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Suddenly, Everyone Wants To Be A Powder Keg Edition

Needed More Strength To Wield >>122604225

>DLC Info (Out 24/11/2015)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbGdIdHOO3I
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/bloodborne-ps4/the-old-hunters-dlc/
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/10/bloodborne-the-old-hunters.html

>Planners
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
http://bloodborne.frontbuffer.com

>MP Range Calculator
https://mpql.net/tools/bloodborne/

>Screenshots
http://gematsu.com/gallery/bloodborne/
http://imgur.com/a/UsDJ2

>Guide Scans
http://justsomefaggot.imgur.com/

>Concept Art
http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_bloodborne_a.html

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every SAT 6pm EST, rules: http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Chalice Speedrun Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkznHPuGY4
http://imgur.com/a/YobZp

>CD finds & Weapon Variants
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1163029848
http://pastebin.com/V03vDSCq
http://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3184gy/chalice_dungeon_resources_faq/

>Where to go next in BB
http://pastebin.com/kr9TbvKS

>Wikis
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com
http://bloodborne.wikidot.com/
http://bloodborne.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodborne

>I need help in Chalice Dungeons!
1. Make sure you don't have an Oath rune equipped, your network is set to Worldwide, & your chalice is set to Open
2. Set a password with at least one number & one letter (the more the better)
3. Provide glyph if necessary
4. Due to 1.05, there is no longer a way to Dungeon skip via SRRC
5. More info regarding MP for CD's @ http://pastebin.com/R2ZSmner

>Wheel, Fight Club, and Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/dD7Cv5mx
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First for charlie sheen has HIV
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>>122660005
>final boss
>nightmare
No. Final boss in nightmare should be ayylmao.
Also, Moebius reference
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Will you embrace it, /bbg/ ?
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Was asking earlier but can anyone post that image of the doll holding the hunter when he/she becomes a great one with "you're a slug now" written at the bottom
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are we all forgetting about this area? Looks like some kind of jail.
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>>122678391
Squid i mean. Not slug
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>>122678496
The lighting and cobwebs made me think that was just some part of the Nightmare of Mensis that I forgot about
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>>122678496
Part of the research hall, calling it
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>>122678384
I want to embrace that ass.
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Wonder what's this guy's story. Is he wearing a beast skin to blend in with the beasts ?
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>>122678217
I'mma fear the shit outta that blood, f4m.

>>122678391
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Before we continue watch this video to regain your sanity.

youtube.com/watch?v=DlgRsmKjOgs

Okay you may continue the hunt.
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>>122678957
If so hes doing a really fucking bad job
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>>122678957
I hope we can get his gear.
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>>122678957
Reminder that he wears it on top of League garb.
I think he is going to be a leader of pvp/beast covenant.
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>>122679065
Not the one i was after but worth a save, thanks bruh
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>>122679074
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>>122678957
Finally, a kosplay I can get behind.

>>122679214
I didn't know what you were talking about.
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I wonder what the Hunter will look lie when he/she 's a grown up great one. Id like to think theyd look abit more interesting than how they do now
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I want TORN HUMAN SKIN armour for maximum madness
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>Have a STR low-level char
>Have a Skill/ARC/10 BLT Char
>no STR/ARC
>no STR/BLT
Fugg, my only option is level up the STR or Go full BL150 scurb mode on the main Char
What do? I ain't going through chalice farming all over again either.
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>>122679327
Found it idden in the depths of my downloads folder on my phone
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>>122679417
Something like Hastur but with the Hunter clothes.
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>>122679683
Pretty legit. But probably not human size
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>>122679417
Who knows how a true grown-up Great One looks like. Maybe he will look like a bizarre form of his former human self, maybe he can shape his own form as he sees fit.
>tfw you will never play as an eldritch Hunter who fights against the beings of even higher order with weapons he crafted himself from pure cosmic energy while defying the laws of time and space
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>>122679829
What if he's like Gascoigne? He's a great one but with the ability to change between Human and Great One form.
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Still need help at Martyr Logarius
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>>122680018
Still not off work
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>>122680010
Don't fit very good for BB. Great power is not for human body. "Childhood beginning" is reference for this.
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>>122680018

Level?
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my ARC char has 10 BLT for when they inevitably fix Reiterpallasch this Friday

looking forward to magic sword builds
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>>122677957
>Suddenly, Everyone Wants To Be A Powder Keg
>Suddenly
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Do you think the great ones influence the world beyond yharnam? All they seem to care about is yharnameven though they have the whole cosmos to fuck around it
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>>122680857

Is Friday when they're patching the new content into the base game?
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WHERE THE FUCK IS THE FIGHT CLUB ART
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>>122680983

Yes.
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>>122680018
Nevermind I said fuck it and god it.
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>>122680983
They already have :^)
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When does the DLC unlock again? Tuesday?
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>>122681090

Neat.
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>>122681127

Yes 24 Tuesday.
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>>122681203
Too far away. Don't think I'm going to make it.
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>>122681098
You had the power all along, good hunter.
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>>122679115
Doesn't look like the league set. It has similar buttons in the front but he has a visible tie, additional pockets, and no chain for the cape.
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>>122681249

Jesus Christ anon is not like you are going to die.
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>>122681345
i might
you n ever know
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>>122678217
fear the tiger blood
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So if the new patch is coming in before the dlc to give us the new content on friday, does that include the beasthood (or atleast beast claws) rework?
We could be beasts as soon as this weekend if that's the case

Also, considering buckethead is coming in the patch, I really don't doubt that you'll be able to get his armor after killing him and visiting the insight bath in the dream, I'd imagine that we might get one or two of the new weapons as well depending on what he or the other npc hunters are using
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>>122681326
Wow sweet cosplay

>>122681345
It's gonna be hard for all of us
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>>122681326
funny thing. I saw this pictures the other day
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>the 3 NPC hunters in Yahar'gul near the Hypogean Gaol lamp
Is there a way to not aggro all of them at once?
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>>122681326
>>122681615
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>>122681583
no no. The patch is just the npc summons. bucket head, beast hood etc is DLC
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>>122681624
Well thanks, now I can't fucking post it.
Best BB cosplay ever, though.

>>122681640
The first time I fought them, I ran them all the way back to the lamp and they went to the corner, so I hit them through the wall.
I'm not proud, but I'm alive.
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>>122681640
No but if you run outside and around the left of the building there's a door you can open so you can skip them all on your next turn. Also, only the claws guy follows you down there so you can take him out 1 on 1
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>>122681668
Fucking neat. Prince of memes when ?
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>>122681668
also saw this
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>>122681774
o rly?
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>>122681583
The only new content that will be available before tuesday is english solaire and his covenant. We should be able to see the new weapons the summons will be using but we won't be able to get them.
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>>122681774
The dlc download itself is really small in the ps store
How from usually handles dlc is that they'll patch all the content into the base game a little while beforehand and then the dlc acts as the key to get in the new areas and get to all the new content, this allows people who don't have the dlc to still interact with people who do get it
Because of this people were already in the dlc areas before it went on the store for DaS2 atleast
Plus it seems silly to do 2 big patches that make changes to the base game within a few days of eachother, you have to pay money to put out patches on the networks

I'm just being hopeful, but with good reason atleast
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>>122681774
source: cosmos
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YOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>122682313
>hopeful
about what? It's not like we're going to be able to access any DLC content before tuesday no matter how they distribute it.
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>>122682684
Victorian Mitsurugi?
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>>122682697
Weren't you reading?
The beast claws rework and such, we could all be beasts before the dlc, that was my original point
We might be able to get bucketheads armor beforehand as well, considering all hunters armor sets are available in the insight bath after killing them, the odd one out being eilleen which is unlocked with her badge but she drops it on death anyway
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>>122682953
you only get the beastclaw rework from the dlc JESUS
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>>122682684
it looks nowhere near that chunky in game, still into it though
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>>122682953
>The beast claws rework and such
If it's just a straight up modification to the original weapon then sure, we'll probably get it since that would technically be a balance change. But we don't even know if that's the case.

Ned Kelly isn't supposed to be DLC content so yeah, we should be able to get him.
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>>122682684

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N7VrwlJWHk
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>>122683209
>straight up modification
imo the existence of Vlad/Rad/Brad makes this seem less likely
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>>122683209
Do we have any footage of the beast claws aside from the trailer?
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>>122683146
>From patches dlc content into the base game before the dlc release date as they've done with both DaS 1&2
>The DLC part you buy on the store has always been the key to get in because everything else is a part of the base game
>Part of the DLC is a potential stat rework and a confirmed rework of a weapon in the base game
Have you never played a From game that had dlc or what, people without it have always been able to get it via trading or whatever so it's in the base game, but they're reworking a weapon that everyone had already
They've always patched in the content first then put the key to it up for sale in every dlc pack of the game
We don't know how big the new patch is, just the date, and the store says the dlc file size is very small
You are very dense to still not be getting this
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>>122683679
Nope, nothing.

>>122683691
Once again, nothing is confirmed about the rework. We don't even know if there's going to be one, the beast skin might be something entirely independent of the claws.
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>>122683691
You wanna bet? I bet you one fucking dollar you wont get beast mode.
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>>122683930
More importantly even if it's not they could easily just make a different version of the claws that you can only get from the DLC, and call that a rework. If there's anything official that's even used that wording before.
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>>122683930
I doubt it's independent of the claws or beasthood, both times we've the beastly look has with the claws, and the pants are the regular hunter trousers, strongly suggesting the rest of the hunters set was unequipped for like the dragon stone in DaS
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>>122684051
*In the patch
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>>122684051
I'll bet you a sucking dollar instead, I don't want to get fucked by your dollar
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>>122679927
I figured Great Ones have some form of mastery over their appearance. They all look distinctive. Think the Angels from NGE
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>>122684404
fine then, your fucking dollar it is.
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Send me a PlayStation™Networ
http://playp.sn/f/Y-hpZwM8HoRI5SNG
Addme for co-op n shit
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>>122684741
Are you Loranon?
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>>122682008
>It's the same fire textures
FROMSOOOOOOOOOOOOFT
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>>122684741
Do NOT sign in
He will get your PSN info
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>>122685001
At least BB puts them to some actual use.
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>>122684741

That link is used to steal PSN accounts.
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>>122685001
>fire textures
>fire
>textures

first of all thats a photoshop edit you dingdong
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>>122685259
Actually he's right about the texture part. I guess you never fucked around with dsfix very much.
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>>122685259
You see those flames going up and down? It's a texture
Using texture swaps you can change the flames into dicks like a particular DaS pc mod

Also I'm aware it's an edit, I can tell it's the pixels, but the hunter was still using a torch in the original pic so I think they cut and pasted the flames into the DaS2 pic as well
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>>122685384
>>122685475
ok
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>>122685384
>>122685475
>tfw knew this already
>tfw spending 5 hours making that vocaloid edit for the painted guardian set actually paid off a little
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So glad to see /bbg/ alive and well again. Can't wait for the DLC for the cum overload
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>>122686027
The only cum overload that's going to occur will happen if and only if the doll gets a loli helper.
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close enough
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>>122686027
All the tripfags and other undesirables coming back though
I'm fucking ecstatic for the juicy new content but it's gonna be awhile before comfy ded bbg again
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>>122686154
What game is this? Did you make that weapon or did it come like that? Are there mods to make it look modern?
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>>122686267
comfy ded bbg will never happen as long as zebrapost-chan still has access to a computer.
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>>122686154
get yourself a broadsider for bb cannon or something
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Platinum theme when?
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>>122686154
Excuse you this is a general for a game that's not shit
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>>122686442
I don't think FO4 is that bad, actually. The writing however makes Bloodborne look like Tactics Ogre (and makes Tactics Ogre look like Lovecraft).
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>>122686267
You mean comfy ded /bbg/ with lucifer-kun ?
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>>122686367
>zebrapost-chan

I....what now?
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>>122686426

EU only
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>>122686579
I wish she was real. I'd buy her all the books she could ever want. Or at the very least get her a kindle and pirate them.
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>>122686607
He
>talks
like
>this
and
>wont
shut
>up
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>>122686426
What you don't already have it anon ?
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>>122686426
Never, Amerikek
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>>122686426
They said NA was getting it soon, they also said the new patch was soon around that same time before the date for the patch was announced
A good guess is alongside the patch or the dlc

>>122686558
Sadly I've been playing it too because it's the closest to a new STALKER there is
I really can't see it as anymore than a time waster, it feels horribly unfinished and such
But then again everyone says that because it's a bethesda game as an excuse to let it slide and I'm a little biased against them
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>>122686426

Is it another really ugly static theme?
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>tfw co-oping using the SRRC all day

It's fun, and I finally get to put my Choir Bell to use!

