/wowsg/ - World of Warships & Steel Ocean [& shipsluts]

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pure love

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>>122622013
Now, this is a good OP.

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Botesluts.

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>>122622440
Boring kind

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Still no change to dogfighting or armor?

>>122622849
Dogfighting is getting fixed in 0.5.1.2

Anyone playing WoWS NA?

I can div any tier. Hanging out on the /vg/ channel.

>>122622849
AP bug is already fixed since the previous week.
Dogfighting getting fixed on the 19th.

>>122623005
;3 il be on inna bit

look for MadCroc

so the karl is irredeemable shit right?

I can't even kill destroyers

patch .5.1.2 has hit SEA

whats the main /vg/ channel?

Steel Ocean - this is how navy field 2 supposed to be
not that piece of shit

>>122625362
No it hasn't, it's scheduled for tomorrow. Only the news page is up.

>>122627148
The antibullyranger-ricotta-something-something one.

is this steel ocean any good? should i even try it out?

>>122627774
If memory serves me correctly, 5AM UTC +8 is equivalent to 8AM UTC +11 which is my location, Sydney.
It's currently 3PM in sydney, I'm pretty sure the patch has hit.

>>122627967
It's essentially WoT with boats replaceing the tank models, arty aiming (i.e., stop and aim), no view range (everyone can see like 5 km)

The big plus are controllable secondaries and AA.

Their jewing model is literally 'buy many boxes so you can have OP crews after opening them, the contents of each box are random'
Also, textures from 2005. It looks like some shitty phonegame.

>>122627967
no its waste of time

shitters from WoWs play it but they're delusional

The Kiev should or not be nerfed?

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>>122628748
My game launcher isn't updating.

Also, pic related.
>18/11/2015
>19/11/2015

>>122630597
pls tell me how you can add mulitple clocks m8

>>122630679
Assuming you're using Windows 7 (I don't use communist operating systems like 8.1 or 10):
>right click clock on taskbar
>click "Adjust date/time"
>go to "Additional clocks" tab
>tick some shit, use the dropdowns

>>122627967
It has some pros over WoWS. Namely, controllable secondaries and AA. And subs.

It has some cons tho. Namely, lottery boxes, shitty textures, RC car handling and WoT-artillery aiming. And subs.

>>122630818
thank you family

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>>122630978
And just for the sake of it:

>Your client is already running the latest version.

Trust me, I'm a supertester. I have the server maint dates burned into the back of my mind.

>>122631065
>Chinese client

for what purpose

>>122631136
he's chinese australian

>>122631280
Good goy enjoy some diversity, it'll benefit your country

aim assist when

>>122631136
Making sure the Chinese client isn't broken. And I assure you, it's quite broken. WG still hasn't fixed the problems I've pointed out over 8 months ago.

Also what >>122631280 he said.

>>122631361
Surprisingly, I'm very right-wing and anti-immigration. During the previous election I voted for the Rise Up Australia party. I don't understand why this country is full of people who think that there will be enough jobs for everyone, if 150,000 people come over every year. The future of this country feels bleak.

I was born here, and when my parents came to Australia in the late 1980s, the country only took in 20,000 people every year, which was decently sustainable.

>>122631660
R u me anon?
except for the supertester bit, i'm just a mere mortal Cbeta tester

>>122631660
>Surprisingly, I'm very right-wing and anti-immigration

>i'm a chink whose parents managed to slip into australia
>now im very anti-immigration, im a special case, other chinks let live in the chinkland :^)

>>122631889
Most of the Chinese I know are political conservatives. It's the PRC-born immigrants who've come to Australia within the past 5 years who are whiny and always asking to be spoonfed for everything.

>>122631991
I pay the taxes which go towards social benefits, though. I don't mind people getting Centrelink payments if they need it, but there is a limit to how realistic the benefits net can be spread.

I see how I can be perceived to be hypocritical, but I do have a say in how many people should be allowed in this country, since I'm the one helping to pay for it. If I was a leecher, then that would be a different story.

>>122632339
implying anybody except refugees gets any gov support
ordinary skilled immigrants work

>>122632552
Everybody in Australia gets Medicare, regardless of income bracket.

Another 150,000 people coming each year means that the PBS has to cover an additional 150,000 eligible people.

>>122632684
and i suppose everybody who works also pays taxes which goes into that medicare

god, chinks, especially hypocritical fascist chinks are stupid

btw, skilled immigration boosts economy, it's the main reason why it's permitted and even encouraged

it's main drawback it's that it creates social tensions

>>122632986
wog (greek) here

true desu senpai, i'm third generation

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>>122631660
hello yuyuko

>>122632853
The number of entrants to Australia has dramatically risen over the past 20 years, but the number of vacant jobs has not met the same trends. If people are getting jobs, then what is happening to the statistical gap between people and jobs? Then, if more people are being unable to obtain jobs, who is paying the taxes?

It doesn't matter if a city has 200,000 people or 250,000 people, there will always be X positions available for civil engineers, Y positions available for software developers, and Z positions available for horse breeders. The value of X, Y and Z only increase based on market fluctuations (e.g. is the horse export market profitable enough for an expansion? Are people purchasing software?), and not the overall population.

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>crashes on loading
>takes like 5 minutes to get back into the game because toaster
>met with 4 ships at sub 15km with me at 60%
>still end up living and coming top score
these are your teammates

>>122632986
Only for the production sector, and some areas of the services sector. In regards to the manufacturing sector, it is consumer demand (both export and domestic), not immigration, which dictates how many people can be employed within these jobs.

For services jobs such as mechanics and hairdressers, the more people there are, the more customers there will be. However, for some jobs, the positions are limited by other factors, and immigration only leads to increased competition between applicants.

Call me selfish, but I really don't like the idea of having to compete with someone in ten years' time, especially if this person is someone who can do a better job at me, while only needing to be paid a fraction of what I get paid.

