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You haven't forgotten about her, have you?

>What's new?
Cho'gall is out. New map. Balance patch.
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/19953593/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-patch-notes-november-11-2015-11-11-2015

>where do I find you meme-loving faggots
/join /vg/

>What hero should I buy?
Find the ones you enjoy playing and buy those. Don't buy cheap heroes just to get into Hero League, it's not worth rushing into.

>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/
FAQ | Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Free Hero Rotation: http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/13604571130
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/raynor
News, Updates, and Datamining: http://www.heroesnexus.com/

Last time on /hotsg/: >>122580681
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Dildos
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Is it true that you can get ChoGall by simply winning games against bots?
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>>122655561
Yes
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3rd for Brightwing
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Is it true that ChoGall is retarded op?
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>>122655671
No, Raynor can 1v1 him at all times :^)
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>>122655671
no since most Chos are brain dead.
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>>122655489
should remove new map from op, won't be in game for a week
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>>122655671
Its really hard to say, since I've only played him in QM so that means I always fight other cho'galls as well but I'm 8 wins and 2 losses.

Though I have been able to win multiple cho'gall vs 3 other hero engagements, there are still some characters that hard counter like the butcher.


I'd say he leans on OP espically because of how easy it is to just do tons of free dmg with no effort.

I think he will def be a high tier character but not necessarily as op as he may seem ATM.


Still want someone to queue with me into HL so I can test the waters there
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>tfw fucking love being a shoulder mounted turret as Gall
>tfw hard to trust Cho's
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>Galls who don't detonate Cho's bombs
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>team keeps attacking tank build cho'gall instead of morales or rehgar
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>>122655989
>Cho's who don't throw the bomb on low target
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>>122655671
Cho'Gall is high tier, but not OP
His biggest counter is %HP Damage
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>>122655989
>Cho keeps throwing bombs in random directions
>I'm busy turreting and sometimes don't have the reaction to keep up
Dammit
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>>122656187
Huge voice command that tells you he is throwing the bomb. Its super easy to not fuck up
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>Chos who walk away from the opponent exactly when Gall decides to ult
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Cho'gall, the ultimate team building exercise
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Any tips for Rexxar?

Is it true you absolutely don't want Rexxar near the fight at all? If this is the case, why aren't his Mend Pet talents more popular, considering he's likely going up against a shit ton of AoE, and Misha would likely get destroyed standing in the mdidle of all of it.
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Cho'Gall, the ultimate memester hero. Memestier than Abathur, Murky, Sylvanas, Nova, Meepo and all Dota 2 meme heroes together.
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>tfw saving my abilites for last hits only
>not getting the kill counts
is that shit bugged again?
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>Getting mad slav whispers
kek, do they seriously expect me to understand their shitstain language?
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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>>122655671

>triple strike
>giant killer
>anything to improve shield regen

artanis wrecks him
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>play Cho'Gall with your friend because he bought the jew ticket
>he sucks balls 0-5
and he doesnt want to stop.
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>>122657458
>artanis wrecking anything
>ever
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>>122655671
Feels a bit OP if you need a specific hero to counter him
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>The XP column on the in-game Score Screen has been removed.
Why?
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>>122657869
it triggered support players
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>>122657531
>trying to get all my friends cho'gall
>Play with friend who wants to play cho
>he sucks 0-2 balls
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>>122657869
It's still there
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Is it possible to be the other part to Cho'gall if you queue QM as random?
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>>122658716
Nope
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What a fucking OP champion

Jesus fucking christ
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>TLV are not viable anymore
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>>122656301
>walk out of fight
>twisting nether starts charging
>oh shit sorry
>Q back in
>triple kill
ez
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>>122659252
Good. Fuck them.
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Gathering Power buffs when?
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>>122659252

>QM games
>anything "viable" or "unviable"
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So now cho gall is the shit hero that everybody is going to pretend is good
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>>122659252
That's not a fair measure. The other team had a disadvantage by having Cho'Gall on it.
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>Li Li, Nova, and Cho'Gall on your team
>Tfw empty lane
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>>122657227
Yeah, where ??
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>get hero of the storm
>check scoreboard
>17 kill assist

what
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>>122659928
Did you have 3 killing blows and 17 assists?
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I feel like I'm playing bronze-bronze games when I'm diamond-bronze. Almost every game is 20 kills+ now for both teams
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>>122659374
Nice fanfic
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>>122660137
I feel you, was just in a game with a kael'thas building backdraft and a baneling Zagara.
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>>122660341
working on an erotic one next ;)
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>>122660445
make it about lunara
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>>122660530
>Teasing Illidan with my low HP and sexy hooves
>Forgot he's blind
>He just walks away

baka desu senpai
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>>122660732
should have tried your human call
bet it would on an elf
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Any EUs want to give me Chogall?
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how exactly do I play as chogall
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>>122661000
Absolutely not.
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>QM is unplayable because theres 2 chogles in every match
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>>122661045
GIB
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>>122661038
you get in a team with someone that has chogall and then you choose gal.
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>chogall every match
>retard free week kaels every match
kill me
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>>122661217
You will not get.
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>>122661254
you can pick either head, as long as you pick the opposite the one the host has readied with
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>>122661337
what kind of Li Li would act rude on the internet
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>>122661337
AAAAAHHH
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>>122660530
it's gonna be about Jaina and Nova taking Cho'gall's Hammer of Twilight if you know what I mean
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how are Vikings after scaling changes
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>Bronzies
>omg cho'gall so fucking op fuck bomb omg so op
>Everyone else
>hahaha easy win we are against a cho'gall

Bronzies never change.
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>>122661483
>Chogie is bad

Tales from Wood League
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i remember when you guys said the butcher is good
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>>122661474
what are "scaling changes" anyway?
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every hero keeps getting worse

Lunara is fucked
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>>122661617
please just read the patch notes
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>>122661617
changes to the scaling
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>>122661703
DEAD GAME
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>>122661617
tl;dr everyone starts off a little stronger but ends up the same as pre-patch at level 20
also death timers have been increased
basically everything has been boosted to be a bit more important from the get go
it makes level ups a little less big and important but not as much as /hotsg/ claimed
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>>122661775
It also helped a lot of late game heroes. Nova, Thrall and Kael are big winners from what little I've played so far.
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>zagara with a roachling build
>cho'gall is a pair of polaks or something similiar
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>>122661775
Are you fucking kidding? Diablo and Butcher have been completely fucked over by the new scaling. Levels don't mean shit anymore because you can wipe at a 3 level disadvantage if you have Kael/Jaina.
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>ten more fucking years of the same exact heroes every game

this game is so unbelievably stale, why does Blizzard deliberately restrict their hero releases to every 3-4 weeks despite heroes they show off seem finished? they even delay shit with putting it on the PTR for week just to change absolutely nothing when it comes to live

I just want a world of hots where there's more than 20 heroes
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>tfw no friends
>can't get cho'gall
It's not like I wanted to play it or anything
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>>122662297
most people cant give him away
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>>122662170
>I just want a world of hots where there's more than 20 heroes

Good thing there are more than 20 heroes in the game.
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>playing raynor against cho'gall
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>be nice and give away cho after quest is over
>want to queue for qm after bot matches
>forget to switch to qm
EVERY FUCKING TIME
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NA, anyone with Cho'gall want gold wins. GreaSeMonKey#1681
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>>122662454
Did you take a fat shit today?
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hots wont even start on my old laptop, so much for making 2 new accounts for cho quest
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Now that Artanis has been out for a while what's your opinion of him compared to other heroes?
>fun as hell
>chase for days
>tfw you actually land his e and net FREE KILLS
>dash sniping
>ult sniping
>gives no fucks about poking in lane
>that sexy voice
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>>122663026
Fun but not very good till he gets Charge. That talent either needs to be baseline or much earlier in the tree.
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Cho'gall really should have had mana.
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>>122663228
You want to make them worse?
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These scaling changes suck, levels mean almost nothing now
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>>122662915
You don't need more hardware for that.
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So how does obtaining Cho'gall work?
Do I have to be invited into a party by somebody who owns him, then he selects to play Cho, I get Gall and after two games I get the hero?
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>>122662689
not yet lad
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>>122663791
yes
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>>122663791
>then he selects to play Cho, I get Gall and after two games I get the hero?
you can play either head as long as he readies first, and you have to win twice
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>>122663791
I think they have to be in your friend list as well, but yeah that's how it works.
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>>122663847
>>122663904
Oh, thanks.
Anybody over here wanna play two games?
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>>122663723
I assumed two instances wouldnt run at once
can I just launch hots twice? or will it take vm shit?

>>122663904
they dont
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So, what's the verdict, who has the better ass?
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>>122664130
Butcher
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>>122664130
Tassadar
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>>122664130
ETC
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>>122664130
Arthas
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>>122663993
Needs Sandboxie or some shit. But everything is better than socializing for imaginary currency.
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>>122664130
http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/VO/Sylvanas/Sylvanas%20-%20Default/SylvanasBase_Kill01.mp3
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Cho'meme doesn't seem very OP tbqh. I mean he didn't feel like you were playing two characters and he seems pretty squishy.
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>>122664515
Monk melts him.
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sup murricans, haven't played on the new patch yet. how different is the balancing?
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>>122664624
>bronzelords trying to grasp at any excuse to make SSS good
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>>122664319
I got the fireside gathering cardback alone, I'll make this work
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>>122664624

>cho'gall ice blocks the seven sided bronze
>laughing ogres

apocalypse is cum
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>>122664624
A lot of characters melt him. He has the same problem as Butcher. He's built for 1v1 in a game that does everything it can to discourage 1v1 fights.

The only thing OP about him is the fact Gall can use his two spells when you are in Dragon or Plant.
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>>122664130
Lili
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>>122664813
>Using it before he blocks if he even takes that talent.