Having shit HP due to 99 ARC is totally worth it. I did over 6000 damage to the Hotdog today after I bopped his nose. It was beautiful.
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>>122686896
Arc tools don't get scaled down when getting summoned to low levels too, ACB is my go to Undead Giant buster in story pthumeru
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Anyone want to help with rom?

password : BBG1 (caps)

Cheers senpai
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>>122687118
Story Rom or chalice Rom?
If story, where are you ringing, boss fog or lamp?
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>>122686840
There's definitely some negative space where it's clear that they had to rush things out but Skyrim and FO3 were WAY worse when they came out. In FO3 for instance you could skip half the game right from the start with some creative jumping and very easily make the game unwinnable if you went to one location too early.

Granted those games weren't in development for 7 fucking years.
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Anyone up for chalice Rom?

bl46

Pass bbg321
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>>122687193
Lamp, shortcut is open but hunter is still up.
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>>122687307
Shitter coming to help.
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>>122687275
Helping this other guy with story Rom first, if we make short enough work of him I'll run over and try to srrc into yours in time

>>122687307
Hoping I don't get downscaled or else the fight will be longer than it needs to
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>>122687021

Yeah, that's the best part. I can only imagine the awe in my beckoner's face when I bust out my ACB or spam my Executioner's Gloves.

I'd use the Tiny Tonitrus, too, but its damage sucks considering how many bullets it eats up and how slow it is.
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>>122687275
On my way
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>>122687625
Drop that spoiler m80, spamming the glove is nothing to be ashamed of. It's entirely their fault if they get hit.
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>>122687502
>>122687665
Cool

I'm ringing, thanks
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>>122687502
What the fuck man? Steroids?
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>>122687950
Fire spear senpai, and I was getting scaled down slightly because of level difference
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>>122687778

Sorry, I just feel cheap when I use it against bosses because it deals over 1000 damage (Usually more.) and only costs a single QS bullet in order to cast twice if I constantly have blood bullets up.
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>>122688035
No idea wtf just happened but thanks for the help mate.
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>>122688035
>senpai
Fuck, forgot about that

>>122688164
No problemo mi familia
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>>122687865
SRRCing right now. Took a bit more time, I don't know why my ps4 didn't want to reco to the internet
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Thank you Arc Untane

I hate chalice rom
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What build should I make to embrace the beast?
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Where can i find inflicted organs?
Good fuckin christ I hate this farming shit
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>>122687865
Still there ?
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I just made the Great Isz Chalice. Am I at the fun part of dungeons yet?
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>>122688868
quality is good for claws right now but who knows
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>>122689012
Not yet. But you are close.
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>>122688816
Fire op and don't you forget it
Works even better against bloodletting if you're still summoning

>>122689012
So close, once you make the root FRC then the fun cannot be halted
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>>122689106
Fun and Suffering/pain
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>>122689012

isz is easy as fuck until you get to ebrietas.
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>>122689062
I assume you mean Str based quality?
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LF coop @ upper cathedral ward for emissary / ebrietas.

PW : BBG1 (all caps) @ upper cathedral ward lamp
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>>122678384
I'm already running a beast claw build so this is basically a dream come true.
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>just a little over 5 days left
If I put myself in an induced coma will one of you guys come find me and wake me up on Tuesday?
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>>122689579
Yes, claws scale just a little more with str, I'm currently running a 40/25 str/skl build with my claws.
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>>122690160
Only if I can wake you up by putting my dick in your butt.
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what build for the dlc?
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>>122689747
I need help making a beast claw build right now. I've never got them because I'm a chalice dungeon pussy who's deepest I've gone is like...lower pthumera or something.

It's like it's one half samey-boring, and one half anxiety constantly.

The challenge is sweet but I get a little bored too, and I hate the nonstop feeling of no fucking clue.

>>122690160
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sJx9qbjetg
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>>122689726
what BL? so I dont get downscaled
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>>122688873
pls respond
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>>122690694
why do you need em
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>>122690694
Do you have candy?
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>>122690315
Yeah, the early chalices are pretty shit, they really liven up when you get to Loran, Isz, and depth 5 pthumaru.
Basically, just stick to it anon, I know you can do it.

As for the build, basically focus on strength leaning quality, the one on the left is my main but if you don't like tools then I'd recommend the one on the right, if you feel like 20 end is too much I'd recommend putting the extra points into skl just so you get that extra visceral damage, going from 40-45 or even 50 str isn't gonna increase your damage output all that much.
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>>122688890

Nope
He ded

>>122689106

I know, my saw spear is fire. Just keeping this character low level for now.
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>>122690232
These are way too good
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>>122690949
no
but I have delicious chocolate cake
you can have some if you tell me
>>122690808
need to make a chalice
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>>122689579
yeah but i always split qual because why not, can easily make a 40/40 with 40 vit and it evens out around the same as 50 str 25 skill
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>/v/ is having a BB thread that's only like 2% shitposting

The end is fucking nigh
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>>122691631
Kind of a bad idea though to sacrifice 175hp for 6 points of damage imo
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>>122691314
what chalice
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>>122691694
>going to /v/
>ever
that place has become an cesspool since reddit has taken over it
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Where can I find BoM in chalice dungeons?
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>>122691694
>implying
It's like 30-40% Shitposting. Did you miss all those posts about Pizza?
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>>122692023
cursed and defiled root chalice pthumeru with FRC
dont ask why, i just want to
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Please From, add a blt/arc weapon in the dlc.

I want to be a blood wizard but BB won't let me
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>>122692576
should've followed the guide
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>>122692773
That would be pretty cool, though not sure how it'll work in this setting

An arcane gun?
Blood spells like Yharnam?
I would sell my kidneys for the fucking blood-light-saber she has
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>>122692930
I would adore a tool that makes those awesome fucking blood swords erupt from the ground
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>>122692907
yeah, i should've
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>>122692490
>not rolling through the bite

It's like you don't want fun fights.
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>>122692930

We could have one of the lamps the church doctors have. It could work like the Brainsucker's magic, where they hold you in place.
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>>122692773
thats lke saying you want a fai/int weapon in ds1. You can have one or the other. Cant have both.
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>>122693898
>Artorias Greatsword
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>>122693525
Roll though what? He doesn't even reach

On a more related note
>we Dragon's Dogma now
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>>122693072
That would be sick, specially if you get an animation similar to her piercing her hand

>>122693584
That sounds like an option, but I guess that would just be Arcane, not too related to Bloodtinge
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>>122694014
sorry a *GOOD weapon
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>>122686154
Cute
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Rate my new char 1/2
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>>122694184
2/2
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>>122694184
>>122694385
Someone post the "orig" guide thing

Looks cute, but need bigger images
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>>122694017
When does the PC version of that come out anyway? February?
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>>122694507
January

Pretty hype myself, there's supposed to be a video demonstrating 60fps 4k from Capsom soon or something
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>>122694178
>Better narrow down what I said after being wrong to try to save face
>>
>It is an unfortunate fact that the bulk of humanity is too limited in its mental vision to weigh with patience and intelligence those isolated phenomena, seen and felt only by a psychologically sensitive few, which lie outside its common experience.
-Lovecraft describing the 1-star amazon reviews of Bloodborne, 1922
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>>122694385
>>122694184
I recognize that cutie. Sorry about Logarius the other night, I'm a scrub.
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>>122694629
>60 fps 4k Dragons Dogma
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>>122694184
>>122694385

Where's his penis?
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>>122693898
You're retarded, since there were faith/int builds in 2
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>>122694491
>>122694727
We tried mate, we tried.
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>>122694631
it was a correction motherfucker
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>>122636415
I've entered the same dungeon with another build after killing patches, a messenger bath spawned in his place, you can even see my other dude's ghost.
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>>122694491
Post guide
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>>122694184
>>122694385

HATE WAIFUS
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>>122694995
You were talking about faith/int not being a thing in DaS1 and there are multiple weapons and items that support those kinds of builds, but then it changed to
>Oh no, they don't have GOOD weapons though
You're still just changing your words around
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>>122694184
>>122694385
used the youtube guide/10
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So with the latest info what are the known DLC weapons ? Tell me if I missed anything.

Trick weapons:
1. Simon's Bowblade
2. Beast Cleaver
3. Saw Mill
4. Burial Cleaver
5. Fire Hammer
6. Spear-Warpick
7. Holy Moonlight Sword
8. Clocktower Hunter's Sword
9. Bloodshed Hammer

Left hand weapons:
1. Galasha's Fist
2. Yamamura's Rifle
3. Arcane deflecting Shield
4. Gatling Gun

So that would leave the 10th trick weapon. And since they mentioned that the total number of both left and right hand weapons would be "around 15" there may or may not be another right hand weapons.
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>>122695521

You forgot the Blacksky Eye, but that's an arcane tool.
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>>122695521
They also may or may not be including spells for the "about 15 weapons" part
I wouldn't count them but we've only seen one hunters tool and that adds up to only 14
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>>122695659
I know. I was only talking about weapons. They haven't actually mentioned a tentative number of DLC Arcane tools, though.
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>>122695396
yeah, thats what a correction is. lol
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What's the status quo on the pre-dlc tourney?
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>>122695814
You're still just changing your words to stop from being wrong lol
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>>122695807

I hope there's a couple more.

The Eye is really coo, though. Hopefully it does decent damage.
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Will be great if /bbg/ create new characters for dlc
>grinding dungeons together
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>>122695856
>12, potentially 13 people signed up
>no glyph as of now
>1v1 double elimination
I just hope the patch isn't also a balance patch like we were hearing.
Posted updated info in the previous thread.
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>>122695910
And you're just defining what a correction is.
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>>122696057

I just did that last week and I'm sure as hell not gonna do it again.
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The get all weapons trophy is on a single character or is shared between characters?
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>>122696357
single
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>>122696057
I almost did, but then I remembered I had a perfect character already set up for the DLC pre Rom and with Defiled already out of the way without FRC gems, since it's 25/25 it should be able to use a good number of the new weapons too
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>>122696357
it is not shared
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I hope TOH brings people back, the game is fucking dead. I've invaded the same guy literally 3 times in a row now.

>6 more days
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>tfw got my platinum theme just now
feels /exclusive/ mane
on a side note someone recognised my lil ugly mane long sleeve today at werk which was cool
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>>122696407
>>122696474
Oh ok, thanks, another question, can I give alfred the unopened summons after I've killed Rom?

I can't seem to find him.
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>>122696525
Your fault for being on higher levels or not knowing where and how to invade.
>mfw BL70 and can find activity really fast all across the game world because i actually understand that you shouldn't stay on one place while making invasion attempts
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>>122696525
EU?
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>>122696673
>you're playing it wrong!
Yeah nah suck my cock fuccboi. Gargle my cum faggot. No homo
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>>122695081
the ghost of chalice past

spooky
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>>122696673
Mind helping me make a BL70 build friend? I've been wanting to get into pvp for a while myself.
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>>122696604
is he not over by the gatekeeper in the cathedral ward?
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I did it, lads. We platinum now. Didn't need to summon any help whatsoever. Feels so good. Now I can walk into the DLC with a clear head.

After the horror of defiled amy, HMPH, and Headless BLB, Queen Yharnam was easy in comparison. Walked in, beat her first go. Was shocked.
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>>122697130
Glyph f28prvum if you wanna go see him
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>>122697295
where?

where the password dude?
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>>122697343
I only need to get the 3rd ending and kill yharnam tog et plat, but I'm not feeling motivated enough to put in the effort right now.

I'll probably plat it on the DLC as I'll be more excited to play it more.
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>>122697292
40VIT + either one damage stat on 40 or two on 25 plus base endurance.
Invade in unseen village, cainhurst, both Nightmares, host and invade in ng+ central yharnam by not killing cleric beast. Also old yharnam can be quite active sometimes, but it's a hit or miss place.
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>>122697292
>>122697758
Also the fundamental rule of successful BB invasions lies in understanding that your character needs to resonate with pvp opponent in order to initiate invasion. And to resonate you need to be physically close to the host in another world at least for a moment (so the host gets touched by the "circle" that appears around your character while using the Bell).

So it's advised to constantly move around while trying to invade to cover larger area and increase your chance to resonate with a host. Also invade in choke points which everyone traversing the location has to go through.
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I did not know about this

Neat
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>>122698113
They don't need to touch anything. There are zone boundaries that allow invasion and co-op.
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>>122698113
>so the host gets touched by the "circle" that appears around your character
What?
No.

You can invade just fine way ahead of the host in a location which they haven't reached yet

Basically this >>122698256
Just like in previous souls games, except that you don't spawn in a set location, but rather where you stand
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>>122695163
Because you've never seen a decent one
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>>122698256
This ain't DS1, BB works differently invasion-wise.
For all my 500 hours there never was a situation where i invaded someone who was just in the boundaries of an area. I never invaded ahead of them unless they deliberately crossed the area already and then backtracked.