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>>122622849
its still RNG shit

they aren't going to "fix" it, its just going to be "improved" RNG shit

>>122632986
and none of the immigration is "skilled" at all and all of the countries they're heading to have high unemployment

increased immigration strains the economy and keeps low skill jobs out of reach by absolutely saturating the labor supply and making the work worthless. Where theres a guy who will do a job for 9 dollars an hour, a fucking immigrant will do it for less.

>>122633275
>>122632986
>>122632853
>>122632684
>>122633976
>>122634523
/wowsg/ - Immigration

>>122634669
I'm sorry. My original post was a response that's directed at a /pol/ meme post (>>122631361), but I only expected there to be 1 or 2 replies until the topic dies off.

>>122633934
if i bothered i'd ask those players what your name is

don't hide your name again anon

>>122633275

that's why the flow is controlled
obviously nobody wants to increase unemployment that's why they let in less people during an economical crisis

>>122633976

immigration increases the amount of working and economically active population which stirs the market as well as the economy, and the competition, which it brings, stirs it as well

for instance, somebody wants to found a company/to make a filial of his company somewhere but he couldn't hire people because the salary of the specialists (or even just workers) would be too high... unless the market of those specialists/workers gets bigger with an immigration

or another simple example, an immigrant opens a shop in a block where already there was a shop, but his shop has a better price policy or assortment and it drags some customers from the old one, the owner of the old shop have to do something to make his shop better and now the district has two better shops which benefits everybody except the owner of the old shop

obviously it all creates social tensions as i already said... but it boosts the economy, contrary to what many people believe

>Call me selfish, but I really don't like the idea of having to compete with someone in ten years' time, especially if this person is someone who can do a better job at me, while only needing to be paid a fraction of what I get paid.

don't claim that you fight for the well-being of your country then, you fight for your personal well-being
overreacting too, since the government will not really allow the competition to be too hard for you; but you don't want to give others any chance

>>122635107
I blank out my name on anything, because that's the point of being anonymous instead of an attention whoring tripfag.

>>122635353
Some might say that censoring your name actually attracts attention, though. It shows that you took the effort into doing it, and it's very noticeable for people to see a big black/white/grey box in a screenshot.

In most cases where people don't bother removing names from screenshots, nobody notices the name, or even cares..

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155mm or 203mm?
I had demolition expert btw

>>122636154
155mm because you get that other 1 point bonus really good too

>>122633934
Do you have potato computer , anon?

>>122636154
203mm probably, the 155mms are best with the 20% range increase that'll keep you at a slightly safer distance from insta-cits.

>>122635474
That sounds really stupid.

It's not like it takes effort to open the screenshot in mspaint and just slap a box over your name.

>>122636313
yes

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>log in to do my daily 10k slog through Lexington
>pic related
>cry and log out
All I can do as my team crumbles in front of me is clear the skies and watch Tirpitz's die to DD torps and that 1 remaining Lexington torp plane.
Even if I do 100k damage and shoot down 60 planes, we always lose.
And since it's SEA, I have no friends either.
someone save me

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>>122636294
Is it a good idea to get 155mm range extension skill and ignore tier 5 skill?
How bad was shell travel time?

>>122636470
Back in the WoT general, every time I put up a normal screenshot nobody cared. People threw a fit after I started hiding my name ("why are you hiding your name faggot etc etc")

It doesn't make sense but it's what people are like

>>122636561
>How bad was shell travel time?
on which ship?

>>122636812
Mogami

>>122636994
It's not too bad, but you will have to lead more than you're used to.

Guys I have a question. If on Two Brothers, in a T7-8 game, your entire fleet of NCs, Tirpitzs and Nagatos head to the right, you initially went with them but when you see 75% of their high tiers charging down the left, and they leave some DD's and mogamis to bait your team, you team takes it, and u are in a nagato, do you:
a.Turn back and try to delay the advance
b.Follow your mates

Cause I seem to be making these decisions 80% of the time. Help.

>>122637793
I hope its not Cleveland bad

Why are the Derzki's torps such shit?

>actually chase down and bait a wyoming
>hit him 7 fucking times with torps
>he lives

>>122638020
You get some friends and turn back.

>>122638292
Nope. Though it can get frustrating when people start to maneuver at longer ranges, but that happens with any ship that has long range guns.

>>122638534
But anon, what if my friends don't speak english? Or if my friends seem to turn a blind eye to me spam pinging the minimap for 2 minutes?

>>122638845
To clarify; friends means division mates of the highest quality

>>122638979
Then I guess I don't have that many friends then.

>>122639054
What server are you?

>>122636523

Play Steel Ocean.

>>122639103
SEA

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>>122639276
I already do (did)

>>122639327
pic related is also my WoWS IGN, let's play some

>>122639590
Sure. I don't play too much nowadays though. I'll contact you if I do. What's your timezone?

>>122639590

I'm working on my Lady Lex in Steel Ocean. WoWs CV mechanics seem so god damn primitive compared to SO.

>>122639767
UTC +11, Sydney (Aus)

>>122639791
Anu is that you? Pls i'm not here for crkjrk
They sure are, but the SO grind is even worse because no prem.

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>>122639869

Yes. I'm just about to go to bed. I honestly wanted to play the Yorktown, but I'm advancing to fast for the game population to keep up and can't get any games.
Good luck with your Lexington grind.

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>>122639869
Mine's UTC+8. IGN's pic .

>>122640210
Added, hopefully we can play together soon. Take care anon.

why did they ruin hotspot

it's now generic as fuck

>>122640365
You too anon.

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84th for Ducky

What's better for nagato, accuracy or secondary range?

20% would just put it at 6.6km, which isn't that great when most engagements take place between 10 and 15km. But I hear it's great on it.

