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FREAKING LASERS EVERYWHERE edition

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>>122421292

Because it always bears repeating
>AC7 Never
>HD Collection Never
>PS4/PC/XBOX Port NEVER
>Don't believe the statbars
>You chucklefucks let it die again
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>be in a restaurant waiting for a friend
>playing AHL+
>friend came
>had dinner
>waiter gave the bill
> <<Yo buddy, still alive?>> on the bill
Right, which one of you fucksticks was this?
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>>122754819
pic or gtfo
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>>122754819
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>>122754537
Fourth for FRICKIN LASER BEAMS
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>>122754537
Fifth for anon's post in the previous thread
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>>122756292
>tyoturret
faggot spotted.
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>check idol challenges
>"eh, seems reasonable enough-"
>180 QAAM kills

For fucks sake. It's like Namco doesn't want anyone to produce her.
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>>122757457
They want to keep her to themselves. The more they like an idol the more tedious the challenge will be.
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>>122756292
Well shit
Just got one in a <1500 room.
Barely managed to get an A. Got shot down 5 times.
This mission really calls for 3rd person view.
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>That christmas XFA
I'm gonna stock fuel like there's not tomorrow, starting from the grand-total of 10 I have now.
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>>122754537
You forgot to change AC7 to a maybe starus.

Also remember to support our 4cc team on her maiden voyage on the 28th of Nov.
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>>122757909
You'll have 30 by christmas :^). Actually 31 for that one stocked gift from bamco.
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>>122758409
*status
<<Shit>>
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>>122758425
Maybe 33
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>>122754537
>FREAKING LASERS EVERYWHERE
>Not "Belkan R&D edition"
dropped

repostan best bear in case anyone missed it.
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I wonder if support fire from Excalibur will be in future missions now.
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>>122760254
>Dual Stonehenge-Excalibur support fire
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>>122760498
>Backup fire from OLDS so that you have to shoot down meteors too.
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>>122760578
>Special version of the Gauntlet
>Take on all the superweapons in order of series appearance
>No checkpoints
>Canon planes only
>Raid name: Final Destination
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I never liked WBA, but goddamn Varcolac BGM makes me wanna play a lot of WBA HARD
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>never got a special drop that wasn't tickets or an emblem
>will never get a special plane
>will never place in a tourney
>my dreams will never come true
>can't stop posting shitty green text stories
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>>122762485
Have some patience and save your fuel. I'm constantly hovering around 200 fuels without buying more fuel(had in the past), but I'm not spending unless it's 6 fuel weekend(which saw me use about 40 stocked), or something I REALLY want. I just made sure to get my favorite plane.

Most of the time I'll just aim to complete challenges if I consider benefits are worthwhile compared to cost of creating the aircraft set, research refunds lost, upgrade costs, and opportunity costs of missing out on S ranks, and thus credits.

The fact I frequently get top 3000 without trying is just a bonus.
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>>122763357
>200 fuels

Damn son, I've only used like 12 stocked in my life and I've never gone much higher than 50. I only used them one day when I wanted to play more than 15 minutes and then another time on a special raid.

The thing that sucks is that by the time I ever get a special plane, I would already have the standard counterpart at like level 20 or something. All those credits down the drain.
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Does MUGB count towards UGB challenges?
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>>122765610
It doesn't, I was also disappointed by that fact.
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>>122765610
>>122765713
Yeah. However it's been pretty sweet with this cst limit though, managed to get 80% in 2 Avalon sorties with everyone flying F-2s.

This game might have a salvation after all.

If only there was a good way to farm 180 QAAM kills though
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>>122766087

I think Moscow would be good. Others will probably be going for other challenges, and with a high enough plane and an air heavy second half, you can get quite a bit of kills one shoting Mig-31s and all other aircraft.
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>>122766427
Adriatic is a good map for challenges. Plenty of air and ground targets to shoot.
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>>122766535
It's bad for air targets. Too scattered and most of the time in second phase they spawn from stupidly high altitudes making it dfficult/tedious to go after them
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Infinity supplied stream in 20 minutes.
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>>122766087
I find air targets in fucking alps to be pretty easy targets even for 6AAM (bad homing and all) but it might take a while to get that number even in a 4 man room with the other 3 focusing on nothing else but ground pounding
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>Tfw I get rescue bonuses out of BM carriers in one of Avalon mission updates

I chuckled, then got terrified at the idea that they were willing to launch a fucking nuke at a plane.
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>>122767923
It worked for Pixie.

It worked too well...
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did the delphinus always had a LAAM as one of the special weapons or did they change it?
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>>122766087
Leveled f22 with SP parts
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>>122768261
It was the first plane to get LAAM.
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>>122768261
It's the level 4 SP weapon.
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>>122768261
Yes. The weapon was added with the plane, even.
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We're live: http://www.hitbox.tv/valetni

Ace Combat 6 after this.
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>>122766087
Tokyo's pretty great with plenty of dumb Tomcats and Harriers eager to be shot to pieces.

Only problem is that people seem to avoid it with a passion.
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Regarding the idol drops, didn't pay attention for the first batch but was there increased drop chance event for them? So can I start burning my fuel for the drops I want when those are on
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>>122769235
Yes 3 at a time
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>>122752842
>I'm playing ACX right now. It's hell without shoulder buttons to yaw

I remember, for ACX/X2, I stuck Yaw on the Shoulder Buttons, Decel/Acel on Square/Triangle, Change Target to Down D-Pad, and Change Weapon to (I think) Select.
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Well, that was a good conclusion to the stream.

Red Excalibur S link, and only fucked up a couple of times.
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Got my Nagase this morning. It's a shame I'll never use it because I think the ASF is ugly as sin.
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>>122771881
>there are people who want the plane but won't get it
>there are people who don't even want it and gets it on the first day
SP plane trading should be a thing
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So is the post-mission stuff sort of translucent for anybody else? It's weirding me out.
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>>122772648
I noticed that too.
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>>122772648
Reminds me of that thing they do to anime to prevent seizures. I don't get why they did it though.
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Alright, stream is now resuming for Ace Combat 6, memories of Belka Edition.

As always, stream is here: http://www.hitbox.tv/valetni
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>>122772270
I got it hoping for idolrus
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How long do I have to get muh Nagase?
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>>122772648
I don't think it's more translucent, they just dimmed the brightness for those screens screens.

Notice how, when it flashes the Aircraft Tree, the "time remaining" timer is back to full brightness.
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>>122776023
>Notice how, when it flashes the Aircraft Tree
I might have if my research weren't blocked.
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>>122775775
One week.
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>>122777487
How do I get muh waifu?
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>Pipeline (HARD)
>Avalon (HARD)
>Tokyo (HARD)
>Weapons Base Assault (HARD)
>B7R below 2000 MR nowhere to be found
>almost nobody below 1800 MR
>the few rooms below 1800 MR don't restrict by MR or by Cst, don't even restrict to non-piston aircraft

What the fuck is going on? Can I just get a god damn 6 man B7R, Pipeline, Avalon, or Weapons Base with people in my fucking MR range? Also, did I miss the memo regarding hard missions?

Why do all these 1500 retards not restrict MR? Literally every single ~1500 room I join has exactly one person sitting at ~2000.
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Stream should be resuming shortly.
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Been trying to use my last sortie for 30 minutes now. Always stuck at 7/8, 5/6, and lost connection to host twice already.

Even when we get 6/8, host refuses to change number of players and we hover at 6/9 or 7/8 for 15+ minutes until I give up and leave.
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IT'S TIME TO TAKE BACK GRACEMARIA!
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<< I'm moving to another area. >>
<< Okay, I'll follow you and try sniping every single kill while 3 other areas remain untouched, and then score 3k so we can get D rank. >>
<< Roger. >>
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>UPEO Typhoon in trailer

Welp, I know where my fuel is going.
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>>122784625
Finally someone notices it
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>>122784772
What do you mean "finally"? It was like the second or third post after the video. People were just more interested in the christmas XFA-27
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>This mobility
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>>122784458
>Multi engine drifting!
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Soon? For NTDM
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>>122786993
For what purpose?
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>>122787630
Always active ESM/ECM and LASMs and some other anti shipping weapon
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>"End of Deception” Co-Op Tournament
>Fenrir -Alect- confirmed
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>>122780176
I thought the plane cost was the one with the restriction and not the MR, my MR is around 1670 and I go in cost restricted rooms hosted by someone with a 2000+ MR and they don't usually do that well without their high cost planes

did they drop the cost of parts by the way? my F-2Ami used to cost around 1450 but now it's around mid 1300's with the same parts and loadouts
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>>122788735
Source?
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>>122789314
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq38TSQGMdw
In description:

>Update 12 includes four new Online Co-Op Missions and three team Deathmatch maps, including Dubai Skyscrapers, White Moscow and Avalon Siege. In addition to these new maps, players are also able to participate in new events and special challenges, such as the "Cutting Edge of the Elite" and the "End of Deception” Co-Op Missions Ranking Events.
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>>122789049
Datalink no longer adds cost. That's it. Everything else is the same or at least the commonly used parts.
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>>122789049
I'm pretty sure you can restrict roughly by MR if you change the search range. There's narrow, standard, wide, and maybe one more category.

I'm not seeing many rooms with restricted cost, which isn't surprising because I doubt many high MR players want to impose handicaps when they can just fly with other high MR players.

The thing is that the standard search range restriction is default, so in these countless rooms where I'm seeing 7 1500 players and one 2000, that means the host went out of his way to widen the search range so we can all get clubbed. They never put cost restrictions on the room either, so it's like they deliberately want to get clubbed or want others to get clubbed. It makes no sense. They're almost making if infinitely worse by creating 8 player rooms instead of 4 or 6 players, which means that there's even fewer scraps left over for the low MR guys and the one high MR guy just sweeps the entire map before anyone can even lock onto a target.
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So what ends up working better for <1500 cst, dropping levels and keeping parts or dropping less levels and using no/small parts?
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>>122789735
It's not like there's a shortage of low MR players either, considering how many nuggets join my no restrictions challenge rooms. No idea why they do this.

Narrow = +- 100
Standard = +- 200
Wide = +- 400

>I'm not seeing many rooms with restricted cost, which isn't surprising because I doubt many high MR players want to impose handicaps when they can just fly with other high MR players.
The benefit of this is that I can host moscow challenge rooms without FAEBMTDs fucking it up.
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Why are so many people doing Alps HARD? There's one challenge that gives only 10k credits and considering it takes 100k points to complete, it's not worth the time or the sorties.

B7R is completely dead, nobody will join my room. I just wanna complete the 4AAM and F/A-18 challenges but I can't even get 3 other people to join.
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this popped up on my twitter feed, thought some of you might be interested

http://hushkit.net/2015/11/19/the-untold-story-of-britains-f-16/
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>>122789983
Be very stingy on your part. Don't use shit you don't need, min-max, use SPW that don't really need parts so you can go all standards.

Levels give the best benefit because the all-round increase in both performance and standard missiles is very cost efficient until L11.
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>>122790045
>Wide = +- 400
Then why am I seeing a 2000+ MR player in every single room hosted by a 1400-1500 MR player? Seriously, every single low MR room has at least one clubber without fail, and it's usually exactly one clubber.

>No idea why they do this.
I'm not understand this either. I swear they are begging to be clubbed. There's no way this many people don't understand how MR works at this point in the game's life cycle.

Today just made no sense. I usually blow through my daily sorties in like 20 minutes. Today it took me over an hour to find decent rooms and get in a match.
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>>122772270
>>122773176
>Hoping that bamco would make it easier for people to get stuf

HAHAHA
Buy fuel goy.
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>>122790093
This reminds me that I don't think I've ever seen a single F-16 in any co-op match ever.
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>>122790431
>Then why am I seeing a 2000+ MR player in every single room hosted by a 1400-1500 MR player? Seriously, every single low MR room has at least one clubber without fail, and it's usually exactly one clubber.
They're pulling a duck. Alt account and using their main to join to club seals.
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does anyone else see an increased numbers of new players? I went to a 6 man room and I have 2 people with f-16s and nothing but nugget flight suit as parts.
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>>122790603
I've been seeing the occasional Windhover nowadays but not really anything before then unless it was challenge time.
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F-35A Lv3 Nickname:
-ニュージェネレーション
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>UPEO Typhoon
Motherfuckers
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>>122790920
>UPEO Typhoons
are you saying they're in ACI?
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>>122791018
Check the end of the new update
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>>122790695
That has to be one of the most pathetic excuses for owning two PS3s that I've heard of if it's true. Before this update, I only saw that happening every once in a while, but today it was legitimately happening in every single room I joined except for two of them.