Just pay attention to this next time you try to invade. You will never invade an idler staying near the lamp post if you ring the bell even in 10 meters away.
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>>122698503
>silver sword of the holy church while being dressed as a cainhurst slut
how heretical
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>>122698165
That's pretty cool. I wonder what else we haven't discovered about chalice dungeons.
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>>122698561
You provide no proof of the host needing to "touch" the ring around your character nor have I heard that from anybody, ever.

It works similarly to Dark Souls zone boundaries, except they are more strict. Illusorywall has even done tests on this. I have no clue where you even got this idea from.
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>Beast mode changes hunter's axe running r1 into Gascan's slide axe across the floor.

AHHHHHHH FROM PLEASE DO IT
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>>122698725
Does it help that I'm euphoric and don't belong to any covenant?
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>>122698765
I would do more random non-super-cursed dungeons because you can find neat stuff like that, but there really is no point as the reward from them is minimal

Also, the items in the chest didn't "break" I just came up to it from the correct side and had an "Open chest" prompt, which just picked up the item
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>>122698561
The summoning hasn't actually changed since DS1, they just made it automatic because your bells continue to ring, you will be summoned/invade in the same ranges in which you would see a summon sign in DS1
The zones seem a lot smaller than DS1 though, a good rule of thumb is the same room, but you can for instance be summoned up the ladder in cainhurst if the host never pulled the switch or even made it up the stairs
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>>122698821
He was "testing" it on a small area after the first ladder in certal yharnam, that place is too small to say whether or not it's a zone boundary or resonance between players.
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>>122698872
>beast mode against Gascoigne prompts different dialogue and Gascoigne going nuts right away

Also, existing NPCs are getting more dialgoue in the patch, right? I thought that was confirmed.
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>>122699009
This anon is absolutely correct

I always stand in this cove, in the spiders room, and often invade someone just entering the room or someone who hasn't even opened the door
An example is also shown in this webm >>122690232 where they haven't even aggro'd the spiders, much less reached that spot
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I kind of wish I'd been strong enough to avoid these threads until the dlc came out, to avoid getting spoiled on any details about it. Oh well, too late now.
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>>122699414
I can't help myself when it comes to spoiling; I watched all the gameplay webms of people who had pre-release copies. I don't think it dampened my experience of the game, really.
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>>122699414
Well it's not like you know each detail, it's just publicly known information, so just avoid them after the 24th and you're good!
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>>122698872
>Beast mode changes visceral attacks to 1HKO dismemberments

Erste
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>>122697295
yea. Before the password man by the altar
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>>122698872
>beast mode gives additional movesets to weapons and transformations based on the weapon affiliation(hunter, beast, kin)
>like blades of mercy transformed the hunter into a mini wet nurse
>hammer and the like turn you into a ayylmao
the possibilities man
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>>122699938
oops meant to reply to >>122697458
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>>122694184
>>122694385

5/10
Face looks plastic. Did you upload this to facebook then saved it? If you did, next time view it in fullscreen then save it so the resolution wouldn't be this small.
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>>122698872
>>122699369
>>122699773
>>122700030
You guys are going too far, but I like it

>beast mode changes the Roar gesture sound into a Cleric beast/Amelia roar
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>>122700219
>beast mode allows you to roar without any bullet investment
>roar gives a 30% damage buff for 15 seconds like dragon form in ds1 did
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Anyone knows where I can get bolt radials? Docs only have for waning and Abhorrent only drops waning too.
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>>122700387
>new chalice dungeon
>drops Darkbeast gems
>beast mode transformation enables you to become something similar to Abhorrent Beast
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I've been spooked today
Heard the beast claws sound and didn't know where it came form, thank god I walked back a couple steps
I swear I didn't scream
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>>122700729

>spoiler

one time I got blindsided by a Madman and yelped

fucking frc dungeons
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So if I wanted to make a super comprehensive coop character, with a fire and bolt version of his main weapon, what weapon would be best for that? I have no idea how the alternative gemmed versions of the weapons work, I just finished my first run.
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>>122700387
>beast mode allows you to use any hunter tool without any bullet investment during its duration
>old hunters bone gets buffed to gherman's levels of quickening
we anime now
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>>122700940
For bolt you'll want a lost weapon, as bolt radials and triangles are the strongest and easiest to get, fire you'll want whatever has 2 radials and a triangle
An uncanny saw is recommended for a fire weapon because it stacks damage bonuses against beasts and gets to high numbers easily
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Do you guys think they'll add alternate versions of the new weapons to chalices? Like uncanny and so on
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>>122700940
>>122701245
>bolt radials and triangles
I meant to say bolt wanings and triangles, bolt radials are a bitch and aren't even the best of the bolt gems you can get, my bad
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>>122701280
I hope we can just fucking buy them for like a ton of insight. It would save so much time, fuck diluting the chalice reward pool further.
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>>122701245
Don't you mean Lost Saw Spear for elemental stuff? Or what layout does Uncanny Saw Spear have?
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>>122701601
Uncanny switches the waning and triangle slots, a regular spear has radial radial waning, an uncanny would have radial radial triangle
You want atleast one triangle because it's the only shape that can get a 27% elemental, and watchdog has the best fire gems for the other shapes, you can either farm him once for 2 radials in pthumeru or farm him twice so you can get a waning from a loran watchdog as well
That's really up to personal preference, if you want just one weapon and want to switch out fire and bolt gems in the dream inbetween fights a lost would work just as well, an uncanny would work better if you wanted to switch it out between fire and arc or something

refer to >>122701365 about lost for bolt though, I goofed in my original comment
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>>122701601

Uncanny has radial-radial-waning, which is still alright for a fire/bolt weapon. You're just missing out on a 27% elemental triangle.

Honestly, it's not that bad because you can just farm a 23% elemental gem with a +flat effect of the same element from a Bone Ash hunter and get the same damage output.
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>>122701280
>that picture

Kekepedes

Wouldn't it be nice if we got a variation of weapon that has 3 slots of the same shape?
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>tfw don't feel any hype at all for DS3
>tfw BB's DLC adds so much new stuff and build/cosplay potential that i don't want to go back to ten weapons per weapon category that only differ from each other in terms of stats and models
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>>122691994
This way it's versatile though, gets good dam from skil/str or str/skil weapons and can switch between them. he can switch from an axe to a reiter or BoM to kirk without batting an eye

>2 hours ago

ok cool
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>>122702118
This would be fucking perfect.
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>>122702163
>tfw don't feel any hype at all for DS3

I know how that feels. But I'll still be getting it just to punish those who still play it like Dark Souls 1. From what I've seen from those beta tests, you'd be better off playing it like BB.
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>>122702118
Every build would want three triangles then, it's the only one that would allow full 27%'s for any type of damage
Unless you're a blt fag, then you'd want three circles
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>>122702501
>Every build would want three triangles then
Not really. Waning gems have some good flat damage secondary effects and from what i've seen it's much easier to get radial adept gems.
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>>122702163
I am unlike you anon, I am hype as fuck for Dark Souls III
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>>122702163
Back after playing demons and dark I was super stoked for DaS2 shame it turned out to be kinda shit
But now I'm not hyped at all for DaS3, not because of what happened with DaS2, but rather because of all the new and innovative shit BB bought to the table, it's just really boring going back to the old souls formula
And that's what DaS3 feels like, going back, it just doesn't seem fun or new
>>
Anyone able to help me with logarius please?
Ringing outside fog
Pw: vgkek777
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>>122702464
I spent 10 minutes with it a couple of months ago and pretty much the only things that aren't straight from Bloodborne are the carryover mechanics from DS1. The mobs behave like BB mobs, are spaced out like BB mobs, and the boss (and the miniboss, if you can call it that) punishes you like a BB boss.
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>>122702718
It'll be new for those DeS/DaS/DaS2 only bros because it's bringing bloodborne to souls.

>>122702820
I will conditionally, based on your answer.

What is your favorite SNES game?
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>>122702501
>farming 3 31% circles
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>>122695081
I went into your dungeon and I found a bath too, I didn't kill patches though
Is it the dead end hall on the layer 2 pre boss bonus layer? Do you need to have patches leave his place on the desk or something?
Also this dungeon has too many witches
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>>122702970
Analcavitysearch the game
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>>122702820
You can co-op regardless of level right? I'll boot up my PS4 real quick.
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>>122703075
yes but depending on the host's level, your level will be downscaled to theirs if the host is not in the level range of yourself
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Which is better for Blades of Mercy?

Lost or Uncanny?
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>>122703393

Normal. Lost is for elemental gems and uncanny for arcane. You want physical gems for BoM.
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>>122703393
normal
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>>122703368
okay

>>122702820
dinging my dong.
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>>122702163
>>122702641
>hype as fuck for the BB DLC
>hype as fuck for DaS3
>hype as fuck for the inevitable DLC for DaS3
>hype as fuck for the new games From is working on

Finally this fucking console has some games I'm hyped about. I don't give a shit about rehashes, as long as the gameplay looks good. TOH is basically going to make BB even better, and DaS3 was fun as fuck. And From hasn't put out bad Souls DLC, so I'm sure they'll pump out even more shit 7 months after that game launches.

Fucking beautiful time to be an edgy ARPGfag
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>>122703507
>>122703547
But I missed Eileen
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>>122703060
I think Patches needs to leave the lecture hall, try killing Amy and talking to him, then go back into the dungeon and see if he appears, it'll be interesting see if they just switch or if you need to remake the dungeon.

>>122702163
The lore and setting doesn't excite me like DaS or Bb's did, eager to be swept off my feet though and sword arts look great, I like how they use the mana bar. I'm just not obsessed like I was when Project Beast leaked.
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>>122703592

Well then you fucked up. Start new game+. She is very early in the game just kill her.
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>>122703393
Normal dawg, thank goodness. I love it when I don't have to get to Ithyll for the weapon I want to use.
>>
Crap! I'm sorry I died. Lol. Good luck, man. Summon me again if you need me.
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>>122703804
Managed to visceral the fucker to death, thanks for the help though bruh
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>>122703630
>I'm just not obsessed like I was when Project Beast leaked
same
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpfSG-GCI5g
still get pumped from watching it
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>>122703912
I-I actually died on purpose so you could practice your parries and hone your skill in battle

No problemo. If you still need someone to co-op with later, I could help.
>>
>tfw you're excited for TOH as much as you would be for a completely new game coming out
>but aren't excited for DS3 in the slightest
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>>122702163
>tfw don't feel any hype at all for DS3

Same here. I will still get it in the future but its just more of the same. After 3 games of the same setting and lore you just dont get excited anymore. You know what to expect and how shit works. I came into Bloodborne blind and it was so refreshing with the Victorian setting and then out of fucking nowhere comes cthulhu and fucks you in the ass and ears with tentacles and that leaves a long lasting impression.
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>>122704140
Thanks senpai
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>>122704472
Based J-moot
:^)
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>>122703630
Yeah, had to make sure he left his desk
He called me a good friend when I found him in the dungeon and still tried to jew me out, what a swell guy I love him
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>>122703650
>just kill her
I never even thought to do this
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>>122703585
I am getting Dark Souls III for both PC and PS4

I am so fucking hype
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Why is the burial blade so god damn disappointing
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>>122705442

I think is fun. It just lacks damage.
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>>122705442
Because you haven't put gems on it and destroyed a gank squad with it
And because it doesn't have the Greatscythe R2 from DS1. One fucking thing I want them to do with their sickles, two games in a fucking row, 5 different sickles, and fucking nothing.
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>>122705442
It's fucking godsend against coop squads and overall very strong when used correctly.
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>>122705363

>Get it on PC
>Have to deal with hackers and a smaller player base
>But has better visuals and framerate
>Get it on console
>Have to deal with significantly shittier framerate and paid online
>But has a better player base and no hackers

What do?
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>>122705854
PC is confirmed to 30 fps lock to match consoles.
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>>122705854
No one is getting DS3 in 60fps. Not at launch anyway.
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>>122705916

You cannot be serious. Why would they do this after 60fps for DaS2?
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>>122706051
>60fps meme
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>>122706156

>meme
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>>122706051
Because 30 fps is just fine. Fuck the self-entitled PC kiddies.
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>>122706051
Because 60 fps souls is buggy as fuck
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>>122706051
DS2 was designed to run at 60. DS3 is being designed to run at 30 like BB and DS1.
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>>122706258
pls go away
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>>122706318

>BB
>30

I fucking wish. Game is constantly going under it.
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>>122706258
Well I basically agree, it's just that 30fps with pretty consistent dips is kind of lame. It's nothing that will keep me from playing a game, though.

>>122706384
Well it is designed to run at 30, regardless of how well it performs. Not that the dips are really that bad outside of a couple of really weird spots (like if you walk to the left instead of crossing the bridge in Old Yharnam and the framerate tanks for a bit for seemingly no reason)
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>Kin mode

If this guy is fucking lying I swear to god I am going to fucking shit
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>>122706258

I dont have a problem with 30fps as long as its steady. Unfortunately that is impossible in miyazaki games.

