

>>123348428
Thanks bud. Doesn't seem like the project is ongoing anymore though, at least I don't see anything on their IB page that's recent. Hopefully they didn't abandon it

>>123348368
>1280x720
toaster-fags need to be shot.

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>>123348546
Still ongoing. Gotta get around to making some gifs for tumblr sometime, it's where stuff related to it will go.

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>>123345706
>thought you were making fun of another game
>it's real
http://store.steampowered.com/app/321060/

welp no more excuses

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>>123348543
but i only like games that trigger my "all things must be done perfectly or they're irredeemable shit" psychosis

in my opinion, if you can't complete a game in a single (very high stress, like 360 BPM) breath, it's game worth playing

>>>/vg/srg

what's it like to be in love, agdg?

>>123348825
why wold we know

>>123348825
why would we know

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>>123348742
>the scene is still censored on tumblr

Goddammit. I figured the christian image board thing was just someone fucking around on 4chins

>>123348749
>that webm

>>123348825
it's like assaulting up an alley full of stairs with hostile agents waiting to blow your head off with a shotgun, but the point you're trying to assault to is perpetually up the next staircase/ridge/whatever

being loved is deeply stressful and tbqh roleplaying hostage situations that did actually dictate whether I'd eat the next day was a more pleasant experience

>>123348825
Honestly after being cheated on and having my heart truly broken, if I had the opportunity to reverse the whole ordeal and remain celibate forever, I'd take it

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>>123348983
bnpr/japanese blender artists continue to inspire and motivate me

>>123348976
Sorry buddy. How am I gonna convince people to play my shitty pixel platformer if I just give them the lewd things without it?

>>123349307
The promise of further lewd things in the following stages, of course. That tease no es bueno.

>>123349334
vine ;)

>>123348368
shitty furfag btfo by >>123339016
u madd faggy furry shitdev with fake load screens?

>>123349412
>I need others to tell me what to do
What a fucking kek.

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>>123349421

>>123349421
wat

>>123349057
I think everyone should experience loving someone and being loved back at least once. And then they can realign their emotional needs to not need to rely on any other human being for the rest of their lives if they desire. This is the ideal situation because at least you know what you're giving up and you know if it's right or wrong for you to give it up, and it feels more like a choice and less like you're a loser.

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So /agdg/

Since I'm a talentless faggot and still want to make games, I've been analyzing what parts make a game appealing to me. Which seems to be:

1.Quality art/style
2.Gameplay
3. Innovation
4. Atmosphere

And of course I'm shit at all of these. But art is certainly the worst. I love pixel art so I downloaded something like 20 different tutorials yesterday and have been slowly reading through them. One common theme I keep seeing is that antialiasing of a sprite is stupidly important to get right since it rounds edges or creates definition on a picture that otherwise has none.

Is this something that just comes with time? Or is there a surefire method not to fuck up?

As for drawing sprites as a whole, I'll remind you I'm shit at drawing. Should I just copy other peoples sprites pixel for pixel for 9000 hours yil something starts to click? Or keep drawing my shitty cat heads until I reach my planar form?

>>123349536
Since art is the most important and gameplay comes second, you should learn how to make mediocre gameplay and then hire an artist to make art instead of making shitty art and shitty gameplay

>>123349536
learn how to draw instead

not pixel art

actual drawing

>>>/g/51518509
Go to /g/, you said.
Fuck youu

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>>123349478
anything else is selfish

and there's way faster/easier ways to please yourself if your own happiness is all you care about

>>123349504
what is he pondering

>>123349536
Either art or programming it's going to take 5 years to get good at it to the point where people wanna buy your thing. Choose one, ask people for advice on how you should progress (for instance, >>123349639 is right, you should get an idea of the basics first instead of directly going for pixel art) and keep at it for years. The more you do it the faster you'll get there. It's a grind, like an MMO. Put in the time and be constantly self-aware of your current power level, so you never get stuck in one place for too long and you're always looking to improve areas you're lacking.

>>123349614
If I can't make half decent art myself, how will I explain to someone else what I want? Also I'm a tryhard who wants to be good at everything. All of my friends and girlfriend are artists. I need to get gud.

>>123349660
Then why are you complaining about being unhappy when you could just ignore your own happiness and make content for gmod?

>>123349743
My biggest problem with art has always been consistency and not knowing how to improve when I hit a wall. Since I started drawing for real when I was older and compared myself to people who already knew what they were doing. I had no one as bad as me to compete or compare with.