Like I said, that's not the only unusual thing happening. Nobody was joining low MR clubber-free rooms to the point where it was always stuck on 5/6 or 6/8. All the host had to do was change the fucking number of players but instead we all just sat there for 15+ minutes waiting for one person that never showed up, at which point I would just try to find another room that inevitably had a clubber in it.
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>>122791018
watch the update trailer nigga
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>>122790795
Just the opposite for me. I'm mostly seeing ~2000 MR players, can't find anyone at my level to play with. The few times that I do find rooms with similar MR players, they're usually full retard like picking fighters in Avalon Dam and finishing with under 5k.
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>>122791105
>>122791180
well shit, not sure I want it though considering I'm still working on my makoto typhoon
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>>122789983
The majority of my sets are sub-1500 anyways. Feels nice seeing the F-117A do the MVP flyby again. Wish I hadn't missed the stars n stripes one.
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>>122792406
Are you Ferrari F50 on Pootube? I think I've only seen one other person use that plane in game.
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>>122793783
Not above but I've seen like 5 other people at most use the F-117. I forget their names though.
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How do i into infinity, /aceg/?
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>>122794119
Download the game then launch it.
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>>122754537
>>122756292
>First Raid is with Excalibur 1.
>Flying a Griphen cause I have no clue what to expect.
>Die in the first 10 seconds.
>Fucking RTLS everywhere I go.
Holy shit I really need something with better acceleration. Amazed that we still got an A rank though.
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>>122794119
Download, launch, read the guide in the OP
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Can someone please trade their flaming unicorn for all 500 of my moeshit emblems that I will never use?
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>>122795115
beg scamco for trading system and i would gladly.
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>PS2 emulation for PS4
>So far PSN only
plz make disc capable sony. that way I can play AC4+5+0 = Ace Combat 7
Maths adds up.
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>>122784383
>Painbriner

It's one thing to be in a hurry and not notice it before you post it, but how do you not notice this twice?
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>>122795542
>ONSLAGHT
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>>122795689
Che through any leash
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>>122795162
How many fucking characters are in that cartoon/game/whatever anyway? I don't understand how this idolmaster shit never ends and they never run out of new characters and new emblems. I'd take another 30 tickets over this garbage any day.
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Don't care much for the plane itself but it looks sick as hell. More matte black/orange trim aircraft please.
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How are people who got top 3,000 in a tournament from 8 months ago still low MR and doing even worse than me?
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>>122796186
Never underestimate how shitty whales can be
Their wallet carries them, not their skill
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Holy shit it happened again

>Sign and start burning my supplied
>Do one mission in pipeline
>EMERGENCY SORTIE
>EXCALIBUR II
>Holy shit, this the best day ever! This time I can do it for real!
>Everyone selects fuel and immediately gets ready to sortie, myself included
>Suddenly realize that 4 people aren't going to be able to do shit in a level II raid which most of us have probably never done before
>Quickly message that "I want to change the number of players"
>Host deselects his ready to sortie
>The host has closed the room

Well I'm sorry I hurt your fucking feelings, cupcake. Jesus Christ, the least you could have done was just let us sortie like you were willing to do literally ten seconds ago.

Next sortie I actually got a gold box AND got to that aircraft delivered scene just to get the Cocoon Rafael. God damn, this game is giving me blue balls in all the worst ways.
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>>122789419
>team Deathmatch maps
>Avalon Siege

Oh my, I so hope we get a few days were they "forgot" to take out the code for altitude restrictions.

Valley-constrained dogfights or death clouds.
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>>122795850
>How many fucking characters are in that cartoon/game/whatever anyway?

Literally hundreds.
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>Time to use daily allotment
>Alps Air Corridor (HARD)
>Alps Air Corridor (HARD)
>Alps Air Corridor (HARD)
>Alps Air Corridor (HARD)
>Tokyo Martial Law (HARD)
>Alps Air Corridor (HARD)
>Alps Air Corridor (HARD)
>Alps Air Corridor (HARD)
>Alps Air Corridor (HARD)

Okay then.
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>>122795850
>Never run out of new characters and new emblems
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JgEptmz_eE
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>>122800354
>>122799283
Realistically, they're probably going to have this for the ones in the CG anime
R-right? They aren't that mad, are they?
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>>122800354
>tfw you're so old that you were already an adult when this song came out
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>>122800742
Jesus, how old are you?
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>>122800454
Think about it, if say that christmas XFA-27 is a drop wouldn't you want to minimize its chance to be found be forcing other "rare" drops on it? The only way to get it is to buy more fuel. Or how about putting them in for every new drop? Think about how much more someone would have to spend in fuel with them there.
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>>122800918
We already went through this last thread. I can't keep up with your young whippersnappers.
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>>122800994
Taking the year of release of this song into account, this makes you like, 65 years old? what the fuck are you doing in here?
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>>122801213
Being a loser.
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I feel like giving up on the F/A-18 and 4AAM challenges, fuck this plane.
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>>122801276
Jesus christ man you should be living it up in the fucking tropics or something, not shitposting with us
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When is a good time to use my aircraft and weapons research reports?
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>>122801985

when you want something done but dont feel like flying for it
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>>122802246
In that case, 5,000,000,000,000 research reports still isn't enough.
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>>122801985
I guess to finish a research level off so any future enhanced post-sortie research doesn't go to waste
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Any guess as to what shows up on the belkabux store next?
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>>122802584
Christmas A-10 most likely.
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>>122801696
>Implying he couldn't be retired in the tropics AND shitposting with us.
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>>122802584
Pole position emblems, F-14A -Goy-, Christmas A-10
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>>122801696
Hes our resident viper
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>>122801276
Join the club, last year of my 40's and I'm on 4chan drinking at noon, waiting for the challenges to reset.
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so how long would i have to wait for nagase shinden to be in the ticket store

cause i really doubt it'll drop for me
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>>122801450
use the 4AAM for the kill shot.
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>>122802787
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>>122802875
Well it depends. The OSEA was a drop not too long ago but the Tiger was a drop way long ago so there's no real way of knowing for sure.
Probably within the next few months
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>>122802935
I've been trying to do that but shit is slow and misses often, even with weapon parts. I'm probably not even going to finish the challenge in time.

I think it's like 22k to upgrade my Super Hornet to level 3, which will only net 8k but also waste research subsequently. Wish I never went down this branch to begin with, should've gone mother Russia and MTD branches.
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>>122800354
>The Carpenters

Holy hell, this is a tier of taste I never expected to come across in /aceg/.
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>>122793783
No. I don't do the youtube thing.
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>>122803297
You should do the Jewtube thing. Better yet, do the streaming thing. Thunder is the only one scratching that itch. I don't think I've ever seen another Infinity stream EVER.
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>>122803452
Not him but I'm seriously considering getting a capture card to start streaming infinity. Problem is I don't have the time considering I've got a job and school at the same time.
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>>122803452
I don't know how
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>>122802951
My own beer! $1 jugs keeps the saving intact.

>>122803175
Yeah, that is what I did on my alt, just went straight to the Flanker-E. Guess man + dog going for all those tasty MiG-21's @ B7R and the choppers at Moscow.
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>>122803656
>considering I've got a job and school at the same time

Welcome to my world. I just neglect both now. Almost got fired from my job.

I wanted to get a capture card for a while now but I know nobody would watch, plus I'm not very entertaining - only 1500 MR, shit planes, shit weapons, no skill.

Wish there was a horde of Infinity streamers to fill those gaps around the clock since 3 sorties takes only so long to burn through. I've just been watching the same Jewtube videos over and over, pretty much all by Duck since barely anyone else make Jewtube videos either.

>>122803848
Capture card. Used one will set you back at least $60 though.
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>>122803887
I have seriously been considering switching to my alt account but I hate the nickname, plus I'd be missing out on the 20 campaign sortie fuels. Problem is I had zero idea what I was doing or how the game worked when I got into it, so I research EVERYTHING, bought damn near every plane, and leveled up planes that I will never use.

Now I've got level 2s, 3s, and 4s everywhere and I'm still miles away from the planes I want. On top of this, I'm starting to feel OCD about how ugly and spread out my tree looks.
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>>122803950
I'm a bit higher on the MR side of things sitting at 1948 but I don't fly meta or goyplanes at all, my best plane is a tie between my level 13 Super Tomcat and my level 11 Pixy Eagle. I fly a lot of idolplanes as well, so I have quite a few high level planes but nothing super fancy. I just got a vanilla rafale to 10 today though, haven't taken it for a spin yet. I'm pretty okay at the game so I think I could entertain enough people to seem viable. Although I'm not exactly planning on losing my job or failing my classes.
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>>122804460
I think you'd have an audience of at least a few people as long as Thunder's not streaming at the same time.
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>>122804460
I mean I do play infinity just about every day to keep my schedule intact unless my job interferes with that, so I could possibly just do short daily streams similar to what Thundercepter has been doing but then I feel like I'd be stealing his thunder.
>>122804605
Yeah I was thinking I'd have to time it for when Thunder's not streaming. My friend and I usually play at around 11 AM and 11 PM PST.
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>>122800742
>>122800994
>>122801276
>>122802787

>All of these elderly gentleman in my /aceg/
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>>122804845
RIP
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>>122800742
>tfw shingles
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>>122804273
I made the same mistakes, that 6x sortie with research boosts was a great help fixing up mistakes. I used to buy fuel before I worked out extra hangar slots were more efficient,and the game has just kept chucking fuel at me like crazy! (touch wood) .

I've been just working on one plane at a time, taking to at least 7 for the low/mid tier. That Frogfoot has been awesome @7! the under 1500cst has breathed new life into the game for me.

>>122804845
pic related
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>>122805505
>>122804273
I bought an F-35B near the start of the game because I was greedy, levelled it to 4 and alll, before I realised that I fucking hated that plane. Have not flown it even once ever since.
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>UPEO Typhoon
>Alect Fenrir is actually in this patch

All I have to do now is go full goy.
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How do I get good when I can only play once every 3 hours?
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>>122805505
Gives me hope that my main account is still worthwhile then. I will stick with my main account then but I'll just make an alt for screwing around and testing different branches I guess. Plus 3 sorties per day on my days off isn't enough for me, so 6 altogether will be fun for those lazy weekends.

>>122805907
I've got like 3 level 5 planes, 2 level 4 planes, and one level 6 plane that I will probably never touch again. Shit sucks, all those wasted credits, all those ugly numbers.
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>>122805273
>tfw short term memory loss

>>122806814
Watch a few Youtube videos and practice expert controls in test flight for a little while. The biggest trick I learned was to always be attacking, always change targets, and keep laying down the law. When I first started, I would just keep focusing on one enemy and waste so much. Helped me go from like a 10k player to a 30-50k player.

If you're not actually retarded, you'll be pretty competent in about a week or less. Then it's just a matter of leveling up your planes and ironing out the finer kinks.

Only stick to rooms with people within a few hundred MR of you. Avoid "Beginners welcome" rooms with 2000+ MR hosts. Campaign is good for practice too and worth the shekels.
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>180 QAAM Kills
>10 A ranks in a Fighter

Welp time to make that secondary Su-37 -Gene- set for challenges.
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>>122805913
>Alect Fenrir is actually in this patch
WHAT?! OH FUCK.
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>>122808270
>Dakka.jpg
>Not a picture of an A-10
Disappointed
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Is a lvl 10 vanilla morgan really good? I leveled it to 10 because i was thinking that it might do good in my arsenal. Also
>first time doing excaliber I
>used my TLS morgan as a test
subject
>our team is an avalanche hornet and a typhoon
>enemy team is a messyshit, b-2 and a strike eagle
>laser everything on the excaliber
>S rank
>mvp
Is level 10 enough or level it more?
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>>122808921
15 then stop.
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Soon?
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>>122806878
The fuel stacks, I was doing 3 a day and stashed 100 over 6 months. Might go hard for the nugget intruder.
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>>122809342
So wait, is it really that good or bad?
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>>122802584
Not Distant Thunder.
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>>122810526
It all depends how well you know how to TLS
You kinda need at least one lvl 15 plane these days. MPBM is good, but not on every map ofc.
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Tournament starts in 3 hours right?
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>>122811086
yuuup
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Army Men 3D collaboration event when?
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>>122813779
P-38 -Sarge- when?
>>
I am alive.

>360 is ded.

"no"
>>
> ITT: We post hypothetical collaborations we'd like to see
One Punch Man Collaboration
F-4E Saitama
HPAA
RCL
LAGM
increased speed, maneuverability, and defense. Less missiles and Gun ammo

CFA-44 Genos
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>>122805505
>That Frogfoot has been awesome @7! the under 1500cst has breathed new life into the game for me

Brought mine to lv. 4 due to the idol challenge and thought it was going to be hell... but despite being incredibly slow it has been fun and got like 30% of the challenge done in two sorties. Low cst rooms are a blessing for challenges and flying for fun
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>>122815425
What happened?
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>>122816285
Life.

Tis a brutal mistress.
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>>122815957
Take a wild guess:
F-22 -MK-
F-35B -LK-
SU-34 -RN-
SU-35 -LN-
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>>122815957
J-35 Draken -Shin Kazama-
Kfir -Saki Vashtal-
F-5E -Shin Kazama- comeback (for me)
F-20A -Shin Kazama- comeback (for me)
F-14A -Mickey Simon- comeback (for me)
A-10A -Greg Gates- comeback (for yours truly)

I won't rest until Scamco makes these available again and I acquire all of them.
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>>122816220
>mfw can't find room at my MR and have to use a shitty level 2 Super Hornet for the challenges

Shit sucks, I could feel my MR slipping away before the match even started.
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>>122815957
Kiss-Shot Nosferatu.