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a typical japanese streamer

i bet it's a guy who, were he a girl, would stream with his photo taking 3/4 of the screen, also weren't he japanese he would probably be blond

>>122642137
It used to be great, back when secondaries actually could shoot for shit. I played with it, and aside from detonating a typical SuiSims shitter and starting a grand total of 4 or 5 fires on other battleships, it wasn't that useful. Go with the accuracy mod instead.

>>122642137
Accuracy. Despite all that talk about nagato being a sniper, the mod actually makes it that way, rather than the ship itself.

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>>122631660
Get out there and create jobs hunting Cane Toads Anon! Make millions if you can figure out how to stem the plague of toads :^)

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wew

>>122642184
>the twitch chat
>che za khuinya/чe зa хyйня
>"this is trash"

>>122644551
Where's your fatty Techno?
I'm disappointed...

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>>122642184
B-but I can still see his stream and chat box..

He's not properly blocking out the window with images!

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>>122644819
In dock resting

>>122644954
MOOOOODS
I SEE A NIPPLE!

>>122642184
"等待艦娘秋活" (deng-dai jian-niang qiu-huo) is Chinese, and it means "Waiting for the Autumn event in KanColle".

"等待" (deng-dai) doesn't make sense in Japanese, it's a Chinese word. In Japanese, "waiting for" would be "期待" (kitai) or "待っています" (matteimasu). Also, "活" means "alive" in Japanese, but "event" (as an abbreviation of 活動) in Chinese.

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>>122644976
fug :DDDD

fffffffffffffffffffffffff is it me or the servers keep going up and down?

>>122644551
If everyone makes their own player names in their own language (Korean, Russian, whatever), how do you report abuse? You can't send a support ticket if you can't even read the language.

I see at least 4 languages in that screenshot. There's a guy named Cтaлин (Stalin) on the enemy team.

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>Mfw SO has subs, mfw playing the subs is actually a lot of fun

>>122645780
Did subs actually take part in decisive fleet battles, though?

I thought they were mainly for supply line harassment.

>>122645921
They sunk some retreating ships.

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>>122645921
They were attached to major fleets for hunting and sinking damaged ships, support ships ext.
Although keep in mind sub doctrine was different for each nation.

Also I don't even use my sub to kill borts, I hunt other subs.

ded game ded thread

Main battery accuracy or 10% main battery loading time + 15% traverse speed main battery upgrade on kiev?

>>122648369
second option, more dakka and being able to keep your guns on target is more better IMO

>>122648570
It's less dakka.

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Okay how do I properly deal with USN CVs running fighter loadouts as IJN? I generally just avoid any fighter contact and fly my tb/db along with the main fleet for cover until they get distracted by something.

>>122648570
True, the kiev already has some good accuracy I guess. Havnt tried hitting anything on 14-15 km yet though

kek steel ocean looks like shit why would you even play this? Plus submarines doesnt seem realistic at all

>>122649928
>playing subs
>not just destroying them

Why did submarines fail to take part in pitched surface battle, anyway?

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>>122636592

Not the guy your replying too...

But I hide my name for the same reason - I prefer to be anonymous. I'm not going to put my IGN out for people to look up my stats, and criticize my sub 50% winrate and using that as an excuse to disagree with anything I try and say.

Plus, my IGN is also my Steam name, and its used a few other places as well. I don;t want stalkers chasing me down through cyberspace.

I prefer to be just another unknown captain. You can call it attention whoring all you want - I don't give one single fuck

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>>122638525

6167 dam torpedoes, thats why.

The Storo can actually slav-suicide-rush and nuke Kawachi's and South'ys. The Derzki is just as likely to kill something as it is to be completely ineffectual.

Use her torps for knife-fighting other DD's. But really, by this point, you should be relying more on her guns. By the time you reach Izyaslav, you should understand that your role is a gunboat, and the Izy helps you do that with style.

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>>122650641

Too slow to keep up with surface groups.

IIRC, USN submarine doctrine was to give them an area to fuck shit up in on their own initiative.

Unrelated, I don't know why I ever thought that 50% WR matchmaking was just a meme. After getting gud and clawing my way to >65% WR in Isokaze, I've recently I've been completely unable to get victories it - my kills per game is still increasing, but the teams I'm getting saddled with are literally always like pic related.

>>122652039
If you had 60% winrate, you have nothing to be ashamed of.

>>122652338
You think win-based MM is of meme, tovarisch? You will be of surprised!

Is of all normal, you are think too much. No such thing as MM punishing good players, is merely rumours from provokatsi. You havings of any proofs?

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>>122652490

At current its 51%. Its gotten a bit higher since I last checked. Either way, its still terrible, and my average exp and damage per game would lead people to believe I do nothing at all during matches, which isn't the truth.

I'm not going to defend myself. Theres nothing to defend. I play to have fun, and I've never claimed to be great at the game.

>>122652839

Honestly I don't think overall winrate is a great yardstick of achievement. Everyone goes through a teething phase in the first few tiers of ships.

Take a look at the winrates of your favorite/most commonly played/most entertaining ships and use that as your yardstick.

For example, I own an Atago, but my winrate in it is some 43% because I played it a ton when I was still a noob and also because as I've matured as a player I've found out I'm just fucking awful with cruisers in general. By contrast, my winrates with DDs, BBs, and CVs are all >50%, and my personal favorites with each of those three are around 60%.

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>>122652995

I'm mostly interested in K\D Ratio. If I'm killing enemy ships, then I'm doing my job and contributing to a possible win.

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>>122653402
>K/D ratio

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>>122652338
>IIRC, USN submarine doctrine was to give them an area to fuck shit up in on their own initiative.


