/gerg/ - Giant Extreme Robutts General

>>122830879
>thread so alive there's two of them
kek

>>122833841
>thread so dead there won't even be one

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>no thread for almost a full 24 hours

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I have no idea what these placeholders are supposed to be, but who the fuck cares, they finally got rid of the no signal.

>>122839168
Implying anyone cares

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>>122839371

https://www.instagram.com/p/-STT25jPrI/

It took them 4 years, but they finally solved this deep rooted cryengine error.

>>122839371
HOLY SHIT THEY ANIMATE WITH KILL FEED.

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>>122848067
HUcast misses you a lot.

He's sad that you don't talk to him anymore.

>>122839371
>>122848067


Interdasting. What is the ETA of teh HUEG framedrop?

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Oh boy, a new grab deal!

I find it funny that the "newbie" Performance Pack mechs are 75% laservomit with the exception of the assaults.

>>122839371
>>122848067
I think its funny that we're losing the fun of watching MWO crash and burn in return for the fun of a better MWO. I think its actually less fun, but what can ya do?

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>>122856247

>a better MWO.

>>122856486
I know it sustains you, but all good things come to an end, man. The suffering will continue.

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>>122856486
They actually made a lot of headway this year compared to previous years. How the fuck this happened I do not know.

>>122853567
>they are all SEPARATE deals
>$180 for 8 mechs, all with phranken camo, 3 colours, 10500 MC, 17,5million cbills, and 120 days premium time.
>$180 fucking dollars
>for that little

Lol.

Okay, so... I'm stuck between two options.

I'm in need of a clan assault mech, but the warhawk and dire wolf are hella expensive packages. I've already bought the hellbringer pack, and the jenner IIC pack.

So the question is;

should I buy the Executioner pack (which, to my eye, looks like a clan version of the Zeus with jump jets and a MASC) or should I double down and buy the Highlander IIC pack (which literally is a clan version of the highlander)?

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>>122857603

Transverse cost them a lot of money, time, and almost all their skilled employees.

It was either do something with MWO, or go out of business.

All that said, the work they've put into robots is still barely above minimally viable. Oh my god, but we have static images in our cockpits now, and a kill counter.

>>122860489
They're not static, they're animated. Even if they're .gifs.

>>122860381
Executioner is too niche at the moment and its most important defining features (MASC, jumpjets) are weak in MWO. Go for the Highlander IIC.

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>>122839371
>some Mech cockpits will now have seven identical non-functional radar displays

Not sure if that's better or worse.

>>122862396
Game's in the best shave ever. Look at all the progress!

Now buy some mechpacks, devs gotta eat.

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>>122862396

Clearly it was what they suggested with this mockup picture from 3 years ago.

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>>122862619
Pretty much the only reason to keep MWO afloat is for them to make new Mech models for BattleTech to use properly in 2017. Expect a non-functional Hatchetman soon.

Any decent studio would have a complete fun game after all these years.

I don't understand how you retards have come to conclusion that PIGs efforts are in any way acceptable.

A fucking indie studio could do a better job with all this time and money.

>>122862964
>suddenly in autumn 2016
>PGI surprise introduces melee combat and the Hatchetman!

>>122863464
There's no way in hell the PIG has the technical competency for proper melee combat and physics.

>>122863572
Neither do 90% of game companies out there. Most of the time, melee weapons are simply hitscans with a very short range. Even then, the most that they would have to do with a more "physics-based" melee system is to reuse the collision detection and apply it to punches or the hatchet instead. When the hatchet hitbox contacts the enemy, the game simply recognizes that the mech is being hit by a hatchet rather than bumping into each other, dealing no damage to the wielder and 100% damage to the target.

>>122864157
Could have melee like the robots in Titanfall had. But this time around damage is based on your weight. Assaults do lie, 10-12 damage a punch, 20 ton lights do something like 2 damage a punch.

If they even have arms.

>>122864387
There is already a formula for melee damage. Punches are 1 point per tonnage / 10, rounded up. Kicks are roughly double that, tonnage / 5.

Since in a real time game your chances to hit an opponent are less of a dice roll, kicks will be relatively superfluous and only punches and hatchets/swords are needed for a decent melee system.

>>122857603
>>122857508
Closed beta was still beta

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Dead game.
Dead thread.

>norris returns to ask who the fuck everyone is on steam
well then

>>122871326
Norris has been returned for a while.

He just has no interest in robits and newfags

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>>122871326

It was a le epic meme. Get on mumble.

>>122872662
He can't robots. It won't install. So all his old man money can't be donated to Kong.

>>122877676
Norris would never hand over his jew dollars to anyone

Gaylust literally shilling fallout 4 right now.

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Deader than hawken general.

>>122839371
>replacing shitty no signal placeholders with shitty new place holders that mean literlaly nothing
>they convey no information at all to the pilot
>but people can no longer complain about them and look at the progress :^)

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>>122889161
>PGI can't into 1997 flightsim technology to have real time cockpit instrument displays

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>>122892414

>45.4 kilograms.

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>>122894494
It's clearly BattleTech fizzics where a kilogram is 2.863 pounds.

jesus fuck is there any way to build the black knight that doesn't make it suck ass?!

Try and boat mediums or either variety, and your shit gets pushed in from long range thanks to your fuckoff tall profile.

Try and boat large lasers, and the thing overheats like a motherfucker and wont cool off even when chainfiring.

Try and have a balanced build, and you'll barely do 300 damage while constantly at the 90% heat mark. With any luck you'll MAYBE manage to kill someone that's been damaged by someone else before.

>>122895589
3xllas rest mediums

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>>122895589

It's one of the worst mechs in the game for a reason.

>>122895720
That'll get fucked up the ass on larger maps like Alpine peaks, or any map with enough ground between two players. 3x ERLLs might have a fighting chance, but once again it hits the overheat meter like a depressed man hits the sauce.

>>122895853
>that pic
I can't even imagine how bad the thing is in CW.