I imagine I can't just keep following tutorials start to finish until I'm good. But I need some way of dealing with walls. Are there any legit helpful art communities for losers like me that aren't filled with furries?

>>123349778
>All of my friends and girlfriend are artists.
Find the cucck among them and have them do art for you for FREE. You can google for existing art to give them an impression of what you want.

Don't do this until you've gotten at least a prototype with gameplay though.

mobile game called

k80/e <3 current_z

>>123349958
I'm a programmer, so I can't help you there.

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NEVER GIVE UP

>>123349985
also katy perrys next album

Question:

Is it kosher for a composer to post here to see if anyone needs music written for their game?

what if game dev was just the way to learn that all creative/constructive pursuits are pointless, and the true way to go is to just destroy others' dreams as mine have been destroyed

my most fulfilling job ever has been with the military, and my most fulfilling moments have been where I wanted to vomit out of panic for not shooting tight enough groupings to make par at a practice session

>>123349903
>Then why are you complaining about being unhappy
you are dumb as shit
>when you could just ... make content for gmod?
the audience is made up of unpleaseable autists, which is troubling, because they are the easiest audience to please. Any time I've proposed anything standalone, it's been met with nothing but complaints at best, and months of psychotic shitposting from here and repeated calls to cease and desist whether I wast working on it or not from real life friends at worst

>>123349958
read loomis homie

use references you stupid piece of shit

>>123350050
that's a really horrible example. that person can barely draw stylized poses from what's shown and then they're trying to draw a scene when they know nothing about basics of composition. don't post that again pls

>>123350050
>/ic/ memes: the image: on ice

>>123350161
>I don't want to make things I want to make because I'm not important
>I don't want to make things for others because what they want doesn't make me happy
Holy shit just off yourself already kiddo

>>123350283
That's just three months of progress, though.

>>123350050
Damn, all that study and when it finally comes time to draw without a reference, he's complete ass.

>>123350339
>>I don't want to make things I want to make because I'm not important
why would you? you're not important so it won't reach anyone.
>I don't want to make things for others because what they want doesn't make me happy
Why would you make it if it doesn't make you happy to make?

>>123350374
No, it's years of progress and 3 months of refining. He didn't literally just pick up a pencil and in 3 months got there.

>>123350416
>Waah nobody likes what I like gamedev is impossible ;'((((

>>123350134
Anyone have an answer?

Just want to make it's cool before I start whoring myself out

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>>123350830
well, my job is the only fulfilling thing around anymore, and that's just enabling hurting people; when I volunteer for things that should help others, it's always awkward and I'm told I've done a bad job even when I do my best and it seems things go off without a cinch. I get the best notes ever when I do things that either hurt others, or are training to hurt others.

I really don't like hurting people but maybe I'm only around to hurt people???? It seems to be the only thing I'm ever rewarded for.

>>123350884
You can post your songs/soundcloud here

>>123350134
>>123350884
Yes.

However
>expecting partnerships made on AGDG to work out

>>123351230
Cool

>>123351253
I'm expecting it to basically just be practice for me

>>123351217
Nah man.

>"I want to be told what to do"
>"but only if I also like it"

You're a little bitch, man up and start deving or blog elsewhere.

>>123351317
>deving
I legit tried and then people would have day-long psychotic breaks about it

and then I went away for a summer to learn how to keep a ship from sinking while I'm on it and it all got so, so much worse

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>people are still replying to the source retard

>>123350050
>no mention of animation studies
>MAKIN A CARTOON
oh ok

Can i make it as 1MA and shit drawing ability?

>>123351489
no

>>123351578
fuck

does changing the near plane and far plane of the view frustum have any effect on perspective or is it only used for clipping objects that are too far away?

>>123350578
That is 3 years of piddling practice and 3 months of actual practice. People need to realise you can learn to draw in _6 months_ of proper practice. From zero to photo-real and beyond.

That is what he means by 'actually' read.

>>123351651
Only clipping. The chosen values affect precision (z-fighting).

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progress
Now you have to do a little minigame when you run nmap, you bounce packets off computers on the network to figure out their exact location. 100% stolen from a microsoft game in the 90s

>>123352292
great progress, anon. I am glad you still developing hacking game.

>>123352540
thanks, watching it get streamed from demoday was a huge boost. Feels like Im avoiding making story content for it though.

>>123352292
Seems like your game has a weird mix of needing outside knowledge and then abstractions to make things easy.

Or will players know everything they need to know from inside the game itself?