This is exact, you are correct Anon. One source: Escape from the Deep by Alex Kershaw. Story is about Robert 'Dick' O'Kane and his time as the Co on the USS Tang, a Balao class sub. Basically orders were 'go shoot japs over here'

>>122653402

I don't like K/D ratio as a measurement because I see a lot of idiot KDR fishers and shortsighted credit/XP hobos go chase ships on their last legs for a good several minutes/the entire rest of the fucking game rather than simply capping points in domination mode, or ships leaving a main base capture because they totally want to chase down a carrier that has no planes anyways EVEN AFTER I TELL THEM THEY HAVE NO PLANES and then the enemy team comes back to their base and contests what could have been a secured capture.

Also, it encourages killstealing and attempting to flee the battle prematurely. People often cite "if I die, I give the enemy points", but if everyone takes that attitude and runs away at low health, the entire team dies anyways. Often it's optimal to stick in until you go down.

If you're going to look at anything, look at Ship Kill Rate. If that's above 1.0, you're doing your job.

Is it possible to change your captain's name in this game?

If so, any link to a guide?
Or names of files to look through?

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>the feel when you finally earned the konigsberg through sheer force of will without any free XP or premium
it feels like I just took a huge shit
and I'm finally flushing the karls down where it belongs

>>122653402
I prefer damage ratio

k/d ratio just encourage ks, and this is a fucking team game

see heroes of the storm, they've done a team game right

You can change names for different positions in fleet in SO.
Anyone knows price for it, or is it free?

>>122658447
1.8k gold, I think. Just click on your name.

>>122658525
I mean you can name positions in fleet to something else
For example Petty officer to faggot and so on.

>>122636154
155s with 4 point skill for 18.1km range.

You can invisifire above ~17km, and you don't even need demo expert.

The downside is that you may have to retrain your CO to be optimal on Ibuki and Zao.

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Is this fella one of you guys?

why is the nagato so much worse than the fusou?

Fusou has 6 guns, Nagato has 5. Fusou is slightly more accurate and due to more guns, less prone to RNG fuckery. Nagato is also a giant citadel from almost every angle while my Fusou rarely ever took a citadel hit when angled.

Shell travel time on the Nagato is also worse than the Fusou. My aiming techniques with the Fusou to hit mid ship completely misses with Nagato.

>>122659837
>5.
4

>>122624398

Currently grinding my way through this freak show of a ship, good way to test your anger issues with 300xp wins...

>>122659837
1) turrets are not guns, learn to count
2) get a proper crosshair, RNGesus fucking you over is of course always possible but aiming at the right spot is not an art, it's a science
3) get all skills and modules for secondaries and just head into all the enemies
4) die anyway becasue all other BBs are bluelining faggots

>>122660601
>>1) turrets are not guns, learn to count
technicalities. And I corrected myself.
>2)
Which explains why I went from regular 2500xp games in the Fusou to 800xp games in the Nagato? With 70k average damage in Fusou, and 30k in Nagato?
>3
I asked earlier and people said secondaries were inaccurate and unreliable now, so I got accuracy to try and help make it like my sweet Fusou.
>4
Bluelining bbs were easier than cruisers going in a straight line in the Fusou. Still fairly easy in the Nagato but less damage and 4 less shells in the air to not get fucked by rng.

>>122624398
>>122660010
The karl is shit.

It does, however, have a few upsides that can make it a bit less shit.
1) it turns REALLY well
2) the AP ammo and torps can wreck shit if you get in range
3) the sonar ability means you can see torps coming frm halfway across the map

The problem is that getting in range means you get killed.
But since you have a choice between getting killed without a chance of doing damage, and getting killed with a chance of doing damage, your best bet is to look for a lonely BB somewhere and then go on your deathride.

Stay away from Kuma and Pheonix, they will kill you unless you can surprise buttsex them from behind an island with AP at 7km or so.
If you can do this, you can citpen them to death rapidly.
Try not to engage DDs, you are better off firing at cruisers. If a DD tries to have a go at you, use your superior turning and high soanr range.

Also, always launch your torps before you die. People tend to forget your shitty shortrange torps.

>>122659837
Because you are likely being matched more often against fellow Tier 7 and 8 enemy botes with Nagato, while you can see seal club Tier 4 with Fusou.

>>122631660
>>122631065
how many supertest clients are there? there is one that I know of but there must be more

>3 sky in flames dailies
WG please.

>>122660947
>technicalities. And I corrected myself.
By stating that nagato has 4 guns, while it actually has four main turrets with eight guns. Counting and telling guns and turrets apart is hard, I guess.

>30k in Nagato?
Then keep crying instead of trying to fix your problem. Yes, Nagato is not a great sniper. Either adapt or die your way through with 300 xp per game.

>people said secondaries were inaccurate and unreliable now
They are more inaccurate now than they were in teh alpha and beta.
Short range fighting is still what Bagamon does best. It turns on a dime compared to Fuso.

>4 less shells in the air to not get fucked by rng
Yeah, I know. Ask the drunken slavs why they turned BBs into RNG slotmachines that rely on nothing but 'have more guns to win' with 0.3.
I stil haven't figured out why.

>>122663023
Montana has more guns than Hotel. It doesn't help at all.

>>122663023
>while it actually has four main turrets with eight guns
Like I said, technicalities. A turret is a gun, it just often has more than one barrel.

>Yes, Nagato is not a great sniper. Either adapt or die your way through with 300 xp per game.
And how exactly would you fix the problem when Nagato gets citadel'd at almost any angle from any bb, when I could close to sub 7km on a Colorado and Fusou with just two cruiser buddies and still come out with 70% by angling and swinging my ass around when it's safe to get in my rear shots?

I get that Nagato wants to be right up in there. What I don't get is why she has the survivability of a cruiser while wanting to knife fight. There's severe conflicting interests there.

Is there a mod that changes the premium port theme to the original? Not a fan of the former.

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Being a CV is so much fun.

I'm having such a blast with CVs on Houshou and now Zuihou that I don't even want to use other classes now.