>summon co op in yharnam
>15 fps
>control commands get all fucked
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>>122706051
Because they proved themselves yet again to be incompetent as fuck when it comes to programming on PC.

>durability bug left unfixed for at least 1+ year

I’ll gladly accept 30fps if it avoids shit like the durability bug from ever being a thing.
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>>122706606

Its a random post from 4chan. Of course its a lie.
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>>122706351
>>122706586
>>122706712

Please don't reply to that idiot, thank you!
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>>122706712
I have more co-op issues in DS2, actually. Not with the framerate lagging but the connection being so fucked on the host's end that everything is frozen in place and the enemies occasionally jump around every 30 seconds or so.

The crazy lag and the double gas can shit that people were posting webms of around the time the game came out has never happened to me and I get the same 24-30 frames I get everywhere else.
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Show me your hunters' faces, /bbg/
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>>122706860
He was supposedly right about the blood hammer and it would make sense if we get beast mode and ties in with the gems that do kin mode damage down sort of thing.

Fuck man I just wanna be a squid with thoughts on a higher plane.
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>>122707012
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>>122707012
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>Kin mode is a thing alongside beast mode
>It carries over to weapon modifiers
>All those -%damage against kin gems people farm for start stacking up
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>>122706796
Still hasn't been changed that much. All they did was make it impossible for you to lose durability on corpses.
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>>122707348
>”They don’t matter for pvp” they said

WHOSE LAUGHING NOW YOU BEASTLY IDIOTS
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>>122704669
Sweet, now the Labyrinth Mole's spawn requirements is the only mystery that remains .
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>>122707340
vaguely reminds me of Jesus.

>>122707150
Looks cartoony, but pretty gud
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>>122707012
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>>122707012
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>>122707724
BLACKED
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>>122707713

That's the first time I've heard that.
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>>122707724
pretty boys amirite?
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>>122707887
but there are literally no black guys in Yharnam
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>>122707012
NEVER POSTING SLIDERS
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>>122708014

Thats a hot looking crow
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>>122708014
You made the one on the left, right?
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>>122708000
Henryk is black, the only black guy I think
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>>122707982
not sure if I'm the only one that sees the similarities. Could be my eyes are playing tricks on me. Haven't been sleeping well lately.
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>>122708000
Eileen the Corw
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>just sit around all day thinkign bout life
>get to wear comfy as fuck robes, hell even take them off if you wanna spook a few folks
>feed on delicious insight all day every day
>whenever some dummy comes along and tries to bop you with a blunt weapon you just grab them in half a second and give their brain a suck
>shoot laser beams at people that binds them then grab em and give them the old brainsuck
>tfw I will never be a brainsucker

It hurts to live
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>>122708218
Please don't start this again
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>>122708295
>getting stunlocked by torch spam
I don't envy them.
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>>122708351
He literally has black skin on his model though
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>>122707012
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>>122708014
Now I'm sure you are also that kakashi poster. Posting superior female.

>>122708295
You could be a different kind of sucker ;^)
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>>122708232

I think I can see it.

They'd be even more similar if he had long hair.
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>>122708014
Pretty sure no one wants those sliders anyway m8

Copy that!
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>>122708473
SLIDERS
L
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D
E
R
S
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>>122705485
>lacks damage
It has amazing dash/quickstep/rolling R1 multipliers and hitboxes with the exception of tricked rolling R1 and the transform attack does stupid fucking damage and with hyper armor
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>tfw the music in Bloodborne is so weak I mute it and play MonHun boss themes instead

https://youtu.be/zjCwAJHL-84?t=202

It just works.
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>>122708476
i don't know who that is
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>Ah, you were at my side all along. My true mentor, my guiding moonlight.
Is he talking to his moonlight greatsword?
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>>122708829
(You)
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>>122708473
This changes everything about Bloodborne

>brown individual running across town
>white villagers telling you it's all your fault
>blind man tells you to seek "Paleblood"
>you beat up a disabled man at the end of the game

It's a pretty racist game to be honest, kindred
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>>122708829
Rage mode armor was a mistake
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>>122708908

I never got this meme.
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>>122708875
Moon Presence?
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>>122709118
It's meant for "Here's your reply you were fishing for"
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>>122708729
http://imgur.com/a/8Op99

Here you go anon, can't be bothered to compile it into one image
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>>122708875
It's been weeks and I still can't get over how fucking grotesque he is
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>>122709472
Thank you friend
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>>122708875

Will he rape female hunters?
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>>122708875
Moonlight Greatsword might be more than just a homage this time

Potentially Moon Presence's presence?
Or another Great One, or a Great One's power in the sword or something
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Anyone down for killing an frc undead giant, sword version, no chains?

Pass is frc333

Much easier with two
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>>122709619
Most likely a beacon directly to cosmic plane which can draw a pure arcane power.
If Micolash ever heard of that thing he probably got a huge hardon just by thinking about it.
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>>122709678
I do, but give me a while?
Message me on PSN ragincajunnugz , I'll reply when I can farm.
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>>122709619
>>122709792
>slay mp with moonlight greatsword
>forth ending
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>>122709678
>>122710006
Wait, just killing once?
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>>122707012
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>>122710040
>you kill a cosmic being with a dimension-ripping sword
>entire world is engulfed in light and all humans ascend to the higher plane of existence
miyazaki won't miss the opportunity to make a berserk reference
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>>122709472
Wait, what armor is that? I don't recognize the coat
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>>122708875
>There's still a bit of humanity retained on the left side of his face, complete with a completely normal eye
>Neck stump and right side of face covered in milky, blind eyes
So does insight really allow you to see, or is it actually blinding you in a different kind of way?
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Regarding the lack of black black cuaracters - arnt japs really racist as a whole?
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>>122711031
looks like the female variation of the yharnam hunter set
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>>122711291
Japan is probably one of the most xenophobic cultures today, they don't even care if you're Asian they'll still look down on you, hell they'll look down on you if you're Japanese but from one the Islands they don't like.
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>>122711275
I dont think anyone really knows the full effects of insight and it seems like the effects differ from person to person. Maybe it lets some people see more and some it blinds
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Anyone wanna kill Ebrietas in the Great Isz Chalice?
glyph is kn6kw2in

bl 94

pass bbg123
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>>122711335
Well that explains it
The female variant looks cooler
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>Gatling Gun
>Saw Mill
>Timed Bombs
>Fire Hammer
>Blood Hammer

I'm so fucking glad my build of choice for my BL80 DLC invader was Powderkeg Themed. Best idea.
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Is djura a powderkeg or does he just use their shit?
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FUCK THIS PATCHES DUNGEON
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>>122711992
ringing
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>>122712360
Most likely he's a Powderkeg. Here's my all but confirmed idea about him.

>Old Yharnam degenerates into a beast orgy
>Hunter's Workshop decide that those heretical retards with their enormous guns and contraptions are best suited to containing the situation
>During the purge of Old Yharnam, Djura comes to realize that beasts aren't inhuman and probably is also wither witness to or participant in the genocide of non-scourge infected citizens in the name of containment.

I bet the DLC either confirms my idea or tells us the truth. Here's something to think about: The Hunter's Nightmare is accessed with the "Eye of the Blood Drunk Hunter". Djura looks like he's missing an eye. Maybe he sealed the Old Hunters in the clocktower of Old Yharnam with some help from somebody/something. The sun in the Nightmare looks exactly like the clocktower of Old Yharnam aswell as the Cathredral Ward. I bet we get to go there via Old Yharnam's tower. Maybe a cutscene occurs if you possess the eyeball.
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>>122708729
Wow, the new involved in that image makes me hurt.

It kills me when I see people google ancient memes and misuse them. It could be good too, especially without the near-invisible text.
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>>122712756
>Gehrman calls for help
>gets the hunter's dream
>At the cost of his leg
>Djura calls for help
>gets the hunter's nightmare
>at the cost of his eye
Coincidence?
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>>122695521
>bloodshed hammer
you what
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OK so I defeated chalice Ebrietas.
Which chalice should I make?
Pursue Ithyll?
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>>122713476
Famitsu article. It's the OP image, of course.

>>122713616
Ihyll for radials, Loran for wanings, Isz for triangles.
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>>122713682
is that the one with the hunter in the church set stabbing himself in the chest?

is there a translation for this shit yet
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>>122712230
>tfw my only powder keg character is a SKL/BLT rifle spear

FUG

Guess I got a few days to whip up a str powder kegger.
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>>122713902
>not building it quality and using the trifecta of confirmed kegger weapons
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>>122698165

i got a room like that once except no enemies so I had to break it myself

looked it up tho
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>>122708931
>The villagers also call you a damned beast

I can't stop laughing
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>>122695521

>Bloodshed Hammer

Looks more like a hunter tool to be honest family
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>>122713226
>DLC will be accessed through the item “Eye of a blood drunk hunter”
>Djura is missing an eye

VAATI
A
A
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I
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>>122705617
this so fucking much. Luckily the right dash + R1 of the burial blade looks nearly identical too it but its just not the same
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Anyone want to give a ps4bro help with the cainhurst boss?
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>>122715098
He posts and then remembers it's an exclusive
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>tfw you killed so many beasts that your skull on a chain got wicked shades
Nice
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>>122715098
Sure, level or password?

Also, I'm not sure why people struggled with this boss so much. I'm absolute shit but this is my first time at the boss:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7L-f8kr4W8

I summoned help, and more came as I went through the fog (who then bailed inexplicably) and the help died...but I managed it and have done it exactly like that since.

On the other hand...Rom smashes my face in horribly.
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>>122715257
>he doesn't have the dreamcast edition
lamao
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Small challenge
Create a build based on a character from the last game you played
If that game was bloodborne, choose a character from th last game you played before that
Screenshots are appreciated
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>>122717154
I like the idea, but I think Souls games build challenges are more popular than slider challengers.

Like, NG++ only beast claws run, under level 100.
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I wish there would be more blood bosses

All bosses that used blood in some way were easier than the ones before them somehow

I wish Annalise was a boss too...
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>>122694790
Source on picture?
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>>122717154
Did SotN Alucard cosplay with Alucard's Sword/Crissaegrim way back in May for low-level coop and twink busting, still using it.
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>You will never be good at creating characters
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>>122718396
It least I can hide the horrid visage my character calls a face under a mask.
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>mfw I only now just realised that Kirkhammer has a unique sword transformation attack when you go from tricked to untricked

wew
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>>122713902

What is the BB version of a quality build?

25/25?

or 25/50?
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>>122718921
50/50
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>>122719000

Can't argue with those trips
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>>122718921
ther's 3
str focused quality: 50/25
skl focused quality: 25/50
and actual quality: 40/40
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Well that was a fucking solid chalice pity there was no forth layer
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Can anyone help me with the lower pthumerian labyrinth? lvl 81 glyph: hmjz397q
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>>122719280
40/40 is shit, you may as well go to 50/50 for maximum bang or stop at more focused ones.
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>>122719000
Did the leap attack connect?! Or did he disappear?!

DON'T LEAVE ME HANGING LIKE THIS
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>>122718797
so does ludwigs

they also both have unique attacks when you go untricked to tricked
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>>122719518
you could go 50/50 but you're vit would be pretty bad at 98/100 unless you're going 100+
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>>122717154
how do i play as the car from rocket league
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>>122718797
bruh
also why isn't this a thing on more weapons, such a nice way to diversify the approach
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>>122712568
are you having fun yet?
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>>122708875
>>122709516
this is probably one of the most disgusting boss designs ive ever seen. Its worse than anything ive come across in silent hill

fucking awesome
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>>122718257
Looks like that imgr sliders set from reddit.
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>>122706796
>>122706051
I think its cuz of the way they program combat and they tie it to the frames. DS2 got up to 60 frames (which was pretty awesome) but the combat was fucking hot sweaty dog dicks
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>>122719739
There's no logical reason to have all builds at 100 aside from some retarded form of circlejerking.
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>>122720487
Did that guy's weapon broke or something?
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>>122720652
I'm pretty sure he was just a clueless newfriend trying to invade for a first time.
Although that was one of a few exceptions in 3 hours i've hosted there, everyone else were twinks.
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>You will never PVP in Moonside Lake
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>>122720487

98-120 is for FC's

I don't honestly care what level people stop at for any other form of pvp but I always tend to stop where it allows a good investment in stats while still having to make some sacrifice, but also at a BL which has plenty of activity (which coincidentally 98-120 allows in Frontier/Menshit)
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>>122720954
>no moonside lake fight club ever
it's like final destination but cool as fuck
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Tomorrow is the patch?
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>>122720954
>you will never pvp in abandoned workshop
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>>122720954
>>122721165

>you will never FC in Witch's Abode
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>>122720954
>You will never PvP inside Gehrman's arena
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>>122721019
Higher levels actually even more active than BL100 in nightmares.
I have a 140 and he can invade crazy fast there. Especially in Frontier, i've collected two stacks of 99 dregs really fast just by standing there.
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>>122721338

This hurts the most.
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>>122707012
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>>122721348
I'm eagerly awaiting your Gatling gun webms senpai
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>>122721503
I really hope that it actually has good BLT scaling and gem slot for a change.
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>>122721348

I've never done a 140 character, I guess my bums still a bit sore from the high SM-tier shit that ds2 produced early on. I think I'm under the impression that 140 will put me against people who have 50 in all stats or something.

