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Autograph edition.

Previous: >>122596168


>[OKEANOS]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20151105
- Scenario written by higashide and nasu (only drake's lines)
- Medea Lily (4*) is the stage unlock servant
- David (3*) is the stage reward servant

>[Drake gatcha event]
November 5 (Thursday) 19:00 to November 18 (Wed) 13:59 JST
- Rate up in the Story gatcha for the new servants and CEs:
- 5*: Francis Drake
- 4*: Anne Bonney & Mary Read
- 3*: Hector, David, Euryale
- 3* Golden Hind, 4* Extra Rin, 5* Hakuno M, 5* Hakuno F CEs
- No need to complete Okeanos to unlock them
- They will not be removed after the event ends


>[Chaldea Gate Renewal]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20151110
November 18 (Wednesday) 16:00 JST
- Mana prisms will be reset every week
- New 40ap version for all the quests
- New quests (see link)
- No more Master Training, but you can farm free quests for that:
(Okeanos) 18 AP for 12.5k, 17 AP for 9.8k/8.1k


>News and Reminders
- Latest changes (11/11)
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20151111
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20151104d
- Regular Maintenance: Every Wed from 14:00 to 16:00 JST

- Comptiq's interview with Higashide and Sakurai (about London)
http://pastebin.com/ipaXkpd2
http://imgur.com/a/jCif2

- Incoming maintenance
http://typemoon.com/news/2015/ek8qgn
http://pastebin.com/czN069f5
(2 apoloquartz)


>Dropmaps [Now with Okeanos]
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ - Under renovation!
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>Data Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WI4dKGcwWjn5XpTgfLsK8c0cipRzrWbVpiLGeVr55Ks/htmlview?sle=true
http://pastebin.com/jtxyf37T (toaster version)

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/
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Xth for Euryale the cutest!
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EVIL WITCH
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>>122644230
Ded gsme, ded thread
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Of all the companies to land the Fate IP, it had to be these literally who retards who can't even shit out a mediocre mobage
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3 runs of 40AP and 1 run of 30AP and not a single Chimera.
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Reminder that smart people use cheat apk to save time farming
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>>122644401
Welcome to hell, enjoy your stay
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Xth for the UNRIVALED
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Late night Ozzy posting.
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>>122644396

>these are the same people that will make the type moon musou game

God help us all
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First for based cheat apk master race.
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Is it just me or did they clean up Arondight shitty crop job a bit
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>>122644475
why won't they release you already?
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>>122644423
>>122644504
Reminder that cheat apk users are hypocrites and scum.
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>>122644230
>all those faggots who were so sure that there would be lots of easy chimeras to farm
>kept saying that last round would be servants and that any chimeras would only appear randomly
>people shit post about "you forgot to mention your dad works for nssu"
Ahahahahahahaha, whos laughing now?
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>>122644401
>people saying 40AP is pretty much a guaranteed monument
>do three runs, get nothing but pieces
I don't even want or need monuments, but I still feel insulted.
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>>122644512
Oh yeah they did. Almost looks like it wasn't just copy pasted anymore.
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>>122644547
Reminder that you willfully gimp yourself by not using based cheat apk
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Octuplet crystals are still fucking rare
1 in 32 runs
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>>122644563
6 runs here, 4 monuments, 1 talon and god knows how many skill stones.
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>>122644512
They did mention they were going to fix up Lancelot and Drake's sprites this maint.
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>>122644546
The long wait is but a test to see how patient his subjects are. But I shall hold firm and continue to eagerly await the arrival of my King.

Ra give me strength.
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>>122644673
Remember you said that when you eventually get banned.
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>>122644775
Well it is double great success event so thats not that rare.
Check last thread, there been heaps of people getting lots of great success whilst leveling.


Reminder /fgog/ that if you're going to level up anything, do it this week, double great success chance for servants and CE.
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>>122644875
>le banned meme
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>>122644702
What'd they even fix from Drake's?
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>>122644875
>le banned meme
Fuck off to Reddit already.
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Finally max leveled my Euryale.

691,532,789 if anyone wants to use her.
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Anyone got a gold skill stone? Haven't seen them on any screenshot or got one myself. I don't really care about monuments anymore.
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>>122644905
>need tons of caster exp
>need talons
>need prisms
i-is it time to start spending those apples?
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>>122644905

They should have made this during the Okeanus rate up.
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>yfw all those people who shitposted about new dailies being worse for ascension hell was right
Whats that, you need chaos talons? Too bad theres not even assured chimeras anymore.
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>>122644921
>>122644967
>They think DW's going to let this shit slide forever
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>>122644939
Don't know. Didn't even know Drake had a graphic bug.
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>>122645025
Yea goy, use them all up before christmas.
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>>122644673
You're welcome to use it, but I don't see the point of playing then:
Battles are meaningless so rolling or training characters is pointless.
Ascending characters for the images is retarded since you can get the same value out of google with minimal effort.
What is exactly the point of playing the game stripped of all its gameplay elements?
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>>122645036
I've gotten more talons in the past 20 minutes than in two weeks of farming Germania.
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>>122645036
I told you bro.

I tried to. I really do.
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>>122645036
Chimeras in the skill dailies used to be practically assured skill stones, though. There was no reason to do it over the free quest.
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>>122645036
Low chance for talons and no golden skill cookies, just monuments which they gave out a ton already. I'm just gonna farm Exp/prisms.
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>>122645126
rolling the gatcha
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>Maintenance is over
>Check the gacha campaign
>It's full of guys this time(Waver, Siegfried, Alexander, Proto Cu, Lancelot)

Even if it has Lancelot Rate-Up, I still wont roll...
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>>122645036
See
>>122644562
Bet you're one of those faggots who memed with "you dad works at nasu lelelelle xd".
I'm enjoying your tears so much.
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What's next? Farming hearts and reverse scales now impossible?
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>>122645126
Getting your waifu
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>Literally the first gacha event where I don't even feel tempted to roll a single for fun
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>>122645243
T-Thanks Davinci.
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■対応内容
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※対象のクエストは下記になります。
・水曜 狂の修練場 上級
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※クリスタルゴーレムから得られる戦利品が「狂の秘石」ではなく「狂の魔石」になっている不具合を修正いたします。
・その他の不具合がないか、現在調査を行っております。
調査完了後にあらためて報告させていただきます。

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So, this shit has been bothering me for quite a few weeks.
What the fuck is that purple shit floating next to my alter?
Is my game haunted by the spirit of a pissed off misty lancelot?
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>>122645232
>chimeras are a random mob
90% sure demons and fafnir will be too if they're consistent. But than again its DW.
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>>122645284
No golden skill cookies is a bug, that's what I thought.
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>>122645284
>DW in charge of testing
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>>122645126
Stockpiling quartz and tickets for when your waifu comes out. Use your brain, anon.
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>maintenance
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>>122645194
>>122645236
>>122645434
For what? What are you going to do with the card?
Watch it? Use danbooru. Listen to the lines? Just search them on youtube.
What exactly is the point on getting your waifu and never actually using her?
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>Emergency maintenance when they barely added shit
There's the DW I remember
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Well at any rate, the FAQ need to be updated as well.
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>>122645481
>apologems
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>>122645354
So if you don't farm for talons now you'll never get them
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>Sudden maintenance just as I was about to buy my tickets

Just fuck my shit up senpai
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>>122645519
I don't understand this meme.
The whole point of cheat apk is that those who use it have full freedom to choose when to play with normal apk and when to play with cheat apk.
If you like grinding repetitive content than thats up to you but please don't push your values onto others.
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>>122645542
You mean apples
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>>122645315
And I thought I was the only one. It just stays there, even during the NPs.
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>Do you know what happens after maintenance ends?
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>maintenance to add in skill gems to fuck over anyone wanting talons
Fuck you to goddamn hell dw. I only needed one more to ascend liz too
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>lvl 80 support arturia with full hp
>one-shot by sir gargles
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>>122645542
>mfw trying to fix some small bugs DW fucks up
>emergency maintenance is extended for hours
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>>122645628
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>>122645628
Maintenance starts again senpai
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>>122645519
>assuming I'll be using the cheat apk forever even after I get my waifu

Do you even have a brain?
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>>122645613
Don't you ever feel extra retarded calling anything you don't agree with "a meme"?
Or is your brain just mush?
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What the fuck, another maint?
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ITS UP
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>>122645757
They forgot to put in skill gems as a droppable
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This game fucking sucks
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>>122645748
Oh the irony
Your previous arguement is a meme since its a flaw filled strawmen arguement using non-connective logic
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>>122645646
'>>122645832
>now both the Chimera and talon WON'T be guaranteed
Impressive.
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>>122645801
the only thing that's up is your time left in this world if you keep doing this
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>>122645885
Actually it only effects golems supposedly

I feel sorry for you if you wanted the jawbreakers though
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>>122645919
ow the edge
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>>122645885
Neither was guaranteed before, idiot
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>>122645613
I never understood anti-cheat apk and cheat apk arguers.
If you like something than okay. Go ahead and do it but son't push your shitty ideals onto others and think they have to agree with you too.
Some like to actually play the game but take awhile, some like to speed though dailies whilst wiating for something new and exciting. One has no risk, the other has minor risk. Etc. etc.
Both are equally valid playstyles.
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>>122645315
I've only ever seen this after fighting Flauros/Forneus, so I've been inclined to think it's a graphical glitch caused by one of their attacks.

It always fixes for me after a clean restart of the app.
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>>122645995
Understanding both sides is reasonable. Reasonable is unacceptable in this place.
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>>122645995
"then" and "than" are 2 different words mate.
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Anyone have that siegfried gatcha event pic?
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The text says they're fixing crystal golems so tthat they drop the right kind of stone, they're not adding them.
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>>122645995
The problem is that there are people that use the cheat apk and then shitpost about it, and act like they're doing nothing wrong and not risking a future ban.
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>>122645995
>he expects logic to work in this shit tflinging general
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Wait is it 10 new tickets or the old tickets got renewed? I just want to know if I missed the chance of maximun efficiency on my gem saving stashed accounts
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>>122646278
10 new ones. i still have my old tickets
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>>122645995
>trying to reason here
Anon, shit is literally everywhere in these threads. No one would be arguing about the cheat apk if the fags using them weren't spamming about their usage of it. Ironically also use cheat apk for farming.
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>>122646224
But it works. It's just that the only responses to logic are from those who oppose it. Silent majority and all that at its finest and all that jazz.
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Why is the server down? Incompetence again?
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>>122646218
Except they are doing nothing wrong and the whole banned meme is fucking maximum retarded
Just playing as a foreigner is against TOS there you go with your "ban risk", you illiterate piece of garbage.
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>>122646378
Why do you ask questions when you already know the answer?
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>>122646402
Holy fuck, someone just wrote a huge paragraph about the pointles of both cheat and anti cheat but than these two autists start again. I almost feel sorry for the anon that went to the effort of writing a logical moderate response.
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>>122646402
If PvP and raids are things that are still in the works, then people using the cheat apk is something that DW will need to address. On the other hand, foreigners playing the game doesn't affect that, or anything else.