How shit are you?
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>>122664994
Not shit enough to take Seven Sided Bronze
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>>122664994
>holding it until after he blocks when he's killing your team cause they can't do enough damage to out-DPS his heals
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>>122664994

>monk never uses SSS
>never have to use block
>kill monk anyways

lmao?
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>>122662454
>mfw i reach lvl 13 in the match
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>>122665049
Normally I'd agree but vs Cho'Gall it fucking destroys him. Wipes him from the map completely and then it's 3v5.

Besides Palm isn't always the right choice. Vs a team with less burst I like SSS because chances are you can heal anyone in danger before they die.
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>>122664515
>he seems pretty squishy.
What?! He has the highest HP in all stages of the game. Gall can even help Cho sustain with a talent.

He's not v1 zeratul OP but his HP and self sustain is ridiculous, fight takes too long because of it and he almost always comes up on top on sustained clashes because he has no mana issues
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>>122665072
Then your entire team is melting him. What's the problem? Does every Cho'Gall think every singe fight is going to be 1v1. We already had a hero with that problem. His name is Butcher how is he doing?
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>>122665510
>Then your entire team is melting him. What's the problem?
yeah, how could a hero who's every attack is AoE and who has massive self heal possibly stand up in a teamfight?
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mfw Nova just became more useless
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>>122665624
I don't know. Probably why he has a 20% win rate in hero league.
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Do AI games count towards getting Cho'gall?
Any Cho'gall owners who want to play two games?
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>>122665682
Nova is way better than she was before. What are you smoking?
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Why did they make Gall so fucking boring?
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>>122665717
Yes they do.
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>Gall and Abathur hats still can't right click to ping where they think Cho/their symbiote host should move
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>>122665848
They figured people liked Aba. So they wanted to make character that was based around just his hat.
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>>122665924
Just ping the area in front of them?
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>yeserday
>"anyone have chogall?"
>today
>"anyone need chogall?"
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>>122666021
>people liked Aba
>people liked a game constantly being 4v5 against them
Well we know blizzard are fucking stupid so I guess what else is new.
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Anyone with "Nig" as the first 3 letters in their name and someone else with "glet" as the last 4 letters? Plz become friends.
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>>122662297
>>122662383
Literally just join any populated chat and ask. Getting the gold quest is the hard part.
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>>122666809
It censors the "nig" of my name :(
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>>122666272
I still need him. ;_;
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>>122667237
ask in the /vg/ chat
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>>122665848
He's the perfect character for that retarded friend/girlfriend of yours that seems to have no map awareness, crippled decision-making and inability to manage his/her mana.
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>pick raynor or valla
>actually get into games without cho'gall on either team
>pick a support
>both teams have one
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>>122667305
Why can't I ask here?
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BOMBS AWAY
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>tfw you get into a qm without chogall on either team
thank you jesus
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>>122667339
>trusting that friend to manage skill shots and timings
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Anyone in EU wants to share cho'gall for 2 matches with the AI?
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WHY WON'T SONYA LOVE MEEEE
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>>122668396
I just shout
>BOMB
or
>PRESS Z FUCK
into the mic and it usually works.
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AI Gall is fucking retarded. He doesn't even explode my bombs.
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>>122668790
>voice chat

autism
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>>122668908
>playing a hero that can only be used with a premade without voice chat
Do you like handicapping yourself?
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>>122669082
>talking to strangers on line
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>>122669182
>not playing Cho'Gall with your friends
>playing premades with strangers at all
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>>122669298
>having friends
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looking to get chogall EU

impqu#2878
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Are we back in the 2k5's or something? what's with these LOLCats avatarfagging
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Can someone explain to me how the scaling changes make heroes like thrall/nova/kael better? Is it because in the event of an early-game level disadvantage, they are now worthwhile to have around since their damage is more meaningful than it would've been with the old scaling?
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>>122669298
can you gib the pic of that cat grinning at the raw chicken breasts, I need it for private purposes
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>>122669734
>Butcher with full stacks sees an innocent Cho'Gall
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>>122669834
thank
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reminder to adopt a d2g without a chogall
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>>122667679
you'll always get an immediate answer, plus someone can just click your name and invite you
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>>122670337
>d2g
Diablo 2 General?
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15k gold

tfw ready for tracer :3
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i got rank 22 after placements
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>>122671229
don't hold your breath
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>>122669834
and then gets his face melted and shit pushed in for his trouble.
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I have 25k gold, what should I spend it on? Considering Kael'Thas, maybe save the rest for Greymane.. I don't know.

>>122671229
tracer probably won't be out for a while friend
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>>122671229
LOL
O
L
>having less than 50k gold
>waiting for a hero with an ETA of half a year
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sylvanas players are the worst ass hurt losers ever, literally any game I have someone complaining it's some mediocre sylvanas player complaining about how bad everyone but them is
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>>122671229
bait desu
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>>122671229
>he has less than 500k gold
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>>122672040

Sylvanas, Illidan, amd kerrigan players seem to talk trash while being absolute garbage more often than any other heros
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>>122657746
I'm a little late to the thread but artanis beats literally anyone 1v1, that probably includes cho'gall (but I haven't tested that claim myself yet)

does that mean he's a good hero? not really, his chase isn't great so most anyone can just walk away from him, plus he is low impact in team fights. but any 1 hero who stands around and fights him will lose.
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Play Kael for wow daily and assasin daily

lose all games
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>>122669834
>cho walks away while gall blasts him with arcane farts
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does cho'gall count as 2 heros for HL?
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Should I even attempt to play HL? I'm close to R1 and I feel like Cho'gall is gonna ruin everything.
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>>122672937
Of course.
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>>122673142
I mean, for the purpose of having 10 owned heroes.
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>>122673274
For me they don't count at all. The game tells me I have 8 heroes owned on the HL page, even though Cho'Gall is supposed to be at least 9th.
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>>122672640

>doing the 200g daily

you deserved those losses
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>>122673559
The ten heroes thing is to stop situations where you are last pick and literally can't pick anyone because they are all chosen. As you can't pick Cho or Gall last pick, it doesn't help.
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the ultimate meme team
chogall
abathur
tlv
tassadar
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>/vg/ and co are complaining about cho'gall being OP
>he has a 20% winrate in HL on hotdogs
way to stay on point, /vg/
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post your best cho'gall playername combos ITT
if you see some decent ones in game, start saving them
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>>122674314
>tassadar
>not murky
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>>122674420

>tfw blizzard only lets you change name once
>not even jewish enough to charge us to do it multiple times

why bother looking you'll never find anything good
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What the fuck did they do to leoric's Q?
Need double Q talent to even come close to a wave clear.
SERIOUSLY?

Not only did they introduce a gimmicky hero that requires real life friends to play.
They fucking ruined my favourite character.

FUCK
THIS
SHIT
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>play Anub'arak to web wrap some Cho'galls
>no Cho'gall
th-thanks
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>>122674417
>7 days statistics for a hero that came out in the last hours
bad bait made me reply 7/10
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>>122675027
I don't believe you.
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>>122675018
Literally the only recent change to Leoric's Q was a ~10% damage nerf months ago.

>aww I can't be the best waveclearing warrior in the game without talents anymore :((

He's still fine, stop whining.
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>Cho'gall epidemic
Literally cancer hero
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I'm just hoping hoping they will release specialist garrosh who dromps manabombs and summon kor'kron and do shit with sha
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who is the most reddit hero?
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>>122675878
Probably murky. They go nuts over that shit like teemo in league.
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So, what is THE Cho'gall counter hero?
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>>122675878
unfortunately cho'gall is pretty fucking reddit right now, all of the dick sucking "omg this community is so good everyone has cho'gall" etc.
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>>122675925
murky
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>>122675390
>new hero gets introduced for free
>suprised when people play him
kill yourself.

>>122675878
Murky

>>122675925
Raynor
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>>122675878
Abathur, Cho'Gall or Murky.
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Garithos when?
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>>122675878
>the most reddit hero
Kael'thas, Illidan, Nova, Zeratul
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>>122675018
>early game
>Q wave
>smack mage once for orb
>few more smacks and wave is dead

>mid game
>q wave
>pick up orb, smack soldiers, mount up 75% of wave will be dead

>late game
>Q wave
>pick up orb
>75% of wave is dead from flame talent


fuck off faggot, the Q nerf was months ago and it barely affected him at all

>>122675925

raynor

>>122675924
>>122676020
>>122676031

murky actually requires some skill to not die 50+ times i feel like reddit hates murky because he dies too much, or doesn't contribute to the team in their rank 40 games

I'd say illidan desu or nova/zeratul because they're stealth
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>>122676213
murky is supposed to die tho
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>>122675925
Leoric or monk with SSS. Monk does more damage, but sss can easily be blocked. Leoric does less, but on a lower cooldown.
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>>122676295
no one is supposed to die, it just hurts less when murky dies.
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>>122676361

no >>122676295 murky is supposed to die, and as long as you're not a retard and let them kill your egg (one time is too much) then you can die all you want

the goal is to make your deaths meaningful. Trade yourself for towers, forts, enemy heroes, or objectives
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>>122675925
Any hero that can do % hero damage.
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>>122676295
>murky is supposed to die
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>>122676295
>murky is supposed to die tho
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Hammer players all need to be gassed desu
tired of this shit ass awful fucking hero losing my games
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>>122676465
retard
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why arent you watching our very own bronzie?
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>>122676886
forgot image
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>>122676886
As a matter of fact I am.
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>>122676886
sham is back?
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>>122676783

