/tf2g/ _ Team Fortress 2 General

First for best SFM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1dJvrqN_5Q

Second for Humanposting

I'm not Saturn, I'm a who. I'm not even good at the game.

>>122727863
would FUCK fem solly tho

really hard

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>>122728910
#justiceforgasol
http://tf2r.com/khhkibp.html

Also got a key raffle coming in Saturday once they're off trade cd. (I originally planned to raffle those).

>>122729008
edgy

how now brown cow

https://backpack tf/classifieds/?steamid=76561197978508626

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first for best mercenary

>>122729614
why is shuckle still alive? Kill yourself iRL please

>>122729457
>jealous of a trash scout main with a huge ego

lmao you're a retard

im trash

xth for cute sfms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqNL6W-v89Y

gasol is trash

>>122730035
mge me RIGHT NOW

>>122730024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX4NQICyh4s

>>122730024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WLXY0rp2B4

>>122730503
>Fem scout
I hate how people keep putting this faggotry in everything.

>>122730024
this doesn't make sense

at the end he was disguised as blu heavy and standing right next to a level three sentry, but the sentry was not shooting at him

1/5

>>122730854
He's the closest thing to a feminine twink for the really desperate to genderswap.

>low hours
>not good enough for hl/6s
>but people in pub servers seem to think tf2 is deathmatch and ignore the objective and i'm tired of it
what do? other than "git gud" because i'm working on that. like what can i do in the meantime?

>>122731529
mge me

mge me in bed
>.<

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Can i get some GOOD non autistic, Non female Tf2 Cosplay?

>>122731529
Play lobbies seriously. You're gonna suck in the beginning, but that's to be expected and you shouldn't let that bother you. If you're still not confident enough just keep playing pubs and ignore the objective and work on your DM. It's honestly not worth the effort exerted in pubs to try and carry if you're not more than capable of doing so.

Honestly, just don't burn yourself out.

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>>122731529
>I want to git gud
Play the game
>Now I'm okay at the game
Play lobbies
>Now I'm good at lobbies
Join the PDF if you're playing 6v6, otherwise look for a team
>Now I played on the PDF, but I want to play for real now
Find a team on the UGC forums.

>>122731851
>6v6

please tell me no one actually plays this shit mode

>>122732086
why do you think like this

>>122732086
ebin

>>122732116
>>122732224
>Pyro is allowed
>Sniper is allowed
>Engie is alowed


>Which ever demo can m1 m2 quicker wins
>which ever scout uses the faster aimbot wins
>which even Female medic main is retarded wins
>Soldiers just shooting the ground

Just play HL you fucking autists

>>122732379
pyro, sniper and engineer are all allowed in 6s

yes the team with the more skilled players generally wins that's the point

>>122730854
the only thing i hate about femscout is the model with the skirt because that's stupidly impractical, even by tf2 standards
it's flammable, can get caught on stuff, can get grabbed by an enemy, and chafing would be horrible. also running in a skirt that long and heavy would be difficult.
she should wear pants like everyone else
the only genderbent merc who i can realistically see wearing a skirt would be spy and that's because his outfit is already impractical but he's not expected to be in the middle of a firefight
speaking of character design issues i hate medic's coat too. also another fire hazard
sage for autistic rant

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http://strawpoll.me/6043636

http://strawpoll.me/6043636

http://strawpoll.me/6043636

if tf2 got launched a few years later, do you think comp would be 5v5 like mobas and cs?

playing comp
>wew lad

>>122732379
Highlander is how this game was meant to be played.
6's just seems like a game mode made for people who could deal with shit, but refuse to.

>>122730024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdtFpQv8AkQ

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>>122731658
i've always wanted to cosplay but it's pretty expensive and i don't resemble any tf2 character anyway

>"Dramatic" TF2 SFM movies
Is there anything more autistic? That Broken Promises short made me fucking gag.