Not to mention that shitposting is itself doing something wrong.
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>>122646493
Blame maint, now I have nothing to do
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>cheating in a mobile game
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>cheatfags still thinking they are welcome here
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Tfw had just used an apple before maintenance.
S-surely the maintenance won't be that long?
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>>122646590
>>122646635
I bet you fags don't even refund.

>Not having all the servants for free
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>>122644341
>143 posters
>1086 posts
Do you faggots really have no thing better to do than shitpost in this general all day long?
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>fafnir,demons,amazons and centaurs will be the chimeras of their respective daily
Well at least your guaranteed a drop from the look of it if you run into them

Have fun spending gems completing the stages though
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>>122646707
they're always like 2 hours minimum and like 3 days maximum
:3

also ded general
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>>122646707
rest assured, it won't be longer than 2 days
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>>122646816
Making it 20
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>>122646781
what else am I supposed to do while waiting for AP to recharge?
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>>122646783
Who's going to be the rare enemy in the assassin and lancer dailies?
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>>122646783
You're not guaranteed shit besides the final servant.
So whilst monument farming just got alot easier, ascension hell became alot worse.
Christmas better have hearts or talons unless DW wants people to spam their twitter with "summon new management" again in jap
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>>122646834
anon...

>>122646847
the designated deprecated apwait room :3
playing type mun classiks :3
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>>122646580
PVP will be AI controlled teams of other players which are captured either dynamically or during some daily update. There will never be real player versus player, just pseudo. Thus making this irrelevant.

Raids, if they ever happen, will most likely still not change anything about this.

>>122646590
>>122646635
Moral high ground shitposting scum, everyone

>>122646783
You're not. I got a gold chest and it was a fucking red gem. I feel insulted.
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>>122646847
Play other video games
Watch anime
Have a life
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>>122646834
>>122646816
Kidding I'm retarded
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>>122646764
refunders are OK, at least they play the game
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>>122646878
I've ran into the chimera twice and have gotten a talon both times. It's easier than it was before that's for sure
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>>122646908
PVP can still have leaderboards, which cheaters will screw up.
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>>122646941
Fucking how?
I've run into it 3 times and got skill gems each time.
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>>122646994
They will at most record number of wins and personal streaks and every whale will have them at 100% anyway, so it doesn't really matter much if cheatapk users do, too

>>122647006
>>122646941
RNG, gentlemen
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>>122647006
RNG. I thought it was a guaranteed drop but I guess not. Still the rate probably is increased since I ran the last dailies 30 times and didn't get a single one then vs 7 netting me 2 even if I had to spend my CS and a gem to finish it
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So how are the new exp dailies?
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ITS UP
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>>122647336
Harder than before and give more master exp
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>>122647336
A bit harder, higher chance of getting gold.
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>>122647352
you know what's really up? my patience for your bullshit
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>>122647336
Nearly assured goldex exp + current campaign of 2* "great" chance makes this week one of the best for leveling servants.
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>>122647420
I guess this does technichally count as an event in that case. I'd rather that then a half AP thing
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>>122647420
I've been wanting to save my apples for an event but I can't resist taking advantage of this, especially since I just rolled Drake yesterday.
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>>122647420
>this week one of the best for leveling servants
Just when every single servant I have is maxed.
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>>122647336
The EXP fodder dailies give almost all gold EXP, but the hands have way more health.
It takes longer to beat, but is much more efficient on AP this way.
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>>122647486
Best to use apples for ascension mat grinding
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tetsuo
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>>122647523
Shouldn't you be happy that you managed to get all the ascension materials you needed?
Unless all you Servants only used easy materials like if they were weak Servants or something.
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>>122647523
I'm sorry anon ;_;
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>games back
Time for talons
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>nearly all my servants stuck at 50-60 and if this general is right, they'll be staying there for nearly forever due to dailies having less chimeras/demons/etc
Meanwhile caster liz is 80 and lonely by herself
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Shouldn't the maintenance already over by now?
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>>122644230
>The greatest example of Egyptian devotion to the cat, however, comes from the Battle of Pelusium (525 BCE) in which Cambyses II of Persia defeated the forces of the Egyptian Pharaoh Psametik III to conquer Egypt. Knowing of the Egyptian’s love for cats, Cambyses had his men round up various animals, cats chiefly among them, and drive the animals before the invading forces toward the fortified city of Pelusium on the Nile. The Persian soldiers painted images of cats on their shields, and may have held cats in their arms, as they marched behind the wall of animals. The Egyptians, reluctant to defend themselves for fear of harming the cats (and perhaps incurring the death penalty should they kill one), and demoralized at seeing the image of Bastet on the enemy’s shields, surrendered the city and let Egypt fall to the Persians. The historian Polyaenus (2nd century CE) writes that, after the surrender, Cambyses rode in triumph through the city and hurled cats into the faces of the defeated Egyptians in scorn.

What Servant class would he be?
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>>122647767
Why do you do the things you do?
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Fixed the op for the next thread

>[OKEANOS]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20151105
- Scenario written by higashide and nasu (only drake's lines)
- Medea Lily (4*) is the stage unlock servant
- David (3*) is the stage reward servant

>[S I E G F R I E D gatcha event]
November 18 (Thursday) 19:00 to November 25 (Wed) 13:59 JST
- Rate up in the Event gatcha for the:
- 5*: Caster demiservant siegfried
- 4*: Saber siegfried and Berserker sir siegfriedsalot
- 3*: Lancer proto sieg and Rider shota siegfried
- CE info goes here

- Additionally there is a great/super success rate up going on when feeding exp/CEs

>[Chaldea Gate Renewal]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20151110
November 18 (Wednesday) 16:00 JST
- Mana prisms will be reset every week
- Only need to complete each once to obtain mana prisms
- New 40ap version for all the quests
- New quests (see link)
- No more Master Training, but you can farm free quests for that:
(Okeanos) 18 AP for 12.5k, 17 AP for 9.8k/8.1k


>News and Reminders
- Latest changes (11/11)
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20151111
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20151104d
- Regular Maintenance: Every Wed from 14:00 to 16:00 JST

- Comptiq's interview with Higashide and Sakurai (about London)
http://pastebin.com/ipaXkpd2
http://imgur.com/a/jCif2

>Dropmaps [Now with Okeanos]
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ - Under renovation!
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>Data Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WI4dKGcwWjn5XpTgfLsK8c0cipRzrWbVpiLGeVr55Ks/htmlview?sle=true
http://pastebin.com/jtxyf37T(toaster version)

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/
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>>122647865
Yuetsu
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>>122647868
I can't tell if you fucks like siegfried or hate his guts
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>>122647830
>expecting competence from DW, masters of connecting people
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>>122647868
Siegfried is love
Siegfried is life
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>>122647945
Well he apparently ruined apoc. He also kucked all the jannufags. Plus he's shitty in game. Overall I can see why he has a decent hate base.
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アルテラさんと破壊的に繁殖したいです!
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>>122647837
>The historian Polyaenus (2nd century CE) writes that, after the surrender, Cambyses rode in triumph through the city and hurled cats into the faces of the defeated Egyptians in scorn.
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>Siegfried
>Rival to Karna
>Worse then every single Saber except fucking Gilles
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>>122647868
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>>122648010
No that's sieg. Most people like siegfried
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>>122648092
Gilles is cheaper, cheaper to ascend, and has an interlude which gives 1 quartz
Thus he is actually better than Siegfried
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>>122648010
Hes the worst 4* besides stheno
Hopefully lancer daily will be liz and seiba daily will be arturia so that at least sieg is sorta useful
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>>122648218
Siggys interlude gives quartz too anon.
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>>122648229
Siegfrieds usefulness will increase immeasurably once Jeanne alter and pvp comes out. For now he's just as he is
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>>122648289
Honestly, I get the feeling that he and Jeanne Alter would warp the PvP metagame all by themselves.
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ITS
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>>122647837
>>122648081
kek
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>>122648370
UP
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>>122648289
>once Jeanne alter and pvp comes out
So never?
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So

How come just fixing one enemy drop took this long? They're already one hour late.
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>>122648498
>DW
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You guys are really overestimating Siegfrieds usefulness against dragons.
He's got ONE skill that raises just his damage and defense, and his np only does more on overcharge.
He's only good against Lancers.
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How long do bought tickets last in your inventory?
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>>122648657
He's honestly more threatening as an enemy because he can stack his buffs and most people have Arturia.
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>>122648664
Only until New Years
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>>122648664
They expire on 1st jan
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>>122648821
>>122648862
Wait, really? I can't buy them up and save them until London?
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>>122649014
Added a timer to them today.
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So literally dead game?
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Well, this update added nothing but harder dailies to grind and more tickets in the shop.
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What's Mashu's personality like in the game? She seems like a huge bully magnet in fanart.
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>>122649559
It added maintenance
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Why couldn't they just make 5-6 rounds with the same levels we already had for the EXP dailies? Honestly, pretty much the only difference now is that they take longer.
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Reminder that DW is attempting to make their own original game after fate.
Make sure to find it and downvote it to 1*
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Shit, the game is under maint? Well, it's time to fap I guess.
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im still getting the maintenance screen what the fuck is it still going on
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>>122650726
DING DONG
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>>122650742
Let's not.
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>>122650742
>let's laugh at arguments on leddit
>leddit
Dead thread, also, let's not fucking do that.
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>>122650412
>Why couldn't they just make 5-6 rounds with the same levels we already had for the EXP dailies?
Because that means it will benefit the players, DW won't have that.
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>>122650742
>Actually go there
>Muh hurt feelz
>Muh shit translation
>Muh even if it's true you can't say that they do it for no compensasion
This was a mistake and it's giving me stomach burns
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I just wanna buy those 10 tickets.
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>>122650742
Is that FGO story translations actually that bad?
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Is the maintenance only for the gold gem drop? It can't possibly take so long to fix something like that...
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Finally, its over
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IT'S UP
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>>122651124
>>122651159
Post proof
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>>122649107
Dick move DW. Dick move
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>>122651124
>>122651159
Fuck off
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>>122648664
Read the fucking FAQ
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>>122651215
They only added a timer to buy them, that has nothing to do with how long they last in the inventory.
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>>122649107
>adding a timer to tickets
Are you niggers sure that isn't the fucking timer to buy them instead?
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How is it taking this long to fix a bug this simple
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>>122651512
nothing is simple for delite werks

ganbatte intern-kun~~
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>>122651512
They need to rewrite all the events mob code, so two months I guess.
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>cheating in a mobile game
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>>122651760
>posting on 4chan
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>>122651926
>not honoring moot's memory
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>>122648218
Jokes on you, Siegfried is the easiest 4* to ascend and he has 2 interludes to give 2 quartz
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>>122651983
>not having already forgotten who moot was
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What do you think of the new gacha event?
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>>122652028
>forgetting somebody who gave you fun for many years
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>>122652126
Shit.
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First for best girl.
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Mant ending in an hour. 4 apologems and 4 appleologies.
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>>122652241