>durrr the goal is to not die as murky deaths r bad

stay retarded
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>>122677156
What is your point? Deaths are bad, always. There is no situation that can be improved by a character dying if the alternative was the same happening without them dying. Stop being an idiot. Yes, Murky deaths are far more acceptable than anyone else's deaths, that still doesn't mean they're desirable.
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>>122674314
>no lili
Why do you want no support on the meme team ?
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could anybody help me get cho'gall?
im eu petermcgra:2822
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currently playing the placement games, how hard is to reach rank 1 in HL m8s?
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>>122677480
took me 6 games
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So, do Towers and Keeps just suck now with the new scaling? Or does it just feel that way 'cause Cho's health pool is massive?
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>>122677383
join the channel I'm giving him away
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>>122677480
Depends on how gud you are. And what rank you get out of placements. I got it in 44 games (including placements), but I think I'm an outlier in that regard. Haven't seen anyone else getting it that fast.
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>>122677275
Spawning at your egg when you're all the way across the map and need to do some other shit. Fighting and getting nothing done and then taking longer to restore than it would've taken to just respawn.
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>>122677275

deaths are never desirable and I never said that

that being said you are going to die as murky many many times and if you fag out and don't keep up pressure on a teamfight/objective/whatever even if it is a guaranteed death for you you are a faggot

if you are not back on top of that shit in 5 seconds, even if you only can throw one fish and one slime you are a shit murky
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>>122669298
thank you for adding to my confused cats folder, anon

>>122675202
do you think that hotdogs just takes every single match played in the past 7 days and compares the number of a hero's wins to that number? do you understand how percentages work?
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>>122671786

how do you get so much gold senpai?
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>>122677275
murky is literally supposed to die, it's part of his hero gimmick, you are literally retarded if you think otherwise
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why do heroes rub their hands when they tp/mount
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>>122678309

because both result in you ending up on top of a mount you paid 9.99 for you wonderful go... guy, i meant guy, yes....
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>>122678048
By being the only one in this thread who actually plays this game.
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>>122678641
youre that autist with a lvl 20 chen arent you
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>>122679015
Not me. I don't have any characters above level 12.
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>>122677976
>percentage over 7 days
learn 2 statistics
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>>122679313
inb4 wins yield 4-6 points.
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>>122679514

>win 3 games
>7,6,11 points
>lose one
> minus 21 points

t-thanks
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>>122678641
I play this game! But I've only played since Butcher, so a few months only.

And only like 4 games a day.

I also stopped leveling heroes I don't care about. Honestly? I have plenty of gold, not much to spend on, I have enough heroes. I might grab Jaina now that she's cheap. I didn't like playing Kael, maybe a different Mage would be fun, I have like no assassins I enjoy playing other than Thrall.
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>>122677745
>>122677603
>>122677480

Lvl 30 here
55 games played, 25W-30L.

how far i am from rank 1 anons?
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>>122679645
More or less, about 500 games
Being optimistic
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>>122679254
let's do some math. over the past 7 days, there were 10,000 games played. of those 10,000 games played, there were 1,000 cho'gall games played (because he was released 2 days ago).

of those 1,000 games, cho'gall won 500.

what is cho'gall's winrate, anon? 500 out of 1,000 (50%)? or 500 out of 10,000 (5%)?
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>>122677480
Pretty easy, got rank 12 or so and then had a massive winstreak until rank 1.
And now I'm stuck on 3k mmr, I wish I could get gud.
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>>122679629
Admittedly I've been playing for almost a year now. I, too, am only playing around 4 games a day just to do my quest, and I've bought every hero I've enjoyed playing in the free rotation.

Jaina is really good and fun to play. The best hero for the value.

>>122679615
Every time.
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0-2 zagara
4-6 tass
7-9 bright wing
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>>122680005
EN TARO TASSADAR, BROTHER
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The Vikings aren't too bad despite the changes.
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>>122679937
It says right on the hotdog main page how many games cho'gall has been played in. That fucking guy is in denial.
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>>122680421
Bronze rank for sure
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>>122679971
>3k mmr
True MMR hell.
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>>122680421
I mean, are testing them in QM or HL? I am sure the changes won't affect my winrate in scrub city QM, people are just worried about it in the upper leagues. Of course, with Takada playing only Raynor now, how would we know?
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>>122680528
he seems to think that the hotdogs win rate formula is "# of wins with hero divided by # of all games played regardless of if that hero was even in the match"
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>>122679629

gitgud with kael

it teaches you positioning, and he's one of the best assassins in the game

jaina is also very very good she just requires you to be in the face of people to land all of her spells but she absolutely shits out damage
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Never play chogall with anyone on vg

fucking retards.
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>>122661703
They should make their new heroes P2W like Leoric if they want this shitty model to work.
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>>122681320
Never play anything with these "people".
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>>122680971
Eh, it wasn't as though I was bad with Kael, I just didn't like the playstyle. Which is weird, because it sounds really cool on paper. Having essentially twice the number of basic abilities? Awesome, right?

I dunno, I might just not like Assassins in general. I'm excited about Greymane.

I am honestly buying Jaina mainly because she is adorable and I really hope they bring back the Winter skin. She reminds me of Snegurochka with her blue outfit.
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>tfw hit 3.7k MMR with /vg/ last night

Feels good.
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>>122681789

>tfw i will never escape diamond solo queueing
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>>122682003
I hit 3.5k in HL solo queueing and then dropped to 3450. Keep it up anon, you can do it!
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>>122680849
Lets make it easy for him than.
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>>122672640
>not doing bot games for your dailies
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>>122681789
I think I know who this is

>tfw hit 2.3k last night again
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Has anyone taken Titan Killer on Artanis vs Cho'gall? Giving up Zealot Charge seems like to big of a thing for that just vs him.
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Any info on Greymane's/Lunara's abilities?
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>>122683201
Youtube.

Tons of videos on both including spotlights.
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>>122683201

only all the videos describing them, the gameplay videos, the wikis having information on them...
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>>122683037
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>>122681320
>playing with anyone on vg
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>>122682282

any advice for a shitter? I just hit 2300 and its getting aggravating

i wish i had friends who could help me more mmr

is there an equivalent of wisp-whoring in hots
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>>122683201
Greymane in human form is a range warrior and in werewolf form he's a melee bruiser.
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>>122683127
Artanis is useless w/o zealot charge, i didnt even know there are other talents at that tier
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>>122683035
>I think I know who this is

I'm not surprised. There's not too many people on /vg/ above 3.5k, are there, dubs?
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>>122683846
Like 6 people
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>>122683832
I don't think he's useless without it, but he does become a lot better with it. I was just wondering when facing Cho'Gall. You can't practice against certain heroes in the try mode right? It's always Arthas?
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>>122683201
Abilities yes, talents nope.
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>>122683654
>that reaction image
I'm a little confused
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>>122676295
he's supposed to trade
big difference, as long as his jihad is successful he may get the virgins and be reincarnated
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does any one of you memers need Cho'gall. I need 2 wins. Zhanrock#1622
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>>122684098
It's about 600 extra damage with titan/triple strike at level 20 against cho'gall. decide for yourself if 600 extra damage every 4 seconds is worth it.
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>>122683660
My biggest advice is learn to count and look at the minimap. Before you engage on someone, stop and count. How many people do you have nearby to help you? How many people does the enemy have to help him? If they have more, don't fucking go in. Look at the minimap. If you don't see an enemy on the minimap, assume they're nearby unless you know they're mercing. Learn to notice when an enemy is overextended and pick them off to ensure a 4v5 advantage.
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>people that don't know butcher was from Diablo 1
>people that think lost vikings were from Wow
>people that think pandaren aren't a cannon race
>people that think medic is good
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>>122679739

thats not possible men, i get like 1/4 of lvl every win...so iguess its like 120, 150 games?.....oh my god just kill me already.
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>>122684490
>>>people that think lost vikings were from Wow
Dont they use the names of some dwarves in uldaman?
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>>122684631
...thats why scrubs think they came from warcraft.
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>>122684803
Can you blame them? Very little people know TLV exists
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>>122683654

i got chogall from a vg anon, he party and win the 2 games we play.

not all vg sucks balls men
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>>122684448

i'm sure everyone says this but I'm fairly confident in my own abilities. I'm aware of the map, enemy hero movements, limitations and capabilities of my hero in a given situation. I do my best to not rush into battles where we don't have the advantage

I can reliably play warriors, dps, support, but it just seems like whatever I'm NOT playing is what fucks it up for my team. Can I get better? of course, we're all shitters.

I don't know, it just feels hopeless. I feel like I've been condemned to have teammates that don't listen, take any chat as a personal attack and shit the bed or feed, or just build their heroes pants on head retarded

>>122684490

>butcher isn't the resurrected butcher from d3
>pandaren isn't some fag shit in the game because metzen is a closet furry
>cannon
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>>122683660
play dota for a while then come back to hots
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>cho'gall 20% winrate
>even tho every game has cho'gall on both sides
HOW DOES IT EVEN WORK
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>>122684905
it was actually decently popular back in the day.
>>122684965
>metzen having anything to do with pandaren
'no'
Samwise, the art guy, originally put them out as an april fools joke. That's their creation myth. people liked it, they stuck around.
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Cho'gall played well, with good cooperation and contact is like unstoppable moving fortress.

Cho'gall played by shitters is shit. Does nothing but dying, and gives twice expiercience.
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>>122684418
Nah. Especially since the best way to deal with Cho'Gall is deal with the people around him leaving him by himself. Well that or pick Jimmy/ Leoric.