>>122732935
>an asian Twink transgender boy looks nothing like an Australian Man

Who would have thunk

this game is going to make me kill myself one day

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http://tf2r.com/k5ohywm.html

http://bazaar.tf/trade/1106681
http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/520609

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http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/234042

>>122731658
the con I went to last had a very buff man as saxton hale
I don't have a picture but I could probably get one tomorrow from a friend

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>>122733294
no need I found it

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>>122732609
Seriously though 6's are played because they are much easier to get started and there's a much higher reliance on DM skill. I do prefer highlander though.

>>122733783
what's the white one supposed to be

>>122733783
>obese american
>buff

ha

>>122733783
>that
>buff

Literally that is how "buff" I am. And I am not buff.

10/10 HHH cosplay though.

>>122733783
that HHH could be so much better if they made the costume as good as the props
but maybe tomorrow I'll post it if I get the pictures from the photoshoot back I'm in it

>>122733783
soldier mains everyone

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>>122733783

>>122734042
...Shit that one's actually kind of good.

>>122734042
Nice

also the horseman isnt bad in >>122733783

What happen to gasol

fuck off gasol

thanks for the justice for gasol posts. It helps sooth the suffering.

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>pyro mains

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>>122734309
>>122734354
>>122734425

>>122734309
faced a silver team whos 8 rostered players had a combined total of 35 seasons of plat and a few dozen gold seasons.

>>122734509
thanks veddit

payload is fucking cancer
>sentries in same spot every time
>snipers stand in same spot every time
>spies camp same spots every time
>sticky spam on cart every time
shit is boring as fuck it plays out the same way every single fucking time I fucking hate payload

>>122734690
we NEED new maps in HL

i vote for

cp_gorge_pro

>HL

lol

do people actually think hl is better than 6's

>>122734926
I think it's more fun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzuJj85C3lw
cute

>>122734926
I prefer playing the game closest to how it was meant to play, yes.

anyone else here really hungry annd haves a headache

>>122735124
I didn't realize you were a developer

someone rub my tummy before I go to sleep :) it's almost 1 am and I have to be up in 5 hours!

>>122735305
*fucks you raw*
;)

>>122734842
>>122734926
>I cant kill a spy, sniper, sentry, heavy or pyro the post

lmfao how can you be so bad?

if youre so Good, HL shouldnt be a bad thing :^))))))))

>>122735305
are you me?

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>X Division 4v4 Participation Badge

>>122734926
Some people like seeing how all 9 classes have rolls in competitive without banning half the items.

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>>122735124
>how it was meant to play
>7 people watching a demo+medic combo destroy everything
>how it was meant to play

>>122735305
*punches you in the stomach*

>>122735563
>human

LITERALLY everything you just said went to the garbage

Kill yourself IRL if i had a way to finland id do it myself

my fiancee won a raffle

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>6v6
Pacing orientation, designed for DM-heavy games based around mobility. Restrictions are required in order to maintain this pacing. Reminiscent of older arena shooters like Quake.
>HL
Basically organized pub TF2 with only the truly OP shit removed. The closest thing to "true" TF2 due to the lack of restrictions allowing for a wide variety of viable playstyles.
>4s
ahahaha laughin my ass out

Debate me.

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>>122733907
no idea
but that is the most pathetic valve cosplay group i've seen
>>122731658
the cosplayer is a girl
but she's not cosplaying a female character and the props look decently made

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>>122736067
here's more of her

>>122736195
>her
boner lost

I wish sniper was removed from the game or banned in valve servers because it would remove BR niggers who can't even hit a bodyshot and fucking shitheads who have 8000 hours played and come into a game and singlehandedly win. There is no fucking counter for sniper I fucking hate it. When you can run around a corner and immediately scope in and headshot someone get the fuck out of valve pubs and let the shitters play. Pisses me the fuck off

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>>122736303
she's passing fairly convincingly though

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4, 6, or 8 gets a draw

>>122736356
draw sniper with an owl

>>122736340
i NEED dick though

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>>122736356

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>>122736356
Heavy with gold Polar Pullover, Professor Speks, and a medal of your choice.