>New Medusa doujin on sadpanda

I know what i'm doing until the maintenance ends.
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>>122652241
You mean second best right?
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>>122652272
>they spent this long on an emergency maint and we only get 4 appologems
Fuck apples. Fuck DW and their jewing
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It's Up Guys!!!
Thanks for the Free gems, DMM!!
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>>122652485
4 quartz is more than 1 quartz per hour, which is what they usually give. Nothing wrong with it.
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>>122652462
>(c76)
>new
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>>122652576
>08-06
Nice try.
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>>122652598

I checked the artist tag and it wasn't there, should have read the title instead, at least the translation is new.
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>>122652576
>Ver. 1.0.1
Nice try
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>>122652576
Nice try
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London when?
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>>122652647
>>122652757
>>122652871
>all the people who weren't around during the great maintenance
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Every thread until Astolfo
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>>122652576
>DMM
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>>122652979
>this guy who can't even make his bait somewhat believable
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>get 5 hours of sleep
>wake up to this
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L O N D O N
O
N
D
O
N

When?
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>>122653258
Next year.
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26 min before the extended maint.
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I was honestly looking foward to the new dailies, I honestly thought shit like plumes/talons would have good droprates
I could cry right now /fgog/, I could cry ;_;
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>>122653548
The drops are better.
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It's up again!
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>>122653548
>expecting anything good from this piece of shit
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>>122653693
Fuck off faggot.
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it's up now for sure
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>>122653693
thanks
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Holy shit they added Arjuna in gatcha!
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17:30~21:00
did they accidentally spill their canned coffee and lose something
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>>122654001
Yes, a drop
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Up!
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>>122654001
>please look forward to a compensation of 2 apoloapples
I can already see it
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>>122654258
See>>122652272
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>>122654030
I want Jeanne Alter so fucking bad
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It's up
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6 minutes until more extended maintenance
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Oh my god, it's Up!!
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>>122654476
Aww yes, Need moe crystal for them program
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Its up! for real!
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It's Up
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It'q qup
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Thank fuck it's up.
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>>122644979
Added thanks.
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SHOJIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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>>122655046
Nothing will get me to spend crystal during this rotation
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I'm fucking loving these dailies
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>>122655046
Since they buffed the crits I can see why they put Lancelot and Waver up, but the others are a mystery.
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>>122655141
Shit, didn't mean to spoiler.
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>>122655149
You can't question Da Vinci-chan's taste in ikemen.
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>>122655046
>Proto Cu
>Siegfried
>Alexander
>Waver
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>>122655141
>2 monuments
HOW
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>>122655323
Gold emblem Shadow Servants can drop monuments.
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>Archer and Caster exp daily
>Berserker hand shows up
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>>122655395
What's it like to be retarded?
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>>122655323
UNRIVALED and shadow Asterios
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>>122655395
You're dumb.`
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>>122655395
>I'm retarded and illiterate
fuck off
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>>122655395
Try reading the new dailies explanation next time.
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>>122655046
I have all of them minus Siegfry
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>>122655395
Everyday is Berserker day for exp.
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Ascending Jeanne has become a complete joke now
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the main account F rank luck curse continues
3 runs of 40 AP, 3 pieces and nothing else of value
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>>122655141
I would love it more if it actually drops talon for me, 5 runs and the only things of note are one twin crystal and 5 monuments.
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Lancelot just hit crits on every attack and killed my entire team in 3 turns.
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Where are you guys getting talons?
5 runs of 40AP and only monuments.
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>Berserker Chimera buffs it's crit damage and wrecks my team by casually critting three times in a row
brilliantly coded DW
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>>122655951
>Being bad
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>>122655951
Always crits attacks are such a bullshit.
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>>122655890
>people getting reckt by UNRIVALED
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>>122655890
UNRIVALED
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>>122655990
I don't think they're always-crit attacks, I think crit attacks from mobs have unique animations.
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>>122655987
>I'm bad because a 300k HP chimera takes my max ascended team out with bullshit damage crits
brilliant shitpost senpai
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>>122655951
That's why you need to one shot them with Kintoki.
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>>122656063
Well yeah, that's why they always crits. If they don't use them they won't crit.
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>>122656063
Chimera have an always crit attack
themoreyouknow.jpg
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>>122655890
>My herc tanks it thanks to skills and then destroys lancer.

It begins
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>>122656094
Yes
You bring David for invincibility or try to single target NP the chimera to death with Robin Hood
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Hows the drop rate on monuments in 40 AP? I need Rider ones, so I'm waiting til they change over in a few hours before using AP.
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I want to marry this snake!
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>>122655894
Its a "chance" to find one on the second wave
Aka
>>122644562
>>122645036
And etc.
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>>122656117
Is Kintoki really that good or is he just a meme?
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>>122656206
I got one from the 10ap
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>>122656214
It's still better rates than the old 20 AP.
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>>122656206
Almost 100% chance to get monument each time.
I've done it 12 times and got a total of 16 monuments, 9 of which was from the final boss who has a very rare chance to drop pieces instead of monuments
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>>122656213
Too late, she's already married to me.
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>>122656213
>>122656318
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>>122656306
>Almost 100% chance to get monument each time
yeah, no. I did it 3 times and 0 monuments
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>>122656306
Wow thats awesome actually.
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>>122656296
M8, I'm 7 runs and still no chimera.
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JESUS CHRIST FUCK YOU DW
HOW MANY ENEMIES ARE IN THESE FUCKING ROTATIONS
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>>122656340
But its true.
If you don't believe me check earlier in this thread and in last thread.
Even spreadsheet-chan confirms it
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>Roll my last ticket just to get Kaleido
>CE
>5*
>Prismacosmos

RRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Desire sensor is real, fuck this.
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>>122656401
Is there a single servant Prisma Cosmos is actually good on?
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>>122656401
>Roll my tickets to get shit
>Got shit
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>>122656432
Any Lancer.
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>>122656360
For berserker ascension?
Pirates, golems, chimeras, shadow servants and servants.
Chimera is extremely rare on second wave but seems to always drop a chest (however chest is almost always a berserker skillstone)
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>>122656338
Can i marry that snek?
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>>122656432
Marie and Tamamo.
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>2 runs
>Not even one Chimera
I'm just gonna keep farming the Rome stage, it's far more cost efficient for Talons. These new dailies suck.
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>>122656496
Look at the spreadsheet
There is like 3 fucking versions of rock golems and pirates in the second wave along with different shadow servants
I am making a daily stage guide and there are 8 fucking different enemies in wave 2 of 30 AP and 40 AP
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>>122656461
I just wanted to join the 5* servant + Kaleido club
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>>122656432
I actually tried it out in my Arts team and it isn't terrible. It lets me not worry so much about using the Servant I put it on, and focus more on Arts chaining with the other Servants. I couldn't do that with a CE like the Maids or Halloween Ilya.

Of course, the MO of that team is to blow all the NPs in the same round.
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>Blackbeard gets apparently betrayed by Hector
>well ok, I guess he'll join us n--
>he fades into light
Fuck this shit.
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>>122656548
The chimera has always dropped a chest for me even if it was fucking skillstones each time.
Added benefit is that 40ap gets you berserker monuments and octuplent crystals as well.
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>3 runs
>0 monuments
FUcK ThIS sHIt
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>>122656548
>only 2 runs
>he thinks rome is efficient
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>>122656625
Who do you run on your arts team?
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>>122656670
Did 2 runs and I didn't get even one octuplent or a monument. I'm done with the Berserker dailies, never doing them again.
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>>122656726
>>2 Runs
>>3 Monuments

GREAT UPDATE
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You are alive, and that's what matters.

Please, marry me!
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10 runs.
10 fucking runs.
And still no Chimera.
Fuck this shit.
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>>122656805
Join the club.
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4 apples used, 15 runs done of berserker 40 ap.
13 monuments, 3 pieces, some void refuse, ZERO (0) talons, a gazzilion skillstones and I think 1-2 octuplent crystals (wasn't counting since don't need them).
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>>122656739
Saber Alter (Halloween Iri), Martha (Prisma), and a support. Prisma would probably work better on a Servant with only two Arts cards, but Halloween Iri is so damn good for Alter that I don't want to change it.
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Who zero talons from new daily here?
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>>122656804
>Marrying a weakling
No thanks.
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I
C
K
E
T
S
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>4 runs
>1 monument
>1 Talon
Should I be happy?
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In theory you can get 4 monuments from one 30 AP if you get 2 shadow servants in wave 2 and both drop one and then you get 2 drops in wave 3

Chance of that is really low though
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>>122657131
>talon
Yes you should
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At least these dailies are really fucking good for monuments.
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>>122657224
>trying to look on the bright side
get out.
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>>122657224
>monuments being a problem when they give it to you in the boatload in every event
I've literally never had to farm for monuments nut fucking ascension materials like hearts however...
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I think I am nearing completion for 40 AP and 30 AP berserker mats stages

I cannot be arsed to record EXP stages as it's all the same enemy with just slightly different HP
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>>122657131
>only 1 monument
No
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>>122656117

It's really that good. His tripple buster is guaranteed to kill everything under 65k. If you play the card right you should be able to NP(Buster) + Buster + Buster that guaranteed to kill 2 enemies in a single turn.
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>>122657327
>not having six hearts
But honestly? I'm the exact opposite.
I seem to get really fucking lucky with ascension material, so I thought that I wouldn't need to buy monuments. I was wrong.
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>>122657224
Most people are gated by the stuffs like talons, hearts, and shit though.