Also I don't know if anyone has tried this but Brightwing might be a huge counter Cho'Gall as well.
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>>122684965

>>pandaren isn't some fag shit in the game because metzen is a closet furry
>being this much of a retard

Pandaren exist solely because of sam "big n hairy" wise
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>>122685112
>hero league
HOW DO YOU EVEN BREATHE
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>>122685112
>HL
>cho on both sides
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Anyone with Cho'gall wanna play 2 games with me on EU?
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>>122685191
brightwing is probably the actual counter to cho'gall. people spam raynor/leoric etc. but cho'gall can fucking wreck anyone if he really wants them dead, even in a team fight, and a measly 1% hp per attack isn't going to change much. but brightwing alone has cc that disables both heads and molten barrier, slows cho'gall, and can even make him vulnerable with talents.
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>>122684965
Learn to ping your teammates back and direct them through chat. Don't be abrasive, just keep chat short and sweet ("wait for valla", "can't fight trib 4v5, take boss instead", etc). Sometimes you're just going to get asshole teammates, and there's nothing you can do about that. Just mute them and focus on the next game.
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Are there any occasions when one should pick Lamb of the Slaughter over Furnace Blast?
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>>122685627
cheeky heroes with escapes
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>You pick Cho'Gall.
>Very next pick is Leoric and Raynor.
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>>122685056

Im lazy and don't want to invest that time into dota when i could easily play 3x the number of hots games

>>122685621

i'm trying man, i'm trying

fuck me senpai

justa bout this close to starting a new account and throwing all my shekels down the drain
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>>122685551
Leoric is really good because a lot of his stuff is % based. If he hits him with Drain Hope you run. It's what you do. Raynor is about how hard he hits Cho'Gall and the fact he has such a good attack speed. The attack speed is what makes Raynor so good instead of someone like say Tychus.
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>>122684490
>people that post tumblr eceleb shit
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>>122686006
>people that get ass-blasted over an image from tumblr
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>>122685978
yes, but all of those things rely on cho'gall not murdering your face, especially in the case of raynor. if cho'gall isn't being CC'ed (by brightwing, for instance) raynor has 2-3 shots until cho'gall is on his face and pounding him down.
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Is thje Blizzcon Championship Bundle worth it?

I already have Abathur off there, so it's $30.41 for me.

>$30.71 for Uther, leoric, Valla, Sonya, and a skin for all 4+Pajamathur
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>>122686238
>getting ass blasted when people don't know some characters from 1992
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>>122686530
_no
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>>122685743
I am thinking Valla, maybe Tychus with his bullshit dash, Muradin, Anub'arak, Hammer... Who else?
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>>122686530
Doesn't seem like it.
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>>122686572
>getting ass-blasted by things on the internet
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>>122686280
And then you shotgun him away.
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>>122686648
with valla and tychus at least, the extra damage from blast furnace in your combo will almost certainly kill them if they aren't topped off or if you have a little help (i'm talking like, brightwing auto attacks help)
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>>122686530
I'm debating it as well. It would be 15 dollars for me and I'd get the 5 skins pretty much.
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>>122686626
>>122686698
Any bundles that are worth it? Or are all of them bad?
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>>122686754
>cho dashes in
>you shotgun him
>gall uses z
???
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>>122687138
I'm just waiting for another Hero only bundle desu
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>>122687138
If you don't own Raynor Muradin and Malf get the bundle for them. It's probably the only reasonably priced bundle.
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>>122687168
Revolution Overdrive.
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How to git gud?
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>>122687138
Starter bundle but mainly for the stimpack since you're gold gain will net you quite some gold and the heroes in it are top tier
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>>122687303
Play more
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>>122687337

isnt the starter bundle (once you buy it once) cheaper than a standalone stimpack because its dynamic?
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>wasting money on this game
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>>122687426
Yes that's why it's the only bundle worth buying
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>>122687337
>>122687273
I'll look into it a bit more before committing to anything.

>>122687428
>being too poor to spend money on this game
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>>122659479
It already got buffed. You just have to not be shit.
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>>122687287
Not even that guy but
>10% speed boost equivalent to 60% speed boost
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>>122687962
You just have to keep him off you. Besides. Why would you 1v1 him? This game does everything in it's power to tell you not to.

If 1v1ing Raynor is so impressive why weren't people going crazy for Butcher. Sonya could do it before and can still do it. Hell Nova can 1v1 Raynor.
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>>122687931

B ad meme
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>>122687345
I am too scared of playing QM though :/
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>>122688112
>why would you 1v1 him
Exactly. People are going nuts saying raynor can 1v1 cho'gall when he can't. Raynor shreds cho'gall pretty hard, but he still can't 1v1 him without support because he's still Raynor and Raynor is squishy.
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Cho is kinda average, but Gal can pump out the same dmg as Kael.

>tfw you get a bad gal and lose
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what gimmick will blizz have for a hero at next blizzcon? why can't they just release normal fun heroes and speed it the fuck up. it takes way too long to release heroes. i'll be dead before they release a substantial amount
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>>122688945
they release them every 3 weeks. What other assfaggot releases them that fast...?
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Are there any non-obvious heroes that are good in the Chogal meta?

All I can think of are Karazim, Raynor, Valla, Falstad, Anubarak, and Brightwing as counters.

Healers with the % based shield are good with him, I guess.
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>>122688870
>tfw you get a Cho who keeps ignoring objectives, staying on the same fucking lane the whole match
>>
how do you get matches without the fucking ogre
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>>122688945
You again? There are over 50 heroes, how is that not a substantial amount? Also, gimmick heroes are fun, go play LoL if you want heroes to be carbon copies of each other.
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>>122689346

can you pick him in hl?
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>>122672293
This is so true lol
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>>122688870
>tfw both Cho and Gall are good
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>>122689243
League used to release them every 2 weeks and Dota 2 when they were trying were dumping anywhere from 1-4 heroes at a time every 2 weeks.
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>>122689582
no they did not you idiot. Prove me wrong with a link
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>>122689479
>over 50 heroes

Cho'gall is literally 44. Even Smite has 70 gods.
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>>122689243

they dont need to when they already have a substantial hero pool
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>>122689683
Check out most of the middle sections where they were actually working and see how fast hero releases happened

http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Heroes_by_release
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Another waveclear master with no mana issues. That's what we needed. Bravo.
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>>122689723
Doesn't matter, that's still a lot of heroes :^)
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>>122689317
>spamming qm as jaina
>position away from chogall
>free week KT Zag and Butch are easy kills
Been a good free week so far.
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>>122689901
wow youre dumber than I thought. You do realize dota 2 was just ripping them out of the wc3 mod whole sale and slapping the stats on a model right? There was zero design work that went into them.
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>>122689582

dota had like a handful of patches where they released 3 heroes early on and then it dropped to an absolutely dismal pace

we still don't have abyssal underlord for christs sake
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>Johanna leaves mid lane by itself, asks why.
>"I was getting bored of fighting Leoric."

The fuck.
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>chogall trailer shows him bitchsmacking Johanna
This is NOT okay.
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>>122688870
>>122689582
>>122689901


>tfw hots has put out more heroes in 1 year than dota 2 has in 3
>tfw its taken nearly six years to port heroes from dota to dota 2 with near zero gameplay/mechanical changes
>tfw they ruined skeleton king forever
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First real Dragon hero when? Fairy Memes don't count.
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>>122690054
Compared to all other MOBA's thats really pathetic. These games are supposed to have over 100 characters and they are not even half way there and they are moving at a snails pace.
>>122690119
>design work
>a couple of idiots sitting in a room shitting out ideas

I can make a hero concept in about 30 minutes, even faster with people to bounce ideas off of. The part that takes time is the art and coding for the hero. They had to recode everything and do new art obviously. Nice job trying to move the goalposts though.

>>122690148
Because they actually have a suitable roster and they just wanna jew now with new heroes and arcana's combined. HotS on the other hand has a piss poor roster but they won't just fucking speed up hero releases cause they either
a) are not working like they should be
or
b) want to jew us by releasing heroes one at a time despite having a ton that are ready

Either way the game is suffering and people will just play other games with this shit roster.
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>play as gall
>cho is at 20%hp and sees 3 enemies at 100% hp
>charges in and dies

>use my shadowbolt volley right as our leoric entombs the enemy support
>cho uses molten shield right when i start ulting

i'm done playing gall. i'm tired of cho's who think the #1 priority as cho'gall is to cap vision every 20 seconds and AA roaches and hydralisks while people kill our support
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>>122690659
what is with all the blogposts complaining about gall or cho. you fucking invited the dude to play with you. complain to him, not to us.
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>>122690543
I have returned.
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qm is literally unplayable
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>>122691001
>IT'S NOT OUR FAULT
Very fitting Quote for such a hero.
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>>122690609

>I can shit out a balanced, interesting hero that is fun to play and isn't a carbon copy of other heroes in the same game in less than 30 minutes

pic related
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Just had a Kharazim(chose the damage trait) who died twice to creeps by himself.
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>>122691001
It's like you hate having fun, or don't have any friends.
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>>122690221
She's rotating, take the hint, you aren't supposed to stay in the same lane once you know who you are fighting.
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>>122690543
Why would a dragon want to take the form of a female elf
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>>122690367
deal with it bitch
we Twilight now
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So hows Tyrael doing now?
I wanted to play Tyrael or Arthas to 10. Both are equally fun to me but which is more...competitive I guess you could say?
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>>122691724

to get _____dat pussy pounded______

>>122691660

2/10 people will think serious
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>>122688554
and that was my whole point, raynor isn't going to bring cho'gall down fast enough to stop him from murdering half of your team. brightwing on the other hand has polymorph which is the only basic ability (that i can think of) that actually disables both heads, giving your team time to focus him down safely.
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i literally can't stop playing as Tyrande; healing, killing, assisting, owling , so much fun
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>>122690609
As long as they take time and care creating the waifus, I'm okay with it. This game has a lot of waifus.
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>>122691343
Yes it's actually not that hard. This game has the most basic of abilities anyways just with modifiers for the skills that come from talents. Nothing difficult about it.
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>>122691764
Arthas is the best off tank at the moment. Tyrael is just kind of there. He's viable but other tanks just do more than him.
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>>122692042
Tyrande is the only hero i'm actually good with.
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>>122692042
Tyrande is fun and cute.
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>>122691343
>BALANCED
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>>122692071

>understanding what i said
>"this game has the most basic abilities anyways with modifiers so i'm totally not going to just copy and past everything just like you said"

do you even game theory you faggot
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>>122691860
Not that guy, but isn't it actually a good idea to switch to a lane where you have a better matchup? So many people seem to pick a lane and just stay in it until objective pops when they might be able to push or get a gank in a different lane. With Leo being a counter to tanks and Johanna dealing no damage, I'd imagine she'd be better somewhere else.