Also what's seal clubbing?

>>122663224
Well yeah.
Montana also has better AA, which also doesn't help because AA at t8 and above is a meme.

Just wait for Sovetsky Soyuz, it will have better guns, more guns, better AA and better armor ;^)

>>122664368
Shitting on new player
Like playing St.Louis or Kuma

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>>122664305
>A turret is a gun

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>>122664305
>I could close to sub 7km on a Colorado
>Colorado is better than Nagato
Is it Opposite Day again?

>>122664952
What?

Maybe I need to rephrase and/or go into more detail?

In my Fusou I am able to, with minimal worries, close distance on any battleship as angled my citadel is very well protected and I can use openings to swing around and get all my guns on target. In one of my games I had a cleveland at 10% and an Atlanta with me in my Fusou against a Fusou and Colorado full health, I closed distance to about 6.8km or so by the end of it when the Colorado got killed, and I came out with still above 70% health.

I do not feel safe closing distance in the Nagato however, as even heavily angled it's somehow still vulnerable to citadels frequently.

>>122664707
I'm pretty sure it will have 9 16-inch guns which is less than Montana. They will probaby have railgun AP and higher rate of fire though.

Sent request to fleet in SO
IGN tewi

>>122665308
Is your Nagato fully upgraded?

The hull unlocks are absolutey essential.

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>There are people in this thread who can't average 70k damage at the very LEAST in Nagato.
>There are people in this thread who unironically like Fuso better than Nagato.

Why is /wowsg/ so shit?

>>122666467
All BBs are slow andd shit, anon.

Either you go fast, or you don't go at all.

>>122665953

Will accept when I get home if it isn't by then.

>>122666467
It's like using AWP in CS
You get to kill stuff but it's no fun

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>>122667505
Nagato is as fun as BBs get. No fun is bluelining autism or reverse Hotels.

>>122667723

>tfw you will never give nagato a bath after battle

>>122668650
I prefer my botes salty

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>>122668757

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>>122666467
Teach me senpoi

>>122668757

Yeah well I prefer my botes filled my seamen!

>>122669223
How do you check these?

>>122669654
R u serious bruh

>>122669743
Yes.

No bully pls

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>>122669654
Login on official site you dumbo

>>122669941
Go to homepage, click on your wows account

Why don't all turret have range finder?

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>>122669223
Your hit rate is abyssal. You can't attribute it to RNG at that point, so there's something wrong with your leading/ranging.

Also, not sure how Capture/Defend base points are measured, but yours are really low even though you have almost twice my amount of battles in Nagato, so you're clearly not getting close and personal enough. You're trying to snipe with Nagato, aren't you? Don't.

I mean, there's a place and time for taking potshots at long range. Like the beginning of the match. You shouldn't rush into half the enemy team all alone, but you shouldn't be afraid of closing in further when against 1 lone battleship, or two cruisers, or even dueling two BB's at the same time when your approach angles are correct (both are in front of you, they're not flanking you) and there's a cap to defend, for example.

>>122659837

Fusou does have 12 guns to Nagato's 8. This makes it better at landing a hit at all, and also gives it better odds against kamikaze DD rushes. However, you see less of those at high tiers anyways, and far more valuable is Nagato's higher caliber.

When Fusou gets matched upwards, her guns will bounce off of T7 and T8 BB armor with the slightest bit of angling. I can angle Nagato's armor against Fusou and take scratch damage from AP volleys to the point where the captains swap to HE and deal more damage overall. On the other hand, Nagato can penetrate T8 and T9 BB armor just fine.

Nagato probably only seems like a giant citadel because you're used to Fusou clubbing lower tier BBs that have shitty penetration themselves. All BBs are vulnerable to citadels on tier and above, and there's a far larger population of T4 BBs than there are T5 and T6.

Nagato's biggest gain in tier is that it has an absolutely bigmclargehuge pile of HP once you get the hull upgrades. When you get in those double-fucked situations where you have to turn into/away from torpedoes but doing so will expose your citadels to enemy BB guns, Fusou will be left with virtually no HP and die in short order. Nagato will have enough HP to finish chugging a health potion, and then another, and then another.

tewi, you've been accepted in the fleet on SO.

>>122664952

That's because the Colorado is fucking underpowered piece of shit to the point where people joke that the New Mexico is objectively stronger and the joke is funny because it's almost true.

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>>122672376
Thanks m8

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>>122672578

No problem.
See you in game.

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It's just a good solid ship.

>>122670471

>99 base capture in 82 battles
>those gorillion base defenses

Do you play a lot of Ranked? I have 75 battles and still have yet to get a single base capture in Nagato.

Ranked games a different beast entirely. Frankly Nagato is ridiculously good in them due to the limitation on BBs leading to a disproportionate amount of CLs, and the maps/gametypes forcing said CLs into optimal gun range.

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>post yfw people cant get ez high calibers with nagato

>>122672930
It's called cheatland for a reason

>>122662676
The image I posted isn't an ST client, it's the standard Asia server client, set to Chinese language.

I can't talk about the intricacies of the ST client, or anything pertaining to testing.

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>>122673069
I played a total of 5 ranked games in Nagato. And those are not included in the stats I posted, since those are for random (and random/ranked/PVE stats are tracked separatedly).

I attribute the base defense points to the following:
>Staying nearby bases in multi-base dominion, either capturing or defending them.
>In normal battles, never go to the flanks farther to the sides that isolate you from the rest of the map (for example, on North map: the east lane). And if it's necessary (for example, east lane on Fault Line), don't stay there for too long. Either push the flank, or fall back to look for another way to crack an opening.
>Help push a flank, and then look at the situation. Either keep pushing it if the enemy is falling apart, or go back to defend against an incoming strong push on our base.
>Force caps even if underfire just to put pressure on the other team.