>>122897381
With that logic every IS gets fucked on Alpine (which is true)

>>122897381
>>122895589
There are no ways to build the black knight. It DOES suck ass no matter what you do.

Clan heavies outperform it on so many levels it's not even funny. Fuck, even the hellbringer that's 10 tons lighter outperforms it both in damage AND durability.

Why do people say the hellbringer is good when the ebon jaguar has 5 more tons of space to work with? I mean yea it can mount a ECM but it doesnt have the energy hardpoints to boat lasers effectively nor does it have the tonnage to use ballistics like the jaguar can. And the missile hardpoints are just useless.

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>tfw Big Guy CIA keeps skill flexing your japanese Adonis.

>>122903782
Actually, the Hellbringer DOES energy boat effectively.

Poor bait.

>>122903965
how does it energy boat effectively when 4 hardpoints are on the left side, same as the ECM? The ebon jaguar has 5 more tons and has 6 energy hardpoints and they are more spread out.

>>122905063
5 hardpoints*

>>122905063
Hardpoints being spread out doesn't make it a good boat. In fact, it makes it worse when peaking, which is the thing you should be doing when playing an energy boat.

all the hardpoints on the left side means that people just need to shoot your LT off and you are rendered useless.

Jaguar is great for peaking because its like a mini stalker. Doesn't the hellbringer have those shitty low slung arms?

>>122905512
>4 incredibly high up hardpoints
>having a whole shield side
>shitty

it's great that we keep getting new players, I was worried the game was dying

>>122906170
>shield side
great because i can just blow off your LT. why the fuck would i aim for your shield side.

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>mfw no robots in the robot general.

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>>122907880
>literally every post except yours has been about robots

Is this a good config : ebon jaguar, 2 large pulse, 6 ER ML 24 DHS.

>>122909359

Yes. But you can't alpha strike twice in a row without overheating, even on cold maps.

Steam release next month. Brace yourselves.

>>122914751
so how do i make it better?

>>122915908

Chain fire?

>>122909359
6 ERML is too much senpai, even Timbers only use 4 ERML and 2 LPL.

>>122918210

Ebon Jaguars have more spare tonnage than timbers

why does PGI simplify the mechs to the same blocky humanoid look. The mechs are supposed to have little quirks or recognizable traits, many that fit their namesake.

The Wolfhound needs a wolf shaped head or atleast the "ears", the Black Knight needs it's iconic arm shield on one and long cannon on the other to emulate a sword. The Banshee needs it's screaming face to suit the name, right now it's generic assault mech look. Battlemaster needs it's handheld PPC gun, not just PGI cutting corners and pasting energy mounts on a generic assault arm.

This is genuinely infuriating to see how lazy they are with these current designs.

>>122906170
>it's great that we keep getting new players, I was worried the game was dying
It is surprising how newfags keep popping up.

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>>122925353
anon here that bitched about the Battlemaster a while back. My bigger concern was the models that are being included in HBS's Battletech game, since PGI's are utter garbage with some of the mechs.

I contacted HBS, here was a bit from their response:
"Since we're still in pre-production, it's just a little too early to say what direction some of the things you're asking about will go in."
so it's not quite 100% that PGI's models will be used.

We can only hope they'll have some better designs for the iconic mechs like pic related.

>>122925783
That is a better looking blargh, but the one we have isn't bad except for that one retarded hero variant.

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Anyone else going

>>122932580
>tina benoit
Haruko is french?

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>>122925353

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2015 will be different.

>>122936718
Only in that the line will be on the other side of the street heading towards that giant dumpster.

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No matter what, it won't be like this again.

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>not being this hardcore.

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This methhead dad will probably not be at the 2015 launch party.

Phil the shill will be, though.

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Still relevant.

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am I a good light mech pilot, guys?

>>122937681

i love how they never address the real problems

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>>122925353
Just where exactly do you people come from? Recently returned alien abductees who only ever got to see snippets of Battletech in the post-2000s and believed those were the original instances of the franchise?

>>122903782
Ummm what my favorite build is 4erll or gauss 5erml it boats fine

>>122905303
This all of this

>>122907820
>doesn't know how to torso twist or peek stay tier 5

>>122937002

>Bald
>Cosplay bought from company that makes band uniforms for highschools

fucking old men.

>>122938516
>damage that low
Only good at killstealing, it seems.

>>122945185
High level play means that torso twisting only works against fools without the self-control or discipline to wait for a clear shot.

It's like fighting games and wakeup shoryus.

>just doing like crap with the hunchback laserboat
>cant really break ~350 damage mark even if i'm constantly shooting fools in the back the entire match
>try the trial thunderbolt
>550 damage match
>750 damage match
>1060 damage match

holy fucking shit, screw the hunchback this is way better

Guys, what do these markers 'C' and 'H' on the nova portraits mean?

Does it mean most of the nova mechs have cbill boosts on them?

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>>122946894
forgot picture

>>122946972
maybe hero and champion

>>122950268
Wait, nova has 3 cbill boost hero variants?

>>122945045
>ERLL
enjoy getting shot at while you have the ridiculous 1.5 second burn time

Why can my thunderbolt have more armor on the rear of its torso than on the front?

>>122953093
screencap pls

>>122918210
i thought the whole point was to get the largest alpha.

>>122918108
chain firing 8 lasers is just too slow and doesn't work against people who torso twist or use cover.

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Robots.

>>122946972
you are not planning to buy a nova right? its shit.

>>122954423
you trying to be funny boy? *flexes penis*

>>122953334

Wait, MWO doesnt have an inbuilt screenshot thing?

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Real robots.

>>122953093
Every robot can fâm t'bh îmo

age

>>122954650
vass i swear to god mate i wil lwreck you

>>122954593
F12

I stopped playing just before they released those gold colored mech skins. Whats new in the game and should I reinstall it?

>>122960798

got into it myself again about a week ago, seems like they changed the reward system so you now get more bucks. I'm having a good time for now.