>>122692094
Isn't Sonya the best off tank?
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>>122692757
shes an assassin
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>>122692757

No, because Sonya is for all intents and purpose a melee assassin.
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>>122692757

sonya is a mislabeled assassin

that being said, its map dependent but generally unless you're a fucking idiot and overextending there is no matchup (maybe murky vs raynor) where you have a thread of dying in the first 90 seconds
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>>122692042
She really is the best
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>>122692094
Awww is he not very good? I was hoping Tyrael would be a good pick.
How about Muradin then? I really just wanna be super tanky and not do ass for damage.
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I watched a little of the brawl with the blues, and one of the blizzard blues tricksylr said possession was "inanely good" on mines.

I don't think I will be watching that anymore.
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>>122693325
>tanky
>good damage
>not leoric

choose 2
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>>122692247
Why would I copy and paste? I never said that at all.
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>>122693441
trickslyr is better than you at this game, i guarantee it.
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Valla has a cute run
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>>122693325

muradin doesn't deal a terrible amount of damage, but he can take hits like a champ, has one of the best stuns in the game, and is extremely fucking good
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>>122692094
did you even watch the fucking championship. i can't believe how bronze this fucking general is. bunch of rank 40 retards.
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>>122692094
>>122693325

Tyreal is very very very fucking good if you and your team are competent at the game

in bronzeworld he's shit
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There should be a hero that needs 5 player to control but can instagib heroes. That would be fun. :^)
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>>122693607
He's only 3.2k MMR on hotslogs.
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>>122692094
>Arthas best
>Tyrael bad

Please tell me your battletag so I can report and block you.

As other anon said, i hate how this general is full of rank 30
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>>122693441
He's a just a mediocre player. Blues are paid to say all the ultimates are okay unless they are told there is going to be a buff for them them.
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meh, I may as well try here to jew for cho'gall.
so if any of you want to play 2 matches with bots, add #owler2892
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>nazeebo uses zombie wall and blocks his whole team from escaping so the everyone but him dies
>ends game with lowest damage out of everyone including support
fucking hate retards
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stinkybones#1204

someone help me unlock cho'gall PLEASE
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>>122695274
NA or EU?
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>>122694159
>>122693874
Tyrael literally does 0 fucking damage all game. His fucking trait requires him to die to be of any use. He's basically give the team a weak shield and float around and die.
He does fucking no damage and no one will focus him he's not a good tank or offtank.
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>>122695414
asia
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>Cho'gall is meant to play "like a raid boss" and that's why he's 2 players
Onyxia hero that's controlled by 5 people when?
one moves her, one controls her tail, one controls her fire breath, and the other two control eggs and welps
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>>122695414
NA
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Got some time in the weekend if anyone on EU still needs Chogall.

Ramble#2783
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>>122695534
So you have no idea how to play Tyrael. Should have just said that.
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>>122695534
Please. pic of rank and games played. You have 0 fucking idea.
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>>122660137
Maybe it's Cho'Gall release week but I'm in master and these games still feel very bronzey. I'd almost say there's a matchmaking conspiracy.
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>>122695534
he does 0 damage and sucks at tanking if you take the wrong talents, yes, so if you're a retard don't pick tyrael
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So how bad is it?
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>>122695605
I meant evening but for some reason my brain decided that its written weekend.
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>>122695573
Okay I'll help you out.
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>>122695534
100% winrate in championship. you are wrong.
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>>122692094
m8....

ETC and Muradin are the only good tanks
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>>122695906
And Johana, and leoric...

Fucking bronces
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>>122695803
to be fair, he's a walking sanctification bot at the professional level. he's not picked for his damage or his "tanking"
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>>122696278
>tanking

this is a bronze concept created by bronzies
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>>122695681
Ok then tell me what are the "correct" pro talents for Tyrael?
No build lets him not be total shit that's just used for his ult.
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>>122696485
>moving goalposts
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>>122696485
hotdogs.com
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Quick, /hotsg/! Name the most essential Heroes of each class.
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>meme class
TLV, murky, abathur, and now cho'gall
are there any other classes?
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>>122697648

look, I'm not going to help you do something you need to figure out on your own, bronzie
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>>122697648

>ASS
kt
Jaina
Raynor
Valla

>war
Muradin
Johanna
Leoric

>spec
Sylvanas
Nazeebo
Abathur

>keked heals
Uther
Rehgar
monk
lili
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>>122697648
>Warrior
Sonya
>Support
Uther
>Specialist
Abathur
>Assassin
Kael'thas
>Meme
Cho'gall
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>>122697648
every hero
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>>122697648
>Warrior
Leoric
Johanna

>Assassin
Kael'thas
Jaina

>Support
Uther

>Specialist
>implying they're not all special snowflakes
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>>122697648
Which ever you like playing the most. So the answer is obvious. Protoss.
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>tfw you get matched with chogall and 2 free week heroes
Do I even need to play this to know what's gonna happen?
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>>122698465
you got carried by Cho'gall?
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>>122698787
we lost
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This game is going downhill very fast. If Suicidewatch fails Blizzard is over.
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>>122698835
you didn't believe hard enough in the Hour of Twilight, infidel
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>>122698361
I liked playing artanis before I played LotV, now he just annoys me.
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>>122695637
Theres a lot of Cho'galls queuing, the longer the queue takes it matches you up out of your mmr, either above or below.
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apology for poor english

when were you when john senjinn dies?

i was sat at home AFKing vs ai when enji ring

‘senjinn is kill’

‘no’
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>>122698787
horses confirmed posting on /vg/
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>>122699243
Why? I'm playing the campaign now and Artanis is pretty great in it so far.
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>>122690609
>Compared to all other MOBA's thats really pathetic
No, it is not :D Quality > quantity after all. I will take 10 HotS heroes over the whole champion roster from LeL.
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>>122699683
Fuck off with your leddit "confirmed" meme
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>>122699648
Delete this
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Can I pick Thrall and go chain lighting build and not be terrible?
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>>122700478
Yeah of course. Why would you think otherwise?
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Hey guys, I'm having an issue with Cho'gall. My friend picked Cho, but both Cho and Gall are greyed out for me. When I pick Cho, Gall is circled in green but it's still greyed out and I can't pick either.

Any reason for it? Neither of us unlocked it but my friend can pick either.
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>>122700478
Of course not. What would make you even think that?
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>>122700812
>Any reason for it?
>Neither of us unlocked it
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>>122700478
Chain Lightning is the better build.
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>>122700478
Chain Lightning is the worse build.
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>>122700970
The quest says we have to win 2 games as Cho'gall to unlock the hero. Thing is, my friend hasn't played at all yet and he can select Cho or Gall. I haven't played in a week and I can't select either.

So there must be something I'm missing. How can I unlock it if I can't select it to complete the quest?
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>>122701114
One person has to have him unlocked. If one person does you join a party. The person with him goes ready and the other person can select the other head.

If no one has him unlocked nobody can be him.
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Alright you shitters, Thugdar is back again to give you all your precious cho'gall.

Thugdar#1141 add me and get carried to your free cho'gall.
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>>122669621
it doesn't because the same applies when you have the lead yourself. you can't hold a team down 1v1ing anyone you please 3 levels up early with nova anymore. everyone can mindlessly teamfight even more. a net nothing change

>>122685627
if your team has nothing to set up furnace for 2+

>>122689317
almost everyone has something painful for a 2-player 1-target situation.
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Do you think it's possible to get 15k by the time Lunara is released? I have 15k now but I am thinking of buying Nazeebo + Tyrael.
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>>122701204
Thanks a lot. Someone explained randomly too, apparently you can get it randomly or you have to have purchased a blizzcon ticket.

Thanks for clarifying.
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>see butcher on my team
>think "damn another free week hero player on my team"
>think "well butcher is easy as fuck to play, he probably can't mess this up"
>butcher fucking charges into the enemy team every time and gets fucked in a second
>butcher has less damage than our tyrande and 10 deaths compared to 3~ on everyone else
>end of game, sylvanas says we lost because we had tyrande and not a real healer like rehgar who was on the other team
I just want a qm where I'm not paired with free week heroes, artanis players, or retards, is it that much to ask?
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>>122701350
It's going to take a month. So maybe. Depends on how many games you play and what quests you get.
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>>122689317
Honestly abathur is pretty good depending on the map.

You will out XP them so easily
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>>122701350
You'll definitely have 10k when her price is decreased.
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>>122701414
If it makes you feel better I have like an 80% win rate with Artanis. Maybe you should just get good?
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>>122701619
I have an 80% win rate with all my tanks also, that doesn't mean your average shitter playing artanis isn't totally retarded most of the time
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>>122701350
You have 3 weeks about unless you wait for the price decrease to 10k then you have 5 weeks to save up.

If you don't have that much static gold to get like from leveling your player level and leveling other heroes to level 5 it will probably be slow. I guess you could level a bunch to 9 for the 900g or whatever it is.
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>>122701619
>>122701906
I have an 80% winrate in general and i'm in masters and definitely not bronze. Can you shitters stop ruining my games?
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>>122701906
Maybe you should play Artanis than. That way you won't get the really shitty ones that die like 12 times a game.
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>>122702271
artanis is shitty, I'd rather play any other hero
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>>122702380
>Playing heroes based on tier in quick match.

No hope for you.
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>played hots in beta on ultra settings without a hitch
>reinstall it go give it another go
>graphics capped at low-medium, cant set higher
>people having the same issue are completely ignored on the official forums

What the fuck is this shit? How do I fix it?
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>>122697648
w:muradin
a:tyrande
sup:tyrande
spe:sylvanas
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>>122702621
Try 32 bit client.
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>>122696256
Johanna is bottom 5 wr in masters lad, shes shit in the current meta
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>>122697648
>Warrior
Chen
>Support
Li Li
>Specialist
Chen
>Assassin
Chen
>Meme
Chen
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>>122697996
>Ass
>No Kerrigan or Tyrande
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>>122701520
I want her on release, though

>>122701485
I play a lot, but I have all heroes other than Rexxar and Artanis on Lv. 5, so I am heavily dependent on quests.