What's a good mid range BL to be for mid game invasions? I have a 60 in Yaha/Cainhurst and a 75 in Upper Cathedral/Mensis.
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>>122721804
50-70 is the best range for pvp builds from what i've seen if you're interested in midgame areas.
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First thing I'm gonna do with the Gatling gun is to unload every bullet into Djura's body. I'm getting revenge for my first play through mental breakdowns
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>>122722096

Wonder how fast it will run out of ammo.
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I will NEVER know what caused this ever
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>>122722096
THEY'RE NOT BEASTS THEY'RE PEOPLE
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>>122722264
>It eats through bullets like a flamespray and fires as fast as Djura's gun
From pls
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>>122722264
Probably like the Flamesprayer and Rosmarinus
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>>122722096

Is going to be useless for PVP.
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>>122722352

It's known as the anime quickstep™

Not as powerful as I've seen it but still pretty fast. Works better if you see them pause them materialize elsewhere and your HP explodes from full to 0.
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>>122722367
Shut up. I'm going to make you eat quicksilver the moment I get that gun.
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>>122707012
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>>122722668
What is stronger, Anime quickstep or Australian connection?
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>>122722772
fucking terrorist
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>>122722367

Beasts are beasts, no matter their past.

Djura pls go and stay go, you literally need a building to fire your gatling gun while we can just wield it you fugging loser.
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>>122722840
top khat
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This good for a muh 98 meta chikage build? Killing time till the DLC
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>>122722096
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-P9T9SrZWY
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>>122707012
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>>122722889
>yfw after the update Djura will pull his gattling gun off its mount and tag team you with his pal in the plaza
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>>122722815

Anime quickstep is usually a momentary skill.

Australia somehow figured out how to prolong the effect and developed the Australian Bantz Powered Quickstep™ which can only be countered with using a similarly high level bloodline technique such as McDonalds Wifi Connection, "go easy I'm streaming" or Zimbabwe quickstep.
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>>122723017
>15 end
Trash it
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>>122723156
>go easy I'm streaming
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>>122722815
be prepared for my thick australian blunderbuss in the coming tourny
>>
>Edgelord of Cainhurst chains two shots together
I fucking hate this bastard.
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>tfw 2 days till expansion.
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>>122723420
Nigga, the expansion is on the 24th
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>>122722815
Australian connection
Fighting property's wheel is a mash of dash R1 spam on both sides and praying you somehow iframed and landed your own attack
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>>122723383
just prepping you up for your average bt fags
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>2 days till League of Extraordinary Kosm

I hope there are some good rewards.
>>
What kind of Arcane scaling will the bow have? Am I going to have to make a Skill/Arc build for it to do decent ranged damage?

I also hope the charge hammer is fun, looks awesome.
>>
>>122723813
>What kind of Arcane scaling will the bow have?
I'd have to guess it would have arcane scaling
>>
>>122723813
Crap arcane scaling. It's as pure a skill weapon as Blade of Mercy and Burial Blade.

The character using it in the demo had really low arc and decent skl, but was doing great damage with the arrows, so they're most likely skill based.
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>>122723536
pre-load
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>>122723279
but y?
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>>122723972
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>>122719745
Okay then, game before that
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>>122719745
You use the wheel silly
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>>122719745
wheel
running attacks only
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>>122681085
srry it's late?
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>>122724926
It's really nice Anon. Now make a version where the Executioner is using the Wheel as a shield while the Vileblood empties his Evelyn on him like a machinegun.
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>>122702163
why are you here?
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>>122707012
>waitn 4 DLC
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>>122715921
Wife just came home, gonna eat and avoid raging. Thanks much though, anon
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>>122723943
I meant letter, sorry senpai
>>122723964
Oh that's fantastic then. I've got a good Skill focused Hunter ready to go right before Rom, but my arcane is still early game. I was just worried I might have to make another character that's Arcane/Skill just to use the bow well.
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Ok, on my "Finally going to dive into the Chalice Dungeons for the weapon I always wanted" run, I just beat down Cleric, and I'm taking a snack break since I forgot dinner.

Next, I'm going to rush for the first chalice and go as deep as I can until my weapons suck and I need to move on for upgrade stones.
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>>122717154
How do I do Geralt?

Barring that how do I do Richter?
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>>122723964
The Arcane scaling isn't crap, the reason BoM and BB have slow arcane scaling is because they have low bass arcane damage. The bow blade has base 90 at 8 and will probably cap at 100 it'll have good arcane scaling but nothing too great.
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>>122727219
BoM's and BB's arcane scaling are crap solely due to base damage. They still technically have high scaling relative to their base damage. The bow, however, has only C scaling at +8.
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>>122727481
Anyone pushing through NG+ to get ready for the expansion? Going for shadow of Yarnam
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>>122724274
Chikage doesn't have the most versatile moveset in the game but you still have options with it. However, R1 spam isn't one of those options, so having high stam doesn't help you a whole lot.
You're also going to be using gun spam a lot. Coupling that with the fact that gun shots don't require any stamina makes it so that, for optimal minmaxing purposes with BT builds, end be as low as possible.
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>>122727219
Never done an arcane build. Anyone have advice for one that is PvE viable for shitters?
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>>122727580
>Shadow of Yharnam
Just did it in one run while holding on to a decent pile of echoes. Had 1 vial left when I took out the last snake-spamming fag. Felt so goddamn good, I love my Burial blade but fuck do some of the moves not come out reliably when I'm zipping around.

I heard NG+ tones down some of the bullshit damage sponginess later on, around when does that start happening?
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>>122727663

>choose Cruel Fate or Waste of Skin as your origin
>pick Threaded Cane as your starting weapon
>obtain Saw Spear asap
>talk to Gilbert, beat up Gascoigne, talk to him again for the Flamesprayer
>upgrade your shit, but make the Flamesprayer a priority
>kill BSB
>go through chalice dungeons until you reach either Central or Lower Pthumeru
>farm the flaming Pthumerians for cursed fire radials
>slap 'em on your spear
>wreck everything
>grab waning fire gem from the Cathedral Ward
>slap it on your spear for even more FIREpower
>grab the triangular arcane gem from the forbidden woods
>slap it on the cane and keep it as a backup weapon
>destroy the entire game with your godspear

Postgame:

>complete dungeons until you're able to make one frc dungeon
>grab a radial-triangle-waning version of the saw spear so you can pimp it up with a 27% triangular fire gem from the Isz Watchers
>optional: beat up bone ash hunters with high insight and weep as they refuse to drop decent arcane radials that you really need for your cane
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>>122728407
Screenshotting this, thanks man. This'll be fun. Rough stats? I guess 25-50 into arc since it's your primary?
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>>122728407

By the way, if you're not afraid of having low VIT, or are not concerned with your level, you might just want to consider going 99 ARC. Hunter tools scale all the way up to 70 ARC, but even going to 99 ARC makes a big difference in damage output. It kinda limits the weapons you can use, too, but I personally didn't mind that.
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>>122727481
What's BB' scaling at +8 if you mind checking, go look at BoM too.
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>>122726529
For now, ludwig's or kirkhammer, straightsword
For armor, pick a set from the game and find it's closest equivalent
Use items and tools to mimic the effects of spells and alchemical items
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>>122728764
That costs chunks, I don't have a skill character, and if you or anyone else wants to check keep in mind that all the DLC characters had 15% gems. Not sure if the bowblade had nourishing, or physical.
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>>122728764
Not him, but if it's the letter you're asking for then BB and BoM have C at +8, get B scaling at +9.
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>>122728696

It's often said, but it's very true concerning ARC: Either go 15 for some utility, or go 50 for the hardcap. The offensive tools like Executioner's Gloves are shitty at 25 ARC, and you can't even utilize ACB-- the best spell!

Anyway, a rough estimate of stats is going to depend on the level you want to stay at.
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>>122729020
And the Bowblade has a C at +8 which was what I was pointing out, there's a extremely high chance it turns B at 9 and with 90+ base arcane that isn't crap scaling. The demo build had 3 15% physical gems btw.
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Are those... nails sticking out of the Cleric Beast's leg?
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>>122729267
Well, If it's just pve funski, I'll level anytime for no good reason.
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>>122729267
There are no hardcaps in this game, only major softcaps. And those only apply to weapons.

The offensive tools don't actually softcap at 50, and have their own unique caps. ACB, for example, doesn't slow down on scaling until at least 70, and continues to get acceptable damage gains up to 99. Most people complain about arcane tools not doing enough damage for their bullet cost, but that's because they're trying to use them at only 40 or 50 - the equivalent of using a weapon at base equip stats.
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>>122729327
Ay mang, I don't have a horse in this race. I just saw someone asking for info and gave it.
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>>122729986
>There are no hardcaps

Every stat hardcaps at 99.

Also I think a couple secondary stats hardcap... doesn't item discovery hardcap at 50 Arcane?
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>>122730136
Okay, yes, all stats hardcap at 99. I was trying to answer in the context of the question.

Item discovery does hardcap at 50 arcane, though. I'm not aware of any others that do.
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>>122729508

Then go for 50 VIT and 99 ARC. Your weapons won't get much stronger past 50 ARC, but your tools will. If you want to use a weapon like the Kirkhammer, which has decent ARC scaling, then just level your STR/SKL accordingly.
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>>122729327
BB/BoM have 0.69 arcane scaling at +10. Assuming the Bowblade is the same (it probably does; BoM and BB have C scaling at +8, and presumably all Siderite weapons would have the same scaling), and has 100 base Arcane damage at +10 (which 90 at +8 implies; BoM/BB have 54 at +8, which is 90% of their max of 60), that means that at 50 Arcane, a +10 Bow Blade would have 100 + 59 Arcane damage. 11-25 it would gain ~2 Arcane AR per stat point spent. It might work OK with Nourishing gems.
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>>122730271
Sorry if that came off as snarky or condescending. It's just that with how "hardcap" gets used erroneously in Bloodborne discussions, it seems like stating the obvious "stats hardcap at 99" might actually be new info to some people.
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>>122730963
I wasn't who you were responding to there, just commenting on your apology and approach.

I think you used a normal casual level of 4chan snark, not enough to dent a proper channer's armor, but enough to deter those avoiding confrontation and to set your position.

I've experienced your situation for years before a place like 4chan was popular trying to explain shit about games like Diablo II, of which I made and contributed to maphacks and anti-detection code.

Just gets so frustrating how much faster bad information propagates than good info. It is like because it is easier to understand because it was formed by simple minds, it spreads to and sticks to people better.
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>>122728407
Wouldn’t farming the 2 brainsuckers on that lever room in that other glyph for +flat ARC be better instead of the arc radials that the bone ash hunter drops? I ask this because I’m really really lazy at CD and from the sounds of things, I might die of laziness if I try to farm the arc radials. Unless of course they are much better than flat arc gems… (?)
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>>122727591
Ah I see, thanks for the explanation.

The stats there that may seem unnecessary (15 skl instead of 14, 15 end) are mostly because autism and wanting clean numbers, but in the case of END, I really dunno where to put those 5 points where it'll make a difference.

More Vit, maybe?
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Where can I do some level 30ish PvP? I just want to dick around and invade someone.
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>>122731606
not him, but my chikage build is:
45/9/10/25/50/9 at 98 with noble scion as the starter. This spread gives me enough vit and skl to use the chikage 1h'moveset instead of just relying on 2h.
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>>122731968
Central Yharnam, Cathedral Ward (make sure you open the gates with the emblem or go through BSB>Hunters Workshop>Lower Cathedral>Cathedral Ward Elevator to activate online co-op/pvp), Old Yharnam, Forest, Burgerworth.
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>>122732157
Ah, ok I had to open both gates thanks. Also fuck I had a password on shit, deleted that so hopefully that helps.
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>>122731475
Going for +flat arc is OK, but not ideal. I mean, you CAN get +9.1%arc/+67.5arc from a Pthumeru brainsucker, and those are the best arcane gems for some weapons, but it is outlandishly rare. It's better to get a +23.1% gem. Note that getting a +23.1% arcane gem is not THAT rare, it's getting it with a secondary +flat arcane and an acceptable curse that's such a hassle. 23.1/15's are far less rare than 9.1/67.5's and are only marginally worse. That being said, if you have to choose between a 23.1% and a +67.5, you're probably better off with a 23.1. I'm too lazy to do the math on that, though. If you really don't give a fuck, getting +67.5's will be the easiest.
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>>122717154
H.U.N.K. from the Resident Evil series.
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>>122731968
Keep in mind a person can't be invaded unless they're level 30, so level 43 is the optimal twink build
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>>122732550

Thanks arcbro, I’ll eventually get enough determination to sit down for an hour and grind out those friggin arc radials
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>Finally get summoned for srrc
>Host dies to defiled hotdogs charge in the first 10 seconds
Atleast they didn't die to a mob on the way this time but still
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>>122733004
>people still don’t know about the hotdogs charge at the start of every fight
>mfw phantoms getting instagibbed as soon as they step through the door because they forget

It was funny the first few times, now I’m shaking my head everytime to be quite honest family
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>>122733004
>Using SRRC
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>>122732124
Thanks man. I was thinking about doing a 25/50 like that too for the versatility, as you said. Looks awesome. I've never played any build with under 15 END, so it's kind of intimidating.