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>>122736443
>what is packing and strap ons
most male tf2 cosplays (or hell even tf2 cosplay in general) i've seen are pretty bad, but there's that one guy whose name i can't remember that really actually looks like sniper and did a decent cosplay of him. i think it's because cosplay is seen as a girly hobby therefore there's just more girls doing it

>>122736661
i dont think you understand

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>>122736691
here's the guy i was talking about now stop whining shuckle

>>122736816
you got the one where he's wering nothing but a speedo with the australian flag?

>>122736867
>australian flag
reeeeee

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>>122736867
yes
thanks to a valve thread /cgl/ had a while ago
too bad sniper's not really australian

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>>122737016
didn't know there was more to this set, thank you

>shuckle: "i'm a good egg"
>shuckle: "i NEED dick"

???

>>122737149
shuckle is a good egg

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stay safe tf2g

>>122737149
shuckle has a fertile egg

>>122737149
my last post was the pic of the huntsman sniper cosplay >>122732935

>>122736816
that is a damn nice cosplay, i'm always impressed by people who make props that are super close to the game models

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>>122736436
>>122736498
Next g o o d request gets a draw

>go to tf2pug.tf

Red: corsa as scout, showstopper- as pocket, alec as scout, seymour as roamer, Block as demo, marmadukeGRYLLS as medic,
Blue: b4nny as pocket, cyzer as scout, Nursey as medic, arekk as scout, Muma as demo, phorofor as roamer,

Jeez where do I go to pug late at night then? I'm not gonna get in against these guys.

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>>122737767
Draw the PDF avenging Gasol

>>122737767
draw the PDF winning the gold
but realizing there's only participation medals this time around

>>122737767
draw sniper making a cup of coffee

>>122738029
The PDF almost got first in their HL season but just decided not to show up for playoffs and got 5th

>>122737767
draw the PDF getting cucked by the 2 who carried them last game

>>122737878
35 seasons of platinum experience on a silver team. They some how justified it. I feel used. I feel weak. I feel. I. .

>>122737839
tf2center.com`

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>>122737878
>>122738029
>>122738065
>>122738224

>>122738443
saturn, 26,human and assorted whos

>>122738443
http://www.ugcleague.com/team_page.cfm?clan_id=18379

Saturn/Danny(who?) carried

>>122738583
Ohhh for fuck sake it stands for pottis defense force
jesus christ that shit has stumped me for the last 6 months

>>122737112
>filename
you're not shuckle...
who are you?

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>>122738676
No, were adobe's Portable Document Format, you fucking dump

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>>122738891
tfw I told that leech victor kid the pdf was a .pdf file in the pastebin of all the available tf2gs and their ids because he wanted the password to a raffle lmao

>>122739085
>He was the first step in geelgate
I hope he knows he's the reason Geel is 8k underwater

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>>122739085
If you actually did
you're a pretty fucking cool dude

>>122739205
>neither geel nor the majority of the leeches from gunmettle browse tf2g anymore
I'm going to bed now and I'm going to sleep well knowing this

when was the froyo vs ascent streamed, i want to check the vod

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>>122739257
I did
the password was moody's id and I didn't know it by heart so I came up with that on the spot
Laughed for days

>>122739310
Geel basically only came here to leech and shill his website. Now that everyone hates him and nobody has to deliver on TF2R (not to mention *even the tf2r mods* hate him), of course he doesn't come here.

Still though, you did good lad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SiylvmFI_8

for just $9 a month you can get gasol out of UGC and into ESEA.

#pray4gasol

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how do you justify this

>>122739638
It's either proof HL is a tremendous joke or UGC is a joke

>>122739757
he plays silver 6s I forgot to say.

>>122739792
Hence the post. Either HL is such a joke plat is the same level as 6v6 Silver, or UGC is a joke for allowing that bullshit.

i hate human does anyone else hate human

>>122739995
;x

LFT lowest open hmu

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Valve came up with a good balance for their matchmaking. Hope they stick with it instead of using community made ones.

6v6 with HL class restrictions and payload + CtF sounds fun as hell.