Is it true that Greg nearly lost his virginity to a slut but he couldn't get his dick in?

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>>122963708

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>over one day of shitposting.
>33 posters.
>no grab dealers playing.
>zero OC generated.

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Guys should i spend cbills on a vindicator or a commando?

>>122970619
neither
is Utawarerumono as comfy as people say it is?

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>>122971832
Yes

Jenner or Kitfox?

>>122972081
jenner

>>122972604
Is the Oxide any good?

>>122972081
Firestarter or ACH

>>122972830
It's not bad but the lack of jumpjets makes getting around a pain

>>122973007
So a Huginn is the better choice for a surm light?

>>122973153
yes

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I'm kinda confused, what was transverse?>>122860489

>>122974384
Stillborn PGI product

>>122974384

PGI's failed attempt at getting in on all that Space Sim money that Star Citizen and Elite:Dangerous were raking in.

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A-At l-least my skill level didn't change.

>>122975451
Literally who?

>that premium bonus

>>122975451
Literally who

Are the Performance Pack Bundles the Steam bundles?

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Post your favorite cockpit.

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>>122974384

PGI, in the ultimate act of hubris, thought people really, really liked their games.

They decided to launch an internet wide witch hunt so they could ban all their naysayers, even if the naysays hadn't posted on PGI's own forums for months or years. Niko Snow, their crazy community manager, was in charge of this, and he may or may not have had access to all your personal information, like credit card details, posting habits, old closed beta documentation, email addresses, facebooks, real names... It was madness.

The game itself was a starcitizen clone in looks, but an EVE clone in gameplay. PGI hired 50 some people to make this game in secret. It was worked on from sometime shortly after the clan grab deal release in late 2013, to october 2014 when they killed it. 2% funding.

100 some people proved they should be sterilized, because they were willing to give PGI money.

Their initial site didn't have security. It sent your credit card details over plain text across the internet. It was super easy to pretend you were a PGI employee on the forum, and no one knew who was the real Niko and who wasn't.

In the wake of transverse, PGI lost ALL their talented staff. Every single person who had a future departed, either because they were fired, or couldn't deal with this madness.

Bryan Ekman was humiliated in public, demoted to living ancestor, and hasn't done shit since. Niko Snow was FIRED, and later caught lung damage from living in a filthy 20 dollar a month apartment.

Mentioning transverse is the true golden kryptonite. You can instantly win any argument by invoking power word: transverse.

Absolutely none of this post is made up, which is the truly most terrifying thing. PGI really thought they could get away with this shit, and that they could escape into space. The only reason we got the (L)oyalty mechs, CW, quirks, and everything else was because tranverse was a huge disaster that sucked away at least a full year's income from piggy.

>>122979350
Nice blog my swedish senpai

>>122946239
last I checked, most pilots only keep about 10 or 12 hp of armor on their back torso. That's not much damage for a solo kill

>>122982458
Most good players keep even less. 4-7 depending on the mech.

>>122983349
and that's when they get one or two shot in the back by a 8 SPL Firestarter

>>122984025

>put 25+ rear armor on robot.
>still get one shotted by firestarter.

That sure was a good move.

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>>122975451

>0 damage Timberwolf

How does this even happen? Was he disconnected?

>>122984025
>32 damage
>oneshotting anything above 50 tons

pls

>>122984025
He did say good players, not shitters who have no idea what's going on around them.

Reinstalled MWO yesterday for shits and giggles, how do Trial mechs work again, do they stay or are they on some rotation?

I seem to remember them changing around every now and then.

I looked through the OP and perhaps I just missed it.

>>122987141
They change on a random schedule. Usually from 3-6 patches, so anywhere from one month to several months.

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The future.

>>122986905
32 damage with a 2 second cooldown

>>122987090
90% of the time people I'm shooting at from behind don't bother turning around. This is tier 3.

Guys what are the most popular ebon jaguar builds now?

>>122992921
Identical to the TBR's largely except it can do 3UAC5 (but no one does because it's worse than 2LPL/4ML).

Realtalk pretty much everything about it is interchangeable with the TBR, except the TBR does any build that isn't a ballistic boat better because it has more room for heatsinks.

>>122993290
>no one does 3 UAC5
Did something change while I was away on my week long Fallout binge?
I loved the 3 UAC jag, and plan to use it again soon as I get back into MWO regularly.
What's happened while I was frozen in time?

>>122993567
Nothing's changed about it at all

UACs just don't compete with the laser alphas it can tote and never have

>>122993837
Oh, well yeah. But that doesn't make them not fun.

>>122993837
UAC doesnt spread damage and is heat neutral.

>>122994485
Enjoy your inferior range

>>122994057
Oh definitely. Never said that at all. I love the Cauldron Borns and all of mine but one are setup with nonmeta builds (3UAC5 3ML, 2UAC5 4SRM6, 7SPL 1LB20X). I'm just saying, if you're talking popular builds/meta builds, none of those are that common. It's 2LPL 4ML, 1Goose and LPLs, ERLLs or MLs to taste, or sometimes a pair of goose rifles.

>>122994485
>UAC doesn't spread damage

Ebin meme friendo, C-UAC5s firing two projectiles per means they are all but guaranteed to spread damage against anyone with a pulse. Particularly trying to return fire against someone using LPLs and MLs, who will be doing significant damage to you effortlessly with just the LPLs at 800m away all he wants. They are heat neutral though, that is true, and leads you well to sustained engagements. Just not too sustained or you're going to run out of ammo of course, unlike laser dominant builds. Oh yeah, of course you're more fragile for having to tote along all that ammo too, just for starters.

3UACs also can't be stacked to one side as goose and MLs can be, and always required a high mount unlike 2LPL/4ML which lets you shave down your ST hitboxes by placing them only in the arms for maximized ridge peaking (virtually every other EBJ hardpoint is level with the cockpit making it far more advantageous than hitbox-increasing above-cockpit mounts). There's also one small advantage it gets over the TBR - it never ever has laser penalties of any kind, so its MLs in any configuration don't get silly laser duration penalties.