Give it to me Bamco, I will goy out for it and maybe such a few dicks too.
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>>122817347
Flogger when?
Buccaneer when?
A-8 when?
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>>122817801
Probably around the same time we get the F-8 Crusader and F-200 Efreet.
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>>122815957
I' mean, it's Bamco's largest cash cow. I'm more surprised it actually didn't happen so far.
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https://www.bandainamcoent.eu/news/2015/11/19/ace-combat-infinity-receives-update-12/5404

Dear aceg,

Do I save fuel for alect fenrir, nemo typhoon, or razgriz rerun?
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>>122818685
You know what you have to do.
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Stream of constant failure has resumed: http://www.hitbox.tv/valetni
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I think my favorite part of Russian aircraft is the late 80s YMCA pool area youth paintings and aquarium wall color scheme.
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>>122819280
Pasternak is kill.

Yes.

And in less tries than Pixie.
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>>122815957
Ace KOMBAT.
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>>122819696
>I think my favorite part of Russian aircraft is the late 80s YMCA pool area youth paintings and aquarium wall color scheme.

wew
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when people talk about buying hangar slots, what is that about? just more slots for plane loadouts, or is it something else?
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>>122824127
Yes.
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Do I have to goy my way to at least top 3,000?
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>>122824961
No. Just constantly S rank in 4 players, pull your weight, use your 6 supplies everyday, and maybe spend up to 15-20 stock if necessary, and you'll make it in most tourneys.
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>>122824961
30 stocked fuel will give you an excellent chance, even if the tournament's hot.
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>>122825228
>>122825230
>mfw exactly 30 stocked left
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>>122825487
You'll get it back faster than you think. 1x fuel is a common drop, after all.
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Blew my 35 stocked trying to get the nagase. I got all the idols and the cocoon, but it still feels like it wasn't worth it.
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>>122825849
>common drop
>Got the nagase and two idol emblems and I still have not got a 1x fuel drop ever
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HAPPENING
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>>122826637
>Talkingtothecops.jpg
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>>122826637
Wait what
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>>122826637
Truely a ded game
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>>122826637
???
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>>122826637
God damn communists.
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Holy shit competition is gonna be rough. Just played a few games where I hit 50-60k and my ranking isn't looking very promising. Started immediately after the flood gates opened too.
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>>122826830
>>122827158
He streamed a bit of One Punch Man and got hit by the mods for it
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>>122826637
what the fuck happened?
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>>122828256
>nothing but 2k rooms and 1500 cost rooms
MAKE IT STOP
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>>122828467
I lucked out. Barely squeezed in a ~1500 4 person no restriction room and got a good teammate. I think he let me have MVP one round too.

Shoulda friended that nigga.
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>>122828467
>tfw I have a room up at 1788MR spamming B7R for the QAAM challenge with no restrictions
>4p no bots
>Some guy with a 1677 grun hornet is on my team
>Other team has an F-4E 20 and an SAAMTD
>HolyfuckSAAMTD.png
>Grun proceeds to BTFO everyone
>>
The call of the goy is real. Hard to resist.

>>122828907
Been trying to finish the fucking F/A-18 and 4AAM challenges before this tourney but couldn't make it. No low MRs playing/joining B7R rooms anymore.
>>
<<Rise>>
>>
>get 15k point lead after emergency part of the mission
>host drops the comm
>get a warning about leaving online sessions
Wait what?
>>
The radius boost in the new GPB radius/pow+ part is utterly negligible. What a complete waste of credits.
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>>122831395
That means your internet connection faultered, anon. Was playing with my friend earlier and this happened. Asked him if he pulled the plug through phone and he replied saying the game was still up.
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>>122828256
everybody is goying out for the shitden.
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>>122832070
I feel like it's best to just treat the GPB like it doesn't have any AOE. The thing that I hate most about it is how hard it is to lock on the target of choice from a distance. I always switch to standard missiles to lock on and then switch back to GPB.
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>>122833590
Seriously? It was right after the last tgt went down so it seen all too much like a d/c from the host who was on the losing team.
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>>122833782
I just really want the MTD at the very least. The X-29 would just be icing on the cake.

If I got the Shinden, I would probably trade it for a spot in the top 1,000.
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>>122834226
It's weird that GPB cycles targets based on proximity to bomb landing point. It makes sense when the reticle's visible, but not so much when it's at the bottom of the screen or off-screen entirely.
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Dear Scamco,

If you're reading this, please add trading and the ability to change the music to Comona on every level. Also, fuck you.
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Does mission rank matter for overall rankings or is it just personal score?
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>>122834375
Mate, I was hosting and lost connection half-way through BM, so the rest probably thought I rage quit.

It happens.
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>>122834873
Both, and mission rank plays pretty big in ranking points. You'll have to score around 80k points to compensate for A rank.
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>>122834989
Can you even survive bailing out at the point that guy did? I feel like you would just splatter on the ground at that point.
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>>122835051
Shit, there's always one guy dragging the room down. Either that or I end up in a room where someone cleans the entire map before we can even get a missile off.

Wish I had friends who played this shit. I'm probably gonna be sitting at 50,000 by the time I wake up tomorrow.
>>
Where's the rental?
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>>122835117
possible but you can receive very grave injuries easily.
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>>122835117
Ejection seats are pretty good, there are a few ground eject clips around.

>>122835492
I guess the piston challenge has finished and this tournament is not restricted so no need.
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>gold box
>76500 drop
meeeeeeeeeeeeh, better than tickets I guess
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>>122835653
Friendly reminder that there will be no 765 rerun
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>>122835951
Friendly reminder that 765 is not an Idolmaster reference.
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>>122836029
if 5 is "Go" then how is it na-mu-ko
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>>122836084
na-mu-gofuckyourself
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>>122836356
I've already been violated by MTDs countless times, me violating myself won't be as bad
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>Butterfly master spawns used to be as rare as a Red+ raid
>Have gotten 2 within 5 sorties
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>>122836685
>will be the only 2 you ever get for the next 6 months.
sounds about right.
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>mfw 404
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>4 sorties
>got my free stocked
The EULA "no disconnect" rule isn't being noticed, had a couple after the select craft screen, guess everyone doing the 4AAM challenge.

Any word on the SP level up form ladder and rewards? I got;
GPB x 100
Typhoon x 150
MiG 1.44 7xA rank
Attacker/Multirole/Fighter 200k
Piston 180 kills. (!)
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>>122841716
200,000 points with standards
300,000 points overall (end)
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>>122841716
>MiG 1.44 7xA rank
Oh baby they didn't forget my fappack
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>>122841783
200k with standards? ECM time! might as well be a Buddy while doing it.

>>122841865
Bust it out! I only got the SP at Lv2, but B7R is basically a guaranteed S rank, so no worries!
>>
>Drops will be multiplied by 2!
>EXCALIBUR II
>Forced Sortie
>3 fuel usage
>S ranked
>6 drops
>Idol, Idol, 30 tickets, 1 ticket, 1 ticket, 1 ticket
Jesus fuck
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>>122842573
I'll trade you fuel for idols.
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>>122818685
>400 free fuel stashed away
Yes.
With some hope, it's only one weekend of forced sorties like the first time, which will leave enough to get my final dream plane later.
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>>122842650
No thanks, I'd rather take the idols. I'm more or less disappointed that 4/6 were tickets.
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>>122841716
It's a dumb EULA anyway. A thousand things can happen where you lose your connection or power goes out. They want to penalize for that?
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So how are the new planes? Any reason to use them?
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>>122845161
Silent Eagle is fun, F-35A a shit and the XFA-33 -Alect- is in the game, just invisible
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>>122845161
I wanted to use the A-6, but the Harrier already provides with both 4AGM and LASM, and UGB is eh. If only it was GPB. Otherwise, it's a low cost attacker that will take a while to be really good.

F-35A looks okay. A bit slow, but it's a 725 cst plane with 6AAM on the normal tech tree, should get people interested.

No opinion on the Silent Eagle other than "It's another fucking Eagle".
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>>122845602
>No opinion on the Silent Eagle other than "It's another fucking Eagle".

>inb4 bamco adds the F-15 ACTIVE
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>>122845151
Sure, but when you get "not enough players to continue" just after the selection screen, it is more than a little 1C.

Yes, I have been penalized when my connection dropped. Never got lower than an A so far.
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>>122845814
>Yes, I have been penalized when my connection dropped
What is the penalty? I'm curious about it.
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>>122845930
You lose mission completion rank in your profile. Once you get low enough, you won't be able to find rooms through search and have to be directly invited. Play games without DC to raise it.
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>>122845930
Shitty matchmaking. Rooms are pretty much invisible to all but a handful of people and there are either no rooms to join or only one clubber room
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>>122845783
F-15K
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>>122848303
So I googled it and...
>F-15K "Slam Eagle"
>SLAM EAGLE
That's a fucking brilliant name

I have space jam playing in my head
>>
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/723578-ace-combat-infinity/72785817?page=10
Running out of popcorn here.
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>>122849572
>I still don't have any Su-47 above Lv.2. I considered it for UGB user

I consider this an insult to us Su-47 Air-to-air pilots.
>>
>>122849572
Hoooooo boy. I'll make us some more popcorn.

>>122850009
To be honest, I'm going to have to agree with you here, UGB berkuts have been dead for years.
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>>122850009
Why use a Su-47 for air when there's a ton of HPAA Fighters that are more than capable of doing that?
Meanwhile, Attacker section is so anemic one has no choice but to consider multiroles to use different weapons. Especially when it comes to UGB, limited to mostly low-cst Attackers.
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>>122850608
>Why use a Su-47 for air when there's a ton of HPAA Fighters that are more than capable of doing that?
1: Gault skin
2: Waifuplane
Also because I don't have many fighters outside of my Su-37 -Gene- levelled. I'm trying to level my Block1 and YF-23 at the moment but it's taking forever.
>>
>you will soon be able to play PS2 games on the PS4
one can dream

>>122850608
I still don't get why they can't just trim down some of the multiroles and move them into the attacker category.
>>
>>122845485
>XFA-33 -Alect- is in the game, just invisible
You cheeky fuck

>>122851417
>tfw have gault skin
>no gault emblem
Damn it
>>
>>122855948
Same here, but I roll with the Belka flag and the "Legendary Belkan Air Force" nick
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>>122855176
>I still don't get why they can't just trim down some of the multiroles and move them into the attacker category.

Such as? All of the multiroles are designed to be able to perform A2A/A2G missions in some way or another. It's really stretching it to call them attackers. It'll be weird to have F-15E not be able to A2A effectively just because it's an attacker (like it is in ACX)
>>
>doing challenges during a tournament
>MR plummeting

Guess it's because I already own a X-29A and despise the Stripes STD. The X-29A felt special because got it in a low interest tournament, now because of the Nagase drop hunt everyone and their mothers will have it. Damn.

That said, already got two idol emblems so it's two less items preventing me from getting muh planes. Anyone looking forward to that F-20 skin?
>>
do gold crates only show up on raid missions or are they completely random?
>>
>>122857406
>doing challenges
>top 500

Running a contract and triple up the raids helps!

>>122857858
Random.
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>>122857406
What f-20 skin? Where? How 2 acquire?
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>>122858530
It was added to the drop pool today.
That's a quiter large selection now. 6 emblems, 2 planes and 2 skins. Only makes worse to get tickets.
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>>122859248
fuck why couldn't they make it a challenge? Another drop that I will never get.
>>
Theres never going be a ranking tournament without x3 sortie is there? I lost 1000 ranks over night.
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>>122862289
no.
never.
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>>122865472
>high

More like having an orgasm
>>
>go to sleep
>wake up
>dropped 9,000 ranks
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>>122865734
I guess we can setle on she's having an orgasm while being high?
Now I want it more.
>>
I normally get grouped with good enough people that we hardly get below A rank but I haven't gotten above C since this tournament started. It's impossible to find the right conditions - right number of players, good MP but not too high, people who aren't retarded, and so forth.

Half the players aren't pulling their weight and they're getting like <15k in B7R and Avalon. I ain't gonna make it.
>>
> Total cost <1500 Moscow
> Everybody around 2000mr
> Host is in QAAM MUH PRIDE, I'm using LAGM F-4E for challenges
> Enemy team is SFFS F15E and FAEB MTD

Jesus christ. I knew this was going to happen.
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>>122865472
Sachiko a shit tho, why do you want such a shit aidoru?

I just want the sporty drunkard.
>>
/aceg/ I have a question. Would you like to see a level 20 -FA- P-38L? I am strongly considering what it would be like to use it.
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>>122867336
Why not?
It'd be fun to see
>>
>>122867336
>I am strongly considering what it would be like to use it.