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>>122739972
>UGC is a joke

You have no idea, anon.

Don't forget there are constantly silver/gold teams literally carried by invite-level players.

>>122740232
Source on that? Full-time Sniper seems like the WORST possible thing to encourage for randoms (we're talking about Valve pubbers here, not just lobbiers) and full-time Heavy is just 6v6 on easy mode.

>>122740232
>>122740393
Adding to this, Sniper being run full-time will basically turn MM into aimbot claims: the movie.

>>122740232
>6v6's with HL class restrictions

Just imagining this is real for a moment, what would the standard team loadouts be?

I could see Heavy replacing pocket soldier since I doubt GRU or Disciplinary Action will be banned, but who will replace second scout?

I could see Engineer w/ gunslinger being a really good class here.

>>122740527
Sniper for serious teams. He is just short of viable full-time as it is (poor mobility), so it's no contest.

http://tf2r.com/k96nnf9.html

>>122740393
b4nny got to talk to Valve and said they were interested in using the 6's format because it was easier to set up, but they wanted to encourage people to use all the classes in the game. They're also aware that Spy and Engineer are the weakest classes in competitive and will be looking at 'class selection rates' for balancing.

>>122740527
Sniper and Medic would be the best picks obviously. You can't go wrong with Soldier and Demoman. The last two slots would be filled with either Scout, Pyro, Heavy or Engineer dependent on the map or game mode.

RIP Spy, he'll only be seen at beginner level.

>>122740527
I was thinking Sniper might get in, Pyro and Spy definitely are staying in the kekshed though.
>>122740803
Well I thought it was pretty clear from 6's and 4's that Medic, Demo, Soldier, and Scout are getting in no matter what.

Engineers big weakness in 6's is that his best tools are banned (gunslinger, widowmaker) and this means he has to settle on big sentries which are total shit for how 6s are played.

Mini's will be good at dealing with the scout and bombing soldier which will be pretty big risks in 6s, but I could definitely see sniper being used more than him as well.

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Holy fuck keys are already at 17.66, this bubble's just getting started

>>122741042
Pyro isn't completely worthless. There are some maps where he is better than Heavy.

Looking at you Gullywash and Badlands.

As for Engineer I'm almost certain he will get used on payload maps. At least from a defense point-of-view to stop Scout flanks.

>>122741134
>still caring about the economy

>>122741650
There's still a lot of money to be made from it so why not?

>>122741708
on who's side though

seems valve is trying to move as much money from richfags pockets as possible.

>>122741950
I don't buy shit from the store anyway

Do you guys play arena?

I stopped playing because same server there is an aimbotter and all other servers have 2 players.

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>play mvm
>700 tour tells me to change my upgrades on heavy to other shit
>fine
>heading back to upgrade station
>his gurl gaymur friend chimes in
>'heavy go change your upgrades or get kicked'
>go afk
>listen to 2 minutes of pure anger because i cant be kicked yet

>>122748556
not really. it's mostly one team steamrolling the other to infinity and beyond and i fucking hate that you sometimes have to sit through rounds just because. i suppose arena would be fun if there was an automatic team scrambler of some sorts. they should just use gScramble because it's a damn shame arena sucks so hard.

>>122749649
If you're going to spend $1400 to play Mann up mode why even bother at that point and why not just buy all the australium weapons instead of trying to find them

>>122750474
700 tours at 4 dollars a tour isnt 1400 dollars

>>122749649
Why couldn't you be kicked? Is there a cooldown or something?

>>122751060
2 mins after joining you cant be kicked

>>122749649
Most of the 200+ tour people I encounter while playing mvm are nice enough people, but have little patience for stupidity and ignorance. Which unfortunately is rampant throughout Mann Up mode.

Also from your post it seems like the girl was the bitch and not the other bloke.

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Goddammit Heavy why do you have so many loadouts that work, you make me want to start playing you.