>>122657450
>only six
I miss the time when six hearts feels like a lot.
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>chimera hits for 11k
>Drop a claw in return
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>>122657450
>six hearts
Jester pls go and stay go.
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>>122657416

Meant to quote >>122656249
>>
>15 runs
>finally a chimera
>skill stone
>>
>Gears never
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>>122657610
You're fucking lucky then. Red skill gem for me and my team was nearly wiped.
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>40 AP Berserker daily
Jesus Christ I nearly died.
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>>122657749
Wait for the Assassins day.
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>>122657835
Assassin would be Homo babies, wouldn't it?
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Are you all really so underlevelled that this is hard?
I'm running a level 70 team with no issues.
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>mfw now hearts practically become even harder to farm
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>>122657894
Not everyone has 3 gold berserkers.
>>
With how much people are wanting gear who even uses them?
Nero, Emiya and... that's literally all I can think of
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>>122657397
I got an other Talon on my next run, should I be happy now?
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>>122657894
if you don't get a fucking 200k hp chimera on the second way it's easy

unless you invested on Robin Hood
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>>122657929
Waver.
>>
>>122657929
Waver, Marie, Andersen.
>>
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the text under the Servant bit says the chances to get Great and Super Success are doubled for 6 days, right?
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>>122657929
Hassan, REGEND
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>>122657918
Yeah, look at all my gold berserkers.
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>>122658039
Yes.
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>>122657504
Meanwhile, I haven't even had the chance to use mine.
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>20th run
Talons never
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>>122657918
Berserkers are actually easier to beat with anyone that isn't a beserker
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>>122658209
0,01%*1 = 0.02%
Based DW.
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>>122657918
Is anyone even running 3 berserkers in either 40AP?
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>>122657918
Why would you use 3 of the class that does the least damage against Berserkers?
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>>122658271
I'm sorry anon.
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>>122658309
It's boosted from 100% to 200% when you're hitting a level cap, though.
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>>122657918
I actually removed lancelot from my team for caster liz because he was doing no damage against berserkers, i'm running a lvl 70 waver with no attack buff and a lvl 80 saber alter of a friend and I still haven't see neither of them die.
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>>122658432
>Talons
Fucking lies
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>>122658432
Assuming appearance rate is the same, 20AP is better for talons?
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>>122658432
>listing skillstones
Is there seriously anyone who cares about where they drop?
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>>122658348
Kintoki's BBC does a fuckton of damage
>>
Was the friend spreadsheet reset again?
>>
>>122658589
A week after Okeanos' release.
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>>122658589
Shortly after the release of Okeanos, yes.
I did plenty of announcements but didn't want to start outright spamming. It was also in the OP for a week or so
>>
Am I the only one who sees "BBC" as "big black cock"?
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>>122658692
I like calling it BBQ
>>
>Rider 40ap soon
Time for a game /fgog/, lancelot was berserkers, who do you think the rider monument holder will be?
My bets are on drake because the rest do like zero damage
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>>122658508
15 AP Roma is better for talons.
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>>122658786
40ap has assured chest drop aka enjoy your skillstone
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>>122658786
Not everyone agrees:
>>122645128
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>>122658759
Marie, get ready for her to shield every turn.
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>>122658759
Heal Shield spamming Marie
Calling it
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>>122658850
Dont believe his lies.
>>
>>122658851
>>122658863
FUCKING MARIE

I uused to get her 4 times out of every 5 cavalry runs.
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>>122658851
>>122658863
Pls no
luckily np and stars still charge when she shields
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>>122658684
Now the crap is complaining about a problem while saving permissions. God damn.
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>>122658863
>Pirate sluts with 300k HP and a 3 turn timer for NP
I CAN FEEL IT MR. KRABS
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>>122658271
>talons are now even harder to grind due to Chimera being RNG in showing up at 40 AP
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>>122658851
>>122658863
>>122658913
>>122658963

V I V E L A F R A N C E
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>>122658432
10AP can drop monument
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>>122658524
Yes. Once you max our your servants level it's all about skill-ups.
>>
>>122658994
Can't say I've heard this issue before. Google spreadsheets does have some bugs, but nobody has mentioned issues with permissions so far.

If anybody has any suggestions for alternatives for a friendlist library I'm willing to take a look
>>
>>122659029
Welcome goy to "better dailies", we'll even help you out with more monuments on top of the few dozen you already hoarded from previous events
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>>122659014
3 turn timers should be fucking changed.

>>122659090
Can confirm.
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>40 AP lancer: It's Scatnach
>40 AP rider: It's Astolfo
>40 AP assassin: It's Jack.
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So do you think Gears, Homo Babies, and Pages will drop from the new dailies?
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>>122659127
Never mind, got it fixed by actually logging in.
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>>122659181
>Astolfo
>Not Iskandar or Ozzy
disgusting
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Tfw the update was a huge buff to jannu.
Based jeanne, her ascension is now the second easiest, with only being behind caster liz of free ascension.
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>>122659205
Nope.
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>>122659114
Sure, but they always drop from the enemies of the corresponding class.
There's no need to list them separately, you just look at the class list in the game itself.
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>>122659205
If the Rider Daily tomorrow have Centaurs, there's a chance that DW actually implement new enemies for those to the Chaldea Gate. If no Centaurs then this is just literal rehash with a new name.
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>>122659238
Hasn't her ascension always been the easiest already?
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>>122659338
It's useful for story maps, less in dailies because everyone already expect skill-ups to drop there.
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>>122659426
You'd still have somewhat an ascension hell with her due to your other units needing her monuments too.
Now with how easy monuments are, her ascension is a joke
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Thanks 40 ap
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>>122659491
Maybe. I still would never farm skillstones in story maps since the rates for red and yellow ones are garbage.
Better just waiting for dailies.
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>>122659575
>cropping off the bottom of your picture because you had to use command seals
shameful desu
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I want a new gold servant so desperately I might just memeroll all of my last 20 quartz on this shitty gatcha.
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>>122644702

FIX ANNE DAMN YOU
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>>122659718
>Not buying the 10 new tickets and using them
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>>122658348

Kintoki doesn't care. He will murder everyone.
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>tfw you finally get a decent roll
>tfw when it's on an alt


Only gold cards I've drawn on my main are Stheno, Seig, and Waver.
At least Waver is good now.
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>>122660029
Oh shit
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>tfw you have no desire to roll due to owning all the servants in the rate up gacha.
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>>122660312
>tfw you want to roll to get Lancelot, but already have the rest of the servant.
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>>122660312
>tfw I want to roll but I already have Waver and rolling for Lancelot is risky because Sieg is the spookmaster
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>>122660124
>>122658570
>>122657416
>tfw no Kintoki
I can't believe I missed my chance to get the buster monster
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>>122660416
>tfw 5/5 NP Lancelot, 3/5 Waver and 1/5 Seig
God bless.
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>>122660312
>tfw you have no desire to roll due to owning all the servants in the rate up gacha except that shitty excuse of a saber called Sieg.
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So according to the patch notes, Drake had a graphical error.

What exactly was the error?
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>>122660312
>tfw You have everyone except Sieg in both of your accounts
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>>122660632
Missing semen. It doesn't show up
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>>122660632
tits too small
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>>122658570
>>122660124
>Use lvl 90 Kintoki from friendlist
>get to Lancelot, Kintoki still almost at full hp
>get not a single Buster on first turn
>Lancelot attacks Kintoki
>Crit: ~12000 HP
>Kintoki dies
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>>122660817
>get not a single Buster on first turn
>Lancelot attacks Kintoki
That's what you did wrong. You should have used dodge on Kintoki if you didn't get a Buster on your first turn.
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>>122658570
Kintoki's BigBlackCock?
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was the friend gatcha updated too?
got 70 roll ready to try my luck on hector
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>>122644442
>>122656025
>>122656041
Shit tier.
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>>122661069
LANCESHITERS BTFO
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Get rekt Lancelot
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>>122661209
>not having Arturia lvl5NP
Why live?
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>>122661069
>Lancelot hardly fights 15 portals
>Heracles must fight over 50 while protecting Illya
Bahsahkah hontoni ichiban tsuyoi na...
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>>122661209
whew lad, my medusa does the same damage with her np
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>>122661293
>whaling
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>>122661015
Didn't have dodge anymore. If I hadn't used it first turn against chimera, Kintoki wouldn't even have seen Lancelot.
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I sure love these rate ups
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>>122661069
>dat quality

well, time to download the bds
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So whos currently stuck in ascension hell?
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>>122661434
Shiny does not equal quality.
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>>122661405
>not having kintoki on your backline
Or
>having a front line so shit it dies wave one
Pick one
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>>122661508
Me, just with more gears and less pages
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Is it even worth farming the daily for chaos claws?
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>>122659673
Command seals are not shown after the end of the battle, retard.
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>>122661602
What else are you gonna use that AP for
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>>122661508
I'm short one gear for emiya. Didn't know Waver needed them too.
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>>122661641
No but full HP and NP bars are, so fuck off and git gud scrub
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>>122661509
>implying

learn to read first, i never said why the quality is good.
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>>122661656
Farming prisms from 40 ap exp dailies
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>>122661707
If you just want prisms, why not do 30 AP?
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>>122661656
Farming exp desu senpai
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>>122660817

>>122660817


Use Master spell. It will help a lot if you have any servant with a dodge skill too. Try to find friend Kintoki with Kaleido or Halloween Iri, Don't use his NP until you fight a really strong enemy.

Make note though his NP can deal 50k-120k depending on the enemy, your current buff and Buster chain, so play your card right and you will feel like you're using cheat apk.

Did I mention I killed Flauros in a Single turn?
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>>122660817
UNRIVALED
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Is there even a chance at a chimera showing up during the third wave in 40ap?
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>>122661293
>not having max Ascension Arthuria
Why live?
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>>122661754
30ap has 3-6 2* exp and last I checked only 3* and above give prisms
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>>122661835
>30ap has 3-6 2* exp
That is disgusting.
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>>122661835
>newbies who can't do 40ap now have to go through hell with 2* exp
Ahahahahah, this game is so unfriednly to newbies I'd be suprised if more than 100 come per week.
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>>122661787
Eh it could be reached eventually unlike 5 Arturias
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>barely any Nips rolling the gacha
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>>122661293
>>122661787
>not having the superior king

Why live?
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>>122661069
>>122661069
>>122661323
>Perhaps Tokiomi evacuated Archer when he realized the disadvantage.
>Gilgamesh displayed his Noble Phantasms with great fanfare and placed himself at a disadvantage
>However, they had not anticipated Servant Berserker’s immense powers or his exceptional ability of harnessing an opponent’s Noble Phantasm. He was a natural opponent for Tokiomi’s Gilgamesh.
>In order for the battle to swing in Tokiomi’s favor…The other Servants must first defeat Berserker.
>Berserker as his Servant also had the mysterious ability of being able to seize others' Noble Phantasms, considerably the arch-nemesis of Archer.
>Berserker, who was a formidable enemy due to his natural differences with Archer, had also become Kirei’s puppet along with his Master. There was nothing else that could threaten Kotomine Kirei.
>Capitalize on Team Berserker. Team Berserker was a powerful enemy against all other teams, but Lancer had an advantage due to compatibility. It would be optimal to let Berserker destroy the other teams and reach the finale. He could then be defeated at that point.
>Though Berserker was the greatest threat to all the other Servants, he had poor compatibility against Lancer. Thus, if at all possible it would be in Team Lancer’s best interest to allow them to stick around to the very end and eliminate all the other teams, before swooping in at the last second to take them out.