It would be like singlehandedly trying to overthrow the US government using a peashooter with a boxcutter taped to the end.
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>Finally figure a build that can 1hit hard fulcrums with 6AAMs
>Score 91k on 8p alps hard
dick status: MUH
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>1 GPB left
>No ground targets
>Fling one at a Fulcrum
>Tfw it actually hits
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>>122867279
To be honest anon, I have no idea who they are. My choices are based only on what I see in the emblem.
>>
>>122867336
Talking about P-38 -FA-, I fly a Spitfire. Is there any way to win a duel with a P-38? I get the feeling the best course of action is, unless I am directly behind them, to attempt to force a disengage because on the assumption of equal levels:

1. I can't chase because they can outrun me.
2. I can't joust because they outgun me.
3. They can outlast me because of their defense.
>>
>>122868803
When dealing with enemy you can't out run or take head on you have to fly defensively. If a fast aircraft is on your tail you should try to force and over take. It's a lot less risky when dealing with Pistons v Piston because there's no risk of them popping homing missile up your arse if you're not good at pulling the maneuver. Still might take a little practice though.
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>>122867279
Those balloons look quite like condoms.
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>>122868803
>Way to win a duel with a P-38
At high levels or low? At low levels you can just out turn them. At high levels the best way to win a duel is to have a teammate also shooting at them.
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>>122869594
confirmed slut
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Infinity supplied stream will start at 2:30PM EST.
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<<Rise>>
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>>122871545
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>4-man room B7R
>do badly because I'm an idiot and flying a level 5 chihaya eagle for challenges
>gold box
>it's a sachiko
if it were any other time I'd be happy about it but I wanted nagase asf-x
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>Ace Combat 7 never

Did the IP just not make enough money?
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Is anyone here collaborating in this tournament? Going solo isn't paying off. I'm pulling my weight, hitting
~40-60k pretty consistently in Avalon and B7R but I keep getting B or C rank thanks to teammates.

I'm pretty awful and still in the 1500s but I'm thinking of just joining high MR rooms for S rank. I will probably get wrecked and be lucky to even hit 20k, but I feel like it will be more worth it than my current situation.
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>>122875925
Sachiko and 2 other idols have an increased drop rate right now. This just makes getting Nagase so much more difficult to get.
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>>122876307
Assault Horizon happened.
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>>122876307
I think it's gonna come or that they'll at least start working on it before abandoning it completely. ACI still has tens of thousands of players, which is absolutely massive for a game that is somewhat niche.

Someone else speculated that ACI is just a test bed for new ideas that still allows them to earn some extra money, and I agree. It was largely scrapped together using existing assets, so even a lot of players didn't drop any money into it, it's probably still turning a very nice profit considering they're still releasing new content and the servers don't look like they're going down any time soon.
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>>122876453
So far I'm only joining challenge rooms. Should be easier to set up an /aceg/ room when Thunder starts the stream
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>>122876936
2 PM is kinda late though. If people can start somewhere around 7-10 AM, then that will let you easily get in at least 2 more sorties before you call it a day.

I started last night with 2 sorties and used my 3 daily a few hours ago, and I'm sitting at 6,500 in the ranks. I'm probably already back to 10,000+ at by now.
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>>122876663
Assault Horizon wasn't what killed AC. That's what they did to try to SAVE the series. It was already dead before then.
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>>122849572
How old are these people supposed to be?
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>>122871545
So, that's in about 40 minutes?
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>>122880536
>not knowing how to tell the time
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>>122880678
I love this gif so much.
I wonder if the guy himself has ever seen it.
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Does Fireryda post here?
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>>122880709
Hey there's daylight savng around these parts, shit's confusing already with the time conversions
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>>122881318
EST = eastern standard time != daylight saving time
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>do standard supplied run
>get 3 gold boxes
>F-20 event skin, chinese cartoon emblem, 3 stocked fuel

I'll never get that fucking nagase, but at least I got some fuel.
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More like 2030 GMT, sorry, I lied.
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>Mfw facing Excalibur for the first time ever cuz no ac0
>tfw mvpd it
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>>122881145
I hope not.
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Does anyone else here have the Nagase?

It took me like 60-70 fuel to get it and now I'm sitting at top 10 on the tournament.
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>>122881678
I'd be happy with the F-20 skin and stocked fuel. I've just gotten a Chinese cartoon emblem on my alt account. I wish you could trade them in for other shit. Hell I would take even 1 of any research report for these shitty emblems that I'll never use.
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>>122881912
Does everyone just hate all the Pootubers? I can see why people don't like Duck but I haven't heard or seen anything bad from the other ones.
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>>122882625
From reddit actually.
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>>122882272

I got it yesterday on supplied and I'm never gonna use it
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>Nagase
>3 stocked fuel
>F-20 skin
>Cocoon
>only 1 idolru
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>>122883315
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http://gematsu.com/2015/11/sony-confirms-ps2-emulation-coming-ps4

>When asked specifically whether that means disc-based PS2 emulation will also be supported, Sony would not comment.

Why bother asking? We all know the answer already. All those PS2 games you bought with your dad's hard-earned cash are just going to continue sitting on your shelf. Why would Sony let you play those when they can just charge you $20 to buy the games all over again as digital downloads?
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>>122883710
Why not buy a $50 ps2?
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>>122856168
>>122855948
I personally roll with Legendary Belkan Air Force and my Low-Vis Belka emblem. Man I wish they re-ran the tourney that had the Gault emblem.
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>>122883775
PS2s have a lot of moving parts and considering the poor condition of used PS2 games that I've purchased, I don't doubt for a second that any PS2 I buy at this point will last more than a month.
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>>122883710
Okay? I still have a PS2, so I don't give a fuck.
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>>122883892
I've had mine for 14 years and it still works fine. Quit making excuses and go buy a PS2.
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>>122884072
I already have one. And just because you take good care of your console, doesn't mean everyone else does.

If there's one less system for me to lug around or one less system cluttering the media center, then that's a big plus for me.
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>>122883892
>moving parts
Just get a hard drive+HDLoader. Rip your games and never worry about those moving parts ever again.
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Where my goys at?
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>>122885472
Oy Shoah, we can't let they goys know yet!
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>>122885472
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>>122882436
>I've just gotten a Chinese cartoon emblem on my alt account. I wish you could trade them in for other shit.

I guess this is the reason there isn't any kind of plane exchange or anything. People would abuse it with alt accounts.
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>>122885472
Oy gevalt! The goyim know
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>>122887159
Two of the biggest f2p games in the world have a robust trading system. There's no excuse for them not to have it. If their reasoning is because of what you mentioned, then that means that they fucked up in designing the game.

If they allowed you to respec or even reset your entire tree for some kind of penalty, then I would've gladly done it and never felt the need to start over with an alternate. There's no way that a person completely new to the game or new to the series is going to understand how everything works, including how long it takes to save credits, which parts are worth investing in, and which planes are worth prioritizing.
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I'm gonna burn 30 fuel later tonight to try to clear out the drop pool, and if I don't Nagashinden at that point I'm leaving the rest up to chance.

Not like it's going to be the end of the world if I don't get it. No, nothing like that at all.
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>>122889173
Don't get goyed my good man. You're playing into their hands.
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Where da stream at Thunder?
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Got 145 fuel and will be away for the weekend. Should I burn a bit?
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Stream is up: http://www.hitbox.tv/valetni
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>>122889173
>30 fuel
Enjoy your 2 idol emblems.
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>>122889270
I'd say 30 fuel is a drop in the bucket compared to blowing 100-200 for other prizes. I'll recover in due time.

I only have ~40 stocked at max anyway. Can't goy even if I wanted to.
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>>122889721
I would say save it up for a tournament you want to participate in.
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>>122889883
>Not F-20A skin and 30x tickets
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>>122890152
That "one man's trash" is true as hell. So many people here obsessed with collecting Chinese cartoons like trading cards. Meanwhile, I would absolutely love to have a skin for my favorite plane or tickets to buy some more silly shit in the store.
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>>122889721
That new XL is the new meta if you want it, 750 attacker bonus 4AGM's.
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>>122890554
I don't know if I'd call that new meta quite yet. The 725 cst. 4AGMs still work really well and I'm not convinced the slight damage boost makes much of a difference.
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>>122891029
There is no damage boost. 725 cst weapons do the same damage as 750 cst.
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>>122891180
I have my doubts. The assembler seems to note a damage difference between 525 and 550. Shouldn't that still be the case at 725 and 750?
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>>122891569
Most aircrafts in 500-550 range have actual damage cst at 600 that isn't reflected in the assembler. Kim Aba and Ganaharrier and Zipang Tomcat for examples all inflict damage comparable at 600cst instead of their starting cst.

Shitplanes also have larger cst buff. 775 cst planes on the contrary are handicapped to 750 cst damage.
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>>122891986
>>122891569
http://berkut.blog.jp/archives/1024453649.html
Berkut method has a list showing cst differences of most aircrafts. It hasn't been updated to include ones added from past few updates, but it should give you a good idea.
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<<Ruse>>
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>>122891986
>isn't reflected in the assembler
It actually is. That's what the handicap +1 or +2 or -1 or whatever means.
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>>122894696
You're right, but it'd be easier to understand if we saw the handicapped cst next to it or something. I should have clarified.
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EXCALIBUR TIME
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>>122896208
<< If you get shot down, crash where I can't see you! >>
>>
Thanks to everyone who pulled together and helped S rank that excalibur.

You guys da real MVPs.
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QAAMs or 4AAMs on SU-37?
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>>122897550
If you're going xAAms, go 6 or go home.
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Kind of weird how the game punishes your MR if you join a high MR room and don't dominate. If I get the same exact score playing in a high MR room as I do playing with people at a similar MR, it will still go down in the former case.
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Is there any way to check tourney rank either outside the game or even in the game without playing a mission?
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>>122899125
Go to event info.
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http://www.hitbox.tv/valetni

Val is streaming, get in here, aceg!
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>>122819280
Get in the stream, it's time to blow up the Chandelier
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For anyone who liked the original UN Squadron game, there's a neat looking game I found while browsing some streams. Looks more arcade-y and no health bar as far as I can tell, but it looks pretty cool. Sort of like a cross between Splatterhouse, UN Squadron, and Bio Menace.
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<<Ruse again>>
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fun fact :A-6 gets to drop four UGBs at a time.
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>>122905230
yooooooooooooooooooooooo

That's neat. The A-6 is cute.
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Did anyone make the mistake of researching EVERYTHING when they started playing? Exluding the topmost and a few bottom branches, I've researched every single thing and progressed planes to level 3 and 5 just for stupid challenges that weren't worth it.

I pretty much bought everything except for the Gripen, which is probably the only early multirole plane that would've been worth investing in. I feel like all is lost now.
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>>122907081
Hey, I'm actually doing this right now.
Just have fun brah
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>research has increased by 0.11

You'll be level 16 eventually
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>>122905230
Is the Nugget edition gonna reserved for goys only or will I be able to spend 400 golden dollarydoos on it?
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>>122907694
The face of someone who's given up hope.

That said, we should totaly steal her from /@/ for our team
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>>122907708
Top 1000 in a 6-7 new year tourney, was in the event info before it was taken off.
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>>122905230
hory shet
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We are Ass-Ho now: http://www.hitbox.tv/valetni
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>spend ten minutes waiting on one more person to join
>someone joins
>we ready up
>host goes to hangar
>he's been there the last five minutes
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>>122907957
>/@/ gets custom blenders for all their aidorus
I want the chihayan even more now
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>>122908396
This shit has been happening nonstpop since the update. I was the third person to join a room where we waited for over 10 minutes to get 8 people, and when we finally got the 8th and the countdown started, the second person who joined was kicked automatically for not selecting fuel. He was in the middle of sending a chat message as well.

How are you gonna sit in a room for over 10 minutes spamming stupid chat messages and not even select fuel? I feel like people are trying to deliberately sabotage rooms right now.
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>>122890554
>Meta
>SOD and GPB
>No LAGM or SFFS
Su-34 chinese girls and Su-34 thousand armed goat is still better.
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Burned 30 fuel, top 300, got 3 idols and nagase, did 5 Excalibur 1 and 1 Excalibur 2.

Am I on the right track aceg?
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>>122911276
Do you have 170 stocked left?
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>Still no idols
>Still no Excalibur
>No fuel drops
>No plane drops
[spoiler[Only Tickets[/spoiler]
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>>122913110
I've only gotten Chinese cartoons. I'd rather have nothing at all than these emblems cluttering my collection.
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>>122911212
>No LAGM or SFFS
>SFFS was nerfed to hell
Come again..?
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>J35J -Cipher-

Bamco please
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>>122915118
What. EXPLAIN FURTHER. I NEED TO KNOW.
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>>122915118
You know, I'd never thought about it, but from the picture I take it decreasing your plane's level to below a level that gives extra slots will remove the slots?
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>>122915154
No further details yet, but it was leaked in this article talking about the new level select feature

http://www.gamer.ne.jp/news/201511190080/
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>>122915154
>>122915118
It was revealed in a Japanese article screenshot. We don't know anything else AFAIK.

But considering that Avalon Dam TDM map was announced, this screenshot has appeared, and the fact we haven't yet had a Cipher rerun...