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whats up boys

>>122751336
if someone with hundreds of tours asks me to change some upgrade i'll do it, not when some 1 tour clown starts acting like top shit telling people what to do

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http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/183549

come on guys im on pdf too

>>122751613
do you have a tf2g crush

>>122752054
You did good lad

>>122751626
Oh well yeah, no shit.

>>122752054
your a fag though

>>122751613
hey drug addicted loser

>loadout screen text disappearing still not fixed

this is one of those things valve isn't ever gonna touch because they don't really break the game is it

I'm gonna get in the shower what should I listen to? tf2 music?

How do some of you people come up with the dumbass steam names you use

>>122754261
i like dicks and i wanted my steam name to reflect that without explicitly saying i like dicks

>>122754364
Don't worry, we can tell

>>122754412
:3c

>>122754121
jazz, chill trap, glitch hop, rhcp, mongolian throat singing

>>122754364
>>122754412
>>122754564
username?

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>weeb using binds in mvm
>call him shit
>everyone takes his side for some reason
>kicked

>>122756180
>for some reason

"i didnt do anything i just randomly started talking shit xD"

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>>122756207

>Dalokohs bar is now eaten in 1/3rd the time the Sandvich is

Have I just made the Dalokohs bar a good sidegrade to the Sandvich?

>>122752757
stfu moran

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It's me, the mega meme man

Help post me me s with me (myself)

Reminder that 6s came from experimentation with TF2's base gameplay options and developed into a solid, standalone mode after a few initial seasons of player-overseen failures and successes while HL is a concept rooted entirely in selfish, narrow-minded flavor.

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>Join game
>6 demos, 2 heavies, no medics
Well seems like a good game to be medic in
>join game
>half the team is now pyros and spys

I always have around 70-110 ping

I dont understand what net settings should I use...

>>122757751
settings arent going to help your shit connection you sperg

>>122757535
>not just healing everyone that needs it while contributing with a positive kdr because you're in a pub after all

Any ideas for really subtle cosmetic loadouts where without closer inspection it looks like you aren't wearing anything?

>>122757535
A pocket Pyro is brutal; especially the W+M1's. The Degreaser's get easily distracted and muck about.

>>122758201
Man in Slacks

>>122758201
Couvre Corner
Surgeon's Side satchel
Mutton Man

how to get full colour decals?

>>122758868
Take a bucket of paint and throw it on your monitor

>>122758998
didn't work and now i can't see anything.

Is there any way at all?

>>122758201
Forget what it's called; but the cigar the Soldier has.

>>122758868
I believe that it only works for the Objector and the Flair.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=222268519

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>>122758201

tf2r.com/zj65mk3.html

>>122759182
Thanks mate, really appreciate it.

tf2r.com/ga8h73x.html

>>122759370
>Error 404, page was not found. If the website linked to this page, there is something wrong. Please contact the website administrator and solve this issues once and for all.

>>122758490
Couvre Corner could be the dumbest cosmetic ever.
It's so insignificant they had to magnify it on the store so people would see what it was.

>>122759726
Dumbest cosmetic is the Aparition's Aspect. Because it's not a Halloween item.

>corn

IM GOING TO KISS A CUTE TF2G!!!

I liked the saxxy entry where the spy disguised as a sentry

>>122761441
>>>/zed/

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*wakes up*

>>122762307
zed has posted pictures of himself

if you think he is cute you have low standards

>>122762336
we woke up at the same time

>>122762336
>>122762389
Kill yourselves attention whores

>>122762389
are you me

>>122762436
why
:r

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>>122762471
because you ae scum of the earth

>>122762471
i am nothing

>>122762583
me too

>>122762624
i thought you were you

big fan of zed here t b h

t. shoebox

im a big fan of my tf2gfu

>>122756365
i think it would be better if

>Shokolad bar can now be eaten while moving, at a "stunned" rate

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>when you get 9 random drops for all different classes and you have to use jew.tf

I'm a big fan of having mace spray on my junk

>>122759091
soldier's stash?
soldier's stogie?
both are subtle and fit into the game's aesthetics

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Ohayou, /tf2g/! Let's all do our best today! Remember to play with a group of friends when matchmaking comes out to avoid being matched with people of random skill, and have a wonderful day!