Meanwhile Herkek.
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So what do these new quests imply for my talon farm
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>>122662058
It got a little easier.
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>>122662018
They really went out of their way to make it as undesirable as possible
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>>122662051
Don't forget what Illya route has to say about the subject too.
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>>122662058
Enjoy rome or sucking rngesus's cock (chance for 1 chimera to appear in the second wave of 40 ap, chance of the guaranteed chest it drops to be either talon or the more likely skillstone)
Average of 5-10 waves for 1 chimera to show but your luck may be better or worse
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>>122662058
Nothing, just farm 15 AP Roma.
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>>122662051
>quoting fanfiction
topkek to be honest family
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>>122662037

I missed that CE, hopefully it will be added in the pool on future updates ;_;
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>>122662051
>Hercules broke Enkidu and made Gil shit his pants
>Lancelot jobbed against Arturia while she was losing her shit because muh kingdom

Unrivaled shit
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>>122662058
They're better than before but you are not getting even 3 from this shit so all these new dailies did is to fuck over newbies absolutely since the 30ap exp quest has mostly 2* exp hands and the 40ap ones have 400k hp
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>>122661787
I'm missing 1 phoenix plume. I don't want to talk about it...
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>>122662226
>400k
Nice extra zero
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>>122662192
>fanfiction
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>jump into the 40 Ap
>it's all fine up to the fatal battle

>288k Lancelot plus fluffy

are you serious DW?

i mean it's ok for seasoned players with good enough servants but think of the occasional poor fool
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>>122661835
Yeah, I just did one 30 AP for the prisms and had three bronze hands on wave 1, two bronze and one silver on wave 2, and two silver and one gold on wave 3.

This is fucking stupid.
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>>122662192
Wait, the novel is fanfic now?
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>>122662058
Its easier if you have good luck, its much worse if you have bad luck.
Also enjoy getting rekt by lancelot with 300k health and always attacks +ohko comboes saberfaces after beating the 200k chimera
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>>122662265
Everything non-Nasu is fanfiction tier.

Apocrypha, Puriya, Fragments, etc.
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>>122662343
The recommended level is 60. git gud.
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>>122662051
Tokiomi is a retard that thought Iskander posed a threat against the strongest heroic spirit just because >but it's E-EX NP
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I lost count at how many tries I did but I know it was 7 refills. God DW can't do anything right without fucking up can they?
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>>122662343
Do you not look at the level requirements at all?
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>>122662445

there's bound to be someone who gets stomped because he didn't see

I did that shit back with Herc, so I'm not that fool anymore though
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>>122662404
I used Arturia, Alter, and Kintoki and Lancelot killed Kintoki first. Him attacking saberfaces is a myth.
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>>122662443
That's not how fanfiction works you retard. Are you gonna call Fate/Zero a fanfiction as well since it was written by Urobutcher?
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>>122662343
Its even worse if you meet the 200k chimera who has the always crit attack beforehand.
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>>122662206
>and made Gil shit his pants
Animeonlyfag, that shit never happened in canon. Herkek didn't even get Gil pissed or managed to even touch him. Lancelot destroyed Gil's ego, his aircraft and managed to damage him.

Also
>Herkek died 6 times against shitter EMIYA
>Couldn't handle nerfed Shirou Saber
>Lancelot almost kills a Kiritsugu Saber in a few seconds
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>>122662521
You can do it senpai, she's waiting.
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>>122662568
>Hercules killed EMIYA
>Kekalot killed no one
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>>122662598
I'm just going to do the Rome quest 24/7. I'm not wasting any more apples/level ups on this shit
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>>122662538
Of fucking course you filthy secondary.
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>only have claws to ascend either Attila or Liz

What do
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>>122662206
>Lancelot jobbed against Arturia while she was losing her shit because muh kingdom
>"I didn't read Fate/Zero"

Lancelot jobbed due to Kariya.
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>>122662481
Tokiomi never said it was a threat, he simply thought Iskander was much stronger than they expected, and they had to be careful about it because of EX NP. And he was right, the only reason IH jobbed is because EA was pretty much the perfect counter for it.

Not only that, but if Gilgamesh had gone against IH without knowing what to expect, he would have most likely jobbed. Tokiomi was not a retard, his strategy was perfect. You can't send your Servant around without gathering information, that's just stupid even if your Servant is Gilgamesh.
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>>122662709
>using the word secondary wrong

3/10 bait at least you tried. Herc a shit. Literally jobbed in Okeanos as well.
>>
Spreadsheet should have a 90% complete list for the berserker ascension dailies
The last 10% is 10 AP runs for variation probing and that can go fuck itself
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>>122662716
Who makes your dick harder?
Pick that one.
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>>122662631
He killed his master :^)
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>>122662343
>full level 60 arts team of emiya+marta+casterliz
>have to blow nps on wave 2 because of fucking chimera with 200k health
>vs lancelot
>turn 1 he rapes caster liz who luckily had battle cont. and nearly kill emiya
>turn 2 I use emiya dodge but he kills casterliz and most of martas health
>turn 3 he kills mashu who was using mashu ce
>turn 4 he rapes emiya and marta
>turn 5 he nps before raping support lvl 90 arturia

Someone explain how this is meant for level 60s pls.
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>>122662808
Thank you Spreadsheet-chan, I love you.
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>>122661069
>Lancelot "UNRIVALED"
>Barely hangs on against 16 GoB portals

>Heracles
>50 portals while protecting Illya

>Ginger Japanese Teen
>50+ portals is not enough so let's go higher
>Gets dome style 360 degrees GoB Spam with 100++ portals

Berserker confirmed shit tier class. Once again Shirou being based as fuck.
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>>122662808
Thanks spread sheet anon

On another note. Do you guys place your berserkers in the front line or backline?
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>>122662631
> killed
More like EMIYA kills himself using Hercules.
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>Lancelotfags shitting the thread again
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>>122662914

siht, i dodged a bullet with the chimera then, lancelot was a pain for my first row but the second cleared him no problem after he was weakened (based team dodge from david)
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>>122662808
>Dedication Rank: EX++
>Can't even do 10 AP runs
More like E-
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>>122663037
To be fair Hercfag here started this shit here. >>122661069
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>>122662528
Hard luck for being blind
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>>122662732
>Tokiomi was not a retard
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA.

We're talking about the same guy that thought his FOUR y/o daughter would beat Zoken the 500 year old immortal vampire thing.
Tokiomi wasn't a retard, he was way beyond that.
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>>122663139
> thought his FOUR y/o daughter would beat Zoken

What?
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>>122662981
>Barely hangs on against 16 GoB portals
>Barely
Also, guess what future Shirou has to say.
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>>122663002

Front line with Jeanne and Marie to heal and dodge buff GOLD
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>>122663027
GARcher is so based that when he wants to die he prefers to get killed by fucking Heracles, not before making Heracles have a swordboner and regret not fighting EMIYA while being sane because he's just THAT good.

Why is EMIYA the best Fate character?
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>>122663002
I don't use berserkers.
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>>122663195
He was just talking about his swordsmanship.
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>>122663284
Even EMIYA knows who is the UNRIVALED best though. >>122663195
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>>122663191
Tokiomi thought Sakura would beat Zoken if he tried to do anything that wasn't according to the plan
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>>122663074
I did seventeen 10 AP runs
You need around 40 runs to make sure you didn't miss any variation
I finished 40 runs of 40AP, 30AP and 20AP

You are most welcome to supply the remaining 23 runs of a difficulty nobody gives a shit about
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>>122663037
Some faggot started it again, baiting the Lancelotfags posting some animeonly crap.
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>>122662018
Who would honestly roll this gacha?
There's no new stuff, and they went and made it 90% shit rate-up.
Really, you can buff Waver as much as you want, but at the end of the day, he's not waifu so nobody cares.
>>
>>122663409
-> >>122663380
Lanceshit gets 16 GoB, meanwhile Archer can withstand dat 360 degree GoB.
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>>122662732
I said he thought it posed a threat since he thinks that Iskander is a dangerous enemy, he literally thinks that because his NP is EX Iskander is on the same level as Gil and he have doubt that if Gil can do anything against it which is retarded if he actually knew Gil's powerlevel.
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>>122663191
Anon is being misleading. Tokiomi had figured that, if Sakura didn't like Zouken's treatment of her, it would be up to her to do something about it. It's not that he thought his pre-tween daughter was 100% guaranteed to defeat Zouken if they came to blows, he just figured it was up to her to do it if she wanted it done, because he'd already resolved to cut ties with her.
>>
>make everything below 40ap worthless
>make it so only high end players can do the 40ap quests
>No huge difference between the previous 30ap quests and the current 40ap quests
BRAVO
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>>122663002
I have a herc as my last servant and he has saved me from wipes more than once just due to being able to survive two rounds on his own with guaranteed BBCs.
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>>122663728
Really parent of the year ever year
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>>122663751
Ah that's a good point actually. Maybe I should make vlad my last
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>>122663728
Father of the year.
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>>122662529
At the very least its true during the main quests.
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>>122663750
Gid gud, grunt
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>>122663002
I have max ascension Herc in my frontline and my forever stuck in 2nd ascension Lancelot in my back.
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>>122663710
To be fair, if Iskander pulled some shit like Avalon or Vasavi Shakti then he'd have been pretty justified.
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Rider daily gives dragon scales
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Do I need to update my cheat apk?
>>
Holy fuck 40ap rider ascension is hard as fuck
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>>122663728
To elaborate on what you said, I don't think he had any ideas about Sakura defeating Zouken anytime soon. If it was gonna happen it would most likely come many years down the line. Until then, she'd just have to suck it up and get through life in the Matou household best she could.
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>>122664053
>Marie
No fucking surprise there.
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>>122664057
No, you only need to do it for version updates. Just open the game and it'll download the new files.
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>>122663940
I would agree if the type is still unkown but the retarded thing is that he have doubt if he can defeat it against it even if he have prior knowledge of it.
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So I did one 30AP xp quest and it's a mix of the old 30AP and new 40AP with 5k hp bronze hands in the first wave and 50k hp gold hands in the last. I guess they couldn't be arsed to make new enemies for that tier.
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>>122664053
Time to bust out Carmilla
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Sasuga AUO
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Based DW
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>>122664053

>>122658851
>>122658863
Why'd you niggers have to be right?
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>>122664053
Calling REGEND
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>>122664353
>Not calling siegfried
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>>122664306
Because it wouldn't be DW without suffering.
>>
>Tenshin Kasyou Zanmai
>Gohyaku Rakan Fudarakutokai
>Chaos Labyrinth
I think EX lost it meaning a long time ago,
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>>122664391
who?
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>>122664254
>bronze
Yeah not really. It's pretty much 20ap with much larger hp enemies and a bit of gold splashed in
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>>122664306
These work on all invulns, right?
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>>122664451
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>>122663710
>he literally thinks that because his NP is EX Iskander is on the same level as Gil
On paper, he was. Both have EX rank NPs, it came down to compatibility.

>he have doubt that if Gil can do anything against it
Because the enemy had an EX rank NP, equal in rank to even EA. If it came down to a clash of power, it would most likely end in an equal clash. However, EA was the counter to IH type of NPs, kind of like how Avalon just completely countered EA, or how UBW countered GoB.

Also, the novel even says what I mentioned earlier.
>If he had no knowledge against Rider as he fought him, Tōsaka probably couldn’t do a thing against that super Noble Phantasm.