Really more to the point though, you just don't beat the current Clan laser meta.

>>122995145
>range
because using cover to get within range is so hard amirite

>>122995191
i was referring to IS UACs actually.

>>122995191
except that IS can boat lasers far better because they get uber quirks for it, and their duration is a lot shorter allowing them to torso twist/reverse behind cover faster.

Sure, put all your weapons on the left side of the EBJ, the one with the large gun that tells me "SHOOT THIS TO DISARM ME" (and which torso twisting doesn't help to spread damage, because the entire gun is considered your LT). It's always funny whenever i see EBJ missing their LT running around being useless.

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>>122993290
>it can do 3UAC5 (but no one does because it's worse than 2LPL/4ML)
I do though...

>>122998636
Fuck off literally who

>>122996857
That's a pretty worthless thing to refer to when we're talking about loadouts on a Clan mech though now isn't it

>>122997129
Only a couple of IS mechs get such amazing duration quirks in a capacity to actually match the Clan heavy+ laser vomit in real capacity. Wolverine is the best the IS has, straight up, and is a fantastic mech, but they still don't have heavies to compare with what the Clans can do. Nothing they have can go as fast with as much range and as much damage as they have. The 5SS is the best heavy they have right now and is nicely able to do ERLLs or MPLs, but taking either leaves it with shortcomings whereas the current Clan LPL/ML hybrid (or gauss/ML_ doesn't have any actual IS comparison. The IS just doesn't have much in the way of ranged weapon synergy, the only thing that approximates it is massed LL spam.

As for the EBJ, if you're stacking everything on one side in a long range build you'll be able to twist fine. Having any height advantage in combination with a range advantage means your large arm will do a fine job of cutting off sight to the other torso. Likewise you can always just toss a machinegun in the right torso to giver it a larger, protective hitbox if you want.

Personally I don't care for one sided builds on it either, but they can be very effective. I like symmetry when possible because I like the durability of losing a side and having half my firepower left.

>>122996857
>get within range
No need when boating lazors amirite

>>122999019
wew lad
you best watch your words friend or bad things will happen

>>122999565
Im not your friend, "fâm"

>>122999823
I ain't your "fâm" buddy

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Lord Daddy
GGClose

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>>123002808
Literally a meme build

>>123002808
Literally who?

TPH VAM

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>>123007640
:D SRPLÖLÖÖÖÖLÖLÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖ

>>122988525

BattleTech is getting an awful Age of Sigmar style reboot? Nice try, you swede kek. Even by PGI's track record, that's not happening.

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le where did the tonnage go family îmo

nice meme jules

>>123012335

You took a targeting computer, which doesn't even help LBX weapons, so derp.

You probably took a lot of heatsinks too.

>>123012964

Oh, and it looks like you have a bunch of Mk-I jumpjets. Those are 2 tons each lad.

wew lads

>>123023267

>Kong Mech Lords prepare for battle.jpg

>>122999021
Clan laser boats can only compete with IS laser boats on pure alpha and range, but they lose on heat efficiency and ROF.

So if the clan laser boat and IS laser boat are just trading alphas, then the clanner wins. But a smart IS player will tank your first alpha with torso twisting (because your laser duration is 1.1 seconds long) and then rape you because you cant fire a second alpha without overheating, while he can fire 3+.

Also clan MPL are shit compared to IS MPL + quirks. The thunderbolt lets you have IS MPL with the same range as clan MPLs and nearly the same DPS, but runs a LOT cooler. In a brawl, a 6x MPL thunderbolt will easily beat a 6x MPL EBJ because the EBJ will overheat a lot faster, and a slightly higher alpha in a brawl means nothing.

Torso twisting to protect your LT only works if your laser duration is short enough or you are using FLD weapons, but clan PPCs are shit and clan UACs are burst fire. Clan ER ML have a duration of 1.1 seconds, that is 1.1 seconds in which you cannot torso twist and your enemy is free to focus all damage to your LT.

A 4x UAC 5 king crab only needs 2-3 alphas (depending on jamming) to take out your LT and that's slightly over 2 seconds of fire.

Fully asymmetrical builds are for people who exclusively stay on one corner in fights and don't move much unless the stomp is already going. Symmetrical builds are for people with sufficient skill to play peekaboo around both corners within a very short period of time, provided nobody is using the other corner.

>>123028469
Except that a crab is fucked by peeking mechs, as well as lights, and in a straight up 1v1 against a metawhale it also loses.

>>123029798
and then there are proper builds for people who aren't pussy shit and hide around cover.

Be a real Clanner faggot, using cover is a violation of zellbrigen

Does anyone know of a good warhawk config?

>>123028469
Yes, the 5SS is a good brawler. It's still not as versatile or as good as a Clan heavy. You don't magically get into brawling range. The Clans don't need to worry about being the best at brawling range as long as they've used their range before you can get close to do real damage. Given the Thunderbolt is also slower than any Clan heavy, it's not too hard to ensure.

You can likewise torso twist away all you want with lasers, there is nothing necessitating you keep the whole burn on a target. Half a burn from two LPLs and 4MLs from 600m is still significant damage.

Brawling just isn't very important at all. As for your King Crab I don't know what to say to that or the point of it, but I'll say that in a peeking fight the King Crab will get shit on by a meta Clan heavy, any of them. KCs can't play the peeking game unless they use an asymmetrical stack, and in terms of firepower the Dire Wolf will always outgun it, be it DPS or alpha or any metric you want to use except speed.

>>123029798
Asymmetrical loadouts are always better as long as there's no hitbox changes accompanied with them really, there's no downside to having an entire shield side unless you just aren't good enough to protect it.

>>123029886
any decent player can hit you even if you are peeking.

>>123030508
>Asymmetrical loadouts are always better as long as there's no hitbox changes accompanied with them really, there's no downside to having an entire shield side unless you just aren't good enough to protect it.
That is directly contradicting your statement that you prefer symmetry, unless that is from the standpoint of personal preference rather than an objective look at a mech's performance.