You know what date is coming up next month?
20th Anniversary of the raid on Avalon Dam. December 31, 1995.
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>>122915118

>still no F-4E Mobius
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>>122914828
>SFFS was nerfed to hell
first mention of this in thread
explain
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>>122917148
Not him but apparently SFFS from what I heard got a nerf from the recent update. Rumour has it it's pretty bad now.
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I wonder how many of the top 3,000 are duplicates/alt accounts. I can't believe the competition is this fierce at this point in the game's life cycle. The awards are good but I don't think they're THAT good.
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>>122907957
Oh, right.
When was that soccer thing again?
and how does soccer work, exactly?
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>>122917590
People are burning fuel to grab the limited-time drops. Rank points are just side-effects.

You should have seen what the tournament was like during the idolpacolypse.
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>>122917712
I forget, do you even like soccer?
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>>122917807
I hope they chill out then within the next few days. Top 1,000 would be cool but I just really want the MTD. I've already burned 10 or 12 stocked and I'm barely hanging in the top 3,000. It's really a huge hit or miss when it comes to teammates, especially with regards to this new raid mission where it seems like only one person in the room has any clue what's going on.
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>>122917590
Idols, extra credits on raids, new raids, update, new plane stop that only lasts a week.

Put all these things together, and the tournament becomes ridiculous very quick.

>>122917560
I'll need I source on that. Japanese Twitter says it's exactly the same
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>>122917712
We have a friendly match a week from tomorrow, then matches are based on the draw for groups
Check the implyingrigged wiki page for the thread for info
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>>122919115
>I'll need I source on that. Japanese Twitter says it's exactly the same
Apparently according to rumours it was one of those undocumented changes.
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>>122919642
Yes, but who is the source. Just because it's undocumented didn't mean you can vaguely throw around statements without a source. Look at #ACEINF SFFS.

The Jap players only said lobbing is now possible for SFFS and UGB, and range increased for UGB, but that SFFS haven't changed in any visible way in flight test, so the only thing that could have changed is the damage per bomb.
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>First ever Excalibur mission is II
>Bring my harrier with Rockets
>Oh shit!
>Holy shit!!
>Lasers beams and drones everywhere
>Somehow didn't die even once despite cruising at a slug's pace and flying with my belly to the ground
>Less than 40 secs left
>RKTL's securing the final kill and landing me MVP

That was pretty intense, 9/10
Needed just a few more lasers.
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>>122920343
>range increased for UGB
Range = blast radius? If so, it hasn't changed. It was buffed the patch before last not this one.
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I swear, we wouldn't even need to have this discussion if Bamco was a itty bitty little more open about the changelog.

But no, they'd rather have us figure it out ourselves in the dark while there's shit everywhere. It's almost as if they enjoy this.
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>>122921825
>as if they enjoy this.
>as if

I thought it was obvious at this point that they do.
>>
>Challenge room
>I steer completely clear of host's targets
>We B rank because 2 nuggets but I MVP
>Host closes room and recreates

I'm sorry did you just get butthurt in a challenge room when I didn't take a single kill of yours? Did you really expect to get an S rank when everybody is flying shit challenge planes?
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>>122921084
Range as in how far they can fly from the plane.
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>>122921825
Yep, It's a part of there game design philosophy. They do the same shit with Tekken to. They do it to promote communication within the games community. It supposed to help the longevity of the game by keeping people talking about it and studying the changes.
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>>122925024
People who are way too touchy like that ruin the fun. . He should sortie with friends if it's that important to him.
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>>122758409
>AC7 maybe
Source, please ?
Bamco hasn't teased us anything yet
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Just got my Nagase :3
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>>122925730
Only hearsay at this point, but a fairly reliable data miner source says an AC7 emblem event is inbound at the start of December
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>>122927323
He also said the Adler was in this patch. It's not the first time he's thrown in a few ruses to get people riled up.
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>>122925730
Chinese data miners said they might announce something during the Playstation Experience Dec 5-6. Don't hold your breath, they lied about the Adler.
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>>122925730
>>122927323
>>122927376
>>122927592

They had added the CFA-44 patches ago with the fenrir and X-49 and they just barely released it.
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>>122927376
It can be in this patch, but not released

Like that SP ATD-0 that we haven't got to see yet
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>>122927376
>>122928349
To be fair, we did get Strigon Leader before the standard CFA-44 was added to the tree. Adler might be the same case.
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Just tried out UGB in test flight. Reload and lobbing is still pretty bad, but the radius is fairly big with UGB Explosives+ M.

At Lv.4+Part a single bomb can almost wipe out the 16 dummy target cluster.
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>>122929741
Level 5 can wipe out the cluster completely if you aim completely in the middle. Reload speed is equal to LASM/LAGM. Lobbing is a bit better than before, you get double the distance at higher speeds now (really shows how shit the old drop mechanic was).

It's actually a pretty good SPW on attackers because it can kill XSAMs without damage parts. Kinda shitty on multiroles but at least you can kill reds with 2 bombs at once.
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/aceg/, is it true that the stealth L increases damage? I slapped it to my Vanilla Morgan and thought that it increases damage
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>>122930082
No. the "damage" bars are the biggest bullshit of them all.
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>>122929972
>Reload speed is equal to LASM/LAGM
So you mean they made it better? It was absolutely awful before, even with Hard Points.
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>>122930213
U sure that it lowers the damage or it is a lie like what you guys say?
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>>122930469
I mean higher sorry
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>>122930469
>Believing in stat bars

I bet you believe that brakes increase speed
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>>122930469
It lowers the chance of damage since less likely to be targeted.
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>>122930632
>>122930648
Ok so i change my stealth L into Engine LL?
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>>122930774
I wouldn't bother with stealth outside of TDM/Emergency ______ Strike
And even then, I'd prefer armor over stealth.
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>>122930312
No, they were close to the same. At L5 both UGB/LASM had a base reload speed of around 10s, going down to ~8s with reload L.

This was about 5 months ago, I haven't tested what it's like now.
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>>122930774
Yes, gotta go fast son

>>122930982
>Armor
>Getting hit

I bet you use fire extinguisher too
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>>122930469
It doesn't do anything at all to damage. The bars don't mean anything.
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>>122931467
And ground hit def as well.
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>>122931424
I main the Weasel. LAGM definitely reloads significantly faster than UGB. That's the main reason I stopped using UGB.

At least, that's how it was before the current patch. I haven't played since last week so I haven't tested yet.
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>>122931467
and I bet you feed cruise missiles to the enemy team in NTDM too.
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>>122931424
>>122931606
UGB was nerfed like...almost a year ago? when most berkunts died and that
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>>122931467
>TDM
>Not using armor
Thanks for the free wins buddy.
Or are you seriously going to tell me you don't get hit at all.
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>>122931606
>I main the Weasel.

Absolute madman.
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>>122931706
>tfw Divine Will
>All my expansions slots
>The ruse cruise never fails
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>>122931735
They've been getting small buffs here and there for a while.
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>>122930982
>>122931467
>>122931479
Well thanks though, i just test flighty vanilla Morgan and now its insane fast

Pic related because of that speed
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>>122931896
>Or are you seriously going to tell me you don't get hit at all.
When you got good speed and manoeuvrability you're pretty much untouchable circling around, only random TLS manage to scratch me, but that's nothing
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>>122932573
sure buddy. sure.
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>>122926732
I will get mine too right ;_;
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>>122911557
Burned another 20 fuel, got 5 more Excalibur 1, 4 more Excalibur 2 and 2 Excalibur 3

And 2 more idols.

And I hit top 100.

Are people just ignoring this tournament?
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>>122935081
Wait till the final stretch. That's always when shit hits the fan at mach 1 tournament wise.
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>>122935081
>Are people just ignoring this tournament?
>Burned another 20 fuel

Not everyone is burning 20 fuel and not everyone is getting Excalibur 55% of the time, and even when they do, they're not necessarily getting S or even A.

I've burned around 12 stocked in addition to 8 supplied so far and I'm barely in the top 3,000.
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>Finally get to sortie in Excalibur
>Approaching the main turret
>Suddenly LASERS EVERYWHERE
>Some guy messages <<Time to dive into the fireworks!>> before shit starts to get crazy
>Barely S-rank

Okay, that was pretty cool. You win this one Bamco.
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>>122935483
I've gotten two Excaliburs so far and hit C rank both times. I don't understand why hardly anyone understands what they're doing. I know it's a new raid but it's not that hard to figure out that you shoot shit and dodge shit.
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>mfw mvp'ing three times in a row with my ECM fencer

I'm really liking CST restrictions.
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>>122937229
I can't tell if she's being drunk, lewd or scared in that photo.
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>>122937229
I got that one earlier today
I've only seen part of the anime I don't know who most of this batch is.
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So, 346 pro or 765 pro /aceg/?
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>>122939412
765, no contest.
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>>122939412
765. even though I like both a lot.

I honestly think love live is incredibly weak in the character design department and the official art isn't as good as the CG art for starlight stage and the card games. I've also listened to a couple of the songs and they really did nothing for me and sounded kinda generic.I do find it funny that I read some people like love live for the main reason of not having a producer character even though in most of the anime series he's one of the best characters.
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>1st time in excalibur 1
>triple stock
>S rank
>gold box
>cash drop, stocked fuel, 30 tickets
thanks obamco.
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>>122939412
346 girls a shit. they managed to get almost all of the uninteresting girls for the anime.
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>1775MR Avalon challenge room to clear attacker challenges
>Dude with the username MychaelJordan rolls up
>He completely wrecks everyone with his YGBSM
Holy fuck, now thats what I call a slamjam
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>>122940353
>That one song P did in puchimasu about being alone
>It actually didn't sound bad
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>>122940945
Weasel ain't nothin to fuck with
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>>122940945
>YGBSM
>MychaelJordan
>You Gotta Be Slamming Me

>>122941091
And that, anon, is an example of why producer is one of the best characters.
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>>122940353
Man, I totally agree with that.

>>122941091
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22223401

I actually like the two songs that Broducer got to sing.
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>>122941280
>It's a mask
We all know Broducer's true form
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>>122941186
meanwhile 346 producer is a beta shit with a broken face. can't produce, can't make decisions and needs to be pushed along by an enko
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>>122941806
Double Biceps P-head?
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>>122939412
346

I don't get these 765 loyalist.
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>>122927323
>>122927376
>>122927592
Yeah, I think he lied about the AC7, like he lied about Adler.
Either that or maybe the upcoming "Ace Combat" game he claimeded to be teased at Playstation Experience turns out to be the upcoming Idolmaster game.
Besides, if there is to be AC7, why would they put the raw data inside ACI ? It's kinda unusual to see the data/hints of upcoming game embedded inside the current F2P game.
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>2v2 weapons base assault
>teammate has f-15smtd
>rivals have a f-2
>I'm doing hpaa challenges so I'm in a fighter
>f-15 with 2200 cst gets his ass reamed with barely 10k at the update.
>disconnects

F-2 had 150k at the end. He wasn't half bad
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Well, looks like Panzooka fucked up Acecombatskies some how. I wonder when they get that place fixed up.
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>Rare drop chance has been increased
>burn 20 fuel
>not a single fucking raid or gold box
fuck me jesus christ
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>>122943005
>Increase in rare drops!
>X will appear more frequently!

Gets me every time.
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>>122940945
now that's what i call a clubber
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>Increased drop chance for these idols
>Get all the other idols
Bamco, this isn't how things work.
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>>122937229
>>122937374
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>346 idols instead of puchi emblems
not even remotely interested
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>>122944616
Now that's just saddening
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>put up a challenge room
>2 sorties later, get Excalibur
>never done this before, how hard can it be
>oh god save me, why did I sortie with a Figh-oh there's some flying stuff at least
>barely fail to S rank
>2 more seconds of machinegun fire and Excalibur explodes, bugger
>"it's ok, have a gold box"
>thanks for the tick--oh it's a plane
>ASF-X -NG-
Thanks Bamco. You're alright sometimes.
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The Icemen delivered.
Dropped last night.
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Finished the ATd challenges.
The paintjob is the standard blue JSDF one.
r actually, it should be, since when I equip it it's the standard one.
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>>122948129
>The paintjob is the standard blue JSDF one.
I am so goddamn sick of that skin.

Just give me solid colors or camo with choices like the beta had. Still mad they took the F-16 skin and made a 1-star SP plane out of it.
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>>122948870
I hate SP planes in general. They should all just be skins. There's no reason for them to be separate planes.
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>>122948972
I would be fine with them if they were fewer in number and had different SPW layouts. I think it'd be interesting to have fighters with A2G and attackers with A2A. Obviously that wouldn't be optimal or meta, but it would be interesting.
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>>122949309
>fighters with A2G and attackers with A2A
So basically like the loadouts from the older games?
>Obviously that wouldn't be optimal or meta, but it would be interesting.
Oh the meta can get fucked, I personally would enjoy watching the meta get wrecked.
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>>122949309
I don't think they really meant to add so many when they first started.