>>122702063

Hm... I guess I will play it safe and buy Tyrael for 4k, skipping Nazeebo for now. I want to buy voodoo nigger, but geez 10k is a lot for a 300 months old hero.
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name a hero more essential than Muradin

>stuns everywhere
>imba survivability ult w/ autoattack stun thrown in
>good escape/engage abilities
>good crowd control W w/ area snare build in

literally best hero in the game
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>>122703090
I'll give it 2 weeks until the price decreases, as I wont be able to pick her in HL because everyone wants her, and QM will take forever to find a game.
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>>122703090
10k is a lot for anything after they bitch slapped jaina out of nowhere
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is anyone else disappointed by the lack of special lines for Cho'gall? I guess it's to be expected since he's before the time of every Warcraft character except for Uther (and Greymane when he comes) but it's kind of lame that he doesn't have any good start or kill banter
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>>122703229
True, but up to Lv. 5 I only play vs. A.I so I can get used to the hero and get to Lv. 5 as fast as possible. Greymeme though, I will wait until he drops to 10k before buying him. Hell, after Sylvanas, I am not sure if I should be buying any heroes for anything over 10k, but I really want Lunara so w/e.

Anyways, is Tyrael worth the 4k? Where does he function better in a match and what are his essential talents and best ult?
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>>122703456
Level 5 is literally 6 games, not sure if the extra 5k gold (half a hero) is worth it in my opinion.

Anything's worth 4k, Tyrael has it's place but his mana costs are still far too high. Kind of a disappointing hero.
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>>122703247
Yeah that was random. Wish they had dropped the price for Nazeebo or Abathur instead. Don't care about generic blond girl.
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>>122703247
She did come out around this time last year, so that was probably the reason for the price change.
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I honestly can't believe there is no Grommash or Garrosh in this game. Or Tirion.
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>>122703757
Nazeebo came out 4 years ago and is still 10k.

The motherfucker.
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Anyone need cho'gall?

US RedCapeDiver#1217
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>>122703832
All those characters are stupid and I hate them
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>>122703832
>no Grommash or Garrosh
it hurts
>or Tirion
fuck that mary sue nigga
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>>122703832
What's a Tirion?
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>>122703757
I think it's because she is really popular and gets played a lot in tournaments, they wanted to give more people access to her. 10k is a lot especially for a new player.
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>>122704024
>>122704007

He has Ashbringer until Legion

Besides, Thrall is in the game. Tirion Fordring has nothing on his Mary Sue level.
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>>122703832
>Only 3 Protoss.

Why does the game possess so many lesser beings?
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Is Rexxar fun or am I going to regret this?
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>level 15
>queue up to play
>in queue for 10 minutes
So.....
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>>122704297
Placement games.
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>>122704286
I like him, and he's actually pretty good in a double warrior group.
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>>122704169
>wanting Tirion
>not Lothar
>not Alexandros
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>>122704267
>Only one archangel

Why does Blizzard hate the cool Diablo characters?
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>>122704169
>Besides, Thrall is in the game. Tirion Fordring has nothing on his Mary Sue level.
at least Thrall started as an interesting, well written character. from the beginning of Tirion's plot relevancy, he's constantly the savior of everyone he gets near and the source of all his power is quite literally being holier-than-thou, which grates after awhile

also Ashbringer is a memesword and no one cared about it after vanilla until Legion came out
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>>122704507

his vanilla chain was great though...
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>>122704507
Did you miss the whole Tirion and Eitrigg story? He wasn't always a massive mary sue.
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>>122702605
nothing to do with tier, artanis is just a shit hero, period
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>>122704507
Tirion was fine before Wotlk
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>>122704696

he's good

he has good burst, his shield trait is amazing, his e is good if you can aim

good tank, ofc not muradin tier because muradin is op as fuck but he's on par with most
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icecrown citadel map WHEN
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>>122704879
>on par with most
just like diablo huh
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Why does Rehgar have a low win percentage?
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>>122704936

no because diablo has no damage

artanis can shit out a lot of damage very quickly and on a very short cd
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>>122703285
I think we'll have to wait for Gul'dan for some unique dialogue.

Aside from that, when I was playing Cho'gall, I swear to god I think I heard Chall say "YES! WE ARE HEROES OF THE STOOORM!" when we had gotten the appropriate killstreak count. I believe THAT is unique, right? I've never noticed anybody else having special dialogue when that happens.
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>>122704507
Wrath baby detected.

Vanilla through TBC Tirion was a crazy hermit who gave us Khadgar level quests and we had to help him reclaim his honor and save his son from the crusades lies.
>HOWDY ADVENTURER GO GET ME 15 LARVA MEET
>THEN KILL ME 30 PLAGUEBATS
>NOT DONE YET NOW GO KILL AT LEAST 35 DIFFERENT TYPES OF PLAGUE HOUND
>YEE HAW THAT'S GOOD EATEN
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>>122705050
artanis is trash, any time I play a hero like tyrande with him he's always pulling people out of my flares, fucking garbage
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>>122693875
>Deathwing
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>>122704978
He really sucks at what he should be doing.
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>>122705050
Have you even fucking played Diablo lately? The things you idiots say sometimes seriously amazes me.
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Where is Tirion?
Where is Gorefiend?
Where is Grom?
Where is Orc Blademaster Hero?
Where is Kel'Thuzad?

Cho'gall is fine, but Greymane? A dryad OC? Seriously? I bet the dryad won't even have the human mating call joke.
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>>122695570
>Onyxia
>Not Deathwing
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>>122705383
>He's shit cause I can't hit my stuns.

I don't think he's all that great, but that's only because other people can do what he can do better. I just like to play him because he's fun. If he got Charge at base or earlier I think he'd be really fucking good.
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>>122705585
>wowshit
literally who?
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>>122704978
He's just a healbot that doesn't have hard cc
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>>122705050
>diablo
>no damage
Motherfucker what?
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>>122705585
>didn't list literal legends Lothar and Orgrim

Fuck you
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>>122705050
I like Artanis as well but that's just wrong. Diablo is all about being a bruiser. He can do some crazy damage. His problem his he has no way to get out and no way to keep himself alive.
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>>122702890

Already doing that, its not a windows 10 problem.
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Playing Cho'Gall for the first time, how come I can't always use E? It's greyed out 99% of the time.
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>>122705538
>>122705680

pls m8s cut it out
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>>122705791
average bronze player everyone, take a good look, you're gonna see a lot of 'em
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>>122705778
Maybe a graphics driver issue?
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>>122705585
Where is Rohana?
Where is Selendis?
Where is Karax?
Where is Alarak?
Where is Ma'lash?
Where is Fenix?
Where is Adun?
Where is Aldaris?
Where is Raszagal?
Where is Vorazun?
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>>122706040

How that would literally make the game to lock me on low settings?
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>>122705934
So it's the Cho's fault? The ability only says "press to detonate", but whenever I can detonate, it seems like there is a different animation going on.

I'm a fairly new player so I don't really know what's going on regarding Cho.
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>>122706229
Cho throws out a bomb. Gall detonates the bomb. If Cho doesn't throw the bomb, Gall can't detonate the bomb.
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>>122706375
Derp, makes sense. Does Cho have any other abilities? Appears this guy barely ever uses the bomb.
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>>122706479
He's got the charging punch and an aoe burn attack.
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>>122704057
she's so one dimensional and fragile, and already in every other game. half the roster should be cut to 4 or 7k before her. obviously people will get her anyway.

>>122704286
he's fine if you play him like a ranged assassin with a bear assistant.
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>>122706201
Because it's potentially the same as not having a graphics card.

Post to customer support.
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got 7k and looking for a new support or warrior
who should i buy
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>>122706767
C H E N
H
E
N
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>>122706620
I think Jaina is really fun, being fragile is just part of being a ranged assassin most of the time. The fun part about her is she has to play a bit riskier than other ranged assassins, but has a good reward for that.
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>>122706767
Arthas
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>>122706767
Tyrande
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>Zagara press W to force your opponent out of lane and "Salamander Normies" is on the free weak along with lili

Is this the week of no fun allowed? Also Rehgar and Cho gall on the same team shouldnt be allowed.
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>>122706767
Uther or Tyrande.
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>>122706767
Tyrande, she is a support but you play her more like an utility assassin with healing capabilities. You have different viable specs, so if you want to go full healing you can, full damage you are an assassin, a mix of the two or even owl spec which is so fun. She combos so well with other heroes, making heroes like diablo and arthas good and fits most team comps.

Her versatility and how viable most of her talents are makes her great to play, it's like getting several different heroes in one.
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>>122707147
>Is this the week of no fun allowed?
I'm having lots of fun playing Cho'gall and bringing Twilight on the lesser beings
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>tfw you get a full lvl 20 SSS on Cho'gall
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Lets come up with some new multi-player heroes.

>One person is Arthas the other player is Frostmourne.
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>>122707147

what's up with that combo? some shenanigans with chain heal?
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>>122707428
One person is Metzen the other is cocaine.
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>>122707428

one player is onyxia

the other is her tail. tail W is "birth whelps"
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>>122707581
Do they just sit in base all game together?
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>>122707483
I think he means the ultimate heal on Cho'gall is never a waste because he has a fucking huge hp pool.

It would be hilarious if the lvl 20 talent aoe heal would work on Cho'gall.
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>>122707428
>one player is me
.the other is my gf
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>>122707483
Its just me being petty. Fighting that thing and it suddenly goes from almost dead to near full health again.
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>>122707428
One player is the Overmind who sits in base creates buildings and soldiers.

The other controls the soldiers that the Overmind creates.
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>>122707798
>tfw Me and my team killed a Cho'Gall like 3 times before Rehgar could get the heal off in one match.