>>123030456
Missileboat + backup lasers
ERLL + Gauss Rifle
4x LPL
ERPPC + LPL maxalpha
Gee Bill why do you get to have TWO ultra autocannon 20s?

>>123031370
My preference isn't what's the best, it's my preference, indeed.

>>123030456
2LPL, 3ERML, 1 Gauss rifle

ignore all other builds for this is the king shit Warhawk build, greatest of all time A++ 11/10 "it was okay" - IGN

>>123031736
I tried 4x LPL but it's just too slow and overheats too fast. Can't do anything against an AC boat either.

>>123033072
The thing that annoys me is that the UAC bonus is on the right arm so you can only have up to 3 energy weapons if you want it.

>>123008181
Jules mieheni missä ovatdank meemit osoitteessa?

t. ystävä

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nice build

>>123036660

I've seen this stupidity on a King Crab too desu senpai

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>>123036660
muh critseeking

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>>122993837
>Doesn't compete

What the FUCK is with Hawken's matchmaking?
>queue up
>match just ended
>queue up again
>1 minute left
>queue up
>match ended
I just want to play the game jesus

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Commando's got sass

>>123047478
>feet conforming to terrain in 15 year old game engine

>>123048567
ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED

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>>123049813
Dyslexic illuminati?

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>mfw i witnessed actual group bullying of some guy over voip and the guy kept responding to them

it was almost as bad as being in the kong mumble

>>123052235
I always do that when i witness double digit assaults

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fuck.

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How fucked up do you think the launch party will be?

>>123054270
JUST

>>123054270

what will happen is that there will be an influx of players in the first week which very quickly declines again over the course of the next month back to usual levels, which is what happens with pretty much every F2P game or game that goes F2P

the game fundamentally just doesnt have anything to offer to people who aren't already way into bipedal slow as fuck mechs where every mistake is horribly punished, either in a match or when you made a wrong decision buying your first mech.

>>123055367
Is there a trailer for the Steam release?

>>123058697
No. Duh.

Well not yet, at least.


Also on a different note, they removed the separate mech purchases from the gift store. You can no longer buy a timber wolf, dire wolf or whatever separately.

>>123059664
you can always buy MC

Guys is MWO p2w?

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>>123067471
nice post kakos

>>123068013
Literally who Kamrat

wew

>>123075107
what?

hello?

>>123082267
If you'd like to make a call, please hang up and try again.

>>123083956
Then who was phone?

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Yet another star lord white knight defender whale expresses his frustration with the pig.

>>123087987
Gyrok just can't take any amount of Clan nerfs. Poor guy.

>>123087987
>muh clan mechs!
That's all I'm seeing here.

>>123087987
And I thought I had overdone it when I dropped twenty bucks for pretty colors.

>>123030508
I honestly don't understand why people keep bringing up "muh range" like it's some significant advantage.

I play with clan small pulse lasers that have a range of 160m. Before clans came out, i used a stalker with medium lasers and SRMs. The only map in which range was a problem for me was alpine.

Do people really have problems using cover to get into range?

If you are not keeping the full burn on target, then congrats, you are doing less damage than IS lasers while running hotter. At that point, you may as well use ER PPCs even though they are terrible.

Brawling isn't very important? Sure, if both teams are just playing the peeking game. This isn't true in the solo queue or when a 12 man is pushing.

>do your uber alpha at 400m
>before you can finish cooling down an entire 12 man is within 200m and raping your team because they aren't overheating and you are

Teams like HHOD do this all the time. They are doing it on Sonnia right now as i type this.

Any decent tbolt will have at least 80kph with speed tweak, that isn't slow at all.

Asymmetrical loadouts only work IF your opponent isn't good enough to aim for that side. Again, you have a 1.1 second laser burn time. Your IS opponents have either roughly half that burntime or no burn time with their ACs. You WILL take full damage to your LT while you are shooting your lasers.

>>123090923
Cool story

Where can i sign up for your blog

>>123090923
because it is a significant advantage and you're just retarded.

solo queue and hhod? shaking my head to be quite honest family. HHOD is a fucking meme team who has never won shit and is worse than the people who play here and solo queue is irrelevant because this is a team based game

range matters incredibly and it's apparent you've never once come up against the people who are actually good at this game, or seen tournament play that doesn't restrict clan technology

>If you are not keeping the full burn on target, then congrats, you are doing less damage than IS lasers while running hotter.

free damage is good damage end of story

>Any decent tbolt will have at least 80kph with speed tweak, that isn't slow at all.

still slower than a Clan heavy which is the entire point because 89.1 is the meta defining speed now

>Asymmetrical loadouts only work IF your opponent isn't good enough to aim for that side.

you're just shit I'm afraid

stop posting

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>want to play badder.
>look it up on smurfy.
>remember why I will never play a badder.

PGI, plz.

>>123090923
>c-SPLs have range of 160m

Uh, that's the max damage range. Their total range is 320 meters.

The clan large pulse laser is even more egregious. IS version has maximum range of 780m, effective max damage range of 390m. Clan version has the maximum range of 1200m, maximum damage range of 600m.

So the clan large pulse is effectively twice as effective as the IS one, while weighing one less, and taking up one less slot.

>>123093024
>that gif

What am I supposed to be looking at here? The adder/ puma looks like the concept art pretty damn closely. The cockpit is area is slightly larger, but that could be the perspective.

>>123094453
Golds and non alike complain about the grey areas on the invasion mechs that can't be painted. As well as the lack of detailed texture that the concept has compared to the in game model. That's literally it.
Also some proportional stuff like you pointed out with the cockpit.
Same thing happened to the Wolfhound, which in reality is incredibly reflective of the concept art. Just PGI takes really shitty screenshots sometimes, and isn't good at showcasing their creations.

>>123092842
I dont play in tournaments, so why should i care what happens in tournaments?