>which is retarded if he actually knew Gil's powerlevel.
He did know it, he even knew about EA, he mentioned EA during the Chtulu fight.
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>>122664518
no, only on dodge
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Can she do it?
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>>122664573
bollocks
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>>122664583
Get ready to get Rider crit out the ass just because.
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>>122664451
That Seigi no Mikata voiced by Suwabe Junichi
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>>122664553
>The only thing that exceed their expectations, was the rank of the Noble Phantasm – even if he knew about it ahead of time, could he find a way to defeat it?

Yeah shows how much he knows about Ea.
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>>122664583
M A S H U
A
S
H
U
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>>122664545
>>122664661
How to post blank replies?
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>>122664583
If Marie doesn't shield spam, yes. If she does, no.
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>>122664661
>VA for EMIYA voices Siegfried
>VA for Shirou voices Sieg
Hmm.
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>>122664583
Believe in your kouhai /fgog/
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>>122664860
Good, I'm glad she's dead.
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>>122664665
>"With a regeneration ability of this level, we can only destroy it entirely with one blow. The only one who can do this is you, the King of Heroes, and the Sword of Rupture – "
Are you saying that your headcanon > the novel? Tokiomi was only starting to analize things at that point, later he even points out how Waver was a shit and that things were still on his favor.
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>>122664583
Depends if Marie is a piece of shit who will spam shieldheal every turn.
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People were whining about the game being too easy

Now we have somewhat challenging dailies

Now they whine it's too hard

Git gud, fucking scrubs
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>>122664665
>Indeed, it is impossible. With Gilgamesh's pride, he would only draw his his trump card, his cherished blade, when facing an opponent whom he recognizes as 'fitting.'
He probably thought EA wasn't an option considering Gil's retarded pride. He had no way to know if Iskander was worthy.
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>>122644230
FUCK YOU FRANCE
>muh invulnerability every aingle fucking turn for 12 turns
>muh 2k heal per turn
>muh stalling until you np in which case my fucking jannu is ready for her np
>this sequence keeps repeating on and on and on, only time I actually damage her is when I use jannus stun
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>DW claims to fix enemy servants abusing abilities
>Marie spamming shield every turn
Well done DW. Well fucking done.
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Do the new rider quests drops horseshoes?

I just need one more for Atila final ascension
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can the big dragon get insta-killed by Jing-kek's NP? because otherwise i'm fucked
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>>122665113
>>122665120
Use Taige CE or Drake's invincibility pierce skill.
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>>122665006
You should just accept the fact that people will never be satisfied
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>>122665006
It's like Kancolle all over again.
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I already want the old dailies back
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>>122665006
Dailies aren't supposed to be challenging.
Difficult battles in events or extra free quests were fine.
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Getting lots of dragon fangs. I'm pleased.
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>>122664306
I'm so sorry I'm always right
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>>122665006
There's a good fine line between this and the old daily you know
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>>122665179
>Use Taiga CE
>It doesn't work on invincible, only on dodge
Maximum stupid

>>122665167
No horseshoes in dailies. Only dragon fangs and scales

>>122665242
Who are you to determine what dailies are supposed to be?
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>>122660817
Just don't use berserkers on berserkers. My level 90 Attila support got a lucky BBC with 2 crits and took out the last wave in one turn.
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>Marie forced me to use command spells because she spam shield and I only the only assassins I have high lvl is Hassan and REGEND but both is but gated at 2nd ascen by gears
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>>122664935
What headcanon? i said that quote shows just how much he knows about Ea.
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>>122665113
I didn't have jannu so it was this except her stalling was perfect against me until she nps for team kill due to master dodge recharging too slow
Ended up getting lucky due to her using charm 3 times on grill characters
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FUCK YOU MARIE, I HOPE SANSON CHOPS OFF YOUR HEAD MORE
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>there are people who RIGHT NOW don't build 3 NP during Wave 1 & 2 and then unleash hell on Wave 3
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>>122665480
Good luck getting killed by the dragon
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>>122665330
>>It doesn't work on invincible, only on dodge
That's lame. We'll probably get a CE for that eventually though. At least Drake can help for now.
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>>122665242
Why don't you just BBC spam like how everyone else is doing it? I mean, people were saying it's the only tactic that matters.

Or don't tell me that doesn't work anymore and you actually have to use different strategies to beat these dailies?
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>>122665480
There are people that don't NP build wave 1 and unleash hell on both waves 2 and 3? baka
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>>122665480
>try to build NP on wave 2
>dragon
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>>122665480
>he used an arts team and beat fafnir without any np usage
Uwut

I find it a kind of poetic that its marie with dragons aka france v1 all over again
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>roll ticket single for Lancelot
>archer
>oh boy another David
>sparkles
>I already have Atalanta and Kekslut
>Please be Emiya, please
>this
Absolute shit luck that transcends multiple planes of existence
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>>122665672
Everyone keeps getting her except me ;_;
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>>122665518
>>122665583
What dragon? I got Shadow Blackbeard and 2 wyverns in 40AP.
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>>122665672
Fuck off
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>that guy in my friendlist with level 80 Carmilla as support.

THANK YOU BASED CARMILLA
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>>122665672
I know your pain. I also pulled her despite having Gilgamesh already.
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>>122665757
You're (un)lucky you got the easy wave 2 than since most of us got fafnir (and a reverse scale).
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>>122665212
>40 ap
>2 Red gems
>1 Rider Piece
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>>122665672
>tfw I pulled her instead of Drake
>tfw I already have Gil
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>>122665178

someone has an idea? i've been reloading that turn with no luck, just wanna be sure
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>>122665816
At least Gil is one of the god tier units in the game, I literally tapped twice in the 5* pool and out of all the possible good units I got her, TWICE
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>>122665867
How's the drop rate for the scales? I got one on my first go, but that might have been just luck.
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>>122665357
He knows EA was EX and that it could wipe out Chtulu in one blow, meaning he knew about EA's firepower. Maybe he didn't know of the concept itself, or he did know but at the same time didn't know it would have such effect against Reality Marbles. Not even the reader knew at that point that EA worked the way it does against Reality Marbles.

Tokiomi wasn't really paying attention to the effect of the NP either, but at the rank of the NP being EX.
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>>122665672
>tfw I wouldn't mind getting her and leveling her to her 3rd sprite
Damn my dick.
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>>122665672
screw you buddy, I would be really excited to boot my orion's NP
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>>122665926
Three times so far
Met neetpirate twice and only met dragon once which dropped it.
Gotta wait for spreadsheet autist for the numbers and rarity
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>>122665926
Better than talons

They do this shit on purpose and it pisses me off to no end
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Diarmuid?
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Fuck Marie, I had to waste 3 command spells because she spammed full time invincibility + charm. 5+ consecutive turns of invincibility is just stupid, DW better patch this shit
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This fight makes me glad I fully ascended my Carmilla with lvl 3 NP.
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>marta and tamamo cat both need talons
>only have enough for one
Wut do?
I have both an arts team and a buster team if that matters
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>>122666215
Ascend cat and do her interlude for 3-4 talons
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>>122666215
Tamamo Cat is awful, honestly. I'd go for Martha. Just ascend Cat enough to do her interlude and stop there.
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>>122665113
Tfw this happened to me too minus the jeanne so I died to her np.
Anyone here use male servants against marie and get charm spammed? I want to know the suffering I went though was shared.
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Was having two of the same enemy with almost identical HP but different levels really necessary DW?
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>>122666192
>"this game sucks because it's too easy"
>they add in actual hard missions
>"eww this game sucks because it's too hard"
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>>122666348

>male servants

you deserve it fag
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>>122666269
Already got them, the only talons I have ever gotten were from her interlude.
I guess I'll go for martha for now and grind the other 2 talons from roma.
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>>122666215
Choose with your dick
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>>122666459
There is a difference between hard and simple utter bullshit. Marie can technically spam shield every turn and nothing can be done about it.
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Is it just me being unlucky or have the exp drop from the 30 ap gotten worse.
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>>122666605
Medea
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>>122665742
Do you want an orion account? Or roll her on your main?
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>>122666618
It feels like the previous 40ap on a bad run. Just do the 40ap one.
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>>122666679
Nah, I want her on my main.
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>>122666658
Kinda bad taking a caster against a rider.
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Guide to losing to marie:
>don't have a high level assassin
>don't have charged up np or a bbc combo ready turn 1
>use male units
>use units with single hit attacks
>don't use any units that can stop her np rape
>don't use drake/medea or any other buff/invincibility removal
How many of these was your team fgog?
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>>122666618
>>122666721
The last 30ap had mostly silver and a few gold

This shit is mostly bronze and a few silver/gold if you are lucky
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>>122666658
Caster. Marie wrecks her the moment she decides to attack her
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>>122666658
Bringing a caster to a fight a Rider.
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>>122666605
>Medea
>Brave Chain with an Assassin or Berserker
>David
Even fucking mindless BBC works on her since she's not a Berserker. Stop being such a shitter.
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>people are unironically having trouble with Marie
You guys cant be serious.
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>>122666658
>Caster
I'd tried it already if it weren't for that.
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>>122666215
Both are shit. Save them.
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>>122666832
>>122666834
>Medea with Hollow Magic from reserve
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>>122666845
Why wouldn't they be? Most of them have shit luck and servants.
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>>122663284
EMIYA not only got himself killed, he also got keked by Saber. So what a hero he was.
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Is there somewhere on the spreadsheet where we can give out accounts we dont care/touch anymore?
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>>122666845
If you can't kill her turn 1, she starts stacking heals up to 2k per turn as well as invincibility spamming.
If your team is male, prepare for charm spam as well.
Meanwhile, every turn her np guage is charging for her aoe rape which charges faster than master dodge spell.
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>>122666845
It's not that bad if you didn't get shield spam or wave 2 Fafnir otherwise you're fucked cause you're forced to use NP on it.
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What CE is good on Waver? I just see him as a buff np support so I don't really know what could work
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>>122666957
You can do the whole thing with silvers and bronzes.
You guys must honestly just enjoy whining.
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>>122666808
>tfw was nearly everything on this list due to fafnir
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>>122666618
I think you get more golds now since the last wave has lvl55 gold hands. Waves 1-2 are basically the same shit as before. It's absolute horseshit though since you still get bronze xp.

The difference between 30AP and 40AP in both drop quality and difficulty is enormous. The old 40AP is about half-way between in difficulty.
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>>122666983
Well there's David and Jeanne at least. I'd say casko paired up with them is the best counter if it weren't for her being a caster
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>>122667081
Than prove it.
You say stuff with absolutely zero proof to back it up.
Either make a video of beating it with silver and bronzes or fuck off.
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>>122667071
Formalcraft or 4 star emiya. He hits pretty decent for a Caster with Formalcraft.
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>>122666000
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>>122666980
No, give them here.
At least here there's a chance acc4begging won't get it.
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>>122665023
Why wouldn't he think Ea isn't an option? it's just a hypothetical situation like it would make more sense if he thought that he would be forced to use a CS to defeat IH if Gil doesn't recognize Iskandar.