>Doing damn well lately in my Furutaka, getting the best results of Cruisers on my team near every battle
>Start up another, Fault Line
>Head to C more to help keep enemy in check there since I know some are gonna go for it, Phoenix and a Nicholas join my group
>Enter battle with the first enemy DD to show up, get a salvo off
>Torps in the water, scroll out to see
>The fucking Phoenix fired torps right into my goddamn path
>Take two, still alive somehow
>Enemy Konigs shows up and starts pegging me from miles away.

Well so much for my steak. Goddamn idiots.

>>122674050
>filename

You forgot to translate the "mufun" (hmph), which is the most important part of that image.

> World of Warships & Steel Ocean [& shipsluts]
>General thread for literally THREE distinct games

this needs to stop

>>122675058
>lets just plit them into three generals so we can have 3 ded gaems!
>there isnt even link to steel ocean in OP

ok yurispammer

>>122675058
How is this an issue?

Back in 2012, the World of Tanks + Warthunder threads went perfectly fine. Not to mention, /fgg/ (fighting games general) covers over 20 different games, not just the three that we have here.

>>122675227
>Back in 2012, the World of Tanks + Warthunder threads went perfectly fine
no they werent

>>122675245
They were fine up until a point. WoT and WT shared the same thread, and for a long time there weren't any major issues. Eventually, WT started to get bigger, and it was for the benefit of the people using the threads to split the two. Before that, they were fine together.

>>122675227
I wish we have MOBA general
I'd be fun

>>122675245
WT started off with relatively limited game content, and there weren't many players. For the sake of not having dead threads all the time, WT piggybacked off the WoT general. Once more stuff was added to the game, there were more players in the general playing WT, and the WT discussion was becoming a hindrance to WoT discussion. WT players moved off to their own general, and /WoTG/ has been the same old /WoTG/ ever since.

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>>122674502
Her smug needs no translation.

>>122673751
just
fucking
tell me how many supertest clients there are

>USN BBs have shit accuracy because god knows why

When will this meme end?

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>>122675058
>THREE distinct games
I just realized, this could potentially be four distinct games. The "& shipsluts" part isn't specific enough, and it could refer to any of the shipslut games in general (it doesn't say which one). That means both Kantai Collection and Battleship Girls (the Chinese clone on Android/iOS with Hood/Repulse/Nevada/Fantasque/etc) meet the criteria.

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>>122675227
>>122675361
>>122675605
Actually, the shared /wotg/ between WT and WoT lasted for about 4 threads or so, time during which the shitflinging between playerbases got consistently worse to the point where WT emancipated/got kicked out into its own general.

We could very well split into two generals, but we'll probably end with two very dead generals.

The shipsluts stay. There is a /kancolle/ general already, but I refuse to let our shipfus go.

>>122675957
because the capitalist americans are their eternal enemy, tovarisch ))

>>122676135
Well. We have the actual ship game, Kancolle because we wouldn't be able to keep it out anyway and two chinese knock-offs. Sounds about right for a general.

>>122676293
The kancolle general is on /jp/ though (for the game at least; media fanwanking has kancolle threads on /a/ as well), it wouldn't hurt to have a second home on /vg/ too.

>>122676293
>WT emancipated/got kicked out into its own general.
>Attempted to hijack another game's general
>kicked out of its own general

no

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>>122676135
I made the previous thread. The shipslut part isn't there to talk about shipslut browser games.
I put it in the title because shipslut posting is an integral part of /wowsg/ that deserves to be included in the name. That's all.

What T3 perk is best for DD?

>>122676497

You also get triggered easily.

>>122676562
No bullying, /WoWSA/ is a bully-free zone.

>>122675921
Is of classified informatics, tovarisch ))))

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>>122676497
>72,000t

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>>122676562
What about it?

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>>122676516
superintendent obviously

>>122676673
>resuplying
>suplying

>>122676659
>Is of classified informatics, tovarisch ))))
REEEEEEEEEEE
I have their internal testing client, I know things that you aren't even supposed to know. The only thing I don't know is how many damn supertest clients there are, fucking hell

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>>122676773
Thanks, hadn't noticed the missing P.
The filename is now correct. You can check the fix on the next instance of this general.

Anyone here that plays T10 want to play?

>>122676659

>/wowsg/
>Not bully central

>>122676673
Stop being an autistic sperg.

>>122677051
>tree limb that can sustain 72,000 tons of FATSO

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>>122677558
I don't get what you're trying to say.

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>>122678035

I'm going to steal and impregnate you're waifu.

>>122675179
ded games dont deserve generals nor should they be allowed to parasitize others

>>122678257
are you that japanese man who owns 4chan
your english has gotten better

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>>122675179
You talking about me m8?

>>122678628
DED THREDS OF DED GAMES DESERVE TO BE DIED

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>>122678172
Joke's on you. She's already pregnant.

>>122678172
>stealing and impregnating a shit waifu

>tfw you're a DD and you carry your team by sinking 2 BBs and a CA
>team loses anyway

>>122679126
Carry harder bro

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG9edc7Et8Y#t
DEFENDERS OF PALESTINE!

>>122678884
>the day when /wows/ dies

>>122679126
For every enemy fall to your torpedos, Two friendly cruisers will took broadside AP from BB.

At what caliber do naval gun stop being loaded by human?

WoWS vs SO?

>play steel ocean
>be DD
>approach BB with WoWS mentality
>get shrekt

welp, time to gitgud

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How would you buff the Izumo?

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>>122678824
sorry lad
I just like to namedrop you when someone shitposts
Have a bote

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>>122679017
>Myoko
>shit

No, m8. You're the shitty one.

F

>>122681505
I'd like to taste and appreciate her spicy curry rice.

>>122681364
Remove it from the fucking game and add Kii with fictional hull upgrade instead.

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>>122681057

WoWs if you want your hand held with better graphics.
SO for arcade higher skill combat.