The SP planes really only came into existence because the Morgan and F-16F weren't on the standard tree at first, so they had to set them aside. But then, they started adding more and more SP planes, and it became its own massive thing.
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Interested in leveling the Strigon CFA-44? USAFgoyim has the price for it, only 26,491,360 credits for level 16. Get saving.
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>>122949668
Eh? I don't think the meta would change, Wouldn't the fighter A2G and Attacker A2A penalties be too harsh? Still though, I wish I had enough money to have goyed for the Alberio. I'd really like to take MSTM for a spin.
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>>122947101
Nice
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>>122907708
>double nugget
I want this
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>>122950423
No matter what the desired outcome is, the meta can still change, as long as people expand their knowledge and desire change.

Today's meta has already changed from what it was back then.
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>>122954651
Well, we went to Bombkut, STD and 6AAM spam to Craptorito, STD and 6AAM spam.
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>Join [>1500 only] B7R room
>Get kicked
Then what's the point, fucker.

>Stumble upon Excalibur II
>Get kicked
I completely understand.
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>Just chilling, trying to do my QAAM challenges on my Pixy on a 1500 cst room B7R
>Teammate is Whyvern 6AAM
>I outscore everyone, despite just aiming to complete my challenge above all else
>Whyvern is bottom scorer
>Host has closed the room.

And I still have not yet encountered ANY Excaliburs.
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>B7R challenge room
>doing 180 QAAM kills in X-29A
>buddy in QAAM X-29A too
>outscore 6AAM boat rivals

It was cool. Then
>Excalibur I
>Miss S rank by a tiny margin in the last traget health

Should've known better by now. Fun is ephemeral.
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>>122960862
Not really. I just returned after two months of absence to check out Excalibur and the cost restricted rooms — those are cool, but 1500 and 1800 is a lot. Speaking of which, how does the level adjustment work? Can I only do it if I'm in a cost-restriced room?
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>>122964759
During plane selection when you edit your set. Also you can't change the levels of your plane without having to reequip your parts.
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>>122965570
Is it as inconvinient as it sounds?
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>>122966005
It is.
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Anyone need to burn their daily? I'd rather not play with randoms this week because I actually want to have a shot in this tourney.
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Does anyone know the numbers for stacking reload parts? Im building a 1500 CST Growler, and since Im focusing on Standards I just wanted to know if it was worth stacking reload L and that hybrid reload part M. I was also going to put on the hybrid Improved homing M for A2A help. However, I only have 32 slots. So what do?
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>>122968621
If you want a shot at this tourney you better open up your wallet, no amount of S rank carrying is going to help if you can't average 60k+ points a game, and by that point you can just carry noobs anyway

>>122969015
I'd prioritize it this way:
Damage up to the next breakpoint>reload>homing>double reload>double homing>extra damage
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>1500 cst limit room
>Tfw teammate brings FAEBMTD with nothing but bomb parts

Now that's just flat-out obnoxious.
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>>122969521
Hmm, I'll give it a shot.

But I'm assuming that stacking reload parts just gives you some sort of diminishing returns? Like if I stacked Reload L with the Hybrid Reload M, it'll only take off maybe half a second?

I just want to know if it was worth it. Being a Growler, I have lots of slots to play around with, but I definitely want to include at least Homing L or Hybrid homing M. I just wish that there were actually numbers to look at. But god damn, this 1500 cst limit thing is super fun. Reminds me of GT6's PP system, except Base cost kinda ruins everything
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>>122969790
Reload parts work with percentages afaik, so you will see diminishing returns on the second part. It might still be worth it, depending on how often you find yourself locked onto an enemy, waiting for your missiles. I believe people on ACS have done hard number tests, but you can also easily replicate those with a stopwatch or timer and Test Flight mode.

>>122967098
I guess I'll make some 1500cst sets then.
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>>122969790
Well base cost does improve base specs, and SPW damage and ammo. I find my Pixy level 11(decreased) with nothing but SPW reload for my QAAM challenge in 1500cst rooms tends to wreck B7R, despite me being relatively unfamiliar with QAAM (I would rather HPAA desu)
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>>122969521
>no amount of S rank carrying is going to help

I don't know about that, I played yesterday with some good people and my rank got bumped to the lower 1000s. I'm averaging ~55k in Avalon and Pipeline when I play with people at my rank but then I never get S rank. There's always someone picking a fighter and then not attacking any air targets.
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>Excalibur III
>Whip out Miki because I don't trust anyone else going after the UAVs
>It takes an HPAA + a standard to kill a single UAV
>CFA-44s have even more health
>Get shot down by the Nosferatus while weaving through the laser net
>Miss the S rank because we didn't have enough attackers and barely brought the final target to half health

I'm impressed that they can make Excalibur this entertaining. It makes me wonder what the will do with Megalith or Archelon Fortress.

Aside from the fact that two people in the room couldn't carry their weight and I got blinded by my team's Fenrir and Akula, this is probably the most fun I've had with this game outside of TDM.
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>>122970239
How many ranking points are you making? Unless it's in the 1200-1500 range you're going to need a few dozen fuel to actually get into and stay in the top 1000 after tomorrow
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>>122970067
>Reload parts work with percentages afaik
From my tests. This seems to check out.
Reload M = 20% reduction, Reload L = 25% reduction, Quick Recharge = 33%, Basic datalink = 25%
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Looks like Excalibur IV will be a nighttime mission.
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>>122971863
The biggest, blackest beam
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>>122971150
14500. I'm sitting just outside 3,000 right now.

If I can actually get Excalibur and with good teammates, it would bump me up significantly. I've have 3 Excaliburs so far, 2 with C rank because my teammates didn't know what they were doing and 1 with S rank that bumped me up like 2,000 ranks.

Already wasted 9 stocked on the 2 Excaliburs where we got C rank.
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>>122939412
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>>122972354
>I'm sitting just outside 3,000 right now.
It may be true that this game has no need for tournaments but will getting rid of them make whales spend any less? The game won't change for the better until Ace Combat 7 comes out. Ace Combat 7 is vital to reset this twisted world, but that will never happen. I'm still playing this twisted game.
Right now I'm also near a border. I want to see for myself how much fuel I need for shitden and how many tickets I'll actually get. I may not find what I'm looking for but I'm still wanna try.
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who Waiting for Rena Rerun here? only plane I regret not getting.
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Guys, would you be up to see a livestream of Ace Combat 3?
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>>122973324
>how much fuel I need for shitden

I think this is partly why scrubs like me are having a rough time. A few people in this thread said that they dropped like 35+ fuel just to get the drop, and they're presumably better players than me and with better planes. They probably also S ranked Excalibur III a bunch of times.

The Shinden would be cool but I'd much rather have the MTD. If I can get something out of this damn tournament, then I'm probably never going to participate in another one ever again. The whole thing is such a shit show.
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>>122973440
>No COFFINs

Nah.
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>>122973440
I'm waiting for Razgriz.
But apparently it's coming too soon and I can't be here during Christmas. Fuck it all.
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>>122973607
Lucky for you, performance doesn't matter for drops. Just throw more money at it goy.
Rough times on MTD tho.
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>>122973812
Hoping the S1 Flanker is flanker-only tourney again
;_;
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>>122973471
I'd be up for it
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>>122973471
will you be doing ALL routes? I assume you'll be playing the JP version
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>>122975963
Nice. I'll start soon then

>>122976840
Of course (Disk 1 translated too)
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>B7R
>Last enemy is tight on my tail
><< Help me out over here! >>
><< Help me out over here! >>
><< Help me out over here! >>
><< Help me out over here! >>
>My teammate continues flying around in fucking circles across the map and lets the enemy team get the kill

Now I see why people get upset at this game.
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>>122975963
>>122976840
http://www.livestream.com/ridaz

Will start Ace Combat 3 in a couple of minutes. (Won't talk on mic either)
It'll be a fresh campaign too.
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>>122978164
There isn't much of an incentive for teamwork on B7R, as most fighters can twist and reverse a tail far better than NPC planes (unless they are Scyllas).
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Question for you guys:

Do you think the AC5 flightstick would work with 4 and 0?

I was considering grabbing the stick for 6, but that only works for 1 game, and if the flight stick for 5 works with 3 games, that's a no brainer.
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>>122979462
I think it does, it also works with lethal skies if I remember right.
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>>122979119
Ok ready now. Tell me in chat when you want me to start.
Forgot to say; I'll play till Valetni arrives and resumes his stream
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>>122979415
Yeah it was a mild example, just another thing adding to the pool of annoyances, like when I split up from my teammate and then he follows me and tries sniping an SP target after I did 90% of the damage.

In this case, it was the middle of the mission with the souped up enemy planes and I was flying a level 1 F-15C. I was actually flying around for over a minute trying to avoid the missiles while my teammate was well within range to stop being a cunt and actually try helping me out, but he decided it would be better to just be useless.
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>>122979119
>>122979692

I was gonna hold off on doing infinity supplied (only thing I have planned for today) until you were done, so don't worry about me.
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>>122979787
Alright. I guess I'll start. Let's try finishing a path in one take.
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>>122979462
Seriously considering this.
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Post things
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>>122986252
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>>122986391
This never fails to trigger me
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>>122986806
If by trigger, you mean giggle like a little girl, then I agree with you.
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>>122986391
>>122986923
evrytiem
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Brain, you got me good with the Excalibur Bug.

Flew Excalibur exclusively for 18 hours.

30 EX 1, 15 EX 2, 4 EX 3

I swear they buffed the spawn rates. Its like the beta all over again.
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I see people who are worse than me with top 3,000 prizes from previous tournaments, yet I can't break into the top 3,000 myself and it has barely even begun. I don't understand.
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>>122988230
<< I don't understand. >>
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>>122989151
Buy more fuel, goy. Tournaments aren't about skill.
>>122986923
>it specifically says EUROFIGHTER TYPHOON on the tail
I can't believe I never noticed that. These images just got that much better.
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Decided to be a good goy and bought some fuel.

Expect a long run of infinity when I start streaming. As always, people are welcome to join me.
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>>122993587
Stream when?
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>>122993876
Whenever ridaz finishes with AC3.
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>>122994079
Can you announce when you start streaming? I'd like you join you again today. Those 150k credits yesterday from Excalibur were delicious.
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>>122994625
Yeah, I will.
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Feelio when I want to play with /aceg/ but whenever I come back to the game I feel like a nugget.
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>>122995227
I have literally never seen a single person in this entire game fly a plane below 1200 cst except for me and people who are brand new and just started playing the same day. I doubt anyone with a level 15 Wyvern gives a shit about the cost of 16-20 anyway when they're shitting down everyone's throat as it is.
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>>122995283
No one really cares if you do poorly when you're flying with /aceg/ in infinity, and if they do, they're not really the kind of person I want to be flying with.

The more important thing is not to be a piece of shit.
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>>122995371
Get fucked ADF-01 and Wyvern Bitches. Your grace period is over! Level 16-20 is going to just as painful for you as it is for the rest of us poor 800cst flying fuckers. Enjoy having to pay 21,708,000 up front for level 16.

>>122995371
Sorry I forgot my image.

But no you're right. I'm sure plenty of people probably won't care. But it does me some good knowing They can no longer get away with having such a low cost for a fellow 800cst aircraft.
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Just got an excalibur 1. I hadn't planned to start streaming this early, but if people want in, let me know.
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>>122995428
>mfw I do poorly
>mfw I'm a piece of shit
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>>122995856
>quote the same person twice.
Fuck it, i'm not editing that a third time.

Anyway, cost aside one thing is for sure. Anyone that pays out the ass to level one of those things those monsters to 20 should never need arms slots for there standards. The ADF-01 and R-101 can 1 shot all non-hard mode reds up to 2400 without parts. Not to mention there homing bonus would be ridiculous. I wouldn't be surprised if even M parts don't stop working correctly for them at that point.
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>>122996321
I'd like to join.
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>>122996490
Send me a friend request if we're not already friends.
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>>122996546
I sent you one last night when we finished Excalibur. It should be pending on your end.
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>>122996634
Alrighty.
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Anyone else?

I'm willing to kick randos to make room for /aceg/ people, just let me know you want in.
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Alright /aceg/, stream is here: http://www.hitbox.tv/valetni/profile

As always, send me an invite if you're interested, I'm gonna be hosting for a few hours.
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>>122997302
Damn, 140k credits + research in that mission! Thanks for the invite, gonna spend some stocked now.
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>>122997302
What timezone are you in? I'd be interested Sunday or Monday. Or tonight at around 20:00-00:00 CST
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http://www.livestream.com/ridaz

While you guys are waiting for Val's room to fill up; We're taking on Rena and the NIght Raven
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>>122998347
I'm (b)EST timezone.

I usually sortie whenever. Gonna be playing just straight for a few hours tonight.
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What state/country are all you aces from?
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>>122999026
Finland
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>>122999248
Wow. Same here.
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>>122999026
New Zealand
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>>122999293
Really? I thought that I was the only Finn playing this game.
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>>122754537
how do i git gud?
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>>122999302
Oceania represent!