>>122763643
i don't have any friends that would invite me to play

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>>122763643
>play medic
>free MM wins

>>122763724
>>122763764
It's ok! There's plenty of time left to find a group of people to play with!

>>122763772
Thank you for your service!

someone carry me through my first tour

I want to fuck the Black Box

>>122764926
give me a ticket and i will

Nerf the Minigun already

>>122765328
black box is a crutch for bad soldiers
:^)

>>122765973
It's literally perfect

>>122765883
>nerfing the worst class
Are you a pyro main by any chance? Because that's the only class that would complain about a minigun.

Why did people hate the Baby Faces Blaster so much? Is a fast grounded Scout really more annoying than a Scout that double jumps all over your candy ass with two extra shots?

>>122766516
blah blah hitreg

>>122766516
It used to be horribly overpowered. If you could run that fast and the other guy's ping wasn't perfect, you couldn't hit him. It's not nearly as bad now .

>>122766458
Worst class is Spy
Heavy ends games

>>122766636
It's actually one of the worst weapons in the game now. Need to lower that speed breaker.
Still beats the Shortstop though

>>122766658
Heavy doesn't do anything well.
Spy has high pick potential, sappers, and the best escape bar Bonk!.

>>122766760
Spy relies on dumb luck and dumb opponents
Take that away and he's worthless

>>122766885
A good spy takes advantage of the point where an enemy isn't looking behind them. There's no luck about it, aside from, say , hoping a pyro doesn't unfortunately light you on fire.

>>122766992
Only a retard doesn't watch his back
If they get killed by a Spy, congratulations they had it coming
Spies are opportunistic bitches

>>122766760
>spy is the best at killing people who are alone and getting focused
>he is also a little bit useful against engineers
>and he is the second best class at running away from a teamfight!

>>122767087
>you can look behind you the entire time during the entire game!

35 seasons of platinum and an invite player.

how is this allowed in silver 6s.

how do people defend this?

>>122767241
Why wouldn't you? Three dimensions

>>122767279
But it's just one player, anon. Surely your entire team can beat one good player?

>>122767279
>35 seasons of plat highlander
>same skill level as silver 6s

that's believable

>>122766992
No team wants to rely on one sneaky bugger pulling off some sneaky heist for cheap removal.
Every team wants more Soldiers and more Demos and more Heavies and more Medics and one Engi and that's it.

>>122767491
That's why class restrictions in comp fucking exist, retard.

>>122767581
Exactly. No room for Spies.

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>>122767730

no room for me

>>122767847
>Calls someone wrong
>Posts Bill Nye
My sides

>>122767885
Your posts makes even less sense than his.

>>122767408
plat HL has a lot more skill than plat 6s.
>>122767378
no

>>122768110
I'll let /sci/ fill it in for you

When will they make another wrench that builds an alternative Sentry?

>>122768310
Took them long enough to balance minis, so, never.

>>122768362
Nah man, tier 4 Super Sentries
Wrench swings half the speed and does 90% less damage and max metal capacity is halved

>>122768526
Ok, what do super sentries do?

this soldier joined the game and he was fucking invisible what the fuck is this shit he went like 33-5

>>122768887
bind [key] "record fix; stop; snd_restart; hud_reloadscheme; heartbeat"
yours is related to "record fix; stop" part but i'd suggest binding this whole script to a button you don't use

>>122768587
They kill fast
And bullets too slow

>>122763643
Matchmaking is never coming.

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So I just came back to playing tf2 like a week or so ago started playing and suddenly theres this dude with an unusual sniper rifle. Since when was there unusual weapons?

Guys i'm scared about playing lobbies. What if I do poorly and they yell and me?

>>122771110
Since July.

>>122771110
Previous big update; they're pretty common so don't worry about it.

>>122768310
>>122768526
Allegedly WETA wanted the eureka effect to make a laser sentry but valve couldn't make it work.