If you are having problems with range then learn to use cover to get into your range. Are you playing in skirmish mode only on maps like alpine or what?

Every gate in CW has plenty of spots that allow you to shorten range. The gates on vitric force are a great example of this.

It's not "free damage". You are paying tonnage for it, generating heat, and your enemy is still doing damage to you. Honestly who are you playing against, scrubs that don't notice you shooting at you wtih lasers?

The difference between 80 and 89.1 is not going to make a significant difference and frankly, most clan players would downgrade their engines if they had the choice, because extra tonnage is way more valuable.

Based on your comments about how torso twisting works when you have a 1.1 second laser burn time, it sounds like you are only playing against newbies who have very slow reaction times. You should try playing in some tier 2 or 1 matches. Most of the people there can easily hit your LT while you are firing and peeking will still make you take damage.

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>>123094453

It was the first badder picture in my folder. The gif is one of a series some gold made a hundred years ago to showcase the differences from concept art to reality.

>>123094254
Why are you firing lasers outside their max damage, other than to poke enemies to get kill assists?

Use cover to get within the 400m range of IS large pulse lasers. The IS large pulse laser then easily beats the clan one.

You are not taking into account heat efficiency, ROF, or the fact that IS large lasers have a max alpha of 3 vs the clan max alpha of 2.

The clan laser only beats the IS one if they both start shooting at 600m and they NEVER move closer. If this is happening, please take a video of it because i want to see the kind of players you are playing against.

>>123094808
uh the grey areas can be painted, they just cant be painted on the default pattern. its just a scheme to get you to buy a pattern for MC.

>>123095823
That's a recent thing though, and doesn't change the fact that the invasion "camo" was what they complained about, having grey areas with no paint. Some of them drastically distinct from their concept art counterparts.

>>123095643
>Why are you firing lasers outside their max damage, other than to poke enemies to get kill assists?

Everything you have ever said is completely and totally now irrelevant

You do not understand a thing about how this game is played at a high level despite thinking you do

You're bringing up HHOD and CW, shit teams and shit game modes no one plays. You're suggesting it's possible to just rush down a team using ranged weaponry and get to them and kill them like it's nothing. It isn't nothing and the fact you've never played against anyone competent is highlighted from this. Just use cover doesn't fucking work if you peek out of it and get blasted by upwards of 10 LPLs from 600m away for 13 damage a piece.

This is insanewolf isn't it?

>>123096037
Invasion camos still have the third slot locked because reasons too even though they said they were opening them up forever ago

>>123095643
>The IS large pulse laser then easily beats the clan one.

kek

Nothing beats the Clan Large Pulse Laser.

Nothing. You're an idiot.

I just chargebacked my mechs. Fuck PGI.

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>>123096853

>>123096853
I sincerely hope you get screwed doing this somehow down the line, because it was your own stupid fault for buying them in the first place and you have no legitimate grounds to issue one except butthurt and idiocy.

Good job being bad with money.

And fuck Bishop Steiner, too. That bitch doesn't stop bawling his eyes out and making blog threads.

>>123097093
No, one of my friends did it months ago, too. The pig can't do shit.

niin monet noobs täällä olla rehellinen , ravistamalla päätäni perhe

>>123097093
And here's the PGIDF, right on time.

Why would you be so emotionally involved with someone else's decision to take money back from PGI? Did that anon do something to you?

>>123097426
>PGIDF

I don't like the game at all and stopped playing it months ago, you're just an idiot for spending money in the first place and have no grounds to issue it except bad decision making skills.

Were you expecting me to cheer for you post for sticking it to PGI? I'm not going to give you that because you're a dumbass who bought something, got exactly what you wanted, then regretted it

>>123097426
>PGIDF
top kek, gonna have to remember that one

>>123097652
But I'm not the guy you were talking to, I just thought your critique was unfounded and based on feeling, PGIDF shill.

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>>123097093

>pro-consumer is bad.

>>123095341
Wow. Okay, so they were a LITTLE bit asinine with the complaints, huh?

"oh no, the summoner missile barrel is 30% large than in the concept art perspective piece!"

"oh no, there's a camo stripe that can be repainted on the inner side of the right arm gun! I was mislead by the pigs!"

Granted, it's the summoner, there's not much you can do to salvage that concept (except make it possible to have uniform arms, maybe?) and the colours are obnoxiously flamboyant compared to the muted ones of the concept art, but the final models are damn close to the artwork.

I would understand if it's truly notable shit like the Black Knight not getting it's cannon arm that is prominently and distinctly displayed in the artwork, but a few colour stripes and a slightly oversized component that you can't see, and is only used in like one or two builds anyway? C'mon.

>>123097258
hyvä soomi osa, minä too olla suomi t: Ahmed Ahnejumad, 21 -kertainen alaikäisen raiskauksesta tuomittu

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>>123097652
>stopped playing it months ago
If you stopped playing it months ago, what are you even doing still here? Nothing but MWO gets discussed here in practice.

This seems very suspicious. How much are they paying you? Are you getting paid in US dollars, shekels, cbills or MC?

>>123096397
>within 400m range

Maybe you should compare their stats first before spouting memes

>>123098060
It is based on feeling, and that's being annoyed someone'd bother to make a post like that. For what, so we can all jerk him off and say "yeah fuck PGI!"?

No, he's just a fucking idiot, and comitting chargeback fraud isn't something cool either. He's just a dumbfuck who blew money and regretted it.

>>123098517
>If you stopped playing it months ago, what are you even doing still here?
Watching the train derail a little further a day at a time

>>123097093
>>123098647
>>123097652
autism

>>123098560
You mean the Clan LPL that has a higher DPS than the IS LPL?

The one that also has twice the range?

The one that weighs less allowing you to take an extra heatsink per LPL?

dumb

>>123096185
Hahaha this is hilarious.

>dont play solo queue
>dont play CW
>game modes that the majority of the playerbase plays
>thinks you have any idea what actual gameplay is like

Apparently only "real" pros play skirmish and camp at 1000m firing ER LLs at each other. And you have the nerve to call others shit.