>>122999026
Australia here
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>>122999413
Yep. Guess it's kind of rare. I know one other guy who plays.. or, well, used to play while back.
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>>122999026
Philadelphia

>captcha 1776
>mfw
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>>122999026
New Jersey/NH depending on when it is

>>122999968
>tfw been to Philly far too many times to count
>tfw still feel freer each time
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>>122999746
Buy fuel goy
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>>122999746
Check the guide in the OP
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>>122999746
Practice makes perfect. Unfortunately, you only get about half an hour of practice every 24 hours.
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>>122999026
Sweet home Alabama reporting in.
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>haven't played in months
>TLS game has deteriorated to the point where it sucks dick now
Fug.

>>122999026
Reppin SoCal.
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>>123003341
>Swiveling lens part when?
>TLS Damage L when?
>TLS Fuel L when?
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>>122999026
Germany.

>>122997302
I'll join you for a few games.
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>>122999026
U.S.A. Florida
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>>122996449
If they got them to level 15 in the first place, they're probably not afraid to throw money at the game. In my case, even if they're level 1, they'll shit on anything that I own. It's a doggy dog world out there.
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>>122999026
Poortugal
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>weeks without playing ACI on PS3
>decides to play
>update 860mb
>mfw
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>>122999968
I'm Philly area too.

Bensalem desu senpai
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Aw man, I got the Nagase drop last night and was super excited. I checked the prices on gwiki just now and holy cow. Judging from the 1st 4 levels this thing is going to be about 2.5 times as expensive to level as the vanilla version.

Are the added stats worth the extra price? It looks damn sexy and it's obviously at least somewhat improved over the vanilla version but I've got other projects that need my attention. Plus, even if the vanilla looks dogshit ugly it's got some nice nicknames.
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>>123005650
Me too
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>>123006534
Nagase shinden's weapons are going to do the same damage as stock shinden due to cst handicap, but I'd say the massive speed improvement alone is worth the investment.
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>>123006534
I would use it just for the looks if I got it. Black with orange trim, not a fan of the Shinden body normally but that paint scheme is sick.
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Got another excal, hit me up if you want an invite.
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>>122999026
Pizza< Pasta, Mafia, Mandolino
Basically on the Alps, precisely
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>>123005650
>>123006560
Portugal is a great country. I've always been very impressed with Portugese posters I've run across on /int/.

http://a.pomf.hummingbird.moe/quhaaj.webm
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>>123010132
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Alright, I'm done with Ace Combat infinity for the moment. Thanks for everyone who joined me in flying.
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>>123007080
Yeah, echoing this. At level 10 the vanilla has B+ speed. Nagase reaches that at level 4. There's just no competition.
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>>122999026

Maryland, though isn't this a column in the list of aces?
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>>123014739
Not all of us are namefigs or put ourselves on those lists you know.
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Out of curiosity, do you think that a "realistic" Ace Combat-style game could work? Obviously it would be under a different name.

By realistic I really do mean realistic, too. Having 6 or 8 missiles on your jet, having to rearm when your run out, all that jazz.
I mean, it would essentially be a simulator at that point, but do you think that it would work for a game? With narrative and mission structure and all that?
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I've blown ~40 fuel and still no shinden. Being an ace is truly suffering.
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>>123019179
Blown 65 here mate, no shinden either. I know the feeling.
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>>123019179
I've blown ~35 fuel and I've gotten strictly Chinese cartoons. Scamco, stop. Stop it with the Chinese cartoons. Out of every single person who plays this game, I am the last person who wants them. Stop giving them to me. I will even take 30 tickets. Please give me fuel. Anything but these Chinese cartoons. PLEASE.
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>>123018132
I'd probably check it out but I don't think it would be fun in the long run. It would just be Strafe Run: The Game. The missions would be extremely short and 90% of the emphasis would be on landing your aircraft and refueling.

Dogfights could be interesting but every single one would just be like mediocre boss battle. I much prefer the arcade style of Ace Combat.
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>>122999026
NZ, somewhere sunny.
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>>123018132
Aero elite and the Lethal skies games are the closest too that.

>>123019179
I got everything off supplied somehow and since the gold crate increase I've gotten about 10. I've never had this kind of luck before.the only drop I wanted was the cocoon.

>>123020138
where do you think you are?
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>>122999026
Canada.
Avro Arrow in Ace Combat when?

Don't answer that... i-it's a rhetorical question ;_;
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The gate to level 20 has been opened. My fuel shall be the credits that pay the upgrade. When the sleeping waifu awakes, My "body", too, shall surely rise."
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>>123018132
If you make it "realistic" you necessarily take out the Ace Combat aspect of it. People bitch about Ace Combat being the last real flight arcade game but the flight sim business is still relatively strong.

In the end it's less like comparing apples and oranges and more like saying "what if an apple was an orange?" At the end of the day people who like apples still like apples and people who like oranges still like oranges, even if one becomes the other.
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>lvl 3 A-6 nickname is Duckling
this is adorable
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>>123024975
More like Ugly Duckling.
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redpill me on this aces
im rank #21 second lieutant
do i have to get to rank #20/#19 to advance to next "named rank" or i need to go all the way to second lieutant #1 to go to the next "named rank"?
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>>123022969
Napier?
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>>123025876
you have to go to #1 and then level again.
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>>123025962
Close, Hastings.
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>>123026235
Ah nice, I'm up at auckland. Nonstop rain, you guys are pretty lucky.
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>>123026361
Saw you guys had a rough night, been a crazy spring alright. Slapped some paint around so earned a beer and some AC:I.

>>123024975
Starting to upgrade as got the feeling it will be in challenges soon.
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Fuck me.
I haven't played Ace Combat in forever, just noticed this general exists, makes me want to play Zero again.
Does it emulate well enough to play or will I have to get a copy off Amazon?
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>>123026970
Amazon is your friend, emulation is possible but kinda glitchy
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>>123025876
I've got a red pill for you.
Buy more fuel, goy.
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>>123027107
Damn. Why didn't Sony just put it on the PS Store? Or at least do an HD rerelease.
Oh well, time to dust off the old PS2 I guess.
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>>123026970
If you have a good setup, Emulation is fine on AC5/0. 4 is still a bit whacky. You have to fiddle with graphics emulation settings though.
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>>123024975
Duck is already using it. Played a couple missions in his room.
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>>123027638
Does he already have it at level 20? I wonder if he'll upload a video. I can't see him ever using anything other than a goyplane or MTD.
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Who is AWACS guy referring to when he says "We have a pilot here who takes good care of their plane"?

Who is the enemy referring to when they say "Ignore him, he's got a modded plane"?
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>>123027985
(You)
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>>123027789
He probably just has a ton of reports. Flew an Akula in Moscow and Fullback in Excalibur
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>>123027789
>guy who dumps 1000's of dollars (no exaggeration) into the game
>Quit infinity because "oh my god they banned me for doing illegal stuff I quit
>comes back not even a week later
>spends more money

wouldn't be surprised if he has some SP plane at level 20 right now.
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>>123028629
Is he the son of a rich Arab who discovered a large reserve of oil on his property?
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>>123028629
He gets the money from Google. Hopefully ABP means he got nothing from the couple of vids I watched.
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>>123028798
Simply viewing a money gives them money.
Less than ad revenue of course, but it's something.
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>>123028910
>Simply viewing a money gives them money.
What
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>>123029216
Fuck, viewing a video.
I didn't get much sleep.
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>>123029290
I didn't even notice your mistake and autocorrected it in my head. I R the braindead one.
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>Infinity still isn't on PS4
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>>123029382
Nah, you just got fooled into seeing what you expected
Our brain is weird like that, able to fool itself into seeing things the way it thinks they're meant to be if they aren't already like that
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>>123029980
Good. I don't want to pay $5/month to play a game that only lets you play 30 minutes per day.
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>>123029382
I'm pretty sure that's actually the opposite of a braindead thing to do.

Your brain tends to make assumptions about things like language and reading, so when it sees the words "simply viewing" and understands the context of what's being said, your brain essentially goes "oh, the next word is video" and doesn't even really pay attention to what's actually written.

It's also why typos aren't generally noticed until you read something more than once. Your brain just needs to know what the words mean, not how they're written.

The human brain is pretty fuckin' neat.
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>>123029980
If it I did I still won't buy one. Still got my PS2 so I'm covered.

>>123030316
To my understanding F2P games are exempt .
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>>123030582
>To my understanding F2P games are exempt .
This is true. See: Warfame, Jewthunder
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>>122999026
Southern California here
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Welp, I went ahead and got the "Holy Trinity" off Amazon. They were way cheaper than I anticipated, which is nice. I await them with bated breath.

Also, why does the FAQ shit on Assault Horizon so hard?
I mean, sure it's definitely not as good as the other AC games, and the QTE bullshit was pretty infuriating, but it had some great parts in it.
Also you gotta admit, playing as an actual bomber was pretty fun.
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>gold box
>3 stocked fuel
I suppose I could use more fuel for my 2nd run later tonight
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>>123033539
AH would be better if they removed the words "Ace Combat" from the title. Then we wouldn't shit on it as hard. If it was just "Assault Horizon" it wouldve been taken better. It's still better than HAWX though.
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>>123034258
>AH would be better if they removed the words "Ace Combat" from the title. Then we wouldn't shit on it as hard. If it was just "Assault Horizon" it wouldve been taken better. It's still better than HAWX though.

Honestly, this. If I had picked up "Assault Horizon" just to see what it was like and had no prior expectations of it I probably wouldn't have minded it. It suffers from a lot of bullshit but it was alright to play. Parts were cool. This whole "the campaign is just a tutorial for the online multiplayer" horseshit has got to stop though. Not just AC, too many big-budget games do this.
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>>123029980
Honestly, this and DUST 514 are pretty much the only reason I still use my ps3. That and I'm stuck in a sunk cost situation with destiny so I figure I might as well keep it ND play it from time to time.
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>>123034258
>It's still better than HAWX though.

Other than shit story and expert controls for 3rd person cinematic control only, I thought HAWX1 was alright. I enjoyed it. More than Scripted Combat: ASS. haven't played HAWX2, heard it's much worse though.
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>>123037018
HAWX 2 wasn't that bad iirc. No worse than the first. The one thing I really liked about it, and all the other Clancy games made around that time was the interconnected universe. It made all their individual stories seem much more important in the grand scheme of things; that they have impact on each other.
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>Only encountered one Excalibur I when update first came out
>Haven't seen any raids ever since

That mission was absolute fun and I just want to feel alive again.
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>>123034878
I think Cawadoody 4 was the turning point when game developers realized that there's more money to be had in multiplayer development than in dedicating resources to campaign. I'm old as fuck and I still prefer single player shit, but apparently kids these days will skip over an entire campaign and just play/judge the game for its multiplayer component.

Hopefully AC7 has a legitimate and amazing campaign. Multiplayer would be great too, but it shouldn't take priority. Hopefully if it does have multiplayer, it won't be as fucked as the one in this twisted game.
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>>123038583
First time seeing Excalibur was great. First time PLAYING Excalibur was amazing. It's a great mission and they did a good job with it, although it could've used a cooler ending.

It's not fun when you're playing with people who have absolutely no idea what's going on though. Most times I've played it, we've barely gotten past the first phase because people aren't attacking the jammers or the enemies marked with a giant red TGT.
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>>123040158
Or we get those people who have never played zero and don't understand they have to dodge the giant red line on their radar to not die.
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>>123041024
You'd think they have learnt that from Stonehenge
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why do i even play this fucking game anymore
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>>123040158
What's your MR? I play at 2100 MR and 4 players can S-rank the EX I with 1 minute to spare.

Hitting the power plants and targeting towers with as much ordinance as possible per pass seemed to be pretty important in saving time for the rest. But I can see how inexperienced players assume that 2 missiles will do the job and end up wasting time circling around over and over again.
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>>123037871
I have mixed feelings about the Clancy games to be honest.

For starters, Clancy had basically nothing to do with any of the games besides them being made in his name, and they weren't very forthright about that.

Secondly, you can say what you want about Clancy's characters and political themes but above all else he was a master at achieving authenticity. Everything about his stories, from the technology to the organizations to the overall culture were written for the sake of maximum realism. Clancy lived, breathed, and shit authenticity in his stories, even to the point of sacrificing basic entertainment. This is a guy who will go on for pages about the operational mechanics of submarine sonars during stormy weather just to explain why his characters are doing what they are doing.

I never bothered to play Rainbow 6 but I did play HAWX, a few of the Ghost Recons, EndWar and a little bit of Splinter Cell and they’re basically the farthest you can get from that kind of ideal. They’re just generic games where you mow through waves of enemies as these bland good guys fighting for simplistic reasons, if any are even given at all. I guess I wouldn’t care if they were just games, but when you attach the name of the guy who basically invented the modern military techno-thriller then that should mean something, damn it.
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>>123041243
The early Rainbow Six games, up to about RS3, were all very realistic. Like, one bullet can kill you realistic. You really have to be careful and plan your actions.
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>>123041230
1600. I'm obviously no ace and I'm not significantly outperforming anyone, but I know what needs to be done at least. To be fair though, I don't expect everyone to know what to do since it's still a new raid. It just sucks when you bank 2 or 3 stocked on it after your teammates proved they're good by S ranking the previous maps, but then you C rank Excalibur.