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>>122729614
was sniper designed for CS players?

>>122771975
Other way around

i was designed for my tf2gfu

What do you guys think about triple sunbeams effect?

Does it look horrible?

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>hear spy decloak
>turn around and start shooting him
>facestab

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hey xenosbid good lookin :)

This gane is dead

Pootis. Potts

>June 18, 2014 Patch
>All mini-guns now have damage and accuracy ramp up after they start firing. Full accuracy and damage is reached 1 second after firing.

Why? Why? WHY THE FUCK?

WHAT'S WITH ALL THESE RERARDED NONSENSE NERFS? WHAT THE FUCK IS EVEN THE POINT OF THIS NERF

can someone tell me who's responsible for these retard nerfs like this and soda-popper so i can FUCKING ASSASSINATE HIM

How do we fix Natasha?

>>122774928
the worst part is that if valve ever realize how stupid that nerf was they won't just admit their mistake and revert it, god forbid

no, they'll come up with an even stupider counter-buff instead

If I could have one wish it would be for anyone who still thinks lenny face is funny to be ripped apart then shit on while watching their mother be raped by a bear

>>122775450
I don't see why they even removed the 300 ammo in Gun Mettle.

>>122774878
you are dead

>>122774928
the black box nerf is the dumbest one ive seen from them
the sticky nerf was pretty aggravating for me back in the day since the only way i knew of playing demo was very aggresive but i guess its OK now since you can do that playstyle with the quickie launcher

>>122775548
There was one nerf they reverted almost instantly after release involving one stickybomb launcher

>>122775694
Nah mane the Black Box was buffed. It's even more infuriating to fight one on one now.

>>122775723
that one was an exception because it was spectacularly moronic even for valve

otherwise they never go back on balance changes and just keep making weapons more and more contrived

>>122771110
>September 30, 2010 Patch (Mann-Conomy Update)
[Undocumented] Added Unusual quality
you've been gone a long time lad
ps, use the official tf2 wiki for this kind of stuff

>>122775450
On hit slowdown on a minigun is an inherently retarded concept. Replace the slowdown with, I don't know, increased knockback.

>>122776821
>the game needs more knockback
Remove on hit effect, increase resistances by 10%

>>122776821
That would rape worlds. You thought Pyros and FaN Scouts and cliffs were a bad mix? Try it now with crazy range and rapid fire!

>>122776987
Knockback is actually a good mechanic as long as it's push and not push-and-hold like airblast. It fucks bad players but it's counterable by good players.

>>122775936
not buffed at all

in 99% of the situations its worse than before
they probably only nerfed it because lolpubs or le reddit complaints
used to be a decent replacement for rocket launcher at the cost of 1 rocket less capacity wich is a big downside by itself

if anyones confused about gasol - http://www.teamfortress.tv/29974/ugc-sandbagging-at-its-finest

>>122777859
>ttp://www.teamfortress.tv/29974/ugc-sandbagging-at-its-finest
UGC is a joke
why dont you americans get some community league going with a website thats actually easy to browse?

>>122777674
You used to get 15 from each target, now it's a maximum of 20 per attack.
It's not nearly as much against multiple targets, but it's actually stronger against individuals. So a sort-of nerf.

>>122777859
lol, everyone calling him out
>b-but they lost 3 times

>>122778116
>It's not nearly as much against multiple targets, but it's actually stronger against individuals.
Isn't it the other way around? I think the way its calculated now is 20% of the damage you do or something like that, rather than +15 HP for ANY damage

>>122777070
>You thought Pyros and FaN Scouts and cliffs were a bad mix?
No, because FaN is terrible and if a FaN scout cliffs me it was all my fault. The joke is still on the scout, because his ability to manfight is really hampered.
And cliff camping pyros can still be dealt with, like by indirect fire.

Admittedly a cliff-camping natascha heavy would probably be too good if it had both big knockback and damage resistance.

>>122778304
If you shot two people with one rocket, you got 30 health back. Shoot a crowd and it's a joke.
Now you can only get a maximum of 20 health back per rocket, which still isn't bad.