Still got a few days, think I'll give them a go and see for myself.
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how do you get protein stains out of doll clothing?
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>>122733381
Use a Bold Hunter's Mark.
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>>122733291
no prob, honestly its not that bad. I used the saw spear and rifle spear until I got the chikage. Going thru the game made me really appreciate the saw spear's transformation attack due to its guard break abilities.
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>>122733156

Because I love running around for five minutes trying to find the host until he eventually hits the boss fog and nulls the invasion anyway.
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>Tesla mace on my Arcane build that's level 32
>all this stupid amounts of damage on all enemies
>PvP ended in 2 hits

The only problem is the durability seems much faster than other weapons but holy shit. I love this thing now. Am I as retarded as I always am, or do Bolt damage runes work good on it?
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Forget about weapons, what hunter's tools do you want to see in the oh so close yet oh so far expansion?
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>>122734527
One that doesn't have a 9 hour cast time and shit tracking
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>>122734527
A tentacle grab attack/ground summon that surrounds and defends a point. Make you a crazy Old One slug fisting wizard.
and also so I can commit tentacle rape on my tender fuccboi hunter any time I want!
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>>122734527
some aoe bullshit that inflicts frenzy
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>>122734527
Since most tools are based on the bosses, gloves:logarius, ACB:BriBri and now Blacksky Eye:Rom. Maybe something from MP or Amy like her lasers
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>>122734820
>ACB
>not the tool literally called "Augur of Ebrietas"
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>>122734820
>Amy like her lasers
>Basically Bloodborne's version of white dragon's breath
from pls
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What if they add logarius' sword as a new tool?
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>>122734386
tonitrus damage is actually pretty complicated. you may not have noticed, but the trick mode gets a HUGE bonus if you have full health (wheel has the opposite, a low health bonus when tricked)

bolt gems are OK but the best gems are +%all
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>>122734956
yeah after typing that, totally forgot about the augur, to be fair though BriBri does casts ACB
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>>122734386

If you're arc, bolt is what you want. Without the buff on it it's more of a strength weapon, but when you buff it the arc scaling jumps to S rank and gets a multiplier and a straight numeric buff. Suffice to say, the bolt jumps up way past what the stat sheet suggests, and that's the damage your Arcane stat is bolstering.

Just make sure to keep it buffed all the time.

>>122734527

I'm honestly not looking forward to that eye-rocket. I assume it has a pretty low bullet cost, probably just 1, which makes the whole item a little too close to Soul Arrow for my liking. Soul Arrow is the kind of boring magic that I liked not having in BB.

I'd like an Amy laser though. Call it the Miniature Tonsil Stone or something. Make it a beam that goes from in front of you up, and let the caster move around while it casts so that you can freeaim the beam wherever you want.
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Where should I take my build from here? I want to do Arc for sure but don't know what else to go with.

vit 25
end 14
str 10
skl 9
blt 5
arc 25

Is the Wheel a good choice or will I just be a filthy memer?
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>Defiled chalice with a twink build
Oh god no
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>>122735089
>the trick mode gets a HUGE bonus if you have full health (wheel has the opposite, a low health bonus when tricked)

The listed AR on your stat screen increases, but the damage you actually deal doesn't change at all. Disappointing, really.
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>>122735148
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>>122735089
Damn I had no idea, but that does explain some of it. I pumped back to full before the invasion and I can knock out the Burlap sack Snatchers in like two hits if I start fresh.
>>122735316
Must be it then, I think I have like 30 arcane or something stupid at level 32. I'm trying to get arcane high up there early on while it's cheap and then sit on this character till the DLC comes out. Since I want to know what the Moonlight sword will require and work from there. Good to know that the tonitrus is basically working in my favor pretty well, feeding off my big stat and not caring about my lower ones. And yeah I like flicking the buff on, sorta fun habit almost. It is cool to also pop it on with a dash transform attack. Thanks though for explaining it. I platinumed this game but I know jack shit about its mechanics.
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>>122735148
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Does anybody know off the top of their heads what a top +flat secondary from an Abhorrent Beast abyssal gem drop is? I know it's around 30, but I forget the exact number.
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>>122735491

If you want to do Arcwheel you better decide right now, it's a very specific kind of build, and the str/skl requirements will eat up a lot of otherwise useless points.

If you want to just do general arc, you really don't need to level anything other than Arc and Vit. You can already use a lot of the weapons that are good for it like Saw Spear and Threaded Cane. Or even Hunter's Axe. Plus, you can expend those saved points going to 50+ arc; your tools don't hit DR until 70.

Generally the only reason to go over starting str/skl for Arc is to use Wheel, LHB or maybe Kirk. Although that might change in the DLC, depending on what requirements the MLGS ends up having.

But it is worth noting that wheelin' and dealin' is really, really good. It just gets really samey if you're not a str/arc build and therefore can only use the tricked multi-hit dash attacks and R2.

My general advice would be wait a few days for the DLC to drop and then make your choices.
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>>122735929
>>122735691
>o-others don't think that Amy is a female!
>b-better make it look like a joke and that h-he's only autistic!

good lord you lonely nerds in a serious need, seeing every moving thing as a female no matter is it humanoid or not
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>>122736254

Actually I think people get the idea because we all call it "Amy" for short, and Amy is a girl's name.
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>>122736254
Actually it wasn't the argument, which you could hardly call it that since it consisted of one word, but the rest of the post that leads me to believe the person had some kind of moment. They realized they were a newtype. Their autism powers overwhelmed us all, my jaw was agape with the surealty of it.
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>>122736186
>wheelin' and dealin'
That sounds like something I'd be into. Sounds like something cool guys do.

Then again, the MLGS is pretty baller too.
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>>122736512

It might not be in this game though. We'll know in a week or so is all I'm sayin'.
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>>122732663
I give you a 7/hunk. Could be higher but it's hard to look operator in this game
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>>122736612
It was already confirmed mi familia, pictures and all
The sword ludwig used is the MLGS, ludwigs holy blade was a replica for his followers
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>>122736665

No, I mean it might not be awesome. It might be shit.
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>>122728070
You'll notice sponginess as soon as you jump into NG+. Townsfolk get 1000+ hp and cleric beast goes over 10k hp but by the time you get to mid game (around the time you go to the forest) the game starts to even out and it pretty much stays the same through the other cycles
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>>122736964
Yeah ng+ caught me off guard first time when the first few areas had like a 10x multiplier on their health and damage, I thought the whole ng+ was gonna unbalanced as fuck
Turns out they just beef up the early areas to get them on par with the end game areas so you don't just one shot everything anyway like early ng+ on DaS
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>>122736630
Indeed, I'm hoping the DLC might add SOMETHING to help. But I'm not betting on it.

Either way, beating the game with the starter guns, BoM and consumables only was a lot of fun.
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>>122734527
A few more alien slug tools of course, gotta keep those Choir boys happy. But I mostly want to see more of Izzy's tools hinted at in Beast Roar's description. I'd like to see beast magic such as darkbeast bolt buffs or the fireballs from these guys and beast-possessed soul.
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>hanging around nightmare of mensis, waiting for people to ring their bells and come get me
>first two go down quickly
>one just hides for a literal half hour
>no one wants to make contact with me
>sinister bell has found another
>oh boy oh boy, a fight!
>guy in a dress with no weapon
>keeps trying to get me to go back up to the frenzy area
>toss a few skulls at him
>heals constantly
>just go R1 him for a bit
>heal heal heal :^)
>pulls out his weapon finally
>it's a fucking ludwigs
>chugs led elixir
>I wait it out
>he heals again

I love Bloodborne PVP :^)
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Doubt it'll happen but I hope they add in an alternate final boss ala Das2's update with Aldia.
>Get the item in the dlc
>instead of eating the cords using the new item
>After that fight finishes, instead of ending, it restores Gerhman to his prime and you have to fight him, bullshit difficulty included for the new ending
That or fighting the doll somehow in her winter lantern form
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>>122738729
That's the most stupid idea I've ever heard, even in /vg/
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>trying out 9+ beast claw with chalice gems
>there's a glimmer of viability

beast mode can't come soon enough
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>>122738872
Beast Claws are plenty viable. People who say otherwise are being extremely silly. They're far more usable than Stake Driver or Tonitrus. They're just a STR based BoM. It's not hard to use them. Button mash instead of spamming dash hits. Beast Roar lots. Backstep R2 dabest.
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>>122738796
thanks :^)
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>>122736964
Sorry, I meant I took the Shadow of Yharnam on in NG+. So I've already seen the terrifying Townsfolk who eat +10 weapons fore breakfast. I was just wondering the specifics of the health boosts tapering off. But now that I think about it, it was calming down in the deeper parts of the woods. Hopefully the eyebugs aren't too ridiculous at Burgerworth
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>>122738872
How viable will beast claws be for me if I have a 25 str/50 skill build?
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>>122738872

>guy tries to escape
>gets caught on all the tombstones/rocks so you can easily r1 him down
>See guys, they're viable!

come on now
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>>122738872
The main problems with them are the short range and the weird moveset when tricked. The one handed moveset is actually pretty decent, but requires you to work around the short range. The trick moveset can't deal with people who play pokes and keep away, and its L2 isn't as good of a ranged attack as some people would like to think.

Honestly, the best tools the weapon has are one-handed R1 spam catching people who don't know about its perfect pivot tracking, and the trick mode R1 spam eating people alive when they get stuck in a corner. That's it.
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>>122738872
Ummm? Did you just take down more than half his health in less than 30 seconds?

That's pretty fucking broken. Beast claws really need a nerf, it's insane how people abuse that kind of weapon. Chikage and Ludwigs are incredibly skillful weapons that require precise players. The fact that someone can just mindlessly mash to win with the claws...
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>>122739136
Look and see.
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>>122736049
Anybody? There was an image with some guy's gems posted the other day, it had an Abhorrent Beast bolt gem in it IIRC. They max a 22.5% primary, but have a higher secondary than 24.8% gems dropped by Camerabeast.
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>>122738872
Everyone weapon is viable if you use it right anon

Still looking forward to that beast mode though
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>>122739424
>infinitely superior visceral damage
>only losing out on 20-ish AR
SKL biased Quality is the way to go.
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>>122739298
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>>122738636
I'd laugh the whole time. The only difference in me laughing and having fun vs him and you suffering is psychological. Instead of being dissatisfied this isn't an epic match for me, I'm laughing my balls off at all the odds he has to stack against me just to pat himself on the back if he wins, and since all of his strategies require him to have you in a place or during a consumable you can wait him out elsewhere happily.
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What the fuck is a quality build? I never understood what it was.
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>>122739424
>>122739473
>tfw STR build scales with wheel, axe, kirk, claw, cleaver, pizza, and memer

SKLfags are missing out
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>>122739689
In DeS you could upgrade your weapon to be "Quality" and it would make it have balanced STR/DEX scaling. From then on, balanced STR+DEX type builds have been called "Quality".

Got it? Good.
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>>122739518
>shooting at all with claws
You are no beast, you're merely pretending.
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>>122739689
In Demon's Souls you had 3 major upgrade paths. A str path (Crushing), a dex path (sharp), and both split instead of one high (quality).

http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/upgrade-quality
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>>122739763
>missing out on half the moveset
>not keeping your enemy on his toes
Don't be a simpleton. Be more than just a feral monster. Showering yourself in his entrails and fluids with a visceral is the most beastly thing you can do.
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>>122739752
>plus cannon and gatling fun
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>>122739454
mine has 33.8 but i don't think it's perfect, it's not abyssal
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>>122739863
>such. halting. speech
I'm sure it would be, except you have to stop being a beast to do it.
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>>122739863
I hope it's possible to parry someone, transform, and then visceral them.
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Post PvP themes!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxLB70G-tRY
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>>122739518
Anyone know the breakpoints for visceral scaling?

>>122739982
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxcM3nCsglA
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>>122739424
Fuck, now I have to make a whole new character.