Come back when you learn to play objective based game modes.

>>123098856
Compare it on the tbolt with quirks vs the clan LPL.

>not knowing about quirks
>calling other people dumb

oh wow.

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>>123098394

When PGI charges 210 dollars for a madcat, and that's the only way to get said madcat, it better look like a fucking 210 dollar madcat, or people are gonna get mad.

Later, they would implement their al a carte plan, but that wasn't how it was originally, and the shitty clan release did immense damage to the game for many obvious reasons.

Are you new?

>>123098963
>CW
>literally dead game mode
>solo queue
>literally no preset team dynamics possible

Group queue is the only thing that matters and it should be pretty obvious why but I guess you were born retarded

>>123099289
>goal shifts to quirked out LPL against Clan LPL

Guess what, the 9SE is complete garbage. 3LPL is a trash loadout when your competition is 4ML 2LPL for 64 damage at the maximum range of your LPLs

>b-b-but DPS!

irrelevant unless you're brawling, which guess what you aren't doing in the TDR-9SE

Jesus christ you just don't know shit

>>123098394
et ymmärrä , asettamallakebab vieressäperuskoulun onaivan hyvä ajatus

t. Niinistö

>>123096185
>dont know how to use cover
>dont know how to brawl
>cant hit people when they peek
>doesnt keep lasers on target because he torso twists during the burn time
>only play in a game mode that caters exactly to one play style which is sniping at long range
>thinks you know anything about the game

Hey, guess what? I'm a starcraft 2 master, but i only play on a no rush before 15 mins game mode on maps with infinite resources. Only true pros play this way everyone else is a scrub!

>>123100184
Alright dude. Keep on keeping on. The best teams in this game will continue to prove that Clans weapons are ridiculous and range is everything, and you'll still keep shitposting acting like you know anything.

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>>123100056

>>123100383

clan is better but the gap isn't nearly as big as people make it out to be

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>>123100621

>>123100383
>>123100667

A lot of problems would be fixed if they did a redo on the CW maps. They are far too concentrated on chokepoints. When the best tactic is ball up behind a corner, peek, alpha strike, then retreat to cool off, of course clans will have the advantage. The whole "IS mechs are more heat efficient" isn't going to matter in CW until the maps are designed for sustained brawls and maneuvers rather than 200+ instantaneous damage every time you turn a corner.

>>123102080

agreed completely

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>>123087987
He has a point in that the game wouldn't have even been funded let alone chugged along for three years of incompetence if it was identical in all aspects to now but not using the old gold man lure called the BattleTech IP.

If PGI lost its license rights tomorrow and replaced all the Mechs with similar generic stompy robots and changed the names of the factions and maps, but otherwise everything else was the same for gameplay, it would be shut down within weeks due to lack of nostalga fueled interest and paychecks being burned to fund it.

>tfw you can't have a conversation without kaelus trying to be the authority on the subject

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>>123104473
Maybe his scouter is set to Wikipedia for the homepage.

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>>123104473
>tfw kaelus proceeds to be btfo by subject matter experts

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>>123104473
literally who?

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which robutt has the most robust butt?

>>123110297
ain't no feelin in this world like gettin up in a dire wolf's bootyhole in a shit eating little light mech

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>take a break from MWO
>check back one year later
>the meta is still Laserwolves
>all you have are a few Jennifers and Cents

What should I do?

>>123111479
leave and never come back

Hey guys if you hit the arm with a clan ERPPC, does the 5 splash damage go to the side torso? Or does it just dissapear?

>>123111684
Only half of it goes to the side, the other 2.5 disappears

>>123111479
Lasers will be getting nerfed December 3rd

SRMs being buffed too

>>123113114
Only clan lasers, and it isn't that big of a deal.
Vomit builds are going to get hurt because of the greatly reduced heat cap on clan robots. One alpha takes you to 80-90%.

>>123114645

IS laser vomit is getting nerfed too. M Pulse lasers are going to be given heat scaling at over 6 just like standard M lasers.

>>123114645
Many IS mechs are getting reduced heat generation buffs toned down as well, IE Thunderbolt and Wolverine. Lasers on all sides of things are being evened out.

>>123115563

Meanwhile, Wolfhound master race gets nothing but buffs.

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>>123115664

>wolfhound.
>master race.

Pick one.

Hi I am one of the top mwo players and I'm posting on my phone :DDddd sprololoooo AMA, fellow redditors

>>123123802
how did you resist the urge to violently ravage pizza's boypussy while still maintaining the highest kills per minute in the Awesome 8R bloodybooby?

ded thread

>>123112332
why?

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same anon as this
>>123052861

COME ON

>>123130782
shoulda fired your laser just one more time :)

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>>123104473
Just do what he does in that situation. If the conversation isn't owned by you, break it up by linking random images from reddit until they lose attention. Once you've done that, you are free to take control over the conversation again.

This is actually what I programmed my mumble-kaelus-bot to do when it detects kaelus is on a rant. Apparently it worked too well...

In reality, since he has half of kong muted now, and new all neo-kongers by default apparently, the best thing to do is to mute him and talk over him.

Also avoid faggot gravity.

>>123136096
Hey dudebot do you know anything about brogramming in the the context of information security?

>>123136330
it pays a shit ton, and it's one of the only things i would say needs actual certs. basically comes down to mastering 15 or so infosec tools.

>>123136491
Are you saying I need to be an uber script kiddy with some papers to back it up?

I know that Python scripting is very popular to automate security tasks and Kali Linux's suite of tools is good for pen(is) testing.

>>123136632
Kali is actually what I was talking about. If you can go through each one of those tools in CLI under a lot of different situations by memory, and a ccnp/ccie security cert, or a cert from defensive security dot com, you should be good. Knowing how to use the tools is different from knowing when to use them though.

Doesn't hurt to have a well versed programming background, but I wouldn't say it's necessary. I would learn python just because i think python is something fun and worth learning.