>>122778116
>but it's actually stronger against individuals
Only if you are close enough for him to shred through your little heal with rampup.

Getting back 45 or even 60 hp for lightly singing a group with splash at max falloff range was pretty silly all told and needed to be changed, but the 20 heal cap makes the clip size tradeoff very questionable.

>>122778304
Learn from Mr Meme
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9wTN8g9AO6I

>>122774008
>detect oblivious f2p spy
>try to shoot him
>warps away
>literally teleports right into my face
>stabs me, shoot him and watch him fly away
>while he's mid-air far away from he i get backstabbed from him

>>122780329
>Changed +15 health on hit to +20 health on hit per attack
>Changed how health on hit works for radius damage. Is now capped per attack and scales with total damage done relative to base damage.
>i.e. doing 45 damage nets +10 health on hit as base damage is 90. Hitting 3 enemies for 45 each for a total of 135 damage only returns +20 health.

hey guys div 1 demo/scout here from 2009 quit in 2010

average skill higher or lower?

>>122781164
compared to 2010, it's higher

>>122781164
Much higher. One of my teammates was a CEVO prem scout in 2009 and when he came back he was high open.

>>122781267
>>122781504
alright
just didn't seem like it when i watched some matches
dunno

>>122781648
Of course you're not going to see a lot of the refinements made in the past five years just watching some matches.

Generally, the game revolves around DM less. Some of the best MGE/ammomod players in the game are trash at sixes.

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Scattergun tiers:
>S+ tier
Shortstop with Crit-a-Cola
>S tier
Stock
>A tier
Soda Popper
Shortstop
>B tier
Force-a-Nature
>C tier
Back Scatter
Baby Face's Blaster

Debate me and justify your sentiments.

>SSS tier
scattergun with crit-a-cola

six shots is better than four

>SSSSSSSSSSSS tier
pistol

>>122783109
winger

>>122783109
>play engineer
>go deep and KILL
>play scout
>run out of pistol ammo
???

>>122783036
Shortstop is avtually much more broken with Crit-a-Cola due to the increased accuracy and per-pellet damage. This combination was the reason the two were banned in alternating seasons pre-CaC buffs.

>>122783214
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqKG9YuMN8M

>>122783361
The difference is the Shortstop can pull big numbers from a larger distance. I'm not going to argue that the CaC isn't a stupidly good secondary even with other guns, but with the Shortstop it's completely retarded.

>>122783109
:s

0 gets a draw

>>122784434
draw me

>>122784434
Draw the PDF brining justice for Gasol

>>122784434
aida

im streaming mario again

www twitch tv / commandertiger

>>122784434
Draw the PDF bringing justice for Gasol

>>122784434
draw human

>>122784650
this weeb so beta he told a nigga to draw another person

>an issue with your computer is blocking VAC system

what is this error?i just reformatted my pc and i keep getting this error in the middle of the game.i tried everything listed on the steam page

ok 4 gets a loadout draw

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"You Die, a Virgin."

>>122784802
hacker

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>>122784819
defualt engineer in the reference pose

>>122784758
there are enough pictures of me already

>>122784819
aida

>>122784819
draw videogames' engineer

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>>122784819

>>122784819
Scout on a motorcycle doing a backflip off of the top of a building while on fire

>>122784819
>>122784978
>>122785015
>>122785073
>>122785091
all in one picture

>>122784819
draw this post
>>122785139

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>>122784819

>>122782947
I would argue force a nature is worse than baby face and backscatter, because it's a huge pain to two shot someone compared to those and it has a year long reload.
With baby face you can at least build up some starting meter from a distance with pistol.

>>122784819
>>122785139

>>122784819
>>122785139

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>>122784650

>>122786431
why human avatarfag as purple hair cirno

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>>122784819

>>122786394
>>122786181
>>122785225
>>122785139
>>122785015
you people can't read
those arent loadouts fuck

>>122786540
you better rename your melee or else you're going to have a bad time

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>>122786431

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>>122784819