Well at least I will have a Wheel build.
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>>122739960
>except you have to stop being a beast to do it.
Yes and until we get beastmode and the possible moveset overhaul, it's your best way to make up for the shortcomings.

I imagine that beastmode will give you an incentive to stay in beast mode for claws or even just offer an entirely different moveset and trick function while you're transformed. Imagine it. the claws work as they do now until you trigger the transformation. After changing, L1 no longer alters your weapon's shape but instead changes your moveset. Maybe even an all-fours vs standing upright kind of tradeoff.

>>122739979
Probably would be easiest with Galasha's Fist. You'd have to be close enough to have the time to transform before visceraling.

>>122740084
I heard that nothing concrete had been figured out yet. That the relationship between Blood Level, Weapon Damage and SKL hadn't been figured out.
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Why cannon so broke? Why is it such a piece of metal shit? Why can I use it less now?
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>>122739982
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-u-ISaOfS4

Now that I'm making a Reiterpallasch build, I need a new theme for that build. This one is for my Shotgun+Stakedriver build.
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>>122739942
Ok, thanks. +flat secondary usually ignores the rank of your gem. E.G. a rank 17 +flat arc triangle gem maxes at 72.5, but so does a rank 19. It's just that 17 will have 9.1%, while 19 will have 9.8%.
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>>122739752
It's like from saw all the complaints about strength builds being useless in Dark Souls and went the completely opposite direction with Bloodborne.

"Skill was a mistake" - Miyazaki
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>>122740428
Hm...let me....let me try this

"Skill was a mistake" - Miyamoto

THIS EXPLAINS EVERYTHING
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>>122740428
idk why they don't just look back to their DeS weapon design. STR/DEX was perfectly balanced in both PvE and PvP back then.
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>>122740428
Yeah but then they still just wank themselves silly over GRORIOUS KATANA BATHED IN BLOOD SEPPUKU FUELED COMBAT IS GREATEST
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>>122740632
Not perfectly balanced for PvP, although DBS was great. the main advantage for PvE was that some of the best STR weapons had hyper armor
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>>122740894
But the Chikago isn't even a top-tier weapon, more mid-tier than anything.
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>>122740931
>Not perfectly balanced for PvP

IMO neither Strength nor Dexterity really had an advantage on the whole in PvP. Dex arguably had the strongest weapon in the game with Estoc, but both builds had weapons pretty evenly distributed along the power curve. Heavy weapons (DBS and GAxe, namely) were also very good.
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>>122740931
>some of the best STR weapons had hyper armor
I haven't palyed the network but good god hearing about battle arts integrating hyper armor for some weapons again
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>>122731475
>>122732817
I wouldn't recommend farming r67m7z6i (the one with two brainsuckers in the lever room) for ARC%+Flat ARC. I killed around 1300 of them in that glyph and did not get a single one. In 8y2wes5u I got two in under 200 runs.

Maybe it was just bad luck but I personally don't think so. The same enemies seem to be able to drop different gems from chalice to chalice, even if they're both FRC Ihyll - e.g. the bone ash hunters.
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>>122740314
Cannon sucks m8
Get a fucking repeater
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If you were to guess, what would you figure the MLGS stat scaling and req to be?
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>>122743014
30 ARC
15 SKL or STR
A arcane, B everything else
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>>122743014
Arcane/str with actual arcane scaling built in.
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theres another ketana game
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>>122714184
Same dude who posted magnolia about 10 threads ago and I was like MY NIGGA?
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>16 str
>12 dex
>18 blt
>18 arc
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About 24 hours from now the patch will hit

Are the notes up yet?
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>mass asspain over Fallout 4 spoilers
>tfw no one will ever spoil a souls game pre release
>they can't figure it out fast enough
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>>122739752
I'll feel absolutely fine whooping your clumsy STR ass with my cane.
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>>122743014
In DS1 it was 16/10/28 str/dex/int
In DS2 it was 18/18/18 str/dex/int
Ludwig's Holy Blade 16/12 str/skl

Just going off all those numbers I'm gonna assume it's certainly going to need at least 16 str, dex will be somewhere 10-12, and int will probably be close to 30
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>>122745378
>close to 30

At most maybe 25 but thats pushing it.
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So that "the night brims with defiled scum" narration from the trailer seems to be Buckethead/Valtr? It seems like the same voice at least.
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>>122745587
I'd say 25 is close to thirty, when I say close to I mean about a 5 point variation.
Though you're right, when I go back and look at it the general trend of BB weapons is they're not overly stat demanding, the most being the wheel with a str requirement of 20, so 20 would probably be a more reasonable number for the arc requirement.
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>>122745931
I will give you that as far as numbers go 25 is near 30, but in game stats are pretty tight so an extra 5 would be hefty unless of course youre some lvl 120 retard.
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>>122743097
>made a 25/50 STR/ARC wheel build ages ago
>already have perfect gems
looking forward to day 1 MLGS build
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>>122746076
Keep in mind people were actually arguing that 150 should be the meta.
Fuckin' reddit, tis a wicked place.
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>>122746640
That sounds pretty awful, why would anyone want duels between health tanks?
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>>122746891
They also arrange no gem/healing allowed FC's at that level.
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Every time
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ARC build is hella strong. This tricked toni is hitting like a truck
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>>122746974
The range on some of the spider attacks are goddamn ridiculous.
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>>122746974

I love to run up to that chest with evry character and wonder if I'm going to make it out alive
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Alright folks, I've done the math, and here are the best gem combinations for Arcane builds, NOT including off-shape drops:

Arcane:
At <=278 AR, use 2x 9.1/67.5 and a 9.8/72.5
At >278 AR and <= 412 AR, use 2x 23.1/15 and a 24.8/15
At >412 AR, use 2x 23.1/15 and a 27.2/0 (All RRT)
Ideal Curses: +%Stamina, -% vs. Kin

Bolt:
At <=242 AR, use 2x 23.1/15 and a 22.5/33.8 (RRW)
At >242 AR and <= 522 AR, use 23.1/15, 27.2/0, and 22.5/33.8 (Lost)
At >522 AR, use 23.1/15, 27.2/0, and 24.8/15 (Lost)
Ideal Curses: +%Stamina, -% vs. Beast

Fire:
At <=214 AR, use 2x 24.8/15 and a 9.1/67.5 (RRW)
At >214 AR and <= 401 AR, use 3x 24.8/15 (RRW)
At >401 AR, use 2x 24.8/15 and a 27.2/0 (RRT or Lost)
Ideal Curses: +%Stamina

If you don't care about element:
At <=255 AR, use 2x 9.1/67.5 and a 9.8/72.5 (RRT; Arcane)
At >255 AR and <= 401 AR, use 3x 24.8/15 (RRW; Fire)
At >401 AR, use 2x 24.8/15 and a 27.2/0 (RRT or Lost; Fire)
Ideal Curses: +%Stamina, -% vs. Kin (<=255 AR only)

The AR values listed here are ungemmed and AFTER factoring in the attack multiplier (check the guide for attack multipliers: justsomefaggot.imgur.com). Listed curses are for PvE. Obviously if you're building for PvP, any mix of -%kin or beast is ideal.

Gem locations:
9.1/67.5 Arcane Radial — Brainsucker in 8y2wes5u
9.8/72.5 Arcane Triangle — Brainsucker boss in huy83p9r
23.1/15 Arcane Radial — Keeper NPC in cb7jig9p
24.8/15 Arcane Triangle — Ebrietas in e2ts7vub
27.2/0 Arcane Triangle — Watchers in 5pwujscd
23.1/15 Bolt Radial — Keeper NPC in cb7jig9p
22.5/33.8 Bolt Waning — Abhorrent Beast in sjqsepqh OR r6t2n466
27.2/0 Bolt Triangle — Watchers in 5pwujscd
24.8/15 Bolt Waning — Darkbeast in azsysju9
24.8/15 Fire Radial — Watchdog in 7vvid666
9.1/67.5 Fire Waning — Loran Cleric(?) in wtxu2x2p
24.8 Fire Waning — Watchdog in 758v8txa
27.2/0 Fire Triangle — Watchers in 5pwujscd

For more info: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/
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>>122717154
not game but I tried makind madoka and im going for a bloodtinge build for the dlc for the bowblade.

its not as fun as I thought
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>>122746974
>flying colander at the end
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What would fucking Paarl feel like? Would it just be kind of tingly like a joy buzzer or full on painful like pressing your dick against a defibrillator?
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>>122747690

It would feel terrible because Paarl is a terrible fight of course
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>>122747690
PAARL IS A SKELETON ffs
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>He doesn't fucking skeletons
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>that chest
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>>122739689
>>122739760

It is kinda silly when you think about it. We call it "quality," even though that name comes from a sub-par upgrade path for weapons in the oldest and least played Souls game. And in spite of the fact that saying str/skl or skl/str would be more straightforward, economical and informative for BB, where quality builds tend to be 50/25 or 25/50 rather than an even split.

That's tradition for ya, though.
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>>122748256
>those fluffy doll eye lashes

Doll is cute! CUTE!
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Anyone mind helping me with story Paarl? I'm just rushing to clear story so I can get into CD and rush to my beast claws, and my goal is to clear story tonight, but I'm running into a brick wall here. Can't get anyone (maybe because I'm very very underleveled) and I'm getting him to about 50% before my tired starts getting to me.

I'm right at his fog gate, password bbg2
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>>122748654
But Paarl is completely optional, there's literally no reason to fight him besides being able to buy bolt paper
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>>122748726
Kind of an OCD thing, I always befriend Djura and do BSB/Witches before Amelia.
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>>122748752
gotchu
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>>122748726
>being able to by the best paper
>no reason
C'mon now.
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>>122748006
>doesn't fucking skeletons
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>>122748752

Wait, what triggers the bagmen? I tought they appear after Amelia when the night comes?
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>>122747520
Lazy edition (no difficult-to-get secondary effects):

Arcane:
At <=238 AR, use 67.5 and 9.8/72.5
At >238 AR and <= 274 AR, use 23.1 and 9.8/72.5
At >274 AR, use 23.1 and 27.2 (All RRT)

Bolt:
Use 23.1, 27.2, and 24.8 (Lost)

Fire:
At <=171 AR, use 24.8, 27.2, and 67.5 (Lost)
At >171 AR, use 24.8 and 27.2 (RRT or Lost)

If you don't care about element:
At <=234 AR, use 67.5 and 9.8/72.5 (RRT)
At >234 AR, use 24.8 and 27.2 (RRT or Lost)
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Mysterious Wheelman, thanks for putting the pedal to the metal upon his face. That is the single fastest I've ever seen paarl go down.

>>122749215
The crows are there after Gascoigne, but after I kill BSB (first thing I do after Gassy), there's a kidnapper outside of chapel the same exit that eileen comes by.
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Do I want the uncanny or lost Wheel?
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>>122749302
For max Physical or Blunt damage or for strongest multi-hit attacks, Uncanny. For Nourishing, Lost.
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>tfw you fisted a boars ass for the first time
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>>122749439
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>>122749215
Killing BSB triggers the bagmen. Opening all Cathedral Ward gates ( the big ones with the levers) triggers Eileen. So if you buy the Hunter Chief Emblem but don't kill BSB you'll never get to Yahahaharrrrr before Rom.
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>>122749390
So Nourishing for an arc build
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>>122749439
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>>122749774

Nourishing is for an str/arc build. For an arc build you want to use +flat arc gems to cheese those multihit attacks.
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>>122747520
>>122749254
thanks, but what do you mean by
>At >522 AR, use 23.1/15, 27.2/0, and 24.8/15 (Lost)

Where's that 522 coming from?
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>>122750137
It means if your ungemmed attack rating is higher than 522, you should use that combination of gems. 522 ungemmed is the point where the higher % bonuses outweigh the +flat bonuses that you lose. You'd only be able to get 522 ungemmed AR with an attack that has a very high multiplier, like maybe a tricked Ludwig's charged R2.
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>>122750274
I'm at work and about to drive home, so if you have any further questions, I'll be able to answer them in ~20 minutes.
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>run CD from very first Pthumerian to Defiled Amy and Ihyll

That's as much as I can do in one sitting, fuck me chalice dungeons take it out of me after the 10th time can't wait to do them all over again with the DLC
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>>122749215
Hitting the bagman a few times seems to trigger him
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>>122750504
At least it will be funnier with DLC toys.
Hell, i think that bowblade is going to fucking rape chalices as no boss has proper counters against ranged cheesing aside from HMPH maybe who is always in your face.
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>>122749439
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>>122750274
I think I'll stick to abhorrent's wanings then, thanks
these are some good numbers though, good on you for putting this together
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>>122749886
Dammit, I don't want to screw this build up.