I heard a typical test for a job is that they give you 24 hours to break into a system that relies on 3-5 consecutive exploits, some that are not cookie-cutter applications of tools.

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>>123137219
>defensive security dot com
Don't you mean offensive?

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>>123137363
yes

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>>123104473
It's rare that I find a topic I'm confident enough to dunk Kaelus on but when I do it is so, so sweet.

Also I found a picture of a prominent Konger.

>>123138532
He has a nice Islamic beard.

>>123138532
Keep in mind he will continue arguing by lazily repeating wikipedia until you give up. Just mute him

>>123139183
No, you must crush him. Destroy his spirit. Let him crawl back into his hole and remember that he was defeated on this day. His ego has to be stripped down piece by piece, time at a time.

>>123139360
That's not really what he does at all, he just mutes you and ignores you since you don't kiss his ass.

>>123104473
What has he done now

>>123139416
He can't mute everyone. He will realize he is hated and his walls will come crumbling down. He will feel our scorn and see the truth of his existence.

>tfw no Greg bot playing random .mp3s of Greg sound clips
>or .FLAC for you "audiophiles"

>>123104473
>>123139183
Literally worse than shumabot

>>123139892
You can just avoid him by not going to the Star Citizen room. He never leaves it and there's never anyone in those rooms worth talking to anyway.

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>>123139892
DOWN WITH KAELUS

IN THE NAME OF DUDEBOT

KAELUS SEEKS DESTROY US BUT HE HAS ONLY MADE US STRONGER

TODAY WE MARCH FORWARD INTO OUR FUTURE, A STRONGER PEOPLE. A DIVINE PEOPLE.

ENHANCED FOR THE SHITPOSTING WORLD. THE TIME HAS COME TO CLAIM THIS WORLD AS OUR OWN. THE TIME HAS COME TO DESTROY KAELUS!
ONE VISION! ONE PURPOSE!

PEACE THROUGH POWER! PEACE THROUGH POWER! PEACE THROUGH POWER!

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>>123139907
Hearing the difference now isn't the reason to encode to FLAC. FLAC uses lossless compression, while MP3 is 'lossy'. What this means is that for each year the MP3 sits on your hard drive, it will lose roughly 12kbps, assuming you have SATA - it's about 15kbps on IDE, but only 7kbps on SCSI, due to rotational velocidensity. You don't want to know how much worse it is on CD-ROM or other optical media.

I started collecting MP3s in about 2001, and if I try to play any of the tracks I downloaded back then, even the stuff I grabbed at 320kbps, they just sound like crap. The bass is terrible, the midrange…well don’t get me started. Some of those albums have degraded down to 32 or even 16kbps. FLAC rips from the same period still sound great, even if they weren’t stored correctly, in a cool, dry place. Seriously, stick to FLAC, you may not be able to hear the difference now, but in a year or two, you’ll be glad you did.

Besides arctic cheetahs and firestarters, is there any light worth taking? Something besides shortrange laser spam?

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>thread is now about mumble and Kong kulture.

>>123140426
Some lights can meme with srm's like the hugin or kit fox, but it's a meme. Fun but still meme.

who is best konger and why is it greg

>>123142419
best Konger is Dashing

>>123143184
who?

>>123140426
Adder, two pee pees.

Best fast fire-support mech in the entire game.

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>tfw don't know what day of the week it is
>just realized it's almost thanksgiving
>no plans

It's all a blur

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>>123147112

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>black knight model has the cannon arm actually modeled and textured
>PGI simply assigned it to ballistic weapons
>on a chassis that only boats energy weapons

WHAT.

>>123153235

They'll make a hero variant with it. In case you guys didn't know, they always make extra guns, animations, and other bullshit for their mechs.

PGI didn't wake up one day and decide they wanted new weapon torsos for the madcat so they could sell the A variant. It was all made when they initially made the robot, and they simply sat on the assets until they felt like using them.

>>123155653
What, the McKinnon family mech Ian or Ross?

Problem with those is, they have melee weapons on em.

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>>123160379

>he thinks piggy gives a single fuck about canon.

>>123162168
Or maybe its a subtle sign that melee system incoming.

>>123162297
But then the hatchet replaces the cannon arm anyway.

>>123162297

How new r u

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How long until they cave in and start adding anime mechs?

>>123164958
New enough to not be eternally jaded and old enough to notice the difference in the speed of significant updates and changes recently.

>>123173752
If you think they'll ever add a melee system then you're definitely not experienced enough

No offense, just, it isn't going to happen

>>123140385
Nice post Quckos

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>>123174485
They'll just tack on a Dark Age era hatchet and shield on the Centurion before bothering with the Hatchetman.

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>>123174485
>>123178250

>>123181140
Literally who

Guys is MWO p2w?

>>123184645
no

>>123184645
One of the best mechs in the game is free, so I wouldn't say so. It's not 100% optimal but it's damn good in its stock configuration.

>>123185096
Which mech is that?
The Loki?

>>123185489
Timber Wolf.
It's not the "Perfect" meta version but it's really good. And given how you're allowed to pilot a 15M cbill mech for free that's pretty nice.
Just don't get caught at really long ranges. CPLL's are nice but they don't have unlimited range.

>>123186556
Okay what about the direwolf?

>play with clan heavies for the longest time
>Switch to try and play IS heavies

Wow, aside from the Thunderbolt, these are all pieces of shit aren't they?

No range, no survivability, no mobility, shit hardpoints that limit you to taking the heavies weapons available to get some firepower out of the chassis. Which then leads to a conundrum of "you want X and Y? No Z for you!"

>>123190396
Pretty much. Some of the Quickdraws actually got really good quirks too, particularly focused on LLs.

>>123190136
Take my opinion of the Timber Wolf and strap two Gauss Rifles to it.

>>123190396
Heavies and meds have to balance firepower, mobility, and survivability very carefully. Clanners seem to have a lot more versatility in their chassis.