>>122665927
So he doesn't know what his servant true power is (why is this EX NP anti-world?) and doesn't bother with knowing what the enemy NP actually does it's all just because muh EX, which i think qualifies him as a retard.
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>>122666937
That's unnecesary. Medea's NP charge skill gives 101% at lvl4. At lvl1 it gives 80% so you only need a Leyline or unascended Iri to get 100% in one turn.
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>watching Fate/Zero ep 12
>Rider just straight up goes to Eizenbern castle to have a drink with his fellow rulers
Holy shit why Iskander is such bro?
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So Carmilla pretty much became a must need servant for this daily. She can prob do 100k+ damage on Marie.
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>>122667194
Don't be a fuckwit, there are videos of people beating the Halloween boss rush with bronzes, and this is much easier then that.
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Finally
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40AP was a piece of cake.
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>>122666843
>Brave Chain with an Assassin or Berserker
yeah, unless he is charmed and only the 3rd hit is probably going to go damage her because of invincibility
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>>122667371
You mean the whale who made a perfect counter team and kept talking throughout the video abiut needing to reset if he gets unlucky?
Most people with shit luck and only silver/bronze would rarely have a perfect counter team to marie, at best they would have a max ascended hassan or kojirou which isn't enough against le invulnerability stall until np
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>>122667394
Good job anon, i need four god damn hearts for mine
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>>122667278
That still means dealing with that ugly dress after the NP's over.
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Today is the day?
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Jason did nothing wrong.
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>>122667583
That's why you ascend her to Stage 3, so the NP outfit stays on permanently.
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>>122667716
>1.3m QP only
Don't think so.
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>>122667435
Martha or Marie alongside your male Assassin/Berserker. Besides, there are times when she casts her Charm on a female despite there being a male present.
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>>122667716
Not with that qp, enjoy waiting till sunday
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>shield spam

so what the fuck do i actually do? can't hit her at all and she gets at least one hit every turn
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>>122664053
HAATO NO BIITO WA DORAGON SUKEEIRUUU
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>>122667557
>team is bronze
>he's a whale, normal people can't do that
Are you actually retarded?
Even a relatively underleveled team of Hassan, Kojirou and Jing Ke completely destroy this map.
Berserkers and other strong low stars like Blackbeard or Cu make it just tedious.
The only way you could have an issue is if you don't level any assassins at all, which is entirely that persons fault for being retarded.
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>this event

literally nothing

what the fuck? i cant do anything since i'm wasting AP on exp [15k is too fucking much for 40 ap]

these changes makes the game objectively worst

10 new tickets can stay though
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How many buffs is too many buffs?
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>>122667776
>>122667753
>sunday
1.5 week old Jeanne, perfect!
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Was about to powerlevel Carmilla from 1 to 80 but then I saw I don't have any Snake Jewels left. Welp.
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>>122668018
>changes make the game worse because I'm a low level shitter
fuck off and git gud
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Anyone got a comparison between the old arondight and the new arondight
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>>122668152
>10 talons
Fuck off
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Apparently people here never heard of skill seal NPs and such
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>>122668204
I took a screenshot before and after, will post it later.
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>>122667773
that is shitty game design, it's not like I can't beat it, the problem is that it's bullshit to put such a specific difficulty that I need to prepare an entire team to counter it on a daily quest, there is a reason why cooldowns exist.

Defending this poor game design choice is just stupid, it's potentially game breaking for people that don't have many gold servants and it's still frustrating for people that have them but get unlucky.

There are counters for this shit but a DAILY quest shouldn't require you to build a team to counter a frustrating gimmick.
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>>122668325
Jus fucking replace her with Ann and Mary

There a Rider and problem solved.

DW is fucking stupid making Enemies have no Cooldown and there are enemies with Invincibility skill

Note Invincibility. Shield. Not dodge Taiga CE
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>>122668227
>using caligula
Is this meant to be a meme?
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>>122668325
>my stupidity in not leveling an assassin is poor game design
>putting the rock to Maries scissors in my team is too hard
hahahahahahahahaha
You don't need a single gold servant, you gigantic faggot
You not leveling lower star servants is entirely your fault
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>>122667351
11
You are watching ep 11
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>All these people having difficulty
>not just ohkoing her turn 1
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at least the np gauge builds off of invincible hits
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>tfw level 70 ancient shiki

This daily is really fun.
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>>122668619
The problem is Marie fucking spamming Invincibility every single fucking Turn and no reliable way to remove it

Medea? She's a Caster two hits and Marie kills her

And its Shield. So shit like David and Drake's True Strike doesn't cut through

Kira Kira deserved the fucking Guillotine if she was this annoying
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>>122668021
>no double Andersen buffs

That's not even enough.
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>>122668529
150% at NP level 5
Easy to ascend

Also, David's NP does the same but here the effect is overcharge dependent

Not my fault you didn't level servants with utility NPs
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>>122667335
>So he doesn't know what his servant true power is
Maybe he does know, but like I said, no way to know what effects it would have against Reality Marbles, until it actually happened. Anti-World simple means that it attacks everything in sight with a single strike. Besides that, the fact is, IH went down faster than other RMs would, it wasn't directly destroyed by EA's concept, but by many of the soldiers inside dying, making it impossible to maintain. Looking at firepower alone, EA would not have been enough to wipe out EA unless Gil used it to kill Iskander himself.

>and doesn't bother with knowing what the enemy NP actually does it's all just because muh EX
That's far more accurate, he did mention he was worried about the rank only.

>which i think qualifies him as a retard.
Why would that qualify him as a retard? The enemy has a NP rank EX. His reaction is only natural considering the circumstances. Without knowledge, Gilgamesh probably would have been wrecked, but even with knowledge, is there a way to defeat it? Tokiomi isn't in the war to get a good fight, he is there to win, he can't have any risks of losing.

I really don't get why people say Tokiomi was a retard, when his only mistake was summoning Gilgamesh.
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>>122668740
It took us over 100 days, but now she's actually useful!
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>>122668325
>There are counters for this shit but a DAILY quest shouldn't require you to build a team to counter a frustrating gimmick.
Then learn to use those counters. Poor game design or not, this is practically teaching you that you shouldn't rely on a single team composition to carry you through everything and yet here you are whining about it. Especially since people here like to complain about how braindead easy this damn game is to the point of relying on cheatapk just to get stuff done.
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Is it too late for me to hop on the FUCK MARIE train?
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>>122668227
Benkei has a skill-sealing skill. My god he might actually be useful.
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>>122668857
I like her
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>>122668916
I dunno man. Making a boss spam 'I am fucking Invincible' is not hard you know? Its just a dick move
Like Devil Saga don't do fucking this or Hitoshura throws a hissy fit and Gaea Rages everything
At least that one was optional. Dailies we kinda need them if we want to level up our servants
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>>122668619
>puts jing ke, kojiro and hassan vs Marie,
>Marie just gets invincibille for 3 attacks and then charms kojiro
>5 turns later she still has at least 50k+ HP and your entire linup gets shitted on by a crystal unicorn
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>>122668917
Never too late.
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>Pulled Dragon dick

Not even mad, I am just happy to get a golden servant finally after the Gil event.
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>>122668917
Lets be honest, this was the most fun fight you've had in weeks where bbc spam doesn't just kill her and shit like carmillia is actually useful
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>>122668979
Only for 1 turn and he chance is low when not leveled but 1 turn might be all you need
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Thank you based new 40AP EXP daily.
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Which would be better for dust farming 30ap or one of the free quests?
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>>122669071
gz anon
buff when
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>>122668979
It only lasts for one turn and can miss. Benkei is still shit.
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>no assassins all through the rider dailys
>pull up assassin daily
>Stheno support staring me right in the face

fuck off
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>>122667992
I kind of want to try it with this team (ignore the CEs for now), but I think it's a bit too underleveled.

It also feels kind of silly to waste AP on this considering I can nearly one-hit kill her with Carmilla's NP anyway.
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>>122669038
Both hassan and kojirou dodge the unicorn with their skills, master spell helps jing ke dodge.
Honestly marie is more annoying than actually hard, shes pretty simple to beat as long as your servant hits more than once since her invulnerability only stops 3 strikes
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>>122667335
Use a CS and then destroy their entire relationship? Sure sounds smart, you dealt with Iskander, wow, now what's next? How will you take down the others, considering you just fucked up your entire relationship with Gilgamesh? In fact, will you even be alive after that, will he even pay attention to your Command?
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>>122669038
>put Berserkers and high level support in the reserve line
Do you like to pretend support and those two extra slots don't exist or something?

>>122669113
I'm just liking how people are getting BTFO'd by a mission that's actually difficult.
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>>122668204
>>122668307
Done.

It looks like they had messed up the whole sprite, not just the sword.
It looks sharper now.
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>>122669318
>that cardboard Arondight
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>>122669239
Wait what
No only Brave Chain damages her
She no sells 3 Attacks full stop

Not 1 Arts from Emiya or Medusa and bye bye Shield
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>>122669318
Looks less blurry, but the edges are still jaggy.
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>>122668204
They changed Arondight?
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>>122669124
>>122669172
Yea, he is the worst. His NP stun chance should be 100% at lvl5 since it's the only actually useful effect in it.
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Should I do a memeroll?
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>>122669220
There's nothing else to use the ap on anyway

>not playing to have fun
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>>122669071
>rolling this gacha
Why? What did you hope to get?
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>they actually fucked up the difficulty spike
>didn't notice it during the berserker dailies
http://typemoon.com/news/2015/qoyjnd
I am not surprised they were this incompetent
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>>122669436
It's probably because of my phone's half hd resolution.
Someone with a full hd screen or higher should post a screen.
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>>122669220
This team has beaten Marie three times now, you shouldn't have an issue.
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https://twitter.com/fgoproject/status/667016048508473344


"We heard you pathetic manchildren whine about the difficulty so we'll adjust it, okay? Stop shitting the bed now."
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>>122669560
>>122669607
I wonder if they over tuned it by mistake or if this is really just a response to complaints. Are the nips shitting on their twitter?
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>>122669560
>qoyjnd
>goyim

My sides
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>>122669239
Jing-ke or Hassan might insta-kill Marie through her shield.
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>>122669551
I dunno man, I got Pirate Sluts, Imaginary Around, and Hakuno out of it.
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>>122669607
niggers
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>>122669659
Probably a reaction to the bitching. In which case it shows they are listening a bit
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>>122669607
Well shit, I was actually having a bit of fun for once.
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>>122669607
I can clear it just fine, but the original difficulty of those dailies did seem a bit over tuned especially since the original ones were so easy. Besides it's not like they got so much better so as to justify it.
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>>122669179
If she's level 65, you're welcome. I left my Stheno as support since I chose her in September.