Which Wheel build is the 'best' between Arc and arc/str
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>>122750603

It'll at least make Amy easier on my skill build. That boss only gets annoying when you don't have access to any good ranged damage.
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>>122750797

I do BSB into Hemwick and leave Amelia till last, that way Ive got plenty of items, oil urns and fire paper which rekts her pretty quickly.
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>>122749439
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guise guise I bet moonlight sword will go with an arc/wheel build %100
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Never seen this happen yet before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2YHCYdk_EY
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>>122750956

>memewheel users transitioning into the memeblade 2.0

nice meme
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>>122748256
It's cute that we still call it quality.

I'm glad it stuck around.
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Dies somebody have a download link for a .PDF version of the guide?
Don't want to save every picture manually on my tablet from the OP.
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>>122751002
spotted the vileblood
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>>122750983

dude lag lmao
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>>122749439
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>Flat Arc Wheel is nerfed
>/bbg/ and the internet at large flooded by a tsunami of bitch tears because their build is garbage now
I can't wait
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>>122751696
where'd you hear that
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>>122751781
Common fucking sense. It's stupid fucking good. Easily the cheesiest nonsense in the game right now.
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>>122751838
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>>122751696
It wouldn't really make sense to nerf it, but okay. They would have to change a specific way one attack works.

The tradeoff for that build is you are going to do pretty bad damage with your viscerals unless you are super high level, so if your opponent parries you it's over.

>>122751781
It's just dumb, blind speculation on his part.

>>122751838
>cheesiest nonsense

Right. When BMA Repeating Pistols exist.
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>>122751696
>internet at large

You know that hardly anybody uses Wheel, let alone Wheel with flat ARC gems? What the fuck are you talking about? If it got nerfed I would pump my build from 98 up to 148 and do the same thing except have more innate defense.
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>>122750716
wheel is really complicated

in 1h mode it has much better STR than ARC scaling. in 2h mode they are much closer, with the STR only marginally better than the ARC. so in call cases 25 STR > 25 ARC, but for 1h mode 50 STR > 25 ARC, whereas for 2h mode you should get 25 ARC before leveling STR past 25. in 1h mode the damage is mostly physical and so blunt gems are best. in 2h mode the damage is split 50/50 so nourishing gems are best.

in addition, the 2h mode's multi-hit attacks proc multiple hits of +flat damage gems, so +flat gems let you do great damage with "odd stats." generally there are 3 builds:
50STR/minimum ARC, for 1h (use blunt)
50STR/25+ARC for 2h (use nourishing)
20STR/50 ARC for hunter's tools (use +flat arcane)

you might want to hold out at low stats, like 20/20, until we see what's in the friday patch
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>>122751905
>BMA Repeating Pistols exist.
That's not cheese. Flat Arc Wheel gets INCREDIBLE damage really really quickly, easily and safely. Flat Arc Wheel is like a BMA Repeater without QSB or BMA requirements that also has to dodge constantly to be effective.

Flat Arc Wheel is silly. Fromsoft will nerf it, but it won't become ruined. It'll just stop shitting out 800+ damage hits so easily.

>>122751993
>If it got nerfed I would pump my build from 98 up to 148
Have fun playing in the shitter matchmaking pools with all the wacko stat stacking dumbasses.
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>>122751993
>Not just doing that already and invading 150 chalice co-op teams who can twoshot you right back
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Just started using chalice dungeons, but I want in on the MP action
Is there a list on good gem hunting and populated chalice dungeons?
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>>122751048
Nobody?
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>>122752047
>It'll just stop shitting out 800+ damage

Spotted the fucking retard who has never even used it before. The most it will ever do is 600, on people with incredibly low arcane defense.
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>>122752047
personally they can nerf my wheel if they fix magic reiterpallasch
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>>122752116
>he most it will ever do is 600, on people with incredibly low arcane defense.
I've seen builds at fightclubs and in the wilds of Mensis that hit for 800. Not to mention how wonky is can be to parry a wheel when there's even a little latency going on.
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>>122752076

Do you want to pvp in chalice dungeons or in the game world?

The OP has links for where to find all the best gems, runes and items you might require as well as guides on how to do it as quickly as possible.
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>>122752076
fextralife wiki has "recommend glyphs" for storyline dungeons and people actually use them. i keep their defiled glyph open because a huge chunk of my SRRC comes from there
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>>122752165
So you are telling me that you know better than myself, who has 140 hours on my wheel build? I have never hit over ~620.
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>>122752220
Then your build isn't as strong as it could be. Maybe you're doing something wrong. I've seen it.
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>>122752241
I don't believe you, faggot.
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>>122752165
i think to hit for 800 wheel you'd have to be 50/50. that's doable around 120

i've tested nourishing at 50/50 and it was better than flat at those stats IIRC
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Gimme some good beats to listen to while blood boning.
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>>122752329
I'm not trying to start a fight bro. I'm just telling you my experience. I have faced some DIRTY wheel builds that didn't feel terribly fair. Losing 70% of my HP to a dash attack is some rough stuff.

>>122752331
Must have been something like that.
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>>122752174
Thanks!!!
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>>122752329
20/50 is the lowest damage wheel build (but i think it's the best because you get tools). you would do more with 50/20, and with +%blunt/+flat or +%all/+flat gems

i don't think you could break 800 on players at 98 though
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>>122752451
But I could be matched with 120s on my 98. that might be what the situation is.
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>>122752406
You know that if they nerfed how flat ARC gems functioned, that would only affect lower level builds? I could level up to 148 and use nourishing, level my STR up to 50 and have even more HP and damage.

Fine by me.

>>122752483
You can match all the way up to 148.
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>>122752116
>mfw switching to choir set if against a wheel baby which coupled with my defense rune gives me like 350 arc protection
>mfw he does 400 damage at best and i can trade against him with my blunt ludwig for 700 per hit
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>>122752406
fundamentally wheel hits like a fucking truck, +flat is just one way to do it. if they nerf +flat you will still see wheel builds breaking 600+. i don't want to see them nerf flat because DESU the proc shit on wheel is one of the only halfway interesting things gems can do. rapid poison wheel is fun

i did a lot to get this build rolling in the early days
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>>122752549
yeah, STR builds should carry Captain Kirk and ARC builds should carry literally anything to deal with this

honestly i like captain kirk's moveset more than wheel, but i like having both even more
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You know that the only place I have ever heard people complain about Wheel is here?

Literally nowhere else does anybody talk about it, not on Twitch, not on Reddit, nowhere else but here.

I have even brought it up on a few streams how powerful I think it is and am immediately shot down by people saying it's easy to parry.
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>>122752610

I have a 50str which uses both kirk and wheel (wheel is all blunt gems) and even in tricked mode, the wheel does great damage but I try to use the 1h moveset more because people aren't used to it I've found.
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>>122752483
at 98 you're well within the range of 50/50 builds for any stat

honestly 50/50 STR/SKL saws is 100x more broken than wheel
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>>122752691
It's used by japs frequently. They don't bitch about equipment though.
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>>122752750
This is why I don't understand the whining about Wheel.

There are much shittier things in this game to be matched against.
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>>122752691
Thats because /bbg/ is full of casuals and autists
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>>122752691
i just assume everyone is insanely bad until they prove otherwise
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>>122752691
>>122752850
to be clear the "easy to parry" thing is not real. it's easy to parry if you dash N times like a robot and then attack. but the only way to catch that is by prediction, and if they predict wrong then you end up dashing through the shot and hitting them

the actual counter to wheel is catching the rolls with the L1 of a fast weapon like saw or reiter
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>>122752691
>it's easy to parry.

In this game nothing's reliable to parry, and you need reliability when you've two or three chances max to parry or die.
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>>122753005
Yeah if your using the faghot fightclub rules of no healing
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>>122752952
>catching the rolls

What if they use OHB? I just normally keep avoiding them until it wears off and pray for a parry. I'd agree that people who say that parry beats it is plain wrong, it will either trade because lag or they can simply dodge again and be on your dick and will probably catch you mid roll yourself when you try to get away.

tl;dr how the fuck do i fite wheels
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>>122753057
With chocks
:^)
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>>122752952
>>122752952
Nah, I am honestly starting to agree with the parry thing.

If somebody is good at healing, they will always get that heal off no matter how good I am at chasing them down with Wheel, and I have gotten quite good at it. All it takes in one dash attack whiff and that's a free heal on their part, and they can react to the whiff. They can attempt to parry you over and over and heal off the damage, and if they get you with one parry it's over. I am not saying I get parried often, it hardly ever happens because most people are shit, but against a decent player I have to watch out for it. I lost the last match of a Twitch tournament with my Wheel build by getting parried.

Saws and tricked Reiter are pretty good at catching the dash ins, but the 2 weapons I feel counter it the best are untricked Burial Blade and Whip. The Burial Blade while untricked has a weird timing to it's swings that catches Wheel dash, and Whip R2 is also good at catching it.
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>>122753057
from like 100 hours of pvp with wheel i can say that roll catching is common to everyone who beats me consistently. it's easiest to do it with saws, but you can also do it with reiter, threaded cane, or brisket dinner

the second hardest thing is that wheel builds tend to have garbage stamina and this is a real problem facing BoM/brisket dinner builds. BoM is imo one of the best counters because the roll attack is very likely to out-prioritize the wheel's

i have gotten some reasonable competition from axe/blade/kirk builds that play zoning games, mostly blade. other than that, if someone doesn't do one of the 3 things i described, i roll them. i have NEVER had a problem with ANY player consistently parrying me and that is complete bullshit basically
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>>122753051

Well if we're not doing a faggot fightclub I'll just beat the wheel with two summons and a cleared-out level :^>
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>>122753135
i would never run wheel in a healing FC

honestly i would never run a 2h weapon in a healing FC. healing FCs are just parry fishing IMO
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>>122753391
I am not talking about a no-healing FC because they are not common. Most people who do FCs and tournaments for this game have heals enabled, and they parry fish all fucking day, which is my point.
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>>122753465
was the recent tournament no-heal?
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>>122753465
yeah but if you're gonna parry fish all fucking day you should just run 50 SKL saws or reiter and be done with it. there's no real meta other than that
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>>122753131
Y'all better start laughin real fuckin soon
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1 FUCKING DAY
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>>122753519
No, heals were enabled. Everything was allowed besides the 2 elixirs and BMA.

I'm not saying there is skill in parrying, I believe it is random as fuck compared to Dark Souls parrying, but in a heal FC with people shooting like Call of Duty it's bound to happen. And it's a one-shot even if they don't burrito because everybody runs SKL builds.
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>>122753623
that just doesn't make sense
it is mathematically unfair in favor of the host
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>>122753623

>healing was allowed
>Elixir and BMA was not

How strange
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>>122753623
i really think if that's the situation there's no reason to run anything other than reiter + wooden shield
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>>122753681
you have to use cooperators or oath rune shit

it sucks basically
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>>122753681
It was red versus summon. Both had the same HP advantage.

>>122753714
Well yeah, but I just like my Wheel/ARC build. It's what I have most fun with. Winning is cool and all but I didn't really care, I was just having fun and showing those kids what Wheel could do. I got 3rd place, would have won the whole thing if I didn't get parried at the last second.
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>>122753794
i'm looking forward to new DLC shit shaking up the scene

between ludwig's and a literal flaming hammer i'm confident there'll be some kind of STR/ARC weapon
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>>122752108
>save whole set of images using imgr option
>drop into word processor or gdocs
>print to pdf
>have what you are asking for
don't be so dumb.
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At what point should I stop levelling Stamina? 20?
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20 is absolute maximum.

If you have points to spare then stamina is alright but most of the time having base stamina + anti-cock rune allows you to have plenty of maneuverability.
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>>122754335
I used to advocate for 10 END maximum with no rune on every build but I'm starting to see the strength of a tiny bit more stamina. I now use ACWM on my STR/Quality build and Wheel build.

I still go no rune on my BL80 build STR build though, just because.
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>>122754427

You can always go base endurance and no rune, equip Blunderbuss and when you need stamina in a pinch just spam your blunderbully to keep enemy at bay or staggered while your shit regens.
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Would anybody like to co-op Yahahaha NG+2 with ya boi?

Pass:fnc1234
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Was the famitsu article ever translated??
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>trying beast claws on 50/50
>deals shit damage at first glance even with like 570 AR
>a tiny bit of beasthood moves their AR into 600-700 territory
>mfw fools are trying to trade against them
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Beast claws are literally the "is my opponents stupidity viable?" weapon.
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>>122754335
Last question, for a quality build, should I go for 30 str and 50 skill if I'm using Ludwig and Blade of Mercy?
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>>122747690
>wanting to fuck Paarl
>not his handsome cousin
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>>122753978
Doesn't work via tablet, else I wouldn't be asking.
Thanks for the reminder though.
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>>122754669
Cmon guys you know you wanna.
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New thread

>>122755139

>>122755139

New Thread
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>>122751076
wow I like the dead eyes and expression
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>>122755626
She's seen some shit.
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>>122752329
how does this work? Does 50+233 get that 4x modifier when in red wheel mode?
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>>122754804
What level are you?
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