Was pretty great.
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>>122707901
Thus the RTS genre will born again from MOBA. The circle is complete.
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>>122707428

Twin Emperors from AQ40. You can walk away on your own but that would make you fucking worthless.
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fuck this, idgaf about cho'gall i think he's a shitty gimmick hero

i'm done until i stop seeing his fat ass in every fucking game
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>>122708035
Archon MP is pretty great.
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>>122706118
Who are these?
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>>122707428
>one player is Gazh'rilla
>2 players are his other 2 heads
>carrot on a stick ultimate
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>>122708216
I'm already seeing him less and less.
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>>122706479
Watch the spotlight.
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>>122706767
chen and you can be bad at both
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>>122693978
>only
isn't that better than most of the player base then?
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>>122708112
this one i want

even the thought of updated twin emps models gets me hard
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Did the game explode with muh toxicity after the new patch because of kbs?
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>>122708582
I haven't noticed anything different.
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>>122708582
Everyone is still too busy giving a fuck about Cho'Gall

Once the new car smell wears off they'll go back to giving a fuck about stats
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>>122708325
Someone from the 2 remaining players must hit the gong everytime before he can respawn.
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>>122708216
already had some AI games without him. the weekend might be different but after that it should trail off unless he really is broken
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>>122659252
>feeder nova
Jesus christ that's bad.
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>>122708216
He's really strong. The problem is he is definitely a bruiser and you can't duo tank with him since he already takes two slots.
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>>122708112
This is actually the best idea.
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>>122706951
Chen is the most fun I've ever had in any moba.
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>>122657227
this is an important question
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>>122709475
What are you talking about hes a Warrior/Assassin. Theres plenty of room for another warrior on the team.
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>>122659252
>no cho'gall in your team
Lucky bastard
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>>122709475
i don't care if he's strong or a bruiser or whatever the fuck

i don't want him on my team or the enemy's team, he's a gimmick hero and will never actually be useful
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Which Tyrael ult is better?
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hows a nigga supposed to build cho and gall
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Anyone giving away big ogre man? I have no friends to help me get it.
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>>122710475
I'm in the same boat. I just wanna get him unlocked.
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>>122710475
>go in general chat
>"I need cho'gall"
>1billion invites
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>>122710475
NA or EU?

I will pick Gall and you just beat the bots while I'm AFK if you want
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>>122709829
Not really. The point of running two bruisers is to alternate bodies while generating assassin levels of pressure still. Cho'gall can't do that effectively since if Cho sticks around, you'll lose Gall and anyone with percentage based damage will severely destroy him since he's got a large health pool.

It's fine until you get maps where you need to hold nodes and currency, then he can't contend with just letting Gall poke a bunch.
>>122709858
Well you're wrong. Cho'gall is actually tremendously fun. Only thing that's really imbalanced is Gall's range.
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>>122707428

yogg saron

main player is in base, he spawns 2 different types of tentacles (one sweeping aoe, the other area stun + dmg) and can cast a spell that makes enemy mercs or minions switch teams to fight for yogg saron until they hit 10% hp or 30 seconds passes

second player is a copy of a random enemy hero. he takes 25% more damage from enemy heroes that aren't the copy target. he deals 50% more damage to the copy target. he has a cloak ability for D and can navigate enemy gates. his Q is the copy target's Q. ult is an ability that makes everyone appear to a targeted enemy as an enemy and they all look like the target for 8 seconds -- meaning aoe spells damage friendlies+enemies, healing can't be targeted
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Anyone on EU doesn't have Cho and would like to team up? I own it and need to do the 4 wins quest.

Post IGN and I will invite, first come first served.
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>>122710681
I'd be ok with an Old God hero because it'd give Cho'gall someone to have dialogue with
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>game is going to be filled with these "raid boss" heroes
>not a single one of them will be a cool raid boss

just kill me
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>>122710792
chogall is a buyer's market by now m8
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>>122710878
I just want to do the 4 wins, go make a smurf account mang.
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>>122710610
I'm EU, that would be great if you're EU too, thanks
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>>122710626
fun =/= useful

playing nova can be "fun" but it doesn't mean she's useful
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>>122710792
Caelus#2486
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Something just struck me, there's nothing worse than giving a free hero in this game, especially a hero like this. The game is basically dead for several months ahead because of this.
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lmao wtf they added cho'gath to this game? Riot games is gonna sue
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>>122711190
>dead for several months
>new map next week
>lunara and greymane coming up

What are you talking about m8?
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>>122711237
>posting general chat tier bait
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>>122711351

greymane looks fun as fuck too
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>>122711351
I mean you wont see a game without that piece of shit Cho'gall sucking up two slots, four in QM, as there'll always be someone who just got him. That's garbage.
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>>122704879
How is Muradin a tank? No one focuses him.
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>>122711564
>not liking Cho'gall
reddit please
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i feel like Cho'Gall was only brought in to try and appease to the soft skin crowd of players

the ones who are too afraid to solo queue, the ones that can't make decisions on their own and need someone handholding them (or hell, playing as Gall, just have someone else handle the positioning for you, so it basically becomes a rail-shooter (minus the shooter) or so it's not actually YOU that's making the bad positioning, the blame is one someone else)

played like 30 games today, all the Cho'Gall games have been with some dude playing Cho and his autistic spineless friend playing as Gall. the autistic friend doing literally nothing but spamming "oops" "sorry" "i'm not that good at mobas" and other retarded shit that literally no one gives a fuck about

some faggots need to grow a spine and fucking play a real hero instead of this "omg we're so innovative we have a character controlled by 2 people so you can split the blame and not get your feeling hurt as much" bullshit
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>>122711564
It'll die down. The people who don't already have him are the ones who barely play or care about the game so at most they play 4-5 games and then leave again. He's also quite shit so no one will want to play him soon once the official word is out that he sucks.
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>>122711736
u wot m8
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>>122711778
It's still a lot of games, there's a shit ton of players playing those 4-5 games. It'll die down eventually, but the event itself is lasting 6 weeks. I don't like playing against that character or having him on my team, so it's just pain to have to play around him constantly.
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>>122711736
>samefagging
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>>122711736
>playing with Galls that don't use their Z
>playing with Galls that don't kill people before their Cho is in danger
wood league
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>cho'gall players who actually think they are a raid boss and will run into 5

why
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>>122711736
No. What the fuck? I can guarantee this hero came to be because some designers at blizzard were like "You know what would be cool? A hero that literally requires two people to play" "Okay, how could we make that work?" (cue weeks of designing, prototyping, and playtesting).
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>>122712276
It took them fucking 3 years to get him out of development hell.
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>>122712225
The video said you would be like a raid boss
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>I'M READY TO SERVE, MY MASTER
>Um, I'm, I'm not ready
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>>122711237
I had a game with someone that said that honestly, then when everyone called him a dumb ass he tried to spin it like he was calling riot unoriginal, pretty pathetic
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>>122712369
We don't know anything about his kit from 3 years ago. He could have been a completely different single player hero. It was most likely that he got prototyped with a build that the designers weren't too excited about, then more exciting heroes came along and he just sort of got forgotten.
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>>122712392
Yep an LFR raid boss.
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>>122712405
>are you waiting for a "two heads are better than one joke?
>(better than none maybe!)
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/vg/ thoughts on Chogall ?

just played with friend as Gall and we had a lot of fun desu
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>>122712706
Maybe he was a full warlock-warrior even up to months ago, but then Gul'dan went into development.
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>>122712782
A garbage meme hero. Cho'gall could have been cool if they just made it a fun one player hero instead of this shit.
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>>122711145
She is useful against the right comps.
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>>122712782
He's fun when you are talking with a friend. I found he's actually pretty good at showing them how to play the game better, it's easier than just telling them how to position and when is a good time to get a camp when they can just sit there as gall and see what you are doing.
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>>122712782
He is useful against the right comps.
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anyone on US that has cho'gall willing to team up for a couple quick ai matches?
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>1 win off r1
>nova fp
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>want to play qm in peace
>get a chogall
>have to play around chogall all game
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what is this nonsense
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>>122713335
It's a bad feel anon. He's really not fun to play with.
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>>122713242
you need him?
post bnet
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>>122713492
Azraille#1411
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>>122713462
It's not fun to play with, against it or play it. It's just a meme. Everyone is forced to play a crap game if he is in it.

Reminder to pick Raynor, Valla, Kharazim untill this shit is contained.
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>>122713787
Agreed. Too bad he whacks Vallas shit with the undodgeable flame attack and other shit.

Butchers 10% damage on the charge and Artanis' 7.5% combo however work great.
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>>122713787
>Cho'gall isn't fun to play
confirmed for no friends
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>>122713787

he is super fun when you are playing with friend and you are using some voice comm.

you do have friends,right anon ?
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>play valla with giant killer and blood for blood
>use BFB on cho
>i get 80% of my health back instantly
this is going to be a fun 3 weeks
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>>122714586
>play Cho'gall
>get balance4balance'd
>pop W
>all my health comes back
>Gall immediately kills the guy through his heal anyway
ez
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Guys, what if Garrosh's ultimate is to summon a bunch of Patron?
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>>122714361
>>122714426

I mostly play duo because otherwise this game would be unbearable.