>>122681364
Raise the third turret up making it 3 deck super firing

Is the Iowa worth playing anymore if you get the Montana?

>>122682535
>pagoda turrets
Are you Japanese?

>>122682683
I'd be funny. It's a stupidly drafted ship from WG's secret dockument anyway so why not.

>>122682954
>dockument
ayy lmao

>>122682954
>secret dockument
It's a fucking A-140. Why didn't they choose a less retarded variant is a mystery though. Like, just make it A-140/F with aft turret you niggers.

Do IJN torture and kill prisoner like IJA does?

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>>122655107
I'm wanting to work my way past that piece of shit...

But my luck with it has been god awful.
I think the Karl is secretly a Mutsu in disguise.
In 9 matches.. The very first, for the 2/3x bonus xp event... ended with me being TK'd by some jackass who was shooting a friendly pink named player on the other side of me as the game started, launched torps.. and forgot that torps don't go over my ship like his shells had.. And we won ;_;

The rest of the first 6 matches ended in quick detonations or team kills :^)

7 was relatively 'great' due to it being the 'high score' where the RNG gods were in my favor (this was after the patch to make them 'less shit... but not by much')

9th match was div'd with a few /vg/ people.. put-put-putted into combat to get about 20 shell hits.. then detonated!

.. I should see if the game has been producing replays as the montage of hell would be morbidly entertaining.

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sending an application for /wowsg/'s SO fleet

i've tried it so far and it's fun as fuck to be a destroyer

IGN is HomuraWasRight

>>122684779
iirc the practices of both branches of the military were different; the IJA has a more horrible track record compared to the IJN, but i'm not /his/ enough to give an opinion

Is it worth to buy gold in SO?

>>122685070
you can actually get gold from game quests; try doing that route first and if you like it then shekel away

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>>122681826
>You'll never marry a QT like Ashigara.

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>>122684983

Application accepted.
Welcome to the fleet.

>>122685748
Thanks. Looking forward to driving botes together.

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>>122685979

Good luck and fair seas!
DDs only get better the higher you go.

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>>122686206
He speaks the truth!

Can't wait.

how good are cruiser in SO?
All these talk is making me want to install.

>>122686646

Do you like having good AA?
Do you like being able to bully DDs and Subs?
Do you like being able to launch torpedos and take on battleships?
Then play a cruiser.
If you like doing all of the above, play a DD as well. A good DD is as good as a cruiser.

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>>122687548
pretty much this

DD can do everything what cruiser can but faster.
You cant launch scouts though.
not a real deal because you just spot everything.

>>122687885

Also the ability to get under the guns of a battleship and have them panic is hilarious.
Watching Techno panic shitters while I bully the rest of their team is fun.

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>>122687885
>2nd game where cruisers are useless
Welp.

>>122687982
>SO is more like WoT than WoWS is

this is all WG had to do with botes. Make it dumb and arcadey like WoT and it could have been fun

>>122688226
no

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>>122688226

Cruisers are far from useless anon. All cruisers are essentially mini battleships. They aren't helpless against plons and DDs and subs like BBs are.

>>122688297
>DD can do everything what cruiser can but faster.
Made up you fucking mind.

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>>122686646

Have a Que example.

note the very few CA/CL's

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>>122688367
People want to be BBs and SSs. DDs are tier 1 and people who know how to stomp on BBs and SSs.

The best way to stop DDs is CAs and CLs but not many people know that yet. CAs also have artillery mode.

>>122688347
Then what's the point of playing BBs?

>>122688367
I guess they're just for cruising after all

>>122687548
>>122687885

forgot to add that DD guns are not absolute dogshit and you can just fuck things up.

>>122688226
They're not useless, I'm trying to find how you are supposed to play it.
Heavy cruisers are just pocket battleships capable of doing anything but ASW.

Light cruisers on the other hand are just... bigger DDs. Their main guns pack more damage and their main feature is increased accuracy while moving.

Most of japaneese tree consists of heavy cruisers so there isnt much of variety going on.

Didnt check other nations yet.

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>>122688742

Because a BB can fight other BBs and fight off cruisers. A BB can take out DDs he can aim and isn't stupid. Most players are and completely forget their secondary batteries are controllable.
Your secondaries on a BB are also have their full range.

>>122689003
I smell shota doujin

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>>122689164

Really? I just smell the ocean.

>>122688984
>increased accuracy while moving.
Wait, what? Ships get more accurate when you stop? What's this, WoT? I thought SO was supposed to be a WoWS clone.

Are you telling me people stop to shoot all the time?

This is fucking ridiculous.

Sent an app for the Steel Ocean fleet
IGN: Stevec

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>>122688742
BBs are domination machines that destroy everything if not piloted by an absolute retard. All other classes are there for gameplay novelty.

>>122689404
Two DDs with smoke wreck BBs so easily since they are fast and have tons of torps
you just need one friend

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>>122689343
CL feature is faster aiming time it even pops up is tips info.

And people who stop all the time will get bent eaisly. At least thats what I'm teaching them with torps

>>122689343
It isn't. It's WoT with ship models. BBs and CAs main battery is exactly like WoT artillery. They even apply torque if you're not moving and press A/D.

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>>122689343

The bad ones do. But if you want to be laser accurate, you stop as a BB. You can drastically cut down on the effects of moving and traversing your turrets on your guns accuracy. Its also why BBs can delete things instantly if give a good salvo.

Keep in mind anon, that its pretty realistic. Ships couldn't get targeting solutions while on the move easily.

>>122689395
Accepted. Welcome to the fleet.

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>>122689529
>being surrounded by DDs while going alone
Do you think I am retarded or something?

if were to start playing CVs which nation has the best? (relatively)

>>122689343
you don't "have" to stop in a DD/CL but your dispersion will go haywire if you try zig-zaggin to dodge things.