One of the bigger problems I've noticed is people not spreading out in the beginning to take down the jammers quickly. Everyone just bunches up and 3 or 4 planes get instakilled with the laser.
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>>123041550
>The early Rainbow Six games, up to about RS3, were all very realistic.

Interesting. Have they aged well? Might try and play them if they're good.
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>>123041731
If you can get past the 90's-early 00's FPS problems of shit graphics and very barren environments, then yeah. They're sitll really good
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>>123041243
If you were shooting people in Splinter Cell, you were playing it wrong. The recent games don't count. I know that the recent ones have deviated from the stealth formula that made the early ones so damn amazing. Which Splinter Cell did you play? If it wasn't Chaos Theory, then I recommend you play Chaos Theory.
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Are Infinity QAAMs ever worth using? They hit less hard than HPAA, are slower than HVAA, less range than LAAM, longer reload than HCAA and worse homing than all of them. Hell, they manage to miss helicopters
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>>123041936
I'll look into getting ahold of them.

>>123041982
I only played a bit of Blacklist. Wasn't a big fan, didn't even bother to finish it.
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>make a <1500 cost avalon challenge room
>some dipshit joins and flies an XFA-27
>has his mic on the whole match blaring feedback
>mfw

What the fuck is wrong with these people?
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>>123042313
>Blacklist

That's like the equivalent of playing AH and assuming the rest of the series was the exact same.

Seriously at least try Chaos Theory, it does the stealth and realism much better
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So is Ace Combat Infinity the pay to win kind of F2P, or the pay to look cooler kind?
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>>123042424
F2P lowers the barrier of entry, bringing the worst of the worst to the table. I had a guy yesterday who was spamming << Hey! >> on the radio the entire match.
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>>123042313
Oh yeah, that's the problem. Blacklist is shit. I 100% recommend that you play Chaos Theory. The PC version of it looks really good graphics-wise, as a nice little bonus.
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>>123042283
I think you answered your own question.
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>>123042565
Pay to play more than 30 minutes every 12 hours

You can't buy advantages but you it's an MMO tier grind so you have to buy fuel if you want to get the best stuff in less than a year
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>>123042565
A little bit of booth. It can be tough trying to resist your inner goy though. The game really brings it out like a snake charmer.
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>>123042424
It's amazing how stupid people can be. Not just how stupid, but how often people are that stupid. I'd like to think it's just because the nature of the internet and digital communication encourages people to act dumb by removing immediate consequences but it's hard to have faith in that.
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>>123041612
Yeeeep, you're in a rough spot that's largely out of your control sadly. People tend to wise up at higher MR but I still occasionally get overzealous players who blow the last TGT while there are still extra targets remaining.

Keep climbing MR. It'll at least improve the chances of success, if nothing else.
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>>123033539
Because "Press X to let the plane fly itself instead of me flying the plane"
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>>123042615
I was hoping I missed something and generally complaining since I want to fly the Silent Eagle but its first SPW is QAAM
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>>123043290
It does decent damage. Has a reload speed a bit over standards. If you put enough parts to do just enough to kill standard reds, they're actually pretty good.
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>>123042964
In my case, I never have to worry about looking for the "Delay the final attack" message because we never get to that point unless a clubber happens to be in the room. Happened a few times on Moby Dick fortunately, and it's the only time that I'm actually thankful to see clubbers.

I'm definitely looking forward to climbing the ladder, but it's a slow process and I still have a lot of room for improvement myself.
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>>123043290
QAAM is okay as an extra pair of standard missiles, but HPAA is usually preferred when available since that extra damage is going to remain relevant in hard maps.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymafS-huK-g
Does anyone know what the source of 1:25-3:20ish is?

I'm assuming it's an AC track since most of the components of this are.
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Fucking christ, lv.16 cost for Rena X-49 is apparently 40 million credits according to gwiki page- a 13 million credit difference from Lv.15 cost.
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>>123043290
You'll be fine in that case. Silent Eagle is 725 cst, right? It should do at least the same damage as the MiG 1.44 QAAMs, which at level 1 can one-shot MiG-29s, and at level 5 one-shot STDs.
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>>122835117
He survived with minor injuries.
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It's the AC6 main theme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY4XpLg1LR8
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>>123044716
whoops
>>123044109
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>>123044448
MiG 1.44 is lower tier than SE and can't 1shot MTDs with Lv.5 QAAM.
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>>122877597
>That's what they did to try to SAVE the series
That doesn't qualify as saving. I'll spare you the abortion metaphors and get to the point:

Sales on 6 were disappointing, they weren't shitty enough to warrant AH. They should have seen that cutting production values (i.e. aggressively reusing assets like they're doing now anyway) could have paid off. I mean a lot of stuff in 5/0 is just reused from prior games with minor modification, the same principle could have applied to 6.
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>>123044858
Whoops. I forgot about the specific numbers. Yeah, it just barely can't one-shot them. However, the SP MiG 1.44 is 725 cst and can do it, so the SE can do it, too.
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>>123045202
Zero was the start of the decline. The sales numbers for Zero were a sharp drop from 5, and 6 was even worse than that.

They realized nobody was buying AC anymore. They felt like they had to adapt and change. Problem is, they changed TOO MUCH and made a game that appealed to neither old fans or new ones.

Despite this, it still sold more than both Zero and 6. Did being multiplatform help? Probably, but it doesn't really matter.
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>>123045774
It's not like they really marketed zero or 6. AH at least showed up on TV a few times.

Why they didn't just take the route of making AC7 while shilling it as COD with jets, I have to wonder. I mean AC isn't exactly challenging to play, stick in an optional retard mode to baby people who fell for the marketing and even they should be able to manage.
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WHOA SHIT ARE THE NEW IDOL EMBLEMS OUT?
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>>123046170
>>123045774
I had no idea that the series even existed until I accidentally stumbled upon ACI. I was looking up some images of Area 88 planes for reference and found some links to the Ace Combat wiki. I still didn't realize it was even a game at that point, I just assumed it was some weird Mugen-type shit mostly put together by fans and more like a flight simulator if anything.

Then I dug deeper and found out that this is the game that I've been wanting my whole life. I'm an avid fan of planes and if I never heard of this series til recently, think of how many others they must have missed. They simply don't market this at all.

Even if you're not crazy about planes, the games are incredible. Apart from how awful the f2p shit is, I can't imagine anyone not enjoying the game play itself.
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>>123046683
I mean it is why there's a lively regular general thread for this game.
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>>123047054
>Lively

I wouldn't go that far, we are usually one of the oldest threads on the board
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>>123045774
>6 was even worse than that.
well for good reason, a large number of the player base were japanese and even having idolmaster on the machine didn't help AC6 or the 360's sales enough, and then they followed it up with AH which was too different from the rest of the series, so I'd argue that despite the waning sales you see in zero they shot themselves in the foot with the franchise with 6 and AH

Can't really blame lack of interest if you abandon an entire player base and then try to recover by doing something silly just to be different.
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>>123047898
Ace combat 6 sold better then idolm@ster in japan.

83,045 to 63,559

Compared to other games on the console AC6 did Well but the 360 was a dead console in japan outside of some major titles (mainly because they are competing against Sony and Nintendo, 2 home grown consoles) I doubt if a new ace combat game comes out it'll be on a microsoft console what with Sony grabbing as many exclusives as they can.
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>>123046683
Man, really? I'm glad you found AC but it's depressing to think there's still people out there who want something like AC but don't know it's out there. We need all hands on deck, damn it.
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>>123042424
>>has his mic on the whole match blaring feedback

Start, Δ, Start
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>>123048782
word of mouth isn't enough, we know now for sure that repetition never really bothered anyone if the CoD series is anything to go by, they just need to really ramp up the marketing.
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>>123027525
Because Bamco would rather make thousands per month from each whale, than $30 once from the entire fanbase.
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>tfw mvp in a bomber
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any way we can badger sony/bamco to get the ps2 era ace combat series emulated to the PS4 now that the ps2 to ps4 emulation has been announced?
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>>123051337
Out of curiosity, was it a Razor? I'm still not sold on whether that speed will let people keep up.
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>>123052446
Oh you can keep up, especially now that it can go to level 20 and hit S+ speed
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Just got me a Nagase.
Kinda want to use it, but its SPWs don't really offer anything I don't already have (trusty Jolly Roger for 6AAM, Hibiki for LASM). If only it had GPB or something.
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>>123052048
Well if it can run PS2 disks then I'm set.
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>>123052446
Yeah it was. Ended up scoring 50k
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>>123053168
but remember how PS2 games were region locked? in the off chance that they'll let old discs play on the PS4 would it still be region locked?
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>>123053782
Well I've got a NA PS4 and NA copies of the Ace Combat games so I really don't care.

Might suck for Europe if there's region lock on PS2 emulation, I don't actually know because I didn't pay attention to what didn't release in Europe, not being in Europe myself.

tl;dr I'm afraid I don't care.
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>>123053026
>Over 100 million to hit S speed

Uh, I'd better stick to trial position, thanks.
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>>123054038
It really does seem like Europeans are the only ones who complain about the old games being "hard to find" or "expensive". They're cheap and readily available in the US.
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So you are chilling in NTDM and suddeny http://asm.aceinf.glasscore.net/#014x0k000h05030c0y2h2q2k3v02 slaps your Carrier's ass.
What to do?
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>>123055753
[ ] ECM
[X] Oh fuck I brought my LASM Growler uh fire missiles and wonder why the fighters are always blind.
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>>123055864
S++ speed and a metric fuckton of armour still work.
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>>123056040
Oh I know
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>>123055753
>mfw 2x MGPB a FOB

I need to make this my new project.
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>>123056286
Blast radius also scales, meaning that level 20 MGPB have FAEB-tier radius.
FAEBs with the range+ parts.
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>>123055753
>dat MGPB
Sweet jesus.
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>>122999026
Fliplands
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>>123056353
>level 20 MGPB have FAEB-tier radius. FAEBs with the range+ parts.
>mfw
Welp I know what I'm definitely getting.
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>>123055753
Well it's a damn good thing I set my room to 1500 cst or less then.
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>>123055753
>tfw chirosan is actually going to have this the next time NTDM rolls around

I don't think I have enough HPAAs
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>>123056353
Does it really? I'd like to see that.
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>>123057815
SAAMs get a damage multiplier against large aircraft. So give those a try.
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>>123057958
Some time ago an anon posted an image of a level 15 Razor, I'm currently searching for it
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>>123056353
Jesus christ
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>>123062746
A reminder that reload also gets better with each level. So at 15+ a bomber should have an MGPB reload of about 1 second. That and there's now range and power parts for MGPBs available too.
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>>123063361
but the parts don't work for MGPB. they're blacked out. you should play bombers before you talk like you know anything.
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>>123065994
That's odd since the special weapon parts for bombs improve MGPBs. And those are supposed to be for special weapons only. Have you tried using the part anon. Or are you talking like you know anything before using it?
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>>123066501
That sounds like a bait. Somebody said the same thing last time.
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>MVPed with a B-2 in Hunting Down Red Excalibur
>Twice

I guess I have found a new life for my Spirit.
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>>122999026
Brazil. A bit surprised to see so many portugas around. If the world is really as small as people say, they're probably the guys from /sgg/ too

>>123018132
Things like BVR combat would be boring. I can only think of something like Turn and Burn from SNES. Limited ammo, use of chaff/flares, focus on taking off and landing but dealing with an ammount of enemies that would be impossible for a single craft IRL.

Another choice would be to have the player be part of a squadron and deal with 2 or 3 aircraft per mission, in very difficult conditions. Shooting the bogeys down quickly would allow for more kills (go help your wingmen) and thus better scores.
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>>123018132
>Having 6 or 8 missiles on your jet, having to rearm when your run out, all that jazz
I would assume you'd want a fuel limit as well, which would add a certain level of depth in gameplay as well as frustration

Fuel restriction would mean you have to control your speed, calculate the optimum flight path, whether or not to engage/chase non essential bogeys and how long you'll stay in the AO before you refuel/restock, which frankly sounds like fun to me.
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People are just getting confused because there's a bug(?) that won't let you equip bomb parts if you have a missile-based SPW. So if you're using MAGM all the bomb parts are greyed out, which is where the rumor of parts not affecting MGPB came from
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>Fuel restriction would mean you have to control your speed, calculate the optimum flight path, whether or not to engage/chase non essential bogeys and how long you'll stay in the AO before you refuel/restock, which frankly sounds like fun to me.

As a matter of fact, the old Air Combat/Ace Combat 2 HAD a fuel system. But it just worked like a timer, so it's essentially the same as the newer games.

Once again, Turn and Burn has something like it. Fuel got depleted, activating afterburners made it burn faster and you had to go back to the carrier. This would be neat in Ace Combat, like landing during missions - and not a return line, but let's say, the carrier and the AWACs are actually in the map and you can see them.
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Boland stronk

Also, any Infinity streams today?
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Think it's time for a new thread.
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