111,827,175
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>>122669607
Too bad, it was fun while it lasted.
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>>122669607
>adjusting the difficulty
Fucking hell, I was having fun for once but nope, back to bbc I go due to DW having no nerves
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>>122669551
I like Waver and am a RoTK nerd. I only used 3 summon tickets though, I have 80+ gems saved for something that might really interest me.
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>>122669560
>they fucked it up
Am I the only one who's disappointed? I'm actually having fun on these dailies, can't BBC it in 1 minute anymore but these new teams I'm trying out are rather refreshing and enjoyable, what a shame they're nerfing it
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>>122669560
I would bet those missions were all already coded event missions and intern-kun mixed the data
Again
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>>122669607
Just make the Rider someone other than Marie and people would probably bitch less.
>they change her to Drake
>3 actions of her spamming her 3rd skill
>Golden Wild Hunt by turn 2
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Casuals ruin everything again.
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>>122669542
Yeah, you're right about that.
I'll try it once I have enough AP again.
If the quest is still the same by that time.
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>>122668916
Honestly, there is a major problem if you need specific party members in a game where getting said party members is completely randomized.
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>nerfing the one thing that made this shit fun

goddammit
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>>122669607
Why don't they just make "Hardmode Dailies/Weekly" quests? They can just implement them along side ordinary dailies and give an incentive to complete them with actually good rates and difficult fights.
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>>122669607
>lowering difficulty
Literally learn to not be such a cvck
Out the window the fun times go
>>
Probably something like this happened at DW HQ

"Sir, some people are having fun?"

"What about the whales?"

"Complaining about the difficulty and being unable to use their waifu teams, Sir."

"Issue a statement that we are nerfing the dailies difficulty"

"But Sir-"

"The whales are always right."
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>>122669856
Someone needs to look through the data ASAP and see what's there before it gets changed
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>>122669856
I would have fun to have hard quests like this, even harder, as the last fight in some event but these mission are not something you should put as a daily quest.
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>>122669927
How is an entire class a specific counter.
Thanks to people like you, this game is now even less fun.
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>>122669925
Are you forgetting this is a phone game? What's more casual than that?
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>>122669927
It's almost like they tried to make it worth leveling a set of lower star servants to cover all bases for situations like this!
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>>122669967
The 40ap quests were supposed to be exactly what you said: hard mode.
To bad the rates will never be good.
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>>122669583

you fucking liar, I have a better rider in a similar team and I still had to pull my CS out of the ass and win by sealing her skills a couple times to win

I dropped 12 offensive NP's on her total (a couple wasted on her shields so I could do at least some damage with brave attacks from dying servants)

that's the most offense power i've used on anything ever because of how much the shield fucks up the timing, not even because of her hp

and now you want me to believe your shit?
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18/11/15-19/11/15
The day /fgog/ had fun.
Well it was nice whilst it lasted
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>>122669971
my only problem is they upped the difficulty without adding ANY kind of reward

old 40AP and new 40AP have same reward, except the new 40AP have much more higher barrier

i'm pretty sure nobod would mad if they released 5 star EXP card and make it drop on the new 40 AP
>>
Great, straight back to shitty content that is a breeze to go through.
>>
Someone give me a Marie pic for the next op
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And here i was thinking of leveling all my 2* and 3* just to counter the dailies.
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>>122669927
If this was my first mobage, I'd agree with you, but Brave Frontier made me numb to this sort of thing and also that argument is kind of dumb to begin with since this is making people actually use different Servants instead of the usual team full of 4*s.

>>122669967
40AP is supposed to be hard mode.
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>>122670176
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Now I have to re-record everything after they "fix" the difficulty
Thanks DW

>>122670037
You cannot datamine the contents of battles

>>122670176
Pic relaed
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oh! 10 tickets from mana prisms
>>
shit, just realized my jing-ke had the male resisting CE for farming horseshoes
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>>122670154
No reward beaides you know fun which we hardly get inthis shitty game
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>>122670176
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>>122670293
Perfect
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19
>Anti-World simple means that it attacks everything in sight with a single strike.
What

and the fact that IH can be brought downwithout even using Ea's anti-world property just make Tokiomi seems even more of a retard

>be master of the strongest heroic spirit
>some enemy have EX NP
>doesn't actually know what it does
>oh shit my servant probably can't do anything against it what the fuck do i do

>>122669290
That's why i said forced it's an option that will cost him but it's still an option that is better than actually losing his servant.
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>>122670293
Kira kira kira kira kagayaku no~
>>
Medea did everything wrong.
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>>122670147
You can scream and cry all you want, but that is my team. I'm a huge waifufag who only pulled gold males, so my main teams are silver and bronze.
Its not my problem if you are so incompetent a single skill ruins your entire team comp.
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>you guys want easy quests

Litterally no one complained about the berserker daily that was harder than before other than the droprates still being shit

Everyone complained on this because permanent invincibility for 3 attacks every turn is a frustrating and stupid gimick and has no spot in a mobile game daily quest
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>>122670323
>last wave of basakah, full HP saber died within 2 hit

fuck it, make a separate/special 4/5 star servant and make it drop on 40 AP raids, add fucking something
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>>122670293
Holy shit
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>>122670176
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>>122670154
>much higher chance of monument at the end
>not a good enough reward

>>122669560
The nips are seriously complaining that this is hard? Holy shit, fucking Lancelot was harder than this. At least fucking Marie doesn't one shot a Servant every turn.

>>122670176
>>
>>122670176
Are you going to put the info about the updates?
Remember the links to the wiki.
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>>122670176
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>>122670610
No she just spams invincibility every single fucking turn making OUR turns fucking useless
>>
>>122670610
Upping the reward should be a baseline expectation because the old dailies were shit.
>>
>>122670754
Yep they are there
New thread
>>122671015
>>122671015
>>122671015
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>>122669881
Her third skill gives ability to go through invulns also, right? That makes Jeanne useless. You'd need defense buff or attack debuff here so Mashu, Boudica, Asterios, Mata Hari or Mozart. Actually Mata Hari's NP would be a bad idea since you might charm her and then all your 1 turn buffs go away. Mozart also wouldn't be certain to debuff. Asterios would be the best since with this interlude upgrade and lvl5 NP he would drop the damage to less than half (-60% atk for 1 turn).

Wait, do percentage buffs/debuffs stack additively or multiplicatively? Because if they're multiplicative, then the combo of Asterios + Mozart debuff would reduce an enemy's attack to zero. That's better than an invuln, dodge or 100% defense since it reduces damage to zero of every kind of attack (invuln or dodge piercing, defense bypassing). And it would work against Marie's NP too since it does damage before removing debuffs, I think.
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>>122671124
Evade =/= Invuln.
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>>122670003
Thank god for whales, for once.
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>>122670003
If anything, whales are the ones that would breeze through this.
I ran this with Drake. and Kintoki, both at level 1 NP with an interlude upgraded support Waver. It's not the most whale party, but even I managed to finish Marie off within 2 turns. The real whales with multiple NP upgraded 5*s should have no problem at all.
The problem is that the typical f2p player is going to get btfo by the difficulty jump.
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>>122670404
Anti World means affecting the "World" (not the Planet itself). In EA's case, it's pretty much attacking everything in sight, because he isn't attacking anything in particular, but the "World" itself.

>and the fact that IH can be brought downwithout even using Ea's anti-world property
No, EA's concept was in effect. The problem is that because the world was crumbling, many Servants inside IH died, which made the RM disappear because of the lack of prana. Tokiomi had no way to know that you could take down IH by just killing a big number of soldiers either.

>be master of the strongest heroic spirit
>the strongest heroic spirit
Oh boy, this meme again. I don't remember Tokiomi being the Master of Saber Alter.
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>>122671992
>>the strongest heroic spirit
>Saber Alter
>Needs help to defeat Herk
>Loses to a Medusa and Shirou team
>Loses to Shirou solo
Kek
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>>122671992
Ea is anti-world because it can destroy RM it's as simple as that i'm pretty sure that it's beamu doesn't attack everything or only attack something in his field of visiion

>The only thing that wasn't part of the calculations was— maybe that the strongest Heroic Spirit, Gilgamesh, had come to the present time in the Archer class.
And the retard begs to differ.
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>>122672679
>the strongest heroic spirit
>Gilgamesh
>Needs to focus Illya in order to defeat Herkek
>Loses to Shirou Saber solo
>Loses to Shirou solo
>Loses to Sakura solo
>Loses to Gawain in CCC
>Loses to True Archer
>Origin form loses to Liz
Kek
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>shadow Blackbeard - monument
>Marie - piece
>Boudica - monument
Sure, I'm happy but their drop rates are still hilarious.
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>>122672834
fuck meant that the anti-world property doesn't just attack what he can see
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>>122672834
>Ea is anti-world because it can destroy RM
That's not what Anti World means at all.

>And the retard begs to differ.
At the time of Zero, he was the strongest of proper Heroic Spirits. Alter isn't exactly proper, you know.
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>>122673181
>proper
Oh look, it's this meme again.
>>
>>122673025
So Gil is a jobber, we all known that i just meant that Alter is not the strongest Heroic Spirit,
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>>122673243
Materials are memes now? Because that's what the Material says, proper. The only strongest without any "proper" or whatever is Saber Alter.
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>>122673181
I didn't see anything that says Tokiomi thought that Gil is just the strongest proper heroic spirit.
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>>122673264
>Losing her limitations and gaining in one way more power than she had when she was alive, she is probably, without dispute, the strongest Servant.
She is, without dispute.
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>>122673459
see
>>122672679
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>>122673459
>Servant
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>>122673459
>probably
:^)
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>>122673459
>the strongest Servant.
And how many other servants are called that too.
The materials are like a thirsty men how calls all women that he meet the most beautiful hoping to get lucky once.
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>>122673364
You think Tokiomi is omniscient? You have been arguing like if he had that from the beginning. He probably doesn't even know that non proper Heroic Spirits like Alter could exist.

It's confirmed that Servant Xian = too strong for the 4th War, meaning that Tokiomi was wrong in that aspect, unless Xian aren't proper either. After all, the original script for Iskander to be an actual equal to Gilgamesh was that he was going to be a non proper Servant without a class summoned in the 4th War.
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>>122673898
>Servant Xian
>Servant Aristotle
>Servant Plato
>Servant Socrates
WHEN
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>>122673459
> probably
> without dispute
Wow, contradiction even in the description. Also, she was defeated by a Shirou with one hand of Archer.
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>>122673898
Tokiomi think that Gil is the strongest HS i'm not fucking arguing that Gil IS the strongest HS.
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>>122674171
The fact that he was too strong even for a war that had UNRIVALED, Gilgamesh and Arturia in it makes me wonder what the fuck he would be. He is probably BB or Buddha tier or some shit like that.
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>>122674538
Probably a qt girl.
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Well, if we are talking about power levels, you may as well answer my question:
>Saber Alter + EMIYA (add big amount of mana if needed) vs Serious Gil
How the fight would go and who would win?
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