You get a feel for what you can do. But it is of course easier to not learn how your ship handles, and just stop moving to increase accuracy.. :^) But that 'ease' comes at the cost of defense (being an easy target.)

>>122690521
see
>>122690953

>>122690521

Steel Ocean or WoWs?

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>>122689878
No just probably don't have as much vision

>>122691253
USN CVs are better in both games though.

>>122691425

Yes but in Steel Ocean IJN CVs are in fact much cheaper.

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>>122689686
>that its pretty realistic
But that's stupid. A naval battle with ships constantly stopping to fire is unheard of. FCS and ranging equations took ship movement into account already, the main issue with accuracy was with assessing the actual distance to the target and its speed.

And here I thought this was supposed to be better than WoWS. From what I understand, the only advantages SO has over WoWS are subs and controllable AA/Secondaries, which seems pretty pointless if the rest of the immersion is broken by stopping-to-fire battleships and tank-like behavior.

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>>122690521
Regarding WoWS?

Have some basic math :^)

IF somehow every single torpedo and bomb hit.. these numbers are accurate. (Considering torp spreads for usn and IJN... all torps hitting is a near impossible happening.)

I believe USN is superiour as IJN's been consistently nerfed.

Though that of course could change at the drop of a hat due to WG.
(Hoshou is/can-be suffering. Zuihou aint 'bad' RJ's a beauty.)

>>122691334
What does going in a squad with my BB mate have to with detection range? I've seen enough suicide torpedo rushes in WoWs to know what's up.

>>122691578
this is outdated dude, IJN torps now go 35 knots for 3.4km I think

>>122691334
That's one small map.

>>122691506
Who cares?

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>>122691565

You don't have to stop as a battleship anon. Only bad players do. You can stop in any ship and get the same effect though.
Stopping is a sign of a bad player. You can move and be accurate though. You can't expect to do a 90 degree turret turn and have an immediate firing solution though.
Give it a try anon before you give it up.

>>122644703
чe зa хyйня means 'the fuck is it'

>>122691712
ah, quite right. So they do!

In spite of that, damage I believe is still accurate?

>>122690846
>you don't "have" to stop
The mere idea that stopping a ship will somehow allow it to shoot more accurately is so idiotic that it will keep me from playing SO forever.

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>>122677051
>tfw someone saved an image with the filename I once posted it with

>>122649437
retard it's -10% slower rate of fire while kiev barely gets anything from the 15% turn rate

~14 seconds with expert marksman or ~12.4 sec with this mod and expert marksman but also 1.1 shot per minute per gun less

main battery mod 2 is good only on gnevny and even then some people may question it (it adds just 2.2 sec on gnevny for the loss of 1.1 rpm... but since genvny has so slow turrets every second helps... but then 1.1 rpm...)

>>122691565
>And here I thought this was supposed to be better than WoWS
how fucking stupid are you actually?

>>122691565
>And here I thought this was supposed to be better than WoWS
>he actually believed what people said about a chinese rip-off game on a mongolian weaving forum

Post bote butts

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>>122693236
I find funny the names some of you anons give to pics, so I go through the effort of saving them with their intended filename.

Pic related is one of my favorite ones.

which nation has better cruisers in WoWs?

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>>122694584

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>>122694593
That was also one of mine. I know we're all anons here and I intend to remain that way, it just makes me smile knowing other people found my filenames funny enough to save

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>>122693669
>how fucking stupid are you actually?
I sort of had hope. . .

Welp.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

>>122694928
well what do tehy have in common?

>>122684779
There were instances. The IJN fleet picked up 3 Americans after midway all of which where tortured and the. Dumped overboard with weights tied to their feet so they'd drown.
They had less opportunity overall to pull the kind of shit the army did , but it did happen.

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>>122695134

>>122694763

americans have the best t3, t5 and t6 cruisers
japs have the best t4, t7-t10 cruisers


nobody cares of t1-t2

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>>122694928
I'm glad it brightened your day.

>>122695383
surprisingly they treated russians very well after tsushima

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>>122694928
nice! hadn't had that one of them.

>The two nukes it took to take down Nagato, genetically altered a lizard.
>9 months later, GODZILLA VISITS TOKYO FOR VENGEANCE!

>>122695694
i didn't get why it visits tokyo for vengeance when it should visit new york

>>122695545
They were trying harder to act European then if I remember right. They thought that if they tried hard enough and acted a certain way the rest of the Empires would let them eat at the big boys table.

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>>122695852
I guess it's because Tokyo allowed the burgers to take Nagato to Crossroads, and because the burgers were using far more of their own ships for testing instead of just captured ships.

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>>122695852
Hey! Its a confused, angry, nuked lizard.. I didn't say it had a good compass!

>Nagato wasn't around long enough to give a geography lesson!
>Godzilla's fury had been misguided on Japan all these years..
>Then 1998 happened and he finally found New York.
>R.I.P. Godzilla, but not before laying an egg.
>Godzilla Jr. hatches, with the knowledge granted him by Godzilla
>2014-15, Godzilla Jr. arrives in San Francisco on his journey to return to the place it all started, the burial ground of of his Grand-Momboat, Nagato.

;_; Did he survive 2014-15, anons? Did he change his stars, and follow his feet home?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkqomLTu9-Y


Haven't seen the 2014-15 movie, and now am curious..

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>>122697403
I don't remember that movie having this much feels.

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Lets play a game.

Draw the last bote you played. Others must guest what bote it is.

Easy mode: just fap to her

>>122697403
Anon.........Godzilla didn't visit New York,.........

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>>122698358
some sub probably

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>>122698107
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godzilla_(1998_film)
"It travels to New York City during the rainiest week of the season, leaving a path of destruction in its wake."

Godzilla went to New York!

>>122698358
Looks like Minekaze.

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>>122698041