Cho'gall gets boring superfast. You don't need voice chat for anything other than upheaval+nether combo. We like the flexiblity of having two seperate heroes. It's like people forgot that you can actually work together with any 2 heroes instead of literally playing a symbiote.
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>>122713450
the portrait there tracks your progression
you brawl with a buddy as cho'gall
once you win two games as cho'gall you receive cho'gall as a hero reward

>>122714426
good thing they got voice into the game so quickly
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>>122715292
I think he already has Cho'Gall unlocked but the quest is still there, the same is happening to me
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>>122715061
I liked the idea that guy had before about his ults incorporating MoP/WoD stuff like Y'saarj corruption or summoning AU characters
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>Do HL to escape all the Cho'gall faggotry
>Our team gets first pick
>Teammate with first pick immediately selects Gall
>"Can't first pick Cho'gall, mate"
>Still has Gall selected as time is dwindling down
>Whole team is now in a panic explaining to this faggot why he can't select him
>Clearly retarded
>Time runs up
>Gets Sgt Hammer from random
>"Wtf I didn't choose Hammer"

Like fuck this.
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Lei Shen when?
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>>122716526
Lee Sin is from LoL
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Is Nazeebo cute and fun?
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>>122716376
Kerrigan has nice lips

speaking of which, why don't we have this version of Kerrigan as a skin yet?
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>>122716582
I didn't say Lee Sin.
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>>122716652
Because she looks like a nigger there.
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>>122716652
You don't want to see ghost Kerrigan whacking people with a sniper rifle.
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I can't believe some of you retards actually still play this shit, it's so extremely shallow. You experience everything it has to offer in one month or so and it has very little room for personal improvement.
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>>122716629
yes, very. Not as cute and fun as Cho'gall though
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>>122716705
all those chinks are the fucking same faggot
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>>122716376
If she reverted back to a human then why does she have nigger hair?
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>>122716764
>You don't want to see ghost Kerrigan whacking people with a sniper rifle.

but if she's a ghost, how can you see her?
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>>122716840
nigger hair and the nigger skin tone, too.

hot
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is there a "le x man" meme for Cho'Gall yet?
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>>122716860
if Arthas's horse is named Invincible, why can you see it?
>>122716840
she always had nigger hair
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>>122716787
No they aren't. Lee Sin is a human and Lei Shen is a mogu so not a chink at all actually.
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>>122716951
She was a redhead with straight hair o.O
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>>122716965
Mogu are actually Mongolian so he is Asian.
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>>122656271
>not turning the sound down and playing your own music
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>>122716951
what? she has red hair, jimmy has a pic with her nice smooth red hair.
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>>122716951
>she always had nigger hair
Of course she didn't
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>>122717020
Mongolia doesn't exist in the Warcraft Universe so its impossible for him to be mongolian.
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>>122717001
>>122717061
>>122717150
dyed red dreadlocks maybe
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>>122717278
sure, but cinematics say otherwise
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>>122717195
Yeah well Mogu didn't exist until the Titans created them so checkmate atheist
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>>122716652

Pls Blizz
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>>122717278
Hm... I dunno. I think they just changed her to nigger because "diversity".
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Nova is fun
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>>122717662
is she cute too?
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>>122717662
Stop triggering me
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>>122717603
>that action figure
Archangel Kerrigan would be a much cooler skin than Archangel Diablo
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>>122717662
And cute!
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>>122717729
Super cute
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>>122717603
Looks bloody awful
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>>122717603
yeah, see?
she's missing her blade wings while she's been cleansed and human again, but you can add in those mechanized wings instead, that'd be totally fine

instead we have some retarded Addam's family style shit skin
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>no gnome hero
>no kobold hero
>no iron dwarf hero
>no blood elf hero
>no broken hero
>no troll hero
>no lost one hero
>no vrykul hero
>no taunka hero
>no tuskarr hero
>no yaungol hero
>no arakkoa hero
>no centaur hero
>no fel orc hero
>no furbolg hero
>no gorloc hero
>no harpy hero
>no magnataur hero
>no makrura hero
>no naga hero
>no qiraji hero
>no quilboar hero
>no sporeling hero
>no wolvar hero
>no ethereal hero
>no mogu hero
>no jinyu hero
>no hozen hero
>no wildkin hero

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE DIVERSITY. ALL RACES MUST BE INCLUDED.
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>>122717603
I would use that skin
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>>122717880
>no centaur hero

we're getting Lunara so... there's that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>122717459
Your mom didn't exist until the titans shat out the mogu and then your mom was the little turd that followed to finish the shit.
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>>122717880
>no blood elf hero
We have Kael'thas

>no fel orc hero
We have two green orcs in the game though
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>>122718040
green orcs=/=fel orcs
>>
>buy Naz with gold
>instantly regret not getting stitches in stead even though i'm bad and think naz is more fun

r-refund
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>>122718092
What is wrong with Nazebra?
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>>122717993
A dryad is not a CENTAUR. Learn the difference you ignorant scum. I bet you think Blacks and Hispanics are the same as well.
>>122718040
Fel Orcs are not green orcs my god fuck you. Diversity is required.
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>>122717995
That was pretty bad.

Just like your dad last night.
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>>122718090
They are orcs who have been tanked by the fel to have green skin. Of course they are fel orcs.
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>>122718156
>I bet you think Blacks and Hispanics are the same as well.

if the metric is how much they contribute to society....
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>>122717729
>>122717778
>>122717782

I hope you memers get sniped.
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>>122718156
Centaur's are just the male version of dryads.
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>>122717880
>>no wildkin hero
would mean taking Moonfire away from Malfurion
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>>122717023
I have the music muted and listening to my own music.
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>>122718208
No.

Brown Orcs - Untainted and pure
Green Orcs - Drank demon blood just once
Fel Orcs - Have drank blood twice or more, they are addicts and very powerful.
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>>122718308
no
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>>122718280
Nothing personal
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>>122718418
>and very powerful.
>tfw no Grom to chat with Illidan about how much they miss Chaos damage
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>>122718308
Keepers are the male versions of Dryads.
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>>122718376
SAME!!
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>>122718418
The difference between fel and green is they drank more than once! So Grom is a fel orc whenever he gets put in.
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>no diablo 1/2 heroes
>no rock n roll racing hero
>no lost vikings hero
>no blackthorne hero
literally why would anyone play this game
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>>122718308
butthatswrongyoufuckingretard.jpg
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>>122718418
Barely any difference between green and fel, green are still tainted by the fel to have green skin. You are just splitting hairs at this point
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>>122718492
Then you also need to count human Arthas.
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>>122707428
Hippogryph rider
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>>122718665
>>no diablo 1/2 heroes
Leoric and Butcher ;^)
>>no lost vikings hero
ebin b8 m8
>>
so, rehgar is shit huh?
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>>122718792
meant player characters and leorics from d3
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>>122718929
>I got carried 11 times so he's good
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>>122718665
>No Lost Vikings hero
>>
>>122718929
>my parents are bothering me

underage
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>>122718665
Diablo is the D2 version
>>
>>122718929
Tell your senpai to fuck off, mate
>>
>>122718929
Snacks is back!
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Anyone on EU need cho? Post IGN for some quick AI games.
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>>122719079
either one of the main enemies or one of the vikings themselves
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>>122718092
gotta be the worst value in the game right now at 10k. not really special or very desirable. makes chen look like a deal.
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>>122719272
are you actually retarded or merely pretending?
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>>122717880
>no quilboar hero

Aren't orcs already pig men? Or is that hog men.
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>>122719272
Have I got news for you retard
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>>122719710
Don't lure the poor kid with that deviantart piece of shit fanart. Lost Vikings is a dead series, it'll never get into the game.
>>
>>122718929
why is /vg/ so shit at this game. git gud.
>>
>>122718963
Leoric is from d1

but really it's his d3 implementation like the rest of the diablo characters

>>122719151
is right though
>>
>>122719852
Damn you caught me. I even made a fan video and everything
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>>122719947
Fuck your SFM bullshit, we all know your tricks, get outta here
>>
>>122718929

I'd rather a Morales desu. When she was free, I had some great fun healing with them. I'd end up with 100k healing typically at the end of a match. Think that's gonna be my next buy.


Also, would anyone AI Cho with me? I'd like to fuck around with him.

I'm on NA.
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>>122720031
the thing is, no matter how well made SFM looks, they always get the hands wrong

it never looks like they're actually gripping anything, instead it just looks like whatever they're holding is to glued to their palms
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>>122718929
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>>122720524
If you have him, I still need him, invite Scootermouse.
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>>122720609

I don't have him.

>>122720537

that's because their poses are shitty made
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>>122720537
Simply because it doesn't have the function to soften up models when they collide with things. It's a piece of shit beginners software, not even slightly comparable to Blizzards real deal.
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>>122720690
well then...
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>>122720905

I had to delete it before mods banned me for posting a spoilered image on a imageboard that has gore, and everything 1 click away
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>>122721073
i just didn't expect that expression on her face as she took care of her business with me at gunpoint
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>Your team's E.T.C. picked Stage Dive
>>
New thread where?
>>
>>122721339
like 8 more posts atleast, friend
>>
>>122721461
Oh come on, where is the Sonya fag when you need him.
>>
>>122721563
it takes fucking hours to hit page ten, even once bump limit is hit, early threads tigger me, Anon
>>
>cho'gall is broken as fuck
Why can't blizzard balance for jack shit
>>
>>122667339
Yeah by far easiest hero I've ever seen in a video game. Blizzard are faggots.
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>>122721676
you mean super weak, broken, right?
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>>122721315
as someone who has played 2 games of ETC, i can tell you that sometimes it's actually a better choice to get Stage Dive on larger maps or against enemy teams where they've got a fuck ton of reliable CC (like Johanna's W, Raynor's Q, etc.) and they're smart enough to make sure at least one of them is out of range for your Mosh Pit

but then again, i'm just a shitter on /hotsg/ what do i know?
>>
>>122721676
just play monk, leo or anyone with giant killer.
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>>122721876
kill yourself retard
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>>122721981
>>122721981
>>122721981
>>122721981
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anyone wanna share Cho? I need to add some memes to my hero pool
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>>122719151
it's like a 2.5 version. like something they pulled out of development as an old WC3 extra and spruced up. an ogre demon half breed, slow and fat, over muscled.
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>>122721303

she wants you to clean it up
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>>122722083
I'll play some games if you need to unlock him. What's your ID?
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>>122721876
Does Stage Dive have global range?
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Anyone need the ogre ass? I'm about to play a few games.
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>>122721876
Stage dive is good on maps like Dragon Shire, but Mosh Pit is still better if the enemy team has little displacement.
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